Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1083: The Impact of Stress on Muscle Building, Tips for Becoming an Online Trainer, Ways to Overcome a Mental Crash & MORE
Episode Date: July 26, 2019In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the importance of being in a parasympathetic state for ma...ximal muscle building, whether the online training market is saturated, what causes the mental crash people get post competition, and the next Mind Pump Crew challenge . Mind Pump Recommends the Jordan Harbinger Show with Howie Mandel. (3:55) Adam has a case of the ‘dad brain’. (5:33) How Maximus has a better shoe collection than most. (6:44) Butcher Box’s CRAZY Summer “burger patties” promotion. Get it while it lasts! (9:45) Do you like orgasms? Why having persistent genital arousal disorder may have you thinking otherwise. (12:00) How will Snapchat monetize its Gen Z users? (16:16) Why there is no such thing as BAD publicity. Macy's pulls product after complaints of body shaming. (18:30) How many times can they re-brand and make Yoga cool?? Enter ‘Rage Yoga’. (22:25) What are the most valuable sports franchises? (27:42) A new way to shut down cancer cells' ability to consume glucose: study. Why fasting MAY be more effective than going ‘keto’. (32:48) Mind Pump’s thoughts on 5G. (38:53) #Quah question #1 – How important is it to be in a parasympathetic state during the day other than your workout for maximal muscle building? (44:00) #Quah question #2 – Is online training worth getting into at this time or is it saturated? (53:18) #Quah question #3 - What causes the mental crash people get post-competition? What are the ways to cope with it? (1:00:03) #Quah question #4 – Are you guys going to do another challenge with the Mind Pump Crew? (1:07:40) People Mentioned Jordan Harbinger (@jordanharbinger) Instagram Mark Manson (@markmansonnet) Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “ANYWHERE50” at checkout** Jordan Harbinger Show 210: Howie Mandel | A Conversation About Mental Health, Talent, and Perseverance Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Women with persistent genital arousal disorder: 'People hear orgasm and they think it's a good thing' This is the No. 1 thing Snapchat has to overcome Macy's pulls product after complaints of body shaming - CNN Video ‘Rage Yoga’ lets you curse and drink beer to achieve inner peace Broga® Yoga The World's 50 Most Valuable Sports Teams 2019 - Forbes New way to shut down cancer cells' ability to consume glucose How 5G Networks Will Change America - Forbes Mind Pump 1050: Mark Manson- The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Happiness Is a Practice, Not a Destination | Psychology Today Mind Pump Free Resources
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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go.
MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
In this episode of Mind Pump, we have a lot of fun in the beginning intro portion of this episode.
And then later on, we talk a lot about fitness, health, nutrition, fat loss, and muscle building.
Here's what we talked about in the first 38 minutes of this episode.
We talked about Adam's new sons, brand new shoes.
He got as a gift from butcher box.
The kids got shoes more expensive than my shoes already.
So I leaned out.
Yeah.
And butcher box, by the way, has got a huge promotion going on right now.
It's burgers for summer.
New members receive six free burger patties
in every single box until October 15th
and 20 hours off their first order
from July 10th to August 4th.
So this promotion is still going on.
All you gotta do is go to butcherbox.com,
forward slash, mine pump to get that promotion.
Then I talked about a disorder I learned about recently,
persistent, general, arousal disorder.
No, I'm not experiencing it,
but it is a terrible one that I watched.
Adam brought up how Snapchat apparently is getting
popular again.
We talked about Macy's plate discontinuation.
They were making some plates that I guess
were triggering some people, brilliant, which means that they sold making some plates that I guess were triggering some people.
Brilliant.
Which means that they sold more plates online.
I got you again.
Damn it.
Justin brought up Rage Yoga.
This is the kind of yoga he can get behind.
Fuck yeah.
Adam brought up the world's most valuable sports franchise.
If you think you know which sports franchise
is worth the most money worldwide,
listen to that part of this episode,
you might be surprised.
You're gonna be wrong.
Then I brought up a study that showed how cancer cells
can actually switch energy sources
and run off of fatty acids so they can metastasize.
It's a sneaky bath.
Cancer.
And then Justin brought up 5G and why we should all be terrified.
Then we get in the fitness portion of this episode.
The first question was, how important is it to be in a parasympathetic state during
the day for maximal muscle building?
In other words, should you be relaxed and calm all day long to maximize the muscle building
process?
The next question was, is online training worth getting into or is it saturated?
So if you're thinking about becoming an online training coach,
or if you're thinking about hiring an online training coach,
you're definitely not gonna wanna miss
that part of this episode.
The next question, what causes the mental crash
that people tend to get post-competition?
You may have experienced this yourself,
you train your ass off for a competition or for a goal,
then you finally accomplish it,
only to find yourself feeling sad, depressed,
and am motivated.
Oh, what do I do now?
Right afterwards.
So we talk about that whole process
and the final question.
Are we ever gonna do another challenge together
against each other?
I think Justin suggested a belly fat.
Come on, guys.
He's trying to get us to compete with him again
Adam I'm gonna make you guys do ballet or something if you don't come up with it. Oh
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Also, I do want to mention that I love some podcasts and one in particular is the Jordan
Harbinger podcast and he's a friend of ours.
He's been in the studio a few times.
He's actually taught us in the past some,
to how to improve our skills of interviewing
because we do look up to him with that particular skill set.
Anyway, he's in the studio with us right now.
Jordan, I wanted to bring up episode 210
with Howie Mandel.
Great episode.
Yeah, this guy, Howie Mandel,
probably a lot of people know who he is.
Judge on America's Got Talent.
I think he's probably been doing comedy professionally
longer than any of us have been alive.
He's an OG in the comedy world for sure.
He was doing voices on Bobby's world when we were probably watching Saturday morning
cartoons.
Yes, he was.
So remember that guy?
So he actually won't shake hands.
A lot of people know that.
But he has OCD and it's really severe and it's affected his whole life.
And he actually outed himself on Howard Stern by accident.
He didn't know they were broadcasting
and he wouldn't touch the doorknob
after this guy was doing a bunch of tricks with his penis.
And then, and then touched the doorknob
and he's like, I'm not touching that doorknob.
So he outed himself that way
and he learned through doing that
that a lot of other people wanted him to be open
about his struggles.
So he, and they were, they felt comfortable
with their own struggles.
So he started being like, oh,
I'm just gonna wear a lot of this on my sleeve so it changed his comedy, changed his performance, changed his personality and
He talks about the power of being impulsive
What happens when you stop worrying about what other people are gonna think and it's not like cheesy self-help
He was really open. We did like a three-hour interview cut it down to like 90 minutes
Yeah, I've heard them on other shows and whatnot
This is one of the best interviews. I've heard them on other shows and whatnot. This is one of the best interviews I've heard them on.
So make sure you check that out.
It's episode two 10 of the Jordan Harbinger podcast.
Hello.
Oh, there it is.
Is it me all looking for?
You sound good on my, I saw everyone sounds good right now.
Yeah, we're sounding good now.
We should.
I can see it in your eyes.
Oh my God, wow, voice of an angel. And I can see it in your eyes. Oh my God. Wow. Voice of an angel. I can see it in your
thighs. That's not way. Hold on. That's all I've ever wanted between you and me. I feel
like. Wow. Speaking of that, I meant to thank you for bringing my shorts and underwear
back. Oh yeah. I was telling Sal. This is interesting, hold on, wait, rewind, rewind.
I wanted to keep them, but I had to depart with them today.
They smell, how do they smell?
Fantastic.
Yeah, well, the better now that I washed them,
I'll be honest, it was a little funky.
Yeah, so Adam's been leaving things.
Yeah, I don't think he realizes this,
but I had like things in my truck,
and like he's just like all over the place
and like leaving trails.
It's the post pregnancy brain, dad brain.
At first I was like, oh, he's an Ijus, a stoner.
And then I'm like, no, this is worse than normal.
This is much worse than normal.
Speaking of family stuff,
I get a question for you, my dude. What's up? How are you gonna prevent your kid from feeling like he's the prince of
the world? Because when he starts to realize things, he's gonna look down at his shoes and have
10 pairs of air Jordans. Oh, yeah. He's got like all his shoe collection already it's already better than
a second your your son shoe collection already cost more than the amount of shoes I bought in the last
three years the people are contributing to this he can't even walk they're not just contributing
they're responsible for so do you see what butcher box did yeah yeah that's exactly what I saw
now those are those are super cool yeah those are I saw now. Those are those are super cool. Yeah, those are amazing
Yeah, yeah, no, those are those are off of stock X their authentic and their retro three Jordans
Which is just awesome. I mean that's such a cool and I
I've had lots of our partners send really neat gifts and onesies and I think all it's cool obviously
They listen to the show and or fan, right?
