Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1172: Four Ways to Change Your Workout for Maximum Results
Episode Date: November 28, 2019In this episode, Sal, Adam and Justin discuss four ways to change up your workout to build more muscle, become stronger, improve performance and prevent injury. The things that are preventing you fro...m reaching your goals. (2:46) Four ways to change your goal to achieve the maximum benefits of your routine. (4:43) #1 – Focusing on addressing correctional exercises to expand your potential. (9:42) #2 – Adding a strength training phase to your routine to place the focus on how strong you are rather than how you look. (25:15) #3 – Training for athletic performance to improve your overall quality of life. (37:44) #4 – Incorporating bodybuilder training to develop your muscles and sculpt your body. (46:21) People Mentioned Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness) Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned Black Friday Specials: MAPS Bundles 25% off (Code “BFBUNDLES” at checkout) - MAPS Programs/Guides/MODS 50% off [except MAPS Powerlift] (Code “BLACKFRIDAY50” at checkout) Mind Pump TV - YouTube The Importance of Muscular Strength in Athletic Performance Size vs. Strength: How Important is Muscle Growth For Strength Gains? The effect of training volume and intensity on improvements in muscular strength and size in resistance-trained men Mind Pump Free Resources
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Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
In this episode of Mind Pump, we talk about the four most important ways you can change your workouts for maximum results.
Now, you may be thinking, oh, you mean like change my rep range or change my stats or
whatever?
Yes, but no.
What we're talking about is changing your goals.
Why you should routinely change your goals and then work backwards from there.
In other words, if your goal is correctional exercise, which should be one of your goals
throughout the year, how do I accomplish that?
So we go over four of them. I said correctional, that be one of your goals throughout the year. How do I accomplish that? So we go over four of them.
I said correctional, that's one of them.
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and why everybody should spend at least some time
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I get questions like this all the time about the importance of changing your routine up
and like how important is that to get results or reach your goal.
And I thought if we did an episode along those lines, I think it would be a valuable
episode.
I don't think we've ever done anything that is specific to that topic.
I think if there's, there's several things that prevent people from getting to the goals.
Now, there's the obvious, which is inconsistency, like I'm not working out.
So, besides that, the next most common reason why people don't progress is that they follow
a program, it's start, it works, then it stops working,
and they don't know what to do from there.
They just don't know what to do from there.
And I used to see this in gyms all the time.
When you manage gyms for a long time,
you have your people that come in and out,
that buy memberships use it for a few months
or whatever, and then you don't seem again.
But then you have the people that are the regulars
that show up all the time.
And you could divide those people into two categories,
the ones that seem to get great results all the time,
and the ones that seem to just,
the constant state of plateau.
Just serious creatures of habit.
Yes, and you watch the routine,
you guys you ever do this, you'd see the routine,
it would be the same thing.
Oh yeah, there's John, he's gonna go over here.
He's always on the stair master,
and then he's gonna go over here,
and then you could pretty much predict exactly where they'd be. Yes, and I think There's John, he's going to go over here. He's always on the stair master and then he's going to go over here and then you can pretty
much predict exactly where they'd be.
Yes.
I think that's one into the spectrum, right?
The extreme, John who's been coming for 20 years and he does the exact same five exercises
he's done for 20 years or clients of mine that's been following the same, Jane Fonda video
for 30 years of her life or whatever, those are the extreme.
I think a lot of people
fall somewhere on that spectrum, including myself.
Like, when I think back to, even in my early days
as a personal trainer, I would gravitate
towards my favorite exercises.
And, you know, drop into my favorite rep ranges.
And the tempo that I trained at was fairly similar.
And the goals that I was trying to chase
were very similar all the time.
So I actually think that more people than you think
fall into this trap of not understanding the importance
of transitioning out.
And what I wanted to do was to simplify it for the audience
is to, you know, think of like
four major ways for people to change their workout for, for maximum. Right. Now this message has been
getting out, right? People are kind of understanding that they need to change things up. But the problem
is there, the way that they approach it. So they think, and there's some value to this, right?
They think if I just change the exercises,
I've changed my workout,
and now I'm gonna continue to progress.
Well, if you really want long-term success,
and you want maximal success,
you wanna really get the most return for your effort,
you wanna work backwards.
So rather than looking and saying,
I'm just gonna change the exercise, look at this way, I'm going to change my goal.
If I change my goal, now I work backwards from there. So you plan your workout, basically, the goal.
Now you're making real changes. Now your body really gets the signals that are going to get it to consistently progress and change.
So rather than going to the gym and just saying,
instead of squats today, I'm doing leg press.
Rather than doing that, I'm saying,
instead of my goal being strength,
my goal is going to be athletic performance,
or instead of it being about bodybuilding,
my goal is gonna be about correcting my movement patterns.
Then you work backwards from there.
That's the way, and by the way,
that's the way good trainers write up workouts.
They don't write up workouts just to change things.
If I'm training clients and I've trained someone
for four months and their body started to plateau,
I don't just change things up.
I say, okay, we've been focused on this goal
for four months, now we're gonna switch to this goal
and then I work from there and design the workout from there.
That's the real value personal trainers provide because they're the ones responsible for taking you on a completely different path.
And a lot of times people will be very resistant towards that on their own
because it is so comfortable.
It's you might try something new, but you want to immediately fall back into a routine that you know feels good.
And I'll give you an example. Adam for years was just focused on bodybuilding.
Any changed exercises and changed routines.
But really, when you really saw the most change
in how your body operated and moved and all that stuff,
was when you went from bodybuilding to mobility,
or from mobility to strength.
It's changing the goal, That's the big thing.
So the one thing that I hope people take from this episode is that right there and I think we should
break that down. Yeah, and the most important thing too is that when you change your goal, it
doesn't necessarily mean you're still not pursuing your main goal. I think that's important.
All right. Right? Because like, for example, somebody who like myself who was training to look a certain
way on stage and I cared about the way my body looks.
That's my main goal.
That doesn't mean that when I switch to mobility or athletic performance or I switch to
strength training, that now I don't get to go towards my overall original big goal.
And I think that's the mistake that people make.
We see this and why I think we get
these camps in training. Like, oh, I'm a power lifter. Oh, I'm an athlete. So I train this way. Oh,
I'm a bodybuilder. So I train this way. But the reality of it is, you know, for anybody, no
matter what your pursuit is, the to get the maximum benefits from your weight training routine,
you want to shift your goals around. There is a way to blend all those attributes towards that goal.
