Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1101: Budget Sleep Hacks, Favorite Row Variations for Strength & Muscle Growth, Characteristics of People Who Adhere to Their Fitness & Health Goals & MORE
Episode Date: August 21, 2019In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about favorite row variations for strength and hypert...rophy, characteristics or qualities that separate people who adhere to their fitness goals and health behaviors compared to those who don’t, the best investments to make to “sleep hack” on a budget, and influencers promoting an "all in" diet approach. Sal recaps his grandfather's 88th birthday: Large family gatherings, nootropics & MORE. (5:14) Will taxing red meat save lives and slow global warming?? The importance of looking at the whole picture. (12:02) Harvard Medical School receives $9M dollar donation to support independent research on the science of cannabinoids. Guys’ talk the benefits and let you know the best products to use. (19:52) Does fatherhood change your brain? New study + the latest updates from Adam on baby Maximus. (26:53) How Disneyworld still has a nuclear permit to build a plant. (41:36) The scam and hustle behind free car giveaways & MORE. (43:27) Mind Pump Live & Mike Matthews: Get your tickets NOW to pick his business brain! (46:21) #Quah question #1 – What are your favorite row variations for strength, hypertrophy, etc.? (49:31) #Quah question #2 – What characteristics or qualities do you think separate people who adhere to their fitness goals and health behaviors compared to those who don’t? Did you ever notice common traits in the clients you trained? (58:53) #Quah question #3 – For people trying to sleep hack on a budget, what are the best investments to make? (1:07:13) #Quah question #4 – I've been seeing a lot of this “all in” approach. Influencers are claiming they're doing it to gain control over extreme hunger and eventually get their body to a plateau to where their body is supposed to be naturally. (1:15:09) People Mentioned Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf) Instagram Brendon Ayanbadejo (@brendon310) Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere) Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness) Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness) Instagram Tom Bilyeu (@tombilyeu) Instagram Bedros Keuilian (@bedroskeuilian) Instagram Christina Rice, NTP (@christinaricewellness) Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** Visit Four Sigmatic for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Governments around the world are considering taxing red meat like tobacco in an effort to curb climate change $9 million donation earmarked for cannabis research Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Fatherhood changes men's brains and minds, studies show How Becoming a Father Changes Your Brain Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** Disney World Could Have Gone Nuclear "We entered a free car giveaway — and, uh…" - The Hustle Check out Mind Pump Live to get tickets for their next live event! Mind Pump TV - YouTube Power Sled Pull – Mind Pump TV How To T-Bar Row The Right Way! (BACK BUILDER!) Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! influencers are losing their influence Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows, study says Mind Pump Free Resources
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question, this person wants to know what our favorite row variations are for strength, hypertrophy,
and performance. There's a lot of different rows that you can do out there.
Which ones are our favorites?
A boat row.
The next question, this person wants to know,
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that separates people who are super consistent,
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So yesterday was my grandfathers 88th birthday 88. What do you do for an 88?
Birthday, uh, yeah, we had you know strippers
No, it's just you know it's funny. So you're good grandson. We yeah
Hey, no, no
Oh, no
Straight hard attack no, we we went up to my aunt's house because she hosted his birthday party and I would say probably
Of the people that live in the Bay Area, Sacramento area, probably one third of
my family showed up.
Did you guys see the pictures in the video?
Oh, I have a ton of people there.
Yeah, so I show up and you know, Jessica is starting to get used to now my family functions,
but we have other new family members that have come into the family.
We're dating.
Poor girl.
Every time there's 10 new people for her.
Well, no, no, that's not what it is.
We have like my cousin.
I think it is that way for her to though.
I know it is.
I'm sure.
Yeah, yeah.
But my cousins, like, you just got engaged
and my other cousins dating someone.
And so these are new girls that are coming in.
My sister has a boyfriend that she's been dating
for a year and I'll learn all the stuff.
Yeah, so I hear them.
We all have this conversation about,
because then on the way home,
I'm driving home my cousin and her boyfriend.
And Jessica and my cousins' boyfriend,
who are both obviously outside of the family coming in,
start talking about what it's like
to come to our family functions.
So if you go on my InstaStory,
you'll see the line for food,
which went through my aunt's entire house.
It literally went through my aunt's whole house.
And then there was a big picture at the end
when my grandfather and everybody that showed up.
And it's just, I think we've probably had,
I don't know, 70 people, 60, 70 people.
Wow, it's so crazy.
Yeah, it's just an insane amount of people.
And they were talking about the noise
and all the different people.
And how you have to say hi to everybody.
You gotta say bye to everybody.
And I'm just used to it.
But it's funny when I post the video,
people are commenting and they're like,
dude, that's insane. I'm like, that's like a third. Yeah. That's not everybody.
This is like Katrina's family and it's so, it's as the partner.
It's why I feel for Jess totally. Like I totally feel for her because here I am, I'm approaching,
we're gonna hit nine years this year, right? So we're coming up, Katrina and I, November-ish,
we're coming up on nine years. Yeah. Yeah.
You like I did it?
Yeah. Sometimes you have a little room. Yeah.
So around nine. It's more than six years.
Yeah.
Depending how you count, you know, like so.
So yeah, coming around in this November, so we'll hit nine. And I think
I'm just, I could probably score a 90% on a test
if we had all the pictures of the family members
and I had all the names on the side
and I could pair them like that.
I think I'm just now probably at a point
where I could score 90%.
But I still don't even think I could ace the test
if I had to like name every.
Well how many people come to functions?
Like would you say number wise?
When you go to a big function.
When a big family function, like so like,
and her family is like yours,
where they get together for almost anything, right?
So I would consider like an 88th birthday
would be a big function.
Yeah, that's a big function for them.
Or like a major graduation, like when they're,
you know, Jasmine graduated from Santa Clara College.
Like that was, I don't know,
probably about 120 people.
Oh yeah, so you guys, and it's all like family and cousins.
It's not friends.
Everyone is fucking somehow related.
You know, so, and it just every time I go to a new one,
it's like, you know, a new part of a family
that I didn't realize.
Oh no, that's so-and-so's wife and they were,
you know, together before and they had two or three kids.
Do you do this thing where you're like,
hey, it's nice to meet you.
You're not very nice to meet you.
They're like, we met last time.
Yes.
Happens to it all the time.
All the time.
I knew that all the time.
No, my grandfather does this thing now
because he's, you know, he's older.
He's 88 years old.
Good health though.
He's strong like a horse.
But he's getting up there in age.
So now every time we have a big family function,
he's always like, hey, get all the boys together.
Come here.
And then we all have to take a big picture.
This is the last picture we'll all take together.
Every time he says that.
Every time.
It's all dramatic about this.
And then he does this weird reminiscing thing.
Like, you know, it's gonna be when I die,
you guys are all gonna fight over who gets to carry my casket.
I'm like, no, no, what the f-
That's a terrible thing to think about.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
But he does this thing, it's the last time we're gonna.
Anyway, I have a lot of family members that are investors.
And actually, all the guys in my age group
are in that space or either professionally
or it's like their favorite hobby.
Like even my cousins who, you know,
have a cousin that is, he's in the tech space
and he's actually a big shot in this big company,
but he loves it too.
So when we all get together,
it ends up turning into this like,
you know, how you invest and what you're gonna buy
and where you're gonna put your money.
And that's cool.
I like that conversation too,
but I get kind of bored of it for a little while.
So I'm like trying to throw in my whole thing.
So I'm like, hey, you guys ever use like Neutropics and stuff?
Or to help you guys like pick?
And they all got excited, right?
Because they're like, yeah, what's good?
Like I drink coffee, I fast, this and that.
So I'm like, Lions, man.
You over here pitching forciastic on them.
I can just see your ass.
100%.
No, so here's what.
That's the big opportunity.
No, so here's what was kind of cool.
I started talking about Lions, man, and how, you know, especially when you combine it with caffeine, or even on its own, how it's what- That's a big opportunity. No, so here's what was kind of cool. I started talking about Lyons main and how,
you know, especially when you combine it with caffeine,
or even on its own, how it's been shown to improve,
you know, mental function and health or whatever.
Well anyway, one of my cousins is like,
oh dude, he goes, me and a couple of my other investor buddies,
that's the main supplement that we take.
Oh, I-
Did not even know.
Oh, that's interesting.
That they took, yeah, Lyons main.
Now did you ask you if they're,
did you tell them that we have four sigmatic
or they're taking something else? They take four sigmatic. Oh, they do. Yes, but here him if they're, did you tell them that we have four sigmatic or are you taking something else?
They take four sigmatic.
Oh, they do.
Yes, but here's the infuriating part.
What?
You think they use our code?
So you don't get no credit for that.
Yeah, so you know what I mean guys?
He had just ordered some, right?
I took his phone and I said,
he's your phone and I emailed four sigmatic for his phone.
And I'm like, hey, I'm a huge buying pump pen.
I forgot to use the code.
It's please a few fuckers.
I forgot that's a big thing in Silicon Valley,
like even just like,
just, I mean, you're in the tech world.
Like there's a lot of people that are in the new tropics still.
It's a big thing.
I mean, Silicon Valley is what started the whole
Neutropics really took off here.
Anything that improves mental function,
the use of, you know, elicit substance is even, like microdosing LSD, stuff like that,
was big in Silicon Valley. But he was telling me that Lyon's main is the new, that's the big one
that a lot of guys are using now to help them be, because these guys are, when they're trading,
it's a game, man. They're sitting there. I've shown you guys picture hyper focus. I've shown you guys pictures. My my my my brothers
Matrix do my brother's desk has five computer screens
Yeah, and it looks like like the matrix remember when they're looking at the computer scheme and he's like oh, I can see what's
I don't understand any yeah looks like a bunch of lines and dots. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they're looking at
It's freaking crazy
Oh, hey, did you get a chance to answer? I saw this on Rob Woof now,
is what posted about it.
