Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1074: The Truth About Testosterone Boosters, How to Maximize Load on Muscles While Minimizing Stress on Joints, the Next Big Health Fad & MORE
Episode Date: July 13, 2019In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how put maximum load on the muscles and minimum... load on the joints when exercising, the difference between mobility and priming movements, the benefits of the Turkish Get-Up, and the next big health fad. Mind Pump recommends The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast episode 222 with Matt McCarthy. (4:10) Sal’s ‘cold-busting’ formula to keep you from getting sick. (6:43) How have Adam’s dogs adjusted to baby Maximus? (11:07) Scientists: We'll grow babies in artificial wombs “In a decade.” Why this highlights human's arrogance. (19:38) Why there is so much stuff we just don’t know. Skeleton plundered from a Mexican cave was one of the Americas’ oldest. (27:40) Mind Pump recommends Rocketman: The epic story of Elton John. (31:36) Study links daily sips of soda or juice to cancer risk. How context matters in the grand scheme of health. (35:38) Are testosterone-boosting supplements effective? Not likely, according to new research. (40:40) #Quah question #1 – How do you put maximum load on the muscles and minimum load on the joints when exercising? Resistance training for example. (46:02) #Quah question #2 - Mobility and priming movements seem pretty similar. What are the differences between them if any? (56:05) #Quah question #3 – What are the benefits of the Turkish Get-Up and where can they be plugged into a program? (1:04:33) #Quah question #4 – What is the next big health fad that you predict? (1:14:57) People Mentioned Jordan Harbinger (@jordanharbinger) Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness) Instagram Dr. Jordan Shallow D.C (@the_muscle_doc) Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “ANYWHERE50” at checkout** The Jordan Harbinger Show 222: Matt McCarthy | The Race to Stop a Superbug Epidemic Visit Organifi for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Breaking the Pit Bull Stigma: A History of the "Nanny Dog" | PetHelpful Scientists: We’ll Grow Babies in Artificial Wombs “In a Decade” One of the oldest skeletons ever seen in the Americas was found in a flooded cave — and it could reshape our understanding of human history Rocketman (2019) - Rotten Tomatoes A small glass of juice or soda a day is linked to increased risk of cancer, study finds ‘Testosterone Boosting’ Supplements Composition and Claims Are not Supported by the Academic Literature MAPS Fitness Prime | Muscle Adaptation Programming System How To Do A Turkish Get-Up – Mind Pump TV 3 Turkish Get-Up Variations - Tutorial with Kettlebell Master of Sport Mind Pump Free Resources
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Here's what we talked about in the first 40 minutes, our intro portion of this episode.
I talk about my cold avoidance protocol.
My girlfriend has a terrible cold, and so I sprung into action and implemented my cold,
busting formulas, which included
L-Buster.
Thank you.
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Adam then gives us a rundown on how his dogs
are reacting to new baby maximus in the house.
Looks like they've all become great friends.
They're best buds.
I talked about an article on artificial wombs
apparently in the next 10 years,
we're gonna be making babies outside of the womb.
I'm pretty sure this is a R.O.E. doing.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a few sci-fi movies
that talked about the dangers of that,
but whatever, let's ignore that.
Warning.
Justin talked about the 13,000 year old skeleton
that was found in Mexico and how it talked
about different species of humans.
That's kind of cool.
It's crazy.
I talked about the movie Rocket Man,
excellent movie, highly, highly recommend.
There was a study on juice and soda, apparently drinking a glass of juice or a glass of soda
every day according to this particular study resulted in an increased risk of cancer.
So you won't want to miss that.
It's bad for you.
Then I talked about testosterone boosters and how researchers went through the top 50 testosterone
boosters and found out, through the top 50 testosterone boosters
and found out, guess what, they're all bullshit.
And then we get into the fitness portion of this episode, the first fitness question,
how do you put maximal load on your muscles and put minimal load on your joints?
So how do you work out hard but also save your joints from pain, wear, and tear.
The next question, this person wants to know the difference between mobility and priming
movements.
Are they different?
And if so, examples.
So we talk all about that in that part of this episode.
The next question, what are the benefits of the Turkish get up?
There's a lot of people out there that say the Turkish get up is a waste of time.
And there's other people who say it's one of the greatest exercises ever invented. We give our input on the Turkish get
up in that part of this episode. And the final question, this person wants to know what
we think the next big health fad is going to be now. We've been prophets in the past and
have predicted things in the past. See if we're accurate again. Listen, and then let's wait and see if it stands
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Also, I do love to listen to podcasts
and one of the best podcasts that I found on iTunes
and other mediums is the Jordan Harbinger podcast.
He interviews the best guests
and I learn quite a bit from a show every time I listen.
And he's here with me right now.
Jordan, the episode you just did
with Dr. Matt McCarthy blew my mind.
Yeah, this guy is an infectious disease specialist.
And it's funny, because we were supposed to originally
do the episode at UCLA where he was lecturing,
but we couldn't go there because there's a measles outbreak.
Oh, I was like the irony of this,
because my wife's pregnant, so she couldn't go near it,
and she was doing the videography.
But this is really fascinating in this guy,
because he discusses the overuse of antibiotics,
which probably isn't news to people who listen to mind pump.
But since we're using antibiotics for everything,
like even in hand soap,
we're creating these really resistant strains of bacteria
that not only can kill people who have immune
compromised systems or compromised immune systems,
they can kill healthy people.
And like if you get this, basically you have to take
this other drug that annihilates your kidneys
in your liver in order to get rid of this infection.
And it's just getting worse and worse and worse.
And he talks about how we're developing drugs
at a glacial pace to combat this
because there's no profit
in developing new antibiotics.
Wow, that was that part scared to hell out of me,
but it didn't scare me as much as the part
where he talked about how,
because of the changing climate,
we're thawing out like permafrost,
or whatnot, and we're getting like new diseases pop up,
we haven't seen for thousands of years.
Exactly, so like there's a case of anthrax
that happened totally naturally in I think
Northern Russia or Siberia because reindeer
that I guess are immune to anthrax and are just riddled
with this are thawing out and they've been dead
for you know I don't know 300 years or 200 year.
However long I don't think since an ice age
but they've been frozen for a long-ass time.
And I said okay wait a minute.
So if there's stuff like that that's frozen
in Northern Russia where there's actually people,
what's in the bottom of caves,
what's in the North Pole glaciers?
And he's like, they're definitely can be stuff.
He's like, I don't wanna alarm you,
but there's a lot of bacteria we've never seen before
that we have no natural resistance to,
because humans maybe didn't even exist
when this was like colonizing
and is now,
you know, four million years under.
I'm not trying to get the dinosaur flu,
so I don't know about you.
Anyway, once that.
Anyway, that episode was awesome.
It's episode 222, Dr. Matt McCarthy.
You gotta go check this out.
It's a Jordan Harbanger podcast.
Hey, so I got an interesting anecdote for you guys.
I'm sad.
So this never happens. So I don't know what's going on here,
but so as you know, Adam, Jessica hasn't been able
to come see the baby because she's got a terrible cold,
which she never, ever has.
This must be like tearing her apart.
It's so much she wants to go see.
She's so upset about it, but anyway, she never gets a cold. She's not that she doesn't get sick often at all
She's like an immune system of a horse
I'm the one that'll get like if there's a cold anywhere in the vicinity
Yeah, I get it and then it hits me bad and then you can hear my voice change everything people
I'm sure people have heard episodes where my voice is all weird because I caught the cold anyway
She has a terrible cold as soon as she started talking about it,
I went into action and started using
all the immune boosting stuff that I knew, right?
So I did my elderberry zinc lozenges
and I did the organifi immunity powder.
Now I do the elderberry always,
if I feel like I'm gonna get sick,
and I know it does help.
That's actually one of the only things
proven to help and it reduces the brain. What are the greatest hacks you ever gave me? Yeah, yeah definitely
But this time I threw in the organify
immunity and so normally what'll happen is if someone's sick around me especially Jessica because I still kisser and stuff so whatever
Normally what'll happen is I'll still get the cold, but it'll just be milder, and it'll linger a little bit,
but I'm not gonna get the terrible, you know,
part of the cold.
You know what happened this time?
Nothing.
I got nothing.
At all.
You truly are one of the greatest closers.
Did you see what he just did right there Justin?
What did he do?
He just justified his fucking weird ass voice
and through a commercial and the same fucking time right there.
You see that?
Did you see what he just did right there?
That's why I didn't trust him initially.
I mean, I just played like I said like I'm talking through my nose all the time.
Oh my god, I'm gonna throw a commercial for our gratifying that.
That was gold.
That was gold.
It is a pleasure to work with you.
Thank you.
It's an absolute pleasure to work with you. It is it's absolutely it's an absolute pleasure
You know if I ever feel the sensation like I'm getting a cold like yes, that's that's what I'm doing
God damn listen to me listen Linda. This is my normal voice. You're saying that my normal voice
I'm gonna tell you guys this I can't let it tell my
So yes listen so I heard my
Listen Linda. Okay, so it's gonna be a feeling. So we shared we shared the first time with the storm when you guys came to the hospital and you saw max for the first time
It was Sal got his first real cry out, right? So that was really funny, right? We made it it was a great laugh and shit
This is fucking true stories where to gotten yesterday
so the episode goes live of
me talking about the birth and Katrina and Cassie,
my sister at my house, and they see it and they hear about it and they're like, oh, put
it on.
I want to hear it.
And so we put it on the TV.
And I'm laying there and actually Max and Mrs. Skin to Skin and Sleeping on my chest,
right?
It's like my favorite thing right now.
And I'm in the living room.
We throw it up on the TV
and we start it.
And I kid you not, okay?
From a cold dead sleep, he fucking wakes up crying
when South's voice comes on in the intro.
And then it gets better.
So he's crying and I'm soothing him and like,
it's okay, it's okay.
The South's gonna stop talking real soon.
You're too late.
And then I don't lie to your camera. I was the one. Because it's okay the sounds gonna stop talking real soon you're doing it.
Don't lie to your camera.
