Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1043: Eating More to Speed Up Metabolism, How to Increase Work Capacity, Home Gym Essentials & MORE

Episode Date: May 31, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about speeding up metabolism by eating more calories and still doing cardio, training ability to recover and increase work capacity, essentials for a home gym, and lifting heavy after getting a deep tissue massage. Dr. Dre and Mac Cheese in the house! (3:45) How Seed tests their probiotics with a machine that acts like your gut! (5:40) Mind Pump ‘pop culture’ hour. (7:48) The crazy stats around ‘Digital Eye Syndrome’ and how Felix Gray glasses stand out above the crowd. (10:33) Video game addiction is officially a mental health disorder. (15:42) A nice way to intimidate the other side… UFOs reported by Navy pilots. (27:54) Sealed FBI audiotapes allege Martin Luther King Jr. had affairs with 40 women and watched while a friend raped a woman, a report claims. How we must separate the man from the art. (35:40) Have four or more babies in Hungary and you'll pay no income tax for life. (47:12) Everest death toll rises to 11 amid overcrowding concerns. (50:30) #Quah question #1 – Can you speed up your metabolism by eating more calories and still do cardio? Not overdo it, but just enough to maintain tightness. (54:06) #Quah question #2 – How do you train your ability to recover and increase work capacity? Why is this important? (1:03:51) #Quah question #3 – What are your essentials for a home gym? (1:11:09) #Quah question #4 – Is lifting heavy a bad idea after getting a deep tissue massage? (1:19:16) People Mentioned Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram Official Tom DeLonge (@tomdelonge)  Instagram Craig Capurso (@craigcapurso)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off!! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Visit Seed for the special offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit Felix Gray for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Ep. 1022: Raja Dhir- The Truth About Probiotics Video Game Addiction Mental Health Disorder Info | HYPEBEAST Joe Rogan Experience #1299 - Annie Jacobsen ‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects FBI tapes allege Martin Luther King Jr. watched a rape: report Hungary’s Orban wants to reverse his country’s shrinking population through tax breaks. That’s much easier said than done. Everest death toll rises to 11 amid overcrowding concerns - CNN How To Improve YOUR Work Capacity (6 MOVEMENTS) | MIND PUMP COUNTRY STRONG?? Increase YOUR Work Capacity (2 EXERCISES) | MIND PUMP Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Oh boy, guess what? What's that? It's mind-pump time. So it is. This episode we talk all about fitness, but before we do that, we do our introductory, fun time conversation. That lasted about 50 minutes.

Here's what we talked about. So in the beginning of the episode, we start out by talking about the simulator of human intestinal microbial ecosystem, this is a machine at the seed company, seed being one of the industry leaders in probiotics that simulates the digestive system of the body and it shows them that their product, their probiotic, makes it to the small intestines. That's what makes them one of the best companies out there for probiotics.

Now we are sponsored by Seed. If you go to Seed.com-myimpump and use the code Myimpump, you'll get 20% off your first month supply of the daily symbiotic. Then we talked about how 50 to 90% of computer users have digital eye strain. This is characterized by dry eyes, neck pain, headaches. I didn't know it was that much, so we kind of tripped over that. But we did talk about how you can use blue blocking glasses to help prevent some of those symptoms.

One of our favorite companies for blue blocking glasses is Felix Gray. They makes blue blockers for day and night use. If you go to Felix Gray Glasses, GraySpellGRAY, glasses.com, ForkstashMindPump, you'll get free shipping and free returns.

Then we talk about video game addiction and how it's an official mental health disorder named by the World Health Organization. It's a real thing. We talked about UFOs and how Navy pilots are reporting them like crazy. We talked about the controversy or the purported controversy. We probably think it might be fake coming out about Martin Luther King, Jr. We talked about hungry's new tax policy. Apparently, if you have a lot of kids there, you don't pay any income taxes.

And then Justin brought up Mount Everest and how it's getting crowded up there, but not with live bodies. Then we get in the fitness portion of this episode. The first question, can you speed up your metabolism by eating more calories and not doing anything else? In other words, if I'm not lifting weights to speed up my metabolism,

I'm just doing lots of cardio, but I also bump my calories, is that going to positively influence my metabolism? The next question, how do you train your ability to recover and increase your work capacity? Is there a way to work out so that you get faster recovery and so that you can work out more? The next question, what are the essentials that we consider you should get if you have

a home gym, and the final question is lifting heavy weights a bad idea right after a really deep tissue massage. Also, there's one day left, 24 hours left, for the 50% off sale on Maps Hit. Remember, Hit stands for high intensity interval training. This is our fitness program that is designed to burn maximum amount of body fat in a short period of time. It's programmed expertly with barbell complexes, dumbbell complexes, and body weight type movements. And there's three levels for beginners, intermediate and advanced.

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Do it. No, no, no, maybe it's time to get in shape Maybe it's time to get off your sweet ass Santa for a fitness program That's all by itself another class Maps fitness baby Bro cut me off straight fire No, bro, son. Wow. I wow try to lay down some tracks. I saw Adams panties were coming down Working on my smoothness that was so good bro. Thanks man. I was so good. Yeah, I mean South wrote the lyrics. I can't take That's true. I wrote the lyrics. He said I

Dr. Dre here. Yeah. Yeah. Dr. Nobice. Couldn't have beats together. Oh, shit. Bro, this morning when Justin, because we got that auto tune app or whatever and Justin, no, you were doing your interview.

So Justin and I were out there and I'm like, do you listen to this? It's right a sweet, sweet jam right now. It's right, sorry, we're out of here. That's what came out. Dr. Dre and Mac cheese. Oh, a job. Mac cheese. Mac cheesy.

Mac cheesy. Mac cheesy. Mac cheese up in the house. It was so good. Yeah. It was a good time. Oh, I'm seeing, now I'm nervous you can get picked up from us. You know, it's just gonna be me and Sal.

I mean, I was just, you know, just wrapped a cuff, like imagine, you know, by the time. That's if you had like a real studio. It was just like, yeah, I'd lay it down all day. That's how he goes home to his wife, he's like, hey, baby, I gotta play something for you. I gotta play something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up, baby?

Anyway. Anyway, it was so good. Dude, so I wanted to tell you guys that I did not know this. Remember when we interviewed the CEO of seed and he talked about how they test their probiotic and it's one of the only probiotics that actually reaches where it's supposed to go because most of them get destroyed by the stomach. I didn't know that.

I didn't know that. Yes. I remember when he did say that though. Well, think about it. Like if you have a lot of these probiotics need to be refrigerated and he made the point is like if it doesn't, if we can't live in your bedroom outside of the fridge, it ain't going to survive your stomach. Yeah, it ain't going to survive that whole process. But there's apparently, um, apparently does. And what they have

is they have this huge machine because you know, I told you guys that there's like the leaders in research, they have like some of the top researchers of the world on microbiome science. Well, they have this big machine that they call, I don't know if it's pronounced shine or shimmy, but it stands for a simulator of the human intestinal microbial ecosystem. So it's this big simulation machine that they'll put their

probiotic through. And they'll act like you're gut. Yeah, it's like you're gut. Oh, wow. And they found that over 90 to 94% of their probiotic was released in the small intestines, which is where they want it to go. And the way they do this is they have this like which is where they want it to go. And the way they do this is they have this like, this probiotic inner capsule and outer capsule that protects it through the digestive process and delivers it where it needs to go. But how cool is that?

They have this big machine that they'll drop a probiotic in there and see where it actually ends up, which I think is really cool. So the machine like artificial, like whole digestive process? Yes, and I don't know what it looks like. Yeah, and is it poop?

Yeah, it puts stuff in it and it comes out the end and is it? I would imagine so. It's an artificial poop machine. I'm still getting tagged on shares from that episode. Oh yeah, that episode is so far. Speaking of poop machines, you didn't have a sister Justin, but Adam,

did your younger sisters ever get the baby alive dolls? Do you remember those? No. My sister was a fanatic for dolls, and so when baby alive came out, she lost her mind. That's what she wanted. This is all I wanted. I just want that. That's the one that actually peed and poop. Yeah you feed it. I remember that. And it would take a shit in the diaper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then she'd

be all excited. Oh my baby pooped. Yeah. Let's clean it. Yeah. I don't get like people talk about the differences between boys and girls. Boy let me tell you little boys don't typically want more responsibilities Part of the point You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know what's exciting about that. I don't know. I want to I want to baby that poops So yeah, you don't you actually don't have Chuckie Speaking of which child's plays coming out again. Is it yes? Yes. No way. Is it a remake or prequel? What is it supposed to be? That's funny.

I don't know if it's a remake, but it's just called child's play. So there's no like part two, part four, whatever. I was at the movies with my son. We watched John Wick 3. Yep. I watched that last night. You watched John Wick 3? Yeah, I watched it.

Yeah. Tell me that wasn't the most ridiculous. It was so, like, it was funny. It was like amusing. Like the other two actually had a little bit of plot. This one had no plot. It was like all just killing and like slashing and just like killing everyone.

Just destroyed the world. Fuck everyone up. Shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh. The fight scenes, the fight scenes, it harkens back to 1990s action movies. Yeah. That's why I like it so much. I mean, it was definitely entertaining, but it was like so, like some of the dialogue with the play.

