Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1031: The Best Way to Recover from Overtraining, Adjusting Your Training as You Age, Lessons from Mom & MORE

Episode Date: May 15, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best way to recover from overtraining once you realize you have been overtraining, what their training looks like as they age into their 40s & 50s, the importance of considering finances when entering into a relationship, and the greatest thing their mothers taught them. Sal’s hack to help with the muscle building process post workout using Kettle & Fire. (4:50) Recapping the live event at the Vuori flagship store in Encinitas, CA: A place for common experiences. (11:27) Adam living the brand. (24:11) How using Four Sigmatic cordyceps will increase your stamina in the gym. (25:42) A child discovers $40,000 worth of meth inside box of Legos. (26:42) The science behind noise-canceling headphones + the future of eyewear technology. (28:46) The next frontier for at home fitness training. (35:46) The guys take on the recent changes to the Army’s combat fitness test. (43:17) Florida man arrested for refusing to remove vulgar sticker. (46:15) #Quah question #1 – What is the best way to recover from overtraining once you realize you have been overtraining? (49:13) #Quah question #2 – What do you guys see your training looking like as you age into your 40s & 50s? (1:01:12) #Quah question #3 – Should relationships be a financial consideration? For example, what if your partner has debt? (1:15:40) #Quah question #4 – What is the greatest thing your mothers’ have taught you? (1:25:50) People Mentioned Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕺𝖋𝖋𝖎𝖈𝖎𝖆𝖑 𝕮.𝕿. 𝕱𝖑𝖊𝖙𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖗 (@c.t.ali.fletcher)  Instagram Jessica Rothenberg (@thetraininghour)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off!! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Visit Kettle & Fire for the special offer for Mind Pump listeners! Check out Mind Pump Live to get tickets for their next live event! Visit Vuori Clothing for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Four Sigmatic for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Meth found in child Lego box from SC store, cops say Bose® New Smart Sunglasses How Peloton exercise bikes became a $4 billion fitness start-up with a cult following Why Gyms Should Be Worried ARMY COMBAT FITNESS TEST Florida man jailed for 'I eat a--' bumper sticker refuses to back down Joe Rogan Experience #1044 - C.T. Fletcher - YouTube CT Fletcher on Training with Dr. Dre | Joe Rogan - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. M that, we get into the fitness portion of this episode, but here's what we talked about in the beginning of the episode. I start out the episode by talking about my post workout hack and how I like to make my rice, high protein rice with kettle and fire bone broth, say, wow. Now kettle and fire is a company that we're working with now. They make the best bone broth, in my opinion. If you go to kettleandfire.com forward slash mind pump, you'll get 15% off all products

and free shipping if you're getting six packages or more. Then we do a little recap of our event in Encinitas. That was so awesome. We did a live event in Encinitas, met a lot of our listeners, got to hear their stories, gave us a great sense of purpose. We're doing another one in Manhattan Beach on June 6th. That's coming up soon. I believe we've only sold half the tickets. So there are some available. If you go to mindpumpalive.com, you can

get yourself some tickets. Again, it's Manhattan Beach June 6th. Get on it. I talk about Adam's new four-sigmatic headband on his head. He looks like he's from 1985. Two-lisperc. Looks great. And we talked about Cordecepts and how a lot of our fans are talking about how Cordecepts are giving them

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don't they make headphones? Yeah, they do. And they're making sunglasses that do some of that too. Yeah, let's merge it all together. we talked about flywheel and at home training The army has a new fitness requirements we go over those and then we talk about the guy who got arrested for his IE Ass sticker in Florida of course could it be any other state Then we get into the fitness portion of this episode the first fitness question was What's the best way to recover from overtraining?

Once you've realized you have been overtraining the next question Where do we see our personal training going as we get older now that we're reaching our 40s and now Doug of course in his 50s? The next question When you're looking at a potential partner, should you consider their finances, whether they're in debt, what their credit score is? That was an interesting part of this episode. And the final question, we just had Mother's Day.

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include your Instagram handle, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Blangol Blingo, Presto, Change, don't do that. I have a gray hawk. Dude, I got a hack. I figured out a hack. For what? A slash. So a couple of things, so I gotta set this up, right?

So when you work out, you obviously create some inflammation in the body. Not a bad thing. That's part of the workout, right? That's part of the reason why. In the inflammatory process,? That's part of the reason why. In the inflammatory process, when it's healthy, cause it could always run rampant, right? But when it's healthy, that is part of the,

a large part of the signaling process that tells the body to build muscle or whatever. So you don't wanna overcome this stress. You know, you're not trying to tamp down on, or I'm not, you're not trying to tamp it down, especially if it's healthy, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing. However, for people who have a tendency towards gut issues, sometimes, depending on how

they're feeling, one of the worst times to eat is right after a workout because you have that already increased systemic inflammation from the workout, you're already having potential issues. And then on top of it, you're throwing food at yourself and it may cause, it may create a situation where you cause more food intolerances. However, I'm thinking of, I think I may have come up with a hack. As I say, we've talked about this before, so what's the hack?

So the hack is, because, you know, especially for advanced athletes, right? Post workout, you do get, and again, we're splitting hairs here, but if you're really advanced, this sometimes splitting hairs makes a difference. Post workout, consumption of protein and carbohydrates, especially protein, helps with the recovery process

and may help with the muscle-building process. So I'm like, what can I do post workout, but also take in that's nourishing to my gut that will help with the gut inflammation, but not systemic inflammation. So in other words, I'm not consuming something that's anti-inflammatory all over, but something that has been shown to be good

and healing for the gut, bone broth. Bone broth, post workout, first off, you can get, I mean, bone broth will come in single servings, 11 grams of protein, you get the double serving, which usually is they come two servings at a time, 20 grams of protein, it's bone broth, there's- Does it really have that much in it?

20 grams of protein for both servings. So if you get a carton of, like kettle and fire, that's the, that's the really not that much in it. 20 grams of protein for both serving. So if you get a carton, like kettle and fire, that's the, that's the, my opinion the best one. They taste the best. It's organic, free range, chicken bones or beef bones. One carton is almost zero carbohydrates. It'll give like one gram of carb for both. So if you just want protein, it's great.

So if you're on a, you're trying to cut or whatever. But there's 22 grams of protein, 20 to 22 grams of protein for a carton, which is basically like a glass and a half of bone broth. And then what I like to do is I like to throw extra sodium in there, even though it's already got a decent amount of sodium, just to kind of replenish those electrolytes. Here's the second part of the hack. Let's say you want to also have carbs post workout because we know carbs post workout help again replenish

glycogen, make yourself some rice, but make it with the bone broth. So instead of using water, now you're eating rice and you're getting your 30 or 40 grams of carbs from your rice, plus the built in 40 grams of carbs from your rice plus the built-in 20 grams of protein from collagen from bone broth. I'm wondering where you're going with this

because I was imagining slamming one of those after work out and I was bull. Oh, no, well, you could, if you warm it up, it's really good. You don't want to drink it cold. It is bone broth. That's what I do. I just drink it. I put it in a mug.

I warm it up. I drink it in a mug and sometimes I work out in the morning. So what I'll do is I'll drink it, I put it in a mug, I warm it up, I drink it in a mug, and sometimes I work out in the morning, so what I'll do is I'll drink it on the way to work, and I'll sip it, and it's a warm cup of bone broth, and I notice from my gut it feels, because of course, remember the amino acids that are high in collagen are the same amino acids that the gut uses for repair. This is why if you have gut issues, one of the things that they will almost always recommend that you consume is bone broth. It's always part of the protocol.

But the cool thing about bone broth is, it's very high in protein and the kind of proteins. College, I realize that. College, too, in that little carton. In this carton of, so the, I believe the kettle and fire carton is like 16 or 17 ounces of bone broth. And there's different flavors and all that. I like to just good ol' chicken, the chicken bone one.

And that's it, dude. But if you add it to rice, fucking how cool is that? You have a bowl of rice. You're eating the rice, the rice itself's got the protein and it's got the carbs from the rice, both easily digestible. So there you go. Can I use that?

Can I just use that in my, the way I would steam my white rice? I just replace the water with it. Totally. And it tastes way better. And you get all of it. It doesn't like you like I'm assuming like a lot of the water evaporates when you add. I don't know how you do that. Well, so when I cook rice, I leave the top on so that the you know the of the of the pop. Yeah. Yeah. So that the rice absorbs everything. So when you're eating your rice, if you do it right, so like one cup of rice is two cups of water, so if you do enough rice to ratio of bone broth, it should absorb all of the bone broth.

You're not left with any broth at the bottom of the pot. It's all in the rice. So then you eat your rice and instead of it being made with water, it's got fucking protein, dude. So you're eating a bowl of protein rice, but it's organic bone broth. It's like, it's about as good as it gets.

I can't wait to try that. Yeah, it's really, it's really damn good. It doesn't say it sounds like it tastes good. So I've been doing that. I've been doing that post workout sometimes where I'll just have this warm cup of bone broth or I make my right, because here's the thing with, I love rice. Rice is my favorite source of carbohydrates. One of the reasons why I love rice so much

is it's super easy to digest. I could push rice, consumption, more than I can other sources of carbohydrates. But the thing about rice is you have to typically eat it with something else, because it's just carbs. There's nothing else in there. Fucking make it with bone broth. You got high protein rice.

