Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1104: How to Improve Grip Strength, Training After 40, the Importance of Getting Sweaty When Working Out & MORE

Episode Date: August 24, 2019

1104: How to Improve Grip Strength, Training After 40, the Importance of Getting Sweaty When Working Out & MORE John Romano and Rich Gaspari invade Mind Pump HQ. (4:43) How Mark Bell has won Adam ove...r. (6:13) Mind Pump gets a supplement offer from who??!! (7:35) Is cocaine now legal in Mexico?? (15:35) Virtue signaling at its finest when it comes to pollution and the environment. (19:33) Is there a natural painkiller in your saliva?? (23:28) Mind Pump Recommends Wayward Pines on Hulu and Mindhunter on Netflix. (27:27) How Sal and his son are now bonding over his early childhood trauma of anime. (32:06) Could cannabis be the key to curing pancreatic cancer? (34:31) The evolution of Airbnb and the VRBO market. (37:27) Too little, too late...Gillette shifts gears with their marketing strategy. (40:40) #Quah question #1 – Can you talk about the importance of grip strength training and how to improve grip? I find since my grip is weaker, it limits my deadlift and how long I can do heavy lunges. I don’t want to resort to wraps, but should I till I build a better grip? (43:46) #Quah question #2 – How does your training change once you hit 40? Is it still possible to get into peak physical condition? (54:30) #Quah question #3 – Since you started focusing more on health than aesthetics, how have your lives changed or improved? (1:03:24) #Quah question #4 – Does getting sweaty mean you are getting good results? (1:12:10) People Mentioned Richard Gaspari (@richgaspari)  Instagram  Mark Bell (@MarkSmellyBell)  Twitter Joe DeFranco (@defrancosgym)  Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Prime & Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** Visit Skinny Dipped for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners!  **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Mind Pump 922: John Romano 15 Fitness Podcasts to Get You Pumped for the Gym A Mexican judge says 2 people can legally use cocaine — but they can't buy or sell it REPORT: Pollution from 15 of world's biggest ships equal that of world's 760m cars Natural painkiller found in human spit Watch Wayward Pines Streaming Online | Hulu MINDHUNTER | Netflix Official Site Attack on Titan | Netflix Study: Cannabis Chemical May Have ‘Major Impact’ On Pancreatic Cancer Treatment Airbnb Surpasses 400 Million Guest Arrival Milestone Gillette 'shifting the focus from social issues,' 'toxic masculinity' ads to 'local heroes' The association of grip strength from midlife onwards with all-cause and cause-specific mortality over 17 years of follow-up in the Tromsø Study Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND But we also talked about current events and ourselves, another one of our favorite topics. I love that topic. So the first 40 minutes of this episode was that introductory portion of this episode. We start out by talking about John Romano and Rich Gospari, two of our favorite people in the fitness space champion. They actually came in yesterday and did some podcasts. Anybody starting their own podcast?
Starting point is 00:00:39 We love those guys. John Romano wrote some of the best articles I've ever read. And Rich Gospari, I consider him one of the best uncrowned Mr. Olympias of all time. But they also ate a bunch of our skinny dipped almonds. Guys, the hell, they are hard to resist. Skinny dipped is one of our sponsors. We like skinny dipped almonds because it's mostly almond
Starting point is 00:01:00 with a little bit of chocolate. So the macro profile is really, really good. Like a kiss of chocolate. If you macro profile is really, really good. A chance of chocolate. If you go to skinnydipped.com.forstashmime.com and enter the code, mine pump, you'll get 20% off. Then Adam brings up how a certain supplement company is trying to work for us. How dare they?
Starting point is 00:01:19 We're not gonna sign a deal with Satan. Yeah, back away, Satan. Then we talked about how a judge in Mexico apparently said it's legal to have personal possession of cocaine. I know where we're going to party. Then we talked about how the 15 of the world's largest ships actually create more pollution than all of the cars in the world combine.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Holy ship. And it's all. Yes. then all of the cars in the world combine. Holy ship. In a cell. No, no. Yes. I talked about the secrets of saliva. That's right, there's some secrets behind your saliva. Adam brought up the show, Wayward Pines on Hulu, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Justin talked about mind hunter on Netflix. I talked about a study regarding cannabinoids and pancreatic cancer, some promising research there in animals. We talked about how Airbnb had one of their biggest days ever, we love Airbnb. And then we talked about Gillette and how they had to change their ad campaign, apparently talking shit to your consumer base is a bad strategy.
Starting point is 00:02:20 With it. We did to reverse that a little bit. And then we talked about how we got ranking in men's health from one of the top fitness podcasts. Thanks guys. Then we get the fitness portion of this episode. First fitness question, what is the importance of grip strength training? Like should you incorporate strengthening your grip in your workouts and you know, just
Starting point is 00:02:44 in an atom can't keep a secret and they revealed how we have a new program coming out It's coming in the next few days, but that's all we're gonna tell you We're not gonna tell you what it is. You're just gonna have to hang tight the next question How does your training change once you hit your forties? Is it possible to still get in peak physical condition since I'm the only 40 year old in the room? Yeah, although Justin is right behind me. Adam's coming up and resisting the fuck out of it. Adam is really resisting this. We talk all about trading as you get older. Next question, this person wants to know how things
Starting point is 00:03:17 have changed for us now that we focus more on health than aesthetics, now that we work out for a health versus aesthetics. And the final question, this person wants to know, if getting sweaty means you're having a good workout. Shwitty Betty. Also this month for the first time ever, maps prime and prime pro are both 50% off, they're both half off. Now maps prime teaches you how to prime your body properly
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Starting point is 00:04:26 these programs have tremendous value for you that you can present to your clients. Again, they're 50% off. Just go to mapsfitnessproducts.com and use the code prime50, that's PrIME50, no space for the discount. Who ate all these skinny dip bags? That's the answer, you're right. Oh, that's a Romano.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It wasn't me this time. No, it was, yeah, it was Romano and Gasparri, when they were here yesterday, they were chowing down on it. Really? Yeah. So they like our, the, the, the, the nitro coffee that we have at the front.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I think so that's what I'm looking at in front of me right now. Right now I see that they've got, looks like the, looks like the dark chocolate and the, and the nitro brew, peanut butter and the mint ones. I tried to hide the peanut butter ones, how'd they find those? I didn't, I can't believe there was some left, just then. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I think the dark, the dark chocolate of the mint goes the best with the coffee. Were they seriously munching on them yesterday? What about the podcasting? They were liking them. Yeah, we did four podcasts with them yesterday. And so they're hungry, right? So, yeah, they're podcasting hard.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Nothing better than some skinny dipped for a snack. Great. What a good time with him. I tell you what, I'm really, I'm actually really excited for their, their podcasts. Oh, dude, you don't know, man, for me, it's a, it's a treat. Like they were so, they're so grateful that we're, you know, we had them use our studio and all that. But for me, it's an honor. I've been reading Romano's articles for decades, and Gospari is one of the greatest. He's a legend.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Bodybuilders of all time, and they're both super nice, super humble, gracious people. Gospari at one point had one of the fastest growing supplement companies ever. I think what was he telling us? This company at one point was generating some tens of millions of dollars a month.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah. Insane, but now they're starting a podcast. I think what was he telling us his company at one point was generating like some tens of millions of dollars a month Yeah, insane But now they're starting a podcast. So it's just cool that we can help them do something and they're I'm sure they're gonna have great Information so it's a lot of fun. Yeah, we ain't in Mark Bell stop by two, which is great marks such a great He's such a nice dude. Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy good guy. Not a lot of people I think start off on the wrong foot with me and then win me over as much as he has. He brought that up by the way. He did? Yeah, so we were all in the studio. It was Romano, Gospari, me, and Bell, and we're all in here. They were talking about how he knew us for whatever. And he's like, yeah, he goes, the first time they interviewed me, he goes, I was on the phone
Starting point is 00:06:41 in my car, you know, my cell phone, and he goes, and they wouldn't let me live it down or whatever. He's joking about it. I'm like, you went to Silver, though, big time, you know, my cell phone and he goes and they wouldn't let me live it down or whatever He's joking about it. I'm like you I'm like you went a sober though big time You know, no true true. I was like 180. I feel like I have a pretty good read on people when I meet him And if I normally if I kind of don't like you when I first meet you, it's tough to win me. Oh, it's almost a hundred percent Yes, really tough shut you down, but Mark has definitely done that man He's for sure good people, really good dude. Nice of him to come by yesterday. He jumped on their podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Bro, he looks good. No, I know. He's like jacked even more than last in my song. He's been looking good for a while now. You know what he told me yesterday? That he eats his diet is like 80%, 80% to 90% carnivore. Yeah. Like almost he's like, I have some fruit sometimes
Starting point is 00:07:26 but that's pretty much a- Potatoes or whatever, but yeah, yeah, for the most part he's carnivore. I'm like, how do you maintain, that makes me shrink when I do that, you know what I mean? No, he definitely works. Yeah, speaking of supplement companies, you said you wanted to read-
Starting point is 00:07:38 Oh, I got something for you guys. Something special came in my inbox. So, what, just, just what two days ago, men's health highlighted us. So yeah, shout out to men's house. Call, call the flat, please. Recognizing, yeah, the same thing. Julie Michaels. Yeah, it's like a backhand accompaniment, right? Hey, you guys should have listened to that. DeFranco. He did an episode on it. It was so funny. He was going off about it because they, they, they, when they're writing the, the right of about his show and everything, they told him that he was a lot. He's like, really, the person that's told me
Starting point is 00:08:15 that's my wife. Oh, I saw that. Sometimes DeFranco is a lot. He's just a lot. He, the, the, the, the, well, you know what, I, I really appreciate the fact that men's health named us one of the best fitness podcasts. I thought that was really cool. Yeah, that was cool. Except they misspelled my name, but here's the annoying part about that. They didn't miss, most people misspelled my last name.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's understandable. This step in over, it's a long a tie in last name. I've never, ever seen Sal misspelled. Sal, Sal, Sal. But to El, Sal, you're so extra, you need an extra El. Justin was pumped because they announced him first right because everything else is like Sal just never happens. I was like I never saw him in Justin. Yeah, man. It was just it finally got it right just in the favorite Who's yeah, Adam and the other guy's out we can't even spell his name right?
