Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1053: How to Stop Bingeing, Whole Body Workouts vs Body Part Splits, the Impact of Alcohol on Workouts & MORE!

Episode Date: June 14, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about influencers and bodybuilders who use body part splits ins...tead of whole body workouts, the best way to stop bingeing, how alcohol affects workouts, and if they would ever do a powerlifting competition. Mind Pump: Preparing you for the end of the world. (5:07) Mind Pump’s newest sponsor providing the audience their BEST night's sleep, ChiliPad. (10:17) The myths surrounding the percentage of marriages that end in divorce. (18:45) ‘Mukbang’ the new YouTube sensation! (30:28) How Spotify pursues emotional surveillance for global profit. Going down the rabbit hole of the future of marketing/advertising with Mind Pump. (34:05) Beverly Hills becomes the first U.S. city to ban tobacco sales. (44:30) The importance of taking sleep seriously and testing your levels when it comes to your gains. (48:10) At what point will eating fish not be considered healthy? Monterey Bay littered with tiny plastic pieces, a new study finds. (52:57) Mind Pump pop culture hour. (55:14) #Quah question #1 – You have talked about why whole-body workouts tend to be superior to splits, but it seems all the influencers and bodybuilders on social media utilize a body part split and look amazing. Can you speak to this? I am someone wants to transform my body. (1:00:05) #Quah question #2 – What's the best way to stop or help with a pretty bad bingeing problem? My relationship with food has been so bad for so long, I just can’t seem to figure out how to fix it. (1:11:58) #Quah question #3 – How does alcohol affect your gym routine? (1:24:01) #Quah question #4 - Would you guys ever do a powerlifting competition? Why or why a not? (1:33:27) People Mentioned Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Sandra Lee, MD, FAAD, FAACS (@drpimplepopper)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Code “STRONG50” at checkout** Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** iGen: Why Today's Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us – Book by Jean M. Twenge PhD What Is the Divorce Rate, Really? Mukbang Millionaire: Inside the slurp-tacular success of a shellfish-sucking superstar Spotify turns our emotions into data, and then profits off of them Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. Laws Governing Subliminal Messages in Advertisements | Chron.com Beverly Hills becomes first U.S. city to ban tobacco sales Visit Everly Well for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Swings in dad's testosterone affects the family -- for better or worse -- after baby arrives Levels of plastic pollution in Monterey Bay rival those in Great Pacific Garbage Patch Big Little Lies - Official Website for the HBO Series - HBO.com Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, obite, ob with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of The Mind, Pa! Alright, so for the first 45 minutes or so, we have a lot of fun. We do our introductory conversation, and that's before we get into the fitness stuff, here's what we talked about in this episode.
Starting point is 00:00:27 So we start out by talking about Adam's big earthquake prediction. He's like, Nostradamus, apparently, there's gonna be a big earthquake. At some point. At some point in the future. Yeah. So I'm pretty sure he's gonna be right.
Starting point is 00:00:39 No, he will be right. Then we talked about the game changing sponsor that we're now working with, the chili pad. So we just started working with chili pad. This is a water cooled pad that goes on your bed, no EMF, so there's no electronic frequency that comes off or whatever. Cools down your bed has been showed to get people to sleep,
Starting point is 00:01:00 95% faster, and almost double their deep sleep. Adam now no longer has to wake up to go pee in the middle of the night. So he's no longer annoying the shit out of Katrina. Who ha? Thank you, Chili Pat. By the way, we have of all the podcasts, the biggest discount on the Chili Pat.
Starting point is 00:01:18 So here's what you do. Just go to chileetacknowlg.com that's spelled CHIL I L I technology dot com forward slash mind pump and use the code m p uler so that's m p o L E R for 15 percent off the ruler that's the one that's controlled with the phone app that's the most advanced version. Then I talked about the common knowledge that proved to be false that half of all marriages end in divorce It's not half the actual statistic is much better than that something like 70% actually stay together and succeed Why the hell have we been lied to for so long? That's all I've heard then just Adam brings up something called mukbang
Starting point is 00:02:01 So it sounds just as it's as bad as it sounds. Mukbang. Yeah, listening to the episode, find out what we're talking about. Then he also brought up how Spotify is doing emotional surveillance. This is where they're kind of figuring out how people's emotions are affecting what they're listening to. And that may actually affect how you're getting advertised to.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Holy crap. Creepy. Brain a fam, by the way, that's just them brought that up. That actually affects your moods. That works. And helps you sleep. We got a discount with them. Go to brain.fm-fort-sashmime-pump and get 20% off
Starting point is 00:02:34 if you want better focus and better sleep. Then I talked about how Beverly Hills is no longer selling any tobacco at all because you know, Beverly Hills healthiest place on earth. I said no, never. Exactly. Then I talked about Everly Well, and how my cousin is using their at-home testosterone tests and found that improving a sleep increases testosterone
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Starting point is 00:03:11 Then I talked about how Monterey Bay, they just did some tests there and found that very sad. There's as much plastic particles in Monterey Bay as there is in the big Pacific garbage patch. Just kind of sad. Socks. Then we get into the fitness portion of this episode. First question, we talk a lot about whole body workouts and how they're better than splits for most people,
Starting point is 00:03:31 but influencers and bodybuilders, they always do body part splits. What gives? Who's right? The genetically gifted steroid taking bodybuilders or the guys who've been training everyday people for 20 years? I don't know, find out in this episode.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Next question, what's the best way to stop or help builders or the guys who've been training everyday people for 20 years. I don't know, find out in this episode. Next question, what's the best way to stop or help with binging problems? So if you're somebody that finds yourself gorging on a bag of potato chips and then later on feeling guilty and sad about it, listen to this part of this episode. We discuss strategies that have helped our clients in the past. Next question, how does alcohol affect your gym routine? So we get, go in on alcohol, how it affects you negatively,
Starting point is 00:04:09 and believe it or not, the positives of alcohol. And the final question, this person wants to know if we've ever considered doing a powerlifting competition. Also, this month, maps strong, one of our most effective muscle building and metabolism boosting workouts is 50% off. Now this workout is unconventional. So you're gonna be doing exercises you may not be used to.
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Starting point is 00:04:55 dot com and use the code strong50. S-T-R-O-N-G five zero for the 50% off discount. Go do it right now. Hey, so tell me about that crazy prediction at him. Oh, I was just I was just watching Lindsay from almost 30 there, which by the way, I think their episode goes up coming up here real soon here. Dominica. Yes, Sunday, almost 30 girls.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Lindsay was posting a story on some podcast that she listens to that I guess the whole thing is all about the whole podcast is about the big earthquake that's coming and she you know ordered her three day survival kit. I was asking you because she's talking about it's not a matter of if it's going to happen or not. For sure, if you don't believe in science and like, so she's just, it's for sure coming that this massive earthquake that's supposed to be crazy. And I asked you what your thoughts were on that. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It was like a scape from LA. Yeah, for sure, there's going to be a bigger earthquake at some point. It's one of the biggest, we're on one of the biggest faults in the world. So yeah, at some point, there's going to be a massive earthquake. We're destined for one up here. Yeah, in fact, at some point there's going to be a massive of our guests and throwing up here. Yeah, it's in fact, I think, uh, if there's a big enough earthquake Southern California, a part of Southern California can sink into the ocean.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. Or was that like a plot from Superman III? Yeah. Was that Superman III? Yeah, it was Kurt Russell, dude. Escape from LA. No, wasn't it the one where? It surfed out of it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Wasn't it the one in Superman where, uh, Lex Luger shoots the nuke into the fault and it causes such a big earthquake and then Superman gets down there but just in time to like stop Southern California from floating off but fails to save Lois Lane. Remember she gets buried in the car. So then Superman, this is where jump the shark, this is where that term comes from or part, this is a good example of it. Superman who can do almost anything, then does something that's just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:06:50 He spins the earth backwards, which I guess, apparently makes the earth come back in time. Oh, yeah. Logic. Yes, remember that? I don't remember that. He flies around the earth. I do, just super fast.
Starting point is 00:07:04 He flies around the earth backwards and causes it to spin backwards. Which if they really have it. Yeah, imagine. That would destroy the world. All the oceans. All the oceans is like smashing to like every like landmass. Like everybody just flies off kilter. Their hands explode.
Starting point is 00:07:21 He was like a spin back. He would have gone back in time. He just killed everybody, dude. The great idea. It's like a member of Ferris Bueller when his buddy takes his dad's Ferrari. And then he puts myla on it. And so he's like,
Starting point is 00:07:35 Oh, in order to get the myla job. I'm gonna go backwards. Let's drive the car backwards. Sound logic. It doesn't work. So you're saying I shouldn't order my three day safety kit? No, you should. Well, if you already ordered the mine calendar one, I feel like, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:07:48 No, you should have a double up. Actually, you don't have a kit, like an emergency kit? I don't. Really? No. Oh, yeah, you should. You have one I just had. Yeah, I have just like a little first aid and a little survival kind of set up, like with
Starting point is 00:08:00 water and shit and lights and the batteries. What does that look like? It's just basic. It's just like, you know, a few mag lights. Yeah, like some, just still water. Like what the fuck is that gonna do? There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Some chlorine pills. No, you need water, canned food, you need a gun. Water, thank you. That's actually, that's true. It is. That's one of the most important things. You as the gun is gonna get all the shit. If shit goes down, like really goes down
Starting point is 00:08:30 where you can't emergency services can't reach you, which has happened with Hurricane Katrina. There were people who were stranded for days. And then the next thing happens is looting, right? Looting. Yeah, so you want to go in the Bible mode. Yeah, or let's say you didn't pack your emergency kit, or let's say you didn't pack your emergency kit like you like let's say you didn't pack your emergency Your neighbor but I got yeah
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah, exactly I got my I got my gun Be don't hey neighbor You pack a safety kid because I forgot my Good morning. How you doing good Good to see you're okay. I'll take that can of tuna. You have a lot of tang here. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah, I'm gonna use that. Do you know where the emergency natural emergency stores of water are in your house? Because there are places that you can get water in case of an emergency. Let's say you lose your water. There's a place you can get water. Toilet.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, the tank. That's right. The top of the tank. Not the right. The top of the tank. Not the bowl. Unless somebody does the upper. Unless somebody uppercurs you, yeah, exactly. I thought I heard too that toilet water is like as clean or cleaner than any other water that you got run into.
Starting point is 00:09:35 On the tank. Yeah. Yeah, the top tank. Not the bowl. I feel like the bowl looks nicer. Huh? The bowl looks nicer. There's probably got stuff in it.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh, the top looks worse. What do you mean? The bowl doesn't look nicer. Mm-hmm. There's probably got stuff in it on the top looks worse. What do you mean my ball doesn't look nicer? Yeah, I know your bolt doesn't look nicer. His bowl looks like I followed you again this morning His bowl looks like there's been a car chase You know that they just did burn out. Yeah Like on the back road. Yeah, we're somebody flushed a bullet. Chili. Yeah They're gonna on the dirt back roads in the South.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That's disgusting. Stop it, dude. That's so terrible. But anyway, yeah, you need to have an emergency, like an emergency gun. Hey, guess the only thing that you need. Oh, man. Hey, guess what?
Starting point is 00:10:17 I am fucking pumped about right now. Whoa. Is it the thing that I was right about again? No, what is it? Yes, it is. What is it? What are you right about? Are you gonna talk? No, what is it? Yes it is. What is it? What are you right about? Are you gonna talk about the chili pad?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yes. Yes. I have been waiting right on it. I got that. I'm the one that hooked that up. Oh, you, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:10:34 I seek them out. Yeah, I got this. I'll be stealing credit from Taylor. Oh my gosh, this is terrible. Really? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. You were the one that sent him on that?
