Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1369: The Most Under-Trained Muscle, How to Preserve Muscle While Training for Endurance, the Benefits of Limiting Processed Foods & More

Episode Date: August 29, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the most chronically under-trained muscle group for most people, programming endurance into your workouts without sacrificing muscle growth, what constitutes a processed food, and whether gluttony is a fair criticism of Christianity. 1369: The Most Under-Trained Muscle, How to Preserve Muscle While Training for Endurance, the Benefits of Limiting Processed Foods & More Adam’s tech surprise. (5:10) Dad jokes are great. (9:37) How the Pluto Pillow is a game-changer when it comes to great sleep. (10:20) Mind Pump Shout Outs. (13:19) How every parent loves compliments, teenage growing pains & MORE. (16:26) Mind Pump Reminisces: Their first experiences in the gym, the supplements they took from back in the day & MORE. (20:20) Walmart putting their name in the hat for TikTok. (29:30) Bella Thorne x OnlyFans. (31:48) Sports are pissing people off. (33:45) How Call of Duty is trying to educate their users. (38:47) Adam has a bone to pick with Hard Knocks. (40:10) Sal loves Adam’s Organifi “balls.” (43:20) The most regretted college majors (and the least). (44:09) Caught cheating on Google maps. (46:04) Win a day with the Mind Pump Media Crew! #AppearOnMindPump (47:15) #Quah question #1 – What is the most chronically under-trained muscle group for most people? (49:57) #Quah question #2 – I just did a week of steep mountain trekking and realized I have undertrained endurance. I currently lift weights 3-6 days a week. How do I program endurance or uphill trekking training into my workouts without sacrificing muscle growth? Is this possible? (56:05) #Quah question #3 - What actually constitutes processed foods? Is protein powder processed? How about protein bars or yogurt? Where do you draw the line? (1:02:57) #Quah question #4 – Do you think gluttony is a fair criticism of Christianity? Have you seen clients or other use faith to back up gluttony? (1:11:14) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Performance ½ off!! **Promo code “GREEN50” at checkout** Visit Pluto Pillow for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout for 10% off** Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Ristorante da Maria - San Jose, CA Microsoft and Walmart are teaming on a potential TikTok takeover deal Bella Thorne Breaks OnlyFans Record, Earning Over $1 Million in First 24 Hours Multiple professional sports teams boycott games in protest of Jacob Blake shooting Ronald Reagan sends you to do war crimes in the latest Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War trailer Hard Knocks - Official Website for the HBO Series Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** NO BAKE CHOCOLATE ALMOND BUTTER COCONUT BALLS These Are the Most Regretted College Majors (and the Least) Man Divorces Wife After Accidentally Catching Her Cheating on Google Maps Street View Appear on Mind Pump – Enter Content TODAY! **Promo code - “FANSWANTIN” for 1/2 off any program** RGB Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Media Most Food in America is Hyper-Palatable and 'Difficult to Stop Eating,' Scientists Say Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Gary Vay-Ner-Chuk (@garyvee) on Instagram Organifi (@organifi) on Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump, the world's number one ranked fitness health and entertainment podcast. That's right, we've been voted that 500 times in a row. At least. Maybe. This episode we answer fitness and health questions

that are asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode is by talking about current events. We talk about studies. We have some fun conversation. So I'm going to give you a breakdown of the whole episode. By the way, if you want the episode timestamps, you can just fast forward to your favorite part. Go to mindpumppodcast.com.

All right, here's the breakdown. We open up by talking about Adam's tech surprise. So he gives us this little surprise about tech. Then we talked about the Pluto pillow and how it's helping everybody sleep really well. Pluto pillow is a company. You go on their website and you customize, according to your height, the way you like your pillow to feel.

If you like to sleep a little warmer, a little cooler, you can customize your own pillow, get it delivered to your door, and you will experience the best sleep you've ever had in your entire life. And because you listen to MindPump, you get 10% off your first order. Here's what you do. Go to PlutoPillow.com, that's PLUTO pillow.com forward slash MindPump and then use the code MindPump for that discount. Then we talk about a restaurant owner, he owns a restaurant called Restaurant that they're Maria. So yeah, I was hoping you would. The owner's name is George.

He showed Justin and Courtney and family a really good time because they've been evacuated from the house through the fires. If you guys are around that restaurant, make sure you go there. Tell me the name of the restaurant. Please support him. He's awesome. Buy a lot of food. Then I talked about my daughter and the wonderful compliments I got from other parents,

almost made me cry. All right. Then we had a great conversation about supplements back in the day. They were way more powerful back then and more dangerous. Then we talked about Walmart potentially buying TikTok. That's cool. Adam talked about Walmart potentially buying TikTok. That's cool.

Adam talked about Bella Thorn and her fans only page. Are you subscribed? Yeah, you might be. Then I talked about my buddy who's a Dodger fan throwing away his Dodgers stuff, his clothes and hats. He's a lifelong fan. Sports is pissing people off a lot these days. Bold move.

Then we talked about the Call of Duty trailer, which was a little weird. We talked about a show called Hard Knocks on HBO. I talked about Adams cookie dough protein balls. They're delicious, slightly salty peanut butter balls made with organifies vanilla protein. You just wanna put all in your mouth. You can fit all of them in your mouth.

If you go to the Organify Instagram page, they have recipes on there. Now, Organifi is a company that we work with that makes organic supplements. My favorite is their protein powder. There's no dairy in there, no gluten. So it's easy to digest. It's got a great amino acid profile

because they combine different vegan sources of protein because single sourced vegan proteins are not as good. They also have a green juice, such as great if you miss your vegetables. They have a red juice that can give you a good pre-workout stimulant that doesn't have stimulants. There's no caffeine in it. Anyway, go check them out.

And because you listen to MindPump, use our discount. All you gotta do is go to organifi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com forward-sashmind pump. Use the code MindPump and you'll get 20% off at checkout. Then we talked about the most regretted college majors, and I talked about a man who found out his wife was having an affair by using Google Maps. Oops.

Then we got into the fitness portions, where we answer fitness questions. Here's the first one. What are the most chronically under-trained muscle groups for most people? The next question, this person wants to improve their stamina and endurance for mountain trekking, but also likes to lift weights, what's a good balance?

The next question, what actually constitutes processed foods? Because we talk about how processed foods tend to make people gain weight. What are processed foods? Well, actually, so. And the final question, have we ever seen clients or others use faith to battle gluttony? Also, 72 hours left for the mind pump maps performance 50% off sale. So maps performance is a workout program designed to help you build muscle, burn body fat become

faster, improve your stamina speed, and your mobility. It is a workout program that uses traditional and non-traditional exercises. Many people say it's the most fun Maps program that we have because it's so different. It's also the only Maps program that has a power explosive phase. At the end of this program, there's a whole phase with plyometrics and explosive power. It's a great program. It's half off. You got three days left to take advantage of this promotion. Here's what you do. Go to mapsgreen.com. That's M-A-P-S-G-R-E-n.com and use the code green50. That's g-r-e-n50, no space for the discount. I was talking to someone the other day about like

unintended consequences of becoming so dependent on tech. You know, like, Sal, you know, I've talked about this. I remember I challenged you when you said that, I just some terrible directions and I'm like, I'm just as bad as you, but I don't think that I was always that way Like I wasn't that way until what is it Tom Tom or whatever was the first one that really came out So I was talking about like these this was a conversation and I think when you when you talk about things like this

It's kind of like when you talk get a new car then you see the car all time like shit starts happening to you So last night I'm putting max down And I so Katrina first of, it puts his room like, pitch black. We have the double blackout curtains in there. Like, she's like adamant about like, not a single night light. That's good.

Yeah, she will pitch pitch black in there. Which, you know, okay, for, that's great, I agree, you know. But also very difficult to walk around in and see shit. And so we have that. You know where the monsters are coming from. Yeah, yeah, we have that camera, right? So, last night vision on it, doesn't it? Yeah, so as night vision on it,

so you could totally see him clear on the camera. So, but then the glow from my phone will like distract him and like he'll know I'm in the room and wake him up. So I set him down last night and you know, I normally would do is like we're teaching him to go down awake. Like he's past that age where you rock him to sleep every single night. Now it's like, hey, it's bedtime and you set him down

and you try and get him to relax. So I'm setting him down. And a lot of times what I'll do is I'll set him down then I'll go sit down on the rocking chair and I take the iPhone and I put it under my shirt and then tuck my head under and then I'll like watch the camera. Like it's my head, like in my shirt.

Wait, while you're in the room? Yeah, while I'm in the room. So I can see what he's doing, you know? Like is he, and I'll watch and see if he's, you know, sometimes I can tell he's like teething and so I'll give him something that he can teethe on or whatever or if I can tell if he's almost asleep so I can sneak out because if I can tell if he's almost asleep, so I can sneak out,

because if I walk out and he's not quite almost out, and I open the door that light comes shining in or without it, then he'll get, you know, he'll wake up. So, anyways, to the point, my point, right, of like being reliant on tech, right? So I'm sitting on this rocking chair, and I'm like looking at her, and Katrina is also watching him downstairs.