Now do they have different sources, like the chicken, beef, bison, do they have, does it go further than that? Yeah, it's all organic bones, free range bones. Then they also have, remember I told you guys about the meals, the chili, they have a curry that you can get that's made with bone broth, so it's like a high protein curry. Yeah, of all the bone broths I've tried,

kettle and fire, so I'm excited to work with them to the best by far. But it's a great way to the best by far, but that's a it's a It's a great way to add protein That to meals get collagen protein which you know people they've talked about how it benefits their skin and their gut health and all that stuff But that's my little hack right there. So I've been having both interesting Once you bring something really good dude sometime every once in a while sometimes

You're on to something dude. Can I just can in a while. Sometimes. Sometimes you're onto something. Dude, can I just say something real quick? Yeah. The event that we just came back from. Oh man. In Anston, Edas. Let me tell you that. Still buzz, dude.

It's, you know, the thing about personal training that I love so much that sometimes you take for granted as a trainer, I'm not gonna lie. Like, when you do it for a long, long time, you love it, you enjoy it, you have a passion for it. But it's easy to take, when something's always there, it's natural that you'll kind of forget some of the real value of it. And some of the real value of personal training

is that you get to hear and touch the people that you're impacting. And what that does for you as a practitioner, as a fitness and health practitioner, is if you're the kind of person that is really passionate about what you're doing, and if you're driven by wanting to help people, which I know we are,

we're more than anything else, we're driven because we want to help people. When you're training people in person, you see and touch the people you're impacting, you hear the feedback, and it just reinvigorates you. It gives you that sense of purpose. Because of that sense of purpose, you're always directed in the right way.

You're always moving in the right direction. You're making the right decisions. You're saying the right things. It hones your communication skills. It just gives you that sense of purpose that drives you so well, which is why I trained people for 20 years and oftentimes I would train more than 10 people in a day and as exhausting as that is,

I went back every single day. People don't realize, most people go to work for eight to 10 hours, but when you're training people for eight to 10 hours, you are on all eight to 10 hours. Very, very exhausting, but what kept me going for two decades was that purpose because I got to touch and feel and hear these people. So that's what I got from this event. We did this event, we talked to these people, we did our thing, but then afterwards, when

we went to that bar afterwards and hung out with everybody, it was all the stories, man. Crazy. Yeah, all the crazy stories and anecdotes and things people have had as feedback in terms of like how something we may have brought up on the show or like going through one of our programs or something like that, how that like literally affected them and their relationships and you know, helped them out of a dark situation. Or it was so powerful. Every time we do one of those,

I get blown back and I have to decompress from something like that, that's crazy. I was just sitting to myself, trying as hard as I could to create at least a moment where I could reflect on it. And it was crazy to sit and think about it. I feel this, I don't know how to put worse, but I get this, I feel this like, because I don't, look,

I'm not one to stay up super late and hang out till 2, 30 in the morning. I wake up at five almost every morning, but we're sitting there, and we're at a bar, and we're surrounded by lots of people who came to the event, and they're telling us how, what we've done has impacted them, and the value that we're providing to them,

and I just get this energy, and I feel this tremendous, first off, I feel humbled, like super, super humbled. I feel incredible gratitude for these people, and then I feel this huge sense of responsibility, but it's not like a crushing responsibility that I don't want. It makes me rise. You know what I mean?

It elevates me to a whole new level. I mean, Ryan got emotional. I mean, Adam got emotional. Yeah, I'm Adam. Ryan, who's Ryan? I don't know. I'm not a guy. He's sitting for Adam.

You're other boyfriend? Yeah, yeah, I'm kidding. I'm cheating on you. I'm cheating on you. You don't know, I'm not gonna get it. He's sitting for Adam, your other boyfriend? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm cheating on you. You're the podcast that I'm on. I did, man, I actually. You got emotional. I cried, dude. That was the first time that it happened, or, I mean, the other time I got emotional was when we talked about, and we've shared the story in the podcast before, when we were at

PaleoFX and the young girl. And a totally different story, but similar as far as the emotion, like I mean, she started telling, I don't want to put this person on front street at all, I just don't put their business out there, but husband and wife that had, this is their, they'd been to the other event. And I could tell that she kind of wanted to share some of them.

And she, at one point, she kind of came in close and started telling me her whole story of how she found Mind Pump and what she was currently doing. Ironically, she was a head crossfit instructor and nutritionist for them. And been listening to the show for actually quite some time and still doing CrossFit and it wasn't until maps aesthetic had came out that she decided, okay, I'm gonna, I love these guys a lot and I know they give CrossFit and it wasn't until Maps aesthetic it came out that she decided okay, I'm gonna I love these guys a lot

And I know they give CrossFit a bunch of shit and she's like I just kind of deaf ear at everybody gives CrossFit kind of shit So she just had been kind of deaf earring the advice But got to a point where she's like you know one she had shared some stuff previously in her old relationship That was really unhealthy. She was borderline suicidal at one point. The message that we kind of was giving back then with personal growth and things like that had, she claimed saved her life in which when she's telling me this, you could see how much it had impact her and it was already starting to get me kind of choked up. And then she went in to talk about her fitness journey

and how much that's evolved and changed. And even though we had already kind of saved her life through the stories and stuff that we had shared on here. And that was already one big thing that had happened. And then when she finally decided, okay, I'm going to give this map systhetic a try and follow it to a tee and not, you know, do crossfit even though she was teaching still, she decided to stop doing crossfit. And she was just absolutely blown away. I mean, energy levels, sex drive, her strength, her body had changed like she'd never changed before.

Did she realize the, did she have a point where she realized, oh wow, what I was doing before was not good for me. Well, not only that, she felt, and this was kind of funny in the middle of all this, like we're crying and then we're laughing at the same time. And I said to her, boy, but the CrossFit owner didn't like you too much because once it had impacted her that much, she began recognizing it within the people showing up over there and she was like, you know, after class, like, kind of, hey, you know, this is probably

the best thing for you. So I'm like, she probably wasn't the best for business for them, but yeah, I love things. Yeah, so that one got me emotional. I mean, I was, the whole night was emotional for me, even if I wasn't crying the whole time, any one time I did breakdown with her, because she definitely got me feeling that way. But the whole night was, man, it's just, it's very surreal to feel that and see that. Remember that dude from

Nashville who said he traveled all the way to meet us or whatever. He had a interesting story. He said he identified very strongly with my story of being this skinny kid and being insecure. And at one point, you know, he had a really, really tough time in life. And I think he said, he's girlfriend broke up with them. And, you know, he had, just he wasn't taking care of himself. I don't want to go into detail,

but he wasn't taking care of himself. I wasn't a bad place. And he said it was our podcast that really helped him kind of reinvent himself. And you could just feel his, he was so grateful for what we were doing. And it's crazy because, and like, as I'm saying, we do this podcast and it's easy to forget because we don't see anybody. We're just talking, you know, and it's going out into the internet and because we don't really train people anymore

or maybe we do, but it's a little bit, you kind of forget like how you're really in power. I know what we do is valuable, like totally know that and we're all driven by that, but to see that and hear stuff like that, you know, like that guy, I'm sitting there, I'm like, holy shit man, this is really, we're doing something really good,

it makes me feel really, really good to be in that position. Then I met a young lady who, she was a mental health specialist, but also a personal trainer, and very smart young lady, and we were talking, and she's trying to figure out how she can reach more people. Like how can I reach more people to help?

And she really wants to help the disenfranchised. So her goal was like, I wanna help the homeless. She does lots of work with the homeless. I wanna help teens who don't have good situations because she had a tough time as a teenager and she really wanna help these people out. And you could tell she's really sincere about it. So as she's talking, she's very intelligent, she's communicating exceptionally well and she's talking to help these people out. And you could tell she's really sincere about it. So as she's talking, and she's very intelligent,

she's communicating exceptionally well, and she's talking about how she's trying to grow her Instagram. And I'm looking at her, I'm like, you need to do a podcast. You have so much to share, and it's so valuable, and what you're trying to communicate can't be shared in a single post. This needs to be episodes.

I'm like, you need to do a podcast, and you can see like a light ball went off for her, and she's like, oh yeah, like, why don't I do a podcast? So I'm hoping that she does that and I'll be really cool to see if she ends up doing that and you know, I can say, oh, I remember, you know, talking about that, but everybody, here's the other thing,

everybody was super, super cool people. Like these are people that there was a single person I met that I wouldn't, if I didn't know who they, like if they didn't come to our event and I just met them, that I wouldn't think was awesome, which is cool. Like, we're attracting really freaking cool people. Like, that was one of the things that Taylor made a comment that he thought was really cool was to see, you know, this massive room full of all these people.

And, you know, at all times, we are all in our own little corners with groups of people we're talking to, but you couldn't find anybody that was kind of isolated and not having conversation. There was all these little pockets of three to five to seven people and it was just loud and talking and just people networking with each other and people just becoming new friends and sharing numbe like how many people did you see with their with their phones out and exchanging phone numbers. Yeah. Talking about meeting up later and stuff. So that's really cool to see. Yeah, that was part of it. I thought it was really awesome.

And I kind of like step back and was watching that, watching everybody else interact and everybody else make friendships and start planning things. Because it is. It's like, it's a place for common experience. Like they have this to start with. And it's cool to meet people that are on the same pursuits, and want to be better, and want to grow.

And it's a great that we're fostering that somehow, and like being able to provide that for people to really connect with other people on a deeper level. I can't wait for the next one. Well, it's dope, because I feel like every time I say this was my favorite one. Because the next one's better. Yeah, no, it's just gotten better.

