Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1124: Training Arms Daily to Kick Start Growth, the Most Universal Corrective Exercise, Overcoming Procrastination & MORE

Episode Date: September 21, 2019

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about training arms every day to force them to grow,  the single exercise with the biggest corrective benefit for the ge...neral population, how to overcome the “I’ll just start tomorrow” mentality, and behind the scenes on making a podcast. Game-changing inventions and the creators who are now forgotten. (5:21) The origins of the word's ‘shit’ and ‘crap’. [9:15] Why MIIR’s version of the ‘can koozie’ is a no-brainer purchase. [11:38] Why not all planet based proteins are created equal. (13:56) Will Danny be staying with Adam after his last visit? (16:44) Mind Pump Recommends Murder Maps on Netflix & MORE. (18:42) Sal’s daughter signs up for robotics like her big brother. (24:56) Is it weird that Sal now has a high schooler?? The challenges he is now facing and how he has handled them. (26:43) Instagram will restrict posts promoting weight-loss products or cosmetic surgery. (34:30) Justin shares his ‘Uncle Rico’ almanac. (38:48) Brain-controlled prosthetic hand to become reality. (42:56) #Quah question #1 – I've seen many people claim that training arms every day will force them to grow. Some people even show good results. However, wouldn’t that be overtraining and send a signal to repair damage rather than build muscle? (44:51) #Quah question #2 – What single exercise would each of you pick that would have the biggest corrective benefit for the general population? (52:34) #Quah question #3 - How to overcome the “I’ll just start tomorrow” mentality when you have a bad moment or day? (58:36) #Quah question #4 – Can you give behind the scenes of making a podcast? (1:05:01) People Mentioned  Danny Matranga | CSCS | BSc. (@danny.matranga)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned September Promotion: MAPS Starter ½ off!! **Code “STARTER50” at checkout** Origins | Netflix Visit MIIR for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Murder Maps | Netflix The Mind, Explained | Netflix Official Site Instagram will restrict who can see posts about cosmetic procedures, weight loss products Brain-controlled prosthetic hand to become reality MAPS Fitness Products How To Do A Barbell Hip Thrust The RIGHT Way! (FIX THIS!!!) How To Do The Single Leg Glute Bridge (FIX WEAK LOW BACK!) How To Properly Do The Seated Cable Row (IT MATTERS!) Correcting Upper Cross Syndrome to Improve Posture & Health-- Prone Cobra Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this awesome episode of The Mind Pump, for the first 39 minutes we do our introductory conversation. This is where we talk about current events, studies, science, and fun stuff. Fun stuff. After that 39-minute intro, we get into the fitness portion. We talk about fat loss, muscle building, and all things fitness, health, and wellness.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Here's what we talked about in the first 39 minutes of this episode. Adam talked about how he's getting a brand new. What is it called for your cup there? The canchiller. Canchiller. From Meer. Now, this is a really cool canchiller. You put your can in there.
Starting point is 00:00:47 It keeps things cold. It keeps them cold for a very, very long time. Now Meir, M-I-R, is one of our sponsors. They make amazing products, including thermoses and water bottles and things like the canchiller. We also have a discount for you. If you go to Meir.com, that's M-i-i-r.com and use the code Mind Pump. You'll get 25% off your order. Then I talked about how I got a smoothie at Whole Foods with plant protein and guess what?
Starting point is 00:01:17 It tasted like dirt and bugs, disgusting. Reminded me why we work with organified. Now they make all natural organic vegan products and their protein is plant-based, but it doesn't taste like dirt and bugs. It actually tastes like chocolate or vanilla. It tastes really, really good. Organify is one of our sponsors. They have lots of other products you can look through. Again, organic vegan-based health fitness, muscle building, fat burning type products.
Starting point is 00:01:44 If you go to organify.com-fords-mindpump and use the code mind pump, you'll get a massive 20% off. Then we talked about Netflix, DocuSeries, the mystery murder ones. Adam Crapped everyone out with this terrifying tale of the last one he just watched. I talked about how my daughter is doing robotics, which is kind of cool. I talked about my boy in high school, who's in high school now, new challenges. It's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And we talked about lifting weights with my son. That was cool too. Then we talked about how Instagram is now changing how people are gonna be advertised to. Apparently if you're under 18 years old, you will not get advertisements for weight loss products or feet, tees or any other bullshit product that does no more.
Starting point is 00:02:27 No more. No more. No more. No more. Nothing for you at all. Step one, maybe step two is they'll ban it for everybody. Justin talked about his awesome find. He's not a big brager, but apparently he's in the American Hall of Fame or whatever that book is right there. It's in writing. It's a real thing, Sal. He broke records.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Oh man. And then I talked about how there's a new, smart, artificial hand, and Justin talked about how he would use that smart, artificial hand. Oh, you know. Then we get into the fitness portion of this episode. This person saying that, you know, some people claim that training a body part every single day, like your arms every day, will force them to grow.
Starting point is 00:03:01 What is the, our opinion on that? Or is that true? Or is that false? Or can you do that in a way that'll make it work? Next question, this person wants to know what single exercise each of us would pick that we think would have the biggest corrective benefit for the general population.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So corrective benefit, meaning correcting some form of poor posture or pain, or something that we see that's common all around us. The next question, this person wants to know how you overcome the mentality of, I'll just start tomorrow, that unmotivated mentality, like yeah, I think tomorrow's a good day. Everybody wants to do something tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:03:34 but never today. We talk about our successful strategies. And finally, we talk all about what goes on behind the scenes. So you listen to the podcast, you can hear our awesome we are. But how does that all happen? Who on behind the scenes. So you listen to the podcast, you can hear awesome we are. But how does that all happen? Who's behind the scenes? Who's recording the video right now, as I'm talking. We talk about all that and more.
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Starting point is 00:05:15 STAR, T-E-R, 5.0, no space for the discount. Remember when we had that big ol' argument over headphones back in the day? I know those days. You guys are spending millions of dollars on headphones because we like care about being cool And like not mainly your headphones match your fucking shoes. Yeah, they were Right exactly Actually, these are the new ones dude. Look at that. Those are classy bro. Let me tell you something
Starting point is 00:05:40 They are it's like I'm walking on you. I bet you run like a gazelle. I'm, no. I want to see it. It's not get carried away. Definitely they're made for. I run like a gazelle that's been injured. Yeah. The wound to gazelle. Yeah, no, this is like, it's like walking on pillows.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Is that good? I can't, when I see those shoes, I can't help but envision like a tennis balls on the bottom of a walker. That's what you're saying. I see a walker with tennis balls. Yeah. Do you see that Justin? Totally. I mean, how high do those black socks go? balls on the bottom of a walker. That's what just, I see a walker with tennis balls. That's what I see. Do you see that Justin?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Totally. I mean, how high do those black socks go? That's the question. All the way. You know what I'm saying? And the high, you have those straps that keep them up. You know, that's the next move. What was that all about?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Was that because socks didn't have socks that are tight back in the day? I think it's like, being professional, you know what I'm saying? There was no elastic. No elastic in socks. So you had to hold them up somehow. Yeah, I think it's like free being professional You know what I'm to sag down. There was no elastic no elastic and socks So you had to hold them up somehow. God you know, it's crazy. We got the historian here back in my day's day Is that true? That's true. I believe yeah, you know, it's crazy What did when it left the brilliant motherfucker that came up with putting elastic inside the sock?
Starting point is 00:06:38 You know saying change the game. Can you Google that guy? Dude that and and the shoelace I am plastic cap I am always fascinated with the guy or a girl who does this, right? This is who I've always wanted to. I always wanted to be somebody who nobody knew who you were, but you did something that like forever gets used or for your forever known for that.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Changes the game. Right, like the paper clip. Nobody ever talks about that guy. No. The guy invented a paper clip. I'm all sliced bread. I know we always say greatest things to slice bread, but remember the first person to sell slice bread?
