Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 069: Advice to our Younger Selves

Episode Date: April 26, 2015

What advice would you give your younger self if you had a chance? This was a question posed by one MindPump listener on Instagram (@mindpump) and it ballooned into an entire episode. Given a chance th...ere is a lot that Sal, Adam and Justin would would advise their younger selves to do differently. This episode reveals their biggest and sometimes cringe-worthy mistakes and how they would correct them.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, Justin Andrews, and Adam Schiefer. And guys, there's someone to ask this a really good question, and I think we should do a whole episode on it. One episode on one question. How can it do that? Wow, must be a good question. It's a great question. So this question comes from, this is Instagram, comes from JXSP. And the question is, if you could give your younger self advice, what would it be?
Starting point is 00:00:49 What a great question. Yeah, what would you tell your younger self? Oh my God. Yeah, so we got to fit this all on an hour. Tell us, tell us Adam, what would you, what would you tell yourself? Oh man. Well, I tell you what, because there's so many things that I don't want to miss something. I'll start with something.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Watch yourself right after something. Yeah. You know, no, actually honestly, I never did a clinic. I would start the first thing that comes to mind to me for sure is I would have got myself reading and reading what I like to read now. So at an earlier age.
Starting point is 00:01:26 So you would have recommended yourself books. Yeah. You're younger self would have been like, man, I'm a, yeah, you're a dork. So I grew up to be a dork. It was, it was, I was, I was a long one. That's why I really have his very reasons.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I was so, but it was like, I want to say it was like 25 years old that I get really into reading. And I started picking book after book up and And never was it and when I say books, I don't read novels. I can't read a novel. I cannot get into it You like nonfiction. You like true stuff. Yes. I need I need to I need a book for crazy baby You know, it's so good He just threw that Real quick He just threw that. Oh, hey, real quick before we might as well address that.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Adam's on the cover of a new romance novel. Oh, God. Called Crazy Babies. Oh, God. There we go. Yeah, you guys should wait to get into work today with you fuckers. I can hear about this. Oh, I'm waiting for my book signing.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I bought it just for the cover. Oh, God. All right, Adam, continue. I'm positive. Is it accurate though? Like, you know, I have a depiction. I haven't read it. I haven't read it.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I don't think I, I don't know if I ever will, although I've got clients that have read it, and they've, they've given me feedback on the story. Like, it's actually a sequel to another book. So I've handed out that book into a couple clients and, like, a good, a good, a good, a good reading material. Yeah, it's, good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a You know what Justin boom boom we should we should read it and give a book review. Oh my god love that And you know we'll do we'll read excerpts. Yes, I'm ready to put money No, no, no, I'm gonna make Adam act it out. I Don't even know you want that dude. Oh, okay, baby. No, this is yeah, I bet you guys money
Starting point is 00:03:20 You couldn't even finish it just because the fact your boys on the front cover I mean that shit you guys couldn't even finish it. I'll but I got 500 bucks as you couldn't read it from cover to cover 500 bucks 500 bucks as you should not I'll take that I'll take that bet no you won't make a cover to cover I'll take I have a confession what I already read it no I'm just kidding I don't want it to ruin the story I already made up about you so you want to read more? Is what you're saying? Yeah, I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I'm trying to get back to the room. So what books would you recommend to your younger self? You know, I got into some, John C. Maxwell is probably one of my favorite authors that I first started getting into. So I love that. And you could categorize that as self-help or leadership. I took a lot of good leadership stuff in there. One of my favorite ones, developing the leader within,
Starting point is 00:04:07 that was one of the first ones I read. And that would probably be one of my first starters, as far as a specific book. Jack Welch's winning was another great book that I read back then. And there's some actually very, very impactful book, even though it's a really short, easy read, was a one minute manager. I thought that was, that changed my philosophy and how I used to lead.
Starting point is 00:04:28 So when I was younger, I was responsible for leading, you know, got most everybody who worked for me was older than me. So I was, you know, I was 20 years old and managing a staff that was, you know, average age was probably 25 to 35 and above. So, you know, I was young and, was young and my mentality back then was kind of, I was young and I was talented, but I was still very young-minded. And so, my way of being successful was,
Starting point is 00:04:56 I could outwork most people. I'm in fact, I've met maybe one or two people in my life that can keep up with my work pace. And that was just something that I pride in myself on as like, Hey, I may not be the most talented person with that, but you know, I'll work as anybody. So I had that kind of mentality going in and it was like run with me or get ran over. And I'd always find one or two people who believed in my philosophy and liked me as a leader and they would follow me and we would be very successful.