One-uping. Yeah, it's gotten better and better. And the small details, I think, that we keep refining. So it's just an overall better experience. Well, we got another one coming up in like, what, two weeks? Three weeks. Three weeks, Manhattan Beach. That was heavy.

I am really excited for that one. It's another Viori event, so we'll be at a Viori store, which is really cool because Viori hooks them up with a discount when they come to attend. But I'm excited because it's not too long, because sometimes we wait a long time, and I feel like the fact that we're doing another one in just three weeks, it's going to build on that momentum of the feeling of gratitude and purpose that I think we're getting from.

I think we're already half of the tickets have already sold. Okay, so people still go, yeah, Rachel literally just put it up. So it's mindpumplive.com and then you go on there, get yourself tickets, and get going. Dude, how cool was it that that two kids bought their 60 year old mom tickets to come to their band? She was rad. That was freaking. That was my kind of lady.

That was super rad, and we appreciate the gift that she gave. It was very falting of her. Yeah, we're not going to. We're not going to choose like in my local town. I'm like, this makes sense. Yeah, I like you. Yeah, she, yeah, yeah. We're not not shoes like it by local town. I'm like, this makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I like you. Yeah, she, she was some nice vegetation.

She, she, she, that's all I'm gonna say. I was like, what? Yeah, yeah. I was gonna be crazy though. 17 all the way to 62. Yeah, that was the range, right? So all ages, man, I was pretty cool to see that. How about afterwards when we were,

because we were, we were, you know, it was like 230 by the time by the time we finally got out of there, and then we were waiting for our ride, and we were hanging out with a few people, and we're smoking a joint, and we got into our conversation, like we do sometimes, and we're hanging out, and when a woman stops,

and she's like, this is just like an episode. You guys talk the same way, and we're like, yeah, dude, that's what we can do so we can do. We just stop, dude. This is how we talk, normally. Every time, yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, that was could do so many episodes. It does stop, dude. This is how we talk, normally. Every time, yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, it was a great experience. Yeah, it was a incredible experience.

It was one of the next ones. What happened to your beanie? Huh? I feel like you're missing the top part, the most important part of your hat. What? Oh, you don't like, do they hook you up with that? I'm living the brand right now.

Bro, just living the brand. You're wearing the, I gotta say. Like you're ready for like the basketball team of ForSigmatic. I gotta just paint the picture here. You have, Adam has on a Forsegmatic headband. Yeah. So here's the thing,

Adam always wears hats for two reasons. One, not gonna lie, he looks fucking handsome in a hat. Two, probably doesn't want his hair to be exposed, but wearing a headband is just new level. one of those things for me. The new level. Is this for the sweat? No, I don't know why Forcing Manic is doing. I feel like we should know better because we're working with them, why they're passing out sweatbands,

but maybe it's making a comeback. I see Lane Norton wearing them all the time. So this is my... When he is the staple of trends. You're starting, so, guys, fashion. He's, how many fashion trends is he saying? Let me tell you. I started I started working out to montage music right after. Yeah every epic movie I like Lord

Marines. I'm like yes. One of his last like deadlift PRs he made like a Marvel reference afterwards. Oh my god. Oh yeah. I am Thanos. Yeah. It's like, oh my God. Oh, yeah. Hey, man. Good thing you get into another hot life already. Hey, you're killing the game pal. Hey, bro. That's true.

He's making it. He's made it cool apparently. Yeah. But I got some messages from people who are finally using the cordo-seps as part of their pre-workout. And one of the messages I got was someone message me and it's like, ah, I thought you were always just trying to bullshit us by the Corticeps, you go,

but I finally tried it and he goes, the stamina was amazing in my workout. Legit, if you take Corticeps, you're not gonna get caffeine stimulated, but I promise you about halfway through your workout, you're gonna notice way more stamina. The Corticeps does that. It's fucking amazing for that.

That's why Brazilian Giu-Jitsu and MMA fighters, that's where it's really popular. I love using Corticeps because for them stamina, such a frickin' big thing, that they don't need stimulates. They don't need to be stimulated. They want that fucking staying power. Oh yeah, I've talked to a lot of athletes who've really found it just recently, the quarter steps and how that's helped them with their stamina.

Most of them were endurance athletes, but still, if that's something that you do on the regular, it's a great benefit to that. Yeah, absolutely. What's the thing with Legos? That you were on the break. Who was gonna bring that up? I was gonna bring that up.

Yeah, you were saying something to does. So they found, like, so this mom, I guess in Georgia, found in this Lego set that she bought it with one of those consignment stores. So first of all, they like repackaged it and like, saran wrapped it so it looked like it was brand new. So she bought it from this consignment store, brought it back home.

They found $40,000 of meth. What? Inside it. Yeah. Wow, dude, when I was a kid, the free toy was garbage. Can you imagine like the ADD? You know, like how crazy. So they were, they were packaging and shipping in these Lego toy boxes and they were going

as far as doing the Serrantity opening them up, putting them at the inside, then putting it back to serenity. And so apparently they tried to ship it to like a, you know, just some random address so the guy would do a pick up from it, you know, and I'm sure like somehow somebody found it and like sold it to this consignment sort of makes the money off of it. And then, you know, the mom buys it and thinking it's legit, brings it back $40,000 worth of meth is inside. This is, you know, imagine the amount.

That's either the worst day of our life or the best day of our life. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Imagine the amount of meth you got to be selling till just like lose $40,000 worth of meth. And it's like, right? You just write that one off.

You're just like, oh well. Dude, you know, meth is a crazy, crazy drug. I, when you read about what people do when they're on meth and if you've ever taken Adderall It's like, oh well. Meth is a crazy, crazy drug. When you read about what people do when they're all meth, and if you've ever taken Adderall, and you can only imagine times a hundred, that's a drug that people should not be doing. No, especially anywhere in your kids,

it's like, oh my God, what a fail. And how dare you, in Legos, like, come on, man. You imagine she gets the kit for her kid. And she's like, I know it says 10 to 12 and Tommy's eight, but he's pretty smart. She gives it to him. 30 minutes later, she comes back. She's like, holy fuck, he built the whole thing.

He's so productive. He's building other shit. Oh my God. He did his homework for the whole year. This kid is like, he's on fire. Yeah, I love it. He's masturbating. Stop it.

What are you doing? Stop, stop, stop, stop. Stop doing all these things. Stop, stop. Have you guys seen the new Bose headphones that are out? Doug, you got to pull this up. And I know the audience is just going to hang tight. We'll give you a play by play when we look at this.

But look up Bose wireless sunglasses headphones. Oh, sunglasses. Bro, they look like Ray Bans and they're noise canceling and they are headphones. Wait, really? So they go in the ear like from the end? Ray bands and their noise cancelling and they are headphones. Really? So they go in the ear like from the end? They look just like him. Oh, does it go through the bone?

Is it communicated? So check this out. These things are pretty cool looking. But cut it. So I was like, okay, this is, check it out. See him right there? Yeah. They just look like regular sunglasses almost.

What? And you would think that, okay, so the speaker's playing on the outside, so you would think, oh, that'd be really annoying, but it has like this noise-canceling technology on the outside, so even at the loudest, it can barely hear it at all from the surface. So just blasting music on the inside,

like directed at your ears, or like. So do you guys know how, oh, that's brilliant. Look at that. Do you guys know how, oh that's brilliant. Look at that. Do you guys know how noise canceling technology works? No, it's playing it because that was what didn't make sense to me how it worked like that. I looked into this a long time ago because you guys know those headphones I always wear on the airplane.

They're not Bose, but they do have noise canceling technology, which Bose was the first company I think to put the brand that to market. So what it is is when you have constant, when you have sounds, there's changes in air pressure and frequency. And if you can match it with the opposite frequency, it cancels it out. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. So it doesn't work for random sounds like me talking, it won't be able to cancel that out, but what it does cancel out is the repetitive hum

or sounds of things like a plane engine or music. Or if it's something that's constant, it'll pick up on it and it'll do the opposite end of the scale sound to cancel it out, so it sounds like nothing. But it doesn't work well with stuff that's unpredictable. It works well with, that's why it's so good on an airplane because it got that constant hum of the airplane engine.

It picks up on it, it cancels it out. So now instead of hearing, you're much, much lower. And so that's why I wear them so much on a plane. So then the noise cancelling for this isn't that it's cancelling it for everybody else to hear. It's cancelling so you don't hear what is going on outside. It mutes, it significantly mutes a constant repetitive irritating type background sounds. It won't do it to talking, it won't do it to music unless the music is super repetitive and consistent.

But again, people when they want noise cancelling, because if you just want to block everything out, you just put earplugs in your ear. But the reason why people get noise cancelling is again, think of the kind of sounds that you still want to hear the flight attendant ask you if you want to drink or whatever, you just don't want to hear the,

ah, constantly in the background. That's how noise cancelling technology works is it it really brings that have you guys ever tried it before? Yeah, I've tried noise cancewell. Yeah, my my Bose headphones are noise cancelling. Okay, so I've tried just the noise cancelling without music No, so there's a function where you could just just you could hear the difference. It's pretty cool Oh, I've actually never done that. Yeah. They have that? Yeah, so what they do is they'll combine it. So, not only does it cancel the hum of the engine, but then you'll play music so it sounds better, but you can do it that just does the noise canceling.