And I also saw our good buddy,
Brendan had commented on one of our last episodes.
He really enjoyed the conversation
that we had around the Impossible Burger.
And one of the things, to the article
that just came out, there's an article
that just came out about them potentially trying to tax beef,
right, to discourage people from buying red meat and the angle is the environmental angle,
which is also the same angle that Brendan was also saying that we forgot to mention on the
last podcast. And I told him, I said, you know, I thought I could have sworn that,
sound, you address this before, or I don't know if this is an off-air conversation that we were having with one of our other friends, but I've been told that that's been debunked.
Yeah, it's hard to filter out propaganda with like real solid statistics, you know, around
this subject.
I don't know where it even goes.
It's so oversimplified.
Well, two things.
First off, they, any excuse to add a tax, if they see that there's public
support behind a cause of some sort, then they can, and they can attach a tax to it. They
will, because it's a great way for them to make money. So taxing red meat, because it's
good for the environment, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. They just want to get more of your
money. That's not, that's not what, in fact, taxing red meat sounds better than taxing you for your gas usage.
People get pissed off at that, but they're like,
we're a tax red meat.
And then you go, oh yeah, those poor animals,
and we need to eat less red meat.
And it's better to think, no, it's bullshit.
Just the way to raise taxes.
As far as the environmental concerns are concerned,
they don't, you have to look at the whole big picture.
What they do is they look at a very small part of the picture
and say, oh, there's a less of a carbon footprint here,
therefore, it's better for the environment.
It's not true, you gotta look at the whole picture
and economists and mathematicians who've actually
looked at the entire thing, find that at most,
you're looking at a few percent reduction in know, reduction in carbon output, but what they
don't factor in is this. And this is a big one. Now, my expertise is in fitness and health.
Okay. The average person is completely ignorant when it comes to nutrition and diet. Would
you guys not agree? Right. The average person is ignorant when it comes to diet. If you're
going to start pushing this agenda of going vegan because it's good for the environment and you have all these average people who don't
even pay attention to the nutrition to begin with, now we're like, well, I'm just going
to eat only vegan products is good for the environment. You're going to end up with a lot of nutrient
deficiencies in health health problems because a vegan diet, if it's going to be done healthy,
and if it's going to be long term and improved longevity and be healthy,
it has to be very well planned.
You have to have a very well planned vegan diet.
Vigants who are long-term vegans know this.
If we get one on the podcast, they'll admit.
You don't just go vegan, you're gonna end up having
a shit ton of nutrient deficiencies.
And so think of the cost that's gonna have
on medical costs, or health costs, and society,
and how much of a strain is that going to be on the environment and the economy.
But they don't even look at that.
They just look at the perfect vegan diet versus the average American diet.
That's how it will work.
Derek, didn't they even break down like the gases that are emitted from the cows and
all that, and they compared it to, okay, let's say that produces X amount of meat that would
produce X amount of burgers.
Now let's do this burger that is all made from,
you know, all these other random weird things, right?
In vegetables and shit like that, it's all inside this.
How many fields would have to be tilled?
How many tractors that should?
That's when you look at the whole picture.
That's what I'm saying, like,
didn't they do this where they figured that out
and they go like, well, when you factor in
how many more fields that you would have to till
to produce that many burgers that would replace real meat
and the tractors that drove to do that,
the animals, the insects, the things that were killed
in order to create that, you're talking about,
you know, literally splitting hairs on the difference
on which ones better for the environment.
And again, we have to consider this.
The most important thing to understand and consider
is what are the health costs that people are going to have?
Now I'm not talking, because you can't compare a well planned vegan diet to the average
American diet.
That's not apples to apples.
The average American diet, if a person follows that diet who's ignorant to nutrition,
switches to vegan, they're going to be because now they're gonna have nutrient deficiencies
because the truth is the most nutrient dense foods
on the planet are meat.
I've seen this too, I watched my cousin switch over
because of that, what the health documentary?
Like I hadn't seen her since that.
I come and we're eating dinner one.
It was like actually Thanksgiving the year before, whatever.
And you know, she has become, you know, a vegan,
I don't know where I'm just like, huh?
And it was all because of documentary,
so she's just not choosing me.
But then she's not also planning her day
on what she should be consuming and eating,
and then she ends up having this iron deficiency later on.
It's like, well, there you go.
And how expensive will that be?
What's that for?
It's not that easy.
You just don't just cut meat out, and you're okay.
You're cutting out one of the most nutrient-dense foods
in your diet, and if you're not somebody
who's willing to put the work in and figure out,
okay, now that I'm, it's not as simple as just protein.
Everybody thinks it's that.
It's not just a protein argument.
No, there's nutrients that are essential,
that are largely found mostly,
and some almost only found in animal products of meat.
In fact, even smart, well-planned vegans,
oftentimes, when they've been vegan long enough,
oftentimes still have to supplement.
They still have to add supplements
or eat vegan foods that are heavily fortified
with vitamins and minerals,
with certain vitamins and minerals.
So this is a real situation.
I mean, the truth is is veganism would not even exist
if we didn't have modern farming
and the ability to go to the grocery store
and have tons and tons of variety.
Now I'm not saying don't go vegan.
I'm just saying if you go vegan, first off,
you better know what the fuck you're doing
because just going vegan, I can 100% guarantee
you're gonna end up with a nutrient efficiency over time.
Mess up your hormones, have terrible health.
And look, there's bad health that comes from just
eating a bad diet.
And then there's bad health that comes from
a nutrient deficiency.
Which one do you think is more acute?
You know what I mean?
You deal with like a vitamin B deficiency
or an iron deficiency or a vitamin D deficiency
or whatever.
That's like acute.
You know what I mean?
You can get away with kind of eating a shitty
typical American diet for 15, 20 years.
You have a nutrient deficiency, hair falls out,
nails start to get all weird, hormones are all over the place,
you lose your period, you're a man,
you're not producing sperm anymore, testosterone drops,
like all kinds of things happen.
So you gotta have be well planned.
So you're gonna tell a bunch of average,
you know, American dieters or eaters or whatever. Hey, everybody who don't know anything about nutrition
to begin with now stop eating meat because it's better
for the environment and you sell them on that
and you have all these food manufacturers that are
processing vegan foods that they taste good.
So now they have no excuse like, well,
the impossible burger tastes just like me.
I heard it's better for your environment.
Well, vegetable farms aren't good for the environment either.
No, no, I mean, there's always an impact and again
If you count all of it out, there's there it's not it's not max look of ears fielding this right now, too
I mean this is max is taking on an onslaught right now Rob is taking an onslaught right now
It's this thing is growing. It's getting legs like crazy as far as like everybody is jumping on the bandwagon with this impossible burger
It's it's insane dude. Smart investment, you wanna make some money
because it's fucking winning right now.
It's blowing my mind though,
how many people are being fucking fooled by it?
If you make something that tastes really, really good
and you sell the notion that it's better,
like cruelty free.
Yeah, like it's better for the environment,
you're not killing any animals
and it's better for your body,
but it also tastes really fucking good.
You got everything covered.
You got a blockbuster right there.
I don't care what your product is, you know what I mean?
Anyway, it's crazy.
Oh, here's something interesting.
I just read this the other day.
So apparently this happened this year.
Harvard Medical School got a $4.5 million,
I think grant to study specifically to study cannabinoids.
What?
Yeah, so very cool.
So, they're going to use this money specifically just to study cannabinoids.
And in particular, their applications for health, and they're also going to study why cannabinoids
and in particular, THC might have a negative effect on the adolescent brain, because there's
some studies to show that.
When kids use a lot of THC,
that they have a permanent reduction in their IQ
and the increase their risk of mental disorders
like the schizophrenia.
What are your thoughts right now?
I'm seeing this more and more in our space.
We have friends that are connected to us
that are speaking out on cannabis.
And I understand, because I think we've talked out on it a few times too, that it's turning
into, you know, everybody's pixie dusting, you know, cannabis and every product that's
out there.
And I don't know, I feel like they're doing more harm than they are good, right?
Because now what's happening is now it's turning into this debate of, you know, is CBD worth
anything at all?
Or is it just, it's the next bullshit supplement that's out there
that's got way more hype than what it's really doing
as far as benefits to people.
And there's some people in the space
that are shitting on it.
And then there's other people in the space
that are promoting it for everything.
And so, what are your thoughts on where this is going to go?
Do you think that it's going to continue to be something that is used by the masses?
Do you think it's going to be for specific people only like what do you foresee?
I well CBD as of right now has some actual medicinal applications, but they're not super numerous. So
We have yet to see studies that show that CBD does everything that all these people promise, like post-workout recovery and, you know, does this for sleep and does this for
that?
We don't have any evidence to support that first.
I think the bubble is still going to blow up though.
I don't think it's going to pop.
It's going to keep growing because CBD is connected to cannabis.
Cannabis is becoming more and more legal.
Sounds cool.
Sort of putting in everything, ice cream and burgers and whatever.
The science that we currently have, those shows that cannabinoids are better when they're
all present.
So if you want to get the, and the analytical effects, for example, of cannabinoids, it's
better to take, to use something that's an extract from the plant, whether it be cannabis
or hemp, because the cannabinoids seem to work better together.
They call it the entourage effect.