Starting point is 00:10:41 I sent it. I didn't remember this. 100% sent him on that. Oh, wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, of course. So at our last event in Manhattan Somebody asked a question about I don't remember what they asked something about our sleep. Yeah, something about our sleep And I was only on like day three of using the chili pad and we weren't we hadn't even like finalized a contract They weren't even official sponsor yet and I said I know Taylor's gonna be mad about this But I got a fucking share it with all you guys in person.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So if you're listening in your at the Manhattan event, you know this already, but holy shit, the chili pad is the real deal. And I'm absolutely in love with this thing. So I just have right now, you know, Taylor got a few of them shipped over to us for us to try and I got mine hooked up first and I've been using it for the last week. And this thing is fucking badass.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So it's a mattress pad that goes just right over your mattress, right? And then my sheet goes to the top of it. And then it reminds me of those units, like if you had knee surgery or whatever, that have the cool water running through. Yeah, and this is, so it's EMF, there's no EMFs in it, it's all water cooled. Yeah, so it doesn't have wires or anything like that. Yeah, right, exactly, so it's all water.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And it's so thin that you don't feel it or really notice that it all underneath your mattress, and it's really comfortable. And then it's hooked to this cooling unit, and this cooling unit is controllable. Now, the chili pad is the original one and then they have ulla, which is the newest one that just,
Starting point is 00:12:09 that's the one that you're using with the app on the phone. Yeah, so that's what just got released. Ulla. And that you have an app so you can control this thing. Now, what I do like today, it's set to kick on about four o'clock at my house and drop it down to about 58 degrees, which is where I found
Starting point is 00:12:26 that I like love this thing. And what's neat, and it took a few days before I was like, is this really fucking making this big of a difference? Yeah. Because you guys know, and I've talked about this on the show before that, I get up on a regular one to three times. So annoying.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Anybody who shares a hotel with you, is real with you. So, you listen to this. I think like a rock, so that's like, if you've listened to this... I think like a rock, so that's about me. If you've listened to the show for any length of period of time, you know this, because Adam talks about it, talks about how he has the bladder of a child,
Starting point is 00:12:52 and he has to wake up every night, one or two times every single night. Right, so now I've assumed that this has everything to do with my bladder and pain, and because for 37 years of my life, it's just how it's been for me. But what has happened since I've been using this thing is I have had full nights of sleep almost every single night.
Starting point is 00:13:11 The other night I actually woke up one time, but every other night. Not to be clear, you still pee, you just don't wake up anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I sleep the entire night, and I think what it must have something to do with is, you know, I run hot and when I get under my sheets,
Starting point is 00:13:28 even if it's cool in my house, eventually those sheets warm up so much with my body temperature that the heat wakes me up, that makes me probably have to go up. Well, human body, the things that help dictate whether you sleep or wake up or light, we already know that, right? So if it's bright in your room, it's hard to go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:13:49 If it's dark, your brain gets the signal to go to sleep. And so, and obviously because our bodies evolve with the sun rising and falling and setting, the other thing that helps dictate sleep is temperature. It naturally cools down at night and it naturally warms up as the sun rises. And so cool temperatures in your bed, and this is widely accepted.
Starting point is 00:14:11 This is actually one of the most, in terms of sleep, one of the most accepted things that can positively contribute to quality sleep. And what I mean by quality is people sleep, they go to sleep faster. So studies will show that when people use devices like this to cool down their bed, they fall asleep 95% faster.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So the time it takes you to go to sleep is cut in half. And then the deep sleep, the deep sleep stages in some people doubles. So this is what I'm feeling right now. As soon as I'm hitting the pillow, I'm out. And I'm out hard. And then I wake up and I'm feeling right now. As soon as I'm hitting the pillow, I'm out. And I'm out hard. And then I wake up and I'm feeling like I've gotten sleep that I've never had before in my life. So this is tripping me out, like how amazing this is. And don't get me wrong. Like I've talked about all the great things that I've noticed with the blue blockers before bed. Like that stuff has
Starting point is 00:15:02 made a difference, turning all my electronic, all those things have helped out. Nothing has made as big of a difference as this thing has right now. I'm getting some of the best sleepers out. Now here's the cool thing with the Uler, is that you said, and correct me if I'm wrong, you can program it so that it slowly starts to warm up when you wanna wake up.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yes, and so this is the piece I haven't done yet. So what I haven't done is, because I've just, I mean, it's only been a week that I've been playing with all the settings and I've been finding the perfect temperature that I like it like it at. Because at first I wasn't sure like how it regulates this. And if like, if I would still naturally heat it up and I get there, but no, whatever temperature you set it at. It keeps it up at.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Right. And so when I get in there, of course, my body's 90 something to degrees. So the thing is working all night long to just manage it at whatever temperature I set. So I set it at 58. It keeps underneath my sheets this cool 58 degrees, even when it's warm in my house. Yeah, it's rad because I noticed the only times I really wake up is when my body temperature has woken me up. Like I get up and I'm like, hot and I have to open the window or I have to like,
Starting point is 00:16:04 you know, go get some cold water or like hot and I have to open the window or I have to go get some cold water or something and that's the pain in the ass. Well, it has two sides too, right? So, I'm only using one right now. So, I'm only using the single. One side. Yeah, they have all kinds of models. So, they have models that... Like, one side can make there a certain temperature, the other side can make sure. So, yeah, they have levels, right? As far as this thing can range from, I think, the cheapest model is like 300 all the way up to
Starting point is 00:16:28 1500 dollars based off of what size bed you have if you want both of them controlled, if you want the cooler one. So you can control both with one pad or if you're supposed to. That's like the Cadillac, right? Which is what I want to get next now that I know that I love it. And so Katrina can, because Katrina likes it way warmer. So I could keep her at like 80 degrees and I could drop me to 58 in the same bed. Wow. Yeah, so that's great.
Starting point is 00:16:52 So I knew this would be a game changer because, so this is how I heard about it. I had gotten a couple, because I talk about sleep a lot and I had a couple DMs of people who were asking me, what do you think about the chili pad? Now I thought chili pad. What is it, what is he talking about the chili pad? Now, I thought chili pad. What is it?
Starting point is 00:17:05 What is he talking about? So after I had a few DMs, I noticed that Greenfield, Ben Greenfield, talks about them. So I said, okay, let me ask Ben about it and Ben raved about it. So I did my research on it and that's when I got the, I got us hooked up with the CEO and I sent that information over to Taylor to work something out for us because I know the science and I know that, the things that I was worried about was, is this gonna have EMF or is it like an electric blanket?
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's not, it's cooled by water. Is it produced a lot of noise to where you're not able to sleep or whatever? No, it's white noise. Yeah, it creates white noise, which is actually helps people sleep. And then I looked at the studies and the studies are remarkable.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So I knew it would be a total game changer. And I'm glad that you tried it first because you easily have the worst sleep out of all of us. You've always had sleep problems. Totally. Oh, no, it's been amazing. So it's been a while since I've been pumped. I know we're very particular about everybody
Starting point is 00:18:03 that we bring on as a partnership, but I'm like pumped about it. Now here's particular about everybody that we bring on as a partnership, but I'm like pumped. Now, here's the thing that I'm very proud about with Taylor, is he negotiated that we have the highest discount. Oh, yeah. So, because the, I know Chili Padded works with other companies, but our discount code is that gives you the biggest discount. Well, I just set mine up.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I mean, it was like a heat wave through here. So I wish I had it going like a couple days ago But I got mine all set up and ready to go so I'm gonna start checking it out and messing around with the settings tonight I haven't I haven't gotten mine yet because I'm waiting for the king size One that so Taylor's got me. No, I can't wait to hear your guys's feedback on it because it's been game changer Oh, yeah, dude, so so I got some mind blowing information for you. Oh, is it blowing? Is it really blowing?
Starting point is 00:18:49 No, you know what? So this is the kind of shit that I live for. I literally live for this kind of stuff where something is so accepted as common knowledge. There's either a statistic or some kind of information that's so accepted that we don't even think to question it. It's just, that's, oh yeah, that's true. That's, you know information that's so accepted that we don't even think to question it. It's just, oh yeah, that's true. That's what we believe. So like years ago when I first realized
Starting point is 00:19:12 that eating small meals throughout the day didn't speed up your metabolism. I remember what that did to me. It blew my mind because for at least half of my fitness career as a professional personal trainer, I didn't even question that. I thought it was so true that it wasn't even in my mind to even think to ask whether or not it was true. It just was. And, you know, a lot, I've learned a lot of those things throughout fitness and I love it
Starting point is 00:19:34 because I can no longer am I, you know, in the dark about something. Well, there was something that was shared with me that I thought, no way that's true. And I looked it up. So I went to a, that I thought, no way that's true. And I looked it up. So I went to a recently, you know, Jessica and I have been going to different churches and listening to people speak or whatever. And part of the reason why I go is I like to see really, really good speakers.
Starting point is 00:19:54 We've been doing a lot of these live events. And I was unaware of this, but some of the best speakers you'll find locally are pastors and people that speak of churches. They're just very, very, forget the religion part, forget what they're saying. If you're trying to learn and study how to speak in front of a crowd, which I'm trying to do because of all of our live events, you can go online and watch really, really good speakers.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But if you want to see someone live, some of the best places are some of these churches. Half of their seminary revolves around teaching them this certain trait. Well, these people practice. They practice practice they speak in front of large audiences like one of the one of the churches I went to the odd the crowd was at least six 700 people so this guy speaking in front of that many people You know several times a week for years of course, he's gonna be good and so he does a great anyway So I went to one and he was talking about marriage obviously it's a church. So they bring up these types topics And he talked about the statistic,
Starting point is 00:20:47 what percentage of marriages and in divorce? Go ahead and shout it out. We've been told 50% but I've actually heard that's false. Yeah, I've heard that's false. False, totally false. It was never right. In fact, that was a myth. It was propagating that.
Starting point is 00:20:59 That was a myth. Currently at this point right now, if you get married today, the odds that you'll get divorced is more like 25%, 20% to 25%. That will. That way lower than the 50% number. Divorce rates were peaking right around the 70s, and the 50% number came from people projecting where they think it's going to go if it continues to grow.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But what ended up happening is it peaked, and then it stayed at a certain point, and then it started to drop, and right now over the last couple decades, we're seeing divorce rates continue to fall. So is this just been like information that just keeps getting repeated without like rechecking it?
Starting point is 00:21:40 Totally. Totally. And so we believe it to be common knowledge. And this really infuriates me because you know, I'm divorced, right? I'm a divorced person. I know what that statistic can do to people. And I think what it does is it either makes you feel like, okay, you know, everybody gets divorced. What's the big deal? I might as well just do whatever. I feel like that statistic will even encourage some people to think that that may be a better option. When you know that, wait a minute,
Starting point is 00:22:05 most people do make it, or what about this? Maybe it prevents people from getting married because they're so afraid of that statistic. I mean, one out of two, that's a terrible statistic. Well, that's part of Ijian dove into these statistics and show that the divorce rate has declined and rapidly declined over the last two decades. The argument that they make is that
Starting point is 00:22:27 because people have become more and more aware that how high the divorce rate was or could be, it's made people wait to get married until they're older and that's starting to. Well, so here's, so I did a lot of reading because this blew my mind, right? So I did a lot of reading and here's what the experts in the field, a lot of experts in the field think happen.
