Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 049: The Douchebag Episode

Episode Date: March 25, 2015

Most people in the gym are cool but every once in a while you run into a real jerk. A few days ago one of our female MindPump listeners was interrupted by such a guy, a guy who simply does not understand or chooses to ignore basic gym etiquette.

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We put the cunning in Cunilingus. What? That'll be a big scenario, bro. How do you not know what that is? That's like your favorite thing in the world. And you know what that is. It's too sophisticated of a term, I think. That's not what it is, bro. You're such a feral dog. Fisticated of a term. I think

For the ladies he's the cunning linguist Boom alright, so So you guys might hear something crazy. Let's hear I always like Bro, let me tell you what happened. So I just got on this before you go start I like to always give my listeners a heads up that Sal is only person knows where the fuck this is going Yeah, we get this is this is podcast roulette. It is podcast We should always let them know that ahead of time because it's only if it's only fair because when when just a nice I completely we stupid when You

Because yeah, yeah So I wanted to talk to you guys about DNA and how it, no, I'm just kidding, I'm not going to go there. So I just, I'm very new to this social media thing, right? Adam, you were harping on me for months before I ever got on Instagram. So I've only been on there for, I don't know, nine months maybe.

And maybe three months ago, so this is a little bit of a story. So nine months ago or so, no, excuse me, three months ago, because I've been on for nine months. So about three months ago, I'm working out at goals, you know, the one that you guys go to. And this has never happened to me before, but this dude comes up to me with his buddy, right? And he walks up to me and he's like, Hey, are you mad, Santa Bollock? That's my name on Instagram. Don't you love that? Yeah, so I'm no weird.

It was fucking weird, right? Yeah, I mean, that's my birth name. Yeah, it was just weird, right? So I'm like, yeah, that's amazing. Dude, we're big fans, yours, bro. I love your pen, everything you talk about, bro. So he shakes my hand. And later on that day, he fucking takes a picture

and tags me on Instagram. So I'm like, OK, a fan, I guess. Super cool. This is interesting, right? Your first groupie'm like, okay, I a fan, I guess. Super cool. This is interesting. Yeah. Your first groupie. Yeah. Maybe, right. But, but this is, it gets weird. This is when it gets weird. Right. Tell us. So, all right. I would do it. It gets weird. I always like hearing this because I know like he's like a Justin's been hearing stories from me for like, I don't know, two years now, because we were a little bit ahead of him. So I always

like hearing your encounters and how this all plays out for you. So this is, so fast forward, we start recording our first show. So this is before we release any Mind Pump episodes. This is, so we release the episode on, if it fits your macros. This guy gets on our Instagram page. You remember who you guys remember who you are? Same guy.

Same guy. And for whatever reason, he gets like butt hurt about that episode because we basically said that there's a lot of people I know you're talking about it. Yes, because because we use he's you know We were talking about in the episode how some people use if it fits your macros as an excuse to just eat shitty all the time Right and for whatever reason so he gets on the Instagram page and he was like the most bipolar fucker I've ever met in my life like once like one comment would be about how awesome we are,

and then the next comment he'd be talking shit. And then he said something about, he said something to Justin, it was like the most backhead, like the most backhead of the whole of it. Dude, no, but I have to tell everybody that hasn't read this, that one of my favorite like put downs, I think, ever that I've ever received,

or us as a collective here here was that we were the Jersey Shore podcast. He said that There you awesome, which was awesome, right? I mean, I was like dude. I'm snooki Not to say to that totally You know Adam is I just J. Well, yeah, yeah, you're totally J I like how we take all the female characters with the fucker you then I don't know why Vinnie's the oh match Mike Yeah, you're right. No, for sure Mike the fucking the the abs dude. Yeah, bro Based on number of selfies

I'm sure yeah, based on number of selfies. Adam's got me beat on that one. I don't think I did, bro. I gotta feel, don't get up. You can't do it. My dogs are sprinkled in there, the Camaro's sprinkled in there. That's right. That's right. Some competition pictures of other people are in there.

You got to like, full on. It's all selfies. Oh, it's all selfies. It's all selfie land. So he does that, right? He gets on there and he gets on this weird debate with us and then gets all weird, like offensive, like offensive and then he's weird debate with us and then gets all weird, like offensive, he's like offensive and then he's happy and likes us

and then he hates us and I sort of got it. It's like he's crazy. At one point he said something like, well Adam and Sal are, you know, there were ectomorphs but Justin you understand me because you're an endomorph which is, he's basically saying like you're, you're jumping in, you're not, he's just doing all this weird shit.

