Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1349: The Importance of Carbs Post-Workout for Muscle Growth, When & How to Use Touch & Go Deadlifts, the Benefit of Refeeds When Dieting & More

Episode Date: August 1, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about recommended supplements to reduce inflammation, the importance of carbs post-workout for muscle growth, the pros an...d cons of the touch n go deadlift vs. the reset deadlift and thoughts on refeeds when dieting. Dealing with hair loss. (4:47) Kodak, a great example of crony capitalism. (12:40) Sal’s hair secret revealed. (15:43) Italians love fountains. (19:48) The major takeaways from Big Tech’s antitrust hearing. (20:50) GDP contraction: When will the bubble burst? (25:50) Have people considered how many lives Amazon has saved? (28:20) Understanding the whole picture: Why are there so many centenarians on the island of Sardinia? (31:07) Mind Pump Recommends, Love on the Spectrum on Netflix. (34:38) Did you know how much your body parts are worth on the black market? (37:34) #Quah question #1 – I have a lot of inflammation after working out. Are there any supplements you recommend for recovery to reduce some of the inflammation? (42:15) #Quah question #2 – How important are carbs post-workout for muscle growth? (48:06) #Quah question #3 – What are the pros and cons of the touch n go deadlift vs. the reset deadlift? (53:44) #Quah question #4 – What are your guy’s thoughts on refeeds when dieting? I heard you talk about a study when suddenly eating more calories after or during a deficit can lead to more fat cells. But there is also research to show refeeds help prevent metabolic adaptation, such as a slower metabolism. (1:00:08) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Promo code “STRONG50” at checkout** FLASH SALE (ends Friday, July 31st, 2020): All MAPS Programs ½ off!! **Promo code “ATHOME50” at checkout** Kodak surges 34% after skyrocketing 1,200% in 2 days Batterygate: Apple Probed For Possible Violations Of Deceptive Trade Practice Laws These 3 moments from Big Tech's blockbuster antitrust hearing could come back to haunt the companies, according to Wall Street analysts Eurozone GDP shrinks at the fastest rate in history, losing 12.1% in the second quarter Down to Earth with Zac Efron | Netflix Official Site Sardinia’s Blue Zone: the Centenarians’ Diet Love on the Spectrum | Netflix Official Site This Is How Much Your Body Is Worth Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Sore muscles…what does it mean? Why you should almost NEVER take Advil, Aleve, or Aspirin (NSAIDS) before or after exercise 4 Cues To Improve Your Deadlift With Eugene Teo – Mind Pump TV Ben Pollack Shares The Proper Deadlift Setup (AVOID MISTAKES) | Mind Pump TV Why we Caution People to Stay Away from CrossFit Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast. The entire world! We answer fitness and health questions that are asked by viewers and listeners, just like you. Now the way we open these episodes is with an introductory portions where we cover current events. We talk, we tell stories, we have a lot of fun. It's my favorite part.
Starting point is 00:00:32 So if you'd like to be entertaining and have fun tuning into the beginning of this episode, that's 37 minutes long. If you just want the fitness questions fast forward, past 37 minutes, that's when we answer the fitness stuff. But let me give you a whole breakdown the whole episode. So we open up by talking about hair loss. Adam brings up a topic about hair loss. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Then we talk about the company Kodak and how they had a wonderful gift from the government to produce pharmaceutical drugs. That's kind of weird. That is weird. Then I talked about my neighbors and how I can spot the Italian ones. Then we talk about the investigation into Apple. I guess it's a big deal with tech right now in the government.
Starting point is 00:01:11 That led me to talk about Amazon and how they are inadvertently probably saving a lot of lives right now. Then we talked about the GDP contraction. One of the biggest we've seen since World War II, that's kind of crazy. I talked about protein and the blue zones. Those of you that have been messaging me about that show on Netflix with Zach Efron. I talk about, and I address what they said on there
Starting point is 00:01:36 about the island of Sardinia and their low protein diet. Then we talked about a show on Netflix called Love on the Spectrum. We talked about how much your body parts are worth on the black market. A bit you didn't know your body was worth so much money. Hey, look and do it. And then we got into answering the fitness questions. All right, so here's the first one. This person says they have a lot of inflammation after working out.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And they want to know if there's any supplements that they can take to help with that. Anything that they can take that's natural that can help reduce inflammation. Now we talk about all the causes of too much inflammation from working out to diet, so we talk about that in that part of the episode. But we do mention a few supplements. One of our favorite supplements that helps reduce inflammation, at least helps your body produce the right amount of inflammation because you still need some to build muscle and repair. This product that we like is called Move and it's from Organify. Organify is a company
Starting point is 00:02:31 we've been working with for a very long time. They make all organic products. They're very, very high quality. Organify Move has some ingredients that really do help with unnecessary inflammation. Now, if you want to go to Organifying and get the Mind Pump discount, which is 20% off, here's what you gotta do. Go to Organify.com, that's ORGA and IFI.com, forward slash Mind Pump, and then use the code Mind Pump, you'll get 20% off. The next question, this person wants to know,
Starting point is 00:02:58 how important is it to have carbohydrates after your workout? The third question, they wanna know what the pros and cons are of dead left done in the touch and go fashion. And the final question, this person wants to know what we think about refeeds while dieting. This is when you cut your calories and then you inject a higher calorie day
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Starting point is 00:04:53 What's that? How handsome are you on a skill of one to ten? No, that's close though. That's close. That's close. I hope it's evolved from Mary F. Kill. I hate that one. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:03 I'm actually starting to get into that one. I like it now. What? It's gone full circle? Well I'm actually starting to get into that one. I like it now. What? It's gone full circle? Well, I put a little thought into it now. Have you seen me answer those ones? No, I haven't. Yeah, I try and put a little bit of like creative thought into it.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And sometimes they turn out okay, so I don't mind it. I think every saint, when it's the same one, you guys, it's lame. Yeah, it's awesome to say. Yeah, what it's like. Because we know you're going to marry Doug. Yeah. The stable one. Whatever. I rolled Doug out of the bus yesterday. Yeah, what it's like because you're we know you're gonna marry Doug Whatever I rolled Doug out of the bus yesterday. He has no idea because he doesn't ever on
Starting point is 00:05:35 I saw he did He's like oh shit, it's he looked right now you should go look Doug on my story no, but when I say so people always are not always are now all the time asking me I get at least I don't know five or six every time I do that of guys asking me how difficult it was for me to accept going bald. Yeah and originally in case you laugh right so originally I thought they were just kind of jabbing at me and playing with me so I would kind of like fire back and maybe a smart ask with them. Serious. Yeah, they're I think they're serious questions. jabbing at me and playing with me. So I would kind of like fire back and maybe be smart-ass with them. These are serious. Yeah, they're, I think they're serious questions. I think a lot of people really struggle with that.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And it's just now started to dawn on me that a lot of these people were not fucking with me. I thought they were at first. Like, I was like, you know, F you dude, you know, that was kind of my response. Throwing a jab at you. Yeah, yeah, but no, I think they were generally asking like, what, you know, how have you dealt with it? And it's okay, I'm like, oh wow, you know, you know, for me, it's like,
Starting point is 00:06:28 it was a bit of a process, wasn't it? Not really, I think it was more like, still thinking that I can pull it off, you know? Yeah, that's part of the accepting part. Yeah, well, I still thought I was still somewhat pulling it off for a while there. I feel like it was like, it was the last year, it was like, okay, it's just gonna look. And to be completely honest, like, I wanted to shave my head at least a year or two before
Starting point is 00:06:52 I started. It was Katrina in my ear all the time saying, it looks fine the way it is, it looks fine the way it is. And I'm like, ah, it's driving me crazy. I can see my scalp. It's thinning like crazy. It's getting worse. No, no, no, it's not like she liked my hair so much
Starting point is 00:07:05 that, and I'm like, I used to shave my head as a kid growing up all the time playing sports. I liked it. How does she feel about the shaved head now? She likes it now. But it took me, and it was, I remember when I did it, I said, listen, no more, I'm shaving my head. Now you're tall, so, you know, in real life,
