Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 088: Steroids for the Brain
Episode Date: May 29, 2015MindPump is located in the heart of Silicon Valley, the home of Google, Facebook, Apple and dozens of other companies that are household names around the world. Concentrated here are some of the most ...creative and driven people in the world and they are always looking for the mental edge. In this episode Sal, Adam & Justin talk about a trend that is sweeping Silicon Valley, the use of brain enhancing smart drugs called Nootropics...essentially "steroids" for the brain.
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Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
Welcome to Mind Pump.
This show is like a hand job for your brain.
Whoa.
Oh yeah, I'm about to, I'm about to give you a,
I'm about to give you a,
I'm about to jerk me off your head.
I'm about to give you a brain, a hand give you a I'm about to jerk me on your head I'm about to give your brain a hand job
Who you here with?
With two hands
Um, I'm here with Justin Andrews
Yeah
The great Adam Schaefer
Oh, I like him, he got
I like the great in front of my name
And the fits in your pocket
Doug Eggie
Hello
Dude, I get, I get no nickname.
What's up with that?
I'm mad at you because today you were called the handsomeist amongst the three of us again.
A fucking guest.
So you don't get anything in front of your name.
You just get just how about just the handsomeist?
See?
Just a handsomeist.
His ego, bro, we don't have room for three massive ego only two
Massive egos you're supposed to be the one in this show one of us needs to stay humble, bro. Yeah humble pie
So guys, I want to talk to you guys. I want to talk about a subject
That's I've been just fascinated over this weekend over. We know he's about to get nerdy right now
Yeah, we're gonna talk about keep it white and nerdy. We're gonna talk about some nerdy stuff.
So intelligence to me is incredibly fascinating
and I read an article about obviously, okay,
so we live in Silicon Valley
and this is, you know, not to offend anybody
who lives anywhere else,
but this is like the center of the world in terms of.
Okay.
Not to offend anybody else.
I don't want to offend you.
This is a stupid, yeah, I do love that.
Save it.
It's the center of the whole way.
It's the center of the universe.
Wait until the table.
That one.
Well, let me tell you why.
Because this is, this is.
We're pretty much better than you.
No, this is the tech, the tech revolution is here.
You have, look, how many.
How many everything you see online.
Google apples here.
It's like, yeah, a building next door. Facebook. And look, look, how many everything you see on lot. Google apples is like a building next door.
Facebook. And look, look, you guys walk around, you know
many fucking incredibly smart people were surrounded by
now. It's crazy. Like I've gone, I've flown places and I'm
not going to name any places, but it's like the first thing I
think to myself is, hmm, people are kind of stupid. You
know, not not quite as smart. I'm serious. I'm surrounded by
we're surrounded by some incredible. I know we just lost.
Yeah, I know. There goes everybody. No, that's not true because all the smart people listen to our show. This is so I'm not
offending anybody. Yeah, that's right. If you're listening, you're an exception to the room. Good save. People that don't listen to
mind pump are incredibly stupid is what I found. So, but no, we're, you know, we're surrounded by really smart people. So I'm
reading this article about how Silicon Valley executives are using supplements at a very high rate and I'm thinking supplements, you know
Like they're trying to build like
Buster yeah, that's what I'm thinking no, they're using supplements to juice up their brains
Uh-huh, they're using supplements the same way that bodybuilders and you know as fitness fanatics have been using supplements forever to try and increase our
Must in our biceps
Brains steroids for the brain. They're just I mean on this pace of productivity
Like whatever they can do to be more competitive
Give them the edge over the next company. It's like this
Insane competitive environment. It's crazy how competitive the environment is absolutely insane
Nobody works 40 hours a week around here.
No.
Everybody's looking for the edge.
How they can produce more and be more creative.
And that's a big one too is creativity.
People think work means you're just,
but a lot of these tech companies,
it's this huge brain drain where you're in there
and you're just focusing on how creative you can get.