Starting point is 00:22:48 You had a very, very large and necessary women's movement that really took off after the birth control pill. And that caused a lot of problems, mainly because the defined roles of marriage shifted. And anytime there's a big societal shift, we have to kind of readjust. And they think that's a lot of the reason why you had issues because men and women had different ideas of what marriage was supposed to be,
Starting point is 00:23:16 or how it was supposed to turn out, based off of what they thought, because of how their parents experienced it, and now things are different. We've now settled into it, and the reality is that when people make that commitment to get married, the odds are seven or so out of 10 marriages will stay together
Starting point is 00:23:35 and will actually last. And that's good news to hear that, you know what I mean? Because it's sad to think that 50% ended. It's also another, like people use that argument about polyamorous relationships and you know, well, you know, half of all marriages end to divorce and that's obviously because we're not supposed to be married to one person. Oh, that's a big, big, you know, argument they lean on.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Absolutely. And it's totally false. Now, second and third marriages, the divorce rate much higher. And they, and I read about that as well. And they think that has more to do with the complications that are usually a company Second and third marriages because people are bringing other kids into the marriage and then they have X's to deal with I would think that has a lot to do with people getting divorced always think it's the other person and written reality There's a lot of shit. They need to work on themselves Well, they don't ever fix that and they go marry somebody else totally Totally. If you want to, if you want to have a self-selection bias of people who are likely to divorce, just pick people who have already divorced. And if they don't fix their own issues, which
Starting point is 00:24:34 probably contributes to their first divorce, and they go into second marriage or third marriage, obviously, the right one is the foot of the foot of the foot of the foot of the foot of the foot. To your point of the Igen, like, seeing, like, seen back when a lot of people getting married, that was the option when you're younger. I gotta get married and I gotta establish this. As it was a thing that was expected of you versus waiting and realizing this is actually what I want and having maturity going into it
Starting point is 00:25:00 and both partners being in a mature state and making a decision as adults, I think that has to have a factor. Well, I subscribe to that, right? So I listened to, I read a lot of the statistics that were in that book and I think that makes a lot of sense to me because I know where I was at as a 18 year old, a 25 year old, a 30 year old,
Starting point is 00:25:20 and now I'm sort of married in my high school girlfriend. I'm in fuck. Right, yeah. And let me tell you, I thought I was in love at 18, 19 years old. I mean, I thought I could marry that girl. I thought I was going to be with you. Well, you probably were in love, but it was at a different capacity. You were not your full self. So it was for that, you know, version of Adam, which was nothing. Well, I mean, I'm still the same. We're all the same people. You've just continued to grow and learn, right?
Starting point is 00:25:42 And there's certain your values tend to change as you get older and you mature. And so I would think that that would be the one of the biggest changes in that number of declining would be people just flat out waiting till they're older, why is there more mature, a better version of themselves, grown more matured, more values of change a little bit different than when you were 17, 18 years old? That's personally what I think. But I had heard that before, Sal, and I know we were regurgitating
Starting point is 00:26:10 the 50% so people have been waiting longer, longer to get married. But part of it is less to do, in my opinion, with we take it more seriously, because I don't believe that to be true. In fact, I think people take marriage less seriously now than they did 50 or 60 years ago. I think the reason why we wait longer now is because adolescence has only stretched out. Okay, so if you go back to... They make that case also.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, because if you go back to like my grandfather's generation, an 18 year old man was a man. You took an 18 year old from... Right, you were out on your own, you were living a job. You full time job, you busted your ass. You probably started smoking, involved in a war. Igin makes this case too. They make that argument as one of the contributors
Starting point is 00:26:53 to it also is that adolescents and their stats to prove that is completely stretched out the age that kids are getting driver's license, the age that they're leaving home. So of course, that would also naturally push out the marriage. But one of the things for sure is that you can, people are aware of that.
Starting point is 00:27:09 People are aware of how, and even at 25% or between 25 and 30% whatever the number is for divorce rate, it's still a decent number of people divorced. And so that's enough for people to be like, oh, let me wait a little longer. It is because committing to anybody is, I don't care if it's business or marriage or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It's fucking hard, but look, I've met people who have had terrible times. I had a friend whose husband, oh no, sorry, wife, had an affair, then that almost got them separated and divorced, then he had an affair, that almost crushed them, then they went to counseling separated and divorced. Then he had an affair, that almost crushed them. Then they went to counseling and worked it out. Another the happiest couple, and of course their kids now are older now
Starting point is 00:27:52 and they have their first grandchild. I think it's a very, but this statistic of 50%, it's kind of nefarious, that people seem to be pushing this false narrative. It's like of nefarious, this, like, that we're pushing, that see people seem to be pushing this false narrative. It's like, why? Why do you want people to believe so many people, like there's such a high rate of divorce when it's totally false? Why are we promoting that so much?
Starting point is 00:28:15 That's what you're seeing. It is very interesting, kind of infuriating. Now, where did you find the stats to counter that argument? Everywhere. If you Google 50, half of all marriages and a divorce myth, you'll find a hundred articles, many of which come from reputable sources, whether it be like CNN or Fox or psychology today
Starting point is 00:28:37 or whatever, it's never, it wasn't a true, it's been a myth for, and we've known it's been a myth for a long time. We just haven't learned that. It's kind of crazy, right? Yeah, I know that it's crazy. I think 25 seems even low though. I would guess it's been a myth for a long time. We just haven't learned that. It's kind of crazy, right? Yeah, I know that is crazy. Anyway, I think 25 seems even low though. I would guess it's somewhere between 25 and 50.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I thought that's what I read. I thought I read somewhere like 37 or 40%. No, no, no. It's around, they said around 70%, 75% is what I was reading of marriages stay together, which makes me feel a lot better. And here's a deal. You know, people talk about, is it natural
Starting point is 00:29:06 for two people to be together forever or whatever? The thing about humans that makes us special, one of the things that makes us special among all animals is that we rise above our natural instincts and we do things that we find that make us better, that encourage fulfillment, that make life more worth living. It's also our struggle, right? Because we have this ego that we've developed
Starting point is 00:29:33 and this consciousness to analyze things. But there's a lot of things that we do that are counter natural. You know, like if I have a cake in front of me and I don't eat the whole thing, that's counter my nature. My nature is eat the fucking cake, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and not to rain on the parade here with the statistics, but I would actually, there's
Starting point is 00:29:52 got to be, and look this up, because it'd be interesting to see what these numbers are. Maybe it's 30% of the people end in divorce, but what percentage of people stay together and there's infidelity. I mean, how many people are still in a marriage but then cheating on each other, you know, that's so. So what percentage of marriages are perfect? Zero, right. So, I mean, the reason why that doesn't phase me at all
Starting point is 00:30:15 is because I'm not saying it's good or it's right. What I'm saying is it's difficult, but people work it out and most people work it out. And that's a good thing to know, I think. I agree with that. Definitely. Dude, have you guys, and Doug, I wanted to ask Doug, because I figured if anybody in this room knew what this was,
Starting point is 00:30:32 I thought maybe Doug might. Doug, are you familiar with Mukbang? Why would you think I'm familiar with Mukbang? For five dollars. Yeah, I'm kind of kinky. You're a good mukbang. It's Korean. Okay, it's a Korean word that means eating and broadcasting. for $5. Yeah, I'm kind of kinky. Yeah, good morning. It's Korean. Oh.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Okay, it's a Korean word that means eating and broadcasting. So it's like this sensation and it's been happening for like a decade. It's now making its way over the states and becoming popular over here. And there's tons of these YouTubers that have millions and millions of subscribers and viewers. You guys can YouTube it right now, M-U-K, B-A-N-G. And the thing that I watched a bunch, I got sucked down into the rabbit hole this morning
Starting point is 00:31:09 when I was reading this article about it. And it's like this new sensation, you guys know those Instagrams and those YouTube's of like you just people playing with like Play-Doh and you find yourself staring at it and watching it. Okay, it's the same concept only it's people smacking their lips and eating food. Oh, it sounds horrible. I agree. I can talk but what what it is there's there's science to support this that if there's these pleasure
Starting point is 00:31:36 sounds of the the eating of the food and us watching it that stimulates us and sucks us into wanting to watch this. Now you know some people that would do the opposite. Jessica is one of those people. If she hears me too, I'm disgusted by it. That's why you guys will sit next to me when I eat. Exactly. Yes. So I feel like it's the same thing as watching people pop pimples, right? Yes, some people like that stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Girls. Girls like that. Sounds horrible. Weird, right? So this is like this YouTube sensation. And I guess it's been going for a while. I'm just now becoming privy to it. But I watched him this morning. And it's just, it's weird shit.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It's like a stack of noodles, fried chicken, and they're just, they're talking to the camera and they're eating this food and they're talking about it. And they have millions of people that are tuning in and making millions of dollars. Yeah, there's a lot of these pages on Instagram that are similar to that where you're just watching a knife cut through like kinetic sand
Starting point is 00:32:35 or someone squishing things that are squishy. Or people, like Doug said, popping pimples. Those, and by the way, I didn't even know those pages existed until Jessica showed up. Dr. Pimple, Pover. Millions and millions of followers. And it's literally a close up of someone, a doctor, maybe, squeezing shit out of a pimple,
Starting point is 00:32:53 which I find absolutely repulsive. That's the worst possible thing you could show me on a screen, but Jessica loves it. And when we were on our, when we were in Manhattan Beach, she was talking about with Courtney, and Courtney's like, oh my God, I love it too. And they were both fucking talking about how much they love watching people's pimples getting smashed on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:33:13 and they were sharing their favorite pimple popping pages. That's weird. That's a girl thing. Why? Well, here's my theory. Yeah, dude, dude, you ever see chimps like groom each other? I think girls have that natural, that old instinct, you know, to want to like cleanness and pruness and shit,
Starting point is 00:33:31 because you ever have girlfriends want to squeeze your pimples? No, no, absolutely. Yeah, I have. I've never desired to squeeze a girlfriend's pimple. Never. Or guy's pimple. Anybody's pimple.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Never. But girls seem to have this weird instinct to want to do that. It's kind of weird, right? And you think it's an animal instinct that goes all the way back to like, fuck yeah, Watch monkeys do and they try They pull like little ice off each other and they yeah, but is it a sex thing? Is it only the female monkeys that do it to the Males or do the males do to males? I think the why have we evolved out of it and women continue to do it?
