Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1024: Les Mills Review, How to Fix Hormone Imbalances Naturally, the Ideal Body Fat Percentage for Men & Women & MORE

Episode Date: May 4, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about natural ways to fix a hormone imbalance in fema...les, thoughts on Les Mills classes such as Grit, Bodypump, etc., the ideal body fat percentage for men and women and how The Rock can keep up his physique and yet work so hard and sleep so little. The guys recap their trip back from the Oakland Hills: Organifi Pure, MacGyver allergy masks & MORE. (4:10) Will the guys invest in a Mind Pump house? (12:08) How will the business of Mind Pump evolve in this new voice-controlled world? (15:40) CBD now in Oreos??!! What’s next?! (18:36) The explosion of the opioid epidemic: How the medical system is to blame. (22:03) Wild shrimp test positive for cocaine and other drugs, pesticides in a new study. (38:18) The value of strength training and the crisis of meaning. (40:10) Why Justin is excited for John Wick 3 and why the guys are completely SOLD on Disney. (44:25) #Quah question #1 – What are some natural ways to fix hormone imbalances in females? And how can I convince my girlfriend to go along with the fixes? (48:52) #Quah question #2 – We know your thoughts on CrossFit. What are your thoughts on Les Mills classes such as Grit, Bodypump, etc.? (56:05) #Quah question #3 – What is the ideal body fat percentage for men and women? (1:05:38) #Quah question #4 – How do you think someone like The Rock can keep up his physique, yet work so hard and sleep so little? (1:11:28) People Mentioned Mark Bell (@marksmellybell)  Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram Dwayne Johnson (@therock)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off!! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Visit Organifi for the special offer for Mind Pump Listeners! Code “mindpump” at checkout. Visit PRx Performance for the special offer for Mind Pump Listeners. Code “mindpump” at checkout. Spotify tests new voice-controlled advertisements that launch podcasts or playlists Report: Oreo-maker Mondelez considers adding CBD-infused products Cannabis and the brain Opioid Executive John Kapoor Found Guilty In Landmark Bribery Case Mind Bullets - Be Made of Something Different (Motivational) Wild shrimp test positive for cocaine and other drugs, pesticides in new study Muscular strength in male adolescents and premature death: cohort study of one million participants John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum, Trailer FDA Approves First Drug to Boost Women’s Sex Drive Mind Pump Free

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place toin. After that, we get into the fitness talk. Here's what we talked about in that first 44 minutes. We talked about our Oakland Hills get away. We just came back from the Oakland Hills and we were creating stuff and getting creative and having a good time. And I was given everybody, we were organified,
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Starting point is 00:01:02 Adam talked about his unique allergy mask. He likes smelling certain things. A little bit of a Magyver move there. Hey, it worked. We talked about wanting to buy a mind pump house. That's right. We're talking about getting a house for mind pump and outfitting it, outfitting it, mind pump style,
Starting point is 00:01:21 which includes putting a gym in the garage with PRX equipment. We love their home gym equipment. It makes too much sense. If you go to PRXPerformance.com forward slash Mind Pump and use the promo code Mind Pump, you'll get 5% off and a free Maps Prime program with purchase of $500 or more. Then we talked about Spotify's new voice ads. That's really cool. CBD in Oreo products. What? Necessary. There was an opiate lawsuit. We talked about addiction and
Starting point is 00:01:52 cratum. Wild shrimp apparently are parting their asses off in London. They've been testing. Oh, now positive for cocaine. Yeah. We talked about strength training and adolescence. A study came out showing it reduces suicide rates. And then Justin brings up the new movies coming out, John Wick 3 and Aladdin. Get the popcorn out, eh? Then we get into the fitness part of this episode. The first question was, what are some natural ways
Starting point is 00:02:19 to fix a hormone imbalance in women? So we go over our strategies. The next question, what are our thoughts on group classes like grit, body pump, etc. Adams opinion is quite strong on that part of the episode. You're going to love it. Next question, what is the ideal body fat percentage for both men and for women and the final question. How the hell can someone like the rock look so awesome? Yet works so hard and sleep so little, we unveil the rocks, secret training modalities
Starting point is 00:02:58 and nutrition and why he looks so amazing. You'll wanna listen to that rock. It's the secrets, we give them out. Also, this month is May. That means next month is summertime. Do you want to get lean for summer like everyone else? Okay, the best way to burn body fat in a short period of time. I want a book.
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Starting point is 00:04:14 What was it called again, Doug? Montclair Village, just like that. Yeah, yeah, that's it. What a great little place. Yeah, shout out to the man, shout out to the flippers, flippers burger place, I would go to that place. That place. That place. There's not a lot of places when we go somewhere And we eat and that we return the second day and come back and eat again. It was so good. Oh, dude. I had the
Starting point is 00:04:32 What was it called dog be bean bean boba? What? Be beanbop be bean what be beanbop? She's like beanbop be beanbop There's actually different spellings for it depends on where you go Yeah, it's and it was in a cast iron skillet. Is that a Japanese Korean Korean? Korean, and it had rice in it and some vegetables, and it had Korean meat in it,
Starting point is 00:04:53 and we put kimchi in it and spicy stuff. Damn, that was good. And you guys had burgers. Yeah. You guys, I could not, you guys, was like gluten free paradise for me. You must have talked about how much you like the burger five times while you're eating the burger. Yeah, that was, you guys, I was like, I'm gluten free paradise for me. You must have talked about how much you like the burger five times, like eating the burger.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah, that was, I mean, that was orgasmic. But anyway, that town is really cool because it's up in the Oakland Hills and I've never been there before. In the house we were in, you know, I'm for the listeners who don't know this, what we do oftentimes will go away to work on a project or whatever,
Starting point is 00:05:22 just foster better creativity and whatnot. And we're in this house and it's in the Oakland Hills and these houses are built, like part of them inside the hill it almost seems like right. Yeah, they carve right into the mountain. And we found out later that like we were right on a fault line. A hayward fault. Yeah. Is that safe?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Not smart. Yeah, is that what's the safety of that? Not at all. I feel like if you know, I was up there in the, like Oakland when the battle of the Bay was happening when the 89 earthquake, like I was there. And then like the next day is when earthquake happened. So, oh really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But see, that was a San Andreas fault, which is a different fault. Yeah, the Hayward fault from what I've read is like due for a massive, massive, or. It has to be. Yeah, and if your house from what I've read is like due for a massive massive Ernie has to be yeah, and if your house isn't you got to think if you're in this side of the hill wouldn't want to like Skateboard down the hill. Yeah, it's good to bog in its way down. Oh, yeah You would think though though a lot of those houses have to have taken some precaution like as far as reinforcements And I mean I could tell them that's what you think right this house was five stories I don tell them. That's what you think, right? This house was five stories.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I don't remember the last time I've been in a house, it was five stories. That's good, it's narrow though. You gotta paint the picture. It's not like it's a wide five story. It's still a narrow. It was still a big fucking house. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Five stories is five stories. I mean, it was a big place. I liked it, you know. Cool view though. You know, I can always count on Sal to have the supplements, right? He can. First thing when we wake up in the morning, like right away count on Sal to have the supplements, right? First thing when we wake up in the morning like right away on the countertack. But first of all, too, yeah, I was on the bottom the very bottom floor. Sal was on the very top floor
Starting point is 00:06:53 So I thought if I divided myself by four floors that I wouldn't hear him in the morning But it still never fails. No, he's a beast. You walk like you have concrete feet. Wait a whole month second I didn't even wake up that early Was that so I was probably me? I got I got hell early was that you that was Flintstone in around the morning? Yeah, my fucking aim and I hear like it's seven o'clock six thirty or whatever was I hear All over the place I'm like what did you really? Then I get then I get up there Yeah, I got some pounds and I see my organifi peer on the counter with my little water bottles of like that And I didn't I didn't say anything and right away you just I love him. Yeah, I got some pounds and I see my organifi peer on the counter with my little water bottles of like that. And I didn't say anything. And right away, you just, I love him. Yeah, exactly. I did. I was like, okay, okay, okay. Well, it gets us ready for the work we're about to do. You're priming your cognition. The only thing that though you
