Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1069: Avoiding Muscle Loss, When to Use Resistance Bands, Foward Shoulder Fixes & MORE

Episode Date: July 6, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether resistance bands are useful as a workout tool or just an Instagram sales gimmick, progressing without wrist wraps or a belt, how hard it is to lose muscle, and combating forward shoulder.  Justin has a nice ‘rack’ + the CRAZY giveaway from PRx Performance. (5:35) The conspiracy surrounding why the media is pushing BIG for people to eat plant-based. (10:04) The ‘racist’ Nikes. Another conspiracy theory or a marketing ploy? (14:05) Why we DON’T always know peoples programming. The guys respond to the squat form of NFL Superstar Myles Garrett. (19:30) What are the BEST ways to use the Organifi Green Juice? (25:10) Justin’s rant on Aquaman. (30:00) Mind Pump recommends Inside North Korea on National Geographic + The Loudest Voice on Showtime. (31:19) There goes the neighborhood! A preservative in processed foods linked to a spike in autism: study. (36:45) Protein rice is continuing to sweep MP nation using Kettle & Fire + the benefits on their subscription service. (39:35) #Quah question #1 – Are resistance bands actually useful as a workout tool or just an Instagram sales gimmick? (43:12) #Quah question #2 – I have stopped using wrist wraps and a belt while deadlifting and I can’t lift nearly as much. Will I still make gains at this new lower weight? What can I do to keep progressing at the lower weight? (51:26) #Quah question #3 - How hard it is to actually lose muscle? (58:05) #Quah question #4 – I am almost two months post-partum and have terrible forward shoulder from breastfeeding to babywearing. Nearly all my activities are only making my posture worse. What can I do to combat this? (1:05:20) People Mentioned Myles Garrett (@flash_garrett)  Instagram Paul J. Fabritz (@pjfperformance)  Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off! **Code “ANYWHERE50” at checkout** Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Nike Axes Independence Day-Themed Air Max 1 After Colin Kaepernick Comments Mind Pump Ep 900: NBA Superstar Sports Performance Coach Paul Fabritz VIDEO: Myles Garrett Puts on a Show in Latest Ridiculous Workout Watch Inside North Korea on National Geographic The Loudest Voice: New Limited Series Starring Russell Crowe - Showtime Spike In Autism May Be Linked To Preservative In Processed Foods, Study Suggests Visit Kettle & Fire for the special offer for Mind Pump listeners! Rubberbanditz Resistance Band Set How to Fix Rounded Shoulders (GONE IN 4 STEPS!) | MIND PUMP Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of The Mind Pump, so we talk all about fitness and health, but we also have a lot of fun. The first 38 minutes is our... We always have fun, Sal. ...at we do. The first 38 minutes is our... We always have fun, Sal. That we do. The first 38 minutes is our introductory fun conversation. Here's what we talked about in that part,

and then in the rest of the episode. We start out by talking about Justin's beautiful rack. That's such a nice rack. It's so glorious. It's made by PRX. You can obviously, it's great for squats, it's great for overhead presses, it folds into the wall. It does amazing things.

We're also doing a crazy giveaway where you're gonna get all of the equipment that Justin has in his home gym. They're gonna give that away for free. Not mine, your own. Listen to this episode because we have all the details on how you can enter into that contest. Then we also talk about the big business vegan conspiracy.

I think they're all working together to screw us. Then we talked to Adam brought up racist nighties again. Gosh, man. We talked about the NFL player Miles Garrett and his 675 pound quarter squat. We all got tagged on that and everybody want to know what our opinions were on that. So we give it in this part of this episode. Then we talked about how we like to use Organifies green juice when vegetables are not present now. Organify is a company that makes organic Supplements like protein powders green juices like the one we talked about in this episode and much more if you go to

Organify.com forward slash mine pump and use the code mine pump you'll get 20% off everything in their store and use the code, my pump, you'll get 20% off everything in their store. Then Justin brings up a movie that he thought was silly, Aquaman, although... Terrible. Yeah, although his wife liked that one, I think. Then I talked about the documentary on North Korea. They're crazy. We talked about Russell Crowe's new Showtime series, and I mentioned how awesome he was in Les Miserables.

Then I brought up a study that he show tunes connected process foods, preservatives and autism. Oh shit. And then I talked about how Kettle and fire bone broth has a new subscription model where you can actually sign up and get bone broth delivered to your door every single month for a discount. Now if you go to kettle and fire.com, forward slash mind pump, you'll get 20% off all their products

and free shipping if you get six products or more. Then we get the fitness portion of this episode. The first question, this person wants to know if resistance bands are useful or if they're just a gimmick. The next question, this person stopped using wrist wraps and they belt while dead lifting. And now they can't lift as much. Are they gonna continue to make progress?

Or is the progress gonna slow down and stall because they're not able to lift as much? The next question, how hard is it to lose muscle? So we talk about the things that you can do to actually lose muscle and don't know why you would wanna to do that. And whether or not it's actually difficult or easy. And the final question, this person is two months postpartum and has really, really bad

forward shoulder. That's the posture where the shoulders roll forward, the head jets forward, looks like you're on your computer all the time. So we talk about how she can correct this posture deviation in her. And about 80% you're listening right now will probably benefit from that advice. Also, this month, all month long, maps anywhere is 50% off.

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Do it anywhere. So here's what you do for the discount. Go to mapsy.com, that's MAPS, WHITE.com, and use the code anywhere 50. That's A and Y, W- r e five zero no space for the discount What was that acd song acd c Are the dirty d-tone now no he's Big gun one

Yes, there it is that's the one Wasn't that um it was in a movie I think. Yeah, oh God, bro, me and you today are connected a little bit. A little bit. It was a lot of documentary. No, don't you think? A lot of documentaries.

Don't you think it's crazy. It was the Schwarzenegger movie, last action hero. That's it. Yes, that's the one. Yes. You remember last action hero? I do remember that movie. Schwarzenegger has the best soundtracks for all his movies.

You know what I'm saying, he's just a champion. Guns and roses. He's all though to him going vegan, this whole thing. So disappointing. Hey, hey, let's all be honest in this room right now. It's just, he's getting older though. It's brilliant. It's just us, let's all be honest.

There's anything. There's anybody on earth who could make you go vegan. Yeah. It's Terminator for sure. It's Arnold. Yeah. Like if I met with him in person, and he sat me down, I'd convince.

I need to talk to you. Okay, let's talk about this for a second. You see, you know, 30 minutes later, I'd become back. I'm like, I don't know, guys, I feel like you can get all the protein you want from peas. You do squishy and girly. You know what I mean? You have to be vegan.

I don't think he's going full. Oh, fine. I think he's just going plant-based and then selling vegan supplements, that's what I think. Yeah, that's good. I think that's a good call. Damn it, Arnold, you close. Hey, I saw your story yesterday, Justin.

What were you, uh, Oh, is this the one where he showed off his rack? You've got a nice, I do have a nice rack. Unbelievable. Thank you for noticing. No, the one with his, he had his, his drill gun and he was,

let's try to get something. Oh yeah, I took that back. I was like, that was so creepy. I had to take that down quickly. Yeah, I was doing more work on my house because I was prepping it because I just wanted it to display the rack a little bit better. So I put this like some wood paneling and stuff behind it

and made it look a little bit nicer down there. So, but yeah, so this is the gym you kind of made it look a little bit nicer down there. But yeah, so this is the gym. You like kind of made it look nicer? Yeah, and I got new mats and stuff and I've been meaning to do this anyway because it just started getting away from me and the kids were all in there and there's all these toys everywhere

and it was getting crazy. So I wanted to like, look, this is the gym. It needs to be clean, it needs to be tidy, needs to have the weights, I'll have a place, like everything has a place, there's order. I wanted it to go in and be like, yeah, I'm ready to work out. So now it looks like that. It's awesome.

How often are you using it? Dude, probably at least four to five times a week. Oh wow, you're straight, that's where you get most of your workouts. Most of it. Yeah, I'll do one here every now and then, but very infrequently, I'll do it the studio. What was Taylor and them over there shooting for?

