Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1351: Building Muscle After 40, the Value of Push, Pull & Leg Routines, Visible Signs of Health & More
Episode Date: August 5, 2020In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about making muscle gains at 40, push, pull, and leg routines, thoughts on the statement “you can’t judge someone�...�s health by looking at them,” and how they set up the QUAH episodes. Sal’s “euphoric” concoction. (6:35) The eerie cult classic that is relevant today. (9:59) Trump “flexing” to make TikTok an American company? (13:45) Sports are back on the table, but are people watching? (15:50) The common chemicals found in sunscreen and the safe alternatives you can use. (27:51) Mind Pump LOVES Magic Spoon. (31:10) Google’s market response to education amid the pandemic. (35:04) The pursuit of fitness, done properly in a healthy way, builds and encourages the skills that make you more successful in other aspects of life. (38:59) Hardgainer Webinar airing live this week! (45:08) #Quah question #1 – How possible it is to make muscle gains at 40? (46:45) #Quah question #2 – What do you think of push, pull, and leg routines? (54:12) #Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on the statement “you can’t judge someone’s health by looking at them?” (59:09) #Quah question #4 – How do you set up the QUAH episodes? How do you set up the questions, how do you prepare your answers and when do you find out what the questions will be? (1:08:00) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Performance ½ off!! **Promo code “GREEN50” at checkout** Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! They Live (1988) - IMDb Trump says TikTok will be shut down in US on Sept. 15 Ratings Crash for NBA, MLB After Protest-Filled Debuts Another FDA study shows the body absorbs chemicals in sunscreen products Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Google will fund 100,000 career certification scholarships to help workers find jobs amid pandemic Exercise boosts satisfaction with life, researchers find Hardgainer Webinar Fabulous 40’s Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products MAPS Split | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Doug Egge (@mindpumpdoug) Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere) Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness) Instagram Paul Chek (@paul.chek) Instagram Serene Wilken (@mindful_axis) Instagram Arthur Brooks (@arthurbooks) Twitter
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In this episode of Mind Pump, the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast,
we answer questions asked by listeners and viewers like you.
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They live.
It seems to be a little relevant to today.
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You know, I did this morning that I haven't done it a while.
What?
Best combination ever.
And you know, sometimes I forget something
and re-remember it again, try it again,
and I'm like, this is one of those times.
So I go caffeine, right?
Caffeine and theanine, great combination.
Yes.
This isn't studies, by the way,
if you combine your caffeine with the amino acid,
theanine, you will have a better, more euphoric focused experience.
It's more drawn out too, which I believe.
Last longer, this is well documented.
This is a real thing.
Here's one more thing you can do
if you feel like you wanna become superhuman.
Combine it with cannabinoids.
So I took Ned this morning, did a dropperful in Ned,
coffee,
theaning.
You're just having,
like my, my total routine.
Do you do it every time now?
Yes.
Every time I have a nitro, especially, like I, you know,
I wanna ride that as long as possible
and keep it so I don't get too jacked up
into a jittery,
so like adding those together is like a beautiful couple.
I find it, yeah, I find it gets rid of the jitters
and it also eliminates the hard crash, right?
Yes, that's the big one.
So a lot of times you get,
especially when you do something strong like nitro
or you do a pre-workout,
you get this great high for your workout,
but then there's this hour, two hours later,
this hard crash.
When you got me on the Thienine
and I've also done that with the Ned,
it doesn't seem to peak with the jitteriness,
it just, you have a nice high
and then it seems like it is like mellow
and then there's no drop off.
It's kind of weird.
I'm telling you, if you want to have,
like you want to go into a business meeting
or you want to write something
or you just want to be creative, try that combination.
It's sharp and awake.
It's pretty wild and I know there's coffee companies
that are trying to combine CBD with coffee now.
It's disgusting the way they do it.
Yeah, we tried those.
Yes, I have.
I've had a few of those cans.
You can get them at like whole foods
but it's just like, they have not mastered it yet.
This is a much better option.
Now, just do the, just do the,
putting your mouth, yeah, you put it in your,
so you, when you do it,
you're supposed to leave it under your tongue for like a minute.
So like, put it under your tongue for like a minute,
then you wash it down.
Like, I don't want my whole coffee tasting like CBD.
Right.
I'm not at like that.
I've tried those two just in their garbage.
Like, I'd rather, you have one swig with it
than it's good.
Then you're done.
Yeah, and then you're done.
Now you have coffee.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
But yeah, great feeling and it lasts a long time
and it's smooth and it's euphoric is the best way
I can describe it.
Cause caffeine will get you up, but not always euphoric.
You know what I'm talking about?
That happy, good feeling.
Hey, speaking of writing,
how's the book coming along, man?
Oh good, we don't get it from you.
Yeah, we don't talk too much about it.
It's because it's a tell-all book about you guys.
I don't want to say this.
Man.
Ah.
Too much.
Yeah.
It's a lot of secrets and it's all just going to come out later.
I'll find out.
I know you guys love me no matter what, so.
It's all good.
Hey, what a conflict you're feeling.
That would be, Sal sells like a million fucking books, but then it's like shit talking about
us.
Yeah. Yeah, we're rich. Oh, fucking asshole. Sal sells like a million fucking books, but then it's like shit talking about
I feel so conflicted about you read the part about Justin clipping his toenails while they podcast
Dude there's that that movie Justin they live. Yes. Tell me that that's not relevant today. Oh my God.
What is that?
I started watching it.
It had to be like, so late 80s, like early 90s,
so it was full of it.
But yeah, this was like one of those sci-fi movies
that had rowdy, rowdy, piper in it.
You know, so it's like,
Oh, you mean the glasses?
Yeah, it was a glass.
Oh, God.
He sees these almost like zombified like alien.
People have been taking over basically right in front of everybody. And so yeah, the classic
Like I was I was chewing bubble gum and kicking ass, but I ran all out of bubble gum. No, he says as a good
I came here to do two things to bubble gum and kick ass. Thank you
Yeah, I'm all I'm bad. I'm bad at close
So it's a it's a cult classic
So it's a cult classic.
So it's not, obviously, it was made in the late 80s.
So it's a little bit cheesy.
The special effects aren't the greatest.
It's like rad.
One of the best fight scenes of any movie ever.
Not because it's like Jackie Chan, Kung Fu, whatever,
but rather because it looks like they beat this shit
out of each other.
There it is.
Like a real fight.
There's a very good fight.
So my comparison is, and I know whatever, you know,
you can conspiracy theory me all day long.
This is like the uncovering of all those fucking sick pitos.
Yeah, that's how it's like, you know, put the eyes...
Oh, you were one too, look at you.
Yeah, so essentially, you know, it's okay if I run the plot, by the way,
but he finds these glasses, puts them on,
and then as he's walking the streets,
he sees people look really fricking like weird.
It's like disturbing.
And he can't figure out what the hell's going on,
and so that's pretty much it.
I won't say much else,
but there's just like aliens that are taking over.
And my favorite part is when he puts on the glasses,
and I think he's driving or he's walking,
and he sees the billboards.
And billboards are normally like,
oh, Coca-Cola, whatever.
But instead it says consume.
Consume.
Yeah.
Oh, babe.
Oh, babe.
Yeah.
It's like, what the hell?
It's such a great experience.
I can't believe you guys remember the details of that.
I mean, I've watched that for sure a couple times as a kid,
but I can't remember for the life of me
like the details of it like that.
I've seen it.
Some styles just, you know, he has that ability.
I've seen it, no, I've seen it a good 10 times.
It was, I was great movie when I was younger.
I think I watched it first when I was like 14.
And I thought it was awesome.
And then later I watched it as an adult.
And then I feel like it's so relevant today.