And there's definitely a percentage where whatever you're going towards is going to make
up the majority.
But these other pursuits have a magical way of progressing you beyond what you could
have done just doing the same thing.
Think of it this way, right?
So let's say your goal is maximal hypertrophy.
All you care about is bodybuilding.
Well, at some point you're going to hit your rev limiter.
You're going to max out how much you can squeeze out of your muscle building routine.
Now let's say you switch to a power lifting strength type routine or an athletic performance type routine.
You're not going to push the rev,
you're not going to move the revs up like you were
with the bodybuilding, but what you are going to do
because you change your goal is you're going to change the limit,
the rev limiter.
I'm expanding the ability for me now to rev even higher.
Then when I go back to bodybuilding,
now I have a higher, I have a better capacity.
So if somebody, another example,
if you're just bodybuilding, just bodybuilding,
just bodybuilding, you're gonna get a great deal
of results for bodybuilding.
But at some point, you're gonna start to hit a limit.
Now if you switch to, let's say, mobility training,
are you going to, at that moment, build more muscle?
No, but you've expanded your capacity.
Now for when you go back to bodybuilding to build more muscle? No, but you've expanded your capacity. Now, for when you go back to bodybuilding to build more muscle. So they all do contribute
to each other. And if you're looking for continual, perpetual progress, that's what you
want to do. You want to change your goals and you want to do it in a systematic way.
So I want to start with the one that I think is probably neglected the most, which is ironic
to me because all of our years of personal training, I know for sure, because you guys
were great trainers, that your first training session was centered around this point that
I think too many people neglect.
And I think that the point that I'm going to make is something that either one, you should
live in this goal for a while, if needed.
But at the bare minimum, everybody should visit this goal, so they understand how they should
get their body ready before they go into any other training program.
And that is addressing correctional stuff.
Totally.
And because I don't care how athletic you are, how strong, how buff, how great you look,
everybody has in balances,
and everybody has worked to be done in this area.
Now, some clients, especially my clients in advanced age,
and that neglected training,
or had multiple surgeries, or chronic back pain,
a lot of these clients would live in this type of face.
This would be their goal, is to address all of these issues and stay in this type of
... Well, because they had decades of bad movement patterns. That just didn't happen overnight.
I think a lot of times people don't want to admit what they're dealing with really.
They should really just focus in on,
you know, correcting this.
This is something that they can,
you know, make a lot of progress with
if they're willing to go through that journey
and really focus in on that specific part of training.
The correctional exercise,
when you make correctional exercise,
you're a goal.
What you're really trying to do is you're trying to build
a solid,
more capable structure so that when you move into strength or bodybuilding or athletic
performance or any other goal, that structure is solid enough for you to squeeze out the
most out of those other phases, the most out of if you want to build maximal strength.
So again, if I want to build maximal strength in my squat, in my body's mobility, my body's
movement patterns allow me to squeeze out, let's say, 100 being a target, 100, let's
say 100 points, correctional exercise may move that capability up to 150.
Then when I go to build maximal strength,
I don't stop at 100 because your body will prevent you from progressing
if it believes you're going to hurt yourself.
In fact, the best athletes in the world,
the best strength athletes in the world are able to max out
what their body's full capability actually is.
The untrained individual, your body doesn't let you
really reach in and get all of your strength.
It's trying to protect itself.
So correctional exercise is setting up that structure.
And for some people it may not be as fun,
I'm not in the gym, I'm not bodybuilding,
I'm not pushing heavy weight.
But when you do get to the point
when you start to push heavy weight
and you start to bodybuild or whatever,
because your capability is so much higher,
because your structure and your movement patterns
are so much better, oh, you're gonna blow the doors off
of what your potential was before.
So correctional exercise really is about expanding upon
your potential, that's really what it's all about.
So before I go in and squat heavy,
I wanna make sure that I have the best movement pattern
for my squat, because the best movement pattern
for my squat is gonna give you the most potential
for building muscle and building strength.
This is true for all exercises and all physical pursuits.
Correctional exercise, and this is why I said
we gotta work backwards.
It's not just about doing correctional exercise movements,
although that's a big part of it.
There are exercises that are specifically most appropriate, I
would say, for correctional exercise purposes. But that's not the only way that you approach
correctional exercise. Really, it's an attitude. When I go into train to correct movement patterns,
that's what I'm focused on. I'm not necessarily focused on the weight
that I'm moving, the pump, you know,
sculpting and shaping my body.
I am trying to solidify the best movement pattern.
So my attitude when I go to the gym is totally different.
The weight is arbitrary that I'm using.
It really doesn't matter.
I'm using a weight that's allowing me to challenge myself
but allowing me to get perfect form.
Anything over that is too much, anything under that, and I'm not really
challenging myself. I'm also, the intention is extremely important. There's some correctional
exercise movements where if you're looking at me, doing them, you can't even tell what
I'm doing. You can tell I'm struggling, but you don't really know, what are you activating?
What are you pushing? I can see that you're straining. It's all about the intention. I'm
trying to solidify and create this movement pattern to connect to these muscles in different ways
so that when I do go through other goals, I just have much better results. And going through this
process is so important because you really get to understand your body on a higher level. And you specifically, your individual needs.
How you tend to want to compensate,
how your body tends to react to certain intensities
and forces and that's important because even as you progress,
you still need to come back and revisit these things
because there's the potential where we add more load, we add more stress to the body,
inevitably your body's gonna react.
So now coming back to some of these rituals
that you learn how to establish
as beneficial movement patterns for yourself is so important.
Well, the beauty of it is it may seem daunting
or boring at first when you have a goal like this, like,
oh, my trainer told me I've got forward head
and rounded shoulders and my heels rise
when I squat have terrible ankle mobility.
So the next five weeks, that's what I got focused on.
Yeah, right.
So for the next five weeks, I'm focusing on
all these exercises to address that.
Now, that's why I think a lot of people don't do it
because it's not sexy.
It can seem laborious, but the beauty of it is
when you actually focus on it like a goal
and you take it seriously, you'll see progression
relatively quick when you put the work in
and you'll feel a difference, especially somebody
that has chronic pain, you have knee pain,
you have back pain, you have neck pain, shoulder pain,
and you start to address these correctional exercises
or these movements, you'll start to see that get better.