They came over and they shot video and stuff and... Yeah, so we did some pictures and we did some video and stuff for... Get this dude PRX is willing to do this massive giveaway of my exact setup. Like everything that I got for my rack, my weights, like the way I have it with the bench that folds down, all that stuff, like we're gonna promote this giveaway. Well, so Rachel texted me all of the stuff that's gonna happen, so this is crazy on PRX's part, so it's a huge.

For people who don't know, PRX makes some of the best home gym equipment you can find, and what makes it so good is it's obviously sturdy, well made, high quality, but it also has unique capabilities of being able to fold flat against the wall. So you have a squat rack that's fully functional, like very functional, very, very sturdy. But then it folds into the wall,

so you have room in your garage. The bench does the same thing. They have a glute ham raise that does the same thing where it comes out from the wall, folds into the wall. So it, because one of the biggest complaints with home gyms is it just takes up everything. It takes up everything. Right.

I mean, there's so much freedom in it. It's all on the wall, everything. I just, it's all open space otherwise. Right. So what they're gonna do for our audience is they're actually gonna do a giveaway where they're gonna give, this is what you'll win. Now this is crazy.

You're gonna get a profile profile squat rack just like Justin, a folding bench just like Justin, Olympic Elite bar, 245 pound crumb rubber set, and a profile weight storage three peg. All of that is what they're going to give away in this giveaway. So you're going to win like thousands of dollars with equipment. Didn't I hear that Rachel said if they did all that that she would also give the Super Bundle away to? And the Super Bundle. Oh, ho, snap.

So you're going to get, you'll, if you enter Christmas, Christmas coming soon. Well, this is a crazy giveaway. So you get all that plus you get the, the map Super Bundle. How many thousands of dollars is that worth of product? That's a, yeah, it's a couple of thousand easy. That easily, easily. Wow. So I'm trying, how do you enter into this? Oh,

it starts on Friday the 5th. That's going to be when this is air. This will air the night of of this contest and it ends Sunday, July 14th. So what you got to do is you got to go to prxperformance.com force-min-pump. So prxperformance.ance.com.forstashmind pump. Enter your email and then you have to go back follow Mind Pump Media and PRXPerformance on Instagram. Dude, I'm excited about this. I like, we haven't had like a big massive giveaway like this before. Like this is one of those things.

Like I would be chopping at the bit to get that. Well, hold on, there's one more step. Then you go to Mind Pump Media Instagram page on Friday the 5th and like the giveaway post and tag a friend in the comments. And then you can enter and then limit it amount. And then on the 15th, we're gonna randomly select the winner and you'll get all that. Now I believe Rachel's going to post all those instructions

on the Instagram page. Right, so if we just tell everybody that's listening right now that's interested in trying to win. We'll be driving to it to their stories and you could swipe up and enter and all that stuff. That's the biggest giveaway that any of our partners I think have ever done. The biggest, yeah, has to be.

I would love all that shit. I'm pumped they're willing to do it. I was really surprised. Yeah, so, hey, so I read something yesterday that was, it's a conspiracy But you guys know how much I love conspiracies. This one is fascinating So I don't know if you guys have noticed this or not. I'm sure you guys have we talk about this all the time Not specifically, but around this topic that there seems to be this big media

push for people to eat vegan or not eat animal products. And it's coming from everywhere. It feels like it's coming from everywhere. They're teaching it in public schools. They're, it's more sustainable, it's healthier, it's better for the planet, all that stuff. You're seeing media companies push it,

you're seeing- Lots of documentary, documentaries coming out. And the truth is, and we've done a whole entire episode on this, the truth is you can eat a very healthy diet in a number of different ways. It can be a vegan diet, although to be quite honest,

a very healthy vegan diet requires a lot more planning. Lots of planning. Then an omnivore type diet. And you can eat a very healthy diet that includes lots of well-sourced meats and dairy and whatnot so long as you can tolerate those foods. So you can eat a very, very, very, very healthy diet

in a variety of different ways. So to me, it's like a conspiracy because they keep pushing this and I'm like, look, you're gonna make a lot of people unhealthy because they have no idea around nutrition to begin with. You're gonna make them go vegan. They're gonna get nutrient deficiencies and issues because they have no idea around nutrition to begin with. You're gonna make them go vegan. They're gonna get nutrient deficiencies and issues because they don't put the time into plan anyway.

Now they're just gonna go vegan. It's gonna be real bad for them. So I've been thinking that anyway, I read this article that outlined kind of what might be going on. Dude, I can guess, right? Is this the article that was talking about like how profitable it is right now,

like as they're making these like, like meets $3 trillion industry now. Well, think about it this way. It's something that's ridiculous. The biggest market in food, the biggest markets in food is the ability, and this only happened in the 90s. So this hasn't been with us for a long time,

but it was in the mid 90s when this kind of hit the market, is the ability to genetically modify and then patent plants. And they've been doing that with GMO seeds, and it's a huge business. Like, if you patent a plant, and then it's, you know, with stands, pesticides and herbicides, and you can sell it,

and it's easy to produce it, whatever, you're making hundreds of billions of dollars. So that explains how the impossible burger exploded and why everybody has to call it the impossible burger just because they have patent how to create that. Is that, is that how it's, no, I think I call it the impossible burger because it looks like meat tastes like meat, but it's not. So it's like marketing. Yeah, but you're right. It is made by, that has to be a company.

It is a company. It's a company. It's their product, their product. And you could be at a, all these different restaurants and they all are referring to it as impossible burger, which is a competing one to that, right? It leads me to believe that that's probably because the, to, the, in order to create that, to make that one, you have the, the patent, right? Well, you've got the patent on the food itself

because it's protected like any food, like if I made a muffin and branded it, I could do that. But the ingredients that we use to make certain things, look, here's a deal, if you eat meat, chicken, fish, beef, there's no patent on that. No, because we have yet to approve genetically modified animals. Now, they're moving in that direction, but people understandably are far more apprehensive

because, you know, if you have a genetically modified plant, nobody thinks twice about it, but as soon as they start genetically modifying animals, people get a little bit like, oh, I don't know if I want to eat that type. So the market isn't there yet. And so if they push people to eat more and more plants, it's easier to control in corn of the market. Now they can sell. That is a great conspiracy. And I totally that makes a lot of sense. It's always about

money. Of course. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. Right. You have to get everybody to buy into that mentality in order to create these products. There's like massive amounts of money waiting for you. Totally. Well,, since we're talking about conspiracy theories, I didn't even know you were gonna go this direction. I've gotta bring up what I think is a conspiracy theory right now that I posted on my InstaStory, which was the racist Nike's. Are you talking about the, what was it,

who designed that? So Nike released a shoe, a fourth of July shoe. And on the back of it, it's got the original flag when the 13 colonies. Yeah, the 13 colonies with the circle. Yes. And what happens? Betty was it wearing a Betty Ross?

Am I saying Betty Ross? Betty Ross. Betty Ross, excuse me. So, I don't even think 24 hours hit. And Colin Kaepernick came out and called it racist and yeah, did all kinds of shit about it, post about it and everything. And Nike pulls it back.

Now here's the conspiracy that we have. Boy, those shoes are gonna be worth a lot of money now. Well, not only that, but- Didn't produce them. I, but, right, I don't even know how many they actually produced, but I believe that they're in koutes. I think that Nike sponsored in kuhuts. I think that night he's sponsored by them? Yes.

I think Nike and Kaepernick, I think they made this shoe knowing that they can make someone do this. This makes Nike look woke too, right? Nike put something out like that. Colin Kaepernick says, oh, I can't believe that. That's racist.

Nike says, don't worry. We'll pull it down. We would never want to offend anybody. Now, meanwhile, you divide the rest of the country in half on people saying, that's ridiculous. It's not racist. The other half saying, oh my God, that's the way everybody talking about it.

So what are we doing again? Just like with Cossiric? Yes, we're fucking all talking about it. Because I made them a lot of money. It's the ringleader of the service. Yes. Nike made a fuck ton of money off of the whole thing with Capronick last time and not standing and saluting and all that shit.