Starting point is 00:07:07 They must have made fun of them. Yeah. They must have been like, oh, you're an idiot. People slice their own bread. How about the dude who invented the umbrella that goes in the margaritas? Mm. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Because your drink needs shade to prevent it so far. That one's not so obvious to me, but he did make a lot of money on it. Yeah. You know? He did make a lot of money. Or the you know, you did make a lot of money. Or the person that did the easy ain't the first, the first non spill cup lid thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:31 like McDonald's had a cup. Yeah, who did that? You mean the thing that goes on top? Yeah, like a little bit. You know, lid with a plastic with a little hole in it. Those are like, that's universal. Cippy cup. Yeah, 7-11 McDonald's, they all use the same,
Starting point is 00:07:43 pretty much the same one. Yeah, you went invented that first. I don't know, but these are like game changing inventions that the inventors are forgotten. It reminds me, there's actually a show on Netflix about this, Origins, I believe it's what it's called, but I was watching that, and Origins. Origins, not that one. I do watch, yeah, that's different, that's late hour. But yeah, that's, I was watching that and they were going through like the origin of arrows
Starting point is 00:08:09 into like the different weaponry, how we got to like guns and how we got to like the nuclear bomb. And I was actually wrong with what I thought was originally gunpowder. So like gunpowder, for some reason, I thought it was where they would, they took like some pig shit and then like dried it out and then used. What? Yeah, like that, I thought it was where they took like some pig shit and then dried it out and then used what? Yeah, like that I remember like somebody talking about that like it was part of the ingredients to make Gunpowder like it was accidental. Yeah, I was like accidental, but it was actually like this the monks Chinese monks
Starting point is 00:08:38 Right Chinese monks. Yeah, where the ones responsible for coming up with this when they were putting like these formulations together with salt and What was it salt I forget the other two ingredients, but yeah, it was it was actually accidental You remember the most like benign ingredient. Yeah I know you got to put some salt in there. Oh sulfur was the other one sulfur and then there's one more That was a third one speaking of bitches. Oh. Whoa, I was eating this and then that happened. Oh, shit. That's not why you have explosive parts. That's because of the salt.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Speaking of fur as far as, speaking of shit. So I don't know if this is true, so maybe someone can correct me, but this is like a, it may be it's a myth, it's probably not true. But it's widely believed that the word shit is an acronym. Did you guys know that? The origin of the word shit comes from when ships
Starting point is 00:09:32 used to transport fertilizer and manure way back in the day. I've actually heard of this. And what they would write on the barrels, these are just way, way, way back. What they would write on the barrels was ship high in transport, because if you put them too low on the bottom, underneath on the bottom decks or whatever,
Starting point is 00:09:51 the gases and methane or whatever would build up from the poop, and then if there was a spark, you would have a fire or explosion. So they'd write on these ship high in transport, and then that became an acronym, ship. So I don't know if that's true, but it sounds good, right? No, I've actually heard that.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Probably for me. Maybe. So we would have been high on the origin of this. Yeah. So anyway, and then the origin of crap, you guys know where that comes from? No. The guy who invented the toilet,
Starting point is 00:10:20 his last name was Crapper. Nice. He's liar. Look it up, Doug. Crapper. Is it? Look it up. The guy who invented the toilet is James Crapper, I think was Crapper. Nice. Slire. Look it up, Doug. Crapper. Is it? Look it up. Guy who invented the toilet, James Crapper, I think, was name was.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Well, Doug's doesn't found my paperclip guy. Paperclip. Yeah. The guy who invented the paperclip. Yeah, but you didn't know the name. We just want to know his name was. Yeah, that's curious. No idea.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And how rich he is. And then I'm a brella guy. I don't think they patented it. I think they did. Really? Yeah, yeah. So every paperclip made? Yeah, no, I think he gets a royalty. No, yeah, see who would've been.
Starting point is 00:10:47 If you bend it a little different. Yeah, exactly. This was around it. That's what it sounds like. Oh, no, yeah, super protected. I think so. Let's see what the... That could be wrong, but I think so.
Starting point is 00:10:56 So Thomas Crapper, so I was wrong. It was a little bit different. Thomas Crapper. Mitt, and why Crapper, Lou Toilet, is not a John. What? Wait. Wait, while Sir John Harrington is credited with the invention, it was Alexander Cummings that received
Starting point is 00:11:11 the first patent of a flushing water closet. So nobody named crapper invented the toilet. So that was wrong. Somebody named Cummings. Cum. And then, I mean, that would have been worse, right? That's just it. I was eluding to that. You think for spawning the cum guy.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He came up with toilets. Yes, you know, I mean, got to put it somewhere. Oh my gosh. Adam, what do you want to say? I got to change subject. Adam, what's in your story? What are you buying? Oh, the canchiller.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I can't what? A canchiller. It's like a, it's like a, it's mirrors me. Oh, like a ice chest. Like a coosie. Oh, like a coosie. Oh, but wait, wait, hold on. This is mirror.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yes. So what is it exactly? So it's like a coosie, but it's like made out of the same thing that are, you know, the flasks are made of, the thermos or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So they keep it super cold or super hot for all day long. So it's made to put a can inside.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah. Like one can at a time, one can at a time. Oh. Yeah, it's like, it sounds long. So it's made to put a can inside. Yeah. Like one can at a time. One can at a time. Oh. Yeah, it's like a, yeah, it's interesting. Well, it's like a, it's like a better version of a koozie. Yeah, because a koozie does that too, but because thermoses have that space of air
Starting point is 00:12:17 between the two walls, they do. Well, you guys know with our new, you know, our new ones that we have from here, we've, I could put, I could put cold water from my house in there. This morning. Yes. And it'll be cold tonight. All day.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Isn't that weird? It can be hot in my car and it'll still be cool. Yeah, so my daughter loves it for that exact reason. Okay, so I could see it for a year at the beach and you get that sand in your drink. I ordered it because I can use, I already see multiple reasons I use one I'd use it like you just said the beach like that. I would use it on the boat We're on the boat all time. I'd use it on a hike Imagine if you went for a hike and you wanted a cool cool can drink
Starting point is 00:12:54 You don't want to you're not gonna carry a fucking cooler with you or you don't want to carry a cooler But you have this you keep your drink in there. Is that a lid? Does it have a lid? What is it? Yeah, it seals it. So what you would do is you think of it right now I have like my my hands and drinks that I told you would do is you think of it. Right now I have like my, my hands and drinks that I told you guys I like. You slide that in there right now. It's cold from the refrigerator. Seal that up.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I could keep it in my car. I could keep it in here. And then when I open it up at two o'clock in the afternoon, it's still cold. Oh, there you go. Right. So this is more like carbonated beverages, I would think. You know, otherwise you would use the water bottle.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah, cold. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, you wouldn't use, yeah. You wouldn't want to open your beer and pour it in there and then close it and leave it all there. No, no, no, no, no, no, you see how the can, the can kind of sticks out and they have it. I got the regular like 12 ounce
Starting point is 00:13:35 because I see myself using the 12 ounce more, but they have it for the taller. How much are they? Oh, it's not that much. What did that say, does this one? This is one of those products, I didn't even know I needed this. 1995. Yeah, well, people, my publishers get 25% off too. Oh, it's not that much. What did they say? This is one of those products. I didn't even know I needed this. 1995. Yeah, but people, my publishers get 25% off too.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Oh yeah. Yeah, that's a great deal. Yeah, no, it's a no brainer. I got a couple of them. Because I'll use them for sure. Yeah, well speaking of our sponsors. So yesterday I did a great workout, and I was deadlifting yesterday.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Wasn't planning on going heavy. I haven't gone heavy on purpose for a long time. So I haven't gone over 400 pounds for long. In fact, last week, uh, I stuck to three 15 pulled that for 15 wraps, um, which was, which was pretty good. But I'm not going heavy. I haven't gone heavy for a while. I've been trying to work on form. But then I start working out and Danny's in the gym.
Starting point is 00:14:22 You know what I mean? He's on his computer. I know he's watching. I know he's peeking over his teeth. Old man's out can do. So I said, all right, let's see what happens. Let's throw five wheels on here. I haven't done that for a long time. It felt great.
Starting point is 00:14:37 It felt really strong. Came up real smooth. Did you ask him to come over and pick it up? No, no. I don't want the poor kid to hurt himself. Trying to lift one side of it. You're decent been over Realized they're superior, dude. I tried. Yeah, I don't want him to injure himself He's just you know as a young kid, you know early muscle development poor dude
Starting point is 00:14:56 Poor guy was still at brand new everything's so nice and shiny well hold on So I did that workout trained hella hard and I was just in time I had to pick up my boy from school got my boy And I'm like I want to I didn't train to Hella Hard, and I was just in time, I had to pick up my boy from school, got my boy, and I'm like, I wanna, I didn't have a chance to eat anything, I didn't have any food beforehand. So I feel like having a shake or something, but I already left the studio, because normally what I would do
Starting point is 00:15:16 is I would just have the organifye protein shake. So I went to all the whole foods, and I bought smoothies, and then of course, I got them way protein, because my son can have dairy. I can't have dairy, so I'm like, let me have the plant protein. So two things, first off, they put it in a cup, paper straw, fucking hate paper straws.