So she's downstairs and she's texting me, like, you know, oh, he's almost asleep. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm watching, and she's like, oh at her and Katrina is also watching him downstairs. So she's downstairs and she's texting me like, you know, oh, he's almost asleep. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm watching and she's like, oh, you in the room. The lights probably, I'm like, no, no, no, I do it on my shirt. I'm like, so I'm like texting her with underneath my shirt and then going back and forth and look at him. Well, I'm swiping back between the app where I can view him and then talking to Katrina. And this is my point of like like we become so dependent on apps. I freak the fuck out because the app froze

and I didn't realize that it froze. And so when I go back from saying Katrina, like, yeah, no, he's fine. And then I go back and I look at the camera, he's not in the bed. And it's pitch black. And right before that, I heard like a, you know, I heard like this thumping sound on the bed. So I like shoot up up like oh like freaked out like you jumped out of the bed or he fell or some shit

And then the camera like unfreeze this and he's like there and then he's like looking up at me daddy My it's like a scary movie like oh he's not there and then the next thing you know you look He's on the ceiling just the next thing you know, he's looking. He's like, look, he's on the ceiling. Just, my heart stopped. Dude, it just, I was not, we're not ready for that at all. It's not in the bed at all. It does sound like one of those horror movies, all right? Yeah.

We're looking at that and then the kid like, he's, he's gone. You're like, wait a minute, we're busy. He rotates like 180 degrees. Yeah. That, that. What the hell's going on? No, no, no. Yeah, the worst part is you don't know anybody's phone number.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Your guy's his phone number. Yeah, yeah. I call you guys all the time. I know, like, my parents' phone number, and then I know three of my best friends, like, parents' phone numbers.

That's it. I don't know if Jessica's phone number. So, I know Katrina is only because this was a big deal to her when we were when we were first dating You know, we were like three five years in our relationship and she used to get mad at me She's like you don't even know my phone number. We've been together for so long like, huh? It's like in my phone. She's like what if you were stranded somewhere and you didn't have your phone And you need to call me you could even call me Yeah, you'll remember I said yeah

my my my retaliation to that or whatever my retort is I'll remember 911 if I'm in a situation like Oh, it's good. Like if I'm in if I'm in that big of an emergency. I don't need to know your phone number What are you gonna do for me? I just got to remember 911. Yeah, that's a dude my dad It's a professional. My dad's such a good said such a good dad joke the other day dad jokes are great Yeah, I'm gonna say that right now. I love them. Anyway, so my dad, he speaks broken English, right? Cause it's a tiny immigrant. Yeah. So we're all sitting around.

You know, we had dinner. My kids were over there, whatever, and we're hanging out. And dinner's over and my dad goes to my daughter, he goes, hey, he goes, you like, you like ice cream? And she goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like ice cream. And he goes, ah, yeah, yeah, I like ice cream. And he goes, ah! Dude, we died. That's so hard.

I guess, because that's how you would say it. You know, you want ice cream? You know? It's like, he started screaming. That's great. Yeah. Anyway, sit you up real good. Hey, speaking of sleep, you know,

because Jessica's in the third trimester, her sleep is like really hard, right? It's very difficult. She has to pee pretty much all the time, which is kind of, I forgot what that was like, like every 15 minutes, she has to go pee, it's hard to sleep, whatever. So we've done a few things in the room that make a big difference. And the Pluto pillow is, is she loving it or what?

It's game changer. You know what? The big thing is, is it stays cool. Yeah. I think that's the thing that she likes. That's the favorite part. Yeah, because like I said earlier, but I've said before in previous podcasts, her body temperature has become lava. And so you should see my kids, they wear sweaters in the house.

In the middle of August in California. You like to see their breath. Yeah, my kids have blankets. It's cold, but I'm like, You'd like to see their breath. Yeah, my kids have blankets. Like a cold, papaya. That's beautiful. I'm like, well, Jessica's like, the AC's broken. And my kids are like, no, no, no, it's working. You're working just fine.

The only fight I even had as of late with all this madness going on, it has been over like the fan or the AC and then the control of like our climate, you know, that we're in, you know, at the time, because like that's such one of those things that just always like pops up because we're so polar opposites in terms of like how,

you know, the temperature that's the most comfortable to sleep in, I'm like, dude, we gotta get this thing down. I'm not getting any sleep. And then if I do it, I know she's not gonna eat any sleep and so then I compromise the next day and we're back at four, cause I don't have my go-to stuff, dude. I don't have my chili pad.

I'll have the Pluto pillow. I don't have a U.S. stuff. Oh, did you not get the Pluto pillow? You do this guy. He's just, it sounds like of all the things you grab. All the things. How's it gonna burn your body? You forgot your Pluto pillow.

You're a chili pad? No, I don't have any of that stuff right now. And I feel it, dude. Like it's, it's, I swear, I want, I want, I want chili and Pluto both. I think they're, they're like tagline for sale should be like saving marriages. Yes, because that is the biggest thing

of in contention at my house, too. It's like we are polar opposites. Last night, again, we were getting into it this morning because it was like you changed the temperature. I know you did. I was like, yeah, I woke up with a headache and sweating at like three o'clock in the morning and I roll over. She's coming back.

I guess Max woke up in the middle of the night. She put him back down and she's coming back to bed and I'm getting up and I'm like, what did you change? AC? She goes, I didn't touch it. And then I stomp downstairs and I get down there and sure shit, it's up two degrees. Right.

And I change it back down that come down. It was up to 69. What the fuck? You know I can't sleep lately. I feel every degree. I do have an idea for us. So yeah. Yeah, Jessica swears.

We had a whole argument about it. Swear's that the AC's not working. She's like, no, it's not working. I'm like, honey, the air's coming out. It's cold. No, the temperature hasn't changed. I'm like, okay. Even if the AC out, it's cold. No, the temperature hasn't changed, I'm like, okay. Even if the AC was broken, the thermometer on it

would not be, and it says clearly here that it's 67 degrees in the house. Well, why am I so hot, you're pregnant, that's why. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, that's why you're so hot. Okay, man, we went into this restaurant last time, I had to bring this up, because it was like,

I got to a point where I was getting frustrated with just everything going on and just so many people, I'm losing hope and humanity for the most part, but we got this guy, he owns his own restaurant. We were just like, where do we go? My kids really wanted pizza, I wanted Italian food and all this and I'm like, I'm always like the one dragging my feet for that because of all the gluten and everything else that I'm gonna have to eat.

I'm like, you know, forget it. Let's give the kids a win, let's go to this place. And this place was, I don't know if you guys have ever been there before, I think it's called a restaurant de Maria, I think. The owner's name is George, but I have to give him a shout out because he was like the most kind Human being like I've run into you know sense like it was like we got there and like he were his only customer

It basically like adjusted the whole restaurant so you could come in and you take out now But he had like two he just opened up so he had like two tables outside and right next to us like there's this Restaurant that was just going crazy at all kinds people there, like lively and all this stuff. And people kind of came in, they looked at his restaurant, and they went over to the one next to him, you know? And I was just like, I don't know, like this place is gonna be that great or whatever. And so I sit down and like, you know,

and he's like definitely an immigrant that started his own business, like super appreciative that we're there, like with the family and everything, we told him why we're there and the fires and all that, we got in this discussion. And then, you know, so he takes our order, it goes to the stuff and then he,

he starts presenting us like even more appetizers that we didn't order. And he's just like, here, no, I want you to try this. And then I want you to try this. So we got this water that we have on this filtration system that's like, you know, and it was really good. And we're like, this is your tap water? It's amazing.

You know, like he's giving us like canolies and he's giving us like tiramisu's that's like out of this world good. Nice guy. And we're just like, and he wouldn't like let us pay, you know, at the end, like the tip or anything. I'm like, no, we're getting this fight. Yeah, like like I'm like, no, I'm gonna pay for this.

He's like, no, no, no, I'm gonna pay for this. You know what, that's it. So my uncle owns a restaurant and, you know, he's off his seat in immigrant and that's how he always has been with his customers. Yeah. As a result, his restaurants always do well. The people love going in.

He walks around the restaurant as the owner, drinks with people, sits, he'll walk up to someone, he knows their name, how you doing, sits down. That's how far Tello's is. Yeah, brings over some wine or whatever. Dude, this is the small business aspect that people don't understand, like, is under attack. And so I just felt, and my kids noticed it,

and they were just like, man, I was so nice, and I can't believe all this stuff he was doing for us, and it's like, you know, we just need, we need that right now. Everybody's so against each other, and so divisive, and it's like, you know, we just need, we need that right now. Everybody's so against each other and so divisive and it's hard, man. They're going through shit right now. You know, the solution is turn off all your media.

Don't watch any news for a week and just talk to people. Yeah. And watch what happens. 100% you start to realize people are not crazy. Yeah. You know, most people are normal. Most people are on your side and really trying

to, you know, have a helpful attitude. Yeah, and they your side and really trying to, you know, have a helpful attitude. Yeah, and they're nice. Hey, so you guys know, I told you guys, you know, obviously we're still doing the distance learning with the schools or whatever, but we've been organizing these like pods, where the kids will meet up with their, you know, two or three other kids, and we're still,

you know, we're still following guidelines and all stuff, but at least they're around other kids, rather than being alone in their bedroom, doing their school or whatever. And this is the first week, we're kind of testing it out. Huge success. Huge success. Oh, good.

