Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1353: Ways to Avoid Regaining Lost Weight, Taking Naps to Make Up for Lost Sleep, How to Increase Calories Without Resorting to Protein Powders & More

Episode Date: August 7, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about taking a nap to make up for lost sleep, ways to consume more calories beside protein powders, advice for someone wh...o used to be chubby and is now scared to put on weight due to body dysmorphia, and whether it is possible to start a fitness career as a side hustle. Are there any other feeder leagues that can take on the big dogs? (5:40) Everything is politized in 2020. (13:15) The real estate market doesn’t make sense! (14:18) Can you improve your eyesight through red-light therapy? (16:37) Artifact, making podcasts more personal. (20:10) Conspiracy theories are flying everywhere. Are we being manipulated? (25:20) Mind Pump Investments: Lordstown, car companies competing with tech companies & MORE. (30:03) Fasting and the ketogenic diet for improved mental clarity and performance. (35:05) #Quah question #1 – If you are not able to get 8 hours of sleep in a row, is it worth it to try and take a nap to make up for it? (42:12) #Quah question #2 – If you find yourself having a hard time eating enough food throughout the day due to a busy life, what are some ways to implement more food besides protein powders? Do you use larger/higher calorie meals or snacks? (47:54) #Quah question #3 – What is your advice for someone who used to be chubby and is now scared to put on weight due to body dysmorphia? (51:42) #Quah question #4 – I am interested in working in the fitness field. I had planned to change careers, but I recently had a child. I’m nervous to gamble on a new career path in my current situation, but am very passionate about fitness. Is it possible to start it as a side hustle to safely test the waters? Or am I stuck till I grow a pair and jump in with two feet? (57:43) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Performance ½ off!! **Promo code “GREEN50” at checkout** Giants fan, Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson, buys XFL Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Declining eyesight can be improved by looking at red light, pilot study says YC-backed Artifact looks to make podcasts more personal Move over Nikola: A new electric truck SPAC called Lordstown is forming and the shares are surging Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. POWER UP YOUR GAINS WITH A POWER NAP Mind Pump #1282: The #1 Key To Consistently Building Muscle & Strength (Avoid Plateaus!) Mind Pump #1027: 3 Steps To Speed Up Your Metabolism CPPS Coaches Think You’re Metabolically Healthy? Only 12% of Americans Fit the Bill Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Brendan Schaub (@brendanschaub)  Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by viewers and listeners just like you. That's right, Bob. Now, the way we opened this episode today was with a 30 minute introductory portion.
Starting point is 00:00:29 So we didn't answer fitness questions in the first 38 minutes, but we did talk about current events. We talked about scientific studies, some cool stuff in that first 38 minutes. But if you wanna just skip to the fitness questions, that's 38 minutes later. You're a skipper. So I'm gonna give you the whole breakdown of today's episode.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We open up by talking about the rock. He bought the XFL for $15 million. Sounds like a steal. If you ask me, people's eyebrow. Then we talk about the real estate market right now, like the stock market, doesn't make any sense. I don't know what that means, but we'll see. Then I talk about a study showing,
Starting point is 00:01:03 very small study showing that red light therapy can improve eyesight. That's a small study, so take it with a grain of salt. But it's just another study that shows the potential benefits of red light therapy. Now the established benefits are, it helps with wrinkles, stretch marks, it helps with recovery of injuries, may have some effects on the metabolism through boosting the mitochondrial production of ATP. Might help regrow here.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Regrow. Actually, that's established. It does help regrow hair. That's not a joke. Now, the company that we work with, Juve, in our opinion, makes the best red light devices you can find anywhere. They have the devices that are like the ones used
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Starting point is 00:02:04 with a purchase of $500 and more free shipping and 0% APR financing for some of their products for 12 months or for 18 months. There you go, you're welcome. Then we talked about the Artifact Company. This is a really interesting, you won't want to miss that one. Then we talked about Conspiracy, Theories. I came up with a new one, actually I didn't.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I got a meme pointing me in that that direction so hold on to your hats. Don't hurt my head. Then we talked about a new motor electric company called Lordstown. And then I talked about fasting and the ketogenic diet. I'm trying to maximize my brain's performance right now. So not so much focused on strength. A more focused on cognitive performance. This means I'm not eating any carbohydrates, I'm on a higher fat ketogenic diet. This is what works well for me. And I'm eating a lot of grass-fed meat as a better fatty acid profile, easier to digest.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And my favorite company that delivers grass-fed meat to my door is butcher box. Now we have a massive hookup with butcher box right now. If you go to butcherbox.com and use the code, mind pump, you'll get some exclusive offers that are saved only for mind pump listeners. Then we got into answering the questions. Here's the first one. Does person wants to know,
Starting point is 00:03:20 if you can't get a full eight hours of sleep, should you take a nap during the day? Does that fix the problem? Does it help? What's the deal with that? Now during that conversation, I talked about one of my hacks. I like to take a 20 or 30 minute nap during the day, but I use brain FM. Brain FM plays certain sounds and music that gets your brain into the sleeping wavelength.
Starting point is 00:03:42 That actually gets me to sleep faster and deeper and then I wake up more refreshed. If you go to brain.fm-mindpump, we hooked you up with a discount and a free session, a free, excuse me, five session trial. Here's the next question. This person wants to know, if it's hard for you to get enough food throughout the day,
Starting point is 00:04:02 what are some good ways to implement more food, like larger meals, snacks, shakes? What are your strategies? Just add cheese. The third question, what is your advice for someone who used to be chubby and now is scared to put on weight due to body dysmorphia? So we talk a little bit about body dysmorphia
Starting point is 00:04:19 in that part of the episode. And the final question, this person wants to get into the fitness field as a career, but is having cold feet, not sure if they should jump all the way in or start out as a side hustle. So we give our opinions on the current state of the fitness industry. And if we think it's a good idea to jump all the way in or just test the waters with your big toe. Also, this month, all month long, maps performance is 50% off. This is a great workout program.
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Starting point is 00:05:12 Non-traditional exercises in it. It has a special emphasis on mobility. In fact, this is the only Maps program with Mobility sessions specifically designed to improve the way that you move. This program is one of our most highly rated programs We don't often put it on 50% off sale, but we are this month. Here's how you get that discount. Just go to mapsgreen.com. That's M-A-P-S-G-R-E-N.com. And use the code green50. That's G-R-E-E-N. 5-0. No space for the discount. I got a question for you sports experts. Who sports ball? Trippie. Big news and sports these days. Well, you know how we were talking last time about how the ratings that they were anticipated crazy ratings Yeah, or maybe MLB
Starting point is 00:05:53 Watt Watt They got not what they anticipated and then it dropped considerably and we were speculating about you know What could have caused that whatever? Littical two politicals would have a lot of people or say, it's too much, whatever. I know Brendan Chobb said the same thing on his podcast. He thinks the same thing. That's why he thinks their ratings went down. But anyway, so for a while now, there's been,
Starting point is 00:06:17 there've been, and I say a while, over the last, I don't know, 20 years, there've been these competing leagues that have tried to compete with, you know, these big league monsters. Yeah, like the NBA, MLB, the NFL, right? XFL, remember the XFL has been tried a couple times. Oh, yeah. Could not compete because nobody wants to leave the NFL.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Do you think it's prime now? Do you think it's prime now to compete with these leagues? No. You still don't think so? No, I don't know, Phil. Do you think it's prime now? Do you think it's prime now to compete with these leagues? No. You still don't think so? No, I don't. Cause I heard the rock, the rock bot XFL for 15 million, I believe, maybe Dougie Dull checked my numbers. It is cheap to me.
Starting point is 00:06:54 It seems like it's an expensive, especially for the rock. That's like months, months pay. You went through the couch cushions. Yeah, he's like, oh, just buy this thing. You know what I'm saying? Oh, like a 15 million. You might have just bought it for the URL. So you still don't think it's like, like, let's say, no, I don't know. No, he's like, oh, I just buy this thing. You know what I'm saying? Oh, like $15 million. Right. You might have just bought it for the URL. So you still don't think it's like, like, let's say.