So, if you don't want to listen to anything, you just want, you know, just to kind of cancel that up. Yeah. Isn't this, it's really interesting to me to see if this becomes a thing or not, because I could see it completely flopping, too. Yeah, because why would you, I mean, where people would wear this, mostly is like where you get like machine sounds,

you know what I'm saying? Or that constant type of machine noise, not like your kids in the background won't be canceled out. Yeah, and usually when you're at the beach, it's like the background noise is kind of nice. It's like you get the waves crashing, you get little bits of like people talking, but not mine.

Well, and also too, then it kind of, you have sunglasses, so it kind of defeats the purpose of indoor listening too. Well, yeah, that's why I'm like sunglasses. I'm gonna be outside. Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see if, I mean, it's a big push they're doing right now. I mean, this thing just can't just,

it just dropped recently. I wonder if they've improved the technology to do more, more than just what I was saying. You know what I'm saying? Maybe, but I thought this was really fascinating. I read this this morning and I thought, oh, this is crazy and I wonder if it will, you know, will it be like one of those,

remember, like, even though this is a different, but the Snapchat goggles that we bought and that those total, that we never, yeah. Those flopped, they sold out like crazy, went bananas and then nobody gives a fuck about. They sold out like crazy, went bananas and then nobody gives a fuck about it anymore. Yeah, I wonder if it's gonna be something like that.

Like, oh, this sounds really cool. Like if I'm in Coachella or someone like that, this would be a neat thing to have. And then it's like that one time you use it to only time you use it. So far the whole glasses thing, you know, isn't, hasn't done anything where you have glasses on and it's got super, it's showing you like you like you know the internet or showing what's going on

Where I think it's gonna go crazy And they already have worked on this technology and they're already they're getting close the augmented reality Contact lenses. Oh contact. Yes. If you if you super zoom holy shit, man Okay contact lenses that you could If you super zoom, holy shit man. You get contact lenses that you could somehow zoom in on people and fuck, oh my, that, because nobody knows you have them on, that's gonna be wild. Well, that's already, I mean, how cool they're probably scared,

because they're gonna have to regulate, you know, like, people have them on, you kind of want to know if somebody has them on, you know, like if they're like checking you out for more. Why? Because it's from hell of far, so it wouldn't matter. Yeah know, like if they're like checking you out for a bar. Why? Cause it's from hell of bars, it wouldn't matter. Yeah, but like I could see it being awesome for like, cause one of the, I football is my least favorite sport to watch live because of how far away it is.

Like even if you're on the 50 yard line front row seats, there's still a lot of distance between you and the actual players on the field. And so it's really hard to see the plays and everything is going on, especially if you're sitting any further than that back. So having that would be awesome. Yeah, because it would be cool. The hard part would be how you control it to zoom, because if it's an outside control or you're zooming it manually, then it's kind of like binoculars but cooler

because it's on your eyeballs. But if they can tie it to the subtle movements and stuff of your eyes, to where it can pick up that you're trying to focus on something far away, so it automatically zooms. Oh my God, dude. You'll be bionic. People are zooming in too far and then they just walk right into a fucking pole. Yeah, yeah.

That's what I'm saying. If you connect somehow to where it's usable, like your own eyes. That'd be weird. We're getting there, dude. All the sci-fi shit is really like coming, like full, full fruit, you know. Okay, what's the word?

I have no idea what's full fruit. Full fruit, shit. Full fruit. It's coming to fruition. Coming to fruition. I don't know, he said full fruit. Full fruit. You gotta go full fruit.

It's like the full fruit. Yeah, it's quarter copied. Some of the stuff is half. We're doing the full fruit. It's kind of a bitch. Have you guys seen, so big push right now happening for at home, and I like to hear what you guys think, if you think this is gonna happen or not,

but so we talk a lot on the show, and I've got, in fact, even on the event, we got asked this question about fitness trends that we see in the future. And one of the things we actually didn't address or talk about that I think is there's an argument here is this, the next frontier for fitness is in living room type training. So like your Peloton. Peloton's question.

Right. And you have a company flywheel, right? They got like $120 million in funding and they're sinking like all of it. And they're like a boutique studio, like what's the other one? Cycle cycle. Yeah, soul cycle and cycle bar and all these like boutiquey little, you know, small studio type classes. Well, they were crushing, got this, we got all this funding and they're taking like all of that to try and compete with Peloton.

And so that's the, and then you have, I shared I think a few months back when that company Tonal dropped, which is the, looks like a universal machine on the wall that has a tree that digital talks to you. So there's a lot of companies. And there's a lot of companies. And some else.

I have some mirrors that this like tells you everything. I think it's going to blow up. Here's why at home training has always been the biggest markets in fitness products. It just has been. I'm not saying it's great because at home training programs are usually shit, but by far, they're the highest. if you look at all fitness programs sold online There's a massive difference between at home ones and ones that require you to go to gym It's always been that way so this is just the next level and I'll tell you what here's how I'm basing it off of When I hear my family members who don't usually work out comment and talk about how much they love Peloton like my brother He's like these fucking awesome. I love it, Peloton's so great. I'm like, okay, they're on to something, you know what I mean?

Well, it's because I feel like now we have the technology to kind of recreate a lot of the momentum and the energy, the vibe you get while being in a group setting. And I think that, you know, what, most people like they, like getting to the gym, that's a big barrier already. And I think that now that if they can,

the best things that you got from the gym was seeing people are seeing the energy and being around that kind of thing to keep you going, if they can actually provide that like in the comfort of your house and then you only have minimal equipment and it is effective, it's gonna crush, it's gonna take over that whole thing, just like theaters and Netflix.

Well, we know that the small classes, small studios are crushing and they've been what's been crushing for the last decade. This is really the same thing, you're just getting the experience at home. So, like I in picture right now, the orange theory is as much as it's blowing up, I have a railroad at home now and I have a set of dumbbells. Like, you know, all I'm missing is the, you know, suspension trainer, which I could get, we have in here. And if I set up, I could literally run the orange theory class. If you brought me in virtually, if you found a way to tap in virtually, for me, through my TV, I could experience that whole competitive class setting and following an instructor as if I was but

from the comfort of my home. And you've significantly lowered two barriers. Barrier one getting to the gym, which is a, that's a massive one. Three Cs men, convenience, that's one of them. And the other barrier being cost, because the cost to deliver, see the other two Cs. Yeah because the cost to deliver,

it's the other two C's. Yeah, the cost to deliver fitness in a small group setting is anywhere between $100 to $200 a month, you could charge way less with an at home version just because you can deliver it to so easily. To that argument, I guess, to that is that these fucking bikes are $1,700 plus you pay $39 a month for the service. So it's not inexpensive.

Not yet. I think that there's for competition. Well, that's exactly why this flywheel had came in. They're coming in. They're like, man, Peloton's crushing. They're expensive and they're still crushing. There's lots of room in the space for someone to come in and compete with it. So yet it's going to be an interesting thing to watch for us.

And I'm interested in stuff like this all the time to see where it goes. It's funny because also too, like Strava is humongous. And it's not really in our line of sight because it deals with runners, cyclists, and people that are even mountain biking and doing things actively outside. But it's like, I see this all the time now because mountain biking is such a humongous thing with all these trails near where I live. And people will go through and recreate,

they make their own trails out of it. And then people try to kind of duplicate what they did in their time. And it's like, it's this little competitive, like world that they've created where people just create their own competitions. Everybody gets excited about it, checks each other's numbers,

and it's spawned into like so many different genres. Yeah, and here's an interesting thought, because I'm thinking that this could go one of two ways. Either one, what we've seen a lot in the fitness space is that different modalities and techniques tend to pull from the same pool. So like something pops up, that's really popular. It's not necessarily attracting a whole lot of new people who don't work out. It's just pulling from other competitors.

So that could happen with this and where you have group classes like Orange Theory, Soul Cycle, losing members to at home type experiences or the second thing which would be very interesting is what if they start to reach people who normally wouldn't work out and bring them into that space and then when people do it enough times on their own at home they're like, hey I want to go try a live class with real people. It couldn't possibly make them grow. That's a two interesting, interesting direction. Yeah, I don't know how much. I think Planet Fitness really understands the 84% of people that don't have gym memberships

and I think they're doing the smarter strategy of capturing those people. Do you think they're bringing people into other forms of fitness through them? Sure. I mean, it's a, you know, by osmosis, it's going to happen, right? You attract, you know, three million people to planet fitnesses over the course of a year. Normally wouldn't go. Right. Who normally wouldn't go. A percentage of those actually keep going and may or find other types of training. I mean, we have people that listen to our show that are Planet Fitness users too.

So I just think that they have a better strategy towards the 84%. I don't see the non-workout person or person who doesn't already invest pretty heavily into fitness, dropping 1700 on a bike in $39 a month. Oh, not for that. No, I'm thinking as competition grows,

there's gonna be some very low cost high value options where people can tune in. They're in a, like a live class and they're doing a workout type of deal, but the experience being better than anything else that they've ever had at home before. Cause it's just growing. That at-home market is always been big, but now it seems to be growing more in this

direction that give you that feel of being around lots of other things. Yeah, it's going to be fun to watch, man. We'll see what happens. Yeah, a little bit. Did you guys see, so someone in our forum posted apparently the army has kind of new or has changed their combat fitness tests. Yeah, you mentioned that. Like there's like deadlifting involved in it.

