Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 048: Tattoos, Muscle Angles & Metabolic Damage

Episode Date: March 23, 2015

More Q&A! On today's episode the MindPump crew answers your questions about metabolic damage and reverse dieting, working muscles in a lengthened vs. shortened range and intimate details about their t...attoos!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Follow Justin's 98 transformation from Pudgey to Rift, right here each week on Mind Pump. To get Justin's exact face workout and diet plan, go to MindPumpRadio.com and click the big yellow button's only one place to go. Mind, up, mind, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump, easily the best show in the universe. Oh, yeah. That was better. Here we go. You're listening to Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer,
Starting point is 00:00:44 and Justin Andrews. That's right. That's right. And it's tight. It's Q and 8. Really? It's tight by the whole bro. It's wow. Thanks for, thanks for clarifying. It's it's Q and 8 time. Yeah, you have a song for that Justin Q and 8 time. Hey, we have a song for that Justin Q&A time. Hey, we have to deal with this time. We're about to answer your questions.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Damn. I don't know why you have the voice. The voice of an angel. I listen to it on our kelly. So we have to do we have to do. We have to do a Q&A. Or somebody gets some good takeaways. Because I feel like we just did a Q&A
Starting point is 00:01:28 We had a sideways. Yeah, well, we actually I think we gave some good information Dissected you we did we get some good information Not a lot of fitness someone had told me the day and I complete I totally offended They said you know sometimes you guys get off topic and talk about crazy shit Never we're not even doing that right now You guys get annoyed by Criticis, no by critiques from people say no one you know what you should do You know what you should do. No love it. Yeah, you like it. I think it is a cool story
Starting point is 00:01:59 I thought it was a compliment It's a cool story, bro. I'll say thank you. Cool story, bro. First question, this is from... Start with how bad we're doing. This is, I love to listen to that. Yeah, we're doing really bad. So, first question from the number, from 13 Lucky, this is one of our Instagram followers. And the question is, what are our thoughts on metabolic damage and reverse dieting?
Starting point is 00:02:21 Beautiful, Tom. Very good question. Uh, very, uh, guy, this is probably one of the most overlooked things and probably one of the biggest challenges as a personal trainer that we have. Well, why don't we define, okay? What's the solution? And how do we get to, yeah, how do we get to metabolic damage? What is metabolic damage?
Starting point is 00:02:38 What, what takes us there? So metabolic damage basically means you've screwed your metabolism up and there's, there's several ways that we can do this The most common way that one messes their metabolism up is for a very long period of time of not feeding your body What it needs nutritionally to run and I I normally when I explain metabolic damage to a person in layman's term I don't explain the analogy like a vehicle. So if you imagine your car engine and You neglect changing the oil forever. You neglect rotating your tires. Your timing belt is squealing and all off
Starting point is 00:03:14 You can still drive the car You know, it'll it'll move still just like your body will still go, but how effective will it run? It's pretty bad and it's probably only a matter of time before it breaks down. And it's kind of like what happens when you for long periods of time have not been feeding the body properly or yo-yo dieting or you know extreme dieting where you're not feeding the body anything trying to try to lose weight that way. And then eventually your body kind of shuts almost shuts down. It takes time to get out of that. Well, it actually takes a very long time
Starting point is 00:03:46 and the longer you've been banging it up the longer work. So let's say for example, you've kind of screwed up your diet for a little while. And this is the topic I had, this is very close to home. And this is a real phenomenon. As trainers, we've seen it in clients. I've seen it many times.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I just shared a very good YouTube podcast on a doctor talking about this with one of my clients because you know I take obviously I have clients that are overweight and 200 300 plus pounds and you know these are the most common people that have been you know poor eating habits for a really long time and by poor it doesn't necessarily always mean that you're eating you know McDonald's every single day. It could just mean that like I said you're not feeding the body nutritionally what it needs. If you're two 300 pounds, your body needs a lot of nutrients to sustain.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And most people like that, I've probably had some sort of issues with food, whether it be the psychological conditions that they use with that's caused them to underfeed it or do not feed it properly, and it's caused this metabolic damage for a long period of time. And the longer it's caused damage,