Starting point is 00:05:24 It wasn't until I got later my career I started reading and getting into like leadership books on better ways and one minute manager was one of my favorite reads Even though it was a short a short book. I thought the the whole point of the book really changed my philosophy and training So I if I went back in time I would tell my just one piece of advice. I'd say buy Google I would tell my just one piece of advice. I'd say buy Google That's a Not fair do this okay back up do you look back? No, no, you can't change it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no say that if you're gonna go there, then I would have done a lot of other things too. I mean, you would have. No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing. I'm teasing. Right. So legit legit. What I would say, what you want to just stick with me on the books here, like I'm sure we all have a book or something, even though actually you know you were reading the fucking cycle period by the time I was always I was always I forgot the nerd was already reading. Yeah, I would wait. You know, would you go back and tell
Starting point is 00:06:19 you something cool shit? No, no, no, you know what I would say? This is what I would say. I would say be fearless. Because I did take lots of risks when I was a kid in terms of business. You scared a lot when you were giving me a ride. Well, no, I'll just strike me as that. Well, let me explain. So I started my first business, let's see, I bought my first gym when I was 21.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So I was really young, but I had an opportunity at the time. This is, so I was, when I was, this is when I was working at 24, I had an opportunity to go run, or be in a management position in Hong Kong. Go run one of those big bad boy clubs up over there. And it was, I was just too intimidated. I was away from my family.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I was young. And looking back, I should have fucking done that. That's, that would have been such an amazing experience. It's so weird or a story or so, so, so, because you know, what happened to me and it was, when I was, it was right before I bought my house, I thought you what made me stay in California as I was in a transfer and working Hawaii for a year. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I had the approval for the transfer, all set up to go. See, that would have been sick. And then I would imagine Hong Kong. Like a match. Oh yeah, no, that would be awesome. And it might, although I would be scared to do. I would be scared to get to do.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I was just scared and my buddy went over there. He actually did it. He was older than I was and he went over there and did it. And this guy was making crazy money. Like those clubs were doing. we so here in in in California North cowl We had some of the biggest closeouts right where we do 50 60 gram, which is ridiculous These clubs were having hundreds of thousands of dollars closeouts
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah, and you know they were doing insane deals and they had sales guys making 200 grand a year Well, I think saying the average training staff too is like you know 10 to 15 trainers out of a big club And they had like 50 to 75 trainers had a one facility. It's crazy. You had you had to wait 30 minutes to take a shower At certain at certain times of the day in some of those clubs and I and just also the whole experience of Hong Kong Just a different country different culture And that's what intimidated me if I could go back in time I would have told myself don't be such a fucking pussy, get your ass, go to Hong Kong,
Starting point is 00:08:07 because that would have been such an amazing experience. That was such a big regret of mine. You know, looking back. It would have been, I think it would have been awesome. So, what about you, Justin? I don't know, like I was, as you guys are talking, I was trying to think about that. Like each pivotal moment in my life
Starting point is 00:08:22 is led to something else that's open that's been crazy. So for me, it's hard to be like, change this about yourself and suggest something else that because I feel like it's all intertwined. Like I, I went on this, this crazy journey where I just decided I'm going to move to Chicago. I know nobody there, you know, I'm going to, I'm just going to try something else that's totally new. So once I sort of got into that mentality, like everything has been that same sort of thing. Like, take risks, do this. And like, I actually really liked that. I started to do that more often after I moved out there and took a chance and kind of found my way into what I'm doing
Starting point is 00:09:03 now, which I love this. I love that it's evolved into where I am now, and I'm enjoying it and taking risks on multiple different things. So I would just think that maybe back when I was younger, like not to get so frustrated with the fact that I wasn't like your typical student in class, and that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You know, I was always sort of compared to other people. And like, you know, my brother, or, you know, the top students in the class, or, you know, somebody that was like extra spiritual and church, or, you know, or somebody else that, and that always used to frustrate me because I always felt like out of place. And now I love that.
Starting point is 00:09:45 But back then, I was so like, I felt, I just felt like this disconnect. I didn't feel like I fit in. And even in college, I didn't really fit in. I went to this real conserva school. And I'm just like, at this point, I absorbed a lot of the values, but you know what? I'm my own person. I'm just setting my own path. I'm doing my thing, and I'm creating things. I love creating things.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So anyway, that's from... You know that reminds me of, I think that's such a good point too, that you would go back and tell yourself, like, think of high school, right? When you were in high school, just the way kids just naturally become segregated, right? And you've got the cool kids that are the superjokes and they're all the same five to 10 kids are in the prom running and this and that. And you know, when you're this kid, like you say,
Starting point is 00:10:33 like maybe you're just a little bit different than everybody else, like you compare to that all time. And you get so hung up on that where kids get depressed and kids have all the issues and bullshit they got going on. It's like, dude, what you don't even realize is that script gets fucking flipped in about 20 years.