What did it tell me? Yeah, so the goal is to improve soldier and unit readiness, transform the army's fitness culture, reduce preventable injuries and attrition, and enhance mental toughness and stamina. That's right on the website. And the tests or the events that they do is there's a three rep max deadlift, which I think is cool. I don't know that they did. But if you think about it, lifting something off the ground like another soldier or whatever, they're using a trap. They're using a trap bar for this. There's a standing power throw

where you're throwing, I believe a medicine ball overhead explosively. I guess this is to see how well you can maneuver equipment in personnel. There's a hand release push up. This is for sustained pushing, used in combat tasks, which this is cool because I can explain it all here. There's a sprint drag carry, which that makes a lot of sense. Then there's

something called a leg tuck where you're holding to onto a bar and able to tuck your knees up. And I'm assuming this is like when you're trying to climb over shit. Yeah, yeah, climb in like also like kind of it's a technique that you use to get across like a like a yeah, a ravine or so. And then a two mile run. Now what's cool about this is if you're trying to get into the army and pass these tests, you know exactly what they're looking for and what you need to train. So I think it's kind of cool. What do you think of the stuff that they're asking for?

The leg talk, the run, the drag and carry push up, the throw, the deadlift. I feel like they picked great. Yeah, I think it's specifically like in terms of what they need to assess like from a soldier and like what you know are required. I think they did a great job of picking exercises for it. Yeah. Now I wonder if they're doing percentage of body weight or if they're like the three dead

lifts. Yeah, for like the strength stuff, right? Is it a percent of dead of body weight or are they saying you, for the three dead lives? Yeah, for like the strength stuff, right? Is it a percent of body weight or are they saying, you have to lift this minimum out because equipment weighs as much and the average soldier weighs as much? Right, they probably do something along the lines of just splitting men and women.

Women have a certain number, men have a certain number, and then they go after, that's what I would guess. Now, I wonder, does that mean then, because obviously generally speaking, women aren't as physically strong as men, does that then mean that women are not put into positions where they have to carry or lift as much stuff?

Or does, I would assume so, right? If you have a different standard, and that means, okay, you can't lift as much therefore you can't do this particular thing. I wonder what that looks like. I would like if somebody knows DM me, I'd like to see what that looks like. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how they sort of filter

that out like based off your results of your test. But I think it's cool that they're putting that out there. So interesting stuff. What was that sticker? You guys see that guy got busted for the sticker in Florida? Yeah, so what happens? Yeah, it was in the, he got pulled over because apparently it was an obscene sticker where basically

the sticker read, I eat ass. Which is a statement, right? Right. And the officer pulled a moment and was like basically trying to make the argument that what would you tell a kid that read that would a parent have to tell their kid about this? And it was such a weak argument. Like I mean, the guy's like, you know, I thought this like first amendment wise,

like, you know, it's just basically a funny statement and you actually got busted. You got busted, Florida cracked down on them pretty hard. Cause they considered it an obscenity. Yeah. Really? Cause I eat ass. Yeah.

Like I mean, it's ridiculous. I wouldn't put that on my car, but you know, it's not that bad. I mean, what? It's ass like, where does that fall under? Because it's something like a sticker in visual discipline. In public?

Yeah, but you can say what you want in public. Well, there's certain obscenity laws in public. So let's say you were standing on a soapbox and telling really, really looed and filthy jokes and you were around to school. You probably would get busted. So there are laws like this, but this feels like a cop who's like,

I don't like that guy. That got on my nerves. I'm gonna fucking bust him. I mean, he kinda looks like a guy who eats ass. Yeah, he looks picture. And it looks like this kind of chubby thing. And it's not that hard to explain to your kid, because ass also means donkeys.

Oh, he likes to eat donkey meat. Yeah, there. And then fucking move on. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, exactly. He's not showing his dick. No, everybody calm down. Yeah, that's interesting.

I didn't know you could do that. I thought you, I've seen, I thought I've seen, Mom, maybe I can't see. Of course you have. You've seen way worse than the table. Yeah, shirts that said zero fuck. He's fighting it. I, that's the things. I wonder how they're gonna like rule at the end of this

Okay, so it's not so right now he's in the middle of it This isn't like they haven't ruled on him like he's in trouble. No, but he got pulled in though. Yeah, he did Yeah, they did the whole picture everything. Yeah, I can't imagine he's gonna get in trouble for this I feel like I've seen worse bumper stickers dude I've seen trucks with freaking testicles hanging off the back right right I know and they look like testicles yeah they're not like pretend like they look like like Harry Vaney yeah it's like hanging off the back which by the way if you have that under car you might as well have a sticker on your car that says I have a small dick and I'm a big douche bag I'm a douche that's a hundred percent what that says you know also if it's true or not

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I'm not trying to take them from overtraining to nothing. I'm just taking them from overtraining to things that facilitate recovery. Then when we get back into the workout, we get back into it with a scaled-back version That's more appropriate for them, but I find that weak off in between It shortens the period of time that their body starts to Is that a bodybuilding thing that they called it de-load week because I don't remember that in sports training like having that

Specific term for it. We did do that in terms of like when we transitioned to another phase that was like way more intensive. But that's definitely something that I would highly suggest is like getting through, you know, give your body a chance to really recover and provide like active recovery and do movements along the process. I'm pretty sure D-Load came from not body building, but the strength sports, like powerlifting and Olympic lifting.

They tend to be, well, they tend to be. They definitely are much better about their exercise programming, because it's such an objective measurable. Like, if you're not getting stronger, it's not working. Let's change it. And so D-Load was, I think, part of their lexicon. I also think it matters how you're over training, right? So if you're somebody who's over training from, like, so I caught myself over training, chasing deadlifting PRs, and I was lifting heavy all the time and too much and joints were getting achy and I was inflamed a lot.

And you know, one of the best things to South Point would be would be to take a week off, which I think that I agree with the week off almost for anybody who's over trying to just allowing the body to reset, but to not fall back in the trap, I think phasing out of whatever either a modality or rep range or meso cycle that you're currently in, I think is important. So that's speaking to the,

because if I have somebody who's like a high intensity person, which this is probably the most common thing and I see overtraining, like a CrossFit class and Orange Theory type class, seven day weaker, high intensity circuit training, nonstop, nonstop, nonstop, and not enough calories and overtraining that way. Like that's kind of what I think is the most common

that I would see that person and we person, I take them a week off and then I get them into strength training with straight sets and long rest periods. That's the phase that I would move them into when I reintroduce exercise again. Now you could be somebody who was doing five by fives like crazy and heavy lifting, heavy lifting, heavy lifting every single day. The type of training that I would phase you back in after that week off would be different. Like that person I would probably do more of a hypertrophy based training protocol or just a lighter weight higher repetitions. So I guess it matters too. Well, that's key, right? That's key that when you come back not to do what you were

doing before. Because that's a mistake people make. They'll take the week off. They'll come back and be like, I'm rested. But that's why I brought that up. I think it's important because I don't think people realize that. I think it's really important to assess what you are currently doing. And more often than not, the overtraining is normally because someone has been stuck in a phase for a long period of time,

that have just been hammering it, because even like really stressful training or really high intensity, crossfit type, ornestiary type training is not that bad for the body short term. You can get away with that for a couple of weeks to a month, or something like that. And in fact, probably really good for somebody's systems

to get shocked like that for a little while. But it's typically somebody's been stuck in that same phase for a long extended period of time. That's normally what leads to overtraining in my experience. So, yeah, so what they usually do is they do, they say, oh, it's not working. I got to push harder. Right. I got to do more of what I'm doing. That's not working. Right. It's not just that I'm not doing enough. So not only is the week off, I find really important, but then also when you return back to training that you phase out of whatever modality you were doing. So if you were the CrossFit Orange Theory person, then getting out of that circuit base type

of high-end density training and moving into something more strength-based would be ideal for you. But also, same be said to somebody who has been strength training a lot, five by fives or chasing PRs and doing singles and doubles and doing that a lot, taking them a week off and then actually moving them out of that type of training and moving them more towards high-perture fee.

Increasing your apps. Yeah, yeah. And I think it's important to understand that there are two different things that we may be talking about. One is you're just, your workout's not effective anymore. And the other is you're applying more stress than your body can handle.

You're doing more than is needed to get your body to change. And because you're doing more than is needed to get your body to change. And because you're doing more than that is needed, your body is primarily focused on recovery and not on adaptation, not on building, not on burning body fat, not on becoming more fit. And so you're stuck in this constant recovery state, which over time becomes overwhelmed, and then you're in this bad, overtraining state.

That right there will require the week off, and then when you come back a marked reduction in intensity and in volume. So it's not just doing something different. It's also, because look, here's a deal. If you're over training like that, and you're like, oh, I'm doing too much orange theory classes, I'm burnt out, I'm doing a way too much,

let me take a week off, and then you come back, and you're like, okay, add them on mind pump, say, do something different. So then you come back and you're like, okay, Adam on Mind Pump said, do something different. So then you go to a crazy high volume strength training program. Still maybe too much, even though it's different, you may, it's just the fact that you're just throwing too much stress at your body. So look at it that way as well. If you're over training because of that, and by the way, your body, your body all stress

accumulates in the body. It's not just training. So oftentimes, what I'll overtrain you this week may, may not overtrain you next week. And what I mean by that is, here's another way you can look at it. Let's say I'm training really really hard. I'm like, Oh my God, I'm overtraining right now. And I look at my lifestyle. And I say, I'm not getting good sleep, and I'm having stressful relationships, and my diet's not good. Maybe what I do when I come back from the week off

is fix that. Maybe I fix that, and then I can handle the harder training. That's another strategy, because all of it contributes to your body's inability to overcome the stresses. It isn't just the exercise. Although the exercise tends to be clear cut

and easy for people to identify. It tends to be harder to identify other behavioral changes that may need to change. Because what I tend to do with my workouts, it's if I'm pushing really, really hard, and I'm not recovering quite as well. Oftentimes I can look and see, it's my lack of sleep.