Now what's beautiful about that is now you've kind of figured
out like, okay, this is, because we're all so different, right?
Whether you sit at a computer desk or you're a teacher
and you're riding on a whiteboard all day long,
or you're on your phone or computer,
all these things are going to shape the body based off of you individually.
To Justin's point, that's what's so important about setting this as a goal,
so you can figure out, okay, what is it that my body needs?
Now, once you've figured that out, once you've set a goal out,
you've worked towards it for, say, five weeks, like Sal's saying,
then I know what I just kind of need to implement.
And so, and I'll use myself as example with those that have been
listening or following my journey for the last five to six years.
You know, I was able to get up on stage at 3% body fat,
present my physique and it look really good to the,
you know, to the average person or judges.
But the reality of it was I had chronic back pain, I had presidus in my hips, and I was
very limited on my squat depth because I wasn't addressing these things.
Now I had to regress, let go of, I was squatting 400-something pounds and it feels good to
stack all that weight on there.
That didn't matter, like to what Sal was saying earlier.
Now it was about, I need to improve these movements and I need to do things like the combat
stretch and work on my 90, 90.
And I, but I, I knew that I needed to set that as a goal in order for me to really take
it seriously and put the work in.
Now what's beautiful is I don't have to spend that same time anymore.
As long as I get down in my, you know, the squat and scroll position that people always
see me, what's great about that is that position promotes good hip mobility, promotes good ankle
mobility, which it took me, you know, months to getting there by doing all these, these
correctional type exercises together.
But now that I'm there, all I have to do is promote a movement like that and it keeps
me mobile.
And so think about this way.
It's like, you know, you want to be a fast swimmer.
Well, you got to focus on your technique before you get in the pool and just swim as hard
as you can.
You're going to spend a lot of time on getting the best, perfect swim technique
before you get in there and flail your arms and legs
as fast as you can.
Now, similarly to what Adam's talking about,
when you're a beginner, if you're getting started,
you're gonna have to spend,
you should spend some time dedicated specifically to this,
specifically to correctional exercise, like six weeks or
nine weeks or 12 weeks depending on how bad, how much of a beginner you are and how bad
your movement patterns are, specifically, you know, right targeting correctional exercise
and movements.
Now when you're advanced, you know, do advanced swimmers need to focus on their swim technique?
Yeah.
Now they don't need to spend weeks just on swim technique like they would with a beginner,
but every once in a while they revisit their technique and
Perfect it. This is true for any athlete boxers, baseball players, whatever.
Before you get up to the plate and swing as hard as you can, you got to learn the technique of swinging the bat.
Correctional exercise is that and so most people listening, especially if you're beginner,
you should spend an entire phase, an entire,
that should be your goal for at least a couple months
before you move into anything else.
Now, if you're intermediate or advanced,
this is something you can inject
while you're focusing on other goals.
This is something that you touch up on
while you're doing other things.
Now, the characteristics of correctional exercise,
this correctional exercise movements,
which tend to be different than
your traditional muscle building strength building type movements,
things like the 90, 90, or the combat stretch or lizard with rotation.
These aren't traditionally muscle building strength building movements,
but they are good for correctional exercise purposes.
So there's one characteristic.
Another characteristic is the intention.
I can turn many exercises into correctional exercise movement.
So a squat can be a very effective strength or muscle building exercise, or I can go really,
really light and just perfect and practice the movement and focus on correct movement
and pushing my knees into certain positions
and working on my ankle mobility
or sitting at the bottom of the squat with the bar
without any weight.
So the intentions and other part of it.
Here's another characteristic, frequency.
The of all the goals that you can focus on
with your workouts, correctional exercise
benefits the most from frequency, more than the other.
So what I mean by that is if I'm training for maximal strength, I may strength train for a few days a week on a particular exercise or body part or whatever.
When it comes to correctional exercise, two or three times a day is best. Now this
means this doesn't mean you're doing two or three hours a day.
Correctional exercise is also characterized by shorter periods of time being spent.
Now why? There's also less intense. This is why I tell people that to set this as a goal
to go through it because what you'll find out when you go through like a program that's
like correctional based is you're going to see, and this is where it's so unique to everybody, is you're going to see that there's certain
moves that really make a difference for you.
Somebody else may do something like, you know, the lizard with rotation or the 90-90, and
they've got incredible hip mobility.
And so they don't see major, but boy, their ankle mobility is extremely limited.
So when they do the combat stretch, boy, that's really tough for them. So you start to find
these movements that you really need to incorporate. And then those, you'll pick a handful of those
at most, right? I normally only recommend two to four of these movements that to focus on at a time.
And I encourage the frequency all day long.
That means five minutes.
Five to 10 minutes.
Five minutes, get down, do the combat stretch.
Go about your day.
Hours later, get down, do the combat stretch,
spend five minutes, get out of it.
It does not need to be this workout session
and like to what you were saying, South, so true.
The frequency is so much more important
when we're talking about correctional
because you're probably doing things in your day
that are countering that signal,
so you need to put that extra frequency in.
It's about changing recruitment patterns,
so frequency is super important,
so daily or several times a day,
short periods of time, and the intensity needs to be moderate.
Now, why would the duration need to be short
and the intensity be moderate?
Well, I'll explain.
If you push the intensity too hard, you go too long,
you are going to move the old way.
Your body's gonna move the way that it moves best,
the way that always moves.
So you're no longer gonna be working
on a new movement pattern, you'll just be strengthening
the old one. So you can't go in to be working on a new movement pattern. You'll just be strengthening the old one
So you can't go in the gym and hammer
Correctional exercise like you can when you're building muscle or working on speed or building strength
The goal is to practice the movement you want to have enough intensity to challenge the body so that it creates these new movement patterns
But not so much that you can't do it properly anymore
So again like if you're practicing technique in the pool, if you don't know how to swim,
you're going to have to practice the technique in the pool real slow.
If someone's going to go as fast as you can, techniques out the window, and you'll just
be practicing shitty technique and then you'll get good as shitty technique.
So characteristic of correctional exercise, short, frequent workouts, focused on correctional
exercise. For beginners, it should be weeks long that you're
focused on just this while you stay active during your regular
day. You can do walks and cardio and that kind of stuff.
