Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1343: Low Protein & Longevity, the Benefit of Compound Lift Variations, How to Fix an Anterior Tilt & More

Episode Date: July 24, 2020

Low Protein & Longevity, the Benefit of Compound Lift Variations, How to Fix an Anterior Tilt & More This coin shortage debate is NOT over! (4:35) The lost skill of running. (10:13) The toy industry ...crumbling due to the lack of summer blockbusters. (14:43) How the gaming industry is catering to virtual parties and hangouts. (16:59) Mind Pump’s favorite childhood toys based on movies. (18:47) Micro schooling, the future of education. (22:26) Vuori, smashing the athleisure wear market. (30:52) The Di Stefano baby entering the final trimester. (34:25) Maximus taking his first steps! (39:30) Paleo Valley coming in clutch for the Mind Pump crew. (47:36) #Quah question #1 – In a full-body routine, do you recommend sticking to the standard compound lifts on each day or would it be more beneficial to have variations each day? For example, barbell back squat day 1, barbell front squat day 2, goblet squat day 3, and so on. (49:49) #Quah question #2 – You guys frequently mention consuming 0.8 to 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight and mostly from meat for its muscle-building effects and satiating factors. However, we know from data from the blue zones, longevity comes from lower protein intake and many of these people don’t resistance train. What about higher based meat protein diets for longevity in individuals who don’t train? (53:36) #Quah question #3 – For trainers who have no interest in online training, what are the best next steps to survive and thrive as we progress from lockdown and gyms begin opening again? (59:29) #Quah question #4 – How can I fix my anterior tilt? (1:05:00) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Promo code “STRONG50” at checkout** Hardgainer Webinar A bank paid people to bring in coins to help small businesses during the nationwide coin shortage — and hit its goal in just a week Hollywood blockbusters are becoming a bigger driver of toy sales Roblox brings venues for 'birthdays, hangouts and parties' to the game with Party Place Some parents turning to micro-schooling to provide education to kids during pandemic Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “Mindpump15” at checkout for 15% discount** The Myth of Optimal Protein Intake – Mind Pump Blog Why do we Need Protein? - Mind Pump Blog FIX LOWER BACK PAIN By Deactivating Your Hip Flexors! | Mind Pump TV 3 Best Secrets - How To Make Your Butt Grow (AVOID MISTAKES!) | MIND PUMP TV How To Do The Pelvic Clock Exercise – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump TV - YouTube MAPS Prime Webinar Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jessica Di Stefano (@thetraininghour)  Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pumped the World's Top, Fitness, Health, and Entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners like you. We also have an introductory portion where we talk about studies. We mention our lives. We sometimes talk about our sponsors.
Starting point is 00:00:30 So what I'm gonna do is give you a breakdown of the whole episode, but before I do, I wanna let all of you know that we have a free, hard-gainer class webinar that we're offering to everybody who has trouble building muscle. All you super fast metabolism, people who don't seem to gain muscle or strength very easily. You eat whatever you want. Nothing's happening.
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Starting point is 00:01:15 Then I talk about maybe starting to run for exercise. Don't lose, I'm telling the truth here. I'm not making it up. Don't hurt yourself, Sal. We also talk about how the toy industry may be crumbling because the movie industry's not making any new movies to sell those toys. We talk about role blocks, Fortnite, and other games
Starting point is 00:01:35 catering to virtual parties and hangouts. I talk about how micro schooling is starting to become more popular. We mentioned one of our sponsors, Vuri and how their performance jogger is getting mentioned all over the internet as being the most comfortable, best looking joggers you can buy anywhere. Truth, by the way, Vuri, because we work with them,
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Starting point is 00:02:57 look, in following a full body routine is it better to stick to the same exercises each time or alternate them with each workout. The next question, this person says, look, you guys often talk about eating a high protein diet, but studies from the blue zones, these are areas of the world where people live a long time, show people eating low protein, what's the deal? Should I eat high protein or low protein? The next question, this person is a personal trainer, wants to know how to pivot their business
Starting point is 00:03:24 due to the fitness industry being hammered so much by COVID and the final question. This person wants to fix their anterior pelvic tilt, where the butt sticks out, the core is weak, and the low back tends to have Instagram model pick. Some pain. Also, this month, maps strong is 50% off. Map strong is one of our best muscle building
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Starting point is 00:04:29 That's S-T-R-O-N-G50, no space for the discount. I'm going to beat you, Salty. Hey, wait! What do you got to say? Not much, actually. No, I do. I have a bone to pick, remember, with a guy who corrected Justin and I about the 30 or 30% overstatement. Wait a minute, you reversed your stance and now you're coming back.
Starting point is 00:04:52 This is nominated. No, it's right. Now I'm going to punk you guy. You ready? So you punk me and my DMs. I submitted now coming back. I'm going to punk you on the side. Listen to this.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Here we go. We all know about the coin short is going on, right? Coin short of juice. Yes. So you know, that's so go. We all know about the coin shortage going on, right? Coin shortage, yeah. So, you know, that's so crazy that like, Kroger is like one of the largest grocery chains in the country has literally put out a statement refusing to give back exact change. What?
Starting point is 00:05:16 So yeah, you cannot go to that grocery store and if you buy something for a legal, I don't know. Dude, I don't know how that works. I feel like you have to give people money that they don't have it There's that much of a shortage that there's wow There's not coins so here's the bone that I have to pick I give you free candy instead or so So the guy who came back and and correct adjusted what she was right? It was not 30. Yeah, I thought those you it was
Starting point is 00:05:39 17 right is I see 17% or 7% or something? It was less. He just pushed his mistake on me 17 right is I see 17% or seven percent It was last he just pushes mistake on me. Yeah All right, let's keep going you gave me the advice in the first place over a total quick so There is actually a place in Wisconsin Wisconsin Community Bank. Okay, Wisconsin State Community Bank Okay, is giving 5% for anybody who turns in their coins. Oh because of the coins. So yes That's right buddy. So you're giving up 17% of your coins to have some robot do it for you,
Starting point is 00:06:07 or you could take the time to roll them yourself and gain 5% by turning your coins in. Oh, this is... How about them, apples? That's right. Remember when I made that, buddy? Remember when I made fun of Justin for getting 50 cent pieces for mowing lawns?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah. Turns out, it was walking weener dogs You could have made why just weener dogs went out the other dogs is just that's what was there That's was that in your weener stage? It's a weener phase weener's everything. Yeah specialty. Yeah, I do I own one now He took that like whole thing about niching down your business He's a trapper keeper and we're all brought all over it Yeah, I was just drawing and I'm like it was my whole life You just see him go to door try to get done weener town weener town. It's so fun. Hi, I like to walk weeners
Starting point is 00:06:52 So anyway, you would have made five extra percent now because You could have turned in your coins to the Wisconsin Bank and got five percent. I'm excited I feel like this coin shortage is all part of the new world order agenda to remove money into the market. I thought you were talking about the market's spares. Can we get a podcast up this week without getting this? You see a Luminati?
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'm telling you. No, I don't know. It's kidding. I'm joking. That's weird though, right? To have a good time. I think it's shortage of coins. That's really not that weird.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Very, I mean, so many businesses are shut down. What you're gonna see that. What if there's a cash shortage next? Well, there will be. I mean, isn't that inevitable? Because right now, what's happening is how many people, my friends and I, we're just talking about this weekend, we're hanging out, that they're like, dude,
Starting point is 00:07:39 when was the last time you used cash to buy something? You know, you're not. We're, and if you're still making purchases right now, first of all, a large portion of the country is probably scaling back on spending money right now. I think everybody is starting to go like, okay, maybe I should be a little more conservative about my spending. So you're already spending less. Then you're not going out to places. Even if you are spending, you're spending from spending, you're spending from home. You're spending from home, there's no cash exchange whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:08:07 This is all Venmo, this is all credit cards online. So plus the printers are not printing as much because they don't have as many workers working like they normally do. That was part of the problem too, apparently. So the last time I spent one, I bought a lucha libre mask. With the, oh, you wanted to do it. Yeah, you got the black market mask. That was your last.
