Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1386: The Difference Between Strength & Hypertrophy Training, Natural Ways to Balance Female Hormones, Identifying the Underlying Causes of Poor Squat Form & More

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how the difference between strength training and hypertrophy training, natural approaches to helping eliminate anxi...ety, how to know if needing to change foot position for a squat is due to limited mobility or is related to individual hip anatomy, & how to balance hormones as a female. Gymshark, the Shredz of athleisure wear. (6:15) Vuori is building their business off quality and not social media. (12:20) How to be inclusive without virtue signaling? (17:10) Mind Pump Reminisces, the Def Leppard effect. (18:20) Putting things into perspective. A grandfather’s legacy. (21:45) Justin’s new look paying off in the bedroom? (27:30) Is a lack of training causing all these football injuries? (30:44) UFC, MAGA versus BLM? (32:05) Will social media become regulated? (34:32) New Product Alert from Ned! (37:24) Sal’s favorite arm superset with a suspension trainer. (41:58) #Quah question #1 – What is the difference between strength training and hypertrophy training? Don’t they both produce muscle mass? (43:27) #Quah question #2 – My doctor recently just put me on Xanax for anxiety issues. I feel this is just a band-aide. What are some better, natural approaches for helping eliminate anxiety? (51:15) #Quah question #3 – How do we know if needing to change foot position for a squat, such as widening feet or slightly pointing toes outward, is due to limited mobility or if it’s related to individual hip anatomy? (56:46) #Quah question #4 – Do you have any tips on how to balance hormones as a female? When training load is near athlete levels? (1:05:30) Related Links/Products Mentioned MAPS Fitness Products The Downfall of Gymshark Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! NFL Week 2 injury tracker: Latest on Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Courtland Sutton, Nick Bosa and more Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS Suspension Which Is Better: Low Reps Or High Reps? - Mind Pump Blog Why You Need to Mix Rep Ranges After Periods of Training – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1272: COVID-19 & How To Cope With Fear & Anxiety Foot Position Affects Hip Function Mind Pump #1382: Why Everyone Should Squat MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram The Ready State (@thereadystate)  Instagram Squat University (@squat_university)  Instagram Mike Boyle (@bodybyboyle)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:28 and fun time. Lots of fun. So what we do is we open up this podcast with an introductory portion. We cover some current events. That was about 36 minutes long. After that, we answered the fitness questions. By the way, if you want to follow along
Starting point is 00:00:40 and click on the timestamped part of the episode that you want to listen to, go to mindpumppodcast.com. Okay, so here's the breakdown. We open up by talking about Jim Shark. Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim Viori, Viori's actually one of the top fastest growing online at leisure work companies in the world. Now we chose to work with them because they're all about value, quality, and they have a lifetime refund guarantee. If you don't like the products at any time, you can return them.
Starting point is 00:01:17 They also look really good. They really upped my style game, right Adam? Absolutely, absolutely. Anyway, because you listen to Mind Pump, you get the biggest discount available anywhere for Viori, 25% off. Here's what you do. Go to VioriClothing.com. That's VU-O-R-I, clothing.com-forward slash Mind Pump. Then we talk about one of the greatest rock bands of all time, Deaf Leopard. Yeah. That's a good time.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Push and sugar on me, Sal. Then we talk about my grandfather's legacy. I got to spend some great time with them over the weekend and got to hear the story of how he came to this country and built his legacy, made me feel like a big wimp because he did a lot of tough stuff. And then Justin talked about his new look that's getting him some action at home. Oh yeah. He's wearing the speedos.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I'm gonna have to repeat it. Then we talked about football coming back. We talked about the fight, the UFC fight over the weekend. Colby versus Tyrone, this was Maga versus BLM. At least that's the way they hyped up. That's what it looked like. Really crazy. Apparently it was a good fight.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Then we talked about the new product from Ned. Ned is full spectrum hemp oil, and they have a sleep product. That's high in CBD and in CBN. So this is a sedative. You take this at night, relaxes you, puts you to sleep. We've been trying it out and getting the best sleep ever. It's incredibly effective.