Starting point is 00:07:07 No, I don't. No, it's just because those brands have established themselves so well. I mean, there's people all over the world that migrate to the United States to play in those leaks, bro. It's not just here in the United States that those brands are big. They are, they're continuing to grow. International brands. Yeah. Yeah, but if they keep losing, of course, they could always stay in the United States that those brands are big. They are continuing to grow. They're international brands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But if they keep losing, of course, they could always say, you know, you know, why? Because even if it's awesome, right, it'll always play second fiddle to those brands and it'll be scoffed at. It'll be like, oh, it's the XFL. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you're good in the XFL.
Starting point is 00:07:40 That's cool. It's, it's, so it won't be that. It's kind of similar to how, how division one athletes look at division two athletes. My good buddy could have went to a division one school, but he would have had to red shirt. Even then, he would have fought for a starting position. Or he could have went to D2 and been a fucking stud. None of you know who he was. He was one of the leader in sacks and interceptions.
Starting point is 00:08:06 He was a bad ass in D2. Didn't go to the NFL afterwards. Nobody, nobody. It doesn't happen, but yeah, it's, it's rare. Right. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I can see that too. And also with like the UFC versus something like a strike force back in the day, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:22 that's kind of like it. In terms of like them being able to get the top talent, they're always gonna go to the UFC. Okay, so here's my question then, okay, so. It'll be a feeder league at best. Well, I was just gonna say, fine, they're not gonna surpass, even if the NFL, let's say all these big leagues, just continue to tank.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I think they could always pivot out of it, but let's just say they keep continuing to tank. You still think XFL wouldn't beat them, but what would be the role, what place? How would you make it successful? Well, it's like, so, okay, is there money to potentially be made there? Okay, maybe.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I certainly wouldn't want to run a business like that where it's like, they were the NFL is gonna poach all your best players. Just like, I think Justin just said it right with the UFC. You're gonna, all these other leagues that could potentially compete with these, they'll never compete, they'll just end up being feeder leagues
Starting point is 00:09:13 because they have so much money. They can't, they can't give contracts like what was just given to Malone. I mean, you can't give a contract like that. Yeah, my home's just got like a, what was the number that my 504 million? Yeah, like you said, I had like a half a billion dollar contract. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Like, yeah, the whole exit, the whole XFL league won't even be worth it. Exactly. It's worth 15 million. It's a sneeze. You can't, you can't have a 15 million dollar league and pay an athlete a half a billion dollars. You're saying? That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, it's not even on the same planet. It's right, it's comical, right? And what will happen is, you know, even, let's say there's a lot of guys coming in a D2 or even D1 that didn't make it to the pros that would love an opportunity to go play. Just like a Rena football. Rena football's the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 To the Canadian league. Yeah. You know, there's actually leagues over in Europe too that do, you know, some bit of football, but yeah, at best, it's gonna be kind of like an arena football kind of entertainment thing. And I heard, like, actually, that when they relaunched the NFL, it was picking up a bit more steam
Starting point is 00:10:17 than it did the first time around, so maybe that's where the rock had interest was like, oh, they had a little bit of traction. So what I think they did smart the second time around was they didn't try and compete with the NFL season. So there's some people, and which, that then it has a place to have like a little market there. Like, you know, there's people that are such die hard NFL fans
Starting point is 00:10:38 or just football in general. Yeah, football in general, that when the NFL season is over, they still want their football. And if they can watch another league, then, okay. Well, the timing may be good for them to get more eyes, though, right? Because if you're watching one of these big leagues and you're one of the people that got turned off
Starting point is 00:10:54 for whatever reason we were speculating it was too political, it could be whatever reason. It's turning people off. If they're agnostic or whatever politically, I feel like that would be the best thing he could do. Yeah, and maybe it'll, I mean, not beat the NFL, but maybe bring enough eyes to it to where it brings the value up and get some interest. I don't think that might be a good opportunity. The NFL didn't go as hard. The NBA, in my opinion, is the only one that went hard. The rest of them, the rest of them, I appreciate how they did it.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's a, you know, there was, there was a, there was a, there was a lot more stuff. And the M.O.B. there was a mix of guys that kneeled, there was a mix of guys that stood, right, you know, there was, they, they did the BLM on the mound, so there was a couple of things in there, but it wasn't like, it wasn't as heavy as the NBA. The NBA was like in your face about it,
Starting point is 00:11:38 the entire viewing, everything from what you were viewing, what you were listening to, it's, you know, and then on top of that, the commercials that were being promoted during that time So they out of all the leagues they went the hardest on that the NFL. No, I don't I don't see I don't I don't know what rocks angle is on this you know 15 million sounds so cheap Of course it's I'm like that. I always swoop and I'm well think about it He might be able to just double his money real quick and just so merch and then don't even do it.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Well, yeah, at 15 million, the idea of it being this kind of small feeder league could be worth it in itself, you know, building a decent league that is an opportunity. There's so many people that are coming out of college that probably get overlooked, you know, because a scout didn't see them. And this could be an opportunity. They pay the players a lot of guys that would love to go play football for $100, because a scout didn't see them. And this could be an opportunity. They pay the players a lot of guys that would love to go play football for $100,000 a year. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Doing what you love with the opportunity of maybe making, but it'll always be that. I do this XFL and hopes the NFL find tension to me. Yeah. Do you guys remember that women's football league were... The Andre football league. Without what it was called.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. So condescending. You know what was condescending about it? That's how they knew they had to get views by doing something. Well, here's the part that was funny to me. I've seen a couple of the games and the girls are bad asses. Oh yeah, yeah. Like they're legit tackles. They're violent. They're built like, I mean, monsters and they're crushing each and then but they're playing football and like little bikinis. It's silly. You know, it is crazy to me that everything is so politicized sports. Medicine is politicized.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I'm watching this whole debate. I'm not going to get into, you know, what I think is right over a hydrochloric win. Since when has medicine been politicized? Isn't that strange? It's a new one. Yeah. That's the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I feel like medicine is just, here's the studies. It works and it doesn't and you're the doctor you decide. That's why I feel like it's just- There's a lot of sciences that are under attack these days. It's really interesting to see how politics have bled through just like, you know, all these different studies of science. I've seen it happen with nutrition.