Cause to to know that and to know that those would be a specific.
Very. Yeah. So I thought that was really, really cool.
The irony of all of this is that knowing you obviously and, you know,
how smart you are about, you know, foot strength development and
proprioception, your kids probably going to be barefoot most of the time.
Oh, yeah. I, in fact, I even told Katrina, because I wasn't anticipating this,
because I think I told you guys before
that I wasn't gonna buy many shoes.
I was like, I don't wanna pass on my bad behaviors
to my son and just guarantee that he's gonna be a shoe snob
because he sees his dad and then he's got him
since he's a kid, right?
So I was actually kinda on this mission to be very minimalist
with him to the point where I was like,
I get rid of a lot of my shoes.
You get to just wear new balance from that.
Just go into the new balance.
So, but I am a tandoly.
I am going to keep a lot of the boxes,
because I know Katrina has somebody she works with
who's also a shoe fanatic and he's done the same thing
with his kids and that was his advice was,
he's like, keep the boxes.
He's like, because they grow so fast.
And especially if you buy nice sneakers for him,
you know, you're gonna get,
you're gonna buy a hundred dollar pair of sneakers
and he's gonna get to wear them three times.
They're gonna look brand new still.
People will buy him.
Yeah.
So,
And to be honest, for picks.
Yes, and the other thing too is,
and the other reason is because,
I mean, you and I have talked about this off air
and we've all talked about this as a group.
The time to develop the foot control, ankle mobility, the proprioception of the feet, there's
a window of opportunity in the first years of walking.
And what we do is we put shoes on kids right as soon as they start walking.
And then you can never, I don't care how much ankle and foot mobility work you do as an adult,
you've lost some of that stuff permanently.
So I know we've talked about this, you know, you're gonna have your kid walk around barefoot a lot,
so he develops that control.
Oh, 100%.
But I think that those shoes also make really not, I mean, for his bedroom, they just look,
they're nice to have in his bedroom. It's kind of like a nice, you know what I mean?
Yeah, no, it's cool. It's cool decor for sure.
What's butchered, aren't they doing like a crazy summer promotion right now yeah they got the the
hamburger meat right now they're I mean what I like about what they've been doing is every single
month they have like a different promotion that's running yeah so they have they have the hamburger
one that's going and I know that they just sent over an email to Rachel for next month already this
is going to be uh this is this is this is coming up for next month. Yeah. Two pounds of ground beef, two packs of bacon and $20 off. Yeah. And right now they're
doing the burger patties. The burger patties. That's what's going on. I mean, they're,
you're getting something for free whenever you sign up. And then the $20 off, I think
is always consistent with our, yeah, with our promotion. So for sure, one of the, I mean,
one of our best partners as far as like when you look at, you know, not that many people
may care about this stuff, but like, I mean, the stuff that I partners as far as like when you look at, you know, not that many people may care about this stuff
But like I mean the stuff that I look at the numbers of what percentage of our audience use what partnerships butcher boxes one of the number one
One of the number one out of all the partners that we have as far as what most people are consuming like their their product is the highest
Which has been barbecuing a lot over the summer so far. Oh, that's all I do.
That's all I do.
Yeah.
Like, that's been, it's been actually nice
because I've been able to, I feel like I'm contributing more,
you know, because like, I don't cook in the kitchen quite as much.
Like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing,
but I can at least grill.
Yeah.
I feel like I can control one factor there.
So, yeah, I've been, like, almost at least four to five nights a week,
I'm out there grilling it.
Same here, it's easy, it's easy, it's fast,
it's healthy because you have good quality.
And the kids will eat it, everybody eats it.
So it's cleaner too, instead of putting something
the oven or whatever, I love barbecuing.
Katrina's mom used the,
because we're getting the hamburger patties in meat right now.
She actually used the patties and made like this.
I don't even know what you would call that, but it was the ground beef from butcher box
with zucchini, quinoa, like this, and like some sort of a sauce.
Like a casserole or something?
Yeah, like a casserole.
But in a bowl, it was really, really good.
Huh.
I got to ask her how she, we just had it like two nights ago
Cuz her mom's her mom's with us right now
So we've been rotating family like who's staying with us and what's awesome right now is that we're getting all of our meals cooked and
Dishes done for us. It's been oh, that's nice. Yeah, pretty nice good family. Yeah, please. I saw some crazy shit
The other day that I want to tell you guys about I think it's insane
I was familiar with this I love crazy shit. Yeah, so okay first off. I'm gonna ask you guys a question
I already know the answer to do you like orgasms?
What is this a trick question? Yeah, yeah, what are you gonna do to me?
Yeah, I mean
That's like the start of the
Yeah, well under your chair, it's the device.
I'm going to switch it on.
No, that's not what's going to happen.
I don't like them that much.
Yeah, no, obviously if people were to list the top, you know, most in the moment pleasurable
things that you could experience, orgasm would be up there.
It'd be in the top five for sure.
And for some people, it'd be number one.
It's a state of ecstasis, a temporary,
momentary presence that we get.
Obviously everybody likes it.
Well anyway, there is a disorder
that's called persistent,
genital arousal disorder.
So it's a real thing.
It affects women at much higher rates than men.
And I think this is because men have this built-in
refractory period,
and women tend to not have,
so I women can have multiple orgasms easier for us.
Easier than men.
Exactly.
Yeah, no problem.
Well anyway, dude, so I was watching this one woman.
Yes.
That's right.
It was weird.
I was drawn to this.
Yeah.
This video really got my attention.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like,
ever since I started listening to my master. What do you search on Borough for this? Yeah, this video really got my attention. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,, no, it's true. Is that, that's like four an hour.
This is real.
This is real.
All night.
Like the wind blows and it's just,
it's, it can be random.
So she could just be sitting there and then she'll start to,
it'll start to come and then she'll start to come.
Wow.
I don't plan on telling it, I mean that to happen.
The slightest vibration, so if she drives in a car,
she has orgasms all the time.
She can't sleep at night because they keep her up.
And it's, you know, it sounds funny
and you know, all joking aside, that would be terrible.
How would you say that?
The irony of that, right?
It's like you're, what you would call it,
your twilight zone episode, right?
You think it would be an amazing thing
until you get all of it.
Like you get the evil genie, you know?
Make a wish, I wanna be coming all day. Yes, okay. Under the day. amazing thing until you get all of it. Like you get the evil genie, you know, make a wish. I want to be coming all day.
Yes. Okay.
Under the day.
Yeah. Here you go.
Sounds great.
Yeah. No poor girl.
You're watching this girl and she's because she doesn't matter who she's with.
She's with her family.
She's hanging out by herself.
Whatever.
Imagine you're just hanging out and you know, you know, we're going to hang out and
you know, you're going to come in the next, you know, 10 minutes.
It's going to happen.
You know, does she have a boyfriend or like a partner?
I bet you they feel like.
Yeah.
So it's gotta be possible.
I'm sure it's gonna be terrible.
It's gotta be treatable.
She probably has to take some.
No.
What?
It's extremely numbing.
It's extremely hard to treat.
Well, think about it.
If you took something that numbed your brain
to prevent that from happening,
even if it existed, you would have a decreased quality
of life in the other direction.
Yeah, you're right, but you'd be high.
I'm sure if you were to take some sort of like a...
Well, antidepressants can cause make it difficult
for people to orgasm and whatnot, but this one is extremely
hard to treat because they don't know what the fuck is going on.
They don't know what's happening or why it's happening.
It's probably a ghost.
Yeah.
And,
fuck up.
Go into town.
But I was watching this poor woman,
like, they're interviewing her,
and you can see she's talking to the camera,
and then she'll just start shaking her leg.
And then she's like, yeah, it's happening right now.
I've learned to like suppress, you know,
the noises I make or whatever,
she goes, it happens right now and she goes
and it causes me to pee myself sometimes and wow.
Wow, what a terrible situation.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, you're like a meeting and it's just like slowly creeps out.
Yeah, how do you hide that?
And how do you, here's the other part,
how do you share that with someone?
Imagine the creepy fucks.
Oh yeah.
You know, if you start talking to a guy
and you kind of end to each other.
This is happening now.
Yeah, and you're like,
you're like, listen, I have this disorder
where I just orgasm 100 times a day
and he's like, really?
No.
Oh my god.
It would be terrible.
Along those lines,
did you see that Snatch Chat is back up?
They had their biggest Snatch Chat.