A lot of these ideas that come out
that we have now that we take for granted
came out of someone's brain
and you gotta think about the creativity
that goes into some of that stuff.
So they're looking for the edge.
They're looking for every edge they can get.
And so I stumbled upon,
and I've heard of these, this category of supplements before,
but I really didn't pay a whole lot of attention to them
until last weekend, this weekend, where I kinda went nuts so Oh on it and you know you guys know I can get OCD
You know manic on shit
So I've been reading like and I know I know the hell out of you guys Adam in particular was irritated with me
It's our shooting like 15 texts, you know a minute
At one point I believe I was writing my I was doing tell what I said you guys can we focus on the fucking first four things that we just talked about
Yeah, I'm sorry, bro. We got our porn ads. We got to get knocked out first I was doing tell what I said you guys can we focus on the fucking first four things that we just talked about yeah
Sorry, we got our porn ads. We got to get knocked out first. Oh, yeah
Can we talk about that right now? Yeah, you know what? That's what we talk about right now. Yeah, we'll do the action a little competition. They were about to do yeah
Let's talk about that's a great. That's a great idea. Uh, we're looking to advertise. Yeah, there was this idea, right?
Justin's idea. Okay, so I was reading this credit for you see how you was gonna take you was
Dude, why do you gotta be so humble? You're such a bitch. I'm what step up and I'm sure it was your idea
Bro, my idea. Thank you, bro. I will say I will say
I'm not saying that yeah, but you hesitated to say didn't you know that you catch the hesitation listen, I'm awesome
Okay, I am awesome
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And so what they did was they wanted to expand their reach
online, basically.
And so what they're looking into was all the basic formats
for that, right?
You have like Google, you have Yahoo, you have Bing,
you have all these like paper click ways of getting
advertisement.
And all these costs like ridiculous.
I mean, you spend a dollar for every click,
somebody like clicks onto your ad.
However, there's one ad service that charges sense to the dollar, right?
And so they were looking into this and they saw that porn was really cheap.
It's such a great idea.
And not only that, like the traffic is insane.
Dude, 30% of all internet traffic goes to porn.
Yeah.
30%?
30%?
First of all, I thought that was a low number.
Jeez, you guys are a bunch of sick fox.
That's a low number considering how much porn,
you know, just me and Adam consume.
And it's so high in the third.
What a third?
Yeah, in like all these states that are like
very, very conservative.
Oh, yeah.
You know, like they have the highest porn.
Oh, that's crazy.
Oh, it's in the weirdest porn.
I would love to see that stat.
Like if you wouldn't be able to like the conservative states,
I saw it.
Yeah, there was a whole map.
It's true.
A map of it and they show like, yeah, like 60%.
You know, it's like a huge increase.
Dude, some of the highest per capita porn consumers in the world
are those hardcore, you know, Middle East states that like
like, no, no, I'm talking about in the world, in the Middle East,
they find like high consumption of porn in places where like,
you know, if you, if a woman walks around, you know,
exposing your ankles should be stoned to death.
Oh, wow, that's so dudes are just so yeah. They're so repressed.
Yeah, repressed.
Yeah.
And the porn that they look at is like the shit
that's like, what the hell are you looking at?
Like, set a max for us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, the good thing about We'll have that's what it looks like at least when I'm doing it
The thing about porn ads that really intrigued me was we can get crazy with our ads
We don't have to be we don't censor ourselves. Well, yeah, I believe I believe Justin even read a stat on this
Because I was you know still trying to be conservative a little bit when we were good. We did so here's a deal
Here's Adam being conservative
a little bit. So here's a deal. Here's Adam being conservative. Right.
On here, like believe that.
No, listen though, we're writing these at. Okay, so let's tell everybody the competition
we decided we decided we're going to do this. We're going to do these, but we're going
to have some fun with it and be a little competitive, friendly competition here on who
could come up with the most clever and creative ads that we're going to post on here.