Starting point is 00:07:38 forgot was to ask him for his zirtec. Oh, I know. So how funny is that? Like, I should have known to the guy that always has everything and all the supplements I didn't even think to ask you about allergies and probably my allergies were so bad. Okay, so I did something. This is crazy, right? So again, I'm in the very bottom floor the first night that we were there The house is divided. It's so big it has two heater units, right? So there's a heater unit for the top two floors. The bottom three floors have their own heater unit and that one, the pilot light was not lit. And so the first night,
Starting point is 00:08:15 and it's down deep and it's partly inside the hill. So it's like a cellar. It's totally in the middle. Prisoner ball is 47 degrees. 47 degrees in the house on the first night Throw and I like it cold, but not that cold like it was like see your breath cold in the house And but I slept good because I was bundled up and I slept with the blankets over my head and everything So the next day my pants we call the the owner of the house comes down
Starting point is 00:08:39 Relights the pilot light for us, you know, we start we and we turn on while I had a fireplace in my room, too So I I turned on the fireplace to get a nice and warm and cozy in there. And I figured I'll just shut the fireplace off when I kind of down the bed. Well, we went to bed last night, and my room was like a fucking sauna. It was so hot, it was like shit.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's like a pizza oven. So I went from salad to like oven. Yeah, which is probably worse for me. I don't sleep good in the heat. And so I turn it off. I open up all the windows in my room, and it's freezing cold outside. So the breeze starts to cool the room off. No, it's problem is it lets like all the the pollen and shit into the room. And I just have this like allergy attack. I mean, I go through a whole roll of toy paper. I can't breathe. I'm sitting up.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I'm like, if you talk about your special allergy technique. Yeah, I did. So, well, this is how crazy you're doing. It was so bad that I had to get up. I had to wash my face, I had to wash my hands. The shirt that I had wore that day, I actually grabbed it to blow my nose and I could feel that it had stuff on it from being outside the early of the day
Starting point is 00:09:41 and it bothered me even more. And so I'm really having like an allergy attack. So you could probably hear my voice, I'm still bad. And I'm like, what do I do? I gotta stop breathing this in. It's just making it worse, but I'm in it in this room. And I come up with this idea. Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I get in my, if it's so funny, it's over. I think a cross between MacGyver and Barrett, what that goes. I was sure he just walked in your room and saw this. So I get in my bag, I still have clean clothes for the next day and stuff, and I get a fresh pair of Calvin Klein underwear, boxer briefs, naturally. And I stick my head through one leg of it,
Starting point is 00:10:19 and I wear it like those, the ski veils or whatever you call it, I forget what you call those. So is it like crotch on your nose? No, so my head I put my head I put my head through the big part the first the big part and then through one leg so it was kind of tight. Okay. And then it fit around my. So his so his nose is right next to where the like the the bench area. They were fresh. Yeah. They were dirty. if I walked in that room and saw you with your head and your underwear I would have been like it was still all out of like of course the smelter smells is on the way No, of course I didn't mean to interrupt your masturbation session
Starting point is 00:10:58 This is a thing going on right here. Yeah, yeah Bro, he's just like, Oh, it worked. Hey, it worked though. It worked because they were so fresh and clean and they hadn't been tainted by all the fucking fault. Yeah. So no taint stains.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I actually finally got to sleep. And it worked, huh? It did. Oh, I slept the whole night. I had, and tell you what, there are a couple times I had rolled over and it had slid down and I started sneezing and I had to blow my nose again And so as long as I kept it covered it would filter filter all that and I could breathe
Starting point is 00:11:34 Then I could actually kind of see it's a good thing you wear those underwear not the ones I wear you would have Those bikini briefs Not help me I don't have a whole lot of coverage Well when we were in I when we were at the Grand Canyon, Jessica and Courtney were doing laundry, and they were folding. I think Courtney was laughing at my own. Courtney was laughing hysterically. She's just trying to help fold and everything.
Starting point is 00:11:58 She's like, look, I pulled them up, she was confused for a second. Jessica, these are mailed. And I was like, yeah, then she got on Paris. You know, we should really consider investing in her property since this just becomes such a thing. Well, we've talked about this. And if you look at the market, what closed me on this was when you started talking about the how disrupting the Airbnb and the RBO,
Starting point is 00:12:24 that market is, and it was like a light bulb went off, like duh, and you look at, because that's what we did, right? We just VRBO to house. Here's a massive house that costs us less money than it would have cost to get two shit dirt, cheap hotel rooms, which is what we would have had to do. And it's cheaper to have this massive house.
Starting point is 00:12:43 That whole space is being disrupted. So I'm like, oh yeah, if we bought a property, not only would we be able to use it ourselves for stuff like this, but then if we rented it, like people would love it and we could make it. We could outfit it. Yeah, and then we could make it like a mind pump home. The thing that every house we've rented so far
Starting point is 00:13:00 more than anything I feel like is missing and because we always had the biggest challenge. I think we have a staying consistent with our lifting when we go for two or three days. Yeah. I would love to like PRX the shit out of like. So hell yeah. One of those garage is 100% if we buy a house somewhere, I like Tahoe. We've talked about that before because it's close enough.
Starting point is 00:13:19 We can use it and it's a great destination is to take the garage and turn it into like a sick-ass garage gym with the PRX, you know, the cage that folds out and the bumper plates and the bars and just make it a nice garage gym. Now Justin, they have, I mean, you know the most because you have one at your house and so that, how does the packaging work? Like, do they have like a standard, like just the bench and the squat rack package and then there's like the fucking ill-nodder You get everything in the loose package like if you want just the squat rack by itself the bare minimum Yeah bare minimum you can just get the fold out rack And it doesn't have a pull-up bar because this is like the the the one that's not quite as tall
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah, and so you can get that even without the bench. So the bench I added is like an additional you know piece to that that I wanted because I wanted that to fold out because I thought that'd be rad and it is super convenient to have you know the bench just fold out from the wall and be out of the way. So I mean I really recommend that because it's just such a fucking convenience. But yeah, you can do that and then you can also the racks and everything else. They it's like you it's like you kind of build up to these different bundles they put together. Like you can build up. So you have more options of like I want two racks of weights versus, you know, I could just do one rack of weights, you know, and you can add like a taller cage where
Starting point is 00:14:42 you have a pull-up bar and like have one that's even one of those, I forget what, it's kind of like, well, CrossFit, they have them for all those things where they do their gymnastic moves and shit. Yeah, I'm zero-eight. Yeah. I don't know what it's cause, someone that's really high.
Starting point is 00:15:01 What story was he talking about last night? He lost his head. Oh my God, what was that? I don't remember But I know it was you were explaining confusing yeah, I was confused And I understand why that that didn't come across for you well Well, there was a moment where and I know I'd been smoking so I really didn't say anything right away I was like, man am I that high right now without like confused?
Starting point is 00:15:22 I was trying to talk about like voice. Like there's this demand, this high demand for designers. To come over into the audio side of things and create all this UI experience for like audio. So that reminds me, this reminds me of an art because I brought it up that I was talking about, you know, the future of like how things are gonna be and virtually how everything's going
Starting point is 00:15:45 to be just voice activated. And Spotify right now, they're moving into this space right now where they're the first ones to do these ads. So real soon here, you're going to hear, like, your Spotify ads get hit to you and you'll be able to voice activate by. So let's say you're listening to your oh shit. So you're going to soon going to be like listening to your favorite playlist on Spotify. And like, let's say I was shopping online just the other day for a new pair of Deedis, maybe I didn't buy it. I jumped out of the check out line. And then
Starting point is 00:16:13 also, I'll be like right in the middle of my, my playlist, it'll be like, oh, you know, for 50% off, Adam, you can buy those adidas boost for whatever. So what would you like to buy? Yes. Done. Done. Not even a click. Well, So, yes. Would you like to buy? Yes. Done. Not even a click. Well, just a yes. I'm sure there's going to be a confirmed.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Oh, sure. Yes, and then confirm. Like having sex with your girl? Yes. Yes. Makes you know that. Oh, no. Yeah, you know these packages.