Starting point is 00:07:21 nobody sees it too much, but was it because you were on camera? Is that what made you go, oh, I could see it more? Yeah, I mean, I told you, I'll never forget to, like, probably the one time, if it ever hit me, where I was like, oh, good, was when we were in the front studio, where those really nice lights are, it's like super, like, right, you can't hide in those lights.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah, where Sal looks like he's like super tan all the time. Oh yeah. And it was like golden up there. What is that happen by the way? Why does it make me look so cool? I don't all of the gold. You don't look that way right now when I'm looking at you, but when we look at, especially this,
Starting point is 00:07:55 usually that handsome. Especially the G's. Yeah. It's true. Wow. As you see my comment on the, your last video that we did at the Tahoe House, because you were just so tan,
Starting point is 00:08:04 I said this would, when Doug over applies the self-tanner. Because he did you just look like you have self-tanner on you. It's so you're so darned. He's the beautify app. Whatever. Yeah. But no, there was a time when Rachel was recording me right. I don't know right what I was doing.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I remember. And she was recording me for something. I don't remember what. And I was I looked down at my phone, and I'm looking down at my phone, cameras are on me for some whatever, and the lights like just are beaming on my top of my head. And that's one of my hair was like longer
Starting point is 00:08:34 and grown out and styled. And then she was like showing me the edit for like whatever, and she's not even paying attention to that. And she showed me, I'm like, oh my God, why didn't anybody tell me this? Does it look this bad? But the, I mean, obviously the lights make it. Now did you ever use products like,
Starting point is 00:08:52 so I have a friend of mine who use this like, sprinkle like these, you ever watch those influential stuff? Like a spray can. Yeah, like a spray can't, like remember that? The commercial do spider head. 100% I have that stuff and is it work? It works magical. What is it? It's like a just a powder
Starting point is 00:09:09 That goes on there and it was great for like if I had a wedding or a video photo anything like that where I like Cameras and lights would hit on me and that's just it was that spraying a little turf on if I would have had that on my head You wouldn't even notice it because it just kind of it doesn't not come off It just blends in like if you put your head if you're sitting on my head, you wouldn't even notice it, because it just kinda, Does it not come off? It just blends in. Like if you put your head, if you're sitting on a white couch, and you kind of lean back,
Starting point is 00:09:29 and you're gonna watch your face, You have like sprinklers, little flakes. No, once it dries, it doesn't. My buddy was the one who saw my two best friends who go back to childhood with me. Both of them are like, they're way more bald than I am, right? So they were, they, and they went bald
Starting point is 00:09:41 when we were like in our late 20s. And it was my buddy Justin who like introduced this powder to me and I remember I'll never forget because he he had already been bald for a while And he senses this video. He's got like a full head of hair and and I'm looking at it And I mean his his wife is like videoing it like literally six inches from his scalp under light and we're like What the fuck? Yeah, how did this happen right and then he like, what the fuck? How did this happen, right? And then he like, videoed her sprinkling on his head and it is wild, how good it like pulls it off.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So what are they, like little fibers that it does to your hair? Yeah, it's like this really like, you know, and you order like the colors that match your hair. And so it totally, and it like attaches itself to, it works for somebody who has like, like where I was at. You can't do when you're just thinning. Yeah, yeah. You're super bald that it's like, yeah, you know, I'm saying it looks like someone painted something on your head or whatever. It doesn't work. But it works better than anything
Starting point is 00:10:36 that I've seen like is like I tried all the shampoos and the like all this, all that, all that bullshit. And that always would grow like this peach fuzz. Like monocidil? Yeah, or that's what the actual chemical that's in like, Boswell and shit like that right. Yeah, you guys know what monocidil was invented for originally? It was for, I believe blood pressure. Oh, they say killing rats or something.
Starting point is 00:10:57 No, no, no. The byproduct was a grown hair. Yeah, no, this is also how Viagra became hit the market. Yeah, Viagra was for something else They were both the drugs and vent that were Investigate or created for different things and then they didn't work super excited Are you if you're a scientist and that just happened? You're like oh shit? Bro, that's what happened with Viagra. So Viagra is a vasodilator, right?
Starting point is 00:11:20 It blocks the enzyme that degrades nitric oxide So when you have more nitric oxide, your blood vessels open up, and so you should have lower blood pressure. So they test out Viagra as a blood pressure lowerer, and it was okay. It didn't really do a super great job, it kind of worked a little bit, whatever. But when they kept asking people side effects, they were all like, well, I mean, one of the side effects I noticed is I get, you know, raging erection. You know?
Starting point is 00:11:48 And so, imagine you're the company, this is this, because it's hard to walk. Oh, it's beautiful, right? So the scientist doing the study are like, you know, writing the report and are like, ah, you know, it doesn't work. Here's the report, it doesn't work. Now, here's the marketers from the company.
Starting point is 00:12:00 They're reading it and they're like, wait a minute, look at the side effect. Everybody's getting a boner. We hit the goldmine, you know? I wasn't really working, but man, I'm excited. Yeah, you know. Imagine being a part of that meeting that would be the most epic meeting ever.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I think that's, it's, isn't it interesting? Because I guarantee they read it and they're like, oh man, the study came back. It kind of lowers blood pressure, whatever. Yeah. And then one of them was like, hold on a second, everybody calm down. Yeah. Look at the side effects. And one's like,
Starting point is 00:12:25 hard on, ding-ding-ding-ding. Johnson is tentative out right now. Same thing with Monoxidil. Monoxidil, the side effect was people were growing hair. It's something, they did sell it for that before. It was all about growing hair. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Isn't that funny? Yeah, back to my stories. So I get, I always get people like asking to random names of people that are either in our space or whatever, like, what do you think of this person and would you guys have this for them? And I'm like, I don't know who the hell these people are. So I don't have like, some.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And they're always weird names. Yeah, they are. They're like, I don't know who that is. We think about like, it's not weird. It's like, there's all these other people. I've never even heard of them. Like, it's such a bigger pool than I even thought. I'm always getting messages that are like,
Starting point is 00:13:03 you should interview like, you know, tractor tire beast mode, you know, or whatever. I'm not gonna messages that are like, you should interview like, you know, tractor tire beast mode, you know, or whatever. And I'll be like, why? Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, so somebody says the name Kodak.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And, right? So they say like, what do you think of Kodak? And that's because that's normally how they present it when it's a person, right? So I'm assuming they're talking about some Instagram person. And it does sound like some meathead on Instagram. Totally, right? So I just, I go, I mean, there's even a supplement line
Starting point is 00:13:26 that's just named after that. Me shoes, my name's Kodak. Kodak is the name, by the way. So, oh, is that what it is? It's a grizzly, it's like a grizzly. Okay, so I'm like, so, you know, when I do these, they're fast. I don't put a lot of thought into them.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It's just like, what pops in my head right away? I just say something back. Sometimes it's a smart ass comment. Well, so the Kodak comes up. And so the first thing that I think of is the old film company that went bankrupt back in 2012. And I say sell the stock. It's, the company went bankrupt years ago.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Wow. And so you didn't know? I didn't know. So I have no idea. And then later on that night, I was actually talking to some investor guy and we were talking about what's going on with the economy out of this and that and
Starting point is 00:14:08 I think you shared an article so and it was on code act and I'm like wait a second I thought code is out of business like click on it. It's like the stock is like 3000 Yeah, and I said sell it and they were asking you about code act. Yeah, they were asking me about the stock I had no idea which is funny this is why you shouldn't ask me stock advice. I don't try to pretend like I am a stock at all. What a great example of something that I hate more than anything. Chrony Capitalism.
