Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1384: Calisthenics Vs. Weight Training for Building Muscle, How to Equip a Home Gym, the Effect of Stimulants on Muscle Growth & More

Episode Date: September 19, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how calisthenics compare to weight training for building muscle, improving health and general wellness, what equipment to buy for a home gym, how stimulants affect the anabolic process and recovery, and how to train clients who have lost their period. New Product Alert from Organifi! (4:16) The moment you realize that certain foods affect you. (10:28) Mind Pump Recommends Alone on Netflix. (15:12) The COVID prohibition era. (25:00) Adam’s Vegas tales. (29:20) Cool News with Sal. (33:27) Fun Facts with Justin. (37:27) Weird Real Estate Facts with Adam. (39:14) #Quah question #1 – How would you compare calisthenics to weight training for building muscle, improving health, and general wellness? (41:54) #Quah question #2 – You have $5,000 to spend on a home gym, what do you buy? (46:39) #Quah question #3 – How do stimulants affect the anabolic process and recovery? (52:27) #Quah question #4 - How do you go about training and nutrition with clients who have lost their period? (59:42) Related Links/Products Mentioned MAPS Fitness Products Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Alone | Netflix Mind Pump #1360: Carnivore Vs. Vegan With Dr. Will Bulsiewicz & Dr. Paul Saladino Mind Pump #1107: How Going Vegan Can Make You Fat & Sick Secret Gyms And The Economics Of Prohibition NASA chief calls for prioritizing Venus after surprise find hints at alien life The first public test flight of a manned flying car has been completed in Japan — see the SD-03 Do You Own the Air Above Your Home? - Zillow: Real Estate Mind Pump TV - YouTube MAPS Suspension  Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Mind Pump #1125: Dr. Jolene Brighten- What You Need To Know About The Menstrual Cycle Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pumped the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners and viewers just like you. Now the way we open the episode as we open with an introductory portion where we talk about current events or we'll mention our sponsors or we'll bring up studies.

In today's episode, that's about 36 minutes long after that we got into the questions. By the way, if you wanna check out the episode as it's timestamped, in the words you can fast forward to your favorite parts, go to mindpumppodcast.com. All right, so here's what happened in today's episode. We started by talking about the new probiotics supplement from Organify.

Done, did that. It's actually a powder. You put it in your mouth, wash it down with water, taste pretty good. Just instead of tasted like cereal remnants or something. Yeah, like checks. Interesting, yeah. But it's got probiotics and pre-bottles for gut health.

Now, Organifyifies the maker of it and they are one of our sponsors and because you listen to MindPump, you actually get 20% off any of their products. If you're interested, here's what you do. Go to organify.com, that's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com, forward slash MindPump, and then use the code MindPump for 20% off.

Then we talk about the show alone on Netflix. That's really cool. Then we talk about the show alone on Netflix. That's really cool. Then we talked about the COVID prohibition era. Apparently there's a lot of black market gyms opening up and there was an investigative article on it. It's kind of cool. I talked about how NASA speculates that there may be life on Venus.

That's really cool. Justin brings up the new Japanese flying car and then Adam's talking about an interesting statistic or fact about real estate. Apparently you can buy the rights above your house, air rights, that's kind of interesting. Then we got into the questions. Here's the first fitness question.

This person wants to know how calisthenics compared to weights for building muscle and improving wellness. In that portion of the episode, we mentioned our suspension trainer program, which utilizes just your body weight called maps suspension. If you're interested in checking that out, go to mapsassuspension.com. The next question, this person says,

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that makes some of the best home gym equipment you'll find anywhere. One of their hallmark pieces of equipment is a squat rack that folds into the wall. It's very stable, but when you fold it into the wall, it literally comes off the wall, maybe like 12 inches. Now you can park your car on the garage again, but when you fold it out, very stable, very secure,

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So stimulants like caffeine, we talk about. And then the final question, this person wants to know how you go about training and nutrition with people who have lost their period. Now, here, check this out. about training and nutrition with people who have lost their period. Now here, check this out. Mind pump is your favorite podcast, that's true. But we also produce amazing fitness programs. So we have fitness programs for different people, different goals, okay?

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Dude, your voice cannot, it's one octave, that's it. I know, yeah. Higher lower, what's going on here? What's that? What's that? Huh? Wow, wow. That is not the same not the safe that is not the safe that is I think it sounds the same. That's the Scott dude again at him right later. Hey, no, I do it by myself. Okay

Okay, what is that? And then what is this? Oh? That's it. Please stop. That's all stop. I hurt my cheeks. Just Adam, you haven't tried that yet? I haven't. I'm about to because Doug just handed to me and said, just according to him, I can just throw this dry powder in my mouth and then rinse it down.

It's the probiotic, prebiotic supplement from organified. Did this replace their probiotic pill or are they still carrying both? I don't know. Doug, could you look at that up for, no, it does, like God damn it. Leave it to organify though. It had a decent taste. I like it.

I've been using it for the past, I used it this whole week and it feels good. You got the good? So I wonder if it's like, it seems, well I guess it seems about the same. Here, throw me the packet. I wanna look at it. Yeah, we can read the science, right?

It tastes like the leftover crumbs of a cheque cereal. That's what we determined. Yeah, we determined that. It does, it's got, okay. So, like the crumbs of a cheque cereal? Yeah, like at the bottom, you know how like the bottom of the bag everything's gone, but like sometimes,

I'm gonna put that powder dust on. I've never done that. What do you mean you've not done that? This is a liar. You got the empty bag of it's cereal and stuff. Yeah, bro. Like every last little speck of dust. Are we gonna discuss your relationship with food ever

on this podcast? Are we just gonna brush it out of the room? I'm here for regular people. They're super anal about everything. Oh, second. That's my role. Yeah, it's prebiotics and probiotics with 20 billion of the probiotics in there.

So, okay, with... So prebiotics feed the probiotics, that's why they're called pre, right? So it's a compounds that help feed the new bacteria that you're introducing. So tell me. Tell me, So tell me if I'm using things like this correctly, thank you.

I mean, maybe not so much right now. Like, I'm gonna do it just cause of ductile. No, and I want to, I want to taste what, good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, correctly, thank you. I mean, maybe not so much right now. Like, I'm going to do it just because I don't do it. And I want to, I want to taste what good checks mix. Well, so yeah, you bro, yeah, tell me I'm a liar. Here's the best way to use it. Open the packet and then you sprinkle some in your eye. Stupid. See what happens.

I'm not going to do that. No, but serious, no, okay. This is how I use probiotics. I had not a daily probiotic user, and I've never told anybody else to do it this way. But I do find value in it for this. So diet's been pretty dialed, been really good for quite some time now.

But recently on my Q&A somebody, people like, I don't know why, I do know why, because I talk about ice cream, right? And so it's funny, right? How we do this, right? They know that it's a battle for me, so I get questions like, I don't know why, or I do know why, because I talk about ice cream, right? And so it's funny, right? How we do this, right? They know that it's a battle for me. So like, it questions like, oh, what's your favorite ice cream, right?

So, so of course, Shunky Monkey. Right, of course, talking about thrifties ice cream, which is my favorite, and I haven't had in a very long time, I broke down and I worked. So the most jankiest ice cream I've ever had. Stop it, stop.