Starting point is 00:15:30 You guys are idiots who push that. Damn straw suck. The worst. Oh, they're terrible. Anyway, in a big ass plastic top with a new plastic lid that's way more plastic. It's especially with drinks like that. A smoothie?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Through a paper straw? It's gonna disintegrate before even a quarter of the way down. I'm sure we're gonna find some studies gonna show that I now have liver cancer cause all the paper that swallowed from the paper. Anyone's supposed to eat trees. So anyway, I'm drinking, I'm sipping on this drink and I'm like, oh, I forgot how shitty plant protein powder tastes.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, no. They're fucking terrible. That's where, organifyifi hit a home run. Kills it. Yeah, no, no. Kills it. Cause here's what's be honest. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:09 No plant protein tastes as good as way. Way is just way better tasting, which is why I think it's more. That's where they get the word way. Yeah, it's way better. It's way better tasting. But organifi in my opinion is the only plant. It rivals. It's close.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, it's way better than any other Plant protein because I had the one that they gave me that whole foods and you can taste it You know what I mean? I feel like I'm like it was like dried like there's like peace and rice Yeah, it's not dirt to me. This doesn't taste good. So anyway, we're gonna fight good job. Yeah, you did a very very good job Danny last night stayed at my place. And so he comes down every Thursday, right? So he comes down and shoots content every Thursday here.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And lately, he's been staying over to Rachel and Taylor's and Eli's at the hustle house, right? And so that's where he's been staying. Oh, that's what it's called? The hustle house? Yeah, you didn't know that. Yeah, you didn't know that? Cool.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You didn't know the hustler, they don't let you there. Oh man. That was the pump palace. No. No, that's the other place. They don't let you there. Oh, man. That was the pump palace No, no, that's the other place. That sounds worse. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah So he he stays at my place last night. Well, I knew that he'd been sleeping on the couch over at their place and I have it I have a spare room, but I kind of been telling him I said, you know My place isn't the the best to stay at right now, man. I said, I got a, I got a new born, my AC broke. Are you sure you want to come over? And
Starting point is 00:17:29 he's like, yeah, no, I'll be fine. So last night, I stayed at my house and then this morning, I see it because they were shooting content early this morning here. And I walked in and say, Hey, man, how'd you sleep? Oh, and it's funny because last night, I mean, I'm all the in the bottom floor, right? So he's upstairs in one of the spare, our, our, our, our three bedrooms are on the very top floor. And, uh, you know, the master bedroom is down the hall from his room, but it's still close enough that a screaming baby, you can definitely hear it. And I can, last night I could hear Max, uh, all the way down on the bottom floor.
Starting point is 00:18:01 So I imagine in this bedroom, he could hurt him just five last night. That's great birth control. Yeah, and then on top of that it was warm in my house because I don't have my AC going. It was a cooler night so it wasn't miserable, but I'm sure it wasn't great. So I saw, so I'm curious like next week when he comes we'll see if he even asks. Because I think he's been like, dude, I got a hotel. Yeah. Can I sleep at the studio? It's not. I want to inconvenience you guys. Yeah, he's young man You remember when you were young how you could just not sleep. Yeah, he's rolling somebody's couch
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah, I just get up and like cool. Yeah, yeah Now I'm like, you know, I mean now I get up to go pee one time in the middle of night Yeah, I got a backache or something weird like that. Yeah, it's a last news and a rib comes out last night I'm watching Netflix. So we know that Netflix spent a bajillion dollars on. There's that number again. I know, that's such a good number. Don't you think? I feel like people get what I'm doing, right?
Starting point is 00:18:53 We get like quad-zillion. We need some new jobs. No, no, no, no, no, no. You get a lot of fucking money, right? That they spent the last year on all their original content. And it's kind of cool because we've talked about on the show, we've seen it and I'm starting to see a lot of it really start to drip out now. And they did a really good job on a lot of these.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And the reason why I'm sharing this, because I've been the one to kind of talk shit about in that place a little bit, that I think that Apple or somebody else is going to come over and thump them. But I'm impressed with, and it's so smart, what they've done, they're recreating a ton of these like murder mysteries, rape cases, like true stories with real actors. And so that's what makes it so.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's like a drama based on a true story. Yes, and it's a docu-series. So they're typically like anywhere from four to eight episodes that are like an hour long, but because they have real actors doing it, and there are stories that are compelling, and they totally of course, tapped into what we already know, you guys know that the most popular podcasts or what?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Murder mysteries. Murder mysteries. Murder mysteries and all those type of you know podcasts So they they just have the the bench quality. I don't know what it and I don't even know what it is with me like I'm watching this And I'm watching it and it is kind of slow probably because you want to figure out what happened Yes, it's totally what keeps you like watching the next one the next one next one I mean it knocked it out in I watched this one called Unbelievable and it was did you believe it? I didn't wow. Yeah, yeah, I didn't believe it held up the name and knocked it out and I watched this one called unbelievable. And it was-
Starting point is 00:20:25 Did you believe it? I didn't. Wow. Yeah, yeah. It didn't believe it. He held up the name. No, I believed it. I believe that there's fucking crazy people like this.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It was on this, it was this rape case that was in the early 2000s and it was the ex-military guy who was knew how to avoid like getting caught. And so, and you know, they don't actually release the end. How many total people he got? You know for sure he got in the 20s. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Oh yeah, he was so smart the way he went around from city to city. And he's a fucking predator, like a legit. Wait, I saw a little bit something about this in terms of they didn't share information like in different like police departments for a while because he what he did is he knew He knew how the system worked and he knew like how how they gather gather information How they would share with other other police stations
Starting point is 00:21:19 And he was so smart the way he did it that it took, I think it took over a year before they started to connect like all these unsolved rape cases in these cities were the same person that was going all over the place. And he was, in the series talks about that he had no intentions of slowing up. In fact, it was something that he planned to do forever until he got caught. Yeah, I just remember lots of cases like that that they could have solved. But it was like back then it was like an ego thing of like, we're going to solve this in our county
Starting point is 00:21:48 and we're going to figure this out. And they wouldn't like, you know, connect with these other counties to really collectively share data. That's dumb. Yeah, really dumb. Well, it's also, I mean, and they get into it a little bit. There's this, it's a combination of that. But I think it's more so, it's hard to,
Starting point is 00:22:04 there's so many cases it's a combination of that, but I think it's more so, it's hard to, there's so many cases that are happening all the time that there has to be like very obvious things like patterns that you're seeing. Yeah, that can connect them. And I guess with, It's true because you think of like, okay, there's a rape in this town.
Starting point is 00:22:20 You know, those types of crimes happen quite a bit in other towns. How would you even know to share? Right, you know what I mean? That they're connected. in other towns. How would you even know to share? Right. Yeah. You know, I mean, they're going to have a database. It was really weird. But if you exactly, but if you have a guy who is, I'll give an example. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:22:33 If you have a guy who is covering all his tracks, like he was gloves, there was, so there was no forced entry. There was, he took all the sheets. He took, he wore a condom. He condom, he made his victims shower afterwards, so no DNA samples. Like, he like, oh my God, what a terrifying, not only did he rape you, but he makes you take a shower afterward. To four to six hours, he would, he would rape them for. Oh my God. And then have him, shower afterwards. He'd take photos of them, all this, it was crazy. And then they find, I find out in this,
Starting point is 00:23:09 that this book exists that's called Rape Forensics. And it was a bunch of police offers that made a book on the forensic, how they capture. So he knew how to avoid? Totally. Oh, that's terrible. And thousands of those copies have been sold and people have bought.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So then you could. So at the end they did catch them obviously. Yeah, they did How fucked up would it be to make a docu series like that that's so compelling and then leave it And then you're like he's still out there. Yeah, but shit last episode. You know like I'm gonna catch him. We never caught him Terrifying oh god damn it dude. Why did you crap? I know right? Yeah,'s a terrible thing. Yeah, the point of me telling you is that Netflix is killing it on some of these, some of this original content. I mean, it sucked me and I'm gonna knock that series out I think two days.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I'm still loving that mind explained. Yeah, me too. Yeah, series. All right, have you seen it yet? Only two episodes. Just a two. I love it, man. It's so well made, smart, very versatile.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I love that one and there's this, it's like a, I don't know, it's a design a home design Show of modern designs or whatever where they take like these really interesting buildings and then they make something out of it Like it's like a old castle. That's just been you know like this historic landmark But somebody wants to make it into like a legit functioning house and like what they have to do to draw it up and Get really creative with the space just to make it work. And they do that to all these different like really cool buildings like in England.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I've seen shows like this, but here's a, on Netflix, but are they all based out of England or Australia? Yeah, they're taking a lot of, yeah, they're buying all the content. Is that what it is? Because every time I watch one of those shows, you're just gonna love them. It's an English show.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah, I'm always like, why are there no American home improvement shows on Netflix? Cause yeah, I guess we're not doing creative shit like I guess we're just buying. Yeah, I want to track home and beer. Yeah, like lame. Interesting. Yeah, they're doing cool stuff. Well, yesterday, so my daughter signed up for robotics.
Starting point is 00:24:59 She's in fourth grade, which is exciting because. Oh, she's doing it too. Yeah, dude, and it's interesting. She's following in her brothers, you know, I think I, she's doing it too. Yeah, dude. That's interesting. She's following in her brothers. You know, I think she's doing it because her brother, you know, does it. Now is that for so long? Now what you've told me so far, I mean, they seem like they have total different personalities. She's more in the limelight, you know, funny.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah. Like doesn't mind getting up in front of her peers. Like that's a, do you think that right now she's doing it because her brother is and she looks up to her brother? I think she, I think a little bit of that because her, I asked her, I said, what do you like about it?
Starting point is 00:25:33 What do you like about robotics? And she's like, oh, I get to, we get to build something which was cool that she said that. She's like, what do I get to, you know, be my friends? And I think she has a really, has she has fond memories of the tournaments because when the tournaments are all day, right? When you go to these Lego robotics tournaments,
Starting point is 00:25:49 you get there like 8 a.m. and you're not gone till like 7 p.m. and they're not competing the whole time. They'll do a competition and then it's like another two hours until their next competition. So the kids are just doing whatever they want, they're out playing with their friends and I think she just has good memories of that. So I think that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Her friend signed up for this class, which is cool, two of her friends. So there's three girls in the class, and usually it's mostly boys, but it's cool that there's three girls and that they wanna do it. And I had that conversation with her, I said, do you like the programming part?