Because you know I'm not gonna stop.
And then I come on and start telling the story and swear to God it comes right down and
it goes right back to sleep.
It was a funnier thing.
No it is true.
You do tend to put people to sleep.
Wow.
On the podcast.
I like it.
I just want that.
That's good.
Damn it. Damn it. I do have a piercing voice. I've only you spun that. That's good. Damn it. Damn it.
I do have a piercing voice.
What do you have to do about it?
I've only been told that five trillion times
by everybody.
Yeah, the irony is like every kid in America loves you.
Yeah, I'm gonna see about that.
That's weird.
I'm gonna win them over.
Weird.
I'll use candy.
Weird that, like Adam goes,
I'm gonna go fuck.
I'm a briber.
I'll,
you just definitely my boy.
Yeah, when I,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah. When I see your kid, I'm gonna be a little lollipop
Start the yeah start the training. Oh, I'm not looking forward to what those days start happening
Well, when people start bringing them can. Yeah, it's when family starts to look at his face when you give my scream
Like no half on that dude look at yeah, look at your face. What I do to it after you do that
That's so funny how are the dogs with them? You know what? I do do it after you do that. That's so cool. That's so cool. That's so fun. How are the dogs with them?
You know what?
I didn't even ask you about this.
Yeah, I was really nervous about that
because, and I know bulldogs are great with kids.
They're, the breed is known to be incredible with children,
but my boys are like, they're, and I tell you guys
all the time about how they fucking fight like crazy
and they're extremely meaty and they've been our children.
So Katrina and I as children for the last seven or eight years.
So you're worried they're gonna be jealous?
Yeah, so I was more worried about that.
When I first walked in the door, I mean, they were like all over me and wanting to smell
him aggressively and I had to kind of get him to calm down. After the first 24 hours and actually hearing him cry, which is that was kind of cool when
he first started crying was when the boys really changed their demeanor changed.
It went from being like this like doll looking thing that I was holding that almost like
a toy and they were like aggressively trying to get to it and see what's going on to when
he started crying and seeing Katrina kind of like hold him and sue them, then they were like real docile. Then they came up and they were like
really careful. They're realized. Yeah, they, yeah, it was pretty trippy. So, and I did
a little video clip of, I have one on this, I forget what they're called, I think it's
called a docking thing or whatever. it's from Taylor and Rachel bought it for
a lot of those.
It's not what you're thinking.
It's like a portable little mini bed for them.
He has, you know, it's got bumpers all the way around,
right, so it doesn't roll off your couch
or something like that.
Really cool little gift.
In any way, and he's been using it a lot.
So I have him on the couch sleeping next to me
and he's making his cute little sounds, you know, when there's some baby sounds when they're like sleeping
Yeah, it's all a little grunts. Yeah, and and Bentley hears it because Bentley is laying on the ground
And he kind of gets up and he walks over and he gets up and he puts his paws up in the couch and like gets his face like
Ride into his face, but he's being really gentle and Bentley is normally really aggressive like
You know if you if you lean down
and you ask for kisses from Bentley,
he like opens his mouth and like slams his teeth
into your face.
It's like, and look, people think he's
going to bite you.
He loves hard.
Yeah, he's just a, is there a big aggressive dog?
And he's the Justin of dogs.
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
That's, yeah, they definitely have very similar tastes.
Yeah, I'm coming in.
But he, uh, he's already changed the baby.
Once he started hearing the baby cry
and make these little noises,
now he gets up there and he's like,
real careful when he's close.
Now when you're watching this,
because dogs sense energy also,
I would feel conflicted because part of me
would see the dog come up and you'd be like,
on guard, like, what if he does something?
But you don't want your dog to feel that.
You're watching, like, real closely.
Yeah, because you don't want your dog to feel that energy
because it could make him anxious.
So I know that, and that's, and I know that I'm really
comfortable around infants and dogs, and so I've been the one
to do that.
I didn't want Katrina to, because she can get little anxious.
She was anxious with the dog.
She's still to this day, gets anxious when the dog
start fighting, and I always am trying to this day, gets anxious when the dog start fighting.
And I always am trying to remind her,
like, relax, their brothers.
They're neither one of them running to kill each other.
The worst is gonna happen is one's gonna bite the other one
and do a small blood, come out.
But that to her, just like,
oh my, that's crazy that you would allow that to happen.
I'm like, yeah, it's just different.
You know, it's like two boys wrestling in the living room
and scruffing and one of them gets cut or scratched.
You know, it's not a big deal.
So I've been kind of doing all the
introducing the dogs to the baby being there.
And you know, I stay close, right, just to be safe,
but I want them to feel that I feel comfortable and okay.
So you're just sitting back, chill?
Yeah, well, I mean originally what I would do is I'd actually be holding max
and I'd squat down all the way down in our deep squat
position.
And, and then I keep him held and I, I would call the boys over and I'd have him sit
and I'd pet him and tell him easy and let him smell him and as they're smelling him.
And at first, the first few times they're smelling him kind of aggressive and like shoving
their face in him and I would kind of push him back easy, easy and tell him easy.
Just like I would when you're teaching a dog to mouth instead of clamp down.
Like when dogs are puppies,
all intentionally, you intentionally shove
your fingers in their mouth and stuff like that,
and allow them to kind of bite on you,
but then tell them easy,
let them know to be easy when your fingers
and your hands are in their mouth.
So they've already been trained by me
on that a long time ago.
So same type, they've heard that from me before
of easy, easy,
gentle, you know, so when they're faces close to them. So that's what I've been doing with them.
And they did, they made the transition way faster than I thought. I was a little nervous because of
the jealousy thing going on, but they've been great. Although I'm dealing with something right now with
Mazi that I don't know what's going on with him. He's got something, it's a respiratory issue
because I can hear it in his breathing and he just doesn't even have the energy to...
You think maybe he's getting infection? Yeah, I think he does. And he's already got lung issues.
He's the one who, you know, we almost lost him last year or almost a year ago now. And we had to have
him overnight in oxygen and surgery and he barely lived and now he's going through something
I know and I'm just like,
I have enough on my fucking plate right now.
I'm trying to juggle now my fucking,
one of my dogs is having a hard time.
You're saying you're gonna be in today?
Yeah, I don't know.
As soon as we're done here, again, I'm rushing back
because Katrina's at the pediatrician right now,
so she's with them so I can get back and find out what's going on there.
Make sure she's getting some rest. She was up a lot last night and then make sure that I'm checking out for him.
So I'm all over the board.
Well, you know, dogs are, they view humans as they're part of their pack.
So I think if it's all done done properly they'll view the baby is like
Baby part of the pack like a puppy right away. Yeah, and dogs are can be incredibly protective over children Did you guys know what you guys obviously know what an American pit bull is right?
Amstaff is another version of a American pit bull a little bit different
Do you know what they used to be called at the turn of the century in the early 1900s?
You know what they used to be called at the turn of the century in the early 1900s?
Nanny dogs.
That was actually the-
Oh really?
Yeah, they would just like babysit.
Well, pit bulls got a bad rap later on,
you know, like in the 70s and 80s
when they started getting a bad rap
because they bred to fight.
Well, they were bred to fight initially,
but because then you had gang bangers and thugs and shit,
using them to fight and of course people with their,
you know, insecure, you know, people wanting to have a tough looking dog. And so they, you thugs and shit using them to fight and of course people with their insecure people wanting
to have a tough looking dog.
And so they treat them shitty
and so you'd have a crappy dog.
But pit bulls initially were revered.
They were nanny dogs.
So they were revered for being extremely good
with children, very protective.
And so what moms would do during this time is if they had to leave the baby
to go do something which was more commonplace than it is now. We don't really do that anymore.
But they would leave the dog with the baby and she knew nobody would fucking get near the baby
because the dog would let anybody get into the call them nanny dogs and they were exceptionally good
at watching over children. So I'm actually really excited because I think the boys will be like this.
I remember, what were we doing?
I'm trying to remember what it was,
but the first time that I'd seen this,
it's been happened multiple times now,
but the first time that I noticed that the boys were like that
for Katrina, extremely protective of her.
Like you can tell that in the family
that I've asserted myself as the alpha amongst the two dogs in myself
and our family.
And Katrina is the lover and the one that is there
to cuddle, to love, to if they're hurt or injured
and so they kind of have that bond in relationship with her.
And so anytime that we're out and like another dog
or anything like comes, it's crazy,
the way they stand, they mount up like in front of her.
It could be me, her, and then we're walking them.
They're not protecting you.
Yeah, they don't.
They don't get in front of me or don't seem to worry about it.
They stance in front of her and kind of block whatever in between, whatever threat is
around.
And that goes for other dogs,
or even like strange people that are walking by,
they don't recognize or they look suspicious.
The boys get all really.
That's great.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
When I was a kid, we had a pit bull.
I've always had pit bulls growing up.
When I was really young, my dad had a big one, a 95 pounder.
And my dad, he's to put me on his back and I'd hold on.
And he'd walk around real slow, so that I wouldn't fall off. So I'd be writing him like a little horse almost
You know, I need to kind of walk around real gentle and if I fell off he'd like slowly let me slide off and he was super good with us
It's really really cool. I find this stuff fast thing speaking of babies read an article on
About artificial wounds
What so yeah, so
about artificial wounds. What?
So yeah, so scientists, I gotta bring up this article.
I mean, like the matrix where they put you
in a little pod.
What?
Here's the quote from scientists while working on this,
that we will be growing babies in artificial wounds
within a decade.
What?
Yeah, so within 10 years.
Dude, that is insane.
So doctors at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
are in talks with the FDA to begin testing artificial wounds
on human embryos within the next two years.
And if they're successful,
then probably within 10 years.
And that's the 10 year plan.
The 10 year plan is to be able to have a baby outside
of the human body.
Dude, from a moral ethical perspective,
who's checking them on this?
Well, nobody.
Bro, how weird will that be if my girl can give the egg,
I can give the sperm, they can artificially create our kid,
feed him the most optimal food for nine months in this womb,
and then outcomes are kid.