The, my daughter, her attitude is so different. She's so much more lively. Her and her friends are connecting. We've turned what could be a crappy memory for them into one that's a really good one. They're really enjoying it. The kids are all getting along. I got some of the best compliments ever, by the way.

It's where I brought it to your mind. Every parent likes to hear from other parents how great their kid is. Of course. You know what I'm saying? And so what I hear is from them is, oh, your daughter, she's so responsible. She organized the girls to clean up afterwards.

Yeah. Or she's keeping them on track and making sure they're foot. Oh, yeah. I was getting the whole like, oh, something's on my eye. I know why they're telling me to go the other room. Yeah. So my son too, my son too, I, you know, he organized one with one of his friends. It's funny. So my boy is just turned 15, right? This is when like boys change very quickly with the way they look.

So this morning, I haven't seen this particular friend of his since all the shutdowns. This has been what, six months now? Has it been five or six months? That's it, five or six months. Just haven't seen this kid, this other kid for that long. I sprouted up. Dude, I dropped them off this morning,

and set high to the parents, he comes around. Whole, it's testosterone, hit his body all of a sudden. Kut-t-t-t-t-t, you know? He's got a little bit of the, a little bit of the, the whiskers coming out. Voice all change, sprouted. Hey, Sal, how you doing? Oh, shit.

What's up, man? I grew like seven inches over one summer. I went for, I went from playing point guard, right? So my freshman year in, in, in high, freshman and sophomore year, I was playing point and then sophomore year shooting guard. And then I jumped all the way up to playing like Power Ford and Center and ship

because I went all the way up to six foot. But I was in a one summer or one year. Yeah, it was like over the course of a year in a summer. Did you get close to seeing your legs? So I don't remember, at least I don't remember, I don't remember growing pains, but I do remember feeling a little awkward.

Like being, I've been an athlete since I was a kid. Like I've been playing soccer since I was probably like seven, six, seven years old, right? So I've been playing sports forever. Yeah. And never had I felt out of my body until that year. So I definitely did feel different. What it felt like, I kind of feel this way now,

where your brain tells you you can do things, but your body just doesn't, it's for different reasons. Not just getting old. Yeah, offering, like, and shooting, yeah. This now it's because I'm getting old, right? And slowing down and joints are achy. And you're like, oh, you make noises

when you sit down or get up, right? Okay, that's now, then it was more like, it's just a clumsy. you know, I felt like a great dainn puppy if you've ever seen them before, you know, or just kind of wobbly all over the place until you like learn your body and shit. So, I got, did you guys get stretch marks from when you started first working out

or growing or whatever? Yeah, my quad's like crazy. Yeah, I got, and I remember how happy I was to get, I know that's apparently stretch marks are a bad thing, right? Nobody wants to. I loved it, that in the bicep on the, I was like, oh yeah. Yeah, that got, and I remember how happy I was to get there. I know that's apparently stretch marks are a bad thing, right? Everybody, nobody wants to. Oh, I loved it. That, and the bicep on the, it was like, oh yeah. Yeah, that was me.

I'm like, it's working. Yeah. Yeah, the, you know, the mega mass 2000s. It's, it's all the supplements. Yeah, but I had them in, like in my armpits in the back of my arms. I remember wearing tank tops and like I put my arm behind my head, like, people can notice. Yeah.

What's that on your arm? Oh, they're purple. Stretch marks. Oh, that's a stretch mark. And he's my chest is getting so messy. It's all Yeah, what's that on your arm? They're purple, fresh. They're fresh. Oh, that's a stretch mark. And he's my chest is getting so messy. It's all my muscle. Yeah.

Oh, my muscles growing too fast. Yeah, way 160 now, anyway. I don't have a whole lot of room left. I don't know if you know this. Yeah, I love thinking back to those days when I first got in. I still, I always love working out. It's just one of my favorite things to do. But those days were just so special.

It was so new. Every new exercise I discovered was just so exciting. Working out, every supplement was this cool new thing and every routine I would follow. And I kind of missed those. That's interesting that you have a view like that. I have a, like, mind was way more frustrated, dude. I mean, I remember being a kid and trying everything

and just not feeling like I got any sort of response at all, feeling I was working so hard to trying to gain. I remember the first day I worked out in my backyard. When my parents finally gave me the green light that I was able to, I was 14 and I was like, begging them all the time. And finally, my mom was like, fine, you're killing us. I remember that first workout. the weights, the iron,

putting the dumbbells, they were adjustable dumbbells, screwing the thing on. I remember the first day I went into the YMCA, which was the actual first JMI worked out, using cables for this first time. And then going to 24th Fitness, my very first workout at 24th Fitness, my dad dropped me off, and this is before cell phones

and all that stuff, and I told him, he said, when do you want me to pick that stuff. And I told him, he said, when do you want me to pick you up? And I told him three hours, give me three hours. And he's like, three hours, he goes, are you sure? I said, yeah, I'm gonna hang out, I'm gonna whatever, I was with my cousin.

Yeah, give us three hours, we're gonna go to the store. But the reality is, we literally did everything. We did every piece of cardio, every single machine. Every single thing, machine. So we had money because we worked, you know, we used to wash dishes or whatever, so I'd cash. So I went in there and once my dad left and I could be like, oh, I could buy whatever I want.

I saw behind the counter, they had all the drinks that looked like they were like, that's gonna make me so cool. You know the AVV ones? Oh dude, the Eagles on them. Oh bro, I bought Blue Thunder. You guys remember Blue Thunder? Okay, so Blue Thunder was what a shitty drink.

It had everything. That's what that was, it's calling cards. So if you looked at the back and you read it, and I remember this, I remember having the poor girl give me every single drink so I could pick the right one. And I'd look at the back and I chose Blue Thunder because it had everything. I didn't understand that supplement companies

would basically put two molecules of each ingredient. So it said it had everything like smilax, tribulus, you know, everything. So I'm like, I'm getting that, bought two bottles, my cousin bought two bottles, then we bought a bottle of amino, force 5,000 or whatever, drank those, worked out for three hours,

got home, threw up, and then had to, I couldn't go to school the next day because I was so small. Any idea where that company is today? Do you know? Oh, they still exist. ABB?

What is it? What is the acronym? Although I would see a main goal. American bodybuilding. American bodybuilding. That's what it is. Could you picture of an eagle? Could you look at them up, Doug?

I mean, they were, I mean, they were the shit back in the days. I mean, that was the, the, the, they dominated the gym. Yeah, beverage. You don't hear nothing about them. I wonder if they're getting crushed right now the days. I mean, that was the, the, the, they dominated the gym. Yeah, beverage, you don't hear nothing about them. I wonder if they're getting crushed right now. That's why I want to know. I'm really curious to see how they're doing.

I mean, is it, do they still get sold? I don't see them, it used to see them everywhere. It used to seem at seven, 11's, used to see them in every gym, used to see them anywhere. Yeah. I don't, I don't see them hardly ever. Well, they,

that go to like an old gym. Yeah, it's the same drinks. Look at that, you know, max recovery speeds. So they still have speeds. This guy's speed stacks. But you see if you can find an article on him, Doug, like business-wise, just click on news. I just go up to the top and click on news.

It'll give you all the art. I'll tell you what, kids, listening to this podcast right now who are younger than I am. The speed stack drink you drink now, it ain't shit. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Fedra alkaloids plus caffeine plus like 300 milligrams of caffeine caffeine a Fedra alky so first you can't buy a scene to the future and it had white willobark Which was a natural version of aspirin? Numbed your body so you could take all this craziness. Oh, man, and it made you feel Crazy. Do you remember the first time you drink that or took a feather? I do what what what happened? Oh, I liked it Well, you know that was right in the heart of like my,

you know, what it was introduced to me from was a buddy of mine, Mark who came, like we met when I was 20. Mark introduced to do? Yeah. Your first time drinking was in your 20s? I was in a 20, 22. Oh, man, I'm a barely. 22.

I tried other ABB products before that, like the max, like so so when when I was a kid and I first got a gym Membership which was around 1918 18 years old And we are going to inner sport in Modesto so shout out to that gym if it still exists inner sport inner sport I did work out there once. Yeah, well we shot a video there We shot the original the original maps black was shot in my original They had they had the Nautilus equipment with instead of the cord or whatever, it was chain. Yeah, yeah.

Those are the good ones. Yeah, it was not as great. It was just don't get your finger caught in there. It was a great gym, but the things that I was drinking back then was mass recovery, mass builder, like all the, and those ones are nasty tasted. Oh yeah, 100 grams of dexterous. Oh, they were.