Starting point is 00:16:38 It's been $15 million that fucking... What the hell's going on here? Oh, man. That's great though. So, no. So, yeah, no, I'm... So, of course course, we were talking business and we're discussing that the future, what it looks like and how does mind-plum plan a roll that and how we evolve our business and then Justin starts talking about how he sees designers are now starting to move into
Starting point is 00:16:59 this voice space and he was trying to explain what they would do. And I thought it was just me who was like, clueless when I'm listening to them. Well, then you guys started to come up with some idea for like, you know, like holographic images and stuff and I'm like, what? Well, I was trying to figure out what you were explaining. That's right.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I started getting confused. Everybody was confused. And then it just turned to a clusterfuck. It was like basically what you were trying to say is what they're trying to do is to a cluster fuck. Basically, what you were trying to say is what they're trying to do is create a different experience. And with some of the stuff that's voice activated, they're gonna have things pop up that you can see as well.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Maybe holographic, maybe not. Maybe not. But the way you explained it was, with the voice activated equipment and the UI, and there's gonna be things that come up. And it's using his hands like this And he goes and to make the experience different and change I was high Too and like a ramp and like a ramp water. It would all come together with
Starting point is 00:17:54 I like call it turn I needed like you know somebody in there to really you know interpret for me Well, I was like I was fully engaged and interested in the conversation and I'm looking at Justin and I'm like I'm like and I'm and I'm at this moment. I'm going like I'm I really high and I look over at Sal and I go like Explain that again and and Sal just starts laughing I'm like what is that and then I think he's laughing at me like I was too stupid to get it And I you know went over my head. He's like no, I have no idea what he's talking about. Oh god thank god I was like just an explain and shit dude. It's still work to be done. That's a good time. What are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:18:35 I love it. Speaking of cannabis, was it Oreo cookie? Yes dude. What are they doing? They're putting CBD in some cookie. Come on dude. Why? What is CBD gonna do in there? Yeah. For what? Just getting ridiculous. What's the purpose? It's getting ridiculous. Yeah, but I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:18:51 That's the thing. I don't understand the purpose of putting others love Oreos. So we're just gonna do this. Yeah, like what is it for? It doesn't add flavor to it. You know what sucks was I actually was really, I thought it was really cool when we first started the podcast
Starting point is 00:19:04 that we, you know, early on and I don't know how many fitness or health podcasts were talking about marijuana four years ago. We were, you know, and I thought that was cool that we were kind of sharing the health benefits of CBD and what's coming out in studies and what we think the future of it looks like. And I was really excited about it back then. And now I have this like sour taste in my mouth over it's like, man, now we've bastardized it and we've put it in everything and make it seem like it's the cure all and the best thing for it. Not only that, but
Starting point is 00:19:33 they're acting as if there's no potential negatives from consuming CBD all the time. They're also assuming and acting in that way. And I'm here to tell you that there's nothing like that that exists in the world, nothing at all. Well, did I share that article with you? I remember I was asking your opinion on it. Did we share that on the podcast, right? No, were there showing some changes in liver? No, no, no, they were talking about
Starting point is 00:19:57 how it lack of blood flow to the brain. Not CBD, but cannabis. Yeah, just in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the psychoactive ones that really have that effect on the brain. But nonetheless, so it wasn't CBD. No, but still CBD does have effects in the body. And so anything that has an effect on the body is going to have, well, they're all effects.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And I hate to say side effects, but I have to use that term because when I say side effects, people understand that it's effects that are not the ones that are desired. Right, not desired. But reality side effects are just effects, they're just the same effects of a substance. And CBD, yes, and studies is safe in terms of toxicity, and it seems to be safe in a lot of different tests and stuff. But long term use of inconsistent, just kind of like, not worrying about it use. Where it's like, it's in my cookies, it's in my water.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I don't care. It's whatever. They're acting like there's no other potential effects. And I bet we're going to find that, you know, in some cases, it's probably not a good idea to have your kids eat chips, a whole CBD cookies all the time, both because it's a fucking cookie. So that's probably not why it's not good. And then second, because CBD's got some effects
Starting point is 00:21:04 on the endocannabinoid system, which does affect the development of the brain and we don't know what that's going to look like. I think they're so have hazard about it that they're going to cause a knee jerk reaction from the government to regulate the fuck out of it all of a sudden or something. You know, it just looks exactly like, I mean, protein was on this massive, like, they fortified protein and everything. And then cookie, you know, with protein, cereals with protein. Well, at least protein is making its essential macronutrient.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Right. Yeah, at least it's got that going for it. Yeah, where CBD is, like, you could go your whole life and not have CBD and be just fine and now we're infusing it at every. No, I think they're trivializing it at the same, and making it like it's, like it doesn't, like an A, like it's not, it got some important effects,
Starting point is 00:21:52 beneficial effects, which it does, and they're trivializing it like it's this, oh, hey, Stoneers, we're gonna throw some CBD and something for you. I heard you like this stuff. Yeah, exactly. So why were on the drug talk? I got something for you guys.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So a Boston jury found John Kapoor, a one time billionaire and founder chairman of drug company, guilty of racketeering conspiracy to boost sales of Finnell. Is that how I say that? A base drug and throw gasoline on the opioid crisis fire right now. So this is gonna, this is the first like executive that they're holding responsible for this massive opioidi- and I read this the other day. I did not know that you guys know that 100, would I tell you the number was 162 or something?
Starting point is 00:22:33 A day. Yeah, 160 people or so. Give or take a few. I don't remember the exact number. Every day. Die every single day from opiates. Isn't that crazy? So what they are doing, and this has been around for a long time. So I had buddies that were in pharmaceutical sales, and this was like a normal practice, and they've been trying to change this for, I don't know, at least the last decade maybe longer, and of course there's still companies that do this type of shit, which is like bribing doctors to prescribe, using cash, appealing sales reps, lavish dinners, and more, like doing things to get them
Starting point is 00:23:08 to push these drugs on their patients. This has been like a common practice for a long time. This is the first time where they're actually starting to hold a CEO or a major executive responsible for what the company is doing before. Before it would be like this, you know, you're a sales rep, you happen to be the top guy in the world and your top guy for the company and you're Selling a fuck ton of you're pushing a ton of these drugs and it's kind of like you know when says anything the doctor
Starting point is 00:23:35 They the sales rep goes and takes the doctor and says hey, you know if you get this many units done You might find a BMW in your a way to end. I'm the executive. That's so far below me. I don't see that happening. I don't know. So I can just, it's kind of... Having they just recently, I mean, they busted all those doctors for like trading prescriptions for sex.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Like that was already like something that they're like cracking down on it. Well, that's just like crazy. That's a whole another level. Yeah, I mean, exactly. But I mean, that, that is gotten to that level. This is the first time they've used something like racketeering in something like this, which was that that that that what they're created for the mafia. Yeah, and what they're saying is that he's doing illegal practices to get money, whether
Starting point is 00:24:17 it's money laundering or bribing or breaking other, you know, types of laws is what they're trying to say. First off, the current opioid epidemic, which is massive right now, and exploding. Opiate overdoses have gone through the roof. Much of that can be put down, square at the feet of pharmaceutical companies and our medical system. The way that they prescribe opiates
Starting point is 00:24:43 and the way they tell people to use them is one of the major reasons why opiate use and addiction has gone through the roof. And a lot of those opiate overdoses are people who are prescribed opiates and they're using them according to the way they're supposed to use them. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:01 They're not even necessarily abused them. They're not abusing them, yeah. They're just staying on top of ahead of their pain. If you say, if you've listened to the podcast for a long time, you know my story because I know I've shared it at least two or three times on here, but that's exactly how I fell into becoming addicted to them. And I had no idea. I knew nothing like about it really.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Like I was really naive to opiates and how it interacted with the body. It was just something I never, as a trainer, I never came across a time where I had to research it or look into it. I tear my ACL and my MCL. I go and I have surgery. I'm in some of the most pain I've ever been in my life. Of course, they prescribe me, vicar, in.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I start taking the vicar, in. I'm reading the back of the bottle and it says take one every four hours. So when I first start taking them, I try and not take them. I'm reading the back of the bottle and it says take one every four hours. So when I first start taking them, I try and not take them. I take them when the pain gets bad. And sometimes that's five hours, six hours, sometimes it's four hours, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And I'm kind of falling that. I come back to my doctor and I'm like, I'm in a lot of pain still. Okay, well, here's a double strength one. Right, so then I'm now taking the double, the norcos, the double strength one. So I'm doing that same type of thing. I'm the same things happening again, where I'm trying not toco's, the double strength one. So I'm doing that same type of thing, the same things happening again where I'm trying
Starting point is 00:26:07 not to really take it very much, but I'm finding that I'm still on pain. And the doctor's like, well, listen, tell me how you're taking it. And I tell, well, I take it in the morning, like when I wake up, because I'm really stiff in the morning and it hurts from when I sleep. And then, you know, normally around midday or so, I start to feel the pain again and so I take another one. And they're like, oh, no, no you you want to stay ahead of the pain and even if it says every four and you're noticing that you're getting pain by four, start taking it like every three hours you know
Starting point is 00:26:33 or take it before the pain sets in and be consistent with it. I'm like okay so that green lighted me to like justify throwing them in my mouth one every like three to four hours. Is theological dependence. Yeah so the next thing thing you know, I'm at about four or so. And again, noticing that like, oh, I need them more often or doubling or taking one and a half now. Before I know it, I'm like three months into this thing and I've ramped up to, I think it was somewhere between seven and nine on some days
Starting point is 00:26:59 of these Norco strength, double strength, Vicodin. And not knowing anything about addiction with these yet. Like, I'm really naive to it. I just, because I don't think that, because I'm being prescribed to do this, I'm just really kind of getting into taking them. It's not a drug, it's not a drug dealer, it's your doctor. Yeah, it's my, and so I'm not,