Starting point is 00:10:47 In 20 years, the kids that were nerds not talking to anybody or they're fucking doing their homework in straight days, thinking about college, moving along on that, just the outcast, they're the ones freaking popping bottles rolling around in yachts, flying everywhere all over the world and stuff like that. The kids that were the fucking high school, like, they're still in that same town, and yachts flying everywhere all over the world. And you're like that. The kids that were the fucking high school,
Starting point is 00:11:05 they're still in that same town, fucking drinking beers after at the local bar, and you're fucking working at some whatever, you know? But that's a trip to, that would be a great thing to go back and tell, like, you know what, like, yeah, like don't, like, stop, like, don't trip. Like don't worry about.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's all part of the journey. Don't, don't trip because it gets better. Like, high school socks, like, and if you peaked in high school then your life sucks It's true. There's you know those kids look there's some key left thank God for Facebook right cuz you can look back and see kids You went to school with and I'm you know look at somebody's I like oh my god that dude was such a like he was so Poppally was such a stud and the dude looks you know looks like shit now and he doesn't you know he peaked early Right, you know that was like the pee and I'm sure he always probably thinks back to high school
Starting point is 00:11:45 and how all the stories always revolve around high school. Yeah, like that uncle on Napoleon Dynamite, you know, that the voice of the football. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a perfect, it's a perfect, it's a perfect, right now. Well, see, when I was in high school, I wasn't, I wasn't a nerd, I wasn't a super-Mr. Popular. I kind of was friends with everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I was probably known for speaking out a lot in class and debating or arguing with the teacher. I know, it's hard to believe. But I never really felt like I belonged. Not that I didn't fit in. I mean, I can hang out with anybody. I just didn't feel like this is like, I don't know, this isn't right for me.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And the first time I ever felt like this is home was when I worked in a gym. My very first day, I'll tell you guys a story. My very first day as a personal trainer, I go in there and this is at the time when 24 used to do the fit start. I don't know if you guys remember, you guys probably weren't there at the time.
Starting point is 00:12:37 You guys started later than I did. And this was like the orientation. So my fitness manager introduces me to this top trainer in the club. And he says, you know, follow this guy around all day And he's gonna teach you how to do these orientations and the goal of these orientations is show people how to use equipment and sign them up So right off the bat he takes me through I follow him around He does two-fit starts and he says hey, you should take the next couple I think you just wanted to take off so I said sure no problem that day
Starting point is 00:13:04 I sold three thousand dollars with the personal training. I think you just wanted to take off. So I said sure no problem. That day, I sold $3,000 with a personal training. This is my first day. And this is back in the day when the club goal, like the top clubs are doing like 13 grand. He would do like two grand in a whole month, and he was like a god in that club. And I hit three grand that first day. And I remember thinking,
Starting point is 00:13:19 and everybody was like tripping over that. Like, oh my God, what's, and I remember thinking like this is easy. I just felt like this is what I was made to do. I was made to be in fitness. I was made topping over that. Like, oh my God, what's, and I remember thinking, like this is easy, like I just felt like this is what I was made to do. I was made to be in fitness, I was made to talk about fitness, and I was made to spread this energy and passion I have for it. And what's funny is I didn't get that feeling again.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I kinda did as when I became a general manager because I love working with large teams, but I didn't get it again till we started this podcast. That same feeling happened again, where I was like, whoa, this is what I'm supposed to do. Like I'm supposed to talk. I think we can all echo that. You know, I think for sure that I would tell myself