Starting point is 00:13:44 You know, I've been in fitness for decades and I've never seen nutrition be politicized, but all of a sudden, if you eat meat, you hate the environment. And so you're either one way or the other and it's like, oh my gosh, and they're politicized, everything. It's poisoning, everything.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Biology, I mean, everything's up for graph. Pretty soon we can't talk about anything at all. Yeah, you know, I think everyone's just gonna look at 2020 is like a mole again. It's just it just doesn't I can't say I'm sick fucking that's just like the 13th we song hard and miss it. Yeah, well It's just doesn't even the whole thing doesn't make sense the stock market doesn't make sense real estate doesn't make sense right now I can't wrap my brain around what we're seeing in real estate right now. I mean, I shared this thing. You know, a price is generally went up a little bit. They're expecting a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:28 They are. That's, there's bidding wars, dude. I, I, I told you guys the other day that I've been looking at properties and stuff. And, you know, Katrina and I, oh, we find this place. Oh, we like this. If we got it,
Starting point is 00:14:37 if we get it for that number, then this makes sense, right? So it's smart, halfway, investment, property, state, live there for a little bit type of deal. And bidding war. I mean, and this house has shit that needs to be worked on still. So I would normally look at a property like this and go like, okay, this is what they're asking. Drop it by $20,000, $30,000 contingent on all these things
Starting point is 00:14:56 being, or contingent on all these things being fixed. And what's happening, somebody else is coming over the top by $50,000 to $100,000 for it. It just blows my mind when we know that there is 28 million potential foreclosures right down the road for us. Like, that is so great. Now I understand the cash is cheap. Like I was just talking to somebody in DMs
Starting point is 00:15:16 that in Canada, they're doing like 1.3 or 1.5 interest rates. I know. What? Yeah, I thought our 2.5, 2.6 was insane. That's what I heard of. Right. So cash is cheap. And so what we're seeing is opportunists and investors that are coming in all over the
Starting point is 00:15:33 from everywhere that are buying up these places. Yeah. But I mean, sooner or later, they even run out of money and they've bought all their investment properties. So when is this thing going to really reveal itself on what like the new reality is going to be in real estate? Just doesn't make sense. Buckeler Seepel. I know Bitcoin is up finally.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Oh! They've heard of it. Don't you motherfuckers! It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. It's the long play. and then I went down. You forgot all your log in. Oh dude, I don't even know what log in is for it. I've considered it, bro. Well I have Katrina's got to save some. Oh okay.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah, we got it so much. Because you know what happens if you can't. That's the common thing I've heard from you. Yeah, if you can't get in, you're done. Yeah. Yeah. There's no way to get, there was one guy. You can't get it. I think I said this on the podcast,
Starting point is 00:16:15 this one dude had like millions of dollars of Bitcoin because he bought it back when it was like dirt cheap. Yeah. And he wrote the codes down a piece of paper and they lost the paper. Never gone. Yeah. Never get You never get it. I mean, I looked at it as gambling money anyways.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I told you guys that back then. So I'm not millions or even tens of thousands invested. I mean, a thousand bucks in there. And if it turns into something, it turns into something. Hey, I got to bring up a cool study that just came out. It's a small study, very, very small study. So I'm going to give you a little disclaimer. Take it with a grain of salt, okay?
Starting point is 00:16:46 But this study used red light therapy. And by the way, if you're listening and you have a juve red light before you proceed with what I'm about to say, do you own research see if this is okay? This is just the study that I read, right? So people using red light on their eyes, okay? Looking into the red light for short periods of time, had improved eyesight from doing this. So the theorize, so the way red light therapy works
Starting point is 00:17:11 is the red light, this particular wavelength that you'll find in the right devices, right? So, Juve does this. This particular wavelength hits the cells and it causes the mitochondria to produce more ATP. Remember, the mitochondria of cells are like the engines of the cell. The energy producers and the more efficient they are, the better your muscles work, the faster your skin regenerates, the hair grows better, you recover faster. If your mitochondrial works better, you're going to think more clearly.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And so that's essentially what the light was doing or what it does. So they put it on their eyes in this particular study and people got better eyesight. Dude, that's interesting because I remember posting something when I wasn't wearing eye protection and that was in the comments.
Starting point is 00:17:58 It was getting hammered for that fact. It's like, oh, it's getting damaged, you're eyes. No. But yeah, honestly, I mean, this really points to the fact that you need a real high quality out, emitting type of light. And so that's, you know, in terms of like shining in on your eyes, because imagine if you had any kind of like UV
Starting point is 00:18:17 or something damaging, and then you're trying to get that, you know, benefit that the study's highlighting and you're not using something with time. I'm so glad that my pediatrician was savvy to all the red light therapy. He encouraged me to use it on max. So, I mean, and the way I use it is this. I use it the same way that I use,
Starting point is 00:18:38 like we talk about green juice on here, we talk all these the things that we, I look at it like a supplement, right? If I am, if I know that it was a day where I didn't get much good natural sunlight, where I didn't spend at least 20 minutes to an hour outside absorbing the sun, that's when I'm like in front of that light. And if I have a consistent week where I'm spending, you know, we're going to the beach in two days, we'll be there for four days. I'll be out in the sun. I'm not worried about getting my red light therapy.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Right, right. So Jessica's using it on her belly because obviously she's now in the third trimester to prevent or help with stretch marks, which it has clinical applications. But here's the thing. We talked about Crateen many, many times in the podcast. Crateen is by far one of the best supplements
Starting point is 00:19:24 you can take across the board. Now lots of studies are showing its health benefits and people are actually starting to get it to use it for wellness purposes. People who don't even care about building muscle and strength are taking creatine because of the cognition and helps with heart health. And the way creatine works is it helps your body
Starting point is 00:19:42 produce more ATP, exactly what red light therapy does. So shining this on the biggest organ in your body, get your mind out of the gut or just, is your skin, right? So you stand in front of this with your skin. Thanks for acknowledging it. You're going to produce, boom. You're going to produce a lot more ATP in your body,
Starting point is 00:20:04 so that's gonna give you some health benefits as a result of it. Wow, that is cool. You know, I was just reading something, obviously we're in the podcasting space, and there's like all these different types of markets kind of popping up now that I'm paying attention to. And there was this company that I just read about
Starting point is 00:20:22 that was trying to approach the really small niche type content that people are putting out, but specifically, they're providing a service to basically capture stories and things from family members and be able to produce something that's a high production and to have that available. So they're like, pitching it like your uncle has this crazy story from back in the day or like Vietnam or whatever. And like you're getting this really like crazy detailed story like captured and they provide the service to address that.
Starting point is 00:21:01 So they charge, you know, a couple hundred bucks to kind of do this whole thing for people, but it's like almost like this, this audio catalog that like they're going to try and pitch to people to start a business with. Wait a minute. So you, you would record a story and this service would put it together and save and start creating like little micro like podcasts with it. Oh, out of your heart. Our defect is what the company's called. Oh, that's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's interesting. It reminds me too of like when you talked about like how cool it is now that we have kind of like a timeline. Yeah. You know with social media's and whatnot. Like this is just another way, another service to kind of capture the stories and history with people. That's why you know, okay, you watch, you left the room, right? You watched Archive with me, didn't you? Who watched it all the way with me with the key. Okay, you left the room, right?
Starting point is 00:21:46 You watched Archive with me, didn't you? Who watched it all the way with me? Archive. That sci-fi movie that we watched up in Tyler. Yes, I did. So like, I really think that we are gonna see this in art and for sure in our lifetime. It's special, and I think that we especially
Starting point is 00:22:01 are gonna be examples of somebody they can use, right? So somebody who has got, you know, what do we have? 1,300 Doug or 1,400 episodes of one hour to two hour. I mean, I've said every word in my lexicon that you could think of that I would ever use in my daily speech, right? I've used everything in this podcast alone. You have YouTube where we've got recorded.