Starting point is 00:14:34 You guys know what Apple Kodak right? 100%. This was a dying dead company. If somebody were to investigate, I guarantee that Trump or somebody in his administration is connected to it, brothers, friend or somebody. And then they're gonna spin it and be like, American jobs. Here's what happened. Kodak got a huge loan from the government for dirt cheap to produce, ready for this? Generic pharmaceutical drugs.
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Starting point is 00:15:34 It's one of the old American companies, right? Oh, we're bringing it back. Name brand, kind of thing. Yes. What the hell do you have to do with pharmaceutical drugs? That's weird. You know, I was thinking too about having gray hair going back to your bald thing.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Like for me, I was dealing with that. Even when I was in probably high school, I was starting to see signs of like, little bits of like gray sparse here and there and I was like, diet and stuff to go through. When, when, so, Sal, you're rocking the grays. I'm rocking the grays. Everybody's always surprised how silver,
Starting point is 00:16:04 you know, the, the, the locks of hairs are, you know, these days and I'm rocking the grays. I'm rocking the grays. Everybody's always surprised how silver, the locks of hairs are these days. And I'm just like, I'm rocking it now, like no, no, die, no nothing. Like, I just had to own it. Yeah, I've gotten compliments on my, on having gray hair, but I got mine early. I was 18, 19, I started seeing mine. Now here's the thing, in my family,
Starting point is 00:16:24 going bald runs in the family It does people just go bald your brother's sending right brothers totally do you know thinning? You know cousins totally thinning, you know gram fault my gram my dad's dad bald now my mom's dad not so much his hair is totally Why he's much older is in his late 80s? But most people lose their hair so when I was in my 20s, I want to say mid 20s, and now I always had insanely silly 1970 style, thick, ridiculous hair. Like you couldn't do anything with it.
Starting point is 00:16:55 You had a hair helmet. It was silly. Like when I woke up in the morning, I could feel it move and I'd take steps, you know? And I'd have to add a lot of, you know, LA looks gel. I remember that. Moose, moose, a lot of, you know, LA looks gel. Remember that? Moose, moose, a lot of moose.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I see you's myres. It was like this like really like crazy palm aid that was just basically just like super grease. Just, oh dude, I would go in and I heard it from you. I would go, LA looks gel first. Then I would get a blow dryer to dry the gel. It's like kind of bake it in and and then I'd use Aquinex. Oh my God, you couldn't.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You couldn't. Bro, you couldn't, you couldn't do any, if you pushed, if you took a strand of hair and like, it's like max headroom. You twisted it too hard, it would just break in your hand. That's how solid it was. But anyway, I had so much hair, and I noticed in my late 20s that it was easier to comb,
Starting point is 00:17:42 and then I'm like, wait a minute, is it starting to come out? Like am I losing a little bit? So I've been shampooing with, shampoo's that have salt, palm was easier to comb and then I'm like, wait a minute, is it starting to come out? Like am I losing a little bit? So I've been shampooing with, it's shampoos that have salt, palmetto on them since then. I think that's why I haven't lost my sense of, I do maintaining it. I do think that's why I do. Now, was it, did you guys have a hard time with it
Starting point is 00:17:56 since it happened so, because I wonder, like when people were asking, I was thinking about this last night, when people asked me about this whole ball thing, I thought, well, you know what, maybe, maybe if it really hit me in my 20s, maybe it would bother me. Like, I think we're in a more sensitive, like, we're rousing around.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah, like, where am I? I don't give a shit. I got my wife and kid. She's already locked in. Yeah, she's already committed. You don't say it, like, you ain't going nowhere. What's wrong with that? Yeah, so it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Plus, I feel like the less air you have, so long as the money goes up at the same time. It doesn't matter. Yeah, my stock is still averaging out higher. No hair, not a money. Nobody gives shit. You don't want to be in your early 20s, nobody. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I think maybe that's why I don't feel like it was such a big deal for me.
Starting point is 00:18:39 But I didn't go through that. Maybe you guys were going through that with Grace really early. Did you battle a little bit? I never cared. I did diet here and there for fun. I didn't go through that. Like maybe you guys were going through that with Grace really early. Did you battle a little bit in security? I never cared. And I did diet here and there for fun, but I really didn't care. And part of it was, remember, I was 19 and early 20s
Starting point is 00:18:55 when I was managing gyms. And then I own my own. And I don't think there's anything to it. And by the way, I don't think there's anything wrong with the, like some people might look at that and go like, oh, you diet it because you're insecure about it. It's like, I mean, if you can't, we have tools to die it. It's people die their hair on a lot of them. Free easy fix.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, it's a very easy fix. So like, I don't see anything wrong with that. I actually liked it because because I was so young and because I would manage these big gems, I made you look older and mature. Right. And so people would always guess that I was in my 30s when I was in my, which I remember. Well, I used to give teas and made fun. Every now and then and it it would roll off me,
Starting point is 00:19:27 but then sometimes I just, but I'm just tired. I would die black just to be like. You would die or hear black? Yeah. Wow. What about your eyebrows? Because those are pretty light brown.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah. No, I left those as it. So the drapes and the carpet's worth. Definitely didn't match. They were totally off from whatever. Dude, I got a theory. I want to drapes and the drapes and the carpets were. Definitely didn't match. Totally off from whatever. Whatever I had. Dude, I got a theory. I want to ask you guys what you guys think about this.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I don't know if this is true everywhere, but it's definitely true in California so far. So when you see a house in a regular suburban neighborhood in San Jose and they have a big water fountain outside their house, it's probably either an Italian or Greek family. That wasn't a house. I've just noticed it every single time.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I don't know why. I know Italians love putting fountains in there. So whenever I see a fountain in the house at a nowhere, like if there's no houses in the whole neighborhood with a fountain, this house has a fountain, especially if the driveway is also paved with some kind of stone. It seems a little Mediterranean vibe.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Always, dude. Always. So I saw this, this house I walk by all the time, when I go, there's this loop that Jessica and I do in our neighborhood, and this guy's got this big fountain, and he's got like this paved driveway and whatever. And I'm always like, thinking, I'm like, I beg you that's, it's gotta be in a time.