You're still going to build a little bit of muscle. You're going to be
burning a little bit of calories. So it's not like you're going to get a
shape or anything like that. But boy, you're going to set yourself up
beautifully for the other goal.
And I think too, like going through that process, like you do need to be exposed to a lot of different
correctional mobility exercises to help to refine it down
to the biggest movers for you individually.
Which ones are benefiting, you know, the most dysfunction
that you have, and how can I come back to these
and keep revisiting these?
So to Adam's point, like two to three exercises
that I've identified as, these are the ones
that I'm gonna keep, you know, in my back pocket,
continuously, just like I'm brushing my teeth,
this is something that I'm gonna kind of incorporate
as a ritual from here on out.
Yeah, and that's good.
See the thing about correctional exercise,
once you do it and you do a good job of it,
and you start to become more intermediate advanced,
then you just inject it into the other goals, whatever goal you may be doing and you probably don't need to,
unless you encounter a problem,
you don't need to devote weeks to just correctional exercises, typically something for beginners.
That's why I wanted to start here because you don't need to be here forever.
It's, you need to understand the value and the importance of it for everybody and suspend some time
in here to get those takeaways.
And then now you can move into something like your strength training, which we would consider
the foundation of all pursuits.
That's the, that's that one I made.
I tried to make a heavy case for early on when I first created the first maps program,
which was Maps and Obolic.
Now I made it a big deal because I noticed something in the gyms.
People were signing up to the gyms that I was managing and everybody wanted to change
the way they looked.
Everybody wanted to lose fat, everybody wanted to build muscle, and when they did lift
weights, which was not always, and oftentimes,
men were more likely to do this than women. But when they did lift weights, it was more
focused around sculpting and bodybuilding and nobody was focused on the low rep strength
training type of workouts that you'll see that are more characteristic of say powerlifting or strength athletes.
And this is too bad because maximal strength is the foundation physical pursuit.
That is the one that contributes to all the others.
I was killed to you this.
I was killed to you this.
This is something that because I never identified as a powerlifter.
And even being a trainer, as somebody who should know better,
for many years,
I was so focused on aesthetics
that everything kind of matched.
I was aesthetics and performance guys.
So my workouts would either be kind of performance-like
or they would be all based around bodybuilding looking.
Never would I drop below six to eight reps.
Why? I'm not gonna be a power lifter.
So why would I ever do this?
I know value for me.
Yeah, this is exactly.
So I know, if I know better, and I was a trainer,
and I was guilty of this, I know there's a fuck ton
of people listening right now that do the same thing,
that because they don't identify with the modality,
they neglect it completely.
And it's why I always say on this show
that the thing that's probably best for you
is probably the thing that you're not doing.
And that was that for me.
Oh boy, everybody every year,
I don't care what your goal is, okay?
Everybody every year should schedule in a pure strength training phase.
And it should last minimum five weeks, schedule in a pure strength training phase.
And it should last minimum five weeks, probably better off if you do it for about nine to 12 weeks.
That's just focused purely on strength,
just focused on strength.
And some of you can get away with even just a few weeks,
even just three weeks of pure strength training
as your goal, you'll get exceptional results.
I used to love getting clients,
and this is especially female clients,
who had experience working out.
So they'd hire me and be like,
look, I've been lifting weights for a long time.
I just want to take my workout to the next level.
I'd like to buy, you know, 10 sessions from me,
which 10 sessions would have lasted us about three weeks,
maybe five weeks max if I trained them twice a week.
And I would look at the routine inevitably,
every single time, they would have this kind of classic,
you know, bodybuilding type routine.
But cool, you know, we're gonna focus on for the next four weeks.
I'm gonna make you really strong,
and squatting, deadlifting, overhead pressing,
and benching, and we're gonna train like a power lifter.
And they would be like, ah, why?
I don't know, I'm not gonna be as lean, what's gonna happen?
It's, no, no, let's watch what happens.
There's this crazy fear around there.
Oh, the results used to blow them away.
Their strength, of course, their strength
would go through the roof, then their bodies
would start to change, and then here's the big one.
There's two big benefits to this.
One is, when you're focused solely on strength,
you take your focus off of your body image.
You take your focus off of how you look.
And that's a good thing to do every once in a while.
It really is.
This is why I think everybody should do it.
At least, at least a few weeks out of the year,
where you're just focused on how strong you are
and not how you look.
And what this does is it gives you permission
to eat a little bit more food.
It lets you relax a little bit on your body image.
You can focus more on your strength.
It's very empowering.
And then in terms of the results,
metabolism boosting.
Oh boy, if this is something you never spend time in,
do a few weeks in this, watch what happens to your appetite.
That's your sign, by the way.
You start focused, you start training like this.
Bounce is out your hormones.
Oh boy, the message is I would get, you know,
like I'm starving, what the hell's going on?
That's a sign that your metabolism
is really kicking into high gear.
Now, the characteristics of strength-based training,
now, strength is a skill as much as it is
your muscles contracting.
So you're gonna do fewer exercises.
So you're not gonna be doing a whole variety
of different angles and exercises.
You wanna pick the biggest bang
for your buck movements and get good at it.
Yeah, really, really, really good at them.
So that's one characteristic.
And you're picking the best exercises
so the typically compound movement.
So I'm not in the gym trying to build
maximal strength doing side laterals or cable curls.
It's going to be more like barbell squats,
barbell rows, bench presses, overhead presses,
lunges, heavy pull ups or pull downs, dead lifts,
that kind of stuff.
The reps are low, like I said,
you're gonna be training the one to five rep range.
The sets tend to be high,
because you're doing less exercises,
you're doing more sets per exercise.
So rather than doing nine sets of four different
leg exercises, I'm probably gonna do two exercises, or one.
I may only do nine sets of just squats the entire time.
And then the rest periods are much longer.
I'm trying to train for strength,
so I don't want any fatigue taking away
from my maximal strength.
So I'm gonna sit and rest as long as I need
until I feel
really, really fresh. Like I can hit really heavy weight.
Typically is two to three minutes for the average person.
Two to three minutes. And I'm glad you said that because this is an area that, you know,
how many clients, especially my female clients that gravitated towards the circuit type
training, how hard is this pattern to break for them? How many times have you had a client
saying like, okay, I'm ready. ready. I'm ready for the next set.