Blasties? Blast for me. Doug, can you mute him, please? No. Mute his butt, mute his mic, please. No, so I, stop. Blast for me, Doug, can you mute him please? No. Mute his butt, mute his mic please. No, so I, like 50 cents. So I ordered some ice cream. I like to do this test.

There's a game I play with myself all the time. You don't learn Sherbert? No, no. Chocolate multi-crunch and mint chip, right? So that's, and I like to think that after 20 years of fitness, I'm getting beyond this addiction and this issue that I can't not have it in the freezer. So I'm always like challenging myself,

like it can be in there. Real power. So I've been doing really good. I bought it last week. It's a, I mean, we're on, I think, day seven or eight since it's been in my freezer and more than half of it's left in both of them, actually. So you actually bought thrifties ice cream?

I did. Where's thrifties around here? So they're at, not, what's a, right aid? Thank you, Dave. Oh, okay. So they sold to right aid, but, pharmacy ice cream, it sounds so good.

A, so, listen, it's delicious. Listen Linda, so, right aid bought out thrifties, the store, but thrifty kept the brand of ice cream. Probably because it crushes and does so well, because everybody is more like me and less. Maybe it's sprinkled a leftover opiates in there.

Yeah, the mint one's good. I grew up with that. It's bomb, dude. It's bomb. So anyways, I feel like it's the ice cream maybe with the wooden spoon. Listen, can I finish my commercial? Sorry, go ahead.

Can I finish my commercial here? You're dragging it. I feel like that. I can't if I hate you. So they love it. I use the probiotics like this. I know, okay. I know Dan well, when I'm doing

when I have ice cream now, because it just doesn't agree with me, but I know damn well what I'm doing when I have, I have ice cream now because it just doesn't agree with me, but I still like to have it every once in a while. Okay. So before I eat the ice cream, I go and I take two of those probiotic pills. I know it says only take one. I take two. And I like to be about a half hour or so before I have the ice cream. And then I eat the ice cream. When I do this, and I've done this enough times within without it, and I'm totally speaking, it makes a big difference. I can feel, so normally if you don't take the probiotic, you get the cockas.

I do, really bad. Yeah, especially if I do anything more than like a little scoop. Like I've learned that I can do like a little scoop and enjoy, but who can do that, right? I have a bowl of ice cream. So, yeah, that's like just a tip, not gonna happen. do that, right? I have a bowl of ice cream. So, yeah, it's like just the tip, not gonna happen. Right, so I do a bowl of ice cream. So I eat that, and, but before I do the probiotic, when I do that, now,

and let me tell you, it doesn't mean I have zero symptoms. It just dramatically makes it better. So instead of having like diarrhea all my long, or having an upset stomach, or feeling bloated like crazy until the next day, it really mitigates that. This is how I use probiotics. As a way to strengthen your bad relationship with ice cream.

Yeah. Piss off, guys. Yeah, cool. So that's actually, that's actually how I use probiotics. Okay. So I'll take them, I don't take them every single day, unless I'm neither. Unless I'm noticing. Yeah, so I'll take them, I don't take them every single day

unless I'm either, unless I'm noticing gut issues, then I'll take them daily. But I typically have them and I'll use them when I'm gonna eat a food that I know bothers me. So if I'm gonna eat gluten, then I'll take a beforehand. And it does, it makes a difference. Yeah, when I'm traveling especially, because you know that your options are limited,

so that's when I usually take those as well. Yeah, my favorite story though, has to be the time that you as a kid bought just, what did you buy a bunch of cookie dough and just ate it on the way to school? Yeah, yeah. Oh, and I mean, we just came back home from school and we used to walk and we're just like,

we have money that we just earn from random things. And it's like when you're a kid, you just money that we just earn from random things. And it's like, when you're a kid, you just think of whatever sounds awesome at the time. And so, yeah, we bought one of those Pillsbury Doe Boy rolls. Like, it was like a huge thing. We would try and finish the whole thing before you get home. Oh, and it sounds like a stomach ache.

Yeah, I'm surprised. Like, I'm sure there was like ramifications for it. But I remember that part. Now, when you're a kid, when you're a kid, you have an iron gut. What is that? Now, hold on, let's think about this for a you're a kid, you have an iron gut. What is that? Hold on, let's think about this for a second. Is it that you have an iron gut or you're not aware?

You just go take a terrible turn. I think it's a little bit of both. I think you partially have an iron gut and then I think you also partially just completely disconnected it unaware. Yeah, because when I started to become aware, a little bit that my food might be an issue was when I started taking weight gainers

because I'm 15, 14 years old trying to pack on size, and so I buy the weight gainer that had the biggest number. So if there was heavy weight gainer, 200, or 2000, then I'm gonna get the one that says 3000, because that was even better. And I would drink it, and then almost every time, by the way, the way I would drink this thing, I wish you guys were there.

I used to blend it in a big ass blender. My mom had these blenders that she'd make sauce in. And I'd put these huge gallon containers of weight gainer powder, which normally you think has 150 servings because it was literally a bucket. It looked like a bucket. Yeah, I think so. I know we had one of those too. Four scoops.

Yes, and the scoop was, was this big. It's like shovel. Those of you guys watching on YouTube, you can see my hands. It was literally this big. And I scooped for it, and then I add whole milk, and when I hit blend, this is the sound the blender made. Yeah.

Yeah, I never measured, dude. I just was like, how much can I cram in there? Dude, and then I drink. And then I drink eggs in there and peanut butter or everything else. And then I'd hold the blender over the sink, and I'd'd sit there and it was like, it was my second workout. My first workout in the backyard, second workout standing over the sink going, and then, yeah, you just thought it was like part of the train.

And then that stuff was, you know, part of like what you had to do. And I didn't put two and two together because I do that and then I have terrible diarrhea and I'm like, why am I losing weight on this weight, kid? It doesn't make sense and then my mom was like, do you think maybe it's because you're shit in yourself? I think it's a kid, you at least I did. And you just think that that's everybody normal. Like everybody has good poop days and bad poop days

and it is relatively normal, right? I mean, there's not the average American, this is what happens. They just have some days their stool is a mess and loose. And then other days it's solid and it's nice. Or they have none. Or none, right? And they just think that that's normal. So I think even being a kid into exercise

and trying to build muscle and reading all the magazines, they just don't, muscle building and fat loss loss type of conversations don't talk a lot about gut health. Like they didn't come till way later. Oh my God. It didn't happen till recently. Yeah. So, yeah.

So, it wasn't until, you know, not that long ago, did I really start evaluating like the way I, the way I pooped and like how much that was a reflection of how I ate over the last 24 hours. And once you start to pay attention and you start to make, it's pretty obvious. I mean, when I am eating really, really clean, I mean, dialed, I've got great stool. I mean, it's a her Instagram worth. It is nice. Yeah. Right.

So it's, uh, you know, You know, so it's great, right? But then when you go off and I decide to, you know, have a burger and fries or I decide to have pizza or I decide to have ice cream, you know, you pay for it. And I think that how much you abuse those things and how much you consume dictates how bad the aftermath. It is funny though, after you become aware and maybe this is an adult thing as you get older, but there's almost nothing more satisfying.