Starting point is 00:27:16 and you're doing what they told you. Right, and so, and now I go through my rehab process, pain has pretty much gone away for me, and I just cut cold turkey. I just stop. And I go through these unbelievable flu-like symptoms. And I'm certain that I have the flu. And I'm like, oh my god, this miserable flu shakes and cold sweats. And I can't sleep and headaches. And my stomach feels uneasy. The shit's like everything. I feel like I got hit with like the bird flu. It feels uneasy, the shit, it's like everything. I feel like I got hit with the bird flu.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And I am miserable all night long. I get up in the next morning and I'm like, oh my God, all I want to do is sleep. And I'm like, well, you know, the bike can have made me sleepy. Like, I'll take one. I still had some left in my prescription. And so I take one and I'll never forget this moment.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I took that fucker and within 30 minutes to an hour, I didn't just feel better, like all my flu symptoms when I felt energized, like flu symptoms went all the way and I felt good and I was like, holy shit. And then I got online, right away, get online. I like started researching opiates and opiate addiction and how it works with the body and how it pairs with the receptors
Starting point is 00:28:24 and then you get adjusted that, then you have to take more. I'm like, oh my God, I'm addicted to it. My body is physiologically addicted to these pills that I had no clue that I was. Super powerful. Any man. Here's what's crazy. So doctors have to go through,
Starting point is 00:28:41 kind of like personal trainers, you know, you get a certification in order to keep your certification active, you have to go through continued of like personal trainers. You know you get a certification, in order to keep your certification active, you have to go through continued education courses. So doctors have to do something kind of similar. It's different, but it's kind of similar where they have to take certain amount of courses in order to be able to continue practicing.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And what these pharmaceutical companies do is they, because they have a lot of money, and they make a lot of money. They invest in interest there. They conduct many of these courses and get them approved to be part of the continued education. So now you're a doctor, you have to take so many courses. One of the courses you take is pain management
Starting point is 00:29:17 and guess what they teach you in there? Stay ahead of the pain. So now doctors are learning that the appropriate way to take an opiate is to stay ahead of the pain because in our studies we showed that when patients do it that way, they suffer the least amount of pain, which is true. But they don't show the other side of it, which is this is a very, very high likelihood where you're going to develop a physiological dependency and the adaptation process ramps
Starting point is 00:29:40 up. And so these doctors are even good, you know, good doctors. And a lot of doctors are good. I trained a lot of doctors. Every single one of them I trained incredible integrity, wonderful, wonderful people who truly cared about their patients. Yeah, this is engineered in that process.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And I'm saying that because when I first, before I started training doctors, I had kind of this really bad taste in my mouth of Western medicine, partially because of my own, when my health issues came up, I had to solve them myself and they provided no value. And because you hear a lot of horror stories and we're also in the fitness and
Starting point is 00:30:09 health space, right? When I started training these doctors, I was like, wow, these people really care about people and this and that. And you start to learn that they take these courses and this is just what they're taught and they're taught in very convincing ways. Like I said, if you're a doctor, imagine you're a doctor, you're taking this course on pain management. Your number one complaint you get from your patients
Starting point is 00:30:29 is pain, pain, pain, hurts, hurts, hurts. You go and they're like, oh, we did this study and we found that if people take this right before the other one wears off, none of them have pain, they can get back to work, they can satisfaction's up in the, and you leave and you're like, oh, cool, okay, this is what I'm gonna do.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So you start prescribing it this way, and this is, the opiate epidemic can be late, like I said, you could put that square at the feet of our medical system, and what's happening with a lot of these people is they're going the route you did at them, and then a lot of them who aren't, as maybe solid as you are, who maybe don't have a good life, maybe they have a terrible life,
Starting point is 00:31:06 maybe bad stuff's going on, they're depressed. Then they stay on them, then they transfer to the stronger shit, which is a street drug. So many of the people who are addicted to straight up injectable heroin started out doing the pills. No, not many, I read a stat one time, it's like most. A lot. It's rare that somebody goes like,
Starting point is 00:31:26 Hey, I want to stick a needle a heroin in me. You know, that doesn't happen. What happens is you go I start off with things like Vyketin and Perkiset and that's not strong enough. So then I go to things like Norcos. Then Norcos is no longer strong enough Then you go to things like oxy-contains and then you go to like this the super strength oxy-contains Which is basically heroin and a pill, it's time released throughout the day. And then you start doing multiple of that, and then you start to go, holy shit, I'm taking 10 of these oxy-contains a day.
Starting point is 00:31:54 It's bad for my liver. Yeah, it's expensive. Yeah, and then you go, you actually, then you're actually such a drug addict that you do the research and go, oh wow, it actually is healthier for me to inject it straight into my brain. It starts to rationalize.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, you start to rationalize that's injecting it straight into your bloodstream is cheaper and healthier for you than taking all these fucking strong pills, and that's exactly how it happens. Now, isn't, isn't cratum a valid alternative in terms of like, you know, somebody who's trying to like, wean themselves down off of opiates. So I've done, I've not an expert by any stretch of the imagination on the subject, but I've done a fair amount of reading and research.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I found it very fascinating because I remember where I read it first, but I read this article about how the government was trying to regulate, they're trying to make a schedule one. And Erb, you know, a plant called Cratum, which had become banned in its country of origin, which I believe is in Southeast Asia. Which is Malaysia.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah, because they had become a problem and so they had banned it over there and then it started coming over here and people were saying, don't ban it. It's helped me with my hair on addiction this and that. So I started reading about it and it's not an opiate, but it does operate on the same system, the opiate system.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And it does have its own withdrawal and whatnot. But from what I've read, it's not as bad. However, the people selling it do the same thing that the fucking people that sell things like, Psalms and other shit do, as they only tell you the good stuff, they don't tell you that there's, in fact, what you'll read a lot of these people
Starting point is 00:33:29 when they sell the stuff is there's no side effects, it's not addictive property, it's perfectly fine. It's because it's an herb. Yeah, it's not. There's no big deal. You'll see this all that. That's not true, you still have withdrawal. It's maybe not as harsh as heroin,
Starting point is 00:33:41 at least from what up from the side that I read. I've got a decent amount of experience with it now. I wish, I'll tell you this, what I wish, I wish I had really understood it to the level that I understand it now when I was going through all that viking and stuff. I didn't even know what cratum was way back when. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And now what I know about cratum and how, and I've used it enough times to know like how it makes me feel, it would have made the process of winging myself. In fact, what I actually had turned on a family friend of mine on using it to help him. Like he had came to me and told me that he had been, you know, addicted to using the painkillers and he'd heard me share the story on the podcast and asked my, for, for my advice. And I was able to give him that advice
Starting point is 00:34:26 of utilizing cratum and it was like life changing for him. You know, he was up to like eating six to eight pills a day and the cratum helped him wing off really nicely. It's just, it's like a... Well, this is the way I look at it. Like, we use it as a don't, right? Yes, we use using an example at him. You, cratater or not,
Starting point is 00:34:45 you would have stopped using them. That's just you. Right. People who are gonna be addicted to something will be addicted to something if they don't solve the root cause of it. Right, and so what I would share with everybody, because like I said,
Starting point is 00:34:57 I've got a decent amount of experience now, even with Crater. It, here's the things that make it less addictive, is because it is so much weaker, you know, just for me to get the same feeling that I would get from one vikin in, I would have to take like eight, eight cratum pills. So if somebody like me who got worked his way all the way up to seven vikin in, I'd be taking 40 pills in one sitting.
Starting point is 00:35:22 You're not, and they're like horse pill, they're big, the powder. It's like, it's all it is a leaf that's grounded up. So the amount that you would have to consume to give you that same kind of feeling is really high. But this saying, like you're saying, Sal, that, you know, if you're someone, and I've done this before, oh, wow, I took four of these cradumpills
Starting point is 00:35:37 and I feel that the similar type of feeling because it works with the same receptors. So you get that same similar feeling, just not as strong. But if I do that every single day for, let's say, a week or so, by the end of that week, now I need six to feel that same way. And then I need eight, and then you need like 12. And then before long, you're doing the same thing that you're doing Viking.
Starting point is 00:35:55 It's just a lot less strong. And so you got to take more of them. But I do notice that, and because I had, I've done it where I've taken credit for a couple of weeks in a row consistently, and then I've completely stopped doing it. And there doesn't seem to be the same withdrawal type of feelings that I went through when I was with a vikin in. And you know, Mark Bell sent me over a couple of his, but he's, he's, which I find interesting
Starting point is 00:36:21 that he went this route. And I had a big discussion with him about how intrigued I was by Crade him for these reasons for somebody who would battle with bycondition, but he's marketing it as he calls it a mind bullet and he markets it like a, almost like a new topic. Well, that's because if he says it's for pain, he can do that. Yeah, he can't do that. So, I'm kind of on the fence,
Starting point is 00:36:45 like as far as marketing to people like that, as far as that, being that, I understand why he has to do that, for legality reasons, because where I see the most value is somebody who deals with pain, chronic pain, and doesn't want to take, vicar in that's really, really addictive,
Starting point is 00:37:01 and you can use a more natural source of that, but to like your point, Sal, it still is pairing with receptors. Your body will still down regulate that. It will need more if you continue. If you do it consistently. And you'll have withdrawal. If you go high enough and use it long enough,
Starting point is 00:37:17 you're gonna have, sure, you're gonna have opiate withdrawals. It's the way that they sell it really irritates me. I hate the way that they, and they do this with a lot of different things. And the supplement spaces can be just as fucking bad as the big, pharma space with that kind of stuff. The other thing too with Crate, and that you have to be careful, is there's been reports of people having toxicity issues because it's a imported herb that, and like, we know with supplements, oftentimes it's not clean, there's heavy metals in it.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Right, right, it's not regulated. Yeah, and so it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like you know if you get a vikin' and pill that's pharma, all those in there is, yeah. Right. Some, some of these people, there's been people in the hospitalized and they'll, they'll check what they were taking and they're like, oh shit, this was fucking toxic.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yeah. Well, I find it would probably be another one of those drugs or supplements that would be very easy to drug a supplement that would be very easy to pickse dust. I mean, it'd be really easy to, you know, because it's so popular right now, they sell like crazy. It's a miracle. Of course they sell like crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah. It's fucking imagine if the bike in it was a supplement, right? A weaker version of it. Right. Right. Of course it's going to sell like right. Speaking of drugs, they did this huge study where they analyzed a bunch of shrimp. Yeah, I saw you posted that. What the hell was that all about? they did this huge study where they analyzed a bunch of shrimp. Yeah, I saw you.