In fact, if this is something you're interested in, you can actually Google cannabinoid entourage
effect, and you'll see that if they compare individual cannabinoids to cannabinoids in the
presence of other cannabinoids, for whatever they're comparing them to, whether it's even
THC, even the illegal cannabinoid, the federally illegal one, THC.
THC makes you high, makes you,
you can make you feel euphoric and giggly and all that stuff.
If you combine THC with other cannabinoids,
it improves all those effects
and it reduces all the negative effects.
It's like paranoia, short-term memory loss effects.
Those all decline because CBD, CBG, CBC, you know, and all the
other myriad of cannabinoids are present.
And there's a lot of them.
There's, I know of at least a dozen, but there's more.
There's also benefits that come from the, and this is both the hemp plant and the cannabis
plant, the marijuana plant.
There's also benefits that come from the terpines that are found in these plants.
And the turpines are what give the plants their smell. So like, and if you go...
This is what turned us on to dosos, I remember that.
Yeah, I remember that.
Because they're one of the few companies that we saw that were even messing with talking about the turpines.
Yeah, so like, when you go to a cannabis shop and you open up the little jars and you smell them and some
of them will smell like skunk, some of them smell like pine or diesel gasoline or like
a fruity kind of smell.
All those smells come from terpenes and what they're finding is that the terpenes change
how your body uses the cannabinoids and they may actually play a bigger role than we thought.
So if you're gonna use cannabinoids
and you're gonna use them in ways that are therapeutic,
first off, I would stay away from THC
unless the THC is what's helping you.
So unless you're like depressed
and you need it for those types of things.
But I would stay from,
with stick with the ones that don't have
THC hemp oil extracts or like this,
and then use full extracts,
because they have all that stuff.
They have the terpenes, they have the,
what they basically do like Ned, for example,
that's the company we work with.
Ned takes these hemp plants and basically can extracts,
use a full spectrum extract and condenses them down.
So when you use a dropper full,
you're getting a lot of all the cannabinoids and the terpenes.
And you can actually smell when you open the bottle.
You can smell that there's-
So smelly.
Exactly.
And that's where you're going to get the benefit.
So that's why we'll get messages where people will be like,
I used CBD and it didn't do anything for me.
But then I used the net,
the net, hempoil extract,
and then I felt a big difference.
Well, it's interesting you brought this.
So especially with, you know,
child development and the brain development
and then the exposure of, you know, THC,
and a lot of these, you know, chemicals from marijuana,
I was actually wondering about this.
If there's like a study for secondhand smoke, you know,
around children, you know, with cannabis.
Like if they're even like moving in that direction,
I think I honestly, like, I was having a hard time with this
because I was on vacation and it's legal now
and so it's like people are getting very like,
like, lose a fair about how they use their cannabis
and there's this family, this guy and his girl
and they have this little toddler
and he's just like smoking, you know,
and all this smoke is going on, it's kid,
and it's like right front of me,
and I'm just not sit well with me.
No, that doesn't seem to seem extremely irresponsible,
if you ask me.
That's the way they used to smoke cannabis
in the ancient times, is they wouldn't smoke it.
They would put themselves in T.P.
and then they burn it inside the tent
and then they'd all just breathe in.
It's the same smoke.
You know what I mean?
Maybe it's not inhaling it from the joint,
but it's probably getting some.
To me, it felt okay, this is a comparison
that I was kind of looking at.
I'm like, yeah, be one thing, if you had like a beer
and like he's like drinking it,
but it'd be like the equivalent of like Jack Daniel's bottle,
like he's just down in.
You know, that's what it looked like and felt like.
Well, I mean, the smoke is going to the kid.
Right.
And it does interfere with the way the brain develops.
So this is why they're saying, you know,
if you're gonna use, especially the psychoactive cannabinoids,
like THC, you don't want to use it until you're like
in your 20s when your brain is already solidified
and then you're gonna be okay.
Otherwise, if you affect the way it develops, there's a lot of
plasticity in the brain when you're young, but then once you get to a certain point,
it's kind of structured and that's it.
Speaking of brain, you sent me over an article about fatherhood changing my brain.
I didn't get a chance to read it.
You have to break it down to me.
Yeah, do let me pull it up.
Yeah, you sent it over to me.
So it did talk about, there's two things that they notice that happens with fathers when they have kids.
One is that they notice a decline in testosterone.
Now, they theorize that the lower testosterone
is because it keeps the father,
it makes the dad less likely to want to stray,
more parental, you know, you know,
wanted to be more of a role in raising the child. I don't think that's the reason at all. I think if you take out the lack of
sleep factor and stress that their testosterone levels are, will be perfectly fine. Because
that's the one thing that they're not counting for.
Well, you could totally tease that out. You could tease that out from a father who just
had a kid who's involved with his kid versus the dad who had a kid and
then completely disconnected and goes about his normal life.
You would think that that would be proven through that, right?
No, yeah, no, what they do is they just test men's testosterone before and then after
they have a kid.
I mean, when you first have a kid, you're not sleeping well.
Even if you are sleeping well, you've got something new on your mind.
You know, automatically
you're thinking of more than just you, I got to bust my, I got to work, I got to, oh my god, I got
to pay these bills. That's going to lower your testosterone. So that part right there, that's not
that's not clear yet. But the brain does seem to change. So what they found, so with moms,
there's parts of the brain that are linked to attachment, nurturing, empathy, and the ability to interpret
and react appropriately to a baby's behavior.
That starts to improve in moms and in dads.
So it's interesting how our brains start to kind of change
a little bit so that we can become better parents,
if you will, if we can nurture our children a little bit better.
There's also part of the brain that also starts to develop more or shows up more brightly
on their scans with men.
This is the outer surface of the brain, where higher, more conscious cognitive functions
sit, like thought, goal, orientation, planning, and problem solving.
Now that makes a lot of sense, right?
Evolutionarily speaking.
Yeah, yeah.
Like you have a baby and you're about to, you know, you gotta get smarter with your planning
and your goal setting and all that shit.
So my business friend should be next level right now.
Is what you're saying right now?
Well, are you noticing any changes?
Right away, I don't know.
I feel like most of brilliant ideas we've been doing lately, I think have been coming for
me. You know what though?
I've noticed with you, you're much more,
you see me happier and calm.
I don't know if that's just,
I probably could have a baby.
Yeah, no, I'm tired as fuck though.
I'll give you that one.
Yeah, I'll give you that one.
I'll give you that one.
I'll give you that, I submit, you know what I'm saying?
I was talking a lot of shit the first four days.
And, you know, this is easy.
Yeah, yeah. I got this on record. I was talking mad shit at the very beginning. I was like, oh, shit the first four days. And, you know. This is easy. Yeah, yeah.
I got this on record.
I was talking about shit at the very beginning.
I was like, oh, this ain't so bad.
You know, it's funny.
Would I realize now looking back?
Cause here I am on week six is a lot of that must be adrenaline.
Like excitement.
Like, for the soul.
Yeah, I mean, and to it, cause I didn't think,
I thought that, you know, that seems to be like,
or my experience before, normally when I have a adrenaline
like that, it's like a 24 hour, 48 hour thing.
But, you know, having a child just goes a show that like,
that it was a much longer lasting high.
Like I was the first week to two weeks to me was like,
not sure, nothing.
Yeah, training hard, wasn't sleeping, didn't feel like I was deprived of sleep. Nothing. Yeah, training hard wasn't sleeping.
Didn't feel like I was deprived of sleep.
Like this is, I got this, you know?
And, you know, and I know you guys kept talking shit
that it's, it's coming bro, don't worry.
Yeah.
And it came, you know what I'm saying?
It definitely came, it came.
It came and I'm like, fuck I'm tired right now.
Yeah, man.
I was sleeping on my bottom floor this morning, right?
So what, here's the latest news, right?
Does you guys gonna love this?
So you guys know how I like to keep my house,
like just fucking Arctic cold, right?
I like to keep it like 51, like get to wear a jacket
and summertime in my house.
I already have to lift that up.
Well, so, you know, we are, for a little while there,
we were starting to have a little problem with Maximus,
he was just kind of getting kind of congested and a running nose.
And that was making him have a hard time breathing and even when he was nursing.
And, you know, we are doing all these different things.
The troubleshoot it.
And, you know, something that we started to notice is like, man, he really likes to be in
front of the red light.
He really likes when we go outside in the sun.
So he loves, or the steam in the room, we'd steam up our spare bathroom and get it real hot.
Like he seems to calm down when it gets really, really kind of humid and hot. And I thought,
thought we keep the room, the house dry and cold. You know, and like, what happens if we like
turn it up, like kind of tropical, let it get warmed like 73 in the house or whatever. And it was,
it's sure a shit. We turn it up like to like 73, and he's like, so much better.
Breathing better, sleeping better, nursing better,
and I'm like, fuck, no.
And I'm dying, bro.
I'm just like, so hot, dude, and so thank God
for the chili pad to like save me,
but even then dude, like last night I woke up,
and I told Katrina, I gotta go downstairs,
and I like went all the way down there, bottom floor.
Cause down there it's actually pretty cool.
Like if I keep my house at 73, the third floor,
the bottom, the lowest floor is,
stays pretty cool, you know, cause the heat rises, right?
So I go down there and I slept on this
on our uncomfortable, that's like the stased room,
like the family room that nobody ever sits in,
it's not the comfortable couch.
So I was sleeping on that last night, like, fuck dude, nobody ever sits in. It's not the comfortable couch. So I'll sleep it on that last night.
Like, fuck, dude, this is not cool.
Yeah.
Keeps coming.
Yeah, so there's one thing.