Starting point is 00:33:55 I think as they did it to the children probably and they did it to the mates to the males while we sat there and I don't know What ever dude now listen Spotify dude. I've been telling everybody We sat there and I don't know. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, had, they, okay, in 2014, Spotify acquired a company called Econast, and Spotify began diving deep into how people generate and listen to playlists. So to come to find out like our daily mood completely affects how and what we listen to, which I think that's kind of obvious, right? Yeah. So they, like when you, when you broke up with your girlfriend and you only listened to country afterwards, you sell me out like that. I was a great story. I guess so yeah That is a great story That was around the shower for like those around the fire campfire with family talking
Starting point is 00:34:55 Roll me on the bus like Who was I sharing that with you were what you were talking to Jessica it was Jessica Yeah, cuz she likes country. And you said that. I did too. That you got into country because you were dating a girl. She loved country, you hated country. And then you broke up with her.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And you just listened to country to torture yourself. I did. Yeah. It's like 17 years old. And I did that. So you fucking wrap me out like that. It's great. But anyway, so what they're doing is they're trying to figure
Starting point is 00:35:23 out what, like your emotions. Yeah, and your patterns, right? Soify has these different lists that are like you know Moved lifter and happy happy whatever and their pain attention to How everybody is listening to their music now what why does that matter well? It's I guess it's becoming a Commodity for for advertisers I guess it's becoming a commodity for advertisers. So it's very valuable to them to know what kind of mood you're in based off the musical is to know how to advertise to you.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Oh my God. Crazy, right? So when you're sad, I could see this now. It knows, oh shit, you know, Adam's listening to G's coming on. Yeah, Adam's listening to Country again, or whatever, and you're sad. And so now you're getting ads for like chocolate. Yes. Adam's listening to Country again, or whatever. Right. And you're sad.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And so now you're getting ads for like chocolate. Yes. Or things that would make you feel uplifting. Or that you're, yeah. Oh wow. Yes. That is fucking brilliant. It's smart fucked up.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Bro, this is where we are heading in this time. I know we brought up the whole car data thing the other day, now the Spotify, like everything, all of our patterns and behaviors. This is why I totally subscribe to that theory and that weird show that I keep bringing up where I think that the future, and this goes to Tom Billi's point of everything
Starting point is 00:36:35 that can be free, will be free, is just your data is gonna be more valuable than your initial $20 of purchasing my thing. Whatever it is that I'm trying to sell, knowing more detail about you is going to become way more valuable for brands. Well, here's the thing. So advertisers and marketers,
Starting point is 00:36:57 their goal is to manipulate you. And people think of the term, when I say manipulate, they think of it as a negative thing. It can be negative, but manipulate just means, you can say, per sway of it as a negative thing. It can be negative, but manipulate just means, it's a bit... It's a bit... Yeah, yeah, get you to change your perception, get you to want something or not want something
Starting point is 00:37:13 or think a particular way. Now, the key to manipulation, and if you study tyrannical governments that have used propaganda and spent lots of money on propaganda and getting their citizens to believe a certain thing. The key is to keep the people from believing they're even being manipulated. To even think that they're trying to change your mind.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It was my decision. This is something that I wanted to do. So when you go buy something and you come home with it and your wife or husband says, why did you get that? You wanna, it's powerful for you to think, oh this is just what I wanted, not to think, oh it was those ads that got me to do this.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Well think about it, advertising is only annoying to you as a person who's watching TV or as a normal, as a consumer of whatever medium. It's only annoying when you're getting advertised, shit you have no interest in. I'm only annoyed when I'm watching TV and a commercial comes on if something, I'm totally not interested in, but if the only
Starting point is 00:38:14 the commercials I saw were all the things that I was most interested in, boy, does that change the game? So that's where we're heading. We're heading in this time where you're, why waste time advertising to people that probably aren't going to buy your product anyways, we want to know, we're going to get so much data on you that we're going to make sure we serve up only the ads, only the things that you potentially would want. Whoa. Oh, that's
Starting point is 00:38:39 going to be cool. I know. And you think you combine things like Spotify, the car. It's going to know when you're horny, ads gonna pop up. Totally. Yeah, ugly girls in your neighborhood want to have sex or whatever. But by the way, those are actual ads you see on some of those sites, which I think they're brilliant. Yeah, they're brilliant because they're believable, right? Well, I was thinking about brain FM in this whole process
Starting point is 00:38:58 of like how like effective that is and how much like it can alter and change your mood or whether you're focused in meditation, but I see that expanding too in terms of like, uplifting your mood or bringing you down a bit and how that would be able to use that in the future. Did you guys know that, and I think this is correct if I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:39:18 that there are laws against subliminal advertising if I'm not mistaken. So there were studies done a long time ago that showed that if you were watching a movie and while that movie was going on, if a single frame flashed in front of like Coke or hot dog or something like that, that it, more people went and bought Coke and bought hot dogs. That's in that Brad Pitt movie.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Which one? Where the cigarette pops up in the middle and it's like split second, like in the middle. Fight club? No, no, no, not fight club. They showed that in fight club too. Oh, they did. Oh, they didn't. Oh, in fight club, there's many scenes like that.
Starting point is 00:39:52 If you actually, there's like, tits, the just pop up out of nowhere for two seconds. Yeah. Really? Yeah, if you're like Easter eggs, fight club is one of the best movies. It's like, cause you could start to pick up on normal ones. You could see Tyler Dirtin or whatever the guy's name is.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Flash, flash and like, yeah, it shows in. But I believe it's illegal to do subliminal advertising, because a long time ago, a study showed that it actually was somewhat effective. And people got freaked out and they passed laws saying that you're not allowed to advertise. Did that happen with like grocery store music too? Because I think they used to do that with at the grocery store, they had placed certain music that made you want to buy certain things and that used to be a strategy
Starting point is 00:40:30 that they no longer can do. I thought I believe that. Oh, I think they still do that, don't they? Well, they play music that makes you want to stay in the store and shop, which I think that is fair game, but I think before they had like subliminal messages in the music to get you to buy a product. Well, you know that, do you know how much money
Starting point is 00:40:44 and time has gone into the design of grocery stores and where they place products and the lighting and all that shit, you know how much money goes into all that stuff? Oh yeah, how they display it is everything. Oh, it's crazy. Go into Whole Foods, pay attention to the lighting that's above the fruit. It's designed to make the fruit appear as absolutely vibrant and healthy as possible. You get a home, it's all brown.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Fuck, it's all spotted. Yeah, but the strawberry's not glowing red, like it was in there. But it's crazy how much money that goes into this because it's the same thing with plates. Like if a restaurant serves a particular type of plate or color plate or color of what is it called that they put it over the table?
Starting point is 00:41:24 What is the table cloth. Yeah. All those things influence, you know, your behavior and how much food you eat and stuff like that. Well, I think Justin's right. He got it right when he referred to us heading in the minority report. I mean, I think that's what's going to happen is you're just going to be walking down the street and ads pop up all over the place and it's all things.
Starting point is 00:41:40 How long do you think until people start to demand regulation against these types of ads? I don't think so. I mean, personally, at least I don't care. And that's why too, I'm also somebody who doesn't get all freaked out about them watching our data and watching our patterns, because it's not the government who's doing it, who gives a shit about who I am or what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:42:01 It's people that want to sell shit to me. Let's be honest. Money is what drives all of this research. So I should say 90% of it's coming from people trying to make money off of selling you things. And if it means that I'm gonna get advertised things that I'm more interested in, it's just what it's gonna do.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It puts more responsibility on the consumer. Like you now need to have restraint because it's gonna be really tough to say no to the things that you like and when it's being thrown at you. It would be great if you could block like what wasn't working, right? But you allowed what did make sense to you.
Starting point is 00:42:32 So like they could still advertise like that because it's like I do want that product actually, but you know the ones that were like, dude this is fucking annoying. Like they're not gonna make money because you're pissed that they're marketing to you like that. Never show me this again or something like that. It's something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah, I'm with you, Adam, but I do worry because I see what process foods is done to people's health. We have a choice to choose to eat this food or not, but nonetheless, it's so powerful in how it's engineered. It's caused a health epidemic, and it's taken a few generations for people to even realize what the hell's going on. So I think with marketing, it's gonna be interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I'm not worried about getting advertised things that I want. I'm worried about advertisers figuring things out about my physiology that get me to want what they have to sell. Oh, that's common. Do you see how I'm saying? Oh yeah, no, yeah, to be manipulated or have to sell. Oh, that's common. Do you say I'm saying? Oh, yeah, no, yeah, to be manipulated or persuaded to go into different. I mean, that's their job.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Their job is to figure that out. All this data, they're gathering it to do a better job. Because people are not, it's not hard to manipulate people. They did those studies a long time ago that showed, like people's fear of shark attacks spiked after the movie jaws came out and people believed that there were more shark attacks happening because newspapers started reporting more shark attacks but the reality is shark attacks have been the same every single year same thing
Starting point is 00:43:54 with crime if I if I asked the average person you think it's more dangerous today than it was thirty or forty years ago people would say say absolutely, but it's not. It's actually, this is like the safest decade and decades. It's been, uh, crime has been declining for a long time. Child abductions have been declining for a long time, but people would believe opposite. Uh, and, and could, how could that belief be manipulated to get us to want to buy or vote or, huh, buy earthquake packages? Exactly. Exactly. like we said earlier. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Anyway, speaking of along these lines, do you guys know that Beverly Hills just banned the sale of all tobacco products in the city? No, really? The city of Beverly Hills now has banned. What? All tobacco, all, like even like packed pipes in cigars and all that. All tobacco products.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So, yeah, so no tobacco, no cigarettes, no e-cigarettes with nicotine, nothing. Because Beverly Hills says that they want to be a healthy city and blah, blah, blah. I mean, we're talking about Beverly Hills. Right, cocaine's fine cigarettes, not so much. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's what you're talking about. Yeah, there's a plastic surgeon in every corner.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But no, but no cigarettes are banned while selling them as banned. Man, that has to be, they're gonna take a huge hit financially. Well, maybe, or maybe it wasn't doing that big of a deal anyway. So they're just like, this will look good. Oh, get out of here, dude. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:27 How many pitting smoke in Beverly Hills? Probably a fuck ton. You think so? Sure. I would take a lot, yeah. Not a lot of people smoke in, well, I guess a lot of people do smoke, but in comparison, way less people smoke in California
Starting point is 00:45:41 than in other places. I'm sure it's been on the decline, but like a place like that, I would imagine a lot of people at parties would smoke. Yeah. I just think it's funny how attitudes have changed. 30 years ago, if you were walking down the street if San Francisco with the cigarette, nobody cared. If you had a joint, everybody would freak out.
Starting point is 00:45:57 See, reverse now. Yeah. You walked down the streets of San Francisco. Where are we? Yeah, I saw it. So I saw it the other day, dude. I was walking in the city and there was a guy with a cigarette and he must have gotten 10 dirty looks from people and literally five steps behind him.
Starting point is 00:46:11 There's a dude with a joint and nobody said, shit, you might as well just punch a baby. That's it. You know what I mean? Smoking a cigarette. Same thing. Yeah, but no, it's crazy. I wonder how many other cities are gonna follow suit. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:23 That's interesting. To me, it's what they call a virtue signaling. It's crazy. I wonder how many other cities are gonna follow suit. Was it like that? That's interesting. Yeah. To me, it's what they call it, virtue signaling. Like, hey, look at us. We care so much about health. And yeah, you really don't. You just want people to think you do. You're trying to look cool. Well, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:35 It's not a bad thing. It's better, right? I mean, I don't know if it's a, do you think it's really a virtue signaling thing? And I think it's, I mean, somebody there pushed that through to happen. And it's really a virtue signaling thing. I think it's, I mean, somebody there pushed that through to happen and it's probably for the better. I mean, of course I'm a health and fitness enthusiast and so I'm gonna say, yeah, it's bad to smoke
Starting point is 00:46:54 on a regular basis, but I'm also a pro, choose for yourself first. I do if you want. Cigarettes are already so heavily regulated that then outright banning them. You know what'll end up happening. Here's what's gonna happen. Tobacco's getting to the point now. We're starting to be cool again. Why? Because we're so against it. So now that marijuana is becoming legal and at that you're gonna see kids want to smoke less weed, but you're gonna see more kids
Starting point is 00:47:18 want to have cigarettes because it's the more taboo thing. You know, so I don't know how good to ban the actual sale is going to be. That's a good point. That's a good point and I wouldn't argue with that. I think that's, I mean, they've already proven that. Like, that's what happens with every generation that comes up, right? Whatever is the norm or whatever everybody else, the generation before was doing, they revolt, go the other direction.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah, it's not really that cool anymore. I was just listening to some 90s old 90s rap and hip hop And like half of it was about smoking weed. Yeah. And I wonder if it's gonna keep stay that way because it's not that, it's not as tight. We'll never stop. I know that much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 All of those guys now. I don't know, they're old, but they're like 30 years or something they've been like talking about wheat. And it's still like that. Like you look on their Instagram page. It's still like still, just we eat like all these weed videos. Yeah. I was insane in the membrane. I saw it was listening to your thing. Hey man, it's part of the brand, I guess. like you look on their Instagram page. It's still like still, just we eat like all these weed videos. I was insane in the membrane.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I saw this thing too. Dude, man, it's part of the brand, I guess. Dude, I didn't tell you guys what my cousin did an Everly Well testosterone test. Yeah. And then he started following some of our advice for sleep. I know we talked about sleep earlier. So I just thought of this.