Starting point is 00:09:01 We're the other guy now Wait a minute. You're the other guy now. What the hell's happening here? No, but I was another dimension. But it was kind of a backhanded compliment because it was, you know, I think we were number five of the 15 Must Listen 2 podcasts. And I was like, yeah, it's five's respectable, although I think we should be number one if it's around fitness.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And there's free field on there. And the Franko's the other two, I even like, but you acknowledge that. One of the podcasts was a music podcast. You got, how does that even compare? Yeah, you got Woop, the pod run one, and Julia Michaels and you just lost all credibility. Oh, yeah. I think I have to that, but now.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Shout out to, but because of that, of course, because MinSouth is so big, they, I mean, of course, I got a bunch of emails and one of the emails I received, I wanted to wait to share and read with you guys. Yeah, I'm excited because you're like, dude, we got a crazy offer or something like that. Yeah, on the podcast. So this comes from Julie.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I won't say her last name is a company. You guys will figure out a minute what she works. She says, hi, Adam, hope you're doing well. Congrats on being a new dad. Our team has been searching for the perfect type of people to partner with for an upcoming campaign with muscle tech. A world class leader in the supplement industry. We're very interested in working with you for this.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Aside from an educational component, your content generally makes me laugh. You really show your personality on a platform. You rarely catch a glimpse of a real person behind the camera. Are you open to discussing a collaboration? I can share some more details on the campaign themes, messaging, and other questions you might have. Look forward to hearing from you. Do me a favor, reply like this.
Starting point is 00:10:31 No thank you, Satan. We will not be working with... Stop tempting me. Hold on a second. Who owns Muscle Tech? A Chinese company. Really? A lot of them a while ago, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:42 What? Yeah, a big Chinese company bought them a long time ago. It's not Julie? No. No, so we're kidding. So hold on a second. Nice email. Muscle tech, the makers of cell tech,
Starting point is 00:10:51 the company that owns them, also owns Hydroxy Cut. Can I just say? Sanadrin, can I just say at 17, if I would have received this email? Oh, I would have, I would have been over the world. Over the moon, just this would have been the most amazing email
Starting point is 00:11:07 I ever could have received. Oh, there's the stats on them. They sold it. Wow. Hey, bro. No, that's wrong. That's wrong There's a that's not that's not the right number. They sold for 700 million. They can't be right in 2016 So yeah, no, I did I read it for it was 700 million I read somewhere else. We need that's Wikipedia that can't be wrong But the company that box is nothing, bro. They sold for five. No, there's no way. There's no way It has to we have to look up somewhere else dog. I don't think that's right But the company that owns them now is I can't I don't know if it pronounced right Z. Wang. I think it's She went, she went, oh baby when she moved, she moved. It's a Chinese, so yeah, so this work with Muscle Tech, the makers of all the supplements we rail against,
Starting point is 00:11:51 owned by the Chinese company, China being communist, I can't do it. I can't do it. Sorry, we can't go there. You can't do it. The ultimate. It couldn't pay us enough. We're way too capitals.
Starting point is 00:12:02 The ultimate sellout. So what do you want me to say back? Do you want me to say that? You can't afford us. Just be like, you can't actually do that. I're way too capitol the ultimate sellout. So what do you want me to say back? Do you want me to say that you can't afford us? Just be like you can't actually do that. I want to see what they how much they offer. Yeah, it's be like sorry They're like we're two hundred million dollars. We'd like to offer you One billion dollars. You're deal with us would literally have to be would be have to be so big that we retire because it would destroy our business The only reason why I'm afraid to say that because I'm afraid to get something back that's like,
Starting point is 00:12:25 are you sure you would get a lifetime of supplements and we give you 25% commissions on our field? No, then I've just angry, dude. Remember when working with muscle tech meant you were like big time. Bro, that was a standard, you made it. I had, I probably took more muscle, I took more nitro tech and cell tech
Starting point is 00:12:48 than probably any other supplement I've taken. Really? Yeah, no, if I look back at like all the brands that I went on as, I would say that that time frame for me, so I don't know what years that is, if I was around high school time for me, if I recall. Were they cell tech? Yes, of course, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:04 That was a big one for me. 75, I don't even take a lot of supplements and I took that. 75 grams of sugar was from Cratee. Yeah, the Cratee loading. They almost gave me diabetes. Yeah, that's what I knew you had the load. You need to pair that with a good simple version.
Starting point is 00:13:14 No, they have you load it like crazy. So you literally take like fucking 900 calories of sugar for every day for like great. You're like great. And then if you're a skinny guy trying to build a muscle like me, you're like, oh shit, I've already gained like two pounds this week. It's worth it. It's worth it, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:30 They have me sold, bro. We're going down and getting cell tech like by the jugs. Like I'd have four like I know. I'm not. Oh, yeah. No, always. Oh, dude, there's the Shawane company also owns a Zenodron. Remember Zenodron, the original Zenodron?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. That was a Fedra. That was good times. So they ownenodrin. Remember Xenodrin, the original Xenodrin? Yeah. That was a Fedra. That was good times. So they own Xenodrin and Hydroxycut. Hydroxycut, which is MuscleTech, right? Hydroxycut's MuscleTech. Wow, they bought both of those. They own Xenodrin and they own...
Starting point is 00:13:56 They make the two same products. Yeah, they own some other big name stuff that... I don't even know if they really even sell that much. Man, I would love to see the business curve on these guys. It would be interesting, because I tell you what, when high-dronks he cut and zenadrin were battling it out. There were big money. But shoot, big money.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I would love to see what they peaked at revenue wise and where they've landed now. Oh, it had to have been hundreds of millions of dollars. It had to have been. Fat burners were the new answer. Well, I mean, here you are. If Fedra hits the market and people are taking it and they're like, wow, I'm losing weight
Starting point is 00:14:33 because I'm not eating and I'm not sleeping. And so it was the first diet pill that actually made you lose weight. And I'm twitching every second. And they owned one and two. I didn't know that. Well, I don't know if they owned it then. I know that the the swing company now, it's a swing.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah, you have to say it like that. Yes. It's like the sound effect. You say a comic book. Swing, swing. Yeah, it's like a, it's like if you were reading a comic book and someone gets an erection. Swing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Swing. And that's what happens. Now that's from what's that show? Wayne's world. Wayne's world. Yeah, Wayne and Garth. Did they say they said how yeah, when I went on a hot chick would walk by You know old that movie is yeah Educating the youth anyway, wow, so we made it huh muscle tech coming after us. Yeah, yeah, I've right It's official isn't that funny how that all works though like I mean
Starting point is 00:15:22 I literally think that that if when I was a kid getting into working out, like that would just be unheard of. Oh, it would have been insane. Just crazy to think that like. I'm pretty sure they won't sign this now though. I've never dropped this episode. Really? Yeah, we're speeding on.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Probably not. Hey, speaking of supplements, cocaine. I saw that. Whoa, great one. Whoa. That's the next portion of, there you go. Like the fat burns and you go to cocaine. I saw on the forum that, did I read this right?
Starting point is 00:15:50 They legalize cocaine somewhere? It's not, okay, it's not, that's not 100%. It's not 100% what it was. Okay, okay, school me. So a Mexican judge ruled, this was a federal judge ruled for the first time that two petitioners can possess cocaine. Now this means that this doesn't mean that it's legal to sell or buy, but the fact that you have cocaine in personal use possession, this means that that is no longer illegal.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Now, I don't know. Bro, that's a big deal. How much? Well, I don't know if this is going to go, this is a federal judge, but this isn't necessarily mean it's like countrywide. It's just a new thing that may be going through a new standard. So you'll have to go to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:16:31 In Mexico. In Mexico. Okay. Wow. You know what though? Here's why I think they're looking at things this way. Mexico has had, they took a very aggressive stance on the drug war,
Starting point is 00:16:43 and all it did was cause way more violence with the drug cartels. And the argument that economists have made for a long time, Milton Friedman made this argument all the time. He said, indirectly, the jobs of the drug enforcement agencies is really to protect the drug cartels by eliminating competition. And if you really wanna take out these drug cartels by eliminating competition. And if you really want to take out these drug cartels,
Starting point is 00:17:08 violence isn't necessarily going to work. And in fact, oftentimes doesn't look at where we're at now. You really want to take them out, outcompete them. Right. Take their product away from them. I mean, it killed the illegal alcohol market was killed when alcohol became legalized. Well, we're watching this with marijuana.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. Now, I don't know if this is necessarily a better answer. Maybe. I mean, I'm in belief that I don't think it should be completely, you know, you know, market based. I think there should be some regulation. I just think extreme regulation in the form of prohibition is not the right direction. So I think if they legalized it in a way that was, you know, I don't know if alcohol, but it'd be interesting to see. I think I know Portugal basically decriminalized all personal possession of all drugs
Starting point is 00:17:58 and the result of that was less violence. There were less overdoses. So if they catch you, if they won't throw you in jail. Like, it's just like how they started marijuana. Same thing. That's how they started, started the process of legalizing marijuana. It was first you criminalize for just having. You couldn't sell it.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You couldn't grow it or make it, right? But you could possess it. So in other words, they just stop like, for example, no more of these, you get pulled over and you got a dime bag of marijuana in your pocket. Now you're going to jail for fucking a year. You know, no more of that bullshit. So it's basically happening that because it's kind of like this thing. It's like, you know, so many people do take marijuana. So many people do cocaine. And it's like, are we really going to keep imprisoning all these people that are just getting high? They're not hurting anybody else.