When he's feeling like I was so bad, yeah, I was just laughing. We were having fun. People actually in the theater were like joking and laughing with it. That's what we were doing. Yeah, I mean, my son and I were cracking up. But anyway, they showed a trailer for Childs Play with Chuckie and everything, and I'm like, like in the beginning, it's kind of, you can't tell it's Childs Play,

but then I started to figure it out because you hear the, you know, the laugh, and then you see the little character, and I'm like, oh, fuck. Oh, here he comes. Here we go. You can't tell if it's a remake or it's supposed to be what it's supposed to be.

I couldn't tell by the trailer. And because they just called it Childs Play, I don't know. Well, that's interesting. I mean, I could see because they brought back it, right? So maybe they're gonna go through all these Well, that's interesting. I mean, I could see because they brought back it right so yes Maybe they're gonna go through all these old like horror movies. There's a part pop. There's a part two to it coming out Is there really yeah, there's another part of it? I never watched the first this you do pet cemetery Yeah, I never watched the original it and I never watched the remake. Did you watch either one? I watched the original

Yeah, is it good? Oh, I mean it's It's kind of cheesy now watching the new one, but yeah, it still holds up. So what? I want to check it out. Anyway, what were you talking about some statistics about ice strain? Oh, because I got my, so I just ordered the new,

I got another pair of Felix Grasio, and I'm getting a little ridiculous with these, but they came out with this new stylish pair that are their kelvins and they're all clear. So I wanted something a little ridiculous with these, but they came out with this new stylish pair that are their kelvins and they're all clear. So I wanted something a little more stylish than the gnashes that I wear right now, which I like a lot. I really like them, but this is something that I can wear with.

You know what I found the stats though. This was the Rachel Synthes II as in you were talking about these stats. This is what I was referring to. This is crazy. The percentage of people that actually have on screen. No, it's crazy. Yeah. So the American optometric association estimates that 50 to 90% of computer users, which is everybody, have symptoms of what's

known as computer vision syndrome. Did you guys even know that that was a thing that they call computer vision syndrome? I remember the very first meeting that I had with them and they mentioned it in conversation, the importance of it and what motivated them to start the company. Yeah, that's a real thing. Which is why I think we're seeing them pop up everywhere now. You've seen a lot of other influencer buddies and stuff that are starting to promote all these other brands. Again, it's why I was so pumped that we have somebody like Taylor who can vet

a company and court them for six months plus before we do any sort of business with them. And I really think that we have the best of the best that we're working with. Well, so look at these stats, right? So first off, digital ice syndrome is ice strain headaches, blurred vision, dry eyes, neck and shoulder pain. And check, this is pretty weird here, or this is kind of interesting. 57% of baby boomers have it, or report having it.

63% of generation Y, 70% for millennials. And I can only imagine what the, oh, already. It can only imagine what the younger generation is. Well, it's just, they grew up with it. Yeah, well, it just, it's a, I mean, I saw the stat too, that the average American is spending seven and a half hours in front of a screen, a day.

That's fucking insane. That's a lot. It's a job. Yeah, well, I mean, just think of your lives, case, I mean, I didn't have a computer until I was 20. So the first 20 years of my, and the phones that we had then were at best, I mean, I didn't even have a phone until, like, I had pictures.

Yeah. So what screen were you, I mean, maybe a little bit of TV time during the week, but for an hour or two. Or a Game Boy, but it was like that crappy yellow, like tiny screen. Yep. Right. I mean, so think about how much total screen time that you were probably spending as just a young

adult and child, maybe an hour or two at best. And you probably go days, maybe sometimes weeks with zero or none. Well, the type of light that's emitted by electronic devices is, they've known now that it's not good for your eyes. It's actually quite damaging. And some, there's some alarming studies out there to be quite honest with you. They're not conclusive, but they're piling up

and they're quite alarming, showing permanent damage to the eyes. I predict this, I predict it will be standard, like your company, wherever you work, if you work in front of a computer, it'll be part of what, what they do is- I safety. Yeah, exactly.

They're gonna require you to wear blue blocking glasses or put a blue blocking screen in front of a computer. A Facebook, Google, who else? They all signed with Google. Apple, yeah, Apple, Google, yeah. Yeah, of course. They're all partnered up with them,

and I'm sure it'll come to a point where it's mandatory. What's the thing, and I always forget to mention it because whenever we talk about Felix Gray, what is the thing that your company has? The, it's not a- Well, health savings account. Right, so it's not tax deductible, right?

It's no, it's tax-free. Yeah, money you put in there that doesn't get taxed and then you can use that money for health times. Then it goes away if you don't use it, right? I believe so. Yeah, I don't want to look into that. And a lot of companies have this, right? What's it? It's HCA or FCA? HSA. HSA? Is it HSA account? I thought there was two different ones. I thought there was another one too. I remember him bringing it up. But you can use that to buy Felix Gray glasses because they consider it you know under that category or whatever. But I do predict that in the near future,

if your job involves being in front of a computer screen, that your company will require you to wear blue blocker glasses or they will put the screen in front of the computer that blocks blue light or something. Because now that studies are coming out showing that it's damaging to your eyes is damaging first of all it's damaging to productivity because if you feel like shit you're not going to be as productive but if studies which they are showing that it's actually damaging like a real world damaging they're going to want to

cover their asses because once the studies come out then of course they open themselves up to where employees think which is why why the Google's, the Apple's, all these forward thinking companies are already on it. So I think it's another growing trend that I think we're on the front end of that we're gonna see, you're gonna see. And that's a remote digital wellness, right? No, I can 100% agree.

Yep, yep. And on that note, the World Health Organization just announced that video game addiction is an official... I shared that actually on my story. It's an official mental health disorder. Crazy. Video game addiction, they name it. Yeah, officially.

Mm-hmm. Wow. And by the way, it's kind of an obvious thing, but for them to acknowledge that is pretty a big deal. Well, I mean, it's not, so I wanna be clear, if you play a lot of video games and you love video games, you don't have video game addiction video game addiction. You're a normal kid. Yeah, video game addiction is when it starts to interfere your whole life.

Yeah, it interferes with regular life. They were talking about some cases where kids would play 15 or 20 hours straight of video games where they wouldn't eat and where it really has the characteristics of an addiction. You know where it really hit home for me. So I was a gamer, quote unquote, for a long time. And for me, I actually started when I hit about 27. And up until 27, this was like, you know, and my best friend lived with me in our mid and early 20s when I got my place. And so we had the bachelor pad and it was like

We used to say this all the time when we were like dating girls like no girl is gonna get in between our gaming time Wow, you really you really said that yeah We see bros bros bros totally that guy hundred percent admit that and We and I believed and I remember people used to tell me when I was younger like oh when you get older You're not gonna play video games like you play me. I'm like bullshit. I it's one of my favorite pastimes I love doing it my best friends and I bond doing it and you're in your 20s Yeah, I'm in my 20. I'm in my mid to late 20s and and I used to have a a good really close friend of mine That was a good five years older than me and he used to always always tease me when he got grow up and stop playing video games.

I'm like, oh, fuck you. Well, I've, you know, I've got a six figure job. I have my house. I go, oh shit. And I play video games. Fuck you. You know, saying like that was kind of like my head. I just chip on my shoulder that I could be successful and still have all this stuff going

for me. And at one point, the, the halo, it was, I think it was halo too was out. So whatever year that is, people can try I think it was Halo 2 was out. So whatever year that is, people can try and figure out the timeline of this story. I just started getting nauseous. I couldn't, the first player, and I played those games my whole life. Now all of a sudden at 27, I get like just so nauseous, I have to vomit. Oh, like motion sickness.

Yes. And I thought the first time that I was sick I thought oh wow I must be coming down the flu. I went through up came back on the couch to play again And I was like oh, I can't play anymore. I must be sick lay down Slip it off was fine and then like the next two or three times in a row that I tried to play I started to realize that it was from the video game This was happening and that was the beginning of the end for video

Now I could still play other games than I did for a while. And I remember my buddy constantly still teasing me. The thing that I noticed about it being somebody who I would say, I don't know if I would say I was addicted because I still had a life. I still had a lot of things going from me. But what it did do no matter what, even if I wasn't addicted to where it was like hurting me, it, it took up the time if I wasn't addicted to where it was like hurting me, it took up the time that I've used today to grow and better myself and excel in other aspects

of life. You know, I mean, it would consume two hours of my night every night, sometimes more, and weekends I could spend six hours straight playing with my buddies. And now that I wasn't doing that, I had to find other things to fill that space. And that's where kind of reading started to happen for me. And I think that was the biggest thing with that was it was sure it wasn't so bad that it was an addiction. And it was unhealthy or I wasn't able to have relation.

I had all those things. But boy, did the freeing up that time to do things that would better myself. Boy, did that really, sorry, my friend. It's entertainment. And entertainment has a certain amount of value, but it also can be overdone and it can crowd out things that provide more value.

Now, if you're sitting there playing with your friends and you guys are bonding over it, there's some value to that, but it could also get out of hand. I look, I notice, I noticed that recently, we were just on a trip and I saw it again. We were on a trip recently with our kids and my son, if I don't like literally police him,

he'll be on his phone or on playing video games until I tell him to stop. He'll literally, and it changes his behavior. It does it to my daughter too, although she's not as fanatical about it, but it'll change his behavior. It'll make him super absorbed in what he's doing and disconnected from everything

and everyone around him. And I have to get to the point where I have to get mad and be like, I have to take it from him. I'm taking your phone, you're off of it. And then there's like a two hour period where he's just irritated that took his phone. And then all of a sudden, he comes out and he's like, hanging out with everybody, talking in the world, having a good, and it's a scary,

it's really such an obvious switch. Like, I noticed when my kids are on video games or on their phones or on TV, if I leave them on too long, and then I try to engage with them, they're snappy, irritable, they're just not pleasant to be around. When I take them off, there's a withdrawal period, and then it's like, oh, there you are, like you're cool again.