That's all sugar. I didn't drink a lot of thermo, the speed stack. None of those because I knew I was a skinny kid trying to build I wasn't trying to take I didn't try and they were fat burner. Yeah, I wasn't trying to take no fat burner And he had spit sped up my already super fast metabolism So I didn't get introduced to speed stacks and the thermo stuff and Nefedra until I was about 22 Working with my buddy and we drank it not before a workout. It was like a work day like we're gonna grind today We're gonna make a hundred phone calls. That's I got introduced to Adam the introduced it to me. Yeah for work

I was before that though. I'll be honest. I there's this thing that it was called mini-thin. Oh, that's yeah That's the same thing the truckers use it right? So we we did that a few times Yeah, that's the same thing. The truckers use it, right? So we did that a few times, but before we trained, but mainly before we had football games. And so you would literally be like foaming at the mouth the first half and then completely crash.

The next half, but I had 20 tackles one game like in the first half, dude, I was go crazy. Oh, yeah. That's what I remember. I had like one of the best work days I ever had. I remember looking back at the day, going like, whoa, I nailed a nail to hundred something phone calls It does not healthy kids six fits. I train like six clients. I'm like a 14 hour day and I'm like I'm good

No, I read an article by it was a muscle media 2000 which back those bill Philips and that was back in the day when Bill Philips is before EAS right before he started EAS and Muscle media 2000 in those days, you had a bunch of bodybuilding magazines and muscle building magazines, this is before the internet, right? And each, you had kind of different markets in that space.

And Muscle Media 2000 catered to the hardcore, kind of edgy black market muscle builders. So we talked about steroids. We talked about the latest chemicals and the new supplement that might get banned. And you know, what the pros really do. So of course, which magazine do you think I'm going to, like, I'm going to that one. I'm like, this is got the secrets. Like, the other stuff is fake. This is for real. So I read and I read an article. And it was about ultimate orange, which is the first pre workout.

And ultimate orange had a fedra in that. That is an agent orange. And I read, yeah, I read about a fedra and like you Adam, I was skinny and it said, oh great fat burners in that. But then I read this article and it said, the most crazy intense focus you'll have your entire life, super intense, you know,

studies show that lifters lifted 10 or 15% more weight because it is as very strong. That's what got you. Yeah, so I'm like, oh really? I'm like, this is cool. So a Fedra, then I'm like, what about caffeine? Then I went and I got a chemistry book at the library and I said, I'm going to learn about these alpha, this particular receptor that the chemicals attached to.

So I'm like, okay. How old are you and you decided to do this? Um, we're so obvious. Maybe 16 or so. This is where we're totally different. Oh yeah, you were, you were like, try as much as I can to develop the whole report back to you and how I feel. You were trying to feather your hair the right way.

I was looking at the line marrying. I'm going to get a chemistry book and figure this out. Hey, that's all good. So that's why we made good partners. So I looked up these receptors and I learned about Yo-Himbee and Yo-Himbee basically if one chemical raises the heat of a thermostat, the other one turns the thermostat off,

so it just keeps going up. So I'm like, this is gonna be a great combination. I'm gonna get a fedra, caffeine, I'm gonna buy some aspirin, and then I'm gonna take Yo-Himbee with it. It's gonna be frickin culmination. I'm gonna get a fedra, caffeine, I'm gonna buy some aspirin, and then I'm gonna take you, him be with it, it's gonna be frickin' fire, right? 16 year old chemistry experiment, right? Took all those supplements together,

went to the gym, rode my bike to the gym, and worked out like I was possessed. I remember this, like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, like this is amazing. Anyway, two hours later, I couldn't come down. I remember I came home and I sat on the edge of my bed, sweating and feeling my heart rate. I was put my hand up to my heart.

I remember thinking like, maybe my mom's gonna be so mad when I die. Like this is not gonna be, I'm gonna, so I laid down and tried to like call myself down and finally I was able to call, that was my last time combining all those horrible feelings. Don't combine those supplements. Did you guys hear the news now?

So Walmart is now putting their name in the hat for TikTok. So they're starting to bid on them, trying to court. Meanwhile, China is like, we got all the information already. Like, hey, cool pay us for it now. That sounds cool. Yeah. Like what? You get to last laugh in this one, right? Yeah, we get to last laugh. We got all the information already like hey cool pay us for it now. That sounds cool What you get to last laugh in this one last laugh. I mean, yeah sure people will still use it and do their little dances and whatnot But you know like come on What are we doing? Yeah, can I tell you that what so tiktok annoys a shout out of me

But why is it that so many medical professionals use tiktoks? That's just I see all these doctors and nurses nurses in their 40s and they're like, it's an employment. No, what it is is, I mean, this is, what is it doing? It's the, I blame it on Gary Vee. That's who I blame it on. I said, because everybody respects Gary Vee

as an entrepreneur, because he's a badass, of course. And I love Gary Vee. For sure he does. Yeah, yeah, I love Gary Vee. But you get him, someone like that, who influences so many other entrepreneurs, and he tells everybody that they need to get on TikTok because it's the next big platform to explode. So, all these physicians and entrepreneurs that are in their 40s, like you're alluding to, so they're trying to figure it out. They're getting on all the social media platforms.

I mean, we weren't much different, you know, five, six years ago. When you think about us, none of us were big Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, podcasting guys. Oh, I thought it was against it. Oh, yeah. No, you resist. We all resisted it quite a bit. I what I think is funny is that they hear that from like Gary Vee and they just start doing it with like no real rhyme or reason or understanding how how the platform works or how will this actually translate into leads. It's just like, oh, if I can get start doing it with like no real rhyme or reason or understanding how the platform works or how will this actually translate into leads. It's just like, oh, if I can get attention

on this platform. And I hear that the algorithm for TikTok, who did I see talking about this? I saw somebody talking about TikTok, does it different? Then like Instagram makes it difficult for people to find you or even your own people that are following you to see everything that you are posting in your feed.

So it's a little more, you know, exclusive, I guess you would say. And TikTok is more like you get a lot more likes and views. It's a lot easier. So I think what you see is some of these 40-year-olds that have never... Yeah, lots of attention. Yeah, they like this. Yeah, yeah. They're like, oh, they want to get a lot of likes or a lot of followers from this. It's 13-year-olds. Yeah, I know all the, yeah, they're like, oh, a lot of likes or a lot of followers from the 13 year olds. I know all the 13 year olds and things, you know, speaking of social media and influencers and things like that, do you guys know who Bella Thorn is?

Yeah. Oh, did you see this? No, I didn't see this, but I know, I know about her. I know she was a Disney actor. Yes. And then she went crazy. So she was a, she's, you know, she's like a, with a mask, yeah, mask, yeah, mask, whatever, like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake or whatever, right? Yeah. So she was a little mask, a tear.

So where did they all go crazy, isn't it? Well, yeah, right. She started an only fans page, okay? An only fans page in two days, made two million dollars. Crash crashed it and she crashed the site Bro, yeah, how many it's just so many creepy dudes, you know watching oh my daughter You show's that are just like yeah finally and I and I believe that's really Curricure to you because only fans is a membership thing

It's not like you pay for it. You have access forever. She talked about she was on an interview And she did this viral video of her talking about how she was, how it was terrible that Disney and she said and got molested. Oh, I didn't know that. That's what she said. Whoa. Yes, look it up, look it up. Sorry, didn't mean to bring conspiracy.

I don't know, here we go. Oh wow, I didn't know that, yeah. She did. I just thought the whole $2 million and two days was amazing. I don't know, man, I feel like. Hey, how conflicted do you feel as a dad? What do you mean, why would I be conflicted? Oh, yeah, your daughter's a nontrapreneur. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Why would I be conflicted? Oh, yeah, your daughter's a nontrapreneur. No, no, no, no, it's not worth that dude There's not enough money to just to sell yourself out that way. That's worth it. Yeah, you know, well

I mean it what's what and then okay, what's play this game? I was gonna say what's worse if she was hook in or she was a stripper even out I mean which one is which one is worse yeah that's that's not fair yeah yeah yeah what's worse it's like a path of tyrannical I know I'm an alcoholic but you know I could be a crack addict good point so yeah keep keep

anyway that's that's crazy two million dollars yeah two million crash the whole thing hey what's going on with sports right now? Keep reading how that they're taken. Please God don't go. Is sport really going to go here? Dude, hold on. You know why I'm saying this? This is a shit. So I don't follow it. Okay. I don't follow sports. I could I could care less usually, but I have a buddy who is a hard core Dodgers fan. Like I when I say hardcore, I mean,

when his kids were born, that was the first thing that they wore. Dodgers blue. He is just die hard, win lose, doesn't matter, whatever. And the other day, he sent me a video throwing away his Dodgers stuff, because he's so over sports, just not being sports anymore and being just all the part. Yeah, someone like him to do that makes me think that

if he's gonna do that. It's been hard for me, dude. I mean, I've remained pretty quiet about it, just because one, here's what, here's, somebody challenged me, I had someone who DM me and I went back and forth because they're like, you know, I feel like you avoid these questions. I'm like, no, you asked me a direct question,

like you just did related to this. I'll give my opinion on it, but I'm also not somebody who's gonna make a big deal about this stuff either. So, I mean, here's a deal. I support freedom of speech. You have every right to boycott games, to stand up and say things, kneel down and do things.