So anyway, we don't hear from the go- Don't bring me in this shit. Yeah. So we don't hear from the go- Don't bring me in this shit. Yeah. So we don't hear from this guy for a while, right? Don't hear from him. I saw him once working out. He didn't say nothing. I didn't say anything.

I was watching him work out. Works out like an idiot. Didn't say anything, whatever. So this is where those times we don't mention anything. No, I'm like whatever, do anything, dude. So then, we started selling our programs, the MAP Santa Ballet program, the Nutrition and Survival Guide.

We sold quite a few of them, and remarkably quite a few women have been by in these programs, which I think, which we think is awesome. Anyway, one of our members, one of the people who bought the program, someone you know, who works with you. I don't know if we,

can we say her first name? She won't care, right? What's her first tab yellow? Yeah. Yeah, so she's working out at the gym. Now ladies, I feel for you when this shit happens because guys that do this shit ruin gyms for women because guys can be massive douchebags

and that's exactly what this guy did. So it's exactly what we talked about the other day. We just had a podcast we explained when someone asked a great question about going up and approaching people, about form or bad form. And that's just, this is why you don't do it right here because now you're the big asshole. You went over there. You think you're trying to help.

So are you say you're trying to help someone? But really what is your desire to come in? Normally what it is is people have their selfish motives. Obviously, you try to hit on her, dude. I think hit on her or he doesn't feel good about himself or he's but heard about maybe what you said to him, fucking six months ago, at the end of the day, like, if he was truly trying to help her,

he would have went over and cracked her form. First of all, I said another thing. He was point out or tell her how she has terrible form that didn't tell her how to do it right if she was doing it. Well, here's what happened exactly. So she was working out with another chick. So there's two people now that have witnessed who witnessed this, her and her friend.

So she has her headphones on first of all If someone's working out with headphones on and their mid-set if you stop them halfway through to talk shit to them You're an idiot. You're an asshole, right? You're just a massive asshole. So she has her headphones on trying to do that to me She's a punch in the face. Yeah, right. No, we'll punch them in the clock. That's your favorite thing to say It is yeah, so so she's wearing the cost right in the cup So she's working out headphones headphones on, she's doing, I think she's doing shrugs or shoulder, I don't remember what she was doing,

some exercise with shoulders. He stops her midway through her set. So, she has to like take off her headphone and he goes, what are you doing? And she's like, oh, I'm doing the shrugs or whatever. Well, what program were you following? She's like, oh, I bought this program online. I listen to Mind Plum, I'm doing this

Math Santa Pollock program. And he goes, oh, you bought this program online. I listen to mind plumb. I'm doing this map centipolic program and he goes oh You know what you don't need you shouldn't be working your shoulders and he walks away You shouldn't be working your shoulder. He went oh Yeah, she that's what she said. She said he made a face. She said he made a face like a disgusted face and then said you shouldn't work your shoulders So then this fucker comes on my Instagram page and I knew none of this, I didn't know any of this, right? And he randomly puts a comment and says, Sal, you've got so much experience as a personal trainer and you're teaching your clients shitty form,

ha ha ha, you should know better. And I'm like, huh? What's he talking about? Right. So yeah, and so then she goes and she posts on the private, we have a Facebook page, that's a private page where we help people, you know, online who have purchased our program.

So it's kind of like, it's like training, except you know, it's as close as you can get to training without having to hire us, one on one. So she gets on there and posts this whole thing and then me and Justin kind of connect the dots. It's that fucker. So then we go back and forth. And then if this all sounds like a familiar guy.

Dude, then we go back and forth on Instagram minute. This all sounds like a familiar guy. Dude, then we go back and forth on Instagram and he's like, he's talking massive shit about, and he starts tagging. He's tagging people and yeah, they're not even gonna come and get involved. They don't even know it's going on. They don't even come to rescue. I see, I saw everyone he was tagging.

I'm like, first of all, I've got a better relationship with everybody you're tagging right now. I doubt they're gonna come on here and talk some shit. Bro, he tagged one guy who came on there, and his buddy obviously didn't see what was going on. And he's talking shit and he's like, yeah, I don't, to his buddy. He's like, don't worry about this.

So, Matt sent a ball like his week. He doesn't even work out his legs. And I'm like, you obviously haven't seen my stick. Like, I could put your body in, send my quadricep. Yeah, so, and then he tagged his trainer, who he's like, he's the best trainer in the world, he changed my life, and you're talking shit about my trainer. I'm like, no, I know who your trainer is.