Starting point is 00:20:38 But anyway, this morning walking by, he's got a big, a time flag outside of his house with American flagers. I knew it. I knew it, you guys always do this stuff. You know? This morning walking by he's got a big Italian flag outside of his house with American flag and you called it. I knew it, you guys always do this stuff. Did you guys, did either one of you guys catch the last night or yesterday, the day before yesterday was the they had all the big tech companies.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Would they were anti-trust hearing? Did you see that dug at all? Yeah, I saw that. Did you watch it or? I didn't really watch it now. What were the, what were they talking about? A lot of stuff that we've already brought up. So remember when we had the big debate recently
Starting point is 00:21:08 with Amazon, right? So that was on there. 100% that's what they're getting trouble for. Google was on there. Google was in trouble for what? 41% of their traffic reverting back to their own. Right back and point back to their Google related products. Yeah, so it was just like a lot of echo chamber,
Starting point is 00:21:26 like we're just gonna drive you right back to offerings that we're promoting. So, and this is, it gets back to kind of what we were having our debate back and forth on, like, is this fair play or is it not? And here's another one, how about Apple? Did you see apples? No.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So Apple is something that, I used to joke like it's conspiracy theory, but like, you know, there's always a little truth, right? And when we saw this article, I was like, I sent it right away to my buddies, I was like, dude, we've been saying this forever. And I know you guys are gonna test this. How often do you, if you, you've had wall-hat iPhones
Starting point is 00:21:59 for probably since generation one or two, right? Every time the new iPhone comes out, all of a sudden, my old iPhone fucking bogs down, and it's a, dude, they're getting, they're being investigated for that. Good. And there's proof to show that they slow down the network and shit and slow down.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Savitizing. Your old iPhone when the new releases come out. See now, if a company, that's all is shady. Yes, if a company's lying to you or purposely misleading you, then yes, the courts definitely get involved and those companies need to use. I mean, that you know, because what's the motivation to keep upgrading your phone?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Right. Now it works perfectly good. Now, like Google, let's go back to Google. If Google, because Google makes a lot of money by having companies spend advertising with them, right? So Google ad words or whatever. If Google is not disclosing to these companies that they redirect a lot of traffic to their stuff, I could see that
Starting point is 00:22:51 being a problem. But if it's otherwise, of course they're going to do that. Well, think of it like in our situation, right? So Google is very important to us, right? We have articles and blogs and pillar pages that rank on Google. We put a lot of time, effort, money into making sure that we own a topic. And that puts a lot of effort, manpower, money for us to do that. Imagine if we built that and let's use the macro nutrient calculator as an example. We spent all this time doing that. We're ranking. And then Google just leapfros us to drive to like a very
Starting point is 00:23:25 narrow macro. Right. Google macro calculator and now they're monetizing off of that. Like, is that fair or is it not fair? I okay from our standpoint, I would say it's fine. It's they can do kind of whatever they want. You know why they're all being investigated. This is what my opinion. I think they're all being investigated because there's evidence to show that they are playing favorites with political parties. And so whenever that happens, then then the politicians flex their muscle, bring you before Congress, and then they start applying pressure. I think that's what the reason. Oh, I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah. I just think theory. I would 100% because one political party in particular feels like the tech is censoring their stuff and not showing it was much. And they're kind of posing as a front that they're utility, like back to that whole thing that they're not editing and shadow banning and not giving everybody the same equal access to their platform.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And so once you start doing that, you're acting as a different entity. And so that's misleading. Yeah, it is. Well a different entity. And so that's misleaning. Yeah, it is. Well, they tried to ding Facebook for like buying Instagram, which I thought that was kind of, that was silly to me. So they haven't, they brought forward an email of Zuckerberg writing to somebody else on the team saying that Instagram would be a threat to Facebook.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And so that it was, they were on a mission to acquire them because it could- That sounds like good business. That's what I think. Yeah, I heard that. I'm like, I don't understand what the big deal without is, I mean, that's just smart. Dude, I remember back in the day, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:56 running gyms and competing with other gyms and the shit that we would do. I mean, it wouldn't fly, I guess according to them. I mean, you guys ever do, so I actually did this at one point. I'm not gonna say where, but people who are very familiar with the podcast will know. Used to be part owner of a gym, and one of our competitors was a gold gym,
Starting point is 00:25:16 and you know, gold's gyms are franchise, right? So you're competing with the owner of gold. It's not really the company of gold to whatever. And so what did we do? We had a better gym, we had a great dues base. And so we would go in there and we would poach their top instructors and offer to pay them more. And I would flyer their parking lot and say,
Starting point is 00:25:33 bring in your membership card and we'll give you a free membership for three months and then you'll pay $5 less a month. And literally just crush them, competition-wise. There's nothing wrong with that. Is it aggressive? For sure, but that's the business world, you know, and that was when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:25:47 I was a little bit more of an asshole. Speaking of business and stuff, do you guys see the economic report? The GDP. Oh, bad. 32% drop. I mean, we knew this, right? You had to know this was coming.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Of course. We've never seen anything like this. World War II. The last time we saw a contraction. Now, when they compare that, like, it's a percentage thing, right? Yeah. Because obviously, the dollar amount of numbers and money is much higher today than it is then. Yeah. But it's expected. It's expected that this would happen with, you know, kind of what's going on. So huge contraction. The key is going to be, and then on top of that, add on top of that, what is it?
Starting point is 00:26:27 $4 trillion of brand new out of the air money that the government injected. This guy, this is a formula for stagnation. You know, inflation with low economic output. Prices go up. Nobody's making any money. It's going to be an interesting, well, I'm watching the housing market like crazy because I just, I read an article, I don't know if I share this in the podcast or not,
Starting point is 00:26:50 but like in, in O8, they had a 1 million foreclosures that hit the market after O8. They are projecting 28 million from this. And I know banks that are just sitting on stacks of papers right now of foreclosures that are people, but they won't release it. So we have this like artificial bubble right now. I was looking at properties just yesterday,
Starting point is 00:27:10 or day before yesterday, and there's bidding wars happening still here. I mean, it blows my mind, and we've been on this like aggressive climb for like almost eight years now, seven years plus. It's gotta come down the other direction. I would think that this is gotta to be what bursts the bubble, but then I also don't know how they're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I mean, are the banks going to trickle it out? So it doesn't feel that way, so it keeps it competitive still, which they kind of did that in 08, where it's like they're not going to release all 28 million at once. Think about it this way. It was explaining me like this a long time ago with economics. It's like a volcano. There's a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And so what you can do is you can try to reinforce the top of the volcano, but more pressure ends up building. And then you try and reinforce the top and more pressure ends up building. Eventually, when it erupts, the more that you've patched it up and tried to prevent things from happening, like kicking the can down the road, the bigger explosive it is, the bigger the correction. So, So we may experience as a pretty nasty sharp correction that happens. Now there's a flip side to that, which is, we technology has never been as amazing as it is now. And technology has really softened a lot of the problems.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Like I was thinking about this this morning on my walk, like Amazon for example, Amazon is crushing obviously, because people are shopping from home, but have people considered how many lives Amazon is probably saving right now? Think about it this way. We know that there's a pandemic that's out there. There's this virus that's out there for some people,
Starting point is 00:28:38 it can be very deadly for other people, maybe not so much. But we do know that if you're around a lot of people, and if there's a lot of people around a lot of people, the virus will spread. We know this, right? So people are trying to distance themselves. Well, Amazon has really enabled a lot of people to distance themselves. You can buy almost anything through Amazon, and it could deliver to your door at cheap, low prices, and you can get a myriad of different products, one of the side effects of that may be that we reduced a large number of infections.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Well, you can also look at it that there's a ton of businesses that are still operating and very profitable because of them, too. Right, because how would they be able to deliver their products if everybody had to close their stores? Right. We have friends that generate you know, generate 60 to 70% of their revenue through Amazon. So, and they're able to do that from home still. They don't require being into a brick and mortar. So, if it wasn't for that, they would also be in, in, in,
Starting point is 00:29:34 in dire straits. I mean, think about that for a second, right? Amazon is used so much and so many people do so much shopping. And now more people are doing more shopping, which means they're exposing themselves and other people less than they would. If this happened 30 years ago, we would have to go to the store to get everything. You'd have to go to the store.
Starting point is 00:29:55 It'd be very difficult. Back then, ordering through mail meant you got a catalog, you ordered it, you waited three weeks, and Amazon has made that totally, totally different. You buy something that's there in a day or two, you can buy almost anything on there. So Amazon may in fact be contributing to a pretty significant decrease in potential infections just through them conducting business. It's kind of amazing. Random question on the Doug, maybe you look, how many total employees does Amazon have? I have no idea. I'll look it up here yeah I'm curious how many it's a bajillion
Starting point is 00:30:27 I don't know what was the number you gave me no day I should use instead what's the what's the real that up you did something deck a million I don't know now you gave me like a real the real I mean I like bajillion because it's it's mine right I'm right 840,000 employees place. Oh, here you go Adam, it's this, what was this called? Dog bite victim, blah, blah, blah. Undesylian dollars. Undesylian. Undesylian.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You know that sounds like you haven't decided how much money. I know, right? How much money do you want to pay for this? Yeah, there's so many zeros on it. It's just like, it's absurd. It's an undesylian. I'll let you know tomorrow. Undesylian.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Let me leave it. Hey, so I've's absurd. It's an undisciilion. I'll let you know tomorrow. Let me let me let me let it Hey, so I've been getting have you guys watched the series on Netflix with Zach Efron? No, no, have you seen it? I was not pulled in that No, okay, you haven't seen it like it's one of the top in our show like top in America watch right now Oh, you know what I think it did see it's what he goes around it I looked at like another one of those goop kind of things. Pieces, what was it? I haven't watched it. Okay, I haven't watched it,
Starting point is 00:31:30 but I'm getting messages about a particular episode that was on there, but I haven't watched it. I have no interest in it. He's a handsome guy. Not gonna lie. Strikingly handsome gentleman. I'd say probably one of the more handsome gentlemen. Is that why you're bringing it up?