So we're all shooting out ideas, you know, and I'm giving these ideas out that, you know, they're, you know, I'm
thinking a little edgy and stuff like that. Justin's like, no, bro, and sounds like, no,
no, those are, those are so weak, dude, those are not. It's a porn site. They need to be
more graphic. And I'm like, dude, I'm saying some pretty nasty stuff right now. Like, no,
no, then SouthSouth's giving you using some pulse. But hey, Doug, do we have, I mean, do you have access to that?
No, not right now.
Okay.
What we might do then, maybe what we'll do is I'll post them.
Well, one idea, I could just tell them.
One idea is we would have a picture of a micro penis.
For those of you guys that don't know what a micro penis, it's a horrible condition that
someone might be born with.
I can't guess what that is.
Where they have, they have like a dick that's like the size of my pinky,
which is just devastating.
But anyway, a picture of that,
and then it would say,
this guy doesn't listen to mine pump.
It's something like that.
You know, stuff like that basically.
Yeah, like we'll fill your holes.
Yeah, we'll have with information.
Long boss.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I think that's, I think that is a brilliant idea.
And I think that's gonna be fun to do this and to see where it goes
So and the point of this is you know what we should let the listeners give us ideas. Oh, yeah
I that would be amazing
No, go to our go to our Instagram page and tell us give us some ideas for a
Just can you remember do a post and do a post for the porn thing on the line pump so people get know where to list under and we'll start
Coming up with porn ad ideas. Yeah, cuz we have probably a 10 or 15. I'll tell you what, you know,
what we'll do, the three of us will make, we'll pick our favorite and we'll at least run
at least one of theirs, at least one. I mean, if they come up with better ones than us
then maybe we'll run more, but we'll guarantee we'll run at least one person. And we'll
give you credit. Yeah. All right. And we'll test it out and see which one's performing the best. Now, yeah, absolutely. Now the idea of
all this is as much as we love everybody that's listening to
us, we're always trying to grow grow and continue to
reach. Right. We want exposure. And the thing is is we're
we're definitely a growing show. We've definitely got a very
loyal base. But we're lacking exposure to really, you know,
take it to the next level and we figured
porn would be a great place to expose yourself.
Exactly.
All right, so back to your nerdism.
Can we get back on topic?
All right, guys.
So I'm going to bore everybody now.
Supplements for the brain.
I know, we just went from porn and the burger right back to the...
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Okay, so what I want you to... I want you to pretend like you're interested at them. Okay. We just went from porn porn and the burger right back to Yeah, oh
So what I want you to pretend like you're interested at them, okay?
So and by the way, I'm gonna bring you up on this because you always play and pretend like this and that the other but you have incredibly high
Intelligence for certain areas which I want to talk about I want to bring like but holes
That just doesn't show how smart he is strokes my ego
It's not now I'm listening the last ego in the world, I would want to stroke as yours.
OK.
We don't need to make that any bigger.
So, neutropics.
Neutropics are supplements that increase cognitive function.
And they work through a bunch of different ways.
Some increase blood flow to the brain,
some increase neurotransmitters, like dopamine,
others increase the way that neurons communicate with each other. I'm going to give you an example of one of the most common
neutropics that people consume on a daily basis.
Caffeine. Caffeine is a classic neutropic.
All of us have felt tired, we drank a cup of coffee, boom we're up,
we can think straight and create a lot of that.
Yeah, your brain starts
getting that charge. It does.
And so this is a very fascinating subject for me.
So I'm looking through and I'm studying different ways
to augment cognition because to be honest, look,
I love physical performance, but the thought of,
making my brain smarter is just excites the hell out of me.
I don't know about you guys.
Well, I'm not gonna lie, that sounds pretty fucking good too.
I got a boner.