So my belief is that this was their plan from the beginning. I don't believe they came out with this shoe and by chance, Colin Kaepernick comes out, calls it racist and then they pulled off the mark. I think they knew that they set it up that way for him to do that. So now they get all this putt. So gross.

It's a so predatory on the state of the climate of our culture right now. It's the next level of marketing in my opinion. It's crazy. I mean, if you can get people to feel like they have to pick a side, you've won. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you make people feel like, I'm going to stand over here. Oh, you know, you over here in this category, we have a product for you.

You know what I'm saying? Right. You've just crushed it. Yeah. And even if you don't feel that you need to make a, take a side, like me, I don't care, but it doesn't matter. I'm art, now I'm thinking about Nike's, I'm on the website, I'm diving through their stuff,

now I'm gonna get hit cookies all week long now by now. Oh, it's really smart. So he's saying it's racist because it's the original colony flag and why because the colonies had slaves. Is that what? Yes. Well, I mean, times name one nation that didn't do that when they were 300, 400 years ago. I mean, that was what happened throughout the world. We have to be very careful with this. I think it's important that we identify the terrible things that people did. with this, I think it's important that we identify the terrible things that people did. Humans evolve, and we evolve as a group.

Slavery was a terrible thing that a lot of nations did hundreds of years ago, but it's not the only terrible thing that they did. They did a lot of shit that was terrible back in those days. I mean, horrible shit, the way they lived, the way men treated women, the way people treated other people with disabilities and we evolved. So it's important to identify and be like, hey, this was some shit that we did a long time ago, but it's also important to say that's not me. You know what I'm saying? That was what people did back then, but they're not the same as the people who are around today. And the flag with the colonies on it, the circle stars or whatever, that just represents the first flag of America.

But does it represent adding all this excess negativity to it? Well, the irony of that too is like, I mean, that flag was flown in Obama's inauguration speech. So it's flying behind him. And it's like, okay, it wasn't racist then when he was talking about it But it just be consistent. Now that I'm a offended Nike's thrown it on a pair of sneakers also where I call it to me It's it was just a brilliant move by Nike to create drama that doesn't even exist and Conversation that's being had and arguments and debates and they're at the center of it

They keep playing that game though. It can backfire. I think it will too. I think you'd be careful. Yeah, you're right. I mean, I think it's smart right now, but I'd like to think that people are gonna start to wise up to it and go like, oh, these are over. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, right, right. Yeah, we'll see. I don't know. That's gonna be interesting. I feel like it'll backfire at some point. It's one of those things where being called a racist is so bad that it doesn't matter if it's true or not or something being called racist is so bad

that you just don't even wanna turn around and walk away. Yeah, you don't even wanna, it doesn't matter if it's true or not, just the accusation of something being racist automatically causes a whole big problem. Because like you said, that flag was flown at Obama's inauguration. It doesn't represent You know racism and never has until calling cavernick said this is racist and now now there's a line in the sand and people are gonna go on either side And I hope people can see it's getting ridiculous. Let's stop this shit

And yeah, but Nike's gonna sell out of shoes. So whatever You know, I mean as long as it keeps working They're gonna keep doing it so if we get mad enough and tell them to fuck off Along the lines of more drama and dividing people on conversations Did you guys get tagged as much as I did on the NFL player that was squatting miles? Yeah, yeah, you guys did too. Yeah, oh must agree. Because he was half squatting in his form. Oh, just a half squat. Yeah, he squat in 675 pounds. And he was doing it like quarter squats, right? And just and he wasn't super great as he needs. Right. Many people were just crucifying and, you know, PJ performance,

our buddy did an episode where he addressed LeBron James when LeBron James's video went, went viral and everybody was talking. It was a great explanation that he did. Yeah, he did. Exactly. And he did another one recently interview where he talked and I think that one might have been with Dr. Andy Gellip and I can't remember if this is the one or not, but they talked

about at what point is their diminishing returns? So first the argument is these are basketball players. They're not bodybuilders. They're not people that care about, you know, optimal range of motion. They are muscle, it's full muscle hypertrophy. Yeah. Trying to generate force that low. Right. They what they care about is he's going to train. It's going to translate to his explosiveness on the basketball court and training in the range of motion that you use on the basketball court does make a lot of sense. Now, that being said, one of the points that PJ brings up our body is that there's

a, there's, there's a point of diminishing return. Like there's a point where that makes sense, but then there's a point where when you're going so heavy and then the form is breaking down the load is Starting to create deviations or problems in it now that you've gone too far And it's also it's also important to note that trainers like him and others say that when you first start working out Full range of motion is most important. You're dealing with you on a Stab is a good base. Yeah, you're dealing with it with with athletes at the pinnacle who through a lot of their career trained full range of motion,

trained or should have at least trained full range of motion with good formal whatever. So, but this guy's form when you're watching it, and he's an athletic phenom. I don't think, you could train this guy all kinds of wrong and he's gonna fucking crazy shit. No, no, totally. You know, I think that the real takeaway that I,

and what I was, I could only respond to so many, I got so many DMs about it, the handful of people that I engaged in the conversation around it was, you know, you don't know, we don't know that person's programming and what else they're doing. And what I do know is that he's an athlete and his goals are completely different than the average person that's exercising.

And that's why, so for us to point one exercise out and mock it and make fun of it and try and tear it down, meanwhile we don't know what the rest, what the rest of this person's routine looks like. For all you know, the three sets that preceded that little block that you saw were deep full range of motion squats that are controlled and good form and technique. And therefore, if that's the case, then it does bring a little more. It's definitely not the way that, I mean, one thing I can say is it's not the way that

most people should squat. But when you're dealing with an athlete of that caliber, the type of adaptations and performance you're looking to improve upon are so specific that their training is not going to look anything like the average person. And it shouldn't. If he came to me, if that guy came to me, what's the name, Miles Garrett? Yeah. And he retired from football.

He's like, I'm not playing anymore. Can you please train me? I would train him with four range emotions. Right, we would not train that way. No, I wouldn't train him that way at all. That's a very specific thing. But yeah, I got tagged like crazy. Yeah.

Like everybody was tagging them, people were talking shit in it or whatever. Yeah. But at the end of the day, you guys, I mean, you watch this guy perform and he can move like a insane. No, no, insane. But the form did, there was some issues with the form,

though, that if I was his trainer, I'd be able to do a review. Right, I mean, what, exactly. I think, I think he could easily got in a way with four, 500 pounds squatting that short of range of motion. Without the knees, do it the right way. Yeah, so, obviously for Instagram reasons and getting attention, they probably decided that day like, oh, let's see how high you can go.

And if that's a one-off situation him doing that and he's fine from it. I learned a long time ago that athletic performance and skill and technique, the strength contribute to them, but it's not all about strength. And I learned that lesson a long time ago. I remember training with my buddy, back when I used to do Jiu Jitsu, I trained with my buddy Mike Swick,

who used to be, he was at one point, I believe he was a third or second contender for the, I think middleweight in the UFC. And John Fitch, who at one point, I believe, was the champion. And I actually rolled with both of them. And I know Swick very well. He used to work for me as a trainer. And I could outlift him in the gym,

no problem with my eyes closed. I could out-dead lift him, I could out-squat him, I could out-over-head press him, no problem. But when you get on the mat and you grapple with him, he feels like he's fucking twice as strong as me. He just feels incredibly strong. It's because he knows how to apply that strength. and there's a performance that comes with athleticism. Now, if I make swix stronger in the gym, is he going to feel stronger on the mats also?

Yes, but it's not, you can't just look at somebody and watch them squat and then automatically be like, that's going to be a great, that's that guy's a good athlete. Look at me, I can deadlift like crazy, put me on the field. And I don't look very good. So, but it is interesting to see you on them. It is interesting to see. Anyway, do you guys get messages a lot from people asking how to best use the Organified Green Juice?

Do you guys get that? I do. I think people think that it, and I don't want anyone ever to think this with any supplements that we're connected to at all that we promote somebody taking something every single day. Or that it's a necessity. And here's an example. So tomorrow we head out to the beach, right?

