Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1046: The Benefits of Olympic Style Lifts with Kettlebells, What to do When You Don't Feel Like Working Out, How to Strengthen Bones & MORE
Episode Date: June 5, 2019In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the kettlebell versions of Olympic lifts, a goo...d way to strengthen bones, what to do when you get to the gym but don't feel like lifting, and what they would eat if they could eat anything with no consequence. Should CBD be regulated? The recent FDA public hearing, companies like NED doing things the RIGHT way & MORE. (5:17) 16-year-old girl faces child-porn charges for making a video of herself. Is this a parenting issue or should she bare all the responsibility? (16:40) US government preparing potential investigation into Google over its monopoly on competition. (27:22) Apple iTunes is shutting down. (31:32) Sal joins the bandwagon and finally starts Game of Thrones! (33:42) Mind Pump Recommends. (35:55) Justin finds a new passion, the tough job of a comedian & MORE. (38:14) Bring your son to workday at Mind Pump. (46:47) #Quah question #1 – I know how you guys feel about Olympic lifts with a barbell. What are your thoughts on the kettlebell versions of those exercises? Is the barrier to entry lower form wise give them a place in peoples workouts? (50:59) #Quah question #2 – What is a good way to strengthen bones? A personal trainer told me that I have low bone density according to one of those handheld devices and told me I should sprint. I don’t want to hurt myself and sprinting is a skill I don’t have. My grandma had osteoporosis, so it is something I do think about wanting to prevent. (1:00:22) #Quah question #3 – If someone gets to the gym and they aren’t feeling it but want to get their lift on, what would you recommend? (1:06:31) #Quah question #4 – Here’s the scenario: You have a day to eat whatever you want with no consequences. What do you each eat for each meal? (1:12:47) People Mentioned Brendan Schaub (@brendanschaub) Instagram Joe Rogan (@joerogan) Instagram Mike Salemi (@mike.salemi) Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Code “STRONG50” at checkout** Visit Ned for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** FDA to hold first public hearing on effects of CBD 5 Takeaways From the FDA's Hearing on CBD | Leafly 16-year-old girl appeals after being convicted of child pornography over sex video she made of herself and sent to her friends US government preparing potential investigation into Google over its monopoly on competition Apple iTunes Is Shutting Down - Consumer Reports Bad Blood | Netflix Official Site Cobra Kai - YouTube Brendan Schaub You'd Be Surprised (2019) | SHOWTIME Kettlebells For Aesthetics | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources
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MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
Hey guess what guys?
What's that?
It's Mind Pomp Time.
Of course it is.
Alright look, this episode is shock full of fitness, but for the first 47 minutes we have fun conversation time.
Here's what we talked about in the first half of this episode.
We brought up the FDA CBD hearing.
That's a lot of acronyms there.
I guess the government is looking into CBD and to whether or not they're
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I don't know.
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Then I talked about the crazy case of the 16 year old girl who's facing child pornography
charges for sending a video of herself, which is kind of crazy.
We talked about the Department of Justice coming after Google calling it a monopoly on advertising.
That's weird.
Apple is breaking up iTunes.
They're actually breaking up into segments.
This may be a good thing for podcasting.
We'll see.
Guess you started watching Game of Thrones.
This guy, Adam brought up a new show on Netflix called, Bad Blood, Justin talked about
Cobra Kai on YouTube.
I talked about the Aladdin movie.
We talked a lot about films, didn't we?
And Justin talked about how he was shooting pigeons this weekend,
excuse me, clay pigeons this weekend.
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And I talked about how I gave my son,
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Then we start talking about fitness.
Here's what we talked about.
The first question was, we have an opinion on Olympic lifts.
We talk about them being too complex for most people.
The question is, are kettlebells a good replacement?
Are they good for average people to do?
Do they give you a lot of the same types of benefits?
Sure answer yes.
The next question, what's a great way to strengthen bones?
This person was told that they needed to sprint
to strengthen their bones, but we have a better suggestion.
The next question, this person wants to know,
if they're not feeling it for the day,
should they still go to the gym or should they take that day off?
And the final question,
if we could have a day to eat whatever we want
with no consequences, what would could have a day to eat whatever we want with no consequences,
what would we eat all day long?
That part of the episode, we get a little luxury,
but whatever, that's what we like to do.
Just add cheese on everything.
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Boy, I guess what happened on Friday. Oh sugar turkey. What happened on Friday?
FDA held its first hearing with
Good, turkey. What happened on Friday?
FDA held its first hearing with manufacturers and scientists
to learn more about the possible impacts
of long-term CBD use.
Oh, ew.
I love how the FDA is like a million years too late.
There's already ice cream with CBD, FDA.
We're here to do it.
Well, so that's where you now.
So that's what manufacturers are urging the FDA
to set up the framework to legally add CBD to food products,
and mainly because it's getting so out of control.
It's just getting to the point
where everybody is doing it,
and they're wanting them to come in and regulate some of it.
And I don't know what side I'm on here,
because I think we all talk about,
most for the most part,
we're not fans of regulation on stuff, right?
Let the market decide.
Let the consumer decide.
Let the consumer decide if they think it's necessary
to have CBD soap, you know what I'm saying?
Let them, let them bulls decide.
And if companies want to go put worthless shit like that
in product like that and people are going to buy it
then so be it.
But then there's the other side of me too
that's like, man, there I am a firm believer in some of the positive benefits
of CBD and companies like Ned. It's the reason why we work with them. But then I see all
this other stuff and then I feel like it kind of devalues a company like that.
Dude, this reminds me of, you know, years ago, there was a supplement that would
be on the market. You can still find it nowadays. It's called Ekti Sterone and it's a plant
sterol. It's also an insect hormone, but it's found in plant. And there were studies that
showed that it built an incredible muscle and people got good results from it. And so what companies did is a whole bunch
of supplement companies came out and said,
here's our Ekti Sterone supplement.
The problem was they didn't have any Ekti Sterone in there.
It was just all bullshit.
And so what ended up happening is you had this judgment
being placed on something that may have some benefits
but the judgment was based off of all these shitty products
with no active ingredient.
And what's going to happen with CBD is worse because you have Ben and Jerry's putting CBD
in ice cream.
You have Carl's Jr. putting CBD in a burger.
You have shampoo with CBD and food cream with CBD and fucking, I mean, I'm surprised they haven't put CBD in kids cereal, okay?
Yeah.
And the problem with that is A, CBD has real applications, but it also doesn't have
all the applications.
It's not like you could just spray in the air and everyone's going to get all these
benefits.
And a lot of these companies are not putting efficacious amounts of CBD.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the vast majority of them had none.
They just said they have, because nobody's checking.
If they had no CBD whatsoever, or if they have such a miniscule amount that it's almost
like nothing, it's like homeopathic.
Well, and this is where I struggle with in my pro regulation
or not here, because then there's parts of me that says,
okay, sure, allow everybody to throw it
in their ice cream, their shampoo, do whatever they want to do.
But then at the bare minimum, it should be a dose
that actually has some sort of benefits
at the bare minimum.
So they can't get away with pixie dusting stuff
in their product just to jump on the bandwagon
of it exploding right now
and make a ton of money off of people
that are naive to do the research and go,
oh wow, this isn't even enough to make a difference
in my anxiety, why the fuck am I washing myself
with this $15 bar soap?
Because it's clinging.
It's woven in my underwear.
Yeah, it's like, you know, I've been eating that,
Ben and Jerry ice cream every time I get anxious with CBD
And you know what?
It does get fat.
Did I really feel a benefit?
It does work.
Hey, arguably that was, hey, arguably the best idea actually is the Ben and Jerry CBD.
I heard that it came up with.
This is good for anxiety.
Yeah.
Oh, I get so anxious at night.
So I crush a pint of Ben and Jerry's with CBD.
I feel amazing after work.
Thanks for the reason.
Totally not going to reinforce any bad relationships
the food or anything like that, right?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, I heard CBD was good for stress.
I'm gonna go get that burger.
You know, I mean, it's got CBD in it.
It should help me out with my stress.
You know, meanwhile, you're totally turned
to your food problem into a worse problem anyway.
I'm just glad that we linked up with Ned early
so that I don't feel like.
Well, see, here's what I like about Ned
This is what up because you know we have a whole process before we ever partner or work with anyone
We're not easy to date. Okay, mine pump is a very
Difficult it's more like courting. Yeah, you know if you want to put out we definitely don't put out right away
And so with Ned I got on the phone with them
I asked them a lot of questions,
I wanted to see independent lab results.
And here's what I liked about them.
They weren't foolish shit.
The lab reports, the lab reports, which were third party,
showed that they have efficacious amounts of,
not just CBD, but the whole spectrum of cannabinoids
that you can find in hemp.
And here's why that's important,
because what you're gonna find is the studies are gonna show,
because studies have already shown this,
but more and more studies are gonna continue to show that.
It's not just about using one cannabinoid.
They work better together than they do apart.
Now, THC is the one that is strictly regulated,
so you can't put THC in stuff
because it's still a scheduled drug.