Yeah.
So I definitely will admit that that part has the sleep thing.
And I didn't realize how long that this two hour and a half,
two hour eating thing would last.
Like I just assumed for some reason,
I thought that was a very small time.
I thought it was the first two weeks for a newborn
and then they kind of transitioned to like the four hour,
to six hour, like it's on like a-
Oh, it's a long time, bro.
He's gonna be like that for a little while.
No, I know.
I've actually, I mean obviously I recognize that now
that because what'll happen is she'll nurse and the two hour, this is the part that I know, I've, I mean, obviously I recognize that now that, cause what'll happen is she'll nurse,
and the two hour, and this is the part that I guess,
you've got to feel bad for her too,
cause she's got the foods attached to her.
Well, that's the other part.
So this is the part too.
I told her just yesterday, I said,
you know, I really want you to consider,
you know, hiring a full-time nanny to come over.
And really it's more to make me feel better about like, because
what's happening now is I'm tired, because I didn't sleep, then I work now, and I'm still
trying to stay consistent with training. And so when I get home, I'm pretty fucking exhausted.
I'm not the dad in the first week who's like excited to take him from her and handling
him most of the time, like doing a lot of it, like I'm fucking tired. And then I can see
that she's tired because she's been handling them all day and all
night.
And so there's a part of me that's like, man, I don't, I feel bad for her.
I feel bad for myself because of my amount.
And like, and I don't want that.
And so, and I know like right now we have my sister back again, right?
So she's with us for a week.
And it's like, man, when she comes, she was here, she got here yesterday and Katrina looked
at her like, she's like, man, your brother just loves him here.
My sister does.
My sister just recognizes the dogs need to be walked.
She comes behind us, cleans the kitchen.
She notices one of us has an eating
so she prepares food for us.
It's just fucking, it's amazing.
It's like, that's all we,
it feels like it's just enough help to make,
to handle the, because you can't change the two hour eating.
That's just, the kid needs that.
And he's gonna wake us up, you know, it's just inevitable.
He's gonna wake up and need to eat.
When they start to eat solid, is when they start to,
when you start throwing a little bit of solid food,
then they go longer, you know what I mean?
So I'm looking at, because you know,
the two hours, which is nuts to me too, is,
that's what the start time of her feeding is.
You count that time.
So in reality, she's like an hour and a half.
Every hour hour, it's an hour and a half.
So it's not really, I was like, man, for a while,
I was like, okay, I could deal with two hour windows.
It's not a two hour window.
Sometimes it's a half hour window.
Sometimes he nurses for an hour, and he's hungrier today.
And so he nurses half hour, burp, and then he's down.
Oh wow, he's resting 30 minutes.
Oh, he's back up time to eat again.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's sometimes and more often than not
two o'clock in the morning.
Three o'clock and four o'clock.
What a great example of like the greatest lesson in life
that we learn over and over again,
which is the best thing in life or the hardest thing in life.
It's always like that.
It's always so rewarding because it is.
Everything is a challenge.
There's nothing that's super rewarding.
Where's your dad?
Hard as fuck.
It's so crazy that you say that because that's exactly what's been going through my mind.
I'm like, you know what's funny?
This is why people talk about parenting and being a father or being a mother is one of
the most rewarding things of life.
It's very little to do with like just the experience
of having a kid and everything to do with it's probably
one of the most miserable fucking things
that you have to get through.
Finally you're here, dude.
You know what I'm saying, so.
And it's like, it's like, I think high-fiving.
Any motherfucker that goes through it is just like,
so proud of himself.
You know, fuck the kid.
I mean, you're proud of it.
You're proud that you didn't turn into a fuck up because you probably,
like, you're not a psychopath.
Because they probably a high percentage of motherfuckers,
like, give up and like, fuck this.
I didn't sign up for this and they out, dude,
and they're a bad father.
And it's like, man, if you're just there,
you're already better than most.
Like, if you're just there.
And then if you actually then care about
the things I like to think we think about,
or think about the behaviors and the things we do
and how we talk to them in the energy that's around him
and yadda, all this other stuff,
that's even another level of parenting.
It's like you show up to do the job,
you're already a badass.
It's 90% of fucking hard work,
sacrifice, tired tired anxiety, fuck and fear
Spending money it's 90% that and then there's the 10% of the time that makes it all like seriously worth it
Like and it's it can be the smallest as dead
That
Yeah, oh my god, I'm so happy. I did all that for you know, it's like the smallest ride that way
Yeah, dude, and that's what I mean. Life is like that man.
It's like the hardest fucking things.
Yeah, man.
Or the most rewarding.
And if you take out the hard part, I don't know if you're right.
I don't know if it's you're in the reward.
Well, I teach that.
I teach that.
I mean, it's probably one of the most common conversations
that I have when I get interviewed is we talk about adversity.
And, you know, and they ask, you know, how I went through challenge.
What I learned early on in my life that the more adverse
or the more challenging something was,
the darker, the harder, the better it was on the other side.
And the more rewarding it was.
And so that's how I look at fatherhood right now.
It's like, oh, well, no wonder it's so fucking amazing.
It's so amazing, because it's fucking so miserable
trying to make it through it.
That's it, it's so fucking hard.
Because you survived it, and you actually have a kid
that's functioning, eating, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I did it!
You know what I'm saying?
He's not a murderer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I, you know, and again, I went, like I said, this weekend,
I was at my grandfather's birthday and to see him sit there
at 88 years old, you know, he's towards the final stretch, right?
Again, his health is good and all that stuff, but he's 88.
And you watch him sit there and look at everything he's created.
You know, he came to this country.
It was him, my grandmother, my mom and my uncle.
And this is before they had the other kids.
And now he looks out and he sees all of his kids have their kids.
And all those kids have kids and he sits there and you can just see
the look on his face like wow look at what look at what we did look at what we've done
you know together and you can see that you can see the pride that he has but I mean I mean
the stories that they tell me like my grandfather was he came to this country was a custodian
he didn't speak English he had to clean bathrooms that's how he supported his family and you
better believe it was fucking hard and challenging and he had four kids and it's crazy but I didn't speak English, he had to clean bathrooms. That's how he supported his family. And you better believe it was fucking hard
and challenging and he had four kids and it's crazy,
but I don't know, man.
I feel that shift for me too.
That's actually true.
Like, man, I have this crazy motivation.
And it's like for many years,
it was very selfishly driven.
Like, you know, I had a number I wanted to make
and things I wanted to buy in a place I wanted to be.
I don't like right now the way I think is like,
I'm thinking about my generations later,
which I never thought like that before.
Now it's like the money that I save today,
the money that I make today,
the things that we're building business-wise,
it's like, I don't care if that takes 30 years to mature
or happen or what that.
I'm thinking about that generation now.
It's the legacy here.
Yeah, I didn't think about that before.
Before it was about myself.
It was about getting myself out of this position,
put myself in this position,
and now the thought process is completely different.
The things that make my day to day
or the things that make my decisions
when it comes to finances and business,
I'm always, my wheels are turning.
It's one of the greatest things I think a man can do.
I really do, I honestly think,
and I wish more people communicated it that way
because I think we have such a selfish,
egocentric, consumer-based society
that it's not cool to be a dad.
Like, I don't wanna have the money,
I wanna buy cars, I wanna, no, no.
Who needs that?
You know what, the best men in the world
are fucking good fathers.
That's, I'm going to make that statement right now.
Those are the best men in the world
or the great fathers.
And a lot of times they don't get the spotlight,
but they do great things and it's hard work and it's selfless.
You know what I'm saying?
This goes to moms too.
We're dads here and that's why I'm talking about dads.
This definitely goes out to moms and more often
the not moms do a better job, but you know,
this is to dads too.
It's fucking cool, man.
If you're a good dad and you're there for your dad,
you talk about that.
And what you just shared with your grandfather,
and you don't really think about this,
because you talk about your life right now,
and you think about your dad,
but it's like, if it wasn't for your grandfather,
mind pump wouldn't exist.
Exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
That's crazy to think that,
and I can't imagine how amazing that must feel to be him
sitting there and seeing the legs of all the family
going like.
Bro, I had a conversation with my grandfather,
which I usually, he always asked me how the business is doing,
but he likes to know specifics.
Like he wants to know how much, how much.
How much?
How many of you said?
Because, you know what, we sit there and I show him.
He tell me, I tell him, he goes, show me, show me.
So I open up and I show him, you know, say, you know,
sales and production and this is,
how many people listen to your show
and I'm explaining to him the numbers
and my grandfather's looking and he will cry every time.
He starts crying and gets real proud.
He goes, I'm happy I came here, you know,
like I came to this country.
Oh wow.
And you hear that and you're like, fuck,
and I respect the man.
And he's by no means is he a perfect guy.
He's extremely flawed, we all are.
But I have so much respect, you know,
and I've had those kind of role models.
Like, and it's fucking hard, man, it ain't easy.
But it's the best job in the world, dude.
It's the best job in the world.
They do it well.
Anyway, speaking of kids and all that stuff,
I read something crazy this weekend.
I did not know this was true.
What?
So Disney World, okay?
Disney World, did you guys know that when Disney World opened
in Florida in 1960, I think it was four or 62, that they actually got approval by the government
to build a nuclear power plant. What? To power them. They knew they were going to be so
big that they're like like we may need nuclear power
So Disneyland got approval to build a nuclear power plant now they never did. Yeah, they never did
I think because nuclear power started falling out of favor
But they still what year was that I think it was in 1962
I was a Chernobyl was when yeah
This would be great right in the middle of a kids park
Yeah, I know. This would be great right in the middle of a kids park.
