Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1351: Building Muscle After 40, the Value of Push, Pull & Leg Routines, Visible Signs of Health & More

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about making muscle gains at 40,  push, pull, and leg routines, thoughts on the statement “you can’t judge someone�...�s health by looking at them,” and how they set up the QUAH episodes. Sal’s “euphoric” concoction. (6:35) The eerie cult classic that is relevant today. (9:59) Trump “flexing” to make TikTok an American company? (13:45) Sports are back on the table, but are people watching? (15:50) The common chemicals found in sunscreen and the safe alternatives you can use. (27:51) Mind Pump LOVES Magic Spoon. (31:10) Google’s market response to education amid the pandemic. (35:04) The pursuit of fitness, done properly in a healthy way, builds and encourages the skills that make you more successful in other aspects of life. (38:59) Hardgainer Webinar airing live this week! (45:08) #Quah question #1 – How possible it is to make muscle gains at 40? (46:45) #Quah question #2 – What do you think of push, pull, and leg routines? (54:12) #Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on the statement “you can’t judge someone’s health by looking at them?” (59:09) #Quah question #4 – How do you set up the QUAH episodes? How do you set up the questions, how do you prepare your answers and when do you find out what the questions will be? (1:08:00) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Performance ½ off!! **Promo code “GREEN50” at checkout** Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! They Live (1988) - IMDb Trump says TikTok will be shut down in US on Sept. 15 Ratings Crash for NBA, MLB After Protest-Filled Debuts Another FDA study shows the body absorbs chemicals in sunscreen products Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Google will fund 100,000 career certification scholarships to help workers find jobs amid pandemic Exercise boosts satisfaction with life, researchers find Hardgainer Webinar Fabulous 40’s Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products MAPS Split | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Doug Egge (@mindpumpdoug)  Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Paul Chek (@paul.chek)  Instagram Serene Wilken (@mindful_axis)  Instagram Arthur Brooks (@arthurbooks)  Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defenow, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, we answer questions asked by listeners and viewers like you. Most of them are related to fitness and health. We are fitness and health. Sometimes they're not. Experts.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Now the way we open this episode is with an introductory portion where we talk about current events and studies. That part lasted 40 minutes. If you just want to get to the fitness stuff where we answer fitness questions, fast forward about 40 minutes ahead. But if you'd like to have fun, you want to hear current events and be entertained,
Starting point is 00:00:46 tune in to the very beginning. Nonetheless, I'm gonna give you a full breakdown of this whole episode. So we open up by talking about my favorite, super stack for mental clarity, concentration, and euphoria. Oh, yeah. So it's caffeine, thinning,
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Starting point is 00:01:25 Use the code, mind pump, get 15% off your first order. Then we talked about one of our favorite cult classic movies. They live. It seems to be a little relevant to today. So it's reflective. It's a good time. Then we talked about Microsoft and their attempts to buy TikTok to prevent it from being banned in America.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Then we talked about the Major League Baseball and National Basketball Association League ratings. So sports are back on the table, but not a lot of people seem to be watching them based off of previous season. Very interesting. So what's going on? Then I talked about a study talking about sunscreen chemicals,
Starting point is 00:02:04 common chemicals found in your sunscreen. It seems that they build up at very unhealthy levels, far above with the FDA deems to be healthy. So you might want to avoid those and go with the natural stuff. Watch out, Casper people. Then Justin talks about cereal. Oh, I'm sorry. Adam talked about cereal and how Justin tried to steal
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Starting point is 00:03:15 or at least causes personal growth to happen on accident. That's really cool. And then we talked about the hard gainer webinar that's happening this week. If you're somebody that has a real tough time building muscle and strength, male or female. If you think your body builds muscle slower than everybody around you, if you have a really fast metabolism or when you increase your calories, all you do is get fatter, don't gain any muscle or strength.
Starting point is 00:03:38 You need to watch this webinar. I break everything down. I talk about training for the hard gainer, the specific things you need to do to get your body respond. And by the way, I've never worked with a hardgainer that I couldn't get to build muscle. The webinar's totally free. Just go to hardgainerwebinar.com. So that was the first 40 minutes, then we get into the fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person wants to know if it's possible to gain muscle at the age of 40 or over. The next question. This person wants to know what we think of push, pull, and leg split routines.
Starting point is 00:04:11 The third question, this person wants to know our thoughts on the statement. You can't judge someone's health by looking at them. And then the final question, this person just wants to know how we set these episodes up, how we pick the questions, and how we prep for them. And by the way, if you want to ask us a question that we can answer in these episodes, listen to that part, because it gives you all the instructions. Also, it's August, right in the middle of summer, and that means there's a new promotion.
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Starting point is 00:06:46 So I go caffeine, right? Caffeine and theanine, great combination. Yes. This isn't studies, by the way, if you combine your caffeine with the amino acid, theanine, you will have a better, more euphoric focused experience. It's more drawn out too, which I believe. Last longer, this is well documented.
Starting point is 00:07:07 This is a real thing. Here's one more thing you can do if you feel like you wanna become superhuman. Combine it with cannabinoids. So I took Ned this morning, did a dropperful in Ned, coffee, theaning. You're just having,
Starting point is 00:07:27 like my, my total routine. Do you do it every time now? Yes. Every time I have a nitro, especially, like I, you know, I wanna ride that as long as possible and keep it so I don't get too jacked up into a jittery, so like adding those together is like a beautiful couple.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I find it, yeah, I find it gets rid of the jitters and it also eliminates the hard crash, right? Yes, that's the big one. So a lot of times you get, especially when you do something strong like nitro or you do a pre-workout, you get this great high for your workout, but then there's this hour, two hours later,
Starting point is 00:08:01 this hard crash. When you got me on the Thienine and I've also done that with the Ned, it doesn't seem to peak with the jitteriness, it just, you have a nice high and then it seems like it is like mellow and then there's no drop off. It's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I'm telling you, if you want to have, like you want to go into a business meeting or you want to write something or you just want to be creative, try that combination. It's sharp and awake. It's pretty wild and I know there's coffee companies that are trying to combine CBD with coffee now. It's disgusting the way they do it.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah, we tried those. Yes, I have. I've had a few of those cans. You can get them at like whole foods but it's just like, they have not mastered it yet. This is a much better option. Now, just do the, just do the, putting your mouth, yeah, you put it in your,
Starting point is 00:08:51 so you, when you do it, you're supposed to leave it under your tongue for like a minute. So like, put it under your tongue for like a minute, then you wash it down. Like, I don't want my whole coffee tasting like CBD. Right. I'm not at like that. I've tried those two just in their garbage.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like, I'd rather, you have one swig with it than it's good. Then you're done. Yeah, and then you're done. Now you have coffee. Yeah, that's what I mean. But yeah, great feeling and it lasts a long time and it's smooth and it's euphoric is the best way
Starting point is 00:09:13 I can describe it. Cause caffeine will get you up, but not always euphoric. You know what I'm talking about? That happy, good feeling. Hey, speaking of writing, how's the book coming along, man? Oh good, we don't get it from you. Yeah, we don't talk too much about it.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It's because it's a tell-all book about you guys. I don't want to say this. Man. Ah. Too much. Yeah. It's a lot of secrets and it's all just going to come out later. I'll find out.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I know you guys love me no matter what, so. It's all good. Hey, what a conflict you're feeling. That would be, Sal sells like a million fucking books, but then it's like shit talking about us. Yeah. Yeah, we're rich. Oh, fucking asshole. Sal sells like a million fucking books, but then it's like shit talking about I feel so conflicted about you read the part about Justin clipping his toenails while they podcast Dude there's that that movie Justin they live. Yes. Tell me that that's not relevant today. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:10:05 What is that? I started watching it. It had to be like, so late 80s, like early 90s, so it was full of it. But yeah, this was like one of those sci-fi movies that had rowdy, rowdy, piper in it. You know, so it's like, Oh, you mean the glasses?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah, it was a glass. Oh, God. He sees these almost like zombified like alien. People have been taking over basically right in front of everybody. And so yeah, the classic Like I was I was chewing bubble gum and kicking ass, but I ran all out of bubble gum. No, he says as a good I came here to do two things to bubble gum and kick ass. Thank you Yeah, I'm all I'm bad. I'm bad at close So it's a it's a cult classic
Starting point is 00:10:44 So it's a cult classic. So it's not, obviously, it was made in the late 80s. So it's a little bit cheesy. The special effects aren't the greatest. It's like rad. One of the best fight scenes of any movie ever. Not because it's like Jackie Chan, Kung Fu, whatever, but rather because it looks like they beat this shit
Starting point is 00:10:59 out of each other. There it is. Like a real fight. There's a very good fight. So my comparison is, and I know whatever, you know, you can conspiracy theory me all day long. This is like the uncovering of all those fucking sick pitos. Yeah, that's how it's like, you know, put the eyes...