Like that's a big one for me. I'll go get more. Did you guys get more? Did you guys get tagged in the Joe Rogan interview with, God, what was his name? And he, and they, he talks about, he doesn't believe in overtraining. No. Yes, you did.

No, no, I know, but I don't listen to it. What do you do? Oh, it was just a small clip. It was just a quick clip of him. It was Joe Rogan interviewing. Why can I not think of the guy? He was hospitalized recently. Big buff black dude. He. Oh, C.J. C. T. Fletcher. That's who I was trying to think of. Did you see that? No, you didn't see the clip? No, I don't watch the clip. Oh, yeah.

It was just a short clip that I saw. But I know his message. Yeah, no. And I mean, I respect the guy and I value him. I think he's interesting. You know, he seems like a really cool guy, but that message right there is exactly why you have a lot of kids going in and people, and middle-aged people who listen to that message. I want to get in shape, I want to change my life. This guy says you can't overtrain him, he's gonna fucking apply my hard, crazy work ethic

to working out and they go all in too hard and then they end up coming to me a year afterwards and I got to help fix them. I also think it's a result of the word or the term overtraining being loosely used. And I think you were bringing it around to a good point that we are talking about, I guess, a few different things. The suggestion of taking a week off and changing phases may apply to you,

even if you're not, quote unquote, over training. Like maybe your body is not dying, it's fine. It's just need something different. Yeah, but you've been in a hard plateau, right? You've been in a hard plateau for a really long time. And so maybe that's also where this advice still applies. So it's not, we could get into this debate back and forth on, you know, is this person technically overtraining, or were they just stuck in a phase or a way of training for so

long that they've plateaued hard? Either way, the advice still is the same, and either way, this is more common than not. Yeah, and then to your point about environmental stresses and things like that where you're gonna accumulate more volume of stress, it's hard to identify that the training specifically is what's causing the over-training versus all these other environmental factors and things that you're not able to fully recover

going back into the workouts. It's not necessarily what is causing it. All of it is. So if you look at your stress and you lump it all together because that's the way the body does. The body considers it all kind of the same. Look at all of it and say, okay, either I reduce the intensity and volume on my workouts

or I sleep better and prioritize that or I fix my diet or I stop having stressful relationships with people or I reframe the stress of my job or change my whatever. All of it contributes similarly to the body in terms of stress. I remember when I first learned this lesson as a kid. Remember I started working out when I was 14 and as a kid, here I am 14.

I'm in the middle of like puberty ramping testosterone levels through the roof. I could get away with a lot. So I did. I trained like a maniac. I remember doing these crazy double split routines that I read in Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia Body Building and they, first they work, and then they stop working my body plateaued, and then I read articles by Mike Menser,

who communicated the exact opposite of what Arnold did, and I remember this because it blew me, and it was so impactful that I actually got stuck in the opposite direction for too long. But I remember changing my workouts, drastically reducing the volume of my workouts and frequency and then I gained like five pounds of solid muscle like really fast and then of course I was stuck in that for way too long. But I remember learning that lesson like okay you can definitely

do too much and doing too much well just you're not going to get there any faster. There was actually a study that was a long study that was I got tagged on a few different times. I haven't looked too deep into the details, but from what I've read, they compared different amounts of volume of training. And they found that the group that did the moderate amount of volume built the most muscle. There was another group that did more volume, and they actually built less muscle. And it just goes to show you that there's definitely too much. You can definitely do too much and get your body to not progress nearly as quickly. Next question is from Pat 05. What do you guys see your training looking like as you age

into your 40s and 50s? Well, since I'm the only one that's 40. Just next year, dude. You're around the corner, dude. Yeah, January. I'll chow. That's gonna be great. At least club. You know what? Here's how I view the overall arching philosophy of my training is not gonna change in the sense that

the philosophy is to meet my body where it's at and train it according to its needs. That being said, as I get older, I'm just noticing that I value mobility more than I used to. I have to be smarter with my training. So I'm gonna kind of listen to my body, how it tells me train harder, train a little bit lighter. I still, I probably will always value strength and muscle.

So I don't know what that's gonna look like. As I continue to get older, I'm sure some stuff will change, but I always value it. I always like the pump. There's a bodybuilding aspect to working out that I always, I think I'm always gonna value. I mean, I don't know for sure as I get older, but I don't see how that's gonna change too much.

I think, I mean, we've already, I could speak for myself, we've already, I could speak for myself in terms of like, how my training has already started to evolve based off of like what my body's telling me or what I'm feeling, like, what's really benefiting me in terms of, like, I still provide the foundational strength lifts.

Like, that's something like, I'm always trying to make sure that I'm keeping that a regular part of my training so I can keep a solid base to work off of. However, a lot of that pursuits, like you said, mobility wise, I've learned to provide certain types of movements in order to give me optimal function, which I value more heavily for everyday functional practices and just being able to keep up with my kids

and have energy and stamina and avoid this constant achy, naggy kind of pain stuff that results from being in a locked position more often now so I think too it's a it's a matter of the the day-to-day practices that I Notice like I notice if I'm sitting too much I notice a fine in my car too often commuting and like all these things that like Previously when I was younger, I wasn't constantly commuting in my truck for three hours a day. Like that adds up by itself.

So I have to, I have to provide my body with this, these movement practices in order to alleviate a lot of stress in my hips and my knees and then my shoulders every morning. I do a ritual to make sure that I have that nice loose, like I can do anything kind of a feeling. So I want to maintain that. I want to maintain abilities and be able to get up and feel like I could do just about anything. I don't know how much mine's going to change in comparison to probably the last five years, and I'm also including the bodybuilding streak there, and people are probably going, well, are you really going to do that again?

And I think that right now, like I row, I swim, I do a lot of mobility, I get in and I train full body two, three times a week right now, maintain myself anywhere between 10, 12% body fat. This is a very comfortable place for me. I mean, my testosterone levels are back on the rise and I'm feeling better than what I did two years ago when I'm coming off a testosterone. But I also think that, I mean, I know myself really well. I like to get out of my comfort zone and challenge myself. So I definitely, I'm already getting the itch to, you know, find something to drive towards

to get after it. And I think that's how I'll always be, even in my 40s and 50s, where I'll cruise for most of the time and keep myself in a healthy place, body fat wise, keep myself in a overall mobile, overall strong, just kind of a good balance. And then every once in a while, I'll get after it. And like for months or two a year at a time, I could totally see myself as I get into my forties to do another show just because I'm in my forties to say, you know, I'll be cool to see if I get myself in competitive bodybuilding shape

or get into some swimming thing and do something around that, or even do some Spartan race. Like I could see myself doing something like that, even in my 40s and 50s, because I like to set little fitness goals like that and then go after it, although a majority of my lifting career or lifting

time is centered around moving better, feeling better, you know, sleeping better, energy, sex drive, like that stuff seems to matter a lot more today than it did. You know, 10 years ago for me, I used to be the all show nogo guy, like I just cared about the way I looked. And for much of my fitness career, I think I was constantly saying that. Where now I would say that I care more about how I feel and move than how I look. Look is taking a back seat, although it's still something that I care about. So, I do see myself having these little moments where I sprint and get after it

and really get myself in top tier shape and then let off the throttle. And at all, I feel like it will revolve around what's going on with my life. I think I openly admitted like about a year and a half, two years ago that after I came out of the body building run that I just I'm so excited and into the business of what we do right now that that's a priority. A lot of my free time that I have is actually spent around mind pump and what what we're

doing or what we're going to be doing and I'm loving every minute of that. And you know, so it takes a little bit higher priority than me getting into the gym every single day. Like, I was when I was competing when that was a higher priority. But I know myself and at one point, I'm sure I'll say, Hey, I've been running at the business things so hard. Maybe it's time for me to night ticket and I said, I'll break and get back into hardcore training. And I think that's good. I think it's good for the body to kind of stretch your limits like that in short bouts and then to be able to pull back and be more balanced about it. So I don't know how much it's going to change.

I really think that's what my 40s and 50s look like. The irony of this question is that activity and in particular strength training is more important as you get older. It's not that it's not important when you're younger It's also important. It's just more important as you get older. I mean I've said this so many times. I'm gonna say it again. You know, I've trained people in all age groups But towards the end of my career. I did a lot of training of people in in advance stage, which I'd consider over 65 or especially in 70s and older. The difference between a 20-year-old that works out and a 20-year-old that doesn't, you can see there's a difference. But the difference between a 60-year-old that works out and a 60-year- old that doesn't, it's like a different species.

It is completely different. The difference between a fit 60 year old and your average 60 year old is a difference between somebody that can, is fully mobile on their own, has got normal hormone levels, can do whatever they want, has no major chronic health issues versus the average 60 year old that's on one or two medications that doesn't have the stamina mobility to hike and play with grandkids and do what they want. When you go to 70 and 80, it's the difference between somebody who's independent and somebody that needs a caregiver.