Starting point is 00:08:26 That was my last time I used cash. Really? Yeah, my last purchase. Yeah, I like cash. I don't know, I like cash because. 30 it is. It's all the cocaine remnants. Wow, you guys are terrible.
Starting point is 00:08:39 What? That's what I'm saying. It's true. No, I like it because it's there. You know what I mean? It's there, it's yours. It's in your hand. And well didn't they say that it didn't they originally come out and say that was like one of the the worst or one of the best ways that the best ways not the right word for that was to use it though to
Starting point is 00:08:56 for COVID to transfer. Oh, Transparency. Yeah, it's because it's changing cash is how dirty cash is. Yeah, what's back when they thought it was all transferable from services? Well, here's the other thing too. Cash is how a lot of people avoid paying taxes. You know, they do jobs for cash and then they end up not reporting it or whatever. You eliminate all cash. Essentially, the government is thinking that they're going to automatically have way,
Starting point is 00:09:23 you know, collect more taxes because now, you know, they can trace your, whatever you're doing for cash, they can now trace easier. Enter Bitcoin, huh? Yeah, that's the answer to some of that, in that regard or whatever. I still believe we're going that way. I think so. Yeah, I don't spend a lot of time messing, watching it anymore, but I don't know if it's up.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I bought, remember when you and I bought some? Yeah, I think I'm just worried about everything being electronic. You know, there's still that potential that, you know, as far as like my conspiracy brain goes where they can mess with the internet and they can mess with, you know, the EMPs could knock out all power and then what?
Starting point is 00:09:59 What are we gonna exchange is we're going back to the barter system with goats. Yeah. That one just so much. Yeah. He's the first thing that comes to his mind. Can you just start Yeah, that's a lot just so much. Yeah, he's right. He's the first thing that comes to his mind. Can you just start a goat farm, dude? Just goats, you know, that used to be the currency.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Mine comes to best in a goat farm. Dude, I need to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I might start doing something really crazy. Hmm, soon. Hmm. I might start running a little bit. Just like, like, cardio stuff. Like, like running running.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You're just trying to get laughs at the podcast. No, no, no, no. Is this because of all the montages you've been watching? No, oh, you mean the Rocky montages? Yeah, those are so good. No, here's why, okay. I caught myself doing this the other day. I don't remember when I had to like move fast for, but I had to kind of move fast to get somewhere.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And it was short distance. It was like from here to 10 feet. Yeah, I was like, no, maybe a 20, 30 feet, right? And you know what I did? I did the old man jog. Do you know what I'm talking about? You ever seen the old man jog? The old man jog, the legs don't really move faster,
Starting point is 00:10:53 but the upper body does. The upper body twists. Yeah. The legs are just, dude, I get like a video game. Yeah, I did that when my arms were doing this and my legs were still walking. And I'm like, what is happening? You're not moving fast.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I'm gonna run or I'll forget how to run. This is terrible. It's a lost skill. You know what I'm saying? I always think about that. I don't wanna lose like my ability to jump and like, you know, cut and turn and do what like, dude, if I don't have my athleticism, who am I?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Well, you do represent that for us. That's why I feel like I can slack off on it a little bit. So Justin can move. Yeah, you don't ever lose that, cause they were screwed. I feel like as long as together, we can accomplish whatever fitness task that's true out there. Oh, I don't remember when somebody to show the example.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I remember while I was running, I had to pee hell a bad, like really, really bad. And then I made it to bathroom and pee, which by the way, I don't know of a more satisfying, is there anything more satisfying than peeing after you've been holding a pee for way too long? I mean, that noise is immediately like a, you can't help but do that.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, it's incredible. That's why I did the fake run. That was because I was gonna pee myself on accident. So are you like treadmill running or are you gonna run the pavement like old school? I don't know how I'm gonna start this. I feel like I'm gonna start by running like five steps every day and then I'll increase it to 10 steps.
Starting point is 00:12:14 No, I don't know. Honestly, what I think I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get myself some running shoes and then maybe do like a mile here and there, which I haven't run a mile in a long time. No idea what that's gonna be like. Really? Is this another excuse to get you new balances?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah. They're comfortable. I see what you're doing. No, I try and do that at least every month or two months. I will. Yeah, you said that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get on the treadmill and just make sure that I can, right?
Starting point is 00:12:39 I mean, that's kind of what you do a mile. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of, something's longer, it just depends on the mood. I feel like after the, once I hit like a 10 minute mark of running, it's actually really, it's almost therapeutic, I enjoy, you get that runner's eye. It takes about 10 minutes for me,
Starting point is 00:12:53 the first like sweat that you break, and then I'll do it, you know, I'll just, it's just not, it's just something I do intermittently. It's not something I do consistently every single day, and it is for the exact reason what you just said. I don't wanna lose that. I don't want to lose that. I don't want if and when I need to take off for a sprint
Starting point is 00:13:09 or I just don't see any other time where it could be possible that I would need to run further than a mile. So I'm just gonna run a mile efficiently and get there pretty quick and outrun my child. I feel pretty good. Outrun. How's it you're catching up?
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah, yeah. Oh dude, my dear. Little kids will Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude. Not here. Little kids will do that. My nephew. We're just going to watch my nephew and he's a little shit, man. Like, he'll look at you. And the second he knows he's far enough to take off, he goes.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So we were in San Mateo downtown and we were hanging out with him. This was before COVID or whatever. And you know, I'm holding his hand. He's a little, again, he's a smart little kid. So he's holding my hand,. This was before COVID or whatever. And you know, I'm holding his hand. He's a little, again, he's a smart little kid. So he's holding my hand, being a good little kid or whatever. And then he like tries to pull his hand away and I said, no, I gotta hold your hand because the street's over there and there's cars.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And he goes, I know run, I know run. So I said, okay, I'm gonna give you a chance to walk or whatever. So he walks in front of me and he's walking and he's looking to the left and to the right. And then I see him kind of peek back and I have a feeling like this is going to bolt does. Yeah. bolts. No. Yes. Boom. And then I chase him. And what do you think he's doing the whole time? Laughing. And he thinks it's the funnest thing in the world. And he's heading right for the insects. What? What is that? Yeah. Like, oh, that
Starting point is 00:14:22 was the one time. Like my like my youngest like drove me completely insane and it was in a parking lot like that. I'm like, stay right here, you know, like please, you know, stay close to dad and then just took off. Ha ha ha ha. And then a car pulls out like right in front of them and barely like gets, oh my God, like, yeah, my heart stopped. I've got an interesting conversation around kids and money
Starting point is 00:14:44 since we just talk about those two things right now. Check this out. You know, we talk about all these unintended consequences from the shutdown and what's happening. And this is one that like didn't it wasn't even on my radar that I would have thought of and let's see if you guys can piece this guy. So think of some of the things that are going to affect major businesses, movies being shut down. So movies are shut down. All summer, it's already been said, summer's canceled and not happening, which is sucked, which hurts the movie industry.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That's obvious, right? So if you're a movie theater, you know, or produce movies, whatever, that's obvious going to fit them. But with children, and that's that industry, what do you think it's going to to cripple? It will so hold on a second because there's no movies. That's right. And in regard to kids, what's that going to cripple? I don't know popcorn toys. Oh, so mentioned that is listen to this. That's right. The toy industry figures that movies, summer blockbuster movies are responsible
Starting point is 00:15:45 for 21% of their revenue, which adds up to over $20 billion. And there's no movies that drive the toys. And here's, it gets worse. Man. All that stuff was planned. So all the toy companies have made all these toys for all the blockbuster movies
Starting point is 00:16:00 that were supposed to come out. And they're just sitting in the way out on the show. They're just sitting in the warehouses. So now, what do you do? Do you, kids aren't gonna buy toys of movies they've never seen before? blockbuster movies that were supposed to come out. And they're just sitting in the way on the shelf. They're just sitting in warehouses. So now, what do you do? Kids aren't going to buy toys of movies they've never seen before. So there's all these toys that have been made
Starting point is 00:16:11 to sell to kids from these blockbuster movies that were supposed to come out in summer that are like sitting in warehouses or about to get shipped out to places like Target. And now Target has the, they have to decide, do we want to receive these, put them on our shelves or try and store these, and sell them what next year when they potentially
Starting point is 00:16:28 release this movie? Wow, I didn't even think of that. I didn't either did I. It's totally true, because movies drive a ton of those things. So, 21% they attribute to a quarter of toy sales is because of movies. Yeah. And with no movies, talk about.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Wow, that makes a perfect sense. That's interesting. I would wonder then if there's a big push by these video game companies to, you know, get into the merchandising part of that to kind of make up for that shelf space. Well, you'll talk about video games. Here's a pivot that all video games are starting to do right now.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Company called Roblox, Fort Nights, some of their chasing a game. I forget what the name of the app was, they're all trying to figure out, okay, gaming is blowing up, is going like crazy right now, because everybody's at home. Now, how do we hear our audience
Starting point is 00:17:13 and find other ways to get more attention with their already getting a ton of? So now they're all pivoting into like these virtual parties and virtual birthday parties with built-in within the game. So the kids can all get together like community and hang out and purchase things in app and do things together. And so they're all catering to the... Well that's interesting. I've seen because my kids will play, you know, like in row blocks, they have like areas where you can actually like have your own food,
Starting point is 00:17:46 a cafeteria where people come in, you're fired with all that stuff. Oh yeah. So I'm not familiar with that. I'm like, I'm monitoring it constantly to see who's like hitting them up because they could talk to each other. I don't like that. Again, here's the other part of it is all the catfish like pito dudes out there that are in, you know, that's like, you know, a draw, is where all the kids are, is that a real thing in that? Is that true? Oh yeah, I'm sure, they have messages on everything. They pose as like another seven year old.