It's like, what do we do now?
Right.
Can I do something in between?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The idea when you're focused on strength is...
So, train strong.
You want to be picking a weight that is heavy for you,
that you want those two to three minutes rest.
Well, I like this one right after
because it still brings in that intent. So
the intent that you have to bring in towards the corrective exercise is all about how you
do everything. And this is the next follow-up because we can get into a point where we
get so focused on the feel. And we're just trying to get through the workout and the
squeeze and all these types of things
of the bodybuilding inside of training
where this still really had,
it's a skill at the end of the day.
This is a skill that we're developing
to then build upon where we can then transition
into more of the training.
And heavy strength training does a phenomenal,
as does an exceptional job of strengthening
the tendons and ligaments that connect to your muscles.
So you want your tendons and ligaments
to be really, really strong.
This is why strength training,
of course, done properly and appropriately
in the low rep range when it's done right,
is so beneficial to even people in advanced age.
I would have older clients
that once I got them to this point, of course, it was always appropriate. I would do this
kind of training with them and they would just feel so solid in their own bodies. It's
also exceptional for strengthening bone because of the the sheer force, the tension that's
on the bone with heavy weight, you're going to strengthen your bones much more effectively
than when you're doing higher rep type lifting,
which by the way also has value.
We're not making cases that what we're talking about,
these different goals have more value than other goals.
I think the case that we're making
is that all these goals have value.
And almost regardless of what your ultimate goal is,
you're gonna get value from going into the gym
and doing a few weeks to a couple months
of pure strength training.
Well, this one's extra special to me
because this is, you know, we offer,
we talk a lot about how much this business
has been serendipitous.
And one of the things that,
I don't know if this would have ever
happened had Sal not sent me over the hype video and the MAP's anabolic programming and the
conversation we had on Facebook way back when six years ago or more. And it was at that point,
I'm a like at 11 years into my personal it at about 11 years into my personal training,
11, 12 years into my personal training career.
And it literally took that long for me to have put this all together where I realized like,
wow, almost all of my clients, I needed to start in this phase because most of them came
in with body image issues.
Most of them were so attached to the scale and the way they looked, most
of them gravitated towards high intensity training, circum-based training, low-rest periods,
hit type of training.
And like, I'm talking about 90% of plus of my clients benefited from this type of training
more than anything else.
And so I was at that point in my career where I was already realizing this, like, oh my
God, this is, why isn't anybody,
why isn't enough people talking about this?
And that was when you sent that over to me,
I remember going like, oh my God,
this is the message that is not getting out to enough people
to the general population.
The strength community, I obviously understand.
Right.
If you're in that and if you're a powerlifter listening
right now, you're like, what are you talking about?
I don't know, I've known that forever.
Well, yeah, I'm not fucking talking to you.
You're like the 1%.
I'm talking about all the normal people
that I had to train on a regular basis
that strength training had got a bad rap
or was just not popular and sexy.
And so people avoided this, but what I knew was,
oh my God, it was so valuable to clients.
And you kind of went over real quick the point that I think is so important,
because over 65 to 70% of my clientele or females, most all of those clients were coming
to me to lose weight.
And one of the hardest things or hurdles that I had to overcome to them, overcome with them,
was getting them to focus on strength training, letting them eat more calories, giving them
the freedom to go ahead and increase your calories.
And even though you're coming to me because you want to lose 30 pounds of fat, I'm telling
you, don't worry if the scale goes up three or five pounds, not a big deal.
And that is really, really hard.
And I know that's really hard for a lot of people listening right now,
but I'm telling you right now
that there's a majority of people that are listening
that will greatly benefit from that mental switch
of saying, hey, I need to stop worrying about how I look.
I need to build some strength
because even if the scale goes in the opposite direction
then you want it to go.
Oh, you're setting yourself up.
Oh yeah, if you're bench press and you're squat
and you're deadlift and you're overhead press,
you're lifting five more pounds, 10 more pounds,
15 more pounds in what you were previous weeks,
you're actually heading in the right direction of your goal.
There's massive mental hurdles to overcome,
you know, in this type of training right away.
Like, you're telling me I can eat more calories,
gain a little bit of weight,
and also I should be resting in between sets,
you know, a little bit long.
When I should be just jumping and running
and burning all the shit off, right?
Like that's the one I need to be doing
in order to look a certain way
and to be able to get into that person's mind
and have them believe that they're building right now.
They're building something that is gonna be way better
for them, you know, long-term than this short-term hustle
of just burn.
Yeah, old school bodybuilders knew this.
They would do powerlifting or strength training,
pure strength training phases,
because they knew when they hit the stage
and they got lean, their body just looked different.
This type of training produces a very solid, tight looking body.
It just really does.
It gives you this kind of hard, granite look to your body.
So when you do get lean, what you're going to reveal is a different look because you've
implemented some pure strength training into your long routine.
No, like I said, I think a majority of the people
are gonna greatly benefit from this message right now.
There is a small percentage of you that are listening
that are like, oh, I already got it.
But here's the thing I'm gonna say to you,
these people are gonna greatly benefit
from the next goal and focus
because most people that I know that are
focused heavily on strength and powerlifting neglect the athletic performance right the endurance
the mobility and training this is for you PR chaser right so if you're somebody who gets the
strength side really well i'm willing to bet that you're somebody who probably neglects this totally
now everybody should spend some time during the year in well in all these these phases or all the goals that we're talking about today and this one being
training for athletic performance now training for athletic performance
This type of training makes you very
Functional so what does that mean? Well, it means when you're out walking on the street and you step off a curb on accident and you gotta catch yourself,
functional strength, functional performance,
or you're walking with you, I was a couple weekends ago,
I was watching my nephew, he's two and a half years old
and he has more energy than any kid I think I've ever met.
And I was walking around with him downtown San Mateo
and I'm holding his hand and he slips out of my hand
and he's gone. Like his favorite thing to do is to Mateo and I'm holding his hand and he slips out of my hand and he's gone.
Like his favorite thing to do is to take off
and I gotta chase him down.
So this street is right over there.
So I had to like sprint to catch him.
That's functional ability.
That's just kinda strength that I can turn on whenever I want.
You're helping your friends move
or you gotta lift your couch to vacuum underneath it
or you're moving a box or you're twisting in your car,
that's what we mean by functional performance.