Starting point is 00:38:26 You posted that. What the hell was that all about? It made big news because it was wild shrimp, and I'm going to read this here for you. So in England, scientists in England were surprised to find that fresh water shrimp from more than a dozen sites tested positive for cocaine and other chemical substances. How shitty is that? So where was this? Like what water do they get through?
Starting point is 00:38:50 Yeah, they took samples. No, no, no, it's a cosomami. They took samples from 15 different river sites across the over 1400 square mile Suffolk County, which is about two hours, two hours northeast of London. So they took them from the rivers there and they found cocaine in these. I don't understand. How's this possible? Well, obviously the waters filthy must be tainted. I don't know. Maybe some drug, maybe some drug lords. Yes, lots of lords. Yeah, like just offloaded a bunch of...
Starting point is 00:39:19 Well, aren't shrimp... Aren't shrimp bottom feeders? Yeah, like muscles and don't they do that? I think they're bottomers. Yeah, like muscles and don't they do that don't they? I think they're I think they're a bottom feeder. Yeah, so This shrimp is good. So that's why they move so erratic. Well, that's kind of crazy They did it in 12 different locations and all of them had found I mean how much cocaine is getting spilled in the water. Yeah, well, I don't know how much they're testing for if it's like a microscopic amount
Starting point is 00:39:43 There was another study a long time ago where they tested a hundred dollar bills or something like that and they found like the majority of them I really can't residue out of. Yeah, I remember that. That's hilarious. And then also the yeah like a fecal matter like was another part. Yeah, there's poop and cocaine and dirty is on your money is dirty. Yeah, it's been it's been in places. Yeah, it's been around. It's been in noses is dirty. Yeah, it's been, it's been in places. It's just say that. It's been around.
Starting point is 00:40:05 It's been in noses and butts. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. hilarious. Anyway, another, this is another study, but this is a kind of interesting one. So they did a strength training study on adolescence.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And this was a long-term observational study done over about 12 years. And they found that now obvious, adolescence who had more strength, obviously lower instances of all cause mortality, but check this out. So when you're talking about adolescents, this is a young age, right?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Adolescence is, what is that age group between? 13, is that what it is? Yeah, and like 20, I don't know. It's 16. Yeah, it's not like that's young, right? One of the number one causes of death among adolescents is either accident or suicide.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Like very rarely do they die of things like heart attack and cancer and stuff like that, right? So what they found was adolescents that had more strength who were physically stronger, 20 to 30% lower rate of suicide. Wow. Oh, I believe that's kind of like an obvious study for us. It is, right?
Starting point is 00:41:06 But what a great selling point for getting your kids to move and lift weights and feel better. And of course, this goes right along lines with other studies that have shown that. Well, I've seen the studies of, I think it was seven times more likely to be on, to have anxiety and be on ADD medication. If you don't, if you don't, strength training or do things like that. If you're on a lot of electronic devices. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:32 yeah, yeah. And it goes along the lines with other studies that show that, you know, resistance training is as effective as or more effective as antidepressants for, you know, low to moderate levels of chronic depression. Yeah, it's like we all inherently know the value of strength training, but when you hear statistics like that, I think a lot of parents will perk up and be like, oh, anything they can do to help bulletproof their kid from all these potential issues down the road,
Starting point is 00:41:59 they're gonna respond. Well, we're in a weird, we're kind of seeing the, some people are calling it a crisis of meaning right now where, and that may be that may be the root. I don't know if I agree 100% yet just because we don't know exactly what's going on, but what we do see is for the first time, in a long time, the younger generation is not going to live longer than the older generation. They're not going to surpass the lifespan.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And it's not because they're health is poor necessarily. It's because suicide and opiate addictions have exploded. So when you factor those in, the average lifespan, they're not going to, and so a lot of researchers are thinking we're in a crisis of meaning. Like, here's all these, that makes sense. Because they go hand in hand, right? Yeah. Like, opiate addiction, overdose, people who are addicted to drugs to the point where they kill themselves, many times.
Starting point is 00:42:52 They want to escape. They want to escape, right? And I know the drug plays a role, but we know that really, there's other factors that really play the role. Because the reality is such a big amount of Americans have tried drugs or outdrink alcohol, and a large, large percentage didn't become alcoholics or drug addicts
Starting point is 00:43:10 and kill themselves, the ones that do it's because they have other issues. So that's going up and suicide is going up. Those both I believe are connected. So there seems to be some kind of crisis of meaning or whatever that's going on. And so I think it's all tied to that. I think it's tied to the distractability,
Starting point is 00:43:27 the lack of activity, which makes you feel like shit. I think we're in a world now where we get everything that we want and yet we're still kind of like sad and we can't figure out the fuck's going on. So that's kind of a crisis. And sometimes I wonder if we're being like chicken little and the sky is falling and it's only going to be It's going to be a natural progression. We'll evolve around it. We'll be just fine
Starting point is 00:43:49 And we'll we're smart we'll figure it out or will there be like this major backlash or fucking aha moment for a lot of people when we Because we just haven't and I know I've said it many times We have to learn right and this is how we learn the hard way right we always learn this way I mean I go through periods of trying to sort it out, especially when there's like new developing and emerging markets out there and like new technology that's kind of taking over. So we're trying to manage. Yeah, it takes a few generations sometimes, right?
Starting point is 00:44:16 After we see like a few generations, like, okay, that wasn't a good idea. Maybe we shouldn't all smoke cigarettes all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This isn't great transition from that. But like, I'm really excited. There the time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, dude, this isn't a great transition from that, but I'm really excited. There's a few movies out over the summer, like besides endgame. I know you already saw endgame,
Starting point is 00:44:33 so don't spoil it for all the rest of us, but... And Man goes up his butt and then... So he's enlarges and blows him up. Actually, I saw him and he knows that was hilarious. He's like, whoa! But John Wick, I brought this up a long time ago, dude, there's a third one coming out to complete the Trilly.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I haven't seen it yet. I got to watch the first two. Okay, so there, I guess there's like some sneak trailer that came out and like everybody that saw it is like going crazy over it because of the action. So you know how the, when the Matrix came out, how like revolutionary a lot of the action scenes were. Oh, yeah, the pause with the camera and it went around them.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And so it was all, yeah. So apparently like they've put a lot of effort in the orchestration of like all these different like fight scenes and action. And really? Yeah, so it's like, it's like next level I guess. I'm like, yes, dude, when's the last time you saw an action movie, you were like,
Starting point is 00:45:23 wholely shit, I've never seen that before Yeah, I saw I've never seen John Wick one or two but I so really no I have it But I want I'm gonna love it dude. You know I'm gonna watch it There was a video on it was a YouTube clip that showed one of his fights and it was Maming all the moves that they were doing when they were fighting. But most kung fu or fighting films don't involve really good jujitsu and grappling moves. It's always the striking arts. This one in this clip, I saw John Wick do you like.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Arm bars and judo throws and all these, so I was really interested in their shirts and their coats and everything like with these judo tosses and stuff. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, and then my son wants to watch it too, so we're gonna check it out together. Yeah, so there's that, but then there's like, okay, so there's Aladdin with Will Smith
Starting point is 00:46:11 as the fucking genie. Yeah. Like, I don't know about that. Bro, I mean Robin Williams, it's such a good guy. Yeah, that's a tough one to fill. Yeah, but this is live action, it's not cartoon. Yeah, it is live action. Yeah, I think it'll do a good-
Starting point is 00:46:23 They'll probably pull it off. I don't know. Will Smith, but Disney killed it. I, it's not cartoon. Yeah, it is live action. Yeah, I think it'll do good. They'll probably pull it off. I don't know. He's a little smith, but Disney kills it. I think it's weird. Did you guys, so you guys didn't watch the live action Disney one of Beauty and the Beast and then the other one? They did a good job. No, but I did watch Dumb O.