Starting point is 00:04:51 the longer it's gonna take you to get out. So one of the hardest things for me to sit down and explain to somebody is that, hey, and this is normally how this goes, and it's very tough to explain to somebody who's coming to you to lose over a hundred pounds, and you say, guess what? I actually don't want you to lose any weight for the first maybe six months.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah, we got a fixture metabolism. And they look at you like you six months, I'm going to pay for training from you. And you're going to help me and I'm not going to lose any weight. Well, I could do that on my own. What the fuck? And yeah, exactly. And and you brought up the very next question, which is reverse dieting, which is exactly what you do with somebody like this in order to get them back to where they need to be and
Starting point is 00:05:28 What you have to do with somebody is the slowly reintroduced these foods obviously if I take somebody which here's the mistake I used to make as a young trainer as a young trainer We used to have all these tools where I could calculate how much you weigh and everything like that I could put it implemented into a computer and a kick me off This is what your body needs your body needs X amount of grams of carbohydrates protein And these are the calories that you need and so it's it tells me that and then you hand that to a client who doesn't eat nowhere near that And they either one blow up from it and they start putting on putting on a ton of weight from that or two They're just so stuff they can't even come close to finish them Yeah, the definition of reverse dieting literally is
Starting point is 00:06:06 a slow process into eating properly. That's what they mean by reverse. You don't hit it with a frickin' sledgehammer right off the bat, you gotta move them through slowly. I just experienced this with a client recently who's been with me for a little while and she was so meticulous about what she ate because she was so afraid of gaining, you know, a half a pound. And anytime she went off for diet,
Starting point is 00:06:30 just a little bit, she gained a couple pounds and it would take her weeks to lose those two pounds again. This is somebody who counted every single calorie, but she didn't exercise properly. And her nutrition wasn't, you know, as good as it is now, for example. Well, I told her, I said, listen, once we fix your metabolism and you have a weekend out with your husband, that's not gonna happen anymore. And it's funny because she almost didn't believe me. She's like, well, that's just the way my body works.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Well, now, guess what? She'll go wine tasting whatever. She'll go enjoy yourself, no weight gain. And we were starting to fix her metabolism. So this is a very, very real, real thing when it comes to your metabolism. And it basically means that if you're in a really shitty situation for a long time, just like Adam was saying, you're going to have to just get healthy first. So that means stop looking at the scale and just get those good habits, start eating
Starting point is 00:07:19 more vegetables, start eating more fruits, start eating less of the process stuff, just start getting used to certain things and take it one step at a time. And then before you, and what ends up happening with this, by the way, is the results become more permanent. So if you want results that come and go, then go crazy and do your crazy stuff. Well, just to get this, let's say, okay, so let's take the example of someone who's 200 plus pounds, they come to you and you say, first thing I always do before I even write a diet plan for someone or a nutrition plan for someone is I want I want to see what you're currently doing.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So I give them, I say, here's the deal, you know, you get started with me. I want to see a week of your eating. I want you to eat normal. Don't try and press me. I want to know exactly what you consume. And then I go back and I look and, you know, nine times at a 10, you know, this 200-something pound person is eating like 900 calories one day, 1700 another day, then back down to 700 calories and up to 24 hundred calories. And they're like averaging out like maybe 1100 calories top and they're 200 and something pounds. So extremely low for their body already. So and then you come to me and you want to lose weight. Well, okay, well, law of thermodynamics, if I want to make this person lose
Starting point is 00:08:20 weight and their metabolism is now used to only 1100. That means I got to take you down to like 600 calories in order to show you like a consistent weight loss, which is only in the last so long. And how is that for longevity? Exactly. And extremely unhealthy. It's not realistic. And it's also why that same person, just like Sal was saying, you know, she goes out and
Starting point is 00:08:39 she does, she does well. Like so she's at 600 calories and she goes for a while. She's dropping maybe a pound every once in a while and then she goes to that one night out with her husband or she decides to go drink you one time and then boom, three pounds comes right back on because all it takes is for you to have one meal out that could consist of 1500 to 2000 calories