But yet Katrina doesn't have to carry it.
Katrina doesn't have to feed.
Sounds good, right?
Sounds yes.
Too good to be true.
Well, it's actually 100%.
It sounds great and all that,
but this just highlights the,
God, what's the word that I want to use
when the people are,
with they think too much of themselves,
not conceded, but.
Narcissistic.
Not narcissistic. God complex, bro.
Just the, just, we have a tendency to think that we have,
we understand everything.
No, we know what we're doing.
This is great.
There's much more.
Air against.
The arrogance, thank you very much.
This highlights the biggest problems that humans have.
Always is our arrogance.
Humans are, we have a tendency to be so massively arrogant that we really think that if we solve the physical
problems with having a baby, like, oh no, it's going to have the warmth, the nutrients,
it'll have the bacteria, all this stuff.
It's going to have all the stuff that needs to grow, that's everything that the baby needs.
It's all the materials.
Yes, but they're not considering so many other factors
that they're just still learning about.
That happened, you know, inside the womb
with the mother involved.
There's a, there's a, and look,
I, you can, you don't need to have a baby
to have a tremendous bond with that baby.
Obviously, I'm a dad, I'm a man, I've never had a baby.
And there's people, there's children who've been adopted
and you have incredible bonds with the children.
But to say that there's nothing special,
aside from the fact that you just provide nutrients
in a home for this fetus or whatever,
that there's nothing aside from that,
is so arrogant it's insane to me.
And so the fact that we're gonna go ahead
and do this, try and do this in 10 years,
you know what's gonna end up happening,
is we're gonna one or two generations later
be like, oh shit, they're gonna be cold and like psychopaths.
May, I don't know.
That's my prediction.
Who knows?
Who knows, but it's really crazy.
And of course, it's gonna be popular,
because women are gonna be like, oh cool, I don't have to.
When you start taking humans out of the equation,
it becomes less human.
Oh, I mean, it's pretty common sense.
I don't know.
Man, it's weird.
Well, you gotta see where it sounds extremely appealing.
I mean, it sounds stupid.
Of course, I can sell the fuck out of it.
Yeah, I mean, and trust me,
especially after seeing Katrina go through the birthing process,
I mean, I think if most women, if you could say,
hey, listen, you can have that exact same kid,
everything that you, yeah, just you gotta go through
holding them, you gotta go through feeding them,
you know, they go through letting him come through with your first game away. You don't need no stretcher, you're in a rush or you're in a rush or you're in a rush. Yeah, just you get to go through holding them, you get to feed them, you know, to go through letting him come through. You don't know stretch the course. Yeah.
Yeah. Right now it changes all that stuff. Yeah, you're I could totally see the appeal and
you know what's gonna end up happening. I'm gonna call this right now so that people can
look back on this episode from 10 years. Yeah. And be like, he called time stamp this. I'm
gonna remember this. Anybody who opposes artificial wounds is going to be labeled anti-femin, anti-women.
Oh, well, of course you're going to say that you don't have the one that has to go through
the all the changes and all that.
It's going to be anti people who can't have kids, for example, two men getting married
or two, whatever, or it's going to be anti people who just can't have a kid because of
maybe some reproductive issues and a lot of stuff.
That's how they're gonna label it
so that people aren't gonna have a opposing opinion.
And I'm not a hundred percent opposed to it
because I can see situations where this may be
incredibly valuable.
I just think we need to take a step back and slow down.
That's really arrogant, you know what I'm saying?
Super arrogant of us to do that.
Just because you can doesn't always mean shit.
Yeah, who knows? That's the thing. Who knows what this is gonna look like?
10 years?
Yeah, in a decade.
10 years.
Bro, your kid will be 10 years old.
It's crazy.
And people will be having babies in the back.
I'll be the last like, yeah, natural stuff.
You know, the guy in the world.
It's crazy because when you watch something like the Matrix for the first time and you see that,
you're like, oh, that's crazy.
That'd be weird.
If it was really like that, it's like,
whoa, the fact that that could be reality
that we could actually start to have like.
It's like a factory, you know, you turn into,
it's almost like you watch like cars being built.
You know, that's like what like the human experience
is. Well, think about it.
God, from a sci-fi, like conspiracy theory standpoint,
you imagine that like people like the some corporation or
Courses can be a corporation to make a shit that they have control over all these babies that are growing
Yes, dude, and they're like okay, what we're gonna slightly know is gonna know this
We're gonna slightly modify a program them a little bit just a little bit so when we play certain type of music
They all become soldiers
Yeah, like come on you whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Like, come on, you idiots, of course.
Or it could be even more subtle.
You guys watch way too much, I'm fine.
Dude, they put it, I'm telling you,
they're throwing all the red flags out there.
Like, hey, you might want to consider this.
You might want to consider it,
because there are like evil people that still exist
that you know, are controlling buttons.
Bro, it could be even more subtle.
It could be like, they'll slightly tweak them
just enough to prefer the toilet paper that we make.
You know what I'm saying?
We got all the things.
Okay, now I can get on board with that
because that's a super subtle, right?
Right, exactly.
What we've proven already is,
everything's about money, right?
It's always about that.
I think there's more likely, instead of someone trying to create
soldiers for world domination.
I go down the rabbit's hole.
And somebody's going like,
hey, we could do this and like,
fucking make another business off of it.
And these people all be garr-
Like that's, I see that.
I'm sure.
Everybody has the same like foot size
so they have like uniform shoes.
It's the same thing I feel about being spied on
on in Instagram and Facebook and Twitter.
All these things that allow access to all of our
personal stuff.
It's like, I'm not one of those conspiracy people that get freaked out.
Like, oh my god, they're tracking everything.
And they have this conspiracy of doing something awful to us, or they're God-R.
All they want to know is so they can sell me shit.
That's what they, it's all about money, dude.
That's what they really want to know all the shit I'm doing.
Not because they give a fuck about what I'm doing all day long,
because they want to know my buying habits.
So that's what the company does,
but then when you get an evil government
that gets access to that, it becomes a mess.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
But you know what, here's the thing,
when you start to separate the baby from the host,
from the mother, and now it's becoming kind of like
a product almost, the next, the next,
the next, yeah, the sci-fi,
to stay right here, it's all the, the next, the sci-fi,
the next step, which isn't a big leap from that point,
is to say this, is to make this argument,
hey look, we have the science to ensure
that your child gets the best of both of your genetics.
That we're gonna take, no, it's still your genes,
dad and mom, it's still your guys' genes,
but we're gonna take all the lead, all the shit,
and we're gonna give you all the good stuff.
Yeah, we're gonna take all your sperms,
we're gonna take all of her eggs or eggs,
and we're gonna look at that,
and we're gonna just make sure that he gets the sheer,
heer sheer, whichever you choose,
by the way, you choose the sex, okay?
We're gonna pick the best of your genes,
which means they're more likely to be taller,
smarter, better looking, healthier, and faster.
And if you oppose that, what a bad person you are.
Why would you want to have a person?
I would give your kid all these conditions.
Totally, totally.
It's the next step.
And again, that's just, it's a hard argument to fight.
This is completely the opposite.
So being like from the past, I was watching this documentary.
It was very fascinating.
They just found a 13,000 year old female, like 15 year old female skeleton in Mexico in
the cenotes. Wow. And this is a big deal because I believe that it predates what they've
found before with humans being here in the Americas.
And what they've concluded from, because the thing was with the American Indians, they
weren't able to trace them back to all the rest of the humans.
The genes were a little different.
So I guess there was this land mass.
It was in the, you know, the barring straight.
It was like an actual landmass there
that was even bigger off of like Russia and it was like called barringia, I believe. And
so they apparently like, like some tribes, like came there earlier in the Anderthal to where
they created this, this race of people that now they're tracing back that has a lineage from
this one skeleton, like proved all this stuff.
Wow.
So it's a completely, is this a new race
that they've been able to trace back
because of this finding?
So you know that there were Neanderthals,
there were like modern humans,
there were like didn't sovians or something like that.
So all those like they all made it,
you know, and created this race of people
like on this mass and then the ice age, and then the ice age allowed them to cross over
into this content.
So much stuff we don't know.
Yeah, I mean, it's so nice.
Like how crazy is this?
A lot of people, if you test their DNA,
you find Neanderthal DNA,
because we obviously made it with this other species
of this other type of, you know, this
other type of humans or whatever that was different, but then for whatever reason they died
out.
Either we killed them all or we just did better than they did or whatever, but we were banging
them.
Yes.
But it's crazy because you know about like in the cenotes there, it's like it's a really
vast like system of caves and it's all underwater and everything.
And so they're getting further in
and they're finding like all these like cool animals
and things they've never found before.
And just because, you know, before that,
they speculate that the climate was different.
So basically the oceans were back further
so it allowed more land.
And so within these are mainly caves before,
but now they're flooded.
So like, did they have to go underwater to find this?
Yeah, they had to go way underwater
because I guess back then they speculate that
you had to like, I mean, it was trying to find water
was tough so they would go through these caves
to find water and so they would go way
into these cave system and then find water
And so it was dangerous because a lot of predators would then there and so is there a guide?
Is there a guesstimation on how much how much water we had on earth back then compared to it?
It wasn't that we had more oh liquid water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because yeah during the ice age a lot of it's frozen and so pulled it up
Yeah, so you know when you have like, you ever put ice cubes in water,
and the ice cubes melt in the water level
goes up a little bit.
It just takes up more space.
But no, that's a good question.
I'm sure we could probably look that up.
And that's why with, you know what they say,
well, if the climate warms, sea levels will rise
because you'll start to melt, you know,
all the ice or whatever.
But you know what's interesting,
I just read along those lines,
did you know that plants are growing at a faster, or have been growing at faster and faster rates for
the last few decades, kind of like a side effect of the carbon monoxide we're putting in
there. So because we're burning all these fossil fuels, plants are thriving, because that's
what they breathe, that's what they eat, right? So plants are just flourishing all over
the place faster. It's amazing. It's amazing. It right yeah, so plants are just flourishing all over the place faster
It's amazing. I was thinking I would think it just kind of works itself out. It's weird. They're getting bigger
It's yes. It's really really weird right super super cool. Anyway last night. I went to the movies
I went back to that that place in
Where's it will what is the prune yard? Yeah, yeah. Where you sit down and you eat dinner there, whatever.