Starting point is 00:31:43 No, that's it. Anyway, anyway, anyway. Anyway, okay, hey, move it on. But anyway, oh, yeah. Anyway, so I guess there's an episode where he goes to the island of Sardinia. Sardinia is an island off the coast of Italy. Which is also a blue zone. It's, yeah, it's one of the blue zones of the world
Starting point is 00:31:59 where a disproportionate amount of the population lives to a hundred or more. In fact, I think they have the longest living men in the world. I think when you combine men and women, I'm not sure if they're number one, but they're definitely up there. Now, I haven't watched the episode. Okay, this is just based off of people messaging me, but they're saying that one of the reasons they're saying that the people there live so long is because they have a low protein diet
Starting point is 00:32:26 So when they look at their not using that as a fucking spin right now. Okay, now two things number one You guys remember way back like episode a hundred when I said that low protein would be the next trend Yeah, it's gonna happen. I guarantee it. Yeah guarantee it. They're gonna push it soon. But anyway So even though it's an essential macronutrient. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's a not a hard call. Yeah, so yeah, there it is down to earth with that, look at that, look at those eyes.
Starting point is 00:32:51 It's a handsome guy. Gorgeous, some mysterious thing. Thank you. Not very tall though, I heard he's not very tall. They never ruins it for me. They never are. They never are. They never ruins it for me.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Your fantasies are off. So anyway, you know, they say that it has to, part of the reason, I guess, has to do with the fact that they have a low protein diet. Now, here's the thing. Studies will show that in a pro-inflammatory pro-cancer state, proteins can drive cancers, or they can drive certain illnesses. By the way, so can certain fats and so can carbohydrates. So we need to understand context. Also understand this with the Sardinian lifestyle. That is one of a lot of factors that determine how long they live. The people in Sardinia live a life of eating whole natural foods.
Starting point is 00:33:42 They're active on a very daily basis. Community. They get lots of sunlight. Very, very tight community. They don't overeat. That's a big one. Isn't there a Pacific Island somewhere where they have a really high protein
Starting point is 00:33:55 in their blue zone? I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with that. But yeah, so there's a huge, you gotta look at the whole context. Here's another one. When people have a low calorie diet, things change and how they affect you.
Starting point is 00:34:09 For example, sugar doesn't really have much of a negative effect on you physiologically speaking when your calories are low. It's when calories are really high that you start to see this problem. So I just wanna address that. By the way, there are lots of other studies that show high protein diets,
Starting point is 00:34:24 especially in older populations, So I just want to address that. By the way, there are lots of other studies that show high protein diets, especially in older populations, improve longevity, and part of that may be through the strengthening process of the muscles, when then of course the inside effect of that is, so I wanted to address that. Yeah, well Netflix has been having a few series on there that are worth checking out. One of them was the, and of course, this might sound like
Starting point is 00:34:43 I'm like totally into these relationship like dating shows and everything. But this one caught my attention because I'm just like I love, I'm a people watcher. Like I'm very fascinated with behaviors of people. And this was highlighting like people with autism and people in the spectrum. And like how, because I mean, the biggest problem that they face is a lot of these social interactions and the way they can relate to people. And so I just found it super fascinating how they have to get coached properly
Starting point is 00:35:19 to have these types of conversations that'll go somewhere with somebody else and they really wanna to find somebody to love them back and it's like really difficult. Hold on, what's the name of the show? I love on the spectrum. Okay, so this is a show about people with autism who are dating people? Yes, and the forms of autism like very substantially.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So like they all have their own different ticks. Like lots of different things that they're born with, disability wise or like you know that they're very fixated on a very specific thing to interests them. And so they can't even have a conversation somebody if they're not interested in what they're interested in. And it's just like, oh my God, it's really fascinating.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And it's so endearing. You see that, I don't know, man, it's so innocent, the way that they're trying to interact and make it work. And they get so endearing, you see that, I don't know, man, it's so innocent, the way that they're trying to interact and make it work, and they get so frustrated, and I don't know, man, is it a feel good? So they're successful, is it? It is feel good. There's some success, but also there's some failure,
Starting point is 00:36:16 but you just fall in love with these people because they're so genuine, and they're not corrupted by all the bullshit that we're all trying to bullshit each other all the time with our interactions, and there's not like corrupted by you know all the bullshit that we're all trying to bullshit each other all the time with our interactions And there's none of that between them. There's no literally no filter. Yeah pure honesty and it's great It's crazy now do any of them do any of them like like each other is there No spoiler, but yeah, there's a few there's a few of those that like actually go well, but there's not many you know It's like it's like, oh, you just kind of hurt each other.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I had an old client once that told me, and this is one of the reasons why I love training people in advanced age, they're very wise, and he told me, find somebody that's weird the same way you are, and you'll be able to get along with them wonderfully. In other words, you know, you're real self, right? Find someone who's kind of, who's like that, and then you'll probably connect. So they have, you know, you're real self, right? Find someone who's kind of who's like that
Starting point is 00:37:05 and then you'll probably connect. So they have, you know, they have dating apps where people, I don't know why this reminded me of it. They have dating apps where people meet up other people with the same STD. Did you guys know this? Oh, I've you guys heard of these before? No, but it makes sense. Yeah. So you like, yeah, like if you got, you know, whatever, you're whatever your STD is, herpes, yeah, God whatever, I think that's curable. Then you meet someone else with the same STD. Yeah. Good, good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:37:32 It's crazy. Anyway, hey, did you guys know that your body is worth quite a bit on the market? Wow. Yeah. Now I'm not talking about prostitution. I'm talking about the black market values for various body parts. Really?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, dude. Like a limb? Bro, or like an organ. One of your kidneys, I've always known that. One of your kidneys on the black market is worth over $130,000. Wow. Did you guys know this?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Holy moly. Isn't that wild? Your lungs, $272,000. Wasn't that like a big thing like in Mexico that was going on like, I don't know, a few decades ago. That was a big deal where they were like putting they were putting people asleep and they were stealing their kidneys and she like that or is that just a movie? Oh, that sounds horrible.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Urban legend or something. No, it was real, right? There was a thing like where people were getting kidnapped and then like put put under and then they would take a kidney and there's organ trafficking I think. Yes. Yes. Okay, so it wasn't making that up. It wasn't just a movie. So I mean I don I don't, like, 99% of all these, you can't do without, but kidneys, do you guys think that people who are healthy should be able to, if they want to,
Starting point is 00:38:35 sell one of their kidneys to somebody? What do you guys think? I mean, it's your body. I know, I kind of feel like that too, right? Yeah. I think they're pretty, I don't know, crazy decision to make. I feel like they're worried that people are gonna,? I think they're pretty, I don't know, a crazy decision to make. I feel like the worry that people are gonna hurt themselves
Starting point is 00:38:49 or I don't know. I mean, I'd look at that more as if it's family and they're in a life situation where it's gonna save their life. Like that makes sense, but to sell it seems a little frivolous. But it's your own body though. It's a billion dollar industry. Wow, that's a lot. I don't know, I remember that because there used to be
Starting point is 00:39:06 some incentive program for, it would have tattooed like the bottom of your foot. And my brother and I looked at this when we were in college that they could take your body after you were deceased and use it for scientific purposes. A tattoo, I thought it was just on my driver's license. He would, no, that's for donating organs, which is something that I'm all for that,
Starting point is 00:39:27 if you're already dead, who gives a shit, right? But this was another thing where they would use your entire body for like anatomy and physiology and as a cadaver. Oh, very interesting. But they pay you good money so that they would like, you know, lock that in. Have you guys heard of these reports? I'm sure Justin has. Have you heard of these like reports where people will get a, you know, body, like an organ from a donor and then they'll
Starting point is 00:39:57 start to take on the characteristics of that person. Yeah, or their memories or weird stuff like that. Have you ever read into this? It's really trippy. Have you ever read this? No. It's weird, dude. And like, well, yeah, I don't know if it's like a factor or not really good. Did you guys find yourself in an animal conspiracy theory?