Dude, have you guys- Limitless is one of my favorite movies. Oh what a grout. I was just gonna say that. What a great movie that was
Yes, it was so I came I came upon a group of molecules or drugs called racitems and
Racitems have been around for a long time the parent one is Paris attempt which was invented
I believe in the nineteen early seventies or late sixties and
Which was invented I believe in the 19 early 70s or late 60s and
Clinically proven this is the crazy part because I'm reading all these people saying oh this is supposed to do this that and the other
But I'm like I want to see the science. I want to see
actual, you know clinical benefits where they can measure
It working on somebody through different testing well the race attempts
show that they actually show that. So I bought some.
And that's why I was annoying the shit at you guys this weekend
because I took some on Saturday,
was my first time taking a chatty, Kathy.
Maybe you don't need me.
I bought some Pericitam and I took it with some Colleen
and I'll explain why in a second.
I took about 16.
So drunk with your Colleen?
Yes, no, it's Colleen. Colleen. So I'm in a second. I took about 16. So drunk with your colon? Yes, no, it's choline.
Choline.
So I took porosity, I took 1,600 milligrams,
and I took about 400 milligrams of choline.
And about 30 minutes later, I had a glass of green tea,
and then my brain was on fire.
I felt, dude, you're laughing, but I felt,
you know how caffeine gets you kind of up?
So I felt that from the caffeine from the green tea, but it was a clear,
like a very clear focus creative type of up that I was that I was feeling.
And so at one point I was doing cardio on my stationary bike.
I was texting you guys.
I was growing on another group text.
I was reading and writing notes and I was listening to a documentary in my headphones
at the same time.
So you're saying you're multitasking abilities increased.
So I can normally, I'm crazy anyway.
Normally I can get into these modes
where I get kind of hypomanic,
but it felt like it just turned that on at will.
All right, that's what I wanna do.
Because most, that's what I wanna do with this.
I want you to do, I know that this is a small case study
because it's gonna be just with me.
But I wanna do this with, this is what I wanna do.
I want you to feed me these pills,
but I don't wanna see you, I don't wanna see the bottle,
I don't wanna see, I don't wanna see
I don't wanna see you give me them for a week.
And then I want you also to give me a placebo,
and I don't wanna you to tell me which one's,
which one I get first for,
I get the placebo first, so I get the real ones first.
And I wanna feel the week, see what I say,
don't ask me, you know what I'm saying, let me, let me, let me, so you're trusting me to give you a random pill. I want to feel the week. See what I see. I say don't ask me. You know I'm saying let me let me
So you're trusting me to give you a random. I know I was just saying we are friends. You dick. It's gonna be ecstasy
I'm a sneak in some ecstasy and some
Yeah, for the placebo to be a favorite. You'd be so cool
Adam you're probably wondering why you're hugging me so much
These are some pills I picked up at a rave. This one feels great.
So let me talk a little bit about how the race attempts work because we have some nerdy
listeners.
So I know you guys get irritated with me, but we do.
We have some fucking nerdy ones.
I love you guys.
Go nerds.
Go nerds.
So it modulates the way they work is they think that they modulate certain neurotransmitters
in particular, acetylcholine transmitter and glutamate.
And those are both responsible for forming memories, both short-term and long-term memories.
And in these studies, they show that people will increase their ability to store information.
Some studies is much as 15%, which is fucking huge.
That's huge.
It also increases activation of the corpus colosum.
Do you know where that is?
Corpus colosum.
Yes.
It's the part of the brain that connects the left hemisphere and the right hemisphere. Corpus Colossum, do you know where that is? Corpus Colossum. Yes. I'm not familiar.
It's the part of the brain that connects the left hemisphere
and the right hemisphere.
So the left and right hemisphere communicate better
with each other.
It's like the bridge.
And instead, you're gonna be logical and sensitive
at the same time.
Yes, very cool.
And it sounds like a lot of hormonal problems coming after this.
I don't know, am I gonna crash?
Am I gonna get a weird after this?
It's our crying and ship. Yeah. I'm gonna have to hold you. As long after this. I don't know, am I gonna crash? Am I gonna get a weird after this? I'm gonna start crying in ship.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to hold you.