Starting point is 00:08:57 and then eating out meal, which is very easy to do. And you just in took four times your daily intake in one sitting, you bet your ass you're gonna put on a pound up from that. So, you know, you are, and this is real similar to what we talked about with Justin's progress right now and his journey is, if you're eating correctly and you're training correctly with your trainer
Starting point is 00:09:18 or by yourself and you're not seeing any movement on the scale, that's okay. Good shit is happening right now. If you're eating properly and you're working out just because the scale is not necessarily moving one way or the other does not mean stuff is happening. Give it some time. Give it some time. It takes time and a lot of time just so you know to longer you've been going not paying attention to what you're eating and trying and doing this the longer it's going to take you to do it correctly.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Absolutely right. Absolutely. And take some of those elements out like with the scale and focus on the positives, you know, focus on your energy, you know, focus on the things that you're going to motivate you to drive you, because it's a long haul, you know. Performance in the gym.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Performance in the gym is a great one. Yeah, like how your clothes fit, you know, in that your energy levels, like all that kind of stuff. So, excellent. Next question, this is from Jay Cisneros. The question is, what is the difference in working muscles basically in a lengthened position or a shortened range? So the example he gave is the difference between a tricep
Starting point is 00:10:17 and overhead tricep extension, where you feel a stretch in the tricep, versus say a kickback, a tricep kickback where you feel most of the tension in the contracted position. Now, in the past, they used to call exercises, you know, they used to have the compound exercises and then they had the finishers. Finitures tend to be the muscle,
Starting point is 00:10:38 the exercises that would squeeze muscles, the muscles, right? So like a finisher for chest was like a cable crossover, right? Cause you get a real hard squeeze. Here's a science behind all this muscles are very specific in the way they adapt to resistance. So if you're if you're doing an exercise that's putting most of the resistance in a lengthened position, then most of your strength gains are going to come from that length in that lengthened position. This is why it's important to incorporate all of these different positions. Pizzichin angles and different angles.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah, so you can pretty much break it down into three angles. And I don't even talk about the different types of muscle contraction. You have exercises that give you a good stretch. You have exercises that are kind of mid-range. And then you have exercises that give you a good squeeze. And so now you have your resistance, your lengthened, and your middle, and in your shortened. So using the chest as an example, a stretched exercise would be a free weight dumbbell fly. Most of the resistance is at the bottom, towards the top, there's not much resistance, because
Starting point is 00:11:40 you're in open position. Yeah, you're not really fighting gravity at the top. A mid-range exercise would be the bench press. Bench press. And then your squeeze again would be like a peck deck or a cable crossover. Right. So I would say use them all.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And each one of them in studies have shown different types of adaptation. And you can benefit from each of those. I will say, however, that exercises in that mid-range tend to be the big mass builder compound movement. So you're getting a little bit of both, that's why it kind of is like for example like a deadlift There's no real stretch or real squeeze, you know at the top or a barbell squat, you know It's more of that mid-range and so the mid-range stuff tends to be the heavier load type of stuff
Starting point is 00:12:18 Mm-hmm. You know back in the day. I remember this this was a book in the early 90s It was called positions of flexing It was an Ironman magazine, like special thing or whatever. And the routine consisted of each body part, three exercises, one exercise in the mid range, one exercise in the stretch, and one exercise in the contraction, contracted position. It's actually pretty brilliant,
Starting point is 00:12:37 if you think of it, for them to put it together that way. So I would say, you know, work on all those, and then they do find, by the way, in the length and position, resistance and lengthened position does stimulate something called MTOR, M-T-O-R, in muscle, which is responsible for muscle growth. And this is why I always emphasize a really, in a safe way, of course, a really full range of motion.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Range of motion with all your reps. And you know who is really big on that? Arnold, Arnold back in the day. Arnold's fortunate. You ever watch him do flies? Remember pumping iron? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ridiculous range of motion, right?