Which by the way, dinner in a movie.
Can I just say something right now?
I've been doing that.
Remember I told you guys a few podcasts ago
that Bismuth, which is found in petpo, Bismol,
helps break down biofilms of bacteria.
And I've been doing that and taking antimicrobials
because I tend to have bacterial overgrowth in my gut.
That's what bothers my gut.
And I've kind of figured it out.
So I've been taking that and it's really made my gut
super healthy.
So of course, what do I do?
I go last nine eight, a fucking hot dog.
Two things of French fries and talk to us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't go for it.
But you know what though?
It didn't bother my gut, but you know what's funny?
I tied how I eat so closely to my gut health.
That one my gut's healthy,
it's like there's nothing left
and then I go too far in the other direction.
And it reminds me of when people
tie their nutrition so hard to having to look a certain way
for like a contest and then going off.
So I was really aware of that psychological phenomenon.
But anyway, I go to the movies and I watch Rocketman.
You guys need to fucking watch that.
Yeah, that was the Eln John sort of a story. Yeah, that was the Ellen John sort of a story.
Dude, it was, yes, it is a musical,
but I like it.
Ellen John's music, though.
Bro, Ellen John is one of the greatest musicians of all time.
I did not know this at the peak of his popularity.
Did you guys know that his record sales
accounted for 5% of all record sales in the world at one point.
Holy shit.
That's how much he was selling at one point.
He was the richest, wealthiest musician and performer at one point.
I didn't know that.
At like 25 or 26 years old.
I didn't know that.
Yes.
Wow.
5% of all record sales.
He was one of them in the world.
In the world.
That's crazy.
He was one of the first artists to sell out
stadiums pat like like months in advance stadiums and you go out there and perform and was just
Blues people's minds, but this particular movie was produced by Elton John
So this was actually him approving of like what was in there and whatever. Huh?
He's done really really really, really well.
Really, really well.
You guys gotta watch it.
It's like one of those, you're watching movies,
you get like the chills, like several times
throughout the movie.
It was one of those movies.
Oh wow.
It was fucking phenomenal.
I didn't even know that was in theater right now.
It's super, it got 97 on Rotten Tomatoes.
Oh shit.
I still haven't watched the one about clean.
That was really good.
Oh that's really good.
Actually I thought I thought it was really good. I thought Rocky Man was better believing in it. Oh wow, I still haven't watched the one about Queen. That was really good. Oh, that's really good. Actually, I thought I thought it was really good.
I thought Rock and Man was better believing in it.
Oh, wow, that good.
I thought it was good.
Cause I really like Bohemian rap city.
That was really good.
We watched that maybe a month or two ago
and I didn't see it in theater.
And I didn't have that much of a desire to watch it.
But after watching it, I told everybody, go watch that.
I didn't know with Queen story.
No, I didn't know that.
Elton John had suffered a little bit from stage fright
and anxiety a little bit.
Did you guys know that?
Being a really such an incredible performer, right?
Was that why he put the huge glasses to hide?
I know sometimes some people have done that
where they get costumes that are crazy to deflect.
Well, so I think it was Jordan Harbinger talked about
somebody on his show that said that
you can create a persona or something or do something like put a hat on or put glasses on,
switch into a different person and then all of a sudden become whatever cares matter.
I've heard that from a lot of performers. And we've met YouTube stars like that, right?
They seem super charismatic and outgoing and then you meet them in person. They're
super shy Michael Jackson. Yep. You know, is a famous example of that.
Super shy, whatever, get him on stage and what a,
so Elton John, that's not his real name.
He changed it to Elton John.
And I think that might have been part of his,
like, becoming his persona.
His persona.
But his first big performance in LA was at,
what's it called, the Tribidor?
I think it was a Tribidor.
Yeah, that famous kind of bar or whatever.
And he almost didn't go out.
You don't want to go out and they had to kind of force him
to go out, but then as soon as he started playing,
he turned into, you know, Elton John or whatever,
and did his thing.
So, yeah, super, super good.
Anyway.
That's cool.
Another study on, did you guys see,
maybe you saw it just, and we were getting tagged,
the study on soda and juice.
Did I see that?
I don't know if I read that one.
Drinking a glass of sugary liquid,
so whether it's soda or juice,
that's what was different about the study,
is it didn't just say it was soda,
they actually also connected it to fruit juice.
Drinking a glass a day, according to the study,
and they're gonna look deeper into it,
raised cancer rates by almost 20%.
Whoa.
It was 18% I think.
What's the concentration of sugar?
Like what was the amount that the...
Typically a juice or ore.
A glass of juice?
30 grams of sugar.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
That's what makes it so, that's what's funny
is that we demonized soda.
Like we would come that far, right?
But then juice is so okay, and I always see like,
there's a lot of people that still think it's a health.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I see kids all the time sucking down
all the different fruit juices, and I'm like,
man, you may as well give the kid a,
you had him sucking down, if you had a straw and a soda can,
people would freak out, right?
If you saw a little game,
give him a juice.
Yeah, but you give him a juice, and it's totally normal,
but it's like they're really not that far off
from each other.
No, the squee, you know, being able to fit,
I don't know how, however many grapes worth of juice
into a small container, that's a lot of,
you wouldn't eat that many grapes if you were a kid.
Yeah, if you ever, you guys have juiced fruit before, right?
Like, if you've ever done like a juicer,
how many oranges does it take to make glass?
To make a glass of like squeezed juice,
like you, a whole apple, you know,
but half a pound of grapes,
like that makes like one little glass of juice.
It's crazy.
Plus all the pulp and everything else.
That's actually one of the,
the first time I bought one,
I think it was the Jack,
isn't Jack Lillain have a juicer right?
Yeah, I bought the Jack Lillain juicer
when I was a trainer like,
I don't know, fuck, 10 plus years ago.
I was including the juicing.
And yeah, I did.
I got on this juicing kick for a while.
And it blew my mind how much fruit.
I mean, it was too expensive.
I'm like, this is crazy.
Like for me to make a glass of juice,
I'd have to go through like four pieces of full fruit
just to make this little glass of juice.
I thought, whoa, that's crazy.
It'd be like eating four pieces of fruit,
but you're minus the fiber, minus the whole amount. Yeah,'d be like eating four pieces of fruit, but you minus the fiber, minus the,
the most beneficial parts of eating fruit
is getting all the fiber skin
and everything that you're eating when you eat.
It's so typical, right?
We look at something and we think,
let's take out the tastiest part
and throw the rest away.
Yeah, concentrate the fuck at it.
And then tell people that it's like so much better.
Now, I would assume that,
and I don't know if they did this in the study,
I would assume that if they start to do the controls, because here's the thing with sugar, in the context
of a low calorie diet and health, it doesn't seem to have tons of negative effects.
But lots of sugar in the context of eating a lot of calories, high inflammatory state, then
it starts to become a problem. And so I would assume that people who drink a glass of juice every day or a soda every
day, nowadays, especially the soda, probably not healthy.
You know what I mean?
You're not talking about like fitness and health fanatics who are having a glass of,
all right, you know, of soda every single day.
So it's a association of bad patterns and bad habits.
It's just context matters, you know, like same thing with cholesterol. of soda every single day. So the association of bad patterns and bad habits
can go with it.
Context matters.
You know, like same thing with cholesterol,
having eating a lot of cholesterol in the context
of having a lot of inflammation,
maybe not a good thing, but in the context of being healthy.
You know, we always talk about that.
And I talk a lot about the steps and how little,
maybe Doug, you could look up.
I'm curious over the last two or three decades,
if we have averages of what,
the average humans movement over the last two
or three decades and what rate it's decreasing at.
Because what we moved today in comparison
to what we did just 10 years ago,
and just in my lifetime, I've seen such a crazy difference.
So, it'd be interesting to see what that looks like
over the last 30 to 50 years on how little it just we don't have to go physically do the same things that we had
to do just a decade or two ago. It's and you don't think about it because we're as busy or
busier or should I say distracted more today than we ever have been. So the human mind doesn't
really process like oh also where this we're lazy humans. And the human mind doesn't really process like, oh, also, and we're this
we're lazy humans. And you're still getting tired. Exactly. Exactly. We're still you're
still getting shit done. You know, it's just a lot of it's done virtually. It's done
sitting down. It's done through a computer. And so it's interesting to speculate on Matt
are will we keep continuing going down this path? And can we look back over the last 30,
50 years and see is there been a consistent
decline in movement and based off of that where will we be in another ten years?
Yeah, I bet you if for every great breakthrough
in technology you see dramatic decline like the like the automobile was invented decline in activity
You know the the television was invented,
and it's adoption started across America, boom,
decline in activity, and then now computers,
technology phones, that kind of stuff,
probably continues to go down.
We're gonna be like a wally,
where we're all floating around and whatever.
Rascal skaters.
Another good article that I read that I want to bring up.
There was a study done on testosterone boosters,
which was pretty cool.
So here's what's cool about the study.
So rather than taking a specific herb or plant to test whether or not it raises testosterone or not,
what researchers did is they emulated a typical person searching for testosterone booster online.
So they Googled testosterone booster,
and then they analyzed the top 50 supplements
that came up, and here's what they found.
Less than a quarter, I think it was something like 15%
of the testosterone supplements had any data at all
that supported their claims.
So the vast majority of testosterone boosters
had zero data to support any of their claims
about raising testosterone. Some of them contain doses of vitamins and minerals that were even higher
than the tolerable limit. So some of them, they're like, I shouldn't be taking these. 10% of the
supplements included ingredients with data, real data that suggests that there's a negative effect on testosterone.
Go figure.
How funny is that?
So at the end of the study, they're like,
yeah, testosterone boosters big waste of money.