Well, it's a little worrisome to me, because I do, I see the same behavioral things with my kids as they play, but like, because now the game's like a Minecraft or a Roblox or, you know, whatever these popular games are where it's like this expansive world that has like so many possibilities

where they can just build, they can see their friends in there, like they can, you know, attack zombies, like they're just, the creative freedom is almost endless. And you just get so sucked into that environment because it's like, I mean, if I was a kid, I'd have fucking love that. Oh my God.

You know, it's like, I wouldn't survive today. No, it's like it's so engaging. It's a lot of times, what I worry about is the virtual reality that's coming that will'll make it like this is actually better for me in here than real life. Like real life sucks. Like I just wanna hang out here and I could see like kids really getting sucked into that

and like it'd become a problem. Oh no, and I mean, as a dicting as TV was when we were kids, just multiply it times a million because these games are so interactive. And so it's gonna be, look, it's like anything else, you have to just like look process food when that first came out. It's like, you know, it was, it's easier to not overeat

when you're not eating foods that are designed to make you overeat, to an extent where it's almost not fair. Well, what's happening with video games and digital products, apps and social media and all that stuff for adults even, is that they're engineered like processed foods were to make you over-consumed, to keep you on, to keep you checked in. And so you have to develop practices around that.

And what happens with kids is they are young and they don't know how to develop those practices. And so it's hard, it's hard as a parent because you have to be an asshole sometimes and you have to deal with, because here's a deal, sometimes you're at home and you'd rather your kids be quiet and just play video games or whatever

because now you're not dealing with the noise and the complaints and what are we doing? What's going, but you gotta deal with it sometimes. So it's a constant struggle, definitely a con. But every time I see the difference between my kids when they're on it a lot, when they're not, it always makes me shake my head like, wow, that is. It's a powerful thing.

Dude, it's so, I mean, you have to treat it as such. I mean, you can see we were on this trip, like I said, my son was on his phone for the first half, the second half I took him off of a totally different kid. Yeah. And it's crazy, it's absolutely crazy to me. I imagine it's tough as a parent to like the fuck, because you also don't want to be the parent who doesn't allow him to play like I had some of my favorite times when I was

a kid. We're playing video games with my buddies and I look at where I'm at in my life today and I think I made it okay. Like, you know, I wasn't like it didn't fuck me up as an as an adult. Yeah. So, you know, like where do you draw the line? And we had, trust me, we had some, I mean, as a kid, I remember that I was just with my best friend this last weekend and we actually did fire up

the old game console and play. And I haven't played and probably the last time you ever heard me mention on this podcast was probably a couple of years ago. And we played and it was a good time. And while we were playing, we were actually sharing memories of like, did you remember when we used to hold up for a whole weekend and then the

how many hours I was like playing Zelda, we would order pizza and not leave the bedroom. And there would be pizza boxes and sodas lining the entire room like up on the window seal and all the other. Yeah, that's and we would eat pizza and Pepsi and just play video games like around the clock for all of Saturday and Sunday. Here's where I think the problems arise from that. You're right, it didn't fuck you up. And I watched TV all the time.

I was not a video game fanatic, but my parents used to have to kick me off the TV because they still love, and I would watch educational shit. I would watch documentary and stuff like that. But I would be on the TV for out. If you left me, I could do it from morning till evening and I'm not fuck up either.

But I do notice this. I do notice that I have a very tough time focusing. I do notice that I tend to be scatterbrained in a little ADD and I think that's probably what we got from it. What we probably got from it is that we lost the ability to, we can hyper focus or not that we lost the ability to, we can hyper focus or not. We lost the ability to pay attention

to things around us to be present, or at least it wasn't practiced as much, because we were always on this device or whatever that was just driving our attention. And so that's what I find now. And I find it hard to be to not do anything. Like try standing aligned without your phone and just looking around,

or not reading when you're in the bathroom or whatever. Yeah, you know, that's right. Actually, yeah, actively trying to do that. It's tough, man. Like, just being in line for coffee or whatever, and I'm just like staring at the wall, I'm staring at people's clothes, I'm staring at, you know, whatever's on writing, you know, somewhere like a painting over there.

It's like, what do you do to entertain your mind? And then it starts kind of working out these things, these ideas I've been, you know, thinking about. So it actually, it's a good practice, but it's tough because it's like, it's tough to be bored, man. Well, this is why I think meditation is on the rise because we don't realize this, but the day has all these little micro meditation moments

that we are slowly everybody is starting to eliminate and we don't even realize it. So a practice that maybe many people didn't think twice about and was never a part of their life are finding a lot of necessity and because they've eliminated those moments, you know, you stand in a line, you wait for something to download, you do all these different things that throughout your

day where you in the past would be by yourself in yourself, in your own thoughts. And that and it's even if it's a short window of a two minute wait in a line, it's somewhat meditative, right? Because you are thinking about your day and you're thinking about what you got going on. Or you're just being present. Right, being present. And that's now been taken away because we always have our phones that were attached to. We have filled every space with something.

Every single space. We don't know how to be bored anymore. And I noticed this, like when I do these short trips, like the one we were just on at your semity, I was on electronics very, very minimally compared to what I normally use. Yeah. I was in on my phone at all, except to clear out my DMs

and all that stuff. And it feels good. When I come back, I'm like refreshed and then I realize, oh wow, I need to do that on a semi-regular basis. Yeah, anyway. And it's tough man. I know as a parent, if you're listening, it's hard.

Especially if you're a single parent. Like, I get my kids half the time, right? So the other half the time they're with their mom, they come see me half the time. And it makes it hard for me because I don't wanna be an asshole to half the time they're with me. You know what I'm saying? I just like, oh, I haven't seen you for a week now,

I wanna be, but now I gotta tell you, give me your phone, don't watch TV. And I remind them all the rules. Yeah, exactly. It's like, yes, tough. It's pretty, it sucks, but anyway. Dude, did you guys see that article I shared on UFOs? Are you guys into UFO kind of stuff?

Not real. Yeah, I mean, he's probably more than I am. I am kind of, I mean, I was actually just listening to a podcast, Joe Rogan had this lady on that was talking about a different type of conspiracy. It mainly being around Stalin and his propaganda, like Area 51, that was part of some kind of conspiracy where he was trying to like implant this,

this thought that aliens actually existed through propaganda and then like they had these like propaganda wars between the two and it was a different angle on the whole aliens, you know, area 51 thing and I thought that was kind of interesting. Well, I don't, so I knew it because area 51, we thought, oh, there was an alien spacecraft that crashed there and it's not,

but then we learned later on, that's actually where they were making super secret, like aircraft, like the Blackbird. You know, things that could fly, they'd super classified all that. Yeah, and what they did is they put out bullshit information stories so that people didn't think that there was actual Navy or or army stuff there that was oh those UFO stuff. So it's kind of that counter intelligence type of thing

Right, but I'm reading this article in the New York Times and These are they're interviewing people in the Navy lieutenants for example and pilots who are saying oh no We see shit in videotapes, and they release some of this stuff. We see weird, unexplained aerial phenomena all the time, where there are these flying, we don't know what's that are moving extremely fast or changing directions. And I'm watching, there's videos. You can actually watch the videos of these recordings.

And they stay in the air for 11 hours or 12 hours. And he's like, we do the math. At the type of energy recordings and they stay in the air for 11 hours or 12 hours and he's like, you know, we do the math at the type of energy you would need to generate to move that fast and to produce those aerial maneuvers and they shouldn't be able to last longer than an hour. And these things are up there for 11 hours. One F18 Hornet pilot almost got hit by one of these flying UFOs where it flew so close to them it almost them, and then it changed directions. Oh, damn. And these are all, like, this is all decl... these are all people talking about it now, like

this happened in 2014, 2015. Crazy, right? Yes. So, for me, like, to follow along, like, more of a rational train of thought, if I eliminate aliens from that, then you start thinking about drone technology and how they had that way, way, way before we have it now today. And they were fucking with people with that in terms of like showing like spacecraft and all that.

To where now what technology they're working on through like a lot of their like through DARPA and all that is like 25 years way beyond. That's right, Matt. Right. So it's like, of course, like they're gonna throw it out there and experiment, you know, to see if it works

and people are gonna see it. So I don't know, that's, that's, I lean more in that direction than I do aliens. That's what I think. That's a hundred percent where I'm at. Yeah, I think it's a military like high, high super secret high tech military. Right. How many times do we,

we hear about the latest greatest, you know, thing that the, that we've created and it's like, then we find out that they had been building that. Yeah, they invented that 40 years ago. Yeah, and it's we just now is the general population get to see it. And so if you're, you know, just some, you know, F-16 or F-18 fighter pilot and you're out on a routine flight, like, you don't get all the classified shit. You know what you

know about that? Yeah, you don't get to know about that stuff. So sure, maybe you do see some things like that and then it doesn't make sense to you because you're not downloaded all the information. Well, remember when Desert Storm, that was the first Iraqi war, that's when we unveiled the stealth fighters and stealth bombers. That was the first time the public saw these jets that- And weren't they building that like in the 50s or 60s? Like in the 70s and 60s, right? That technology had been spying on everybody before. They only unveiled it because they found them. They would have kept going and not like you told anybody about it.