Yeah, I did.
That was on purpose, there.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know Snatch Chat is up on,
they had their biggest quarter yet. Oh, they're growing. So remember, there. Yeah, I know Snapchat is up, they had their biggest quarter yet.
Oh, they're growing.
So remember they went from 2016, 2017,
they took, they've been like on a dot nose dive,
and then they've just had this resurgence,
and they attributed it to not worrying about,
so I guess they were on this like mission
to try and get our generation in above
because they cornered the market
for the young kids early on.
And to keep growing and scaling,
they were like, oh, we gotta get moms and dads
using Snapchat more.
And that was kind of the focus for 2016-17,
which was a terrible business plan, I guess.
No, the kids were like, we're out of here.
Right.
And so they actually went back and said,
fuck it, we're not gonna worry about anybody else. And just focus on Gen Z, rolled out a bunch of here. Right. And so they actually went back and said, fuck it, we're not gonna worry about anybody else
and just focus on Gen Z, rolled out a bunch of face.
Either one of you guys still use any of the filters
or any of that stuff?
I've never used Snapchat.
It's because Instagram made it like part of their thing
so it made it easier.
Why even cross-over?
And I don't understand Snapchat.
I've never used it so I don't get the lore.
Here's what I know, correct me if I'm wrong.
I missed that both.
Yeah, I feel like Adam's most hip to this.
So for my understanding, I can record myself
or take a picture of myself, send it to someone,
and it'll get time to delete itself,
or let me know if they screenshot it, or what it is.
That's all it is.
That's 100% kids sending each other dick picks and stuff.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, that's the main allure to it.
And then they did a good job with the filters.
I mean, Instagram has followed their lead
with all the little filter things.
And they're right now, you've seen,
I know you guys have seen this, the gender swap.
Yeah.
So that's a big popular one that just got released.
Remember the one I did on the fucking Russian app?
Yeah, the Russian bot? The Russian bot.
Dude, that was, let's be honest now.
Everybody can be honest here.
I was so proud of this.
Like, he was actually like kind of hot.
That was a hot shit.
Only you would fuck you.
Yeah.
Just let's be honest, he took that home.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's be honest, you checked it out a little too much.
Yeah, first of all, first of all,
pretty sure you give yourselves hand job.
Uh, one step, really.
So anyway, did you guys see the Macy's, the whole debacle with
Macy's and the plate that they put out that they had to like take off the market?
No, like what?
I briefly saw that.
What was that all about?
So they did this plate, so we're in a, you know, hyper-sensitive.
Something about like the sizing or something like that.
Okay, so we're in a hyper-sensitive society right now. Like everybody's like, please don't,
you know, everything hurts my feelings. Anyway, it's a plate. And on the plate, there's a center
circle, a bigger circle around it, and then a larger circle around it. And the middle circle says
skinny jeans. Then the circle outside of it says favorite jeans. And then the big circle on the
outside says mom genes.
In other words, like if you eat a little bit,
if you eat a little more and a little more.
Now, I'm, you know, of course,
people got offended because it says mom genes
and, you know, people are like your body shape.
I'm a mom, does that mean I'm fat?
You know, the irony of that is like the moms
that are in great shape didn't get offended by that.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, here's the thing, getting offended
means that you're, you feel like it's directed specifically at you.
You're taking something personal that obviously,
it's a product made for everybody.
That is.
But here's, here's the thing I wish people would understand.
Just don't buy it.
It's a joke.
Yeah, just don't buy it.
And also.
It's actually pretty clever.
It is.
It is, but it's pretty clever.
I think it was stupid.
And I think it was Macy's made a stupid, annoying the current situation. Well, okay. I don't know. I'm going to challenge
that. We're talking about it. Exactly. I'm going to challenge that. Like that's that this
is like the new way to market now because and it's brilliant. I see that offensive. I mean,
give me a break. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. You might be right. Adolf. Of course.
It says here, the retailer pulled the item from its flagship store, New York City store,
just hours after Twitter poster blasted
the plates food amount.
There you go.
Okay, since then online orders have tripled.
There you go.
It's like the new strategy right now
and these big companies are super nicknamed
like Macy's, like Nike are keen to this.
And you know, all of us are a bunch of lemmings
to fall for it.
That it's just.
We're talking about it right.
It's to get us triggered and then talk shit and go back and forth.
And for them, it's free pub, man.
And it's one of the best ways right now with the way the mark.
I mean, look at you.
No, you're right.
With a little media.
Yeah, Gillette has done it.
Nike has done it now.
Macy's has done it.
It's like piss people off in a way that's like, but we'll still recover.
Right. Yeah. Meanwhile, you're ready to pull it right away. They probably made a hundred of those plates.
Yeah. They probably made a hundred of those plates.
Like, we'll sell 10,000 real quick. We'll pull them off the shelf.
Then they'll be worth more people will want them. Totally.
Wow. Yeah. No, you're right. What's that old adage?
There's no such thing as bad publicity. That's right.
And it's more true today than ever before, isn't it?
Because it's so easy to trigger people right now.
It is.
I mean, if you want people to know about you
or know about a product, get them triggered
so that they share and talk about it and become enraged.
And then as a result, the backlash is always the other side,
which is like, you're dumb, don't be enraged.
You know what, I'm gonna buy this just to show you
that it's not a being on whatever.
Yeah, wow. Sit back and collect. Yeah, yeah. You know what, I'm gonna buy this, just to show you that it's not a being on whatever. Yeah, good.
Wow.
Sit back and collect.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, it's funny, if they did one for men
that said like, dad bod, or whatever,
nobody would have given me sh.
Oh, no he cares.
No, I don't think anybody would have gotten offended.
No.
At all.
Sit those hygiene's, come on man, get real those things.
Oh, as long as I go all the way up the waist.
That style, bro.
Dude, no.
That's the style.
Oh, it's back. That's all the workout pants for women too
They they they they go up to the ribcage. Yeah, forget about it. Yeah, what was it 70s 80s? No real like that
No, that's 80s due because the 70s was the low rise
80s, which I I think looks
I think it looks sexy. Yeah, I think it looks what you you know why people like the high rise shit? Bottom butt comes out.
Well, it tucks, it tucks the muffin.
It tucks everything in.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's like wearing a squeeze is the muffin top.
Yeah, it's like wearing a big, what's the work horse it or whatever.
I just don't like the way they look.
You know, I'm either, but then again, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm growing on me a little bit. Yeah, it's been around long enough now. Yeah. You're all right. Did you guys see that article with Jackie sent
about rage yoga?
I'm wondering how many times they can re-brand
and try and make yoga more appealing
to like your average person.
So this is interesting to me because,
you know, you're going to have two sides here
and it reminds me of like us with fitness
and like how we feel like about group training.
And there's this argument of,
hey, if you really think that yoga's good and it's good for people and more people need to do it,
then what's wrong with appealing to the people that normally wouldn't go to it by doing things like
this, then you have the other camp, which are like the purist that are like the whole point of yoga
is to not be used. It's almost a religion. Yeah, right. So, yeah, I don't know what side I lean on more.
I know how I feel about the personal training and fitness side.
Like that's why I'm like.
Well, explain, Ray Joka.
I'm assuming that you're just screaming and pissed off in the class.
I don't understand.
No, like they, I mean, it's, I think it's more of like this anti-spiritual vibe.
Like it's more of like, hey, you swear and you talk shit and they have breaks
where they get beer and then they come back and do these poses together.
I think it's like, I don't know, it's kind of like the ironic yoga version where it's
not so formal and people are just like bullshit.
I think it sounds kind of cool.
That's so do I.
Yeah, it sounds like a good time.
It does sound great to me.
Mainly because I've taken quite a few yoga class, not a long time.
I don't know. I feel like it's bastardizing. It sounds like you're taking
you're taking the element about the exercises that are in yoga, which are probably
the least valuable piece to yoga. And really it's about the mindset you learn to
get. I 100% agree with you. Here's why I can.
Here's why I kind of like this. I've experienced this.
Yoga can get extremely pretentious.
Oh yeah, like anything.
You go into these classes and I've been to a lot of these classes.
And you've got everybody who's out, you know, they're trying to out-ohm each other.
Like I'm more yoga than you.
I'm more, look at all my Lululemon and look at all my,
you know, I'm more peaceful and, you know, whatever.
And it becomes this hyper pretentious.
I have my own amostatio.
Yes, and it becomes this hyper pretentious.
Which is how, which is why a business like that
can happen, right?
Yeah, it's just the response to that.
So what it all had probably enough happening is
it'll probably balance itself out, but I'm not a fan.