Starting point is 00:18:40 They're getting high on a on a on a Las Vegas weekend some bullshit stuff. And to be clear, if you do hurt someone because you're on drugs, that's the thing that should be illegal. Like stealing and hurting people, it's not the fact that you're... Or they pull you over and you're high out of your mind on the substance. Oh, you're driving, right?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yes, driving. Because that is, you know, very dangerous. And public intoxication, I don't mind those laws, you know what I mean? You want to get drunk and smashed, stay in your house. Right. If you want to, I'm outside with my kids at the park walking around. Nothing in public. Yeah, that's, I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You're putting other people in danger, right? Yeah, I totally agree with that. But it's interesting as soon as this judge said, hey, legal possession is decriminalized, new business proposals exploded in Mexico. We've got all these new, new, new, new business. These night clothes. All these are popping up everywhere.
Starting point is 00:19:27 All these new business ideas. Yeah. Instead of nowhere. Hey, was she going to work together? Yeah. I got a great idea. You know what I read. I wanted to ask you if you've actually
Starting point is 00:19:35 read anything to support this. I thought this was really interesting. It was on one of the, I think it was the Black Rifle Coffee Guy. And it was an article talking about pollution. And I thought this was because we've talked about pollution recently. And you were talking about pollution. And I thought this was because we've talked about pollution recently and you were talking about these
Starting point is 00:19:47 famous people like, you know, fucking fly over on their private jets and talk about. Yeah, like who's the biggest offender? Right. And the article was that 15 of the world's largest ships pollute the earth more than all the cars in the world. Yeah, when it comes to certain pollutants like sulfur,
Starting point is 00:20:07 that's true. That's insane. Isn't that true? He said, the article said that one of these ships. This is true. I've looked this up. So if you don't believe us, you can pause and go to Google and look this up from a, from, and when it comes to particular pollutants like sulfur dioxide
Starting point is 00:20:23 and I can't remember the other one, they produce way more. And it's because they burn heavy oil or this it's a type of oil that's not refined Cars produce a very refined type of oil and so these 15 ships Just pollute the fuck one one ship is supposed to do more damage than 50 million cars. Dude, how have they made it that far without being like super regulated and changed that problem? Now, I hear that, well that's also where all the fucking illegal stuff comes to.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Uh huh. Yeah. You know, in talk about protecting the drug market and shit. So I hear that and I just, you know, I laugh when I see these other articles that are coming up where people are trying to make the case for fucking cows farting. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah. You were talking about cows farting. Yes. And then 15 ships that we could like get it a one ship. One ship would probably handle like all the pollution of all the fucking cows farting bro. Yeah. Well, that's just such a terrible fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Here's the thing though, it's not that easy, right? Because these massive ships, they ship a lot of our products and things between countries. What we don't realize is this, is that the world is so heavily dependent on petroleum and oil, that if we were to just pass crazy, these kind of laws, like, okay, okay that's it we need to get rid of three of these ships it would dramatically reduce the quality of life for a lot of people I don't
Starting point is 00:21:50 mean like quality of life like oh I don't have like nice things I mean a lot of poor people will become so poor that they'll starve it's it's not as easy as people think it's way more complicated it just points me to innovation why don't they look into innovative ways to reduce? Amazon. Yeah, reduce that pollution. Well, okay. Amazon's moving their way. Well, here's the thing, there are lots of regulations
Starting point is 00:22:12 in there that make it more difficult to innovate. Yes, that's the thing. But here's the second thing. Let's say for a second that a form of energy was discovered that was cheaper, easier to transport and store, and more plentiful than oil. Let's say, and this is true now, I know people arguing like, no, the sun,
Starting point is 00:22:28 no, no, no, bullshit. Nuclear power. Yeah, now the problem with the sun is that, you know, you can capture that energy, storing it and transporting it, you lose lots of energy, it's not reliable. If there was something that was reliable, cheap and plentiful, the market would adopt it immediately. If I'm a company, if I'm a big company,
Starting point is 00:22:45 and I could find an alternative energy source, that was cheaper, more plentiful and easier to transport, I would outcompete my competitors by simply switching. Switching it up, yeah. So if it existed, it would happen, it just doesn't. It doesn't, it's not there. It's not nearly as simple as people think it is. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So it's way more complicated. But I like that you brought that up because you have all these celebrities like, Leonardo Capriol's my favorite. You know, love the guys and actor, great actor, but he needs to stop with his, you know, his virtue signaling with his massive, you know, $300 million yachts that he ingets and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:23:19 As he's flying around lecturing everybody, come on bro, you want to really help just stop that. Just stop that one thing right there. So funny. bro, you want to really help. Just stop that. Just stop that one thing right there. So funny. Anyway, dude, I read an interesting article on saliva. Oh, really? Yeah. What's upon this?
Starting point is 00:23:33 So random. Great transition. You like that? You swap and spit and read and it's just like that. So there are, so you know how you cut yourself instinctually, you want to put your mouth on it, you know when you're a kid or whatever. Yeah, you want to instantly right You ever wonder why we do that like why do we instinctly?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, my assume my assumption of that is that to keep it clean right like if you were to slice your hand back in the days and Bacteria or something where to get in it it would get an infection So my thought is the net the initial reaction when you get a wound like that And I it may be the same reason why dogs do it too, if you have a wound, they lick it and clean. I think that's a source away. It's called like thicken the blood. What's up?
Starting point is 00:24:13 To help it regulate. Yeah, it's quite. There are enzymes in saliva that do help stop bleeding. So that's one of them. And then there's also a compound that they've identified in saliva that's actually a more powerful pa then there's also a compound that they've identified in saliva that's actually a more powerful painkiller than any of the opiates we have on the market. Right. Yes. That's interesting. Yeah, and actually I can pull up the name of it,
Starting point is 00:24:34 because I can't remember what the name was, but they're looking at this compound and they're trying to figure out how they can develop it and use it as a painkiller. Isn't that weird? Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's called Opieo Orfen. Opie Orfen, that's what it is. It's a painkiller that's six times more powerful than morphine.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Now, when you saliva. Now, if it works with your receptors that receive like opiates and stuff, just like vikin and drugs like that, that's kind of crazy. And when you say that, like opiates and stuff, just like vikin and or you know, drugs like that, that's kind of crazy. And when you say that because that also makes me think this is also what makes like kissing and making out so great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah. Think about that. You're swapping all this saliva or a French kiss act. That's when you get opiate, it's a euphoric positive feeling that you get happiness. It's the same. When you get happy feeling like that, you get this rush of opiate, right? So that's the same concept. I would think if you were making out with somebody,
Starting point is 00:25:29 and this is guy brass. And they have this saliva, that's part of what makes that so great too. Well, when it comes to kissing, because that's an interesting one too, while we kiss each other on the mouth that way, evolutionary scientists think that we're actually tasting each other's genetic compatibility.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So when you kiss someone, we know they always say you know when you kiss someone or they're sparks. You ever kiss somebody that you think you like and you kiss and you're like, man, I don't think I like you. Or other times, maybe I like her, you kiss her and you're like, wow, I really like her. They, that you're able to actually test
Starting point is 00:26:03 your gene compatibility through the saliva. So as you're kissing, you're picking up on whether or not you guys are compatible, genetically speaking to procreate is one of the reasons. Kind of weird, right? So much math going on, Amy. Well, there's a lot of stuff that happens when we're not conscious of.
Starting point is 00:26:20 You know, that we just do, that we think is weird. Like, here's another one. You ever see a, when you see a cute baby You ever like grit your teeth or you're very see every here people say like oh, I just want to bite his little cheeks No, I need a little hand or something like that. I wanted to ask you that I think we you mentioned it off air And I do that with the dogs when I go to when I'm a friend of dogs. Yeah, you're a team I grip my teeth really hard like it to the point and I'm aware of it now That it trips me out every time I do it like why do I do that? Yes, I'd same same thing here if it's like a baby like a chubby little baby
Starting point is 00:26:51 You just want to like non their little arm the little chubby arm and it's a weird thing to say It's a weird thing to say that everybody knows what I'm talking about so I look to sub once and they're not quite sure why we do I'm dog of dough, but they're not quite sure why we do. A log of dough. But they're not quite sure why we do it, but one of the theories is that, you know, for most of human history, babies, obviously when they started eating solid food, they couldn't chew on solid food. I figured it just like birds, right?