Oh, as long as your nipples don't leak.
Well, some people might consider that a positive.
It's one of those side effects
like that rolls along the bottom of the screen.
Yeah, so it also has been used in people
with Alzheimer's and dementia and it improves their function
and they're saying that it's also potentially good for the
brain because it increases what's called neural permeability.
So, your brain gets rid of waste and uptakes certain important nutrients even better.
So pretty interesting stuff.
There's even some speculation and again, they don't fully know how these things work even
though they've been around for a while, that it increases neural plasticity.
Neural plasticity is the ability of your brain to mold itself, to learn new things and
to adapt to new tasks.
And this sucks the prevention of Alzheimer's and the distributed to that.
That's why these brain games and these things are popular now, right?
Yes.
And so for myself, I've just noticed now I've been taking them now for about four days,
and so far, I just feel sharper.
My verbal skills are even better,
which to the annoyance of people around me,
I seem to be talking more.
I feel like I can remember things better.
And I'm pretty sensitive to my body,
so these are probably, it's not like this dramatic,
you know, it's not like a limitless movie,
but it's pretty awesome stuff.
So, Neutropics is an area that I'm really interested in.
I have that, that I'm curious,
because as much as we all are alike.
You are curious.
I am.
Try curious.
Well, you know, we're all different.
I would be curious. Well, you know, we're all different. I would be curious to what, okay,
the idea is it's gonna give you this,
you know, more cognitive function, right?
Is it getting you more function or clear, more function?
No, it improves cognitive function.
So everything that your brain would do,
it's supposed to make better.
Okay, now we all have different brains, right?
We all have different things that make us, what, like, we all have different brains, right? We all have different things that
make us, like, for example, like maybe you have this photographic memory, which makes
you great. You can read a text book or read an article and literally regurgitate that,
like almost verbatim to us. I can't do that. Now, does that mean if I take this, maybe
I will get closer to being able to do that or maybe I'll be able to do that or am I going to notice other things in my life that are already
something that's my strength or something that's, or is it going to develop things that
you don't know.
So this is where I'm going.
I do.
So this is actually going to take me, and there's two different things I want to touch
on.
Number one, yes, it will improve your memory.
The study's done on its show.
Retrieval of things that people have
tried to memorize is better when supplementing with a rest attempt drug. There's a lot of
them. Percitem is the one I'm trying right now. I ordered some oxyresitem, which is a
different one, which is supposed to be a little more stimulatory. In all of them anecdotally,
people say they work a little differently. But I'm glad you brought that up
because intelligence is an interesting thing to me.
We try to define intelligence through things like IQ.
When we think high intelligence,
we think of the physicist, right?
Book smart.
Book smart.
But I'm gonna use, use an example at him.
Because I'm not book smart.
I know that's why you're gonna use your book. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And one of which is social intelligence. Social intelligence is some people call charisma.
Some people say the ability to speak to a crowd,
or you work a room, or you go in front of a group,
or in front of people, and people are drawn to you,
and they want to listen to you.
And you have a very high level of social intelligence.
And I want to bring that up, because every time people think
about intelligence, for whatever reason, we pigeon up because every time people think about intelligence
for whatever reason we pigeonhole it and we think of Stephen Hawking's or the scientists
and stuff like that. And I've met people who were incredibly booksmart but were absolute
morons in other forms of intelligence like social intelligence.
Well, now you're starting to make me nerd out and get a little fascinated now because if I were to go
Yes, if I were to look at my if I were to look at my library of all the books that I've read
I would have to say at least
God at least 30% maybe 50% of them are
leaning to
Psychology emotional intelligence social awareness
ecology, emotional intelligence, social awareness, type of reads for me. And I love that shit.
I absolutely love that.
Which it just kind of naturally comes in and it just, it comes easy.