One of the biggest waste of money
you can find when it comes to testosterone.
Well, especially when you're someone,
because that's the thing I didn't get as a kid,
because again, I got, I was marking it too well,
just like I know you guys were.
I took all those, you know, test one, you know,
over the calendar.
During the ages, your testosterone's like, you tired.
That's what I'm saying.
Like when it's at its peak anyways, like,
even if I did get a hold of one that might actually help
a little bit, it wouldn't help me at 17 to 20 years,
25 years old, you know, it would probably help somebody
who's 55 to 60 and you give them
and they might feel a little bit of a difference from it. So it's funny. That's I only saw
when I was talking about, you know, homeboy the other day that posted all his his supplements
that he was taking and the testosterone booster one had to been like the most comical with
like bro, you're taking a gram of testosterone synthetically dude, your testosterone boosters
are not doing anything for you.
In fact, they might be like,
you're just to your point.
What you said, it might be fucking hindering it.
Totally.
There is one.
Now, of course, some testosterone boosters
have been shown to work on men with low testosterone.
So different category.
So if you have average testosterone,
probably not gonna help you,
Ashwaganda is one of the only supplements
that may actually temporarily raise testosterone
in men who are even healthy.
Really?
Yeah, and I think, I'm not quite sure how works
I've been doing a lot of reading on it,
but that might be the one that's got right now
the most promise based on data.
But even then, here's the thing,
like you boost your testosterone 15%,
probably not going to notice anything.
It sounds like a lot 15%, but it's not, you might not need to.
I mean, I think that those type of numbers could be affected
as much or more by a good night's rest.
More. Right. Oh my gosh.
I mean, so you're thinking about people are out there searching and researching
all the greatest testosterone booster that you could take over the counter. You rub this deer piss
off. Meanwhile, you know, how many people do you guys know other than probably listen to
mind pump, but how many people do you know that actually put a practice in every night to make sure
that they enhance their sleep? Like, and that's free. You know, you don't gonna pay anything,
you don't wanna take anything, you know,
maybe instead of being on your,
staring at your phone and your bed till midnight
and then trying to roll over.
And that will raise it big time,
raise it to stuff like that.
Right, right, right.
Maybe just put a little effort into,
hey, let's try this for one month.
I'm gonna discipline myself to go to bed at the same time
to, you know, maybe shut down my eating two hours before I even go to bed, pay attention to the light, pay
attention to my phone, like try doing that and see if you notice a difference.
Yeah, you know, when I would train clients every once in a while, I'd have a male client
that would come in and, you know, when you talk to your client, you do the first initial
assessment and you ask them, you know, have you been to a doctor or whatever. And every
once in a while, I get a guy who'd be like,
yeah, I just had a physical.
And so I'd ask them, if you don't mind,
would you mind if we looked at your,
if I looked at some of the blood markers or whatever.
And I had probably in my whole career,
I don't know, around 10 male clients
who would get their testosterone levels checked,
and then they checked their testosterone again a year later
or six months later, and it was not uncommon
to see testosterone levels sometimes double in these men.
And all we did was start lifting weights,
change our diet, get better sleep.
That's it, and these guys would go from having
testosterone levels that were in the lower range
to the higher range, And it was like clockwork.
Just being dialed in. You know, yet all those factors working for you still against you.
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First question is from Dan R-Lang.
How do you put maximum load on the muscles
and minimum load on the joints when exercising?
Resistance training as an example.
Oh, cool question actually.
Yeah, that's a cool question.
Yeah, you know, he's really good at this.
If you wanna watch the lifters who are really
make a lot of effort, not always,
but the good ones, bodybuilders.
Biblical scale.
Yeah, this has been packed as well.
Ben is like, this is what he's known for.
Totally.
The squeeze.
Yeah, you know, I noticed this myself.
So over the last couple of weeks,
one of my favorite ways to lift weights
is to lift really heavy and to go with low reps,
usually around five repetitions.
I just respond well to it.
I love it. It's fun. it's my favorite way to work out.
But I also notice as I've gotten older,
I can't stay in that phase quite as long as I used to.
And what I start to notice is the insertions
of my muscles start to get really sore.
And then my joints start to get a little bit stiff and achy.
And so I would say the best way to avoid joint pain
and maximal and then maximize load on the muscles
would be the opposite of that.
To go lighter, but to concentrate on your form and technique
and to make the muscle do more of the work.
That's gonna keep your joints healthier
and still give you that hypertrophy effect on muscle.
A generic answer would be to really truly try and run a program or run a phase of training
where you are truly sticking to a like four to two type of protocol. I mean, I explain that
for people who might not know. And I like to talk about this when I used to train clients.
It used to be one of my favorite things
to teach someone right away
because I remember when I first started doing all my reading
on like, okay, building muscle and the best rep range,
the best tempos and where you should kind of be at.
And we know now that the most ideal way to build muscle, and we've talked about this
before, in a short controlled six week study would be like, okay, following a hypertrophy
type of protocol, and a hypertrophy protocol would be that 8 to 12 rep range, and following
like a 4 to 2 tempo, which is taking the negative for four seconds, so lowering the weight down, whatever exercise you're doing
for four seconds, then a two second pause,
an isolation pause at the bottom of the rep,
and then a two second positive,
so as you push up or stand up
or whatever movement that we're doing.
And I remember learning that,
and then I remember like going to the gym and actually like kind of counting
in my head and falling that and going like,
whoa, I've never felt like an eternity.
Yeah, it feels way long, and then you look around the gym
just for a minute and look at all the people
that are lifting around you and just for shits
and giggles do this.
Just kind of watch everybody's negative and count
and tell me how many people you actually spot that
do a true four second negative, it's rare.
The most common is like two, maybe three somebody who's training.
If you saw someone training slow, it's probably three seconds.
It requires way more patience.
And it requires that you lighten the load.
Yeah, and that's just why you don't see it very often is because we all ego lift, all of us do.
Man and women, women are less likely,
so I see this better with some of my female clients.
I was able to teach this to my women
because my women aren't as would not be as kind of
more receptive to.
Well, they don't give a shit if I tell them,
I hand them five pound dumbbells.
They don't give a shit if that I put,
you know, a 30, you know, no weight on the bar.
Yeah, right.
Try taking a teenage boy or a grown man and saying,
Kravit hand in them 10 pound dumbbells
and telling them to slow down his curling process.
Like, yeah, you know, I'm saying he doesn't want to look
like so guys are harder to teach us,
but the thing is we'll probably benefit the most
that you do this.
Oh, the benefits of really emphasizing
that eccentric contraction, which, you know,
like that in itself is like such an impactful focus.
If you can get somebody to kind of like work
on training just like controlling that process better
in the eccentric part of the lift,
you know, get massive benefit.
Plus it breaks down the muscle quite a bit.
Not to mention, there's nothing that is,
that's the worst studies say is most optimal.
There's nothing that says you can't do a five-second negative.
Like you really want to,
so I'll use a train client to go,
I would be slower, slower, slow, I mean,
I would be constantly telling them to go slower and slower
because what that does for me too is a trainer
is one, I can lighten the loads, there's less risk there.
Two, I can really make adjustments
to their body positioning as
they're going through a rep when I'm asking them to really slow it down for four or five
seconds on a negative.
And then talk about keeping the load and the stress off the joints and able to keep the
tension in the muscle.
This is one of the best ways that you can do that is to really discipline yourself to slow
down.
Another good point, the time under tension, which is something I know a lot of bodybuilders
highlight more so than your strength athletes.
It's like, it does provide that when you slow down the tempo,
you can really focus on really contracting
and radiating this contraction throughout your body
and maximizing that squeeze of the muscle,
that time length increases when you focus on it.
Well, especially when you're somebody who is trying to sculpt the body, which I would say is probably,
I don't know, what you guys guessed, 80% of the people inside the gym.
It takes most people.
Most people go to the gym because they want to change the way they look or improve the
way they look somehow.
So if you're somebody who is chasing aesthetics, this is extremely important.
Do you have more longevity training.
Well, I used to, I used to love being the guy
who was super ripped and jacked in the gym
and then I would be lifting next to some
got meadhead guy that was rip and heavyweight.
I'd be doing real lightweight right next to him,
but controlled in like perfect form.
That's me ever since Instagram.
Yeah.
Nice to think I was strong and then you start looking around.
Okay, that's right.
Well, I'm going diaper,
the joke that I used to say and my trainers, they would tease me instead of that, I was
like, yeah, man, I'm all show no go.
I just want to look fast when I take my shirt off.
I don't need to perform at that level.
I don't need to be the baddest dude in the gym lifting the most weight.
I tell you what, that's when I felt the best.
No aches and pains.
I didn't really start to get a lot of aches and pains in my joint
until I started really stretching the limits as far as how heavy I was living. Now mind you,
I also gained some of the most muscle during those times of lifting the one to three or even five
rep range, really low rep range and going for maximal load. I definitely put on a packed on muscle,
but I felt the best when I was training
like slow control tempo and eight to 12 reps.
And there's another part here too
that I think we should cover, which is,
you know, are your joints moving in the optimal way?
Because you can go four to two tempo,
but if you have poor mobility,
if the ligaments of your joints are supporting you rather than your muscle,
if you're moving in a way that's not optimal,
lightweight, low resistance can still cause lots of problems
in your joints.
If your knees are to exaggerate,
if they're caving in as you're doing a squat,
there's gonna be a lot of tension being placed on the inside of the
knee, on the ligaments that keep your knee from folding in half sideways. And so you could go bodyweight
squats. You could do bodyweight squats and do them slow and do all that stuff, but just because you
have poor mobility, you can find that your joints start to bother you. And so, and this is something
you should focus on if you are a strength athlete.
Like if you're somebody's like, look, I train heavy
because I compete or maybe you just love it so much,
you wanna do it as long as possible.
You want to make sure that you're moving optimally
and moving well, because then you have
much longer shelf life.
Then you can handle heavy weights
for longer, longer periods of time
because you're just moving really, really, really well.