You know what I mean? You wake up in the morning, and it's a healthy one. Yeah, that went smooth. Yeah, you're like, this is gonna be a good day. Sweet. I'm gonna,

everything's going great so far. From what I, when I was younger, one of the worst things that I did, I think back, I'm like, man, I wasn't even a stoner. I ate this for some reason. I would get pizza all meat, so I'd have

all the meat on it. And then I would, I'd ranch, I'd put ranch all over the pizza, and eat it like that. Oh my God, you know what that would do to me right now, fight that? Oh yeah, I would tear me up. I would explode. You guys would have to deflug cast by yourself. Oh, huge increase in downloads. Yeah, dude, I've been watching. Oh, I'm sending Chris. Yeah, my public exploded. I got rid of that guy who talks too much. Yeah. Dude, I've been watching the series on Netflix called Alone.

Yeah, I've seen this. Yeah, that's better in brotherhood. Yeah, I'm always, I always bring up some shit that's all. All right, I like it. And you guys heard of the Simpsons. It like reiterates what we talk about. What season are you on? What are the only one that's on there?

So Netflix just dropped the first season right is no they did or they pick up or well they all went to the Arctic That's all I know all the Arctic that season one think it's season six I thought it was like a did Netflix go pick it up at six. Yeah, I'm sure I think he's right It's been on regular cable for five plus seasons. Yeah, no, they're, cause they talk about like what they learned from watching other contestants. That's interesting that Netflix, but so I'm really curious about this. Maybe someone can DM and tell me how this works.

Like, so this is becoming like a, we see this with Cobra Kai. Exactly, right? So these, Netflix, they're buying hit shows. Yeah, Netflix goes and I'm assuming acquires these shows after they are on somebody else's platform and in the case of like Cobra Kai and maybe even alone, a lot of people don't know about

it on basic TV, maybe if you weren't into that stuff, you didn't really watch it. Also now it's on Netflix and it explodes. Yeah. So anyway, it's crazy to watch and I didn't realize how long they actually last. So they drop them off in the wilderness with minimal stuff, and then they're out there for like months, doing nothing, living off of whatever. It's crazy.

There was one guy who was like a military expert at survival. The shelter, this guy built from just the trees and shit around him, was like a legit, like I'd live in there. Oh, I know. Did you see that one? Yeah, I saw one of the guys' shelters. That's why we insulated it and stuff. Yeah, there was like a legit, like I'd live in there. Oh, I know. Did you see that one? Yeah. I saw one, the guy's shelter. That's why we insulated and stuff.

Yeah, there was like things at the, it was how the organized looking. The moss and stuff that's covered, like, and yeah, and like insulated the whole thing. And I was like, oh, that's actually pretty comfortable. Dude, and he laughed, spoiler alert, right? He leaves because he couldn't handle the boredom and being away from his kids.

He had plenty of food, plenty of shelter. As I know you're talking about, yeah, he was doing well too. And it's just like, he got to a point where he's like, I'm not enjoying this anymore or whatever, and then he just decided to go. I was like, what? Dude.

And then the animals that they have to eat and stuff, that one guy, this one guy, killed, what was it, a moose. Yeah. And he brings it back and carves it all up. And now, I mean, obviously you got a moose, you're set for a little while. Yeah. Then you gotta worry about wolves and everything else.

Dude, the Wolverines ate the fat. The Wolverine took away the fat, and then he had to kill the Wolverine, which that thing looked disgusting. Yeah, that's a cool, that's actually a cool like a part though, because I don't know where you're at and again spoiler right here,

because I've actually seen that season already. Yes. You have this moose and you think, oh, he's gay or in T's in a win, right? Not if you don't get fat. Right, not if you don't have the fat. And it just shows you that even if you have this really lean protein, like that's not ideal either.

There was a, I don't remember the name of it, but trappers and hunters in North America used to starve from this. And it's something about, the name of it was like rabbit something because yeah because it's from rabbits because it's so lean yeah they were able to catch lots of rabbits so they could catch hairs but they would literally go insane and starve to death because they're too lean they weren't able to get enough fat and I don't remember there's actual name for this type of

starvation where and you can you can imagine going through something like that where you're you're eating but you're starving I think I get so excited about it, because that's like a big deal. Like you finally got some protein, but yeah, it's not gonna satiate your body the way you see it. You know what I think about? It's called protein poisoning. It's colloquially they called it rabbit starvation.

Maldicuribu or fat starvation. Yeah, dude, because fat and protein are sent, by the way, if there's ever a debate, if you ever have a debate within your friends, if you're listening right now about how great veganism is, and okay, no problem, you wanna be vegan, it's fine. But for sure, it would not exist. No, if modern times.

If it were for modern grocery stores. That was a fuck. That was a point I was just gonna make, is I find it really, the thing I find most interesting about the show is just to highlight how humans are opportunists. It'll be bugs, it'll be rabbits, it'll be caribou, it'll be freaking vegetables, berries, they'll eat whatever to survive.

And we probably evolved this way most of human history. Well, I think it's, I like these shows and naked and afraid and things like that. These survival shows just to kind of like regain perspective. I think we've lost a lot of that because of the way that we can now get it so easily. To you appreciate these sources of meat and like you really have to hunt and find like these berries are even edible and won't kill you.

Well, two things came apparent to me on that. One is how far removed we are from our food, because as I'm watching this, I'm watching them, like the guy killed a wolverine with an axe. Like you had to go up and literally hack it to death or they trap animals, part of me's like, oh man, would I be able to do that? Yeah, brutal.

And then I think to myself, I eat meat every day, it's like a processed food to me though, I bought a whole. I get it out of the package. For a few or starving, you bet your ass, you'd be able to do it. It's survival, survival to fitness for sure. I get it out of the package. If you were starving, you bet your ass, you'd be able to talk to it. It's survival, survival, the fittest for sure. That's the other thing that I think at highlights is that we're so picky and oh, it doesn't taste good.

You know what's so funny is that it's because we're so oversaturated. We consume so much on a regular basis that nobody even has the faintest idea of what even close to starvation feels like. People are like, oh my God, I'm so hungry. I haven't even seen this in a long time. It's been four hours today.

It's like, get the fuck out of here. Like, you don't even know. Like, if you, and imagine, that's why I love, like, and we haven't talked about this in a while, like, you know, we used to talk about how great it was to fast for two or three days. It's a great perspective, builder. It is a great perspective.

It's amazing to, how amazing all food tastes when you haven't had anything. When you haven't had anything for two days and you eat some Brussels sprouts, like it's like a little celebration. Oh it is. And you give you that. You see that with them on the show.

Oh yeah, the guy catches a squirrel and then he's cooking up the head and a soup and he's eating it and it's like he's orgasming. He's like, Dude, he shot the arrow went through its ears. Yeah, I don't know how that was. How crazy was that? I was like, oh my God, that was a great shot. Well, it may be likely,

because if you kind of read about our theories on evolution, it may be likely that, because humans are, we are the apex predator. We are the apex predator on Earth. And one of the main driving factors for intelligence probably was to make us amazing hunters to organize together. We've got eyes in the front of our head so we can observe movement and see what we need to do.

We became amazing tool hunters, probably, so we could hunt, and this is what drove our evolution initially, and so, I mean, eating animals is kind of what we do, you know? But the other thing too, watching the show, is they are killing animals and they are eating them, but the respect that they have right right? Yeah, a lot of them like stop and like are so grateful and thankful that they're gonna be able to I mean that's the that's the irony of not killing Your own food is you lose connection to it and all the value

I mean I go to the grocery store or I get my food from the you know in the mail whatever I look at it It's it's beef, you know, it's a piece of meat, and I throw it in the barbecue, and it's not a big deal. I didn't have to kill it, and I have to look into the animal's eyes, and I have to hunt it. You know, I just...