Starting point is 00:46:35 No, I saw the beauty of this one. It was good. Wasn't it good? Yeah, it was good. Dumb O was the one I liked the least, but it's always good. Disney's always good. They do such a good job of picture and cinematography and story and audio and the music,
Starting point is 00:46:49 like everything about it. It's an experience. When you watch a Disney movie, like it or love it or hate it, like it's an experience. They do a really good job of making an experience whenever I watch it. I feel like they've really resurrected
Starting point is 00:47:02 their status and their brand. Like what their storytelling has gone. They figured out that what was missing from everything, all this content out there was like the storytelling and like the really good writing and they've really brought it back to that and that's really paid off. This is why I'm betting on them so hard.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I really think that if there's like, I bought more shares like that. If there's anybody who's gonna make a run at Netflix, I really think it's gonna be Disney, man. You know which one's gonna crush? Because obviously endgame just broke massive records, right? So that's good for D'Hill, everything. They have the Lion King is gonna come out.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I saw it. That is going to mark my words below the doors off of every other kid film, cartoon, whatever. I think Beyoncé's in that one too. She. Yeah, that'll do well. So what happens? And remember what we were talking about the other day,
Starting point is 00:47:50 like, you know, and a lot of people think, oh, I don't know, they can take Netflix down, but what happens when Disney all of a sudden decides when they have built up enough people watching their streaming service, or maybe this is how they get a lot of people, is they skip the theater process. And they start releasing their
Starting point is 00:48:05 blockbuster film straight streaming. At some point, and it's 50 dollars. It's 50 dollars. It's like crazy expensive, but on that day you get to watch it for X amount. And I'm just throwing random things and speculating, but I mean, why wouldn't that be a cut at some point that'll happen? Right, a strategy for them to do that. Look out.
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Starting point is 00:49:04 Okay, so I'll start by answering the second one. You can't, so she's gonna have to decide to do this herself. So, and I know what this makes me think of is like, he's probably getting an argument or whatever with her, and he's like, God, it's her hormones. I know what, if she just fixes her hormones, it will make her. So, no, yeah, she's gonna have to do this on her own,
Starting point is 00:49:22 because what people need to understand about hormones is this. Yes, a lot of the, many times the way you feel is a result of your hormones, but your hormones reflect your overall health. So I think a lot of times people look at the hormone problems and think if I just fix the hormones, everything's gonna be amazing, I'm gonna feel great. No, there's a reason why they're, yeah, there's gonna be amazing and it'll feel great. No, there's a reason why they're in balance.
Starting point is 00:49:48 They're inversely related. Fix your hormones, hormones will be good, you get fucked up sleep and then your hormones, that's so good no more. Yeah, yeah, you mean they're directly related? Yeah, yeah. So they reflect your health. So the best way to balance your hormones for anybody,
Starting point is 00:50:02 this is both for men and for women, is to really take care of your health and look at the hierarchy of things in terms of the importance to your health. So like number one, I'd say, is sleep. Number one is gonna be sleep. Sleep immediately affects your hormones. You can literally, as a man, for example,
Starting point is 00:50:22 have healthy testosterone levels and just have one really, really terrible night of sleep and they can test your testosterone the next day and it'll be impacted, it'll be impacted, right? And testosterone is a good example because that is reacts so quickly to you know what's happening in your life or whatever. Activity is another one.
Starting point is 00:50:42 She needs to exercise appropriately. Strength training. Strength training is the best. It needs to exercise appropriately. Strength training. Strength training is the best. It's gotta be the best. And one of the mistakes I see a lot of people make in particular women is not that they're not exercising, it's that they're exercising too much. Right, not the group X class, not Zumba,
Starting point is 00:50:59 not CrossFit, not some high, no, they need to do straight sets, strength training, that will. Proper ass periods. Yes. Yup, strength training, that will. Proper rest periods. Yes. Yep, yep. So good activity. And then of course, a good diet.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And what I mean by good diet, if you want to balance hormones out, now we're not going to be talking about gut health here. So let's pretend that she's got decent gut health. Because if she has bad gut health, you got to fix that. But if she has okay gut health, then it's a balanced diet. It's not a restricted diet, it's not a keto diet, it's not where you're cutting out your carbs.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Not a vegan. It's definitely not a super low fat diet, definitely not, because you need fat for hormones and whatnot. And so everything has to be balanced because sometimes I've also worked with women who are like, oh, my hormones are, I got things tested in my thyroid is low, whatever. And I look at their diet and who are like, oh, my hormones are, I got things tested
Starting point is 00:51:45 in my thyroid is low, whatever. And I look at their diet and I'm like, wow, you eat under 50 grams of carbs a day. Why did you do that? Oh, because I heard keto is, it's like, okay, no. Going too low and anything for too long tends to cause problems or changes in hormones. And if you combine that with other issues,
Starting point is 00:52:04 like lack of sleep and your workout program is not great or whatever, then why don't we balance those things out? Let's bring the carbs back in a little bit and see what happens. So just you got to get healthy because then your hormones reflect your your good health. What happens with a lot of people, especially in modern societies, is we go to the doctor and we get tested and they say, okay, these hormones are off, or you have these symptoms that we think are related to hormones, here's how we fix it. Take hormones. Yeah, we're gonna give you birth control. This happens a lot to women.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Like women will have severe PMS symptoms. For example, and doctors will say, oh, here's some, let's put you on birth control, that'll take care of it. And what you're essentially doing is you're blending the symptom of a deeper root. So to give you another analogy, it would be like giving pain killers to somebody
Starting point is 00:53:00 who's banging their head against the wall so that they don't feel a pain from their head without stopping them from banging their head against the wall so that they don't feel a pain from their head, without stopping them from banging their head against the wall. So that's what exogenous hormones do. This is another reason why I think athletes who are on testosterone replacement therapy are still considered at an advantage to their competitors, even though their hormone levels are the same, because when you're on exogenous hormones, you don't get those natural fluctuations that you get when you're lack of sleep.
Starting point is 00:53:31 testosterone's always high. Or it's always the same, right? So you have an advantage, you get away with more stuff. So 100%, I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't convince her to work on her hormones. I would look at overall health, how's your stool, how's your skin? Let's look at your sleep, let would look at overall health, how's your stool, how's your skin, let's look at your sleep, let's look at your activity,
Starting point is 00:53:48 maybe you're doing too much with your activity, let's reduce it back down, lift weights two or three days a week, get good sunshine during the daytime, make sure you turn down the lights late at night so you get good sleep, look at your diet, all those things, and then give it time because it usually takes a few months of doing that before the hormones start to come back,
Starting point is 00:54:07 and then her body decides it wants to be fertile, it wants to be healthy. You also have to say that she may actually not want to have sex with you, because that has nothing to do with her hormones. She just may not want to have sex with you. Did you feel like that's in this question, right? It's like, it's like you're... There's some kind of booster.
Starting point is 00:54:23 You're right, there's like, you're, there's like, your boys, I gotta ask these my moves, my eyes getting sex, but's like, it's like, you're, some kind of booster. You're right. There's like, you're, there's like, your boy's like, I got to ask these my boys, my, I'm getting sex, but once every other week right now, I'm going to, bro, find you that. Uh, yeah, I would happily share it. Something's wrong with her hormones. She doesn't want to have sex,
Starting point is 00:54:35 but I'm like, could, she doesn't agree with me all time. Could be, could be you, bro. And I want to be clear, I'm not, I'm not a hormone, but none of us are a hormone specialist. So if there really is a real issue, aside from the fact that hormones are just reflecting that, her stress is too high or whatever,
Starting point is 00:54:51 she would need to go to a doctor. You know, along those lines, they came out, there's a prescription pill for women who have chronically low sex drive. You're gonna go away. Yes, there is. Like a viagra for chicks. It's kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's kind of like that. It's kind of like that But it's not but it's not to increase blood flow to the to their genitals like for a man It literally makes them want more sex. How does that work? It sounds like Magical unicorn shit. No, no, no, no, you could sprinkle this in her soup. Yeah, or her cereal in the morning sprinkle this in her soup. Yeah. Or her cereal in the morning. No, no. I'll be so fucked up. Let's try to help a guy out here. No, it's called Adi. Adi. I can't enough from pronouncing it right. The the the technical name for the drug is Phil Banserin. And it's Phil Banserin. I got to look this up because I know it's works on a particular receptor. Yeah, don't
Starting point is 00:55:44 sprinkle that in her cereal until, till Sal figures this out. By the way, the person that answered the question is a woman. Oh, it's a girlfriend. Yes. Well, maybe she, well, then maybe she's not into you. Yeah. You know, same answering this all wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Same rule applies. Yeah. You know, I'm saying maybe it's not, maybe it's not her hormones. So maybe she just wants to help. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. All right. Next she just wants to help. Damn. All right, next question is Kim Stagrum 01. We know your thoughts on CrossFit,
Starting point is 00:56:11 what are your thoughts on less mills classes, such as grit, body pump, et cetera? Less mills is still a thing, huh? That mill. Yeah, the pump. Yeah, so they mills, they make these group classes and then they sell them to big box gyms, right? And they sell the programming, they sell the branding.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I remember when Body Pump first hit, 24-hour fitness. Were you guys there when it first hit, or was that before you guys were there? Yeah, I was in golds when it really kind of took off. Yeah, I remember when it first hit and it fucking, this is like before Zumba, right? It blew up and it was like, weight training group classes in reality, it was just,
Starting point is 00:56:46 like any other cardio class or whatever, even weights really fast. Yeah, I don't, what do you, what do you thought some group classes at them? We're gonna defer to Adam. Well, it's a bit, wow. When I talk about group classes, and how terrible I think they are,
Starting point is 00:57:03 these are like the cream of the crop. I mean, these are the worst, the worst. These are the cream of the crap. Yeah. These are like the cream of the crop. I mean, these are the worst, the worst. These are the cream of the crap. Yeah, the cream of the crap right here. I mean, and I'm, and no offense to the group ex instructor that's listening that's not like the overgeneralization that I'm gonna make, but for the most part, most of these instructors that are teaching this class
Starting point is 00:57:24 know very little about fitness, very little about nutrition, very little about exercise and strength training. They go through a weekend at best course, maybe a week long course, and get certified to teach these courses. They have high energy and they're good on a microphone, and that's what justifies them being now an instructor
Starting point is 00:57:44 or a trainer, and it's what justifies them being now an instructor or a trainer, and it's basically just cardio in a class, and they make it fun and exciting, and it's cool, but they're crap. They're crap. Well, the body pump classes used to annoy the hell out of me because they were supposed to be resistance training. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And I would watch the form in the classes, and they were just fucking atrocious, and then I'd look at the instructors forum and go Oh, that's why they don't know how to do it. 50 deadlift reps. I remember watching one time and then they'd get into step-ups right immediately after that with no rest breaks or I mean it's it's cringe right. It's all crap I mean the thing I think the most beneficial group class I've ever seen inside like a 24 or gold is like a yoga class Yeah, you know saying like it's not,
Starting point is 00:58:25 it's pretty, I mean, those can be terrible too. You need to have a great answer. Right, right. But I mean, it's a little bit harder to fuck up yoga. Like you can really, and that's, and again, not trying to insult a really good yoga instructor is like, I'm actually out of it.