Starting point is 00:18:13 No, is that you guys just saying that because you've heard that or if you guys experience that with your own kids? Oh, I've never, I haven't seen it with my kids, but no, my kids, tell me, like, they look out for it, like I have them, like, we talk a lot. So they're aware my kids, tell me, they look out for it. I have them, we talk a lot. So they're aware of like, they're aware of what that is. They don't know who it is, even if they,
Starting point is 00:18:31 because they approach them really nice, and trying to do all this extra stuff for them, give them all these things. And then, oh, so I'm like, who is, I don't know who this is, okay, that well, you gotta get out, and get in a different area, and like drop this guy. Yeah, you guys remember the first, like,
Starting point is 00:18:48 toy that you bought that was based off of, like, a movie or TV show that you loved? You guys remember that? GI Joe Star Wars. Oh, you guys are, oh yeah, of course you had Star Wars. Did you have a whole bunch of them? Oh my God, I had like, action figures. I still have them.
Starting point is 00:19:00 You see that picture, I have my column, I FaceTime and I catch and play it. You only uses them during sex time. You do it, bro. Well, the life isn't home right now, playing with my Star Wars toys. You see that picture I call my face time on my kitchen play Is in home right now playing with my star wars to you're my sister is this weird You have the millennium falcon and all that yeah, do you have the millennium falcon and at at said like I'm thus worth money I mean I with them though. You know, like I didn't like have them all aggressively too. Dude, but it's like who buys toys and this keeps them in the packaging and puts them on the shelf and is like,
Starting point is 00:19:33 like it's like some kind of weird like trophy. Did I ever tell you I had a friend in high school that used to collect all the McDonald's toys and he kept them in the plastic and he had this massive back. Those are actually worth it. I know. I guarantee you have a McDonald's Beckett that has all the toys and how much so,
Starting point is 00:19:53 and I would love to know where the sheen. So many hamburgers. Yeah, this is like my freshman year in high school, my friend, and I have no idea where he is at in life now and what he's doing. I wish I knew, because I'm just curious about that stash because he had probably thousands in all in the plastic. I had a friend who had a he-man and castle, gray skull,
Starting point is 00:20:13 all in the box untouched and he sold it for a thousand or two thousand dollars. Really? Yeah. Wow. But again, I'm like Justin, what kind of a weird kid are you if you get a toy and you leave it in the box and That's okay. I feel this way about the community that I'm very familiar with is the sneaker head community
Starting point is 00:20:31 And there's there's a there's a lot of money to be made in these sneakers But I don't I didn't that's how I justify spending my money on them is because they're valued like that But that's not what makes like I don't buy my sneakers and just like put them away. So they hold value and then there's, but there's kids that make big money in that. In fact, I was reading article the other day about some of the ways that kids are making. There's this like 15 year old kid
Starting point is 00:20:54 that buys like 50 Paris sneakers every month and then he holds them for a little while then flips them and sells them and makes a ton of money doing that. Oh, reason why I buy my sneakers is because I want to wear them. So I wear mine. And I think it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's like, you buy those things because you like them, you want to play with them. They're also functional. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. Sneakers are very functional, so I want to wear them. But I know, but you know, in the sneaker world,
Starting point is 00:21:15 they still hold value. I mean, I can still, so I can't. You can't still wear some deals with shoes. Yeah. That's a big deal. If you take good care of them and you keep them in, you know, reasonable condition. And if you have a collection like I do,
Starting point is 00:21:27 where you rotate through them. I feel like I feel like I, it's kind of weird to wear someone else's shirt. Yeah, I'm like, I'm thinking. There's a foot's been in there. Well, I'm thinking about the weirdos with the fetishes, you know, that like smell, like, oh yeah, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I mean, what's Adam? What do you hate? What'd you sell? What do you give a shit out of? I don't care if you hug my shoe. You know what I'm saying? Do whatever you want with my shoes. Like, they're not mine anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:44 They're not mine anymore. Not, they're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore want with my shoes. Like, they're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore.
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Starting point is 00:21:59 They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not mine anymore. They're not beat the crap out of everybody. G.I. Joe beat the crap out of my- Yeah, the best pecs. He was, you know what they did. I mean, if you look at it, literally,
Starting point is 00:22:08 they took a pro bodybuilder and made it into a figurine. Yeah. And you wonder why I had body image. It's like that in coastsland. This is my toy of another kid. I mean, I don't want to be a little. Yeah. He's so powerful.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Do you remember his punching action? He just twisted his body and then he just untwisted. You just, you know, just like this. Yeah, remember that. Speaking of kids, you know, it's exploding right now. They call it micro schooling. You just twist his body and then he just untwist Speaking of kids, you know it's exploding right now. They call it micro schooling So micro schooling is where parents get together Like four or five parents of kids who are close or whatever yeah, and then one of the parents will host the kids and Do education the future at home and then they'll kind of rotate from home to home or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:47 A lot of parents are doing it. So we're actually like structuring that in our community, right? Same. So I have a call with my best friend later on today who's the principal of a high school. And this is our exact conversation and topic because he wants to start a podcast
Starting point is 00:23:01 and he wants to center it around helping those types of parents. Oh, that's brilliant. Blowing up. I know. That is definitely going to be the way people are going to handle this. So I have, I used to train clients
Starting point is 00:23:12 who were huge in the homeschool community. Their son had a terrible experience in school. They took them out and they were retired, very successful tech executives. And they worked for a company that went public and they were able to retire. So they had all this time to dedicate to really studying and understanding education and homeschooling and all that stuff. And they told me they said, you know, it's funny. They said, the minute parents realize it's not as hard and crazy as you think and that there's all the
Starting point is 00:23:41 resources, all these crazy resources. The minute they start to realize that and they get over that learning curve, they're never going to go back. Yep. So they're saying basically this spike is probably going to stay permanent or close to permanent because once people get the hang of it and get over that, that, that, that, again, that learning curve of the schedule and what does it look like? What are the resources and what are the state requirements for testing?