Courtney makes fun of me for that kind of stuff.
Because it's cheesy, you know, and it's like it's like we grew up with Predator and we grew up with like all these like
Commando and like stuff that's like really cheesy, but like awesome, you know, this is one of those movies
You just wait till your kid your kids are like
15 16 when it's okay for them to watch some of these movies. Yeah, because now I get to sit down my son
Yeah, that's some serious. Oh, dude. We watched fight club. So he'd never seen fight club
Right, and it's a nice 15 now, so I can watch it with them. Yes, and I you know
I love watching remember the first time you watch fight club at the very end where you're like, oh shit, right?
That was my son as we're watching it first off as you go back and you see all these little blurbs of
Yeah, he caught on to it right away. He saw that right first right away as we're anything to him as we're watching it first off, as you go back and you see all these little blurbs of yeah, he cut on to it right away He saw that right first right away as we're anything to him as we're watching goes. Why is it?
Why is there a guy flashing?
I'm like, oh, I don't notice that
And then we watched alien the first alien next is gonna be total recall already seen predator with them classic
Ah, it's a good I get to watch him again
I know it's great that he's actually like them to he does. Oh, that's good
He likes he likes him for the same reasons I did which really you know, it's just you know
It's like cool. You you are my kid. I was just hit like he's your son. Yeah, cuz if he didn't I'd have I'd be like
We're gonna do a blood test cuz yeah
Yeah, well, what do you guys what do you guys think about Trump banning TikTok? Oh, yeah, see I don't know
Man, I had this feeling that especially with the military already like you know restricting
Anybody there from using it. I'm like this is only a matter time before the general public
I'm sure they're gonna crack down and the only way out of that is if American company buys it,
and I know that Microsoft is bidding for it right now.
Oh, are there?
Yes.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, you didn't know that.
Oh, yeah.
So that's the one way it won't get banned in the US
is if a American company buys it, and right now,
you've got Microsoft that's bidding for it,
which is interesting in itself too,
because we talk about, you know,
that we just had that big hearing for all the big tech companies.
I do.
Obviously Microsoft wasn't involved with that because they don't do things like all these
social media platforms.
They won't have data.
Did you see when they were asking them all, they're like, so are you aware that China, you know,
copies and infringes on copyright and all of them were like, oh, no, that's not personal experience.
Yeah, I'm not aware.
I've never seen it.
And then they get to Zuckerberg and Zuckerberg's like,
yeah, that happens.
China steals.
He stole things.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, probably because Facebook's banned in China.
Yeah, I'm sure.
You know what?
So here, there's two different ways to look at this.
One way is to say, well, yeah,
it tick-tock is being used to collect information
on people. They're up through a backdoor way of taking advantage of the fact that we
have open markets that were relatively, definitely very free compared to them. And so,
Communist China has this social media thing. Now, they can have all this information.
The other way to look at it is that Trump is using China fears to turn a company into
an American company.
You know what I'm saying?
So there's both angles, I guess.
That's what I text you.
I feel like this is another maneuver by him.
Like what he did with the tariffs and so on that.
It's like a flex to get something else that he wants.
That's what I feel like is happening.
Like he's threatening to ban it.
Yeah, definitely be a motivation.
Unless you make it American.
Yeah.
I don't know how I feel about that.
Yeah, freedom fries. Yeah how I feel about that. Freedom fries.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Dude, so I read this article about, I don't watch sports, but this is kind of big news right now.
You're gonna bring out the NBA.
Well, both NBA and the MLB, they've had a few games now, right?
Now, I read an article that listed how many viewers
watched the opening games, and then it listed
how many viewers came back to watch more.
And the ratings were first off underwhelming
with how many were supposed to show up considering
there's been no sports, nobody's doing anything.
They think they'd be a frenzy.
They expected like more people,
still the initial numbers seem to be good,
but just under perform what they expected,
but the ratings dropped considerably after that first game.
What are your beliefs?
Cause you know, part of me's like,
well, there's no fans.
They went too proud on the political side.
Very hard.
Is that what you think it is?
They went way too.
Especially the NBA versus the MLB.
Like you just don't see as much of the, you know,
what they're trying to promote.
They went way hard on the political side.
They did.
And that's why you think a lot of people turned it off.
I mean, that's why my friends that are on the conservative side
of the fence did.
I mean, I've got four or five buddies that all,
we're all in sport.
We're all in fantasy leagues.
The other, we all talk sports when we were all excited
for to start up and it was just a little heavy
on that side more than I think anybody.
And I think we all anticipated it to be a little bit
which I think was okay, but they went,
they NBA above every other professional sport team
or organization, they went harder than anybody else did.
And I think that's what turned off a lot of
viewers. Well, the NBA had the biggest drop bigger than the MLB. And they were the hardest on it.
Yeah. Everybody else that MLB was second in line to that. And then you had other sports.
Well, actually, I might be wrong. Check this out. So the LA, the Lakers and Clippers, this is the
initial game, right? The opening, that was one of the opening games of micro S. Okay.
There's a second of the opening. Okay. First one was the jazz game, right? The opening, that was one of the opening games of micro-apps, like, okay. There's a second of the opening.
It's the first one was the jazz game,
which was earlier in the day, which is why.
That one was lower because, well, one,
it's also jazz and pelicans, which is less popular.
Those are two great, don't get me wrong.
Good tease, but yeah, less popular.
Well, so check this out.
This is the opening game,
and I think they expected NBA finals type numbers.
When the finals are on,
you're seeing five to six million
viewers is what I looked up.
So the opening was 3.4 million for Lakers Clippers
and 2.1 million for Pelican Jazz.
Then when they came back and had the Celtics and Bucks
and Mavs and Rockets.
Which are all the next days.
It went down to 1.3 and 1.7.
So that's a huge drop.
Yeah, cutting half.
Almost, right?
For baseball, Yankees Nationals was 4 million
and the Dodgers Giants 2.8,
that went down to less than a million
for the Metz and Braves, just a million for the Brewers and Cubs
and under 800,000 for the angels
in the ass of drop.
Huge drop.
And so, but you know, there's a few factors I think we need to consider.
One is...
No crowd.
Well, first off, there were no sports for a while, so I think everybody expected huge audience.
Well.
But then there's no crowd.
Like, did they have those like those kind of cardboard cutouts?
Well, they actually did, the NBA did something really interesting.
They had where the fans would be.
They had a massive digital screen.
And then there was what looked like real people streaming in.
And then they have these massive speakers that were putting off the sound of like what a crowd would be.
Now that alone, forget everything else.
Did that make you feel like you were watching a normal game?
I mean, yeah, no, it definitely, very similar make you feel like you were watching a normal game?
I mean, yeah, no, it definitely, very similar to what I said about the watching UFC,
there's, it feels a little practice-esque.
I mean, you can hear the guys in the court talking to each other, like that you couldn't
ever hear that.
The crowd would be so loud.
You can hear everything.
Yeah, so, you know, somebody who's played, like you, that's nice, right, to be able to
talk to my players or my teammates and let them know, oh, back door, back door, you know, somebody who's played, like you, that's nice, right? To be able to talk to my players or my teammates and let them know, oh, back door, back door,
you know, and things like that, you now get to hear that as a fan.
So you can hear the conversation or the yelling back and forth amongst teammates on the
court.
So does give a different fill.
And it just didn't quite have the same, and NBA is a sport of runs.
The whole game is back and forth.
Right. There's a lot of runs. The whole game is back and forth.
There's a lot of runs that happen in the NBA,
and I feel like it, and what I'm really curious to see,
I told Katrina this, I was like,
you know, I can't wait to see the numbers on point scored.
My theory is that because the crowd plays
such a big factor with runs and excitement,
that we will see an at total scoring going down.