Starting point is 00:58:36 It could be really chump. Oh, they can, you can fuck up yoga. Yeah, you can. I'm not saying you can't, but it's really easy to fuck up a body pump class, you know? Or really easy to make a Zoom class ridiculous. Like it's, well, fuck up a body pump class, you know, or really easy to make a zoomed class ridiculous. Like it's, well, the benefits that I see from these, from group classes are, are benefits?
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah, here's the benefits. If you're somebody that just needs to increase activity and you wanna have fun doing it and you just wanna go move more, then go do it. If group classes are your sole form of exercise, not a good idea. I hate when we have to distill it down to this like if it if it means you're sitting on the couch and eating Dorito chips and that's the reality though a lot of people rather than walk around the block run do that I beyond it
Starting point is 00:59:15 I'm with you Justin it's like you know I hate that we have to like say that it's it's good if you need to move around it's like no It's not even good if you need to move around that's the like, no, it's not even good if you need to move around. That's the thing I don't like about it. It's like there's creating bad patterns. You know what you'd be better off and free to go do? Go find the nearest hill and go hike it. Or go on a two mile walk with your spouse or your significant other.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Like go, go, or your friends that like to meet at these classes go for a nice long stroll with them. It's as good. Well, if you look at the, now to your point, Adam, if you look at the, now to your point, Adam, if you look at the long-term use of people who do group classes, it's actually quite low. What you find in group classes a lot of are new people coming in constantly trying it out,
Starting point is 00:59:58 having fun, getting burnt out, leaving, and it's this huge cycle. Very few people do it, long, long, long, long term, and that's because they don't provide a whole lot of benefit aside from just the moving and calorie burn aspect of it. Injury rates can be high because you're teaching a group of 30 people. It also attracts the people that I think
Starting point is 01:00:18 that it's the worst for. Do I think that I can incorporate some group class and be fine? I know I had it, because I would know what I would need to adjust. I know what I would need to adjust as far as around that where I need to be nutritionally. But who would attract, okay, is the, and I've got thousands of examples of this because of how long we were in the gym industry and you'd see these people come through.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I remember every, all the members that would come in and that's what they wanted. It was group classes and they would line outside out. It's the person who is scared to lift weights by themselves. every all the members that would come in and that's what they want. It was group classes and they would line outside out. It's the person who is scared to lift weights by themselves, but knows they need to get in there and move. They don't, they, they normally were out of shape just the month before. They were deconditioned. They weren't doing any sort of training or exercise before. They, and then they go from not having a gym membership, not working out,
Starting point is 01:01:04 not eating correctly to okay, not working out, not eating correctly, to okay, now I'm eating salads, now I have my gym membership, now I'm going to my group class, and it's like the formula is just setting them up for a disaster. And a lot of the motivation behind going to these classes is the fun and novelty aspect of it,
Starting point is 01:01:20 which if your motivation to do anything is the fun and novelty, that it's eventually gonna wear off and it's not fun anymore. So if you're going to your Zoom, oh my God, I love Zumba. So fun, I go with my friends, we have a great time. At some point, the fun is gone,
Starting point is 01:01:35 but yet you gotta keep working out. And so that's why you see the drop off rate is so high. Which is why the drop off rate is high with a lot of forms of exercise. People want to go for the fun and then the fun is gone, but group classes really, that's how they sell their class, right? That's what they capitalize on. It's not individualized. And in all group classes, most group classes are just different forms of cardio. Whether they have weights or they have steps or they
Starting point is 01:02:03 have gloves and you're pertaining to kickbox and that kind of it's all Yeah, and that's sort of where you run into where it it doesn't have that like energetic high fun Element if it's not it doesn't have the cardio Version of that so I always ends up turning into a cardio version of it. Yeah people get like well You know, I have to stand around here and you know wait to recover fully like they get like, well, I have to stand around here and wait to recover fully. They get, it's boring. That's just a lot. The client that I think again, that it tracks most,
Starting point is 01:02:32 and again, this is an over-generalization. There's always exceptions to the rule, but for the majority that would like to go or go to those classes, and because I've trained a lot of these, I've trained a lot of the group instructors, the instructors. They would come to me because they're like, Adam, I'm teaching five classes a day and I can't lose these last 20, 30 pounds.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And they'd hire me and I train them. And one of the things I would be so tough for me to do is because that's how they get paid and they're teaching as well. I used to tell them, stop doing it with the class and just teach and struct. Right. And so what I'd have to do is, I I'd say listen and I know this is gonna be tough But like I you can't be doing the class with all of them You that's you what you we need to totally fix your metabolism
Starting point is 01:03:10 You're oh your under consuming for the amount of Movement and how much your intensity you're you're doing all day long so the stress levels are are super high to your body The signal you're sending your body is super super loud stressful. And your body is not knowing what to do. It's not burning fat. What we should do is straight sets, long rest periods, maybe strength training, three days a week, slowly started to increase your calories, rebuild your metabolism, and taking somebody who's doing these classes all week long, that's, it's so hard to do that. And it's a long process. So, and that's what most of the people that gravitate those class, again, there's always exceptions to do that and it's a long process. And that's what most of the people that gravitate those class, again, there's always exceptions to the rule,
Starting point is 01:03:47 but most of the people in my experience that take those classes, what's best for them is almost opposite of what that class is providing for them. No, I think the best thing to do, and people need to realize, it's nice to tell members when they come in to enroll all the time, because I used to sell personal training so hard,
Starting point is 01:04:05 partially because I used to be a trainer, but I was a trainer before I managed gyms. But also the other reason is being, I knew that was, if I had any shot at turning this new member into a lifelong fitness enthusiast or somebody who's gonna maintain their health and fitness in a good way forever, the best shot I had that I, and my tools,
Starting point is 01:04:25 was personal training, that's the best. And people would always look at the price of it and be like, oh, you want me to spend $1,500 on a personal trainer when I can just spend $100 and pay $30 bucks a month to be a member. And I used to tell them, like, look, look at it this way. What would you rather do? Take $30 every month and burn it,
Starting point is 01:04:45 or take $1500 and get a credible return for your investment. That's the way you gotta look at it. So my advice to people is if you can afford a personal trainer, hire a trainer for two or three months, at least, two or three months, it's gonna cost you a couple grand or whatever. Do that first, have them train you, learn proper form, correct muscle imbalances, get yourself, start it on a good individualized routine, not on a
Starting point is 01:05:09 group type of class, but an individualized routine. And of course a step down for that would be getting one of our programs, for example, which is not individualized, but it's far superior than a group class that's like one of those cardio-based type things. Do that and then invest in something that's gonna give you a high rate of return. The class is aside from the fun and the maybe, you know, the fact that you're moving kind of aspect, not a lot of benefits aside from those things.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Next question is from Abby Carson one. What is the ideal body fat percentage for men and women? Ideal, I think, what do they talk about? Ideal in terms of health, I would assume, right? Just kind of longevity or whatnot? There's a range, this is what's interesting. You can be very, very healthy as a man at 10% body fat and you can be very, very healthy as a man almost twice as much body fat, 17, 18%.
Starting point is 01:06:09 So, and that's a big difference. I mean, if you looked at a picture of a guy who was 10% and a guy that was like 17 or 18%, it's the difference between like slightly heavier dad bod and abs. Okay, that's the difference. But both of them can be extremely healthy. Now for men, when you start to go above 20% body fat, regardless of how healthy you are in every other
Starting point is 01:06:35 aspect, you start to get negative things associated with just the fact that you have that much body fat on your body. Because body fat is a hormone sensitive tissue and having too much of it regardless of other factors has some negative effects on the body. For women, if you're in the 20% range and you're really, really healthy, you could be 20%, you could be 28%, and the difference is not that big, your health, you could be healthy either way. Once women hit over 30 percent I think is when you start to see some of the negative aspects of having higher body fat percentages.