Athletic type training increases the capacity of that.
So let's say you have all this strength
because you've trained in a strength phase.
Now athletic training helps translate that into
not just gym performance, which is fine.
Real world movement.
Real world athletic type performance.
Now, athletic training also tends to work a lot on mobility.
Now, mobility is a component of correctional exercise,
but the difference with mobility
is there's a little bit of an athletic component to it.
Okay, there's a little bit of an athletic component
to athletic type mobility training versus correctional,
although they are quite similar.
So mobility workouts are, you know, I'm moving through a mobility circuit.
I have good movement patterns and I'm moving through and keeping things fluid and I'm getting
my whole body to communicate.
I'm getting my arms the way that they're moving to communicate with my lower body to communicate
with my torso as I'm rotating and twisting.
So that's improving that whole functional kind of athletic. Have you guys noticed when you're when you're training somebody and you show them a movement
and then they try to mimic that movement and they don't even realize that parts of their body are doing something completely different.
No body awareness. No body awareness. Yes.
Athletic type training or workouts in the gym improve that.
So, you know, what you're doing is you're doing exercises that are,
you know, as personal trainers, we use the term multi-planar,
but really multi-directional.
Adam said that earlier and I thought that was a great way to say
because most people understand that.
Multi-directional.
So, I'm not just moving in front to back, type exercises.
I'm rotating, I'm moving laterally.
So I'm moving side to side with certain exercises.
Some exercises combine different planes
or different directions so that my body can move
and express itself fluidly through all these different
positions.
Well, back to your point, you're making with your nephew.
I mean, you were probably sitting in one plane, in the sagittal plane, and then quickly
you had to move laterally.
So that's real world shit that happens.
When we're in the gym, we focus on normally, most people, definitely all machines, okay?
All machines are designed in one plane.
You're just, and you're in your,
everything's in front of you, and that's it.
Right, and you're working a muscle, but in real life,
you've got to use multiple muscles together
in different planes and different directions.
And so, training yourself in the gym
with exercises that promote that or having a promote good movement
in all directions is something that everybody should do.
And I stress this to people that don't identify with that.
Oh, I'm not an athlete.
I'm not a basketball player, I'm not a football player.
I don't care if I can run fast or not.
I just want to look good.
That was me.
For sure, a lot of me, I was, oh, I just want to,
I used to say that to Justin all the time
when he was a trainer with me, that I'll show no good.
That's right, I'll show no good.
I just got to look fast.
That's what I used to say.
That's right, you know?
Just put a spoiler on the car.
There's no car about how much you benched.
Yeah, don't worry about the engine.
That's right.
So, and the truth of the matter is, no, I mean, everybody,
everybody needs that, and especially as we age.
I mean, so I have training today and I'm training in our Maps Power Lift program, but I still
have like off days and I start to, people are asking this, they say, they saw me doing
a movement, they're like, okay, that's not a Maps Power Lift.
I say, oh, well, there's certain things for me specifically that I'll always kind of incorporate.
And something that I'm doing tomorrow, because yesterday this happened,
is I can't remember the last time that I worked on decelerating from a jump box.
And that was a routine that would be in there when I was especially when I was playing basketball, of course. And I jumped out of my truck. I have an eight-inch lifted truck.
And I jumped out of it. And I was fine, but it was a little scary on the landing.
And what I realized right away is like, wow, like, you know, losing that skill.
Yeah, I'm soft as it used to be. Yes. It used to be way soft and comfortable. It was a little
hard when I landed and I felt it. And I went, oh wow, I just, I haven't trained this.
That's a skill in itself.
It is.
And so, you know, and that's a stupid example I know,
but you never know when those things are gonna happen.
I just, I just did it out of routine.
I've jumped out of a back of my truck
a million times before.
You wanna train outside of, you wanna train above and beyond
what you're probably gonna need to encounter
in regular everyday life.
So that what you encounter in everyday regular life
doesn't cause problems.
So you want to be better than being able to jump
out of your truck and land softly.
So that when you do jump out of your truck,
you'll land very easily.
And it's a PCK, you don't have to stay.
Go on with your day.
Yes.
Now here's some other components.
Endurance and stamina.
Endurance and stamina is an important part of just
your body moving in your health.
And athletic training does train endurance and stamina.
Strength training definitely doesn't do that.
Body building to some extent, but still not the same.
And correctional exercise doesn't train that.
But to have endurance and stamina and durability
so that you can keep moving and keep going,
because what good is your muscle and strength
if you can just last 15 seconds, right?
You know, in the real world,
you wanna have at least enough stamina
and a gas tank that you can perform
for at least a decent period of time.
It's like, I remember doing this,
I used to bulk up really, really heavy in the winter,
kind of doing that right now,
but not like I used to, right,
be, you know, two, I'd get up to 230 pounds,
I'd be all big and strong, and I didn't do any training
outside of, you know, building muscle and building strength.
And then we'd have like a family function,
we'll write like a park,
and I think we're playing like softball with the family.
So like we have like paper plates for, you know,
for the, you know, first base, the second base,
and I mean, we're not running,
farm running from first base, the second, exhausted and I mean, we're not running, far running from first base,
the second, exhausted.
You know, and I'm like,
we're turning into a mouth breather.
Yeah, I'm like, I work out in the gym all the time,
and I don't have the stamina and endurance
to just do regular, fun stuff.
So this is an important thing.
Now, can stamina endurance lack of those,
get in the way of other goals?
You better believe it.
You ever try to squat, you know,
and 12 rep, 15 rep squats are phenomenal for building muscle.
It's actually one of the best lower body muscle building exercise.
But a lot of power that you guys don't have the cardio to do.
No, stamina, they can't, so they can't,
they can't get into the rep ranges
that'll build a lot of muscle with them.
You simply don't have the stamina.
Or you want to do an hour long resistance training workout and by 45 minutes, you're
gassed.
So the last 15 minutes, you're about to go home because you're wasting your time.
Athletic training focuses on all of the physical pursuits, which include endurance and stamina,
which will contribute to all the other goals, not to mention your health.
Not to mention it's a part of your health,
just like all these goals, focusing on all of these
will improve your health, so well training for,
specifically athletic performance,
everybody should spend at least a few weeks,
if not a month or two, in just improving
their athletic performance.