Starting point is 00:40:15 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. But anyway, I've been good at them. Yeah, listen, lizard people do this all the time. No, I, there was a story of a, I don't know if it was a man or a woman that got a heart transplant, okay, from somebody who died in a car accident.
Starting point is 00:40:33 So they got the heart that they needed. Then they met somebody through a dating site and they started dating and got married and then found out later, ready for this, the heart that the person got was from the other person's deceased spouse that died in the car accident or something like that. Like so they married somebody who had the heart
Starting point is 00:40:53 of their way back. Yes. That's true dude, I read that once. That's weird. I read that once. It was so weird. Although there's so many damn people that just mathematically it makes sense that it would happen.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Look at this. Ready? This is Discover Magazine. 15% stated that their personality had indeed changed. Wow. Not because of the donor organ, but because of the life threatening event. Oh my God. Some of the sentences underneath. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. All by the way. Nothing mentioned. It was 15% That yeah, hey how funny is that right like oh no might listen my dad ever since he almost dies debunk
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Starting point is 00:42:14 First question is from Fenton Carey. I have a lot of inflammation after working out. Are there any supplements you recommend for recovery that will help reduce some of the inflammation? Okay, so first I'll answer the question directly, but then let's talk about the main root, like most important ways you can reduce this or help emeliorate this problem. So okay, direct question, are there certain supplements that you can take? Yeah, omega-3 fatty acids, probably things with turmeric, might actually help. Organifi makes a product called Move that I've actually noticed,
Starting point is 00:42:51 makes a difference with stiffness and inflammation and the ingredients in it are legit. Obviously it's the company we work with, so we really believe in them. And I've had clients, not clients, excuse me, listeners, tell me that they've used the move and after about two to four weeks of using it, they notice pretty significant improvements. But let's talk more now about the root cause of
Starting point is 00:43:13 inflammation and why we need to deal with that first. Supplements, you know, some supplements can help and especially the ones that like organifies move, they help by giving you a more healthy inflammatory process. But we gotta look, we gotta go back a little deeper and look at why you may be feeling more inflammation. And the first culprit would be that your workout is probably inappropriate for your body. You're not moving well, you're not priming your body properly.
Starting point is 00:43:40 You can, if you do proper priming and you work out appropriately, you should not feel more inflamed right after your workout. You joints should not hurt after your workout. You should feel better than you did going into the workouts. That's always the one. I also want to know the nutrition and the diet that you're bringing into these workouts and what that looks like on a consistent basis.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But there's also the point too that a bit, like how much of the inflammation is it? Because some of it is necessary in order to signal to the body that you need to adapt and change. So we don't want to completely eliminate the inflammation after the workouts. But if it's an excess and it feels like it's really affecting your joints and stiffness, Yes, that's a problem
Starting point is 00:44:25 We need to address that the other people to address too is your your advanced lifter who's training intensely a lot The most inflammation that I ever battled even more so having a poor diet or whatever was When I was competing when I was competing I was always pushing the threshold I was always you know overreaching because I was trying to take my body the next level. So I flirted with that too much intensity, too much load, not enough days off, not enough mobility, and the joints and inflammation were the worst at that period of time for me than ever. So if you're also somebody who's a, maybe you diet well, you eat really good and clean, but you train really hard five, seven days a
Starting point is 00:45:10 week and you don't give your body adequate rest and you're not doing like mobility or you're constantly hammering and you're not kind of phasing out of types of routines that can happen a lot too. Like, I see this common with clients that love to lift heavy. They love to train super, super heavy weight, and then they get just, they're overstretching their joints, they can cause inflammation in the body. So things like that to watch out for, not just diet, too. Yeah, now I want to touch on what Justin was saying about trying to block inflammation all the time. Not a good idea. So if we look at drugs over the counter drugs, like NSAIDs, non-steril anti-inflammatories, like ibuprofen, naproxen, those do block inflammation quite effectively.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Now the problem with that is inflammation is also an important signaler in the body. It tells the body to build, it tells the body to repair. And so we do have studies that show that it lowers the muscle building signal. And over time, people who have joint issues, who take these products every time they train, we actually start to see their joints get much worse over time because the inflammatory process
Starting point is 00:46:23 lets the body know we need to strengthen rebuild and repair this area not to mention the signal that inflammation sends you which is hey don't move this way so if I got bad knees and I'm numbing myself with Nonstarotal anti-inflammatories that will allow me to continue to move in the way that's causing inflammation That's going to cause problems over time. So you should pay attention to these things. Now, dietary speaking, if you're fatty acid
Starting point is 00:46:50 profile is off for some people, that causes problems, meaning you have too many omega sixes, not enough omega threes in your diet, a high sugar diet for some people in my experience, can cause inflammation. For me, a diet that's very high in grains over time can definitely cause inflammation. So when I bring that down and have more fruits, vegetables,
Starting point is 00:47:13 and fats and proteins, I notice weightless inflammation. When I eat a ketogenic diet, now I'm not saying ketogenic diet's the best for performance or muscle building, I think it's not the best for those. In fact, I think it's one of the worst ones for that. But in terms of inflammation, one of the weird side effects of eating ketogenic is I just don't get sore. It's really strange. In fact, when I reintroduce carbohydrates, I start to get more sore. So if you're battling this really bad chronic inflammation and your diet's hiding grains and carbohydrates, you can even mess around
Starting point is 00:47:44 and see how you feel on a healthy ketogenic type diet and see if that solves that particular issue. But for most people listening, you're just not working out appropriately, probably, and you're probably not priming your body properly. That's usually the reasons why the average person is just too stiff or inflamed after a workout.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Next question is from Ashley Berg97. How important are carbs post workout for muscle growth? You know, it's funny. This is the result of very effective advertising in marketing. So supplement companies which drive the fitness industry, especially the performance industry, is driven by supplement companies.
