Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1379: How to Develop the Upper Chest, the Dangers of Undereating Fat, the Negative Impact of Marijuana on Muscle Growth & More
Episode Date: September 12, 2020In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to develop the upper chest, the consequences of eating below the minimum daily requirement of fat, whether ru...nning with a plastic bag over the upper body helps burn more calories, and how smoking weed impacts gains. TV from back in the day. (4:27) Adam’s insecure moment. (6:54) California looks like Mars. (10:55) The controversial business of private firefighting. (13:07) Courteney Andrews is on a mission. (17:15) Mind Pump Reviews Mulan on Disney+. (19:42) Mind Pump’s favorite Disney films. (22:05) We are living in the greatest time alive for conspiracy theories. (23:15) Facebook backlash. (24:48) The Madden 2021 controversy. (29:41) Unconscious learning underlies belief in God, study suggests. (32:49) Fun Facts with Justin. (37:11) How the Pluto Pillow eliminated Sal’s neck pain. (40:34) #Quah question #1 - How do you develop the upper chest? (43:09) #Quah question #2 – What are the consequences of eating below the minimum daily requirement of fat? (50:39) #Quah question #3 – Does running with a plastic bag over the upper body help burn more calories? (54:48) #Quah question #4 - Can smoking weed impact gains? (58:08) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The controversial business of private firefighting MAPS Fitness Products Watch Mulan | Full Movie | Disney+ An independent report on Facebook’s alleged liberal bias tells us nothing Colin Kaepernick added to 'Madden 21' in game's latest update, is rated higher than Cam Newton and other QBs Unconscious learning underlies belief in God, study suggests LiDAR is driving a revolution in archelogy Visit Pluto Pillow for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout for 10% off** How To Do Chest Dips For A BIG Chest! How To Incline Dumbbell Press - The Right Way! (GROW YOUR CHEST) Mind Pump #1320: How To Eat To Build Muscle & Burn Fat Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources
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Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
In this episode of the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, Mind Pump,
we answer fitness and health questions for of them,
but the way we open the episode is with some introductory conversation. We talk about studies and current events.
We have a lot of fun.
By the way, if you wanna just fast forward
to your favorite part, go to minepodcast.com.
The whole podcast is timestamped.
Otherwise, do what we recommend.
Start from the beginning and come on the journey.
So I'm gonna give you a breakdown
of what happened in today's episode.
We started by talking about TV back in the day.
When we go back in the day,
we're talking about when Doug was a kid.
Way back.
Yeah, it's at the turn of the century,
a long time ago.
Antenna's in all.
Then I talked about how Adam had an insecure moment yesterday,
asking one of our staff members if he looked fat.
Although he looked amazing, in my opinion,
especially because he was wearing Viori clothing.
Viori is at the leisure wear that makes it look good, even if you're fat, right?
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Then we talked about the red sky outside here in the Bay Area.
It looks like Mars.
Yeah.
That led us to talk about private firefighters and their role in fighting fires.
I talked about Justin's wife looking really good.
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Then I talked about the movie adaptation of the Disney cartoon Mulan and my disappointment.
We talk about face-drag-in and Facebook's backlash that's happening a little bit right now.
Adam brought up Madden 2021 and their new character with a special move he can kneel when
you push any button.
Super cool.
I talked about a study showing that people who can subconsciously
pick up patterns tend to also believe in God.
That's kind of weird.
That led just into talking about hidden Mayan cities
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That was the beginning of this podcast about 40 minutes, and then we got into the questions.
Here's the first one.
How do you develop your upper chest?
So we talk about our favorite upper chest exercises.
The next question, what are the consequences
and symptoms of eating too little fat?
The next question, does running with a plastic bag
over your body help your body burn more calories?
And the final question, can smoking weed impact your gains
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Do you guys remember when remote controls had two buttons?
Do you remember that?
When TV remote controls had two.
A, B, A, B, select start.
No, that's right.
A, B, A, B, select start.
A, B, A, B, select start.
A, B, A, B, A, B, select start.
No, I'm telling my remote controls for TV, dude.
Wow.
Where you would just, it was just up and down.
That's how you could do.
And then if you had to go to the other one,
which was A or B, remember you had to click A or B
to get another set of channels.
Yeah, you have to get up and walk over the TV.
So my dad always had remote controls,
because he had kids.
So he'd be like, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch Wait till they vent something. What was A and B? Was it UHF, VHF?
Was that how it ran?
I don't even know.
Do you know how that breaks out?
Doug, you should know you were around before.
No idea.
Really?
I didn't have TV growing up.
At all?
No.
No TV at all growing up.
I had no TV growing up.
Green was your first TV.
Doug, you, Doug said.
After I moved out.
Then your family used like a chisel and a wagons.
In a rock?
Yes.
Ten commandments.
No, a real thing.
That was it.
So as a child, you had zero television.
If I went to a friend's house, I had television.
Okay.
But at my own home, no television.
So was it, but now it was at a common thing
then you go to kids house and watch TV or did you?
Oh yeah.
I was hungry for it.
I need some Killigain Island and Batman, you know back in the day the pal
That one. Yeah, you know one of course. It just goes to show you so people like Mary Ann
Yeah, so people like what would happen if we didn't have like lots of TV or media or whatever
We talk to each other look what a good guy yet. He's like the best person I've ever met a lot better
That's because of no TV probably absolutely. It probably a testament to it
He's such a great guy. I don't know. I have a theory that he's probably a TV junkie now
No, I was when I got my own place. Yeah, absolutely. I was bingeing it. You had to experience it
Yeah, but then now it's like most of it is garbage
What how old were you when you saw your first playboy?
when you saw your first playboy, because that was a big deal.
Oh, that's a pivotal man.
Yeah, actually I had a friend
that whose dad had some in his basement
and we discovered him.
Wow.
I was fairly young.
Yes, yes.
Marilyn Monroe, right?
I wanna go to his house too.
He had a TV and playboy.
Wow.
That's the thing.
Now, that kid turned out.
Where is he at life today?
I think he's in San Quentin.
But honestly, I have no idea where he's at.
Too much.
Yesterday, I forgot about this.
Maybe last so hard, I forgot,
but I wrote it down because I'm like,
I gotta bring this up on the show.
So Adam walks in the studio and says,
the most non-manally thing I've ever done to say. You walked in and I think it was to Andrew.
You're like, Andrew, nobody else answered this.
Hey, Andrew.
Yeah.
Did do I look fat?
This is, just to make me look fat.
I'm like, though.
You guys can't answer this.
I know what you're gonna say.
No, but it's, you don't sound like you're fat.
I wanted a true answer, you know what I'm saying?
I knew I would give you a new answer.
I knew I would give you a new answer. Yeah, not like it. First, what do you mean you don't think we're gonna tell you like you're fat. I wanted a true answer, you know what I'm saying? I knew it would give you some of your activity.
Yeah, not like it.
First, what do you mean you don't think we're gonna tell you
if you're fat?
You know we're gonna tell you if you're fat.
That's the problem, I say, I don't want that.
I want like someone like an honest opinion.
You want to come first?
Yeah, I ask you.
That's the way.
Somebody who I could fire, that's who I want.
You look gorgeous at him.
Actually, you look perfect.
He's on what about now, I turn around.
Yeah, yeah.
What about now? So why'd you ask that? Why. I turn around. I'm going to be up.
What about now?
So why'd you ask that?
Why was the deal?
You were in close.
I'm not fucking immune to feeling insecure every once in a while.
I felt a little scared for him.
Oh, that was a real deal?
Yeah, it was a moment.
Really?