And personally, I've said this before that I think it's one of the most important
things that somebody can learn is understanding social, social awareness,
emotional intelligence, because you could be this, and this is my personal
experience in my views, of course. So I'm not trying to knock anybody who has their PhD and is incredibly
booksmart and can calculate ridiculous numbers that's up their head or has amazing photographic
memories. I think all those things, using your strengths in the right direction can be very
powerful for anybody, for myself, that I preach to the whole emotional intelligence
thing so much because I feel like that's a lot of our daily
activities with other people and being able to navigate your way
through conversation and through management and work your way up
and companies. I've always had that confidence level that I could, you know,
get any job that I wanted if you could just put me in the room with the person
that makes the decision. It doesn't even matter if it's a position even I would be
not afraid to go after a job that I know nothing about whatsoever nothing whatsoever have no
expertise to no schooling on it but if you put me in the room with the person who makes
the decision on hire me yes or no I would convince that person that I would do what it takes
to learn that craft and the things that I am strong at,
I would be able to hang with anybody else
that you have there.
And it's not exceed beyond that.
This is important.
I want to, and the reason why I want to convey this
to the listeners is because intelligence,
there's a part of it that's definitely something
you're born with, right?
You tend to be natural at certain types of intelligences.
However, you can develop them. And understanding that natural at certain types of intelligence is however you can develop them and
Understanding that it's a type of intelligence helps people understand that they can work on it
You know, so if you're socially if you don't have good social intelligence and you feel awkward and you feel whatever nervous Whatever you can develop it and get yourself that much better at it and some of us are natural at it
You know out of the types of intelligence look. I'm gonna
I'm gonna first one to say
that my spatial intelligence, my directional intelligence,
is I am at, you know, a ridiculously low level.
Like, I get lost going anywhere.
I can't even take us to the mall right now,
and I've been to the mall five million times.
I have to use my navigation on my phone
every time I leave the studio to get home.
And we've been here a trillion times.
So for me, that's something that doesn't come naturally.
Social intelligence is a great one, but there's other types of intelligence.
Yeah, well, I mean, for me, and listening to you guys and your strengths and whatnot,
it goes back to my creativity, I think, is something that really drives me
in creating new things. I always have, I really have really
good ideas. And I know that. And anytime somebody has a conversation with me and they're lost
as far as where to go, are people that have another business and then they ask me things.
I could literally sit and listen to them and their problems and then probably come up with
something.
And as far as we you know, we talk about
neutropics, you know, what might be a
neutropic for one person might be the opposite
for someone else.
Right.
So for example, we'll talk again about social intelligence.
Let's say you have someone who has high anxiety
and fear of social situations.
And you give them a classic, neutropic like caffeine.
You could make them more nervous and give them more anxiety.
And in reality, it would actually lower
their social intelligence.
It would not improve their cognitive function
for that particular situation.
There is a substance that is not a Neutropic
that might actually work with that person.
Alcohol, I know people without having a drink,
they can't go to a bar and feel comfortable.
As soon as they have a drink, they loosen up
and they start talking to people.
It actually improves their social intelligence. You know, it's pretty interesting stuff. Well, they can't go to a bar and feel comfortable. As soon as they have a drink, they loosen up and they start talking to people. And actually, improves their social intelligence.
Yeah.
You know, it's pretty interesting stuff.
Well, they're uninhibited, yeah.
That's a funny way to look at it to say that it improves social intelligence.
Nobody else would probably say it like that.
No, and it's nice.
You're like, oh, I'm drunk, so I'm loosened up or what I like to have.
But what really is going on chemically inside of your body?
That's actually what's changing.
That's funny. That's a lot of it.
Which is the reason.
That's crazy.
Yeah, and this is why this is an exercise for me.
Like for you guys, this is like in everyday occurrence,
like easy for you to kind of wrap off,
like verbally what's on your mind.
You know, for me, this is really an exercise
and it's something I feel like I improve on
and that's why.
tremendously.
You know, this is something that I've been trying to
make on a daily.
It's something that I'm trying trying to make on a daily.