Starting point is 00:13:12 Right, right. And he would talk about how that stretch would help him build muscle. I feel like we missed that. I see guys in the gym and they, some guys get the squeeze, but not a lot of people. But most better movement too.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Much better, yeah. Yeah, and I noticed that's the one reason why I can't, I tend to lean a lot of people. Most better movement too. Much better, yeah. Yeah, and I noticed. That's the one reason why I tend to lean a little bit more towards the length and position. You can traction, yeah. Yeah, I noticed that that's the one that people tend to miss. Like they'll get the squeeze, but I don't see a lot of people focusing on that stretch.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Like for the back, you know, when people are doing like a cable row, you know, the old school way of doing a cable row. Yeah, letting come all the way to almost like your row in a boat. Yeah, where they like lead forward. Yeah. And then we were taught as trainers, that's bad form, because that's using the erector. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And in reality, what they're doing is they're getting their lats to stretch, and then they're coming up and they're squeezing, right? And that's how I, a lot of times, do my kids. This is such a great point too, because we talked about this on another Q&A with trainers or people wanting to critique form and going up and saying something to somebody who they think they're doing bad form. And there's so many things in fitness that are contradicting as far as your certification
Starting point is 00:14:16 tells you like, oh this is- Because there's so many gurus. Yeah. Here's the thing is they have to have a stance that defines who they are in their program. And so this is where a lot of trainers get caught up in that. And we should be honest with the listeners. Really, the only gurus you should listen to are the ones you're listening to right now.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So it's pretty much, that's pretty much pretty much the end. Everybody else is full of shit. So I used to teach good point style. Because bicep and tricep is probably one of the most common ones when people ask this question. And so like Sal used the chest analogy, I used to use the the bison tries and elbow positioning. You know, I used to crack me up when you see somebody stand at like the cable pushdowns
Starting point is 00:14:54 and they do like cable pushdowns, reverse pushdowns and the rope and then the triangle. Oh, they're rotating their hands. Yeah, you're pronating your supernating your hands and. Which has nothing to do with the triceps. Exactly. It has nothing to do whatsoever. So the difference between the rope and the triangle and the reverse grip is virtually the same thing
Starting point is 00:15:10 on your tricep. Obviously, there's a tad bit of a variation because of the diptych. Yeah, your grips and your forearms have to activate a little bit different. But as far as the work that's getting on a tricep, but you take the position of your elbow in that position where you're doing a pushdown,
Starting point is 00:15:23 and then you do an overhead extension and then you do a skull crusher. So think about where your elbows are positioned. Your elbows are down by your side at one point, then your elbows are up at about 90 degrees and then your elbows are pinned all the way back. Now you've got good variation. And I think too, like some of it,
Starting point is 00:15:35 it depends on your goals, whether it's an aesthetic goal or whether it's a functional goal, you know, our sports performance too, what types of exercises are gonna dictate that, right? So, I mean, that's kinda where I stand right now. You were talking about different types of muscle contractions earlier when we were, when we were left there.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Right, so the concentric, isometric, and eccentric phase. So what are each of them? Because a lot of people don't know when you say concentric. Centric is like your prime movement, right? So, that's what I was saying. You're flexing, right? When you're flexing. So that's the one that most people are familiar with.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And then, you know, when you get an isometric part of the contraction, you're holding that resistance. So you're just holding the squeeze? Just holding the squeeze. And then obviously, eccentric now is making sure that you're resisting the load on the way back to starting position. So lowering the weight.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Lowering the weight. And basically what they call a negative. So there's a place for each one of those. I mean, you could split them up. You could do them all together in a specific tempo or you could really just focus on one element of that and change your whole workout up. And I know Adams even mentioned that before.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Really a great tool to keep in your toolbox. I love to mess with this. I mean, there's a place for each one of those. Well, they've already determined eccentric the lowering of weight causes the most muscle damage. It's also responsible for the most muscle growth. Right, and so that's why I feel personally that it's one of the biggest ones to address in the beginning, right?