Starting point is 00:27:15 We had to kind of probably chew it for them to help them digest it. We had to chew it and then spit it out and feed them with, that's how we made baby food, basically. That's so weird, is that true? We'd chew it. I'm glad we moved on from there. Hey Doug, I had a question. Did you, have you been watching the wayward pines?
Starting point is 00:27:31 I have. How far are you? I think I'm an episode number four or so. Oh, you're still, you're still slowly getting through. Okay, why is it good? It is good, it's really good. This is Hulu, right? Yeah, Hulu, it's on there. It only made two seasons.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And the second season, I think maybe Doug slow down because I kind of ruined it for him. The second season, I'm like, the second season, I'm less interested in. And my sister keeps selling me on. Stay with it, but she's like, because all the things that you don't like about it right now, they kind of, they put it all together for you,
Starting point is 00:28:03 and it makes more sense. She's like, because I was like, the second season's got's going and it just, the first season was fire. Like it was super. It's, you know, you said like this, the producers from Stranger Things were somewhat like a part of it. They're involved in it. And it's a M night shaman or whatever M night shaman. Yeah, that guy, you know, say M night shaman.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Is that how you say it? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's the one who wrote it. So he wrote it, and then the stranger things guys worked on it too. So, M. Knight is hit or miss for me. He is. Sometimes he's got some fire out there though.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah, but the ones he hits, he hits hard. Well, he always tries to do that twist at the end of the time. And too much. Well, that's, I think that's how it's, the feeling you get from this show is that, to me, the first season, it's a home run. It's you get the feeling you get from this show is that he to me the first season It's a home run. It's just the whole season was great I benge the shit out of it
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's not that often where a show can get me like where I want to watch the whole thing in a week this time He got that for me and then the season second season I just kind of it kind of lost it a little bit for me I'm a little and my sister was the one who turned me on to it and she's like you got to keep watching it. She's like gets better gets better I'm like mind hunter if you guys watch that yet love it great show Yeah, dude, it gets all into the psychology of serial killers and then they basically interview these serial killers and then trying to apply those Those same methods that they describe to to catch other ones that are out.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Bro, you're into like, demented people. Yeah, I wanna figure them out. Bro, hold on there. No, I'm gonna get a little worried over you. No, I got my radar. I got my like, you know, antenna out. Like I'm looking for these motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:29:37 You sure you're not like, ah, why do I, why do I have these thoughts? Is this normal? Let me see what he's out there. No, I'm not guessing myself. A lot of that show too, Justin is based off of real events too, right? Yes. So, well, it's some of the shit in terms of like, yeah, the show of it, but yeah, they, they re-enact a lot of like the true accounts. Like, it took a lot of, not merely Manson, Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yeah. And they also, like, like, so serial killers was even a real thing. Like, that was, that was like the 60s or 70s. Yeah, like it was, it was a, it was a, well, I mean, the worst. Well, they were there, but they didn't really, no, that's, I mean, nobody was willing to go, like, actually interview them and be like, and get into the details of why they did with them.
Starting point is 00:30:19 They didn't make them celebrities, like they did later on. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, no, well, they weren't like. So Charles Manson was like a celebrity, but it was like, I don't know on some weird level where they were like trying to basically reverse engineer everything that was involved with it. So this brings up an important point that there's a psychological phenomenon that happens.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Doug brings up Jack the Ripper. He was one of the more famous serial killers back in the day. There's a psychological phenomenon that happens. Doug brings up Jack the Ripper. He was one of the more famous serial killers back in the day. There's a psychological phenomenon that happens with people who are on the brink. Okay, so when you have a society as big and connected as ours, right? How many people in America? I don't know how many hundreds of millions of people in America, 300 million I think? 350. 350. 350, thanks Doug, last time you counted. So my census. So 350 million people in America alone, there's gonna be even if it's half of a half of a half of percent of people who are on the brink that still accounts
Starting point is 00:31:14 for thousands of people. And sometimes all it takes is a little nudge. And so what you had like the phenomenon that happened in the 60s and 70s is you had serial killers getting all this publicity kind of becoming celebrities and it spurred more of... Copycat. Yes, lots of other people to start becoming serial killers.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Some psychologists think this is what happens with mass shootings as well. You'll have one mass shooting, it gets all this publicity and then you get all these other people who are crazy on the brain who are like, that looks like a good idea because we don't really hear about serial killers anymore Do we know it's not it's not like a phenomenon right now the phenomenon now is mass shooting
Starting point is 00:31:51 Well, that might be purposeful too and they kind of go into that in the show a little bit like with one of the serial killers He's like he's like yeah, so you guys have figured this out for the ones that you've actually caught You know, but that there's a lot more out there, like using these same tag. Crazy. Well speaking of TV shows, so you guys ever watch anime? You guys ever watch like cartoon anime? A kind of stuff?
Starting point is 00:32:13 Nope. Yeah, so just the porn. Yeah, sometimes. The ones with tentacles. So I don't really watch it either, but there was one that I watched a long time ago. I feel like you're lucky. I swear, it was called Attack on Titan. I feel like you're lying. I swear.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It was called Attack on Titan. You guys ever hear about this one? No. Anyway, it was all, it was real popular. No. I watched a long time ago and when my son was, this was a huge mistake on my part. It was a big, one of my biggest regrets ever. As a parent, you'll learn this ad.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I'm sure Justin's already had this moment. Okay, let's hear it. You're going to do something to your kid and then for the rest of your life, you're going to be like, did I scar him? You know, did I? I don't know. I think that one thing I did might have ruined him. So anyway, I Totally misjudged. I thought my son was old enough. He was like nine It's just saying it now so ridiculous. Anyway, this anime is for adults and it shows like it's kind of scary It shows some horrid shit like there's these big monsters called Titans
Starting point is 00:33:05 and they're big humanoid-looking things and they walk around naked, but they have no genitals and they eat people and they'll eat them. Yeah, that's appropriate. Sounds terrible. I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. I think I was trying to be cool. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:18 I work cool, right, buddy? I think it's like nine or 10. So I showed them an episode and it traumatized the fuck out of them. I remember when we watched it and one of the humanoid monsters picked something. They have these weird looking smiles on their faces. Oh my god, bro. He fell wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And he couldn't sleep for like three or four days. Look at that shit. Of course, dude, Justin in the top left. Tell me that shit's like, yeah. Yeah. Look at all those teeth, man. Yeah. The fuck out of this will not be a problem for me.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Because I don't like scary. So I felt I felt so bad right so ever so so recently my son's been getting into anime It's a thing for I guess his friend him and his friends so I'm like, hey You want to watch that one that I showed you when you were a kid is like no, I don't want to watch it Yeah, it's cool. I'm like is this still bothering you's like yeah Yeah, I'm gonna what I'm like come on. Let's watch so I made him watch it So that because I want him to get over the fear and maybe make myself feel better.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah. So we watched a couple episodes and, you know, we're kind of getting into it. And so then he's like, oh, I'll show you an anime. And he shows me this fucking weird cartoon. There's like no plot. So we're having this big old debate and argument over which one's better.
Starting point is 00:34:21 But it's kind of cool. So we're bonding over it. So I feel a little bit better now. This trauma is now bonded you. Yeah, I like it. So I feel a little bit better now. Is trauma is now bonded you. Yeah, I like that. I'm feeling a little bit better now. Oh, yeah, so anyway. Okay, so I got to study for you guys.
Starting point is 00:34:32 This is kind of cool. I think this is at a Harvard University. I'm gonna pull it up just so I can make sure I don't get it wrong. That there was this study that showed that they tested this on mice now. I'm gonna pull this up here. Researchers at Harvard University used the treatment based on cannabinoids to treat mice with pancreatic cancer, and it killed all the tumor cells in 70% of the mice. Yes, 70% of the mice actually cured or killed all of the tumor cells. And this
Starting point is 00:35:08 is a form of paper that you killed the mice. No, that's what it's out. Did it sound like you said that for a second of the tumors, my bad. Yeah, I think it's hard like you said, you killed the mice. It's just how cool is that. Yeah, it's great. I know other ways. It killed the tumor cells in 70% of the mice. Wow. So, seven out of 10 of the mice got cured essentially of the pancreatic cancer with these cannabinoids that they developed in lab based off of the cannabinoids that they find in marijuana.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So, like a super concentrated amount? Yeah, it's a compound that they dubbed FBL-03G. And so this is what I've always thought. I've always thought that. What's science for those acronyms? I've always thought, remember that. Because cannabinoids have an interesting effect on cancer.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They're anti-cancer. And so I thought to myself, what they're probably going to do is figure out what's anti-cancer about them and then synthesize something that's way more powerful and doesn't have psychoactive effects. And then that'll eventually turn into a cancer drug and it looks like they did that with mice.