Starting point is 01:07:15 As far as ideal, that's from person to person. What do they show for men? Men want to be around 14, 15 percent. That's not shredded, that's not overweight. It's kind of like a general healthy body fat for women. It's something like 24%, something like that. The range is pretty big. I think it's more, you're just going to be careful
Starting point is 01:07:33 the two extremes. I think being, yeah, that's a good point. The other extreme that super lean isn't good either. Yeah, no, there's that, absolutely not. I think that we're, sometimes too, that it's one of the things I don't like about our space because unfortunately, sex sales and looking shredded and ripped is best for that
Starting point is 01:07:55 and getting attention. We tend to promote, speaking as in general of the entire space, this image of, you know, four to 6% body fat. And I just, I don't think that's a healthy range for a majority of, and I'm talking about men for me right now, the four to 6% healthy range to be trying to maintain your body year around. Like it's just, it's too low. No, men have a much higher tolerance
Starting point is 01:08:20 for leaner body fat percentages though. Yeah. So a man can lock around shredded. I think a lot of people can, but I don't think it's ideal. Well, what I mean is men versus women. Like women have a lot more negative effects from getting... Well, effects are menstrual cycle.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah. These hair, like all kinds of like detrimental things can happen. But I mean, bad things can happen to men too in terms of, you know, metabolism, anything else. But I mean, bad things can happen to men too in terms of metabolism and anything else, but yeah, it does get more sensitive. It does get more sensitive. But my sex try would die the last month. The last month, when I started getting sub six percent
Starting point is 01:08:55 and I started getting down to that five, four, three, when I started getting down there, I wanted nothing to do with sex. Yeah, I mean, it completely killed my libido. But even women, like for example, and I mean, you know, men and women, women always tend to maintain a higher body fat percentage than men, no matter what, right? But a man who's let's say 8% or 9% body fat can be relatively healthy forever at that body fat percentage. A woman at like 14% body fat, 13% body, she's not competitive shredded, she's very, very lean,
Starting point is 01:09:27 maintaining that too long, well, many times effective, women's hormones negatively, because a woman's body is, you know, it evolved to, you know, sustain life, right? To be this vessel for, potentially vessel for another human life. And when the body fat starts to get low,
Starting point is 01:09:43 or even if it just stays kind of low for too long, the body's like, yeah, we don't want you to procreate. And so it adjusts its hormones accordingly. And so women will oftentimes have irregular or periods or lose their periods. You know how often female athletes lose their periods due to being too lean? It's actually very common.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And a lot of girls don't even notice it because they're on birth control. So because they're on birth control, they don't realize that their natural cycle is fucked up because they're just on birth control. But if you talk to like female athletes who are really lean and they're not on birth control, a decent percentage of them,
Starting point is 01:10:21 just they don't even get their period. I'm like, I'm a majority of all female competitors lose it. It's just part, it's been known as like just part of the process. Yes, yes, yes. It's really common that they lose their period. Yeah, so it's exactly, Adam's put it perfectly. It's the two, it's the two ends you want to kind of stay away from. The two low and the, the two high, but there's that range in the middle.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And I think it's important that we communicate that because I think a lot of people think in order to be optimized health, you have to be really lean. That's not true. You could be heavier, you know? You could have no ab definition and be excellent health, be phenomenal health.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Once you go down to the too lean and the too high, that's where we start to see the problems. In fact, the too lean, if you look at population-wise, people who are underweight have some of the worst health. Obviously, right? They can't keep weight on. They're throwing in people in their web illnesses and whatnot as well. That's basically it.
Starting point is 01:11:17 That's something that's important for people to need to consider is that if they think that their health isn't good because they need to be shredded, not true, that range is quite big. Next question is from very cool Alan. How do you think someone like the rock can keep up his physique and yet work so hard and sleep so little? Well, this is a really good example of, we talk about the benefits of taking synthetic testosterone. You can get away with things like the lack of sleep and get away with things that the average person can't.
Starting point is 01:11:51 So I was just mentioning it earlier on this podcast that when you take something like that, or if you're not taking that, the average human does not have consistent hormones day-to-day or even probably hour-to-hour. I mean, it's this constant ebb and flow of up and down and, you know, everything from stress to sleep to your emotions to what you ate is what if you're supplementing all these things are causing it to fluctuate up and down.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And somebody who is injecting it or taking it by pill, they consistently can keep it. Regardless if they had a bad night of sleep or regardless if they ate really optimal for their body the day before because they're taking it synthetically. So he's a perfect example. So now I've heard rumors of him saying that he's not taking any testosterone
Starting point is 01:12:43 or whatever anymore in that he's admitted that he used to. No, the new thing now is, and it's been going on for a while now, is this is even why too I didn't even like to talk about my hormone replacement therapy or whatever that is. You know, now we just say like, oh, if we're taking a moderate dose, it's HRT, therefore I'm not taking steroids. Yeah, I'm natural. It's like the same thing. It's like, it's just, if we're taking a moderate dose, it's HRT, therefore I'm not taking steroids.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah, I'm natural. It's like the same thing. It's like it's just how much I'm taking of it. Like, I'm taking steroids, no, or taking testosterone, I don't know how you want to look at it. It just sounds nicer that way. And so some people, when they're taking, they're never going to need loads, which is great. Right. When they're taking a quote-unquote therapeutic dose, don't like to claim that they're taking steroids, but yes, you still are. And you still have these advantages that we're talking about is you don't have, you can get away with a lot of the stuff. The other thing too, I think with celebrities, as I think they're constantly, you got to keep this in mind. The rock, yeah, the rock
Starting point is 01:13:40 is a, I mean, he's an actor. He's a phenomenal celebrity. When he was a wrestler, he put on an incredible show. And movies, he's an actor. Do you really think that a social media reflects the real, you know, person? No, I don't think we really know who, you know, Dwayne Johnson is in real life, except for his close friends. And part of his image is this fucking hardcore, hard work
Starting point is 01:14:07 and don't need no sleep, I can do it all kind of person. And so it benefits his brand for him to promote himself as that kind of person like I'm fucking bust of my ass all the time, I woke up at 4 AM. And underarm response is it. Yeah, I'm sure that they don't really want him to highlight the fact of any kind of usage of exogenous testosterone or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yeah, no, I looking at the guy I would bet that he places his health pretty high on his priority list. No doubt he's a hard worker in like a badass. Yes, and we're not denying that. I would bet he takes care of his sleep. I bet his diet is fucking dial all the time. He probably has someone who makes his food for him constantly. The guy never skips a workout. He has, when he does a movie,
Starting point is 01:14:50 I think it's in his contract to have like a trailer gym that he works out. He has a home gym that looks incredible. I would bet you the dude gets good sleep, eats good, and works out appropriately for his body on a consistent basis. That being said, you have to consider this. Everybody has a potential.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And so when you take somebody who maybe has incredible genetics, they're also on synthetic testosterone, their potential is higher than yours. So maybe the rock, let's say he is getting poor sleep right now, this is as good as he's gonna look with his poor sleep. If he had great sleep, he'd look even better. Right, good example. Just the fact that he looks way better than you,
Starting point is 01:15:27 doesn't mean that, you know, he gets away with it somehow. He's just potential, it's just totally different. To that point too, there is a possibility that he's natural now. I highly doubt it. I would probably bet the house on it that he's not, but it doesn't matter. He could have the genetic potential to be able to build
Starting point is 01:15:43 a physique like that and do those things that other people can That's this is why too. It's really bad to look at other people as examples and this is also why I have a problem with speculating our space and a lot of the most popular Fitness people that are giving advice are people that have like hacked their own body like they've figured it out for Themselves like yeah, if I train like this, and I do x, y, and z, look how jacked and awesome I am, and now I'm sharing that with the world, and trying to help them out. Well, you know what? There's such an individual variance in so many people that maybe what's working for you won't work for the person that you're speaking to, or may not work for a majority of the people and that's more often true than not. Right. And Dwayne Johnson is, by all stretches of the imagination, he is not like the average person.
Starting point is 01:16:31 He's an outlier. He's a fucking incredible athlete. He's a massive dude. His dad was jacked, and if you look at his picture of his dad, he's just a big muscular athletic dude that's nothing like most people. And so comparing yourself to him, I mean, it was funny when we first met Ben Pekolsky and how he was trying to lose muscle. He was purposely trying to lose muscle and he's more muscular than I could ever get with any amount of anabolic steroids. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:03 So his potential so high to look at the rock and be like, hey, he's not doing all the things I have to do in order to maintain a good physique and he still looks better than me, compare yourself to yourself. But again, at the end of the day, I bet you guys money that dude prioritizes sleep, training, and diet because it's part of his brand. He has to look a particular way.
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