Starting point is 00:16:58 So if you can't properly decelerate, decelerating is where everybody's injuries typically come from. Right? It's probably what most people suck. Yeah. And so if you can't control your momentum and your force and properly, you know, that's something that we need to really work on and establish strength with. Well, with the muscle damage, there's some theories behind that because there's something
Starting point is 00:17:20 called the sliding filament theory with how muscle fibers contract. But if you think of like, you know, think of a piece of Velcro and how the Velcro sticks to itself. And then if, so that's how muscle fibers work is the prevailing theory. And then it contracts. Well, when you're luring away, you're asking those hooks, those attachments
Starting point is 00:17:40 to release under load. And so it causes muscle damage. It's actually tearing muscle fibers more than the other types of contractions. Number one, it builds more muscle, but number two, it's also responsible for more overtraining. So if you just like, oh, I'm gonna go do it
Starting point is 00:17:53 like a bunch of negatives, you're gonna fuck yourself in a heart. That's gonna be, yeah. And I have a... Impactful. And I have another theory. This is something that I've noticed also. So there is one particular type of athlete
Starting point is 00:18:04 that lifts a lot of weights that doesn't focus on the eccentric in a lot of their movements. And these are the Olympic lifters. Because they'll do like a power movement, like a cleaner snap. And it drops the weight. It's all 111. You get rid of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 They drop the weight. They don't do the eccentric. Now one thing you'll notice about Olympic lifters is they're incredibly strong for their size. So they don't necessarily build as much muscle as someone who focuses on the eccentric movement. So you're getting lots of fast contraction, lots of fat, but you're not getting necessarily
Starting point is 00:18:37 the muscle hypertrophy stimuli aspect. This is why lowering the weight under control, if you're trying to build muscle visibly, is important. Absolutely. It is important. Well, you know that what is it on the eccentric motion? We can carry four times the load that we can on the concentric movement. Yeah, you can lower way more weight under control than you can lift.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And rarely ever will you see some way. So typically for your eccentric, your deceleration, like Justin is talking about, is your typical for hypertrophy. So for building muscle is a four second negative, which Justin is talking about, is your typical for hypertrophy. So for building muscle is a four second negative, which I tell you what, you know, I'm huge on this. I love to play with, uh, rest periods. And it is a very long, four seconds. Yeah, take, take your bench press and, and you know, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, a lot of times, you know, I'm big on using a lighter weight in a more controlled manner and getting the same effects or better effects than the guy next to me who's pushing out three times
Starting point is 00:19:31 the way that I'm doing super fast and hard like sound. Unless you're a limp, a lifter and you're especially your power. If you're all of them. There's benefits to the speed too, but what you're saying, I hear what you're saying, because you're saying that if you want, like your goal is aesthetics. You'll use the control. Well, and not to mention too, it's a much safer way. It's a much better way to teach somebody form and technique.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I mean, obviously, if you're doing something for the general person who wants to get fit, you know, do they need to do Olympic lifts? Now, I'd probably stay away from those explosives. Well, this is the biggest thing, you know, B5 is CrossFit, that's why I don't like it. Right, right. That's the biggest thing. I just don't like that mentality. You know, I don't think people should be introduced
Starting point is 00:20:07 to powerless. No, it's not way into way later. We always talk about that. That is such an advanced idea. A 111 is so, so advanced for somebody and so explosive that it's, unless you're somebody who is extremely advanced and know how to keep yourself in perfect form
Starting point is 00:20:23 when you take the body through four and in a radical, full range of motion like that. You have no business doing it. If you're a beginner coming in, I am not teaching you a tempo at 111, before I teach you something like a 422, where I'm taking you slow one, two, three, four, pause. It's symmetric, like you've got a chance
Starting point is 00:20:42 to talk a little bit about pause for one or two seconds hold where you're supposed to then I'll go for it. Yep, so Definitely and I tell you what I challenge those that are listening right now you want a little curveball on your workout You know literally go time yourself do that time yourself on your on your negative Give it and there's nothing that says you can't go five seconds or six No, I did that so we talked about the like two weeks ago and I did that normally when I go bust out pull-ups all rip out anywhere between 16 to 20 something right I'll just pump them out and so I did tempo pull-ups So I did really slow I went up I
Starting point is 00:21:14 Went all the way down and I did like 10. Oh, well, it's pretty impressive. You can get it Oh, it was killer. It was it was killer. I probably could only get like five like that. That's pretty that's pretty tough Well, I only did one arm pull up, so that's why I was doing it. How we doing on time, Doug? It's not impressive. All right, one more. So actually, this is a quick one. This is from a underscore AR-O-E-D-W-A-R-D-R. AR-O-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-R-D-D-R-D-R The question is, are tattoos and the meaning behind them?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Well, I think I'll start since I have the least amount of tattoos between the two of you. Inc. I think you're safe. Inc. Inc. Crazy maniac. So I have one tattoo.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It's on my upper back. It's called a Trinacria, which is a type of a symbol, otherwise known as a Triskel. You'll see them in the ancient world quite a bit. Mine in particular is the symbol of Sicily, which is where my family's from. So, it's the head of Medusa in the middle, and there's three legs around her head. The head of Medusa is because Medusa was the goddess of Sicily, given to us by the Greeks. Of course, Sicily being in the middle of the Mediterranean. We have lots of empires, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:26 spanning over, over, over from. And then the three legs, of course, represent the fact that Sicily and Menden have three legs. So, it's the three points of Sicily. Sicily's shaped like a triangle, and they say it's a three points of Sicily. So, because I was born here
Starting point is 00:22:42 in First Generation American, it's kind of like, you know, back to my family's roots. If I lived in, when I go to Sicily, they make fun of me for having it. It'd be like a Californian having like the California bear on their shoulders. New York cow. Yeah, and which actually out of hats.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah. I was just making fun of that. Talking shit, I got California. I've got LA on there too. It'd be like some asshole with a California attack here. Oh, shit. So that's about it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And so I'll leave it to you to you to you. Just some guys. Oh, yeah. Are you on media? Oh, okay. I guess I got the most. I think I have the most. So I probably should be.