Starting point is 00:11:14 Oh, you were one too, look at you. Yeah, so essentially, you know, it's okay if I run the plot, by the way, but he finds these glasses, puts them on, and then as he's walking the streets, he sees people look really fricking like weird. It's like disturbing. And he can't figure out what the hell's going on, and so that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I won't say much else, but there's just like aliens that are taking over. And my favorite part is when he puts on the glasses, and I think he's driving or he's walking, and he sees the billboards. And billboards are normally like, oh, Coca-Cola, whatever. But instead it says consume.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Consume. Yeah. Oh, babe. Oh, babe. Yeah. It's like, what the hell? It's such a great experience. I can't believe you guys remember the details of that.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean, I've watched that for sure a couple times as a kid, but I can't remember for the life of me like the details of it like that. I've seen it. Some styles just, you know, he has that ability. I've seen it, no, I've seen it a good 10 times. It was, I was great movie when I was younger. I think I watched it first when I was like 14.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And I thought it was awesome. And then later I watched it as an adult. And then I feel like it's so relevant today. Courtney makes fun of me for that kind of stuff. Because it's cheesy, you know, and it's like it's like we grew up with Predator and we grew up with like all these like Commando and like stuff that's like really cheesy, but like awesome, you know, this is one of those movies You just wait till your kid your kids are like 15 16 when it's okay for them to watch some of these movies. Yeah, because now I get to sit down my son
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, that's some serious. Oh, dude. We watched fight club. So he'd never seen fight club Right, and it's a nice 15 now, so I can watch it with them. Yes, and I you know I love watching remember the first time you watch fight club at the very end where you're like, oh shit, right? That was my son as we're watching it first off as you go back and you see all these little blurbs of Yeah, he caught on to it right away. He saw that right first right away as we're anything to him as we're watching it first off, as you go back and you see all these little blurbs of yeah, he cut on to it right away He saw that right first right away as we're anything to him as we're watching goes. Why is it? Why is there a guy flashing? I'm like, oh, I don't notice that And then we watched alien the first alien next is gonna be total recall already seen predator with them classic
Starting point is 00:13:24 Ah, it's a good I get to watch him again I know it's great that he's actually like them to he does. Oh, that's good He likes he likes him for the same reasons I did which really you know, it's just you know It's like cool. You you are my kid. I was just hit like he's your son. Yeah, cuz if he didn't I'd have I'd be like We're gonna do a blood test cuz yeah Yeah, well, what do you guys what do you guys think about Trump banning TikTok? Oh, yeah, see I don't know Man, I had this feeling that especially with the military already like you know restricting Anybody there from using it. I'm like this is only a matter time before the general public
Starting point is 00:14:00 I'm sure they're gonna crack down and the only way out of that is if American company buys it, and I know that Microsoft is bidding for it right now. Oh, are there? Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, you didn't know that. Oh, yeah. So that's the one way it won't get banned in the US
Starting point is 00:14:15 is if a American company buys it, and right now, you've got Microsoft that's bidding for it, which is interesting in itself too, because we talk about, you know, that we just had that big hearing for all the big tech companies. I do. Obviously Microsoft wasn't involved with that because they don't do things like all these social media platforms.
Starting point is 00:14:32 They won't have data. Did you see when they were asking them all, they're like, so are you aware that China, you know, copies and infringes on copyright and all of them were like, oh, no, that's not personal experience. Yeah, I'm not aware. I've never seen it. And then they get to Zuckerberg and Zuckerberg's like, yeah, that happens. China steals.
Starting point is 00:14:51 He stole things. Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably because Facebook's banned in China. Yeah, I'm sure. You know what? So here, there's two different ways to look at this. One way is to say, well, yeah, it tick-tock is being used to collect information
Starting point is 00:15:05 on people. They're up through a backdoor way of taking advantage of the fact that we have open markets that were relatively, definitely very free compared to them. And so, Communist China has this social media thing. Now, they can have all this information. The other way to look at it is that Trump is using China fears to turn a company into an American company. You know what I'm saying? So there's both angles, I guess. That's what I text you.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I feel like this is another maneuver by him. Like what he did with the tariffs and so on that. It's like a flex to get something else that he wants. That's what I feel like is happening. Like he's threatening to ban it. Yeah, definitely be a motivation. Unless you make it American. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah, freedom fries. Yeah how I feel about that. Freedom fries. Yeah, I'm not sure. Dude, so I read this article about, I don't watch sports, but this is kind of big news right now. You're gonna bring out the NBA. Well, both NBA and the MLB, they've had a few games now, right? Now, I read an article that listed how many viewers watched the opening games, and then it listed
Starting point is 00:16:10 how many viewers came back to watch more. And the ratings were first off underwhelming with how many were supposed to show up considering there's been no sports, nobody's doing anything. They think they'd be a frenzy. They expected like more people, still the initial numbers seem to be good, but just under perform what they expected,
Starting point is 00:16:29 but the ratings dropped considerably after that first game. What are your beliefs? Cause you know, part of me's like, well, there's no fans. They went too proud on the political side. Very hard. Is that what you think it is? They went way too.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Especially the NBA versus the MLB. Like you just don't see as much of the, you know, what they're trying to promote. They went way hard on the political side. They did. And that's why you think a lot of people turned it off. I mean, that's why my friends that are on the conservative side of the fence did.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I mean, I've got four or five buddies that all, we're all in sport. We're all in fantasy leagues. The other, we all talk sports when we were all excited for to start up and it was just a little heavy on that side more than I think anybody. And I think we all anticipated it to be a little bit which I think was okay, but they went,
Starting point is 00:17:16 they NBA above every other professional sport team or organization, they went harder than anybody else did. And I think that's what turned off a lot of viewers. Well, the NBA had the biggest drop bigger than the MLB. And they were the hardest on it. Yeah. Everybody else that MLB was second in line to that. And then you had other sports. Well, actually, I might be wrong. Check this out. So the LA, the Lakers and Clippers, this is the initial game, right? The opening, that was one of the opening games of micro S. Okay. There's a second of the opening. Okay. First one was the jazz game, right? The opening, that was one of the opening games of micro-apps, like, okay. There's a second of the opening.
Starting point is 00:17:45 It's the first one was the jazz game, which was earlier in the day, which is why. That one was lower because, well, one, it's also jazz and pelicans, which is less popular. Those are two great, don't get me wrong. Good tease, but yeah, less popular. Well, so check this out. This is the opening game,
Starting point is 00:17:59 and I think they expected NBA finals type numbers. When the finals are on, you're seeing five to six million viewers is what I looked up. So the opening was 3.4 million for Lakers Clippers and 2.1 million for Pelican Jazz. Then when they came back and had the Celtics and Bucks and Mavs and Rockets.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Which are all the next days. It went down to 1.3 and 1.7. So that's a huge drop. Yeah, cutting half. Almost, right? For baseball, Yankees Nationals was 4 million and the Dodgers Giants 2.8, that went down to less than a million
Starting point is 00:18:39 for the Metz and Braves, just a million for the Brewers and Cubs and under 800,000 for the angels in the ass of drop. Huge drop. And so, but you know, there's a few factors I think we need to consider. One is... No crowd. Well, first off, there were no sports for a while, so I think everybody expected huge audience.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Well. But then there's no crowd. Like, did they have those like those kind of cardboard cutouts? Well, they actually did, the NBA did something really interesting. They had where the fans would be. They had a massive digital screen. And then there was what looked like real people streaming in. And then they have these massive speakers that were putting off the sound of like what a crowd would be.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Now that alone, forget everything else. Did that make you feel like you were watching a normal game? I mean, yeah, no, it definitely, very similar make you feel like you were watching a normal game? I mean, yeah, no, it definitely, very similar to what I said about the watching UFC, there's, it feels a little practice-esque. I mean, you can hear the guys in the court talking to each other, like that you couldn't ever hear that. The crowd would be so loud.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You can hear everything. Yeah, so, you know, somebody who's played, like you, that's nice, right, to be able to talk to my players or my teammates and let them know, oh, back door, back door, you know, somebody who's played, like you, that's nice, right? To be able to talk to my players or my teammates and let them know, oh, back door, back door, you know, and things like that, you now get to hear that as a fan. So you can hear the conversation or the yelling back and forth amongst teammates on the court. So does give a different fill. And it just didn't quite have the same, and NBA is a sport of runs.