Well, sometimes I think we envial thing and we show things to intimidate the super power. So like, we got to say, Rack War, let's show them a little bit of what we, some of our old shit that we have or whatever. So if you think about it, it's the last year's model. A chunk of junk. So if you think about it like year's model. A chunk of junk. So if you think about it, like these unidentified flying objects that these pilots are seeing that are moving at like supersonic or faster speeds that are changing crazy directions that are doing all this crazy stuff, maybe like you guys are saying, it's a US military thing. We're letting them see it on purpose so that it gets out in the news so that our enemies in this, you know,

the Russians or the Chinese, they know what's going on. They're like, oh, okay. They got some crazy shit. They're trying to show us, but they're pretending like they don't know what I'm saying. It'd be a nice little way to intimidate the opposing side. I can get down with that. I can get down with that theory. It kind of crazy, right? I would love to know what they have. Well, maybe I wouldn't, I don't know. Tom DeLong is all in. You know, that guy from Blinkway II, he's super commissar's aliens

and like trying to work with government officials. I feel like if aliens exist, they're visiting us, their technology would be so crazy advanced that we would know anything. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I've trained clients that have worked for NASA, that have worked for NORAD, that have worked like that have had.

And they've told me that there is so much stuff that they can't discuss with their wife and obviously me that is so beyond what I would think. And that to me is already enough. And so they're like, there's so much, there's stuff out there. They have to be classified stuff that you will never hear about or you don't know about.

Well, how much money do we spend on our military? 15 years ago. Yeah, how big is our military budget? So you guys know? Stupid. Yeah, he passed the trillions. What's next? Yeah, it's massive.

I don't remember the exact, let me find out what the number is here. It's a massive, massive, massive amount. Quadrillion. I'm still mad. It's a massive, massive, massive amount. Quadrillion. I'm still mad that we have a, we've learned, we've built a spaceship that can go to the moon, land on the moon, and return itself, and land back on Earth.

But yet we can't get a fucking car to drive more than 100,000 miles without the transmission. Bussies. Now that's engineered in. That is fucking bullshit, bro. People make money on the surface. Why does my iPhone, every new iPhone, I buy super high speed and then exactly one year later,

all the sudden, they want you to buy new ones. Well, actually, let's talk about that conspiracy. Here's the truth. Here's the truth. That stuff does exist. The problem is that it would cost more money than you would be. Bullshit.

Bro, let me put it in place. Bullshit. We spend, so put it, okay, we spend over, okay, on paper, it's something like almost a trillion dollars that we spend on the military. But the real amount of money that we spend is more than that, because there's a lot of shit we don't see, there's a lot of this money that doesn't. Right, that's all that shit that's tracked. They have to show all the receipts to.

Yep, yep. So yeah, A's gonna take a piece. It's four X, yeah, four X times that, that's all undercover. That's all, yeah, yeah, it's gonna take a piece for X Yeah, that's all undercover. That's all undercover. So it's gonna take this piece Well, we spend more on our military than the next I don't know 10 countries combined Like you know what I'm saying? It's insane. So I can't even imagine I would I'll tell you what though I would never want to work for those organizations and know that shit because you know

that they would just spy on you all the time to make sure you don't tell anybody. Of course. You know what I'm saying? You have to be paranoid as fuck. Every time you run the internet, don't tell me. Look at porn, you're like,

fuck, John, those exact- The X's bliss. So, bro, speaking of that, did you read the Martin Luther King thing, dude? Oh yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, they hurt my heart. Well, so we should let the audience kind of know

a little bit of backstory here. So Martin Luther King, Jr., the civil rights leader, obviously American hero, he was spied on quite a bit by the FBI for a few different reasons. One, he was the leader of a counter-culture at the time movement, and this was during the height of the Cold War. So any threat, you know, the FBI, or even the CIA was like, we need to like monitor any all threats because the Soviet Union's big, and they could be infiltrating these counter culture movements and that stuff.

Was it that or was it that he was friends with Communists? Well, that was also so he was actually a Republican. He was a pro, you know, freedom kind of guy himself, but he led a lot of people and he was one of his associates, apparently, they thought was a Communist. So anyway, nonetheless, nonetheless, it's bullshit. The guy shouldn't have been surveyed like that, but they did, and they used to bug his hotel rooms and follow him around, and then there's the infamous note that was written to him by the FBI,

where the FBI said, hey, we have all this evidence that you've been cheating on your wife with all these people. We suggest that you commit suicide. That's something that people say actually happens because they wanted them out of the picture and they wanted to use kind of blackmail. But anyway, there's this journalist who apparently has access to these audio recordings and written recordings by CAA and FBI agents on Martin Luther King.

And now these recordings are gonna be released in 2027 because there's a period of time for things to stay classified and then they'll either get released or they'll be reclassified and then extend. So in 2027 these things are supposed to be released. This journalist apparently has access to some of this stuff and he's saying that Martin Luther King had upwards of 40 affairs Participated in orgies and here's the crazy part apparently there was an audio recording of one of his

Martin Luther King's associates raping someone. He was a pastor a pastor and Martin Luther King being in the room and Not stopping it and even laughing at the whole thing. Now this is all right now. There's no evidence of this, but the person who's saying that this happened is a pull-it-surprise winning Journalist I believe so it's not like it's someone without any credibility, but fuck man if that's true I read it on like a business insider. It's not some of the it's not like Buzzfeed right those bullshit fucking articles. Yeah Oh, if this is true, man, that's gonna be devastating. That's that he's he's one of my heroes I know, you know, I mean he's a pioneer of civil disability civil nonviolent disobedient. This is this is a big The beginning of this this and man that's that's back then. It's gonna be fucking crazy 20 years from now

Yeah, if you're somebody you don't even need to have some a spy on you That's back then. It's going to be fucking crazy 20 years from now. If you're somebody, you don't even need to have some of spy on you. Yeah, if you're releasing all this information about yourself. In politics or you're a public figure at all, how many people are going to get crucified for the things that they did 20 years, 15 years, 30 years earlier?

To be fair, the affairs part, find whatever, if it really was in a room, while it was pasture was raping someone, that's totally, that's a whole lot of it. I 100% agree with that. Like, I don't, infidelity to me is, I mean, it's so widely rampant. It's a human flaw.

Right, it is, it is a human flaw. And it's, in some way good, but it's not. Yeah, it's some will even argue that it's our animal instinct and nature to be this way, which is comes from all the people that believe in the open relationship. So when it comes to like, infidelity and that stuff,

like I don't, that to me, whatever. If you have an overarching message that's helping us as a whole, like Martin Luther King's mission, I don't really care about if he was promiscuous or not, but like you said, standing by why somebody gets raped is a, that's a whole different ball. That's a whole different, and that's what the guy says

that the FBI agents recorded happening. So I don't know if this is gonna be real, if it's gonna come out, but right now, it's kinda making some waves. But apparently, all this information is supposed to be released in 2027. All these audio recordings and stuff that they do.

Do you think they'll comment from his estate either, huh? No, no. I mean, the guy, look, regardless of whatever happened, and I'm not saying if he did that, that means, you know, that doesn't mean he's a bad person. I think he'd be a terrible person if that happened. But it doesn't discredit the good things that happen because of other things that he did. And again, I'm not saying the guy is good or bad. I'm just saying, he, I want people to understand that like, you know, people can be, and this is just

humans can be really fucking evil and use good shit also, which is really weird and hard to say Oh, it's hard to wrap to understand a rapper. Oh, it's crazy that this is coming out right now And it's following the conversation that we just had a what a couple days ago on Tony Robbins You know, you know regardless of what he said or did you know 20 years ago agree with a disagree with a true not true I mean, there's no you can't argue that he's fundamentally impacted, you know, millions of people for the good that have helped them that doesn't necessarily make him a good human himself. Maybe he did stuff that was bad. Also, I mean, I look at the same way that I look at even like professional athletes.

Like I always, I always laugh with my buddies and I were recently debating some sports stuff and you know, my buddy was throwing out things about his character and I'm like, this is not a, we're having a sports debate right now. We are debating statistics, what he did in sports. I don't give a fuck about his personal life. I'm not, this isn't, I'm not, I'm not arguing that he's a great man and a great person we should look up to. I'm saying he's the best at this or he's a great man and a great person we should look up to. I'm saying he's the best at this or he's the best at that.

And I think we have to learn to separate that when we talk about people like this, like, you know, hands down what he did was incredible. What do you know? I don't care. And he could have also done some really bad things. So we have to be able to separate that. People have a hard time being. Yeah, very slow to that.

Yeah, that's what I'm skeptical of. Like anybody that's in I'm skeptical of anybody that's in a very moral high position, and really projecting that morality on everybody else. Like I'm always like, oh really? It makes you so self-righteous. So anyway, that's always red flags for me, but yeah, it's tough though when you get somebody

that's a very historically important, awesome human being and then you find shit about them. You're like, I don't know that. What'll happen is it'll create this kind of debate of, you know, where people will discredit the stuff that he did that was good. Maybe, like, oh, that means that, you know, what he did wasn't it.