I mean, the whole point of yoga is the,
if I'm gonna take a yoga class instead of doing mobility work,
which is something that I would do with my rock and on,
because when I do mobility work in here,
I'm definitely listening to rock or music
that's not calming and relapsing.
So I'm doing mobility work.
It's closer to being more like a workout,
but if I'm going into a yoga class,
I'm going in even more so for the meditative purposes.
Then the actual exercise.
Then the actual exercise.
That's a hundred percent.
I agree with that.
Because I totally get in with the mobility side of it.
And I do that instead of a yoga class,
like a structured formal yoga class.
And I love doing that.
But if I was to go into yoga,
I'd expect some kind of calming effect.
This is 100% a reaction to the pretentiousness
that's developed from a lot of these yoga circles.
It's like these, you see these people on Instagram
and I used to see them in classes.
It's the whole, I have dreadlocks.
They're just so white.
I'm peaceful.
I'm so meditative, but I also do hella drugs
and I like to go to fucking festivals and, you know,
it's like, it's super pretentious.
And this is it.
To me, it's no different than every other box.
I mean, you see it in the strength community,
you see it in the bodybuilding community,
you see it in the crossfit community.
Yeah, this is what we do.
It's what is one of the most annoying things
about the space.
We identify.
It's why I'm like the guy who as soon as you start to
say on this guy I'm over somewhere else because it just I don't ever want to
be put in a box. You don't want to be in the box free box either though you know
I mean you don't want to be in the box if I'm not in a box. I just blew
everybody's mind. I don't live in a box like that movie inception. There was
bro get to that was another one you guys have heard of that? Really?
Yeah.
But this was a while ago. I remember reading about this franchise
that popped up that was just specifically trying to target dudes
and make it a dude. Broga?
Yeah, I called it Broga.
Getting all these like inflexible guys in there doing a class.
I actually was like, I would love to see what that looks like.
Yeah, what does a class look like?
All right, everybody.
Yeah. So much agroning. Stan. stand still and rotate to the left hold that position
Reach up above your head hold for five seconds. Yeah, try not to fall
You know what I it reminds me when we were watching that beach body warm up the guy was doing the circles and the jogging
Like this guy's never run in his life. He's just like picking his feet up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
his toes.
He fell off the floor.
I just ate just tap tap tap tap to the warm up circles.
And then the one is completely my god, the burn in my tricep.
Yeah, of course it's burning.
Serious.
You've never moved in a range of motion other than bench press.
Nothing dynamic.
I remember when I did yoga, I was surprised at how fatigued holding my arms above my head were.
Just holding above my head for a pose. And I was like, why are my shoulders freaking burning and getting a pump?
And I was like, oh, I must have some mobility.
We'll do this very often, apparently.
This sucks. Yeah, yeah, anywhere.
Super glaring, right?
Yeah. Go ahead.
No, I was gonna bring up the, we were talking about franchises and stuff.
It reminded me of a topic that we talked about. I don't know maybe a I would say six months ago when we were all
Speculating on like most valuable sports franchises and I think we had dug even look it up
And I just wanted to bring it up because I actually read it in one of my one of my articles
I was reading in the morning and it has the top 10 sports teams. Is this worldwide? Yeah, this is everything, so all sports.
So I wanted to see if you guys can get
the couple of them off of this list.
So there's 10, I have the top 10 right now
from the Forbes of the most valuable franchises
and how much.
Manchester United.
Yeah, I think that's gotta be up there somewhere.
Okay, so there's one.
And now it's Formula One.
The Patriots.
Hold on, is Formula One count,
or is that not count because it's not a team
Yes, well, I mean it is a team for me like one in terms of racing. Yeah, because there's some some of those teams
None of them make this yeah, and they would never touch these sports teams are gonna do so much better
Cuz you gotta think of the things like
Jersey's of all the players in the team
That's right. You gotta keep taking about like the all blacks from so you guys got Manchieffs or United, that is number six.
Yankees.
New York Yankees is number two.
Number two.
Wow, four point six billion.
Wow, that's huge.
That just goes to show you how big the American market is
because I'm pretty sure there's worldwide fans of the Yankees,
but a majority of the Americans are on there.
I know that's like,
no, Patriots are on there.
They're number seven.
We got to get number one.
Yeah, we got to get number one. Yeah, we gotta get number one.
What is number one?
Well, I thought Manchester would have been, for sure.
You guys should know this.
We should know this, huh?
Hold on a second, let me think.
I mean, the Yankees, is it the Boston Bumblebee?
Yankees, I, Yankees were number two.
Do you guys know what America's team is?
America's, oh, Cowboys, there you go.
Oh, wow.
Of course it's Cowboys, so.
No, I wonder if I can, remember, this was the discussion that got heated because I pissed everybody off on the forum America's oh cowboys. There you go. Oh wow. Of course it's cowboys.
No, I wanted to mind.
So remember, this was the discussion that got heated because it pissed everybody off on
the forum because it's time for soccer.
Oh.
And I was talking about how they number one.
No, so cowboys are number one.
Oh my god.
Yankees are number two.
Okay, so I'll tell you everybody.
So Dallas Cowboys, five billion, New York Yankee, and in the order.
This is just total dollar value.
Yeah, it was a franchise's worth, right?
So it's everything included, right? So Dallas Cowboys, five billion, New York Yankees, order. This is just total dollar value. Yeah, it was a franchise's worth, right? So it's everything included, right?
So Dallas Cowell was five billion.
New York Yankee's 4.6 billion.
Real Madrid, four billion.
Oh, that's right.
4.24 billion.
I don't even know them.
Socker.
Number four, Barcelona, four billion.
Wow.
Number five, New York Nix, four billion.
Which that's crazy.
Wow, that's Nix.
Yeah, and they've been in the Dutch.
I wouldn't even thought of that.
Yeah. The York Madison Square Garden, man. Wow.
Manchester United, 3.8 billion. Now that's top six so far. Yeah. So of the top six,
three of them are soccer teams. Right. And then the rest are mixed up between baseball, football
and basketball. Okay. And then, uh, so that was Manchester United, right? Uh, number
seven New England Patriots, 3.8 billion.
Number eight, Los Angeles Lakers.
Lakers, 3.7.
Yeah.
Number nine, our Golden State Warriors.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, that's it.
They made their way up for sure, 3.5 billion.
And then number 10 is a tie between the New York Giants
and the Los Angeles Dodgers at 3.3 billion.
You know, hockey teams.
No, that's crazy.
You know what would be cool with it?
First off, this highlights the power
in terms of just sheer dollars of the American market.
Because numbers wise, more people watch soccer
than any other sport.
But dollars wise, American consumers are, we're just a force.
If you make it, if you are at number one in America,
revenue wise for any for almost any category,
except for soccer, you're gonna be probably top in the world.
That's how big our market is, our powerful it is.
But what would be interesting is if we added those up
to see which sport resulted in the most total revenue,
because the difference between number one
and number seven, how much is it in billions, only like half a billion or a billion, am I right? What between number one and number like seven, how much is it in billions, it's only like half a billion or a billion, am I right?
What between number one and a billion?
Number one was what, six billion?
Five billion.
Five and then what was like number seven?
Number seven is 3.8 billion.
Yeah, so it's not a huge, huge difference.
I mean, billions are a lot,
but I mean in terms of the numbers on there,
I wonder which sport generates,
has the most revenue, look,
I think there were like four basketball teams.
It would be number one.
No, basketball has got the Lakers, the Warriors, the Knicks.
That's it.
So three football there were football.
There is the Cowboys, Patriots, and that's, oh, and the New York Giants.
Yeah.
So they've got three also.
It'd be interesting to add up the numbers.
The Yankees and the Dodgers.
That's it on there.
Soccer's got three.
I mean, they all got two or three,
you know, so it would be pretty good.
My free even.
Yeah, it would be pretty close.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
God, if soccer could, if soccer only could penetrate
the American market the way it has in Europe,
it would be, it won't though.
If it hasn't by now, it ain't gonna happen or not.
We're not feeling it.
No, yeah, I don't think so.
Unless women's soccer becomes number one.
Yeah, our team is just I think that's part of I think part of why it hasn't is because America wants to make that stance.
Yeah, that's not America's game. So we're not it's like part of it is you know, unless if you like it or not
It's kind of like I'm not buying in because football is America's if they made tackle soccer. I'm sure it would be
Do that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it is over here. Yeah, strung rules football. That's right. That's right.
Strung rules football.
Dude, so a little science study, I like to plug these in every once in a while.
They identified a gene within cancer cells that allows them to switch energy sources.