Starting point is 00:20:03 The whole game is back and forth. Right. There's a lot of runs. The whole game is back and forth. There's a lot of runs that happen in the NBA, and I feel like it, and what I'm really curious to see, I told Katrina this, I was like, you know, I can't wait to see the numbers on point scored. My theory is that because the crowd plays such a big factor with runs and excitement,
Starting point is 00:20:23 that we will see an at total scoring going down. That's my that's my that's my theory, but we won't know that until we have enough games under our belt to like see a real good snapshot. Okay, well, so so there's that. And then the other side of it that I've been reading as people are saying that it was just too, too political or too politicized, which it could be that a lot of people disagreed with their stance or maybe a lot of people were like, I don't want to get my politics when I'm getting what's working.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yeah, even if you agreed with it, it's just like, you got bombarded with it. I mean, it's on the court. It's like the commercials. You just don't get a break from it. It's interesting that they decided to go so hard with it. Yeah, and you think that that, because a lot of people are saying that that's... Well, that's the reason why I turned it off. I turned it off because it was too much for me. And that was similar to my buddies that were watching.
Starting point is 00:21:12 They all kind of felt the same way. It's like, listen man, like, again, just like you said, I'm not against, like everyone is to each their own, but when I watch sports, that's my time. I mean, I tease you all the time, right? That politics is sports for nerds. I don't want to now include my politics with my sports.
Starting point is 00:21:29 My money and that's part of the experience. Yeah, I want to watch. I want to watch. You want to get away and have fun. In politics, it's stressful. Yeah, so it's like, we get that enough in our Facebook. Well, that's exactly what happened. So what did it end up doing?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Is it sparked? Like, so I have these threads of of my buddies that I grew up with that threat is like dedicated to good sports shit talking. But that's all we do. Your team is playing the other guys that are not, the other two guys that are not fans of that team talking shit. Oh, what a terrible pass.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Oh, LeBron, you know what I'm saying? And it's great fun for us. But it turned, we stopped talking about the game and it all suddenly turned into all this political ship and sending articles back and forth. And it's like, yeah, because you have a mix of friends. You have friends that are conservative and friends that are very liberal.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I have, yeah, I have hard left. I have hard right. I have kind of in the middle where I feel like I've kind of fall. And for me, it's like, I want to separate those. We have fun getting into political stuff. So we have our threads where we're talking politics, which is great. I think it's healthy, especially when you have friends on both sides. I think it's a great way to dialogue. And then we have like our sports stuff, but it bled into our sports conversations.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Like, I don't want to talk about this stuff right now. Yeah. I want to, I want to talk about a game and talk about what we're seeing on the court. And that, that's my reason. And here's another reason why I think that this is true is because Luke would happen with USC. USC had some record breaking viewership on their, their fight car. And it was all about the fight. Right. It was about the fight.
Starting point is 00:22:59 There was nothing, nothing political in it whatsoever. It was all about the sport and it crushed. Yeah. And I think that they did, they went a little hard. Do you think it was the players that were pressuring the organization a bit to kind of really promote, you know, the, you know, the political atmosphere? I think there was both. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was both. I think the, I think the, the NBA, obviously, I mean, they, I mean, they've painted the court.
Starting point is 00:23:23 They, I'm sure they have some sort of say in some of the advertising and the commercials that come through. I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, obviously what the players and the coaches do with getting together and kneeling, that's on them. They decided to do that. I don't think the NBA said do it or don't do it. They said they support whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So that the players made that call and that decision. But I mean, how they view it, I mean, how they shoot it in film it, what the announcers talk about, the commercials that are played, like, I mean, I'm sure that they have a positive decision. Well, this is a market-based organization. So they're going to have to do what the, or fail. Well, yeah. So we'll see if it continues that way, if they keep getting crap, if it starts affecting paychecks all around, it'd be interesting
Starting point is 00:24:09 to see how they, you know, if they keep it going or pivot. Well, here's on the flip side. Tom Brady apparently was hitting golf balls in the woods, got 5.8 million viewers. So he got more, he got far more viewers than the opening day of both the, you know, the other thing is to, and to, you know, when you talk about there's lots of other factors, there is the, the, that, like, even myself being a huge sports fan and even bigger NBA fan, I had to, I was reminded by one of my good buddies that, you know, it was opening day coming back up because I've just, you know, the season, to me, the the seasons over, and most fans that are, that are big NBA fans will put an asterisk by the season
Starting point is 00:24:49 no matter what, because it's already there's, you know, or way late. Yeah, it's so late already, they're doing this kind of like, you know, quarter season real quick to get to the, to get to the playoffs. There's team like the warriors are not even, and you won't see any warriors playing basketball this year. They're already eliminated from that. So they eliminated like the bottom, not even in you won't see any warriors playing basketball this year they're already eliminated from that so they eliminated like the bottom I think 10 teams are already eliminated from playing games right now anyway so there's going to there's there's other factors you know so you got to you got to think that if your teams one of the 10 teams that's not playing right now those people are probably carved off right away there's
Starting point is 00:25:18 probably a bunch of people that are like this is not even a real season so even no matter who wins this championship I'm not going to count it in my book. So there's other factors. So we might be being deceived a little bit that there's one thing or another. Right. That it's all these two million people turned it off because it's political. I don't know. That's my experience with my group of friends that decided to not watch it. That was the reason being, but that might not be everybody. That might be that just because it's just a weird thing. Common sense though would say that with people thirsty
Starting point is 00:25:49 for entertainment, thirsty for distraction, sports are excellent at that, right? People aren't really going anywhere. You know, you would think that that something is popular as the NBA and the MLB that you would have in explosion of your ship. Like you said, UFC had record numbers. So it is interesting. I think we should keep watching to see what the market says and how they respond to it because here's the position there. And now if the ratings continue to suck, now the NBA is in a look like what they're in between a hard rock and a hard place. They're committed. Like now it's like, do we switch gear? Now we look bad.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Now they can't. They got to ride it out. Yeah, they're committed now. They're committed to that. I think they would look worse if they waved the other way. Because then it looks like it was always bullshit. Yes. It was always bullshit. You're doing it just thinking that you're you thought you were with the majority by by accepting or adopting all this. And then now you go, so they won't waver. They'll stick it through.