Starting point is 00:24:03 Mm-hmm. Once you get over that, they're like, yeah, no one's gonna, they're not gonna go back. Yeah. They're gonna see how much more I'm better. Yeah, I'm just waiting for them to figure out the whole sports and little league and all that kind of stuff. And like how we're gonna handle that with the kids and maybe like no fans or anything,
Starting point is 00:24:18 but they just have these outdoor events where they can still play. Cause I mean sports is such a vital part of growing up and developing as a kid. And that's also massive business, once you get to the collegiate level, it's massive, massive. So just because of that, that's being figured out. There's no way, of course.
Starting point is 00:24:37 My buddy was talking about that too, and I'm like, I don't even think about that or worry about that because it is such a big... There's so much money in that. That right now, I guarantee 80% of like college's focus is around that right now. Because they know that is the biggest money driver of everything. And I think that's what we're going to see. I think like in this, we had this debate back and forth.
Starting point is 00:24:57 My buddy who's the principal and I or the weekend of like, because I've been saying for, you know, a couple of years now that I think education is going to be completely shook up. And you know, he would complete, he would debate that with me all the time. And now he's kinda like, okay, well, I didn't see this COVID thing happening, and this is really shaking everything up. He's all, but I still don't think it's gonna completely get shaken up because of sports.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And I was like, I disagree again. I think that it's just gonna evolve and be different. We already have examples of non-school related sports. There's rec leagues. I've played in rec leagues my entire life growing up and it's community driven and organized. And so you're in lot style. Yeah, you're just going to have that for groups of people and towns and they'll be able to compete against other.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I don't think it's going to be that hard to organize that for the only reason why you don't see it that popular right now is the home school community is not large enough. But if you, if you guys all believe that the home's large percentage go that way, then it's going to be. Well, the home school community, I guarantee it. Oftentimes does put their kids in extracurricular sports and activities. So it is very big with them. And they'll send it up for leagues, for clubs or whatever, for activity or for sport, because it is, it's very important.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's not just important for physical health. It's good for mental health. Gene, yeah, learn what it's others. I think it's gonna be better, right? I mean, I think we all agree, we're all kind of lean towards free market and that's what this is doing, right? This is forcing everybody into that.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And I have faith in humanity and the ability for us to come together, organize, and figure things out better than a lot of government. It's definitely still overlining, I think. I appreciate the fact that it's disrupting this whole thing that I think needed to be disrupted. It needs to be looked at and done differently. And I think that this is an opportunity we can take now to really make a massive change.
Starting point is 00:26:48 There's pressure. The pressures on education before to change were mainly in the higher education because the cost of college had far exceeded inflation, just exploded. And it started to get to the point where people were questioning, was it worth a degree? Is it worth a degree to go into debt? You know, tens of thousands or a hundred thousand dollars? Well, I guess it depends on the degree and people are doing that, people were doing that for a while. So there was that pressure, there was that, that strong signal. But now we have the very strong signal of COVID where it's not an option. It's not an option to send your kid to school in the traditional sense. So of course, people
Starting point is 00:27:32 are going to start looking at the things. And I also, I think the same thing, I think once people start to see what that looks like, and now that there's a big market demand for it, you're going to start to see some innovation, some innovation, some market solutions. And here's the truth, especially in a modern economy. You're largely valued for your specialized skill, not for your broad general skills. You know what I'm saying? If you do a job, it's because you're really good
Starting point is 00:28:00 at one or two things, not because you also understand algebra and history and English or all those other things. So that's specialized. Or mental horticulture. Yeah, whatever. That specialized knowledge and information is just, it's more valuable. And I predict that the market's going to play more to that.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You know, we're, okay, here's your state standards. Got to pass the test. But now let's get you to specialize in the stuff that you enjoy doing. And I think that's a great thing. So that's all true. Do you think that, I mean, teachers are in a very similar situation as personal trainers are right now?
Starting point is 00:28:36 I think teachers are always, there's always gonna be a demand for teachers, but I think the way that they're gonna deliver their... Right, so just like we were giving out the notice on trainers like a year ago, even before COVID hit, that the future of training is, you need to build this kind of virtual model to support your business because it's moving in that direction.
Starting point is 00:28:54 The same thing I think goes for teachers, and even if you're 10 year and your job is set and you think and you feel confident that if that space is really going to evolve and change, I'd be working on that right now. Right, I think this is the time to be thinking about, it was just really cool to see my best friend and his brain working that way and seeing that,
Starting point is 00:29:12 oh, you know what, this moving into this podcast space, trying to provide value for these educators that are now going to be educating at home or in like microgroups, like you're saying, I think it's gonna have tremendous value if he can become a voice in that space and because he's an authority already in that position with lots of experience,
Starting point is 00:29:31 man, I think that's a brilliant thing. I think it's an opportunity. He's a huge opportunity. Yeah, if I'm a teacher right now, I'm gonna be looking at ways I could deliver, good information to kids or to my students, via internet, technology, or to to kids or to my students via internet, technology. I'm already looking at it.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Right, assist the parents that are actually going to be doing your job in a sense at home and no one knows better than you, you've been doing it for possibly years or decades. And so you have a great perspective to help evolve them instead of fighting it and resisting it and hoping it doesn't go that direction, pivot and go, okay, I'm going to try and help all those that go that direction and build yourself a potential business. If it does go this way, what'll end up happening, like anything else, it's going to get very competitive.
Starting point is 00:30:19 You're going to have a much smaller role in government obviously because public because public school, you're just gonna have to drastically change, or they're gonna change the way they deliver education. So there may be a gap there between no public school and people going to the market for solutions. It's gonna get very competitive, meaning the good teachers are gonna get very successful. And then the ones that aren't so good are probably going to have a tough time making a living.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's a hard transition because it's going to be so damn competitive. Speaking of competitive, you guys all know that the Elijah-Earth-Leggerware market is huge, right? It's a huge market. It's actually growing right now because people are home. Working from home. They like to wear comfortable clothing that kind of looks good.
Starting point is 00:31:06 It's not business attire anymore. Right. So, so, for the audiences, no, viewers, the company we work with, they make Athletes Aware really, really nice stuff. Some of the best stuff that we found anywhere. Anyway, the performance jogger, which is one of our favorites. We're not wearing. Performance jogger is amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:20 It's got 4,000 reviews on their site. And the last I checked over a dozen blogs written specifically about their performance jogger. Their ranked as the most comfortable like a phlegia wear pants anywhere. And they compare them to all the big brands. It's crazy. Like Lulu and all that stuff. Well, I think of them as the originally,
Starting point is 00:31:45 the male version of Lulu. And just like the opposite, like Lulu did, like Lulu established himself in the yoga female community really well. They grew that brand, they've now branched into it. They have been doing men's wear for a while and have made them self-adnees in that market. But then you had like Viori who saw that they catered first
Starting point is 00:32:05 to the women, they kind of catered first to the men, athletes are aware, and then have branched in the women and have a line that's amazing for women and for men. And they also did it the opposite way of, you know, instead of going brick and mortar first and then going digital, they were all direct to consumer first and scaled rapidly because they did not have a huge overhead.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And now you see them popping up all over the place, which is really cool. I'd be interested to see how to, it's been filtering in, you know, to these, like more formal type settings too, because I wear the meta pants, which the meta pants are more like slacks, but they're like super stretchy. It's almost something you'd wear probably on the golf course, but they're like super stretchy. It's almost something you'd wear probably on the golf course, but they're so comfortable and everything, but you could actually pass it off. I could go to an wedding and wear those, like I feel.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Oh, that's you. I'm an ad-er. I'm not the most classy guy in the world. No, that was, I mean, one of the reasons that, Lulu blew up was because they, that was what ended up happening.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You could wear a workout clothes anywhere. Yeah, and that's what has happened. And that's where they created a space. Athletes you're wear wasn't even a decade ago. It's now a thing. No, before that sweats were like, you wore sweats at home because you nobody saw you. You would tease, that'd be a joke right now.