And we're just doing like a little barbecue thing or hang out there with all the girls and some of the employees and stuff. And, you know, we're gonna barbecue hot dogs and hamburgers. And we're on the beach. Yeah, just a basic barbecue. Right. And maybe some potato salad or something that'll be there. What we won't have is a bowl of broccoli

and we won't have spinach one of this. So this is a perfect example where I would pack all of our organified green juice and my little water bottle. And I'll throw that in my water bottle, shake it up and I'll drink, because it's really refreshing. So I already liked the taste of it. It tastes actually really good and I'll drink that while we're out there

and we're eating that. So because I know that I'm not gonna, I don't have access or I'm not gonna boil a bowl of broccoli just for the beach. It's more way more convenient and it's something like, you have to weigh that out. And there's more way more convenient and you know, it's something like you have to weigh that out and there's times like that too and we're traveling and you know, you know, you're just going to end up getting a quick bite somewhere.

You don't really know what that's going to look like and that's where I have, they have those like little single packs and so like I have some of those in my backpack every now and then I'll throw that in a water. It's like super easy. That's exactly how I use it. It's like okay, am I somewhere where I'm not gonna have, because I like to eat, and this is, I've just identified this for myself

and everybody's a little different. But for me, I feel best when I have between one to three large servings of vegetables. So when I say large, you guys have seen how I eat my vegetables. It's like a bowl. Yeah, it's like a big dinner plate, and it's a heaping, you know, amount of well-cooked, typically vegetables, because I eat a lot of them,

so I need them to be easily digestible. And I'll do one to two of those, sometimes three, every day, and I feel great. If I miss that, I start to notice issues my digestion. I just don't feel as, I feel a little groggy. I don't feel as, I just don't feel as good. And that typically happens when I travel or when we do stuff like we're gonna do Saturday

where we'll have a barbecue. That's exactly how I use the green juice. So since I'm gonna be there, I'll have one or two servings of that and then I'm gonna get some of the benefits. And again, it's not a direct replacement. I wanna be very clear here, nothing is ever a direct, you know, equal replacement to whole natural food, nothing.

Like protein powder will never equal protein from real food. There's just, it just won't. Same thing with, you know, a powder, green juice, like organica, even though it's organic and it's well sourced and all that stuff. The whole natural food is the best thing, but it's a good second place if you're in a situation where the whole of it is very few people are that prepared all the time. And so it's an excellent thing to have in your cupboards. It's an excellent thing.

Or Jessica has it in her purse. Right, so it's Katrina. She carries a little single individual packets in one of the places that we didn't get veggies, then that's an easy way to do it. So to me, what I want to make clear on the podcast because I do get a lot of these DMs, is like people ask, oh, how do I schedule it in? It's like no, you don't schedule your protein shake

or your green juice in your day because you think it's a healthy good choice. It's you're supposed to try and eat whole foods and the reality is there's gonna be times when that's really difficult to do and it's gonna be much easier to reach in your purse or your back pocket. Rip a piece of, you know, rip it open,

the package open, pour it in a water bottle, shake it up and drink it. So that's the way you do it. I'll tell you what though, I haven't had a hot dog in a long time. I am fucking, bro, I am excited. That's not what you told me. What's it?

Wow, yeah. That's so great. I am excited. That's not what you told me What's it? Wow, yeah, that's great. We're back When's it seriously when's the last time you guys have had actual hot dog like a hot dog and bun? So I try I try I try and make a habit of actually a baseball game Yes, I having one one when I'm at a baseball game and I have but I haven't been in a baseball game in almost two years So it's been two or three years since I've had you guys do you guys like the whole Everything on it like the relish the sour crowd and all that just catch it now I like everything on but I could have one just mustard to I could have just a mustard dog or I could pour everything on Oh, I love the sour crowd. Oh, yeah

Just I like my I like my dog burnt. I like it charcox. Oh, what? Yeah, like all the carcinogens all over it Hey, how can I make this process piece of meat worse? Just charred. Yeah, we're gonna do that. Yeah. What would you like on your hot dog? I'll take some ketchup mustard

and can you throw some carcinogens on that? Yeah. Sure, no problem. Do you know what else isn't gonna replace anything, or replace Marvel, I should say is DC. Have you guys watched Aquaman? Oh, terrible. Dude, it was not that good.

It was so comical. I was like watching it with my kids and my wife and I was over at my parents. And we're all watching it. That's all exciting to show us. Did Courtney like it though? Yeah, but like, I mean, I thought. Yeah, but she's not like super into that guy as much as Thor.

Oh, really? Yeah, so. Oh no, Jessica pertains. As soon as we watch that movie, as soon as he comes out of the water, whatever. Yeah, I'm watching her face and she's like nothing Yeah, right. Yeah, she's kept waiting for him and take a shirt off Yeah, when it's gonna happen when you got it didn't really happen

I mean, I think that's the only reason why that show did eat any sort of any anybody Bro, he's reminding me of catwoman the the writing was that bad the dude the effects were terrible It was like so cheesy. Let's be honest of all the superheroes Well, it was like so cheesy. Let's be honest of all the superheroes, Aquaman is the least cool. But you know, in DC, Aquaman is actually one of the strongest. Did you know that? His physical strength,

he almost rivals Superman in the comic book. And yet still people don't care. And nobody gives a shit. They don't care. Yeah, cause he, what does he do? He's stupid. He talks to the whales. Yeah. Not cool, bro. Dude, because he don't care. Yeah, cause he, what does he do? He's stupid. He talks to the whales. Yeah.

Not cool, bro. Dude, bring him out to the lab. The little kidman was in that, and her lines, I was just so like, I just taken back. I'm like, what are they doing? It wasn't that good. Oh, I have to rant about it. Speaking of movies and stuff, so when I was on the plane from Montana or whatever, by the way, do you guys know you can upgrade to like,

premiere, seating in a plane for like, 50 bucks half the time? Do you guys know that? I just learned to keep it. Oh, the like, south. Where? Alaska. Oh, yeah, I was gonna say southwest.

So the trick on Alaska is. I feel like such a baller. Is that sitting in the front? I was like, yeah. At 23 hours and 59 minutes before your flight is to take off, you should call in and try and get upgraded to first class. And you can get first class for like a hundred bucks. Oh, wow.

Oh, thanks for telling me that. That's the way to go. But anyway, I was on the plane and I had access to movies, which is kind of cool. And so they also have documentaries. So I watched a documentary. It was like a five part series. And I only watched the first three episodes on North Korea.

And I think it was a national geographic, I think national geographic did it. But man, are you guys familiar with the history of North Korea? Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. No. It's crazy. I mean, I kind of knew it, but then to watch the documentary, like, I mean, the whole deal

with Korea, basically Japan was, you know, controlled them. And then after World War II, obviously, we beat the crap out of Japan and Germany. And the two superpowers that were left over. We divided it. Us and Russia. Yeah, the two superpowers were the Soviet Union and the US. And that's what we did to Germany, too. We did East and West.

You guys control this. And then with Korea, we're like, well, what do we do? So they literally sat in a room, they looked at a picture of Korea, and they just drew a line. Okay, right there, it looks good. So I think it's a 38th parallel where we divided North and South Korea

just cause it seemed like it would make sense. It's logical. So in the North, the Soviets installed their puppet, you know, leader or whatever, who would, you know, who's a Marxist. And in the South, the Soviets installed their puppet, you know, leader or whatever, who's a Marxist. And in the South, we had them do their elections and stuff like that. But you know, crazy story, and then they attacked the South, and that's why we had the Korean war.