Starting point is 00:26:50 But what you might see is you maybe we'll see like back off a little bit on the commercials, the advertising, maybe you'll hear less of the announcers, maybe even how they shoot the game. Like they put a lot of attention on the way they shot it. There was a lot of, I mean, I've watched the NBA for, you know, over two decades. And I've, unless it's a championship game, you don't even normally even see the players for the national anthem. They don't know right. Shoot that. Yeah, but it's just the experience you see as you're at the game. Yes. Yeah. But if you're a viewer on TV, the ever televised.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So this time it was focused on that? Oh, yeah, big time. So, you know, that's just, I mean, to me, that's like, okay, that's different. That's definitely different. And they're shooting, they can very easily allow that support that let it happen, but then not put all this emphasis on shooting it.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So we might see some subtle changes like that. That's what I'll be interested to see if they try and do that, like maybe not highlight it as much as they did. It'll be interesting. Wow. Well, let's see what happens. Hey, I read an interesting article
Starting point is 00:27:52 about the chemicals that are found in sunscreen, the common chemicals. So, you know how sunscreen prevents sunburn, right? There are chemicals in there that absorb the UV rays. That's what we hope is happening. Yeah. And well, there was a study that came out that showed that these chemicals accumulate at very high amounts in the body. So it goes, we were told that these particular chemicals don't accumulate to dangerous levels or cause issues.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Well, now studies are showing that they accumulate at very high levels in the body. Here are the ingredients. You find this in most sunscreens. I hope I'm pronouncing them right. One is Avobenzone, Oxybenzone, Octocrylene, Homoelate, octoselate, and octanoxate. They found that they led to... Rural natural items. They found that using these led to maximum plasma concentration rates ranging from 3.3 nanograms
Starting point is 00:28:59 per milliliter to 258 depending on the chemical and whether or not it was applied between the lotion and skin. Now here's the thing, the FDA says that it shouldn't go above 0.5. So on the low end, they found that it went up to three. On the low end, anything above 0.5 is above the FDA safety threshold. How crazy is that? Especially when you're just
Starting point is 00:29:25 lathering it all over your body. Now, that's what the FDA was out there. How does something like that get through that's more than five times stronger than what it's allowed? This was a recent study that came out that said, Hey, um, uh, looks like these are accumulating in the body. I think previous studies didn't look at this necessarily. Oh, maybe it was just like the initial.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So the initial might be under 0.5, but it builds up, say you're on the beach for three days in a row, lathering up five times. And it goes way above the FDA, what the FDA has deemed as safe. Now I stopped using chemical sunscreens a long time ago. I don't, I haven't used them in years.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So what is the safe alternative for someone like Justin who right now looks scared of death? Yeah, I feel like, I haven't used them in years. So what is the, what is the safe alternative for someone like Justin who right now looks scared of death? Yeah, I'm like, oh shit, do I gotta look like that? Idiot guy with the zinc everywhere. Cause I'm, I'm, I'm trying out this ass to Zanthan thing and, and like hoping for the best and to see if that actually has, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:18 some kind of, you know, benefit to it. But at the same time, I'm like, I have to put it on. I'm a burnt. Yeah, so zinc or titanium are the safe alternatives. You don't wanna get nano-particular, you know, not where they crush the zinc so small that actually absorbs in your skin. But those sunscreens are different
Starting point is 00:30:41 because they don't absorb the UV rays, they reflect them out. Now, the drawback is even the good ones. You're gonna have a little bit of a white Sheen to your body when you put them on, but dude, I would not mess with the chemical ones Yeah, at all because when they accumulate in the body they have hormonal potential hormonal effects Dude on the body. Yeah, so ghosted out at the upbeat. Shoot another Another product that has been used forever that we're now finding a more harm than good. I know you left. So you left early last week. And so I don't think you saw this. I think Rachel posted the clip that I had sent over.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But I came in or this was I think Thursday late afternoon. I'm getting ready to leave here. And I see that magic spoon has sent like two like massive cases that have like, you know, 10 cases each of the boxes of cereal in there. Oh, is this where you fuck with Justin? Yeah. And I go, no, he, I come out there. And here's, I see Justin walking out, fucking carrying this, like, handful of all the blueberry and free.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He went through all the cases and plucked all the blueberry flavor. Yeah, yeah, all out of it. It leaves us with the other flavors. Sneaky and I was telling Doug I was like this son of a bitch right? We're going through it. It's like he went picked out all the good flavors. So I was like, let me open up this other case and see what's in there. And that opened their case and it's full with peanut butter. Which I know he's got the gold. I know he still hasn't had the peanut butter. I mean, you tasted it. Yeah. so mad. I said, I still dug.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I was like, ah, this asshole tried to go in and take care of it. He missed the whole thing. Doug said, he almost ate like the whole box of it too. What you didn't sit in. Hey, what did you think of it, Doug? You like, it was great. Yeah, the peanut butter's fire, right?
Starting point is 00:32:15 Is that weird? There's no sugar in it, but it tastes the way it does. Oh man. I couldn't stop. I just kept pouring bowl after bowl. That's a magic engineering. So you know that they have new flavors coming, right? What are they?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah, they have strawberry, and then what's the other one they have coming right up? And the strawberry is supposed to have like little chunks of strawberry in it. Oh wait, didn't they say peaches and cream? I like strawberries. Wasn't that the other one? Yeah, that's another one that's coming out.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Oh, dude, welcome in. I'm excited for the next trick. So now you guys do, you guys do realize that by eating 10 servings, kind of negate the, you eliminate the benefit of eating a lean-out sugar. You gotta really figure out how it tastes. That's a texture.
Starting point is 00:32:52 You gotta get used to it. That's not necessarily true. I think I calculated out one day, like what if I ate this whole box? It's not as bad as you, it's not like eating a bag of potato chips. That's for damn sure. But is like 100 grams of protein?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah, it's a pretty damn big serving of protein for sure. That's too much. I mean, I already have more than one serving. I mean, what they put on cereal boxes, any cereal box, whether it's a, you know, quote unquote, healthy or regular cereal, is always like, who the fuck eats two thirds of cup? You know, say to a cereal like that's kind of weak sauce.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah, that's a tease. Yeah, when I was a kid, now it eats cereal, it was always a punch ball. Yeah, it was never, it was never an upgis. It's the serving bowl. But imagine you put popcorn in. Imagine when this, so one of my favorite serial's growing up was Captain Crunch
Starting point is 00:33:33 when they started to make the little strawberry fricking. The crunch berries? Yes. Oh really? I just like the, so imagine when this strawberry drops and you have peanut butter and you can sprinkle some of the strawberry flavor. So if you don't get the roof of your mouth tore up,
Starting point is 00:33:45 that was the worst. I can't wait for it. Do you guys think that happens because the Captain Crunch's like call to fame was the fact that it stayed crunchy and milk? So whatever they put in there, whatever chemical shit-short-redded your mouth. Yeah, they put in there, also destroyed your gums and your teeth. I don't even think about that Is that the reason why it was like that because that's my guess that's a good call. It did stay crunchy
Starting point is 00:34:10 It did it did it stayed crunchy longer than other didn't get soggy. Yeah, but you know It's too big about that broke up with a girlfriend over soggy Serial did you really yeah, what happened? I don't know. I was just frustrated because like we were having this fight over the phone And I just made myself a bowl of cereal and then it like by the time we're like done fight I was like, you know what? Like it's not worth it. I like hung up on her and I just can't eat my cereal This real is just isn't worth a bowl of soggy cereal. That's how important it was for you. That should be your high That should be a quote You ruined my frosted flake.
Starting point is 00:34:46 You're so dramatic that it was so bad. I got so mad. That's a real story. Yeah, you know what? I never had soggy serics. I ate it at the decent speed. Like if you ate your cereal so damn slow, it got soggy. It's your fault.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I was my belief. You deserve to have soggy cereal at that point. Anyway, did you hear about Google's career certificates? What? Oh, education. Oh, are they moving the education? I think doing what we were talking about. I think we predicted this. Yeah. I think so. Um,
Starting point is 00:35:15 you can get a Google career certificate that will help you get qualified for high paying, high growth job fields job fields, no college degree required, and in at Google, they will treat these career certificates as the equivalent of a four-year degree for related roles. Wow. Yeah, dude. Isn't that great?