But even the studies that are done on just CBD show
that CBD with a little bit of THC
is better than just CBD or just THC.
It's true for all the cannabinoids.
And so the thing I like about NET
is they're not just extracting CBD and putting it in their
oil and the fact that they're getting it from hemp means it's okay.
What they're saying is this is full spectrum hemp oil and it's actually concentrated and
here's your lab results or whatever.
They're good, the problem, and I mean, it's a good and bad thing for them, right?
They're competing in a market with a bunch of morons.
But at the, on the other side of it,
a lot of people haven't heard of Ned,
and a lot of people are gonna try CBD crap products,
and then they're gonna use them and come back and be like,
hmm, yeah, but they haven't been told.
CBD is a priority.
I mean, they're sticking with like few products
that are just focused on getting you the benefits
of what the intent
of using CBD is.
And you know, not sprinkling it on top of like all these other options and food products
and beauty products, all these different things that like it's just getting like out of control.
No, what CBD does is it seems to improve the way that your body works with its own natural endocannabinoids.
Because you make your own cannabinoids in your body.
That's why you have receptors.
And what CBD seems to do is just make those natural cannabinoids more effective in the body.
Because it doesn't attach to the two cannabinoid receptors that we've identified.
CBD isn't even attached to those.
THC does, but CBD doesn't, nor does a lot of these other cannabinoids.
But what they do is they kind of have this effect on the body
where it gets your other cannabinoids to work a little bit better.
And the research is still limited.
That's the thing.
The best research, obviously, the best research is on epilepsy.
That's what actual medicine exists for with CBD.
But other research shows en endolytic properties.
It's that anti-anxiety kind of feeling more social.
It's not a depressant like other endolytic.
I'm so annoyed by the fitness community right now.
Oh, terrible.
That's pitching it hard for the recovery aspect of it.
Oh, God.
And it's like, I have yet to see a fitness person promote CBD
and actually have a good product.
They're all shit.
I have yet to see any of them.
I have looked at them.
And I'm like, okay, your CBD post workout or pre workout
or your new CBD drops and you look at the company,
you see if they have any third party results, they don't.
It's all bullshit.
You're buying fucking a placebo.
Well, it's a thing too, even if it wasn't garbage, which most of them are, even if they,
it is legit CBD, it's all a sudden you're this, this pro, men's physique body builder guy,
and now all a sudden, at post workout, you always drop your CBD.
Motherfucker, you got to be a pro, you didn't even know what CBD was two years ago.
Now you're repping it as your post workout, like all like all time like get the fuck out of here with that shit
Like it's that's not I mean I've been around the marijuana industry for fucking 10 years plus now
You never heard me on this show talking about how like oh after every workout. I make sure
Like BCAs and see yeah drop my two drops to see get the fuck out of here
They're trying to ritualize CBD like they did
with other supplements.
Well, I mean, here's a couple of,
I feel bad and I have to apologize
for even our own company, Ned, but I do.
I actually tell a lot of people in my DMs,
like they're like, hey, you know what,
I'm thinking about using CBD now and that,
so I ask questions, like, you know, what do you want it for?
Well, you know, I heard it's great for recovery.
I'm like, stop.
I heard it's great for fat loss. I heard it's great for recovering. Like, stop. I heard it's great for fat loss.
I heard it's great for muscle.
Stop, stop, stop.
If you don't have crazy anxiety
and you're looking for things like that
to get relief from it,
the idea of creating it as a post workout routine
to recover faster and get more gains.
No.
Stop it.
No, I mean, it does have long term,
you know, anti-inflammatory properties.
It does, the reports that I'm getting from people
are helps me with anxiety and sleep,
but no, it's not a performance, you know, supplement.
Unless you're, unless it's helping you
with like a medical issue, like, you know,
an extreme example, if you have intractable epilepsy,
will CBD improve your physical performance?
Yeah, definitely.
Well, if you have inflammatory issues
that are related to your autoimmune issues
and you're finding that CBD helps with that,
will help with your performance?
Yeah, because you're healthier.
But other than that, these fitness guys
and girls that are promoting are just,
I mean, look, here's the bottom line.
Does CBD build muscle?
Yes, when you sprinkle it on your dianna ball pills before after you. Okay. There's a easy. Yeah, because the
fitness physique guys and fitness people who are like, CBD, let me ask them how much of
their steroids are putting on with it. And then you get your answer. The fuck out of you.
That's, that's, it's so annoying. But, hey, look at the end of the day, if you're interested
in trying it out to see if it's something that you notice something from,
make sure you get it from a reputable source
that's got third party testing, that's legit,
because I'm telling you right now,
and this is what pisses me off with the supplement industry
because this falls under that category.
The supplement industry, you ever seen that meme
where the kid is riding a bike and then he puts a stick
in the front tire and it flips over
Like he does it himself and he flips over and they blame someone else
That's what the supplement industry does
Why is the FDA got to come down on us all the time because you guys are fucking idiots
If you keep selling shit that has nothing in it or it's got like, you know, heavy metals or toxins in it at some point
the FDA now has a good reason to come out and
Hammer everybody and all you're gonna do by selling this bullshit is have the FDA hammer down on companies that
are on all the good companies. It's like, stop. Stop with that shit. Stop bullshit because you're making it bad for everybody.
You know what I'm saying? Anyway, speaking about making about-
Stop the madness.
Speaking about big bad shit, did you guys hear about the 16 year old girl,
so I got it, this is kind of crazy.
And this brings up a good discussion.
There's a 16 year old girl who made a sex tape of herself.
What?
With a boy.
I mean, like, oh okay, so that masturbating,
actually having sex.
No, she had, with another kid, that's her age,
who, and it was all consensual,
and she shared the video to some of her friends,
and it was consensual in the sense that she sent the video,
the person in the video was like, yeah, send it off,
or whatever, and her friends were all underage,
doesn't matter.
She's gonna be facing charges of child pornography.
She is.
She is.
She is.
Because she's sharing the video.
They're trying to make it example.
Even though it's a video of herself,
she is gonna face charges.
Charges interesting.
Well, well think about it, dude.
Here's the thing, if you get charged with child pornography,
guess where your name is permanently.
Yeah, make it slow, right?
On a fucking list.
Yeah. Forever. Like, and then law, right? On a fucking list. Yeah.
Forever.
Wow.
And then you go try and get a job or, you know,
you're dating someone they look your name up
and they see you on the shelf.
She's gonna win that.
She can't live that.
No, I think that I think she lost it.
Oh, she did, she lost it.
Yeah, I think she lost it.
She's not gonna go to jail.
They're gonna require her to take a bunch of courses
and classes and-
Now, where do you guys stand on that?
I don't know, man, because I kinda understand that if,
I don't know an example of that happening previous to this.
So this is one of those cases where it's like,
people have a lot of eyes on it,
and it's like, I could see it being a deterrent
for kids to share videos like that with friends.
I think this is a parenting issue, dude.
100% yeah. 100% yeah.
100%
I think this is a fucking fine
or some sort of a penalty on your parenting.
Like, I mean, that's, to me,
here's the thing, this is something I learned
when I was arrested at 16 and my car
taken away from me and I had a cop just fucking
berate me for two hours, dude,
just lecturing me on what a shitty kid I was gonna be
if I had kept going down this path, yada, yada, yada,
and I come to find out that all the stuff that I,
now this time in my life, my bedroom set, my TV,
my toys, everything I had was stuff
that I had pretty much worked for and saved up
and bought for myself, and he'd schooled me on,
listen kid, you're 17 or 16, whatever I was,
that's 16 at the time,
you are owned by your parents.
All that's, and I'm like, no, I worked for it.
I saved that was my money.
He's like, doesn't matter.
Anything that you think is yours
until you are 18, your parents own.
They can auction all of it off tomorrow.
There's not a goddamn thing you can do. They can burn off tomorrow. There's not a goddamn thing you can do.
They can burn it tomorrow.
There's not a goddamn thing you can do.
They own every bit of you until you are 18.
That was huge and I opening for me.
To that same point, I feel like this kid
shouldn't get all the responsibility of sharing sex tape
like that of themselves.
It's like, where the fuck are the parents at at this?
Well, so here's what's gonna happen.
She's being put on probation and she's
referred for a mental health evaluation. So let's talk about those two things.
First off, you're a 16 year old girl. You share a sex video to other minors
who may also be charged now, right? Because they got it, but they're all minors.
And now the, and those kids tell the school officials,
you can't tell me, and I'm sure there's kids that
are terrible or whatever, you can't tell me that enough.
That isn't a massively embarrassing,
terrible thing right there.
Yeah.
And then mental health, hold on a second.
Let's go back for a second.
Imagine if I was 16, with the fucking
to technology we have today,
and I had a girlfriend, pretty sure
my bad judgment would have caused me to send
pictures of myself and ask for pictures from her.
So mental, to go to, like.
No, that doesn't make sense.
No, this girl's already been probably tortured over it.
Oh yeah, totally, just the embarrassment of it,
but in her reputation and all that shit.