The first leader of North Korea, his son, he put in charge of the propaganda, and that's when shit got weird. That's when he was saying things like, you know, we're, yeah, like I don't poop because I burn on my food, because I work so hard. And they literally teach their people bullshit. And they're so isolated that if an American, they just burn all the books and like,

just get rid of like all information there. Bro, yes, and they tell them the craziest shit. And so from there, I got real, I thought this is insane as I'm watching this whole documentary. So then I went on YouTube and I watched these interviews by North Koreans who would escape to South Korea. These people are so brainwashed like one girl. It took her a year to get normal. She got to South Korea. She couldn't believe what she saw, she couldn't believe it at all. And then she thought for a year she said, I thought that whatever

his name is, the leader Kim Sung, whatever. Yeah, was listening to her thoughts. So she had to be careful of her thoughts. And she was afraid of what would happen. And she thought the Americans were going to kill her and eat her because they were cannibals, because that's what she learned and whatever. That's how fucked up. You're teaching more cannibals.

Oh yeah, that we eat their children. That we're, I mean, crazy shit. I cannot, that's so depressing. It's so depressing to think that there's like an entire country like that. Well, that's why it's scary that they have nukes because like, I'm sure we could, I'm sure we should we go in there kick their ass. They'll probably bomb a nuke. But then what do you do with the people? Yeah, poor people. Well, you got to go in there

and try and run it. They're going to maybe kill themselves. I don't know. Right. Crazy. Did you guys see Russell Crowe's new one? No. Oh, you're going to love this. You definitely got to watch show times new show. It just it just aired the other night. I just could train and I watched the first episode. It's called the loudest voice. It's Russell Crowe. He's like super overweight. He plays Roger Isles.

So the guy who is the executive producer for Fox News, right? Okay. They follow his whole story. So it's all based on like true events, true stories. I saw the trailer. And it was 1996 when Fox News was created. I don't know if you knew that or not. But it tells the story of why and how that all happened.

The first episode was great. Oh, wild. Yeah, no, it's cool. It's like all the behind the scenes, the meetings, how that evolved and that. You said that's on Showtime? Yeah, it's a Showtime series. I'll check out the first one.

The first one just told. I can't and Russell Crowroes is doing a great job I mean, I've only watched the first episode, but you know what he was remarked. Yeah, did you guys ever watch a beautiful mine? No, that was good though Glitter no, that one's good to thanks Justin. Yeah, Les Misraub. Did you guys ever watch that? No, that was not one I would Do like I've seen the play No, no, no, no no have you watched the movie? No, okay, I don't watch just movies of play first of all

First of all, not like on my list. Oh, I'm so tough. Listen to me first of all Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I haven't first of all I showed you It's one of the greatest one of the greatest stories ever written. When you watch it, you'll know what I'm talking about. But in that, he sings and he acts in such profound way. Hey, this is what happens when you listen to Inja and Deadlift. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

You guys are so uncultured. Yeah. Exactly, dude. Hey, oh shit, you know what I didn't tell you guys? What I didn't tell you? New study just came out. This is fucking crazy. Process foods or one of the preservatives. Oh I saw your story.

Is linked, they're linking it to possibly linking it to the spike in autism. Oh boy. What? There goes the neighborhood. There is a preservative in foods called Propionic Acid, PPA. and it's used to extend like shelf life and reduce mold in packaged foods,

breads, and cheeses, and they're finding that it could adversely affect the development and differentiation of neurons in fetal brains in children with autism spectrum disorder. So, they're starting to link this preservative to potentially being one of the reasons why autism is going up. What's it, what's it founded? Processed foods. Like all processed foods? No, no, mainly you have to look it up. You're going to have to look at the back of the food to see

if it's in there. Now, here's the, here's the thing about this thing. It's nice to see what are the common offenders, right? Yes. Well, this is the one that we've identified. I guarantee you there's more. Here's the thing that pisses me off is that these foods have been sold forever. Everybody's like they're totally safe, totally safe, totally safe. Then a study comes out and everybody's like,

oh shit, don't eat that. But meanwhile, thousands of people are eating it. And this only reinforces what we always say, which is rather than thinking something's safe and just assuming it's safe, assume that it's not safe and stick with the whole natural foods because shit like this tends to happen. And it's not just about calories, macros, and whatever.

What were the controls on this study? Like how did they run this study? Well, they did this with, they studied it with mice and they found that it could cause it in mice. So this is step one. Okay. But I don't know, man. Yes.

I'm to pay attention to you for sure. Definitely. Definitely. So I don't, again, I whole natural foods we kind of evolved with. So I'm not saying that they're always going to be safe, but my money would be on that, right? My money would be on this is probably not going to cause weird things later on.

And these invented foods that we've created and throw chemicals in there to preserve it or whatever that, we do studies on and we do a six month or 12 month studying, okay, it's safe. It doesn't really mean it's safe necessarily because we don't know generationally, we don't studies are never perfect. And this just kind of highlights that

and it's a little bit. A little sad. Well, man, we can look up, I love to see like what it's most common. I mean, it's such a broad statement to say in processed foods. Like, is there's got to be certain foods that it's more common? I think breads is what the article said, but I don't know. I haven't looked it up. It's to prevent mold, the growth of mold. So think of things that mold. So breads, cheese is. Okay. And I can think, I can't think of anything else I'll stop talking about it. No more easy cheese for me.

I don't know if milk, I don't know if it would be a milk, I don't think so. So, and especially if you get organic milk, right? I don't think so. Anyway, oh, another cool thing. So, everybody's doing protein rice now with the kettle and fire. Dude, I tell you, that's just fine.

I tell you what, I sense that. That's the only way I make my rice now. I just make sure I stay stocked up on the kettle and fire stuff in my refrigerator, and every time we make rice. Yeah, I had 20-something grams of protein to rice. And here's the thing too, I make rice and bulk, and one of the things that anyone makes rice and bulk,

and you put it in your refrigerator, the next day you normally have to add more water to it because it gets all hard and sticky, and then to fluff it back up. When you do it with the broth, it keeps it all fluffy. It's because there's protein in there. Yeah, yeah. It tastes better that way.

So the store is better that way? For the listeners that don't know, you can, instead of using water to make rice, you can use bone broth and our favorite is kettle and fire and replace the water. And now you have rice that contains protein because bone broth has got collagen protein in it. But they also have like meals in cartons like what is it, chili? I still haven't tried that.

Oh, it's fucking amazing. So make your protein rice, then put the kettle and fire chili on top of it. You have an incredible macro profile. You've got lots of protein, healthy fats, you've got your carbs and your starches from some of the beans and the chili but also from the rice.

But here's what they also do. They have subscriptions now. So you can go online and sign up for a bone broth subscription where they'll mail to your door, you know, X amount of cartons of, you know, maybe like you can get six cartons a month or 12 cartons or 18 cartons of bone broth a month. It's crazy that we're going this to, I just actually finally got my dog food on subscription like that.

I had been ordering my dog food one at a time, like we're picking it up at the store and finally figured it out. I'm like, you know, I just need to sit down and do the math on how many times I serve out of a bag and then figure out, okay, I need two bags. I got that, yeah. Oh man, so much nicer now. Cause it's one of those things that I always forget to check and then I go down to go fill

Their bowls up and oh shit bags out like I go to run the store now having it delivered all the time And it seems like everything is going that direction where we just have everything Yeah, that's like the first step I haven't quite done that with gross reason yet It's except for like butcher box. So like that. You know where I'm constantly getting, you know, that supply, but other than that, I can totally see the convenience is there, it's awesome. No, it's amazing, and it's, typically we'll save you money, and it's an ask, you know, internet sales.

I was gonna ask you that, is there no brainer? Is it a deal? Do you get a better deal? Do you get a better deal? Oh, okay. Yeah, because they mail it to your door. Oh, shit, I may as well do.

I'm using, I mean, we, rice is a staple, a staple. Well, see, I like bone broth for breaking a fast. And I also like it as a whole natural alternative protein shakes post workout. So after a workout, you know, if I don't, if I don't eat food, because that's the ideal, right? Just eat some food if I want to do the post workout thing. There's either the other options are the convenience

of a protein shake or the convenience of bone broth which you just warm up and you sip on it and it's obviously different than protein powder, right? It's not sweet, so it's got that kind of savory flavor. And I add a little salt to it so now I can replenish my electrolytes, I got the collagen protein and it's made from real food. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods

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But then I actually discovered the true benefit of resistance band. And the way I was introduced to the real benefit of resistance bands was just studying strength athletes. And in particular, it was power lifters. And I noticed that a lot of power lifters were using resistance bands to augment their training. Like they would do a squat. They would also use chains and stuff, but they'd use bands too.