I support all that. I mean, if you wanna do that, you can do that. I also support people that decide, hey, I don't want to see that. And I don't want to watch it. I don't want to be a part of it. And to me, that's the only thing that I feel I should do. I don't have a dog in this fight

to where I feel the need to use my platform to voice my opinion all this. It's just that, well, I don't like watching the NBA right now, it's just too much for me. It's, they've gone way over the top on the political side and pushing the BLM thing big time. And it's at a point where it's like, I want, I tune into sports to tune out the rest of this world. Yeah, that makes sense.

That's what draws me is this. Is this not a escape right now, anywhere? That's right. I don't feel like I get my escape by doing that. I mean, it's already enough that being in the limelight, like we are, we get constant messages and we're talking about it and we're always on social and we're seeing all this stuff all the time.

My butt, there's a huge division in half of my friends with because of all the political race going on right now. Man, nothing more than ever do I want to just tune in to like my favorite sport, watch it, and not have any of that stuff. I just want to see the game. I love the game. I love the game so much that that's all I want.

And it's not right now. And you know what? I respect the men that want to make a point because they feel strong about something, but my way of making a point is like, I'm not gonna watch. I'm not gonna tune in. And we're not gonna get my ratings.

I was gonna say you're not alone. I know their ratings are terrible during a time when their ratings should be crushing because there's nothing else to do. Aren't they talking about maybe like, canceling seasons or something? Well, they just, so last night, and this just just came down. But now I'm not

watching, right? So I and I'm in a thread. There's a like we are sports thread. These are my close friend that we that's what we have most in common as sports and we talk a lot of trash. We all have different sports teams that we like. And so I'm still somewhat in the loop of like what's going on in the NBA, but I'm not watching like I normally am because I'm in this thread. And so I didn't even know until one of them said like, well, I guess we won't be watching any NBA games tonight. I'm like, what's going on? They're like, oh yeah, the NBA is the teams, the Lakers,

the Trailblazers, the Milwaukee Bucks, and I forgot who the fourth team was, all decided they're not gonna play. Oh yeah, I think it was magic, you're right. All decided we're not gonna play. So they just decided we're not gonna play, and then, I think it was magic, you're right. All decided we're not gonna play. So they just decided we're not gonna play and then I know LeBron came out with a tweet that said like they're considering boycotting the whole season

and that they were gonna just stop, potentially stop playing all together all due to the response to the Jacob incident. But now news is coming out. This is not even 12 hours later from the boycott that they're all going back. And so the rumor is that, you know, China has a lot of power and pull over a lot of these MBA players

and are saying, you guys need to get your ass back to work or we're not gonna make very much, you're not gonna make money or any contribution from R&D over here and now they're going to back to play. Oh. So that's the rumor. Now I'm like I said disconnected because I'm not watching it as much, but yeah, and this is just it.

I don't want to be in all that bullshit, dude. I just want to watch the game, dude. I just want to watch you make a sports man. You make a really good point. People like they like certain forms of entertainment to get away and escape from stressful situation. This is why during stressful times, super hero movies tend to do really well because super hero movies aren't talking about what's happening

right now. It's a fantasy world. You're watching sports or like that. Oh, it's just football. We know who wins. We know who loses. Oh, it's basketball. It's objective. We see the score. Here we go. But so it makes sense that that would turn off. I mean, you know, it's interesting right now to kind of bring up to with the video game world. So you're talking about like versions of entertainment to go As a place in terms of like I want to escape and I want to like just play this game mindlessly and all this kind of stuff If you guys have have you watched the trailer for the new called duty. No. Oh, so it's really fascinating. It's, so they use clips from this viral video

from a long time ago. I don't know if it's from the 70s or from a while ago from this KGB, XKGB agent that was kind of talking about how they're used, we're gonna use psychological warfare like against America and like the, I know you've seen this before, Sal, this specific video, but it goes into great detail of how they would plan something,

like what we're seeing, like happening within our country. And it was interesting because it's like, I wonder if they're trying to educate people on like past historical videos and things that have happened that people have started to talk about these things in depth and try to explain this. I don't know, I was watching last night too, and again, it was not a fan, okay, so I love the show, Hard Knocks. I don't know if you guys have ever seen Hard Knocks before, and I'm not sure if you guys have seen it,

but I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think it's a little bit more fun, and I think watching last night too and then again, it just was not a fan. Okay, so I love the show Hard knocks. I don't know if you guys have ever seen hard knocks before and saw an HBO. I believe does HBO does it or show time one of those two

I forget which one so hard knocks is they always they've been doing this now for I want to say good seven seven eight years. It's been a while now every year. They follow like one NFL team Like during the preseason, like, and it's really cool. And it's because I think it's HBO done really well. Like it's, it's shot really good. They mic up the players. You get a lot of cool behind the scenes with the coaches and the players and the tryouts.

And you see the cuts of the guys like, it's just a really cool for sports fanatics. Guys that are just getting excited for the NFL. You get to kind of watch this show. And it's like happening like right now, this is they're going through camp right now. And they they they they film it pretty close to live. You're only like, I want to say a week or two behind what's what's happening in real time for sports.

And so Katrina and I were like looking for a show. Yeah, there it is right there. They followed the LA Rams and Chargers because it's they're both using the same facility. I love hard knocks. So it's all excited about that. I both using the same facility. I love hard knocks. So I was all excited about that. I'm like, oh cool, we love hard knocks. It's already got three episodes out.

Let's start to watch it. And so, you know, we watched the first two episodes the night before last and then, could you treat us like, hey, do you want to finish hard knocks? I'm like, yeah, put it on if you want. I'm like, the whole thing is around COVID. And I get it because that's a big deal right now. And like trying to navigate and figure this but again It's just an example. I'm so thirsty for sports that I like I want to see the hitting the shit talking

The like great plays being executed the guy who's the underdog who's not who's wearing a mask who's not That's it. It's all about guys who got oh shit another guy got it, you know, and then like what was it like getting COVID and you know Oh, I was an outcast and nobody liked me. All that talking. Oh yeah, and it's, you know, it's like watching porn with dialogue. Oh, it's, nobody wants to hear you talk. Come on, pizza guy.

Just take your shirt off. It is, it is. And, you know, there's, okay, obviously, there's a side of it, understands this is a big part of what these guys are all having to deal with this year, but it doesn't make for good television and entertainment. Not for so, at least not for me. Like I want to see what I tune into sports is exactly what I just alluded to.

Like I want to see the hard hits, the great plays, the underdog training. Yeah, the training of the athletes. Sports. Yes. That's what I love the game. And it's like everything is about, you know, players getting in trouble for not wearing their mat. They got these little sensors that if they're not six feet apart,

they vibrate and beat Monom, you know, one coach gets it, then it's a false negative and all the stress of like this guy getting, it's just like, I told you, 77 that tested positive or whatever. And then they came back and we're like, oh, they're all false negatives. Oh, dude, yeah.

Yeah, that's what happened to one of the coaches in Hardinocks, like, okay, first of all, one of the coaches had already got it before the season started, an older guy. So he had experience of getting it and tells his story of what it was like having it. Then another player, their whole family got it, and they interview them.

They tell their whole story how they got it. What it was, it came from their nanny, and then the whole family got it, and they, who was really sick out of them. Then we were covered, and we're fine. So yeah, it's, so it's all centered around that right now and I feel like I'm on episode three and I can't get out of it. I'm like, dude, I just want to watch the game, dude.

I want to watch sports. Well, I'm going to change the subject real quick and just talk about Adam's balls again. Well, tell you what, I tell you what those balls are. Like them or what balls again. Whoa, what, tell you what, those balls. I can't remember what. Oh man, let me tell you. They're delicious, right? They are very good. Okay, so the chocolate ones are better.

I just say, so Jerry's made three now. She's made one with the vanilla protein, one with the chocolate protein, and then one with the vanilla protein, but with the peanut butter chips. I like the peanut butter chips. So I like the chocolate and chocolate. Do you really?

Which is not normal for me. I normally don't like chocolate, but the chocolate and chocolate. Do you really? Which is not normal for men. No, we don't like chocolate. But the chocolate on chocolate chip balls are the best. They're no bake. Yeah, no. These are no bake. So this is the recipe you can find it on our Organifies Instagram page or their website.

And they use their protein and the ingredients are all very good, very clean. Macros are good. No bake, you put them in the freezer or the fridge and then you're so good. And they're excellent. Hey, remember how we were talking about, we had a conversation around college, higher education, is it worth the cost to get a degree or not, not stuff or that whole thing? So I found an article, actually someone sent me this article because of that episode.

And the title of it is, these are the most regretted college majors. And then they also had the least regretted college majors. Oh, that's interesting. Interesting, right? So as of right now, here are some of the five most regretted- Get ready to trigger. College majors. Okay.

Ornamental horticulture. Yeah. No, number one English and foreign language majors. It is most regrettable. Number one, because people say it's impractical, has limited job opportunities. You could basically be a teacher. Another one is biological and physical sciences.

Now I thought that's interesting, but the reason why they say is because that there's not much of a benefit in getting an advanced degree in addition to their bachelor's. So it's like bachelor, but then after that, not much to do. Education, believe it or not, degree in education, because they said they were limited job opportunities, social sciences, and law, again, to general and practical communications, to general.