That's my that's my that's my theory, but we won't know that until we have enough games
under our belt to like see a real good snapshot.
Okay, well, so so there's that.
And then the other side of it that I've been reading as people are saying that it was
just too, too political or too politicized, which it could be that a lot of people disagreed with their
stance or maybe a lot of people were like, I don't want to get my politics when I'm getting
what's working.
Yeah, even if you agreed with it, it's just like, you got bombarded with it.
I mean, it's on the court.
It's like the commercials.
You just don't get a break from it.
It's interesting that they decided to go so hard with it.
Yeah, and you think that that, because a lot of people are saying that that's... Well, that's the reason why I turned it off.
I turned it off because it was too much for me.
And that was similar to my buddies that were watching.
They all kind of felt the same way.
It's like, listen man, like, again, just like you said,
I'm not against, like everyone is to each their own,
but when I watch sports, that's my time.
I mean, I tease you all the time, right?
That politics is sports for nerds.
I don't want to now include my politics
with my sports.
My money and that's part of the experience.
Yeah, I want to watch.
I want to watch.
You want to get away and have fun.
In politics, it's stressful.
Yeah, so it's like, we get that enough in our Facebook.
Well, that's exactly what happened.
So what did it end up doing?
Is it sparked?
Like, so I have these threads of of my buddies that I grew up with
that threat is like dedicated to good sports shit talking.
But that's all we do.
Your team is playing the other guys that are not,
the other two guys that are not fans of that team
talking shit.
Oh, what a terrible pass.
Oh, LeBron, you know what I'm saying?
And it's great fun for us.
But it turned, we stopped talking about the game
and it all suddenly turned into all this political ship
and sending articles back and forth.
And it's like, yeah, because you have a mix of friends.
You have friends that are conservative
and friends that are very liberal.
I have, yeah, I have hard left.
I have hard right.
I have kind of in the middle where I feel like I've kind of fall.
And for me, it's like, I want to separate those.
We have fun getting
into political stuff. So we have our threads where we're talking politics, which is great.
I think it's healthy, especially when you have friends on both sides. I think it's a great
way to dialogue. And then we have like our sports stuff, but it bled into our sports conversations.
Like, I don't want to talk about this stuff right now. Yeah. I want to, I want to talk
about a game and talk about what we're seeing on the court. And that, that's my reason.
And here's another reason why I think that this is true is because Luke would happen with
USC.
USC had some record breaking viewership on their, their fight car.
And it was all about the fight.
Right.
It was about the fight.
There was nothing, nothing political in it whatsoever.
It was all about the sport and it crushed.
Yeah. And I think that they did, they went a little hard.
Do you think it was the players that were pressuring the organization a bit to kind of really
promote, you know, the, you know, the political atmosphere?
I think there was both. Yeah.
Yeah, I think it was both.
I think the, I think the, the NBA, obviously, I mean, they, I mean, they've painted the court.
They, I'm sure they have some sort of say in some of the advertising and the commercials that
come through.
I think it's a little bit of both.
I mean, obviously what the players and the coaches do with getting together and kneeling,
that's on them.
They decided to do that.
I don't think the NBA said do it or don't do it.
They said they support whatever.
So that the players made that call and that decision.
But I mean, how they view it, I mean, how they shoot it in film it, what the announcers
talk about, the commercials that are played, like, I mean, I'm sure that they have a positive
decision.
Well, this is a market-based organization.
So they're going to have to do what the, or fail.
Well, yeah.
So we'll see if it continues that way, if they keep getting crap, if it starts affecting paychecks all around, it'd be interesting
to see how they, you know, if they keep it going or pivot. Well, here's on the flip side.
Tom Brady apparently was hitting golf balls in the woods, got 5.8 million viewers. So
he got more, he got far more viewers than the opening day of both the, you know, the
other thing is to, and to,
you know, when you talk about there's lots of other factors, there is the, the, that, like,
even myself being a huge sports fan and even bigger NBA fan, I had to, I was reminded
by one of my good buddies that, you know, it was opening day coming back up because I've
just, you know, the season, to me, the the seasons over, and most fans that are, that are big NBA fans will put an asterisk by the season
no matter what, because it's already there's, you know, or way late.
Yeah, it's so late already, they're doing this kind of like, you know, quarter season
real quick to get to the, to get to the playoffs. There's team like the warriors are not
even, and you won't see any warriors playing basketball this year. They're already eliminated
from that. So they eliminated like the bottom, not even in you won't see any warriors playing basketball this year they're already eliminated from that so they eliminated like the bottom I think
10 teams are already eliminated from playing games right now anyway so there's going to there's
there's other factors you know so you got to you got to think that if your teams one of the
10 teams that's not playing right now those people are probably carved off right away there's
probably a bunch of people that are like this is not even a real season so even no matter
who wins this championship I'm not going to count it in my book.
So there's other factors. So we might be being deceived a little bit that there's one thing
or another. Right. That it's all these two million people turned it off because it's
political. I don't know. That's my experience with my group of friends that decided to
not watch it. That was the reason being, but that might not be everybody. That might be
that just because it's just a weird thing.
Common sense though would say that with people thirsty
for entertainment, thirsty for distraction, sports are excellent at that, right?
People aren't really going anywhere.
You know, you would think that that something is popular as the NBA and the MLB
that you would have in explosion of your ship. Like you said,
UFC had record numbers. So it is interesting. I think we should keep watching to see what the
market says and how they respond to it because here's the position there. And now if the ratings
continue to suck, now the NBA is in a look like what they're in between a hard rock and a hard
place. They're committed. Like now it's like, do we switch gear? Now we look bad.
Now they can't. They got to ride it out. Yeah, they're committed now. They're
committed to that. I think they would look worse if they waved the other way.
Because then it looks like it was always bullshit. Yes. It was always bullshit.
You're doing it just thinking that you're you thought you were with the
majority by by accepting or adopting
all this.
And then now you go, so they won't waver.
They'll stick it through.
But what you might see is you maybe we'll see like back off a little bit on the commercials,
the advertising, maybe you'll hear less of the announcers, maybe even how they shoot
the game.
Like they put a lot of attention on the way they shot it.
There was a lot of, I mean, I've watched the NBA for, you know, over two decades. And I've, unless it's a championship
game, you don't even normally even see the players for the national anthem. They don't know right.
Shoot that. Yeah, but it's just the experience you see as you're at the game. Yes. Yeah.
But if you're a viewer on TV, the ever televised.
So this time it was focused on that?
Oh, yeah, big time.
So, you know, that's just, I mean, to me,
that's like, okay, that's different.
That's definitely different.
And they're shooting, they can very easily allow
that support that let it happen,
but then not put all this emphasis on shooting it.
So we might see some subtle changes like that.
That's what I'll be interested to see if they try
and do that, like maybe not highlight it
as much as they did.
It'll be interesting.
Wow.
Well, let's see what happens.
Hey, I read an interesting article
about the chemicals that are found in sunscreen,
the common chemicals.
So, you know how sunscreen prevents sunburn, right?
There are chemicals in there that absorb the UV rays.
That's what we hope is happening.
Yeah. And well, there was a study that came out that showed that these chemicals accumulate
at very high amounts in the body. So it goes, we were told that these particular chemicals
don't accumulate to dangerous levels or cause issues.
Well, now studies are showing that they accumulate at very high levels in the body.
Here are the ingredients.
You find this in most sunscreens.
I hope I'm pronouncing them right.
One is Avobenzone, Oxybenzone, Octocrylene, Homoelate, octoselate, and octanoxate.
They found that they led to...
Rural natural items.
They found that using these led to maximum plasma concentration rates ranging from 3.3 nanograms
per milliliter to 258 depending on the chemical and whether or not it was applied between the lotion and skin.