Yeah. Where they would do a squat. And instead of squatting with 500 pounds, they would squat with 300 pounds, but then they'd have bands attached to the bar and anchored in the floor. And I thought to myself, like, why do that? Why not just add weight? And as I thought about it, it dawned on me. Resistance bands produce a different type of resistance.

A different, the way the resistance hits you is far different. If I'm lifting a barbell, and I'm doing a barbell squat, for example, if I have 300 pounds of the bar, it's 300 pounds at the top, it's 300 pounds at the top, it's 300 pounds at the bottom. It's all the way through to 300 pounds. If I attach a band,

the band is heaviest when it's most stretched out. So the further you stretch out a band, the harder the resistance becomes. So the shorter it becomes, the easier it is. So if I attach a band at the top of the bar, at the top of the weight, where I'm strongest, at the top of the rep, I should say, it's heaviest.

When I squat down, it gets easier, where I'm weakest. So now I can match my strength curve. And when I started adding bands like that to my workouts, I was fucking blown away by the results. The other thing with bands that I like is that they send a muscle building signal. It's not as loud by themselves. Not as loud as free weights might do, but the benefit of that is they don't damage the body. And so for something like trigger sessions,

which trigger sessions for me, I've always been a game changer. It's a staple in Maps and Obolic. It's something that I think eventually will go mainstream beyond Maps and Obolic. I think people will go mainstream beyond MAP's endabolic. I think people will start implementing the concept of trigger sessions where on your off days you're doing very light movements,

you're doing low intensity, but still getting a little bit of a pump, it sends a muscle building signal, facilitates recovery, it gets your body to improve faster. And the best way to do those is with bands because they're A, convenient, and B, they just don't cause much damage. I don't get a sword, I don't get a beat up

with bands I could do with weights, and so it's perfect for trigger sessions. I think I realized how effective bands were around the same time that I realized that I didn't need to be training so intensely every single workout. And that's when that really, I think when you're still in that mindset of,

I gotta go to the gym and I gotta beat myself up. And then you feel like a band workout, it seems like it's worthless in comparison to that, right? Like you go in and you do some barbell lifts to failure, like they feel nothing like a rubber band for can workout, nothing at all like that. Even if you have heavy hard bands. Right.

Exactly. It just doesn't feel anything as bad as that does as far soreness is concerned in the body aches and everything that comes from that. And so when I was training and chasing that feeling all the time, the thought of bands was like, oh, these are worthless, this is pointless. But once I knew better and realized that I had to back off

my intensity and I started to see more results in my training, then the application of bands became great. And that's the same thing that you alluded to, Sal. And I don't know if we have any real science to support this, although it just, it makes logical sense to me that when you're holding free weights and your body's got to stabilize them all over the place, that the type of damage or the type of recruitment that you're going to get from all different muscles and soreness is going to be and the demand on the CNS I would think would be much greater. And I think too, I speculate that a lot of people are weak in the end range of motion,

and they don't put a lot of work in that, especially in their training. If they're not doing a lot of mobility practices, all these things, they're just trying to get the weight to the point if they're not doing a lot of mobility practices, all these things, they're just trying to get the weight to the point where they're the strongest, you know, and see if they can like use whatever technique they can with momentum or whatever to get the weight in that direction. And I think that bands kind of,

they gradually take you into that peak of, of, you know, the strongest point and then bring you back. And so you really have to hyper focus on that whole process and feel, you know feel how much tension you need to still apply throughout that entire range of motion. Now that being said, it's a tool. It's another tool that I think is very... It's one of the best tools.

No, it's an incredible tool and extremely useful, not just for trigger sessions, but also like what Sal was saying where you can add it to your basic barbell lifts, and everything like that, and manipulate the strength curve. So there's a ton of value in using them. I just, be careful of the people that are in the camp of it's all you need.

It's all you need, it's all in, and it's not, can you get in shape and only use bands? Sure. Is it the most optimal or the fastest way to get in shape? Absolutely not. I think if you combine it with other modalities, like you're saying Adam, if you did body weight exercises and you did bands,

you'd have a great, like maps anywhere, we do that. There's band exercises in there and we're also doing body weight movements. And so the way that we inject bands is in a way that maximizes the frequency build. It maximizes the benefits that the bands can provide. One of the reasons why I think bands maybe not don't create as much damage is what we have found is that when resistance is added to a muscle in its elongated or stretched position, you tend to get more

damage. When resistance is added to a muscle and it's contracted position, you tend to get more damage. When resistance is added to a muscle and it's contracted, position, you tend to get less damage. And bands, the resistance tends to be lighter when the muscle is extended and harder when there's a full contraction. So it's really, really good. It's working a muscle through the way its natural strength curve works

and not overloading it where it may cause a lot of damage. Now the good part about that is you can do a lot of them frequently and you can do more work with these and not worry so much about recovery like you would with free weights. The bad news is you have to do more with bands to get the same bang for your buck that you get with free weights. But that's why combining it with other exercise modalities like body weight training or like free weights and machines, that is ideal. And so that's why I think it's a great transitionary tool, like you said, with the powerlifting,

especially, like you keep adding in like two and a half plates, it is one way to do it and like incrementally work the load, you know, slowly like that, but also just, you know, if you're stuck at a certain weight to then add, you know, rubber bands to work through that gives you a new stimulus. Now, that being said, what are your guys' thoughts on the growing trend of adding them to hammer strength machines and selectorizer machines? I think now they're using it like a gimmick. It's silly.

Yeah, now they're using it like a, I mean, could you program it in a way to where it makes sense with on machines? Yeah, you probably could. I have yet to see. The only people I ever see programming bands properly are strength athletes, power lifters in particular, and high level athletes who use bands for explosive work. That's another thing bands are great for.

Bands are phenomenal for explosive type exercises because they're safe to do so. I mean, it rises the damage on the joints. Yes, but as far as the way people use them now, on, you know, I see on social media, just like most of the stuff I see on social media around fitness, they see something and they're like, oh, this is cool, people say it works.

So now I'm just gonna throw it in. No, no, just because it works, doesn't mean it's gonna work if you just throw it in. You have to use it in a particular way to make it, to really maximize its benefits or to get any benefit from it. So it needs to be programmed properly. Yeah, I saw a guy doing the sideways chest press on a hammer strength with bands attached

to it the other day and I was just like, might give a little more benefit for doing just some dumbbell press. Yeah, you're doing a stupid exercise and then you add a band to it. So it's now slightly better than stupid. Next question is from Semano 81. I have stopped using wrist wraps and a belt while dead lifting and I can't lift nearly as much. Will I still make gains at this new lower weight? What can I do to keep progressing at the lower weight?

No doubt, you can lift more weights when you use lifting aids like wrist straps and the belt. Now, can you still make gains? Yes, the gains will be different. What do I mean by that? The gains you'll be making now are going to be focused on your weakest links more than before. Exactly. So what's preventing you from lifting as much weight as you could before? Your grip isn't as strong as it was with wrist straps and Your core isn't as stable as it was wearing a belt. So the two places You're going to make the most gains at this point there. Yeah, or you're your grip and you're in your core

Which is not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing. That's actually a good thing. Now, somebody may be like, hey, I don't care about my grip on my core. I want to keep getting gains in my glutes, hamstrings, and back. In which case, that you could make an argument to say, fine, stick to your wrist straps and belt. But, you know, I'm the kind of person that's like this.

It's like, unless you're competing with those things on you, you know, most of your day is not in the gym, deadlifting with these aids. Most of your day consists of you not wearing these things. Do you really wanna have a type of strength that can't be applied as effectively and efficiently in the real world? Yeah, you're creating a weaker link for you down the road.

That's gonna end up being exposed when you do a movement that you know you're strong enough to do, but now you've gotten so strong in that movement and haven't built up your grip or your core to back you up on that lift when you're not strapped, you're not belted, you're gonna be in the world of hurt. I'm on both sides of this.