I'm not allowed to have those.
Oh, you're handsome, too.
You're handsome.
You look good.
I don't want to be getting you guys
to give him some more.
No, I don't.
I look all right.
I feel good. I think you look great.
I feel good, but I have, I really haven't.
The show turned into the view all of a sudden.
Yeah, right.
I'm like, let me just pour my heart out
and I feel like you said, I feel about myself right.
No, I just, I have it.
You know, it's funny.
It's funny that we started with this television talk
because ironically, this was the conversation with Katrina.
I feel like we've been watching too much TV.
So we'd literally this week,
there's been no television after Mexico's a bed.
It's been like back to reading or growing,
doing like her and I are working on stuff
with real estate right now.
And so I think a lot of that,
like I think I can get caught in these like lulls
of working all day busy all the night
and get my time with my son,
and then, oh, I want a veg.
So you just haven't been active?
Yeah, I just haven't been my normal active self.
And so I've felt myself in a bit of rut.
And I always know because when I try and kickstart myself
with some consistency, it doesn't happen.
And I fall back in that, oh,
it's just relaxed, we'll watch a couple shows,
or what do I thought.
And I really think that it stems from that
because whenever I have like a really productive evening
where I read or I'm learning something
that has nothing to do with watching television
and just melting my brain,
I also tend to wake up the next day,
motivated to eat, write, train, well,
do all those things, it's like a momentum.
Growth mode.
It is.
It's growth mode.
Yeah, it is.
And when I'm not feeling that way,
I'm down on myself a little bit.
So, yeah.
I thought you were gonna say like watching TV,
maybe feeling secure because of the fit bodies.
That's too good.
No, not like that.
You look good, bro.
First of all, out of all of us,
when we're modeling our sponsor,
Viori's clothes, you look the best.
I do, you got the great proportion.
Fishing the best.
You do, you got the face and everything I wouldn't feel bad if I were you
yeah you were going all right there to you said the face thing we know I had the
fat face no no I didn't say fat face you got the handsome face dude well they're
all now the the new fall stuff man I'm excited like dude I put out a request for
a flannel like a long time ago I should probably like hit them up again see if
they're gonna make that happen.
Are you gonna just do the top button like you always do?
Yeah, there's such a mountain.
Joe actually DM me yesterday,
I forgot to tell you guys that,
he wants to link up again,
so we'll have him come back out here.
Dude, they're crushing, yeah.
Vuri is crushing, they're becoming mainstream brand.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's becoming a household name.
It was definitely one of those brands
when we first started working with them.
That was like, like only the cool kids knew. It's kind of like, oh, it's cool. You haven't
heard of them. You got to check them out. It's like going full on mainstream now.
Yeah. Well, I was like, I was grabbing just my clothes, you know, through the whole
thing of like evacuating. And I noticed like, I just grabbed a lot of like the, the
new stuff that I had ordered, you know, and just because like it's new, and it's like, I'm just like, okay,
with like getting rid of the old stuff,
but like redoing my whole wardrobe is so easy,
like they have like stuff for whatever I want to wear.
Yeah, dude, speaking of evacuating stuff,
so wake up this morning, you know, here in San Jose,
go outside and it looks like Mars.
Yeah, it looks like it's like,
yellowy orange, it's kind of weird.
The whole, okay, so I just watched Total Recall with my son the other day and in they and he travels to Mars and everything's red
That's what it looks like right now. It's like you're gonna walk outside. I don't see your eyes are gonna pop out of your head
Get to the chopper. Yeah, no, it's it's all red outside the sun
It looks like the the sun in Star Wars. Remember when Luke Skywalker's standing outside?
Oh, I don't remember that part.
His uncle's, of course you do.
And there's the sun behind it's like the red glowing,
special sun.
It looked like that.
But it didn't really smell too much like smoke.
And I read up on this, I'm like,
why does it look so bad, but I don't smell the smoke?
Apparently, the smoke is so high in the atmosphere
that it's not necessarily mixing with the breathing air.
So the air quality in some parts of the bay area are not that bad.
Really?
But when you look up in some parts, some parts according to Apple, it's terrible in some areas.
So I never even seen that.
I didn't know that was a feature on the Apple phone until like recently.
Oh, they have air quality is like part of the weather.
Yeah, it's like when you get when you look at the weather and you look at the temperature
normally, it just you know, 78.
But now like the screen is gray
and says like air quality, poor, unhealthy, don't go outside.
Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, it's COVID, may die.
Yes.
But it is weird to see that, right?
So my in-laws live in Vegas,
and I guess they were having really high winds.
And so all the smoke was getting like hard core blown
and super hot, it's also super hot over there, right?
110, 115.
And their air quality reached such a bad point.
I think it was yesterday that they were literally,
like they said, do not go outside, do not open windows.
The worst air quality, like rating you could get,
whatever it is red or whatever, they had yesterday.
To the point where they were literally telling people,
do not go outside.
So is this all the central valley fire,
like the smoke coming from there, you think?
This is more the valley, I think.
Because when I was there this week
and the valley was worse than in the Bay West.
Yeah, yeah.
So what it looks like today for us
was like what it looked like for them just the other day.
So I think it's coming from that direction, right?
Oh man.
What would they say?
The gender reveal party started it?
I know we should.
Yeah.
What are they doing? You know, it's been parties. know we should. That's going well. What are they doing with these stupid parties?
It's enough.
Speaking of the fires, like what was done.
I read, like just after, right after that episode
where we talked about the private firefighters, Justin,
if it was like a show thing or something.
Like the next day I'm reading, like,
I don't know, it was one of my newsletters hustle
or something like that.
And the up in that in it is they talk about private firefighters.
And so the average is $300 to $5,000 an hour
to hire a private team to get the process.
What do you require to do to become a private firefighter?
I'm assuming that you have to go through similar training
and stuff.
As anybody knows.
Yeah, and of course you would have to.
I mean, do they normally work for like the regular fire department, but then they do that on the
side or is this its own company, you know, that just tires these guys, I would think it,
maybe Doug can research this for us. I mean, I don't know what the hell you would research
here, but it's, I would imagine it's firefighters either want, you have to, like bad asses,
right? Like, yeah, either firefighters that are retired, right? They just retired and no
longer serving anymore, right? Or it's like, their shifts are always like crazy, right? Like, either firefighters that are retired, right? They're just retired and no longer serving anymore, right?
Or it's like, their shifts are always like crazy, right?
They do like three on and then they have like four or five off, right?
And then they're like three full days.
So maybe they have the option on one of those days
to go out there and fight fires.
It's one of those jobs where it's like,
you either doing nothing or you're doing the most difficult
thing of all time.
Like, that's the two speeds that they're in.
Either there's nothing going on or oh shit, and it's back breaking labor when there's
fires like this.
A lot of what they have to do is jump in and dig and create space and it's just you're
working and working and working.
So it makes sense that they'd get paid that much to come in and help out.
Well, isn't like 75% of the job like accidents and stuff like that,
isn't that what most like firefighters are having to deal with?
Oh yeah, like EMT stuff.
Yeah, like most of their most of this stuff is rolling up on accidents.
So it makes up 4.3% of the nation's total firefighters,
but it's growing because of a growing trend towards privatization.
So I'm assuming the way it would work is the state has its firefighters and then when
it exceeds their capacity, then they go and fire a private.