Starting point is 00:23:13 We have about 10 minutes through my ear. I don't know. I got two. So I have two angels on my ribs, actually. And bigger, bigger pieces, but more. I have to have a ton on them. They're pretty big. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 They cover my entire ribs. But yeah, so I mean, I have a lot of actual religious kind of symbolism and some of it's like evil, some of it's good and it's just really, it wrapped for me, I did that as, like I was raised in a very conservative home and a lot of time that I spent growing up in the church and I would sit in this, it was like a little kids club kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And they had this imagery, so this artist Dore, I always looked at his work and I was just like, wow, it was so like amazed by it. It was all this crazy crazy imagery of like demons and angels and you know people and hell and like all this crazy shit and I just was like wow that's so cool. And that always just stuck with me. And so I actually just put a lot of his style imagery as tattoos on me and stuff. And so I have like this devil guy and I got like a Leviathan and I have
Starting point is 00:24:25 like, you know, a cross in Thorns and I have a lion. And so a lot of imagery there because I like I said I grew up in the church and stuff. And so that was something that, you know, is close to me. So don't you have a family family shield to or something? What else do you have? What else do you have? Oh no, my back is a Celtic son. I'm probably going through all your tactics. I got a Celtic son of my back. He's like vaguely talking about his tattoos. He's like, well, I got all these tattoos.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah, I'm just kind of stuck with this. You know, I'm going through the tattoo. I'm sure they can, yeah, let's, I mean, let's come on here, bro. Yeah, so I mean, I mean, in the lion, it's got this, I mean, it's kind of like lion a Judah, but it has like a crown, and then it kind of bleeds into the rest of it, trying to make a piece out of it with its main kind of turning into fire and then it gets like crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And then um... What's that shield? What was the thing you were talking about? Shield? I have a shield. It's a Celtic sun. So it's got the symbol of... Because you're Irish. Yeah, because I'm Irish and it traces of that, so... That's it though, That's all I got What about the one in one of my butt? Yeah, that's just for my wife
Starting point is 00:25:35 All right Adam go ahead. Well, I got I got a lot, bro So well tell us about the like the most like I guess everything on me has actually meaning the only that does not It's my very first tattoo, which is the stupid Bob wire tattoo. So the Oh, no, you got the, the very, the barbruders. Yeah, before Pamela, Pamela Anderson, before Pamela Anderson, Oh, a pre Pamela. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Before Pamela Anderson. It's an homage to her. Like, it was a very fun tattoo I got. It was, you know, it was when I first turned 18 years old and I picked it off a wall my buddy And I both went in he got he and he got the other generic tattoo He got a you know Chinese character He got the Chinese character that's even known it means that well we think it means self discipline
Starting point is 00:26:17 But what we know is for sure right, so you also picked it out of a book rough the wall and then the Bob wire tattoo because You know, I thought I had cool arms back then. It's about all I had back in them when I was working out. So, uh, that was the only one that has no meaning. So I ended up, uh, building a sleeve. Now, I wouldn't build a sleeve until I had set myself financial goals because I said to myself, if I ever had a job where, uh, I'd be exposed and it wouldn't look professional to have a sleeve that, uh, I wouldn't, I would, I've always wanted one, but I thought, okay, I better have enough money that I can afford to not have to work for somebody else so once I achieved that then the sleeve was on and I had all these these ideas and pieces that I want
Starting point is 00:26:54 so I'll start from the top where I have this is my grandmother so my grandmother I was very very close to she passed away about six years ago. I lived with her when I first moved to the Bay area and you'll see that she's holding on to an apple. That's probably the cleanest one you have for sure. Yeah, it came out really good. Yeah, it's one of my favorites for sure. And she's holding on to an apple.