I mean, part of the reason why my joints will start
to bother me now, yes, I'm using heavy weight,
but I'm sure that I'm not perfect.
I'm sure my form is an absolutely perfect.
Well, this is what probably wouldn't bother me.
This is what happens when you do,
that is the drawback of training for maximal load, right?
And training for strength is, it's a new adaptation.
I'm not trying to isolate a muscle and develop a muscle.
I'm trying to get the most weight up,
which has incredible benefits,
especially when we talk about central nervous system,
like incredible, but the desired outcome is different.
It's how much can I get my entire body to work together
to get this load up off the ground
versus training
more hypertrophy or bodybuilder like which is how I like to train for majority of my career,
which is when I do this exercise, I care less about how much I'm getting on the ground. I want
to feel it right here. And so I'm controlled and focused in an area. And the benefits of that
is it tends to take a lot of the load and stress off of all my joints and ligaments
and focus it all right on the muscle.
Well, if you're not moving well,
let's say you're, let's say 100% represents
excellent, perfect optimized joint movement.
And let's say you're moving at 97%.
So just 3% off, you're at 97%.
Will squatting 300 pounds be worse for you
than squatting 100 pounds? Yeah, yeah, that 3% off
means a lot more when you're not moving yeah, it exponentially
well, you exponentially a good example that we used to do with this is like it take like a you know
Like a 50 pound dumbbell and hold it into your stomach and stand up tall and straight and then slightly just kind of stand with
Bad Posh just a little bit and then extend the weight out by four inches
from you and notice the stress.
You ride away, feel on your low back
versus when it's in close tight to you and standing up, right?
Just be your posture.
But slide a shift, slide as big.
You get that like dead lifting for me,
like I was like, oh my God,
just barely even shifted left to right.
It was a done deal.
Right.
Next question from Rebecca 8,
mobility and priming movement seem pretty similar.
What are the differences between them, if any?
Great question.
Great question.
So mobility, think of mobility as an umbrella term
that covers, there's a lot of things
that can contribute to mobility.
So mobility is the ultimate optimum thing that you're looking for.
And what mobility basically means is your ability to move through full ranges of motion
with total control.
That's all it is.
So I'm able to express my knee joint from full extension to full flexion with good control, good strength, good stability.
I'm able to flex and extend and rotate my spine with good control, good strength and good
stability and pain free.
And pain free.
That's what mobility is.
There's nothing passive about it.
Now, what contributes to improved mobility?
Oh gosh, I can improve my flexibility and that might help my mobility.
If that's a limiting factor, I can improve my strength and that'll improve my mobility
oftentimes. So many times people think getting stronger doesn't improve mobility. That's
complete bullshit. If you get strong properly, you'll definitely get more mobile as a result.
My connection, my ability to connect to certain things,
my movement patterns that are unconscious,
like all these things contribute to mobility.
Now, when we talk about priming,
we're talking specifically about doing particular movements
before you do other movements to make you move better
and perform better.
That's what it literally means.
So if I'm gonna go do a sprint,
and I know my body, there may be certain prining movements that I can do that are going to make me sprint
better, faster, and safer. Okay, if that makes any sense. So it's almost like I'm trying
to create a or or in reinforce a better movement pattern before I go do this, this tough exertion.
What's the most optimal sequence?
In that movement, that's going to aid in better performance.
Sometimes you know a limiting factor going in, especially one of these compound lifts,
where your knees are going to cave in.
That's something that you want to address in your priming session to get other muscles to fire
to stabilize your hips better, to stabilize your knees,
to stabilize your ankles.
So you think about these things ahead of time
with that mentality of what's gonna keep my body
support, my joint supported in the most optimal way.
Right, and the thing about mobility
that's really interesting is that it requires a balance of a lot of different things. I'll give you an example. So when I say,
you know, I'm going to make you more flexible. Most people would would hear that and think,
oh, that's going to improve my mobility. Not really. Not necessarily. If I had somebody
that was that hype had hyper flexibility and was, and I've had clients like this,
it's not common, but they do exist.
I've had one person in particular I can think about.
It's more common than you think.
Almost everybody that I've trained, which I'm sure you guys have trained the same thing,
that were like your hardcore yogis that have never strained trained, but then want to
get into strength training, that they're whole life.
They're like, all I've really done is yoga, that's yoga's been dancers.
Yeah, that yoga, exactly.
So, like a gymnast who that's all they've done
and like that where they've all done,
that gymnast, not so much.
Gymnast, you a lot of strength.
Right, yeah, I want to.
Sometimes you'll get dancers who are hyper flexible
in certain directions.
I had one lady that came in,
who was just, her joints were just lax.
Like, she would fold right in half to do a hamstring.
She could sit in the splits.
She'd sit in 90, 90, could fold back, fold forward,
but she had no strength.
And as a result of that, her joints had all this crazy
loose range of motion without lots of strength supporting it.
And if I didn't know any better,
and she says to me, oh, my hips hurt, I might
be like, well, we need to stretch. Let's stretch your hips out. And she's like, well, I'm
really flexible. That's okay. Increase the toxic. What she needs.
Well, you know what they get far worse? You know, they would look like they would look
like the same thing that when I have taken like a long break off of exercising and then
I go back. You guys ever noticed like when you do like the bench press for the first time
and you haven't done it a long time and your arms are shaking.
It feels like they're laughing.
Yeah, and it's not a weight that you can't lift.
It's definitely a weight that you're strong enough to lift it, but then you're shaking all over the place.
That's because they haven't trained their central nervous system to carry load through that range of motion that they have created through stretching,
that makes them weak and unstable.
So you take someone that super flexible motion that they have created through stretching, that makes them weak and unstable. So, you take someone that's super flexible like that, you add a little bit of a load to
that person who's never trained their body to carry load to that except for their body
weight and you add load to that and, yeah, injury can occur.
And the reason why I'm communicating this is so that people understand what mobility
means because I think a lot of people will see someone who's hyper flexible, with poor strength
and say that they have a lot of great,
they have lots and lots of mobility.
No, mobility, think of it this way,
the word mobile, move, you're moving.
So your ability to move through full range of motion
with total control, without pain, without risk of injury,
that's what mobility is.
Someone with tons and tons of flexibility
without strength is not mobile, they're just flexible.
It's just why it's important to understand
that it's this umbrella term.
What about if I took somebody who had lots and lots
and lots of strength,
but terrible range of motion,
increasing their strength further
would decrease their mobility.
It would actually, it could potentially cause more problems,
like putting a bigger engine on a car
that is a little bit unstable.
Yeah, and I just look at, like,
especially with priming in terms of like,
being able to create and internalize that support system.
So I have to create, you know,
a density with my muscles, you know, going through that,
that movement. And so that way, now I'm basically mimicking
that movement, but I'm, I'm creating the amount of forces
going to take to be able to, you know, safely and
controllably, you know, handle this load that I'm about to do.
And so it's like I'm, I'm prepping my mind. My mind is also
like prepping my muscles. It's prepping my mind my mind is also like prepping my muscles
It's prepping my joints is prepping, you know, ligaments like everything is is active through that movement you guys ever watch
Singers before they go out on stage and sing when they're in the back you ever seen videos of them doing like all their sound stuff
Yeah, we're they're doing the like I oh yeah, I'm moving their math around
Yeah, all the muscles primed that's an they're doing the like, ay, ay, ay, I, I, I, I, I, I'm moving their math around. Yeah, okay.
All the muscles primed.
That's an example of priming.
Right.
And priming is training your mind as much,
it's more, it's actually training your mind more
than it's training your muscles is teaching you,
it's getting you set up to move and do things
in the right way.
That's why you don't want to go right into something cold.
That's what warming up has always had value.
It's because without people realizing it,
they're warming up, they're doing some level of priming.
Now here's the thing with priming.
You can make it very specific to yourself,
which then makes it far effective.
Far more effective.
Like I could take a singer and just have them
stretch their mouth out.
That'll be better than doing nothing, but
they have specific exercises that they've identified for themselves that are going to make
them initiate and project their voices better than if they went in cold and it was specific
to them. Same thing with your own body. It's a map's prime does this. Map's prime has
got to test in there that you take and then you can identify for your own body what would be a good priming sequence before you work out based on the way you move, and then
when it ends up happening is when you do proper priming, you temporarily increase your mobility.
Now, this is not a, you know, I know I said temporarily so people are like, well, what's the use?
Well, here's the use. If I can temporarily improve your mobility before you work out, then when you work out, guess
what you're doing?
You're strengthening better mobility.
Now that temporary mobility is more likely to become permanent mobility.
This is the value in priming.
Priming gets you to move better so that when you work out, that workout is far more effective.
So priming contributes to mobility.
But mobility is the umbrella term,
and there's lots of things you can do
to improve your mobility.
Next question is from DadboddRoll.
What are the benefits of the Turkish get up,
and where can they be plugged into a program?
Remember when we, Jordan, Jordan Shaman, my boy,
always talks shit.
I love it, dude.
Yeah, you get to have some things that's funny.
I love the Turkish kid up there.
There's not a lot of single moves that just really turn on the whole body.
Yeah, turn on all the things that are just so, like just, don't get me wrong, squat is
king, right?
We talk about the squat is king for a lot of reasons
when it comes to CNS, overall muscle building,
one of the most functional movements you can do,
but I don't know, man, the Turkish get up
when you talk about the anti-rotational movements
in there, anti-rotational stuff out there,
there's you move in different planes while you do it,
you get some of the same benefits that you get
from a squatting, squatting, like unilateral stuff. I mean, there's so many things in that movement.
I think it's, the movement itself is all about intention and it brings you back to that mentality
going into exercises in general because the value of it is, it's, it's learning, you know, where
you are in space. It's that proprioceptive ability to react,
but also control your body through each incremental part of that movement. It's a complex movement.
It's something that you really have to value as I am trying to really go through this slowly
understand all the compensations and things that you have to fight
through that process.
And I think it's a good way to reconnect to your body
and teach your body and command your body.
Now to that point, Justin,
and we did a really good,
oh, we weren't very good back then,
but we did a Turkish get up video a long time ago.