No, you can't do that. Yeah, and again, people are, we're not good and we're not bad, we're both. We do good and bad shit. And obviously if you did that, that would have been a totally evil, despicable thing. But if we take it back a little bit, you know, people, we do good and bad things all the time,

it's super complex, but our brains, we like to put people in categories. Yeah. And that's why it's so shocking and shattering, but you're right, something like this, man, if this turned out to be true, that'll be, I'll be devastated personally. Because this is again, this is a person

that I've considered one of my heroes since I was a kid. Because again, he exemplified nonviolent civil disobedience which requires a tremendous amount of courage to do. And it's actually one of the most effective ways to make things happen. This is why I have a hard time even with the question like that when people ask, like, oh, do you, who is your hero growing up or who do you have heroes like? Totally.

It's, I've, I've always struggled with that because I didn't have any really, you know, and I, I've never really idolized somebody, especially somebody who's famous or well known for something because again, something that I've definitely pieced together in my short journey on this earth is the more exceptional that somebody is at a single thing, the more dysfunction they have other places in their life. It's what made them great at whatever that one thing is, is their whole life has been dedicated to being, to selling at a single thing,

that it's almost inevitable that there's gonna be out of balance somewhere else in their life. And that could be morally, it could be with relationships, it could be their own character, whatever. But more often than not, this is what I have found in my life. Well here's the other side of this that a lot of people aren't talking about. So let's just say that that did happen, and Martin Luther King was in the room and didn't

stop this pastor from doing that horrible thing. There were FBI agents that were listening and they didn't stop. They didn't stop. They didn't do that. They didn't stop. And now we get into this weird, complex situation where does that make them also bad? Now, in my opinion, yes, I don't give a fuck what your job is, you see something that's going, and this happens all the time with law enforcement.

Well, they watch terrible shit going on and they'll let it happen because they're trying to build a case or do something else. The truth is, people think that in action is not contributing, that's not true. When you're standing by and not doing anything, you're allowing something to happen, and that's something you have to tackle within yourself.

So I think the fact that if this happened that this woman that it wasn't stopped and that she wasn't avenged by law enforcement, that's fucked up. That's an interesting point that you bring up. It's true. I mean, our laws are set though to protect that, right, or make that happen. For example, if you're investigating somebody for something that has nothing to do with them being a sex offender at all, and they're recording and they're bugging them, they're actually

supposed to, it's not a missable in court. They can't take that evidence because it has nothing to do with why they got the warrant for the bug in the first place. And so if you're listening for whatever said reason, and just because they talk about, or they do something else that could be criminal, or talk about something else, it's not admissible in court

because that's not what they're being bugged for. I totally get, I scratch it. Yeah, those laws, I understand those laws, I know where they come from, but as a human being, right, right. You know what I mean? You're watching something, you're like, okay,

well my job says I can't do anything about this, but somebody's getting hurt right now. I'm just surprised. What the fuck? I would fascinate me as how that didn't surf how this hasn't surfaced earlier. Oh, it was, it's all sealed, you know, in front, apparently this guy got access to it somehow, but it's just listen to the tape. It was all hidden like, it not hidden, but no one has access to it.

And again, it's supposed to be released. But it's crazy. I would think that even like the girl who got raped or her best friend or her sister or her mom or her aunt. Well, she might have never said anything. Maybe. Right. I just, that's what I find fascinating though. It's like, or crazy to me. It's just a fascinating, it's crazy to me that, you know, the amount of people that were potentially involved in it or rounded or connected to those people. How does something

like this stay suppressed for that long? That's crazy. I don't know. Anyway, I hope it's not true. So we'll see what happens. Another interesting piece of news on a different note. Hungary, did you see their new tax policy that they're trying to release? No.

Okay, so I'm going to make sure I want to bring this up because I want to make sure I have it right here. Is it comical or what, is it? Well, so in many European countries, they're suffering from population shrinking where, or population not growing fast enough to support itself with governments if a population can't replace itself

or more than replace itself, their systems just don't work. For example, if we're, let's say we're all paying into Social Security, we need more people paying into it than taking out. If the population shrinks, that's done. And so lots of things kind of break down, and Hungary is kind of in that situation. And so the Prime Minister of Hungary is trying to pass a measure to boost birth rates. And what it is is for every family that has, for every citizen that has four or more kids,

they will never have to pay an income tax for the rest of their life. So if you're, yeah, so if you're, so if you're a family and you have three kids and then you have a fourth kid, now you'll pay no income taxes. Oh my God. It's such backwards thinking. Yeah, well, I mean, it solves the, it solves the issue of the population starting to decline.

It will spike that back up, but then you'll just be in a different, you'll be in a different situation. It's just, yeah, it's just interesting how they, how we use tax policy to feed. To promote what we want or whatever more jobs need. I don't know, think about that though. If you think about this way,

if you had three kids and you knew having one more, oh bro, 100%. You know that tax, there's some incentive there. That's how, why you don't have three and four? Hey, you're my tax free kid. Yeah, at least. The average kid costs about 200, that's average kid and this is like, this is not college, this is not like the average kid costs about 200,000, that's average kid and this is like,

this is not college, this is not, like the average kid derays to 18, they say it costs between $250,000. So that's a quarter million dollar per kid. I mean, that's, and not a lot of people have a million dollars in 18. I don't know anybody that can save a million dollars in 18 years.

So think about that. That's, and if you got exempt from taxes by having one more, like, yeah, that's a no-brainer, I feel like. Isn't that funny? What if you're the fourth kid? Free bird Freddy. You got nicknamed Storm. You're the fourth kid, you know?

You get older and you'd like exempt. Thanks, we call. Dad, did you? Did you guys want me? Or was it, you know, you can just stand over there. We just do. We call you heavy for tax per pay. We call you TB for tax break.

Tax break. Tax break, Bobby. That's breaking Bobby. We'll see what ends up happening. I think it's an interesting policy. But it's funny how governments do that. They try to manipulate the tax code to get people to change their behaviors according to what they want

or whatever it is. They just let it play out. It's like a big board game for them. Yeah, it's like, wee! Well, what I like about this is that rather than taxing you more for not having kids, they're just making you pay less tax, what I really hate is when they tax you for shit. Anything that gets you to pay less, that's fine with me, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

But it's when they charge to charge you more, like, oh, if you only have two, you have less than four kids, we're going to charge you more tax, we're going to pay more. And instead, they're doing kind of the reverse. Dude, you know how we always make these analogies about, you know, enjoying the journey and the process and like, you know, compare it to like, like, submitting Mount Everest. If you guys have seen what's been happening, like this year at Mount Everest with these, like, tours and everything, no, no. So I guess like, it's, there's been a lot of these, like,

little Sherpa tour kind of businesses that have popped up there, like a lot of them like trying to undercut each other and like, so there's cheaper options. So this created like a lot more volume on the mountain this year and it's been like the fourth worst death toll rate that they've had where they've had 11 die already, and there's bodies that people are just stepping over. What?

That they haven't brought down yet. Get out of here. Yes, there's a lineup to summit. There's this traffic jam of people trying to summit. It's because, I guess, one of the big problems is a lot of these people aren't like doing the due diligence of like getting physically fit and able to really summit something like that.

It's like literally a bucket list thing that they put on the list. It's a bucket list. They're like, fuck it, I'm 65, my heart's terrible. But I've always said I wanna climb out of here or something. Hey, I got a group on. I'm a go for it.

It's like, dude, what the fuck are you doing? Dude, those Sherpas are crazy. Those Sherpas go up and down all the time. Yeah, all the time. What's the estimated time to get from top to bottom? I don't know. You mean from bottom to bottom, and yeah. I have no idea, maybe Doug can look that up.

Yeah, I'm curious. But there's something like, I remember reading this data while I go, there's something like hundreds of bodies that are up there that they've just left. No way. Yes. No way.

Yes. It's like too hard to get them. Yeah, because it's too much work and too hard and dangerous to get them down. Yeah, you'll die trying to try to. No, I literally read this on an article literally last week, let's see, how long does it, what does that say?

I don't see it. Most expeditions take around two months. Oh, wow. Two months. Fuck that. It's grueling like two months. Like each elevation creates, you know, more challenges. So how funny is that? We see we see we see something that's the tallest thing in the world. Like, you know, we should try climbing that. Like we could do it. Yeah. More than 300 people have

died attempting to reach the summit. Wow. and there's something like hundreds of bodies up there that have just been left. Mm-hmm, holy cow. That's crazy. I didn't realize, like it was, like they showed a picture on the news, just recently, just this lineup of people waiting to get to the very top in summit, and it was just like, oh my God.

Wow, the title of this article I brought up says, the bodies of dead climbers on Everest are serving as guideposts. Ha ha ha. Oh my God. Wow, the title of this article I brought up says, the bodies of dead climbers on Everest are serving as guide posts. Oh my God. Oh, we must be at mile 45 or whatever. Day. See, that for me would totally make me want to go. Disweight me.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm climbing something and then I see like, oh, fuck, there's a frozen body. Oh, yeah. There's another frozen body. I'm like, dude, these guys, These guys, I made it this far. We couldn't hang. Yeah, we got this.

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Quee-qua-w. Our first question is from Camilla Powell Fit. Can you speed up your metabolism by eating more calories and still do cardio? Not overdoing it, but just enough to maintain tightness. Okay, so it's not super clear what she's asking. She's wanting, she's wanting, she's listening to the show a lot. This is what I'm assuming.

I'm just totally assuming this by the way she framed this question is, she's wanting to boost her metabolism. She knows we've talked about the importance of increasing your calories in order to do that. She also has obviously listened to episodes where we've talked about, you know, doing cardio. Too much cardio. Sends a signal to the body to adapt and become efficient at that, which inevitably would slow down your metabolism.