It's something that I'm trying to improve, but like anything else, I know it's not one
of my stronger points.
I could put all my thoughts together so much better on paper, and that's why I tend to
write whatever content and all these other things so much better, because I have all this
time to really articulate it specifically to what I want to say.
And I'm very critical of what I say.
So even going through these podcasts, I cringe at myself, but then less as I get better.
So it's been a process for me.
And it's an exercise, just like I'm physically training, I'm also mentally training.
Okay, so I have to say, Sal, once again, you did a great job with the topic here because
I have no idea what we're heading into.
And sometimes I weary of the nerdiness we're going to go, but this is actually so cool
because I'm sitting here listening to you talk about your strength and shared what
mine was and then you mentioned Sal about being able to develop those.
And this also brings me back to one of the last podcasts
that we talked about where I referenced my buddy Mark
who gave me some of the best advice I had in my life,
which was to focus on my strengths and be great at it.
And that is before the time I started really getting
into reading and I naturally just kind of fell
into these books.
Like I said, that we're psychology, emotional,
intelligence, things like that that were around that direction.
And I just couldn't put them down.
I just found it so fascinating and I understood it so well and I wanted more.
I wanted more.
I wanted more and I continue and I'd say what?
The way that I led.
So, you know, I've been a leader since I was a young kid in every position or anything
that I've done.
I've always led people.
And, you know, I was leading at a company where I was only 20 years old and the majority of my staff below me was all older than I was and I was pretty decent naturally at it
But it wasn't until I got into my mid late 20s when I started really harnessing that and like
pushing myself as far as educating and learning in that area. Oh, shit
Like the way I led in the in my later years was so different.
And I attribute a lot of that to a lot of what I read.
And it was, like I said, it was something
that I was progressing that I already love to do.
So finding your type of intelligence,
what drives you, what sparks that brain
and feeding that, feed that piece now,
because that will take you further in life.
I truly believe in it. I am so glad you brought that up again because if you if you take a child and you take what
they're interested in or something that they like you look we mean Justin we have kids
right. Yep. So like my I'll use my son as an example that kid my son can tell you everything
about Pokemon and you'll rattle him off. He'll tell you everything about Pokemon. And you'll rattle them off.
You'll tell you every single
special feature, everything.
Yeah.
Why?
Because he likes it.
It's not something we're forcing him to learn.
And I'm just using that as an example.
When you like something, when you're natural at something,
and you focus on it, you become great.
You become amazing at it.
You know, Michael Jordan was a god at basketball. He didn't become a god at basketball because he was he was good at math
And I'm not down. I'm not you know downplaying other subjects and stuff like that all I'm saying is you know do those things
You know because you need to pass your classes or whatnot
But don't fall into the trap of you know trying to be quote unquote well-rounded
You're gonna be far more successful if you take what
you're good at or what you enjoy and go ahead and get crazy with it. Let your brain go wild.
And I prompt number one, you'll remember everything. You don't forget, shit you love.
And number two, you'll get really good at it. You'll understand concepts that other people might
not because it's something you really enjoy doing. And let's face it, the future, the future, all careers now and especially
in the future are specialized. There is a one job, except for being an elementary school
teacher that you need to be well-rounded. There's not going to be room for that anymore
because we're cutting out all middlemen, right? That's what technology is done. The greatest
decentralizer mankind has ever seen is the internet. And so specializing, no more room for good.
No, you find what you love, focus on that shit.
Don't feel guilty that you're just reading 15 books a day
on your favorite subject, which may be interior design
or whatever, you will become great at it.
And so that's one of the takeaways I could definitely say.