There's something known as the Warburg Effect
that's been observed with cancer cells.
And this is that cancer cells have trouble utilizing fat
or fatty acids for energy.
And oftentimes when you starve them of glucose,
oftentimes they weaken or die, but not always.
We know this, we know that the warberg effect is in a cure.
Like you could take somebody else's cancer,
put them on a keto diet, a medical keto diet,
where it's even low protein,
and many times the cancer cells, the cancer doesn't go away.
Sometimes it does, but many times it doesn't.
And what they're finding in this study,
they found a gene that where cancer cells,
when it's time for them to spread,
when they want to metastasize, they want to move around.
They'll switch from glucose to fatty acids because cancer cells utilize so much energy that
they've learned to mutate so that they could run off of different sources of energy.
So it's like these cells that fucking don't want to die and they just learn how to utilize whatever energy you have.
This is why I think rather than going keto fasting
has been shown to be more effective.
Again, it's not a cure, but it's shown to be more effective
because fasting means you're not giving them glucose,
you're not giving them protein,
which cancer cells can take amino acids and make glucose and you're not giving them protein, which cancer cells can take. I mean, it was to make glucose,
and you're not giving them fats either.
I thought too, is it true,
like certain types of cancer were more prone
to feeding off of fat?
Yeah, yeah, it looks like glucose.
Yeah, yeah, it's the ones that they identify the sheen.
So anyway, what they're doing now
is they're trying to look at potential treatments that will
prevent cancer cells from being able to switch over to fatty acids.
So that we can, through dietary means, starve them out by going, no carbohydrates, low protein,
and then just eating fat so people can get calories and sustenance. You know, in Chinese medicine,
that's an ancient treatment for cancer,
is to starve the cancer.
The problem is, and this is before modern medicine,
that people would, it was like a battle of attrition.
Right.
Who's gonna die first, the cancer or me?
So I'm just gonna go without food for months.
And- That's been my experience with family and people
that are close to me that have passed
because of cancer going through that is knowing that
I know that fasting would be like an ideal pro-cal,
but what ends up happening a lot of times
for these patients is they lose their appetite, you know.
They're already weak.
Yeah, well before, really early on, and it's hard enough
to get any food, and so most of the doctors are telling
you need to eat something and so they're like whatever you can stomach or keep down because your
body is not going to end. It's just it's totally atrophying and everything's dying off so it's
kind of hard to like expect somebody to fast in that state and I think that's one of the that in
my experience with the people that I've dealt with like that's been the greatest challenge is
you know they're they're getting so weak they're so brittle from not getting any nutrition
for so long that they need something.
And so trying to get them to fast on when they're
in that state is really good.
You know, there's this common conspiracy theory belief
that we have the cure for cancer
and that it's more profitable to just treat it
and not cure it.
That's bullshit. And I want people to realize that that's more profitable to just treat it and not cure it.
That's bullshit. And I want people to realize that that's bullshit,
especially if you have a family member
who's suffering from cancer because the truth is,
if you ever discover a cure for cancer,
you are immediately the richest person ever.
Cancer kills the extremely powerful and connected,
just like it kills the poor and unconnected.
It is extremely complicated disease.
But I do think that in the next 20 years,
we may have some answers with nanotechnology
and potentially what they're finding now
with by modifying viruses, where they'll
inject someone with a virus, but it's been modified to infect cancer cells and kill them.
So in cannabinoid-facin, kind of.
Almost.
In cannabinoid research is fascinating.
Cannabinoids at high doses tell cancer cells to kill themselves.
And so I think that there's some promising stuff
in the future, but right now it's still one of those
fucked up things that modern medicine still has not
really figured out.
Some cancers we figured out, prostate cancer, for example,
used to be a death sentence, and now it's
testicular cancers, another one.
Cancer's when you find them early,
for the most part, seem to be pretty treatable.
So we've made some advances, but it's a fucked up disorder.
Yeah, it just seems like we're spinning our wheels.
Meanwhile, we're adding all these other things
in the environment and what we're putting in our bodies
and everything to really foster more of an environment
that promotes cancer growth.
Well, dude, well, something like one out of every three of us
or two of us will die from cancer.
So, it sucks, because it's a terrible way to go.
I lived it firsthand.
It's not, and I remember going through this
with my family member when she got afflicted with it.
And I thought, is it better to just have a heart attack
and die or is it better to have this disease
that you suffer from?
And I think in some ways, if you know you're dying,
you can say you're goodbyes and process it,
but man, you suffer.
You suffer for a long-ass time.
It's a terrible fucking way.
Yeah, and it turns, you turn a different person
because of what you're battling.
It's crazy.
And the people around you
I mean they suffer along you know with you because it's just like I can't do anything
Yeah, I think about it. It's fucking terrible if you guys heard much about I mean they rolled out this whole 5p thing
And it's gonna get more intense in terms of like where they're putting these like antennas and things inside buildings and
You know, they're really trying to speed everything up
on like hyper speed level.
How, what are your thoughts on it?
You know, I've read not a ton on it,
but I have read people's thoughts on it
and their apprehensions.
And we tend to do this with things. Well, if something
is, you know, seems like it's going to be very profitable, the market wants it. We tend
to release it, put it out, and then later on realize, oh, maybe there's some problems
with it. So I think we need to be cautious. I think we need to be a little bit more cautious.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I think.
I think it's smart to invest in property
out in the country so much.
I mean, that's actually good.
I think that's not a bad, I think regardless of,
if it's safe for now, people will want to do that.
Yes, yes.
I think it's getting to that.
I mean, look where we're at already,
with the fight.
And I tell you what, after I've seen some of those like,
and I don't know how fucking real those images are
of showing the, the, the showing the 4G of like how that
remember I showed you guys on what's his face is page, he's had an image.
Oh right.
I don't know what kind of...
You could see the traces of it, they made like some kind of spectral visual out of it.
Yes, you could see they made the waves in a color so you can kind of see where it's
how it's traveling through your house and you know from the router to your phone or stuff like that.
And it makes me go like, man, that's going right.
It's passing right over and through us
that if we're constantly in that field,
inundated with it.
And what's happening is we continue to strengthen
that current.
I can't imagine that is healthy and good for our body.
Well, that's a thing.
Like, how do you study it?
You would have to have people be exposed to it
for a lot of people.
A lot of people.
For a long, decades.
Yeah.
And then come back and be like, okay, here's a deal.
Yeah.
But that's not gonna fucking happen.
We don't even know how 4G affects us long term.
We've only been around for how long.
Well, until we find that intensity,
that frequency that really starts changing people.
Right.
Right. Yeah, like, and that's what Chernobyl was kind of a thing for me
where it's like, I didn't realize,
you know, like the proximity is everything
in terms of, you know, getting radiation exposure.
Like, you see different levels of sickness
based off of how intense it is.
And I feel that that's why I say like investing in property.
Cause I think what we're gonna do,
and the rate we're moving will be you know
10G before you know it yeah, and it'll exactly and we'll keep pushing those limits until like you're saying Justin something happens
We're like oh shit. Okay. Now. We know that's too far. Okay. He've reached the max 10G fucks you up within six months
But then then what does that say about four and five G? It doesn't fuck you up in six months
It just takes 20 or 30 years before it fucks you up.
10G so powerful. You don't even need a computer or a phone.
It's like your fucking brain.
Well, that's the crazy part for me because I'm starting to see like marketing in the other
direction, right? They're starting to try to really promote the benefits of it a lot
more and put that out there. So there's like all this, you know, this cool imagery in
these videos that show O.R. doctors using it with holograms
and things to be able to real time.
It saves lives.
Because the bandwidth is so great
and the speed so fast that they can get the clear imagery
they need to be able to assess brain activity
the way that they need to surgically remove things.
And anyways, I was like, oh, okay,
now they're really trying to counter,
because there is a lot of potential detourments to this.
We, this is a constant lesson for humans,
where we just never appreciate and respect technology.
We don't give it its true respect.
We learned this lesson over and over again.
We learned it with the, what's that blimp
that caught fire and blew up the second day
that the Hindenburg, the Titanic. You know, this it with the, what's that blimp that caught fire and blew up the second of the day, the Hindenburg, the Titanic.
You know, this was during the, during the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the we're so smart, it'll never be, it's unsinkable. And of course, you know, we know the story of the Titanic.
Right.
Medication.
So it's arrogant.
Yeah, medications that we put out that caused,
you know, birth defects and we came off the market
and you know, all kinds of other shit.
And it's just, we just don't respect it.
We don't respect technology enough to take a step back
and be like, okay, I know we can, but should we?