Starting point is 00:02:40 This stuff is legit. Look it up. CBN with CBD, their product, it's a sleep product, and because you listen to Mind Pump, you get 15% off your purchase, here's what you do, go to hellonad.com, that's H-E-L-L-O-N-E-D.com forward slash Mind Pump, use the code Mind Pump get 15% off, then I talked about one of my favorite arm super sets using a suspension trainer. I mentioned it before, I'm still doing it.
Starting point is 00:03:07 My guns look amazing, at least that's what Justin told me. Those of you guys at YouTube, you can see what's going on. They're glorious. He said buns. It's pretty, oh he said buns. Well my guns look good too. Then we got into the fitness questions. Here's the first one.
Starting point is 00:03:20 This person wants to know, what's the difference between strength training and hypertrophy training? In other words, what's the difference between building strength and building muscle size? The next question, this person just got put on Xanax, wants to know what natural alternatives there are to Xanax, and that part of the episode we did talk about Ned again because it does have some good relaxing properties. But we also talked about lifestyle changes that can improve anxiety. good, relaxing properties. But we also talked about lifestyle changes that can improve anxiety.
Starting point is 00:03:45 The next question, this person wants to know, how do they know if they need to change their foot position for a squat? Is it a mobility issue or am I just born this way? And the final question, this person wants to know if we have any tips on how to balance out hormones and women who are training at very, very high levels like athletes.
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Starting point is 00:06:14 Dude, Adam. So with all that heat, you threw at the gym shark. Oh, God. I, you know, they, uh, they're like a they, I mean, I sprinkled a little bit too. I don't know. Yeah. He just put a bunch of chum in the water, you know, and then all of a sudden it became a, it's on thing. You know, they, I mean, they, they, they fucking made their own bed. That's, you know, I, I was just, I did a post, you know, by, shout out to our friend, Mike Matthews.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I love that. And, Sal, I know you do this too. It's like a, here's an Instagram hack for you, right? So when you have something super controversial that's going to piss everybody, or at least 50% of the people off, instead of making the statement, you do like a question, you know, you pose a question and you do a poll. Right. You want to get a pulse for what people are thinking? Right. It's a total hack. It is a hack. It's a Instagram hack, I think. I think it's a great way. I just gave that away.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, so that's okay. I like to share stuff like that, right? So I, I don't know how I came across the post. They sent me their pops up in my feed or there. I think they were on my explorer page and I clicked on it and I saw their posts. And by the way, I don't know much about the company. So that's why I, this is is why too, I was careful.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Like I'm not one to like not know the whole backstory, not know about the inception of the business and like what their goals are and their mission statement. I don't know any of that stuff. So I'm not gonna come out and assume that they're totally virtue signaling, but they did a post. All I know about them is they're close on that good.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That's all I've ever heard. I don't know anything else about them. Well, so I've compared them to the shreds of athletes. Yeah. It's classic, by the way. I don't know if anybody knows that. It is. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And it's not a complete, I mean, it obviously comes off like a jazz joey. But it's a little bit like, I mean, what shreds did that was brilliant. I mean, they made millions and millions of dollars is they were first to market. They did a good job of the affiliate affiliate marketing with Instagram influencers. You know, they were the one of the first supplement companies, if not the first supplement company to figure that part out. Yeah, they they swooped up all these Instagram influencers really early and made deals with them
Starting point is 00:08:26 and they exploded. So Jim Shark has a very similar story as for us. And they did recently value like a billion dollar. Oh yeah. Which is by the way, that's the only reason I too, like I don't mind jabbing like stuff like this. I would never want to be bullying somebody who is smaller than we are. So I feel comfortable when it's a billion dollar company. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:47 They're massive. Yeah. I feel comfortable. I can handle the heat. Right. Throw it a little bit of jazz. So anyways, they did this post and it was like, you know, imagine people being upset that we post about BLM and something about fitness that every size or something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I don't remember exactly what it was. I screenshot it and I shared it. So if you don't follow me, it sucks for you. So I get with it. I did a screenshot of that and I just did a poll that said virtue signaling or positive message. And like 20% of my followers thought it was a positive message and the other 80% believed it was virtue signaling.