He's a great friend of mine, and obviously, he never came out. I didn't even bring that up. Yeah, so weird. So it's like, it's like this, I feel like he's like this, what is like, fatal attraction, like fan, like this weird. I feel like, and I'm a little afraid, like I'm gonna go out to my car and get shot

You know, I guess I didn't I didn't I was the only one who didn't jump into the the conversation Well, you weren't available. I'm glad you weren't cuz you go nuts. Yeah, you know what I said some shit Well, I've also I've also changed a little bit. I used to I used to light people up pretty good Just I know Justin used to love watching me. Oh, yeah, probably where I was at where you were at right now when it first started happening I didn't ask people. Oh, yeah. Probably where I was at where you were at right now when it first started happening. Did you ask people? Oh, bro, I'd blast people all the time. Just ask just roll and troll. Oh, yeah.

I used to just, I just take them out. I used to, I would set them up, let them come get me. Come get me and then I'm just gonna punk this shit out of you. Right? You better bring it if you're gonna bring it. So, you know, and I don't think it took me probably, I don't know, probably six, six, seven months of dealing with that before it just started, it just compounds, bro.

Yeah. It's going to get crazier and crazier and crazier. And then it just ignored it. Yeah, you can't, because you, and you'll be able to read sense those people right away, because he is just a nut job. He's somebody, I mean, he was following me way back when he's, I've met him personally and talked to him. And the kid talked, I don't, and I don't want to call his name out. I don't want any

Because I feel like because look we have pretty loyal fans. I feel like the harass the shit of him So I don't want to call this guy out. Yeah, I know but out but if you're listening, bro You keep fucking with us. We are gonna call you out Post your fucking picture on my Instagram and I'll post your name and you're gonna get fuck with So just shut the fuck Not messing with chicks in the gym. If you don't do that, yeah, yeah. What a douche.

Yeah, so I don't know, it's just crazy to me. It's like, I've never experienced anything like that. So if I run into him, what the fuck do I say? Well, it's, he, you know, he, knowing him, he'll probably come over and say, so he'll probably be off the wall and weird. And it's like, if you engage in it, it'll just, it'll just give you a headache. You know, I'm saying because there is no common sense to this

kid and a lot of them are that way. People send me the weirdest shit and say the weirdest shit to me sometimes. I mean, I love when like a normal person comes up and introduce themselves and say, hey, no, I know who you are and they talk to me and they have a normal conversation. Love that, dude. And I'm type of guy who will sit there and spend time with you and have a great conversation about fitness or whatever you want to talk about. And I'm fucking normal, just like everybody else. But when you're gonna be weird, you know what I'm saying?

Like, and it's always someone who like comes at you like kind of the right way first, like, oh man, you're just this, they're all, and you're like, oh cool, like you said, like, oh, it's like a fan, you know, he's, you know, he's all right. I was, it was so surreal because no one's ever done that to me. So I'm like, oh, wow, it's working, social media people are, you know, it's almost like, I almost feel like the, the approach you, and in their heads already, they've determined like, this guy, but this guy sells just to arrogant fuck and thinks he's this and that worth that.

And then they meet you, which, which could be, you're a really nice guy. You're a really, you're a really nice,. You're a really nice, you're a really nice, you're a really nice, you're a really nice guy. Really nice guy. And you know, encounters find this and that. And then you say something that I just disagree in and then I try and put my two cents in. And then you know what I'm saying?

And then it just goes from the escalates from there. Oh, then you're here. You need an asshole. No, you're an asshole. Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm doing now because then what happened is the girl that he went up to and did that to, I think she felt a little self-conscious afterwards and she's like, Oh, I'm sure.

And she's like, if I have bad form, you should help me instead of, you know, making me feel horrible. So, you know, listen, I invited her down to my gym and I'm going to take her through and I'm going to go watch her all her form and take her through because you're a nice guy, bro. Well, I guess I'm a pretty nice guy. It's just, you know, like I said, don't be a douchebag. Look out for our people, man. That's really what this is. Yeah, don't I'm a pretty nice guy. It's just you know like I said don't be a douchebag look out for our people man Yeah, yeah, don't mess with my people I you know, I don't make me get to selling and here's a thing like you I boy I I can't wait for the day come someone tries to get like this with us cuz it's I'm pretty nasty But pretty nasty by myself. I Sal is even more dangerous. So I dare you actually Salis I'm not a violent person. Oh, no, come on