Now here's the thing, the FDA says that it shouldn't go above
0.5.
So on the low end, they found that it went up to three.
On the low end, anything above 0.5 is above
the FDA safety threshold.
How crazy is that?
Especially when you're just
lathering it all over your body.
Now, that's what the FDA was out there.
How does something like that get through that's more than five times stronger
than what it's allowed?
This was a recent study that came out that said,
Hey, um, uh, looks like these are accumulating in the body.
I think previous studies didn't look at this necessarily.
Oh, maybe it was just like the initial.
So the initial might be under 0.5,
but it builds up, say you're on the beach
for three days in a row,
lathering up five times.
And it goes way above the FDA,
what the FDA has deemed as safe.
Now I stopped using chemical sunscreens a long time ago.
I don't, I haven't used them in years.
So what is the safe alternative for someone like Justin
who right now looks scared of death? Yeah, I feel like, I haven't used them in years. So what is the, what is the safe alternative for someone like Justin who right now
looks scared of death?
Yeah, I'm like, oh shit, do I gotta look like that?
Idiot guy with the zinc everywhere.
Cause I'm, I'm, I'm trying out this ass to Zanthan thing
and, and like hoping for the best
and to see if that actually has, you know,
some kind of, you know, benefit to it.
But at the same time, I'm like, I have to put it on.
I'm a burnt.
Yeah, so zinc or titanium are the safe alternatives.
You don't wanna get nano-particular,
you know, not where they crush the zinc so small
that actually absorbs in your skin.
But those sunscreens are different
because they don't absorb the UV rays, they reflect them out.
Now, the drawback is even the good ones. You're gonna have a little bit of a white
Sheen to your body when you put them on, but dude, I would not mess with the chemical ones
Yeah, at all because when they accumulate in the body they have hormonal potential hormonal effects
Dude on the body. Yeah, so ghosted out at the upbeat. Shoot another
Another product that has been used forever
that we're now finding a more harm than good. I know you left. So you left early last week.
And so I don't think you saw this. I think Rachel posted the clip that I had sent over.
But I came in or this was I think Thursday late afternoon. I'm getting ready to leave here.
And I see that magic spoon has sent like two like massive cases that have like, you
know, 10 cases each of the boxes of cereal in there.
Oh, is this where you fuck with Justin?
Yeah.
And I go, no, he, I come out there.
And here's, I see Justin walking out, fucking carrying this, like, handful of all the
blueberry and free.
He went through all the cases and plucked all the blueberry flavor.
Yeah, yeah, all out of it. It leaves us with the other flavors.
Sneaky and I was telling Doug I was like this son of a bitch right?
We're going through it. It's like he went picked out all the good flavors.
So I was like, let me open up this other case and see what's in there.
And that opened their case and it's full with peanut butter.
Which I know he's got the gold. I know he still hasn't had the peanut butter.
I mean, you tasted it. Yeah. so mad. I said, I still dug.
I was like, ah, this asshole tried to go in
and take care of it.
He missed the whole thing.
Doug said, he almost ate like the whole box of it too.
What you didn't sit in.
Hey, what did you think of it, Doug?
You like, it was great.
Yeah, the peanut butter's fire, right?
Is that weird?
There's no sugar in it, but it tastes the way it does.
Oh man.
I couldn't stop.
I just kept pouring bowl after bowl.
That's a magic engineering.
So you know that they have new flavors coming, right?
What are they?
Yeah, they have strawberry,
and then what's the other one they have coming right up?
And the strawberry is supposed to have
like little chunks of strawberry in it.
Oh wait, didn't they say peaches and cream?
I like strawberries.
Wasn't that the other one?
Yeah, that's another one that's coming out.
Oh, dude, welcome in.
I'm excited for the next trick.
So now you guys do, you guys do realize that
by eating 10 servings,
kind of negate the, you eliminate the benefit
of eating a lean-out sugar.
You gotta really figure out how it tastes.
That's a texture.
You gotta get used to it.
That's not necessarily true.
I think I calculated out one day,
like what if I ate this whole box?
It's not as bad as you,
it's not like eating a bag of potato chips.
That's for damn sure.
But is like 100 grams of protein?
Yeah, it's a pretty damn big serving of protein for sure.
That's too much.
I mean, I already have more than one serving.
I mean, what they put on cereal boxes,
any cereal box, whether it's a, you know,
quote unquote, healthy or regular cereal,
is always like, who the fuck eats two thirds of cup?
You know, say to a cereal like that's kind of weak sauce.
Yeah, that's a tease.
Yeah, when I was a kid, now it eats cereal,
it was always a punch ball.
Yeah, it was never, it was never an upgis.
It's the serving bowl.
But imagine you put popcorn in.
Imagine when this, so one of my favorite
serial's growing up was Captain Crunch
when they started to make the little strawberry fricking.
The crunch berries?
Yes.
Oh really?
I just like the,
so imagine when this strawberry drops and you have peanut butter
and you can sprinkle some of the strawberry flavor.
So if you don't get the roof of your mouth tore up,
that was the worst.
I can't wait for it.
Do you guys think that happens because the Captain Crunch's like call to fame was the fact
that it stayed crunchy and milk?
So whatever they put in there, whatever chemical shit-short-redded your mouth.
Yeah, they put in there, also destroyed your gums and your teeth.
I don't even think about that
Is that the reason why it was like that because that's my guess that's a good call. It did stay crunchy
It did it did it stayed crunchy longer than other didn't get soggy. Yeah, but you know
It's too big about that broke up with a girlfriend over soggy
Serial did you really yeah, what happened? I don't know. I was just frustrated because like we were having this fight over the phone
And I just made myself a bowl of cereal and then it like by the time we're like done fight
I was like, you know what? Like it's not worth it. I like hung up on her and I just can't eat my cereal
This real is just isn't worth a bowl of soggy cereal. That's how important it was for you. That should be your high
That should be a quote
You ruined my frosted flake.
You're so dramatic that it was so bad.
I got so mad.
That's a real story.
Yeah, you know what?
I never had soggy serics.
I ate it at the decent speed.
Like if you ate your cereal so damn slow, it got soggy.
It's your fault.
I was my belief.
You deserve to have soggy cereal at that point.
Anyway, did you hear about Google's career certificates?
What? Oh,
education. Oh,
are they moving the education? I think doing what we were talking about.
I think we predicted this. Yeah.
I think so. Um,
you can get a Google career certificate that will help you get qualified for
high paying, high growth job fields job fields, no college degree required,
and in at Google,
they will treat these career certificates
as the equivalent of a four-year degree for related roles.
Wow.
Yeah, dude.
Isn't that great?
I mean, for sure,
you're gonna see all the other big companies follow.
Don't you think so?
Oh, they gotta be competitive, dude.
It's, this is, we talked about this.
This is for sure a market response
because a 40 degree takes forever.
You're taking a lot of stuff that maybe
you don't need for a specialized role.
Why aren't companies gonna compete like this?
I could see Apple doing this.
I could see Facebook start doing this.
Oh man.
And these certificates take way less time
or far less expensive.
I think it's gonna be a freaking amazing thing. and these certificates take way less time or far less expensive.
I think it's gonna be a freaking amazing thing.
I had such a long conversation with a bunch of people
we were at this party and it was all about education
because we talked about forever.
It's completely changing from every facet of education.
It's crazy to watch it all right now.
What time we're in, where kids are like,
we're all trying to figure this out and piece it together
and I've heard strategies from different parents
and it's very, very interesting.
So here it is.
Tell me this is not gonna,
like if this goes out and this starts to like spread
with other big companies,
tell me this isn't gonna destroy private education.