Starting point is 00:13:51 to start this shit sooner. That's what I have. Yeah, yeah. What about this? What would you tell yourself like related to financial, like for example? Oh, dude. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:01 My Google, no, I'm just gonna go back to that. You know, just back to your, even your habits, like some things that like, you know, here's some, here's some lessons I learned the hard way. So, you know, at a very, at a young age when I was successful. So for me, I'm early 2020, 21 years old. I was doing very well making good money. And I used to, when I come back, I would get things for my younger siblings. My younger siblings were, you know, didn't have that much stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:24 They had stuff, they had everything. And anytime I could add extra money, I would siblings didn't have that much stuff. They had stuff, they didn't have everything. And anytime I had extra money, I would buy them stuff. But one of the things I did because they were young and I did that all the way, I trained them into getting used to that. And it was almost became like, so when they started to become teenager, and I really feel guilty for creating bad habits for them
Starting point is 00:14:41 where here they are getting older, and they started to expect it as they started getting older. And it's like, that was crazy, man. And I didn't really started to stop it until they got caught up to an age where I was like, we're starting to realize, what was I doing at that age? Like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:14:55 You guys are way behind right now. If you're still asking me for shit like this. You know what's interesting is that, this, I mean, you are very similar in this respect. The way you talk about your young, because you're the oldest, like I am, I'm the oldest of four. Do you have more of a kind of,
Starting point is 00:15:10 you're definitely an older brother, but it's almost like you're kind of like a parent. I am exactly the same way as my siblings, and everything I ever did, if they did the same thing, I was always careful, like I better not do this, because then they might do the same thing, or I gotta be careful. It's almost like I was helping,
Starting point is 00:15:24 I felt like I had to be such a role model for them. And so that's kind of what you're what's coming across with. Exactly. And this is what, and the reason why I'm sharing this is because, you know, it's forever altered my relationship with my two younger siblings. You know, I don't, I don't have the, you know, we're good 10 to 15 years apart between the two youngest ones. And I don't get to, I don't get to have that brother sister relationship like I have like with my sister who's like a year younger me. And it's not because I don't try. And I don't get to have that brother sister relationship like I have with my sister who's like a year younger me. And it's not because I don't try it.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And I want it to be that I've created that for myself, because I've been more like a parent within that. They don't call me up to tell me the first time they kissed a boy or the first time they messed with. The first time they tried a drug. The first time they did something this, like I don't get that brother phone call or they don't talk about that stuff
Starting point is 00:16:02 because they think I'm gonna get pissed. And I'm gonna scold him or I'm gonna get onto with that. Yeah, you know It's it's kind of a shitty situation for me and and all I can do is hope that as they get older that it'll you know We'll grow closer and and that and they'll trust me to be more the brother than like a father figure So you know if I could go back I think that's it. That's something big. I would that's a good one I would have done I would have done things differently Financial that way that would have changed
Starting point is 00:16:25 the relationships and the way I built with my ever, my ever-sebo- Well, so, I, so, kind of similar in terms of finance, but I would have told myself, if I went back in time, you know, I was making a shitload of money, I was extremely conservative, I threw it all in the bank and I lived with my parents. Okay, so I'm making six figures
Starting point is 00:16:41 and I buy a Volkswagen and I live with my parents, which is okay, that's good, that's smart, I didn't go spend it however. I didn't invest it. I just threw it on the bank Mm-hmm And if I could go back in time I would have been like because I wanted to buy property and stuff But I was too scared because I had nobody to really help me Mm-hmm. You know what to do? So I just you know, I just saved it So I had a huge savings account, but it wasn't making shit for me and I had I invested invested it, she's by now I'd be, you know, I'd be, be rolling.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah. I mean, I could totally echo that. Yeah. Yeah. Investments and just overall knowledge of financial, you know, security and sell yourself up. You know, you don't, you have to learn it. It's like you're shooting from the hip because a lot of people that do know, they're not
Starting point is 00:17:21 real willing to tell you, you know, unless unless they're really close to you and they want to help you out and reach out to you, because otherwise, that stuff's hard to come by. Well, you know what, there's this unsaid rule, but you don't share your salary, you don't talk about money, people just don't... It's such a personal thing, which is not, it is. It's a hard one to get good information about.