Starting point is 00:22:24 We've got articles that we've written up. Everything, it would be created in Avatar podcast alone. You have YouTube where we've got recorded. We've got articles that we've written up. Everything, it would create an avatar of us. Yeah, you could build an algorithm around, if you asked this question, what would be an answer that Sal would give with your voice, because it's recorded, it wouldn't be hard to build a virtual version of you that you can converse with.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Why would this not be a business that when you go and you die, that I have an opportunity as someone who's related to you to say, hey, I want to spend that $10,000 to create a virtual cell that I can then communicate with, that don't think that's not coming. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think that's for sure coming. That's really weird.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah, this is another step in that direction for sure. That's some really creepy stuff. So basically, if someone dies and he's like, you know what, I wanna hang out with. I wanna talk with Nana. Yeah, she's like, a conversation like she's right there. And see, for someone who lost his father when he was so young, who has very little of that,
Starting point is 00:23:18 I would eat that up, dude. To be able to potentially communicate, even though it's a virtual version, and people think that's weird, or I wouldn't want it like someone like me would 100%, I would rather have that than what I have right now. Right now I have very little information that's related to him that I can't,
Starting point is 00:23:36 I would love to know if does he think like me, if I asked him a question, I know how I would respond, would he respond similar to me? Like are we alike? Would we have things that we get? I mean, all that stuff for someone like us like your Sunson will we will have that I think for you know your your grandchildren your great-grand
Starting point is 00:23:52 now here's how I think this would be used what it would if celebrities paid have companies do this for them and then you could rent You know talking to the rock or whoever you know, hey, do cooking lessons would you like to talk to you know what's that guys the dude in the restaurant and yeah whatever and whoever right or the the mallet yeah Gordon Ramsay yeah there you go you know I'm saying I mean I can see that like a monetize that that's you know I'm saying yeah like oh you want personal training from Adam Schaefer you know it's really you, like, ah, you suck. Yeah, your butt needs to get bigger. What do you think? I think it's a family thing. More so than anything.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I think it's like the future of how you'll, like, think of it too, if it was something like a funeral home started to offer something like this, where I imagine this, a one hour, two hour, five hour, whatever you want to think about, real of Justin. Justin dies, you know, 50 years from now or whatever, and you go to his funeral home and it's a digital screen that I can click on, and I can watch, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:54 Justin's favorite moments, Justin's sports, Justin's family, and your... Justin's deepest secrets. Yeah. Oh my gosh. No, I mean, don't you think that would be in the show? You can write? Yeah, think of a family member that I mean, I mean don't you think that would be in the ratchers in the shower Think of a family member that's passed for one of you guys
Starting point is 00:25:08 You don't think that would be so cool to be able to go and like I don't know man It's hard to wrap my mind. Yeah, it's it's such a new thing that it's yet is really hard to like really visualize it Super weird. Yeah speaking of weird obviously we're in a weird time and conspiracy theories are just I feel like it's prime No, no, I don't got a new one. Okay, maybe maybe I do. Oh, so you know, it's it's like conspiracy theories are flying everywhere And Justin and I love for entertainment purposes. We love to sit down and share them and talk about them and we kind of filter it out That way and then and then I read this meme and then something don on me So I'm gonna read you the meme and then we'll I'll and then something don on me. So I'm gonna read you the meme and then, I'll tell you what don on me.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So here's what the meme says. It says, just wait until conspiracy theorists discover they're part of a conspiracy to use conspiracy theorists to spread disinformation. I got so many sent me that same meme. Via conspiracy theorists. So essentially what it's saying is, what if everybody's being manipulated by all these,
Starting point is 00:26:04 and I started thinking, especially politically speaking, if you're on one side, you think that this is what's crazy, and this is what's running the world if you're on this side, you think, what if everybody's just being manipulated like crazy? Yeah, I just feel like it's a big cluster of chaos that they just, like, they're spreading out anything to just get people like all over the place.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Like, you don't know where to go and deter into for truth. I mean, what if to me? are spreading out anything to just get people all over the place. You don't know where to go and deter into for truth. I mean, what if to me? That's, dude, I think you're naive if you think otherwise. Yeah, right. I think you're naive if you don't, there's so much money and power behind all this stuff that we're talking about to think that we're not all being manipulated and being, no matter what, I don't care who you subscribe to
Starting point is 00:26:45 or what channel or what side you're on the political fence, if you think that you are not somewhat being manipulated by the information that you're only getting read or fed, I just follow money and people in power. Those are my two go-tos to see how the trends move in terms of world climate and also what kind of policies are trying to be enacted? Well, I just lived by that old saying
Starting point is 00:27:10 that belief half of what you see and nothing that you hear. So it's just like, I need to see it with my own eyes, first of all, and then even then I'm gonna question it. If it's even a reality or true, especially if I see it on fucking social media, then it's already fallen in that probably not real. And if I hear it, I don true, especially if I see it on fucking social media, then it's already fallen in that probably not real. And if I hear it, I don't believe it until I see it.
Starting point is 00:27:29 It's just crazy to me. And of course, it makes sense. If you're running one side, you would want people to believe one type of conspiracy theory, or series of theories, to discredit the other side, and it's side to maybe create fear. And the same thing happens for the other side. Don't think for a second. Well, I mean, I just feel it stems back to getting people
Starting point is 00:27:52 separated. I mean, like, it's a very effective tactic to spread misinformation to just keep people like completely consumed by their own bias. So they won't even listen to other conversations or change their mind, or unify and collectively unite so that way that actually moves in the right direction. The more separated you can keep everybody, the worse off we're all gonna. Yeah, you know what the antidote to that is?
Starting point is 00:28:18 It's to be present and then just talk to the people around you. Yeah. And connect with real people in front of you and you'll find them. Totally different experience. I'm sure you guys are just good. Like, everybody's so nice, like in person, you go talk to them, the matter, what background there? You know, a Brennan-Shobbrotts thing up
Starting point is 00:28:34 because when he was talking about the whole NBA thing and professional sports and what's going on, and you know, one of the points that he made that I wasn't even aware of is the, what percentage of people are actually on social media? And he says of is the what percentage of people are actually on social media. And he says that there's one in 50 people are only on social media. And so right now, a lot of the conversations that we have and a lot of the things that we share or we talk about are things that we're seeing on Twitter and Instagram.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It just seems a lot louder and bigger than that. Right. But it's not even the majority. It's not even, it's not even the little eruptions. Yeah, it's not even close to even the majority. It's not even, it's not even, it's not even the... It's a little eruption. Yeah, it's not even close. Close to half the majority. It's like, it's a very small percentage of the population and many of them are just loud.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They're loud, obnoxious, regardless of what side they're on. And I think taking that at face value and understanding that, well, I'm not gonna give myself caught in this bullshit because you're not even a representation of fucking real people. I meet real people every day. And when I talk to them, they're fucking fine.
Starting point is 00:29:26 They're normal. Most people are reasonable. Most people want safety, they want security, they want what's best for their family, they want opportunities. That's most people. And again, most people are reasonable. When you sit down and you can talk,
Starting point is 00:29:40 unless everybody's riled up from social media, you have normal conversations, you can have good discussions. It feels good to go out into the real world and be present. And we're not doing that as much as we usually do because we're all at home. Right, that's what the frustration is. That other side of it is like this old virus thing
Starting point is 00:29:58 is really put a wedge in that even further. Totally, totally. I got some for you guys, transition into business talk. So keep an eye out for a company called Lordstown. Lordstown Motors, they're a, right now like the electric car, you know, thing, and especially electric trucks,
Starting point is 00:30:14 is becoming super competitive, right? You saw Tesla reveal. Tesla revealed. I like the semi. Just know, just really, just really, you have to pick up trucks. Yeah, Tesla did theirs first, you know, GM and Ford's working on theirs. Nikola or Nikola, how have you say it? There's, there's going to, GM and Ford's working on theirs.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Nikola or Nikola, how have you say it? There's come out, now this Lord's town, also backed by GM, was an old GM factory. They're backing them financially. This startup supposedly has the advantage to get to market before anybody else. Why? So just because they already had all the tools in place.