And this is interesting because it's the logistics and sort of the politics behind like how
they have to really assess, do we have enough manpower to control, you know, the fire where it's at and how fast it's
coming, you know, for this particular area, or should we just kind of let it go through
this area and now really like get ahead of it and, you know, like start repositioning
and fortify, you know, and just let it burn through this part of the town. And so it's like,
they have to make those tough decisions into then kind of, you know, and just let it burn through this part of the town. And so it's like, they have to make those tough decisions
and to then kind of, you know, maybe you're in a position
where you're in that area where that they're just kind
of mowing through and you want to hire maybe,
if I had a $10 million plus house, I would do it in heartbeat.
Oh, yeah.
Do it for the whole thing.
Yeah, if you, if you have a house that's worth that,
which I'm sure there's a bunch of people listening right now
that think it's like some maledis bullshit
that it's just like, oh, I can't, that's terrible bunch of people listening right now that think it's like some elitist bullshit that it's just like,
oh, I can't, that's terrible.
Those people should be helping with everybody else.
But it's like, if you have a house,
they're paying for it, it's their business.
Well, that's how I feel.
I mean, it's like, if you have the money to do that
and you have a house that that expensive
and like to your point, Justin, maybe the team goes,
hey, it's too late for us to try and save this whole town.
We gotta start planning for the next town.
I would hope that I'm in a position that I can afford to do.
So does just pulled up an article.
This is interesting that, okay, so here's what I think is happening.
I think a lot of these private firefighters are employed by insurance companies.
And they're deployed by insurance companies to save.
So if an insurance company is covering these properties, it could cost them more money
in paying out the damages than it would to pay firefighters. Oh wow, that makes a lot of
sense. So that makes that makes a ton of sense right there. Yeah, right. No, if you're
ensuring a $10 million house, you're like, go spend the tens of thousands of dollars to
save that house. We're going to be caching this. Exactly. It's just that them saving money.
Very interesting.
I didn't realize that's how it worked.
I thought it was more like you call them
because you want your house saved
versus like an insurance company taking care of it
for you.
Interesting.
Justin, I wanted to make a comment,
give your wife a compliment.
Her, she's looking pretty fit and strong.
You hit on my wife.
These, huh?
Well, I did text her the other day and I you look good. Well, I didn't do that
Yeah, but she's you she's looking very
Salami she's looking very yeah, she has my name under salami
Yeah, I know you are long legs. Yeah
Long legs, no that short leg energy
Come on man
Short legs
Like the worst cut.
I was like the last V-Ori commercial, wasn't it?
You got good, you got good turn over though man.
I want to see you run.
Oh yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
All serious this.
She's been working really hard at it.
So, you know, I'm sure she'll appreciate that.
That's what she said.
She said she's following a lot of the programs to the T.
She's running strong right now.
She's running a math strong right now.
And kind of a funny story.
So she was here at the studio when we were like still
evacuated and everything.
And we were just trying to kill time and she was out there
working out and she was doing the part of the program where
basically you know, you have cheat curls.
So like she's able to kind of like add some English to the
lift and whatnot.
And she takes a lot of pride in her form and technique. And like,
I've really helped kind of hone in a lot of these mechanics and things for her. And I guess
Adam like walked by and like kind of looked over and kept walking. And court was like,
oh my God, I hope he knows I can actually do a real curl. You know, I heard you.
He noticed, you know, she was so self conscious about it. That's so great. Could you do the same way, though? You know, she's like, so, but I'm like, I love that were very famous. You noticed, you know, she was so self-conscious about it.
That's so great.
Katrina is the same way, though.
She's like, so, but I love that, too, though.
Like, that's like, to me, one of the most attractive qualities
is to see, like, good form.
Of course.
Yeah, because I don't know if that's a trainer thing or what,
but like, when you see somebody that just has beautiful technique.
I'm sure that was part of my whole, you know, attraction.
Oh, no, no, no.
Well, Jessica's a trainer, so she's always telling me
how my form is off.
Oh, that's good. Your left arm is lag's a trainer, so she's always telling me how my form is off. Oh, that's a tough one.
That's good.
Your left arm is lagging a little bit.
Turn your left foot forward.
Can you, yeah, maybe pull one.
Oh, I know it drive you crazy.
Oh, no.
Ha, ha, ha.
It definitely can, but to her, on her side.
She had to turn the in-your-up, dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is the in-your-not-loud enough one here,
loving cranking up for you.
Yeah, yeah.
Nope, we haven't, she hasn't picked a radio station a long time. Oh, yeah
Now it's always it's always me that picks it, but yeah, she does that
So turn your right foot a little bit maybe you push a little bit left foot. I'm like oh my god
Yeah, and it's like you do that to me like I guess you're right. I gotta take I gotta take your
Yeah, I guess do we watched a man, the new movie adaptation of the...
That's right, they went right to the streaming
so you could get it through Disney Plus, right?
I was so excited to watch it.
You guys haven't seen it, right?
No, I haven't seen it.
I was so excited to watch it
and I was left disappointed.
Really?
Yeah, the kids, I heard otherwise.
Who now, who told you it was good?
Do you have friends that watched it?
Katrina's brother, actually, just,
we're talking about this weekend,
so it was so good that he would watch it
the second time with us.
Really?
Is he reliable?
No, okay.
Not at all.
Not at all.
But either a sal.
I'm glad I was saying.
So, I need to one of these.
Nobody's winning.
I gotta watch it for myself.
I'm like, this doesn't do me any good right here.
I've got Larry on one side telling me
I gotta watch it.
I got Sal saying it sucks.
Well, both of them, I feel like I'm gonna wait this out.
Well, so far the movie adaptations that they've done
are like what, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin,
I think they did Cinderella, if I'm not mistaken.
Lion King, Jungle Bull, they've done fun.
All of them have been great because they've definitely
gone back to the original and haven't changed so much
that it's kind of different.
It gives you the old feels.
Mulan took out some of the characters that kids love
growing up watching, they've added some new characters
in there that they didn't really develop very well.
There's no little dragon guy.
No, Moushius not in there.
Spoiler alert, they completely eliminated Moushius.
My daughter was pissed.
Yeah, like how would they do that?
She was waiting for Moushio to show up to the very end
and then we turn it off and she's like,
mm, she's like, go to the Moushio.
Yeah, it goes up to bed and I'm like, what's the matter?
Honey, she's like, no Moushio, I hated it.
I'm like, all right, so.
But it wasn't, I didn't like it that much.
I really didn't think it was that much.
So I wonder, so I haven't seen the cartoon version yet.
You've never seen the cartoon?
No, I didn't.
Oh, it was great.
Yeah, that's a good cartoon, dude.
Yeah, so I haven't watched the cartoon,
so I'm wondering if I just go straight to the movie,
like maybe I won't care.
Yeah, probably.
Because if that's true.
If that's the reviews, because the Rotten Tomatoes gave it a decent review.
Anything over 60 and Rotten Tomatoes is worthwhile to like pay attention to, right?
But I know viewers didn't view it as high.
I think that's what you were talking about, so.
Yeah, 50-something percent.
Right.
So, and a lot of times that happens when people don't stay true to like the original story.
Because you have expectations.
Yeah, exactly.
That was what ruined it for me.
I had certain expectations like, beauty in the beast, the beast hit that out of the park.
Yeah.
I liked the Lion King.
They did great.
Except for the bad guy.
It wasn't like quite as sinister as true.
That's true.
But that was not only criticism, but I liked it overall.
That's true.
What's your guys favorite Disney movie or cartoon?
Do you guys have favorites?
Yeah.
Sort of a stone.
Oh, that's a good one.
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
That one I think is just because that's the one I watched when I was a kid.
When I was a kid, I watched that one over.
And I watched the Robin Hood, the cartoon one, you know, or he's like the, yeah, he's like
a, that's a great one too.