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Now the irony was about three hours after that, they pulled it down. Which is worse. Way worse. And then it's obvious. If you make a statement that's controversial, unless it's really bad and you really did mess up, like stick to it.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. Well, it's not controversial to stay used to say, well, they know It is on social media Well, it got in fearing there they would never take it down that would be their stance Well, well, the reason why I was controversial was because underneath it somebody made a comment like you know Oh, you know, it was something along the lines of Lots of police officers support your brand You know, this isn't cool or whatever and they said we'll we'll survive. Like, in other words, we don't care,
Starting point is 00:10:06 it's kind of how they inferred, and that started a shit storm. Yeah, and they did, and they hit some smart outcry marks, like people asked, you know, what about the people in blue and they said, oh, I can't wait for Avatar 2 to come out. So they said some snarky shit, response.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And so that definitely just added fuel to fire. And then, and then it just proved my point, which was, you know, in virtue signaling, really what it is, it's just disingenuous. You know, when people say things on Instagram and you don't really mean what you say, it's better off you just don't say it at all. Yeah, like you're better off not saying it whatsoever,
Starting point is 00:10:38 but if you really stand behind something, and that's what I didn't know, right? I don't know if they're all about equality. For all I know, they started their business with that mission in mind and that's what I didn't know, right? I don't know if they're all about equality. For all I know, they started their business with that mission in mind, and that they've been working towards that, and they've been doing things, but I didn't think so, and so I asked,
Starting point is 00:10:52 I posed the question, and then when they pulled it down, to me, it was very, very obvious. Well, because now what you've done is you took a stand, and so now the people on your side are like, we stand with you, of course now there's people on the other side Especially when they made the comments about Police officers like will survive and then what do you think about blue lives matter? And they said well, you know, well, we can't wait for Avatar 2
Starting point is 00:11:14 So they had a little bit of enemies on one side. They had their supporters on the other side But then they took it down, which means they've alienated everybody. They pissed everybody off now. Yes Yeah, so I mean so I'm reading right now You know if you look them up and you tap in like news or whatever but they pissed everybody off now. Yes, we need to go. Yeah, so I mean, so I'm reading right now, if you look them up and you tap in like news or whatever, it's like what's trending is like, why is Jim Shark canceled? Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Oh. So yeah, I kind of caused a bit of a shit store. You know, this is the thing about social media is that if you say something controversial that you mean, the worst thing you could do is take it down after you cause controversy. Because then you look like you waiver or it actually reinforces the potential idea that you were virtue signaling.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Because if you're not virtue signaling, you would stand by. It's really easy. Don't say shit you don't mean. Yeah, it's pretty fucking simple. And be ready to die on that hill. If you wanna say it, then you gotta be able, you gotta stand by. It's really easy. Don't say shit you don't mean. Yeah. It's pretty fucking simple. And be ready to die on that hill. If you want to say it, then you've got to be able to be able to die on that hill. You're putting that door and opening it up.
Starting point is 00:12:11 The part that I mean, so I guess, you know, they fall in the top 10, I think, right, for athletes you're wear. They're up there with Viori. Actually, I just found the chart. Oh, yeah. So, they are financially, right? So that wouldn't example, right? So like, you know, from an outsider looking in,
Starting point is 00:12:28 you with from a dollar perspective, you think it's this great company because it's doing so well, but Tony, they timed the market so well that they got, they swooped up all these influencers really, really early at the right time, and they just crossed. Well, at leisureware,
Starting point is 00:12:42 opposite of how Viori did it. At leisureware is exploding. It's one of the segments of the retail market. That is just growing, growing, growing. Other segments are kind of stagnant and not doing so well. Viori is actually the second fastest growing at leisure brand right now.