Let's take a second.
Let's measure it about this.
Yeah, let's take a second.
No, it's not a second. Let's be measured about this. Yeah, let's take a second.
No, that's not going to happen.
Scary.
Shhh.
Shhh.
Quick call.
I'm going to fly up to the wall.
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Quiqueau.
First question is from, it's pitiful.
How important is it to be in a parasympathetic state during the day other than your workout
for maximal muscle building?
Okay, this is a good question because like everything, we take some information and then
it becomes like the most important thing in the world.
And I think we've oversimplified the parasympathetic and sympathetic state. Yeah.
You know, both are a part of regular life.
Both are, it's healthy to, at times being either state and eliminating one over the other.
I mean, if you were always in a parasympathetic state, wouldn't be good for you.
If you were always in a sympathetic state, also wouldn't be good for you. If you were always in a sympathetic state, also wouldn't be good for you. The key here is not about all, and real quick for the listeners who are like, what the hell do you
talk about? Sympathetic state is the state of the central nervous system that is characterized by
high energy, cortisol release, stress, hard workouts, you know, hype, right? You're hyped. That's a, that's a, you're awake. You're awake, right?
Parasynpathetic is sleep, rest, digest, relaxation, calm. And the key here
isn't to be in the parasympathetic state all the time. The key is to have a
balance that contributes to a healthy lifestyle.
So I'll give you an example, okay?
Let's say you work out once a day
and you heard on a podcast
that being in a parasympathetic state
is good for muscle building.
So you're like, okay, I'm gonna work out for an hour
and then I'm gonna sleep the rest of the day.
Cause that's about as parasympathetic as it gets,
it's going to sleep.
Will you build more muscle doing that?
No.
In fact, that's a great way to prevent any muscle building
because there's no activity, no movement,
there's no signal being sent.
You are basically comatose for the rest of the day.
The key is balance, the key is being in balance.
How do you know if you're at a balance?
Are you sleeping all day and groggy and drowsy all day long?
You might need some sympathetic in your life.
And that sounds like depression.
Are you sympathetic all day in the sense that you're stressed, anxious, sweaty palms, cold sweats, drinking caffeine throughout the day?
You need to chill the fuck out a little bit
and go parasympathetic.
And that's really it.
There's no, it's so oversimplified and we do this so much.
Well, this reminds me because I don't, was it studies that came out and when we were,
you know, 10, 15 years ago that talked about the benefits of that of like getting parasympathetic
after a really hard workout.
And so that's where that came from because I remember putting emphasis on that.
Like, oh, my buddies and I would try and train as hard
as we could, and then we would go home and lay down.
We'd lay down and try, and that would be the goal
would be to lay down and take a nap, go feed,
we would feed, and then try and lay down a nap
and relax and be as sedentary as we could
for the rest of the day.
Like that was really like a goal.
Training as hard as you could,
and then let it grow.
Right, and then let it, yeah, let yourself grow after that.
So I don't know where that started,
or why it got so popular.
So I guess the answer is then you want a balance of both,
and you don't want one way more than the other,
and that's when you should be focused on the opposite, right?
Absolutely, and again, if you're, look, I'll tell you what,
I remember this is a,
this is an observation I've had several times with myself,
but especially when I was younger,
there were a few moments where I, you know,
those aha moments.
One of them was, I was,
I wanna say 15,
I deep into working out, right?
Already, I started at the age of 14,
by the time I was 15, I was like,
that's it, this is what I'm gonna do
for the rest of my life, I'm gonna be in fitness.
I was super dived into information,
read everybody building magazine,
had was taking supplements already,
trying to put on muscle.
And I remember reading that your muscles grow when you sleep
and that you need to allow your body to rest and recover.
And just like what you said, Adam, I took ticket to the extreme and took it to heart and super
literal, I would literally go to the gym or work out my backyard at the time and I'd
fucking obliterate myself.
Then I'd sit on the couch and watch TV and sleep and eat for as much as I possibly could
to try and grow.
And I remember I was probably 15 and a half,
and my cousin was really into working out like I was,
and him and I had just got a job.
My first job was at, I was washing dishes
at this Pizzeria, so then we had some cash, right?
So we're making money.
And my cousin's like, let's go buy BMX bikes.
It's gonna be really fun and really cool.
And he convinced me to go buy a BMX bike.
I think he had a mongoose, and I don't remember what I bought.
I bought something.
I was, I don't remember what the brand was anyway.
We got into, you know, in between our workouts,
we get on our BMX bikes and learn how to bunny hop
and just when you were biceps grew.
This is when my biceps had, I'll never forget,
because I remember being like conflicted, like,
fuck man, all the cycling and going outside
and being active in between workouts,
this is gonna kill my gains.
But I remember I was practicing bunny hopping
and one of the things you gotta do
when you bunny hop is pull on the handles
and when you don't know how to bunny hop,
you pull way too fucking hard.
So for hours, I'm ripping the handles up,
trying to pull them and I used to measure my arms right
all the time. And I remember my biceps started growing and I was like could it be the fucking bunny hopping?
That was like lesson. That was the first time I saw I kind of learned like oh like
Maybe like activity isn't always bad for muscle flow to moderate activity
It actually aids in recovery even more effectively
Absolutely and that that blood flow and everything else involved
isn't super important.
I think it is.
It does feed into that, if you think,
if you're just pounding the parasympathetic
is the way to, you know, to gain it,
it reminds me a lot of that where you go super intense
in the split routine and you do a leg day,
and then you just sleep.
And then the next, you can't even walk,
you know, like the next day,
because it's just two extremes.
Like you have to find that healthy balance where, you know, like the next day, because it's just two extremes. Like you have to find that healthy balance
where you know your body, it's sending that right signal
where it's like, okay, like this is,
this is, we need to rebuild recover,
but you know, there's an active component to that.
Either one done too much is unhealthy.
And it's oversimplified when you hear meet heads talk
about, you know, sympathetic,
parasympathetic, of course, supplement companies try to, you know, sell you shit on this,
like, you know, this activates the parasympathetic.
Yeah, and it's got like camomel in it or something like that or something relaxing a
melatonin.
And, you know, this is sympathetic and it's, you know, pre-workout with that.
Although I do, I do see value in like focusing on trying to achieve
like certain levels of parasympathetic state
because we just all day long.
I mean, especially if you're somebody who's in there.
Yeah, very high-strong, high-stress.
Like I know that's a common theme these days
with people and like just being so plugged in
and you know, in their job and their family,
their relationships, like whatever,
everything that's going on, they don't take that time to really, you know, in their job and their family, their relationships, like whatever everything that's going on,
they don't take that time to really, you know,
bring their levels down.
Yes, but it's way too simplified.
So let me explain, okay.
I've been in stressful situations, life circumstances,
and I could be sitting still or laying down on the couch,
extreme sympathetic state.
I'm not even moving, but because I'm stressed out
and it's in my mind and I'm being mental about something,
I'm very stressed out.
I've also done very physical activities.
I've gone hiking and challenging hikes
out in the woods where I'm active as fuck,
very parasympathetic, relaxed.
I'm with nature, my mind is very present.
So it's just oversimplified.
And some of it has to do with activity, sure,
but most of it has to do with your mental state.
And you can make almost anything
parasympathetic or sympathetic.
Well, I think that's the true value of meditation
is to be able to find that mental state.
And you can still be active and do things, but like training your mind to be able to find that mental state and you can still be active and do things
but like training your mind to be able to access it.
Totally.
I've been in situations like with my kids
that are very sympathetic or parasympathetic
regardless of what doesn't matter what we're doing.
And it's my mental state,
like am I being stressed out right now or whatever,
or am I in the moment being with my children totally.
And so that's what you need to pay attention to.
And if you're a neurotic, anxious individual,
or that's your tendency, that's my tendency.
My tendency is to be a little neurotic, a little bit anxious.
So I'm constantly working on my mindset.
It's not so much the activities that I'm doing.
It's more so the mindset, regardless of the activity,
because I can turn anything, all of us can do this.
It can turn anything into a parasympathetic or sympathetic state.
So, activity is, that's why I mean by it's oversimplified.
So, when you hear people talk about this, realize you probably don't have a full understanding over how to access this.
It's something you need to practice quite a bit.
And it's not as easy as just like,
oh, I worked out today. Rest of the day now, I'm going to be, you know, you can, you can try hard
at meditating and make that shit sympathetic. You could sit there fucking or I need to meditate
and it becomes something that's, you know, sympathetic state. Next question is from John Dick.
Is online training worth getting into at this time or is it saturated?