Starting point is 00:17:43 If you're someone who's young, late teens teens early 20s coming through and you're trying to learn like the ropes on credit and how to buy a house and the things that you should do or other investments like your Tom Bell, what you could be doing with your money while you're saving it and better ways to leverage yourself. Right. Take up an IRA even. Yeah, unless you got, unless you got Uncle Richard who's super brilliant guy who sits down and talks to you and shares all this, this, this special details with you or you're reading it in some book which you're probably not reading
Starting point is 00:18:08 either that young of an age. You're just kind of winging it and trying to figure it out. I mean, that's a great one. I think that's a great point. Well, they leave, you know, school leaves kids so unprepared for reality. We talked about this. We talked about this before. I know the three of us all agree on this is that I would totally, if I had a whole the educational system, the curriculum would be like, fucking 50% different. So for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:29 More than that, I mean, first of all, you graduate, you don't know how to invest, you don't know what interest rates are, you don't know loans, you don't know how credit cards really work, you don't know how to start a business, you don't know how the economy works, you ask a kid about economics, and I'm talking about like a 17 year old kid,
Starting point is 00:18:47 and they're literally ignorant on the whole subject. They'll say stuff like, oh, the government should just give everybody a job, and then everybody would be, I'm like, okay, because they don't understand economics. They don't understand real economics. These are things, and this is why, and we had an episode where we talked about, if we had $100 million what we do,
Starting point is 00:19:05 and I talked about those nonprofit that I wanted to do where I teach these types of things to kids. Man, imagine if you took a bunch of, because we were motivated kids, right? Imagine if we learn that shit at 18 years old from guys like us now. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah, yeah. Just to learn how to invest, how to buy a property. What interest rates mean? Why you should do this, why should you do that? Because you have no idea. Oh, and it's, I don't, I know people in their 30s that still don't get it. Right, where do you learn it?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, if you haven't bought a house or experienced that, yeah, in your life, they have to at one point and say, that's some shit you should have learned up. Because just like you said, so now I was lucky. I had somebody who was older me. I didn't like when I had saved up, just the guys were so similar in so many ways. So I said I live with my grandmother and I drove around the same car I had in high school and I was making six figures and I was just
Starting point is 00:19:53 stacking money. Yeah. And I got to the point where I think I had a little over 50,000 saved up. So I had less than you saved up. And my buddy was like, dude, get a house. You need to get a house right now. Roll that money into a house. It's a great time. This is what's going on. And I'm like, I don't know anything. So what do I do? I go buy some books. And this is what I'm getting into reading this time.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And the first book I read was Real Estate Riches by Robert St.Gaede, Rich Dad Portad. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? Qisaki. Qisaki. Qisaki.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, he did the Rich Dad Portad. Great book. Both books are great. So immediately I get into all that and then I had a good friend who sat down and like taught me like how to read how to read loans and stuff and understand it to a point because this is actually a whole other store we can get into because you fucked me that I found out later on like five years later. Crazy, right? So, you know, and this is why like I had no idea. I had no idea how to read a hood. I don't even know what a hood was.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And I didn't know how important that would be to make sure you don't get screwed on a loan. Cause what happened was I had a good friend of mine, show me the front end and how I was getting charged on the front end, which he was not charging me any money on the front end. It was on the back. And he hit me on the back with the bank.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And like most people have no idea what that even means. And they can do that to you when you're buying a car and they can do that to you when they're buying a car, and they can do that to you when they're buying a house, and you make big purchases. And like, who's not teaching you that? You should be aware of that. If you're getting nailed for something like that, you should at least know, you know. And I didn't.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And I didn't find out until I refinanced my house, like four or five years later. And when I was refinancing it, and I was explaining to the next person who did my loan, they're like, oh no, no, I can look at all your papers and see what you did. Like, no, he made 12 grand off of you. And I was like, oh,, no, I can look at all your papers and see what you did. No, he made 12 grand off of you. And I was like, oh, he told me he didn't make any money. Not only that, he guilted me in giving him my brand new laptop that I just bought because he was doing it for free. Oh.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And I, you know, right, totally worked game on me, right? But it was also one of the best things I ever did because guess what, I mean, I did buy my house. I didn't go anywhere. And while that, I learned, and then my house, you know, continued to go up in equity and go, go, go. So at that point, around 24, 25 years old, after I'd had it for about three, four years,
Starting point is 00:21:51 I'd made it good over 100,000 plus just an equity from the home, which is if it wasn't for him kind of pushing me into it and taking advantage of me, I wouldn't have probably got in that early because I wasn't educated on it. I didn't know. I didn't think like I was ready to buy a house or that would be a smart investment.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But it was, if you knew how to follow real estate and understand how that's related to the stock market and things like that and like end-economics like you talked about, then you can follow things like that and you can pretty much predict like to the most part like where we're at. Are we on a downward trend? Are we on an upward trend?