Burbly I'll fuck you up, but I'm not a violent person. I'll hug you until you can't breathe I'll just squeeze the fuck out of you and then you can't I'm a lover. I'm gonna hug your neck. I'm gonna have your sleep. Here's the, yeah, the other day, nicest guy, everybody sit in this table, the nicest guys in the world, always there to help out. I mean, I feel like we have everybody's best interest in mind, whenever we do anything or say anything,

or like nothing but love for everybody. And even the haters I got love for. But if you're gonna, and that's I think, Sal and I agree and Justin all agree that, you know, if you're gonna fuck with our people we're gonna fuck with people that aren't like that. We're gonna make a podcast about it. Yeah we're gonna make a podcast first about it and we're gonna say some nice things and

kind of get the point across and then if you can change it yeah exactly then we're gonna really punk the shit out of you so. You know and it's it's true we are pretty you know we're like us like you were saying we're nice guys but we just want to help, we want to help people out. And look, if someone has a difference of opinion, I love discussing things with people in debating. Yeah, absolutely. The right though, dude. Yeah, don't go up to someone and be an asshole and then, you know,

and then go on my Instagram page and then, hey, guess what? I kind of feel like that's what that all stem from was, you know, I think he attempted to have an educated debate with you about if it fits your macro's way back when and he pretty much got Told you know told how it really works, you know how it really gets down and you know At the end of the day like You're wrong bro. You say you're wrong. It's okay. Everyone not everybody's right You don't know everything and your trainers coming up and you're learning stuff at the science

It's always evolving things are changing and it's okay not to know everything, you know Well the truth is if you're if you work hard if you're in the gym and you're busting your ass and even if you're doing everything wrong You've earned my respect If you're putting in the work and you're trying and you're you know busting that look I've managed gyms for a long time 90% of the men and these are these were not gold gyms These were you know your your big warehouse, you know fitness clubs 90% of my members knew nothing. I didn't know what the fuck they were doing and but I respected all of them for showing up and trying and Anybody who wanted help I give it to them. I always get even when I was a general manager

I didn't even I wasn't even a personal trainer for a lot of my career because I was a general manager But I would still go out on the floor It was one of my favorite one of my favorite things I would still go out on the floor. It was one of my favorite things to do was go out on the floor and help people exercise. And the funny thing is, you know, you guys know this, is GMs, how many GMs used to do that? How many managers would actually go out on the floor and help people with working out?

I used to, that was my favorite thing to do because you're there to get in shape and shape. Well, you're a fitness guy first, you know, saying about it. Law gyms, law gyms were money sales first, or what do I do, I came from something else. No, fitness is my passion. You know, I don a lot of gyms were money sales first, or what I thought came from something else. No fitness is my passion. You know, I don't,

I would do this for free. This is kind of a little off a little on topic with this. I'm curious if you remember this ever happening for you, I can actually think of a couple times as I had to deal with this. You ever had, if you had like a female trainer that was working for you, that was young first coming up,

like maybe fresh out of college or just got, there's her certifications and just starting as a female trainer that was working for you. That was young, first coming up, like maybe fresh out of college, or just got, there's her certifications. And just starting as a personal trainer working for you. And I used to, this happened a few times, where like other men in the gym would kind of like give her a hard time as far as like, you know, she'd be teaching a client or this to that. And like I've had to go like really rip into a member before

for like interrupting her session to like try and tell her, tell the trainer and stuff. And why she's training at school. Yeah, did you ever have stuff like that? You know, I did, but I didn't have to jump in because the female trainers that I had working for me were, like these are the last chicks you'd wanna fuck with. Yeah.

Like, you know, like Homerra. Oh yeah. I'm gonna give her a shout out because I love her. She's with us. She's one in a million though when it comes to, like, you know, like, like, or talk shit to what I was like posted. She jumped on there. Oh yeah, she was the first one to light somebody up. You know, I love this girl, dude. So just that that's the kind of personality. So just imagine I can imagine somebody trying to walk up and punk her. You just you just got to be confident in your in your in what you're doing and the the girl trainers that I used to have were just very confident in that.

And of course, if anybody messed with them, we'd all jump on them, but nobody, I mean, they could totally handle themselves. It was pretty awesome. We had conflicts in the gym, but, and believe it or not, it was usually with, it was always the older members that would fuck with each other. Like, I had a bat, you managed clubs with basketball courts. It was always fights, right? It's never the kids that get in fights.