You gotta dress it, prepare it. Nothing. So you completely lose respect and value for the food. And so then we start to treat animals poorly, probably as a result of the fact that we're totally disconnected. Because when you see people raise their own animals for food, they treat them differently.

They really do. In Italy, I have family members that have essentially farms. And the way that they raise the food that they kill to eat is like they raise them incredibly. They make sure that they're healthy and that they're clean and they have good place to sleep. And they feed them really well. Oh, I remember when I first started working the dairy

when I was a kid, my boss would like, so they had all, the cows were all named. They came in, you talked to them by name, you pet them, you had, they had music that was like easy going, that they put, I mean, they literally cared about all that stuff because like, listen, when you do that, you watch how much more milk they produce and how much healthier they stay.

So they pay attention to, They're not stressed out. They do, so they pay attention to all that and they care about that because it's their livelihood. That you're asked if that's how you survive. Now did they play music? I heard that they play music for cows and make them make more milk.

Yeah. Is that true? That's what I just said. No, what's the music they play? Oh, I don't, you know what? I think that, you know, it just yawning. No, I mean, I was playing at the... Zam fear?

That's where my country comes from. I listen to country music, but then what I don't think is anything related to like, oh wow, you know, you get the whole, your dog dies, you get a divorce, and I don't think that's great music for you. Count some sour milk, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Kind of not depressed.

Yeah. I think it's more like just the sound, right? And the melody of it, like hearing music that's like, you know, in a rhythm, right? I think it's more that the just the sound right in the melody of it like hearing hearing music that's like you know in a rhythm Right, I think it's more that than it is actually the words that the song is speaking a milk produces lightning milk yeah Speaking of milk Jessica and I took a breastfeeding course last night. We took this class. We'll talk about all the you know It's crazy. I'm the more I learn about breast milk and the whole process around it, the more fascinated. Yeah.

I get with it. You know, a woman who has milk, right? She's got to be, all she has to do is think about her baby or hear the baby cry or anything like that. And then she gets that let down where the milk wants, just the thought of it. Have you had this happened to Katrina once or twice and have you ever heard a story like this? Like, let's say it's been, Jessica will probably experience this. It's been a couple hours and she's breastfed, so she's filled all up, right?

She's engorged, and you've got a grocery store and a baby cries. Yeah, right. Somebody else's kid. And then all of a sudden she starts lactating. No way. Oh yeah, no, that happens. It's wild, dude. Oh, yeah. Didn't that weird of the body just like since it's... Well, I guess it's like, you know, yeah, no, that happens. It's wild, dude. Oh, you're like, didn't that weird of the body just like since?

Well, I guess it's like, you know, you can think about something, get a bone or kind of similar, right? I guess. Where you get that body reaction. Yeah, kind of. And that's a weird connection. So I have so many mixed feelings right now.

Yeah. My bad. Sorry, guys. Hey, I read a good, really interesting article about the, the title of the article was, let me find it real quick, fitness and the economics or secret gyms and the economics of prohibition. What? So, right now they're calling it the COVID prohibition era because so many businesses are either

forced to close or there's regulations forced on them that make it basically essentially impossible for them to run a profit. And so this reporter is doing this investigation and going around and finding all these gems that are open secretly, just like when alcohol prohibition existed and there were speak-easies, where they go up to the, there's a garage door, it's half open You got to know the right thing to say you go in there. They let you in you pay your fee and you do your work out and this

This journalist is saying that they're all over the place on top of other businesses too like hair stylists and stuff like that Well, I think this confirmed our theory then right? I mean, that's the natural progression or transition for the kind of more private gym with a higher rate. Because you better believe if they're putting themselves out and they're running black market, just like prohibition times, if they're doing that, they're charging a premium rate, or also you're a moron, you're not a very good business operator, if you're not charging a premium for people that are encouraging you to break the law. So I guarantee that those people that they're getting to come in the gym are paying a premium rate to have access

to this underground gym, which once things finally, hopefully lift, this is this to me, and I think you guys agree, is going to be the gym industry. I think it's going to be these very exclusive type of gyms that charge a premium rate. They're gonna have to increase the customer service

and the value they provide for that. And it's gonna look more like what it did 20 plus years ago and a lot more expensive to have a membership. There's a great time for me to correct what I said in the last podcast about equinox. I guess they do have locations still open and like they were shut down during when they needed to be shut down.

But they have made a lot more moves on their mobile front and trying to compete in that arena with like, I guess they own Soul Cycle and so they're kind of putting that version up. But yeah, they're doing the premium model still, but they're still kind of speculating when they're going to go bankrupt. And so they're kind of seeing if that model

is gonna have staying power not and it looks like they're doing okay right now. Well, so here, so here, this is a wonderful time to study the economic effect. So the unintended consequences of prohibition, okay? Because now we have markets that before, not that long ago, right? Like, you know, six months ago or whatever,

we're totally open, which now are partially or fully prohibited by law. So now you can witness some of the unintended consequences. One of them being more people breaking the law than did before. So you're getting a bunch of people who normally wouldn't break the law, now are starting to break the law. So you get a black market that's created. So that's one unintended consequence. Another one is higher prices because lack of competition, because what happens, you get less competition, and then the people who are willing to take the risk now can charge a bit of a premium, right? Because they're willing to be in that gray or black market, they could charge a little more.

Here's the other unintended consequence. That always happens from Pearl Bition. I'm interested to see if this happens, if they continue to push this with even with gyms, you tend to see more corruption and violence because when there's a dispute over payment or billing or something like that, when it's a open legal market, you go through the legal channels, you go to court, you see them. When it's a black market, you're going to take advantage of them because it's all under black market. Well let's say you have somebody that takes advantage.

Someone takes advantage of you and uses your gym or whatever. It doesn't pay, you can't take into court. Can I have the higher muscle? Maybe there's more intimidation. Get roughed up for not making your gym do. You're not going to the gym, dude. You're not paying your drug dealer. Yeah, did you miss your gym bill for two months

or else will we knock on your door? Dude. Good gas Italian guy. Fuck you. Hey, I've roided out guys. I'm doing deadlifts. Come here. Sit down and we have a talk with you.

Yeah, you're gonna do a thousand reps of deadlifts. Now we're paying us back. I ever tell you what happened to it. So we were invag- Nevermind this story, random story, right? So we were in Vegas. God, I gotta, random story, right? So we were in Vegas, God, I gotta be, I wanna say 23 to 25-ish. I was gonna make a good story.

Yeah, right, the stupid days. Okay, so I'm there, we're at the hard rock and I forget what the name of the night club is inside there, but we had two VIP tables, there was like 20 of us guys that were out there. And- All wearing a hardy shirt. Totally. That's that's about the right time. I'm sure we were.

Fruity shale. Yeah. Or I was maybe I was on my Tommy Bahama linen kicker. Oh, that's the limit. Yeah, dude, I don't know what I was thinking. You have a linen shirt. That's on. I would do like him. I would do like a three year kick where I was rocking Tommy Bahama. I don't know what it was.

I think it was because it's like it was like an old man thing. You had to have money. I like to be different than everybody by age. And so I was like, way ahead. I don't want to do it. Yeah, yeah. Just a little magnum back. No, I was rocking solids.