So the question is, can you still speed your metabolism up by increasing calories and- I'm not changing anything else. And also still doing cardio. So yeah, but not a lot, but yeah, there is a metabolism boosting effect and a metabolism slowing down effect from manipulating calories alone. So if you lower your caloric intake, your body does try to adapt to it by slowing down. It's metabolism by becoming more efficient at burning calories. And the reverse is also true.

If you eat more calories, you do burn more calories as a result. But you're going to be limited. You're going to be limited. This effect is limited. If you're not sending a signal to your body to become stronger and build more muscle. And so, what will end up happening is you'll eat a little bit more and notice I'm not gaining any weight on the scale. Eat a little more, no weight gain, eat a little more, oh, I'm gaining body fat, and then from then on out, you're just gaining more body fat. It is an important part of the metabolism boosting process

to eat more calories, but you also, in my experience, have to simultaneously send the right muscle building signals at the same time. Otherwise, you just end up gaining more weight, the right muscle building signals at the same time. Otherwise, you just end up gaining more weight. But there is a small window. Like, you know, I remember talking about this with another fitness professional where we noticed that when people cut or raise their calories,

there was this little window before their body would actually do anything. So like you cut a little bit and they still wouldn't lose any weight or you'd bump a little bit and they wouldn't gain any weight. So there's like this playroom that we have found through working with clients anecdotally. But if you don't lift weights and do the right kind of training, it's not going to seem to be very, very little.

This reminded me of, you know, those group acts instructors. I was always mystified when I would see, and I saw this group acts instructor that was just constantly in there, just hammering the classes, like always working out cardio, just cardio. And I would see inevitably like weight gain. And I said, it just baffled me because back then

it was very much just, everything was calories and calories out to me. And I just could not wrap my brain around why the fact why it didn't look like she was losing any weight anymore. I remember when I did Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and I was training heavily in it, I would do about four days a week of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

And these are two and a half hour classes. The first 45 minutes to an hour is a warm up, but it's really more like a workout. Then you're doing some drills. And then the last like hour is just grappling at full speed or whatever with partners. So for all intents and purposes, I was burning a shit ton of calories

doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Way more calories than when I was lifting weights, okay? But I was leaner body fat wise when I was lifting weights. Now the reason being was when I did lots of jiu-jitsu, I thought, oh, I can eat more calories as a result. And I found it was harder to do that and stay lean because my body wanted to kind of maintain this endurance and I didn't need tons of stamina, at least not as much, excuse me, a strength, or at least not

as much strength as I needed when I lifted weights. So my body adapted and I weighed, I would weigh about 185 to 190, but I would have a higher body fat percentage at that body weight. So and I was eating more. I was just wasn't sending the muscle building signal. So if you do this, you'll have a little bit of room, but not much. I know who this is, and she's a pro, bikini competitor. So, she's, and she's incredible condition.

And right away, I scratch my head on why, you know, I know her goal what she's trying to do. I see that she's off season, or she's between shows. She's wanting to, she's wanting to speed her metabolism up, increase her coloric intake, but she also doesn't want to put on too much body fat. But I also see this, and it's really common with my female bikini competitors that have utilized cardio so much to get ready for

shows that they fear letting it go completely in fear that they're going to put too much body fat in. You're going to be okay. You will maintain tightness from building muscle. If you increase your calories adequately and you don't overdo it, you just increase a little bit and you change up your programming. So you send a signal to the body to adapt and change. You'll add muscle, you won't add body fat.

And then what I would do is as you're in the, and we talked about this the other day, as you're in this caloric surplus, if you feel like you've been in a surplus for too many days or too many weeks in a row, throw some intermittent fasting days in there to kind of reset and drop your calories back down. But would highly recommend winging yourself off of cardio completely and focusing more on your knee, just getting steps and being active

to keep maybe the calorie burn up there, but not stressing the body and sitting the cardio signal because it's no matter how you draw this up, if your goal is to speed your metabolism up, build muscle and not put body fat on, then putting cardio in there is gonna be really challenging to try and do both. And I've seen your Instagram before.

I've got an incredible physique already. You're already, even in your worst shape, I still think you look great. So I think part of this is probably that fear that I know a lot of my competitors get. You're so used to seeing yourself shredded and lean. Like don't be afraid to put a little bit of body fat on. It don't worry, it'll come right back off.

And the benefits of this, and this is what I used to try and teach my competitors, is, you know, the body is this adaptation machine. And so, if you always are doing cardio and you're doing cardio even in the off season, and then you go into season, and it's time to start cutting for a show, and then you want to ramp up the cardio, your body will be less responsive than it would be if you had limited your cardio or got rid of your cardio completely

and then reintroduced it come prep time. This is why when I coach bikini competitors, the first four to six weeks of our show prep is no cardio. It's all through just walking steps because as a coach, I know that I want the final four weeks or so, I wanna be able to say, I know that I want them the final four, four weeks or so. I want to be able to say, okay, now I want you to do cardio every day. And I know that if I, if I've restricted her doing cardio during the off season and during the first few weeks of prep, that I know that if I start to introduce cardio, that

her body will start responding right away. And now we're talking all about aesthetics right now. This is not somebody trying to build cardio endurance or get ready for sport or we're not talking about overall health. When we're talking purely for aesthetic purposes, you know, you want to use cardio as a tool and a last resource to really keep progressing as the weeks go into your prep.

Yeah, and sometimes look, you can even just, you know, you kind of mentioned this a little bit, Adam, you can even just not raise calories and just start cutting cardio down. Right. So it's kind of the same thing or similar, I should say, in the sense that you're changing the energy balance in favor of potentially speeding up your metabolism. So what you could also do is eat the same amount, and I'm assuming you're lifting weights because you're a high level competitor. Keep lifting weights, just start cutting cardio down

and keep calories the same. And so in essence, it's like you've increased your calories. And what you'll find is as you cut the cardio down, your strength may or should start going up in your regular weight training workouts. And then once you get accustomed to that, then you can slowly bump up from there as well. In a staggered approach, I think,

it's probably the best approach. I mean, what may help is not, I definitely don't think you should do everything all at once. So let's say you're doing, look at your total time doing cardio, cut it down by a quarter, and then wait a couple of weeks, and then cut it down by another quarter, wait a couple of weeks doing cardio, cut it down by a quarter and then weigh the couple weeks and then cut it down by another quarter, weigh the couple weeks

and then cut it down again by another quarter. So at the end of, you know, six weeks or whatever you're down to, maybe no cardio, but you're eating the same amount of calories and you should be getting stronger and then slowly, you know, bump it up. But I guess the, you know, what we're kind of going over and explaining is this the long way of saying Yes, you can speed up your metabolism just by eating more but That alone isn't going to give you much room to go very far if you don't combine it with good weight training Then it's not going to do a whole lot and so I think what Adam was saying is is your best your best bet

Reduce and then eliminate cardio I'm not saying is your best bet, reduce and then eliminate cardio, increase your knee, or monitor your knee, lift heavy weights, and then slowly bump your calories. Next question is from Evan Brandenburg. How do you train your ability to recover and increase work capacity? Why is this important? Oh, yeah. You can definitely train your body's ability to recover and increase your work capacity. Did you just do a YouTube series on this?

Did you? Yeah, building your work capacity. Yeah, did you do a series on the channel? Yeah, there was just ways that incorporated certain things like building your work capacity through like farmer carries and in like more functional, like moving type exercises that I added load to. That also was, I mean, it was more of like grinding type work. So, in terms of adding those in, they had a cardio feel to it,

but you had weights that you're carrying with you. So, yeah, we did a whole YouTube series in order to build and increase that work capacity. Yeah, I mean, aside from having a good diet, good sleep, and all the stuff that affects your body ability to recover, just give yourself time and slowly increase your volume and frequency of training over time. I have found for me what gets my work capacity or my body's ability to recover faster is not increasing the daily volume or increasing the intensity,

but rather increasing the frequency of my workouts. That really gets my work capacity through the roof. So rather than making, let's say I'm working out four days a week rather than making my four day a week workouts longer, I'll throw in another day of working out. That would maybe accomplish the extra time that I get from the longer four workouts. And then add another day.

And I learned this as a kid. I remember going to work with my dad over the summer one year. We were, I was, I think I was, I want to say 15. So I'm a teenager. I've been working out for a year. I think I'm pretty, you know, tough or whatever. And my grandfather from Sicily was visiting and he came for the summer and he would not like take a real vacation. He's like, no, I'm gonna go to work with my son. So my grandfather came to work with my dad and me and we were out mixing cement

and here's this 67 year old man mixing cement and whistling, doing it the whole time. And it's hot, it was like, it was summertime. So it's like 90 degrees outside. I'm 15. My hands are getting blistered. I'm tired. And my grandfather's whistling and singing and mixing cement and carrying the cement up and down. And that's when I realized like, you could definitely do some incredible capacity that the body has for work. And the thing is my grandfather been doing it since he was a kid.

He just slowly built that ability. And you can do that with your training. You just have to be consistent and slowly increase your body's ability to build a handlash. A lot of that has to do technique too. And you refine the technique by practicing the movements constantly. And so to add an increased volume, obviously, that's a way to kind of build up that stamina and endurance and ability to withstand that excessive load and the volume of it, but to be able to go through those movements and refine the process of that, it really helps you to be able to get through

and build more work on top of that. So like if you see how these construction workers, they lay everything out and they have a specific technique of how they hold a nail and then they hit it with one strike. And there's just like, there's a process to refinement process all the way across the board, even with training, if I was to hone in better with how I squat, with how I bench, with how I do all these major lifts. You know, I'm gonna maximize my efficiency, which then I can then add more volume to it.