Like expensive, you know, 100% going to totally disrupt that whole thing.
Well, check this out. First of all, you can get a scholarship, right? So Google can actually
can tell you, hey, we're going to give you this certificate. But if they don't, each specialization
certificate costs $49 a month. Okay. Number one, number two, this is just with Google. Google
has established hiring pipelines with big name employers, so cognizant,
Hulu, K4 Sprint, et cetera, right?
Upon completion of these certificates,
you'll have the option to share your certificate
with those employers.
So now those employers are gonna look at those as well.
Beautiful.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, just thinking about that,
do the math on this.
How many people work for Amazon?
How many people work for Facebook? How many people work for Amazon? How many people work for Facebook?
How many people work for Google?
How many people work for Apple?
And if they all-
This is real job placement.
And if they all jump on board,
what will that look like statistically?
Yeah, and it's like, we're going to these institutions
to get in like serious debt just to dig our way out
where this is like, you can, you know,
directly go to these companies
and then you have opportunities right away.
You don't get yourself in massive debt. Dude, it gets better, okay? This is like, you can, you know, directly go to these companies and then you have opportunities right away.
You don't get yourself in massive debt.
It gets better, okay.
Jobs, these are some of the, some of the courses they have.
Job specializations include data analyst, IT support specialist, project manager, manager
and UX designer.
Ready for this?
Each specialization will take three to six months to complete.
That's it.
No experience is required to enroll, and the corresponding jobs have a minimum medium salary
of $50,000.
So here you are, three to six months later, you get a certificate that Google will now treat
as a four year degree, and their other employers that they work with will treat it like a degree.
That's amazing.
You come out 49 bucks a month, so what's 49 times,
so what's 50 times six was that three no bucks.
And then you got it potentially,
you could qualify for a job.
No, no, it's a different one.
And in a year to two years time,
you could have all of them.
You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna see if my kid, if there's a major,
yeah, how young he can be this dude.
I'm gonna be like, hey man, you know,
especially for someone like your kid
Who's like so ahead of it is so ahead of his age, right tell me that's not amazing if other companies start to do this
There's everybody's gonna be I mean this is a good thing. I think I think it's a really good thing
I think this is gonna be a very very good thing. So exciting. Yeah, anyway, dude
I I did a post actually I had a thought process that led to a post
a post, actually I had a thought process that led to a post about the personal growth that fitness encourages and people when they stick to it long enough and do it for the
right reasons and follow it in a healthy way.
And I was thinking about some of the studies that I've read on.
Have you guys seen the studies on people who exercise and eat right and their rates of
success in marriage, their rates of success in marriage, their rates of
success in business and so on.
Have you guys seen that?
I have not.
It looks like.
So, people who are who have high satisfaction with their career, people who earn more money
than the average person, that's the other one, and people who tend to have high satisfaction
with their families and marriage,
a much higher percentage of those people
exercise on a regular basis
and prioritize a healthy diet.
So that we've known for a long time.
And the argument was,
oh, well, those people are already,
you know, they've got good practices,
obviously the successful business and will life.
So it only makes sense that they would prioritize
fitness and health. I think that the opposite obviously the successful business in life, so it only makes sense that they would prioritize fitness
and health.
I think that the opposite may also play a role,
which is the pursuit of fitness done properly
in a healthy way builds and encourages the skills
that make you more successful in other aspects of life.
Well, there's so many parallels.
We talked about this a while back, right?
Where I, I speculated that a majority of that is,
or the thing that I think is in common,
is if you go to the gym or you exercise and diet,
you're growth-minded.
You're trying to improve yourself.
So that, that characteristic alone,
it probably is a indicator of someone
that is more likely to be successful in relationships
and business. If you're a growth-minded person, I mean, that's one of my favorite attributes of
someone like Katrina and it's why our relationship, even though you were 10 years deep in, continues
to be better today than it was the first day we started dating was because we continue to grow
each other, both of us, right so and we care about that
That's important to each of us
So I think that has a big factor to play on why why these people and
One of the things you learn in fitness
Really quick after you've been doing it is that it's a slow process
Mm-hmm, and there's a lot of failures along the way and it's and then consistency is so important and set back is part of it.
So which parallels life, business, relationships, and everything else.
That's exactly what it is in my opinion.
And I think that you're not born, growth-minded or fixed-minded.
It's something that you can train, develop, you can change, how you view things.
And the reason why I think fitness is such an effective way to do this is because your
guard is down. You're not going in to work out and think to yourself, I'm way to do this is because your guard is down.
You're not going in to work out and think to yourself, I'm going to totally change my
mindset.
I'm going to totally change.
Oftentimes I just want to get in better shape.
I want to maybe lose some weight and get fit.
Then you stick to it long enough and here's some of the stuff that you figure out.
This is all what determines a growth mindset.
You learn how to persevere in the face of failure.
If you work out long enough
and you try to fix your nutrition,
you are going to fail a lot, especially in the beginning.
And if you stick to it,
you learn how to persevere with those failures.
Here's another one.
Effort is required to build new skills.
That's all fitness is.
All fitness is is you go in and you try and you suck
and then you go in the next time and you still suck,
but maybe less a little bit and you keep going,
keep going, keep going, keep going.
And eventually you learn that, hey, you know what?
If I put some effort in, I can learn some new skills.
Here's another one.
You find inspiration in other people's success.
Here's what I notice with people in fitness.
When they first start working out,
they might be a little bit like,
oh, that person is just genetically gifted.
But if you stick to it long enough,
you know what you end up doing?
You end up respecting people.
Of course, you'd have good fitness.
This is a breakthroughs all the time.
Yes.
And I think too,
and this kind of goes back to the whole belief system.
Like you come in believing you're something.
Like I was, I had all these factors
that were given to me at birth that like I'm trying
to overcome where, and you also find out
that you can break through, like say you're a hard gainer
or say you're something that like,
well I just can't build muscle, but like really you haven't
like put that to the test.
You haven't done all those little steps
that will actually get you to break through.
Now a sudden, wow, I can build muscle,
I can break through.
Absolutely, here's the last one that I think is so powerful.
You learn to accept criticism.
And people who've been working out for a long time,
know exactly what I'm talking about.
But if you're new, you might think,
well, what do you mean by that?
As you're doing this process,
if you are to stick to it long enough,
you have to be able to learn how to
criticize yourself and accept it and not be this devastating thing. You also, when you meet
other people that work out, can talk with each other about technique and form and how this
might not have worked or whatever. And rather than taking it personally, like when I
first started working out, if you came up to me and said, Hey, Sal, you need to develop
this more than the other
because you're not looking balanced.
Oh, I would have crushed me.
Today, if I'm working out with one of you guys
and you say that, it's like, okay,
because we're all in this together,
we understand the process.
So it's one of the best ways to enter into personal growth.
And I think a big one is because it's unassuming.
You don't even know what's happening until it's too late
and then you've become...
It's hard too.
And I think that's what makes it so great
when you talk about things like a relationship
and business, because that's hard.
You know, living with someone the same person
for the rest of your life is an easy.
I don't care how great or how much work.
Yeah, it's work.
And you have to end, there's a lot of ups and downs,
and it's working through all that
that makes a really strong relationship.
And the same thing goes for business.
Business is hard.
There's a lot of setbacks in life.
There's a lot of things that happen
that you would never foreseen like you have to learn
to enjoy it.
Yeah, and adapt.
You have to learn to adapt.
So there's so much, I think,
so many parallels in training your body
that you start to see in an unfold that parallel real life.
Totally.
And speaking of, you mentioned hardgainers, Jason.
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When's the next two, Doug?
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First question is from Daniel Mesa,
one, how possible is it to make muscle gains at 40?
Oh gosh.