Okay, it was a solid shirt, but it was still the baggy linens. Right. Anyways, that's beside the point. So we get two VIP tables, which that and itself in Vegas, anybody that's got a table knows it's expensive, right? I mean, you're looking at a minimum,

probably about $1,000 each table, which, so where are they at, right? It's early in the night and 20 guys, it's a back sort of party. And I forget what guy opened the table originally, and then the way it works, he opened it up, and then at the end of the night, they'll keep serving you drinks and bringing you more bottles as long as

you keep asking for it. We all agreed. Everybody in that group of 20, everybody makes pretty good money. So we just, let's work it and go hard and then at the end of the night we'll divvy it up. Well, a bunch of young guys drinking alcohol and stuff like that. Each guy gets obviously distracted by the opposite sex and then leaves, starting from 9 pm all the way to about two.

Well, at two o'clock in the morning, I've been long gone. I think I took off around 11 or so. And I'm back at our hotel room. I get the phones ringing at like, I don't know, 233 in the morning. And I, and I had the group of guys that I'm with. There's only a couple, I know really well. I don't know everybody that well.

And I roll over and I grab the phone and like, it kind of sit up and I look and there's only a couple I know really well. I don't know everybody that well. And I roll over and I grab the phone and like it kind of sit up and I look and there's like, there's dudes passed out, face down on the floor, there's multiple people in the beds. We have a dual suite over there and there's a lot of drunk people that are completely passed out. And I pick it up and it's one of our buddies and he's like, you've got to come down here, you're going to come get me. They're telling me to pay the bill and I don't have this,

I don't have this much money. It's like $5,000 for the bill. And to come down here. You're gonna come get me they're telling me to pay the bill And I don't have this I don't have this much money. It's like five thousand something dollars for the bill and I come down break my legs. Yeah, I come down there with I grab wake up one of the other guys And I'm like hey, we gotta go pick up our buddy I was like they've they've got it. They're holding him down at hard rock and we show up This is like now. It's like I don't think it's like four in the morning by this time and Club nightclubs completely closed everybody's completely empty and we're like, we come in, we're like, hey, we're looking for our buddy, this or that, and we go in the back alley.

And he's sitting on the curb and there's three like fucking muscle dudes standing over him like waiting for us to come and like rescue him and pay the bill. Like I have no idea what would have happened to him. I had to be honest. I was born on that surround. Right, that's why I brought this story up.

It's borderline.line reminded me of that. It's not quite completely black market, but that's how they were gonna get their money. They were not gonna call the cops. I didn't see him like that. Well, back in the day, apparently, in the 60s, I think 60s, 70s, maybe even 80s, of the mob oftentimes ran their security and stuff.

And so if people were cheating, they'd take them in the back. Isn't that still, isn't that still happen? I don't know I think a lot less you know got more corporate, but yeah, definitely was a lot more gangster Yeah, yeah, I still feel like the big money the big money that own the companies like our own the casinos or own that I think there's still a lot of that going involved. Yeah, yeah, I think it's evolved too I don't think it's all gangster, but I mean that just highlights it ain't it ain't all corporate

That's for damn sure cuz that wouldn't be like a they're in their money. That's not the HR process You know what I'm saying? That's not like hey if someone doesn't pay their bill we do this then we do that It's like oh, I know how to get our money if we don't pay our bill Take this anywhere. Yeah, take this one of this 20 guys out in the back and then we'll go let them call his friends Then we'll get them all back here so organs put your head in the spice and we'll see what happens. Dude, more cool news. NASA made an announcement that they are speculating that Venus may have some life. Wait, what? Yeah.

How? Okay. So is this one of the moons that goes around? Is there any moons that go around? No, no, okay, so I'm gonna look it up. So, let me know. So they found, how far is Venus for us? So, you have to tell me here, so.

How far is Venus? Yeah, yeah, like, it's like a couple hours. What kind of drive is it? Good drive is it for us. I mean, I know that some moons really far. I got Mars is crazy far. How far is Venus? Venus is further than the moon.

I think it's closer to the sun if I'm not mistaken. Maybe Doug can, in relation to Mars, how far is it? I don't know, dude. I don't know. 91 million miles from here, though. Okay, so the things that I've read, it would take, is it 18 months, I believe, to get out to Mars?

Something like that? I don't think, yeah, I don't know, a long time. I expect you to know these nerd questions. No, Jesus, he's got me coming out of the heart. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to build nine. I'm trying to figure this out how far Venus is. I have no idea, but maybe if it's closer than Mars, why aren't we going there first?

Because I don't think you can land on there. I think it's a hot ass. I guess. It's a hot ass, so 91 million miles away. Okay, it's Venus, which is pretty far. So let's see where Mars is. Mars, 41 million. Oh, so it's twice as far.

Yeah, it's twice as far. So you're turning like years even get there. Yes, but we've sent probes. I think we've sent probes. Haven't we sent probes out there? Anyway, here's a, it's gotta be probes or the, what, like a Hubble was able to see things.

So here's what they did. They found the presence of airborne phosphine, which is something that you tend to see that bacteria produce. It's on Earth. That's your first. So phosphine comes from bacteria on Earth, and the fact that we've detected it in their atmosphere, they are now saying that there may be bacteria on Mars, which is, I don't know if that's a good idea to go touch or check out.

Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. You think coronavirus is bad. I feel like we have to handle Mars first. I mean, it's half the distance and that's already really long. Oh, look, that shows you how long we get there, Doug. Yeah, but, that was the, which one was that? That was the Mariner 2.

That was a long time ago, wasn't it? And it took 162. 1962. 1962. Now, we used to do some cool stuff in space. Oh, it's not as long as I thought it was. It took three months for that probe to get there. Well, this is interesting, as I thought, NASA was sort of taking a back seat to all these private companies now, like sending everybody up into space, but they're still researching quite a bit on. Well, the motivation, the real hard motivation back in the day

for NASA was the arms race. It was the space race, right? You had the Soviets and you had the US. And we were the two superpowers of the world. And we were always competing. And one way you can flex to another super power with your rocket technology is literally by flying to the moon and going out in space.

So that became, and it was also a sense of national pride. So that's why we did so much stuff back in those days. After that happened, that stopped. We kind of, you know, nobody really is interested in landing anywhere except for these private companies, which that'll be interesting. And then you see Space Force kind of get created. And really, what's the main fear for that is other countries that have all their satellites everywhere

and like what the potential is for like weaponry and whatnot. Well, you know there's a big treaty between the made powers of the world that say you cannot build a base on the moon. Yeah, on the moon. Yeah, just think about that. That would be a crazy military advance advantage. Yeah, you have a rocket base on the moon.

Yeah, the true death star. Yeah, Star Wars hit it on the head again, Justin. I know. I'm telling you, like, there's so much in there, you guys. Yeah, it looks, looks, son. It's a full moon. What's that coming down over? Dude, so you guys know that flying cars are now almost a thing.

What do you mean almost a thing? Well, so it's in trial phase, but I've actually seen videos now in Japan. They have a legit flying car that looks, it looks kind of like a drone, basically, with the technology, but it's a single-se, and they set up like all these nets around, so it had to like go through this obstacle course so it could like levitate, and then it kind of goes through

each one of these gates, and it had to pass all these sort of standards for it, but it just makes it look like that is actually possible now. Like it looks like something that could be a thing. I mean, I saw a prototype. I thought it was Uber who I had like a prototype of what that would look like. And it's exactly what it looked like.