Starting point is 00:22:20 And you know, would this be a good time or a bad time to buy? And if it is a good or a bad time to buy, are those good rates for that time or not? Like these are all, well especially when you're a kid, it's like you have no, the risk for you is so small. Like what are you gonna lose?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Like yeah, I already live with my mom. Like what am I gonna lose? You know what I'm saying? Like now I got wife kids and you know, other things like okay, now I gotta be careful, but you know, when I was 21, when I bought a jam down in Palm Desert, which is now by Palm Springs,
Starting point is 00:22:44 I took a hundred grand and put it in there. And I had nothing to lose, right? To do something like that now would be so scary. But and the funny thing is I should have even had, I should have even taken more risks back then. When I look back, I was still being conservative. That's how I feel. Back when I was younger, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:23:01 you realize now how many things are tied to you. And just like, even though I still take big risks, they're very much more calculated. So even back then, it would have been fun to do a couple more of those pursuits without any strings attached and just been... Oh, you're saying like when you were back with your parents or when you were back in my parents?
Starting point is 00:23:21 When you were in a situation two fail, like where you say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We could fail, not be screwed. Yeah, you could just get back up on your feet do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah, back in my parents. When you were in a situation two fail, like you were, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we could fail, not be screwed. Yeah, you could just get back up on your feet, you know, it's just when you're young, you don't think in those terms for sure. So yeah, what about, what about your guys? I, obviously, because this is a fitness podcast, what do you guys, what about like your own
Starting point is 00:23:38 fitness? Oh, wow. Like, what would you say for yourself if you went back in time when you first started working out, like one piece of advice for, I would bring our maps at a ball program back to me and be like listen bro I know you think you should train arms and do this and do that follow this to a tee just work it to watch how much you grow over the next four to five years I wish I would have been doing foundational movements like that from a very I wasn't because I wasn't a football player. You know, and that's probably, probably anybody that's our generation unless you did have some bodybuilding background
Starting point is 00:24:09 or a pretty smart kid or were in football, you weren't training that way, you know. You weren't doing deads and heavy squats. No, nobody was just a random 17 year old boy. You know, the squat rack said, all kinds of dust on it back in my days. I remember nobody used to do that stuff. So, you know, I wish I could have went back and,
Starting point is 00:24:26 even when I was a gosh, even an early trainer. So I would go back and tell myself everything. The two biggest things in fitness I would tell myself is teaching me, basically like our program, foundational training, building yourself inside out and starting the right way and continuing to build off of that. And then the other thing would be the nutrition piece. Oh man, exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I ate so much garbage trying to gain weight. So did I. I just ugly cowards. Today's a live of a hot pockets. What I think of that because the macros lined up, I'd be like, oh, I just eat hot pockets. I'd be like 15 grams of protein. I'll eat three of them.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, exactly. That was totally my mentality back then. And it was, it was awful. I could not figure out what, and then, so those two things, nutrition, and that I think would be the two biggest things that I would go back with from the fitness self and tell myself, you know, and just stick with that.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I'm sure, got to kind of imagine how far far further along we'd be. Oh, what about you, Mr. Jim? I actually would probably got more into unconventional type training a lot earlier before everybody started adapting it, you know, and it became so mainstream. It's like, you guys remember back when kettlebells were like, what the hell is that?
Starting point is 00:25:32 And if you watched, like, what happened with, you know, everybody that came out of that as far as gurus, like, there was just like so many different gurus and they're making so much money just off of that one thing. I just feel like I do that type of stuff anyway just because it interests me to not always be tied down to the gym. I like to do things a little bit differently. Now everything is associated to CrossFit if you do that. So, I would have loved to introduce more of that into the market before CrossFit
Starting point is 00:26:08 became this powerhouse it is today, just to not have that association. It's just so tiresome. Damn you CrossFit. Yeah. It's like, you stole it. Everything is CrossFit. All right, well, this is what I want to ask you guys.