Starting point is 00:26:20 She's like, yeah, we're learning at a program, we're building it. She's like, I'm gonna make mine look like a unicorn, which I thought was hilarious. And I told him, like, that's like, yeah, we're learning at a program, we're building it. She's like, I'm gonna make mine look like a unicorn, which I thought was hilarious. And I told him, like, that is a very valuable skill. I told her, this is an extremely valuable skill. And I can tell that you're enjoying this. I'm not trying to push her in any direction,
Starting point is 00:26:34 but it's kind of cool to, you know, to see. But boy, does it get to a whole other level when you go into high school and above? Yeah, you're telling me a little bit about your son. How is school going for your boy or not? You have a high school or not. Yeah, you're telling me a little bit about your son. How is school going for your boy right now? You have a high school right now. Yeah, it's going good. Is that weird for you yet?
Starting point is 00:26:50 A little bit. It is a little weird, but. Because I got to think that you were probably, I mean, I know Justin was. I think I was the same way. Like this is the next coming years is where you really start to form into being a man. Yeah, I started to figure it out. Yeah, and your person, I mean, it was 15 z age when you think you know everything. Totally.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah, I definitely thought I knew more than my parents by 15. Oh, yeah, no, no, I mean, he's a really good kid. The thing that's been interesting is the challenge that it's presented because he went to a difficult high school, and then on top of that he's taking advanced classes and You know that the the the issue I had with my son was I was always worried that He was going to hit be hit with a challenge and not know how to deal with it because academically things tend to come easy to him So I was like, okay, I want to see what happens when he really encounters his first really difficult class or whatever. I first bad degree.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I've literally never had to help him with homework. Ever. He's never come up to me and said, hey, can you, he just does it. That's crazy. Yeah, so he's had a couple tests and quizzes that are difficult. So we've had these discussions and I told him,
Starting point is 00:28:00 on our drives, can I get to pick him up from school and drop him off every day? And I said, I know, I said, I'm glad you're finding these challenges. That this is good because it's gonna teach you to handle these challenges. You need to learn how to study. And he goes, what do you mean, I study?
Starting point is 00:28:12 I said, no, no, no, no, no. You need to learn how to better behaviors on how to study because what you've been doing before isn't gonna work anymore. You can't rely on your talent. Like you used to, now you're in a much more competitive environment. And then as far as robotics is concerned, these kids are, you know, it's three or four
Starting point is 00:28:28 hours every day. And I know you said that. They're massive three hours a week. Three or four hours every single day, they're, it's just robotics. So aside from all those other classes and courses, and he has at least a couple hours of homework every day, on top of that, the robotic classes are. That is. And as he has a tinette first like knowing that was like,
Starting point is 00:28:45 oh, I don't know. Yeah, so that was a, I was actually really, really proud is that he, he went to the first kind of meeting and he came out and I picked him up and I'm like, so what do you think he goes, he goes, it's a, he goes, I don't know if I want to do it, which was kind of shocking because he'd been doing it for so long. And so well, how come? And he goes, the commitment is crazy. He's like, it's three, four hours, almost every single day.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And I thought, okay, well, okay, how do I approach this? So I said, listen, I said, the last thing you want to do is not do something because you're afraid. So if it's because you're afraid, because it's a challenge, it's a different, now you're the bottom-run, because now you're in a, you're taking a class and you're working with people who are way more advanced in you, because there's sophomores, juniors, and seniors that are doing it. I said, you're taking a class and you're working with people who are way more advanced than you because there's soft, more juniors and seniors that are doing it. I said, you're the bottom guy.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I said, if you're doing it because you're a little intimidated, that's not a good reason to not do it. If you just don't like it, like I get that. Then we talked about the value and all that. Then I left it and I said, look, whatever you decide to do, I'll support because I don't want him to feel like he had to do it so he don't let me down because I don't want him to resent me That's a bad thing to if he does it and then resent me afterwards. No value, right? Yeah He waited till the very last day till signups and then he did it
Starting point is 00:29:53 He signed up so I was really really proud of him now as it as it started is he actually doing it? They're doing it. They're doing the stuff He could still drop out if he wants to but the fact that he's actually in there and doing it Mm-hmm, and then he chose to to try it out. Maybe feel, you know, really happy. Now the three hours a day, do they, is that like during, or right after school? Right after. So they stayed, he stays on campus.
Starting point is 00:30:12 He stays on campus till six or seven o'clock and I, oh shit. Yeah, that's, yeah. Now, now that's better than the, there were two robotics classes that they had. The other one goes at, so there's two, there's two of them. But one of them, there's two of them.
Starting point is 00:30:25 One of them, it's a huge team that makes a huge robot. This other one that he does, there's smaller teams that make smaller robots, but they're all considered robotics. He wants to work with the smaller teams. The big robot one, those guys will meet up at like, I don't remember what time it's like four and they're like nine p.m. Every day or something like that, it's insane. It's insane what they do.
Starting point is 00:30:44 So freshmen are even in that program as well. Yes. And you ask, you know, you're right. You think why, bro, these teams compete on a world level, world stage. And major corporations are, I'm sure, paying attention. These are high schools and they compete nationally and globally. Well, isn't his high school known for that, right?
Starting point is 00:31:04 It's one of the top ones for specifically, so it's like, you're not fucking around. And you're doing shit from scratch. That's the crazy thing. It's like, you got to build a robot that is this and they have a few parameters, like you can't do this, you can't do that, but other than that,
Starting point is 00:31:16 it's like they're in there working with tools and building machines, you know what I mean? So, I mean, obviously the applications of that for the modern economy are for future. Yeah, there's lots of benefits. That's just having that knowledge. So interesting to me because I envision myself or I think back to when I was in high school
Starting point is 00:31:36 and like what my school day looked like and I couldn't imagine if the after school was consumed by three to five hours. Well, we did that in sports. Yeah, how long was practice? That's what I mean, I was consumed by three to five hours. Well, we did that in sports. Yeah, how long was practice? That's what I mean. Well, not no three to five hours. Oh, no, yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Hell, weight training. And then you did like extra like hours we'd throw out. Well, when I did that, it was, I was allowed to take an elective for my last class or yeah, you'd wrap it into school for it. Yeah, or PE was, as an athlete, you could take P E as your... Yeah, I took weight training as an elect. Yeah, so that still was in the school hours.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So, you know, that was like, I got to take a two o'clock gym class, which just meant we got to go to basketball. I was a TA as well for one of my English teachers who was the football coach, so we would just break down film the entire hour, you know. So, yeah, there was ways around it, but yeah, that was the commitment level. It's like, you know, so yeah, there was ways around it But yeah, that was the commitment level. It's like, you know, you get those extracurricular like interests like and that's definitely something I think it makes it the big difference is if you enjoy it and you and you enjoy the time or you don't
Starting point is 00:32:38 That's what makes the big difference kiss early after I fuck after school I was like done was cool like Like, you know, Bell rang, fucking outta here. But I would go in my backyard and lift weights for two and a half hours, three hours, because I loved it, right? So if he loves it, I'm okay with it, but if I start to notice that he's not fucking, like it's not good, it's not helping him,
Starting point is 00:32:58 then I'll have that conversation and tell him, like, man, he has a social outlet built in with everybody's working on it. He's going there with his friends, they seem to be hanging out. So as long as he enjoys it, they're not all good. And we still have time to do other stuff. Like I took him through a workout.
Starting point is 00:33:10 God, I swore to God, I remember. You guys remember, well, so you guys didn't start lifting weights until a little bit later. But I remember working out, and I know training kids at that age two, 14, 15. Basically, you just get stronger every workout. Like every single time you train, I'm like, oh, there's two more reps.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Oh, here's five pounds. Oh, here's, it's crazy. Because your body's already primed to do that anyway. It's already growing on its own. It's so funny. And he's starting to get a little jazzed about it. Now, you see, is he, no, cause he played some sports last year, right?
Starting point is 00:33:39 He put that in his volleyball. Okay, now, I imagine he can't do that with football. He's gonna try to do volleyball too. Oh my God, with the robotics. Yeah, but I don't know if that's gonna be possible. Okay, no, I imagine he can't do that with football. He's gonna try to do volleyball with him. Oh my God, with the robotics. Yeah, but I don't know if that's gonna be possible. Yeah, I can't imagine. We'll see, and if he has to pick one. It sounds like the commitment for,
Starting point is 00:33:51 is it robotics, year round, or is it a season? Like, it's a season. I think it's a season. Okay, so maybe if it's not conflicting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then there's clubs and there's all these other things. And it's, you know, he signed up for a club called the meat club. It's meat. Meat. Meat. Meat so once I think it's like once a week
Starting point is 00:34:09 They all get together and they grill up meat Together I guess you can start whatever fucking club you want They have clothes like that when I was a kid You know hook up with butcher box Yeah, out of the way. We got over there. Yeah, hook them up with butcher blocks. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Exactly. Anyway, I thought that was funny. Yeah. Did you guys see the Instagram news that came out? You sent it over and I think a chance to read. Tell me, tell me. I'm going to pull it up right now so that I know I don't get it wrong. Yeah, you had sent it over and I kind of, so this is big news.