It looked like it had, it was like a, you know, four propeller drone. No, I think theirs was like a two or a four-seater. But I don't see why it's that far off. I mean, look at the drones. Have you guys seen some of these bad ass drones? Yeah. I mean, you have drones now that go up and almost fly themselves. They drones? Yeah. I mean, you have drones now that go up

and almost fly themselves. They're dummy proof. I mean, you literally can lock them into something and then they use GPS and coordinations to fly. I think it's just the infrastructure of like, how do you create all these new flight paths and like, you know, what all the standards are gonna be and cause you imagine just everybody all of a sudden

now having access to that and then crashing your house. Well, Elon too. So Elon Musk did this whole thing on that where he talked about flying cars and he said it's unlikely because of the noise. Right. That's what I was, that's what I was fact, but it didn't make a lot of noise. This one didn't make a lot of noise. No, it was pretty quiet. Because of how low they would have to fly is that one.

Yeah, just imagine a bunch of flying cars. Okay, you got cars driving in front of us. Imagine flying drone type cars all around us. Yeah, it would have to be much. You know what, I was, you know, here's a random fact, I was reading a real estate law last night and what, did you guys know that when you buy a property, you also own the air above it

and that you can actually sell that? What? Wait, how do you sell the air above it? So you can sell that, like so for example. So you can sell us a floor. I'll give you an example, no, no, no, I'll give you an extreme example of that. What? How do you sell the air above that? So you can sell that. For example, you can sell us a floor. I'll give you an example. No, no, no, I'll give you an extreme example of that. So somebody rich billionaire buys a high rise penthouse suite.

He's got the beautiful view in front of him of the city. He's got the optimal view. Below him is one story, stores, right? Like to say, 15 stores, right? All those people that have those stores actually have the rights to the air above them. Now, if they want to, they can sell those rights. Let's say this billionaire comes down and says, listen, goes to these seven owners and says, I want to buy the air rights above your building. That will now allow him to hold those rights so no one can ever build up. But if somebody else were, let's say they demolish that and they were to sell that to somebody

who wants to build a building to go straight up. They'd have to buy not only the footprint but the air rights. I don't even know that was a thing. What about down? You know, like down to this. So you can also sell that, right? So you're, you have, you have, you forget what it's called. There's an acronym for it, but it's like mineral, oil, gas, or something like rights that you have. So you have, when you buy your land in property, you have the rights down and up, plus the actual property itself. And you can actually sell each of those individually.

So if somebody wants to like mine your property, but you own the house still, the building, the air, and that you can sell that. Same way you would have if you had water on there or something like that, you could actually, that's super fascinating. It reminds me, and I don't know if Doug, you might want to look this up,

but like there was, it was Coca-Cola or it was like a big major company like that that was trying to basically like create like a laser advertisement. So they would like project it up into the airspace, so you would see that in the sky, and they would advertise you in the sky. And I think they blocked that from happening, obviously. Yeah, I...

Because I cannot imagine walking around. Yeah, how distracting and annoying with that. You're just looking at the sky and there's all these ads. Yeah, and there's a floating above you. Oh, be horrible. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods

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calisthenics as well as weights or bands or machines. It's a style of training in which you're using resistance with the sole goal of building strength and building muscle. Okay, so when we compare calisthenics the weight training, they do look different. However, you can manipulate your body with calisthenics to create some pretty high tension, heavy style exercises, especially when you use a tool like a suspension trainer.

When you have a suspension trainer, you now have a whole bunch of different exercises that open up to you and all of them are muscle building. Now some of the best muscle building exercises are ones with barbells, but there's also some body weight muscle building exercises that are up there with some of the best ones. I mean, a pull up, for example,

is a body weight exercise and that could be considered calisthenics and that's extremely valuable. A dip. A dip. A dip is another, a handstand push-up for example is another phenomenologist. It's a tough one. It's all resistance training and if you're, unless you're a specific type of athlete or

your goals are very, very, very specific like you're a bodybuilder, you compete in body building or you're a power lifter or you're're a kettlebell expert, or whatever, your best bet is to use a mix of different forms of resistance training. And that will do, is that'll develop a very balanced, aesthetic looking physique for most people. So I love bodyweight exercises in combination with weights and suspension trainers are your best bet with that.

I think, yeah, if you think suspension trainers and then trying to find moral ways to progress through that, if you look at, there was a big trend for this for a while with those bar athletes and the calisthenic kings and people like that that were really kind of showing a whole new wave of intensity with that they were adding to these bodyweight type exercises and using the bar

for all kinds of different moves and things. So it's, there is a valid way to really progress just by using your own bodyweight. However, I think a lot of people are more familiar with, you know, weights and how to program that. This is kind of another thing that's a little bit more niche and unique. I mean, if you're a coach, if you're a good coach, this belongs in every routine. Whether you intermittently have bodyweight exercises built into their weight training routine,

or you actually have phases where you go through, where you make your client spend two, three, four weeks of just doing body weight exercises. No matter how you drum it up, it belongs as a good coach, it belongs somewhere in almost everybody's routine. Unless you have a very specific goal like South said. And by specific, it's like sports specific because even if you have a specific goal, like I want to lose 30 pounds or I want to build 10 pounds of muscle, those belong in there, just for overall health and longevity. So if you're a coach, this has got to be something you, you intermittently put into the routine or make sure you always keep somewhat these bodyweight exercises.

If you're a consumer or a listener and you build your own routine, it's important that you do these. So it's important that you incorporate them. There's too much benefit in training bodyweight type of training calisthenics to not do them at all. What's whoever, even if you think that your main goal is to build muscle and that's not the fastest way potentially to build muscle, if it's something you never do, it absolutely is. It's just the novelty that we talk about, the importance of that for the body to adapt and keep changing. If you're always using the same machines, you're always doing the same exercises and training in the same modality, and you never utilize some of these tools like this, like a suspension

trainer or doing a calisthenic type of phase, you're really missing out on a lot of benefits. Oh yeah, I mean, if you work out primarily with weights and let's say you signed up for map suspension. Now map suspension is all suspension training. You can expect to gain some muscle. You should expect to gain a little bit of muscle, mobility, and different type of strength because it's a different type of resistance training. When you look at that whole umbrella again of resistance training, each one has its strength and its weaknesses, but I think the point

that we're making that's really important is, don't limit yourself to one, utilize all of them, and again, you'll develop a very balanced, aesthetic functional physique from doing that. Next question is from Chris Frouz. You have $5,000 to spend on a home gym. What do you buy? $5,000, you could get a lot.

Sick, sit up. Yes. Amazing setup for these days. Yeah, I would start with number one, I would start with a rack. And now, you know, barbells and dumbbells are important to, of course, we're gonna get there. But a good rack allows you to really do a lot of stuff

with your free weights, because here's the thing with free weights. You have an almost infinite supply of exercises that you can do with free weights. That's one of the things I love about them. I'm not just getting a rack though, I'm getting a PRX rack because I want something that actually folds away and that doesn't kill the space

that I may potentially be using for my car or for an office. And also a stable, because I've worked out with a lot of racks that are made for home gyms, because there's commercial racks, those are the ones you go in the big gyms and use, typically very stable.

The home gym ones, I've used a few of them that are a little rickety, and that's okay for the first few months or a year, but if you plan on using this for years, you want something stable, especially if you're racking a barbell on there with weight. The PRX racks are very, very stable, and they don't use up much space at all.