Like I see value in it sometimes, especially when I was competing. When I was competing, if my forms were the limiting factor to me trying to develop my back more, and I'm trying to create more of a V-taper by building my back even more massive and impressive, and the judges aren't telling me my forms aren't developed enough or strong enough and I could give two shits about them. I saw definitely value in me using straps to keep pushing those limits because that's what my goals were. So for me, like when I talk about this to somebody, it's like, it's pure aesthetic. Right.

And so you know, so on the same person who would absolutely use belt straps for those reasons during those times and where I'm at right now, I actually have a really hard time going anything above about 350 on my dead list because once I get 350 and over 5 reps, I lose grip. And so I'm still training with that weight because I'm trying to develop my grip strength and I want it to be more because I don't have to get on stage. And I really don't care if my V taper is bigger or not, like I care more about being balanced. So to me, the answer is like, just really understand your goals and who you are and what you care about. And if you understand that, you know, for the average person who just wants to be balanced and doesn't want injuries and wants

to be strong and all aspects, then using tools very judiciously, in my opinion, is the most ideal way to train. But that doesn't mean that it's wrong if someone decides to use straps or a belt or tools like this, just know that you're crushing one area to try and exaggerate another area. And if you're not getting on stage, or you don't really care that much about that big difference,

then you would probably want to close the gap on that discrepancies. I think I was, I want to say early to mid-20s when I ditched the wrist straps. And up until that point, I had been, remember I started lifting weights consistently at the age of 14. So I've been lifting weights for a long time. And every single back workout that I did was with wrist straps because I saw the bodybuilders do it. And so that's just what I did. When it was back day, I brought my wrist straps with me and I'd wrap them around the bar when I did pull downs or rows or dumbbell rows or machine rows.

And so I trained like that for, I don't know, eight to 10 years. And I remember when I took off the wrist straps. And the reason why I took them off is I think I was doing something with my dad. And I've talked about him many times on this podcast. And I was just, I couldn't believe how much stronger his grip was than mine. I lift the weights all the time. And I was like, oh, this fuck is that. I gotta get my grip stronger.

So I threw away the wrist straps. You know how long it took me before my grip could actually catch up to the rest of my body? Probably a year, right? It took me like a year or more. I remember for like, for like six months, like my hands would just get fatigued

and my forearms would get pumped and I'd have to go lighter and lighter and lighter. But after about a year and a half or so, my grip really caught up. And now it's not really a limiting factor anymore. It doesn't limit me on any of my lifts. So when you make this switch, so if you stick to the switch,

if you think to yourself, like I don't wanna use these aids anymore, I just wanna lift without them, be patient. It's gonna take you a long time. Yeah, it's gonna take you a very, very long time. And don't think you're not what you won't do is you're not going to also start losing muscle on your back. That's the great.

Thank you for bringing that up. You're not. You're not going to, that's what you need to understand that like it's not like, oh shit, now that you can't deadlift 400 pounds anymore. Like also in your back, it's going to start shrinking. Like you're not going to see, you're not going to see a difference or really feel a difference

in the back. Well, all it'll be All it'll be more an ego check for you. And that's what it is for me. Like right now going to the gym and being the guy who's used to rip in 500 pounds up off the ground and working with 300 and something. Like yeah, and I'll tell you, that's where it gets me. And I'm looking to my left and my right and there's two people that are dead left

and more wait to me and I know I'm strong enough to get more of, that's the only thing I got to worry about is checking that like it has nothing my back development is just as fine. Yeah, I never use wrist straps anymore, but I use a belt, but I only use a belt if I go over 400, 450, then I'll put the belt on and that's just because I developed a friendship with my belt.

So I like it, I pull it out 500 pounds, let's do this and more psychological. Yeah, well, I mean, it with my belt. So I like it, I pull it out, 500 pounds, let's do this. And it's more psychological. Yeah, well, I mean, it does help me. If I don't wear the belt, I mean, could I, I've done 500 without a belt, but it's not as easy. That's for sure. I'm pretty sure I can lift a good 30 more pounds with the belt on, but yeah, I mean, give yourself some time.

It's gonna take at least a year to be able to do what you do before without those things. Next question is from Danny Burtick. How hard is it to actually lose muscle? Yeah, not hard at all. Yeah, that's really easy. Well, and I also think that this, there's a big difference in genetics here too. And what comes to mind right away, I mean, when I had a, I had an ex-girlfriend who was

a competitor and, you know, we couldn't have been more opposites as far as the way our genetic makeup. She, she is the one that had just muscle. Like, she barely had to exercise her lift weights. Her body always was, she started touching weights and she built muscle. Just a horse. She could run a, and I remember when her coach was, was training her and they had her on like a 1100 calories and doing cardio and like she did not lose muscle. Like she barely lost any weight on the scale and could push her body.

It's annoying. Yeah, it is. Especially for a guy like me because what I notice right away is if I don't hit the, the, the intake as far as the macro profiles that I need. If I'm not getting that protein intake, I'm not stimulating muscle. My body does start to adapt and lose muscle mass really fast. Yeah, and same for me, but I will say this, the longer that you keep muscle on your body,

the more it becomes easy to get it back quote unquote permanent, okay? It's never permanent, but it becomes more permanent. I remember When I had my wellness studio years ago next next door to my wellness studio was a Breakfast joint. It was a coffee shop and it would always get super busy on the weekend They had really really good food great flank steak there and yeah do. And I remember I was training a client one day and it was Saturday morning and there was this little, he was probably five foot, six or seven man who was in his 80s.

It's like this 80 year old man and he's sitting on the bench and he stands up so he can kind of see into the gym what we're doing, he's watching us. And we're working out and I see him watching. It's okay, it wasn't too out of the ordinary because people would watch some time. But then he walked in. And I remember I'm training my client

and I'm in the middle of a set. I'm spotting my client. So I don't really have the time to tell this person, you know, to acknowledge that this person's walking in. And this 80-something year old man comes in, grabs my 70 pound kettlebell and he cleans it and then he presses it with one arm and he puts it back down. And I was like, holy shit, so I stopped training my client.

I'm like, hold on a second, I'm like, man, I'm like, did you just press that? And he had a Russian accent. And I looked at this guy's forearms and they were, I mean, he was obviously old. You could tell he wasn't really working out anymore. But he had these little, like, little soft balls on his forearms. So I said, you've done that before, haven't you? And he goes, oh yes, he goes, I used to be National Olympic Lifter for Soviet Union

or whatever. So I'm like, I do work out anymore. He's like, no, I haven't worked out for like 50 years, or however long. And it made me realize that he had trained so hard and so long, and so consistently for so long that he stopped working out and there was a amount of muscle that became kind of permanent on his body.

I'm noticing that now at 40 years old. Like when I was 18 or 20, if I had a knee right and didn't exercise, my muscle was gone in two days. Now I still lose muscle, but it's not as fast and I gain it back really quick. You get it back really quick. Really quick.

I mean, I think of it and it's kind of a weird or a different analogy, but it's like riding a bike. I mean, you cannot ride a bike for 20 years and get back on a bike and ride it. But because the muscle memory is there from doing it for so long that there's definitely got to be some CNS stuff that's happened that you've suddenly. I think there's muscle hyperplasia, muscle fiber hyperplasia. Yeah, that too, but definitely the patterns you've established and hardwired into your body, all those years, that has to play a factor in that

and then responding, because you're so hyper responsive, because your body recognizes. Yeah, well, when you work out, your muscle fibers obviously grow, it's known as muscle hypertrophy, but then there's widely believed that through, you know through extended exposure to resistance training type stress, like over and over and over and over again

for years and years and years, your muscle fibers actually split and become two new muscle fibers with their own satellite cells and all that stuff. And when it ends up happening when you stop working out is muscle fibers shrink, but you don't lose muscle fibers. So if you end up building and developing more, like a greater number of muscle fibers shrink, but you don't lose muscle fibers. So if you end up building and developing more,

like a greater number of muscle fibers, that stays with you. So although your muscles can shrink, or the fibers can shrink, you don't lose the number of fibers. And I think that's what's happened to me, and I think that's what happens. Other people has been working out for years

is that they've just got more muscle fibers now. So although they'll still shrink and lose muscle, it's not like I used to be. I don't think Ben packs ever gonna lose muscle. Oh, see what a great example. Right, so they'll still shrink and lose muscle, it's not like a used to be. Ben Pax ever going to lose muscle. See what a great example. Right. So hard it was from the lose muscle. If you try, it's so crazy, failing at that. But yeah, it's always going to be a monster.