Or dying. So, it becomes far more important as you get older. So, when people ask me, am I too old to start working out? My answer is you're too old, not too. Yeah. It becomes far more important. And the difference is it makes in your body or just, I mean, the reason why I used to love training people in the advanced age, part of the reason was the impact

that I was making on them was life changing, life changing. There's nothing like getting someone to lose 30 pounds of body weight. That's awesome, it's phenomenal. But it doesn't come close to getting someone from, I needed somebody to help me get out of a chair every time to, I'm independent now. That's fucking life changing.

Yeah, I think, I think it really isn't gonna look much different. I mean, that's my goal. You just keep going. You keep going, dude. And the only difference is that it has to be more intentional because the opportunities don't just present themselves as frequently, you know, throughout my day to be like, okay, yeah, cool, I'm gonna get my workout in no big deal. Like, no, there's a lot of

shit that's that's made its way in place of like just randomly where I would normally just be super active. So I just have to plan it better, get more structure around it, and you know, be very intentional about what I do. Dude, there's an old saying, I got sick of when I was in fitness early on, but I'm gonna say it now, because I think it needs to come back. If you don't use it, you lose it. This is an old saying, we used to say in fitness back in the day,

totally true. If you don't use it, it's gone. If you don't squat, you'll lose your ability to squat. If you don't reach up above your head and get stronger in that position, you'll lose your ability to reach up above your head. If you don't strengthen particular muscles, they're fucking gone. And then you end up sliding downhill. It's funny. I talked to a gentleman recently who owns care homes for the elderly. And he says, you know, the number one cause of death for the elderly is they fall and hurt themselves. And then they die of something else. And in doctors, you said, I was a train a lot of doctors and they would tell me, you break a hip and you die of pneumonia.

It's that lack of strength, that lack of mobility, the fact that they've lost it. And when you look at the most successful in terms of health, cultures as people age, some of the Chinese and Japanese cultures are some of the healthiest in old age. Now, why is that? They have cultural practices of activity. It is literally a part of their culture. If you go anywhere, like in the Bay Area, there's definitely pockets

of neighborhoods with a large Asian community. You go early in the morning in some of those gyms and you know who you see in there? Older Asian people and they're doing the steam room, they're walking on the treadmill, they're using machines. They're doing Tai Chi. Whatever, you see that park's doing Tai Chi. It is a part of their culture. This is walking after meals, a part of their culture. Just being independent, being active, part of their culture.

This is one of the reasons why the best long living cultures when you look at like the elderly are Chinese, Japanese, cultures in particular tend to be awesome. Doug, I know you lived in Japan. It's companies. It makes it part of the culture. Companies would at 8 a.m. or whatever, 7 a.m. the whole company goes outside, does calisthenics. I don't know one American company.

That does that. So, it's a very important thing. And as you get older, it becomes even far more important. So, I'm always's a very important thing. And as you get older, it becomes even far more important. So I'm always going to be listening to my body as I get older. So my body's going to tell me what it needed you more of, what it needed you less of. But one thing is for sure, I'm probably not going to not do anything. Oh, I feel like we've just honed in now. Like I feel like training is easier for me than it's ever been in my entire life. Like I did a lot of the wrong shit as I was younger, insecurities driving what you were doing,

pushing way more than you needed to. I don't know, I feel like after doing this for almost 20 years now, you've kind of found the sweet spot. I've really true, which is why I'm always trying to do as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change And I'm sure you've heard that a million times on here, but that gives you staying power Right, it's what it's it just resonates with me so much because I had to learn that the hard way and now I fully grasp it and understand it and and training is really great managed and I don't know How much it's gonna change from kind of how I am right now my my 40 to 50s. I just, but I definitely think you'll see all intermittently have these

times when I really stretch myself, but for the most part, I'll be, I'll be training to improve all of their aspects of my life. Like I want my relationships to be good. I want my mobility to be good. I want my activity to be able to keep up with my kid to be good. I want, you know, hair, skin, sleep, all these things. I care about that. For me, my training is there to enhance and make all of those things better. Then, hey, every once in a while, I like to flex. Every once in a while, I'm going to get after something and challenge myself. I plan to do that for as long as I possibly can. Well, yeah, and if you train because you value extreme performance, there's nothing wrong

with that, but you have to learn at some point to train because you value health. Because I don't care who you are, at some point your extreme performance is going to go away just because you get older. And if you're one of those guys or girls that just is so addicted and identifies so strongly with extreme performance, that's the person that fucks themselves up later on with training and isn't, you know,

training in an intelligent way. But there definitely does need to be a change in how we view aging and pain. Like I had this conversation with my dad, they, you know, we hung out over Mother's Day, and my dad's like, oh, my back, you know, my back's bothering me, it's hurting me real, you know, it sucks getting older,

and there's nothing like that. And I'm like, yeah, I said, if you do the right movements and stretches, your back pain will be gone. No, you don't understand it, you know, I have the herniated discs and I have arthritis, and I'm old. And so I literally worked on his neck

for no joke, 10 minutes, took him through two stretches. He stands up, he's like, holy shit, son of a bitch, it feels so much better. I'm like, yeah, fuck it, I'm telling you man, you just gotta have a different mentality about this, do this every single day. It's gotta be a part of your life.

Next question is from Alejandro Sanchez, takes photos, should relationships be a financial consideration. For example, what if your partner has debt? Oh, I think so. Yeah. I thought this was a fun, interesting question. I personally picked it because I actually wanted to hear the two of you guys talk about it and have a discussion around it because it was something that it was important to me.

It was really, I mean, I grew up in a home where my parents weren't the most financially responded to sell me to come. I left her at home. I didn't know what you were thinking right now. We were at the talk at Viori, and I referenced not having a lot of money growing up and not being well off at all. And so I said, yeah, he only had two horses.

That's all good one. But that was an example of it. You know, you're like, don't we don't have heating today, kids, but we bought a horse. Right, right. Yeah, and we got evicted like six months later, right? So that was the joke.

But true, I mean, we did things that were not very responsible and weren't a very good example for me as a kid growing up. So I learned later on how important that was. As I was dating in my 20s, definitely, it was important to me. I remember dating some girls and really liking them, but then also seeing how irresponsible they were financially and how much credit card debt they already had. And it was something that they don't even know

because I don't think I really expressed it much to them because I didn't even know how to communicate this to them at that age. But I remember thinking to myself, like, dude, I've worked so hard to get myself in this place financially and not have debt and have good credit score and have all this stuff going for me. Like, man, do I really want to marry somebody or get into a relationship long term with

somebody? And now I inherit all of their bad habits and how much stress will that put on the relationship? And because that's what I remember a lot of the fighting and stuff that I grew up around. Many times it stemmed from finances. It was, you know, it tended to always happen around some sort of a holiday or something when, you know, my parents couldn't buy us kids something or get each other or something or couldn't get a Christmas tree or whatever the case may be. And that, then the next thing you know, my family would be fighting and

screaming and yelling and all this shit. And,'s dim from us not being able to do those things. And so I think it absolutely can be. It's a big one. I mean, it's part of the value system that you're looking for a potential mate that has similar core values that you definitely know about yourself and you want to see reflected in your partner.

And I mean, that's a, that's a major one where you could see their habits and you see how they utilize money and like, where they're, where their value is with that. Like if they're thrifty with it, if they're, um, you don't have to have a plan for what they're doing, or if they're just like constantly just shelling it out as they get it in. I mean, that having kids, another major, major topic that I would highly suggest you talk about at some point, and then your value system in terms of where your morals come from, if that's from a religion, if that's from just the way

that you have this moral code you operate by. These are subjects rather that are definitely something that I feel more people need to be upfront and honest and have real conversations about before getting too vested in somebody. Yeah, it's not a 100% foolproof, but it's a pretty damn good clue oftentimes of someone's level of responsibility. And people who tend to be in debt a lot, they tend to just be irresponsible. Now, there are times when shit happens,

in which case, let's say you're somebody who's in debt because shit happened, maybe they started a business and it failed or maybe they made a bad decision, how are they behaving now? Are they saving their money? Are they being frugal to get back on their feet? Are they still spending money that they don't have or they're still going out to dinner?

They're still buying a bunch of new clothes. That's a very, very good indication that you're with someone that is a bit impulsive and irresponsible. And that oftentimes doesn't just, you know, wall itself off with finances. Like somebody who tends to be irresponsible with finances and impulsive with money

also tends to, in my experience, be like that with other shit. How you do anything is how you do everything. Yeah, so that's a big one. So, you know, and again, it's not foolproof. Like you can't just look at someone and be like, oh shit, you're in debt. Therefore, you know, it's not foolproof person. But it's a pretty damn good gauge though.

It's one gauge. This is why credit scores, remember, we live in a market economy. Things exist because they work. If they don't work, then they don't exist. For good or for bad. And the reason why there are credit scores is because another company can look at your credit score

and make a generally decent opinion on whether or not you're somebody that they can lend to. And if they do lend to you, what your interest rate's gonna be based off of that score. It's not perfect again, but generally speaking, if somebody comes with a 300 credit score versus someone with an 800 credit score, it's a pretty good bet. The odds are that the person with 800 credit score, probably going to pay back, probably going to be responsible if they get in financial dire stra're going to save their money, they're going to try

and work more to make it. The person to 300 might make more money and just spend more of it. I've known lots of people like this. I mean, I've known a lot of people and remember I came from a family of immigrants. So my family came here with nothing. I've known a lot of people without much money. Sometimes it's because they have no money, but they act like they don't have any money. Like my mom used to literally take napkins and cut them in half. She put on me and my sister cloth diapers because she wanted to save money.