Now she's getting a probation. Yeah, I think totally, just the embarrassment of it, but. And her reputation and all that shit, now she's gonna go for a vacation.
Yeah, I think it, I mean, it definitely highlights
the seriousness of the modern age of like videotape
and like how that lives forever.
Like that is gonna follow her forever.
It is, but it is.
So my buddy who's the principal says,
this is like the number one thing they have to police.
He says it's one of the most difficult things
to deal with at the school right now,
is like kids sending each other news
and stuff with each other.
Which is probably what you would have done it.
I know, but exactly.
That's what I've, yeah, it's scary to think about.
That's the number one conversation I have with my kids,
is I tell them, don't send your dick son.
No dick pics.
Everything that you do or receive on your phone
is saved and recorded forever.
So you just be very, very careful
because it can be used against you
and you can get yourself into really big trouble.
And I'm just reminding them
because I think that they grew up in this world
where they think, oh, it's not a big deal.
Just put it out there.
I know adults like, I mean, come on.
I'm talking to a kid, adults do this shit.
I mean, how many adults have sent nude pictures to
themselves, to some person that they're talking to and honestly thinks that
that person not sharing it or showing it to other people. Get the fuck out here.
Haven't like politicians and stuff gotten in trouble for some of this stuff.
Yeah, I didn't base those recently. Yeah, that guy, a weiner was last
last time was weiner. He shared his weiner. Sharon weiner.
It's kind of obvious. Yeah, but I think, uh, having her, like,
having the forties being involved, I mean, that's a little
to me. I think you make a good point. It's being part of the,
you know, the parents responsibility of how to handle that
situation. Yeah. I don't know. I guess for me soon to be
apparent, I can't really speak on guess for me soon to be a parent,
I can't really speak on it too much,
but I feel like, when my boy's a teenager
and he does some shit like this,
I'm gonna feel awful as a parent.
Like I drop the ball.
I drop the ball by not being wise enough
that this is a serious thing that kids do at this age
because they have the ability to.
I mean, that's just either one you're a naive parent or you're disconnected from it.
Look, there's a lot of disconnected parents out there that aren't paying attention to this
kind of shit.
And as a parent, you weigh things out.
I'll tell you guys a story.
So when I was, I think it was like 12, my family and my cousin's family all went camping.
And we used to bring our BMX bikes to the campsites.
It was car camping, right?
So you parked the car, have the tents and everything.
But then there were the woods and stuff.
And so my cousin and I were like,
hey, we're gonna go ride our bikes.
We'll be back and our moms were like,
okay, make sure you come back in like a couple hours
because we're gonna have dinner, no problem.
Well, we started riding our bikes through the woods
and we legit got lost in the woods lost and we're two city kids
We don't know the fuck we are. So we ended up writing and we thought to ourselves if we just keep going down the mountain at some point
We should hit a road which was actually the smartest thing
I think that we could have done it worked out for us
Six hours later. It's dark. We're in the woods. We finally see a road.
We hit the road and we start walking our bikes all the way up and we're like, if we keep going
up on this road at some point, we'll reach a ranger, we'll tell them what's going on. Well,
luckily my dad was driving around looking for us and he found us, picks us up, takes us in the truck
all the way back to the campsite and beats the the shit. No, he had it they talked to us
But ultimately our parents knew that the punishment was our fucking fear when they saw this yeah, yeah
I'm a 12 year old kid. I've been lost in the woods for five hours
Mm-hmm. You don't need to punish me anymore
And and I think with the situation like this if I had a 16 year old that did this and it got out to the school
And the principal was involved and everything.
I would sit down and be like, look, you know, well, don't you feel as in the premise of
that law to protect minors, right?
So if the miner is the one that's doing that, that doesn't seem like that equates to the
same degree of punishment.
No, and it doesn't, it's just like, it's like drug laws.
Like we think to ourselves, like, oh, you over there are doing drugs.
We want to protect you by throwing you in jail
and ruining your future opportunities for getting jobs.
That doesn't really help them, does it?
If we really want to help them,
I think there's a different approach.
Again, where are the parents here?
I mean, I just don't imagine you skip right
to videotaping sex with your boyfriend and send it
to your friends and you didn't do a lot of other shit leading up to that.
Like, you mean the dick pic and booby pics
and probably masturbation videos
and there's gotta be a whole series of things
that lead to the library.
Yeah, there's gotta be a whole series of things
that leads up to, hey, I got a good idea.
There's an order.
There is.
Yeah.
It was like, you can't.
There's heavy padding.
Yeah, new part right now. Right, it's not like I got my iPhone on Thursday Friday I'm shooting a
porn with my boyfriend you know I'm saying I'm 16 like no she did some shit
leading up to all of this before it got to this point
and where's mom and dad at where's mom and dad at with the conversations leading
up to the point I agree with you though as far as like she's probably scared
shitless now.
It's probably ruined her reputation.
She'll probably have to move high schools over it anyway.
And she's like, obvious, like these kids,
they don't know, like we're trying to protect them
from making stupid ass decisions like that.
And now you're gonna punish her
for the rest of her life for something she did as a minor.
I told my son, I've told him to say, listen,
you send any pictures
or you receive any pictures.
And if either one of you is underage, technically,
you could get arrested on child pornography.
I told him this.
So I'm like, you be very, very careful.
But here's a deal.
Okay, and this is true for fucking, you know,
40 year olds out.
But when I was 16 years old, you have me alone
with a girl that's 16 and
both of us are into each other.
My logic is gone.
I am not logical at all.
She could be like, hey, let's make a video and put it on broad, you know, broad cast on
TV.
Sure.
And I got a bone stream and I'm 16 with a boner.
I'm like, sure.
Yeah.
It's all about the way.
Let's do this.
Let's show everybody.
So I don't feel, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm talking about?
When you're in that state of mind,
of level 10 horny,
you're nothing good to sit at all.
The problem is now we have,
that's why I don't blame the kid.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't blame the kid at all.
They just have a good conversation.
You got a big fucking trouble.
I'm pretty sure she learned what I'm saying.
It's like you're bringing out there. it's in the news, all that.
Like that acts as the deterrent.
That's why it's like, it's good to have cases
that you can, as a parent, you can like point to,
as like examples, the scare the shit out of kids.
But like, yeah, like, I just don't find it right
that you punish the girl like that.
Yeah, no, I don't like it.
Anyway, what's this thing about the DOJ going after Google?
You were talking, who's bringing that up early? No, I was, yeah, no, I read it. Anyway, what's this thing about the DOJ going after Google? Who's bringing that up early?
No, I was.
Yeah, no, I read it in one of my articles this morning that they're coming after them
as like a advertising monopoly.
I don't know if it's going to hold any water.
And the department of justice is going after them because they think that they're...
Yeah, because they think that Google, I mean, you have Google Amazon Facebook, literally
like own like all of advertising.
And they're just saying on the internet.
Yeah, on the internet.
And there's what they're trying to claim or what they're trying to say is that they're
kind of like a monopoly.
And so they're trying to figure a way to break it all up.
Now, I think they came after, I believe they did this to Facebook already in Amazon and
have tried to do things like this in the past.
And I think they did this with Mike.
Remember that big Microsoft thing that happened to you?
Way back when and that fell through too,
they weren't able to say they were meant to do it.
You know how you break up a monopoly on advertising?
You come up with a better way to advertise?
I think and that's their, I think that'll be their argument.
Yeah.
So I don't know if it's gonna hold water, not for a second.
Because there's no barrier to prevent you
from competing, you just have to outcompete them
or come up with a way to,
and I mean, this is how tech works.
This is a new technology.
And Google's just doing a fucking good job.
That's why they're so dominant.
But there are other ways to advertise
and put your shit out there.
It's just, Google's doing a damn good job.
I do not know.
You know why they do this, right?
This is not because the department of justice
really thinks they're a monopoly and they need to protect us.
That's not at all what they're doing.
They're doing this because they want control.
Google is big and powerful.
Facebook is big and powerful.
And so every once in a while, it's like the mafia Don,
who, you know,
want to flex a little.
Yeah, they walk into your store
and they got the big buff dudes, you know,
with the bats or whatever, like,
hey, we're just paying a visit.
Yeah, I just want to make sure you're doing anything, right?
What happens if businesses go well, huh?
Oh, no, everything looks good.
Oops.
Yep, we'll see you later.
Oops, I broke your window.
Yeah.
You know, you guys have fixed that, right?
And you're just like, we better be.
Remember, we'll come by again.
Yeah, that's all it is, but Google does a good job.
I mean, what are you gonna do?
There's other search engines that you could use.
Yeah, it just suck.
It's a net scape.
It has to do with that.
And they're trying to get in there with the privacy rights
and everything too, which, you know,
I go back and forth on all this stuff too
with advertising like, it doesn't bother me
like it bothers some people.