Starting point is 00:33:20 If you showed up, please. Old school sweats. Yeah, you showed up to work or you only weren't there for that or at home or at the strip club yeah somebody with whoa dude I'm just saying whoa guy is that true I think all the dudes are like sweat like like starters going there hurt that
Starting point is 00:33:36 it's whatever you guys they can look somewhat dressed up a little bit wow you found maybe I've seen a market dude I wonder we should call Viori and let him know if they're targeting that, right? That's the guys who go to... That's a cheer. Guys who go to strip-
Starting point is 00:33:50 Like guys who go to strip- You're gonna see pop-up tents now at your local strip- Hey, do you guys remember the old, when we were like, you know, kids, right, working out and the workout clothes that you had back then were essentially like, there were sweats, like the ones you see like, Sylvester Stallone wearing a rocket,
Starting point is 00:34:04 the gray sweats, and the gray hoodie or whatever. Do you remember how terrible those things were to work out in? Oh yeah. You'd sweat in them and that was it. They were swamp thing. Yeah, they were disgusting, dude. You had to wash them immediately or they would smell forever.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah. The worst things in the world. Most guys would, because they're disgusting. Dude, so time flies, man. I got, we are moving into the last trimester. Oh, I saw the picture of Jessica. She looks great She's really she's doing a really good job. How have you she had an overall good experience? You know, you say I feel like it's a you know 50 50 with with a pregnancy for women like some women just say It's the most and some just aren't really honest about it either. They wanna like portray this like,
Starting point is 00:34:48 oh, it's so great, never the end, I love it. Yeah, meanwhile the husband's being tortured at home. Yeah, you're the real facts. And look it over, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? I'm throwing up and oh! Rip my face off like two hours ago. So uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:35:01 You know what though, I'll say this. So she would tell you right now that she's loves it and is sad that it's gonna be ending soon. That being said, the first trimester was challenging. The first trimester, she was super exhausted, nauseous all the time, all the time. And the poor girl was stuck on the couch half the time because she would move and get super exhausted
Starting point is 00:35:26 or wanna throw up. Her favorite foods, all of a sudden, became foods that were repulsive. Like Jessica loves meat. She could totally go on a court of or die and be happy. She loves steak, she loves ground beef, she likes it cooked rare. It's her favorite food ever.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Just the smell, or even just saying the word meat to her in the first trimester, made her want a gag. So that was a bit of a challenge. But then she went into her second trimester, way more energy, feeling good. She looks really, really healthy. Has she been able to reintroduce all those foods that she's eating? Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Even then, she was figuring out ways to eat those things because of the valuable nutrients that you want to get with them. And evolutionarily, it makes sense, right? I think, you know, your body probably is so hypersensitive to prevent foodborne illness. And so, you know, processed foods or white, you know, like bread and crackers,
Starting point is 00:36:18 your brain probably sees like, oh, this is very, very safe meat, you know, might have something in it. And so it's like, yeah. better safe than sorry type of deal. But it seems like they're cravings too. A lot of times our foods that like they haven't been introducing in their diet for a while. Like that's not what was with Courtney.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah, Katrina was that. Katrina, I told you guys that she went bananas with oranges. Yeah, orange slices. Like that was like her thing. I remember she was, I mean, she, I mean, she, I mean, first of all, I never saw her eat orange slices when we were together the previous nine years. And then all of a sudden, it became this thing where she was like crushing four apples with
Starting point is 00:36:52 watermelon. It's crazy. Yeah, well, Jessica's tomatoes. Here's a funny thing she hated tomatoes before, never ate them on up by themselves. Now she's making, you know, two or three Caprese salads every single day. Yeah, with the, yeah, and I pointed that out to her. She's like, that's not true. I'm like, when's the last time you had it too much? Like, oh yeah, this is kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:37:10 But yeah, now we're heading into the third trimester, which means I got three months, three more months, and then I have a little baby. Dad again. This is a different experience for me than my other kids, because my kids are older. I've had enough time. Now that my youngest is 10.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And so I realized looking back how un-present I was, how much I was moving in Hustlin, trying to make money and whatever, and it just wasn't as present as I could have been. So this time I'm really gonna pay attention. So you think it's more excitement, less like fear the unknown, obviously, because you've been through it.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Wait, wait, wait, more excitement and calm. I'm very calm about the whole thing. Has this also given you more appreciation for your ex? Oh, you mean for the, what's your way? Like, here's the thing, like, you have two incredible kids. I mean, you guys are pretty close to leave it to beaver, family, pretty close. I mean, aside from the, the obviously you guys are divorced,
Starting point is 00:38:05 the children have turned out incredible. Well, manored, very intelligent, great, great kids, healthy, all the above, right? And you admit that you feel like you were nowhere near as present in their lives. And she really took over and now seeing how well they've been raised. I mean, that's got to give you a different outlook on her and appreciation. So I was involved in the sense that, I love them, I hug them, I kiss them, they knew their dad loved them. I was there for weekends we would spend together,
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'd have dinner with them often. But what I mean by present is, it's more of a state of mind, like you're ever somewhere and you're just kind of thinking off. But when I would watch my kids sometimes, sometimes they would be playing and I would be reading or thinking or just not present for- Worried about getting clients.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Or something, right? You know, or, you know, I'm on, you know, social media trying to figure something out. You know, this time I'm gonna be present, present, because some of the stuff you think is like, not that big of a deal, like, oh my kids playing with his toys, like he does that every single day. Then when they grow up and you think about it, you're like, man, I wish I really watched
Starting point is 00:39:11 and paid attention and cherished that moment. So, I think a lot of that is, you know, less of probably that you made any sort of a mistake, because I don't think you made any mistakes with them. And more just being older and wiser. Of course. Because I haven't had any kids, and I'm very cognizant of that, like being around for moments. You are.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And I make a point to be very, very present with him and I don't ever do anything distracting when it's my time with him. I'm not, my phone goes in a different room. I don't like watching TV like. Way more wise. No, that's 100%. Think about when you were in your 20s if like way more wise. No, that's a hundred percent. Think about when you were in your 20s if you had a kid. No, yeah, my mind would be you would have
Starting point is 00:39:48 been good dad. You might have been a bad father. I would have figured things out like you probably. Yeah, I would have figured things out. I think I would have still raised a pretty good kid, but there's just there's just another level of appreciation that I have now for this phase that he's going through and being a part of that. I told you guys off, he walked, right? So he took his first steps and it was such a crazy moment because the conversation that we had right before. So this trip up here was unplanned on a whim. We all just said, let's go up to the top house. Let's just go record. And so we just, we all uprooted and left this week. And so I like came home and told Katrina,
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'm like, okay, we're gonna go up and work for a few days at the house and she goes, oh, okay, you know, do we have this cover that, yeah, everything's all fine. And she made this like comment because he's been really, he's getting close to like walking. And she's like, oh, what happens if you miss like his walking?
Starting point is 00:40:41 And it's like, my son would never do that to me. That's it. My son, I've been so present in a part of everything and helped get him to crawl. And I'm going to help you, I'll come and, you know, I like to be that person that is kind of constantly challenging. Katrina is the very loving, nurturing, supporting him all the time. I'm the one that's kind of manufacturing adversity already at a young age and trying to challenge him to take another step or crawl a little bit further or do things on his own and let him struggle a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And so I was like, I feel confident that I'm not going to miss that. And so I was spending time with him before we took off and practicing walking and trying to challenge him. And she was down in the basement or the garage area and doing laundry. And so him and I came down stairs with her and I sat at the bottom of stairs and we had these five gallon jugs. And, you know, he's now, he stands up, sits down on his own
Starting point is 00:41:33 and he's like right there, right? Like, there's moments where he'll be get distracted with something in his hands and not realize he's not holding himself up. He's not scared because he's not real. Yeah, exactly. He's not scared. He's like standing there doing stuff and then he'll squat down and then he'll pop right back up
Starting point is 00:41:48 and I'm like, he can walk. I know he can walk. He's just got to get there. And so he's doing this. And on the other side of the garage is his new Range Rover remote control car thing, right? And he sees it from the five gallon tank and, you know, Katrina's doing laundry and she's watching him and I'm sitting on the stairs and I'm just watching
Starting point is 00:42:09 him. We're paying attention to him. And because he's so caught up in the moment, he just takes off and walks across the garage over over the thing. And it was like, both of us are like staring at each other because we literally 15 minutes before that had this conversation. Not just screaming. Ice creamed out of excitement and scared it the shit out of him. You're not gonna walk for another six months. No, it's like, oh, you're so good. Definitely not walking anymore where I've gone for this week. So, but I was so ecstatic that I did a yelled at my poor dude.