Starting point is 00:36:12 This is crazy because this particular type of pancreatic cancer kills typically 93% of the mice that they'll have. So you can get away from all this like commercial bullshit of CBD and get back to like these like exciting new Medical advancements that we can now play with you know, it's said that it is like the the horizon looks so much better Well, I mean, it's one of the reasons why I've invested in companies that are in Canabinoid research specifically because of that because I see this and I think I'm not only at anytime soon But I think we're looking at within 10 to 15 years, cannabinoid treatment, I believe will be something
Starting point is 00:36:51 that will be in the future. But now we're focused in that direction, yeah, which will create some opportunities. Well, see, the problem with coming up with a drug is, it's expensive to come up with a new drug, a new class of drugs. It's extremely, it's a huge gamble. The regulations alone, they're not a testing you have to do
Starting point is 00:37:08 to get it passed. It could cost hundreds of millions of dollars. And so what companies typically do is they'll go with a sure thing. So they'll say, well, we know this chemo is already approved. Let's tweak it a little bit. Just a little different variation of it. Yeah, they're not gonna go in a completely new space.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah. So this is kind of interesting to me So I think that's kind of cool. I have a core article that has nothing to do with science that you know I'm this show I think we've talked about it's been a while since we've talked about this But I've always been really fascinated in the Airbnb and VRBO market, you know, I've been renting homes like that when we traveling Sometimes Katrina and I stay in nice hotels, but for the most part, we tend to rent houses and we now as a business,
Starting point is 00:37:48 we've done, been doing this for the last five years consistently. And I've really watched the evolution of it, man. I remember when you first would rent a house if you were going somewhere and it definitely felt like, you know, the people who own the house were just not there that weekend and you were staying in their place.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Like, their picture frames were up on the wall, their clothes are still in their closet, stuff like that. You got to deal to stay at this nice house or whatever. And it was kind of, I don't know, a different feel to it. It's still cool that you could get into a nice house like this for such a cheap price. But it's become such a huge market that a lot of big players have come in and now bought these properties up and they're specifically just for Airbnb or VRBO and it's more of like that hotel experience but in like a luxury home and they just
Starting point is 00:38:36 passed their 11 years so it's been 11 years that Airbnb is around and they had a big milestone and in one day, four million people were staying in an Airbnb. Wow. One day. One day? Yeah. Woo. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:38:51 You want to talk about a disruptive technology market. Yeah. Like, if you're changing the game, if you're a hotel, you know, that's got to scare the shit out of you. It's got, I don't think it'll kill hotels. Hotels have their own. Well, I think there are nows. I don't think you have to figure a way to compete.
Starting point is 00:39:05 But it'll take a market share. Well, they get already has. Yeah, oh yeah, it already has. The shitty part is, you know, and we were talking off air about this, because, you know, we're looking at properties to invest and do something similar. And, you know, one of the things that we have to look out for
Starting point is 00:39:20 is there's fucking people lobbying, obviously hotels, lobbying against this and trying to shut that down for certain cities. Make it so that it's illegal, so that you can't. Write your own damn house. This is so fucking stupid. Yeah, it's so dumb. Yeah, because they're, of course,
Starting point is 00:39:35 they're, they're, they're scared. Instead of being competitive with it, going like, oh, I guess we have to respond and either make our hotel experience better or significantly cheaper. So it's better for the consumer. Now let's lobby, let's use our millions of dollars to lobby against it and find a way to fucking
Starting point is 00:39:51 not allow them to come in. Like that's such a weak guess way. It's stupid. It's the same way they try to control Uber and Lyft and there's companies that will allow you to have dinner at someone's house. So if you're traveling, let's say you go to New Orleans,
Starting point is 00:40:05 and you're like, I want authentic, you know, southern food or authentic food, you know, from that from that area, you could go to someone's house. They've got reviews from other people, just like a an Uber would, and hang out with people and get home cooked meal. They're trying to pass regulations against that. Of course, they don't want that to happen. It kills, it's decentralizing, it's what it is. And this is one of the risks of allowing government just to really regulate the market. As soon as that happens, it becomes very valuable to influence the shit out of government
Starting point is 00:40:36 because now they can protect your business or whatever, kind of crazy. So you guys remember Gillette when they did that whole. Oh, God. Yeah, okay. Tell me they're getting better in terms of their marketing because that last they did that whole oh God. Yeah, okay Tell me they're getting better in terms of their marketing is that last commercial did not we meal? Yeah, when they went from the whole you know toxic masculinity Yes, you know ads and all that stuff. Well apparently that you know hurt their business a lot. Oh it did yeah Apparently it hurt a lot of their business they Interesting. You insult the fucking majority of your consumers.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Your entire customer base. Yeah, weird. Like mineral assholes. Yeah, let's campaign against this. So now they're coming out. They're still you razors. Yeah, now they're coming out with a new campaign about local heroes.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So now I already seen it, bro. I've already I've saw that they've been, it's been running now for at least two or three months on TV where it's like, you know, it's like, it's fire fighter. Yes, yes. And I told Katrina when we watched them like, look at this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:41:31 They went the opposite direction so hard. If I bet if I totally called this when I saw this on TV, this was actually a couple months ago and it was exactly that, it was a firefighter. They pick like a local firefighter and they do the whole fucking music and shit like that and they he tells his story And it's a great story, you know, and you know it it's really cool
Starting point is 00:41:48 And you know what that's where you should have went the first time you dumbasses. Yeah That's how you should stuff that that's how you should have marketed But now it looks bad in my opinion because it looks like you went you went the other direction Sorry, and so you're totally the the same customer We still like you. The hardcore conservative firefighter, masculine type of guys guy that you insulted, you're now marketing to this way.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And it's like, you know what, any of them that are paying attention that have half a brain are gonna see that and probably be insulted by it just as much. So, fuck you, let's do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop. Maybe what if they want to work with them?
Starting point is 00:42:26 $shame club all day. I don't know, we're not even sponsored by them, but fuck Jolette. I'll go that direction. Yeah, and when they were first doing those ads, I remember watching, being like, how was this gonna, what do you think you're gonna do? I think what they were thinking is,
Starting point is 00:42:38 hey, you know, they're wives by most of the products for them. Maybe if we do this, I'm serious. You know, women make up, they're the biggest consumer base. Yeah, because the guys grab in the shavings, right? Because they grow street shop, you know what I'm saying? And you tell your, you tell white people, like, how, could you pick up me up some of those Gillette razors? I mean, that's exactly how it goes down in my house.
Starting point is 00:42:54 You know what I'm saying? I know she's shopping and I go, hey, huh? And could you pick up, I need some more razors. Yeah. But every guy that got offended by that, he's just like, hey, you know what? You know what? Don't worry about them razors actually. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:43:53 training, and how to improve grip? I find since my grip is weaker, it limits my deadlift and how long I can do heavy lunges, et cetera. I don't want to resort to wraps, but should I until I build a better grip? Who picked this question? I did, Justin over here. Alluding to grip.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Alluding to our new program. Do we have a new program coming out? Ah! I was like, oh, there's so many cool grip exercises in this new program, I have to at least highlight it. You guys cannot keep a secret. I can't. You know, that's why I want to open the present.
Starting point is 00:44:22 That's why I asked about that, because this is the first program that, and we could talk about some exercises that actually improve grip, but this is the first program that we actually put emphasis on that. Yeah, well, it's specific to the program. You know, it's funny, when we talk about grip, there's studies now that show that when doctors are testing people to see what their, all cause mortality rates may be moving forward, they do lots of tests, right?
Starting point is 00:44:50 They do blood tests, they test your cholesterol, they test your blood pressure, and they're finding that testing strength is one of the better predictors. Yes, the best option they found. It is, it's a simple test. The patient's strength. And if they're weak based off of whatever metric they've developed, they say, okay, your
Starting point is 00:45:10 chance is just off based off that one test, it actually predicts better than any other single test. I'm not talking about combining all the other tests. I'm talking about just any single test. It can actually predict mortality. Well, I also love, you know, Joe DeFranco bringing up like using that for HRV and like as far as your readiness, like, you know, testing your grip for the day and like seeing where you're at. Well, I was just going to say that. I was just going to say that you want to test
Starting point is 00:45:33 strength. The problem that doctors have is how do we test their strength? And they found that the easiest way to do it was with grip. And then DeFranco did bring that up that, you know, waking up in the morning, testing your grip strength. Is it he found to be a great predictor of whether or not I should work out hard today? That was so, that was so, and such a, so brilliant, so, so brilliant and so easy. Like, I wish I had that knowledge if I was still training clients. Like that is something 100% if you're a trainer listening right now, what a cool way to separate yourself from your peers because I don't know, I don't know any gyms
Starting point is 00:46:06 that I've got a trainer that's doing that. No, you know, that's a success. I never did. That's a success. Now I never did either, but I totally would now. Like after talking to Joe and how he implements it and then knowing that, that's one of those great indicators and knowing like how valuable like HRV,
Starting point is 00:46:21 the theory of HRV can be for, you know, presenting or changing or modifying your program. What a cool way if you had a little squeeze test thing. And I think I would probably do it just as simple as like, either having one that measures the pounds of pressure that they could squeeze, or like even something as simple as squeezing and holding a quarter for time, right? You could be like someone's squeeze and hold the quarter,
Starting point is 00:46:42 you know, they pinch a quarter in between the thing and hold on to it. What do you mean a quarter like a quarter quarter? Yeah, you put it, you know, you have, you know, those grip, the little grip things. Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. Yeah, oh, you're talking about like you get a little gripper and you put the quarter in between the handles. Yeah, oh, I thought you meant in your hand. I'm like, should only do that for like 30 seconds a minute or like that. And you could probably, if you don't have a tool that actually measures the pounds of pressure
Starting point is 00:47:10 they're creating, you could probably go off of time, how long they can get. Oh, that's smart. That's what I mean. I like that because that doesn't require any special measuring equipment. Right, you go buy one of those at like your local sports basement type of place, get one and then.