Starting point is 00:30:44 So they already had everything in place. And they're claimed to fame with a truck is the the the way each one of the wheels like so is electrically powered individually. So that's four engines. Yes. Exactly. It's like four engines built into these. So that's kind of like they're claimed to fame for what makes their truck special in comparison. But the real thing to watch for I think the fact that it's gonna hit market first is just a huge advantage in itself, forget all the attributes. So Tesla really, I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:11 when that brand came out, it destroyed the long held belief that it was impossible to invent a brand new car brand and compete. And you know what, I still think it's extremely difficult. Tesla against all odds did relatively well. I still don't think it's stock as worth as much as it is. I don't think it's accurate. So I think it's silly that it's that expensive. But still they defied all odds. So
Starting point is 00:31:38 now you have all these companies coming and entering the market. That has to be one of the hardest markets to compete. There's so many barriers. There's so many selling cars. You guys, what was it? Is it just Ford and Tesla with the oil and it didn't take a bail out? Something like that. I don't know. I'm back in the day.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Well, so a couple of things. I have a theory on why Tesla is valued so high and why it kind of makes sense, right? Do you guys remember, I forget what company that was, that was starting to give you breaks on your insurance because they could track your patterns, where you move to, your speeds, all these things like that. So I think that of all the car companies that are out there, Tesla is going to provide more digital information
Starting point is 00:32:23 for advertisers and things like that than any other car company. Now imagine a car that is that digitally ran, right? So that's on a platform like that. If he can literally tell you that Justin goes to the grocery store 13 times a month, this is the short store that he shops up. This is where he's at. This is what gas stations he uses. Think of the advertising power,
Starting point is 00:32:47 and then you have this massive monitor inside of your car. It's literally like what Mir is doing right now. But go be the first to communicate to all the different, yeah. Oh yeah. So imagine sensors and things out there. Imagine when your car becomes an advertising tool
Starting point is 00:33:03 that is extremely accurate to your behaviors already. That is extremely valuable. So that is amazing, but I'll give you a little competition to that. So nowadays you buy a brand new car, you plug your phone in, boom, the screen becomes your phone. All of that's already in your phone, not necessarily the car. No, it doesn't really, not like that. It can be. Like if I go on my, if I plug my phone into,
Starting point is 00:33:30 you know, the suburban or whatever. It goes to car play. Car play comes up. The phone has all that information. The phone then can tell me where I want to go, where I don't want to go. More people, I think, like think about it this way. When you go and use your dash or whatever on your car, you probably most likely stick to the phone car play and not necessarily to the Ford or the Chevy or the Toyota. So maybe so I could see how that becomes. Maybe they have a way to compete, but you're competing with a tech company versus, you have car companies
Starting point is 00:34:06 competing with a tech company on tech stuff. So who do you think has the bigger advantages? Oh, yeah. The company that they have the ability to change the specs on your car when something comes out, oh, we found out that cars that with a half a inch lower on their suspension get in less accidents or deal with more stuff. So all of a sudden they send that out Tesla's cars. Oh, I know, I know that part. I mean, so it's your updates. I used to train a guy that was very, very high up at Tesla. And I remember, you know, one day I was training him and he goes,
Starting point is 00:34:32 oh, cool, my car just got faster. I'm like, what? Yeah, they just updated something that now my car goes zero to 60 and like 0.4 seconds faster. Like just like that. That's like that. Yeah, these are the clouds. Right, or get better gas mileage or things like that.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I mean those things, they have, yeah, right, sorry, they have better, they run a battery longer. You get my point, right? So they have the tech to be able to figure those things out, integrate it immediately. You're just, you're talking about car companies competing with a tech company. So that to me, that's why it's valued so high in comparison
Starting point is 00:35:03 to like some of these carcass. All right, so I'm gonna take us to a different topic. You know, lately I've been changing my diet and optimizing things, not for physical strength and performance, but rather for mental performance. Now usually they're very similar, right? What's best for the brain is best for the body, but when you're talking about maximal performance,
Starting point is 00:35:25 then they can diverge a little bit. So for me, in particular, for brain sharpness and for performance, typically this is a ketogenic type diet. I'll do lots of fasting. Fasting, I feel sharper, I feel smarter. Both of those things are not best for muscle performance, strength, and those types of things. And so, you know, I'm in this position where I'm like, do I want to optimize brain
Starting point is 00:35:50 performance or muscle performance? Anything this is a good topic to talk about because there are people who push their bodies to the limit who sometimes want to push their minds to the limit and sometimes one means you're going to suffer with the other one. Ketergenic diet does not give me the best strength and best athletic performance, but it oftentimes does make me feel sharp, alert, and so it's fasting. Fasting, not necessarily the best for performance, phenomenal for the way I think it's good to kind of recognize that going into it so you can wrap your your brain around it. So that way it's like, you know, because it is it is going to be frustrating like going back into the gym and you realize like, you know, it is going to affect the performance on some level. Like I would go through periods where I
Starting point is 00:36:35 would fast a few times for that month and you know, my my performance in the gym was a little bit different, you know, versus me being in a surplus, or even being on a bulk, I could feel like a big massive difference in terms of energy and really getting the intensity factor up quite a bit, but it's good to go through these periods to really focus on different attributes.
Starting point is 00:36:59 So I do think that it's important. Now, is the theory on that, that why you get mental clarity from fasting and the ketogenic diet is because the ketones is just a cleaner burning source of energy. That's the theory, and I don't know if this happens to everybody. Now, studies show a way for me.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah, so there's a lot of... It feels that way for everybody to have talked to you. You know what I know that I ran the diet, whether you're a proit for losing weight, building muscle, or if you're using it for those reasons, the people that are using it to pay attention to mental clarity and sharpness, almost everybody. I don't think I've ever talked to anybody who says they don't notice that. Yeah, so the study, studies show that ketones really benefit people with cognitive issues,
Starting point is 00:37:39 cognitive decline. So when you have somebody who has dementia Alzheimer's, have them go on a ketogenic diet or supplement with exogenous ketones, they notice improvements in mental performance. When you're talking about healthy people, the studies are mixed. I'm just speaking of my own personal experience, especially when I fast, if I fast,
Starting point is 00:38:00 and I do it right, especially if I go into fasting already in ketosis, I am like, even my eyesight feel sharper. It's very strange. I feel like I'm on, almost like I'm on caffeine, but a different type of feeling. Now, yeah, so there's a few different,
Starting point is 00:38:16 obviously there's the medical ketogenic diet. So what would you say your macros look like, and what do your meals look like for your specific ketogenic diet? Okay, so protein is higher than you would have on the medical ketogenic diet, but not super high. I don't think I'm eating more than 120 grams of protein.
Starting point is 00:38:35 What's your source, too? Oh, yeah. So, grass fed meat is, my, that's my top source for whether I'm ketogenic or not. It digest the best. I feel the best, least amount of inflammation. And so like, and then here's the other part. Two or three days a week, I do a fast for most of the day, while I'm trying to focus on maximal brain,
Starting point is 00:38:57 cognitive, that feeling of being alert type performance. So today I fasting, for example, excuse me, so tonight I'll go home, Jessica's already preparing some grass fed tri-tip, so I'll have a nice bit of that, I'll have some avocado with it, and maybe have some nuts. So it's a lot of fat, some protein, and the fats that I'm getting are from the grass fed meat. And then that just makes me feel, again, mentally sharp.
Starting point is 00:39:23 So it's like sometimes I- You know the digestion too. Oh yeah, oh well fasting for me is great for digestion. And then that just makes me feel, again, mentally sharp. So it's like sometimes I- You know, digestion too. For sure. Oh yeah, oh, well fasting for me is great for digest. So it's like I'm either gonna go like, okay, am I gonna go and see what my strength performance can be? Am I gonna get lift more than ever?
Starting point is 00:39:36 Or do I feel like being sharp as hell mentally, doing well in the podcast, writing more content for us, that kind of stuff. And so right now I'm going in that to write. Have you heard how Ben Greenfield does it? Like he gets the, how he manages to get the benefits of ketones without technically being on a ketogenic diet or fasting really, just the way he manages.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Does he take? No, just the way he manages his calorie intake and his carbohydrate intake and then how he exercises towards the end of the evening and then has a meal that is just barely going to feel him and through by the time he wakes up, he's pissing like he's in ketosis. So he does it. He goes in and out.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, he goes in and out. So I think there's benefits to that, right? If you do fluid, if you are a new genre, I'm the opportunity for a diet. I'm diet fluid. Oh, that's a good point. I like that. I don't opportunity for a diet. I'm diet fluid. Oh, that's a good point. I like that. Let's write that one, so. I don't identify with a diet.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, because I do think that there's opportunity for people who, and this is what how I encourage it with family and friends that are asking questions about the benefits of fasting or the benefits of ketogenic diet is like, you don't necessarily need to run these things indefinitely. You know, I don't necessarily need to run these things indefinitely. You can't keep ketones. I don't think that's a good idea. No, you can use, you can use all, what all the research and study says about ketones
Starting point is 00:40:53 and how it's so beneficial and great for us, you can get into ketosis by fasting for 24 hours. You'll get in there the same as you would if you decided to eat steak only for five days. Now the big mistake is that when people do this stuff to try to lose weight, that's the wrong. Now, some people do a ketogenic diet for fat loss because they find it really helps with their appetite. Okay, that's fine. But definitely don't do fasting for fat loss.