Starting point is 00:42:40 How many steps he gave you? Oh, no, it was like a, you're in all the way. Yeah, he walked across the garage. He took eight to 10 steps. It was not like the, he's already been doing these little, like I was doing it the last night. I was with, or the night before, I was with him during bath time.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And so part of our routine is, you know, Katrina will be kind of getting dinner ready for us, for, for a while, I'm getting playing with him right before bath time and I get his bath ready. And a lot of times I'll let him kind of, you know, play around in the bathroom and open drawers and do things. And he was, he was standing opening a drawer and he turns around in the bath as to his left and he just took like two steps, the bath and he grabs him. So he's been doing that already for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But not like a walk, not a walk. This was like a full on standing up, let go of the five gallon thing, saw his toy, realized it, and just made effort. And he had no idea. Yeah, you guys screamed. Yeah, he's probably like, huh? Yeah, it was exactly that. He looked back at me, he started crying,
Starting point is 00:43:37 he's like, yeah, but what a cool moment. And so random right after he said that. Yeah, you know, you're speaking of cool moments, you know, through this process of Jessica being pregnant. This is something I realized too with my other kids, but I really, really am grasping it now. As a mother, you know, moms have this unique thing that they get to experience,
Starting point is 00:43:56 which is they obviously have the baby inside of them, and they bond with the baby way before dads do, or in a very different way. She's every day walking around, caring the baby way before dads do or in a very different way. She's every day walking around carrying the baby and feeling the baby move all the time. If there's a loud noise, the baby jumps in her belly and she can feel it. And so she talks to the baby and whatever. To me, even though I have kids and I know what to expect, I mean, I have a bond, but it's so much more abstract, you know, so I'm watching her develop this bond with the baby,
Starting point is 00:44:28 and there's a part of me that's envious. Like, oh man, I wish I could experience some of that. And I know what happened to me with my kids, soon as they were born, hit me like a truck. I remember it was like, they were born, and then it just, everything hit me all at once. I'm like, holy shit, there's this kid, it's mine. Wow, this is it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But, you know, take experience that, pros, as difficult as it is, it's an amazing thing to watch. And it's something that we'll never spare. You bring up as something to that, I thought, is interesting. So I remember, I totally recall that, right? And it was just not that long ago for me. And I remember after he was born, something
Starting point is 00:45:06 that I felt very appreciative of was Katrina really allowed me to take him a lot. Because sometimes moms can get really clingy right out the gates because they have built that bond. Also, a lot of times dads get scared. Sometimes dads are scared. Right. Dads are scared. The as soon as they grab him, he cries and they can't get him to calm down and sue them. And then as soon as mom gets ahold of him, he sews right away. So kind of dads a lot of times will be like, okay, let her handle this.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I'll figure this out later, type of deal, where I kind of just like asserted myself right away and took him a lot and was able to soothe him and now make up for the nine months that she had with him. I kind of got to do in the first three to four months a lot with him. And I really feel that there's a difference with my relationship with him now that he's older because I did that. The bonding that happens with the skin on skin contact and then then regulating their breathing with your breathing in those initial weeks is actually extremely...
Starting point is 00:46:08 It's like an imprint. Very, very important. You know, you talk to midwives, and they take the baby out, and they don't do anything, furtely put the baby right on you. As long as everything's okay, right? Baby goes right on you, skin to skin,
Starting point is 00:46:20 and they say, for the first week, they tell the mom, you're not gonna do much, but this. Baby's feeding and laying on you for the first week, they tell the mom, you're not gonna do much but this. Babies feeding and laying on you and skin to skin, which by the way, I just learned this the other day, if they recommend that, and this comes from midwives, and midwives are experts at delivering babies. They're the people you wanna talk to. They said that when a mom first has a baby
Starting point is 00:46:42 to not get up and walk around much at all for the first week or two because if they do, they just obviously went through a very difficult, you know, labor is a difficult on the body, it's challenging on the body, the pelvic floor muscles, when you're standing and moving and walking or whatever, gravity can make them fall or collapse or weaken, so they recommend laying down a lot for the first week and allowing those, because otherwise you're vulnerable to things like prolapse and other interesting things that can happen with the pelvic floor muscles.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You hear this from a lot of, when I would train clients, later on, I learned some of these movements and exercises because these are things that women sometimes are embarrassed to talk about, but after having a baby, they know, can't do jumping jacks because they, you know, they might, you know, pee a little bit or lose some of that control. I did not know that. So for the week or two afterwards, don't do anything at all on lay down.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, anyway, I want to thank you for bringing the meat sticks finally. You weren't lying, you didn't eat them all. Not only did I bring them, but I also reached out to Shana and had them send another box. You guys, we should be fine for at least a day. Speaking of these things, is that something that Jessica will eat right now or no? She will eat those.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yes, yes. It's a great source of protein. Well, if you ever eat like jerky or meat sticks or things that, you know, can store for a while, convenient. First off, the quality's typically not good, but they're always dry. They're always really dry. Well, I mean, that was not that was the other, that was their biggest, okay, we were hunting for,
Starting point is 00:48:15 I mean, all of us are fans of Beef Jerky. Okay, there's no, there's no surprise in that. And we had gone through what I think three other companies that we had send stuff. They were all dry. They didn't taste none of them. I was excited about. No, not none of them tasted good. And here's what's hard. It's not only the points that you make, but then also grass fed too. It's like we talk about with butcher box all time. What was so rare about that company was, you know, for grass fed beef it's a taste so good, the same thing goes for beef jerky, finding a healthier choice of beef jerky
Starting point is 00:48:48 that tastes amazing also. That's the best snack for kids. You want to give your kids a snack? Oh, yeah. I think my kids have the jalapeno ones, which is surprisingly good. Oh, that's my favorite. That's really?
Starting point is 00:48:59 I like the Somersauce. Oh, that's my least favorite. Oh, I love it. Yeah, give it to me. No, original teriol, the Somersaucerier sauce or jalapeno or my go-to but I'm not a fan of the summer sausage Good you eat all those leave your opinion on Justin loves that good old summer sausage bringing on mad I'm going to plan everything. Maps, quads! Today's quads brought to you by Max and Obolic!