Fox or whatever. Yeah, I like that one.
There was, there was the Fox in the Hound.
Did you guys ever watch that?
I just watched it the other day.
I love that.
It wasn't that popular.
I like that one.
And of course, Lating the Tramp watched that one a million times.
They have some good, Pinocchio was pretty good.
Although now there's like,
conspiracy theories around Pinocchio.
Yeah, well, yeah, definitely if you go in the ride
at Disneyland,
like it takes you towards like the,
was it pleasure island or whatever,
like that whole thing got real creepy real fast.
I was like, what is this?
Don't remember this part.
There's a conspiracy theory on it.
Yeah, dude, that it's like about like abducting kids
and it's about human trafficking.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, if you take it just in little clips of like what they say,
it like you could make like a little crazy conspiracy.
Like they're kidnapping kids and bringing them to pleasure.
Yeah, it's a pleasure, I like it.
It's like, it's like some way back then, you know,
I feel like we live in like the like most amazing time
for conspiracy theory.
Oh, you kidding me?
Because there's so much content.
Well, there's so much misinformation out there.
And this readily available that it's not hard
to mix enough things to align.
You know, like those videos,
they make all the numbers all line.
So many of you to check on Alex Jones.
Yeah, let's see how he's doing.
Well, he's probably dead now.
Well, I mean, okay.
Too much information.
Conspiracy theories sometimes are true.
Oftentimes, they're not true,
but why do people come up with them in the first place?
To make sense of stuff that is hard to make sense out of. So when things happen that just seem remember September 11th when that happened.
Yeah, it just seems so crazy. It seems so surreal to watch the buildings fall inside their own
So I know where yeah, and then the way that they fell on their own footprint and what happened and how could this be possible?
And that spurred, to this day,
there's conspiracy theories around that.
Just have to go.
What's the statistic on that?
There's statistics on 90 something percent of time.
It's the obvious answer.
Yeah.
I think it's a Occam's razor, right?
Is that what it is?
Yeah, another's a stat on that.
90 something percent of that.
It's a very high percentage that it's the most obvious thing.
Yeah.
And sometimes we're hard to believe stuff happens.
So what do we have?
We have a pandemic that's,
we haven't experienced in our lifetime.
So that alone is gonna spread.
People are at home not doing anything.
Your mental health is probably suffering right now,
especially if you're already on the brink.
We have social media that spreads things.
Did you read that Facebook article I sent over to you?
Oh, yeah. What did you think of that?
I think Facebook, so the article talks about a guy who, well, I actually can't say that, they're non-binary,
so they're, that's what they say in the article. But they left Facebook because they think Facebook is not doing enough to stop the spread
of dangerous political information
or dangerous information.
That incites hate and violence.
Based off of this person's particular person's opinion,
here's a thing, Facebook is any,
first of all, they have a,
whenever you have a lot of power
and they are as a company,
they have the most users of any other company in the world and they have the most information on their
users of any company in the world.
And they're arguably one of the more powerful, if not the most powerful media source, right?
It would be Facebook, extremely powerful, largely credited for Trump's victory in 2016.
I know that the Democrats really pissed off about that and said Facebook didn't do enough to prevent meddling or whatever.
And then the Republicans say that Facebook is liberal leaning and they, they silent.
Here's the thing, they're so powerful, they're going to be blamed for everything.
And because they've already taken the stance that they edit, the stuff that's on their platform,
now no matter what they do, someone's going to be pissed off. Yes. Now, if they had always opened up and been
like, we're not, they're not neutral. So it needs them open. So what I, what I read into
that is that they're feeding into it because it just creates more traffic, right? Yeah.
Because they're easy, they're monetized off. Right. The easy way to solve this would be
like just eliminate all political shit on Facebook. It's like, that's, we're just going
to say this platform is to connect to families and friends,
like it would originally started as.
But that's the most serious stuff.
When it's charged is when everybody's going there
and like arguing.
Right. And what I thought was interesting
about that article too was that,
because until that article,
I've read more recent stuff about Facebook being leaning
liberal and it's more conservatives
that are angry at Facebook.
And that was the complete opposite. he was like somebody who was saying
that the he they promoted things that were more charged and more conservative
leaning and attributing the actual the action winning to trump because it
probably goes to the whole algorithm of feeding you exactly like what you
want to see in your own bias yeah well the top track the top, track, the top pages on Facebook, politically speaking, with the
most traction, you can actually look them up, what the top ones are.
A lot of them are conservative.
They get more views and more shares than other pages, but it's users that are doing the
sharing and are spreading this stuff.
So that feeds into the, oh, you're not, you know, you're biased the one direction.
However, when it comes to blocking pages,
there's evidence to show that they may be blocking more
conservative pages.
Again, here's the problem.
That's where it's interesting.
Yes, and here's the problem.
The problem is, for Facebook, this is where they're screwed.
They are not neutral, and they are powerful.
They're gonna be targeted.
Yeah.
No matter what they do, they're gonna piss someone off,
and they're gonna be blamed for something or someone losing or someone winning or some issue
It's just the way it is the way that they could have done it had they gone back in time
I don't know if this would have been better would have been hey, we don't we don't
We're neutral you post whatever you want if you don't like it you block it. It's up to you
We're just a neutral, you know, it's interesting
It's like as you as you get to you know. It's interesting, it's like, as you get to that size,
it's inevitable, right?
It's like, it's impossible to build something
to that scale and not literally piss off.
And here's the thing, like, you know,
we hear this all the time, right?
Like our marketing team most is,
don't pick up the brick, right?
Don't pick up the brick.
Just cause one loud mouth is bitching about this,
it's not a pure representation of your entire business.
The difference is when Facebook is dealing with billions of people,
a fraction is millions.
It's its own government in a sense.
I mean, and that's why we get into this like political divide
because it's everybody's opinion all smashed in one direction.
Now businesses have to deal with that.
Well, look, when you're at the top
and when you're making the most money or you have the most perceived power. You're a target for everybody look at bezos
Look at Amazon. He is now a target by everybody all of a sudden
He's either evil and I forget the facts forget the hundreds of thousands of jobs. He's creative or or the fact that he or they literally he literally created a company
that has arguably been one of the most positive impacts
on our lives, especially now,
whether you own a small business or what you do good.
You can do good, but we don't want you to do that good.
You can win just a little bit better.
Well, here's a deal, I don't feel bad either
because if you're gonna be at the top,
what do they say about leaders, right? When you're at the top and you're leading yeah everything is your fault
It's all your fault first role of leadership is everything is so you're gonna accept it
You want to be the bat you want to be the dude or the girl? Yeah, yeah, I cash out before that
You know what I'm saying that's right?
I'm out before that I'm saying like I let me go back and fucking be invisible take your money
Yeah speaking of like companies disappear pandering and shit like that Justin fucking madden 2021. I thought this was a fucking joke
I thought this was a joke, but they literally they put Colin Kaepernick in madden 2021 and I believe he's made the cover
But he's not even in the NFL. He's not even good. It wasn't good. I know
He wasn't even when he's not even anybody's roster, like how does that work?
Hey, what are his special moves?
Like, did you see what I posted?
No, I just said.
Left bumper, kneel, right bumper, kneel,
right trigger, kneel, left trigger, kneel,
V pad, kneel.
All he does is kneel.
Every time.
So he's, yeah, he's, I mean,
you guys think it'll make, it'll increase their sales
because now they're getting more attention around it.
You know what?
Here's a deal.
If you're a die hard mat, I was a pig.
I don't know much. I play, I was the kid who bought mad
in every single year for many, many years.