Starting point is 00:41:17 That's a, that's a, we call that starving yourself back in the day, totally bad relationship with food. None of what I'm doing right now has anything to do with aesthetic or performance goals. What I'm trying to do with my diet and the occasional fasting is everything to do with maximizing mental clarity and mental performance. That's why I'm going for everything.
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Starting point is 00:42:07 Eagerness landed! Quiqueau... First question is from CW Bouserman. If you're not able to get 8 hours of sleep in a row, is it worth it to try to take a nap to make up for it? Well, okay, two things. First, you can't totally make up for lack of sleep at night with naps, but it does help a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Right. So it's not like you're fixing the problem. It's not, it's kind of like a band-aid a little bit, but you definitely do get benefits. So it's like supplements to whole foods. Yeah, it's something like it's so. You're saying like it's better than you not, right? But then the whole foods are the way to go
Starting point is 00:42:45 Good nights full nights rest. Yeah, so let's say you get six hours of sleep and you don't nap and you compare yourself to take getting six hours sleep with a nap You're gonna get better health you're gonna get be more alert less inflammation if you add the nap But if you compare that to a full hour eight hours of sleep at night It's not gonna be as good. Now Adam, when you had your maxes now, I mean, still a little guy, but he was just born not that long ago, crazy how fast time flies by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Um, sleep is obviously one of the first things that is just not the best when you first have a baby. Were you finding yourself napping, were you doing anything like that? I actually didn't nap at all, and I'm actually, you're putting me on a front street here. I'm actually not a good example in this because it was only a short while. The 30 days where I was home with Katrina was the only real 30 days that my sleep was really interrupted. She's taking
Starting point is 00:43:41 taking that on completely herself. So she has managed, then once I read to him at night after his bath time, and I put him down sometimes, so we go back and forth and who puts them down. But after I put him down, or she puts them down, the whole night shift, she is managed that completely. So I'm a bad example of somebody who's like, your typical fathers who talk about not getting sleep all the time. But when I was, you know, I could, I would adjust my, my eating habits and then also whether
Starting point is 00:44:14 how I was training based off of that. So there has been nights. I haven't been 100% perfect with nights since we've had maxing, especially in the first 30 days. During that time, I was modifying my workouts. I was doing a lot of more like recuperative stuff, working in, I mean, I was not training intensely when those those first three days,
Starting point is 00:44:33 because I already knew that I wasn't getting great sleep, like to go in the gym and hammer the shit of myself too, not ideal. I know they recommend to new moms to like, nap with the baby naps to help make up for the lack of sleep, you know, at night. Here's the other part of naps that are awesome. Forget about making up for poor sleep. It does help, like I said, but forget that for a second. Naps on top of your good sleep that you get at night has muscle building benefits. You know, bodybuilders and strength athletes and strongmen.
Starting point is 00:45:05 You can't nap in maps. Yeah, I'm fired. I have utilized a mid-afternoon nap for a long time and have found they've all said that this is great for building muscle. This is great for recovery. But they need to be short. You don't want to go to, you don't want to go.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I was going to speak to that because I don't know if you guys have done a stint of a nap where it was like an hour, half hour, or 10 minutes. I always prefer the 10 minute naps because then you wake up and you're a little more energized versus if I go a little bit too long, it almost ruins the rest of my day in terms of me being more drowsy. Well, yeah, or you have the counter that, what's sometimes if I get, like if I were to get an hour or two hour nap
Starting point is 00:45:47 in the daytime, it screws up my sleep for the next night. Right, exactly. So then I can't fall asleep. And you know, nine o'clock, 10 o'clock at night, I'm wide awake till two in the morning. So sometimes I will, if I have a bad night's rest, I'll modify my workout, pay attention to my eating because I also notice I have cravings on that time,
Starting point is 00:46:03 and then just tough it out until the evening, and then I go to bed and get a really good meal. It's only when I have maybe a few days where I'm strung together where I've had really terrible sleep, where I'll probably end up in the middle of the day just being like, I'm just so ineffective right now, I have to just shut it down.
Starting point is 00:46:18 So I've got this down to a science, okay? So I love using naps to reinvigorate myself and to feel better for the second half of the day, you know, when I wanna give good attention to the kids and to Jessica when I'm home from work. So anything more than about 30 minutes, I wake up and I feel like out of it, maybe bad mood, a little grog.
Starting point is 00:46:39 If it's an hour and I wake up, I'm like a zombie until it's time to go to bed. So for me, it's between 20 to 30 minutes and here's what I do, here's my hack, right? I go home, I'm like a zombie until it's time to go to bed. So for me, it's between 20 to 30 minutes, and here's what I do, here's my hack, right? I go home, I get my headphones, I don't go into totally dark room because I don't wanna go so deep and sleep that, again, I wake up like half asleep, do you do like a brain FM?
Starting point is 00:46:56 100% I put my headphones on, I go brain FM, 20, 30 minutes. It probably takes me about five to seven minutes to fall asleep, I have no idea. All I know is, is about 30 minutes later It probably takes me about five to seven minutes to fall asleep. I have no idea. All I know is is about 30 minutes later, I wake up and I feel alert, I feel good. And it doesn't, it doesn't, you're such a getting that ram a lot quicker.
Starting point is 00:47:15 You're such a bad example though, do you hear the guy like this dude? No, right? We're not even off the plane. Anytime we're in a car. The plane hasn't, yeah, plane, a car doesn't matter. Just do, can sleep anywhere. We're sitting on the couch. We're're in a car. The plane has it, yeah, plane a car doesn't matter. It just do could sleep anywhere.
Starting point is 00:47:26 We're sitting on the couch. We're all watching TV. Kids running around just falls asleep. So the minute you go to mess with him, he wakes up. Yeah. You know, I tell you like a spiny sleep. It's like a weird, weird soldier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Like someone's gonna fuck a fag. Dude, listen, brain of them. Put it on 20, 30 minutes later. Yeah, I need that. You sleep and you wake up and you're great. You're totally good. Otherwise, it takes me a little long. And again, I don't do in a totally dark room
Starting point is 00:47:50 because then I get too deep in sleep and it's hard to wake up. Next question is from shy. G, if you find yourself having a hard time eating enough food throughout the day due to a busy life, what are some ways to implement more food beside protein powders? Do you use larger, higher calorie meals or snacks?
Starting point is 00:48:10 Well, besides the larger, higher calorie meals, which you could totally do, that's really easy. High calorie snacks are an easy way to do this. Nuts are phenomenal for this. You know it's funny, they talk about how nuts are healthy and yes, they are, they are healthy. But you have no idea how fast, most people have no idea Nuts are phenomenal for this. You know, it's funny, they talk about how nuts are healthy. And yes, they are. They are healthy. But you have no idea how fast, most people have no idea how fast
Starting point is 00:48:28 the calories add up with nuts. Like a serving of almonds is like 12. You know, and if most people end up eating about five, you know, servings at a sitting, nuts for me, one of the best ways to increase calories throughout the day, besides protein powders. Protein powders is another one of my favorite. No, serving size actually more like 23 to 25, but the point is that it creeps up quick.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And I love to do that. So like I would at the end of a meal, it's really easy to eat 20 almonds. Totally. And then it's also easy way to control. So I used to get those little tiny, uh, uh, little sandwich, but they're like not a sandwich bag. A sandwich wouldn't fit in.. You see, you know, I have you guys can have the snack bag. Yeah. The little, their little snack bags that only fit like a couple of ounces. And then I'd weigh out them in a serving like Sal was talking about.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And that would back that it looks kind of like that. Yes. It does. Uh, that's something that I would do after the meals. The other thing, rice is so easy for me to take down. So I would boost my rice. I'm eating two cups with my meal that I'm having. Now it's just two cups. Two cups, okay. Yeah, that's a lot of rice. You've got some bone broth in there too, so nice. There you go.