Starting point is 00:48:29 They're the ones that bring in the money. And so then they drive the content. What kind of content is going to reinforce our products or the value in our products? And one of the best ways to sell a product, any marketer will tell you, is to attach it to a ritual. If you can attach a product to a ritual, people are more likely to use it on a regular basis. So for a long time, supplement companies have been advertising
Starting point is 00:48:58 protein powders to fitness consumers. Maybe a little less carbohydrate supplements. That's been advertised to us as well, but not nearly as much as protein. And I understand why a high protein diet is effective for building muscle, recovery, that kind of stuff. Carbohydrates might benefit somebody who's an endurance athlete needs more stamina.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Maybe they're not eating enough calories. But the problem that these supplement companies ran into was people would buy a jug of protein and it would sit in their cabinet. I knew lots of people like this in the early mid 90s when I was a kid. Almost everybody that had ever worked out ever had a jug of protein powder that was expired
Starting point is 00:49:39 because nobody ever took it. So how did supplement companies get people to buy protein and then take it, well, they came up with this whole, take it right after your workout and it builds more muscle and speeds up your recovery. And they would use studies to reinforce this. Studies show that you replenish glycogen, which is a type of energy and your muscles use
Starting point is 00:50:01 faster when they would eat carbohydrates, post workout, and then if you combine that with protein, you recover faster. Now, it is true that you replenish glycogen faster when you have carbohydrates right after your workout, but if you have carbohydrates later, you replenish it just the same. In other words, it doesn't make a difference. Now, here's where it does make a difference.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Do you plan on working out again a couple hours later? In which case, then it's a good idea. I know, I know Justin, you played football for a long time. This was probably important for someone like you when you would have double days. Oh, it's absolutely essential. Yeah, yeah, I had to get that energy and, you know, carbohydrates played a massive role in that too. And this is also where like we get into talking about ice and stuff like that, like in the benefits of that, like after I would do a practice like that,
Starting point is 00:50:47 knowing full ahead of time that I was gonna have to then come back and practice again and like pound on my body again. So it made sense for me to ice and go to ice bath to then get the inflammation levels down again so that I could perform again at a higher level. And you would eat like a carb and eat a carb, definitely a heavy carb meal like in between. This is the only time that I use it was when I was competing and I knew I was going back to the gym later on. Other than that, you're splitting hairs. I mean, if you are, and if you're trapped,
Starting point is 00:51:14 and where it really matters is, if you're tracking and you're paying attention to your calorie intake and for sure protein in this case, making sure you're getting adequate protein and you're eating in a surplus of calories and you're stimulating the body correctly. So you have good programming, you're training well. Those are the main things. So as long as your daily targets are getting hit, the timing of it before after workout, that stuff is really splitting hairs and even at the highest level of competing and sculpting and shaping the body, I did not worry about none of that shit. The only time that I would make an effort is when I knew, I knew that I was scaling up
Starting point is 00:51:52 right before a show and that this is where I'm starting to head back to the gym too, sometimes even three times to do like other work, then I would make sure that I'm being fed and that before I go back into the gym again. Yeah, and now here's some of the unintended consequences of this message that's been hammered to athletes and to fitness enthusiasts. People who have a tendency towards gut issues, this is a terrible time to eat because post workout, your inflammation is higher. And when you eat, you know, a really fast digesting protein or carbohydrate shake right after you work out
Starting point is 00:52:27 and you're inflamed and your gut is inflamed, you're more likely to develop a food intolerance because when your gut is inflamed, that's when things can pass through the gut when they're not supposed to. So again, it's not that big of a deal. If you plan on working out again later than you should. I do have one more scenario
Starting point is 00:52:43 that I did use this and it just came to mind we're talking about that. So when I was trying to bulk and I had a hard time getting calories in, I found that as an opportunity, like as soon as I got done working out, I was hungry. And so I would feed myself something that was four, five hundred calories, carb, heavy. And I would find that I would be hungry still again an hour or two hours later. So it helped me stay on top, but the reason for that wasn't for the studies that support the benefits of eating right after the workout. The reason for that for me was I could get a meal in right after I get to work out.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And then I knew that by the time I got home and I took a shower, I was ready to eat another meal, which it was all about hitting my calorie target. So there, I do see strategies to eating right after a workout when you're completely depleted and you're hungry already and you're somebody who has a hard time getting enough calories, but it's really less about the timing of it after the workout and it's more about you making sure you hit your total calorie intake for the day. Next question is from Mama Penguin. What are the pros and cons of the touch and go deadlift
Starting point is 00:53:49 versus the reset? I like this question. Right now, so I have two close friends of mine that I'm teaching how to deadlift virtually, which is really fucking hard to do, by the way. And they're both experienced lifters, but they never really, both female clients, and they've lifted for a very long time,
Starting point is 00:54:10 but never really got into deadlifting in their fans of the show, and they're like, I wanna get better at it. So I have them semi-videos, and I make cues and critiques. And one of the things that everybody kind of just has a natural tendency to do is the touch-and-go method, which is a normal cadence or tempo of a movement like anything else. But I love to teach the reset completely. If you're doing five to eight reps, it doesn't matter how many reps, is you lift it or
Starting point is 00:54:40 you get in position and get everything tight tense. You lift one time, you set down completely reset. Even sometimes I have a client step away from the bar then step back up to it. And really what we're doing is we're just, we're practicing. It's like a baseball player who's getting ready to go up to the mound, right? And he's getting ready to hit
Starting point is 00:55:00 the almost every professional baseball player. You'll see before he goes to swing the bat has this weird ritual. Some of them straighten their wristband, their touch their hat, they hit their bat three times. They hit their feet and knock the dirt off. Yeah, and if you don't understand the importance of that, you might think it's kind of silly,
Starting point is 00:55:16 but you're training the brain to get into this perfect form in mechanics and it's a ritual. And so I like to reset every deadlift to reset that ritual. So it trains the body to be in that perfect position versus getting under it and you just start to get in this touch and go where what I see happens with touch and go is the breakdown of form.
Starting point is 00:55:40 So to me, this is the pros of doing single and almost anybody that I'm teaching deadlifts, this is how I want you to lift. I never like touch and go, unless you're a very advanced lifter. If you're an advanced lifter, you've got great mechanics for deadlifting, nothing wrong with doing a touch and go, but that is the only person who I am recommending that to.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yeah, touch and go can give you a little bit more explosive power with the deadlift. You can get out more repetitions typically. Here's the challenge with it, maintaining really good form. Deadlifts are very technical and it's one of those exercises. It's very safe, but if your form breaks down a little bit, it starts to become risky very quickly. That'll get away from you. Yeah, not all exercise or like this.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Some exercise you can get real loose and your risk factor's not that high. Deadlifts aren't like that. Your form starts to go off. It starts to become very risky. Now here's why, one of the other reasons why it's difficult with touch and go. Touch and go is hitting the floor.
Starting point is 00:56:39 There's almost no other exercise that does that. Like if I go up and down with the squat, I'm not banging the weights on the squat rack. I'm going down to the bottom. It's my body that stops the weight and then I go all the way up. When you're doing touch and go, it's the floor that stops the body.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You bring down the weight, you're banging it. This really can mess up people's form. So yeah, if you're advanced, you've got really, really good stable body and I never, I do touch and go sometimes. I never do touch and go with a weight that's heavy. Yeah, I mean, it's always one that's not heavy. That's a little bit challenging, but not super challenging. You know, if I'm going to do like stop, pause, deadlift, like a normal
Starting point is 00:57:18 way, I might go for 15, 455, maybe even 500, if I'm real strong. Touch and go, I rarely go above 315. For me, 315 is not heavy, and I know I can stay tight, tap the floor and come up. Yeah, I like to, I actually like touch and go, is where I like to add bands over and go through some of those like explosive reps and do that, but definitely with lightweight. I mean, it definitely, you get the momentum from it by hitting
Starting point is 00:57:45 the ground, and so this is like something to consider. It definitely is going to affect, you know, your form in performing this. So I'm totally with you guys. It's one of those things that I don't have, like, your average person do. Like, you definitely have to be pretty versed in the lift itself to be able to adjust based off of all these different factors you're gonna get hit with. Cause you know, when the weight hits the ground, it's gonna shift your weight, left to right, there's gonna be instances where your body's gonna need
Starting point is 00:58:16 to react to that and be able to stabilize properly. So if you don't have that established ahead of time, it could be detrimental. I really feel like this wasn't even a thing until CrossFit. I know, I think of that too. I don't remember anybody established ahead of time, it could be detrimental. I really feel like this wasn't even a thing until CrossFit. I think of that too. I don't remember anybody really doing touch-and-go deadlifts before CrossFit.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You have the same thing with cleans, which drives me crazy. I'm watching people do cleans back-to-back. Bodybuilders, bodybuilders, if when they did lift, which is very often, they would do a touch-and-go because it's more of a, really? Yeah, pump and squeeze the back
Starting point is 00:58:45 and you know, typical bodybuilding fashion, but it wasn't very popular. I don't know very many bodybuilders that would deadlift in their routine, but the ones that did, oftentimes they would do this touch and go where they're kind of squeezing the last and can't picture one of them doing it. Yeah, I know Ronnie Coleman did some touch and go.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Of course, great example of the risk. Obviously, the dude, not like he used to be. There were other bodybuilders. I can't think off the top of my head. Some of their names. Okay, so Ronnie Coleman, have you ever seen, his touch and go is not like the touch and go I'm thinking about right now.