And if you're a die hard man, if you buy it no matter what,
you don't give a shit about all this political bullshit.
Like you're just like whatever.
I'm saying so if you love the game,
you're playing the game no matter what.
But and maybe there is a group of social justice lawyers
that are gonna, would never buy the game,
but they wanna buy it as support.
I think it's totally pan-free.
I think it's brilliant because I think I could just picture from a business perspective.
I do. I think I can imagine two guys going to play a game against each other. One guy
picking Kaepernick, the other guy being like, I'm gonna crush you. You know what I mean?
Just because there's so much rivalry in football. So winning.
So winning. Call him Kaepernick. Well, he won in the Nike thing. He won. Like, look at him.
Like he's gone. So the rumor is, they made his attributes better than Cam Newton,
which that is, I would be fucking pissed if I can't.
Oh, I get what you're saying.
So like, I've never played the game.
So in the game, you have like skills, like his speed,
his accuracy, his like, you know, all these, just like,
and he wasn't that great, wasn't he?
And let me, so by the way, that's a big deal in the NFL.
So like, Madden has become such a phenomenon that,
are you brag about your skills?
Oh, yes.
Like athletes like take that serious,
like they ranked my speed at 97 this year,
what the fuck they think I do that.
Oh, yes they do.
They made him better than Camdew.
Yes.
What?
That's such a crock, bro.
Oh, dude. Like it's already bad enough that you bring someone offended on his behalf. Yes. What? That's such a crock. Like it's already bad enough that you bring someone offended on his
behalf. Yes.
Cam Newton's awesome. Hey, hilarious.
The Catholic has made a lot of he has actually monetized this
pretty. Oh, yes, he has. And you know what? Good for him, whatever.
But I just think it's hilarious. All the companies that are
pandering all this shit. It's getting out of control. Well,
the consumers will decide if it was a good decision or not.
If their sales are good or bad, that'll determine if more companies continue.
Because did Nike sell a lot because of him?
Or did they lose money?
I think they did well, didn't they?
They did both.
It went one way than the other.
It's hard to say, right?
The overall, how did it do?
It's just like the NBA we're seeing right now. Like, you know, the definitely viewership is down.
But, you know, I mean, NBA's making such a hard pivot
that this is, they're calling it the new NBA, right?
And so, you know, maybe this is just a rough time right now.
And maybe guys like me who are like dying to watch basketball
and missing it so bad, are just like, fuck it.
I don't care anymore.
I wanna watch the sport so bad,
because I love the sport.
Deal with the bullshit.
You know what I'm saying?
That's interesting.
Dude, I read a very interesting study.
I thought this would bring up a conversation between us.
So they did this study on, they were trying to find out what kind of thinking patterns are
connected to your, the probability that you'll believe in a higher power.
Okay.
And they found something very interesting.
So here's the summary of the study.
This was a study done at Georgetown University Medical Center.
And the summary says, it's in science news daily, by the way, great website.
Individuals who can unconsciously predict complex patterns, so this is an ability called
implicit pattern learning, are likely to hold stronger
beliefs that there is a god who creates patterns of events in the universe. So they connected
the two things. So here's what they did, right? They did a test.
How do you test that? Well, here's they did a test, right? And so it's called what I call
what I say was implicit pattern learning. So it's an unconscious ability to identify patterns
and they can test for this. And one test that they do is they have people watch a sequence of dots appearing and disappearing
on a computer screen, and then people push a button for each dot, and then the dots move
quickly.
But some participants, the ones with the strongest implicit learning ability, began to subconsciously
learn patterns hidden in the sequence, and even press the correct button for the next
dot before the dot actually appeared. Now Now here's what's crazy about this. The best implicit
learners did not know that the dots formed patterns. So they were even unconscious of the fact
that they were able to do this. So this is a skill you could pick up on. This is, according
to the study, is highly correlated with people who believe in a higher power.
So your subconscious ability to pick up patterns,
maybe you can even call that a gift, I guess,
is also connected to people saying that it's not exist.
I think that's interesting because I've forever
I've said this, like whenever, and it's always,
in fact, I can't remember where we were just where,
we were somewhere, Katrina and I,
and it's normally when we're in nature,
and you just see the beauty, the amazement of like
how it all works, the design and structure of it.
Yeah, and I always catch myself saying,
it's like, man, there's people that don't believe that
there's something far more greater and powerful
than us that laid this out.
Because it's so wild. It, it's a fractal geometry.
It trips me out.
It's just so, it's so perfect.
And everything works together so well
to create this thing that we take for granted
every day that we walk around on.
That I just think it's wild to think
that there's people that just believe
that we collided with the fucking rock
and then it all just happened.
So, I just think that's crazy to me.
Well, it is interesting to me.
It is interesting that there's this subconscious,
brain pattern of identifying patterns.
So this is the subconscious thing that's happening.
You might even be able to stretch and say,
it's an ability, right?
It's an ability that you might not be aware of,
almost like a sense or a feeling,
because that's what subconscious things are, right? Like you just do things and you might not be aware of, almost like a sense or a feeling, because that's what subconscious things are, right?
Like you just do things and you're not really aware of them.
What was the percentage of people that had this ability
versus people that are tested?
You know, I got to look deeper in the study
to see what that is.
But I'm just curious,
because like if that's like an innate ability,
you know, that most people have versus just,
you know, a select amount of people
that can, you know, think in that direction.
Yeah, it said the data suggests that if children are unconsciously picking up on patterns
in the environment, their belief or is more likely to increase as they grow up, even
if they are in a non-religious household.
Likewise, if they are not consciously picking up on patterns around them, their belief
is more likely to decrease as they grow up, even a religious household.
And you know, it's funny about religion or spiritual practices?
There is, there always is an element of faith, right?
There's always an element of just feeling or just, almost like, I hate the word, use this
word, but knowing, right?
So it is interesting that they picked this up and this was a neuroscience study.
Really?
Reassion, huh?
Yeah, isn't it fascinating?
No, it's really fascinating because what I just said is, I have said that so many times
and it's always happened in those moments
where I'm out in nature or in awe of something, right?
I'm just in awe of like what I'm looking at
and trying to be present at the moment.
Like, wow, this is just so wild, how,
or this is also what draws me to like the nature channel.
Like I love watching that
because it's just, it's so fascinating to me on how many of these creatures and species
intertwine and work together.
Speaking to that, so National Geographic, I think you can get it through Disney Plus, but
they have this show on there with this guy who we watch Josh Gates and we watch these
sort of archaeological type shows where they go to these old ruins and ancient ruins and sites and things and
the discoveries they're finding now in
like down in mine cultures
with these like these incredible
cities that they're uncovering because of Lidar. And so they're going through this like really dense jungle
that you literally can't see anything.
And they're finding all these pyramid structures
that are on top of like mountain ridges
that they're finding, oh my God,
this was an entire military compound
that was devoted to, you know, fighting off this other
invading culture over here that we just discovered
like 10 other pyramids over here that never been seen before.
It's insane all this discovery that's happening right now that we're not hearing about. You'd have to go find it for yourself.
This is my favorite kind of stuff to look into because it teaches us about ourselves.
Right.
In what's so much more history out there.
Way more.
And there's theories out there that human you know, that the human civilizations had built things
and done things that are, that were so old that it just, we don't have any evidence of
them because they're so old that they, you know, we're, you know, weathered away or there
was a natural disaster.
And so the stuff that we see, we think, oh, the oldest is the pyramids.
And there's some theories that say, hey, some of the stuff, even in Egypt, whether it be the pyramids or the sphinx,
that was there before the Egyptians.