But if you ever want to see how fast you can lose muscle, I don't recommend you do this, but you know, take some gauze, wrap up your knee or your arm. Don't use it at all. You go, walk around on a wheelchair, put your leg up, don't activate it whatsoever. Take the gauze off a week later, and you will trip yourself out. How much muscle you do?

I think this question, though, stems from somebody like me when I was 17 years old, and I was worried that, like, if I didn't hit my protein and take that day, or I didn't train super hard, that muscle would just start falling. Or if I ate low calorie for a day, that my body... Now, muscle is not easy to lose when... If you're a consistent lifter, you're consistent at eating and you decide to fast one day. What's not gonna happen?

No, your body's not gonna all send switch over and start metabolizing muscles. It's primary source of fuel at all. It's priority is always to get sugar, glucose first. If it runs and taps out of that, the next favorite source is body fat. It would rather use fat as fuel. Its last source is the pairing down muscle. It's very, very rare that that would even happen. More likely, your body would adapt to the lack of using it and or feeding it what it needs

to maintain that. The two things that will make you lose muscle are the two big things that will make you lose muscle. Our illness, illness can definitely cause your body to get rid of muscle and inactivity. Those are the two biggest things. If you stop moving, you'll lose strength and muscle very quickly.

Cause your body has that, your muscles are there for a purpose. And the purpose is to move, function, and support your body, but they are also expensive in the sense that they utilize a lot of calories. So your body's always weighing out, do we need this muscle?

Because if we have it, we're gonna require more calories. And if you don't have a reason to need the muscle, in other words, you're inactive, your body's like, cool, we can become more efficient. We don't need a V8 engine, we only need a 4 cylinder. Let's get rid of these extra 4 cylinders. So those are really the two main ways you can cause your body to lose a lot of muscle. The other ways you could cause your body to lose muscle by sending a signal through activity to tell your

body that you need less muscle. Yeah, like lots of running. Yeah, like super long endurance type stuff. That could cause you to lose muscle, but that requires a lot of work. And I can't think of, oh, in starving yourself for very, very long periods of time, but like Adam said, your body is going to get rid of its body fat. Once it gets rid of that, then it'll start burning muscle. It doesn't happen too much later. You have to do a really long fast for that. Next question is from Kay Rock.

I am almost two months postpartum and have terrible forward shoulder from breastfeeding to baby wearing. Nearly all my activities are only making my posture worse. What can I do to combat this? You know, this is where what I used to love, this is the part of my job that I used to love as a personal trainer. And this is also where I try and explain to people

that all the maps programs are great skeletons or foundations, a foundation as far as like where you should start from and then build or modify from there. And this is a person that I would modify some things, right? I would, we're less worried about maybe shrugs and calf exercises, or I don't care if you get as many squats or deadlifts in this week, but what I wanna do is I definitely wanna ramp up

the frequency of exercises like CD rows and rear delts and bent over type rows and areas that are going to work on the muscles that are gonna help combat this problem. So if we have this forward shoulder where our shoulders are round and forward, we have forward head, what ends up happening is all those upper back muscles are elongated and they need to be trained and shortened and tightened.

And so strength and strength. So that's what we want to do. And so I want to do that as frequently as possible. So my trigger sessions, like so if, is following maps and a ball. My trigger sessions now become band pull-up parts and band rows all the time. Your exercise, I'm making sure that every day there's some sort of a row movement inside of your exercises

and it may replace, maybe deadlifting or something else. This is how you modify, and this is how you make something custom to use. You still follow a training program in routine, but you now start to individualize it by the specific areas. What would be a good program for someone like her? Because she's two months postpartum, so I'm assuming that time and schedule is a bit of an issue.

So she might not have the time to go to a gym. She might not have a sitter, you know, a baby that's two months old, many times you don't want to leave your baby with someone. Maps anywhere would be perfect for someone like this. And in maps anywhere, we actually placed a special emphasis on scapular retraction and depression through exercises like prone cobras and other banded movements that we included in there. Here's the thing, there's a two-tiered approach

to correcting a deviation and posture or to correct a muscle imbalance. Number one, you wanna do some appropriately intense type exercise to make those muscle stronger. And I say appropriate because you wanna go as heavy as your form will allow you to go. Because you have forward shoulder, if you just start pushing the weight,

past a certain point, your form is gonna look shitty because you're just not connected and strong to some of those muscles. So use as much weight as your formal allow you to do. So with being able to pull the shoulders back and strengthen those muscles. You wanna do those workouts relatively infrequently. So you're looking at two days or three days a week

of those harder workouts. But there's a second part. The second part is every single day you want to do some kind of a movement or combination of movements that helps you connect to those muscles of the mid-back to give you that better posture. The reason why you want to do it so frequently is because you're trying to out-compete what you're doing all day long with your breastfeeding, holding the baby in front of you. You have to out-compete that. You have to send a signal that's louder

than the one that you're currently sending it. Otherwise, that's the signal that's gonna dominate and your form is just gonna stay bad. And that's most the training because it has to be conscious. A conscious effort throughout your day of Finding opportunities to place your shoulders in that that position that's more beneficial for you and also squeeze and and really connect with you know That that posture and solidify that because it is it's tough because like most of the tasks and everything is very forward position

You're always leaning over you're always you always with your head forward and your shoulders rolled. So to make those opportunities happen, you have to be very conscious and make an effort towards that like continuously. Well, this is where the fun part of customizing your program and individualizing it for you and why there always be value in a personal trainer and even our programs are amazing that we still encourage people to modify and change because the most important thing that if this is an issue for you, the most important thing that we can do along whatever your fitness goals are, would that be leaning up or building

strength, what that is, is this, is to address this while also getting in better shape. And, you know, you're going to burn calories and build muscle by doing this, and now you wanna make this a high priority because it's also gonna make you feel a lot better. Yeah, and as far as form and control is concerned, the way you should approach your exercises is controlled and connected. So with, when you're trying to correct an imbalance, it's all about perfect form.

So go ahead and train hard, but the form has to be perfect. If your form breaks, go lighter. If your form breaks and you still go hard, you'll end up strengthening your current type of posture, which is the forward shoulder. You'll actually make it much worse. It's quite common with women who just have a baby. It's also common with women who get breast augmentation, is shoulder impingement issues and frozen shoulder. And that's because that forward shoulder position, when the shoulder blades are rolled forward

the way they are, and then you try to move your rotation. Yeah, you lose, you can potentially lose a tremendous amount of range of motion. And then what also comes with that is next strain and tightness and headaches. And so I, so many times, I used to love doing this as a trainer, because this was like my, this was like my hook, man, I'd take somebody with forward shoulder, I'd correct that for them.

And then it asked them, do you still get tension headaches? And they'd be like, oh my God, no, I don't get him. Yeah, yeah. You were caused by you. You actually did an incredible video on Mind Plum TV so if you don't have all maps anywhere or have one of our programs already that you could kind of modify and put this in there you have a free resource on Mind Plum TV on a video that Sal titled How to Fix Rounded Shoulders and it's's- We'll put that in the show notes too. Yeah, and it's got four steps on, and it's to the points of what we're making right now. It's a great video.

And for somebody who's already following any other program whether it's ours or not, you just integrate that. Integrate these exercises and movements. And quite frankly, you want to do them as frequently as possible. You're just trying like- You're just practicing them all day. Yeah, so absolutely, I'd as frequently as possible. You're just trying to practice them all day. Yeah, so absolutely add that into your routine. Perfect. And with that, go to MindPumpFree.com

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