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Starting point is 00:49:51 In a full body routine, would you recommend sticking to the standard compound lifts on each day or would it be more beneficial to have variations each day? For example, barbell back squat day one, barbell front squat day two, gobbell front squat, day two, goblet squat, day three, and so on. I love that. Yeah. I love that. I mean, that's how we've built our, our, our most of our programs are, our built like that. And we, we talked about this recently, right? We've
Starting point is 00:50:17 talked about, you know, the benefits of running a full body routine is that those exercises end up being the type of exercises that you choose for your full body routine is that those exercises end up being the type of exercises that you choose for your full body routine. Versus if you did legs all in one workout, very few people are going to go back squat, front squat, gobbless. Right. It would just tax the shit out there. And if they did, it would lose their effectiveness because by the time you got to the second
Starting point is 00:50:38 or third exercise, you were totally gasped. That is one of the great benefits of programming full body is that you've got three phenomenal exercise. Powerhouse exercises. Sprinkling. Right. Now, there's one exception. I would say this, if you're somebody who's learning how to squat properly, then I think
Starting point is 00:50:57 you should just do back squats each time you work out practice. Right. Back squats each time you work out and get really, really good at them before you throw in a lot of these you know different kinds of variation. So when I would train clients and you know once I got their mobility to the point where we could do a back squat we would only do back squats at least two days a week and if I train them three days a week sometimes all the days that I train them for maybe a few months until I saw their back squats look really, really good, solid and strong,
Starting point is 00:51:28 then I would bring in a front squat or a golfing squat or a Bulgarian split stand. Well, that's the beauty of back squats and the front squats especially, because they're so high skill-based, you can still get a tremendous amount of value of consistently repeating those exercises for an extended period of time.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Versus if that question was asked about leg pressing and you were leg pressing three days a week, I would see there's a lot less value in that because it's not as high skill level. Yeah, I totally agree. I think it all depends on what level you are in terms of your familiarity with those types of exercises. Like if you do need like some time learning
Starting point is 00:52:05 and developing the skill of front squatting, I would focus primarily on that for yeah, a few weeks. Like if not four to five weeks of just like trying to nail it down and then you know, start mixing it up and putting them all like in succession. Yeah, my favorite combination for me, and it built a lot of muscle, a lot of strength, not perfect, so I don't, you don't do forever, but it built a lot of muscle, a lot of strength. Not perfect, so I don't, you know, do this forever, but it was a very effective combination
Starting point is 00:52:27 was barbell squats on one workout, front squats on another workout, and then traditional deadlifts on the third workout. So every week I was doing those movements, and they're similar enough to where I'm hitting the body, most of those body parts with a little bit of frequency, but they're different enough to where the skill is different, and I would get, you know, different results from them. Yeah, I like adding in some sort of a unilateral movement, like a Bulgarian split squat or doing like a lunge in there. I think that there's a lot of value to the,
Starting point is 00:52:53 because that's really, that's just a single leg squat. So it's definitely up there with top five leg exercises. Goblet squats to me are a little similar to front squats. You can't load it as much. Those apply more to me for a client similar to front squats. You can't load it as much. Those apply more to me for a client that I'm using that for a particular reason, right? They have a hard time loading the bar in the front. They can't put it on their shoulders.
Starting point is 00:53:14 They either they have more of a forward lean when they squat, they don't break 90. So I really enjoy using goblet squats for that. Otherwise, that movement is so close to front squats that I would use something else instead of the Goblet Squat in place that he's recommending here. Yeah, probably wouldn't use Goblet Squats the most. Two is like, uh, the Zurcher Squats, too, as well.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Oh, there you go. Yeah, which would be a good option. Second question is from Madison Fishy. You guys frequently mention consuming point eight to one gram of protein per pound of body weight and mostly from meat for its muscle building effects and satiating factors. However, we know from data from the blue zones, longevity comes from lower protein intake and many of these people don't resistance train.
Starting point is 00:54:00 What about higher meat-based protein diets for longevity and for individuals who don't train? I love questions like this. All right, here's the problem with the observation that low protein is best for longevity, or any singular factor that you may see in some of these blue zones. These people live a long time because of the combination of all of the things that they do, like they made the mention that they don't resistance train. Okay. Follow them along throughout their day and what you'll find is a lot of general activity, hiking, swimming,
Starting point is 00:54:39 rowing. And they're usually along the equator where they get a lot of sun, vitamin D, and not to mention we don't know is if they were to resistance train equator where they get a lot of sun, vitamin D, that's good for you. And not to mention, we don't know is if they were to resistance train one to three times a week, how much better and healthier would they be? Right, that's the other thing. Like, would they benefit from doing a little bit of resistance training? Would it be even better for them? I would say, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Here's the other thing. They're not just low protein, they're low calorie. All of these people in these blue zones, one thing they all hadn't common is they just didn't eat a lot of food. They're over consumed. Now it is true that eating a low calorie diet in combination with a healthy lifestyle probably adds to longevity. And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. But if you're somebody that also wants life quality and quality of life means having a little bit more strength, a little bit more muscle, then I see that as,
Starting point is 00:55:32 you know, include that in the whole answer for yourself. What's, it's not just about living longer, it's also about living better. What does that mean for you? Like, for example, never eating birthday cake ever. You'll probably live longer, but are you gonna live better if you avoid eating the cake at your kid's birthday or maybe something that you enjoy making with family members or whatever? Throwing those things in also adds quality.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Well also consider this, if you were somebody who lived in a blue zone or lived a lifestyle like that, what comes to mind is like, the family that literally lives on a farm and produces everything they eat. The amount of lifting hay and stacking boxes and pushing plows and like,
Starting point is 00:56:21 you don't need to work out. Right, exactly. This person is getting a workout every single day. The food choices that they're making are whole foods. They're eating in a calorie deficit compared to how much they're burning with all their activity. Like, hell yes, if that's you, if you're asking this question,
Starting point is 00:56:38 you live on the farm, you're growing all your food, you're doing all this stuff, skip working out and skip eating, you know, 0.8 to 1 gram, but you'll be fine and you'll live probably a very long life. But the reality is, that's not 90% of the people listening to this podcast right now. In fact, 90% of you listening right now are probably fucking doing it sitting down, sitting down in a car, sitting down in a computer in your desk. Maybe the other 10% are walking on a treadmill
Starting point is 00:57:05 or exercising and listening to us and you're, but most of us live a very sedentary lifestyle. We live nothing like a blue zone. So to cherry pick some of the data to use that as an example of like maybe how we should live our lives. You can't do that. It's tough. No, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And here's the other thing too. Now there are societies and cultures that people have studied that eat a higher protein diet that do have exceptional health, but they're also low calorie because here's the problem. If you look at all the countries in the world that ate a lot of protein, you're also looking at generally speaking all the countries in the world that eat a lot of calories. So Americans eat a lot of protein in comparison to blue zone countries, but they also just eat a lot of everything. We eat blue zone countries, but they also just eat a lot of everything.
Starting point is 00:57:45 We eat more fat, we eat more cars, we weigh more just calories in general. So that's one of the big things. Now, I do have a hack for this. Let's say you are somebody that's, you know, you want to build muscle, you like eating high protein diet, like the way it makes you feel, the way it makes you look, but you do identify that there may be some longevity benefits to eating a low calorie diet. You can actually get some of those benefits by fasting occasionally. So maybe you normally do eat a high protein diet.
Starting point is 00:58:12 You're trying to build muscle-built strength. But maybe once every other month, you do a 48 or 72 hour fast. You're going to reap a lot of the benefits just from doing that. I think there's, sorry, in a ruptune, but to this point, you're saying right now, and I believe our good friend Ben Pukolsky recommends this. You could protein fast. Yeah. If you want...
Starting point is 00:58:36 You can go low protein for a week. Yeah, even a day. I think he recommends it once a week for a day. Once a week for a day, go protein fast. There's nothing wrong with that. And the same benefits that we're seeing that these, that the people in the blue zones are getting from this, you'll reap those similar benefits by just either doing what Sal saying, which is, you know, every other month doing a massive, you know, two day or
Starting point is 00:58:58 48 hour type of 48 hour, 72 hour fast from all foods, or simply choosing every other week or once a week doing a protein fast and doing like and you used to do this a lot and you introduced me to it. I did it is you know occasional all vegan diet a day where you eat that way. So there's lots of values and ways for you to get these similar benefits of a lot of the research that we see between these people that are on low calorie diets, low protein, low everything, that's what fasting is all about. Next question is from Mason Heartsock.