Oh yeah, I can't help but think that, listen, listen to all of this stuff. I one of the takeaways I could I could definitely say. Oh, yeah, I can't I can't help but think that listen
Listen to all this I mean even to it's funny because if
Justin would you know we've shared books before we read oh read this book and it's it's so great
I read I read the book and it's like this is so him
You know, right? You know, it's born from me. No, I mean I still I we still enjoy because they're normally fitness related too
So I still enjoy it
But you can tell it like feeds into his brain totally and then vice vice versa, you know, a book that I would reference or tell someone
to read. It's like, it totally feeds into my brain. So, you know, it's, it's amazing how,
you know, but here we are, we're in our 30s. You know, I'm saying that we figured this
out where, you know, God, I wish I had somebody in my teens or my early 20s that was guiding
me in this direction. You know, so if you're listening to this right now and you're not
somebody who's already actively
reading stuff that you enjoy, and that's the powerful
world, Rathers, read the shit you enjoy.
Well, that's what I'm trying to say.
It's like we pigeonhole intelligence,
and as a result, we blunt everybody who doesn't have
that stereotypical type of intelligence,
we blunt their development.
Because then they think, well, this is not something
that's smart.
Yeah, make a uniform sort of collective.
But this is what intelligence is.
Yes, instead of, yeah.
Everybody, look, it is 100%.
I'll debate this shit all day long with people.
It is 100% human nature to be hungry for knowledge.
We are the most curious animals in the world.
And we are so capable of things when we're left alone
to focus on things.
I'll give you an example.
Have you seen some of the crazy shit
that people in prison come up with to smuggle drugs?
Oh, yeah.
Or make alcohol or whatever.
These are apparently the low lives of the world, right?
Most of them don't have education.
Most of them, if they didn't IQ-tracking everybody.
And yet they're doing crazy stuff
because they're locked in the cage,
they have nothing better to do
and they're able to harness and focus their mind.
So, you know, you don't have to go to jail to do that.
Just pick what you love.
Pick what you love.
Yes, please take away.
Here's your jiggle, I go to jail.
You know, one of my favorite books,
I'm gonna talk about one of my favorite books,
is The Cosmic Serpent.
I don't know if you guys have familiar with that.
Nope.
Cosmic Serpent, Quick Synopsis, you know, anthropologists
goes to the Amazon, he drinks Ayohasca,
which has got this mind bending chemical called
dimethyl tryptamine in it.
And he sees all these hallucinations
and he tries to basically discover, like,
you know, he's trying to figure out why his hallucinations
are so similar to other peoples
if they're just a figment of his own imagination
Why are we all having the same experience?
And so I read that book and it fascinated the shit out out of me and so I ended up learning about you know
hallucinogens about reality. I started learning about the pineal gland in the brain
You know what the pineal gland does why it's you know why it releases that methyl trip to me naturally and you know
I'm boring you guys, but that my point point is, my point is because it was something
that interested me, I know more about the pineal gland and about the chemicals
that it releases like melatonin di-methyl trip to mean more than the
that definitely as much as some people who study those things. Why? Because I
fucking love it. You know, so pick what you love, learn the hell out of it.
And you'll and you you will you might find that you're actually a genius
So are we gonna do this drug thing are you gonna give these to me for a week or what you down to do that forget the placebo
I'm just gonna give them to you and then we'll see what happens
All right, so what we'll do then is we'll all take them and we'll do a podcast
I'm gonna have you triumph first see how you because I don't want to have a shitty podcast if just
See how you, because I don't want to have a shitty podcast if just in case. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're just reaccusing.
Just to do the dumb stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And by the way, race attempts increase oxygen utilization and they find athletes that
use them at high altitudes, perform better.
And there's some endurance athletes that say it helps them perform better and it increases
red blood cells, which carries oxygen.
So it might actually be a physical.
Almost like a blood doping effect.
It might actually have a physical, you Almost like a blood doping effect.
It might actually have a physical benefit.
Is it in the blood at all?
It is anti-coagulant properties.
Yes, it does, it does thin the blood a little bit.
So if you're going to have surgery,
you might want to not take them.
Or if you have issues with coagulation of blood, definitely.
That's right.
How are we doing on time, Doug?
35.
All right, we're going to end right there.
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