Starting point is 00:48:21 He started following our advice for sleep. So he started doing a, you started doing an hour before bed. He turned off the lights and used candles, or he used a salt lamp, or whatever, so it's really, really dim in his house. Or he used blue light blocking glasses. He cooled down his room, black out shades for his room,
Starting point is 00:48:40 and basically just made an effort to try to get better sleep. Did this for two months, got his testosterone and basically just, you know, made an effort to try to get better sleep. Did this for two months, got his testosterone levels checked again and they rose 20%. Whoa. Yeah. Now granted, his sleep wasn't great before. So it's not like he had good sleep and then, you know, he went from good to better. He had not that good sleep and we had this conversation, we had a family party and I was
Starting point is 00:49:03 telling him about, you know, he's asking me, what can I do to impact my, my, my muscle gains and my strength and a lot of stuff. And I'm like, bro, no joke. I said, you know, obviously workout, obviously you're right, you know, you're doing those things. I said, I'm not going to lie, dude, I said, the most single, most important thing you can do is just take sleep seriously. That's all you got to do. Like, right now, you're, you're young, he's in his late 20s. You just go to bed, expect to go to sleep and have good sleep and then wake up. And you get away with it.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I said, but trust me, if you take sleep seriously, go to bed at the same time every night, wake up at the same time every morning, try take like an hour before bed, prepare for sleep, do the things that I just talked about. I said, watch what happens to your gains, watch what happens to your performance. And so he did that, and I told him, I said,
Starting point is 00:49:52 because then he's like, oh, I'm gonna try it. And my cousin needs the kind of person that, if he says he's gonna do something, he'll do it, which I enjoy. So I gave him an Beverly Well test, I said, and by the way, so do this also, test your testosterone now, and then do this for a month or two and then test your testosterone after because obviously you're going to see if you get stronger and you get better gains and
Starting point is 00:50:11 a lot of stuff, but I also want to see if your testosterone levels change at all. So he tested them, his testosterone, and they were in the high average. So his testosterone levels weren't, weren't bad. They were, they were decent. They were pretty good. It still went up 15% and he told me that his strength gains are going up and his libido has gone up since he's been getting better sleep. The hard thing, of course, is the weekends. He's 29 years old or whatever. It's crazy. I feel like we're in such a bubble a lot
Starting point is 00:50:38 of the times because I could totally relate a long time ago to just falling asleep and just like laying in my bed and hope for the best That was like my entire approach to sleep and I guarantee that still like the Like the majority of people like they just go to bed. It's like oh, well, I guess it's time to sleep Just turn light off and and it's gonna happen because you're you're just exhausted Yeah, so you think you're gonna have good sleep because you're just crashed out no process to it at all No, no, so no, but it raised this testosterone level. So I, he ordered another heavily well test
Starting point is 00:51:11 to test this testosterone in a few more months. That's what I like about their test, is that they're inexpensive. You order, you can order like, here's what I recommend to people. If they want to check like hormone levels, test your hormones every quarter. If you're really into like your health,
Starting point is 00:51:28 you know, your fitness, that way you can monitor what effect, if any changes you're making to your workout, nutrition, and sleep are having on your hormone. Well, that's the key, and that's how I kind of use it right now. And what's neat is they actually keep track of all of them. So I can go back and look like, oh, this was when I was falling
Starting point is 00:51:45 that's anabolic. I was really using the red light. I was doing this. I was doing that. And then, oh, this time I wasn't doing any of these things. And then I can compare and contrast like, does that or what, how big of a difference does that make on my hormone levels? So I'm another 30 days out or so before I take another one.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Yeah, you were on the rise. Yeah, so I'm excited to see. Now keep this in mind, let me think. Test your testosterone before your baby's born. Okay, because that was a plan. Yeah, good, because after, in July. Perfect, because then after Maximus is born, you're gonna do a pussy.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah, your testosterone's gonna drop. I bet, it happens to us. No, this is an actual statistic. They find it not joking. Before Adam read that. He's looking at me like, oh, I don't want to turn to you guys. No.
Starting point is 00:52:30 No. No, this is a real statistic. Male, men's testosterone levels drop significantly after having kids. And especially during the first couple of years. And I think it has to do with the increase in stress and lack of sleep. So be interesting to see it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Of course. Adam's gonna have his own separate bedroom. We'll set up, you know. Hey, babe, you know. Buzz me a little bit more. Red lights go on everything. Yeah, she wants. Dude, I read a terrible article just,
Starting point is 00:52:58 and I know you live in the Santa Cruz area in your near the ocean. Tell me more craziness. Well, this isn't Santa Cruz. This has to do with Monterey Bay, but it's kind of close, right? Okay. Well, it's totally close or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So they did a study on the plastic concentrations in Monterey Bay, and they found that there were plastic concentrations that were as high as the Pacific garbage patch. Have you guys heard of the Pacific garbage patch? That's where everything kind of funnels in from all the trash that's been, it's like it's an island of just garbage.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Of just garbage, you're plastic. Now, these are small particles of plastic that they're picking up. These are particles that are the size of a grain of rice or smaller, but nonetheless, the researcher said that the results were incredibly sobering, that the pollution is made up of trillions of tiny bits of debris floating from near the surface to thousands of feet
Starting point is 00:53:52 Underwater now. Here's the the crappy part about These small small small particles of plastic They're very hard to clean up and they get consumed by fish eat them. Yes, dude little. Yeah, sardines So this made me this is sad because Monterey Bay is one of my favorite places in the world and they get consumed by... You have fish eatin' them. Yes, dude. Little, yeah, sardines and whatnot. So this made me, this is sad because Monterey Bay is, one of my favorite places in the world, one of the best aquariums. I take my kids there at least once a year.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I love their aquarium. Very, very sad, but here's the crazy thing that got me thinking. I wonder at one point, eating fish will no longer be considered healthy. You know what I'm saying? Because fish consume this plastic gets trapped in their body. Do they know like what is the major contributor,
Starting point is 00:54:29 like what area of the world like produces the most plastic waste? In the ocean? We do. China. Oh, I thought we did. No, the US is phenomenal. All things considered, we put very little waste
Starting point is 00:54:44 out into the ocean. We do a very, very good job in comparison to other big economic powerhouse. It's fucking China. China's terrible. They produce a huge percentage of the pollution and shit that goes out into the ocean. And yeah, so it's pretty sad. And like I said, I wonder at one point, it will be, you're not gonna wanna buy wild seafood because of the plastic and shit that they,
Starting point is 00:55:11 that they're inside their bodies. Speaking of Monterey Bay, that's crazy. Have you guys seen the show, Little Big Lies? Good job. Oh, Netflix. No, he's really into that show. Yeah, it's a show time or HBO, I forget which one it is. Reath wither, wither, wither, wither, wither, he's saying that she's a show time or HBO. I forget which one it is. Reath with the with the with the with the he said that she's in it. Nicole Kidman. She's in it. Nicole Kidman's in it. So is
Starting point is 00:55:31 this season you have got what her name. She's like, it's a tip of my tongue. Doug, would you look it up? Little big lies and tell me that the cast is amazing. They have a great a great cast. It's kind of a girl show. Oh, just goes trying to get me to watch it. Yeah. It's like about like somebody murdered somebody and they all covered it up or something like that. So that's that's the first season. So it's it's based out of Monterey Bay and it's it's a really good. There's a there's your lineup right there. That's not all of them. Oh, it's got the cool Kidman. Yeah, the cool. Oh, Zoe Kravitz. Yeah, Merrill Streeps in this year. That's who I was trying to go. It's a good show to watch with your girl. It's it is more I think of on the, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:10 Is it compelling? Yeah, yeah, that's why you like it. It's a good it's a good story line. Good. I've been trying to find a show that Jessica and I can enjoy together. That's why I'm telling you guys. It's not it's not the show that you're gonna watch fun going well. Yeah. I so here's the thing. I'm enjoying Game of Thrones. I'm in second season. I'm starting to like it. Jessica didn't like it. Doesn't like it. Oh, she's done.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah, and I like it. I'm not like super. I need to watch it. Yeah, but she's not into the fantasy, right? Yeah, no, no. And from what you guys told me, I guess the second season is the one that really sucks you in. Second, third.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah, for sure. And that's one of those shows too, that if you don't get into it early, you're fucked. She can never pick it up and go like, oh, let me. I'm already having trouble following it now. That's what I know. That's what that's. It's heavy like that. You have to be into it.
Starting point is 00:56:58 You can't be like multitasking. You guys know how many podcasts there were for a game of thrones. Like there was shows that popped up all over the place just trying to explain like what's been going on or you're serious. Yeah, because it is. It's so vast like there's so many characters there's so many different sub plots like sub stories that you just get lost. I'm actually jealous you're watching it the way you are because it's such a deep show and there's so many moving parts so many characters going so many storylines that I think it would have been, I would have enjoyed it more watching it all consecutively versus having to wait year
Starting point is 00:57:34 in between seasons. How cool is that that something became that successful that it created its own economy. Like you said, Justin, there's shows and things created that were off of it because it was so successful that you could create your own YouTube channel, explaining it and have hundreds of thousands of people. It's almost, you know, it dare I say something like this Justin, it's Star Wars of our time. Well, of this generation, right? I caught wind of some news, actually, because they're coming out with the last one in this trilogy this year and after that, it's like, well, where's it gonna go from there?
Starting point is 00:58:11 And I heard wind that actually the Game of Thrones directors, producers, writers, and all that, we're gonna get into Star Wars. So that's interesting. What do you mean get into Star Wars? Like the next, like taking it to the next level from there as far as like where the story going goes. Wow, that's gonna be crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:30 It'd be interesting, but that's like all in the works. I don't know how much it's confirmed, but that's what they've like said to the public. What have we seen with like the toy market and things like that? Cause it seemed like it was geared more towards adults. Like Star Wars even hooked in kids, right? Like you could be a kid and really enjoy Star Wars
Starting point is 00:58:47 and an adult were Game of Thrones. I don't know if I heard too much in the... Oh, toys for kids. Oh no, yeah. It's definitely adult driven. I think too, that's what made me interested because I'm like, I'm actually hoping after this, this trilogy that they'll go in more
Starting point is 00:59:03 in adult directions and eliminate a lot of the little kid stuff. Well, okay. That would be cool. Like just because I don't know. But then again, you know, it's cool to have kids grow up with that story. You don't want Ewoks anymore?
Starting point is 00:59:16 No, I don't want Ewoks anymore. I want you Bocca. That was my favorite one. I was a kid. It's a favorite one. That's a favorite one. Yeah. Little Teddy bears.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Wouldn't they supposed to be Chubacas or whatever? Yes, Wukis. Yeah, I was supposed to be a whole plan of Wukis. So they changed it. Chubacas. Chubacas. Chubacas. Chubacas.
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Starting point is 01:00:11 But it seems all the influencers and bodybuilders on social media utilize a body part split and look amazing. Can you speak to this as I am someone who really wants to transform my body? Just, I can't get past the slit. Sorry, Doug. You're stuck with me. I started. I got it too.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah. So here's a thing. We trained for two decades, lots of everyday people, lots and lots and lots of everyday people. Most of the clients that we trained were like you listening right now. So if you're listening right now and you think you're not like most people, you're probably wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:53 And most people respond best to full body type workouts. Now that doesn't mean everybody does best with full body type workouts. Some people do better with a body part type split. Well, let's talk about that. Let's break that down a little bit on why. Why do we believe that? And why do we think that you're probably more like
Starting point is 01:01:15 the normal person and not like the outlier who does better with a split? Well, here's some of the benefits of... There's multiple factors that go into it. There are. Here's one factor that's important But this one factor I'm about to say can be accomplished with the split also and that's training frequency or how often you train Each body part per week now for a while there
Starting point is 01:01:36 It was widely, you know Sold to us that you needed to train one body part and then hard and then let it rest for an entire week before hitting it again. For most people, that's not effective. You want to hit your body parts two to four times a week for best results. Now total volume can be the same. In other words, if you're training one body part on Monday and you're waiting until Monday and you do 21 sets on that Monday, you could just split up all those sets and do three or four workouts during the week. So same total volume, more frequency and that tends to give people better results.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It also allows you to do more effective exercises. If you're doing all 21 sets of one workout, the last, I don't know, 15 sets of your workout or so are usually comprised of easier exercises because you're fatigue. But if you split it up amongst three or four workouts, now you can choose to do the more effective exercises each time because you have more energy.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Here's some of the other benefits of full body workouts that are just applied to full body workouts. When you do, when you work the whole body, or when you work a body part, you get this anabolic effect that affects that body part. But there is this systemic anabolic effect that happens as well. Studies will show that if somebody trains
Starting point is 01:02:55 just the right arm, most of the muscle gain goes to the right arm, but believe it or not, a little bit of muscle gain goes to the left arm too. And there's a little bit of a muscle gain that happens to the rest of the body. There's this systemic effect. Well, a full body workout is hitting your entire body
Starting point is 01:03:11 in one workout. So you're getting more of that systemic muscle building effect. This is one of the reasons why I think when I take clients, and I put them on a two or three day a week full body workout instead of a body part split that most of them Just do better they get stronger and they build more muscle when they do that. I also think that it's more realistic for consistency purposes. You rarely can you rarely find a client who Can do a body part split and maintain the frequency of hitting the muscle two to three times a week.