Like some people just are just, there so they see like they get
Advertised something that they were already looking at and they're like oh my god how they know that they reading my emails
They read my text are they listening in through my phone how did it know and I'm more like this like fucking cool
I didn't have to they are I didn't have to search for the shit already yes, and yes, yeah
I wanted I wanted that shit and now it's 50% off it got advertised to me
You know it knew because I was searching or talking about it yesterday
I just got I just was scrolling through Facebook yesterday and an ad pops up with the this t-shirt
And it's got this cool design and whatever on the back of it. It says just definitely
I'm like what the fuck they literally changed the shirt and it's obviously not a shirt
They're changing the ad with my last name and I'm like, well that's kind of smart. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. I can't get away from it. I'm playing my
hearts online, which is through like some other random app and there's like this real small bar at
the top and that, you know, advertising is constantly getting put up there while you're playing cars.
Never used to distract me. Distracts the fuck out of me now because it's all the shit I've been
looking at all this week. You know what I wouldn't have a problem with?
I wouldn't have a problem with the government just informing us and being like,
all right, look, here's what we found that they're doing with your information.
It's up to you what you want to do now. That's fine.
Like, the government doesn't do a lot of things very well, but every once in a while they do
something that's effective, like their campaign against cigarette smoking widely effective.
They'd actually reduced cigarette smoking. They didn't have to ban cigarettes.
They just had to tell people, here's what's going on and they did force the packaging to change
a lot of stuff. But I wouldn't mind if they came out and said, hey, here's how they're using
your information. Here's where it's going. This is what they're recording. Do what you want.
It's totally up to you. I don't mind that, but going after them and trying to apply force, it's just them flexing. It's just the rival gain.
Yeah.
It's all right.
Well, along the lines of more tech news, I know iTunes, I think today is actually that
they have their big annual conference or whatever, and they announced that they are breaking
up iTunes officially, which I think has just been a long time coming. I mean, since 2001, they've had...
Oh, you mean they're actually gonna put energy into...
Podcasts.
Right, right.
And I think it's just, again, back to like free market
and the fact that it's forced them to do that.
What's happening?
You're seeing companies like the iHeart radio,
you're seeing Spotify,
you're seeing all these other platforms come in.
I mean, iTunes was one of the first
that really revolutionized post-NAPSTER era, you know,
how we actually were to stream and get pay for streaming digital media.
Well, now you've got all these other platforms that have came out that are very, very niche
and focused on areas and better than iTunes was ever, and they've been just kind of chilling
on it for a long time now.
So now they're going to start to break it up in some ways.
That's good news.
It is good news.
It'll be interesting to see what happens
with podcasting, what happens with music.
Yeah, it'd be great if they just like put focus
on the user experience because like to be able
to search specific episodes and that's still a pain in the ass.
And it's like, all they have to do is just like
some minor tweaks and we'd have a much better experience.
So I believe that's what's happening.
I think that's the first step in this whole process is to first divide it all up your music,
your movies, your podcast, everything so it has its own separate apps.
Yeah, because then you have different functions, right?
That are more applicable to whatever they're looking for, like podcasts.
Like you said, Justin, it'd be great to search topics among other podcasts.
It's kind of difficult to do.
And I have to reload it all the time.
It's such a, yeah, a lot of times I'm scrolling.
I have to like go through their whole catalog
just to find that one episode that that person was on.
You know, it would be great to be able to share sections
of a podcast.
Like there's times where you're listening to an hour
and a half, three hour podcast, Fitz Joe Rogan,
and there's a 20 minute clip that I want somebody to hear.
Like, you'll be so nice,
so I could just send over right there
where they can pick up and listen
versus send them a whole episode of three hours
and say, hey, listen to this, we're gonna get three hours.
Just ask us iTunes, you know,
we got a lot of ways that we can get.
We have all the answers, yeah, and ideas.
So this weekend, just what I did, what did you do? Because I did a lot. So this weekend, just what I did.
What did you do?
Because I did a lot.
So, oh, really?
I did.
Well, so here's what I did.
Probably not as exciting as what you did,
but you know how everybody, you guys have been hammering me
for, I don't know, four years to start watching Game of Thrones.
Oh, yeah.
And on all the seasons, there are over shows over now.
And now it's over.
Is it like an open season?
So I started the first season.
I'm on episode eight, I think of the first season.
And it's not bad.
It's not bad.
Are you downplaying?
I had it.
It's got cool stuff.
It hasn't totally wrote me in yet.
So I can't guarantee that I'm gonna like keep watching,
especially all eight
Episodes in so how many is it ten ten episodes for the first season? I think it is. Yeah, I think it is
So I'm let me know after you get done. Yeah, so it's it's but it's it's it's pretty well made
I it's not a hundred percent suck me in yet, but it's good. It's good. The first yeah the first season trying the
Yeah, the first season is a lot of like...
Bro, the whole...
Let me tell you something.
Can I just tell you something though?
Jessica and I were just half the time.
I had to get over my disgust.
That show is all about fucking terrible shit.
It's all about incest and weird fucking shit and...
Yes, but like look at history.
Like how similar is,
I don't care, it's all those things
to like a real history.
It's still terrible.
Of course that is.
That one episode, you guys probably don't remember,
but where they went to the sister of the queen or whatever,
and she's weird and she's got her like nine year old
sucking on her feet.
I forgot about that. And he's like, he's literally sucking on a nipple and he comes got her like nine year old second on her feet.
I forgot about that.
And he's like, he's literally sucking on a nipple
and he comes up and like,
there's some fucked up stuff in the show.
And the child actor sucking on a nipple.
For this part, I was like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Yeah, there is moments like that.
Dude.
Dude.
Yeah, I mean, it's just gonna get more weird.
Yeah, coming to me after like halfway through season two or so
because I feel like the whole first season
is like laying the groundwork of the characters
and you're kind of like trying to piece it all out.
You gotta get vested into them and that.
Yeah, it's definitely, every...
I'll keep watching it.
And then they fuck with you.
That's the best part.
I'll keep watching it.
Speaking of series, I actually, I, you know,
I was telling Katrina the night
because we finished up on another series
and I was like, man, I know like one of our show that we really like should be coming around by now. I hate when you had to wait
like the whole year, right? This is why Netflix was so smart the way they released to the
whole season when it does come out. I got hoaxed last year on a one that I never talked
about that just season two came out just a couple days ago and it's really good. It's
called Bad Blood. I think you guys would like it.
It's kind of a sopranos gangster kind of mafia.
It's a Netflix one.
It's only on its second.
What's it called?
Bad Blood.
And this is the second season?
Yeah, it's just the second season just started.
But it's a cool sopranos type of...
Oh, I'll start that up.
Let's do a check.
Yeah, I just finished the Cobra Kai, their second series.
Is it good? Yeah, dude, it's so good. I wish it was on another platform because I would
bring it up and everybody's like, I don't have YouTube TV, you know? Like it is kind of
like an exclusive platform, but it was so good. It gives you all the nostalgic feels,
just like stranger things, but on a karate kid level. Really? Like all the songs, like
all like the funny shit. There's like a lot of making fun of millennials
in it, which is fantastic.
We're always like, we always like to jump on board with that.
Yeah, because we're old guys.
Yeah.
You know, speaking of fields, I watched Aladdin.
How was that?
Really good.
Yeah.
Really good.
They will Smith Crush it or what?
We'll Smith did a phenomenal job. Disney is amazing at casting that's right. They're really good at casting their whole experience sound the cinematography the everything the dance scenes were choreographed choreographed incredibly the
They were very active. They stayed to the story. So it's basically the cartoon
But you know in this form or whatever.
But they did a phenomenal job.
The characters that play Jasmine and Aladdin,
they picked them perfect.
I mean, absolutely perfect.
They sang real well, they performed really well,
good looking fresh faced, Disney style or whatever.
They have to take the kids to see that.
Yeah, it was really, really good.
So I think, I mean, it's actually one of those movies
that I would not mind, Jessica watched it twice.
She watched it with my daughter,
and then went back and watched it.
Wow, that good, huh?
That's cool.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind watching it again.
So we talked about a while ago,
shooting guns with like the clay pigeons
and like going to the, so I did that.
Yes, yes.
How was it?
Yeah, I did that with my brother-in-law
and like my father-in-law. It was so epic.
Like, that's my new passion.
Like, some people play golf, like for the first time
and like to get the itch, like that never happened for me.
It was like golf was, yeah, that's cool.
You know, whatever.
Like I might have some fun hitting a few shots
that are good and then doing shitty,
did the whole rest of the time, you know?
But this one was like, oh my God, it was just like everything you'd want at the same time,
it was very much like golf to where you have,
you have your specific holes where I'm getting the clay
is going in this direction, that direction at the same time
and it took me a while to warm up, the first few,
but then I started to get it.
And then once I got it, it was just like, bam.
Now are they far enough to where you have to lead?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay.
So you have to be able to calculate some of them
are faster than others that like zips like a cross
and you can barely see it.
And so you have to come slow, some come over the head.
They got ones that like one shoots across the ground
rolling, two shoot up in the air, you got three.
They're rabbits too.
So they're rabbits that like bounce like on the ground,
unpredictable, you know, ways were just like kind of jumps and stuff.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
Now you're allowed to take multiple shots,
we'll make you do a bunch of CQ.