Starting point is 00:59:20 His touch and go look like a very smooth, so what video is that? I'm trying to think of his, one of his videos, everything. his touch and go look like a very smooth. So what video is that? I'm trying to think of his one of his videos. What do you think when he was pulling 800 pounds? Yeah, and he would do his touch and go leading up to that big 800 set. And it's not bouncing off the floor.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I mean, he's lifting 600 pounds controlled for three to five reps. When you do a touch and go, don't bounce the weight off the floor, touch it and come up. And be careful because if one side touches before the other one you're going to get a little bit of a shift and that's one problem. And that's why I bring that up because when I think of touch and go, someone queuing that this is a touch and go deadlift like they bounce. I mean, and that's what you see a lot with crossfit.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Crossfit is really, really common to see him bouncing it off the floor. They bastard as all kinds of exercises. Thanks Crossfit is really, really common to see him bouncing it off the floor. They bastardize all kinds of exercises. Thanks, Crossfit. Next question is from DVXZX. Something a born day. Weird. What are your guys' thoughts on refeeds when dieting? I heard you talk about a study when suddenly eating more calories after or during a deficit
Starting point is 01:00:24 can lead to more fat cells, but there's also research to show that refeeds help prevent metabolic adaptation, such as a slower metabolism. Okay, there's a big difference there. They're confusing too, yeah. You're confusing two things here. When you do a refeed,
Starting point is 01:00:40 you've been in a caloric deficit for some time, whether that be three days or weeks. So the refeed is barely even gonna put you over a surplus. It doesn't necessarily mean it's all gonna be stored as body fat either, especially if you're training with that. Hopefully a lot of that gets partitioned over a billion muscle and you do get the benefits of it kicking back the metabolism.
Starting point is 01:01:00 100% on for refeeds. Literally hope, just mentioned the two clients, friends that I'm helping, one of them I'm actually helping more with diet stuff, and she's been in a calorie type of a deficit, even though I cycle her. So she's been a calorie deficit for about six weeks, but not a consistent one.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Every fourth day, she gets a refeed. So every fourth day, I put her a little bit above a maintenance, but overall, in six weeks, she's been in a pretty much a deficit. And I've noticed progress in the last week and have two weeks to stall on her. And so this whole week, I have her at a little bit of above, even maintenance, so she's in a beat. So those are all types of refeeds. So absolutely, if you stay in a caloric deficit for too long,
Starting point is 01:01:46 the body just adapts to that. It adapts and this becomes your new caloric maintenance and by doing a refeed or giving yourself a caloric surplus, it then spikes that metabolism back up and tells your body to get used to having more food. Yeah, they're confusing binging and, you know, a refeed to completely different things. Okay, so let's address the more fat cells comments.
Starting point is 01:02:09 So there's studies that show that when people eat really, really low calories for a while, and then they go off the rails and eat like crazy, which you- Competitors are notorious for this. Competitors typically you see this. Right, what the body will do is that actually, not only does it make your fat cells get bigger
Starting point is 01:02:24 because you're eating more calories, but it actually adds fat cells to your body because it's trying to figure out a way to capture all this new energy calories that are coming into the body. Now, they're totally different than a refee. Now, the other studies show that with an increase in calories, not a binge, but an increase in calories, periodically throughout a diet, people burn more body fat and preserve more muscle. I've been recommending that forever for a very, very long time. Rather than having you at a deficit all the time, we have you at deficit sometimes, and
Starting point is 01:02:56 then we have you at short periods where you eat more calories or maybe even a little bit of a surplus. Completely different strategy. And what that does, keeps the metabolism up, prevents muscle loss, and we don't see the huge metabolic adaptation in a downward fashion that we tend to see when people are just in low calories all the time.
Starting point is 01:03:15 But yeah, binging very different. And I've seen this many times, especially with competitors, where they go so strict with their diet and so starving themselves, and they walk on stage at 3% body fat and then go through the process of gaining 30 pounds in a month. Well, this is just like, we just picked on CrossFit for bastardizing exercise. This is an example where bodybuilding is bastardized refeeding.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Refeeding is a very smart strategy for people that we use with clients and have for a very long time, but the bodybuilding community has bastardized it by turning it by excusing binging. Yeah, like I have a cheat day and then it's like, you know, you go bananas. Right, or you're somebody who is stage and you're at 3% body fat, so you technically can get away with binging for fucking five days and not get fat. I mean, you're going to put on body fat and you're going to, for sure, and do exactly what Sal's saying, adding fat cells, but you're gonna take someone from 3% to 7%
Starting point is 01:04:08 who's still leaner than 95% of the population, so they get away with it. So, same thing with the analogy that Justin was giving with the crossfitters, bastardizing the deadlifts, that's what we've done with something that's a very smart, good strategy with refeed, or like we call many cuts and many bulks, I think is very, very smart, good strategy with refeed, or like we call like many, many cuts and many bulks, I think is very, very smart. But then it's been turned into this thing that excuses
Starting point is 01:04:31 people to go from a super low calorie deficit to all sudden binge eating afterwards. And that's not a real true refeed. A real true refeed is exactly what I was explaining with the girl that I'm helping right now. It's like, I'm taking her calories from low for her as 1,600 calories. Her maintenance is probably around 1,800. A refeed or a bulk is 21,2200. I mean, that's a refeed right there. I don't need to take her to 3,500 calories for 3,4 or even a week. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:05:01 That's now borderline binging. Yeah, what's interesting too is, you know, when you look at competitors who compete like bodybuilding physique and then year after year after year, you find them having more and more challenge coming in as sharp as they did before or as lean as they did before. I think this is why. I think they're 100% think this is why.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I think it's because after their shows, they binge so hard that they actually add fat cells to the body. And so over time, after three, four, five years of competing, it's harder and harder and harder for them to come in as shredded as they did before. It's a wonderful way of making getting lean way more difficult is to do this, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:43 super low calorie binge kind of cycle and model. That is a perfect example, Sal. If you are, this is a great, this is a great point. I'm talking about something like this in a long time. I saw this firsthand and if you are a competitor and every show you do, you have to do significantly more either cardio wise or calorie reduction, you are probably falling in this category.
Starting point is 01:06:06 That's why it's so difficult. If you did a good job of between shows, adding more lean mass, adding more muscle, it should be easier. It should be easier. It should be better. You should be able to get away with more calories and yet still lean down because you've built more muscle on the body. So if you're a competitor and you've noticed you've done three, four or five shows and every show it's getting harder and harder
Starting point is 01:06:30 to lean down and you're having to do longer bouts of cardio or restrict even lower calories. There's something wrong with your nutrition programming that you need to address and this is normally what it is. Yeah, you know it's interesting about this is that the there's only a few there's a few times that we know that the body adds fat cells, one of them's like puberty, third trimester pregnancies, another one, and this one, this one, this one, this is why this made such big news, is because holy cow, you can do this to yourself if you restrict super hard and then go in the opposite direction. It's a survival mechanism. It is. But yeah, the third trimester pregnancies, another one,
Starting point is 01:07:03 you'll see, you know, women who are pregnant and then they really, really go off with nutrition while they're pregnant, eat lots and lots. And they find that it's so hard for them to get back in shape. It may be because they added, they actually added fat cells. Look, mind pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube, mind pump podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You out on YouTube, Mind Pump Podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, me and Mind Pump Sal and Adam
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