Starting point is 01:03:47 That normally requires them in the gym. Five or six days? Yeah, minimum, five to six days, sometimes seven days a week. And maybe they can do that for bouts of time, for a month or two, or maybe even three month stretches, but very few clients could ever consistently day in and day out for years, train five to seven days a week, every single week to maintain the frequency needed to get the most out of
Starting point is 01:04:12 the muscle growth. So doing the full body split seems to be the better routine for a majority of people for that reason. It doesn't mean that a split can't be made. And normally the Instagram people that we see that are running these splits are people that are married to the gym. That are in the gym seven days a week
Starting point is 01:04:36 and training like crazy life. Yeah, it's surrounded around that and they're presenting this information. So, and does it work for them? I'm sure it does work just fine. It's interesting to think back too, because I was in the body parts split. That was something that I used to train
Starting point is 01:04:54 when I was thinking about hypertrophy phases and trying to go through that and being introduced to the full body workout, I was like, no, I don't want to work legs and upper body at the same time, it's going to suck. And then you start getting through it and you realize the recovery of it for me personally, I was like, actually, I started to look forward to training my legs more because I wasn't just hammering the shit out of them that day.
Starting point is 01:05:19 The leg day specifically for me, I used to go crazy with that when I was doing a split. And it would just, it would almost like, the next workout was almost impossible. Yeah, it crippled you for the next three to four days. You'd be hobbling around and then it would, and that's another reason why I think the split because you have to understand too, when you, when you do a full body routine, you, you're not keeping the same level of volume and intensity that you would do if you were doing a split, you're reducing that. It's way less volume per day on a muscle group.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Same volume per week. Yeah, per week. It's the same, but it's spread out. So then it's like to Sal's point, you know, and let's just use like an example like chest, like instead of doing like I would do in the past, a chest day, which I do 15 to 25 sets of all chest, and it's hammered in the next four to five days, it's sore and trying to recover, and then maybe on day five, I hit it again.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Instead of that, I'm dividing those 15 to 25 sets over three or four days, and so I don't feel crippled afterwards. So then what it allows me to do is when I go to hit the chest on the second day, I'm not as sore, which allows me to get after it more in that we're going to or lift more away, which then in turn, it's up building more muscle. And studies show that the muscle protein synthesis signal, which when we measure that, that shows that your body is building muscle. That signal spikes after a workout,
Starting point is 01:06:47 and then it drops very quickly, after about 48 to 72 hours. Now, if you're advanced, it drops down even faster. And so, it makes sense to work out that body part again, three days later instead of seven days later. And then again, I'll go back to that whole body and a ballic signal. When you're training your whole body in one workout That is a very loud build muscle signal that you're sending your body when I'm training just my back or just my shoulders
Starting point is 01:07:14 That signal is not quite as loud and as far as bodybuilders are concerned look Here's a thing when you look at bodybuilders and influencers on social media You are looking at people who genetically are gifted. And when I say gifted, it just means that they're 1%, they really are 1%. I've met people like this. And I haven't met a lot of them, by the way. Remember, I've worked in fitness for a long time, and I can maybe think of a few people, I've ever met my entire life, that I would even put in this category. And these are people who, you know, I look at them like, man, your pecs look crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Like, what do you do for your chest? Like, I do 20 push-ups every other day. And I'm like, what? It doesn't make any of that 20 push-ups. Like, you know, just incredible ridiculous genetics. And then on top of it, you throw on anabolic steroids, which keeps the anabolic signal loud longer than for the average person.
Starting point is 01:08:04 So you get someone like me, average guy, I go work out my back, body wants to, you know, repair and then build, that signal may last for 24 48 hours for this genetic anomaly guy or on steroids. That signals loud all the time. Either the steroids are keeping that signal loud because you have this artificial hormonal signal or your genetics just so happen to put you in favor of constantly building muscle.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Well, on to your point of like a louder signal and like the exercises that you know, I have the most effect and we talk about squats and benching like these compound lifting exercises are you know, going to give you the best bang for your buck. Well, when you're doing a split, a lot of times, like it starts to degrade after I start to use more isolated types of machines and things that don't aren't quite as demanding. And so because of the fact that you're doing all this volume that same day. And so to be able to spread it out, now I can focus on exercises that actually promote the most growth. that same day. And so to be able to spread it out, now I can focus on exercises that actually promote
Starting point is 01:09:05 the most growth. It's also always about too learning how to scale volume properly. And I think this is overlooked a lot. And I think there's a lot of people that listen to the show that may not know that the way we wrote the programs, we've designed them in an order that you should technically scale up. Unless you're someone who's coming into the show for the first time and you're already super advanced and you already got a crazy physique and you want to jump into one of the
Starting point is 01:09:30 most intense or high volume programs that we have. But for the most people that are listening, the ideal progression is you should follow maps and a ball, then go to a performance, then go to aesthetic, and then go to a split, and then the pinnacle would be PED. And what's nice about that, you get your chance to run a split type of routine, but we build you up over that time. Get the most bang for your buck, working out the least, which would be three day a week type of routine, and then allow yourself to progress all the way up to where you're doing more of a five to six day of a split routine. And then the ultimate, which is a, you know, two day workout type of routine, which is PED.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah, but even even a full body workout like Mapsesthetic is full body based. Mapsesthetic is high volume and is very appropriate for competitors. I get DMs every day from people who use Mapsesthetic to get ready for a show. And the way it's broken down is it's three full body workouts, but then in between you can pick other body parts to add even more volume and frequency. So I firm look, here's a deal. If you and you can ask any strength coach, you can ask any trainer who's been training people
Starting point is 01:10:38 for years and years and years, people with lots of experience, and they will agree that you can find articles online where they've actually had discussions like this. It's probably safe to say that eight to nine out of ten people are just going to get better results with a full body type workout. So that means that one or two out of ten may do better with the split. So the vast majority of you are just going to do better with a full body workout for a
Starting point is 01:11:02 lot of the reasons that we talked about. And as far as exercises are concerned, I want to circle back to that, because if you're hitting your legs in one day, you're going to do barbell squats as one of your exercises. If you hit your legs three days during the week and split up the volume, you have an opportunity to do the most effective
Starting point is 01:11:18 lower body exercise of all time, three times. Now you can do it three times, and you may not even do the less effective, almost, dare I say, waste of time exercise, like a leg extension, which is necessary when you're doing all 20 sets in one workout. So full body workouts, just in our experience with most people, just are superior for most people,
Starting point is 01:11:41 hands down. And by the way, early day bodybuilders, before steroids, before all this other shit, when they were just working out and observing how the bodies responded, when they were all natural because these drugs didn't exist, that's how they all worked out. Look at the old routines, all of them,
Starting point is 01:11:55 did full body workouts. Next question is from Grace Megott. What's the best way to stop or help with a pretty bad benzene problem? My relationship with food has been so bad for so long, I just can't seem to figure out how to fix it. Awareness is the key. You must bring awareness to the problem.
Starting point is 01:12:16 And I don't mean awareness like you're aware that you have this issue, because you obviously are. I mean, bring awareness to when it happens. And so there's a few strategies that you can do. These are the strategies that I have found. And by the way, we're not talking about clinical, like binging, like bulimia.
Starting point is 01:12:36 That's something that you need to see a professional for. I'm assuming that this person's talking about the typical, like I just, I'll eat a whole bag of chips or bunch of cookies. Okay. The strategies that I have found to be most successful revolve around bringing awareness around the situation when it occurs. So there's a couple of things you can do.
Starting point is 01:12:55 One, install obstacles between you and the binging and the foods that are trigger foods. Create obstacles in front of yourself. So what's an obstacle? An obstacle? Not in your house. Yeah, an obstacle would be, I need to drive to the store to get these trigger foods.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Don't have them in the house, so that's one obstacle. And obstacles give you an opportunity to stop and reflect on what's going on. Cause here's what's happening when you binge. When you binge, you're in a state of unawareness where you're literally eating and eating and eating and what you'll find is that your goal is to get the food in your mouth as fast as possible and eat as fast as possible. It's the wanting is actually more powerful than the having because you have it in your mouth,
Starting point is 01:13:41 but you want more and it's all about the wanting. So we have to stop that process, create those obstacles in between. So one obstacle, don't have these trigger foods around in your house. Here's another obstacle. Stop when you find yourself in this state, where like, oh shit, I wanted like, go nuts on that bag of chips.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Stop, here's the hard part. Stop yourself. The reason why it's hard is because what you don't realize is you don't want to, part of you doesn't want to be aware, part of you wants to continue to find relief in this behavior. So you have to stop, which may make you realize,
Starting point is 01:14:15 oh, I'm not feeling good, that's why I'm doing this, but stop, pause, and write down how you feel. And as silly as this sounds, it makes a fucking, huge difference. The other thing you could do is you could stop, drink a big glass of water, wait five minutes. So all you're doing is you're just, you're separating you from the action with some obstacles and some time. The second thing is to not judge yourself if this happens and not judge yourself if it doesn't
Starting point is 01:14:43 happen. So here's what I mean by that. Let's say you do what I say, you install the obstacles, you still binge, you still eat a whole bag of cookies or whatever. After you're done, say to yourself, okay, that happened, moving on because adding a layer of bad feelings around it, adding a layer of judgment.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Think about it this way. The things that tend to motivate us to binge eating are typically bad feelings, anxiety, stress, depression, whatever, just they're typically bad feelings. What you're doing by judging yourself after it's already done because it's already happened, you've already eaten the food. What's happened when you judge yourself afterwards is you're creating more bad feelings.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Those are the same bad feelings that motivate you to do it again. This is why it becomes a cycle. So if it happens, stop and just say, okay, that happened, moving on. Now, if you don't binge, I also suggest you don't judge it. Don't do this, like, okay, I did the obstacle, I did what Sal said. Wow, I don't binge, I also suggest you don't judge it. Don't do this.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Like, okay, I did the obstacle. I did what Sal said. Wow, I didn't binge. I'm so good. I'm so great. Like I'm succeeding. Don't do that because I'll set you up for worst judgment the next time you fail.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Instead, again, say to yourself, cool. I didn't do that. Moving on. Those things right there can make a tremendous difference in this behavior that tends to become a kind of this systemic behavior that is a very unaware behavior that we tend to have. I think it also helps to set a goal for yourself.