Starting point is 00:35:37 I mean, for sure, you're gonna see all the other big companies follow. Don't you think so? Oh, they gotta be competitive, dude. It's, this is, we talked about this. This is for sure a market response because a 40 degree takes forever. You're taking a lot of stuff that maybe
Starting point is 00:35:52 you don't need for a specialized role. Why aren't companies gonna compete like this? I could see Apple doing this. I could see Facebook start doing this. Oh man. And these certificates take way less time or far less expensive. I think it's gonna be a freaking amazing thing. and these certificates take way less time or far less expensive.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I think it's gonna be a freaking amazing thing. I had such a long conversation with a bunch of people we were at this party and it was all about education because we talked about forever. It's completely changing from every facet of education. It's crazy to watch it all right now. What time we're in, where kids are like, we're all trying to figure this out and piece it together
Starting point is 00:36:29 and I've heard strategies from different parents and it's very, very interesting. So here it is. Tell me this is not gonna, like if this goes out and this starts to like spread with other big companies, tell me this isn't gonna destroy private education. Like expensive, you know, 100% going to totally disrupt that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Well, check this out. First of all, you can get a scholarship, right? So Google can actually can tell you, hey, we're going to give you this certificate. But if they don't, each specialization certificate costs $49 a month. Okay. Number one, number two, this is just with Google. Google has established hiring pipelines with big name employers, so cognizant, Hulu, K4 Sprint, et cetera, right? Upon completion of these certificates, you'll have the option to share your certificate with those employers.
Starting point is 00:37:16 So now those employers are gonna look at those as well. Beautiful. You know what I'm saying? I mean, just thinking about that, do the math on this. How many people work for Amazon? How many people work for Facebook? How many people work for Amazon? How many people work for Facebook? How many people work for Google?
Starting point is 00:37:26 How many people work for Apple? And if they all- This is real job placement. And if they all jump on board, what will that look like statistically? Yeah, and it's like, we're going to these institutions to get in like serious debt just to dig our way out where this is like, you can, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:41 directly go to these companies and then you have opportunities right away. You don't get yourself in massive debt. Dude, it gets better, okay? This is like, you can, you know, directly go to these companies and then you have opportunities right away. You don't get yourself in massive debt. It gets better, okay. Jobs, these are some of the, some of the courses they have. Job specializations include data analyst, IT support specialist, project manager, manager and UX designer.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Ready for this? Each specialization will take three to six months to complete. That's it. No experience is required to enroll, and the corresponding jobs have a minimum medium salary of $50,000. So here you are, three to six months later, you get a certificate that Google will now treat as a four year degree, and their other employers that they work with will treat it like a degree. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:23 You come out 49 bucks a month, so what's 49 times, so what's 50 times six was that three no bucks. And then you got it potentially, you could qualify for a job. No, no, it's a different one. And in a year to two years time, you could have all of them. You know what I'm gonna do?
Starting point is 00:38:37 I'm gonna see if my kid, if there's a major, yeah, how young he can be this dude. I'm gonna be like, hey man, you know, especially for someone like your kid Who's like so ahead of it is so ahead of his age, right tell me that's not amazing if other companies start to do this There's everybody's gonna be I mean this is a good thing. I think I think it's a really good thing I think this is gonna be a very very good thing. So exciting. Yeah, anyway, dude I I did a post actually I had a thought process that led to a post
Starting point is 00:39:07 a post, actually I had a thought process that led to a post about the personal growth that fitness encourages and people when they stick to it long enough and do it for the right reasons and follow it in a healthy way. And I was thinking about some of the studies that I've read on. Have you guys seen the studies on people who exercise and eat right and their rates of success in marriage, their rates of success in marriage, their rates of success in business and so on. Have you guys seen that? I have not.
Starting point is 00:39:31 It looks like. So, people who are who have high satisfaction with their career, people who earn more money than the average person, that's the other one, and people who tend to have high satisfaction with their families and marriage, a much higher percentage of those people exercise on a regular basis and prioritize a healthy diet. So that we've known for a long time.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And the argument was, oh, well, those people are already, you know, they've got good practices, obviously the successful business and will life. So it only makes sense that they would prioritize fitness and health. I think that the opposite obviously the successful business in life, so it only makes sense that they would prioritize fitness and health. I think that the opposite may also play a role,
Starting point is 00:40:10 which is the pursuit of fitness done properly in a healthy way builds and encourages the skills that make you more successful in other aspects of life. Well, there's so many parallels. We talked about this a while back, right? Where I, I speculated that a majority of that is, or the thing that I think is in common, is if you go to the gym or you exercise and diet,
Starting point is 00:40:35 you're growth-minded. You're trying to improve yourself. So that, that characteristic alone, it probably is a indicator of someone that is more likely to be successful in relationships and business. If you're a growth-minded person, I mean, that's one of my favorite attributes of someone like Katrina and it's why our relationship, even though you were 10 years deep in, continues to be better today than it was the first day we started dating was because we continue to grow
Starting point is 00:41:03 each other, both of us, right so and we care about that That's important to each of us So I think that has a big factor to play on why why these people and One of the things you learn in fitness Really quick after you've been doing it is that it's a slow process Mm-hmm, and there's a lot of failures along the way and it's and then consistency is so important and set back is part of it. So which parallels life, business, relationships, and everything else. That's exactly what it is in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I think that you're not born, growth-minded or fixed-minded. It's something that you can train, develop, you can change, how you view things. And the reason why I think fitness is such an effective way to do this is because your guard is down. You're not going in to work out and think to yourself, I'm way to do this is because your guard is down. You're not going in to work out and think to yourself, I'm going to totally change my mindset. I'm going to totally change. Oftentimes I just want to get in better shape.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I want to maybe lose some weight and get fit. Then you stick to it long enough and here's some of the stuff that you figure out. This is all what determines a growth mindset. You learn how to persevere in the face of failure. If you work out long enough and you try to fix your nutrition, you are going to fail a lot, especially in the beginning. And if you stick to it,
Starting point is 00:42:13 you learn how to persevere with those failures. Here's another one. Effort is required to build new skills. That's all fitness is. All fitness is is you go in and you try and you suck and then you go in the next time and you still suck, but maybe less a little bit and you keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And eventually you learn that, hey, you know what? If I put some effort in, I can learn some new skills. Here's another one. You find inspiration in other people's success. Here's what I notice with people in fitness. When they first start working out, they might be a little bit like, oh, that person is just genetically gifted.
Starting point is 00:42:49 But if you stick to it long enough, you know what you end up doing? You end up respecting people. Of course, you'd have good fitness. This is a breakthroughs all the time. Yes. And I think too, and this kind of goes back to the whole belief system.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like you come in believing you're something. Like I was, I had all these factors that were given to me at birth that like I'm trying to overcome where, and you also find out that you can break through, like say you're a hard gainer or say you're something that like, well I just can't build muscle, but like really you haven't like put that to the test.
Starting point is 00:43:20 You haven't done all those little steps that will actually get you to break through. Now a sudden, wow, I can build muscle, I can break through. Absolutely, here's the last one that I think is so powerful. You learn to accept criticism. And people who've been working out for a long time, know exactly what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:43:35 But if you're new, you might think, well, what do you mean by that? As you're doing this process, if you are to stick to it long enough, you have to be able to learn how to criticize yourself and accept it and not be this devastating thing. You also, when you meet other people that work out, can talk with each other about technique and form and how this might not have worked or whatever. And rather than taking it personally, like when I
Starting point is 00:44:00 first started working out, if you came up to me and said, Hey, Sal, you need to develop this more than the other because you're not looking balanced. Oh, I would have crushed me. Today, if I'm working out with one of you guys and you say that, it's like, okay, because we're all in this together, we understand the process.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So it's one of the best ways to enter into personal growth. And I think a big one is because it's unassuming. You don't even know what's happening until it's too late and then you've become... It's hard too. And I think that's what makes it so great when you talk about things like a relationship and business, because that's hard.