It's always like the 45 year old dudes that get in and they're used to crack me up. Yeah. Yeah. It's like they're only testosterone. How? My wife won't put out. Let me punch you in the face. Yeah, I did deal with it a lot. I had quite a few females that worked for me and not all of them were. I had a couple of really strong ones and I had some that were not as strong person, not no, you know, Homer, type of personality. But the and those are the ones I had to couple really strong ones and I had some that were not as strong person, not known, you know, Homer, type of personality. But the, and those are the ones I had to step in for and stuff because that's, and that's, so that's a huge pet peeve of mine, you know,

for messing with someone like that. There's a way to do things and there's a way to not, you know, and that if you're kind of come in and try and put your two cents in and like that, you better come right, you know. I used to hate it when people would give advice and it would be like the most bro science horrible, you know. Yeah, but if you do this a certain way,

it works on the peak of your bicep and you do this, it makes your bicep longer. And I actually one time a member was saying that, so as I was giving a tour, he jumped in and was saying that to the person I was touring. Like this makes your bicep longer. And I said, no, it doesn't. I said, unless you can take your bicep off the bone

and attach it somewhere differently, that's not gonna happen. But it was totally embarrassing. But yeah, don't try and freaking block my sale. Just because the gym's busy and you can't use the equipment because I've sold to my younger kids. Don't be trying to cock them. I used to have this old school dude that was like,

I don't know, probably late 60s, early 70s. They used to be like an old-timer body builder and he used to come in around five or six p.m. at night. And when I'd be training my clients, he'd be coming over like trying to talk to me and trying to tell me what I should be telling my clients with the dude. Oh my God.

You should be telling, you should be telling. You should be telling a weight belt. You should be taking it, yeah. Oh, totally, all time. Big ol' huge fat dude. That was like holding everything together. Yeah, yeah. And it was great though.

It would be telling me. The leather glove. It's just a leather weight belt skinny in the front. It's a tearable, terrible form form like just bad for all that and then Still have the nerve to come over and let me know what I should be having her do you should be having her over here doing this Yeah, she should be doing this over here really bro all donkey kicks I guess you just have to have especially if we're on social media and now that we're we know we have this show Whatever you just have to have thick skin because if you are popular enough You're gonna have people talk shit people are gonna they're gonna there's gonna be hate it

I mean, I mean in as audience grows. That's just that's the inevitable right because I remember Craig our good friend Craig Caprsel Isn't there a picture you posted of a front double bicep it's some guy come at some great stories some guy commented and put week Chess oh, you know, you know, we have no yeah, that's what it was it was week chess We have to do we have to get him on again because him and I were just hanging out the other day. That's what I was with him the other day. And he was just telling me and others.

He gets the best ones, dude. He gets the best. He gets riled up. Why does he get riled up? That's funny. Why do they do that? Because they get a ride. Oh, he gets heated, bro.

I wish I remember what he just told me because I would love to share the story right now because it was another person. Did he say he trying to create like a show where he would go to like find out who it was go there. Oh, yeah Yeah, that was that was when he He was trying to mimic the what you call it show right the fight club or the He was gonna cyber bully beat down Even bought the you bought the domain name. He still owns the domain.

Yeah, it's great. Yeah, no, he just had one and I'm trying to think what the guy was giving him a hard time about. I want to say it had something to do. It's always like either his form. They're giving him shit on. Was it a wrist wrap? No, that was a good one.

That's all that. So when just gave him a hard time about, he was like dead living like five or 600 pounds, right? And the guy was giving, oh, you, oh, you use wrist wraps. Does it count? Does it count or I had so much respect for you before I found out. That's what it was. I had so much respect for you before I found out you used wrist wraps.

Wow. And he gets like so, he's so ready to like to see. After he does, dude, he gets, so he's so ready to like And when he tells the story back to me, it's like all fired up Probably I'm like pro relax dude. You can kill that guy Yeah, I don't even know I don't I don't know if I know any another human as strong as he is like all around Yeah, he's just he is a strong. He's a pretty you know what he's doing right now I don't know actually I shouldn't share cuz I don't know if I think he's actually riding a program So I won't share it, but offline. I'll tell you guys he's he's doing something pretty cool right now

But he's a beast. Yeah, he's squatting every other day right now He's a horse and like just putting up weight, dude That's why I don't like him deadlifting. I don't want him to freaking destroy me. Well, I need to have that one lift It's well never work out. He always hits me up. He's like, what do you do on this weekend? You want to go lift on Saturdays? No, I can't. No, bro, I can't make that do you sorry? Yeah. Call me when you want to go swimming or something.

My fling hurts. Yeah. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. For more information about this show and to get valuable free resources from Sal, Adam, and Justin, visit us at www.inepumpradio.com. Until next time, this is Mind Pump.