I was hoping you'd put that. Yeah, on the YouTube.
But it's a good, it is good though.
What you did a really good job of breaking down
the each segment of the Turkish get up.
And so I think it's important that you understand
just doing, it's just like a person who squats
with incredible mechanics versus somebody who's just squats
and they're all over.
You gotta do it right.
You gotta do it right to get these crazy benefits
we're talking about.
So just to, the guys from Mind Pumps say Turkish get ups
are amazing for me.
I'm gonna start doing them.
And then you do them and you do them kind of half-ass
or you don't even realize that you're doing them half-ass.
You're just getting through them
and you're just progressing away.
Then it loses a lot of its value.
But if you can segment the movement
and in the YouTube video, Justin does a good job of breaking,
I want to say it's like eight parts, right?
It was eight.
It was at least, yeah.
It's like eight parts for the entire full movement.
And so if you break it up in those eight parts
and make sure that you are taking those eight parts
through its fullest, most controlled range of motion
and practicing that, man, the benefits and carryover of getting really good at Turkish
get up is amazing.
And so I know I were selling it right now.
We're not talking about what the person's asking
and how to program it.
Yeah, well, okay.
So, well, that's the benefits of it.
And, you know, people who think who say a Turkish get up
is useless or worthless or stupid.
And, you know, and some of these people are good friends of ours.
And I respect very much like Jordan Shallow.
I think he's one of the smartest people in fitness,
and I think he's in Tegriti's unparalleled.
But I will say this, it does highlight,
again, our own arrogance.
We place so much value on scientific study
that we completely devalue the fact that
there are things
that existed for long periods of time
that people did generation over generation
that talked about its value and its importance.
And just because we don't have specific studies
or EMG measurements showing muscle activation
or the fact that it doesn't develop a particular muscle
that's aesthetic, we try to toss it out.
Here's the reality.
Turkish Get Up is one of the oldest exercises
we have on record.
It just is.
There's very few actual exercises that we have on record.
Very, very few.
Running is one of the first ones.
Obviously, humans have run for a very, very, very long time.
But there's like Hindu squats and pushups.
Bent press is an old one.
Turkish get up is old as fuck, wrestlers in the Middle East
did Turkish get ups as part of their routine.
And it was, people did them for generation over generation.
Here's the thing that we need to understand.
The reason why something exists for generations
is because people see value in it.
Sure, humans get kids stuck in tradition
and do things that we think are stupid.
But the things that last, typically last
because there's some value in them.
And a Turkish get up is one of those things.
It's been around for a long time.
We only rediscovered it recently,
and it's funny that everybody's like,
oh, the new exercise has been around forever.
We rediscovered it, but it was around for a long time.
And the reason why it's been around for a long time
is it's got real values.
And here's the thing, some exercises are excellent at developing specific strength and power.
Some exercises are excellent at building particular muscles.
Some exercises are excellent at getting your whole body to work together.
That's all they do.
That's what they do, and that's what they do well.
And the Turkish get-ups, not going to build a specific muscle, you're not going to do Turkish
get-ups, and then notice like my quads got big,
my back got bigger.
You're trying to harmonize a bunch of movements
into one beautiful pattern.
That's it.
And you know what you're doing?
You're doing a fundamental movement.
You're going from the floor and getting up.
To standing, and it's funny now.
Now they're saying that one of the,
one a test that can predict mortality,
better than all other tests.
You know, get up off the floor.
Yeah, how well can you get up off the floor
without having to grab onto things?
So a Turkish get up just turns on the whole body
and works the whole body.
And it's not gonna build tons of muscle
in any particular area
and it's not gonna make your squat numbers go through the roof
or anything like that,
but you are gonna notice longevity and health benefits
and you will see some carryover
to overall performance benefits.
Now, as far as plugging it into a program,
here's where I see the confusion.
It's not a body part specific exercise.
If you're doing a body part split,
where the fuck do I put it?
It's not a movement specific, at least not to-
I like it for active recovery.
Yeah, it doesn't apply to the traditional lifts either.
So it's like, do I do it on a squat day,
do it on a deadlift day,
but it is a turn on your whole body day
in terms of benefits.
So I think just do it at the beginning of any workout.
Well, just do some reps at the beginning of any workout.
That all right.
So to Justin's point, it's kind of active recovery for me.
It's like when I'm not feeling like I want to get
after a foundational work day.
So depending on what program you have,
red, green, black, or any of the other ones,
I normally put it on either a trigger day, a mobility day, a focus day,
and I just add in three to five, you know, sets of Turkish get-ups.
Because what you'll notice, because you can't load it really, really heavy,
you won't get super, super sore.
Now you might, the first time you do it because you're gonna feel muscles turn on
that you probably, which is a great sign,
if you do get sore from Turkish get-ups,
that's a really good sign to do them.
That means you woke some shit up
that you have not probably turned on
a really long time.
But once you've done them for a while,
you shouldn't be getting really, really sore from them
because you can't really load them that heavy
to where you're gonna get super, super sore from it.
Yeah, I look at it too to like we've programmed overhead carries and things like suitcase
carries and things like that where we're building work capacity.
So, on some level for that, but really it's like it's that command over your body.
So for me, I love it because you can go heavy with it and you can kind of make a rigorous
exercise out of it, but the true value for me is just,
you know, having command over by being able to,
you know, function at a really high level
and, you know, perform something,
look at it as more like this is a skill
that I'm sharpening, and then that carries over
into, you know, the rest of the exercises
that you just maybe have treated with less intention
and this brings all that intention
and connection to your body back in.
It's a good, real general, it's not specific.
Ideally you want some specific,
but it's a real good general pre-workout primer.
Do it, do three, four reps, both sides,
before you start workout, I don't care what workout you're doing
and then go in your workout and see how you feel.
Well, you said it really well, Sal, that's not, I mean,
it only seems confusing if you're somebody who's in a body part split
and you're like, okay, what is this replace?
Yeah, the shoulders, it's not a replacement exercise.
It really should complement any workout, what's more,
whether you, it's on a functional movement.
And on it, yeah, right.
And honestly, it could be at the beginning of your workout,
to prime your entire body to get ready for a great
Workout it could be the end of your workout
It could be on an active recovery day. You really can't go wrong programming programming this thing this I like it personally
This is one of those things. I told this I taught Taylor to do this and he loves to do them now
Because Taylor's not really like a body builder guys
He keeps himself in really good health.
He's a big bike guy.
Yeah, he's a big bike guy now, right?
So he's riding his bike like crazy.
So the guy he cares about is health and fitness.
He just doesn't really give a shit
about building muscle like that.
Like he's not trying.
And so when I taught him the Turkish get up,
he's like, oh, this is really cool.
I said, you know what's really cool, too, Taylor?
I know you don't really get into the map,
Santa Balek and the map is static, where we're sculpting
and building this body, and you have a full foundation
of workout.
There's nothing wrong, and in fact, there's tons of benefit
for you to come to the gym and just do a Turkish get-ups
for a half hour.
Like literally just perfect the movement, and get good,
and he's like, really?
I'm like, yeah, you want to talk about an exercise
that really kind of touches the entire body,
and because you're not trying to develop each muscle really, really big, you're gonna get great benefit
from that.
And you will build some muscle from doing that.
So he loves that.
I'll catch him all the time in here just doing Turkish get-ups.
And I think it's a great tool for somebody who is like that, who's like him.
And there's a lot of people I know, you know, sometimes we get caught up on this podcast
as speaking to ourselves.
I care about, Justin really cares about performance
so to say, we care about the way we look.
So we talk to that, there's a lot of people
who just wanna be fucking healthy and wanna feel good.
If you're listening and you're someone like that,
doing Turkish get ups by themselves for a half hour,
it's a great workout.
It's a great single workout,
especially if you're taking it
like I'm gonna perfect this movement
and get really, really good at it.
I tell you what, you will be sweating your ass off
and you will feel incredible afterwards.
The whole body.
The whole body.
Next question is from Amelia Jude RD.
What is the next big health fad that you predict?
Oh, I'm sticking to my guns, man.
You know what? You know what? The evidence is starting to come in already and I remember I brought this up
This has to be one of our first like 50 episodes
I think we cut we talked like early on maybe four years ago
We talked about what we thought was gonna be the next big
Fat and I said I think it's gonna be a low protein fat and I know you in particular
Adam made fun of me.
I did and I still, I'm coming.
Well okay, so here's deal.
I disagreed hard back then.
Now you disagree slightly.
Just slightly.
Let me tell you why, right?
Because it's gonna be one of those fads that I'm not a fan of because I think in my
opinion, a majority of clients, not people that are into working out,
people that hired me because they needed my health workout
under consumed protein.
But because that's not really who moves the fitness market,
the people that move the fitness market
or the hardcore people that lift and exercise.
And where I see your prediction coming through
and it's gonna be hard to argue and debate you now,
is this hardcore vegan movement and debate you now, is this the hardcore vegan movement
and the not eating meat is becoming more and more popular
and we're highlighting all these, I mean,
we just recently talked about the Arnold movie
that's coming out soon where they're going to be advocating
for less meat product and protein.
So, I you're probably gonna win this argument,
for sure, even though I'm not a fan of it.
Yeah, no, no, like all fads, it's gonna be bullshit.
So, that's, so I'm not saying it's a good thing, by the way.
It's just like all fads, it's bullshit.
But what, here's the thing, there's a big push
for plant-based slash vegan.
And the argument against that, that particular argument
has always been what?
Like not enough protein.
Right, like what does meat have?
Meat has, by the way, meat has a lot of incredible value
in things and most of it's the nutrients,
not the fucking protein.
I'm gonna break something to you right now.
If you go vegan and you do it right,
the thing you need to worry about is not protein,
you might not be getting optimal amounts of protein to build muscle and whatever,
but you'll be just fine.
You'll get the essential amounts of protein with plants.
It's gonna be healthy.
It's the nutrients that you need to be careful for.