Well, Dick, I think that it's hard.
Yeah.
Yes, Dick joke.
You know, I definitely don't think it's I don't think it's over saturated because there's
a lot of room for good online coaching and training.
It's got to be thegrowing segment of training.
Right.
And the unfortunate part that I see is you see a lot of people doing that first before
coaching in person.
And I just think that such a good point.
I just think that that is the true direction that you should go first.
If you're gonna become a really good online coach,
I feel like it's almost necessary that you first become a good in-person coach so that when you're
trying to do this virtually, you've got a track record of cases that you've already done that you
can go like, oh, that's okay, I've dealt with this before. I know when someone says this to me or
they ask these types of questions, they're probably feeling this or challenged with that. I mean, I think of like when I dabbled in
it, I had already been a trainer for well over 10 years with lots of clients that I trained.
If it wasn't for all that experience, I don't know how good of a online coach I would
have been because that's what made me good at it was I was able to go like every question
or every concern or situation that I ran into virtually, I recalled that type of a situation before with many clients in
person and I knew the things that worked to help them out or I could ask the right questions
that led me down because clients rarely ever know like clients say things like, yeah, when
I do this, I feel it here.
Like what is that?
And you can't see that.
Like, if you can't see them actually doing the movement
and then they're trying to articulate
at what they feel, many times they're just,
they don't, they don't even know what's going on.
And it's really tough for you to take that
and then know how to coach to it without being
all the recall, like, oh, you know what,
when clients feel it like this, they say this a lot,
that's probably what she's feeling or he's feeling,
and then you have good answers.
If you haven't acquired enough of that data,
like you can't figure it out,
like it's gonna be really tough for you.
You have to have that predictive component
to bring into online training for sure.
Otherwise, yeah, I think that it's gonna be super generalized,
which you could get away with for a while.
But the types of people that are going to keep signing up, it's going to start getting
more and more complex, more variables are going to get thrown at you.
So if you really want to succeed with it, not just have it as a surface thing, you're
going to have to go and do the in-person training for sure.
Yeah, I highly recommend.
Yeah, one of the values of in-person personal training
is that, you know, when you're with someone
as a personal trainer in-person,
you have typically an hour, sometimes longer,
to be just with that person.
Not only that, but you're also doing exercises
and relatively appropriately,
a strenuous activity.
Now that has a, and you're meeting with them every week.
Now that has an amazing ability to get people open up.
It's incredible how people will open up to you
and communicate to you because they're strening
and working hard and they've seen you
twice a week now for just a month.
So then you can start to get deeper and what you end up finding is you didn't tell me that
during the assessment.
That's not how you communicated it before.
You start to learn more about these clients.
Now you can't do that with online training.
So if you don't have years of experience of situation after situation Good luck
Understanding how to coach at least an effective way to coach online clients. I think it happened
You know, I can't say like you'll tell you'll you'll ask someone this happens all the time
You'll ask someone hey, how's your sleep? Oh, it's good now if I don't ask how many times a night do you wake up?
Do you dream? Do you wake up rested like I have to ask more and more questions and then I start to realize you don't have
good sleep.
You say you have good sleep, I don't know.
I mean how many times have you had somebody like you do the park you, everything you asked
about previous history with injuries and all that.
And then you get them to move like, oh yeah, well there's that one time when I broke my
ankle and you know, like you didn't write that down, but it doesn't bother me anymore.
Yeah, I think it's a big deal.
Yeah, you need to, if you're gonna be a good,
effective online coach, and from my personal opinion is,
you need at least three to five years
of personal training experience.
If you're gonna hire an online coach,
you need to ask them, how long did you do personal training
for in person?
And if it was less than like three to five years, they're not going to be good. I'm just going to
say, unless they're just, unless you just want someone to give you macros. But if they went to
shreds Academy, you know, or they're a beach body coach. The truth is there's a, there's a major
money grab happening right now for that because you online coaching people can undercut big time
private training, right? Private training is ranging anywhere from $75 to $250 an hour
for private personal training,
where some people are charging that
for a month worth of virtual coaching,
which this is what it reminds me of the group training,
you know, craze that we had.
Everybody went nuts when that happened because,
oh wow, I can feel like I'm getting a personal trainer,
but I really am not having to pay some money.
Yeah, and so you're seeing the same thing
with this virtual coaching, and you know,
there's probably people that are listening right now
that are actually having decent success
with being an online coach without any sort of training
experience, and that's just because the market's demanding
it right now.
So many people are willing to try out a virtual coach
for 150 people.
That's a good point.
It is saturated, but it's not saturated
with good coaches here.
Yeah, so I think there's plenty of room for you to shine
if you put in the work going into it.
Yeah, but definitely not something that you should do
without experience.
And for those of you listening who are gonna hire a coach,
you know, we're the consumers, so we control this market,
and you will help weed out the people who probably
shouldn't be doing online coaching,
by not hiring people who don't have that level of experience.
It's just, and I know I'm being general right now,
I'm sure there's online coaches out there
with little personal training experience who may be good,
maybe spend a lot of time. I don't know, but generally speaking, I think this is pretty true.
So personal training experience first before ever doing online training.
And then at that point, I think the market is quite open for good online coaches,
because so far what I've seen is 9 out of 10 of them suck.
Next question is from Barbels and Boxing Gloves.
What causes the mental crash people get post-competition?
What are the ways to cope with it?
This is a very common psychological phenomenon
that I've experienced at myself that happens
any time you accomplish a big goal.
This is how it's characterized.
You're working hard consistently for months, maybe years, lots of sacrifice, months or maybe
even years towards a specific goal.
You identify with accomplishing this goal.
You identify with how this goal is going to make your life
much better, and it can be a competition,
it can be an amount of money,
it can be that you're gonna get married and have kids,
it can be a business,
but I'm gonna tell you something right now,
when you get there, it's never as...
Mark Manson talked about this.
Yes, remember in his episode,
I don't know if he had a term for what that was called,
but he even talked about that when his book went.
There's a psychological, there's a name for it, it's a phenomenon.
Yeah, I thought he, I thought he referred to it when he talked about even going through
it himself, you know, becoming a New York Times best seller and selling a bajillion of those
books.
It's because nothing is, as nothing will drive you and give you as much purpose as the
wanting.
Having is never gonna drive you to give you purpose like the wanting.
So wanting to be a millionaire is gonna give you much more purpose than being a millionaire.
Now I got all this money, oh fuck, what do I do now?
Especially if you identify with the pursuit of it.
Like what do I do now?
You know who suffers terribly from this?
Olympic athletes.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that falls in the same categories as competitors.
I mean, you put so much time and effort into this
and you envision this, wow, I can't wait to get to this point
and get this competition and prove to myself I can do it.
And then you kind of get there.
And it's a real quick high because you're up on stage
for, I don't know,
a grand total of 10 minutes or less,
of like your stage time,
whether you get a trophy or not, whatever,
and then it's kind of like, okay, it's over.
And what happens, a lot of people swing the other way,
really hard, you know, they go from super restrictive
because they've been that way for so long,
they accomplished their goal,
it's really easy to justify going the other direction
because you're like, fuck it.
I'm in the best shape of my life.
I could totally fuck off for a week and still be fine.
And so you totally go back the other direction.
And so you get this kind of,
and so I bet there's something that's happening
even on a nutritional level,
like over saturating the body full of stuff too.
Like it's just, you lost that sense of purpose,
and so then you essentially feel empty.
Because I experienced this in Jiu-Jitsu,
the first competition I ever did,
I was training consistently,
but I was still more focused on lifting weights,
and I did my first competition, and I lost.
I lost my first match, and it fucking drove me.
I had this sense of like, I'm gonna fucking win
the next time I compete.
And so I dedicated more time to training,
stopped lifting as much weight,
focused more on stuff that would make me better at Jiu-Jitsu,
and I entered into a large competition,
and I got first place, didn't even get scored,
a point on me, and it was literally the next day I felt empty. I felt like this
like I lost a drive and now what like who am I and what am I? Oh, yeah. You know, this
is the atheist argument for God. You know that right? So atheists talk about why in many
religions God is depicted as this perfect example because when people
strive to be
like God and perfect, they never ever actually achieve it.
No, but it keeps you driving towards it.
Yes, it keeps you driving, it gives you that sense of purpose
and you're always, you'll never get to the other side of it
because nobody's.
It's a model, it's not supposed to be achieved.
Right, yeah, so yeah, I totally, like, subscribed to that on some level.
I went through this same process even from football.
I knew it was my last game.
I knew, like, all these years and things.
It got me into college.