In fact, if you went on PRX for under $5,000, you'd be able to get a rack, barbell, dumbbells, lates, bench. No, so here's, so you would literally be able to get, so hopefully if this is a listener, I don't know if you follow us on Instagram or not, but you know, I definitely know I have. I think you guys have two posted several pictures of our, our trucky PRX setup, right? That was more expensive than 5,000, but the most expensive part of it is the dumbbells.

Yes. If you wanted to save money and I was on a budget, I would get everything that we have. And then it just benches and then I could adjustable a budget, I would get everything that we have, and then a just- And then I could adjustable. Yeah, exactly. We have multiple benches, we built a- We bought all the dumbbells. Yeah, we bought tons of dumbbells. We have enough to be able to deadlifting 700 pounds. Like we have more than you need,

and get away with one barbell too. Yeah, exactly. So we over-killed that, and still wasn't that much over $5,000. If you were to do an adjustable dumbbells, you could literally get almost everything else that we have for that setup, for that product. Oh yeah, the folding rack is gonna be doing it

between a thousand or 14-hour bucks, I think, when I looked on their site, and that's without our discount. So you got that, one barbell, some plates, adjustable dumbbells, your bench, and then if you wanna go real crazy, you can add a pulley adjustment, which, or attachment, I should say. And then you're pretty much set.

I've been, so here's the thing, I've been working out for a long time. For the last, I don't know, 15 plus years that I've been working out, 90% of my workouts are what I just said. A rack, barbell, dumbbells, adjustable bench, and a cable attachment, which is very basic. It's like, I barely ever use it.

That's it. That's all I've used. And I trust, man, I am at no loss for exercise variety. I can do different exercises all the time. Well, especially if it's in your home, you wanna have things look a certain way and be organized. And so it's just nice that they have wall attachments for all these things like rubber bands or even if you have a kettlebell, there's a way to kind of display those in a way where

you can walk in, everything's organized, it's not in your way. So it's come a long way, man. Because before that, you would just have everything resting on the ground at your house. There'd be a bench, maybe outside that you would use, it's like you would just have everything resting on the ground at your house. Like there'd be a bench maybe like outside that you would use. It's all rusty. It's, you know, so as far as like the options go, there's really a way that you can look at, you know, kind of picking your essentials and then organizing it and having, you know, a place for everything, which I, I have found like, it's just been a game changer for me.

Well, that's the biggest difference today is that exactly that. Like back, you know, just 10, 15 years ago, if you wanted an at home gym spot, you had to have the room, the extra room. You either had to have an extra room in your house or you now no longer can park your garage in that space because you've got all this equipment in it. The beauty of the PRX stuff is,

I mean, you can still pull mine in your truck in that garage. I mean, that's crazy. Now, how much of it off, I mean, you're literally talking about and your truck in that garage. I mean, that's crazy. Those things. How much of it off, I mean, you're literally talking about. No, not even that, dude. You're talking less than a foot off the wall. It's like six inches off the wall. And so those trucks, or both Justin and my truck

are really long, because they have the extra cab, they're on this. And they super long. And you have to have a decent sized garage to even fit them in. And I think we're only a few inches from the front and the back and we could still pull the truck in with that rack and everything in there

because it totally folds up against the wall and all the weights go up against the wall. Yeah, you know, that earlier when I brought up that article about the prohibition, Jim's it also talked about the explosion of at home, Jim equipment, it's still climbing. Yeah, it's still climbing. It's still climbing. And in my prediction, I think once people really experience

what it's like to be consistent at home, a lot of people are not gonna wanna go back to the gym. And there's some, there's real cool videos out there too for some do-it-yourself things added items like I, you know, was able to kind of research that and figure out how to make a platform. And so if that's part of your programming, you know, and you can do that, there's ways to make that on the cheap,

as well to accentuate, you know, the racks and everything else. You made that for under 300 bucks, right? I mean, exactly. If you were to buy that rack. And that's a legit platform. That's a really nice horse mats and, you know, plywood. I don't, so here's the, so I love that platform. But in my garage, I don't even have a platform.

All I put down were the horse mats. Yeah so this is just fine and I have the bumper plates So if I drop the barbell, you know my my garage is concrete plus the horse mats to prevent chipping or whatever Not a problem, but yeah the the platform we made is but it's amazing. It's really nice and with under 300 bucks Yeah, no if you have a budget like 5,000 you can build a very nice You'll have a you'll have an amazing home gym. Yeah, no, if you have a budget like 5,000, you can build a very nice. You'll have a you'll have an amazing home. Yeah. Next question is from Matt Amo. How do stimulants affect the anabolic process in recovery? Oh, what a great question because this is one of the answers that irritates people because it depends. If so stimulants, what do they do the body? Right? They

stimulate the central nervous system. Classic stimulant would be caffeine. You take caffeine, it produces an increase in catacolamine production, it makes you feel more alert, more energized, in a healthy state. If you're healthy, it's not going to negatively affect hormones like testosterone might actually improve insulin Sensitivity in some people it could fuel good workouts reduce your increase your pain tolerance so your workouts can be a little bit harder Might have some brain Health properties and so in that case if you're healthy nothing wrong with stimulants the problem becomes Or or happens when your health is in the raw, it's the wrong kind of health to throw stimulants at. If you are not getting good sleep, if you have

a lot of stress, if your testosterone level is low as a result of all this or you're a woman and your period is off because of this or your progesterone estrogen feels off, your libido feels off, you're just in a bad state of health, stimulants just increase the stress that you place on your body. It could cause cortisol to come up even higher, although temporarily you probably feel good from that extra cortisol.

It is not a good thing to throw on that fire. It's like gasoline on the fire. And when I work with clients who are in the state of being, one of the first things I do is I wean them off of stimulants because the stimulants are making everything worse. So it really does depend. It's a problem for a lot of people. I mean, myself included in terms of like what that provides.

I know how I feel after I'll have a stimulant or have some coffee. And what I've noticed is obviously the trends within our industries to really cater to that into going into the workout. So it becomes ritualized where I have to have my pre workout. I have to have this and then it's not working as much. So I have to add more and I keep adding more and more.

And then you start having a real negative results from that. And so you can really put yourself in a position where it's like, I'm so reliant on this to produce these workouts for me, but now I'm just adding more stress and more things that are really like taking me in a downward progression. I really don't think this was a big deal just 20 years ago. We now, we live in the Starbucks generation and the pre-workout generation.

Like, you know, 20 plus years ago, I mean, it was coffee every now and then and then there was probably a very small percentage of those people that even were probably drinking and that regular verbases and I would probably argue that it wasn't a lot of the fitness people that were. There was also the perception that coffee wasn't healthy.

Which kind of prevented people from over there. There's combo. Exactly. So it really wasn't in the health and fitness space like it is. And like anything else in the health and fitness space, we take something that has a little bit of benefit and good and we abuse the shit out of it until we find out like the unintended consequences.

And I think this is becoming more and more of a conversation than I've had to have in just the last five years than I had to have in the previous 15 years. And I don't think it would have been that big of a conversation than I've had to have in just the last five years, than I had to have in the previous 15 years. And I don't think it would have been that big of a deal, except for it's just become so accepted now. It's become so accepted to start your day off with your pot of coffee at home, then you get to work and you get your Starbucks,

and then you go to your pre-workout if you didn't already guzzle down a rock star before, and then you have a pre-workout before you know it, you're having 1,000 milligrams of caffeine every single day and you've worked your way slowly up to that and you don't even realize how stimulated you are, how much it's affecting your sleep, how much it's affecting your recovery. But yeah, no, it can and to your original point. So it does depend.