Starting point is 00:59:31 For trainers who have no interest in online training, what are the best next steps to survive and thrive as we progress away from lockdown and gyms begin opening again? Can we address the question first? Like, I find it really interesting that somebody would ask a question and be like, you know, for someone who does not want to do that. Like, I'm going to take a horse to that.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Listen, I didn't want to do that. I loved personal training in person. I like the real interaction with real people. It doesn't get much better than that. It doesn't. It's than that. It doesn't. It's more enjoyable. I think there's lots of benefits to it, but because you don't like it, to ignore the evolution of what's happening right in front of your eyes, I think is a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And it doesn't necessarily mean that I think you have to go from being an online trainer because of COVID now So you decide you're gonna be a virtual trainer completely. That's not what I mean by that But there are some simple things that if I were to advise you to become a virtual trainer that I would also Tell you some steps to take and that would be to build a virtual presence Right, there's a tremendous amount of value for you even if you continue to build in there's a tremendous amount of value for you, even if you continue to build an in-person business to creating content that lives in the virtual world. So building a YouTube channel, building a Facebook page, building an Instagram page, writing blogs, writing free white papers and guides, creating things like that is only
Starting point is 01:01:02 going to support your in-person business. Meanwhile, it also protects you in case that completely disappears or gets reduced from X amount percentage of population down to 50% less than that. So I think instead of resisting ever becoming a virtual trainer or thinking like that, you should build your current model as
Starting point is 01:01:25 if you are going to to protect yourself and also support your in-person business. That would be my advice. I remember even, and this is way before all this stuff went down where virtual training was a lot more prevalent and it's really necessary right now, I was looking at it as a way of systematizing my business and figuring out the way that I do everything and being able to duplicate that and be able to hand that off and look at it more of like, I'm running this business to then have the availability to step away from my business
Starting point is 01:02:01 and pass on my business to somebody else. That's just a smart way to look at any business. One of the most beautiful things that has happened from this, and I get this sometimes, like I have some friends that still don't understand mind pump, they don't listen, they don't, they're whatever, but they're like, you know, they're starting to hear the success. They know somebody else who listens and that's like, oh my God, like so and so knows your podcast and that and, you know, and now they're asking, like, well, what if, what happens when you reach all the fitness people
Starting point is 01:02:26 and they've either bought your program or not and like you guys aren't making any money, like what would you do or how you can handle that? And it's like, what's beautiful is we all could always fall back on training people in person. And it would be easier now than it's ever been in our entire life. No, because we have a huge online presence.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yes, because we've built a network of people that we've provided a ton of free, valuable, virtual information to that. If one day we all said, okay, MindPump, Instagr, MindPump podcast is shutting down, but Sal, Justin Adam are opening their availability to train clients in person who would like to sign up. I don't think that any of us would have a problem actually making that pivot at all and
Starting point is 01:03:08 it protects us if we were ever to do that. Here's something to also consider for the current market. So I could see this being an opportunity for people who for trainers who like to train people in person. You heard us earlier talking about schools and how there's micro schooling and home schooling is going on like crazy and people, and again, California, they're shutting gyms down. They're still a demand for fitness, but I think that there may be an opportunity to deliver it to people's homes. I believe when people are doing this micro schooling
Starting point is 01:03:40 thing, they're going to still want in activity or exercise portion. And these people may also hire tutors to help with their kids. Why not hire a trainer to show up once or twice a week to their physical education? To the physical training for the kids or to better to do it than some people. Then a personal trainer, right?
Starting point is 01:03:58 Or to take the whole family through a workout. Or to advertise that you'll go to people's homes and you take all the safety precautions, you wear a mask, you stay at a distance from your client, you bring your own equipment. It's all sanitized. And they work out and you do it outdoors and you go from home to home.
Starting point is 01:04:17 That's a market that was difficult to penetrate before for trainers. I feel like that would be a much more open market now. Yeah, and you factor in your travel and all that kind of stuff in terms of like, I mean, I actually ran a business very similar to that towards the end of my career just because my whole goal was to be able to provide, you know, I could, I could basically fit any sort of schedule like I'm going to find my way in there. And so a lot of times that meant me having to actually physically be at their worker, at their home.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And you really don't need a whole lot of equipment, not a big investment for you to have within your vehicle and then bringing that in, you can provide the really great workout. So it's ripe for that for sure. Next question is from Netflix and Rachel. How can I fix my anterior tilt? Okay, so she is referring to an anterior pelvic tilt.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Now, for those of you who don't know what that means, imagine looking at someone from a side view, this is where the lower back arches and the butt kind of sticks out and the belly kind of comes forward, okay? This is a common posture issue that you see in people in modern societies. Mainly because we do a lot of sitting and we don't have good core strength. So this posture starts to appear because your hip flexors start to tighten up to try
Starting point is 01:05:39 to support your core. Start worrying about back pain specifically. Yeah, back pain, hip pain, wearing high heels encourages this type of posture. So if you wear a lot of heels, you'll start to get this posture. And so it just, it doesn't feel good. And then if you go to exercise in barbell squat or deadlift or anything else that involves low back stability, you know, it can cause a lot of problems.
Starting point is 01:06:02 So in order to fix it, you want to strengthen the opposing movement pattern, if you will. One great exercise. First off, you got a strength in your core. Everybody who understands anterior pelvic tilt will tell you to strengthen your core. But the problem with just saying that is, people who have tight hip flexors and weak cores can go do sit-ups and leg raises and all these ab exercises and they can perform them and not get good core strength because they don't realize that their hip flexors are doing a little more.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Re-enforcing the problem because they keep using that same muscle. That's right. In fact, they make things worse. So strengthen your core but learn how to strengthen your core. On our YouTube channel, there's a movement called hip flexor deactivators. Check that out. I teach you how to deactivate the hip flexors and then activate the core muscles so that you can start to separate the two
Starting point is 01:06:53 and strengthen the core to kind of help offset that posture. Well, this is another example of this answer lies, for sure, in the Mindpoint TV channel on YouTube. In fact, Serene just did a video, the latest video that has gone up on that channel is, you know, pelvic, clockwise. I forget the title of it, but it will definitely help with this issue.
Starting point is 01:07:12 The number one downloaded video or viewed video on there is the three best secrets to build a better. But I actually addressed this in that, and with floor bridges, and I talk about this. So even though it doesn't floor bridges. Even though anterior pelvic tilt is not in the title, the movements and the priming that I talk about to build a butt.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Because a lot of times this is what happens. When somebody has an anterior pelvic tilt, it shifts the weight over into their quads and like their hip flexors like cells, alluding to why you wanna do hip flexor deactivators. And then when you go into like a squad, a lunge, or any leg or butt type of exercise, they end up developing or feeling most of it in the quads
Starting point is 01:07:49 and not the butt where they want. So the video that I did on the butt is really addressing why it's so valuable, is it's addressing anterior pelvic tilt, which many, many people suffer from. And why that's so important if you then want to develop a butt, because you first have to address the anterior pelvic tilt, get the glutes firing properly, and then what types of exercises to support that. And then in conjunction with that, what Sal is talking about about building the core and supporting that,
Starting point is 01:08:16 all of that together is what's going to fix the anterior pelvic tilt and then also help build your glutes or posterior. Yeah, another great one is our wall test. And really just to gain access to the TVA again. And so it really like, a lot of times like with the anterior pelvic tilt, you lose that access to core muscles that are vital in stabilizing your spine. And so that's why a lot of these pains persist because you have to be able to distribute that for somewhere. And so a lot of times it stops in inconvenient places where your body takes on a lot of
Starting point is 01:08:50 that stress and creates this pain. And isn't that, Doug, they can still access that webinar that Justin did for prime, right? That's in that webinar. Yeah, map that's prime. That's prime. Webinar.com. Okay, excellent. Yeah, it's by far the most, if I did an assessment on a new client,
Starting point is 01:09:06 I could pretty much guarantee that I would see anterior pelvic tail and forward shoulders. Like, oh, it's so common. I would say eight or nine out of 10 people have that issue. And here's a thing with these posture deviations. Your body moves in the direction that your muscles dictate. Your body moves in the direction that your muscles dictate. So if there's muscles that are weak or tight or constantly in a mild state of tonus or slightly tensed all the time or lacks and not connecting very well, your posture would just follow that. And then what happens over time, if you don't fix it, is it gets worse and worse and worse. And the way you fix it is by strengthening the muscles
Starting point is 01:09:45 that need to be strengthened. You cannot fix this problem with belts and braces and things that will hold you in position. That's only gonna cause the issue to get worse. Look, mine pump is recorded on video as well as audio. What's up, everybody at YouTube. Come check us out, mine pump podcast. You can also find us all
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