It got me all these accolades and all this stuff.
And then I loved the workouts.
That was my favorite part of the training for it and the improvement
and getting better on the field and all that. And then it stopped and it ended and I took
probably six months off and I didn't work out and I was like, I found myself depressed
and I'm like, what the hell's going on? Because I didn't have any driving force for me
to even get into the gym. And I know that like a lot of athletes, they go through this
and it becomes like a transitional
period of depression and like how do I, how do I dig myself up?
And you have to learn how to sort of be predictive in terms of like, okay, how am I going to set
myself up for success?
Once I achieve these certain things and keep reinventing myself and be open to evolving
still.
That's why most athletes,
I mean, how many athletes, ex athletes,
did you guys train that were in their fifties
that were in terrible condition?
I mean, once you have no longer have the sport
to be training for, you go the complete opposite.
You just go way over.
Or you get the...
Or you get the client who,
the only sense of purpose they have
is training for an event and they
sign up for marathon after marathon after event after event and you're like you need to take
a break your body needs to take a break but they're like no I need to have that goal.
Now here's in my experience here's the key to dealing with this.
Realize and fall in love with the process and not the goal.
Even if you're going towards a goal, realize that the fun part and the good part is the
process.
That's where you get the learning, that's the struggle, that's the purpose.
And then here's what will happen.
You'll get to your goal and yes, you're not going to get the same like, I did it, but
you're also not going to get the afterwards, what do I do now?
It's just like, oh, it's all about the process.
In fact, when I first started lifting weights
because I was driven by insecurities,
it was all about getting buffed, getting big or whatever.
Now I enjoy the process and I don't care.
If I get bigger, I don't care.
I mean, it's cool, it's cool part of it,
but I like the process so much,
and that's why I'll never stop.
So you have to kind of,
it's funny, there was a study that I read the other day,
I forgot where it was published.
I think it was psychology type today.
And they were talking about how humans are not wired
to be happy.
We're not wired to always be happy,
because evolutionarily speaking, if we ever had
gotten to the point where we were ultimately content happy that we would lose the drive to seek
food, shelter, and to progress. And so the reality is the key to life is to find struggle and purpose.
Happiness happens here and there, but it's not a last knowledge.
It's not a logic, but yeah. Same thing with motivation.
It's not there forever. No, it's not here last-knowledge it, but yeah. Same thing with motivation. Not there forever.
No, it's not here.
So you got to kind of just accept all of it.
Otherwise, you're going to get into it.
You're going to find yourself in a very shitty situation if you ever accomplish your goal.
And that's, I think, one of the reasons why you see the depression, the drug abuse, the
suicide rates of celebrities, because they get everything.
The rich, famous access to drugs and sex and money
and people telling them how fucking awesome they are
and they sit in their mansions and they're fucking miserable
and they kill themselves because they didn't figure this out.
Next question is from Unavace 84.
Are you guys going to do another challenge
with the Mind Pump Crew?
It's a great question to follow, that one up.
Did you pick that one up?
Not so great.
We are due for something like that.
It's been a while since we've done
something fun and competitive.
I'd be down to do something.
Yeah, I just like, I don't know, for me personally,
I know some of the people I've talked to you about
when we do these challenges.
They just like, you know, when we start getting after each other.
And I think it's just kind of fun to-
We don't need a challenge for that.
Yeah, well that's what I mean.
It doesn't have to be like something in an event or like,
it definitely is not going to be another fucking transformation body thing.
Yeah, so we've done a million of those things.
Well, I just threw out a mobility strength thing on Instagram,
so let's see, come get that shit.
That's not as easy as it may have looked in that post I did.
I don't like easy at all.
I should look hella hard.
You jumped up to a pistol squat and then one leg at the other.
Barefoot and then grabbing a pair of dumbbells.
Fuck that.
Scratch your foot a bunch of times trying to do it.
Yeah, when I was doing it on the grass first, and I did, my left foot's all tore up from doing that. Just scratch your foot a bunch of times when I do it. Yeah, when I was doing it on the grass, doing it on the grass first.
And I did, my left foot's all tore up from doing that.
I thoroughly enjoy competing against people who are,
like you guys, we can do it, we talk shit,
we take it seriously.
So it's not like nobody's not taking it seriously.
But what I enjoy so far the most is that when we challenge ourselves as a group, I love
it when we either pick something that we want to do or this is our task or this is our goal.
And then we all go towards it.
That's to me, that's most fun.
I was thinking about that because running and doing little stupid parkour shit in Denver,
I was like, super cast, dude.
It's not just, I can't blame it just on the altitude.
I am not in any kind of cardiovascular condition.
Yeah.
So I was like, I don't think I could sell them
on a cardiovascular challenge,
but if I could, I would throw my hat in there
because I'm ready to start getting down
and doing some conditioning.
The only reason why you wouldn't get me on that right now
is because I just made the transition away
from swimming because of that,
because I saw what it was doing to my physique
and I was like,
I'm enjoying this,
turning into a plane.
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely more of a balance.
Like, I think that, I mean, I still enjoy getting the pull
and swimming some laps, but I was getting really competitive
with it, getting better and better and better
and, you know, was taking over my training.
And, yes, I'm healthy and in great shape
and in much better cardiovascular shape than what I was.
Felt great, but, you know but I also care about my aesthetics.
I do care about filling out my t-shirts
and I like to feel strong and I like those things.
And so I transitioned away from swimming as much
and got really back into training again
because it's still my first love
is to still be able to build a physique.
I enjoy that.
So to try and get me right now,
to go competitive on endurance running
and training right now would be really difficult,
just because I just transitioned away from that.
I mean, to be honest, the reason why we really motivated us
to do that competition when we did it in a while ago,
in the first place, because it motivates the audience,
people like to be a part of it,
and gets them to do stuff.
And to me, this is also why I'm a little bit apprehensive,
because it's the cheap trick of the fitness industry.
Exactly.
30-day transformation,
60-day transformation, join us and do that.
Well, I know, and then we don't wanna feed into that,
mentality, we just talk about in the last question,
you know, of getting people just all about,
it's all about having to have these challenges
and events stacked up throughout their years
to drive them in their workouts.
But I think that it might be fun,
if maybe they put some suggestions out there for us
that were like cool, unique and just into the mood.
I can tell you.
I want to do something that I love.
Yeah, look what it is though.
Well, yeah, I'm down to see what the form has to say.
I mean, I feel like I've been kind of doing that.
I mean, I did the squat and scroll thing, which I've been loving the response that people
are sharing with me that are working towards that.
I think that's a very good goal for all of us to have is to be able to do that.
That's like daily stuff.
Yeah, that's just habitual thing.
Yeah, but that's just not easy for a lot of people.
There's not a lot of people that can't do that, bro.
Yeah, that's what I That's just like, sure it is.
Like walking. Yeah, it's not as, I mean, it's for you who's put emphasis on mobility for
a long time that may come pretty natural for you, but I mean, I had to work really hard
for a long time to get to that point. So I mean, I think, and I think that's the type
of stuff too right now that is, uh, combats a lot think that's the type of stuff too, right now, that is combats
a lot of what's going on, what we see in the younger generation coming up right now
with tech and the computers and the iPads and the iPhones.
Like, man, you watched real soon here as simple as that little move is, sitting down in a
squat position and on your phone, I bet you fucking a very small percentage of 20-year-olds
can do that right now, which is crazy to me to think at 20.
Yeah, but you're right.
To have lost that mobility to do that.
And even the ones that I'm sharing,
there's, I mean, in myself,
like I still got a lot of work to do
on my thoracic mobility.
I'm just not, I'm not all the way there.
I'm not at a point where I've got that
a Olympic lifter looking squat yet
where I'm really upright in my
torso.
I just don't have, I'm still not.
So that's where my focus is and work constantly.
I'm non-stop still working on that because I want to continue to improve.
So that's a challenge.
I know it's not like a start, stop, race thing and it's something that probably takes a lot
longer to put some effort into.
But I think that's a really good thing
to see people working towards right now.
And I love all the feedback and all the people
that are doing the squat and scroll right now.
Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
I think it's a good thing to share in practice
and it's not like you say a start, stop competition.
Again, it's just,
but Justin, I'm down to whoop your ass at something.
So bring it, motherfucker.
Yes, so let's let somebody throw some shit out there.
Street fighter.
We'll see.
Hey, we all played Street Fighter as kids.
We gotta get it.
All of it here.
All of us played Street Fighter as kids.
And I'll put this challenge out right now.
I'll beat you with any character.
You pick my character.
And I'll be just Street Fighter.
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