Two, boom, boom, just two.
Oh really?
Now what kind of shotgun did they have you guys use?
Well, we all brought, well, my brother-in-laws,
both brother-in-laws in my father and I brought
their guns, so I just used their...
You know what they were?
No, I don't, I don't really, like,
I know one was a Remington,'t I don't know like I know one
was a Remington, but I know the brand. How did you load it through the side of the bottom?
Both both. Yeah, interesting. I'm fucking I'm held down for that. Yeah, we're going so much
now that I feel like there's two. Once there's two of us of the four that have done something
I think we could persuade everybody else like we're making it happen now. Yeah, dude, because I've
I'm shot. This was this was a totally different experience.
It's just too close.
We have one in our backyard.
Yeah.
It's so close to us.
Yeah, new sport.
Like I can get into it, you know?
But yeah, I did that.
And then I actually went to a festival.
I went to a comedy show.
Oh, man, like this comedy show was so brutal.
I, I really wanted to support it
because there's like a new club
that's trying to open up in Santa Cruz
and they don't have any kind of comedy
You know to go see and visit but all they had was a local comedians and so we were just kind of there
Like trying to see if it's any good or anything and they put together kind of an act that was like a show where it was like
Supposed to be like the end of the world or whatever they sit us in the front row and like okay
Of course because they need people to fill in and all that. So we're trying to be real supportive and give
courtesy laughs or whatever, even though it's fucking terrible, right? Half the time. And
then there's this guy that's like maybe four people over from us that was the biggest
heckling piece of shit. Oh my, like almost ruined like the entire thing for everybody, everybody's just boo.
And they kept feeding him,
that instead of ignoring him,
they kept feeding him and highlighting him
as being an asshole.
It was like the most uncomfortable,
like I'm in, I'm a hostage in this place experience ever.
It was crazy.
Watch, watching a bad comedy show.
It makes you so uncomfortable.
Oh, it's so rough.
It was the worst.
I've never been to one like that.
Oh, when I when I worked across the street from that comedy club got to know the owner and GM really well
And they gave me access any time I want so like I was in a comedy club like three times a week. Oh, that's rad
Right. So I was in there all the time and it was cool for like a year there. I was like in there every single week multiple times a week
And it was just a cool thing to meet all these up
and coming communities.
And the San Jose one either gets somebody
on their upward trend of their career
or somebody on the downward.
Like if you're big and famous, you're selling out SAP.
Like you're not going to a small 150, whatever.
Like the cobs or ever going to San Francisco.
Right, you're on your way up
or you're on your way down in your career.
And on your way down sometimes cool
because I saw some big name people
that were just kind of towards the end of their career
and they're still talented and good.
But everyone's, while you catch somebody
who's up and coming and they're amazing
before they become famous,
but then you see a lot of just people
that are trying to get off the ground.
And there would be nights, man, where, and they do,
and they'd have it like on Wednesday night would be like the kind of the amateur night where five in a row are like these
comedies just starting. And it's just painful when they're not getting any laughs. You feel
so bad too, bro. And I was trying, like, that was the thing. I felt like, oh, you're trying,
so I want to support you and what you're trying to be funny, but like, a lot of it, I'm like,
did you even write this out at a time? Like, practice or anything?
Like, it was so bad.
Like, but there was two guys that actually did have
a well-written act and the headliner was funny.
And so we tried to leave on a positive note,
but it was like the most, like I felt just like a prisoner.
I just couldn't leave because I was in the front row. You know, I wanted wanted to leave dude. I feel so bad for comedians because I think it's well
I mean, I'm even watching like it's got to be one of the hardest. Oh, dude
I can't imagine I can go up and speak in front of an audience. No problem
Like if I'm laugh if I'm yeah, exactly if I'm speaking to something that I I either feel confident about or I'm
Passion about all day no problem. I'm totally comfortable in that situation
or I'm passionate about all day, no problem. I'm totally comfortable in that situation.
Ask me to get up there and make the whole place laugh
and laugh after laugh.
Oh my God, that's a lot of pressure.
It makes me sweat just in about.
And it's not just trying to make them laugh
because I can make people laugh
when they're there to listen to me for information.
I, going to make people laugh where they're to laugh.
Like, okay, make me laugh.
You know what I mean?
That's totally different.
Like, punch lines.
Yeah, if I'm talking about fitness and I throw in a few zingers, they're not expecting it Like, okay, make me laugh. You know what I mean? That's totally different. Like, punch lines.
Yeah, if I'm talking about fitness and I throw in a few zingers, they're not expecting it,
and they laugh a little bit, totally different.
But if you're sitting there and you're like, people are sitting there and they know they're
like, okay, make me laugh, but make me laugh, asshole.
Make me laugh.
Holy shit, that's got to be one of the hard, the comedian say that it requires 10 years.
Yeah.
Did you guys watch Shob Showtime yet?
No.
Oh, you guys still haven't seen it. Was it good? Not yet. You know, I think he's I think he's came a long way from when he first started.
I think obviously I like Joe Rogan's, I mean way, way better. I mean, it's been doing it for a long time. Yeah. And he's seasoned.
It was his thing was interesting to me. He because he plays on stage, you know, because Brendan's making fun of himself.
He does it like he talks like he's as if he's like a pussy.
And it just, I have a hard time allowing, if you didn't know who he was, then maybe like
you can get behind the character of him kind of making fun of himself and being kind of a
pussy or whatever that, but I know he's not a pussy.
You know, you know, you see, yeah, it's kind of a badass, you that, but I know he's not a pussy. You know what I'm saying?
You have to see five.
It's kind of a badass.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's, I guess maybe because I already know him
and know what he's done in the past too,
it's just kind of hard for me to listen to him stand up there
and kind of make fun of himself and make him,
but I know he has to humanize himself.
So I know if he's gonna go somewhere in comedy,
you can't come off of it as a bad ass in comedy.
So I know he's gotta try and do that.
So it probably is part of this process
that he's going through.
Yeah, I mean, having no experience,
except for his podcast, and then getting a deal like that.
Right.
I bet you he made a lot of comedians jealous.
I'm sure.
A lot of people have been busting their ass,
and they see like, oh, now you're up here doing this,
you know, because you got a Netflix deal, right?
Well, the Netflix? No, no, no, it's a showtime deal. now you're up here doing this, because you got a Netflix deal, right? Was it a Netflix?
No, no, no, it's a showtime deal.
Showtime deal.
I mean, that's a big deal.
Oh, of course.
Guys worked their whole career
just to try to score one of those.
It's funny, it highlights just how social humans are
because we're talking about how uncomfortable we are,
watching someone bomb, and it's really because we evolve
to feel other people's emotions.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I fuck, I'm not on stage.
Why the hell am I feeling this terrible feeling?
It happened to me when, when, you know, we went to my son's graduation for eighth grade.
He went up there and did this like speech on reflecting back.
And I was like, and he's my son.
So there's a little bit more, but I'm getting nervous.
I'm getting nervous for other kids who are going to do another things too.
HydeBerset had the same thing because
My son's his championship baseball game was Saturday and
It was back and forth back and forth and there was plays like I'm please make the play please like I was feeling
Everything like like I was just beside myself eating a million seeds
Just like like pacing, you know, I couldn't even stand it.
These kids didn't even have that kind of intensity in this game.
I was like going crazy.
Well, that's one of the reasons why sports is so awesome to watch is because you feel like
you're literally evolved to feel what you're, I'm not playing shit.
I'm on the couch eating potato chips, but I feel like I just crushed, you know, my opponent
because I just watched you play with anyway. Anyway, speaking of my son, I wonder how he's, you know, you guys, by an opponent because I just lost the play.
And I was speaking to my son,
I wonder how he's, I brought, you know,
you guys, no, I brought him to work today.
Yeah, we got to work in today.
He's working hard right now too.
No, so you know what I did.
So I had a conversation with him on the way here.
And I'm like, yeah, exactly.
I said, listen, I said, you've never had your ass beat.
Have you?
No, that's not what happened.
I was telling him about when I used to work for my dad.
Now, he's coming here to work and he's working directly
into Rachel and I told him to do everything that she says
and she's gonna rate you at the end of it
and that's gonna tell me whether or not
I'm gonna let you do certain things when you come back home.
But, and he's kinda like, oh, you know,
he's a little bit like I'm waking,
I can tell he's kinda like, oh man, it's summertime
and I gotta go work, I can't just hang out in my buddies.
And I'm like, you know, when I was your age,
I used to work the summers with my dad
and it wasn't in a fucking studio.
It was, I was outside, I was mixing cement,
I had to wake up at 5 a.m.,
I had to wash buckets with freezing-ass water.
I had to carry buckets of shit
and if I had to go to the bathroom,
it was, I was lucky if there was an outhouse.
If there wasn't an outhouse,
I had to figure out like what to do. Like you have no bathroom, I was lucky if there was an outhouse. If there wasn't an outhouse, I had to figure out what to do.
Yeah.
Like, you have no idea.
I feel like that old man that tells the story.