So here's the thing. So I trained a lot of people towards the end of my career as a trainer.
That were in advanced stage, which I believe is classified as like over 65.
I'd say we need advanced stage now.
No, we're not.
No, I'm just gonna use the...
I'm like, man.
That was me the last time I said that.
Let's just snuck up on us.
No, I'm using that as an example
because that's way older than 40.
So these are typically,
it's considered anybody over 65 in a fitness context.
And I would say towards the end of my career,
a good 35% of my clients were over the age of 65, so I had a lot of experience
training them, and they would often ask me the same question
except they were 70 or 80.
Sal, can I get stronger at 75 years old,
or can I build muscle at 75?
The day your body loses its ability to adapt to stress,
is the day you're dead, okay?
So you never lose the ability to adapt to exercise.
Now, your potential can definitely change.
You're not gonna be able to get as strong
at 70 as you can at 20.
40, yeah, there's a little bit of a difference,
but not much.
There's not much of a difference.
Well, I think there's a big difference
in when we're comparing these two things, right?
Like a 40 year old who is starting their fitness journey
for the first time ever at 40 versus somebody
who's trained off and on for a really long time
and maybe they've been off for five years
and they're training at 40.
Because something that I'm finding getting closer
to 40 right now is, yeah, it's harder to get in the gym and lift and
I have the aches and the pains and I have these and maybe like testosterone levels are
starting to slowly decline in comparison to what I was when I was 20.
So there's those factors.
But then there's the positive factor for someone like me who's lifted for so long that
I definitely feel like if I get in the gym and I start touching weights again, my body
remembers really quick.
So it depends on the 40 year old that I'm talking to.
Am I talking to a 40 year old who's never lifted weights before
or am I talking to a 40 year old who has lifting experience?
They just haven't got back on the wagon, right?
Well look, Doug is a great example.
Doug came to me as a client and he was a self described
hardgainer, says, oh, all I do is gain body fat.
I follow every routine.
I've been consistent forever.
The guy was working out since he was in his 20s.
He came to me in his late 40s and through changing the way he trained and training him properly,
he didn't just get in good shape.
He got in the best shape of his life.
In fact, if you're watching this on YouTube, we'll have Andrew post up his before and after.
So you can see what he looked like
in his late 40s and you'd be blown away.
So I hate saying that, yeah, you might notice some decline.
Here's the people that might notice declines.
The people that are at a super high level all the time.
Everybody else, you're probably not gonna notice
because you'll notice more is, am I inconsistent?
Is my diet poor? am I getting bad sleep.
Now if you're like at a top level,
you know, in your mid 20s, 30s and 40s,
then I've been consistent all the time for a long time.
I'm being super consistent with diet and exercise.
I notice a little bit of decline.
Would I notice that at all if I was in and out?
I don't think so.
It's all about the other factors that make this. Yeah was in and out? I don't think so. It's
all about the other factors that make this.
Yeah, there's other things too though. I feel like we have to defend somebody who's 40
plus that's getting in the finish. Where you're at at 40 years old, there's other factors
beside. I know the question is probably geared towards hormonally and your body's ability
to adapt and all that stuff is fairly close to the same or equal,
and I agree with you.
But then, when you're four days,
you've probably been married, have kids.
Those are like, yeah, you have real established patterns.
Work, hardware patterns.
Right, work is a huge priority.
When you're 22, as long as you get your studying in
for the week, for your test scores,
the rest of the time,
can be focused on yourself
and training.
That's a big difference.
So I think that you have to give them some sort of credit
or that it's a little more challenging
for someone who's starting at 40 late in their life
who has all these other habits established.
But good habits, right?
Working and doing those things are important.
This is also why, and you address this in the hardgainer webinar with Doug and everything like this is
also why I find a full body routine to be so superior is a guy who's trying to get into it or
even a girl for that matter that's trying to get into fitness at 40 years old or older and is
trying to follow these kind of body parts split routines where they need to train four, five, six days a week and be consistent in doing that while all these other factors
are in play.
And you don't have the experience of lifting four definitely can be challenging versus
somebody who is lifting a full body routine that maybe only needs to commit to three days
inside the gym.
A lot of people can make that commitment and be consistent about it.
And if they do miss a day, it's not as detrimental to them
as far as their progress as it is for somebody
who's doing a split routine.
You know what's funny is now that you brought up men
and women, you made me think of something.
The most fit women I've ever trained in my life,
most, okay, most women that hire trainers are usually,
because personal training is expensive,
usually in their 30s or older.
You rarely ever get a 20-something-year-old client
who hires you just because they don't have the finances
to afford paying $50 to $100 an hour.
So most of the female clients are over the age of 30,
I would say.
And comparing my female clients in their 30s
to the ones in their 40s,
the ones in the 40s got better shape. And it's not because of the age, it's because I think when the women were in their 30s to the ones in their 40s, the ones in their 40s got better shape.
And it's not because of the age,
it's because I think when the women
were in their 40s, their kids were older,
they're not having kids anymore.
Then they became more focused.
Whereas the moms that I had that were in their 30s,
it was harder for them to juggle time and scheduling,
and then they got little kids,
which takes up more time.
So I think that's the biggest factor
is the time stuff and the responsibility.
I've also noticed too,
like even depending 40, 50, 60 year olds that I've trained
that haven't even lifted weights before ever,
they get those new be gains.
It's definitely something that still happens.
It's this phenomenon of your body's like,
wow, what is this?
It's a brand new stimulus.
So there is a bit of momentum there in the beginning,
so it does kind of help give you a little bit
of a lift initially.
Yeah, and here's the big thing.
The older you get, this is a good, this is kind of cool.
The older that you get, if you're consistent
with exercise, the further away you are from your peers.
The more, the better.
So in other words, if you were to compare yourself
to your peers and you're a 20-year-old
and you work out and you're comparing yourself to other 20-year-olds, you don't really work
out, there's a little bit of a difference.
When you're 40, that difference is much bigger.
And the older you get, the bigger that difference gets to the point where when you get to your
60s and 70s, if you're exercising consistently, you are independent, they aren't.
They can't even take care of themselves half the time, and you're fully independent.
So that's one of the good things about getting older.
You take care of yourself, you maintain a level of fitness that just totally separates
you from your peers.
It really is like one of the grasses greener than their side, because at that age it just
presents different challenges, right?
I feel like that they're sure there are some challenges, but it's different than what it was at 2530. So both equally difficult to build muscle.
You gotta be a bit smarter with your approach. Right.
Right. Next question is from Magnetic Beauty 101.
What do you think of push, pull, and leg routines?
Well, this is a perfect transition from that question, right? Because this is what I love this
type of routine. I follow this a lot. Like this works for me.
But if I have a challenge with it, it's if I'm having a hard time being really consistent with a gym.
If you're somebody who religiously hits the gym four times or five times a week,
can you never miss a day? Then yeah, there's nothing wrong with a routine like this. I think it's a
great routine. If you're getting to every muscle group two to three times a week and you're doing that
consistently, I think there's a lot of value in training this way.
As I've gotten older and other priorities in my life with business and family, it's become
harder and harder for me to train four, five days a week really consistently to run a
routine like this.
And so I'm back to running a more full body type of routine and it just serves me better.
I know that I had a rough week just two weeks ago where I only trained once.
You know, and if I only trained once, I wouldn't want to land on just a, you know, just a leg day or just a, you know,
chest and back day and then I missed the other body parts.
Like at least I got a full body routine.
My body did not miss getting stimulated.
My entire body didn't get miss stimulated
that previous week just because I was inconsistent
with everything else.
Yeah, so for those of you listening
who don't aren't familiar with what this type of routine is,
so it's a type of a split routine
where you break the body up into body parts
and you train different body parts on different days.