Starting point is 00:47:22 You develop a baseline? Yeah, you develop what would be good for them, right? You'd have to probably measure them for consistent for probably a month or a couple more. So you figure out what their baseline is, and if they're lower than the baseline, you know, okay, today's workout's gonna be less intense. Right, I would take the average of probably two weeks
Starting point is 00:47:37 of testing almost every time they come in and see me, I would see the high, the low, and then like you said, find out what the baseline is. That's smart. And then I would just dictate that like where they land. You know why I like that better than HRV? Because HRV doesn't take into account stress. Your own perceived emotion.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Your own perceived, you know, how you feel or whatever. Just strength alone. I mean, I could, everything could be healthy, but I could be feeling sad or whatever. And that will affect my strength. You know what I'm saying? Right. It's more of a, it's more, I feel like it's based. And it's so simple.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's really happening. So simple. So, you know, here's the thing with grip. Humans, we are supposed to have very strong grips. First off, we're primates. We're, you know, we're related to monkeys. Monkeys, obviously known for the very, very strong grips. Our hands are very, we can articulate very well with them.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And we are tool makers of all the animals in the world. We are the tool makers. We manipulate things with our hands. The problem is we don't really do anything hard or heavy with our hands anymore. And you see a lot of the issues that people have nowadays with chronic pain is in their hands and their wrists. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And it's not because they're doing hard labor, it's because their hands and wrists are weak and they're typing and that hurt them. That's familiar, yeah, with actual stress. Yes, so here's a thing, first and foremost, just lifting weights, free weights, without using any hand grip aids like wrist straps, that alone will improve your grip tremendously.
Starting point is 00:49:05 If you don't lift weights at all and then you go lift weights, you'll notice your hands getting fatigued and getting stronger just from gripping the weight. So that's number one. Number one, don't use wrist straps. Just lift weights and just use your hands and use free weights. Free weights will strengthen your hands more than the machines. Well, just because you have to balance and just picking up and holding heavy weights is going to do a whole lot for you.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I wanted to highlight two exercises though from this program, I think that we're, I don't know if a lot of people are familiar with, like the pinch grip farmer walks and rice bucket exercises. Those are great. I know, was it you, Adam, that brought up the rice bucket exercise, because I've never done that before, and I was like loving it when I was demonstrating it. Yeah, so explain how that works to the audience. Yeah, no, we just get a five gallon bucket,
Starting point is 00:49:49 like a paint bucket, and then go get one of those like 20 pound bags from Costco or whatever of rice and you just pour the rice inside there. And you're just, you're extending and flexing all, you're moving them through the rice. Yeah, put your high hand in there. You're opening up, spreading your fingers,
Starting point is 00:50:04 closing, making fist, opening as wide as you can. And you know, that's an old Kung Fu practice. Did I ever tell you guys that? No. Yeah, they did it with, they would do it with gravel, and then they'd move up to bigger and bigger rocks as heavier and heavier resistance to strengthen their fingers and hands.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But rice is, that's great for the average person. Yeah, I was watching, God, what was it? Some old ESPN film, they used to do like, you know, putty with their fingers to get their hands really, really strong, I don't know what I was watching that they did this, but yeah, and it's that same concept. I mean, I think it's been around, but it's probably it's an ancient practice, I imagine.
Starting point is 00:50:38 But man, it's incredible. So I mean, and I used to have clients that have like carpal tunnel or issues like that, any sort of wrist issues too. So, you know, strengthening all the muscles around the joint is always, or typically an ideal situation when you've got joint issues. So, strengthening your flexors and extenders
Starting point is 00:50:55 and all your forearm muscles, the rice, but look at this incredible. Here's another old school one. And I used to do this with newspaper. Newspapers not so common anymore, but you could use just a big piece of paper, but just take a newspaper, a piece of paper, and start and put it on a table or whatever,
Starting point is 00:51:11 and start crumpling it from one end and slowly crumple it with just one hand until you've crumpled it into a big tight ball and then squeeze it. So that articulation, that movement, helps work on strength. And that's really what it's about. It's all those little articulations of gripping
Starting point is 00:51:25 and grabbing onto something and like really squeezing that or just like moving and articulating your fingers so you get all those little muscles to work. Right, there's also using plates and gripping the plates with your fingers flat. So yeah, that's the pinch grip, right? Hold it and squeeze and hold and do that for time. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Another one you can do is you can get a, rough, of course, of course, a great one. Another one is you could take an offset dumbbell. So it's almost like a dumbbell, but it just has weight on one side. Hold that in your hand at arm's length and then work your wrist in different angles.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Because it's not just flexion and extension, you also have lateral flexion and extension. That's where your hand kind of moves side to side. Those muscles are also important. That's the fun movement. Yes, those muscles are also important. We also included in that program. Then we do the hang where you're switching grip,
Starting point is 00:52:17 switch grip on the hang. Switch grip. Yeah, so just hanging from like a pull-up bar and switch gripping back and forth. So going from pronated to supinated back and forth on your hands and trying to hold up there as long as just holding your body weight up on a bar like that. And then you if you're also switching from pronated to supinated. It used to be that one of the fundamental ways that a man's strength was measured was through his grip. How strong his hands were. If you shook a man's hand,
Starting point is 00:52:43 if you're wrestled and you felt his grip, I wrestled in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu for a long time and I'll tell you something right now, somebody's got a strong grip, they have an advantage. If their grip is a lot stronger than you, they have an advantage. Even if you do combat without a ghee, that they grab your wrist, you could feel that strength.
Starting point is 00:53:01 My dad's worked with his hands his whole life and he came in here the other day with my uncle, and I think Christian was in here, and he had met my dad yet, so my dad shakes his hand, and he goes, oh, shit, you were lying. His hand's like a brick. And it's like that's because he's been using his hands for so long.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And what was that one study I posted a long time ago that they showed that the average man's grip strength was declining tremendously over the last 20 or 30 years, like a big percentage. No, and how do you work it out? I would say this, just like any other muscle, you can create targeted grip work about two to four days a week.
Starting point is 00:53:36 So two to four days a week, three to six sets of some kind of grip work would be plenty of work for your grip. Start slow though. I've had a few people message me and say, hey, I really want to get my grip stronger. And I've been doing all these, you know, I've been doing, you know, six sets, three days a week on my hands and now my elbows are sore and my hands are sore. So, okay, you started from nothing to that.
Starting point is 00:53:57 It's way too fast. Start slow, just like any muscle. Slowly progress yourself and then watch what happens. And what you'll end up finding is your back exercises will get better, your presses will get better. A lot of people don't think that grip will affect your pressing, but it does. Justin talks about this all the time.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Heavy bench pressing and overhead pressing, you have that strong grip, it makes a big difference. And then, you know, I talked about grappling, striking. If you're a boxer or you punch, a strong grip will make your punch that much harder. Bruce Lee was a huge advocate of grip training. Next question is from Galea Matt. How does your training change once you hit 40?
Starting point is 00:54:34 Is it still possible to get into peak physical condition? Oh, only one of us is 40. Yeah, that's right. I'm getting there soon. You know, it's funny. It's how it sounds. How's it going, so? It's funny to be. What's it like over there? Yeah, what's it on that side? It's right. I'm getting there soon. You know, it's funny. It's how it's going. It's funny that it's like over there. Yeah, what's it on that side?
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's great. No, it's funny that it's like you hit a number and all of a sudden everything's supposed to change. I really started noticing changes in my performance right around mid to late 30s is when I started to kind of notice a little bit of a difference. And really the difference I noticed was I required more care in my mobility work,
Starting point is 00:55:09 and I wasn't able to get away with as much as I could before. In other words, I wasn't able to over-apply intensity before and then come back from it. Like now, if I over-apply intensity, it takes a little bit longer. I just think you have to be more, you have to apply your wisdom. I mean, you know, you have to be a little bit longer. I just think you have to be more, you have to play your wisdom. I mean, you have to be a little smarter. When you're 20, and that's one of the hardest things too, I think even for our message that we talk about in the show,
Starting point is 00:55:34 is why we, our average listener is, I think, the average listener's age is like 30 to 35-ish, right? It's because I think the message resonates so much with somebody at that age, and when you're 20 something, you're like, oh yeah, these guys are cool, they're dropping some good information, but they're bunch of pussy's. I still train like this, you know what I say?
Starting point is 00:55:52 And I think to myself, I probably would have been the same way. You know, 25, I heard these guys say, like, oh, you gotta really take your time and think about this and work on that mobility. Drip shy failure. Yeah, exactly. Two reps, but yeah. Exactly. Those type shy failure. Yeah, exactly. Two reps, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Exactly. Those type of statements that we make constantly on the show, I think when you're 25, maybe even early 30s, you kind of just roll your eyes about that. And then 40, you go, oh, fuck. This is what they mean. This is what they were talking about. And really, the way it looks like for me is that my joints tend to be the things that scream at me.