Starting point is 00:34:42 This is a big announcement. They're going to be banning like Detox teas and those types of things. Well, here's people see this is huge. This is huge news Instagram Here's a title of the article Instagram is gonna restrict who can see posts about cosmetic procedures and weight loss products So basically what they're gonna do and they're gonna make it like you can't see this It's gonna say something like this is restricted if you're under the age of 18 They're gonna remove posts that make claims about diets or weight loss products and that if it's if it's linked to something that someone Can buy it with like a discount code or whatever so there you can know so you know
Starting point is 00:35:19 What's her name Kylie Jenner is not gonna be able to promote her fit T to anybody under the age of 18. It'll automatically block them out. I love this. So do I. I think this is great. And I think it's great because it's market-based. Well, yes. Not a lot. It's Instagram.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Yes, her day I did my stuff regulated. I did my talk to the forum for my live Q&A on the forum. And one of the questions was asked how I think the future of social media, what it looks like for companies and businesses. And I think that when it first came out, I think companies that were already in existence or were already multi-million dollar companies, kind of just like we're whatever about social media. You don't need it. You're already a huge company. Then social media grew so big that they recognized like, okay, we need to have it.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So then they adopted it by hiring out and then they probably have somebody who just kind of runs it and it really turned more into just another marketing tool for them or whatever. But I really think that, and I like to think that Mind Pump is a little ahead of the curve than some of these other companies that we really looked at our social media as a way to connect with people and not a way to sell our products. And so I think that we're going to see that happen. Like I think we're going to what's happened is people figured out, oh, if I hacked the system, I get a ton of people looking at me, I've got a million eyes on me. Now all I have to do is hustle and sell a few things that I can make some money. I think we're gonna see it go back to what it originally was designed for, which is the social aspect of it,
Starting point is 00:36:50 which is probably gonna fuck a lot of people. You don't think how many people rely on Instagram, swipe up and buy my shit. Oh my God, dude. I think about it, if you're selling these products, and I don't know how big of the market of these weight loss, diet, products, go to kids under 18. But it's gotta be something, it's not nothing, right?
Starting point is 00:37:09 So automatically right off the top, you're gonna lose a chunk of revenue because you can't now. That's a bigger number than you'd think. People on Instagram that are younger, like age category that can be category that are susceptible to that 16 17 years old think about like you being that age. Yeah, I mean that's the age when you start Have they start getting the body image issues and shit only time I even paid attention to that stuff and who's gonna
Starting point is 00:37:37 And who's more easily manipulated than that age group to buy some buy into some bullshit like 50 I think this is really cool on Instagram's part. I really do. And I think it's responsible of them, but I also think that they're foreseeing that they can be demonized for this later. You know what I'm saying? So they're trying to be proactive.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Like, okay, this looks bad on our part that these influence- Which is good, that's quality control. Yep, you know, every company needs to take that amount of time to assess, you know, what they're actually promoting and what they're allowing and what the experience is for the user. Yeah, because this didn't happen when we were kids. Every single fucking shitty candy bullshit, you know, whatever commercial was geared towards children.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah. It still is. And so TV never did that. So it's cool. That social media is kind of taking that step. You know what I mean? Well, you're probably right. I think there's bits of hope in there, yeah. They're probably afraid a little bit. I think that's what it is. Yeah, that's what I mean, there's probably stories we don't even know about
Starting point is 00:38:33 that have came out of like some 16 year old kid that's overdoing it on fat loss pill, skinny T, doing all that shit like that. It hospitalized over a shit. Sure, that's where he's just stuff like that. Yeah, in the past for sure. What's that book there? Yeah, I didn't know if you got it.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Like I brought this in because I thought it was hilarious. Like this is like my one Uncle Rico, like Almanac. Yeah, I'm like that guy that's like, well, I was at my parents house the other day. And here you can read just read the title of it I start laughing right away America's champion athletes award yearbook Wow, wait a minute. That's a title. How did you end up in is that really a thing? That's really a thing. Did you make that? Yeah, no
Starting point is 00:39:17 It's okay united like a ribbon for you know like a spelling the United States achievement Academy national awards 1996 to 1997. Yeah. America's Champion Athletes, America's Homecoming Queens and the Royal Court United States National Cheerleader Awards. Yeah. So I'm in a cheerleader party. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Oh, wait a minute. Is there okay? I have a tag, dude. Like on the side there. Yeah. Oh, you can find me. Justin Andrews. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 San Lorenzo Valley High School. Look at that. And that's an achievement. What did you Valley High School. Look at that. And that's an achievement. What did you achieve, though? Look at it. Look at the next tag. It'll highlight it. You look like a bully.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I know. They took the most angry pick. You're like such a mean kid. Yeah. Tell me what, oh, I got to look up your name here. Yeah. It's right at the top. Oh, let's see.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Just an Andrews. Yeah. All country award, all state Oh, let's see, Justin Andrews. Yeah. All country award, all state award, baseball, basketball, football, wow, weightlifting. And weightlifting. Damn, bro. In the match. Yeah, look, look.
Starting point is 00:40:17 What is it? Yeah, let's see a word. Let me see. No, I was like, I think it's mom made this. Yeah, like all American mentioned and all that kind of stuff. But it was just funny because I forgot about all that stuff and like my kids have always given me a hard time because they've only seen me play once, right?
Starting point is 00:40:30 At that like reunion game and all this and like, you know, they're always asking me like, I don't know, dad, did you really play and like they're like challenging me on the fact that I like actually started on the field and played and all this stuff and I'm coaching them. That's great, man. I found that and I was like, here, boom, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah, I slap you with that. That's very, very cool brother. No, it was cool. But it's totally like a skinny war. And then I was too tiny for college. I got no more. That was like my one period in life where I was like, I could throw it over this mountain, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So what were the weightlifting accomplishments and stuff like that? Yeah, like how do you get in that? Yeah, I remember that one. That was for squat, power, clean, and bench, and the combo of the three. Do you remember what that was? There's no reason.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So let me, is this how, like, you know, like in every high school you have, like we had it too, right? Like all the sports. Records, yeah, all the records. Yeah, it's all the records. So the school like sent. Okay, so is that how you get into this book? I think records, yeah, all the records. Yeah, it's all the records. So the school like sent. Okay, so is that how, is that how you get into this book? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 So you have records at the high school then they submit it to here. What, Adam fight, does it they were there? I know, I'm like, yeah, I was looking for you. I didn't see you and he didn't see you to step in those in there. It's up, yeah. Oh, we're gonna have to look at this.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And you know how I know the chess team, you know, maybe we'll look at that. And you know how I know that Adam and and I are not this is how humble Justin is First off, this is the first time we've ever heard of this if it was me or Adam would have been talked about Studio that's what thought it was funny. I was just like, ah whatever and then here's I here's the other thing that shows you all humble Justin is doesn't even remember the numbers he lived I could tell you the numbers I lifted when I was 15 60 years old no problem yeah you know I'm saying I just thought it was cool that it like gave me credit I that's all I care about
Starting point is 00:42:11 you know oh cool I did do something actually good job dude that's kind of cool man you need to be you need to be more boastful I'm trying to work on my braggadocious you know me yes I think I'll have it I'm trying to find if they have any kids from hotel here yeah I'm gonna see here. Now you guys suck. Yeah, they might. No, I won't mind. I've no idea. I know my-
Starting point is 00:42:28 I can fight you, dude. I didn't have any high school records, but my best friend had the record for steals and basketball, so I'm just like, curious if that's how. I'm curious to how you get in this. Yeah, and that was during those years, too. So that was my junior year. Bro, it's like, it looks like an official,
Starting point is 00:42:43 like American thing. Yeah, it's American. It is American. It's American athlete, champion athletes. Damn. Yeah, I'm gonna put that on my Instagram handle, I think. That's pretty cool. Hey, I got a cool article that I read,
Starting point is 00:42:56 not to change subjects, but they just developed a prosthetic, artificial hand that, number one, it reads the electric signals that come from the brain and move to the amputee's arm to control the hand, which we've had that before, right? So let's say you're an amputee, you put this prosthetic hand on, it'll, it starts to learn to read the muscle signals so you can control the hand like you would with normally or whatever. But it also has an algorithm that learns how to work with you because one of the challenges is, let's say I grab a cup, once it starts to slip, you have milliseconds to adjust your grip or change your grip. Well, this algorithm learns how to do that. So they're saying that this is the most realistic artificial hand that's ever been made.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So you start predicting patterns. Yeah, so we're getting close to the point where you'll get a prosthetic hand and you'll be able to articulate and do something. What happens when it gets too close to your crotch? Oh, no, not right now. Bad timing. The algorithms are controlling me. Yeah, scientists are like, well, the algorithm just reads what you do a lot of.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah, you try to predict. The reads was on your mind. Yeah, you're going to Starbucks. the algorithm just reads what you do a lot of yeah, try to predict reads was on your mind Yeah, you're going to Starbucks you're giving you something? But anyway, that's pretty cool, right? So I think I think we're probably a couple decades away from having like the Star Wars What's his name Luke Skywalker's hand? Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, we're almost maybe This quas brought to you by organify For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give
Starting point is 00:44:34 your health a performance-the-added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Nick Rosenbaum. I've seen many people claim that training arms every day will force him to grow. Some people even show good results. However, wouldn't that be overtraining and send a signal to repair damage rather than build muscle? I thought I talked about this. Back in the day, I would have been like, dumb, don't train body parts every single day,
Starting point is 00:45:11 you gotta give it rest, let's leave it alone, let it grow, whatever. And then I observed how many of the blue collar workers in my family had body parts that were very, very well developed that corresponded to whatever their job was. So I noticed that the plumbers in my family had these comically muscular forearms, whereas the rest of the body kind of look whatever, and they had these muscular forearms, none of them lifted weights.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I saw, I had male carriers, this is another one, male carriers in my family who were in their 50s and 60s who didn't work out. All of them had fantastic calves because they walked obviously miles every single day. And I put that together and thought, you know, I'm sure when you're a plumber for the first six months or so, you're getting sore in your hands
Starting point is 00:45:59 and you are breaking muscle down. But after that, you get used to it. Like I ask them, like do your hands and forms get sore? I mean, I get the occasional pain. He goes, but not the muscle. I don't really, he's been doing it for 20 or 30 years. So I figured, there's got to be something else that's going on. Then when you look back on all time workout routines, you see some of these strong men and athletes apply some of these principles. There's a squat every day plan, where you can squat every single day, and people would experience amazing muscle growth
Starting point is 00:46:33 in their legs and strength. I experienced crazy gains in my lifts from increasing the frequency I had a trainer who, in between clients, would go and do a couple sets of bench press. And this guy had like a 350 pound bench press and he was like 180 pounds, something like that. And I applied that same thing and I, my bench press went up 20 pounds and very short period of time.