Starting point is 00:44:36 You know, living with someone the same person for the rest of your life is an easy. I don't care how great or how much work. Yeah, it's work. And you have to end, there's a lot of ups and downs, and it's working through all that that makes a really strong relationship. And the same thing goes for business.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Business is hard. There's a lot of setbacks in life. There's a lot of things that happen that you would never foreseen like you have to learn to enjoy it. Yeah, and adapt. You have to learn to adapt. So there's so much, I think,
Starting point is 00:45:00 so many parallels in training your body that you start to see in an unfold that parallel real life. Totally. And speaking of, you mentioned hardgainers, Jason. I want to say this, because we are about to start the hardgainer webinar where I talk exclusively to men and women who have trouble building strength and building muscle, maybe more trouble than the average person,
Starting point is 00:45:25 you think you're a hardgainer. This webinar is gonna be airing and we're gonna be on their live a few times this week. So if you wanna come and learn about why hardgainers are hardgainers and how to train your body specifically, so that it builds muscle and I'm gonna make a statement that's 100% true, this is not me blowing smoke. I have never met a hardgainer that I could not get To build muscle by applying some of the stuff that I really break down in this webinar
Starting point is 00:45:53 So it's extremely valuable. It's totally free You go to hardgainerwebinar.com and sign up and it's unlimited to how many people can call on that Well last night we had the first one at five o'clock. When's the next two Doug? I admit it to how many people can call on that. Well, last night we had the first one at five o'clock. When's the next two, Doug? On Thursday and on Saturday. Okay, perfect. Now, there may be some replay.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Sign up anyway, no matter what, you're gonna get great information. It's hardgainerwebinar.com. This quad brought to you by Organify. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Try Organified, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Daniel Mesa, one, how possible is it to make muscle gains at 40? Oh gosh. So here's the thing. So I trained a lot of people towards the end of my career as a trainer. That were in advanced stage, which I believe is classified as like over 65.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I'd say we need advanced stage now. No, we're not. No, I'm just gonna use the... I'm like, man. That was me the last time I said that. Let's just snuck up on us. No, I'm using that as an example because that's way older than 40.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So these are typically, it's considered anybody over 65 in a fitness context. And I would say towards the end of my career, a good 35% of my clients were over the age of 65, so I had a lot of experience training them, and they would often ask me the same question except they were 70 or 80. Sal, can I get stronger at 75 years old, or can I build muscle at 75?
Starting point is 00:47:36 The day your body loses its ability to adapt to stress, is the day you're dead, okay? So you never lose the ability to adapt to exercise. Now, your potential can definitely change. You're not gonna be able to get as strong at 70 as you can at 20. 40, yeah, there's a little bit of a difference, but not much.
Starting point is 00:47:58 There's not much of a difference. Well, I think there's a big difference in when we're comparing these two things, right? Like a 40 year old who is starting their fitness journey for the first time ever at 40 versus somebody who's trained off and on for a really long time and maybe they've been off for five years and they're training at 40.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Because something that I'm finding getting closer to 40 right now is, yeah, it's harder to get in the gym and lift and I have the aches and the pains and I have these and maybe like testosterone levels are starting to slowly decline in comparison to what I was when I was 20. So there's those factors. But then there's the positive factor for someone like me who's lifted for so long that I definitely feel like if I get in the gym and I start touching weights again, my body remembers really quick.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So it depends on the 40 year old that I'm talking to. Am I talking to a 40 year old who's never lifted weights before or am I talking to a 40 year old who has lifting experience? They just haven't got back on the wagon, right? Well look, Doug is a great example. Doug came to me as a client and he was a self described hardgainer, says, oh, all I do is gain body fat. I follow every routine.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I've been consistent forever. The guy was working out since he was in his 20s. He came to me in his late 40s and through changing the way he trained and training him properly, he didn't just get in good shape. He got in the best shape of his life. In fact, if you're watching this on YouTube, we'll have Andrew post up his before and after. So you can see what he looked like in his late 40s and you'd be blown away.
Starting point is 00:49:30 So I hate saying that, yeah, you might notice some decline. Here's the people that might notice declines. The people that are at a super high level all the time. Everybody else, you're probably not gonna notice because you'll notice more is, am I inconsistent? Is my diet poor? am I getting bad sleep. Now if you're like at a top level, you know, in your mid 20s, 30s and 40s,
Starting point is 00:49:52 then I've been consistent all the time for a long time. I'm being super consistent with diet and exercise. I notice a little bit of decline. Would I notice that at all if I was in and out? I don't think so. It's all about the other factors that make this. Yeah was in and out? I don't think so. It's all about the other factors that make this. Yeah, there's other things too though. I feel like we have to defend somebody who's 40
Starting point is 00:50:12 plus that's getting in the finish. Where you're at at 40 years old, there's other factors beside. I know the question is probably geared towards hormonally and your body's ability to adapt and all that stuff is fairly close to the same or equal, and I agree with you. But then, when you're four days, you've probably been married, have kids. Those are like, yeah, you have real established patterns. Work, hardware patterns.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Right, work is a huge priority. When you're 22, as long as you get your studying in for the week, for your test scores, the rest of the time, can be focused on yourself and training. That's a big difference. So I think that you have to give them some sort of credit
Starting point is 00:50:51 or that it's a little more challenging for someone who's starting at 40 late in their life who has all these other habits established. But good habits, right? Working and doing those things are important. This is also why, and you address this in the hardgainer webinar with Doug and everything like this is also why I find a full body routine to be so superior is a guy who's trying to get into it or even a girl for that matter that's trying to get into fitness at 40 years old or older and is
Starting point is 00:51:20 trying to follow these kind of body parts split routines where they need to train four, five, six days a week and be consistent in doing that while all these other factors are in play. And you don't have the experience of lifting four definitely can be challenging versus somebody who is lifting a full body routine that maybe only needs to commit to three days inside the gym. A lot of people can make that commitment and be consistent about it. And if they do miss a day, it's not as detrimental to them as far as their progress as it is for somebody
Starting point is 00:51:50 who's doing a split routine. You know what's funny is now that you brought up men and women, you made me think of something. The most fit women I've ever trained in my life, most, okay, most women that hire trainers are usually, because personal training is expensive, usually in their 30s or older. You rarely ever get a 20-something-year-old client
Starting point is 00:52:11 who hires you just because they don't have the finances to afford paying $50 to $100 an hour. So most of the female clients are over the age of 30, I would say. And comparing my female clients in their 30s to the ones in their 40s, the ones in the 40s got better shape. And it's not because of the age, it's because I think when the women were in their 30s to the ones in their 40s, the ones in their 40s got better shape. And it's not because of the age,
Starting point is 00:52:27 it's because I think when the women were in their 40s, their kids were older, they're not having kids anymore. Then they became more focused. Whereas the moms that I had that were in their 30s, it was harder for them to juggle time and scheduling, and then they got little kids, which takes up more time.
Starting point is 00:52:42 So I think that's the biggest factor is the time stuff and the responsibility. I've also noticed too, like even depending 40, 50, 60 year olds that I've trained that haven't even lifted weights before ever, they get those new be gains. It's definitely something that still happens. It's this phenomenon of your body's like,
Starting point is 00:53:01 wow, what is this? It's a brand new stimulus. So there is a bit of momentum there in the beginning, so it does kind of help give you a little bit of a lift initially. Yeah, and here's the big thing. The older you get, this is a good, this is kind of cool. The older that you get, if you're consistent
Starting point is 00:53:17 with exercise, the further away you are from your peers. The more, the better. So in other words, if you were to compare yourself to your peers and you're a 20-year-old and you work out and you're comparing yourself to other 20-year-olds, you don't really work out, there's a little bit of a difference. When you're 40, that difference is much bigger. And the older you get, the bigger that difference gets to the point where when you get to your
Starting point is 00:53:39 60s and 70s, if you're exercising consistently, you are independent, they aren't. They can't even take care of themselves half the time, and you're fully independent. So that's one of the good things about getting older. You take care of yourself, you maintain a level of fitness that just totally separates you from your peers. It really is like one of the grasses greener than their side, because at that age it just presents different challenges, right? I feel like that they're sure there are some challenges, but it's different than what it was at 2530. So both equally difficult to build muscle.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You gotta be a bit smarter with your approach. Right. Right. Next question is from Magnetic Beauty 101. What do you think of push, pull, and leg routines? Well, this is a perfect transition from that question, right? Because this is what I love this type of routine. I follow this a lot. Like this works for me. But if I have a challenge with it, it's if I'm having a hard time being really consistent with a gym. If you're somebody who religiously hits the gym four times or five times a week, can you never miss a day? Then yeah, there's nothing wrong with a routine like this. I think it's a
Starting point is 00:54:42 great routine. If you're getting to every muscle group two to three times a week and you're doing that consistently, I think there's a lot of value in training this way. As I've gotten older and other priorities in my life with business and family, it's become harder and harder for me to train four, five days a week really consistently to run a routine like this. And so I'm back to running a more full body type of routine and it just serves me better. I know that I had a rough week just two weeks ago where I only trained once. You know, and if I only trained once, I wouldn't want to land on just a, you know, just a leg day or just a, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:21 chest and back day and then I missed the other body parts. Like at least I got a full body routine. My body did not miss getting stimulated. My entire body didn't get miss stimulated that previous week just because I was inconsistent with everything else. Yeah, so for those of you listening who don't aren't familiar with what this type of routine is,
Starting point is 00:55:40 so it's a type of a split routine where you break the body up into body parts and you train different body parts on different days. So a push day refers to typically chest shoulders and triceps, a pole day typically refers to back and biceps, and then of course leg refers to the legs. Now if you only work out three days that week, you hit each of those body parts once, one time.