Starting point is 00:49:36 You could do the bone broth with it. Like we talked about the protein rice. So I mean, that is something that I think is an easy thing, my body digested quick. Here's what I have found when I, all these times that I've had to really boost calories. The mistake that I made consistently over and over again was thinking that I need to get this calorie intake
Starting point is 00:49:55 and then I would choose these like really high calorie foods all the time, thinking that that was the best approach. And what I would find is it would fill me up and then I'd be like three, four o'clock in the afternoon and my goal was 5,000 calories and I'm only at 2000. And now I've got like the last three hours of eating, I've got to try and get 3,000 calories. It's I'm screwed.
Starting point is 00:50:16 So I had to get ahead of the game. I had to do it early. And eating foods that were actually not super high in fat, like my oatmeal, oatmeal and fruit and nuts, like for berries and strawberries, like that for breakfast. Man, I was hungry. I was fruit smoothies.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I was like fruit and veggies smoothies. I was hungry a half hour later and ready to eat again. So making sure that I'm eating meals that promote hunger and not fill me all up because sometimes you chase the calories, thinking that that's what you, that's the way you need to go. And then that that calorie dense meal ends up filling you up so much that you don't, you're not hungry again an hour or two hours later where leaner type meals made me keep eating.
Starting point is 00:51:00 So then when I hit mid day, I had a good, I was already halfway or more than halfway through my calories. And then I have for dinner, I have the rib eye steak. You know, I eat the foods that are a little bit higher in calorie or higher than are high than are also more satiating towards the evening to boost the calories versus doing that early in the day. I got a calorie hack for rice besides cooking in bone broth, which adds protein. You ever put butter in your rice? Have you? Oh, yeah. I said, I never did that.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Jessica taught me that. You put it in everything. Put it in everything. I know. I don't, exactly. I'm so disappointed in myself. That's an easy way to do it. Nice big, you know, tablespoon of butter in your hot rice.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Let it melt, mix up, add some salt. Oh. Yeah. So good. Yeah. Next question is from Jose M279. What's your advice for someone who used to be chubby and is now scared to put on weight due to body dysmorphia?
Starting point is 00:51:52 Okay, so again, I'm not an expert in, you know, the psychology behind body dysmorphia. I have a lot of experience with it just through training clients. And in my experience, the most effective thing I could do is a trainer for somebody who has any type of body dysmorphia, whether it be, you know, I need to build more muscle on too skinny or I'm afraid to gain weight or any of that stuff,
Starting point is 00:52:16 is I would take their focus off of how they looked and focus completely on performance. It was always the most effective thing that I found again as a trainer. So when someone would come to me and we'd have these conversations about body dysmorphia, I would say, okay, we're not going to weigh you, we're not going to test your body fat, I don't want you to look in the mirror to gauge your progress. All we're going to keep track of and focus on is your reps, how much weight you can lift, how fast you can move.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Strength metrics. Your work load, how much more exercises we could do, your total volume. And then when it ends up happening, as a person moves their focus towards performance, and here's the thing, all of the behaviors that we have that are negative around body dysmorphia, it's hard to do them when you're looking at your performance.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So in other words, it's hard to starve yourself and get stronger and improve your performance. So what it would do is it would just move their focus for long enough time to where they started to really enjoy the performance gains. And then we could sometimes go back to aesthetics or sometimes not at all. I can't tell you how many times I had clients with body dysmorphia that love the performance
Starting point is 00:53:29 so much that they never went back to really focus. And then they would notice, holy cow, I look good because I'm just focused on my performance. I think too, I'm always having like this, and this same thing, right? So I'm like, I'm not an expert in this, but yet we've, this is very, very common. And like, there's a wide spectrum on this on how extreme it is. And I'm always reminding this person that, you know, the body that you're trying to build, right?
Starting point is 00:53:54 This is the super body, the super car that we're trying to build. And right now, I want to build the most powerful engine that I can. That I care more about that before we start worrying about the aesthetics, the body, the frame of the car. Like, let's build the most powerful engine we possibly can. And that is what we're trying to do
Starting point is 00:54:12 when we're trying to build muscle because the more muscle that we can put on your body, the faster your metabolism is going to work, which is only gonna make it that much easier for us to lean out and to build this physique that you want. So keeping them focused on the goal is to speed up our metabolism and then focusing on strength like salicing. I'm communicating that over and over so many different ways to get that across to them
Starting point is 00:54:35 that stop worrying about the aesthetics right now of what we look like. Like the long game we're going to get there. Don't worry about that. But we have to first lay the foundation or build the engine and that's what we're going to get there, don't worry about that, but we have to first lay the foundation or build the engine, and that's what we're trying to accomplish by focusing on the strength, adding the calories in and building muscle. Don't get cut up in the inches, the scale on the way, even what you may look like in the mirror. This is the long game that we're trying to do, and that's why you've hired me. In my theory around this, really, is, you know, I've had, you know, I've experienced body dysmorphia personally,
Starting point is 00:55:06 okay? And there is an obsessive component to it in terms of the thought process where you kind of become a little obsessed with how you look and this is what you think about all the time. And when I moved that thought process from how I looked to performance, I was still a little obsessive with my thought process, but it was in a healthier direction. And again, take the focus off of your body and how it looks. There was a gentleman that hung out with us at one of our last live events who was asking me about this and I told
Starting point is 00:55:40 them to use saying, oh, I weigh myself, you know, twice, you know, every morning, and every night, so I know how much, you know, water weight I'm gaining, and I'm really keeping track, and I have this thing, and you know, eventually he told me he's got a little bit of body, just more feeling. I told him, I said, take your scale, and I want you to put it in the closet, and don't use it anymore. He freaked out, and I said, just trust me, take the scale, put it in the closet, don't focus, don't weigh yourself at all. I'll give you a time frame, because I know you're freaking out.
Starting point is 00:56:06 So let's say 60 days from now, two months, you can weigh yourself again. In the meantime, I just want you to track your strength, your sets, your reps, your performance. And he came back, he emailed me, you know, several times. He's like, I'm just getting stronger, I'm feeling better. I really want to weigh myself, but I'm not.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I know you said not to, whatever. Well anyway, I'm feeling better. I really want to weigh myself, but I'm not. I know you said not to you, whatever. Well anyway, at the end of 60 days, he got on the scale and the guy's body improved by him not focusing on how we looked and just focusing on his performance. I just think it's a healthier mentality in general. Like even if somebody's coming in to just completely focus on his standards,
Starting point is 00:56:42 they don't have dysmorphia, right? Even if they don't have dysmorphia, right? Yeah, even if they don't have dysmorphia, it's just a better way to treat yourself. And I think we always speak to this in terms of punishing yourself by working out. Like we gotta get rid of that mentality. And that's definitely a component is viewing your body in a certain light and bringing that energy
Starting point is 00:57:03 into working on yourself. And I really just feel that, you know, focusing on strength and actual tangibles, it's way more objective. Like, we've got to get out of the subjective of like, I look this way, I'm holding water and this, you know, it becomes a neurotic obsession eventually, even if you don't realize that it is. And so I just think if people were able to kind of shift that mentality, because you're gonna get to your goal.
Starting point is 00:57:29 You're gonna get to your goal by focusing on strength. You will get there and you'll make our alterations to make that happen and to achieve that. So your body's gonna reflect it eventually. Next question is from KJSC13. I'm interested in working in the fitness field. I had planned to change careers, but I recently had a child. I'm nervous to gamble on a new career path in my current situation, but I'm very passionate about fitness. Is it possible to start it as a side hustle to safely test the waters.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Or am I stuck until I grow a pair and jump in with those feet? Okay. Well, so I have two thoughts on this. One, I understand your position with having a child. When we started, mine pump, I was in a different position than when I had started other businesses.