Starting point is 00:46:54 So I started to realize that there was something to this. The key is the intensity. Yes. I'm unculating the intensity. Tell you that because I feel like that's the thing you have to be very careful. Because I remember as a kid I did this which rain arms every day Problem is I train arms every day to failure. Yeah, I mean I went in there and blasted them as much as I possibly could and hopes
Starting point is 00:47:16 They would grow and you know initially they're what they grew and then they kind of plateaued really hard and then I was just in this place Where I never felt like I could get them to grow anymore. So you have to understand that if you're training every single day, the intensity has to scale way back. Way back. I mean, it's got to scale way back just, like we talk a lot about frequency and talk and most all of our programs, you're hitting the muscle group no less than two,
Starting point is 00:47:42 a minimum of two to three times a week and every one of our programs. So minimum of two to three times a week in every one of our programs. So even when you do three times a week, in which you'll notice about the programs, most all, all, everything you're doing is just a couple sets, you know, a few sets at most per body part because we know you're gonna come back in a day or two and hit that again.
Starting point is 00:48:00 So we really scale back on the amount of volume and the intensity that you hit that again. So we really scale back on the amount of volume and the intensity that you hit that muscle. And when you use the analogy of your family and the male carriers and the mechanics that are working on things, like, you know, they're not adding extra resistance to make it harder to do. They're not maxing out. Yeah. They're using it more efficient. Right. They're using a wrench or their body weight. They're walking around so they can handle that intensity day in and day out. So you have to understand that if you approach training a muscle that frequently and the more
Starting point is 00:48:33 frequent you do it, the more you have to scale back the intensity. Well, technically with maps aesthetic, you could be training a body part technically six days a week. Now, three of those days are the hard workouts. The other three days or two days are what are called focus sessions and you're using exercises that are not nearly as intense. Your intensity is down, you're focusing on form, you're focusing on squeezing, the muscle you're focusing on the pump. Maps and a ballic, if you do the trigger sessions properly, technically, you can hit a body part every single day
Starting point is 00:49:05 and on some days, several times a day, but the intensity is greatly reduced on many of those days. And what you're doing is you're just sending a very light muscle building signal. Now, it's still a muscle building signal, it's just sent lightly, but that doesn't replace the heavy, loud muscle building signals,
Starting point is 00:49:22 you still need to do that. So if you're gonna do so, and I experienced this as a kid, I remember, back when I started working out, one body part that I was really concerned about when I first started training was my shoulders. I'm not a wide person, I don't have wide bone structure. And on top of it, I was really skinny. So I was a narrow, skinny dude,
Starting point is 00:49:41 and shirts just kinda hung on the sides. I was very self-conscious about my shoulders. And so I did my typical one day a week of hard, long shoulder workout, but I couldn't help myself but do a few sets at the end of every workout for my shoulders, because I just liked getting a pump. I liked the way it looked. And the irony of that was my shoulders
Starting point is 00:50:01 responded exceptionally well. I never piece that together until much later. So frequencies, a wonderful, beautiful tool you can use to really sculpt and shape your body. You wanna have at least, in my experience, two to three hard workouts a week for a body part. That's about the most people can have. Even then, you gotta, you gotta go.
Starting point is 00:50:22 You're not going to crazy failure. And you're not doing 12, 15 sets. No. So you gotta explain that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're doing, when you say that, sell three times a week hard, you're talking about three to five sets.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah, maybe, maybe at the most, you know, six sets, you know, for a body part of time, which is six times three would be what, 18 sets. Right. So if you're, if you're going hard three days a week, it's on five sets. So 18 sets, tops. Right, right, right. going hard three days a week, it's on five sets or 18 sets, tops. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:46 It's not what most magazines, that was the, that was the, the connection I didn't make as a kid. You know, I was, I would follow a workout and it's 15 to 20 sets for a muscle group like say your biceps. And then not because I wanted them to grow. So I just, I did that again and again and, and again, and again, every single day. And that's just way too much volume. That you're just doing so much damage,
Starting point is 00:51:09 you're never allowing the body to fully cover. So, yeah, you could train it three days hard, but hard doesn't mean more. You gotta be careful. No, your total volume per week for the hard sets is anywhere between nine to maybe 18 sets total. So that would be, if it's three days a week, that would be three sets each workout for that body part
Starting point is 00:51:30 or six sets each workout for that body part at the most. Not 18 sets on each workout. That would be, wait, one. Which when you say things like hard, I think that's what people think. And that's what I thought as a kid, like a hard workout to me, I gotta do at least 10, 12,
Starting point is 00:51:45 12, 12, yeah, I'm annihilating it. Now Olympic lifters, so Olympic lifters train very frequently. You look at some of the top Olympic lifters. It's very low intensity. Yeah, they're, it's all about explosiveness and techniques. They're not trained to failure. Intensity is definitely connected to hypertrophy,
Starting point is 00:52:02 which is muscle growth, but frequency is also connected to muscle growth, and frequency is good for strength, for learning technique. So what you wanna do is kinda combine the two, have your harder workouts, but modulate the intensity a little bit, and then have the kinda lighter workouts to bump up the frequency, and then watch what happens to your body.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I guarantee you look, I tell you what, if you're hitting a body part once a week for 15 sets, hit that body part three days a week and do five sets each workout, okay? You're just, you're working out more often, same total volume, watch what happens. Next question is from Jay Cisneros. What single exercise would each of you pick
Starting point is 00:52:37 that would have the biggest corrective benefit for the general population? Ooh, that's a tough one. I have two that come right to mine, right away. I 100% think that the seated row has to be one of the most beneficial exercises that everybody should have in their routine because of upper cross syndrome. And this is where I think the hip thrust has a ton of value. I think a hip thrust or floor bridge for the lower half. So I think a dress upper cross syndrome, lower cross syndrome have to be the two most prevalent
Starting point is 00:53:10 issues that we have with people's posture. Those two exercises help address that. So I think that if I were to only pick one, it would have to be one of those two. If I have to just pick one exercise to sort of highlight and address like almost every issue would be the Turkish get up. And that was not mainly because I could use that as a coach to assess where the deficiencies lied, you know, like what function were they not capable of of what they couldn't resist in terms of rotating certain body parts
Starting point is 00:53:47 or what they couldn't sustain in terms of, like did they have the actual stamina to be able to hold the weight the entire time and be able to stay focused and fixed. And as if it's focused the issue, is direction the issue is body communication, body awareness, lots of different like body communication, body awareness, like, you know, lots of different things and strength, you know, abdominal strength, just the crunch,
Starting point is 00:54:11 you know, in that first move or press or just get off the ground and it just, it shows me a lot about how their entire body and kinetic chain is linked together. Yeah, I like that exercise. I guess this is assuming that the single exercises done properly. Because then I think about a Turkish get up and like, wow, the general population. They're not gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:54:30 They're not gonna do it. It's almost like a humbling move. We would have to assume that they could do it. We would have to assume that they could do it. The biggest corrective exercise, right? So, because I would say a squat would be up there with one of the best single overall exercises that addresses everything.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But if you have a serious posture issues and you have incredibly poor mechanics, me just doing a bad squat forever is a terrible idea. And I feel the same way about the Turkish get up. It's like if I have excessive forward shoulder, terrible trunk rotation, I have terrible ankle mobility. My Turkish get up is gonna be a fucking disaster and doing just the Turkish get up to me
Starting point is 00:55:11 is not going to be able to address that as well as something that's going to directly combat what I think are some of the most prevalent problems, which would be the rounded forward shoulders or like an anterior pelvic tilt. Those two things, in my opinion, are the worst, though the two exercises that I listed, I think, directly combat those issues.