It does depend on who I'm talking. Somebody who uses stimulants judiciously and intermittently, probably not a big deal. I try not to, I mean, I can't tell you, it's probably been, I wanna say a month, maybe or so, since the last time I grabbed a pre-workout before, but I have coffee on a very regular basis almost every day in the morning,

but I'm aware of that, right? That I wanna intermittently use something that strong, so I get the effects from it, and then I don't get the adverse effects from having too much of it. What's the scientific term for adrenal fatigue that they have? HPA axis dysfunction. Yeah, that's what the hypothalamus, the pituitary, and the adrenals are just not communicating well. And if your hormones are off, stimulants are not a good idea. Both in men and in women. It can cause more problems, not directly necessarily. So it's not like the caffeine or the stimulant itself is causing

a lowering of testosterone or issues with estrogen or progesterone necessarily, although in women there may be some estrogen issues, but that's disputable. It's really through the indirect effect of increasing the stress in the body. So you're already stressed, then you add stimulant on top of that, it's lifting it up even higher. So now the stress levels even higher through chemicals. And then because of that, now things start to feel bad.

Now here's a shitty part. If you're in this state of being, backing out of it can suck. Because then you go through the hole like, oh my gosh, I feel like garbage. It's wrong. Yeah, because your body's adapted to having so much to do.

So here's a recommendation. Cut your stimulant use, if you need to reduce it, or need to go off for a second. Cut your stimulant use down by a quarter, and then once that feels okay, cut it down by another quarter and until you're down to zero. Going cold turkey can be really,

I know people who do it, but it can be real nasty. I feel like it's on drinking water too. That's a big priority for me. And honestly, if you're somebody who's wondering, like how do I know if I'm somebody who's being affected by this, I think it's just a good practice for anybody

to wing on and off all the time. Yeah. I just think that anything that you are doing in your life, that you find yourself doing every single day, even if it's just two coffees, right? Like just two coffees a day or maybe you don't even do coffee, you just do pre workouts every time before you work out. I mean, I think there's a healthy relationship with the ability to be able to just say, I'm not going to use that for two weeks or three weeks

So Forget just the what it may be doing for muscle building. I think they're the psychological ability to do that. I think it's important. Yeah, if you feel like you need it like I have to have right then you then you might want to visit that You're that's your sign right there if I if I give you it's just it's like what I used to it's like the conversation I used to have with clients that would refuse to drink wine and And I'd be like, listen, I'm not saying. I'm not saying, I'm not saying, yeah, refuse to eliminate wine in their diet. Like, oh, I'm not giving up my wine.

It's just like, well, you might want to look into that a little bit. You know what I'm saying? If you think that you have to have your wine every single, and I'm not saying that you can't have things like that and enjoy it, I'm totally for somebody. I had a glass of wine last weekend. I'm not against having a glass of wine, but if you've become so dependent on any substance every single day, you've got to start questioning

that about you, and nobody can do that better than yourself. And so you need to evaluate that and ask yourself, if you claim that you need a pre-workout every single time you work out, there's probably a little bit of a problem there. Next question is from Catherine B. Fitt. How do you go about training and nutrition with clients who have lost their period? Oh yeah, this is a good one. So there's a few things. First off, you want to make sure there's no like big medical issues as to why this is happening.

But usually this is what ends up being. Usually it's somebody whose stress levels are too high or they're not handling them well. Their sleep isn't good. They're not eating an adequate amount of calories and or essential macronutrients like fats, protein, sometimes carbohydrates, sometimes going on a strict keto diet for too long

can cause this. They may also be overtraining and under fat. They may have two, they may be too lean. Essentially, you want to understand one thing is that your body, if it feels like it's an unsafe state, unhealthy state, or not a good context to be fertile, it'll prevent that from happening. And so it can be any of the things I talked about,

or all of the things. Like a nutrient stress all that stuff. All that stuff. So, typically what I would do with a client in this case, and usually I would work with a doctor by the way, it wasn't like they come to me specifically to fix this, but this would be one of the things that they would list is one of their issues, or I would ask them about this. What I would do is I would reverse diet them so I'd slowly increase their calories

and have them focus on building strength. We would make sure that their proteins and fats and carbohydrates were balanced. I wouldn't have them cut anything too low. We'd look at their sleep and then we would observe. And usually after a period of a few months, I'd say probably 70% of the time, if not maybe a little more, we would start to see things start to regulate. It's funny, I actually have a couple clients who hired me and I can think off the top of my head, their goal was to improve their health and fitness and as a result of it, we got pregnant.

They didn't realize that. I mean, that wasn't a goal that they hired me for, but they were like, oh my gosh, my husband and I had been trying for a long time and my period was super, but we just got pregnant. And it was all because my approach through fitness was improving their health, so that was a side effect of it. Yeah, this is actually, or at least for me, this was actually pretty common.

I saw this a lot, and maybe more so in my early years, and I think that had a lot to do with the, it's normally a combination, right? It's rarely ever a client lose their period just because they're stressed at work, or a client loses their period just because they're in a low calorie diet for a while. It's normally like the perfect storm,

they're kind of doing all those things. The most common for me was actually women that were under eating fat in calories and also really stressed. So I would get these high performing ladies that were CEOs or entrepreneurs, so they're kind of grinders, working really hard. Answering calls all night long. Yeah, right. High stress level, not sleeping really well.

Also growing or coming up in the 90s and early 2000s of demonizing fat still, and so they ate chicken breasts, it salads all day long, and we're only consuming 1200 calories. And then they also want me to train them three to five days a week. And then that created this perfect storm for the period to shut down. And simply by me pulling back on the intensity, making some effort towards reducing stress and sleep,

and increasing their healthy fats, almost always fixed it. Now, of course, there's always gonna be exceptions to the rule. This is a very individualized depends type of question, but in my experience, that was some of the most common offenders. It is your fertility. This is both for men and for women. Is it very, it's a pretty remarkable single signal that can tell you something is off. I mean, you may be, it's a pretty remarkable single signal that can tell you something is off.

I mean, you may be feeling like you're good, like you feel good, maybe because you're not listening to the signals of your body and you're just wired all the time. So you think that that's a good thing. And you may be like, I have a buddy who, this guy whose sperm count was below fertile. And he's just like, man, I felt good. And I'm asking, what do you mean you felt good?

He's like, well, I was working and I wasn't getting good sleep and I was hyped. I'm like, okay, you're in this hype state of being all the time. Your body's not going to want to pro create. So the same thing, got him to sleep, increases his calories, focus a little bit more on strength training, less on the other intense type workouts. And his sperm count climbed quite a bit.

Same thing happens for women. This is one of those signals. And what I don't like is that we tend to bandate it. So what they'll do with women is they'll maybe prescribe fertility drugs and other things, which sure it could make you drop an egg or produce more or whatever, or for men, you know, give them testosterone. But you're really banned, you're putting a bandaid

over a problem and over time that problem might actually get worse, especially now that you're ignoring it by putting a bandaid over. Look, my pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Doug, the producer at Mind Pump Doug. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. Me at Mind Pump Salon Adam at Mind Pump Adam.

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