And then the five least regretted majors. Number one, you guys want to guess? Some in doctor. Computer science and mathematics. Yeah, engineering or something. Yeah, they said that they loved it. Business, they said it was really good. Business is great. Engineering in general, really good. Health administration and assisting, and then health sciences and technologies. So as of right now, those are the majors that most so.

Doctor, engineer. What else did you, what was, a computer science mathematics? Or like lawyer? No, the law was actually one of the more regrett, one of the more regrettowans. I think if you get a law degree, but you don't go and become a lawyer. No, the law was actually one of the more regrett, one of the more regrett ones. I think if you get a law degree but you don't go and get the, you know, become a lawyer. Well, yeah, then you're, yeah, you're, this is too hard. Yeah, that was an

accident. Yeah, or like me. Yeah, you're like, well, I gotta read all those books. I know, like it's so boring. I'll get the degree, but I don't want to read. Yeah, I don't want to read. Yeah, what the little, let's say that one. That says I'm good. Hey, I read a funny , uh, funny article the other day. So you know Google Maps, how you can go on there, type in an address, get the street view, and kind of see what's going on. Yeah.

Okay, you guys ever look at your house and see this? Yeah. Okay, sometimes. So I guess some guy went on there, and I think he looked up his address, and saw some strange car in his driveway, and his wife outside, and some guy. No.

Codd-er-cheating, dude. On Google Maps. With Google Maps, dude guy? No. Codd-Codd-Cheating, dude. On Google Maps. With Google Maps. No way. Codd-Cheating. Now how did that work? Because it's not real time. Not real time, but it's relatively recent.

Because that's even worse, right? He's just happened to be checking it one day. It wasn't even when she was actually the day she's cheated. She cheated like, fucking, five months ago. And that's a good idea. Because it's an old image. Yeah, I don't know how old it was, but he's pretty old. I know, or at least when I looked it up

and I checked my house, I remember seeing a car parked in the driveway or whatever I'm like, oh, that was like months ago. You did a pixelated street view. Yeah, it's definitely not up to date. No, he saw there was a picture of her with this man and they were like,

the way they were standing with each other apparently was like, he's like, that's not me. Yeah, I don't drive that. That's Sean. Yeah, that's my home inspector yeah why is he grabbing her anyway so he caught her cheating through Google Maps oh I know that's what a way to find out yeah oh hey we need to talk about this content we've never done a contest like this before I'm excited in the history of mind pump I know I'm I'm excited for this one and I it's going to stir up some fun a little bit. Yeah.

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I'm just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Under trained muscle group for most people. Back. I would say properly. I was kind of thinking wrong, boy. Properly core properly. Okay, I do.

Yeah, core, a lot of people work out their core and I'll say quotations because they want their abs to look good. But very rarely do you run into anybody who does proper core work. I mean, here's a good example, right? When Fisial Ball started becoming a staple in the gym, I would see people in the gyms that I would manage do a million Fisial Ball crunches. And I never saw anybody do them properly.

In fact, it was one of the most effective ways I sold personal training. I'd walk up to them and I'd be like, oh, how many reps can you do? And people are always excited to tell you that they could do 50. I'd be like, oh, that's wow, you could do 50 of them. And they're rolling their hips up and like folding their body

forward. Oh yeah, and so I'd say, okay, can I show, let me see if you can, can you do them a different way? Let me show you and then I would show them how to do it properly and they'd do like five. They're like, oh my God, I feel that totally different. And it's because most people don't work. They're core properly because most people,

even if we just talk about abs, for example, all they know is if you fold the body in half through working your abs, that's what they think. They don't realize that folding the body in half can mean hip flexors and not abs. So I would show people proper ways to activate and work parts of the core and then it would blow them away. So that's, I'd say for probably one of them.

I agree with that, although I would make the case for back too, though. I really, because first of all, I don't think anybody trains the posterior chain enough, I mean, or for the most part, like at least 90 plus percent of the population, just because we're so anteriorly driven, we do everything in front of us. You just don't do anything with your hands behind you. You just press for, for your kids?

Yeah, yeah, that's right, right? For us, yeah. Or wipe your butt, right? That's about it. Everything else is done in front of you most of the time. And so even if you do exercise and train, we're still so driven in front of it. So rounded forward.

So, and then when you do see somebody who trains and works out and they try and train their back, most people don't know how to engage their back. Most people pull with their arms and they still have the rolled forward shoulders when they row. I mean, at least in my experience and most of the clients that I helped, if I sat somebody, even if you had some experience in lifting and I sat you into a seated row or a bent over row and I should do it, almost all of them didn't know how to retract the shoulder

row. They were always still in this protracted, they could look at somebody else doing a Cedar row and sit up tall and straight and they could pull in with their arms and try and emulate what they saw, but they didn't know how to really engage the back, which is very common because if you're always doing everything in front of you and you're never doing nothing back there, it's hard to work that. So I think the back, the posterior chain in general is just maybe hamstrings you, you can make a good case for or two. It's probably the most underdeveloped or chronically under-trained. Yeah, I could make it an argument for rotators, you know, shoulders mainly because I think that even if you're a gym-minded person, like you're constantly lifting weights

and you're doing it all in the sagittal plane, you're not really working outside of that and you're not really expressing rotation as it should, which then inevitably leads to problems, you know, and the show, even if you are working on yourself, like you neglect that aspect of function that that joint can provide.

So I think that's why I'm always like bringing that up constantly just because I just don't see it unless it's very intentionally programmed in there to where somebody's gonna put that in because nothing like any of the machines that you're gonna find are really gonna have that available for that. Now that being said, I mean, this is the type of stuff

and I like questions like this because these are the types of things that we would think about when we were putting together programs. And when we originally first did the first three and then we didn't have all the other ones, they were designed for you to go through all of them consecutively. You're supposed to go through maps, anabolic, maps for formats, and maps aesthetic. It's basically nine months of programming, and in there, we address all these things.

There's a major component in there to post-ear chain. There's a major component to unilateral movement, rotational exercises, ab workout. There is a component to all these things that we think that the majority of people are chronically under training to make sure that they address that through all the, if you go through all that. So, you know, if you're a listener and you're coming in for the first time, like, that, this is the way they were designed for most people

to follow that anabolic performance that a state. Does that mean you have to do that? You can't start with another program or go different, no, of course not. But when we wrote them, we wrote them with these types of thoughts into consideration. We thought about the average person, what do they neglect the most and what do they need to be doing or what are they most likely to make when putting together a program or starting their training and then how do we address that in a program? Yeah, and there's a couple of things to consider just because modern lifestyle now involves a lot of sitting and a lot of modern lifestyle now involves a lot of sitting

and a lot of looking at screens and a lot of typing. I remember seeing this transition working in gyms where more and more people were coming in with forward head neck issues and wrist issues, not from overuse but rather from underuse. And I've fixed and helped a lot of people solve things like the wrist issues or their, what's it called when you have wrist issues when you work on computers all the time? There you go, carpal tunnel syndrome,

because their hands were overstressed in one direction, not strengthening another, and very weak. And so believe it or not, something that I never thought I would do or it didn't consider when I first became a trainer that actually became important, was training people's hands and wrists. I would do a lot of hand and wrist training with people to solve some of these issues.

People have chronically weak hands and chronic dysfunction in the way the wrists and hands operate because of what we do all day long and how we don't strengthen them. So those are two other areas you might want to consider. Next question is from Thieves Cray K. I just did a week of steep mountain trekking and realized I have under-trained endurance. I currently lift weights three to six days a week. How do I program endurance or uphill trekking training into my workouts without sacrificing muscle growth? Is this possible? So one of my one of the best ways I can illustrate kind of what I'm about to communicate is like when you play a video game and you pick your character so you got the character on the screen.

And then next to the character there's all these attributes. Right? It's like strength, speed, strength, you know, whatever stamina, you know, resiliency, resiliency. And you can adjust each one, but if you move one more over to make it stronger, you take away from the other ones. That kind of represents your body's physical performance. The more endurance I train for, the less maximal strength I'm going to have. So those tend to be, although they can help each other,

sometimes they can be inversely related, especially when we start to look for high levels of performance. So if you're like really into resistance training, and it's all about muscle and strength, a little bit of endurance is gonna help you. You need to have enough endurance to be able to perform your resistance training exercises.

But if you start to train for more endurance, or endurance that's gonna give you stamina for endurance or related activities like trekking, or cycling, or endurance, endurance that's gonna give you stamina for endurance or related activities like trekking or cycling or running, you're probably going to take away a little bit of your ability to gain strength and muscle. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's whatever you prefer.