Do you have you heard about this with the sphinx?
I have, yeah.
Like the water erosion, they're like, yeah, the lambs.
I'm cock, yeah.
He talks about that.
He talks about that.
Yeah, see, that's what Lidar looks like.
So they can see what the structure looks like.
Yeah, it's a really crazy technology.
I mean, it just removes all of the trees and the shrubbery
and whatnot and just gets it down to the elevated land. And you can see structures and everything just
clears day. That's really wild.
Yeah, that's so see there you go. Water, sphinx, water erosion. And they're saying that
the it's a hypothesis or a theory and that the that there wasn't water on earth in that
region for way before the Egyptians were there.
So in other words, the theory is they found the sphinx
and then they built around it
or they found some of these structures.
Well, that was like the center of knowledge,
like from all around the world,
people would go there and then the library of Alexandria
and everything and then that all got decimated.
Well, what I find that's very fascinating about this.
Okay, so obviously we've been on Earth for a long time
as a species, is that sometimes we discredit the wisdom
that has lasted for as long as it's had,
but we shouldn't do that because it literally
has stood the test of time.
So a lot of these ancient spiritual practices and beliefs,
and you see a lot of crossover across the world
from one practice to another
that maybe not even had contact with each other, that's real wisdom.
That's been around for a long, long time.
And then even if you go in the more like what we know of, I've gone to Rome and they
talk about the engineering that was required to build some of the stuff or with the Colosseum
how they fill it with water to have water about.
They didn't have electricity or didn't use electricity.
It was all crazy engineering.
No water channels, it like toilets all figured out.
That's the.
Super wild.
Dude, I figured out, my neck,
sometimes I get kinks in it
and it's just something I've dealt with for a long time.
But I think I finally figured out the cause of it,
like 100% the cause of it.
Is it too high of a pillow?
Yes, I had the same exact either awakening.
Either too high or too low of a pillow.
So when we started working with Pluto pillow, right,
you go on the website, you enter in,
it personalizes a pillow for you.
I did not realize how big of a deal that was
because pillows for me, now I'm realizing,
are either too high or too low.
So if I sleep on my side, I'm in this kind of weird, king position.
And the Pluto pillow, because it's individualized to me, it's always perfect.
So if I use another pillow, I start to notice the neck pain.
Yeah, I kind of did.
I mean, Courtney always makes fun of me because like she, she called me the princess in the
peak because I have so many pillows.
You know, I got one too, I stuck between my legs now
for my hips and all of a sudden, lady.
Yeah, dude, because sometimes I lay on my side
and I'm like, oh, my hips, like bother me.
Short legs, dude.
Yeah, short legs for this.
It's a short leg problem.
Yeah, so I used to have two that I would stack
and it was like, I just realized this is way too high,
and so I ordered one too that was smaller,
and in size, and it was a complete night and day difference.
I didn't wake up with that kink in my neck,
I was facing all the time.
Yeah, dude, it makes a huge difference.
It's a brilliant city company,
do there was, nobody was doing anything like this before?
Well, I thought it was so smart.
What I used to do was I would have my pillow,
which was either down, I like down pillows,
or like something soft like that.
And then I'd have to like, throughout the night,
crumpled up, folded, or, you know,
you're like stuffed corners to like push it up.
To create the perfect height,
but then as you go to sleep throughout the night,
you end up losing, you know, it's shape or whatever,
this thing holds its shape.
Obviously it was individualized for your neck and your shoulders and the whole thing. And you know, it's shape or whatever, this thing holds its shape. Obviously it was individualized for your neck
and your shoulders and the whole thing.
And you know, this is an issue for,
especially for people who build a lot of muscle.
You sleep on your side and you got delts and all that stuff.
You're a normal pillow, probably isn't gonna be appropriate
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All right, a first question is from Brady Thomas. How do you develop the upper chest?
Yeah, heavy barbell incline. Yeah, just you know, it's you know, it's so funny is it growing up
in the 90s and then early 2000s and working out the exercise for a long time,
the exercise that every guy compared himself to other guys with was the bench press.
That was the exercise that you...
You did it, you bench, bro!
You'd never asked the guy how much they did anything else.
It was always how much can you bench.
I was like, you're the way that you showed your strength.
So this is very, very popular exercise.
Everybody did it.
Mondays and gyms was like national bench day,
and you'd see all the benches taken up.
And literally, on the gyms I would manage,
there would have between five to six flat benches,
because they were always taken and used.
And, you know, but body builders,
they used to do a lot of flat bench,
but then later on, you noticed that a lot of them
mainly did incline exercises.
And they said that it would create
a better, more aesthetic looking chest.
I tend to agree with that.
I think, although the bench press
is a phenomenal exercise for developing
overall, you know, chest mass,
I think in terms of aesthetics,
most guys are probably better off
mostly doing incline exercise.
Yeah, I would catch myself just living near the bench section, like Monday's, like that
was like my thing.
I would do incline, then I would do flat bench, and then I would do decline.
They were like all in a row.
And you know, going through, I definitely found the value in incline bench, and I actually
enjoyed that and would feel like it did have an impact
on the growth of my chest overall. I did not have that same feeling about the decline
bench.
Pretty much find that exercise worthless. I don't know what you guys think.
I would go dips over a decline.
Declined in due time.
No, I didn't. So somebody asked me on my questions, actually, a similar question to this saying
that is it true that incline bench press
will do more for your chest development
than any other exercise?
And I said, I can make that argument.
I can make the argument the other way too.
That's all somebody did, right?
You're doing something different
would actually be a huge value.
So if you were a hardcore incline barbell bench presser
and that's what you did mostly
and you never did flat or you never did dips
or you never did flies, then the obvious would be true doing one of those would actually
do give you the most development in your chest.
But I think that why that's true or why your point is true, Sal is because I think that
as once you get introduced into the bench press, it's like the staple move that, you know,
for young boys for sure, like to measure strength, Like, oh, what do you bench, bro?
Well, you know, and when you tell someone,
what do you bench, you go off of the flat bench,
you don't go off the decline,
you don't go off the incline,
what do you flat bench is your number?
Because of that, you spend most of your time
trying to get good at that
and you neglect the incline bench.
And I just think that, you know, the upper chest,
when you develop the upper chest,
the, it looks, uh, it makes your chest look so much more impressive. I mean, for sure, this was a,
a major focus when I first was getting into competing. And, you know, when you've been lifting
for 10 plus years, you know, it's hard to, you know, how good at your programming or whatever,
it's hard to see like really massive changes in your physique.
And that was probably one of the biggest changes I set out and I've talked about on the podcast more than once.
I set this goal out like I'm gonna, I'm gonna incline bench so much that I want to catch my incline bench to my flat bench.
So that was like a big goal of mine. Like how close can I get my numbers? Can I get my ink? Can I ink line almost as much as I flat bench? And the result to that
ended up being the most impressive chest that I'd ever built over the two decades of lifting. And so
I always encourage lifters to do more ink line chest press, especially if you're if you're in
this game for the aesthetics you're trying to sculpt and build a physique,
I think it's one of the best things you can do.
Yeah, I think the flat bench is great,
especially when you're first starting lifting,
but an incline lift, incline lifts,
whether it's the barbell or a dumbbell or dumbbells,
is really important for the aesthetic look.
Women in particular, I think,
because they're, because they have breasts working the upper chest, probably is gonna give them more of aesthetic look, women in particular, I think because they have breasts working the upper chest,
probably is going to give them more of aesthetic appeal than the flat bench.