I had to catch a ride from this guy that worked for my dad at 5am.
If I didn't catch it, you just leave me.
One time he left me.
And I had to walk home miles, dude.
I was like, no.
That taught me.
Yeah.
I was there bright and early.
And then on and then the whole rest of the day,
I'm loading trucks, just breaking my back.
So, you know what, you know what my boy's doing
is he's, you know, he's helping with shipping.
So, it's, you know, it's putting stickers on shit
and packing things up or whatever.
So, I gave him a little bit of the,
the, the, organify purer.
Oh yeah.
So, I'm like, this will help you focus.
I was gonna say, you should tell me
you have full access to the thousands of dollars of supplements. So, I gave him some, I was, the, the, organify pure. Oh, yeah. So I'm like, this will help you focus. I was gonna say, you should tell me you have full access
to the thousands of dollars of supplements.
So I gave him some, I was, yeah, I gave him some pure
and I asked him earlier, I said, so what did you notice?
He's like, I think it was more focused.
I felt like I was moving a little faster.
I'm like, all right, whatever.
We'll, we'll mix in some caffeine next time.
See what happens.
I'm gonna do it, but yeah, I know, I guess he's doing a good job.
So what's the deal?
What did you tell him so far? I see, is this just today, are you gonna do a, but yeah, I know I guess he's doing a good job. So what's the deal? What did you tell him so far?
I see, is this just today,
are you gonna do a couple days this week?
No, I'm gonna do a few days this week.
I'll show you what I sent,
I'll read to you when I wrote what I sent to Rachel.
So I told, I told, I first asked for permission
because obviously he wouldn't be following me around all day.
We're in here podcasting whatever.
Right.
So I said, you know, you're gonna be doing
what she wants you to do. I asked
your permission. I said, what do you think if my son comes in and just is your assistant
and you'll do whatever you want? She's like, no, that's a great idea. So I said, at the
end of the day, I want you to rate him on his attitude, his accuracy, his cleanliness,
his speed. And then I want to overall score. And I told my son, I said, if you don't get
a perfect score, Then you get zero electronics
So if you want to be able to play video games and shit with your buddies or whatever and text them
Then you need to get a perfect score. You can't even get one that's below. Yeah below a five
Yeah, and so dad is coming out the hammer. You know what though?
I think that's totally reasonable. No, it is perfectly reasonable number one
The kids these days are on electronics
all the time, anyway, I'm not gonna feel bad
about telling them not to go on the show.
No, he's just earning it.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
Yeah, and he got a free lunch too.
I just bought him lunch, so, so there.
There we go, I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what I fed him.
That's right, kid.
And you get electricity.
You know what I'm saying?
If you get a perfect score, a warm blanket.
You get a perfect score, the sheets stay on your bed.
That'll score?
You guys sleep on a bare mattress.
Oh, man, I remember those days.
You just start.
That'll be bare mattress.
If I didn't make my bed in the morning, my mom would,
she'd tear all the sheets off my bed.
I was like, box springs, what's that?
You know what it didn't work though?
Because she'd tear all the sheets off
and I'd just get all the bed and just put them off and you're going to sleep.
She's going to take it to the next level.
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Alright, our first question is from just a boy and his dad.
I know how you guys feel about Olympic lifts with a barbell. What are your thoughts on
the cannibal versions of those two exercises? Does the lower barrier to entry form wise give them a
place in people's workouts? Okay, first of all, I want to, because I feel like he's assuming that
like we're anti Olympic lifts. I think he-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-album-al where you can perform them perfectly because they're so technical and they require so much skill and mobility
that we don't often recommend them
and they are exercises that if you do wrong a little bit,
the risk of injuries high, unlike other exercises.
Yeah, and actually Mike Selimmy and I,
he actually went over this in terms of how to prep yourself
into getting into cleans and
snatches by using high poles and these things with kettlebells and getting familiar with
that expression of power and that transfer of force and being able to control all that.
The kettlebells are great for that because it's central. Your load is very central to your body,
which is more safe.
Yeah, it's more safe.
It's better for you to be able to handle
and to be able to guide it more effectively
without putting your limbs.
The further your limbs get away from your body,
the more we're at risk.
Well, not to mention it's more constricted
on a barbell too.
There's a bar room for play with a ketobel.
Yes, you have to follow a very vertical line
and your body has to follow the bar versus with the kettlebell.
You can sort of manipulate that
and it's not going to get away from you quite as well.
Yeah, it's easier to learn how to do a proper kettlebell movement
like a snatch or a clean than it is to do with a barbell.
But I do want to be clear that doesn't mean it's easy.
No, no, it's easier, but it's still very complex.
It's a great place though.
There are steps.
I think you're starting with like a PVC pipe and working in conjunction with kettlebells
way before you get and you progress to barbell.
Yeah.
I mean, I would like to see that with a client.
Like, okay, here's where we're, here,
I'd like to show them like with a PVC pipe
so they can see and by no, I am no expert in this
and I've expressed that before that.
I wouldn't even be someone who taught this,
but if I were to teach it,
I would be showing the mechanics with a PVC pipe
so they understand what we're aiming for
and then a lot of the practice and the skill
would be with like kettlebells.
Yeah, really, I mean, it's working on that triple extension
and what that looks like.
A lot of people, it takes a long time
to even establish that part first.
So like you're saying a dowel bar or having a kettlebell
to be able to get through that just one part of the movement
is where you wanna start.
So yeah, there's, I definitely don't wanna deter people
from trying to learn the skill of it.
I think that's great to work your way up
towards something like an Olympic lift
or something along those lines where you really do,
like it's a great exercise for its intent
and to be able to show and display
like a controlled, powerful movement
that your body can produce.
So, but there are like, you just have to do your diligence
of like starting out and segmenting it
so you can accomplish each part of that movement.
It takes a long time.
It takes a long time to get someone to be able to do
an Olympic lift properly with the right mobility,
instability, and strength and technique.
It takes a long time.
It could take somebody who's,
you could take an athlete with decent movement and technique. It takes a long time. It could take somebody who's, you could take an athlete with decent movement
and mobility, a year just to be able to be good at doing it.
And here's what I like about kettlebells.
I love the kettlebell swing.
The kettlebell swing is, yes, it's still technical,
so I'm not saying it's easy, but it's far easier
than an Olympic lift.
And so if you want a client to gain some of the benefits
of doing an explosive hip-hing type movement,
kettlebell swing is a great movement
because it's easier to learn.
If you're off by a little bit,
it's not as dangerous as if you're off by a little bit
with a barbell, it's still bad,
just not as scarier as bad.
And it's just an easier way to learn
and you get a lot of benefits.
Like, here's the thing about Olympic lifting.
You know, what do the carryovers?
You get explosive, but a lot of the carryovers
are specific to the barbell lift itself,
the technique that's involved.
If you just want that explosive hip-hinging movement,
you'll get that with a kettlebell swing
if you practice that and do it properly.
And it requires, again, it's a lower, just like the words, I like the word he used here,
it is a lower barrier to enter. It is a lower barrier to get into explosive hip-hinging movements.
Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think that's the greatest thing that the kettlebell provides
is that ability to express that powerful hip-hing movement in a controlled fashion.
Like you can really control that process, the more you refine it, and it's relatively
safe if you're not in a compromised position with your back.
Well, to a sound point about how great a catabell swing is for a hip-inch, I think the important
part of somebody who's thinking about doing Olympic lifts or wanting to do that is really
understanding why they want to do that, is really understanding
their why they wanna do it.
I think sometimes we see stuff on Instagram
or we hear these people doing something
and you go, oh, I wanna do that
and you just wanna do it to wanna do it.
And that's something that can be really dangerous
when you're talking about that type of a lift.
And if you don't have the prerequisites to do that lift,
probably not a good idea,
but really unpacking the whole purpose behind why
you wanna do that, because there's lots of other exercises
that have, lots of benefits that are also
in the Olympic lift.
It just happens to combine a lot in one.
That's what makes it so incredible is it's this
such a complex movement that you get this great expression
of mobility and power and stability and hip hinge.
Like, you get all these great all into one movement.
It's like, wait a second.
That's what makes it so special,
is it's a great expression of all of those
in a single movement.
But if your goal is to get good at expressing all those things,
you could actually unpack it and break each one of those components down
and get really good at your mobility.
Just by doing a lot of other things,
get really good at hip-hing from a bunch of other
things.
There's a lot of things that you can get great at expressing power and triple extension
by doing it in a lot of different ways than going right to a barbell Olympic lift.
It's like, understand your why, why am I doing this, unpack that and go, okay, let's start
to segment these different parts that are so great about that. Yeah, and I could easily validate the need
for a power clean for football in that first play,
that first snap, like who snaps off the ball,
the quickest and throws their arms up.
That is part of football.
That is, you could see that directly translate.
And to be able to do that that and then now work on loading that
sequence makes a lot of sense to me versus overhead snatch didn't make any sense.
Now we're just getting too fancy.
Yes, the difficulty goes way up, the risk factor goes way up.