Starting point is 00:56:25 That's the things that really really start to tell me like, okay, like you're not 20 years old anymore, you can't get away with stupid shit like that, you have to apply all your knowledge. That's the key word is get away. This doesn't mean that training a particular way in your 20s, it's more effective and now I can't train the more effective way anymore because my body won't let me. That's not it, that's actually not it. It's the fact that when you get older,
Starting point is 00:56:48 you can't get away with stupid shit anymore. Because the same rules apply. What's gonna make my 40-year-old body progress the best is also what's gonna make my 20-year-old body progress the best. The difference is when I was 20, I just got away with doing dumb shit more. There's a lot more factors that are fighting you, you know, the more you age.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And so to be able to counter all of that, but then you have to have a really, you know, fine-tuned approach to your progress. And you have to make sure that you stack everything just so. So you do stay ahead of that. And you're also battling all these things at the same time. So, yeah, you have to be a lot more intentional with going into the gym and what you're going to do. It's like a boxing match, like a fight, man. And it's like that fighter who has, like, comes out the first round with everything he's got. You know what I'm saying? And you better hope you're willing to take 10 punches from one guy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And you might knock somebody out that way and you might be a champion for some time, but eventually you're gonna have to go fucking 10 rounds. You know what I'm saying? That's kind of how the body is. And you get older, like, eventually you're gonna have to go 10 rounds. And when you have to go 10 rounds, you have to be a lot smarter and a lot more strategic
Starting point is 00:57:57 and to Sal's point is exactly right. It's like, it's not that it's changed. The formula, I wish that I had to... Oh, did you imagine? I wish I had the discipline and the formula that I have today for my young 20 year old self because I feel like I'd be so much further along, I'd be in so much better condition than I am today
Starting point is 00:58:17 if I would have had all that. And you know what the truth is, I had some of that knowledge, I was just too stubborn to really apply it and understand. I think that's, again, a lot of the motivation behind the message for us is hoping to reach some of that younger generation as they go through to have the wisdom of, hey, you know what, like it's not about how much misery I can put myself through, or it's like, and that's a problem with, like, especially young guys, I feel like we tend to do this where the heart it is.
Starting point is 00:58:46 We wear it like a badge of honor. Like, oh my God, I almost threw up and the leg memes and all that shit like that and going to failure and PRs and all that. It's like, dude, that's all hype, man. Here's one of the big ones that I noticed for me. I can't try to PR and push super heavy as often. I just can't do that. When I was in my 20s and 30s, I could do it
Starting point is 00:59:11 and I could get away with it. And I probably wasn't good for me back then either. The difference is now when I do that too often, things start to hurt. They start to not feel good. Now here's the benefits. The benefits are this. I've been working out for a long time. I know. You know how to whip it in a shape. I know how to train. I'm smarter
Starting point is 00:59:28 with my training. I've just got more wisdom with it. I understand my body more. And here's another big one. And this, I think, also tends to come with age. And this is true for most people. I'm just way more comfortable with myself. Way more comfortable with my skin. Yeah, your goals, I think, too. Like, I too. I've shifted. I used to just want to be big and I want to be powerful and strong. And you start to look at things a lot differently in terms of like, I just want to feel good. I want to feel like I have abilities. I want to, the whole day I want to feel energized. And those are my goals. The different goals. When you're 20, you tend to be way less secure with yourself.
Starting point is 01:00:08 So when you're more insecure, what do you, what do you want? I need to be bigger. I need to be louder. I need to look cooler. Yeah. Then as you start to get older, you just way more confident and comfortable in your own skin.
Starting point is 01:00:17 You're like, I don't really care. I think I'm cool enough. I'm cool. It's not a big deal. And the irony of it is that's what, that's the kind of confidence that tends to shine and that people can see. So I actually think it's easier at 40, for me personally,
Starting point is 01:00:31 I think for other people who waited till they are 40 to get in shape, and they struggle because they did a learning curve. But I think for me, I can whip myself into shape faster today than I could in my 20s. You know what to do? Yeah, that's what I mean. I know exactly how to recalibrate the diet, recalibrate my movement, recalibrate my programming
Starting point is 01:00:51 to see progress week over week, and then really it's just a matter of commitment. That's it. If do I want it? Do I want to get shredded? Do I want to be 5% body fat right now or not? Do I want to sacrifice some of the things that they come with that and be willing to do that? It's not a muscle it my way there. It's not like, I'm going to grind my way to that point and it's so much easier to do that in 20s.
Starting point is 01:01:13 It's like, no, it's easier to do it today because of all the accumulated knowledge over all the years. I was talking to a buddy of mine who's turned 58 and he's been into working out on and off for most of his life and he's been into working out on and off for most of his life. And he's like, oh, I hate it. He goes, I hate it because I go to the gym. I see these young guys and they're going crazy and the gym and they're strong and this and that.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And I looked at them like, you know, I'm like, when you go into a gym, the people that get the most respect. So the people who are hardcore into fitness, like me, I've been in gym for most of my life. The people that get all the respect in the gym are the older fit people. They always do. Like the old dude that's been lifting weights forever
Starting point is 01:01:52 and he's doing it right and he's still been training and he looks good and he's still able to lift it lift decently. That's like king in the gym. Everybody gives him the bench if he needs it. Everybody asks him questions. He's the guy and he's the wise person in the gym that gets all the respect. So for me, I look so forward to getting that point, you know, and as you get older, exercise becomes far more important. And it is true.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It is true that I don't think I will ever outperform my 34 year old self at 40. Maybe, maybe I could get close, but as I get older, that gets further and further away. But that's okay because at the end of the day, really this is the truth now, if you exercise and you continue to age, you separate yourself from your same age peers, more and more and more. Gosh, a 50-year-old that's fit is so much different than an average 50-year-old. Wait for your reunions. Yeah, oh, it's crazy. Look at all your 40-year-old that's fit is so much different than an average 50-year-old. Wait for your reunions. Yeah, oh, it's crazy. Look at all your 40-year-old friends, you know, and you look at them, like holy cow, like
Starting point is 01:02:51 he's got a bad back, he's already had three knee surgeries. This guy's already on blood pressure medication. That's crazy, right? Imagine when you're 50, 60, 70, I had a 70-year-old client that I used to train, and this guy was just, he gets testosterone level checked, he was at 700. He's still deadlifting and bench pressing and squatting and fit. And you compare him to the average seven year old and he could just run circles around all of them. And you know, when he was dating, it was like he had to go find women in their 50s just to keep up with him because he was so fit in his 70s. So as you get older, fitness
Starting point is 01:03:21 actually gets better, in my opinion. All right. Next question is from honestly Haley. Since you started focusing, fitness actually gets better, am I opinion? All right. Next question is from honestly, Haley, since you started focusing more on health than aesthetics, how have your lives changed or improved? It's fitness now, working out and eating now is just much more comfortable and relaxed. It's less of a stress and more of just the way I live, I think.
Starting point is 01:03:44 So when I was so heavily focused on aesthetics, it was a constant thought. I need to, like I'd eat that, I gotta look ripped, I gotta work out this way, I need to look a particular way. It was less enjoyable. As much as I loved working out and eating right before, it was, it's not, it wasn't nearly as enjoyable as it is now. Now I have such a different value placed on it that I'm fully confident I'll never stop, you know what I mean? Yeah, I could replace that word with performance
Starting point is 01:04:10 and it's pretty similar. Like in terms of my anxiety levels have gone way down and from what I do in the gym. Like I used to, you know, make sure that if I was in the gym and working out like I am progressing and I am moving the weights and I am, you know, like stacking more weight on. And when I wasn't, it would like really, you know, bring me down. And it was like this constant battle of, well, I should be doing more.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And then I, it was always this, this over application of intensity. And that was something that I was, you know, fighting constantly now just to relax and to also still have moments of intensity, but then realize that it's just, I'm looking at feeling better. I'm looking at energizing myself and I'm looking at, like, keeping and maintaining strength. It's such a monkey off my back. It's such a relief that, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:02 I could just enjoy this for what it is. I want to make it clear I still care about aesthetics. I think that it's just not the number one focus. And it doesn't come before my health, right? So that's different, you know, when I was a kid, in his 20s, taking steroids, taking every supplement, you know, going to failure, doing whatever. I would do anything to be bigger like at that point in my life.
Starting point is 01:05:28 But that's been a long time. I mean, for a long time, I've not been that guy. Even when I got into competing and I was all about aesthetics, I still wasn't all about aesthetics and didn't care about my health. In fact, that was kind of my whole thing when I was competing.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I was trying to show people how healthy I could be and still compete and do that. And the irony is you probably would not have gone pro. Had it been the old Adam. Right, no, no. Isn't that weird? Yeah, 100%. No, 100% you're right.
Starting point is 01:05:58 So, yeah, but I don't want people to think that you have to be, because people, no, we don't want to demonize this, though. Yeah, and I don't want people to think that you have to be, like, because people, I- No, we don't want to demonize this thing. Yeah, and I don't want people to think that, like, it's one or the other, or you can be all about aesthetics, and then at one point you grow up, and then you, then you're,
Starting point is 01:06:13 all you care about is health, and aesthetics don't matter anymore. It's like, no, I like, I mean, I was swimming right for a while, and the reason why I stopped was because it was cutting into my weight training, and weight training provides aesthetics for me, aside from just strength,
Starting point is 01:06:28 because you can be kind of strong swimming and I was lifting occasionally, but I was swimming so much and not weight training enough that I was starting to lose muscle, I was atrophy. And I didn't like the way my physique looked, and it wasn't like, oh, I was insecure about it. It was a big deal. It was like, hey, I enjoy sculpting a physique.
Starting point is 01:06:50 One of my favorite things about that weight training is that we do have this ability. We have this ability to look at the physique and sculpt it just like a sculptor would sculpt a masterpiece. And we have the, we have the tools to do that through nutrition and exercise. I find that very exciting and motivating. I'm intrigued by it and I love doing it. Now that doesn't mean that I don't do other things for my health.