Let's do it.
Nuclear meltdown.
That idea.
But you want to know it's crazier?
They still have the permits and the rights to it.
So if Disney World wanted to build a nuclear power plant, they're not an expiration on that?
They still could.
That's what the article said.
Yes.
What?
Doug will pull it up right now.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, see?
It's true.
There is, this could change in the year. I was 19, what does that say? Well, look at that 2019 article right now. That's hilarious. Yeah, see, it's true. There is this could change in the year.
I was 19. What does that say? Well, look at that 2019 article right there. It's just Disney would
or world could have gone nuclear forbs. Yep. Yep. They still got so was 1967 or is that 57 or 67?
Yeah, they still have a permit in Florida to build a nuclear power plant. That is crazy. That's
hilarious. Random facts. Yeah. That's totally well.
If you think about it with nuclear power, that would have been it would have saved a shit
ton of money on energy. Of course. Yeah. It's a power. Everything there. I mean, I'm sure
they consume like half the state's electricity. You imagine the light parade at night. Yeah.
Yeah. The fireworks. Oh, it's all glowing. Yeah. Oh, shit. Anyway, I read that.
I thought it was pretty crazy.
Dude, I saw this caught my attention.
I was reading the hustle and there was, you know those,
those, those, those cars are in the middle of the mall.
And people like sign up for such a scam.
Dude, and like in casinos and all that,
but it was interesting.
So this one was actually in Milpitas,
where this guy did investigation and found out,
like went down the rabbit hole.
Does anybody actually ever really win a car?
No, no.
The most obvious, actually actually won
is like three to $500 of like consolation prizes
after they get through all these different sales tactics
to hammer them.
So I guess like it's popular for a lot of these,
what do you call time share companies?
So what they do is they get a car from a local dealership
and they lease it or they loan it to them
and then they just put it right in the middle of the mall
and then they put these little kiosks there
and they get all their information
and then they basically just,
if you go through the product,
they call them and they say they want something
and then they get people down to do this whole time-shifting
in hammer-oom.
So, I don't have proof of this, so, but I'm going to say
that we're not gonna name names,
but I believe that there's several supplement companies
that people have heard me talk openly about
that I don't care about, that use this exact same scam
and hustle that's been around forever.
It's just in a different form.
In a different form, by like, for example,
when 5,000 share this, post this, do this.
It's chance to win $5,000.
You're winning shit.
And I don't think anybody fucking wins.
And even if someone does, I think it's someone internally
and it's a bunch of bullshit.
I think, and I heard that was going around
with a couple of these supplement companies
and that's how a lot of them grew and had traction early on before everybody knew who the fuck they were
I hate that. Yeah, you're so slimy. Slimy shit. Yeah, it sucks because people still do it and they're like so excited
Yeah, I could win this car. It's such an illusion. Yeah, remember those those clearing house sweepstakes or whatever
What they called those? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, come in the mail and shit
Yeah, yeah, and they have the video of like the show up with the balloons you want to check
You know that got me to answer the door when I was a kid so many times
Don't worry. I'll get it. Yeah
It's nobody
Yeah, those those what they'll do is I'll have you fill out a form for the car or whatever and then they'll call you like
You want you didn't win a car, but you want
with vacation and fucking wherever we did that with the gym business.
We had the lead boxes.
It was when it went a free gym membership.
We never gave a free.
Everybody wanted a free five day pass.
Yeah.
And what we did is you get, you called all those leads.
Oh, you didn't win, but I'd like to offer you a free week in the gym.
So you could try it out and people would be excited because they're like, oh,
cool.
I still got something. You were supposed to in the gym so you could try it out. And people would be excited because they're like, oh, cool, I still got something.
You were supposed to do.
You know what you're supposed to do?
You were supposed to send all those slips in to corporate
and then they would pick a year membership.
Did you ever turn the slips in?
No, nobody ever turned the slip in.
He's on those.
Yeah, nobody did.
Yeah, you called it hot leads.
Yeah, he called those leads in.
Hey, did you guys see Mike Matthews' story the other day?
You try and make fun.
So you know how we always make fun of him
for posting the pictures of himself
writing a stationary bike.
And it's Flops and underwear.
Yeah, underwear.
He just did it again.
He posted it up again.
And he asked his audience what they thought of it
or whatever, which I think it's so I like.
What I would love to do with Mike,
because he said those that don't know
we're having a live event with Mike.
It's at myimpumplive.com.
You guys can get there's still some tickets.
I believe there's only two VIP plus for the dinner with us.
I think there's only two seats to those left.
And I think there's a couple of the VIPs.
He's one of the most knowledgeable guys,
especially in the business.
And he's a good friend.
And he's a great time.
I'm excited as hell for this live event.
It's gonna be a while.
What was I gonna say about him?
Oh, I was gonna talk about Mike coming down here,
but I can't remember why I was gonna share with him.
Oh, I wanted to do his bike.
So you know how we have our chairs?
Oh, I haven't sit on the bike.
Yeah, we have a bike.
We have a sit on the bike.
Yeah, we don't even tell him, right?
We just put, we put our three fucking production chairs
that we sit at all the time,
and then we'll fucking get an elliptical bike
or whatever for him right next to us.
That's gotta be the move.
I don't feel great. I can't wait, cause he's a smart dude.
And the thing that I like most about Mike is that he's super honest.
Like he'll just tell you whatever you want to know.
That's why we all connected with him.
So this live event's gonna be fun.
Well, I would kill for the dinner, honestly.
Like that, I mean, I'll tell you straight up right now.
Pick his business brain.
We have a ton of friends that we have met in this space now,
and I have a lot of respect for a lot of them
and spoke highly of a lot of, you know,
the Ben Pekolsky's and the, you know,
Bajros' Tom Bill use.
Like, I would say that the person that I probably
communicate the most with and have learned from
and just been impressed time
over time with their business brain is Mike.
Mike is one of the most underrated people in the space.
And super open to share.
Because he doesn't flaunt his success, but that motherfucker is extremely successful and
very good at what he does and an open book.
And so, man, our dinner conversations,
when we sit down and we chat about business, it's some of the most favorite, my favorite times
that we have had with all the people that we've had an opportunity to hang out and be around. So,
to me, that is, I mean, I would be all over that if I was like an entrepreneur trying to come up
in the space. If that's how you network. Yeah, and if there are no tickets available
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BEEP.
First question is from Michael Vanderloo.
What are your favorite row variations
for strength, hypertrophy, et cetera?
Good question.
Row variations.
Yeah, it's a great question because.
I love the T-Bar row.
Rowing is, that's one of my favorites.
It's got to be one of my favorite exercises.
Well, let's start with the most basic one, right?
The Barbell row, that's gotta be the most basic exercise.
I personally prefer an overhand grip
with my Barbell row, but you know in the 90s,
I don't know if you guys remember this,
in the 90s it became real popular to supinate your grip
to have that kind of reverse grip row.
Let's start with Dorean Yates.
Dorean Yates, who was Mr. Olympia,
he would post pictures of whatever,
he wouldn't post, he was in magazines
before social media.
And they would talk about how he liked to row
with a supinated grip.
And this is because Mike Menser,
who at one point changed the way Dorene 8's trained
from high volume to low volume high intensity,
which became his kind of brand, he told them that the biceps are stronger in the supinated position. So if you want to
lift more weight, you need to go with a supinated grip. And so that's how Dorian rode. And then all
of a sudden it became a thing. Everybody rode that way. The reason why that's not my absolute
favorite, although I like it, is because it does place the bicep in a little bit of a vulnerable
position. In fact, you'll find guys who are really strong sometimes, you know, hurt their bicep because
they're rowing so much weight with that, with that supinated grip.
But T-Bar rows up there, bar bar rows gotta be my favorite.
That's gonna be my favorite all around.
Well, you got to exercise.
The difference between supinated and pronated also though, it also changes the recruitment
pattern in the back because your back because the elbow position now.
It tends to drive the elbows in the back.
Yeah, because when you go supinated, now you can tuck the elbows all the way by your
side.
When you're pronated, they tend to flare out a little bit.
So you're going to change a little bit of how it feels.
So I like to incorporate, I include both.
So it's a real normal for me.
If I found that, oh, I've rode the last five times in a pronated grip, I'll come in and
go, oh, I'm going go supinate a grip today,
just a vary.
But I love unconventional shit for this.
Like, I was doing sled rows the other day.
Oh, yeah, you were, weren't you?
Yeah, and it's, you know, like, it's just,
it's something where I'm like providing
that kind of movement with it.
And I just loved like the power output I can't even
like you love to get on the road.
I can't even get on the road.
Yeah, you got me into sled rows, and I fell, I was doing a lot of that when I can't get you in the sled rows. You got me into sled rows. Yeah, you got me into sled rows.
And I fell, I was doing a lot of that
when I was competing anywhere that had a gr,
anytime there was grass and I was doing it back,
I threw sled rows in because I just loved the way.
We should explain sled rows for people who don't know.
So it's, you attach ropes or handles,
I should say to a sled.
We did YouTube, didn't we?
Yeah, it's kind of like a TRX hand,
like so basically straps, like you hook to the front
of the sled and then you stack the sled with weight
and basically just get where it's taught and then you kind of sit in your squat or your, yeah, basically like a squat position
lean over your explosive, your row. Yeah, the thing I like about it, do we do it? Do we do a YouTube video of it?
I think we did. I thought we did, Doug, maybe look at the part of the talk. Yeah, because I thought we did a YouTube video on this way back
when we were doing it at the other gym.