Starting point is 00:58:24 When I opened my wellness studio, I was I think 23 years old. I didn't have any kids. The way I would do things is I would go all in because in my opinion, you don't know if something can work unless you give it your best. If you give it half your best and it doesn't work, is it because it wasn't meant to be or is it because you weren't able to give it your full attention? And so I would always give my full attention. But then I had kids, you know, two children, a mortgage, and all these other responsibilities. And we started mind-pump and it was different. It was different for me because now I was responsible for other people.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And I didn't want to take such a big risk and potentially harm people that are dependent on me. So we did have to do it on the side. So it is possible to test the waters as a side hustle, but you're not going to get nearly the performance you would get or nearly the answers that you're looking for unless you jump all the way in. And so I don't know what the right answer is for you. I don't know your whole financial situation.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I don't know if you have savings, that'll carry you for, you know, X amount of months while you're figuring things out. I don't know those things. So it's really a tough thing, a tough decision. Now if you're somebody and you're like in your 20s, like, hey, I just graduated college and I don't have any kids I'm not married and I'm still living in my parents house. My advice would be go all in. You have nothing to lose,
Starting point is 00:59:50 go for it all the way. But because you have a child, it's a little bit more, it's a little more nuanced. I would still caution that person. I'm glad you share that story about you with mind pump because it's true. I mean, mindPump really did start like a side hustle. It was a passion project. We weren't focused on, we needed to make money at all. It was something that we all felt passionate about and wanted to test and see, you know, can we do this?
Starting point is 01:00:16 So absolutely, you can do that. The reason why I would caution you, and I would even caution the young kid who doesn't have kids in his old time, it's a weird fucking time for our industry. It's a weird time for us. I mean, we have lots of conversations off-mic about the direction of this company
Starting point is 01:00:35 and trying to understand and figure out what exactly is going to unfold in the next 12 months and what is the space going to look like? I mean, they're already doing surveys on people that are saying that, you know, 25 plus percent of them will never return to a gym. That's a big chunk of people. So the landscape is definitely changing.
Starting point is 01:00:56 It's changed in our two decades that we've been involved in it. I mean, we look at us now. We were brick and mortar, you know, owning either facilities or managing and running them and all one on one with clients. Like, we don't do any of that anymore. So it's definitely evolved in our time.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And I think we are in the middle of it evolving again. And so I caution anybody who is thinking about moving into this space without really thinking about like where and how you, how you want. I do think and the following are I think there's value in this. I get asked this by a lot of trainers that are right now that if you are not investing in written content or virtual content regardless if you want to be an in-person trainer or run a franchise studio, it doesn't matter to me.
Starting point is 01:01:46 We live in this digital, virtual streaming world now. There's a ton of value in starting to acquire real estate in all these different mediums right now, regardless of what part of the space that you want to belong in. I think that is a must. I think that is something that, if you're concerned, and you can do that on the space that you want to belong in, and I think that is a must. I think that is something that, and you can do that on the side while you're doing other things. That to me, when I think of the things
Starting point is 01:02:12 that have made mind pump really successful or that why we have continued to have success, a lot of it is not the stuff that you listen to on the podcast. You listen to the podcast, you enjoy the show, you maybe you identify with one of us, you like that, or we present really good information. Probably Justin. Yeah, probably Justin. There's a reason of course why you keep tuning in the podcast, but
Starting point is 01:02:34 the podcast is just one part of this business. The other stuff that we don't talk about is the amount of work that goes into all the digital assets that we have, all the written content that's out there, that's really what, that's the engine of this beast. And so those are things that you definitely should invest your time in if you're considering going in this, but proceed with caution because it's a weird time even for us. I know. I mean, I really didn't have anywhere to go with this question based off of what you just described. It's so strange. The landscape now and it's ever changing. And to see
Starting point is 01:03:11 how companies right now are trying to pivot and adjust and like every gym has to have an online component now. That is like a new standard that didn't exist before all this. And so it's not the same old formula isn't gonna apply. Like I just go to a gym, I'm gonna learn, I'm gonna get all these clients. Like that whole thing, you have to just kind of reassess
Starting point is 01:03:32 like what that's gonna look like. And I do think though, there's obviously there's gonna be space for all this and like an opportunity in the health and fitness space is just gonna look a bit different. So maybe being patient to see what kind of those opportunities pop up. Like if it's for a tech company that's now promoting
Starting point is 01:03:51 virtual trainers and they provide a platform for you to speak and start acquiring clients virtually, that might make sense. And they might be able to sort of like provide a turnkey option for that. Really the best thing for you to do right now is to get educated as much as possible. Try to do these online certifications, like CPPS or one of these that we definitely put. We definitely love what they're doing with that.
Starting point is 01:04:20 FRC, something like that. Just try to really understand the environment you're dealing with right now. Yeah, it's, but I will say this, look, although the fitness landscape is changing, the demand for help in health and fitness is growing. I just read something this morning. No, it's just how it's delivered.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Right, and I just read this morning, it's 12% of Americans, and this is based off of blood tests, you know, looking at blood markers and waste circumference, okay, so based off those numbers, they estimate that about 12% of Americans have good metabolic health, 12%. So that leaves 88% of the country is in dire need
Starting point is 01:05:04 of a fitness professionals services, a good fitness professional services. Here's the other thing that I noticed as a trainer, right? When I, towards the end of my career, after I'd been training people for a long time, you know, my personal training rates back then were, you know, anywhere between 80 to $120 an hour. So it wasn't cheap, right? People would hire me and then they'd pay me every month for years, okay? I'm talking, some clients I had for 15 years paying me this $85, $100 an hour right now.
Starting point is 01:05:40 These are smart people, these are successful people. They always found so much value in what I was able to provide to them that I probably became one of the largest expenses in their life aside from their mortgage. Think about that for a second. That's the power that fitness and health can provide people when delivered properly.
Starting point is 01:06:00 So, and I'm gonna talk about the current landscape and a lot of this is gonna be my prediction because it's still up in the air. But I predict the at-home workout market and the virtual fitness market is only going to, it was already exploding, it's going to continue to explode. I don't think the demand is gonna go down at all. I think we're gonna see an increased demand
Starting point is 01:06:20 for virtual fitness or for fitness for children as schools continue to be, you know, at a service. And as they start to reduce their funds for PE and physical fitness, and now we're starting to see children being affected by poor health. More and more parents are pulling their funds together. I know this, I was just in a phone call last night with a group of parents, and we're talking about
Starting point is 01:06:40 what we're gonna do with our kids, because California schools aren't in. And I'm like, hey, do you guys, would you guys like a fitness component for the kids? For the school education't in. And I'm like, hey, do you guys, would you guys like a fitness component for the kids? For the school education. Yeah. And they're like, absolutely. Do you know any good trainers? We would love to pull our money together and pay them.
Starting point is 01:06:51 So you got five parents willing to pay a trainer, you know, a hundred dollars an hour to take their kids through. I love that I work out. I love that space right now. Oh, it's amazing. So, and you look, you just had a child. I guarantee you, I know this already, I already know this
Starting point is 01:07:04 before and probably still now, but I knew trainers, moms, you just had a child I guarantee you I know this already know this before and probably still now But I knew trainers moms who just had babies who then service the new mom Market and fitness and they would all take their babies together and meet at the park or whatever and do Yes strides. Yeah, yeah, huge. So this market we're saying caution because Pay attention watch you know try and be smart about it. But this fitness and health is not going anywhere. The demand is only growing. And if you look at the health of the modern world,
Starting point is 01:07:36 and how it's declining, Western medicine has no answers. All of the answers lie in the fitness and health space. We are the ones that hold the answers to the chronic health problems that are plaguing us today. It's not the doctors, it's not the hospitals, there's no drugs, there's no medicines, you need to build a resilient body. That's it, right there, 100%. Look, my pump is recorded on videos as well as audio.
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