So a push day refers to typically chest shoulders
and triceps, a pole day typically refers to back
and biceps, and then of course leg refers to the legs.
Now if you only work out three days that week,
you hit each of those body parts once, one time.
If you do a full body routine and you work out three times that week, you hit each of those body parts once, one time. If you do a full body routine and you work out three times
that week, you hit all the body parts three times.
So that increased frequency, like Adam's talking about,
tends to make it superior.
To get the same kind of frequency out of a push pull routine,
a push pull leg routine, you wouldn't be able to,
because there's seven days in a week,
and so at most you hit each area twice a week,
you'd have to make up the difference with volume.
Now, I know what the studies say and the studies say,
if the volume is the same, there's not that big of a difference.
I disagree, I've trained lots and lots of people,
I've trained myself, and more frequency,
I say 80% of the time was better.
It's just not that.
I mean, even nobody ever trains like a study for six weeks.
It just doesn't, real life happens.
And that, I mean, that to me is the real difference maker
in the stuff that we talk about on the show
is that we always take into consideration like behavior
and the behaviors that I've seen,
training tons of people for this long,
is that, and myself, who's a fit,
who's supposed to be a fitness fanatic.
Life happens.
And sometimes I only get to the gym once anyway.
And if I'm gonna do that,
I much rather not be in the middle of my push pull split routine.
I'd much rather be doing a full body
so that like I said, at least everything is getting touched.
Otherwise, you have these weeks
where inconsistency might happen.
And then what do you do when you start over again?
And everybody tends to start over either the beginning
of the push pull routine or they start over
on the muscle group that they love training.
It's just, it's behaviors.
Yeah, but here's the point that I wanna make though.
Let's just say, you're right, this doesn't happen in real life,
but let's just pretend that it's perfect. Push, pull legs versus full body, everything's perfect. So let's compare
the two. Here's why I still think more frequency is better for most people. You get to practice
the exercises more often. So even though the volume might be controlled for, you might
hit your legs twice a week. So you're squatting twice a week, which is a very complex
Exercise and a lot of the gains you get from a squat is the central nervous system adaptation the practicing of the exercise a full-body routine means
You can practice squatting at least three times that week
So it's that practice element that everybody forgets
That I think is extremely important and if you're super advanced that might be not as important
But like I said this is my 100% belief,
about 80 to 85% of everybody listening right now
is going to get better results across the board
on a full body routine than they would on any kind of a split,
including a push pull leg routine.
And by the way, yes, push pull leg,
and those kind, they can be effective.
I mean, we have a program that follows a split
called MAPSplit.
But for most people, the full body just always works out that.
But it's still like in progression after aesthetic,
which like this is, you know, like,
there's something a little bit more advanced.
And so I look at it like that.
I look at it like an advanced technique.
Like you're mentioning the practicing element.
It's a huge component.
You got to really get familiar with all these exercises
in a much better
approach for doing that is the full body routines.
Next question is from Epic mantra fitness. What are your thoughts on the statement you
can't judge someone's health by looking at them?
I would say this, I would say you can see a certain amount of someone's health, right? You can't see everything, but there is a certain amount of someone's health. You can see a certain amount of someone's health,
right, you can't see everything,
but there is a certain amount of someone's health,
you can see by looking at them, but there's a caveat.
What is your filter?
Are you yourself a healthy person?
So I'll explain what I mean.
If you had asked me to someone look healthy
when I was in my late teens, very insecure,
super into bodybuilding.
I just needed to build muscle
because I hated being skinny all that stuff.
And you showed me a ultra ripped, shredded,
muscular person, I would have been like,
yes, that's healthy.
Today, oftentimes I can see somebody that looks like that
and I know, no, they don't look healthy.
So it's the person who's looking.
And here's your evidence right here, okay?
You got so many people that do so many things to their body
to make them look better, but in reality,
they're, it's all fake and false.
Everything from plastic surgery to anabolic steroids
and drugs and all that stuff.
That, you know, it just becomes extreme.
And because so many other people are unhealthy,
they look at that and they think they're attractive.
So if you're a healthy person,
you can usually see a decent amount of someone's health
simply by looking at, of course it's not 100%.
Well, and I also think too,
this is totally different when you're looking at pictures
versus somebody in real life.
I mean, there's just so many examples of filters
and ways that people have hid dark dark eye circles and like real visible signs
that their body is fighting something internally.
And I think that, I mean, this is a natural thing.
I think that people have that's in our DNA
to where we can see somebody and we can see
visible signs of unhealth.
That's something that we're sort of geared towards,
especially when we're going to
reproduce with somebody. That's something that I think that it's weird that you would deny the fact
that we're not constantly judging people based upon what they're presenting. I think that
So I think that, you know, and I don't know if this is inferring, you know, the whole weight at any size being healthy and all that kind of stuff, like if that's being thrown
in the mix because that's a totally different conversation.
I don't think we can.
Just because, I mean, you just mentioned a great point, Sal, is that if you asked me when
I was 20 something years old, which by the way, already schooling
behind me, years of training people, a fitness professional, think I know a lot about it,
I would still have been way off on it.
So I think that the majority of people cannot judge this.
We have just, and we've been conditioned to look at someone's body and assume that because
they look a certain way that they are considered
healthy. Look at the covers of shape magazine, men's health, muscle and fitness, this, uh, your
Instagram celebrities, celebrities in general, like everything that we've been told, like this is an
example of health many times. And much of what we used to talk about when we first started mind
pump was uncovering this was that your fitness professional or this person who we are highlighting
as the pinnacle of health is not healthy at all.
They're taking antiball steroids,
they have a terrible relationship with their body image,
they have a terrible relationship with their friends,
their family, there's so many things that encompass health that you can't see.
And I also know what I've dealt with personally myself.
I have to be in, if I looked at the last 20 years,
I have to be in the lower, not definitely not the worst at all,
but I would say I've been the lower percentile
of what I would consider my best aesthetic shape.
But I have to say that I'm probably in the best overall
health shape I've ever been in my life
because of the other balances, my financial health,
my spiritual health, my relationship health
with my family, with my friends, the job that I'm doing,
the things that I'm, the other aspects that take care
of an encompassed health in my life, meditation, reading,
all these things that I was not doing to take care
of my complete spectrum of health, I wasn't doing before, but if you look,
if we were to take my shirt off and show a picture of me
versus what I looked like just six years ago,
someone would be like, oh my God, Adam is so unhealthy
now compared to what he used to be.
You know what's funny?
Yeah, I would agree with like the general person for sure.
I don't think like a lot of people pick up on those signs.
Even I would have tried.
Or even aware of it.
I do think there's ways to learn that
and that's something that we've done is health professionals, we've learned all those signs, or like, I would have tried. Or even aware of it. I do think there's ways to learn that, and that's something that we've done
is health professionals.
We've learned all those signs and symptoms,
and like, as a professional,
you could point out just by the posture
of somebody too, a lot of times,
whether or not they're ill,
or they have visible signs that their skin is,
you know, like, looks a certain color,
or something like that.
Yeah, a healthy person would be able to see
that you're healthy, you know? It really depends on your... They gotta be really healthy, though, when we like that. Yeah, a healthy person would be able to see that you're healthy.
It really depends on your...
They got to be really healthy, though, to do that.
What I'm saying is you're right.
We got to be educated, too.
Well, look at what we consider health.
Youth, that's what we consider healthy.
Anything that looks young, so a woman that has her hair colored so that there's no grays,
the average unhealthy person would say, well, they're healthier, right?
A big fake butt, some people might be like,
oh yeah, she looks healthy, or a guy that's all
roided out and got a six pack or whatever.
Yeah, he looks healthy.