There's a lot of nutrients that are hard to get
or that are not necessarily well assimilated by the body
that you get through plants,
that you can only get from animal sources,
but that's not the case.
The case that they're going to make is
that they've always made is you don't get enough protein.
So now what they're going to do is they're going to attack protein.
They're going to say, no, too much protein is not good for you
in the context of inflammation.
It can drive cancer.
It can do this and that.
Low protein is better for longevity.
They're going to make all these arguments.
And you're going to start to see that protein
just like we did with fat and just like we did with carbs,
they're gonna start to demonize it again.
And they're not gonna get nearly as far
as they did with fats and carbs,
but they're gonna start to get far.
Here's the thing, they got really far demonizing fat.
And fat is an essential macronutrient.
And I remember, people got sick.
Some people got sick as they had the avoided fat at all costs.
Protein, fuck, they start to demonize that.
We're gonna have some big problems.
But I can see it's already going that drain.
We have fucking Arnold doing a documentary on it.
It makes it, I mean, again, when we first started this podcast,
I was definitely, in fact, you know,
this is not, we're not, what, four plus years
into this thing.
So when I first was debating you on this,
we are on the other side of watching
the pendulum swing the other way.
We are joking about everything's getting proteins being added.
That's how you know that shit's gonna go the other direction.
Right, and that's why you're probably fucking right.
I just what I'm blown away by is how fast this could potentially be coming because we just feel like a couple years ago,
we were starting to see everything being, you know, protein added to every single thing and proteins becoming this magical thing
that every company that's not even related to fitness is starting to add protein to their
drinks and their food and shit like that. So, you know, you're probably right. And when
I, what I see from the vegan community starting to push back on all that in addition and the
rise of that right now with like what the health and now Arnold thing coming out like
you're probably, you know,
I'm gonna probably concede this one to you for sure
that it's probably gonna be the low protein,
protein fasting, we're gonna start to hear
how popular it is.
Because here's the case that they're gonna make.
I'm gonna call it all out before you guys hear it
on other platforms or whatever.
They're gonna point out to studies that show
that high protein diet is bad for cancer.
What they're not going to tell you is context fucking matters.
Where are you getting the protein from?
Are you eating too many calories?
Are you already unhealthy?
In which case, yes, you can feed cancer with amino acids, just like you can feed it with
sugar, carbohydrates, and even sometimes with fats.
But they're going to say that anyway.
That's one of the number ones.
Number one, things I can say.
Number two, they're gonna show studies that show
that Americans eat more protein than almost any other country.
This is true, the average American eats more protein
than the average almost any other country.
And then they're gonna tie that to our poor health.
They're gonna say, look, Americans eat more of everything.
Yeah, thank you, Justin, but they're not gonna show you that. What they're gonna tie that to our poor health. You're gonna say, look, Americans eat more of everything. Yeah, thank you, Justin.
But they're not gonna show you that.
What they're gonna show is Americans eat more protein
than the French, more than the Italians,
more than the Spanish, more than all these other countries.
And yet we have worse health than everybody.
And then they're gonna try and make that connection.
It's the extra protein.
In reality, we eat more carbs, fats, and proteins
than anybody else.
I'm trying to act my brain though, that's nutrition.
I can buy in on that for sure,
but I'm trying to think about the latest waves
that have come through in terms of workouts and popular
styles, and we've gone through the hit phase,
we've gone through CrossFit, we've gone through
some online programs.
And I think that, you know, on some level,
like these in-home, like apps,
and it's gonna be, you know, more of a thing
in terms of like having cables available
or just everything at the house.
I'm not too sure it's gonna win,
but I think it's gonna be pushed on people a lot.
Well, if you're gonna go that direction,
I can get on board that Justin, because I think I'm gonna lose pushed on people a lot. Well, if you're gonna go that direction, I can get on board that Justin,
because I think I'm gonna lose my nutrition bet to Sal.
I actually think that we are in the middle
of watching the rise of powerlifting.
The way we saw in bodybuilding,
the way we saw in bodybuilding,
the men's bikini, I will call it,
men's little slip-pid, right almost called it. Men's, men's,
little slip-head,
right talking to shit.
Fuck, man.
Those are your people, dude.
Men's for Z.
You know, women's bikini,
that thing has exploded in the last five to six years.
And that it was a crazy,
that's a crazy fat still going.
I mean, that's now the thing.
It's become extremely popular for any guy or girls
getting on social media that's into fitness
is like doing their first show.
And posting their bikini pictures
or their men's physique or whatever pictures.
So I think we've been in the middle
and probably reaching towards the peak
of the bodybuilding trend that has really blown up.
I think we're gonna see that in powerlifting.
Which I think is really cool,
because we've talked a lot about the benefit of powerlifting,
I think, at least for me,
when I first came into the space,
you really looked at powerlifting guys
as like the guys with the big beer belly,
and they were strong, but they didn't look healthy,
or you didn't wanna be.
And so I think it got a real negative,
I think it was negative for a lot of people.
You looked at it and you go like,
it's not really so.
Well, they're super aggressive.
Those gyms are very like not inviting
in your environment.
You know what the irony of that is?
They're the friendly,
the friendly people every person.
Powerlifting gyms are,
all gyms, most gyms believe or not,
the hardcore people in gyms always are trying to be friendly to people and stuff like that. It's what you'll find in gyms are all gyms, most gyms believe or not, the hardcore people in gyms always are trying
to be friendly to people and stuff like that.
That's what you'll find in gyms.
But power lifting and strength gyms are friendlier
the bodybuilder gyms, 100%.
They're the friendliest gyms you'll ever be in your life.
They might not look like it because there's chalk
and fucking rust and metal playing in the background
and people are bleeding because they're lifting so heavy.
But you go in there and you're brand new,
they will spend their time.
Well, if they get the buy-in from women and like, like CrossFit did, it's happening.
That's already happening.
It's happening.
What I mean, just look at social media right now.
I mean, back when I powered lifting, I didn't know any girls that power lifted any
girls.
And I knew a lot of guys had just had no desire to it.
It was a very small niche.
And now you're seeing it's growing for sure.
And I'm happy about it.
I followed powerlifting for a while,
like I followed bodybuilding.
And what you saw with powerlifting was,
it started to increase in popularity.
This is in the, I wanna say in the mid to late 90s.
And then the equipped competition started taking over
where guys were wearing, you know,
squat suits and just all these crazy shit and getting all these crazy totals.
And then they lost popularity because everybody was like, well, they had like shallow looking
squats and it was all kind of.
Wasn't that like, you know, with bodybuilding, they got so big.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like, it's where they brought like the men's physique and it just blew up.
Right. And so what happened with powerlifting is they brought the raw category where you
just wear a belt and maybe knee wraps. And that really increased its popularity quite a
bit. And then here's the other thing. Powerlifting from a for women. I love it for women. Here's
why. And I love it for men too. But oftentimes women tend to, and this is generally speaking.
See the most benefits for men.
Well, in generally speaking, women oftentimes deal
with body image.
So do men, but oftentimes a women work out,
there's this body image stuff that they have to deal with.
And competing in powerlifting is a phenomenal way
to take your focus off of your body image and onto performance.
So if you're a woman and you're feeling insecure
about your body and you're working out
and you keep looking in the mirror and in my body chain,
it makes things worse.
It can make the body image worse.
But if you go to the gym,
I did this as a trainer before powerlifting
started becoming popular or whatever.
This is exactly how I train women with body image issues.
I'd get them in the gym and I'd power lift them
and all we would focus on would be their strength.
So their focus would turn from how I look, how I look, how I look, to how strong am I,
how strong am I. And then the side effect, of course, was they looked better, they built more
muscle, faster metabolism. And so that's why women are really are flocking to power lifting is
they're finding that empowerment from it where they go to what's not about how they look. It's all
about how they perform. And that's a breadth of fresh air if you're always concerned
about how you look.
Well, and the trainer hack that you your time are now because I've found the same thing
too is you what you realize is when you get them focused on that not only do you help them
with body image stuff, but then you also end up increasing their metabolism like crazy,
which only ends up helping when you go back to sculpting.
It's great carryover.
Yeah.
When you get back to time, when you get to a client and you get them to stop looking
at the mirror and their scale and how much they weigh or look.
And it's like, let's talk about your squatting
and your deadlifting and how that's increasing.
And if you can get them focused on that for months
and then you and convince them that like,
this is what we're gonna do first.
It's just focus on this.
And then we're gonna get to that ultimate goal
of the bikini body or whatever it is that you wanna look.
Don't worry, I've got that just trust me,
I'm going to take you there.
You'll focus them all on the strength area,
which ends up happening as a side effect,
is while they're building all the strength,
they end up building their metabolism up,
which only makes your job as a trainer
to reverse them back the other way and shred
or lean them out.
So it's...
Oh no, I agree, I think powerlifting
is starting to get really, really popular,
thanks to the raw lifting movement.
Thanks to women entering,
anytime women move into a market, that market explodes
and they are moving into powerlifting.
And I don't know if you guys ever been to a powerlifting
competition before.
The camaraderie and the vibe is amazing.
And I think part of the reason why it's amazing
at a powerlifting event is because the results are conclusive.
Like you either lifted more than me or you didn't.
So you either learn to be humble or nobody wants to fuck
and talk to you.
Whereas when you body build, oftentimes it's subjective.
It's always subjective.
And then there's always arguments and debates out there.
Yeah, who's better?
When you go out to like, you did lift it, 605,
I did lift 600 pounds. Congratulations. You're better today. and debates out. Yeah, who's better? When you go out there, you did lift it, 605,
I did lift 600 pounds.
Congratulations.
You're better today.
We're done.
Like no discussion about it.
That's it.
And everybody's super cool and it's very,
everybody wants you to do well.
It is.
And it encourages, here's why I love it with women as well.
It encourages women to eat more food.
And sometimes that's a fucking hard thing to tell a woman to do
when she wants to lose weight and she comes to the, you know, to hire you as a trainer. But if I get her to focus on
her strength, then getting her to eat more sometimes is a lot easier. So it's a great, now look,
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