Starting point is 00:56:04 If you do a full body routine and you work out three times that week, you hit each of those body parts once, one time. If you do a full body routine and you work out three times that week, you hit all the body parts three times. So that increased frequency, like Adam's talking about, tends to make it superior. To get the same kind of frequency out of a push pull routine, a push pull leg routine, you wouldn't be able to, because there's seven days in a week, and so at most you hit each area twice a week,
Starting point is 00:56:26 you'd have to make up the difference with volume. Now, I know what the studies say and the studies say, if the volume is the same, there's not that big of a difference. I disagree, I've trained lots and lots of people, I've trained myself, and more frequency, I say 80% of the time was better. It's just not that. I mean, even nobody ever trains like a study for six weeks.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It just doesn't, real life happens. And that, I mean, that to me is the real difference maker in the stuff that we talk about on the show is that we always take into consideration like behavior and the behaviors that I've seen, training tons of people for this long, is that, and myself, who's a fit, who's supposed to be a fitness fanatic.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Life happens. And sometimes I only get to the gym once anyway. And if I'm gonna do that, I much rather not be in the middle of my push pull split routine. I'd much rather be doing a full body so that like I said, at least everything is getting touched. Otherwise, you have these weeks where inconsistency might happen.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And then what do you do when you start over again? And everybody tends to start over either the beginning of the push pull routine or they start over on the muscle group that they love training. It's just, it's behaviors. Yeah, but here's the point that I wanna make though. Let's just say, you're right, this doesn't happen in real life, but let's just pretend that it's perfect. Push, pull legs versus full body, everything's perfect. So let's compare
Starting point is 00:57:50 the two. Here's why I still think more frequency is better for most people. You get to practice the exercises more often. So even though the volume might be controlled for, you might hit your legs twice a week. So you're squatting twice a week, which is a very complex Exercise and a lot of the gains you get from a squat is the central nervous system adaptation the practicing of the exercise a full-body routine means You can practice squatting at least three times that week So it's that practice element that everybody forgets That I think is extremely important and if you're super advanced that might be not as important But like I said this is my 100% belief,
Starting point is 00:58:26 about 80 to 85% of everybody listening right now is going to get better results across the board on a full body routine than they would on any kind of a split, including a push pull leg routine. And by the way, yes, push pull leg, and those kind, they can be effective. I mean, we have a program that follows a split called MAPSplit.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But for most people, the full body just always works out that. But it's still like in progression after aesthetic, which like this is, you know, like, there's something a little bit more advanced. And so I look at it like that. I look at it like an advanced technique. Like you're mentioning the practicing element. It's a huge component.
Starting point is 00:59:01 You got to really get familiar with all these exercises in a much better approach for doing that is the full body routines. Next question is from Epic mantra fitness. What are your thoughts on the statement you can't judge someone's health by looking at them? I would say this, I would say you can see a certain amount of someone's health, right? You can't see everything, but there is a certain amount of someone's health. You can see a certain amount of someone's health, right, you can't see everything, but there is a certain amount of someone's health,
Starting point is 00:59:28 you can see by looking at them, but there's a caveat. What is your filter? Are you yourself a healthy person? So I'll explain what I mean. If you had asked me to someone look healthy when I was in my late teens, very insecure, super into bodybuilding. I just needed to build muscle
Starting point is 00:59:47 because I hated being skinny all that stuff. And you showed me a ultra ripped, shredded, muscular person, I would have been like, yes, that's healthy. Today, oftentimes I can see somebody that looks like that and I know, no, they don't look healthy. So it's the person who's looking. And here's your evidence right here, okay?
Starting point is 01:00:06 You got so many people that do so many things to their body to make them look better, but in reality, they're, it's all fake and false. Everything from plastic surgery to anabolic steroids and drugs and all that stuff. That, you know, it just becomes extreme. And because so many other people are unhealthy, they look at that and they think they're attractive.
Starting point is 01:00:24 So if you're a healthy person, you can usually see a decent amount of someone's health simply by looking at, of course it's not 100%. Well, and I also think too, this is totally different when you're looking at pictures versus somebody in real life. I mean, there's just so many examples of filters and ways that people have hid dark dark eye circles and like real visible signs
Starting point is 01:00:49 that their body is fighting something internally. And I think that, I mean, this is a natural thing. I think that people have that's in our DNA to where we can see somebody and we can see visible signs of unhealth. That's something that we're sort of geared towards, especially when we're going to reproduce with somebody. That's something that I think that it's weird that you would deny the fact
Starting point is 01:01:14 that we're not constantly judging people based upon what they're presenting. I think that So I think that, you know, and I don't know if this is inferring, you know, the whole weight at any size being healthy and all that kind of stuff, like if that's being thrown in the mix because that's a totally different conversation. I don't think we can. Just because, I mean, you just mentioned a great point, Sal, is that if you asked me when I was 20 something years old, which by the way, already schooling behind me, years of training people, a fitness professional, think I know a lot about it, I would still have been way off on it.
Starting point is 01:01:52 So I think that the majority of people cannot judge this. We have just, and we've been conditioned to look at someone's body and assume that because they look a certain way that they are considered healthy. Look at the covers of shape magazine, men's health, muscle and fitness, this, uh, your Instagram celebrities, celebrities in general, like everything that we've been told, like this is an example of health many times. And much of what we used to talk about when we first started mind pump was uncovering this was that your fitness professional or this person who we are highlighting as the pinnacle of health is not healthy at all.
Starting point is 01:02:30 They're taking antiball steroids, they have a terrible relationship with their body image, they have a terrible relationship with their friends, their family, there's so many things that encompass health that you can't see. And I also know what I've dealt with personally myself. I have to be in, if I looked at the last 20 years, I have to be in the lower, not definitely not the worst at all, but I would say I've been the lower percentile
Starting point is 01:02:54 of what I would consider my best aesthetic shape. But I have to say that I'm probably in the best overall health shape I've ever been in my life because of the other balances, my financial health, my spiritual health, my relationship health with my family, with my friends, the job that I'm doing, the things that I'm, the other aspects that take care of an encompassed health in my life, meditation, reading,
Starting point is 01:03:18 all these things that I was not doing to take care of my complete spectrum of health, I wasn't doing before, but if you look, if we were to take my shirt off and show a picture of me versus what I looked like just six years ago, someone would be like, oh my God, Adam is so unhealthy now compared to what he used to be. You know what's funny? Yeah, I would agree with like the general person for sure.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I don't think like a lot of people pick up on those signs. Even I would have tried. Or even aware of it. I do think there's ways to learn that and that's something that we've done is health professionals, we've learned all those signs, or like, I would have tried. Or even aware of it. I do think there's ways to learn that, and that's something that we've done is health professionals. We've learned all those signs and symptoms, and like, as a professional,
Starting point is 01:03:51 you could point out just by the posture of somebody too, a lot of times, whether or not they're ill, or they have visible signs that their skin is, you know, like, looks a certain color, or something like that. Yeah, a healthy person would be able to see that you're healthy, you know? It really depends on your... They gotta be really healthy, though, when we like that. Yeah, a healthy person would be able to see that you're healthy.
Starting point is 01:04:05 It really depends on your... They got to be really healthy, though, to do that. What I'm saying is you're right. We got to be educated, too. Well, look at what we consider health. Youth, that's what we consider healthy. Anything that looks young, so a woman that has her hair colored so that there's no grays, the average unhealthy person would say, well, they're healthier, right?