Starting point is 01:16:16 And typically, I like clients to set like a 30-day goal. This is why I actually like kind of the philosophy behind the whole 30, where for 30 days, you only eat whole foods. And a lot of this, this binging comes from these cravings. The same thing if you were a big cigarette smoker and you smoke to pack a cigarette on a regular basis and then all of a sudden decided that you don't want to and then you resist for one day and then you, those cravings are just killing you.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Then you have it and you start puffing away like crazy. I mean, your body has become addicted to a lot of these highly palatable and addictive foods. And so what it's really tough for people, they were, they were framed from it for a few days. And then they, you know, they give in, and then when they give in,
Starting point is 01:17:04 they go bananas because of that craving. And then give in and then when they give in they go bananas because of that craving and then it tastes so amazing when they have it again. So one of the best things that you can do is to resist from it, set a goal for yourself on a certain amount of days of none of it into your diet whatsoever until you work on a better relationship for these types of foods where you can allow it in and out of the diet and not go down the, the binging. So I think help, and it gets easier too. So the longer you go without these types of foods
Starting point is 01:17:34 in your diet, the easier it is for you to resist the binging. If it's something that you resist for three to five days and then you bend, you keep falling into that pattern, it's really tough to break that until you set a goal for yourself. It's... And become comfortable with your feelings. You know, because what we're talking about,
Starting point is 01:17:52 not just, oh, my diet isn't that good, we're talking about binging, which is the behavior where you eat until you're uncomfortable, you eat until your stomach hurts, or you eat just an amount of food that you would consider, you eat until your stomach hurts or you eat just an amount of food that you would consider like not reasonable.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Like, okay, instead of eating two or three cookies, I ate a whole sleeve of cookies or I hate a whole bag of chips. Like what just happened? Like I feel uncomfortable, I don't feel good. You have to become comfortable with your feelings. Like what is causing you to reach for that temporary relief? Because that's really what it is.
Starting point is 01:18:27 While you're eating, while you're binging, food creates good feelings. It just does. Obviously, that's why we enjoy eating. That's why so many things revolve around food. It feels good. So if you're sad or if you're bored or if you're anxious, all uncomfortable feelings, that distraction of eating and then the feel good
Starting point is 01:18:46 of that we get from eating those temporary feel good feelings, it distracts us from those negative type feelings. And so it is a temporary solution. Unfortunately, it causes more problems, right? Because then you start to feel terrible, your stomach hurts, maybe you're overweight, your health is bad, now you're feeling worse, and this is why you see people go down this spiral. This is why binging in this way kind of resembles addictive person, you know, addictive type behaviors where, you know, it becomes irrational. Like,
Starting point is 01:19:18 why do I keep doing this? You know, and I know people have had those, those, those thoughts to themselves, like, why do I do this? The last time I did this, my stomach hurt, and I didn't feel good. Why did I do it now? This is why it's so important to not judge yourself because that only creates more negative feelings which are the drivers behind what you're doing. And the other thing I said, install things
Starting point is 01:19:38 that are between you and the behavior. And that's journaling, it could be drinking glass of water, it could be, I have to drive to the store to get this food. And it sounds easy, but it's not, it's simple, but it's not easy. And the reason why it's not easy is because we don't want to fully become aware of our feelings.
Starting point is 01:19:56 That's why we're reaching for that food in the first place. Well, to add to your point on, you know, not beating yourself up, the strategy that I used when I was getting, when I was preparing myself to get ready to get into like competition prep mode and never in my life before have I ever done something where I knew that for months and months I would have to be like perfect on my dieting. So that was completely
Starting point is 01:20:19 foreign to me, even being a trainer and keeping myself in relatively pretty good shape. To get into competition shape, I knew would require a whole new level of discipline and consistency. And what I used to do is I would compete with myself. And I knew what Sal was talking about. I knew I couldn't fuck up on the diet one day or over consume on something and then beat myself over it. That would be just a vicious cycle.
Starting point is 01:20:43 So I was aware enough and smart enough to know I didn't need to allow that. So what I would do is I would set a goal of, hey, I'm going to be dialed perfect for the next seven days. Seven days of following the plan, being consistent, doing what I need to do. And then the goal was to make it there. And let's say on day seven, I end up having something and I binge, I overeat, I overeat, I over consume. Instead of letting that spiral me down and making a big deal about it, it's like no big deal.
Starting point is 01:21:11 But now I'm gonna make over at least eight days. I'm gonna get you, I did seven, seven's the best I've done. I fucked up at day seven, next time, the next eight days, I'm gonna, I cannot do this again for eight days, I'm gonna keep building on that. And I just kept, and of course, when I get to day eight, I'm like, oh, I'm good, I can go to nine, this again for eight days. I'm gonna keep building on that and I just kept and of course when I get the day 8 I'm like, oh, I'm good. I can go to 9. I can go to 10 then I hit maybe day 11 or 12. Oh a fuckup happen I didn't I didn't have a perfect diet no big deal. That's okay next goal is stretch 13 days or 14 days
Starting point is 01:21:36 And I would just keep building on that until I got to a point where I was starting to string weeks and then months together of this consistency of eating good foods that I know that were benefiting me towards my goal, and then it got easier and easier to be more consistent. And then when you'd have those days every once in a while, it also causes less of a setback. When you string together, you know, 30 days of great eating, you have one bad day, and then you're right back to eating good again. And a bit of a deal.
Starting point is 01:22:06 What happens with people that tend to binge like this is to Salis Point again, is they beat themselves over it, and then they get kind of the fucking attitude. It's like, oh, I fucked up already on my diet, and I way over did it, and I feel terrible tomorrow, and then it allows them to do that. And we see this in all behaviors, not just food. I mean, that's how people
Starting point is 01:22:25 end up being cheaters, too. That's why they say a cheater is always a cheater. You end up cheating in a relationship and you do something like that and you, you're like, fuck, I already did it. So you justify it a second time and a third time. The same thing goes with your dieting and food. You, you fuck up like that. You beat yourself up over. It's like, move on from it. Satagold to be a better version of the next coming to it. I had a client who years ago wanted to quit smoking cigarettes. And some of the strategies that he used, I think are similar to the strategies
Starting point is 01:22:51 that we're talking about now. One thing that he did was, at one point he said, if I want a cigarette, then I have to drive to the store to buy them and then I'll smoke whatever I want, whatever's left over, I throw away. So each time I want a cigarette, I have to get in the car and drive to the store. And so he did this for a little while
Starting point is 01:23:08 and actually reduced his cigarette consumption because, well, he has to stop. He has to, on the drive there, he has to think about the fact that he wants a cigarette and it kind of interrupted that behavior. The other thing that he did is he created a mantra. And this was personal to him, and I don't know what it was,
Starting point is 01:23:23 but he had a mantra and he said, every time you wanted a cigarette, he would this was personal to him. I don't know what it was, but he had a mantra and he said, every time you wanted a cigarette, he would say this mantra to himself. And it was just enough time for him to stop and interrupt the that behavior, but also remind himself of why he doesn't want to smoke cigarettes anymore. So I've used that strategy with a couple of clients where they create a mantra and it could be anything like,
Starting point is 01:23:43 I really care about myself, I love myself, I want to take care of of myself, whatever it is, read this mantra to yourself, just interrupt that cycle. But if you can interrupt that cycle enough times, it stops becoming a natural go-to behavior every time you have whatever feeling it was that was motivating you to do that in the first place. Next question is from Richie Lath 13.
Starting point is 01:24:03 How does alcohol affect your gym routine? Makes it way funner. I'm stupid. You guys ever worked out a lot more? Have you guys ever worked out buzzed or drunk? Have you ever done that before? I have. You have?
Starting point is 01:24:15 Yeah. I remember I had an early morning workout in the night before. Like I was still drunk, you know, because I was drinking too much. So I started like working out and, oh man, it was, it was a struggle, it was, it was a big struggle. It was just a fatigue getting through the, the wraps and the sets was substantial. Like I just didn't have the kind of stamina,
Starting point is 01:24:37 like I normally do. Yeah, I did it once. I used to run this gym and there was a sports bar in there. So there was like wine and beer or whatever. Yeah. And we would close at 10 o'clock at night on Fridays and me and the staff got started drinking and we got drunk and I decided to do a workout
Starting point is 01:24:53 and I pulled my lap muscle. You know how hard is to pull a lap muscle? Yeah, you go in tight already too. It's stupid. It's like the hydrated. Yeah, but I mean, here's a deal. Alcohol, and I'm not just talking about being drunk and working out, obviously this this person's asking like,
Starting point is 01:25:06 drinking and then working out, how do you balance it both? Alcohol is 100% negative effect on fitness. There's no positive whatsoever. It's, you kind of have to just recognize that right away. Yeah. Well, nothing spikes blood sugar harder than alcohol, right? It's the top of the list as far as like things
Starting point is 01:25:26 that spike blood sugar and prime your body to be ready to store fat. So when you're talking about working out and trying to get in shit, because typically most people are working out to lose body fat, build muscle. And when you add something into your diet like alcohol, and very few people,
Starting point is 01:25:45 we're not talking about one drink either. Somebody having a glass of wine once a week or a beer once a week is very little as far as the detriment to that, but it's the three, four, five beers, and then it's also what you tend to do after that that is really detrimental to your- That's a good point, because alcohol is a very, very strong
Starting point is 01:26:07 uninhibitor. It makes you feel less inhibited for everything. So, if you, people listening right now know exactly that I'm talking about, like you go out with your friends, you drink, it's the end of the night, one o'clock in the morning, nine at a 10 times, what do you do? You go get some shitty ass food, right?
Starting point is 01:26:27 Fast food or whatever. Now is it because alcohol makes you hungrier? Not necessarily, it's because it lowers your inhibitions. It's the reason why you're more likely to have sex with a random person on alcohol, or you're more likely to punch someone in the face on alcohol. You're just less inhibited, the part of your brain that says, you probably shouldn't do that. You're just less inhibited. The part of your brain that says,
Starting point is 01:26:45 you probably shouldn't do that. You're not gonna feel good or whatever. That part gets turned off. And so then you're like, hey, I got a good idea. Let's do it. Let's go eat some Jaggernaut box tacos, you know, or whatever. It also plays a little mind-fuck, too, to Justin's point, because it does do this.
Starting point is 01:26:58 It dehydrates you, which kind of like pulls out some of the water, and you fills up all of your glycogen. So your muscle bellies get filled out. So a lot of times water and you fills up all of your glycogen, so your muscle belly's get filled out. So a lot of times, and anyone listening, who's drank heavy the night before and then woke up in the morning, how many times have you woke up from a hard night of drinking actually looked better?
Starting point is 01:27:14 And so that, the psychological part, and I mean, physically, not your face and your terrible sleep and stuff like that, but your body, your stomach, your gut. A lot of times you'll wake up after a night of drinking and you think, oh wow, I thought I did all this damage last night, but I don't look so bad and that ends up causing you to make more bad choices
Starting point is 01:27:34 leading from that. And then it's also how it affects sleep, right? So your alcohol also is... Make sleep terrible. Make sleep really bad. That then affects your workout the next day. To me, it's one of the things, it's one of the most crippling things
Starting point is 01:27:52 that you can do while you have serious fitness goals. But it's fun. Yeah. And no, that's a good point, Justin, because at the end of the day, though, when you're looking at your health, it's a sphere that contains everything. So there is the physiological aspect of health,
Starting point is 01:28:08 your body, your liver, your muscles, like all the things that can be affected by alcohol negatively. But then there's also the emotional side of things, an emotional health. And if you're out with your family or your friends and you haven't seen them in a while or whatever and you're having Some wine or some beer or some drinks and you're just connecting and you're genuinely having a really good Time with these people that's memorable that you're connecting with these people
Starting point is 01:28:37 Can that positively impact your health? Absolutely look if you took someone you put them in isolation and you fed them perfectly and had them exercise perfectly, their health will be terrible because they're isolated from other people and from those connections. And alcohol sometimes is part of that, you know, that whole culture around, you know, connecting with people. Now, can it be used negatively in that way also? can alcohol negatively affect your emotional health? You better fucking believe it. You could go out with your friends, drink a bunch, and then have a terrible argument, and act like an asshole or whatever.