Starting point is 00:27:18 The apple represents, she used to call me the apple of her eye. So she's holding an apple. She's also got cards and deck of cards in her hair. Her and I used to play me the Apple of her eye. So she's holding an Apple. She's also got cards, a dick of cards in her hair. Her and I used to play cards a lot. So especially in her later years and stuff, that was kind of our thing that her and I, she liked to gamble, I took gamble, we used to play cards together.
Starting point is 00:27:35 On the inside of my arm, there's a scale with a skull and then jewels and money and stuff, and that's the represent to have balance in my life. I'm a very money-motivated person and driven, but it's also a reminder to have balance in my life. I'm a very money motivated person and driven, but it's also a reminder to have balance in my life, which ties in also to the loyalty tattoo that's on my rib cage.
Starting point is 00:27:52 So I have the word loyalty written down my rib cage. And you know, do you remember the exercise I did with all you guys when we picked the three characteristics that everyone, do you remember doing that as a trainer for me? Back to the back of my mind. Sure. So I did an exercise with all my trainers where they had to pick values to them that are
Starting point is 00:28:08 really important. And they had made them first start with five and narrowed down to three and two of my three were balance and loyalty. So that's what those stand for. The cross is for my father. You've heard of me talking about my father for when I refer to my dad. I refer to my, it's my stepdad that I'm actually talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:27 My real father took his life when I was seven years old. So the cross is to represent him. The eyes that are lightly shaded above the cross or that his eyes are always watching me. The flowers that are near the cross are for the women in my family. So the big flower is my mother. The two flowers on the side of the cross are my sisters.
Starting point is 00:28:48 That's also what you see. The lips inside of my bicep, when I was younger, I used to flex my bicep. I used to make my sisters kiss my bicep. So they'd be sitting on the couch and I'd walk up and I'd shove my bicep in their face. That's awesome. Kiss it, kiss it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I make them kiss my bicep. Kiss my knees. So they're actually both my sisters lips and I had to tattoo them inside of my bicep. The birds, the front bird is a representation of myself and my friends that are following me. I've always been the leader in my group and friends and positions that I've always played
Starting point is 00:29:16 and played leadership roles. The heart with the samurai sword through it and then the scar and the bleeding on it. That's a reminder to be a better man for all the hearts that I've broken and the scars of my own. The committed committed is tattoo. The word committed is tattooed down my forearm. It's represents I'm committed to pretty much anything I do. So if I put my mind to something, I'm committed I'm all the way in. One of my best friends actually has that tattooed over his stomach.
Starting point is 00:29:41 My cousin and I both have the California which Sal was just teasing me about. I have I have the state of California with a star in NorCal to represent from NorCal. LA is not for Los Angeles. It's for my brother and I so Larry and Adam. So I utilize like the LA looking symbol. It looks kind of like LA. So everybody thinks I'm a Dodger fan or something. But it's not. It's not that. It's his initials in my initials. That's right. That are tied in together. The back of my tricep is the Scorpio symbol. And I think we got them all, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:30:14 And then my birthday is... And then I have a... It says established 1981, because I'm established in 1981. That's when I was born. Yeah. And I think that's it, bro. What about the one I announced? That one's too too big to explain. 1981 that's when I was born. Yeah, and I think that's it bro. What about the one I got on that one?
Starting point is 00:30:26 That one's too too big to explain. So So that's it man. It's a pretty much about my unicorn Thank you for listening to mine punk for more information about this show and to get valuable free resources from Sal, Adam, and Justin, visit us at www.mindpumpradio.com. Until next time, this is Mind Pump.

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