So it takes a healthy filter to be able to look at someone
and say, are they really, really healthy overall?
And there's a lot you could tell by meeting someone
and talking to him too.
Sometimes you look at someone and physically,
they seem pretty healthy.
You start talking to them,
and you're like, well, especially the mental health aspect.
Yeah, I mentioned it.
Yeah, that's really hard to see.
Obviously unless you're in a room with them talking for one.
Right, right.
So, okay, fun game for us to play then right now.
Okay.
Of our other friends and peers in our space.
Oh gosh.
Think name two or three people that come to mind right away that you think of like really embodying
Or compass like full spectrum health that are really healthy that we've seen and hung out with in person. Okay now
I've got two right away that come to mind now nobody's perfect
So we're not gonna know. I don't want to give like an example and then think oh this person's perfect
You mean just people that we know that you meet and you go well this, this person's terrible. Well, yeah, we're sending it.
We're making a claim right now that we can look at somebody
and say that they are healthy and they embody health.
And so I'll give you mine since I'm the one
that started to come out of that.
Like two friends of ours that I look at,
every time I see them in person,
they just, they glow of health to me.
And that's Max Lugavir and Ben Greenfield.
Yeah. Ben has to have
some of the the craziest looking skin and hair. And when you're in person with him, it looks crazy.
He looks 10 years younger than what he really is. And he doesn't seem to age. We've known each other
now for six years. You say Paul check on some. Yeah. Paul would be a Paul would be another one.
Yeah. I would say, I mean, maybe I'm cheating here,
but I'd put Doug in the category.
Oh, yeah, Doug's absolutely.
And now I'm not.
That's not fair, we seem every day.
Well, but I know him better, right, than anybody.
And I'm counting all of it, right?
All of the, just mental health and all spiritual.
That's a syringes, too.
And Doug, Serene, who's on our YouTube channel,
when you meet her, she seems like a very secure,
vibrant, healthy, vibrant individual.
But yeah, if you have unhealthy filter on,
you know, if you got glasses on that,
through your own insecurities and your own,
you know, misconceptions of what health looks like,
you're not gonna see health,
you're gonna see your own unhealthy filter
through with other people.
And that's my case why I don't think anyone can judge it.
I think it would be hard for us as trained professionals,
seen tons of examples, but like Justin alluded to,
there's other things that encompass health
that even our eyes can't necessarily see.
I threw out someone's name like Ben.
For all I know, Ben is like internally
suppressing all this shit inside of him
that he doesn't feel like he's himself or he's going through and
Possible I can't tell that I got someone Arthur Brooks Arthur Brooks to me when you talk to him and meet him and see him and
He comes across a very calm demeanor. Yes, very good generally balanced healthy
Individual that's that's one example
Well, what I what I love of why I wanted to do this is that I Guarantee you that there's we didn't name you know a hundred people that look to the average person of that we've
That have been on this podcast that they look like the healthiest the most ripped the most fit and like they would be in that
category and we named off kind of average looking kind of bodies. I mean bends a little more ripped in
Leigh. I'm looking pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah, crazy. Yeah, he looks pretty crazy right now, but not
crazy crazy, not like he's a average person. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, everybody else, Max,
not so much Paul check. I mean, Paul check, considering his age. Yeah, that, that dude
doesn't even make sense. Next question is from her, Ken Schaker. How do you set up the quack episodes?
How do you choose the questions?
How do you prepare your answers?
And when do you find out what the questions will be?
There's very little.
Are we gonna be real honest here?
Yeah, yeah, no.
I think it's important because I think
we don't cherry pick questions.
It's really extremely random.
It's literally which one of us speaks to us.
Which one of us three gets to it first?
Like, we all are always doing lots of different projects.
And so when we come in the office,
first thing in the morning,
Sal might be on the phone with his book at a time,
Justin may be booking something with Malsaft Doug's
always got something going on.
So I might go like, oh, I see that the guys are all
really busy.
Let me be the one to get on here real quick and pick, you know, four questions. I tend to try and pick personally. I tend to try and
pick questions that get a lot of likes, meaning that other people want to hear us talk about it. So
I, I, something they got no likes or nobody really sort of that one person wants to hear it. I
try and pick the ones that there's more than one person that's like wanting to hear the answer
to that. But there's really no rhyme or reason
of how we choose them.
We do, and then the other guys don't know.
These questions that we have right now,
I picked these this morning,
Sal and Justin got zero time to prep.
No one has primed for prep,
so we don't prep our answer.
No, I think that there may be some benefit
to prepping a little bit,
just looking at the question five minutes before,
so you can kind of get your,
what you're gonna say organized, so you can kind of get your, what you're going to say organized.
But really, I like the fact that, you know, what comes out is our first experience.
So it turns into a good discussion.
By the way, for those of you who have never asked this a question for these episodes,
it's super easy.
You go to the Mind Pump Instagram page.
It's Mind Pump Media, and then go to the
Qua. It's QUAH meme and right underneath Post Your Question. And if you do it every week,
I think we post them, how many times a week do we post them?
The odds are in your favor. Yeah. Especially if it's thought provoking. I think too,
like we just, we revisit a lot of similar topics,
but if we've done it recently,
we try to avoid the redundancy of it,
but I know people get something out of us
going back over a topic in more depth,
so we look for opportunities to do that,
or but mainly it's interesting questions.
It's ones that are thought-provoking,
or obviously related to health and fitness are those
are the best.
Yeah, and here's the other thing too.
When we first started doing those, we thought to ourselves,
well, people don't be asking a lot of the same questions
over and over again.
But then we remembered what it was like.
To be a trainer.
Yeah, and here's the answer.
I answer the same question a thousand times.
To the same person.
Yeah.
When you're working with somebody and they were having, you're talking about changing
their behaviors and changing the way they eat
and how they should become active,
and they've never done it before.
They've never been consistent before.
It's a lot over and over again conversations.
Many times said differently,
maybe introduced differently, using different examples,
telling different stories. and eventually the person
really understands what you're trying to say.
This is just it, like this happened many times in my career
and we see this happen today still with these quads.
Like if you're somebody who's listened
to every single episode since day one,
you pretty much know our stance on everything,
but every time we have to revisit something
that's similar to something we've talked about before,
somebody shares something different,
or we convey the message a little bit different.
And I remember all the time training clients,
where I know I said this thing like 10 times.
I've answered this question 10 times,
but it was the way I answered it on the 10th time.
That hit a chord for them.
That was like, oh shit, that makes total sense.
Or it just related to something in their life
where the light bulb went off and then they now,
and that's how we look at these is that,
yeah, there's, every one of these questions,
we've answered somewhat like this before.
There's nothing in here that's completely.
Many times.
Yeah, many times over.
But because it's worded different,
it's asked by a different person
and we've maybe not addressed it in six months or a year,
we answer it, and then in hopes that there's, you know,
hundreds, maybe thousands of people
are listening this time to go like, oh, I get it now.
Yes, the goal is to create a-ha moments
for people listening, and the goal is also to strengthen
and reinforce those moments over time.
So one of the best things you could do, and this is, again, this is experience with working
with the trainer, excuse me, working with clients as a trainer, is this, you listen to
the podcast, listen to the questions, if you see that the same question comes up, keep
going, keep listening over and over and over and over and over again.
And what will end up happening is little by little,
you will change the way you think about yourself,
you will change the way you think about exercise.
And not just from outside, oh, I know this answer,
I know what they're gonna say,
but I mean really knowing and adopting it as part of,
you know, how you treat yourself, how you exercise
and how you feed yourself.
And so that's really the goal with these questions.
And so if you haven't asked this one,
go to the MindPump Media official page post questions.
And if you do it every week,
I guarantee at some point we'll pick your question
and answer it for you.
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