Starting point is 00:55:31 So that's, we're on. It's a tough one, right? Because you have to assume either, you either assume that they can do the exercise properly or you assume average person, which most people can't do, most exercises properly, right? Because then you're right,
Starting point is 00:55:44 I would pick overhead presses and squatting and, you know, but the average person, you just tell them to do that, they're gonna hurt themselves or cause their problems to get worse. Prone Cobra is gotta be one for me. That's a great one. Because I think the average person can get it,
Starting point is 00:55:59 can kinda do it. And then the Prone Cobra does work on that scapular attraction. It does work on external rotation with the shoulders. It does offset some of those issues, but it doesn't address the lower body at all. There's no lumbel pelvic kick. If I were to simplify it, and I know the Turkish getups, probably the most complex, you know, the set of movements you could string together, I'd probably do like a bodyweight windmill just because that way too, I could get that.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Because the fact that people just aren't rotating enough and they don't, and to be able to see how they can articulate, you know, their back and shoulders and hinge their hips properly and, you know, work their way down. So it does include the lower body on that level as well, but also shows, you know, like what I'm working with in terms of their posture. Not to take this in a different direction, but I think the single best activity that has both the biggest realistic effect, in other words, that most people would actually do it and have a huge payback in terms of health would be just walking. Walking. Well, walking requires, swimming requires a pool
Starting point is 00:57:08 and a body of water. Walking doesn't require all that. So it's in its realistic because most people can walk. So it's like, if we, if people would just walk more, that's not the answer, it's not the answer to everything. But it's kind of a realistic approach, right?
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's like, okay, you can go outside and walk. Yeah, it's okay, why don't you do that and then see what happened. Everything else requires a level of instruction. Yeah, I think, but yeah, you're definitely taking it a different direction because it's like what single exercise would each of you pick that would have
Starting point is 00:57:33 the biggest corrective benefit for the general population? And I mean, I'm listening to what you guys are saying right now and I'm walking isn't a corrective thing. No, it's not. It's what you should do for overall health. 100% Turkish get up same thing in the windmill. But I'm like, when I think corrective, I think of what have we seen over our... Fix the problem.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah, what are the most common problem? I like your prone cobra. Yeah, prone cobra would be bad for her. I can get down with prone cobra because that directly combats upper cross syndrome. And the reason why I couldn't isolate it to just one is because lower cross syndrome is almost as prevalent as upper cross syndrome. And the reason why I couldn't isolate it to just one is because lower cross syndrome is almost as prevalent as upper cross syndrome. They're both, I mean, it's pretty much everybody has both of those or one of those excessively. So, you know, I wouldn't want to just only do one exercise. I would have to do something to address the
Starting point is 00:58:20 upper cross syndrome and then something to address the lower cross syndrome. And to me, uh, floor bridge or a hip thrust directly combats, uh, the lower issues and then something like a row or a prone cobra, I think directly combats the, the upper, right? Mm hmm. Next question is from low ground. How do you overcome the, I'll just start tomorrow mentality when you have a bad moment or day? Uh, every moment is an opportunity to start. I'll just start tomorrow mentality when you have a bad moment or day. Every moment is an opportunity to start. Every single moment.
Starting point is 00:58:50 So literally the second after you make a quote-unquote bad decision or one that wasn't in line with your goals, the next available moment is a time that you can start fresh. And this is an interesting way of looking at things. It's one that I think is more beneficial. It's funny, we have our days and weeks and months are broken up into these arbitrary time frame. You know, a day, that's not arbitrary necessarily,
Starting point is 00:59:22 but 24 hours because the sun rises and sets and then we break that up into You know weeks which is seven days and then months and so you end up getting this like January's around the corner. I'm gonna wait till January so I could start the new year or Okay, I'll wait till Monday because Monday starts the week But the reality is every moment is is. Every single moment is starting over. So when something happens rather than kind of harping on it, you're in a new space. Like, okay, that happened. Now I'm going to get back and do, you know, and follow what I think is going to help me out.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I also think too, it goes back to a question I think we just recently answered too about goal setting and sometimes setting too much too soon or trying, like, for example, like I love having a gym membership because sometimes I feel like this. Sometimes I'm not being very consistent and I told myself in the morning that, you know, today I'm going to make sure I get this workout in and maybe yesterday when I was talking about that I'm going to do this. When the morning time came around, I'm tired of sure I get this workout in and maybe yesterday when I was talking about that I'm gonna do this. When the morning time came around, I'm tired, I'm fatigued, I got busy and I'm like, now I'm like, I'll just do it tomorrow, right?
Starting point is 01:00:33 Instead of, I'll just do it tomorrow. If I told myself, I'll do it today. Maybe instead of like committing to this hardcore workout that I'm gonna do, I'm just gonna get to the gym and be okay with, maybe I'll go to the gym and only walk on the treadmill or maybe I'll go to the gym and only walk on the treadmill or maybe I'll go to the gym and only do one exercise like just okay with that. And so I think that will help because sometimes when you are thinking about going to do a workout, we connect workouts with this. It's got to be like an ass kicker.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I got to be sweating. I have to feel that way. It's if it doesn't count. Right. Exactly. As if going to the gym and actually walking on the treadmill for 20 minutes and doing 10 bicep curls doesn't count. It counts. Accounts.
Starting point is 01:01:08 It's better than nothing. It's better than you saying I'll go tomorrow. So what I've learned to do now is just, hey, if I commit that I'm going to go today or whatever, I'm going today. I can, my lazy ass could drive to the gym. Now sometimes I, and I have done this before, where I had the intention of starting a really good workout and I had a plan and it's going to be this
Starting point is 01:01:28 thing and I just was not going to feeling it at all, but I was also not going to not go to the gym because I've committed to that. And then I went there and I just walked on the treadmill for an entire hour and listened to music or read something on my phone while I'm walking there. It's like just doing that already is a step in the right direction. And sometimes we think we have to take this giant step to get started. And when we think of a giant step and you got such a busy life and all this other shit going on, it's really easy to get stuck in that mentality of, you know, I'll just smart, I'll start tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Would you say before movement creates momentum? Right. It has to be something super simple. Like, even if you have that thought that, oh, tomorrow, like do something right then. Like do some air squats, do some push. I don't even care what the fuck it is. That's good movement. Yes, you have to do something.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Be actionable. You know, even if it's writing it down on a piece of paper, like you did something. Well, the amazing part is when you do that, a lot of times, and this has also happened, there's sometimes when I go, and it ends up being a one hour walk on the treadmill, and I didn't hit the,
Starting point is 01:02:32 but then there's other times where it starts off, and I only do a few sets of bison curls, but then the blood gets flowing, you know, I get a little bit of energy back, the right song hits my headphones, right then, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do another exercise. And then another exercise turns into another exercise. And then before you know it,
Starting point is 01:02:48 I got a great one hour workout. So, you know, be okay with, hey, I might go there and only do one thing or walk or do something create movement like Justin's saying. But, because sometimes it does end up leading into a great workout. So, something that I like to visualize that helps me, anytime I'm doing something difficult
Starting point is 01:03:07 because there are tasks that we, big goals that you can set for yourself that just seem insurmountable. Like, I want to save X amount of dollars or I wanna lose 30 pounds or I wanna increase 50 pounds on this particular lift or whatever. They can seem initially just like impossible. Gosh, how do you lose 30 pounds? Like, what okay fine, if I lost the pound a week to take 30 weeks and that's
Starting point is 01:03:37 not a good pace, that could take a long time. That means if I don't mess up, I can totally understand what that feels like. So try visualizing this. If you took, and I've used this before, if you took two parallel lines, two lines that were perfectly parallel to each other, and you moved one, just a fraction, one fourth of a degree to the right, that's it. You wouldn't even be able to tell
Starting point is 01:03:59 that they weren't parallel, but if you follow those two lines for a mile, five miles, 10 miles, 100 miles, the distance between those two lines would become vast. And the further you follow those two lines, the further apart they are, literally. And they continue to drift apart the more time you follow them down their path. That's you. So you're following some path, just adjust it a slight degree to the direction you want to move. That's it. And then stay on that slight degree change. And then watch what happens as time passes, as time passes, more and more changes
Starting point is 01:04:38 happen. And you get further and further along and you get closer and closer to your goal. So start with something that's challenging, but realistic, that's a small change. Stay there and then wait and trust me, you'll know when it's time to add the next small but realistic and challenging change. And then that leads to the big changes every single time. Next question is from Jay Slaba. Can you give behind the scenes on making a podcast, such as staff, prep, interviewer, and question selection,
Starting point is 01:05:09 roles, and assignments, et cetera? This has changed a lot since early days of making the podcast. Oh, of course. Yeah. Early days, we used to meet, slaying it. After work, we'd all meet up at like, I don't know what time we would meet up, like six o'clock, five o'clock, six. And first we started all meet up at like, I don't know what time we would meet up, like six o'clock, five o'clock, six.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And first we started in Doug's living room. And then we had a little studio. And the four of us would meet there once or twice a week and record three episodes all at once. And it was, the prep was literally, we kind of did the room. Hey, you guys want to talk about a little whiskey? And then, yeah. You wanna talk about this?