Now, it doesn't have the negative portion of the rep,
which some people would say is a detriment,
but I see that as a positive.
It's a positive because almost every other exercise you do for row
does have that.
And so it's an exercise where it's you are.
And all you are working is the concentric motion.
And it's less damaging to the muscle.
So you can actually add this to increase volume and
minimize the amount of recovery that you need from it.
So I wouldn't always only do concentric exercises, but to add a row like that and make it explosive.
No, to emphasize power and to get that concentric contraction.
Well, it's kind of like a pen row.
Pen row.
Yeah, pen lay row.
Yeah, pen lay row.
You're exploding up and then you let the bar drop down.
So that's the exact same thing only.
So I love that. And I also love, we added this in one of our programs too, where you're bent
over and you get a kettlebell and we add rotation with that row. So it's more of a, I forget
we ended up calling it, but this is something I used to do with the kettlebells all the time.
Anyway, a real heavy kettlebell, you're leaning over, you're kind of propping one arm on the
four foot, the leg in front, and I kind of propping one arm on the four foot,
the leg in front, and I'm rotating and pulling it in towards the chest.
Yeah, I like, I actually prefer kettlebells over dumbbells for the dumbbell row type exercise.
Just because of the weight, the weight is situated at the bottom.
It's kind of less, it's less of it's in the way.
It's not a huge difference, but it's enough of a difference where I enjoy the way it
feels.
Dumbbell rows have to be one of my top three row exercises.
I love a good dumbbell row.
Well, it's also one of the more,
because you're doing, especially because you're doing
single or effort on a single,
because you could do that double too.
I used to do double dumbbell rows a lot
where I just grab a pair of dumbbells,
bend over and do a bend over row that way.
But single dumbbell rows, there's two major ways
that you can do a difference,
although I've seen lots of different variations of it,
where you start to get some anti-rotational benefits
to it or rotational benefits to it, right?
So that's the kind of an ad to that.
That's why I like it,
because you get that little bit of a twist at the top.
Right, which there's a lot of carryover and benefit
to that, I think, of doing some sort of rotation
in there for rotational strength,
and then also making it really strict.
I mean, you take a, I mean, I can rip up,
like, you know, probably, I don't know.
You can go heavy on that.
Yeah, yeah, I've, I know I've done a well over 120
before for a single dumbbell if I'm ripping, right?
But then I could take that and do it controlled
with like 80 pounds and make it fucking brutal and tough
and there's benefits to both ways.
Yeah, there it is. Power sled pole. It's called on YouTube.
Yeah, we did. Excellent. Yeah.
I do love this move, dude.
This is such a warm.
God, you are a beast.
Look how young you look.
I know. What happened? That was only four years ago.
Are we aging faster?
What the hell is going on here?
It's exciting. It's crazy.
It's all this wisdom, you know.
Justin got me into that. You know what I like about it too?
It's, you know, talk about maybe one of the most
functional, you know, back exercises you could do.
Because when you think about real life,
like that's, you would get your feet,
if you were gonna have to try and grab or drag
or pull something, you would leverage your whole body.
When I used to do those, so judo and jujitsu,
especially if you're in a ghee,
if you're fighting in a ghee, that position, the way youjitsu, especially if you're in a gee, if you're fighting in a gee, that position,
the way you're exploding, the way you're positioning your body,
especially if you're setting yourself up for a throw and judo,
that it's so much carryover from that exercise.
So I used to do that, but I didn't have a sled.
This was back when I used to do juditsu and judo.
I didn't have a sled, so I used to do it to my,
it was almost like, what's the machine with the arms?
We have one out here, free motion.
Free motion, it's kind of like a free motion,
but it actually had an attachment with a band
so that the weight wouldn't slam up and down,
and I do these kind of explosive rows
to simulate grabbing the key, pulling,
and then going into a throw, but the sled's even better.
The sled is just so much more natural.
Now, along those lines too,
which you get, now this is something
that's very limited to where you're at.
Like, if it's only been a few times I've been able to do this
and I love to do it if I can get hold of it.
If someone has a long enough rope that you can tie to a sled
and you sit down on the ground
and you actually have those two.
Oh, yeah, I love those two.
And then you drag, then you drag with rope.
Now, some of the gyms, I see, I know some of the new,
some of the gyms actually have that.
Like, you've seen a machine that has the rope
that you're able to pull like that.
Yeah, you have a pulley.
That's like a, it's on a continuous kind of serpentine belt.
Yeah, you keep pulling it and it,
you can make it as tight and as hard as you want.
And what's great about those unconventional type movements
like that is just your body's just not used
to ever training that way.
Everybody's seen a seated row,
everyone's seen a barbell row,
everyone's seen a dumbbell row.
Like, and you've done that a million times in your workout, everyone's seen a barbell row, everyone's seen a dumbbell row.
Like, and you've done that a million times in your workout, man, you really want to throw
a curve ball at your back.
You know, you drag a sled like that or do some rope pulls.
I mean, that's incredible.
Now, you did mention T-Bar row.
For me, old school T-Bar row superior to the chest supported T-Bar.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
By far.
Standing one.
By far.
Yeah. You just get standing T-Bar row. I like a relatively narrow grip,
and I really can activate my lats
in an exercise like that,
just because of the position of the bar.
And if you have a home gem, you don't need,
now you can get an anchor,
what do they call it, a landmine anchor,
and the relatively inexpensive,
or do what I did, which was I take my bar,
stick it in corner.
Put in the corner of the wall.
They have a handle attachment for it now too.
What do you put over the bar?
You just put it under the bar, like right where it ends
and you just put it right up to that, like,
I got a bar on then boom.
I got a bar on, because what I do is I put the V bar
underneath the bar.
You know that little V-fold on bar.
What about machines?
What about machine rows?
What are some of your cable row?
It's got to be one of the best.
A little pulley cable row.
Yeah, sure. It's got to be up there. best. A little pulley cable row. Yeah, sure.
It's got to be up there.
I mean, I like messing with those hammer strength.
Hammer strength is a good job.
Yeah, I like the feel of hammer strength.
The hammer strength. The hammer strength iso row.
You should be my favorite machine.
That's another one that was popularized by Dorengate.
Yeah, by far.
They have a good one too. Hammer strength also has a good one
where you're seated. There's a chest support.
You reach up,
and the grips are supinated.
And when you row, they come down.
So it's almost like this real low kind of row
in the last.
This is a chest up, too.
They have the one that comes from down up.
And then it comes up, I was doing that
in my last back workout.
And you feel that like in the traps and rhomboids?
Yeah, I got really into heavy rows for a long time.
The golds gym, I don't know if it's still golds gym,
on Monoray, did they change that one to the American Barbell?
Okay, so that one had dumbbells that went up to 150.
And at one point, I was ripping up the 150s
and just doing heavy rows.
And you know, when you wanna talk about back,
mid back thickness, I would say rows
are probably your best bet.
You wanna get that width and especially in the last,
you wanna do your pull downs, your pull ups,
that kinda stuff, but just for that overall
back thickness, rows, rows are king, best for that.
Next question is from Moore Jojo.
What characteristics or qualities do you think separates
people who adhere to their fitness goals
and health behaviors compared to those who don't?
Did you ever notice common traits in the clients you train?
That's a cool question.
Yeah, that's actually wrote a whole article on this.
It's not up yet, but I'm sure it'll be up
in the next few weeks.
And I positioned the article like this,
like the vast majority of people that work out in gyms
or anywhere, the vast majority of them do it
for one particular goal
or reason.
And that's the change how they look.
The number one goal is to change their aesthetics.
But there is a minority of people that work out
that don't work out necessarily for aesthetics.
They enjoy the aesthetic benefits,
but they really go for other reasons.
Those are the people that tend to be the most consistent.
It's what I've always found.
It's the people who come to the gym
and they're not necessarily trying to change and sculpt
their body and be lean.
They've been working out for 10 years, 15 years, 20 years.
And you ask them, why are you so consistent?
I used to do this.
Every time I had somebody who, when I'd manage a gym and I noticed that the same regulars
that came in all time and I'd look at their membership card and notice that they were members
for 10 years or 15 years. I'd talk to them.
I love talking to my regular members
because those people kind of,
they're like the mayors of the gym, if you will.
And I'd talk to them, how long have you been working out?
Oh, I've been working out for 15 years.
How often do you work out?
Oh, four days a week.
If you've always been consistent,
pretty much always consistent.
Why do you work out?
What keeps you consistent?
They never said,
oh, because I like the way it makes me look.
None of them ever said that.
It was always like, oh, I just love working out.
I'm going to do it.
It makes me feel.
You say this all the time and I think it fits what we're talking
about right here, which is the training because you love
yourself, not because you hate yourself, right?
And I think that the clients, the clients that have the
real, the long, long term success and continue on, it's really easy for anybody to get motivated for a wedding coming up or Las Vegas is
in, you know, three months or you know, you're going to be on a beach and so you get motivated
to look a different way or drop five pounds of fat or whatever it is, but that's not what
keeps you going forever.
It's the clients that I could learn and this, I didn't learn this till way later to start
to help teach
this and implement this.
Because everybody comes to you with a goal like that.
Like you and as a trainer at first,
I mean, you're in a service business.
So like, oh, you come, you want to lose 10 pounds?
Let me help you lose 10 pounds.
That's all we're speaking to.
It wasn't until later on as a trainer that I start to evolve
and realize, like, man, am I really helping these people?
Cause sure, I get them off 10 pounds.
But then they come back and hire me eight months later again,
because they put the 10 pounds right back on.