And my parents, my dad with a second grade education, and my mom who stayed at home was eventually able to be middle class and own a home and pay it off and be able to support us kids. And we weren't, it's not like they paid for our college and nothing like that. We had to do that kind of stuff. My brother paid for his own college,

so to my sister. I didn't go to school obviously, but I paid for myself, but they lived a particular way. But then I've also known other people, same situation, racking up credit cards, buying new rims, getting the frickin' new stereo system, the cool, you know, clothes, eating out,

and then you see them later on, they're fucked. And it's like, well, you didn't, you spent a bunch of money you didn't have, and so that can be fucking tough, if you're gonna marry someone like that. Let me tell you, especially if you're gonna get really real. Because then it is yours. That debt is yours.

No matter how you think you can structure it, once you get married, like, well, this is my money I'm bringing in. It's very money, but I get to use it for it. It's both your money. That's what you guys have. And that can only imagine how frustrating that is. If you're with someone and you're like, okay, when you save money, we're doing this.

And then they go buy some frivolous item and you're like, fuck, okay, I know you're spending your money, but we're both together and that could be a definite. I think it's one of the number one reasons why I'm just gonna say a divorce. It's just gonna say that. I believe I've read a stat that says, it's like one of the top three.

It is, it's definitely the top three if it's not the number one is Finance and so I definitely think it's a conversation. Have you guys ever had to have that with someone before or like How was that with you guys's current partners right now? Was that a conversation or did you kind of were old and wiser and so you saw it before and that was an easy one with with You know Courtney like we both saw the same like eye-to- like very hard working, very driven, but like not frivolous with money, but like not, not super frugal either in terms of like, we could go out every now and then occasionally, but we'd feel when we'd needed to reserve and pull back and not, you know, and really focused on saving for a good

period of time. And then so it was kind of, it's nice. It's kind of how I've always sort of viewed money. And like I want to make sure I'm constantly being responsible and saved, but at the same time, I'm not trying to like devote my whole life around how much I could stockpile. So that was an easy conversation with her,

but yeah, in previous relationships, I could see the signs right away because daddy was like funding everything. And then like, that was expected from me on like every occasion, I'm always shelling, shelling, shelling out and that got exhausting and I had to let that one go. Yeah, I'm extremely conservative with my investments and the money that I have in her. I would think you would have the most around this. I'm very, but I'm also, I take a lot of risks when it comes to business.

I've been an entrepreneur since I was 21. That's the first time I owned a business and paid for a business. That's when I get risk, I can be risky with money for business, but when it comes to investments, if I get a loan on something, I pay things off, I almost never have a car payment, like to pay it off, own it, done. I don't like credit card debt. I never had revolving credit card debt. I'm extremely concerned. There are definitely, there were

definitely times when money was tight. And then what do I do? I just fucking save money and don't spend it on shit and eat at home. And if we're going gonna go out, then we'll go to the park and we're not gonna spend. So I have no problem doing that. And so for me, my ex-wife was also very responsible, very conservative. So on that end, we totally got along there. And then now with Jessica, Jessica's the same way. She's not frivolous.

She's got a great credit score. She's very responsible with her money. And so we totally jive on that. And again, I think that's important. I agree. Next question is from Nash Hayward. What is the greatest thing your mothers have taught you? Oh, and Louis mother's day. Yeah, yeah.

Shout out to other mommy's out there. One thing that my mom taught, I read this question, I thought, so many things that my mom, I have amazing mother. There's a few things that she taught me. I can think they're specifically to her. One is my mother is, she's just relentlessly there. She will be there and support her family always. And that is just so dependable

that it's not even a question, both my parents are like this. The other thing is that my mother just through, both through watching her and also the way she treated me, my mother taught me to always speak out against Injustice or when something's wrong to speak out against it. My mom is not a Loud person she could definitely get angry. You don't want to see her angry. You don't want to do that But she doesn't she's not a mad person. She doesn't yell whatever But the times I've ever seen her in public

speak out is when people are doing bad shit to other people. Then my mom becomes and my mom is normally, if you knew her, you think she's a very friendly person, you'd also, and once you got to know her really well, you'd see that she was timid in many ways and shy and she tends to be anxious for certain things, but I'll tell you what, dude, for in public, and some shit is happening that is not right. I don't care who's doing it. My mom becomes a lion and she's fearless, and she will speak out, and I learn that from her. I learn that from from her courageousness in that, and it's just something that now

is a part of who I am. And the third thing was she always let me argue in debate with her. My dad was very much, if he said it, that's it. It was like no use debating arguing. In fact, if you debated and argued too long, then it wouldn't be good. So my dad said something, there was no room. But my mom let me, she let me debate, she let me argue, and she that allowed me to hone my communication skills. I got really, really good at being able to argue my side.

And there were a few times when my mom said, you know what, you made a good point, I can see your point. She was, as a parent, you have to be humble like that. Like to be able to tell your kid that you were wrong, I learned that from my mom. And that's a very valuable lesson. I've done it a couple times when my kids were, I did something to them, or, you know,

I yelled a particular way. And then afterwards, I thought I was wrong. And you have this inner pride. We're like, well, I'm the parent. Like, I'm not going to say. Then, you know, it's good to show your kids humility. And go to them and be like, you know what? When I said that thing, I was wrong.

I shouldn't have done that. And my mom would do that. So she taught me that and she let me argue with her in debate. And so I developed better communication skills as a result of that. Yeah. I think the reason why it was a bit rocky

for me growing up with my mom was because we were so similar. You know, it was in terms of like being very stubborn and in pursuit of what I wanted to do or what she wanted or whatever process we had, we were very like adamant that that was the right way. And that's something that I've carried on to pursue things that really drive me. She's helped me along that way to find those things

and to really do it without anybody else's approval. Go that distance, go that path, and be as resilient as possible. And she also has a major, a major way of creating a network of people around her and really giving back to all those people. And she showed me like a lot of like how to build that sort of community. So she she does like an incredible amount of things for the school, for neighbors, for I mean, you you name it. It's not financially driven. It's just her physical self will show up at somebody's house and will help them with something in their time of need

And she's very very good at that and it showed me that and I've tried to embody that you know like characteristic as much as I can And that's something like even my wife and I have Have talked about like how she's always there like when You know something is like we need this thing like so bad or I'm gone or this she's always there to help out so very reliable and very but again the part of the stubbornness and the like that's at times we can clash and I see that. And so I'm trying to get better

at predicting that inevitable peak. And so we've actually got, we've got along like famously over the last few years and having kids has been a great part of that process to show. Now I have to teach my kids how to go through things and learn, how to do things the right way, where as I see them, where in their perspective, they see it, they might see it a different way, and we might battle about it, but at the end of the day, it leads them in the right direction.

I think that, from that, she's done a great job of steering me, but also, you know, being completely stern with, you know, her values. Tenacity. I think that if I, when I think of my mom, I think my zero fucks and never quit attitude definitely comes from her Because for everything that I've been through as far as a challenging childhood. I know that she's been 5X up From a child who ran away at 13 years old married by the time she was 17 years old losing her husband to suicide like my mom

Has I've never seen my mom quit ever ever ever, everything that we have been through, she has been through that I've seen. And I guess when you're going through it as a kid, you probably don't connect and realize that so much. I don't think I realize till I got older. I remember I wrote her this. I think it was on a mother's day actually. It was right after I had done that, the cover of the romance novel, and I gave that to her for Mother's Day. And on the front cover, or inside, I'd wrote a long old letter to her, and it was pretty much themed around this. And that was, I recognized that later in life, as I got older, one, as I had to work through a lot of the stuff that I had to forgive her for knowing that she did the best

that she could with what she was given. And as I've gotten older, I've realized like, holy shit, like man, that woman has been through a ton of shit. And when I think back to all that stuff, I never remember seeing my mom break down and being like, I just wanted to quit or give up or go to the bottle and start drinking or give up on us.

At the end of the day, she was always fighting for us because as a kid, because it wasn't how I wanted or it wasn't the way I liked, there was a lot of animosity and a lot of pushback between her and I as I was growing up. But as I've gotten older and I look back and I reflect on that. And then I also see my characteristics on what has made me successful as an individual. I go like, man, that's I just I don't think there's anything I there's nothing I don't believe I can do. I've always I'm always that person. I'm a person who puts something in front of me. I don't care what the fuck it is. If I set my mind to it, I 100% believe I can always do it. And

when I ask myself, where does that come from? It has to come from her. It comes from everything that I saw and her never, ever giving up and always pushing through all the way. When you think about even when she finished, my mom didn't finish her degree until she was in her late 30s, you know, but she was always chipping away at it even when we were kids, you know, and you know, she'd have another kid and then she'd have to cut back on school and then shit would happen. We have to move, she had to cut back on school again.

So she was like chipping away at units and units and units and it seemed like she should never get it done, but she did. She finally graduated, she walked, she got her teaching credentials, she became a teacher, like, but all that stuff happened way, way later in her life after we were, after we were long and gone. So to see her, to never have quit or never given up

on something, I would say that's probably the single greatest thing that my mom has taught me for sure. Yeah, that's awesome. In lieu of Mother's Day, moms really are special. I know dads are great also. We do amazing things also, but you know, there's a reason why a majority,

and this is just a real fact, statistic. A majority of single parents are moms. They hang around. They don't leave. They're there. And so they're the ones that are there doing it. And for you dads that are doing it, that's great. That's awesome as well. But shout out to the moms out there.

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