Starting point is 01:04:25 A big fake butt, some people might be like, oh yeah, she looks healthy, or a guy that's all roided out and got a six pack or whatever. Yeah, he looks healthy. So it takes a healthy filter to be able to look at someone and say, are they really, really healthy overall? And there's a lot you could tell by meeting someone and talking to him too.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Sometimes you look at someone and physically, they seem pretty healthy. You start talking to them, and you're like, well, especially the mental health aspect. Yeah, I mentioned it. Yeah, that's really hard to see. Obviously unless you're in a room with them talking for one. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:04:55 So, okay, fun game for us to play then right now. Okay. Of our other friends and peers in our space. Oh gosh. Think name two or three people that come to mind right away that you think of like really embodying Or compass like full spectrum health that are really healthy that we've seen and hung out with in person. Okay now I've got two right away that come to mind now nobody's perfect So we're not gonna know. I don't want to give like an example and then think oh this person's perfect
Starting point is 01:05:21 You mean just people that we know that you meet and you go well this, this person's terrible. Well, yeah, we're sending it. We're making a claim right now that we can look at somebody and say that they are healthy and they embody health. And so I'll give you mine since I'm the one that started to come out of that. Like two friends of ours that I look at, every time I see them in person, they just, they glow of health to me.
Starting point is 01:05:42 And that's Max Lugavir and Ben Greenfield. Yeah. Ben has to have some of the the craziest looking skin and hair. And when you're in person with him, it looks crazy. He looks 10 years younger than what he really is. And he doesn't seem to age. We've known each other now for six years. You say Paul check on some. Yeah. Paul would be a Paul would be another one. Yeah. I would say, I mean, maybe I'm cheating here, but I'd put Doug in the category. Oh, yeah, Doug's absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And now I'm not. That's not fair, we seem every day. Well, but I know him better, right, than anybody. And I'm counting all of it, right? All of the, just mental health and all spiritual. That's a syringes, too. And Doug, Serene, who's on our YouTube channel, when you meet her, she seems like a very secure,
Starting point is 01:06:22 vibrant, healthy, vibrant individual. But yeah, if you have unhealthy filter on, you know, if you got glasses on that, through your own insecurities and your own, you know, misconceptions of what health looks like, you're not gonna see health, you're gonna see your own unhealthy filter through with other people.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And that's my case why I don't think anyone can judge it. I think it would be hard for us as trained professionals, seen tons of examples, but like Justin alluded to, there's other things that encompass health that even our eyes can't necessarily see. I threw out someone's name like Ben. For all I know, Ben is like internally suppressing all this shit inside of him
Starting point is 01:07:04 that he doesn't feel like he's himself or he's going through and Possible I can't tell that I got someone Arthur Brooks Arthur Brooks to me when you talk to him and meet him and see him and He comes across a very calm demeanor. Yes, very good generally balanced healthy Individual that's that's one example Well, what I what I love of why I wanted to do this is that I Guarantee you that there's we didn't name you know a hundred people that look to the average person of that we've That have been on this podcast that they look like the healthiest the most ripped the most fit and like they would be in that category and we named off kind of average looking kind of bodies. I mean bends a little more ripped in Leigh. I'm looking pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah, crazy. Yeah, he looks pretty crazy right now, but not
Starting point is 01:07:48 crazy crazy, not like he's a average person. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, everybody else, Max, not so much Paul check. I mean, Paul check, considering his age. Yeah, that, that dude doesn't even make sense. Next question is from her, Ken Schaker. How do you set up the quack episodes? How do you choose the questions? How do you prepare your answers? And when do you find out what the questions will be? There's very little. Are we gonna be real honest here?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah, yeah, no. I think it's important because I think we don't cherry pick questions. It's really extremely random. It's literally which one of us speaks to us. Which one of us three gets to it first? Like, we all are always doing lots of different projects. And so when we come in the office,
Starting point is 01:08:31 first thing in the morning, Sal might be on the phone with his book at a time, Justin may be booking something with Malsaft Doug's always got something going on. So I might go like, oh, I see that the guys are all really busy. Let me be the one to get on here real quick and pick, you know, four questions. I tend to try and pick personally. I tend to try and pick questions that get a lot of likes, meaning that other people want to hear us talk about it. So
Starting point is 01:08:54 I, I, something they got no likes or nobody really sort of that one person wants to hear it. I try and pick the ones that there's more than one person that's like wanting to hear the answer to that. But there's really no rhyme or reason of how we choose them. We do, and then the other guys don't know. These questions that we have right now, I picked these this morning, Sal and Justin got zero time to prep.
Starting point is 01:09:15 No one has primed for prep, so we don't prep our answer. No, I think that there may be some benefit to prepping a little bit, just looking at the question five minutes before, so you can kind of get your, what you're gonna say organized, so you can kind of get your, what you're going to say organized. But really, I like the fact that, you know, what comes out is our first experience.
Starting point is 01:09:32 So it turns into a good discussion. By the way, for those of you who have never asked this a question for these episodes, it's super easy. You go to the Mind Pump Instagram page. It's Mind Pump Media, and then go to the Qua. It's QUAH meme and right underneath Post Your Question. And if you do it every week, I think we post them, how many times a week do we post them? The odds are in your favor. Yeah. Especially if it's thought provoking. I think too,
Starting point is 01:10:01 like we just, we revisit a lot of similar topics, but if we've done it recently, we try to avoid the redundancy of it, but I know people get something out of us going back over a topic in more depth, so we look for opportunities to do that, or but mainly it's interesting questions. It's ones that are thought-provoking,
Starting point is 01:10:22 or obviously related to health and fitness are those are the best. Yeah, and here's the other thing too. When we first started doing those, we thought to ourselves, well, people don't be asking a lot of the same questions over and over again. But then we remembered what it was like. To be a trainer.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah, and here's the answer. I answer the same question a thousand times. To the same person. Yeah. When you're working with somebody and they were having, you're talking about changing their behaviors and changing the way they eat and how they should become active, and they've never done it before.
Starting point is 01:10:51 They've never been consistent before. It's a lot over and over again conversations. Many times said differently, maybe introduced differently, using different examples, telling different stories. and eventually the person really understands what you're trying to say. This is just it, like this happened many times in my career and we see this happen today still with these quads.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Like if you're somebody who's listened to every single episode since day one, you pretty much know our stance on everything, but every time we have to revisit something that's similar to something we've talked about before, somebody shares something different, or we convey the message a little bit different. And I remember all the time training clients,
Starting point is 01:11:33 where I know I said this thing like 10 times. I've answered this question 10 times, but it was the way I answered it on the 10th time. That hit a chord for them. That was like, oh shit, that makes total sense. Or it just related to something in their life where the light bulb went off and then they now, and that's how we look at these is that,
Starting point is 01:11:52 yeah, there's, every one of these questions, we've answered somewhat like this before. There's nothing in here that's completely. Many times. Yeah, many times over. But because it's worded different, it's asked by a different person and we've maybe not addressed it in six months or a year,
Starting point is 01:12:07 we answer it, and then in hopes that there's, you know, hundreds, maybe thousands of people are listening this time to go like, oh, I get it now. Yes, the goal is to create a-ha moments for people listening, and the goal is also to strengthen and reinforce those moments over time. So one of the best things you could do, and this is, again, this is experience with working with the trainer, excuse me, working with clients as a trainer, is this, you listen to
Starting point is 01:12:34 the podcast, listen to the questions, if you see that the same question comes up, keep going, keep listening over and over and over and over and over again. And what will end up happening is little by little, you will change the way you think about yourself, you will change the way you think about exercise. And not just from outside, oh, I know this answer, I know what they're gonna say, but I mean really knowing and adopting it as part of,
Starting point is 01:12:58 you know, how you treat yourself, how you exercise and how you feed yourself. And so that's really the goal with these questions. And so if you haven't asked this one, go to the MindPump Media official page post questions. And if you do it every week, I guarantee at some point we'll pick your question and answer it for you.
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