Starting point is 01:07:13 I work incredibly hard on my mobility. I make food choices, I fast, I will pick up swimming for a period of time. But then I also will continue to revisit strength training that promotes aesthetics a lot too because I like it. So, you know, I think the way my life is changed is that I'm just not the young insecure kid
Starting point is 01:07:35 who cares. It doesn't bother me that, you know, right now, or maybe three months, because right now I feel I'm feeling pretty good right now. I'm pretty filled out. I'm feeling most of my shirts out. Like I wasn't just about two months ago. You know, my shirts were like coat hangers and I didn't really look like an impressive guy just like two months ago. Now it's healthy as fuck. I've been in some of the best health of my life in this last year, but I didn't like getting care for these things. Now I didn't care for my
Starting point is 01:08:03 aesthetics, but I also didn't feel insecure about it where I was afraid to take my shirt off or I was hiding the way I looked or I was in there beating myself in the gym was just like hey, you know I'm starting to look more like a swimmer than like a bodybuilder guy And I like to look a little bit more like a bodybuilder guy than I'd like to look like a swimmer so you know, I think your your priorities just You're more comfortable with the ebb and flow. Like the reality of long-term health and fitness is that you're gonna have peaks and valleys. My body fat percentage is sometimes gonna be
Starting point is 01:08:35 13 to 14% body fat. Sometimes it's gonna be seven to eight% body fat. And I'm very comfortable with what I look like at both those stages and there's there's positives and negatives of both, you know, at 13, 14%, I've got a lot of flexibility with going out and enjoying socially things with my peers. And, you know, I don't get to do as much of that when I'm seven, eight percent, but I feels awesome to walk around and have abs and be separated and look cool. Like,
Starting point is 01:09:03 that, I mean, there's there's pros and cons of both, and I'm comfortable in both places. And I think that's what's changed as I've gotten older is loving your body and loving who you are at all different phases of it, and accepting that. So I think that's really different for me. Yeah, and I think a big part of that
Starting point is 01:09:24 is just not identifying with aesthetics. So strongly. At some point, we all, I mean, we all age, and at some point, it's all going to change pretty drastically. And you don't want to be stuck in that situation where you're so obsessed, you're so body obsessed that now you're getting older and you're getting plastic surgery and you're on different drugs and you're getting Botox and oh my god now I'm hitting 40 oh my god now I'm hitting 50 and
Starting point is 01:09:50 It's depressing and it's terrible. You don't want to be in that position You can have a very good relationship with fitness and health one that'll last you forever And it just it's just a much more comfortable it's a much more settled Comfortable position is what it feels like and I think you have to make that transition And it's just a much more comfortable, it's a much more settled, comfortable position is what it feels like. And I think you have to make that transition as you get older. Otherwise, it's not fun.
Starting point is 01:10:12 It starts to become kind of terrible. And this is where you see a lot of people, you know, go on the wagon off the wagon. They identify so strongly with it, they hate themselves. Then they can't handle it anymore. They need to stop and quote unquote live their lives. And then they're like, oh my God, I'm fat. And I don't handle it anymore. They need to stop and quote unquote, live their lives. And then they're like, oh my God, I'm fat. And I don't like myself anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:27 They go back and forth. So it's a great place to go to. I don't think it's a destination like you get there. And I'm like, I'm here now. It's just an add to more of a verb, right? It's like, I enjoy exercise for the sake of exercise. I love the way it makes me feel. I love the health benefits.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Oh, look, I look good also as a result. It's really valuing it for all the things that it provides, not just the aesthetic. It's a very wide spectrum. You know, health and fitness is not this body fat percentage or this look, you know, or this performance. How much you can lift. It's a big wide range.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And in your lifetime, you're gonna weave in and out of, sometimes you're gonna be the strongest of your life. And then sometimes you're gonna be the weakest. And sometimes you're gonna look the best, sometimes you're gonna look the worst. And sometimes you're gonna have a combination of two of those things. The cool part is there's lots of plus and minuses
Starting point is 01:11:20 to all ends of the spectrum and learning to love and enjoy all of them is key. When I'm a little bit softer and I'm not, you know, super shredded and ripped. You're better to hug. Yeah. I'm more fun to be around, right? I'm the guy who's like, hey, pour me a drink. I'll have one with you and I'm more social in environments like that.
Starting point is 01:11:40 When I'm the guy who's fucking so impressive, everyone's head turns when I walk in the gym, that dude ain't doing anything socially with food. I'm not going out having a drink with my buddies. I'm not having the piece of cake after dinner every once in a while, like he just ain't doing that because what the sacrifice it takes to do, that's so there's give and take to all of it. And I guess the answer is, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:59 go all over the place and learn to do all that. I think as I've aged, I've learned to enjoy all aspects of that and to South's point, not identify with one. Next question is from body generator. Does getting sweaty mean you are getting good results? Not at all. Body generator. You're getting, so unless the results
Starting point is 01:12:20 are looking for us to sweat more, then no, it just means you're sweating more. But it sounds funny, it sounds funny. It sounds funny, like I'll chuckle sometimes and I'll hear this, but then I gotta remind myself that this is extremely cold. No, this is a very common question. And I bet we all have a story too of,
Starting point is 01:12:36 do you guys have a client who like doesn't sweat? Like I've had clients where I could like hammer them in the gym and they just barely sweat. I mean, that's a, there's genetics to that. You know, so there's there is, I mean, a good, you know, the ability to sweat is, it does show that you're healthy. You know, people who actually really for reals can't sweat, it's a rare condition, is actually quite dangerous.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And in some cases, fatal. But no, the way we tend to judge our workouts is how much I'm sweating, how out of breath I am, how sore I got, and the perceived intensity. Oh my God, it was so hard that must have been a good workout. Okay. Those two alone, I didn't really sweat this workout. It's like sort of like a snide comment at the end of the workout. I'm like, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:13:22 We're working on your strength. Yeah. It's a hard concept for your average person that gets into the gym, because it definitely is, it goes right alongside all the memes and everything where somebody's on the floor with just sweat all over the shirt. And you know, like, oh, I'm so sorry, I can barely walk the next day.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Like that was like a badge of, that was like one of the greatest workouts I did. The workout has to be appropriate for whatever goals that you have. And if that means that you're not sweating during the workout, that's okay. The sweat or lack thereof doesn't mean that what you did was ineffective. So for example, let's say I'm focusing entirely on building low rep strength. I want to build strength in the rep ranges of three to five reps, which has a lot of value,
Starting point is 01:14:08 especially if you don't train in that rep range very often. It's got a lot of value, it can build muscle, it can boost your metabolism, it can give you a nice look to your physique and your body by giving you more of that solid look or whatever. So there's a lot of value into training that way. And I'm not talking about staying there forever.
Starting point is 01:14:24 I'm just saying when you go in there, that doesn't make you sweat that much. It just doesn't. You're doing bench press for three or four reps. You're resting two minutes or three minutes in between sets. Unless the gym is hot, you're probably not gonna sweat much by doing that. Mobility work sometimes causes not that much sweating.
Starting point is 01:14:43 It can, but sometimes it doesn't. If I'm in there to do relaxing type stretching, that's not going to cause a lot of sweating. Cardiovascular activity tends to, circuit training tends to cause a lot of sweating, but it's not the sweating that is making your body get the results. Now, there are results from, there are some things you get, some benefits you can get from getting your body temperature up, that you can get from a sauna, that you can get from just being in hotter temperatures, which is totally different.
Starting point is 01:15:10 But again, if that's your goal, like if your goal is to get better acclimated to heat, like if you want your body's ability to be able to acclimate to heat better, then you are gonna be training. You're gonna be training it. That's sweat process. But if your goal is to improve your fitness,
Starting point is 01:15:24 sweat is a byproduct of that, and a side effect sometimes, but if your goal is to improve your fitness, sweat is a byproduct of that and a side effect sometimes, but not always. So it's not a great measure at all. All I have to do to get people to sweat in my gym is turn up the heat. Yeah. Turn up the heat. Boom, everybody's sweating. Sometimes I would joke.
Starting point is 01:15:40 There were a couple times where the AC broke in the gyms that I would run, which is a nightmare. If you're a gym manager, manager, and it's summer, and your AC breaks, you're gonna get complaints roughly every 10 minutes. Yeah, every 10 minutes. It also reminds me of the old gym teacher that would make sure everybody's doing like, calisthenics and jumping exercises,
Starting point is 01:15:58 just to make sure like the, you know, the heart rates way up and people are starting to sweat. Now we can get into the workout. Like that's like the formula. But what I used to do when the gym's AC would break, there's one club I ran, AC broke a few times, it was kind of annoying. And I would make that joke to people,
Starting point is 01:16:12 they'd come up and complain and I'd be like, look, it's making you sweat more. And then it's funny because half of them didn't get the joke. They'd look at me and be like, oh yeah, and they go back to the workout, like if it was something good. It's like, thanks. It sounds like it's making a joke, dude. It doesn't do anything for you workout. Like if it was something good, it's like, like, no, it sounds like a joke dude.
Starting point is 01:16:25 It doesn't do anything for you really. So now you need to judge the effectiveness of your workouts based off of the actual results you get. So if your goal is to get leaner, are you getting leaner, then your workout's working. If the results you're looking for are strength, are you getting stronger? Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:43 If the results you're looking for are sweat, are you getting stronger? Yes. If the results you're looking for are sweat, then yes, being sweaty will tell you whether or not you're having a good workout. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides. They're all absolutely free. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Adam at Mind Pump Adam,
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