Well, I think it's important too that we define what work capacity means because I think for some people, it means I can work out really hard and really long for one big workout. That's not what I'm talking about. When I'm talking about work capacity, I'm talking about the ability to work out hard every day,

or to be able to do it frequently over time, because like I said, I would go to work with my dad, and I'd be fine one day, I'd work hard just like everybody else, then I'd be kind of sore the day after, and then the day after that I'd even be more sore, and these guys aren't even sore, and they're continuing to work. That's work capacity, and for me, increasing the frequency of my workouts, did that better than just making my current workouts longer and harder.

I learned that with Maps and Abolic. With Maps and Abolic, that's when I really started switching to full body workouts. Then trigger sessions, which are short workouts several times a day on the off days. I realized that if I slowly ramp this up, I had this incredible ability to just work out more and more and more and more and not feel bad about it and feel okay, my body wasn't breaking down, I wasn't getting super sore.

Frequency, frequency of training is probably the best way to do this, rather than beating the crap out of yourself in just one day, lower the intensity, train more frequently, and then little by little, you're able to work out more. Well, I mean, the examples, like these kids that grew up on a farm, and we recognize that right away on the football team. And like, I've even heard, like, Navy SEALs have talked about too, like, who really makes

it through these, like, buds training and these crazy like highly intense situations and it's because they started young and it just was a process of like overcoming this constant everyday stress and moving heavy objects and that was just that it became something that was like a daily occurrence and these kids were just like freakishly strong because they could just withstand

whatever you threw at them. Absolutely. So are you mixing cement in the wheelbarrow? How are you doing it? No, so it would be a big tub. Like the big, you know, it's made out of like plastic. And it's huge, like from where you're at to where Justin's at.

Oh wow. And you would add the sand, the cement, the lime, if you're making mud or whatever. And typically you'd have one guy on one side and one guy on the sand, the cement, the lime, if you're making mud or whatever. And typically you'd have one guy on one side and one guy on the other side. And you, one guy mixes it and the other guy mixes it and you go back and forth and then you add water and then you can go back and forth.

I still remember the technique, dude. I still remember the scooping. Oh yeah, with the big face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lift it up and turn it so you get all the dry. Oh no, dude, on the surface. I was on one side, my grandfather's on the big weight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lift it up and turn it so you get all the dry. Oh no, dude, on the surface. I was on one side, my grandfather's on the other side. It's fucking, I'll never forget it.

It's grueling. It was sweltering hot, and I wanted to look, I want to show off to my grandfather, like, I can work hard, you know? And so I'm on one end, he's on the other end, and we're mixing, and every time one guy's done mixing, you pass the shovel or the hoe over to the other guy, and he keeps going.

And we're doing this back and forth, back and forth. Passing off that hoe. And I'm watching, and there's a jug of, that mixing, you pass the shovel or the hoe over to the other guy and he keeps going. And we're doing this back and forth back and forth. And I'm watching and there's a jug of, there's a cooler of water like five feet to the left in the shade. And I'm looking at it like, oh my God, and my grandfather just keeps going and he's whistling and he's going faster than I am. So I'm not getting any rest. And we're going back and forth and I'm like, and then when we put it in buckets and bring

it up to stairs to my dad, we come back down, I think he's gonna take a break. Nope, goes right back to him. And that's when I realized, okay, there's a whole another gear. There's another one, I don't have that. Did I have it in develop? Yeah.

But it's frequency, man, because by the end of the summer, I was always like my work capacity had gone up. It's not about super long, super hard intense workouts. It's about doing them frequently and it's slowly building up your tolerance to that. Yeah, absolutely. Next question is from FM Miracle Homes. What are your essentials for a home gym?

Well, you both have the home gyms. Yeah. Yeah. I love having a rack. I mean, I don't really know. Yeah, isn't it impressive, you guys? You guys. I built it myself.

I was 13 there, but I know. Total setup, boobs. But just having that in a bar, because I, I mean, I have to have a barbell. That's just, I mean, I can't really have that effective of work. I've tried before with kettlebells and dumbbells and I just don't, I don't get the same type of response I do with the barbell. I need to, and I can intermittently kind of switch. And so I could switch to dumbbell training, kettlebell training,

but I always have to come back to barbell loaded training. So for me, it's essential having a rack because I also want to be able to set up for a squat for an overhead press, for a bench press, and that's crucial for me. So between that and dumbbells, kettlebells, I actually have this hook that goes over one of my doors. So actually, it has kind of a makeshift way

of applying cable type exercises for accessory work and things like that, which is nice, but rubber bands are fine for that. So that's about it. For me, for the first, maybe two years of my lifting when I was a kid, and then for the last, besides when I go to gyms and workout,

which is not often, I'd say 90% of my workouts over the last 14 years have been done with a rack, a barbell, dumbbells and an adjustable bench. That's been 90% of my workouts for the last 14 years. And there was a huge stretch there where that's all I did, where when I had my personal training studio,

that's what I had, I had cables in there too and I'd use those occasionally, but it was all barbells, dumbbells, adjustable bench, and a rack. 14 years, I tell ya. Yeah, and that's all bodybuilders had for a long time. And that's, I'm not gonna lie, now you gotta get creative with your exercises,

but I could write down a thousand exercises that I can do with all of those tools right there. That's really all you need. I could train anybody with that. Now machines and stuff, they're great variety. They can be a lot of fun, they can add a lot of volume to your workouts with more of that variety and less of that damage.

But dumbbells, barbell, a rack, and adjustable bench. And I've got you 100% covered. I could hit everybody part, do every functional movement I bench, and I've got you 100% covered. I could hit every body part, do every functional movement I want. I can work with almost anybody. That's how I train clients forever. And that's still how I prefer to do most of my workouts. It's all the best exercises.

Now, when I go to the gym today, I do all machine workouts. And the only reason why I do that is I never do them. Yeah. So it's like, I just, yeah, it's just, oh, I'm going to the gym today, so I might as well use all the equipment that I never use. But no, 90% more, and that's it.

That's what I recommend for anybody. And here's a cool thing, it's not that expensive. I was just gonna say, what do you think the cost is for that your setups? Oh, you know what your color around 2,500. A couple, a couple grand. If you go on Craigslist and you're smart and you get you stuff, you can do it even cheaper.

I don't like the new stuff. You know, I like to have it nice and new. We had some people in our form like build racks and shit. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, there's some people that can really like be, you know, ingenuative about it. Yeah, yeah, and the value of it having at home is obviously the scheduling.

What? Ingenuative. Ingenuative? Wow. I don't know. having at home is obviously the scheduling. What? Ingenuative. Ingenuative? Wow. I don't know. I was just trying to check myself there. I was like, I'm gonna have more of it.

Yeah, I just made one. No, that's up there with Electronical. It should be a word. It should be. It sounds like it should be. I know exactly what you mean by. I want somebody fact check me on that. No, like innovative.

Yeah, like you'll get. In a fake you don't. There's like all these exercises with barbells and dumbbells that a lot of people haven't done or don't do anymore because of machines. Like a barbell hax squat. What a great exercise. You know, T-Bar row with the bar jammed

into the corner of the wall. Great exercise for the back. Lots of shoulder variations on the bench. There's an incline bench lateral for the shoulders, then you don't ever see anybody doing. There's spider curls and sissy squats and all these different variations of exercises that are done with free weights that I kind of grew up on that I think are the most effective movements that exist that really are. So I mean, if you guys only had to pick four pieces

of equipment, don't tell me you would disagree, right? Exactly. No, I was. Aren't you thinking about doing some home gym stuff? I will see. It all depends on what do I do with my Camaro, because I need that spot for my Camaro. If I didn't have that there, 100% would have the PRX

that I'd like Justin. But I have, right now I have the house, I have the Rower, I have a set of dumbbells, and I have a couple of kettlebells. I was doing work in the garage yesterday. For me, I'm still, I don't know, and I don't know if it's just the, I like all the toys in the gym.

You know, I like all the cables, the machines, and to be able to integrate that into my workout. Although I'll tell you what, I since I started hanging out with you guys, I've done more just straight traditional barbell lifting in my life, in the last five years and total combined, for sure, just in the last five years.

It's so funny, because I can see the, like I get excited going to a gym with a lot of equipment because I get to try different things, but I can get even more excited knowing I'm about to do a hard workout and I just have four, like dumbbells in a barbell, like okay, this is gonna get,

you know, this is gonna get crazy, this is gonna get heavy. Well simplicity for me, it helps, I don't know, it just helps me to get through the workout. Like I'm, I just like to focus on one thing at a time. Sometimes when I'm at the gym, it's just so much cool shit that I'm like, I get distracted.

When we just talking to somebody about that, we have too much of stuff. It's, it's like the, I don't know if anybody did this, but like I remember as a kid, I, you know, date myself here, collecting video cassettes. You know, and as a kid, it didn't make very much money in school, so with that, like, you know,

once a month, maybe I could buy a one video cassette. So I had like 30 video cassettes. I watched those 30 movies over like a hundred times. Yeah, later on in my life, when, you know, spending $15 on a DVD was no big deal. So that, I had hundreds, and I remember, you've seen my collection that I got rid of not that long ago.