It's like, yeah, that's great for business for me,
cause I'm continuing having to sell them,
but I'm really not fundamentally changing these people.
And what it was that I wasn't doing was,
I wasn't speaking to all the other parts of health
and fitness and what their exercise did for them.
I wasn't asking about their stool.
I wasn't talking about their relationships with their partner.
I wasn't talking about how it was improving their sleep. I wasn't talking about how it was improving their sleep. I wasn't
talking about how it was improving their work ethic and their relationships with their
friends. When I started to help tell my clients, like, okay, I know your goal is 10 pounds,
and we're starting to go and they're like, tell me, oh, man, I feel great. I got on the
scale today. I don't have down three pounds. Instead of me just celebrating the down the
three pounds, I'll be, oh, that's great. I'm like, so how's your sleep going?
Like, oh, did you know that, like, how's work been doing?
Are you more productive at work?
I started asking all these other questions
that they probably weren't connecting their weight loss with
and how that impacted their life that way.
And then when you help them make that switch
and they finally do, they find a new motivation
to go to gym.
Yeah, it's great.
I need to lose 10 pounds or I wanna lose 10 pounds,
but that's not why I'm going to the gym.
I'm going to the gym because I'm a better person
in all aspects of my life because I go to the gym.
I'm better, I'm a better husband.
I'm a better father.
I'm a better employee or I'm a better boss.
Like, holy shit, like when I'm exercising,
all these other things improve.
Regardless, if my scale goes up or down, I notice that.
So even if I maybe be not eating as best as I could be eating
or in the best physical shape, visually,
that I've ever been in,
man, exercise does so many other things
for my overall health.
When you get a client to make that connection,
that's what separates them.
Yeah, I mean, those are the ones that have put that together.
They've strung all those dots together.
They've been able to see productivity go up in the workplace.
They've been able to see their relationships improve, their family life, all these things.
Those are the ones I've had clients that, you know, most of them were early in the morning
because, you know, for the most part, my best clients, the most consistent ones,
the ones that wanted to be the most were typically in that window of like 5am till 8am to 10am.
They prioritize it.
Yeah, that was their thing.
Like, I have to have, and they wanted it to be the first thing.
This is what I'm focused on solely.
This is an improvement of myself, and then I can be my best self to everybody else, you know, the rest of my day.
The irony is, and this is the funny part,
if I were to list all of the real benefits
that you get from exercise, from consistent regular fitness,
if I were to list all of the benefits that you got,
and then I were to put the most important ones at the top
and rank them in order.
The irony is changing how you look is down the list.
Changing how you look and looking good is actually one of the benefits that is not that important.
No joke, it's true.
If you really think of all the benefits, improved health, reductions in depression and anxiety.
By the way, studies show that consistent exercise is at least as effective
as medication in the short term for helping with depressive symptoms and in the long term,
might actually be better. So that's just your mental state. How much is that going to impact
the rest of your life? Productivity, hormones, your bone health, your mobility, all those things.
If I were to list everything, those all beat appearanceance that's the irony like if you could take a pill to give you all those things
But you look the same people would spend a lot of fucking money on that pill and it's funny because it what you know
What Adam and just are saying people think sounds obvious. It's not you only see what you focus on so a lot of people
Almost completely don't even realize all those other benefits because all they're focusing on is the fact
that they still haven't lost 15 pounds.
No, the only thing they're focused on is they have Vegas
in three months, they feel fat,
they know they're gonna be in a bikini
and they wanna fix that, so I'm hiring you.
And that's all that they're dead tunnel vision.
That's it, that's it.
And now here's the other side of,
there's another piece of irony here, this is funny.
If you focus on exercise for all those other benefits,
guess what the side effect of that is.
You look better.
Now, if you focus just on training
because you just wanna change how you look,
you might achieve changes with how you look.
But over time, the decisions that you make
because you're all aesthetics focused,
over time, you will compromise your health
because what ends up happening is,
I just wanna change how I look,
diet isn't always what's ideal,
it ends up turning into more starving myself and binging.
I start to develop a better relationship.
Exercise turns into punishment.
Uh oh, I need to get in shape real quick.
I look ugly, I'm fat, whatever.
So over time, you actually start to sacrifice health
in pursuit of aesthetics.
And when ends up happening when you're health declines,
what do you lose?
Aesthetics.
So the irony of this is, and this is again,
this is, we've worked in gyms for decades, the most
consistent people, and I mean day in, day out, they're there, it is part of their life,
it's not a struggle for them, it's not like they wake up and like, I got a motive state,
motivate myself to get up and go to the gym.
No, just what they do.
It's just a part of their life.
It's just a part of their life.
Those people, they don't work out for the aesthetics.
Now, they look phenomenal.
All of them look phenomenal.
They've been working out for years,
but that's not why they go to the gym.
They go to the gym because they understand
the true and real life value that it brings them.
So if you can start to understand fitness through this lens,
and all you have to do is focus on it.
It's all you have to do. It doesn't take, it's not magic. Just start to realize and focus on it over time.
You will always be consistent. It will never be an issue. It will become something that you prioritize.
If you focus on your aesthetics, in and out, you're going to be in and out of the gym always,
all the time. It's always that way. Unless a super body obsessed and extremely insecure about your appearance,
in which case you'll probably be very consistent,
but again, over time, you won't look any better
and you will lose your health.
Next question is from Nick Zaneis.
For people trying to sleep back on a budget,
what are the best investments to make?
I really like these questions today.
Who's on this today?
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and things like that for fitness.
Like there's definitely big rocks
that everybody should focus on before you even spend
any money on anything else, right?
Like, there's some major steps that you can take
to being a, being, you know, sleep hacking
or getting better sleep than buying anything whatsoever.
So I think that's important to say that,
and important to note that.
The more important than buying things.
Right, the more of an impact.
Right, as much as I use my Felix Gray every night,
I use my Chili Patterns, and I love it,
but I also did steps before that
to already step in that direction
for those things to really enhance already
what I was already focused on.
And right away what comes to mind to me,
and I know Salah said this before on the show multiple times, enhance already what I was already focused on. And right away what comes to mind to me,
and I know Sal has said this before
on the show multiple times,
and that it's one of those things
that we actually just, we don't put any focus on.
Everybody has like a routine, like you get up,
like I guarantee everybody has somewhat of a morning routine,
even if it is as basic as mine,
which is like get up coffee, brush my teeth, shower,
like that's still a routine.
You know, I don't ever not shower, I don't ever not brush my teeth, I don't ever not have coffee, like that teeth, shower, like that's still a routine. You know, I don't ever not shower,
I don't ever not brush my teeth,
I don't ever not have coffee.
Like, that's a routine.
I do that every single morning.
But before I started to make this,
like a routine for my, I never had one.
It was like, you go to bed when you get tired,
when your body, when your eyes can't stay open anymore,
or you're done watching your favorite show,
or whatever, that was how you went to sleep.
And there was no like getting ready for sleep,
the same way we get ready for our day.
It's not on your bed.
Yeah, but when you start to realize the value of sleep
and how important it is to us,
how we improve on all levels,
man, you start to say, wow, I don't ever even think about it.
What if I just start thinking about that and think, okay, is it best for me to be staring
at a computer screen, a phone, or a television two minutes before I try and close my eyes
and go sleep?
No, not at all.
In fact, there should be at least a two-hour window before you think you're going to settle
down and go to bed.
Do I leave my bright-ass, bright fucking lights on in my bedroom till I shut them off
and try and go to sleep?
Not a good idea, either.
If I'm gonna try and settle my brain,
that bright blue light makes tricks my brain
into thinking it's daylight still.
I used to have this funny thing.
Like I used to think eating super early
was just for old seniors, senior citizens.
You know, it was like this thing where like, man, I'm not gonna do that for old seniors, senior citizens. You know, it was like this, this thing where like,
you know, man, I'm not gonna do that.
It's for old people, whatever.
I started to be more intentional about that
and stop eating, you know, seven o'clock was the latest.
I would make myself like dinner.
And that was a game changer in terms of sleep
and digestion for me.
And that was a very simple thing that I could control
consistently. And it was all just about, you know, again, like being intentional about it and focusing on,
look, this is, this needs to happen for me to sleep better. And so therefore, I'm going to make
it a priority. I am going to start dimming my lights down. I am going to put, you know, parameters
out there. So it will improve, you know, the result of when I wake up, I'm going to feel refreshed
versus not. You guys have ever noticed how, and I know people listening will have noticed this,
you've ever noticed how when you were a kid or maybe now as an adult, when you go to, when you
went to the beach or you went swimming with your friends or maybe now your kids just them when they
go swimming, go to the beach, you ever notice how hard and good they sleep? Yeah. You ever
know that? Yeah. I've always noticed as a kid, my aunt had a pool,
and whenever we'd go there and go swimming,
I remember I'd come home and when it was bedtime
and I would sleep and I'd sleep so hard.
And I thought it was, I'm like, oh, maybe it's swimming,
it's the activity.
Right, it's the activity, but no, it's not.
It's the sun, it's the sun.
Yeah. It's the sunlight.
When you would get a lot of sun exposure during the day,
it actually sets your circadian rhythm.
So the more sunlight you get during the day,
it's very strongly correlated to the better sleep
you're gonna get at night.
The less sunlight you get during the day,
the less good your sleep is gonna be in the evening.
So this is a sleep hack.
Get sunlight during the day.
Now, if you work indoors,
maybe you can sit next to the window,
go for walks outside if you drive a car with a sunroof,
open the sunroof so the sun comes down on you,
but sun exposure during the day
has a very positive effect on sleep.