And then here's the thing, if you want functional ability from your presses, overhead presses
are one of the most functional exercises.
Inclined presses are closer to an overhead press than a bench is.
And then for that kind of functional strength, like you would get from a bench press, I think dips are a really, really good exercise.
They're, it's going to give you that, that's a similar kind of functional strength that
you may need in a sport. And then if you think of the pushing movement in sports, it's
often at an incline. Like if you're in football, you don't, you very rarely push someone away,
standing straight up or leaning back.
It's usually leaning forward,
you're using your hips along with the press,
that mimics more of an incline press.
If you're throwing a punch in, you know,
not that pressing necessarily makes you stronger
at punching, but it does work some of the muscles
that are involved incline probably translates better
than a flat as well.
The other case I'll make for it, besides just developing the chest is that are involved, incline probably translates better than a flat as well. The other case I'll make for it besides just developing the chest is that I liked it
later on, you know, when I started to do it more myself, I realized that it actually
puts you in a more favorable position for mechanics.
It's easier for sure.
Yeah, so the incline, because part of getting good at bench pressing, you need to learn to
be able to retract and depress the shoulders down.
So you can engage more of the chest and you don't roll forward.
And since most people, that's the common thing, right?
So you get a client, you lay them on a flat bench.
One of the hardest things to get them to understand is to not let their shoulders retract forward
and push with their triceps and their shoulders and teaching them to be able to
retract the shoulder blades back while they press
to engage the chest.
That's like one of the hardest things to teach
when you're teaching a client,
especially somebody who's fairly new to lifting.
What I found was when I would take that client over
to an incline because of the angle,
the angle naturally lets the scapula kind of drop back down
and like back into your back pockets, right?
So it naturally pulls the shoulder blades back and down.
So it actually was easier to get clients
into the proper form and mechanics on an in client.
So I then began to teach that first
before I would teach a flat bench
once I piece that together.
Yeah, now here's the thing too.
If you wanna see what kind of chest you'll develop
from focusing more on flat or more because flat
definitely is probably more of an overall mass builder.
You look at the chest of the 70s.
They did favor the bench press as a lot.
Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger.
There's really big chest.
This kind of square look to it.
You could look at power lifters who converted
to body building.
So they built a strong foundation of bench press.
Ronnie Coleman was a power lifter
before he became Mr. Olympia.
And he still did a lot of bench press.
And you look at his chest,
and yeah, he has a little bit more lower than Upper,
but he's got this really big full looking chest
that was hard to compete with.
Whereas always focusing on the upper chest,
maybe you'll have less mass,
but you'll have maybe more of a balanced look.
So they're both exercises are important,
but if your goal is upper chest,
then I would just do all upper chest exercises
when you're doing your presses.
I wouldn't do any flat bench if that's an area that's lagging.
Next question is from J. Heinz 62.
What are the consequences of eating below
the minimum daily requirement of fat?
You know, not good.
Yeah, to be hair, skin, or hormones.
Yeah, fat and protein are essential.
Okay, your body cannot make certain fatty acids that it needs for hormone production,
for nerve development, for brain function, for connective tissue, support
and all that stuff.
Same thing with protein, there's certain amino acids the body cannot make.
In other words, if you don't get the adequate amount or the minimum amount of fat that your
body needs, the consequences can become very, very dire.
Okay, this is not true for carbohydrates.
Those are not essential.
Not saying that you might not suffer from some performance issues or whatever
if you drop your carbs,
but you're not gonna have major health issues
like if you don't eat enough proteins and fats.
You don't see this as much these days,
but especially when fat was demonized,
this was something that I saw with female clients.
It was very common.
Yeah, I would see that they'd have the dry skin, hair loss was one.
Their inability to feel full, they're always hungry.
Mental fatigue was a big one.
If they got tested for their nutrients, you would see that their fat soluble vitamins,
A and D, for example, would be kind of low.
The consequences are really not good if you don't get adequate
fat. You need it, your body absolutely needs it to thrive.
I had several female clients that this was the key that unlocked us breaking plateaus.
For months, I was managing calories on them, trainings going good. I know everything should
be lining up that we should be seeing results, and their body was just staying stuck.
And I remember looking at fat and going like,
oh, you know what, her fat's really low.
I wonder if I boost her fat up a little bit.
And I remember the first couple of times I did that,
and it was just, it was the key that just unlocked
their body to start responding then again.
So, you know, you just gotta remember that,
like everything works together.
So it's like a car engine when something is off,
like the timing belt is off,
the car sounds different, it runs different,
it feels different, our bodies are similar in that way,
where even though this is,
maybe there's not something that's related to fat,
that is directly correlated to your metabolism,
but if things aren't operating smoothly,
it can and will affect those things.
And sometimes it's that simple for some client
that,
oh wow, you were just,
you've been under-consuming on a central macronutrient
for so long that your body's not performing optimally,
it's not running optimally.
And just by me kind of boosting that up a little bit,
all of a sudden the body fat starts coming off,
energy levels, skin feels better, notice hair,
like all these things started to change.
You also could, I'll get clients who feel cold all the time.
I had a couple female clients who had fertility issues.
We bumped their fat and take up and they got pregnant.
In men, I've seen low testosterone.
So I've had male clients who don't eat enough fat
and they come to me with their testosterone readings.
And we just bumped their fat and take
and low and behold their testosterone levels go up.
Sleep is another one.
Not being able to sleep because you don't have enough fatty acids.
It reminds me of what was it like late 80s, early 90s,
the whole low fat.
Everybody was so concerned about eating any fat
and that was like a big push that you were,
because you eat fat, you're gonna get fat.
And I'm just wondering where this question,
you know, is coming from in terms of what type of diet strategy you're gonna get fat. And I'm just wondering where this question is coming from
in terms of what type of diet strategy
they're trying to implement.
If there's other, I know vegans,
obviously there's gonna be a big push to find fats
from vegetables and find fats out there
that they can get that aren't from animal products,
but still you gotta do a lot of hunting
to make sure that you're getting adequate amounts.
So I'm sure that is a bit of a struggle.
Yeah, Omega 3 fatty acids or what vegans typically
need to supplement because it's really hard to get those
from vegetable sources.
You can get sources that convert to that,
but it doesn't do a very good job.
But yeah, not eating enough fat is a bad idea.
It can cause some real problem.
If it's for short period times not a big deal,
but you definitely don't want to go too low.
Next question is from Carlos V. U.S. does running with a plastic bag over your upper body
help burn more calories?
You guys remember the, you remember wrestlers and stuff on this?
Yes, it's super common. For waterway.
Exactly. For waterway.
If you're an attractive, you can put it over your face, too. I can do that.
You know what?
Okay, here's the benefit of running
with plastic bag over your body.
There is one.
Yeah, let's hear it.
You might be able to train your ability
to acclimate to heat.
You know, you might be able to increase your tolerance
for discomfort, calorie burning.
You're gonna burn less calories.
Here's why, you can't perform nearly as hard.
Go try to run as fast and hard as you do,
normally with a plastic bag, and you'll notice that you can't.
So, whatever extra calories you may burn
from the fact that it's harder,
is more than negated from the fact that now you can't perform.
Like you, if you, if you, if you,
if you, if you, if you, if you, you see, if you drop, it heats you up faster.
You, you start sweating.
You feel like you're working more.
It's like that.
That's really, it really would.
Your core temperature rises.
It makes you sweat.
That's it.
It'll benefit as sweat.
It only makes sense to me if you're an athlete
who is cutting water weight.
Because here's, here's a deal with water weight.
The minute you go over and you drink a half gallon of water,
it goes right back.