And I remember standing in front of that for hours, not fucking knowing what to watch. Like Netflix, like, yeah, like, I got nothing good to watch. But when I was a kid and all I had was the 20 or 30 video cassettes, I watched them all like 30 to four times and it was a great experience, but having too much options sometimes. Yeah, here's some other things that I would say you'd want for your home. Make yourself a calf block, because obviously barbell dumbbells, you wanna be able to do calf raises.

I used to like to have an ab roller, which is the wheel with the little thing for intense ab exercises. A physio ball is always great for a home gym, a floor mat, but you can lay on it. Yeah, in terms of the floor mat. So they have horse grade like floor mats that are like thick, but because of you get it for like horse stalls, it's cheaper than that.

That's what I got mine. Yeah, and then instead of getting it, because it's outrageous. A lot of these that, if you're looking for fitness specific products, they hike the price up like crazy. So if it's something like that, that you could get that's already, you know, people use for horse stalls. It's great. Our buddy Craig Capurso built an awesome at home.

He did. I don't know if you've seen his latest. I mean, it's completely the outfit it now. Oh, no, it's great. Yeah, great. But you, oh, the thing I like to do is I like to get a few bumper plates because of putting down metal plates on the floor,

even if I have a rubber. Yeah, so I have a couple bumper plates and I got these bumper plates that are just a tad bit larger than my metal plates. So I could put one bumper plate on, the rest are metal plates and then it's the bumper plate that absorbs most of the shock.

Next question is from Cute Kells, oh six is lifting heavy a bad idea after getting a deep tissue massage. Okay, so here's the thing. It can be. Oh yeah, it can be. Remember, this is how a massage works on the body, deep tissue. When they're in their hammering muscles out, a lot of what's happening, if not all of

that's happening, is it sending a signal to your central nervous system to relax those muscles? And so when you feel a knot in your muscles or they feel tight, that's your CNS sending kind of this low level signal telling that muscle to be slightly tight or tensed. When you press on it really, really hard, the CNS gets the signal and tells it to relax

to prevent damage from happening. Before a workout, you probably don't want a massive CNS dampening signal. It would be like doing a workout, you probably don't want a massive CNS dampening signal. It would be like doing a deep, it would be like doing static stretches before lifting. Probably not a good idea. You're loose, you're like gumbee,

and I bet you if they did a study on this, and I'm seeking generally, because I can see how this could benefit certain individuals. Like, let's say you're somebody's just got ultra tight traps. Probably a good idea to have deep tissue work on your traps before you do back work so your traps don't take over. But generally speaking, I bet you if they did a study on this, like deep, deep, deep tissue massage in the right after heavy lifting, I bet you'd see injury rates go up a little bit just

like you would with static stretching. Deep tissue massage before the heavy and then heavy. Okay. Yeah. It's great after. After the best. That's what you ideally you want to go. And it's funny because people tend to go get the deep tissue like after the soreness sets in two days later or whatever, but the best time to do a deep tissue is following a really hard lifting session. Not before, it's not as advantageous to do it beforehand, especially if they've done some,

I mean, they got really in on you. Sometimes they'll have done enough damage that your body's trying to repair itself because they've gotten in on you so bad. And then to be going into the gym and hammering it, not ideal at all, but post-hard session, incredible. Incredible benefits. I remember I got tripped out on the first legit,

deep tissue massage. This, I've been sore, man. Oh, dude, you're doing that. I got tripped out on the first legit deep tissue massage. I've been sore, man. Oh, dude, you're doing that. Oh, yeah. A young lady that used to rent the office in the back of my wellness studio. She was the best massage therapist I've ever worked with.

She introduced me to what deep tissue really was. I remember at the time I was doing jujitsu and I had really bad tennis elbow on both sides of my arm. They were just always constantly sore. I couldn't figure out what it was and I would scratch and stuff. And she said, let me do a two-hour session on your forearms. So I said, okay, two hours, all right. And she beat the shit out of my forearms.

But I'll never forget they were pumped. I had a pump in them as if I worked them out because she had worked on them so bad. And then the pain was gone. I was sore for a couple of days afterwards and it completely solved the problem. So I legit, but a legit deep tissue massage, I mean, how do you feel Adam after getting one of those?

Oh yeah, no, I'm exhausted afterwards. You, a lot of times like Justin said, I'm sore. It's rare that I'm not a little bit sore. Like it's pretty common that if you get a really deep tissue massage, but man, it promotes all the blood flow, oxygen and nutrients to get into those muscles and recover. So, you know, what's better than to go, I love, I used to love getting a hard, heavy leg training session in and then get deep tissue work into my legs. Oh man, feel it.

But how do you do that? I like to do more mobility and flow to just get everything circulated and moving properly again. It really mitigates how sore you are. And we know this, one of the worst things that you can do is do a hard training session and then hop on a plane or go lay down. Or go lay down and be lazy the next day,

be seated all day long, right? Then you just seize up and you lock up. If you get a deep tissue massage afterwards, it'll really mitigate that tightness that you normally feel the next two days from a hard lifting session, but definitely not ideal to do it and then go into it. Now, there are some cases where a deep tissue massage

if targeted and on the right person is a good thing before heavy lifting. Right, but it's targeted. Right, if you, for example, I don't know, give you an example of that when I've had this before, like if you had like one of your shoulders is locked in and rolled forward, like just on one side and they go in and they open up, you know, the whole scapula. To promote better movement. Yeah, to promote better movement. And then I go in and they open up, you know, the whole scapula. To promote better movement. Yeah, to promote better movement.

And then I go in to go do a heavy chest day. Like that makes sense. It makes sense because I'm so locked up. I'm in this rounded position going to go do a heavy session before fixing that would be problematic. So this is what I did in my wellness studio and we were so successful at it. And what I would do is I would get a client,

I would do an assessment, I'd identify, you know, imbalances and tight muscles and whatever. Then I'd have my massage therapist do her assessment and she would do a different assessment. She would watch them walk and stand and then she would place her hands on them and she said she could tell by the playability of the muscle that is she would push on the muscle and see how,

I guess how pliable it is, right? How much it moves and the person's response in terms of where they're tight and where they need work. And then based off of that, I would have them see her before I train them and I would tell her what I'm gonna do that day. I'm gonna say, okay, so John, I'm gonna do squats with him. And so I want you to help him get into the squatting position better.

So then she would take him in the back, and we obviously, we would share files. So we'd have files that we share so we can see what we would do and whatever. And she would, let's say he had, you know, a forward shoulder really, really bad. And it was hard for him to grab the bar and squeeze back. She would do deep tissue across his chest and shoulders, which would loosen those up and allow him to squeeze in the back. Maybe he has calves or soleus muscles

that are so tight that his heels want to come off the floor. Then she's going to do deep tissue. So basically her job was to get the tight muscles out of the way so that I could do my job. Right, that makes sense. As a trainer. And let me tell you that, now that's very specific. job. Right, that makes sense. As a trainer. And let me tell you, now that's very specific. That's why I don't recommend go get a deep

institution massage and lift heavy. You have to know what they're doing. But if they do it right, we worked fucking miracles. We used to correct, I would correct muscle imbalances and with that combination fast. It was like one third the time normally it would take me let's say two or three months to get someone to fix a problem.

Yeah, because that was, I mean, you're trying to teach them how to self apply, you know, the massage those specific muscles in order to unlock abilities for them to move it properly. And that's why you kind of, like some of these other tools, like, you know, the foam roller and using these vibrating tools, like do help initially just to get you to,

you know, dampen that, that strong like tight CNS signal to, you know, protect and restrict the movement, to be able to kind of allow then into the workout. Now we have more range of motion and ability to get through proper movement. But, you know, inevitably it's, it was a constant battle, you know, to be able to stimulate that, but then like keep recreating good movement patterns. So it has to keep happening constantly. Yeah, no, and I learned from it. So because I worked with this young lady and she would do this, I started picking up on some of this stuff. And then simple stuff I would do myself, like a real easy example is a lot of people

have a tendency when they do back exercises like a row, they have a tendency to shrug their shoulders. And this is just because they have typically weak mid back muscles and their upper traps are just taking over all the time. And these are people have stiff necks and tension headaches. And so I would have them do a row. I would see that, oh, when I tell them

to release squeeze hard back, they shrug their shoulder, their traps are tight. In between sets, I would do deep tissue massage on their traps. And all I was doing was temporarily weakening the traps. I was getting their traps to relax. And then lo and behold, we'd get better form. And that form would then strengthen the better recruitment patterns. But that being said, unless you have somebody that really knows what they're doing and

they know what you're working, I don't know very many massage therapists that know exercise very well, that's the problem. So, and what I mean by that is they know exercise but not like a trainer. So I worked with a therapist. Unless you have someone that knows exercise and knows what you're about to do.

Sports therapists should know their shit. Exactly. Sports therapists should be able to go in, I mean I used to go see a sports therapist and tell them what's going on with me and then they know where they need to be working. So a good one will know to do. But if you're just going to get a nice, relaxing, deep tissue massage and you're there.

You want to work out right now? Yeah, I mean, you're better off not going in training right afterwards. You're better off the training beforehand and then just get a, if you're going to do like a full body deep tissue and you're not, you know, focusing on specific areas like you guys are talking about. Totally. If you go to MindPumpFree.com, you can download our guides. They're all absolutely free. You can also find us all on Instagram.

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