Starting point is 01:29:11 So I think there's a smart way to do it. So it's not as simple as like don't drink because it's bad for your fitness and health. You gotta be smart enough to kind of weigh it out because I do think, look, there's times when we drank, we went to Manhattan Beach for the live event, we all enjoyed some alcohol, and yes, my physical performance went to the gym the next day, it wasn't as strong, I didn't feel as fit, the calories from the alcohol, my gut was off or whatever, but was it worth the trade of hanging out with you guys and our families and connecting and laughing and laughing
Starting point is 01:29:44 and laughing, definitely, definitely worth that, you know the the few days of shitty workouts in my opinion. But I've had to do it all the time. Yeah, I see I 100% agree but I also am very careful on how I talk about this because I know that people just want to give them a pass. Well how many times have you guys had a client before who will tell you this like you know I want to get in shape I want to lose all this way, whatever, but I am not giving up Sunday,
Starting point is 01:30:06 fun day with the girls and I'm not, you know, I want to- Can I skip a meal instead? Right, and so they feel that they need this day of drinking or this weekend, sometimes, of being able to drink and can I still get really fit and everybody has a friend who's the exception of the rule who looks amazing, she's got a great body or he's got a great body and you'll always see him getting fucked who's the exception of the rule who looks amazing.
Starting point is 01:30:25 She's got a great body or he's got a great body and you'll always see him getting fucked up at the club all the time. And so you too want to know how can you figure this out? And for the majority of people, if you have real serious fitness goals, you're trying to make physical change and that's a major priority for you. Alcohol is a terrible thing to have. It's going to get in your way. Yeah, especially if you have a serious goal. So just keep that in mind. So it's, it is great, you know, for hanging out and for making, you know, fun times with your friends and all that kind of stuff. But like at the end of the day, if you're really trying to like
Starting point is 01:30:59 make a body change and a health change, it's going to get your way. Well, here's the other thing, too, back to your point, Adam, when they said, I need to have my Sunday, Sunday, or I need to have my ones a week with my buddies where we drink or whatever. To those people, because I've had those clients too, that's quite common. To those people, I would say this,
Starting point is 01:31:17 rather than looking to that one day, is that one day where you enjoy yourself and connect, just look at all the other days and try to understand and realize why it's so important that you have this one day of reprieve. Like if that's how you, if that's how you balance your life out that you have one day where you go off and drink because the rest of your life is so hard and stressful and terrible. Rather than maintaining that one day of, of, of doing that without call, look at the rest of the days and think to yourself, like, why is it that I look so forward
Starting point is 01:31:45 to this one day a week where I can drink? Is it, do I hate the rest of my life so much? And if I do, what can I change about it to make my life more balanced and more healthy? Not to mention to that point also, and I think this was the last Instagram Friday fitness tip that Rachel posted up that I talked about, which was one of the biggest game changers for me was
Starting point is 01:32:03 starting to make the best health choices or the best food choices and activity choices on Saturday and Sunday. And if I really wanted alcohol or I really wanted pizza or I really wanted a burger, then I would just discipline myself to have it somewhere Monday through Friday because I was the most active and the most consistent with my diet during Monday through Friday
Starting point is 01:32:23 if I were to sleep in, sit on my ass and go out to eat and do all these other things that weren't most ideal for my body or creating movement, that's also the worst time that you could, you sit down Sunday, fun day, you go shopping with the girls and then you sit in some restaurant for three hours and you drink five margaritas, that's probably the worst thing. Now, if you have a job where you're out and you're moving and you're taking 15,000 steps throughout the day, you ate perfect all day long, you got your gym routine in in the morning, and then you decide you wanna go have a couple drinks
Starting point is 01:32:52 later on at dinner, probably not as detrimental as the Sunday, Monday, where you didn't do anything really physical other than going shopping. You sat on your ass for three or four hours and you drank five margaritas, that's gonna set you back further. And when you start to make habits like that, we say, okay, I'm not going to say I can't have alcohol, but I'm going to start to make, but I'm going to plan it in better parts or
Starting point is 01:33:14 better times in my week. And then what ends up happening is that Tuesday happens, you were great, you were consistent, you ate well and you're like, uh, do I really want that margarita tonight? It's not that big of a deal. I'll save it for another event. Next question is from the Maple Leaf man. Would you guys ever do a powerlifting competition? Why or why not? I love powerlifting.
Starting point is 01:33:34 I love strength competitions. Just all of them, mainly because they're so objective. I love them for the same reasons why I dislike, although I still respect, but the reason why I dislike physique and bodybuilding is that they're so subjective that there's a judge judging you and telling you who's better and who's not better. Yeah, you have real metrics with powerlifting. Powerlifting, you say, you lift the weight or you don't, you're stronger or you're not. I also like that. There's an unhealthy, there can be an unhealthy component with any type of competition, but powerlifting, I've pushed certain clients into powerlifting
Starting point is 01:34:10 over bodybuilding and physique in bikini because powerlifting takes the emphasis off of body image a little bit more than those competitions do. So if I had like a female client who's like, I just want to do a competition and and I'm thinking about Bikini, and I would try to convince her to do powerlifting, because then she's more focused on just getting stronger, being able to move better type of stuff,
Starting point is 01:34:32 which tends to be healthier. Not saying you can get unhealthy, because you totally can, with all those competitions. But as far as whether I've ever considered one, I did, at one point, I thought very strongly about doing a powerlifting competition. What prevented me from doing one was just the organization of finding one and scheduling it and doing it. But I would love to do it. I really, as far as my own competitive
Starting point is 01:34:58 lifts and stuff, I'm pretty sure I would have done okay with my deadlift and pretty sure I would have gotten buried with my bench press. And I would have been okay with my deadlift, I'm pretty sure I would have gotten buried with my bench press and I would have been okay with my squat, but the deadlift would have been where I thought I would have done best, but I really love them. I love watching them, I love, at one point, I followed Powerlifting, I used to subscribe to a Powerlifting magazine, this was back in the late 90s
Starting point is 01:35:18 in 2000s when you had guys like Ed Cohn, lifting or whatever, and what they call them, Kerck Kowalski, I think it was, I don't remember, it was last thing, itohn, you know, lifting or whatever, and you know, what they call them, Kirk Kowalski. I think it was, I don't remember, it was last thing, it was Captain Kirk, they call them, just monsters, you know, and you meet power lifters and they're just, their presence was just so cool. I could easily, I think, fell into this,
Starting point is 01:35:38 had I not done the bodybuilding direction because I also don't think I really belong in bodybuilding, I don't think I really belong in powerlifting, and what do I mean by I don't belong? I don't think that, I don't think I really belong in bodybuilding. I don't think I really belong in powerlifting. And what do I mean by I don't belong? I don't think that, I don't think I'm very strong. I don't think I have the best genetics or I'm very symmetrical.
Starting point is 01:35:52 So I don't think I really, that's not my sport or it's not what I do well. And you know, basketball swimming, these are things that I would rather be competitive in those things. I like to be competitive in things that I'm probably already a little natural good at and then I could build upon that
Starting point is 01:36:08 and be really good at it. But I did find, I enjoyed knowing that I probably didn't have a great physique for bodybuilding and working towards building one that I could compete at the highest level. So I did get a kick out of that and I could easily fell into powerlifting and said, what drove me to bodybuilding was the business side of it.
Starting point is 01:36:30 I saw that that was who was on covers of magazines. And unfortunately, even though powerlifters probably are well more versed in programming and probably presenting better information as far as lifting than bodybuilders are. But that's what I saw. I saw the opportunity. I saw, oh wow, look at all these people that have amazing physiques, they're on covers of magazines and they're giving shit information.
Starting point is 01:36:55 So I thought, okay, I could come in there, even though I may not have the greatest of physiques, I can work my way up this, get a name for myself, and then present better information, and then I can find a place for myself to fit. Powerlifting, I'd probably get my ass kicked. I have a okay deadlift, I have an okay squad, I have an okay bench.
Starting point is 01:37:16 And so I probably wouldn't have made a name for myself. There's really good program, there's a lot of really good coaches. I think in that space in comparison I think the the bodybuilding space and this is an overgenonization, but for the most part most of them are idiots Most the information that's being provided I think is terrible and so I saw opportunity there I didn't see a lot of opportunity in powerlifting I knew that I probably wouldn't have been that great at it too
Starting point is 01:37:40 So I don't think I would ever get into it like that. I also been that great at it too. So I don't think I would ever get into it like that. I also, you know, everything has a risk, high risk high reward type of deal with powerlifting. When I was chasing Sal and his deadlift numbers, I definitely had some of the most joint pain and issues that I've ever had in my life. So. Oh, yeah. It's high powerlifting is a high risk. Very demanding. Yeah, it's high risk under joints. Yeah, so that part of it, I'm not a fan. Like that was also something that I instilled today
Starting point is 01:38:12 when talking about powerlifting versus bodybuilding. The thing about bodybuilding is bodybuilding is something that you could probably do all the way till you're 80 years old. You can continue to do that. It's, there's a lot of things that you can do that are not as taxing as powerlifting. Powerlifting can be very taxing.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Yeah, you're constantly pushing your limits in terms of your strength. Yeah, of course. And I don't think I have the most advantageous levers for that. I get long arms and log legs. Yeah. And some of the things that make somebody good
Starting point is 01:38:41 at bodybuilding are things that would make you not so good, typically a powerlifting, like a small waist looks really good on stage. A small waist doesn't help you squat more. Yeah, squat breaking in half. Totally. Yeah, and that's the thing, like I would much rather, if I was to have to do one or the other,
Starting point is 01:38:58 like a bodybuilding or powerlifting, I would definitely have leaned a lot more into the powerlifting side just because for me, I've always revered strength and I've revered people who you know can perform these strength feats and like lots of weight and you know there's a definite appeal to that but I didn't find myself as being genetically super gifted in that direction either like I I might have been more inclined to do it when I was younger while I was going through sports and football and the training process of it. I've always found that I loved the training side
Starting point is 01:39:30 of it even more than actually the game, but in terms of the actual lifts that they accomplished, I was terrible deadlifting. So that would have been one that had been tough for me in terms of a learning curve where I'd have to really spend, like, I feel like years like really trying to figure that out and like get better with my approach my you know my technique with that. But in terms of like the squat I've been okay you know I've been all right with the
Starting point is 01:39:58 bench like I got pretty far with the bench was a focus of mine when I was lifting real heavy and that was something that did increase and I did see promise in that. But in terms of right now, like, I mean, somebody would have to challenge me to do it. You know, that would probably be the only way you'd get me to do it. Otherwise, like, I'm going to look for something maybe a little more, I don't know, functional, like something, still a challenge, but maybe a little less demanding on my joints. I'm trying to like, you know, survive going forward.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Yeah, you know, with powerlifting, if you, here's a thing too, if you look at like Instagram and you look at how much people are lifting in powerlifting competitions, that can be very discouraging, because you could see a guy like, you know, like I would compete under 190 pounds if I were powerlifting, around 190 pounds. And if I go on Instagram see a guy like, you know, like I would compete under 190 pounds if I were powerlifters, around 190 pounds. And if I go on Instagram, I'm like, oh my
Starting point is 01:40:49 God, this dude's 190 and he's deadlifting 750 pounds, right? 100 pounds. Why the fuck would I ever come? I know. It's like, but I did my research. And if you do your research and you look at local events and you look at like raw drug tests that are whatever, at one point I had my deadlift at 600 pounds. I probably would have done pretty damn good in local events. So don't let that be something that discourages you. The cool thing about powerlifting is you go, you compete with yourself, you do better for yourself, and you compete in these local competitions.
Starting point is 01:41:20 They have drug tested ones, they have raw, which means you're not allowed to use some of the gear, like squat suits and stuff like that, which is now becoming much more popular. The thing about powerlifting, like Adam touched on, they understand exercise programming. Bodybuilders are terrible at exercise programming. Now where powerlifter suck is diet, they don't understand diet very well in comparison to bodybuilders. So a lot of power lifters, just for the sake of lifting an extra five pounds on the bar, will eat a shitty diet and gain way too much body fat. And when it comes to cutting weight to make their weight, many power lifters aren't really sure I've had to do it the right way. So I could see a lot of crossover
Starting point is 01:41:59 and things that they can learn. But I respect and value strength athletes tremendously. More than any other type of athlete that utilizes weights. Like, I love, if I need someone and they lift something heavy, and that's what they compete in, it just gives, it's just a whole new level of respect for me at least.
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