Some people like to be extreme in one and not in the other. Some, there's power lifters that like to be super, super strong, could care less about being able to run a mile or hike 15 miles or whatever. And then there's the opposite. There's people that look, they just want to be able to cycle for 50 miles and really don't care about squatting 300 pounds. So, and then there's people who like to be somewhere in the middle or a mix of them,

you have to decide for yourself what's going to give you the best quality of life What do you enjoy and train accordingly now based off what you said you live for eight three to six days a week If you lift weight three days a weight three days a week then two days a week of trekking is fine Yeah, if you live if you want to do more stamina And then I would go three days of trekking two days of weights or four days of trekking one day of weights You know then that's mostly endurance, right? So that's kind of how you want to measure it out. Six days a week of resistance training, you're not going to have much room to really train a lot of stamina endurance. You might run the risk of overdoing it if you do that. But at the end of the day, you do have to assess how much you're willing to sacrifice in those two different pursuits,

because they are different. And like you highlighted, it's one of those things where I know people want to have it all. And I want to be super lean, but I want to be humongous and jacked all at the same time, and I want to be able to sprint a one-minute mile, whatever. Wow, yeah, it's really fast. That's a great example. You know, there's some people out there that might want that. It would be pretty cool actually. But yeah, but the thing is,

like you're always gonna be sacrificing on one end of the spectrum versus the other in order to get closer to the specific goal that you have. So you just have to be a little more specific with your goal and understand what that outcome looks like. I really think it's our own insecurities about our body and stuff that keeps us from committing one way or the other way. We're enjoying it.

Yeah, right. So I love this. I don't know, out of the three of us, I probably move the most out of modalities, I think, out of us. We all do it pretty good, but I think I do this a lot. If I can recommend this game, it's just better. I just like to, yeah, I'm just better at this, you know, so no, what I mean by that,

it's like you will, you'll see my body change a lot because of what I'm focused on. And you know, whether it was swimming for a while or mobility or chasing salve for PRs or getting on a stage and presenting my physique, I mean, all of four of those are extremely different goals. And if I put a lot of energy in any of them, they take away from the other three. And so, and instead of like kind of,

you know, putting one foot in and one foot out and each one of them, I just fully commit, like I'm gonna be the mobility guy. And part of being the mobility guy is, I don't give two shits what I look like on stage or if Sal can out-dead lift me. That's not part of the goal, the goal is, I wanna become the most mobile version of myself, and so my commitment goes all there.

And do I know that doing that, I'm gonna not look as aesthetic as I did as a bodybuilder or be as strong as I was trying to chase Sal with deadlifts? Of course. But that's not the goal right now. And what I know is that overall when you look at your training journey, not just this small focus for six months or a year or whatever you decided to do it, over the total journey, they all really, really help each other. And it's all gonna compliment my overall fitness. It's not like I can't go after,

like I can't, I can be a mobility guy, like hardcore for a whole year, lose a bunch of that sexy muscle, lose a bunch of that strength, and then all of a sudden after that year go, all right, now I wanna go after being strong as hell again. And it'll actually really benefit me. I'll probably feel a lot better.

I may even reach a new PR going back to it. It's okay. And I think you're better off when you set new goals like this, is committing to it. It's just a healthy relationship with your body and with exercise. You're having fun with it, really,

is what it's all about. Whatever that means for you, I think that's the important message here. Whatever it means to you, have fun with it and enjoy it because what you're looking at is a lifetime of fitness. You know, you made a great point at him. You said, don't look at it like such a short period.

Totally true. You know, if you're lucky and blessed, you're gonna live a long life. And in that long life, or part of living a long life is being active, taking care of your body. Stop looking at things so narrow-minded. Will you lose a little bit of strength and muscle if you start to focus

on trekking? Maybe, probably a little bit, but guess what? You'll get better at trekking, you'll enjoy something else. And you're going to be healthy. You're not going to be less healthy. Right. You know what I'm saying? Going after all these different pursuits are going to make you healthier by changing it up. You'll be healthier than the person who's always trying to do the same thing and fighting with their body.

Like a little bit of this, a little bit of that, but I'm not afraid to go too afraid to go too far in this direction in fear. I might lose a little muscle or lose a little bit of strength. It's okay. Like overall, you're being active and you're seeking novelty and you're changing things up and you're challenging your body. Like these are all good stresses that you're seeking novelty and you're changing things up

and you're challenging your body. These are all good stresses that you're adding and you're only gonna get better overall and it's only going to improve your lifelong journey of fitness. Mixed life more interesting. Next question is from BJ Sayer. What actually constitutes processed foods? Is protein powder processed?

How about protein bars or yogurt? Where do you draw the line? Okay, so great question. I actually got a huge debate once in my all nuance. In my wellness studio. So back in the day, I had a wellness studio and there were other trainers in there and we had massage therapists, acupuncturists and I had some nutrition people and physical therapists and essentially it was the goal was you come in there and we had massage therapists, acupuncturists and I had some nutrition people and physical therapists and essentially it with the goal was you come in here and you kind of one stop shop type of deal.

But we had this wonderful environment because it was a small facility. I would be in their training client and there might be four other trainers with clients. We're all doing our own thing but we would have all these cross discussions across the gym and these wonderful debates and everybody was super open and it was

really really fun and I would always rant and rave about avoiding processed foods just like I do on the podcast right I would talk about how processed foods encourage over eating how they tend to promote poor health and all that stuff. Anyway one of my other trainers clients worked in the food industry. You actually owned a plant that got prunes or got plums, dried them, turned them into prunes, and then sold them and packaged them. And I remember I was talking about process files, telling my client, avoid heavily processed foods, they promote overeating, they do this and that, and then he pipes up and he goes, oh yeah, name one food that is in processed.

I'm like, what do you mean by that? they do this and that and then he pipes up and he goes, oh yeah, name one food that is in process. I'm like, what do you mean by that? And he goes, a stake is processed. They have to cut it out, they have to put in the package, they have to make sure that it doesn't have, that there's certain cuts this and that. He goes, I process food, he goes, I sell prunes, but the prunes have to go in the package,

I have to process them, I have to go through the plant. And I say, okay, fair enough, fair enough. 99% of the food that you're gonna eat, unless you grow it yourself, actually, in fact, even if you grow it, there's a, you have to process it somewhat, right, you gotta pick it out of the ground, wash it, cut certain parts off, that's all considered processing.

So let's get a little bit more specific. I've heard the same argument for GMO, but keep going. Yeah, so let's get a little bit more specific, okay. When we talk about processed foods, what we're talking about are foods that typically have more than one or two or three ingredients that come into box, they come in a wrapper, it's not a steak.

When you look at a steak, the ingredients are steak. When I look at a banana, the ingredients are banana, but if I look at banana flavored candy or some like a meat flavored whatever, or meat product like sausage, then you see all these different ingredients and this whole process that is designed to make the food as palatable as possible.

Most of the money that goes into heavily processed foods, that's why I don't say processed anymore, say heavily processed foods, that's why I don't say processed anymore, say heavily processed food, goes into dramatically increasing the palatability of the food. Now, why can that be a bad thing? It can be a bad thing because that makes us overeat. We now finally have studies to support this. On average, people eat 500 more calories a day

for meeting heavily processed food. That's pounds of body fat a month on your body. That's not a little bit. 500 calories is not a small bump and it's consistent across all the studies. They're double blind, they're crossover studies, they're controlled, they're very, very good. I've experienced it with clients.

So that's the thing. Now, protein powder is extremely processed, okay? You're eating protein that came from what? I don't know, way plants, now it tastes like chocolate cake. Yeah, of course, it's heavily processed. Now, here's a deal. Use it for what it's good for. I didn't get enough protein in my diet today.

It's convenient. It doesn't come with fat and carbs, so I can hit my calories. Here I go. I'll take this protein shake. But if all you did was take protein shakes and make foods out of protein, like we talked about the peanut butter balls

and protein bars, you probably would also be overeating. You probably would find yourself having a tendency to overeat because those foods are also designed to be hyper-palatable. Now, I'm not gonna put them in the same categories like potato chips and that kind of stuff because they Part of their goal is to be high protein and somewhat healthy so they have some limitations But yes, those are considered processed Minimally processed foods yogurt you can get minimally processed yogurt plain It doesn't have did I know, listening, listening, listening.

I mean, we start going down, yeah, listen, Linda. Going down this rabbit hole is, I got somebody who DM me after one of my, you know, question things that I do on my Instagram story and somebody asked about magic spoon and so magic spoon came up and they're like, you know, I thought you guys are anti-process foods. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

Anti-process foods. Like there's not a day that goes by that I don't have something that is somewhat processed to your point. Everything is. But my goal always is to try and eat as much whole foods as I possibly can and minimize how much things I ingest that are processed. It's just that simple. It's not that kind of mindset. It's not that complicated.

And there's not a line, they're not drawing a line in the sand of these are all good foods, these are all bad foods. It's understanding that foods are engineered to make you want to eat tons of them. Listen, we're sponsored by lots of brands like protein powders and cereals

that are processed foods. If you found yourself, if you called me up and you said, you're a client of mine, and you said, Adam, I can't stop eating this mad you spoon. I'm eating four boxes a day. Should I keep eating it? Because it's healthy and it's good for me. Just use the mind pump code.

Yeah, no. No, I would say no, absolutely not. If you're abusing it, you know, just like you could abuse the protein powder, then we have an issue. And if I had the choice, as your trainer, if you said, hey, Adam, I'm thinking about sitting down and having six ounces of steak with some white rice and a cup of broccoli, or I was thinking about pouring a bowl of magic spoon, what would you rather me do?