That and the sleep routine, which I tell people,
one to two hours before you go to bed,
shut off all electronics,
move around with very dim light,
speak softly.
So no more yelling or whatever, it's night time now
where you're getting ready to go to bed.
So talk softly with your kids, with your spouse,
maybe read a book, do things that kind of settle you down
and get you for sleep.
Do those two things, sunlight the day and night
just have an hour sleep routine.
And by the way, that hour before doesn't mean like,
you're wasting an hour, I think people think,
oh, I'm gonna do an hour sleep routine.
You need a book, to your journal, do your gratitude.
Yeah, dude, you could still do things,
just have like dim lights in the house.
I use Himalayan salt lamps throughout the house,
because they emit a really...
I love those.
Aren't they great?
They emit a soft red glow,
and so I put them throughout the house,
we turn off all the lights.
You could still see, it's just dark,
it feels like there's a fire like there's like a fire,
it's like fire light or whatever.
And we just move around, everybody sleeps better.
But sunlight, it's a big one.
A lot of people don't realize it.
Like the less sun you have during the day,
the harder it's gonna be for you to go to sleep.
And now if you're thinking about it,
when if you're listening to this, put it together.
Think of all the times you've been outside all day long
and what that ends up happening,
what that does to your sleep at night,
makes a huge difference.
Those two things far better than all the gadgets
and blue blockers, glasses and all the things you could do,
way, way, way, way more effective.
Here's a third one that you can do.
Make sure you're cool at night.
So for some people, that means you have to have
your AC on other people sleep naked
or sleep with very little clothing on.
So, you go to your window open.
Yeah, cool, a cool body temperature tells the body and the brain,
it's time to go to sleep.
You combine those three things and do them consistently
watch what happened.
Now, you can see why we've partnered up, though,
with all those companies.
It's the reason why we accepted those companies.
Because they work with those things.
Because exactly, all those main things, right?
So, I know, and this is how I use these companies,
like there's a day, there's days where I know I would be ideal
that I get out and get the sun,
but the truth of the matter is sometimes it doesn't happen.
So I love having that juice light in there.
Like that's, and that's how I use it when I need to.
I would weigh rather and I always try to do the sun
and not use the juice.
That's my goal is to not use it,
but I have it there for that reason.
Same thing goes for my Felix Gray glasses.
Oh, I would rather me discipline myself,
not look at my phone, not watch TV,
not do anything on electronics,
beyond seven o'clock,
that way the last two or three hours in my house,
I wonder what the reality is,
I tend to be looking at my phone,
I tend to be watching TV till 8, 19 o'clock.
So I just discipline myself to put my glasses on.
I would also like to have 50 something degrees in my house,
but I obviously can't have that anymore with my kids.
So the chili pad has done wonders for me
because it keeps the bed cool.
Like so you don't need those things.
There's ways to do this all naturally,
and it's better.
We'll all stand by that, regardless of being sponsored
by any of these companies,
we would always promote somebody,
just like the whole natural food thing.
Does it mean that there's not value
in having a protein shake
or using a green juice every once in a while?
But the idea is that we're always striving
to get it all whole food or the natural way first,
but these tools, they're nice to have
when you can't do that or you miss it
and then you supplement the same way.
It's no different with this.
Next question is from Mindfully Mel.
I've been seeing a lot of this all-in approach.
Influencers are claiming they're doing it to gain control over extreme hunger and eventually
get their body to plateau to where their body is supposed to be naturally.
So are you guys, I have no idea what this is.
So I'll tell you, so there's these fitness influencers
on Instagram who are a lot of them are female
and they always post pictures of themselves
being lean and skinny or whatever.
And there's this trend now where they're posting
that they're gonna go all in with diet.
Like that's it, I have all this crazy hunger.
I want my body, I want my period to come back normally.
I want to feel healthy again.
And they're doing this what's called
this all-in approach where they just go crazy
with food and eat a whole bunch.
So one of them has been eating,
one in particular, should be eating close
to 5,000 calories.
A day and it's gained 30 pounds in a two month period
to get her, and the goal is to get your body
to its natural
body weight. What? Yeah. Now, you know, and the reason why I picked this question is because I want
to address this. This is something that that the space fitness space does very well. They take some
good knowledge, some good nuggets of information, and then they pathologize it and turn it into more
issues, more problem.
Bastardized.
Yeah, so like, okay, there is some good nuggets here.
The extreme dieting, the restricting,
the body image issues that cause a lot of these people
and particular women to consume really, really low calories
over long periods of time to achieve an ideal
that's almost impossible, where they lose their menstruation,
the hormones go out of whack, they don't feel good.
It, yes, they do need to eat more.
They need to eat more food,
they need to allow their body to gain some weight,
even gain some body fat,
so they can normalize and become more healthy.
That's true.
Going about it by saying,
I'm gonna eat as much as I can,
or as much as I want to,
and go from one extreme, which is 1200 calories,
or whatever, to 5,000 calories a day.
There's another word for that.
And that's the restrict binge type mentality.
It's the other coin or excuse me,
the other side of the eating disorder
or bad food relationship coin.
So if you have a coin that's the food relationship issue
on one side, it's starving yourself
and over working out.
The other side is just binging and saying,
I don't care, whatever.
So when you see these types of things, that's not the kind of advice that you want.
When I work with people who are super restricted for long periods of time, I never tell them,
okay, he's what I want you to do. Go all in, eat everything, get your body to normalize.
What? No. It's a slow process. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna slowly increase your calories.
It's focus on strength.
And let's build a good relationship with food.
This is not a good relationship with food.
I feel like this is just another attempt
for influencers to try and survive
because it's a dying breed.
Total.
Oh my God.
It's a dying, thank God.
Finally.
It's a dying breed.
And the numbers are supporting it now.
Yeah, talk about those articles.
Less than let, yeah.
It's been,
it's reduced by 50%.
That's a big jump in just like the last year.
In terms of what influencers,
yeah, just what's it actually having influence.
Saying how many people are actually engaging in the post
that are actually clicking through
and buying things from these people
that are actually doing anything
of these people are saying,
less and less people are giving a fuck.
And it's just, it's just good.
And who wasn't we were just talking to the other day
that said that we were fitness influencers.
And I wanna make something really fucking clear
on the shows that I do not think
that the three of us are fitness influencers.
Maybe you think that because we influence whatever,
but we did not get into this space trying to be influencers.
We saw an opportunity to build a business in this space
because there was so much crap information
And we're like this is gonna be easy. All we have to do is go out tell truth tell the truth and share good science-based
Massive difference in that approach and in the other approach that we see out there just trying to pedal something right on the
Gate or just get attention to then influence people to buy shit like that
We didn't know it was not let's become big influencers
No, it was never ever that intention whatsoever.
It was, there's a need in the market.
We saw the need in the market.
And that is what it is.
It's not, I do not consider myself an influencer.
I know what I have.
It makes me angry.
It does.
I don't, who wasn't, to say that.
I don't know, dude.
So many said that just recently we were together.
It was a Christina.
I don't know, maybe.
We had just like mentioned it.
Yeah, we were with so many. I'm like, don't fucking put L like mentioned it. Yeah, we were with so, like, don't fucking put
lumpists in that.
We are not that.
We're three normal fucking guys.
Just a bunch of trainers that have been doing this
for a really fucking long time happen to be really
good at our jobs and saw a massive opportunity in our space.
Saw that there are a bunch of influencers in this space
giving out a bunch of bullshit.
Yeah, they were like, you know, given our clients
the wrong information that we were having
to kind of deconstruct and then tell them
the right thing to do.
And so it was out of frustration, really.
Yeah, no, it reminds me of,
it's also, you've seen this trend, right,
with the influencer, you know, girls in particular,
where now they're posting pictures of themselves,
sitting down so you can see their little fat roll,
or like, this is me without makeup, or, or taking a shit, you know, posting little fat roll or like this is me without
makeup or.
Or take a shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, like it's just another way.
Here's look how real I am.
It's a very staged photo.
It's a very, you know, look, gain attention type of deal.
No, listen, over like restricting yourself, starving yourself, overworking yourself, that's
a bad relationship with exercise and food. Going
to eat, to deal with extreme hunger, whatever that means, to the point where you're going
to see where your body goes, gaining 30 pounds in two months or whatever, that's another
symptom of a bad relationship to food and exercise. Now maybe somebody can make the argument
and say, well, in order for me to find my normal, I had to test both extremes. But in my experience, working with people in that, you know, starve, binge type, you know, eating,
you know, type of mentality, the swings keep going. And they actually start to get worse,
where the term restrictions become bigger and the term yo-yo dieting came from. Exactly what that is.
No, it's a slow process. It's about changing behaviors, and it's real hard work.
Here's the thing, it's fucking hard, it's not easy.
And I mean, it's hard in the real sense.
Like, yes, restricting your calories every single day's hard, but for someone with body
image issues, it's actually a coping mechanism.
I know, I had certain body image issues, I dealt with some of this stuff, and what I did
was real hard for most people.
I ate six to eight meals a day.
I brought them with me to work.
I never missed a workout.
I took every supplement.
I never ate out with friends.
I did lots of it.
It was real hard, but in reality,
it was kind of a coping mechanism.
And so this, this back and forth
that they're starting to promote,
you know, and I get a little upset
because I see people following them and thinking,
I'm gonna do this all in an approach.
And it's like, oh, now we're gonna call it something else.
It's not binging, it's making myself healthy
by eating, you know, 10,000 calories
or 5,000 calories a day or whatever.
No, it's just the other side of the coin.
It's a very slow process.
Take care of yourself, and it takes some time.
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