Okay, so let's move into probably the most popular one,
the one that we probably don't need to make the biggest case that everybody gets excited about. The one everybody comes
in initially for. Yeah, which is body building or body sculpting, body shaping, you can kind
of kind of put those all together. Now you guys say that right away, but I do want to make the case
that yes, this is a majority of clients do come in and they care about the way they look.
There is a population of people that oppose that.
And part of the things that we talk a lot about on this,
to show is these silos and these camps of,
I'm the mobility guy or I'm the athletic performance guy
or I'm the powerlifting guy,
and those guys or girls need this too, really bad.
You know, you need to put some time and effort over.
There's a ton of benefit that you get by doing that.
Now, if you're somebody who all you've cared about
is sculpting the body and weight gain, weight loss
and building muscle and shaping your physique,
then yeah, this point is less important
and this is probably an area you need to move out of
and into the other three that we've talked about.
No, much like you admitted admitted as we're going to, you know, sort of the powerlifting side,
like, this was me. I was more drawn to the powerlifting, to the athletic training type of,
you know, that was my intent. That's what I wanted. That's what I liked. That was my comfort zone.
I did not care about presenting myself and having definition and all these things that
your average person probably does.
So I might have been in the minority, but this is a struggle for me.
Is this struggle for me to actually put time and effort into building, developing my
muscles because it will benefit coming back and taking myself out of my comfort zone, going through a different rep range,
a different focus and intent that totally transformed my body.
Yeah, so training bodybuilding, what you're trying to do
is you're trying to train to maximize what's called
muscle hypertrophy.
This is just the term, fancy term, that means
your muscle fibers are growing, you're trying to build
and shape your muscles.
Now, it's funny, I just read a study where they took high performance strength athletes,
and they were trying to see what the relationship was between muscle size and strength.
So, they took them all, they did the Dexascan or whatever, you know what they found?
That not only was muscle size strongly connected to or correlated to strength,
but it was almost one to one, meaning the guys with the biggest muscles were the ones that lifted the most weight.
And this was for strength sports. So they made a case for, and powerlifters have known this for a little while now that
they go into phases of just training for size. Just getting mass. Just getting mass because bigger muscles contract harder.
That was a lot more that goes to strength than just that.
The bigger muscles do contract harder.
Now here's the other characteristic of body building type training.
This is the one type of training where you approach training your body completely visually
like a sculptor.
Like I go to the gym and I say I want more butt, I need more shoulders, I want to develop
my back more but not my lats because my lats are good, I want more butt, I need more shoulders, I want to develop my back more, but not my lats
because my lats are good, I want more mid back.
And you know what, my triceps overpower,
my biceps, I'm gonna train my triceps a little less,
but I'm gonna develop my biceps more,
so I have a more balanced body.
You are literally sculpting your body
like a sculptor would.
Now of course there's limitations,
there's genetics and all that other stuff.
But bodybuilding training is very different
from other kinds of training.
And that's how you approach your training.
You go to the gym and rather than saying,
I'm gonna move the most amount of weight or perform best,
you're going to the gym and saying,
how do I want my body to look?
That's how I'm gonna focus my workout.
I also think that bodybuilding training
complements correctional training the most.
Oh, you know what?
This is controversial, but 100% true.
I know where you're going with this.
Yeah, I just, because, you know, and use your example
of like picking small muscle groups areas, you know,
when you understand that somebody who has like a rounded
shoulder since most people have this kind of forward shoulder
or in forward head, I know that putting emphasis on, you know, stretching my chest and my anterior delts are a paramount
to helping that. And then I also know that building my rear delts, my mid traps are going to help
benefit that. So I can do specific body building type exercises that target just that area. So when
you understand too, if you've done a good job on the correctional side and you understand
your imbalances, like in the way we get imbalances, you have overactive or underactive muscles.
Well, if it's underactive, you need to work it and you need to train it more. It's overactive.
You probably need to stretch it and possibly do soft tissue type work.
So if I understand that I have specific underactive muscles
that need more attention for correctional purposes,
I should be working on that.
And by underactive, you actually can feel
that like a certain muscle isn't contributing as much.
Right, and this is where bodybuilding,
this is where bodybuilding, this is where bodybuilding
style training shines above all other types of goals
and training. Bodybuilders or people who train and do an
effective job of training in bodybuilding can connect to
and feel individual muscles working better than anybody else.
Like a strength athlete will do a squat, but you tell them
to isolate their hamstrings or quads in their glutes and they might have a tough time. Like a strength athlete will do a squat, but you tell them to isolate their hamstrings, their quads, and their glutes,
and they might have a tough time.
You take an athlete who could throw a football
or a punch or jump real high,
and you tell them to isolate a specific muscle,
and you're speaking a different language.
When you're doing bodybuilding,
you take a bodybuilder, and you tell him,
hey, you watch somebody who,
you take a bodybuilder,
somebody who's been training bodybuilder for a while,
and you tell him, hey,
without moving your body, flex your lats, without moving your body, flex your lats.
Without moving your body, activate your hamstrings.
Hey, can you activate your rhomboids?
And they can, just like you've ever seen the guys on TV when they do their little peck
dance or whatever, they can turn on muscle groups because bodybuilding training teaches you
to connect to muscles.
And this is great for body awareness, and it's especially great for correctional exercise.
It's really obvious when you see two people
that, and we'll use Justin and I,
because I admitted,
I think about the time we all worked out at Poculski
with Justin.
Yeah, it was like a fish out of water there.
Well, I mean, Justin admits that he neglected
the bodybuilding thing for so many years.
I admit that I neglected like the power lifting
or sports performance type during my training
and you can still see that in like when we bench.
So like when we go down for a bench,
Justin has way better bench press mechanics
to get the most weight up.
He, his leg drive, his technique to move the bar
with the most amount of weight, he has perfected that
for so many years, he's far better at it than I am.
But if you watch how I lift it, I'll tell you right now,
I feel it in my chest, I guarantee more than he does.
And I get the chest development like Chris,
and if you looked, it probably just a nice,
completely leaned out, I might look like I have a bigger chest yet he can move more weight and that's a difference of somebody who is
Train the same exercise but with a different intent and both benefit you know learning and and I like that's part of why I'm really
Loving and enjoying this powerlifting program that we're going this is the first time in my life
I've ever been purely dedicated.