So if you are cutting to make a weight,
because you got a weigh in,
because you're in a fight class,
and you need to drop two more pounds,
and you've got five hours till then,
this makes sense to me.
I understand what you're doing.
If you're sitting in Sonna's,
wearing trash bags, doing that makes sense to do that.
Everybody else, I think you're a moron.
Dude, I got in a big old thing with the wrestling coach, one of my cousins, wrestling coaches,
because he was a wrestler, he did very well.
And he was spitting.
I saw him spitting outside, spitting in a cup, and then he was looking very good.
I'm like, what are you doing?
He's like, I'm trying to make weight. He's like like oh no, we need to have a conversation. He's a sophomore
So your coach is literally telling you to go sweat and spit and not drink water to make weight
I'm like go fight in the higher weight class and let me have a conversation with this guy
But these are some of the practices that they would do to try to make weight which are dangerous silly
Silly silly if you're a kid don't do this if you're an adult sure you can do whatever you want with your body
But don't do this. If you're an adult, sure, you can do whatever you want with your body, but don't do this to try to make ways.
Oh yeah, and you see the body wraps,
that was big business for a while too,
where people would like, get this moment where they're like,
oh my God, like my waist is a little bit smaller
and then they drink water and everything else the next day.
And boom, it's right back.
Just magic.
Just do this.
Next time there's a UFC fight, watch the weigh-ins,
and then look at the fighters at the weigh-ins,
and then look at the fighters the day of the fight.
Totally different looking people,
because they've sucked everything out of their body.
I would have people in the gyms I'd manage,
and we have signs that say you can't go in the sauna
with a plastic bag or a plastic everybody,
or oils that encourage sweating,
but at least, I don't know, once a month,
I'd have to go in there and kick some guy out
for having a garbage bag over his body
or rubbing wax all over what is it called?
Sweet sweat or whatever?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the sweat.
Yeah, there's really no health benefits whatsoever.
It doesn't burn more calories.
If anything, in my experience,
you're burning less calories
because your performance goes down into the crapper.
Next question is from Ants Dope Life. Can smoking weed impact gains?
Sure.
Ants Dove Life, definitely.
Yeah, definitely can't. I talked to a cannabinoid scientist recently, had a great conversation
with her, and we went down a whole
bunch of different paths with cannabinoids. These are the compounds that are
found in marijuana plants and hemp plants. There are some potential health
benefits that you can get from cannabinoids. If they improve your health then
they'll might help you with your gains but I can't you know I'm trying to think
of all the people I know that smoke weed, how many of them have improved
their health from smoking weed.
I can think of one person out of that,
I don't know, 30, 40 people I know, who smoke weed.
Most people who smoke weed like to get high,
and that kind of use is, yeah,
it's gonna take away from your gains.
Canabinoids, high dose, especially THC,
probably negatively affect your anabolic hormones.
They predictably lower testosterone levels
or anabolic hormone levels, I should say, in animals.
They can do that in humans too, especially at high doses.
It can definitely, if it's used chronically,
it can definitely reduce motivation,
which that's not a great thing for working out.
They can balance out inflammation if used at low doses,
but just two or three hits from a joint
is way higher than low doses.
And at that point, you may be influencing inflammation
in a negative way in terms of gains.
So I don't think it's not something I'd say
go do this to improve your career.
I've heard from long distance runners,
like they do well with Miran.
Under the influence.
Yeah, just during the, yeah.
Yeah, we have our downvents.
Have you ever done a long run?
No, I have, and I don't know, it's awesome.
I love mobility.
Yeah, under the influence.
No, it's awesome.
Because you trail off, dude.
You trail off in your thoughts.
And I mean, it's like, when you know when you hit that, like when you're running, right? It takes about 10, 15 minutes or so. I don't know how to run or say, dude. You trail off in your thoughts. And I mean, it's like, when you hit that,
like when you're running, right?
It takes about 10, 15 minutes or so.
So I hit the runner's eye, yeah.
Yeah, then you hit that runner's eye,
and then if on top of that,
if you got a cannabis eye on top of that,
like you just kind of drift off into your own thoughts.
You know what they, very therapeutic.
And you know what they attribute the runner's eye to?
Natural cannabinoids that your body releases.
Yeah, so it makes sense, right?
Anandamide, I think that one's called 2AG
if I'm not mistaken.
And here's something you can do.
Okay, if you want to utilize cannabinoids
for potential benefits, use hemp oils,
full spectrums, stay away from too much THC,
too much THC's got some negative effects on the brain,
use things like CBD and some of the other cannabinoids
that are non-psychoactive.
What those things tend to do is they tend to increase
your body's own production of its natural cannabinoids.
This is not a bad thing.
So if you're gonna notice any benefits
from using cannabinoids, then you go in that direction,
not buying the weed at the dispensary that's,
you know, 20% THC or smoking
a joint with your buddy, that's probably going to be detrimental.
So that's why for me nowadays, I stick to things like Ned, which is the full hemp oil
extract, full spectrum, and that, I don't notice the negatives.
If I were to have weed from the dispensary, I get that you can have fun with it and all
that stuff, but it's negative is what I know.
Yeah, you have to be real careful.
I mean, this is a conversation I have
with my younger brother a lot, right?
Like, I was lucky that I didn't really even find cannabino.
I mean, I had a bad experience with cannabino twice
in my early 20s and it wasn't even till I was like 30
that I really like smoke weed.
And like, the way I look at it right now,
so I like weed the same way like a desperate housewife
likes wine.
And I look at it the same way that like, weed the same way, like a desperate housewife likes wine. And I look at it the same way,
they're like, you gotta watch it,
you gotta be careful of that.
Like if am I smoking every single night,
am I, is this something to do a cougar?
You might, it might depend on this,
am I having the whole bottle type of deal?
Like, and because there's so much positive messaging around
right now with marijuana and the health benefits
of CBD and yada yada yada at the end of the day, it could turn into an addiction and an
issue like anything else.
So if it's getting in the way of you learning more and growing and spending time on your
business or working better at your craft or being a good husband or being a good father
or being a good son, if it's starting to bleed into those things and you have to be, you only know that you
have to be self aware of that to make that decision.
And most certainly can bleed into getting into way of your gains.
If you know, getting high ends up happening and you don't go to the gym because of that,
like that's, it's an obvious issue.
But if there's ways that you can find it to compliment your life and have balance, I think
there's nothing wrong with it. Just like I, I think there's nothing wrong with it.
Just like I don't think there's anything wrong with someone having the occasional glass
of wine to enjoy that with their dinner.
But very easily you can turn into somebody who has two or three glasses of wine every single
night.
And then at that point, when you start asking yourself, okay, is this more of an addiction
and something that I rely on more than something's actually helping me or complimenting or enhancing
who I am?
Yeah. And when they do studies on cannabis and performance,
it clearly reduces power output and explosive performance.
So for lifting weights, probably not a good idea.
Not the best idea.
I've done it before lifting weights.
Terrible.
It's not a great idea.
It just doesn't, for me, it definitely doesn't improve
performance, but maybe for long.
Makes you more interested in it though.
Maybe.
For long, lower intensity kind of long duration stamina based movements.
Maybe the pain killing effects, the fact that you're in this other state of mind might
help with that kind of stuff, but for lifting weights and for explosive power, definitely not
a good idea.
It doesn't make me stronger for sure.
I can't lift this heavy, you know, but I might be in the gym longer
and I might focus more on squeezing and pumping the muscle
or I might just lose my focus and start looking at articles
for now.
Yeah, or whatever walks by.
Yeah.
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