Starting point is 00:26:23 What would you go back and tell yourself from like your, what's the word I'm looking for? Pre-P-Besson? No, no, yeah, like if you were, if you know the dad talk, the birds and the bees, the sexual, if you're gonna go tell yourself about sex, what sex is gonna be like future out there. And when you should start doing it, how you should do it. this sell yourself about sex. What sex is gonna be like future out there.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And when you should start doing it, how you should do it. I know descriptive are gonna be yourself. Some of the dudes, exactly. Like what are you gonna let yourself know? That would be an awkward conversation. That young and age, do you feel like you do need to go through the whole process of learning the hard way
Starting point is 00:26:57 and doing things or something's wrong? Or do you wanna make yourself like Mr. Swap right out the gates, dude? Like no one wants to get it down right away? What would you say what would you say well? I for me I think I've been with the same person for so long This is not a good clip this is not a good question for me because I've been with the same person so long So you're gonna have to go Adam. I'm don't don't shit to me. I asked the question first. Just let's go first I want to I want to know you got what you guys squirm a little
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm just I did not answer For me I probably would What about this? How about just in general with girls like what would you say to yourself about? Yeah, give me anything now. It doesn't have to be just I don't want to you know that give me like bedroom talk like I mean I would I would hear I'll start okay you guys are fucking getting all bashful no no no I'm not even bashful like if you're talking about like are you gonna like coach yourself or are you just gonna explain like you know your mistakes and all that I think I think it would be it
Starting point is 00:27:56 would be cool to kind of give yourself a sort of heads up you know like hey you know this is this is kind of what you want to do in this situation This you might want to avoid this You know she says this do that I What's a good what's a good dude? Oh, just I'm gonna be like clear the pipes before you go Some young 19 year old kids listen to being like hang in it. He's listening right now He's like give me give me some love Justin if you don't give him any love right now. You're being so big that You can't even help him right now. Yeah, I know I know it just it just would have been about this prime
Starting point is 00:28:36 Primate if it's not primate Your first time you got primate Get that thing ready How about how how about, and then you're gonna last, you know. You mean like clear the pipes? Yeah, you're clear out. You're gonna clear the pipes first up.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What, how about, how about, no means maybe. Okay. Well, now that gets touchy, because it's an individual basis from now on. Yeah, you can't, come on, I want a detail. I want to, you got to give me like an example of a do-it-a-do-it-a-don't
Starting point is 00:29:08 that you would tell yourself. Don't, you know, if a girl gives you this sign, don't do, like, you know, if she tells you it tickles, it, she probably doesn't like other people. Don't tickle. Yeah, don't tickle, don't make jokes for you about to do it. Okay, there you go, there you go.
Starting point is 00:29:22 That's one of them, I was like, that's a great one, because actually, I used to have a trick. It's a terrible idea. You used to tell me you killed a mood. Yeah. You think you're all funny and swagger. Yeah, ha, ha, ha, ha, you got this joke
Starting point is 00:29:31 and then you're trying, okay, now let's switch gears here. It's like sexy. Okay, so I have to show you a story. That doesn't work. This thing goes right with what we're talking about right now. So that why that was such a good one, okay. Oh, God, that's so bad.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I can't use names here also, it'd be hung. So I had a client such a good one, okay. Oh, God, so bad. I can't use names here, also, it would be hung. So I had a client that I trained both her and her boyfriend and they were, he was in like his early 20s. She was in her late 20s, early 30s, somewhere around there. And so he's a little bit younger and stuff. And of course, I've had them for years of training. So they share like their sexual life and everything, right? So that's just And of course I've had them for years of training so they share like their sexual
Starting point is 00:30:05 life and everything. Right? So that's just, I don't know how to tell him, but he comes out and he's like, every time he gets naked, he has to be funny. Like he swings his dick around and he makes all these, like, you're, he does it, he does it. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums.
Starting point is 00:30:34 He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums.
Starting point is 00:30:41 He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. He does it for Chinese drums. Oh You don't do the batweets. Oh, dude. Are you reenact you reenact that one scene? You know or the guy? I do I just get a legs I do I get him started broke The lab it's not funny. They don't appreciate pretty sure that doesn't get them ready to Do not play with your don't tuck your dick between no So I that reminded me that when he said that,
Starting point is 00:31:05 these are things you should not do. So he would come out and he would come out and pop it. Yes. And do before having something funny. And just like he would do puppets, like do weird, weird things, you know, just do funny stuff. And she's like, she's like, it'd be totally in the moon.
Starting point is 00:31:18 And then he'd start doing that. And it would just kill it. And it's killing sex like crazy. She's like, I need you to talk to him. So I'm like, how do I bring that up? I'm like, to next hour right like hey, you know, I needed you in my corner like a couple years ago I do for you Can I use that advice?
Starting point is 00:31:38 I mean like dude what it? Hey bro, yeah, don't do that actually don't do what? You know before you have sex, how do you even bring that up? We're gonna do some squats, but before we do, don't helicopter your cock before we have sex with your girlfriend. So how'd you bring it up? You're like, hey, what's your mood?
Starting point is 00:31:55 I told her I was like, I can't do this. Get your lady in the mood. Cause I didn't even know until, I was like, until he's comfortable enough to share that because he shares everything else with me. I don't wanna go in and probably like, hey dude, tell me kind of what you do. Who does that?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I know, right? You don't ask your buddies, if you're sharing a sex story with me, you're giving me details, I'm not asking for like, what do you do? Yeah, you look at your friend, like why are you telling me that? You wanna hear about that good stuff?