I'm not going to put my athletes in that kind of a risk position, but I do definitely
see the value of that movement just for Olympic lifting though.
You know what's interesting too is when you look at the way that the kettlebells and
Olympic lifts have been trained historically, Olympic lifts because of their skill and technique
involved, historically have never been trained to fatigue. There's never been, until CrossFit came along,
which I completely disagree with,
there's never been an Olympic lift-based sport
where you're doing as many as you can for time.
It just doesn't exist.
Olympic lifts are, if you watch Olympic lifters train
like real Olympic lifters,
you're using sub-optim, or wait that's way lower than your max,
and you're practicing the technique and the speed,
technique and the speed, it's all about the form
and the technique for the most part,
and really you're only really maxing out
when you're competing, and you're doing one rep.
It's not reps after reps.
Now, kettlebells historically,
competitions are all based around stamina, lots of them,
where they're swinging for minutes and minutes and minutes for fatigue.
Now, what does that tell you about the two movements?
Well, it tells you that the kettlebell has a lot more give.
There's a lot less risk of injury versus the Olympic lifts.
If you Olympic lift to fatigue and you're doing 10-minute sets of Olympic clean and presses,
I bet you the risk of injury is way higher.
People would be hurting themselves at way higher rates than with kettlebells.
And I'm not saying kettlebells are risk-free by any means,
but when you look at the way that they've been used.
Right, so if you like to do hip-pinging as part of your fatigue-based programming,
kettlebell swings are more appropriate.
And to that point too, there's two different styles.
There's more of a hard style, which is that pure expression of power and tight controlled power versus the endurance where you're
like managing your energy throughout that entire process. So there's just a little bit of new
ounces there that again, we have these videos on our YouTube if you want to check them out.
Next question is from Emma Lekowski. What is a good way to strengthen bones?
A personal trainer told me that I have low bone density
according to one of those handheld devices
and told me I should sprint.
I don't want to hurt myself and sprinting is a skill
I don't have.
My grandma had osteoporosis, so it is something
I do think about wanting to prevent
uh... what a handheld device that's bone bone density i think he's full of shit or she's full of crap about i don't think there is a handheld device that measures
bone density anyway um what yeah terrible terrible terrible
terrible advice because, okay, yes, sprinting has been shown to increase bone density, especially
in the lower extremities, but you want to know what's better than sprinting, lifting weights.
Built some muscle.
Yeah, there is support to bone.
There is nothing better at building bone strength than consistent shear tension and force,
like the one you get from resistance training.
And resistance training is far safer than sprinting
because sprinting, and I'm glad that this person said this,
that it's a skill I don't have,
sprinting requires a lot better mobility and skill
than just traditional resistance training will,
especially because resistance training
are really modify for the individual.
A sprint is a sprint.
And if a person has bad running mechanics,
it's not a good idea.
But lifting weights, boy, I'll tell you what, look,
here's a deal, we know lifting weights builds muscle.
That muscle is anchored onto what?
Your bones.
And if those muscles are pulling
on the bones
and getting stronger, your bones are gonna respond
by getting stronger.
And I'll go out in a limb and say that there is nothing,
there is no form of exercise that's more effective
for bone density than resistance training.
I had a client a while ago who actually hired me
for the purpose of reversing her osteopenia.
And nothing she had done had worked.
She tried walking and of course calcium supplements and magnesium supplements vitamin D.
They even had her taking this really strong, immunosuppressive drug.
I forgot the name of it to help.
And really none of them really worked a whole lot, and she was losing, and she was a small framed lighter individual, so she wasn't a big
heavy person, she didn't like to eat a whole lot or whatever, and she was older, she was
in her late 60s, and finally at a desperation she came and hired me as a personal trainer,
and we were so effective at stopping and reversing her bone density
loss that her doctors actually created her, used her as a case study and put it out to Stanford
University and said, look at this person, look how much her bone density has changed over
the last two years that she's been doing weight training. And I would do an appropriate heavy lifting with her.
And I say it's appropriate because she was an older person and she didn't have a lot
of strength, but it made a huge difference.
And it's just like anything else, if you send the signal for your body to adapt, it will
adapt.
So taking all the calcium and supplements in the world, I'm going to build bone if the
body doesn't want to build bone and resistance training does that better than anything.
Sprinting will too, but what is sprinting more like?
It's more like lifting weights than regular running is, right?
It's an explosive movement.
It's that anaerobic type of activity.
Not to mention, it could potentially be counterproductive
in the pursuit of building muscle too.
So, if you're doing too much of it.
Yeah, no, if you're doing a ton of sprinting and you're not eating and training enough, then
it could be counterproductive because you're not building muscle.
And building muscle will be one of the best things you can do to support this.
And plus, it's, when you have bone loss, it typically, it can happen through the whole
body, especially as it progresses.
Sprinting mainly improves bone density in the lower extremities.
There is some carry over to the rest of the body, which is kind of cool, just like there
is with resistance training, but it's not as effective as it is for the direct areas that
are being affected, which is the lower extremities.
Well, guess what's awesome about resistance training?
You work out your whole body.
So you can strengthen your spine.
You can strengthen your ribs, your shoulders,
your arm bones, your leg bones, your hands,
your feet, your hips, just by doing resistance training
for the whole body.
So it's funny to me that a trainer, especially,
is like, hey, your bone density's low,
which I really would like to see this handheld device,
Doug pulled one up, but I'm not accurate.
It is.
I've never even heard of that.
It's funny that a trainer wouldn't say,
come to the foights with me.
Yeah.
That would be the first thing that I would,
and his traditional resistance training,
train for strength, that'll give you the best effect.
The circuit type stuff, you'll get somewhat of an effect,
but it's not gonna be,
it's just so much more versatile.
So, this sounds like one of those tools that like the commercial gyms insert to find
ways to drive more revenue streams.
So, it's like, oh, I already have this client.
They're already way training with me.
Let's check out our bone to see if it's, oh shit, it looks like you don't have good.
That means you need to take this supplement, this one, this one, this one, and then we're
going to add sprinting into your routine.
Yeah.
That's what that sounds like.
No, it's funny.
It's the recommend calcium,
like crazy for people to prevent,
and what they found with the calcium is it didn't prevent,
and it actually started to see calcium deposits
in people's arteries, which can be a bad thing.
What they found was that, and if I'm wrong,
my apologies, but I'm relatively positive,
the studies show that vitamin D has the greatest effect on bone.
And so if you're somebody that is, you know,
if you don't want to get osteoporosis
and it runs in your family, or if you're in,
if you're already showing some bone density issues,
I would go, I would supplement with vitamin D
or better yet get lots of sunlight and lift weights.
You combine those two things and that's probably your best chances of, you know, strengthening
your bones.
Next question is from Alejandro Sanchez takes photos.
If someone gets to the gym and they aren't feeling it, but want to get their lift on, what
would you recommend?
That's, that's kind of tough.
Yeah.
It, this depends on, for, and I, I, I hate when we have to start with the sentence like that, but I mean,
I feel like if I'm, if I'm, there's been many versions of me since this show has started
and all different versions respond differently to this feeling in this moment.
If I'm getting to the gym and I have this feeling that I don't really want to lift, but I need to get it on. And I have serious fitness goals like I'm
trying to make crazy gains because I'm in compete mode. I'm pushing through this at
the cost of potential health and rest and all other things. If I'm Adam, increase testosterone levels naturally, and that's more of a priority
than the way my body looks to everybody else, I might choose to rest here. I mean, this
is, and then also I'm also questioning myself, because I'm very careful about how I respond
to a question like this, because there's there's a lots of different types of people that
This that could be hearing this right now, and I've had the client who
Looks for any excuse not to work out, you know, so oh, they don't feel good. Oh, no, what should I do?
Yeah, you know, I'm saying so that they're looking for a reason to
Not train because it was a long stressful day at work
And so therefore today,
oh, the kid stressed me out today.
Therefore, I don't work out.
Oh, I didn't get the greatest sleep last night
so I didn't work out again.
And some of them use everything that these moments
as excuses not to lift.
And that person probably needs to lift here.
That's a great point.
Yeah, I think too.
It's like between it being a psychological issue
versus like your body's's really telling you,
I'm tired, I'm beat up, I physically don't feel
like I wanna do this workout.
There's a distinctive difference for me
like going into the gym,
and if it's a psychological issue like that,
that's something that I'm trying to check into,
work my way through, but maybe not start initially
with ramping the intensity I would
if I was feeling great and charged,
but I'm always balancing those two things.
Is it really my body that needs the rest
or is it my mind that is just not there?
Yeah, I rarely, rarely tell people
to completely take the day off from working out
because there's so much you can do to modify your workout.
Look, here's a related example.
It won't sound like it, but it is.
When you look at birth control,
that the classical birth control pills,
you'll see that the old way was they recommended
that women took a pill every day
and then seven
days out of every month, they would go off birth control to initiate a period or whatever,
right?
But did they tell women to stop taking the pill on those seven days?
No, they kept taking a pill.
It was just a placebo.
They actually put a fake birth control pill in the cycle.