Now I remember when you went through phase one
of MAPs and a ball,
because MAPs and a ballick,
I would consider a really good traditional
just strength type program.
I remember when you went through phase one,
especially when you and I were competing with deadlifts,
and it was amazing to see your strength exploded.
A lot of it had to do with the fact
that you never trained that way before.
But you went from four plate deadlift
being very heavy for you,
to being able to jump your deadlift
by over a hundred pounds, like 150 pounds.
You had it in your deadlift
in a very short period of time,
and that's phenomenal.
Now, here's something else that's unique
to the bodybuilding type of training.
That no other type of training really aims for,
because bodybuilding training so
characterized by feel They also love the pump the pump, you know, you're training for strength or performance or correctional exercise
The pump is like if it happens. It's fine if it doesn't happen nobody gives a shit
When you're training for body sculpting the pump is an important part of your training,
and body bones are really, really good at getting it.
Now, the pump itself, by itself,
contributes to muscle growth.
There's a couple of different ways it may do this,
but we do know studies now are pretty clear
that show that the pump itself signals muscle growth,
but there's more to that.
The ability to get a pump in the first place
gives you a, it's a pretty good signal
that tells you that you're hydrated
and that you're connecting well to the muscle.
When you talk to somebody who has a tough time
developing a part of their body,
you ask him this following question
and the answer is always almost gonna be the same.
You know, hey, I can't develop my glutes that well.
Do you ever get a glute pump? No. Hey, I can't develop my glutes that well. Do you ever get a glute pump?
No.
Hey, I can't develop my chest very well.
Does your chest ever get a really good pump?
Almost never.
I can't develop my lats well.
Do you get a pump in your lats?
No, not really.
The pump can really signal that you're connecting
to a muscle.
And I loved when I would train clients with weak body parts.
It would take me a few weeks
to get into this point, but then we would hit that workout
and they'd be like, whoa, you know,
I could feel a pump in my lats.
I can never feel that before.
And then I knew, all right, we're building your lats now,
we're connecting to your lats.
So the pump is very important.
For people who don't know what the pump is,
just to break it down very simply,
it's more blood rushing into the muscle than rushing out.
So literally a muscle engorges with blood and it feels,
just like the word, it feels,
it feels like the word, which is a pump.
Now there's some characteristics of bodybuilding training.
It's about feeling connection.
I wanna feel the target muscle connect
and I wanna get the pump,
which is to the point I made with Justin and I.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, you're doing bench press to feel the chest and get a pump in the
Justin's bench pressing to move the weight.
That's the thing about a lot of these goals is the intention of the goal.
That is what changed.
That's the big chance I said work backwards at the beginning of this episode,
because if I go into the gym with the goal of bodybuilding versus the goal of
strength, I'm going to do a lot of the same exercise by the way.
When you're bodybuilding, it doesn't mean you're not doing,
you're not bench pressing squatting and headlifts.
Yeah, it's just the differences,
more muscle versus mechanical.
Yes, and so that, like I'm thinking mechanically always,
well for the most part,
of how I can improve each one of those little intricate
processes of my leverage or where my body set up or whatever, whereas, you know, if I'm thinking more along the intent
of a bodybuilder, I'm trying to squeeze and feel, you know, my way to get to activate
the most output of that.
Right.
I'm glad you moved to the intent part because this is so important and I'm going through
this right now.
So, it's not easy.
If you've trained a certain way for a very long time,
it's hard to shift your mentality.
Yeah.
Just like I was saying, it was hard.
It's hard for that lady who's been doing circuit training
and hit training all the time for me to get her to slow down
and rest for two to three minutes.
It's just as hard for the bodybuilder guy
who chases the pump and feeling the muscle
to now, when you power lift,
to be thinking about the movement and getting the weight up.
And there's lots of benefits of training both ways,
learning how to do that.
And so, because I was so aesthetically driven for so long,
it's a lot, I really have to set these rituals now when I get into the bench press.
Boy, is it fun though? Oh, it is. Let me tell you. For a guy who's been lifting for almost 20 years
of his life, it's very fun because it's new again. It's so funny. It's like, it's so hard for us.
Like, we want to get stuck in our own thing, even though our results of plateaued,
even though our body hurts, even though we're not getting results anymore, we're so hard-headed
about moving out
of something, moving into a new goal, it takes a mental shift,
like Adam's saying, but once you do it and you get good at it,
you have lifelong success.
And it's fun, it's really fun.
Look, I tell you what, I love training for strength.
I love training for strength.
But leaving it and focusing on athletic performance
or bodybuilding starts to get fun as well
And then I go back to strength and then it's even more fun because I go back to what my favorite thing and my body's fresh
And I can old friend it and I've expanded my my capacity with body building training
You know back to bodybuilding training. I also want to add this lots of exercises and angles that makes bodybuilding training more
Quite unique
Whereas if you're training just for strength. It's fewer exercises. Maybe more sets that makes bodybuilding training quite unique. Whereas if you're training just
for strength, it's fewer exercises, maybe more sets per exercise. Bodybuilding training,
I want to do lots of different angles. I want to work my biceps from a shortened position,
from a length in position. I want to focus on the squeeze and the stretch. Full range of
motion, extremely important with bodybuilding training. Getting the stretch and getting the squeeze depending on the exercise that you're doing
is extremely important.
But if you're looking for perpetual progress,
long-term results, long-term success,
you should look at your entire year of working out
and say to yourself,
this month I'm focusing on strength,
this month I'm doing correctional exercise,
this month it's athletic performance for two, three months bodybuilding, I'm doing correctional exercise. This month, it's athletic performance
for two, three months bodybuilding
because that's my favorite one.
And then I'm a cycle back to the other ones.
And that's how you can kind of break down.
If you, all the goals that we talked about
from correctional strength,
athletic performance, bodybuilding,
if one of those is your favorite,
no problem.
Spend most of your time there.
It's not an issue.
Take your whole year, spend three, four months there.
But throw weeks or a month of the other goals in
throughout the year and then watch what happens
to your progress.
Watch what happens to your results.
This is, if I could ever sell anything on this podcast,
it's that right there.
To the people who are consistent with the workouts is,
don't just change your workouts,
change your goals, and then watch what happens.
So blow your mind.
That's it.
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