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Don't tell me about what you're doing with your dick. Whatever you do with your business to get your girl on you know that's your business So yeah, I would help purple I can make it Justin went from bashful to you See I knew I just had to get him started I knew he had some things that if he could go back and tell the younger self Actually, he would do that. Oh, I got's pretty much it. I got a good one. You know what I would do?
Starting point is 00:32:46 I would give myself advice on alcohol because I wasn't a big drinker, but the first time I drank, I think a lot of us did this the first time. You don't realize that the full impact of the alcohol isn't gonna hit you for like 20, 30 minutes. So I drink myself so sick the first time, I wish I could tell.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And then it happened like two or three other times. Yeah, two or three other times Yeah, I think I Would go back if we're and we're telling my my younger self in the sexual apartment So a lot of you don't know this but I I was saving myself So I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna have sex to I was married So I signed a purity card when I was a young kid and I made right we talked about that I was in the same boat This is this is this is by the, this is pure evidence that that shit
Starting point is 00:33:28 doesn't work. Don't make your kid sign that shit. Look at Adam now. I do hear him ruined him. I do hear him ruined him. So I actually, how about this? I owned a house before I had sex. I owned that.
Starting point is 00:33:40 So I waited for priorities. I was 21 years old, right? God. And the only real reason why, because the girl who I thought I was gonna marry, we didn't work out. And that's about when I found out we were gonna work out. We were together all through high school, off and on afterwards. And you guys didn't have sex, but you guys did other shit.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah, well, okay, I mean, I think every kid does that, right? But I would have gone back. So from like, from like 17 to, I don't know, 21. And I don't know who's just cause I was a virgin or what, but I passed up a lot of, a lot of good tale that I could get. Yeah, and my, so you'd go back in time and tell yourself, yeah, what do you do it, bro? He's in there enjoying yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, yeah, this way you could pace yourself. Yeah, don't hold out. Yeah, that's what I would probably go back and tell myself that more than even more so, I less about the sex and more about how emotionally I was tied up into that girl, that young. You know, like I just thought like the world, and I'm sure everybody has their first love.
Starting point is 00:34:38 First puppy love, you know, the first girl you fall in love with. Yeah. And you just, you know, I just thought, and every, you know, it's crazy because I watched my little brother go through it. Like, you just, I just thought, and every, you know, it's crazy because I watch my little brother go through it. Like, just, every kid goes through it. And it's like, it's almost like you can't give him advice. So it's like, that's why it would need to be me.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Future me would have to come, because my dad can't tell me, my friend can't tell me, but future me, he got me to say, listen, okay? Future me. I do it high five yourself. You know what, I know, I haven't sex with somebody. You know what, I know exactly what would be a good thing to tell yourself. You go back in time and tell you because when you're when you're a guy, this is for the guys listeners and you guys at guarantee you know what I'm talking about. When you're like 17 or 18,
Starting point is 00:35:14 first of all 17, 18, 19, 20 year old chicks are hot. We're dorks at that age. Like guys at 17, 18, 19, like you don't get you're not a stud until you're like 30. You know what I'm saying? So I would go back in time and be like, you know, tell these dudes like, listen, don't worry, you'll get the power. Just be cool right now because right now I know the chicks don't, you know, you think you're a big nerd. You just wait, give yourself 10, 15 years
Starting point is 00:35:36 and you'll write best. Min get better with age for sure. Well, and just- And just- Women will say that. We'll ask a woman next time. We'll ask a woman the next time we have a woman guest on it, that'll be a question we ask,
Starting point is 00:35:44 but I know they've done surveys on it that the maturity is very high for girls early. But that's why guys get, you got your heart broken, you know, 19 years old. And most girls physically peak around their early 20s too. Like late teens, their early 20s. Well, if they really take care of themselves, obviously happens a little later, but you know,
Starting point is 00:36:01 you're right, as far as men are concerned, like, well, when I was talking about men, the majority of men are concerned, like, no, majority, bro, a majority. Well, what I mean, what are you talking about, men, the majority of men don't peak till they're late 20s, early 30s. Even even longer than that. Like, if you take, if you take yourself at 20 and put yourself next to you now, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's a completely different story. So, so a lot of guys listening right now who are young, like, you're not even, you're not even at your full power, bro. You haven't reached your best form. You haven't hit the super say on level yet. Yeah, this way at your full power, bro. You haven't reached your best form. You haven't hit the super say on level yet. Just be patient. Get a magician hat and, you know, wait.
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