The fuck do you think I'm going to say? I'm going to tell the person I'd much rather than eat that meat, but at the same time, if they were going to, if they weren't't gonna get up and make themselves steak rice and broccoli and they were craving something sweet and they're watching TV and they were thinking about getting up and going in a box of cookies and instead they go grab a bowl of magic spoon, I would much rather see that. So it's really just the awareness of what you're doing and be aware that when the more process it is, the more palatable it's probably going to be and the more what you're doing and be aware that when the more process it is, the more

palatable it's probably going to be and the more susceptible you're going to be to overconsuming. And it's your job to be disciplined enough to be aware of that and know when you're abusing it. And I understand that a lot of people are not very aware. And so become aware of what ones are really processed, what is the difference between heavily processed foods and what is the difference between whole foods, everybody's goal should be to get as much whole foods as possible.

But I would be a total hypocrite if I drew a line in the sand and said, these are bad foods and these are good foods. And I only recommend whole foods because that's not how I live. Yeah. And you also have to understand that processed foods also have a lot of value. One thing that processed foods do very well is they have a long shelf life. There is a lot of value in that, especially when you're transporting food long distances, when people need to store food, if there's an emergency,

it's extremely efficient. That's a great quality. Also, there's nothing wrong with enjoying hyper-palatable food. That's a part of life. You know, just don't do it the wrong way. I mean, there's a difference between mindless-leading food and eating food in a mindful way. It's very different. One looks like binging. The other one looks like enjoying every bite, savoring it, and enjoying the company around you. Two very, very different things. Hyper-palatable, heavily processed foods.

If you're aware of the potential effects on you, and if you try to minimize how many of you can consume, you're doing a pretty damn good job. If you're not aware, like most people, and they make up a bulk of your nutrition, it's gonna be very difficult to eat the right amount of food in calories and to hit the right macros, and even just eat in a healthy way. It's gonna be very, very difficult because those foods, if you're not aware, will make you overeat in a big way.

Next question is from Cassidy Hoffman official. Do you think that gluttony is a fair criticism of Christianity? Have you seen clients or others use faith to battle gluttony? Wow. Hey, Cassidy's official now, that's goodness. Yeah, I'll go with the second part first, which is have you seen clients or others use faith

to battle gluttony? Okay, so when you look at studies on diets or particular ways of eating, what you find is a very high failure rate. I think it's something like 80 something percent of people who go on a diet totally fail. Even if their intentions are good, I want to lose weight, I want to improve my health. It often is those kinds of intentions and they fail very high. However, when people embark on a diet for moral or spiritual or faith-based reasons. Okay, the success rate is very high.

So let's talk about, let's step out of Christianity for a second, I'll address that, but let's step out there for a second. Let's look at vegans. Vegans who become vegans because they're trying to improve their health, high failure rate. Vegans who become vegans because they believe it's moral to not eat animals animals very high success rate

You look at the seventh-day Adventist. This is a Offset kind of Christian group that eats in a particular way based off their faith or look at Mormons more. I'm so they don't have soda. They don't have yeah a lot of things right They're very very good with it. Why because they're eating in a way that goes beyond themselves This is the this is the mental aspect of it. I'm not just doing this for me. I'm doing this for this moral reason that's bigger than myself, whether it be for the benefit of animals, or maybe it be a God. My God, this is why I eat this way because God tells me to, or because my body is a temple. God says says take care of my temple. Whatever it is, faith behind or moral reasons behind your choices, just from a psychological standpoint, is one of the most powerful ways people

can make changes in their life. Look at the 12 steps to quitting drugs and alcohol. It's based on religion. I think it's a, in fact, I believe it's a Christian application and it has it one of the higher success rates because because of that that morality that goes behind it. Now to the first part, I think gluttony is a fair criticism of Christianity. You know, I was in atheists for a long time and one of my biggest criticisms of all religion was how imperfect people who followed religions were. The hypocrisy. I would walk into a church, you know, my family was Catholic, so even though I was atheist, I'd go to family events and I'd sit in there just looking around, you know, look at that person, they're over here,

you know, doing their thing and I, I know that person and they're so not perfect. I know that person's so not perfect, that person's so not perfect. And once I flip that on myself, it's like going to the gym, imagine going to the gym, looking at all these people working out

and then saying to yourself, look how he's fat people. They don't really believe in what they're doing. I know they eat bad, they're in your work. They're trying. The reality is, like, man, they're in a single perfect person in this world. Everybody struggles with everything and gluttony as defined in Christianity essentially is eating a lot of food or being greedy

at the at the detriment of somebody who's needy. In other words, I'm eating so much food and I'm just stuffing myself even those people around me that need food. That's kind of the definition of gluttony. Well, you know what, look in the mirror. If you have more than one pair of shoes, one pair of pants, a shirt, if you have a roof, you are, I guess I could call you that kind of a person as well, right? Because there's so many people that could need those things. Nobody's perfect, so. Yeah, I mean, this is an interesting question,

because I mean, I did grow up in a lot in the culture of church, and like I had my own fair share of criticisms about just the culture in general just by observing a lot and being in the back and not feeling like I was ever like in the community. I was in the community. I was out of the community because there was a lot of the judgmental stuff that came but it was you know hypocritical in some of these aspects like even this one being mentioned there was not a lot of emphasis on health

practices and having healthy, you know, practices involved and wrapped into all these other parts of faith-based practices. And so I was always curious about why that wasn't highlighted, you know, as strongly as all these other values that they're promoting within church. But, again, it was just a reflection of the culture where I was. So if I was in the Midwest and I'm in a church there where it was very much like the culture that I was around was in de-potlucking and into all these like, they showed love by providing food for everybody. And so this became like part of the thing where it was like we all come here, we eat and we share

and it's a way that they show love. And so it's, again, it's from an outside perspective, you could pick apart like sort of any organization that you could find holes in something that I feel like, you know, like you're gonna find that in any organization that you're gonna look into that deeply. Well, the, you know, the Bible addresses your, your both your points and Matthew 7.5, right? It's the, pull the plank out of your own eye before you pull the sliver out of somebody else's. Right. So it addresses that exact thing.

And I think I struggled with this too, being a fitness professional in my early 20s, like seeing the same thing in the hypocrisy. I was still in my 20s going through a lot of anger, animosity towards my family and how I was raised. And so I had a lot of bitterness I was dealing with. And I judged the same way. I looked at these people and thought, now they talk about all these other things

that they're trying to focus on and be good. And yet here they are poisoning their body. And that's considered one of the seven deadly sins and yada yada yada. I also think that we are in the middle of a kind of shift because there is that starting to happen now. Like I don't know how familiar you guys are with churches and Christianity

and another religions too are starting to follow suit. This is just, this is relatively new when you compare to religion. A hundred years ago, religions weren't having to speak to gluttony very much. There was a scarcity of food. Not a lot of people were abusing this. So in our lifetime, we have seen a major shift. I mean, processed foods have really hit the scene

just in the last 20 to 30 years. This hasn't been something very long that people have been obesity is like skyrocketed just recently. That's a great point. When you compare it to religion that's been taught for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, this is something that this is a new battle and you are seeing some churches and some religions starting to address it. I just don't think they ever had to.

Not to mention the misinformation they're getting from the standards for nutrition, given from the government. Where do you get the information that's sought? The general public wasn't even receiving it. Well, I'll say this. Greed is always been with people. It's always been a problem, doesn't matter how much, or a little you have, or what system of government,

whatever. Greedy people exist. Greedy is something that we all need to contend with. All of us suffer from some degree of it. Of course, especially if you live in this country, I can very easily make the case that you're greedy comparing you to somewhere else in the world. Now the religions, here's a deal, okay.

Fitness has been something I've been studying for a long time. Religion, I've learned it mainly because I started out as an atheist now, it's a little different. And here's what I found that was very interesting. In all the major religions, they all talk about greed and fasting in some way, shape, or form is embedded in every single religion. Fasting was a way for these religions to teach people or themselves how to be without-

How to abstain. How to detach, how to abstain. So they have been having some of these conversations about gluttony and greed. That's been around for a very long time, but Adam makes an excellent point. We haven't had obesity really hasn't been in it. If you look at the whole history of the church,

thousands of years, it's the last what, 50, that we're dealing with obesity. It's relatively new. Yeah, so I think it's fair to criticize anybody's practice. So long as you do it objectively with reason, but I don't think it's fair to isolate it or to one specific practice. I don't think it's a Christian thing or a Judaism thing or Islamic thing or Buddhist thing. It's a human thing.

We deal with it all the time. It is a part of human nature to take more than you need and to over-indulge. It's not just with food. It happens with technology. It happens with sex. It happens with drugs. It happens with money. It happens with attention from other people.

It's just a human trait that we're always going to need to contend with. And I do think it's important that you become aware of it because happiness, that I'm starting to learn now as I get older is on the other side of that. Happiness comes from detachment, not from attachment. Look, MindPump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out, MindPump podcast on YouTube. You can also find all of us on Instagram.

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