Starting point is 01:05:44 Okay, let's go. And Doug would turn on the microphones and we would literally just go. And back then it was really easy because they were only, you know, we, I think we did something and we looked up like the average commute in the United States and it was like 28 minutes or something like that.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And so the goal was, 30 minute episode. Yeah, never when you saw used to go, how do you still have to check the time? Hey Doug, how much time we got? So in that lab. Yeah. Yeah, in have to check the time. Hey, Doug, how much time we got? So I left. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 In the middle of the episode. No, it's weird. It's weird how we don't need, we feel the time. Yeah, yeah. How accurately we feel, how long we've been going. So that's that's Shane. Then it turned into we'd come into the studio and we would say, OK, what topic are we
Starting point is 01:06:22 going to talk about? And we would maybe thought about it before. Then it turned into, we would all come with some, I would bring, I like to read studies and articles and so I would just save them and add them with safe stuff and just them would have stuff. Then we'd come in and we would just bring them up. Oh, I read this article, I did this thing.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And now there's a little bit more prep. Now we sit down, we write down, we have a TV screen up in the studio, and we write down loosely, articles we wanna bring up, things that happened to us the day before, or whatever, that we wanna bring up, whatever product we may have used that we wanna comment on.
Starting point is 01:07:01 If it fits in the conversation, then it makes it, if not, we sometimes don't pull from it, but yeah, it's still. If it fits in the conversation, then it makes it. If not, we sometimes don't, you know, pull from it. But yeah, it's still somewhat loose, which I'm glad because like if it's too structured, I just don't think that we could have a good conversation. It's not structured at all. And honestly, what's kind of cool, how we've been able to keep it really organic still is that
Starting point is 01:07:20 and there was never really a conversation around this. It just kind of naturally happened more. We started to piece together that the audience really enjoyed this a little bit of personal stories, a little bit of science, a little bit of business talk and maybe debate on conversation around health and fitness and social shit that's going on. And then of course, we have the business side
Starting point is 01:07:45 where we have to address our partnerships. And so we kind of like we know all that. Like we come in and we know that those are things that people want. And each of us, no one says anything. The night before or the morning of, I don't know when everybody does their kind of homework or research, my routine before I had a kid
Starting point is 01:08:02 was the morning before I'm having to do it late at night now. But before it was first thing in the morning, I'd get up extra early and have my cup of coffee and I'd read some articles and Go through some stuff and I would take some notes of like hey, these are some things that I want to bring up I wouldn't tell that they guys don't know anything about it And then they would do the same thing too So everybody kind of does this on their own and it's unsaid. And then when we get in the studio, Rachel, she's in charge of partnerships and she manages that. So she comes in, she meets us with us in the morning and she'll tell us like, for example, today was, you know, mere and organized products. And so she'll either share with us new things that
Starting point is 01:08:40 are going on with their partnerships or what we've recently done with them so we can share and talk about that. And then we integrate that into conversation somehow. Again, it's not structured. Nobody knows how it's gonna happen. It just kinda naturally happens during the show. Sometimes the one guy will be like, oh, don't worry, I got it. I just, like Sal, today who said,
Starting point is 01:08:58 the yesterday I was just using a different plant protein remind of me of how good it organized. I'll take care of that commercial. It's interesting how it's like influenced life outside of this too, which I pay a lot more attention to moments where I'm like, oh wow, like, if I was using one of the products or if I was like, just out and about and it was a funny thing that happened,
Starting point is 01:09:20 I'm like writing that down now, like, after kind of like documenting, you know, what's going on my life a lot more, because it just makes for better conversation on here. And so that's like, that's one of those things. Right. One thing that I really appreciate is that we allow the podcast to naturally take shape in terms of, you know, who tends to talk about what and what the conversation, where the conversation is going to lead. And we, there was no, I mean, it's funny early on when we very, very, very first started who tends to talk about what and what the conversation, where the conversation's gonna lead.
Starting point is 01:09:45 There was no, I mean, it's funny early on when we very, very, very first started the podcast before we launched the podcast, there was a fourth member. And he had an issue with how much airtime each one of us would have. He wanted to make sure that we all spoke at certain amount and, okay, Sal, you're talking too much. And he didn't even start talking.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah, and all of us were like, no. I was like, yeah, gross. Let's not have a conversation. No, it needs to be very, very authentic and we just do our thing. And then if it morphs and molds and turns into whatever it's gonna turn into, so now it's turned into a show with intro and questions.
Starting point is 01:10:18 That was never really planned. It was just, that's just kind of naturally how the episode started. Doug would turn the mics on. We would have fun conversation and then we'd be like, hey, let's talk about squats and then we'd end up talking about squats. Now, it's also, I mean, we're addressing a lot of the show, but there's also a lot of things that have happened with staff, right?
Starting point is 01:10:37 So we've really evolved. Oh, so much. Yeah, I mean, right now you have people have no idea. Yeah, you have Andrew behind the cameras right now, who's bouncing between each of us as we talk and taking notes to on specific topics that we hit things that Strike a chord with him he'll take notes and then him and Rachel will meet and that's how she comes up with specific clips for the Instagram They'll take a 30 second to a minute sound bites from some of these episodes and that gets post on Instagram to a minute sound bites from some of these episodes and that gets posted on Instagram, Doug's over behind the computer and manning everything.
Starting point is 01:11:07 So when South starts talking loud and squeaky, he's always constantly adjusting him and turning his voice down or Justin's not talking loud enough, he's turning it up. And so... Maybe I should beep out with Justin just said. Yeah, so Doug's constantly on that making sure everything sounds on point for the listener.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And then all this gets sent back over to Rachel after a Doug edits and goes through that. She then takes clips of whatever we've done for commercials for our partners. And then she meets with our partners once a week and makes sure that the way we're talking about their brands is up to, up to par with what they're looking for and that we're communicating right, and then when we meet with her again, every single Monday, she's downloading us on anything that's happening new with them, and so we have direction to take future commercials
Starting point is 01:11:56 and talk about, so that's happening. What else do we got going on that's different now that we think? Well, I mean, we have people making YouTube videos and put those out and we have people writing content for us. It's a large, it's a pretty big operation now. It's a big organism now. Yeah, and what you see is the surface.
Starting point is 01:12:15 There's a lot of stuff. It's like a iceberg, right? You see the tip of the iceberg and underneath the water, there's a huge piece of ice. There's a lot of moving parts to it. But at the end of the day, what I really appreciate is that our content still comes from just kind of how we talk about things. Oh, yeah, even when we have notes of things that each of us may want to talk about, rarely ever, does that go accordingly. I mean, it almost never does. In fact, what ends up normally happening, happening is just because naturally we've all brought something to talk about.
Starting point is 01:12:45 One of us ends up striking a chord. Somebody hits a topic that like, oh, we're all now interested in. And then we kind of go down the rabbit hole. And then a lot of times, you know, one of the other two guys who had notes about things that they might have, they don't even bring it up. They just, whatever, move on from it because that ended up being a great topic. Well, I tell you what, it's an interesting skill. And I think it's almost like driving
Starting point is 01:13:06 with navigation all the time and then you turn off your navigation, oh my god, I'm lost. We, we just start, we have our conversations and we don't necessarily need to rely on what notes we have or what's on the screen. And I like that. I feel like it's a superpower. I really do. I feel like we could, and it helps to produce well, it's produced as much content as we do. To that point, going over to like interviews, right? So we just, we just had an incredible interview that we just did right now this morning that I'm really excited to release
Starting point is 01:13:35 because I was super interested in the topic. Something that we do for prepping for an interview, each guy kinda does his own homework, you know, researching TED Talks, blog articles, their website, diving through their social, and everybody does that on their own time. And then when we come to an interview, I don't, I tried this before, so I would have questions,
Starting point is 01:13:56 and I might write these down in my notes of like things I wanna go to, but rarely ever, do I like ask the question the way I have it written in my notes, it never happens that way. Well, yeah, and to that point, I think you have heard podcasts that will do that and they'll keep them, you know, very much in that that cadence of like, okay, this question and this question, and it's like follows like the interviewer is like driving the conversation versus it's like a dialogue. And I think we all just really love the dialogue
Starting point is 01:14:25 and to have like a round robin discussion about these topics. Yeah, so we, so you, everyone may do their homework because it's important that we all know our guest and have things they wanna talk about so that we don't have like dead air. But once the conversation gets flowing, what's neat is, you know, we're real, we're authentic
Starting point is 01:14:43 and we're genuinely interested in the gas that's there. And so we kind of just let the conversation flow in any direction. And because we've done our homework and we know enough about them, if one of us probably feels that the conversation is getting boring, we probably redirect and go to a topic that we've been wanting to get to with them. Good times. And with that, go to mindpumpFree.com and download our guides. They're all 100% free.
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