Now why did they do that?
Because studies show this consistently
that when people get into a rhythm
and they stop that rhythm, they forget or they just stop doing it.
So that's why I usually tell people not to take the gym,
take it off.
Now, if you're a fanatic, like we are,
not a big deal will take the day off.
But most people, I say, no, go to the. And go easy, just go easy, work on mobility.
I did this the other day, the other day I was tired,
I didn't get good sleep the night before,
and I knew I had to go work out.
So what I did is I went to the gym
and I told myself, I'm gonna use 50% of the weight
that I normally use, and I'm gonna focus heavily
on the range of motion and the squeeze. And I'm going to focus heavily on the range of motion and
the squeeze. And I had a great workout. I didn't have to expend a lot of energy. I had
a great workout. I got a good pump considering I wasn't feeling it. And it was just I changed
it. I changed it because I wasn't really feeling it. So rarely do I recommend people don't
go because you got to stay keeping that rhythm. Keep in that rhythm.
I was plenty of restorative movements that you could work on
and that the gym has all that there at its disposal.
So yeah, just changing and shifting your,
your intent with your workout would be everything for that.
And exercise done appropriately can help facilitate recovery.
So if you're like, even if when people tell me,
I'm so sore from the workout that I did yesterday,
I'm really, really sore, I'm feeling run down,
should I still go to the gym?
I'll say, yeah, go to the gym, use really lightweight,
go super easy and just focus on full range of motion,
it's gonna actually help you with your recovery
and make you feel better and it keeps you on the routine.
Right, when was the last time that you know somebody who felt like this and then decided and then
switched over and did a whole hour of mobility work?
Like how many people need that?
Everybody.
How many people listening right now could totally benefit from a full hour of pure mobility
type of work.
So I would normally urge someone, I would rarely ever tell someone to take it off unless
I'm topping you to somebody who is a gym fanatic
and they're, IE, my peers, my competitors that are.
They're the ones that can take a day off.
Right, because they have an obsession with working out
to where they have almost a bad relationship
with exercise to where they can't not work out.
So it's good to tell that person.
So you really have to have a come to Jesus
with yourself here and figure out where you're at
and your journey
And are you the person who's more likely to overdo it and over train and do you need a scale back day so much of fitness
Consistencies momentum, you know, I know I don't take a lot of time off from the gym
But I know I've had injuries and even for me getting back to the gym
It feels like I got to get the ball rolling again
So if you want wanna maintain your consistency,
I would not take a day off, I'd go there and go easy.
Like don't lose the momentum.
Like once you lose that momentum,
and Pete you guys know what I'm talking about.
People are listening.
Yeah, people are listening right now,
you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Think about the last time you stopped working out,
something happened that couldn't make it to the gym,
I was on vacation, and then I just never went back.
You lost that momentum.
So keep that momentum and just adjust the workout accordingly.
Next question is from Andrew Beth.
Here's the scenario.
You have a day to eat whatever you want
with no consequences.
What do you each eat for each meal?
This is every day for just a consequence.
I never have consequences.
But I'm not gonna have things I gotta deal with in a very down-end, but...
Yeah.
This is a...
This is a funny question because it's strange.
First off, I do eat whatever I want.
This kind of a question, the way it's posed, it makes me think of how many people have
poor relationships to food where it's almost like it makes me think of how many people have poor relationships
to food where it's almost like, hey, if you could have sex with as many people as you want
and your girlfriend would never find out, there'd be no consequences.
You know, who would you, like, okay, the only reason why I don't eat this kind of food
is not even necessarily for the consequences.
Like, I'm fully aware, I actually enjoy the food that I eat
because of all the other benefits it gives me.
And if I wanna have a donut or a burger, I'm gonna have it.
So, it's just an interesting question, you know what I mean?
It's almost like people feel like they eat healthy,
but it's not what they really want, which isn't true.
The truth is you do want to eat healthy.
You're just not fully acknowledging
that you like the taste of other food,
but you don't really want to eat it,
because you know it's not good for you.
And that's okay.
I think people confuse that and think,
I really want this, but I'm forcing myself to do this,
and oh my god, if I had a magic pill,
or a magic wand, then I could do whatever I want.
Like a cup.
Yeah, this just feeds into the punishing yourself,
sort of mentality
in like, same thing with exercises.
Like I ate this.
So therefore I need to run this amount to be able to burn this off and, you know, pay
penance for my sins, you know, and I think with food, if we can step outside of that cycle,
like that's everything, like, and that's something we always try and stress.
But it is one of the
things. It's like, if you really want something and it's drawing you, you know, so much to
go consume it, like you have to evaluate, like, what is that? What's that mechanism that's
driving and pulling you so hard to like enjoy this forbidden pleasure?
It's the restriction. It's the restriction.
And it's what do they say, what you resist persists?
It's like because you've restricted yourself
and you act like your own tyrannical dictator.
So like you separate,
cause think about it, you do separate yourself.
You say, I can't have that, I can't have that.
Said, women, you can't.
You know, of course you can.
So it's like you're you're
you're oppressing yourself. That's how you're viewing it. At least that's how
you're treating it. So it makes that that you know that that that's that food
even more what's the word even more alluring even more mysterious. Oh my
God. Can't and say you have more power. And so you ask questions like this like
could you imagine without any consequences?
Like if I could just do whatever I wanted,
like okay, you're making it a bigger deal than it is.
And part of it is because you're viewing food
in a way that's probably not ideal or healthy.
This person hates this answer.
I was just gonna say so.
They want that.
Pat, now that we're done lecturing you,
I'll give you just a crazy day of you,
which by the way, I've done this before.
So if I really wanted to, I too would do this,
but I would start my morning off
with a stack of pancakes,
smothered with peanut butter and syrup,
and then I would have a biscuits and gravy
to wash that down.
And then for lunch, I would have burger and fries for sure.
And then dinner, it would be a brisket with mashed potatoes
and then red velvet cake for dessert.
That's just, wow.
Okay, so we're gonna be real here.
Yeah.
Let's go down the rabbit hole, huh?
And I have, I'm totally do like a soldier waffle.
Like nothing but like a ton of butter on top,
you know, and just drizzle the shit out of it with syrup.
And you know, wash that down with a huge coffee.
And then we're gonna go for lunch.
I'm gonna have like a tritip sandwich
from that place in San Luis Obispo.
Add some cheese in there though,
they never have cheese in it, I don't know why.
They shouldn't have cheese in there.
They should, right?
They're trying to have a sandwich,
I don't put cheese on my chest.
No, they usually don't, which, I'm okay with it,
but it would just enhance it, is all.
That's all the same.
Everything is better with cheese.
It just enhances it.
Everything is better with cheese.
Cheese are bacon, those are like your enhancements.
We're gonna make you a T-shirt that says that.
Everything's better with cheese. And. Those are like your enhancements. We're gonna make you a T-shirt that says that.
Everything's better with cheese.
And then, yeah, for dinner, probably a deep dish pizza from Chicago, duh.
That would kill me.
That whole day, I think I would have to look, I don't know, whatever.
Let me think, if I could eat anything with no consequences, the hearts of my enemies,
that'd be awesome.
You can have a consequence.
Probably ice cream or dairy related, I would think.
You know, you got to miss dairy sometime.
Yeah, it's not that big of a deal to be quite honest.
I mean, pizza, I really enjoy pizza quite a bit.
I learned a long time ago, like the wanting
is actually more than the having.
Remember the first time you learned that?
Oh my god, I want to have that food.
That's part of the swing that like candy, dude. That's part of the swing that you guys remember the first time you learned that? Oh my God, I want to have that food. That's part of the screen that like candy, dude.
That's part of the swing that you guys,
that you have been through,
which makes it difficult to answer a question like this,
is because you've gone through this whole phase
of being able to intuitively eat for so long
that you have now connected the dots
to so many other things than just the pleasure of the food.
So it's hard.
Yes, so I value it for so many other things.
Right.
So since you've done such a good job, it's actually very hard to, like I wouldn't, I just
named all those things off, but you can have those on now if you want.
Right.
And I wouldn't, because I also know what my sleep would look like that night.
Exactly.
And I know she's saying without all the consequences, I get that, but it's too late.
Now we've already made the connections of how good
eating well makes you feel.
Not only that, but now that you know that,
and we've made that connection, right?
Do you not imagine if you ate every day
with no consequences, would you still throw days in
with lots of vegetables and healthy foods?
I would because now I enjoy them differently.
I enjoy them now, I've already created those connections.
You know what I'm saying?
I remember when Justin went carnivore,
the thing that he continued to,
every day he would come in on carnivore
to talk about how much he craved vegetables.
Yeah.
Of all the things that he wasn't eating,
vegetables is what he craved the most,
which was hilarious.
Yeah, it was funny, but it was true.
I literally, every day, I would just think about it.
I started to dream about it even just because, I guess it was because it was so restrictive.
It was like, I knew it was just meat and it was like, it's one of those things that
started out kind of great, but it just, oh man, like just having one thing, it's not
sustainable.
Yeah, yeah, anyway.
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