Starting point is 00:13:00 They've seen with no Instagram influencers. No, no. Yeah. Well, it's all based off their stuff. Their stuff is legit. It's really good, right? Quarter to quarter growth on line, 93%. So they're crushing. Now, Jim Shark was number nine.
Starting point is 00:13:18 They're already really big, and they've seen some growth as well, but one third of the rate of something I feel. Just two total different models, right? So Viori built on a brand of value, right? And it's about the close. Yeah, quality and value. And that was, and a slower process, right?
Starting point is 00:13:35 They've been around longer than Jim Shark, took them longer to get traction and for people to actually try it and wear it and see that it's amazing. Then you have another model, which is built off of just marketing. They had a great job marketing. They did an incredible job of timing the Instagram market
Starting point is 00:13:51 and getting ahead of all the influencers grabbing their athletes you're wearing and they've exploded because of that. Yeah, the influencer model is such a quick grab. And you see companies, it's really enticing to do that, to just put your product out there really quickly, get immediate exposure and then get the money as a result of that.
Starting point is 00:14:11 But the quality at the end of the day is what keeps it going. I just feel like if you build a business off of social media, you have to be very careful because you're kind of signing a deal with the devil. And if you make, if you start a brand and you are, you really cater, you try to cater a lot to people and maybe you're not genuine,
Starting point is 00:14:34 you can be canceled just as quickly as you grew. So you gotta be kind of careful. Personally, I would rather, and I do this all the time on my Instagram, I would call it thinning the herd. I'll post something, that's something that I think that I know some people have a problem and they stop following, but that's okay. I'd rather have a smaller audience that knows
Starting point is 00:14:54 really who I am and I'm honest, then a big audience where I'm afraid of taking every little step I'm walking on eight shells and I follow, I make the wrong move, and now I'm gonna get smashed. You're always at the whim of the mob. Absolutely. I'm just annoyed by the companies that are doing it during this time.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You know what I'm saying? It's like, I have nothing against. And that's why somebody was messaging me saying, like, oh, I think this is how they believe in Stan. I said, hey, I don't know. I said, that's why I opposed it as a question and I didn't make it as a statement. I said, for all I know that this is something
Starting point is 00:15:23 that they've been working towards for two or three years, but based off of what I see, you know, in just the last three to four months, it doesn't look like that's what it is. And the thing that you're saying, that's totally different. I mean, you're talking about sharing values, you know, that you've had for a very, very long time, that you know may not align with every single person that's following you, and you're not motivated to post about it because there's a certain climate going on right now. It's just that, hey, I'm going to put this out there. It's what I believe in standby.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I know there's going to be a percentage of people that don't agree with me and it is what it is. Here's a good example of, you know, when you hear people say virtue, and I know it gets thrown around now, but here's a good example of virtue signaling. Celebrities are excellent at this. So the best at it. They're obviously the good actors anyway. It's whether celebrities, so they're really good at acting
Starting point is 00:16:11 like they care and acting empathetic. But when you really look at the, they're how they live, you can see what they really believe in. So like a celebrity, like Leonardo Caprio, who loves traveling around the world and railing on people about the environment and the climate and how we all need to be more considerate and this and that. But the guys got yachts, private jets, mansions.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I mean, he pollutes just because of the amount of stuff that he owns and like one private jet flight or one yacht. I mean, it'll produce more carbon than I think the average person could produce in, you know, 50 years or something like that. It's silly. So here he is preaching and you think, oh my God, Leonardo Capra really cares about the climate. Actually, he doesn't. He really cares about what people think about him. He doesn't really care about the environment. So that's that's a good example of which is Nancy Pelosi cares about our health. Oh, she's there you go. She's still getting hammered. Yeah, she's certainly well, somebody was asking me about like, you know, how do you, you know, I don't understand how do you
Starting point is 00:17:15 how are you a company that, you know, promotes or wants to be inclusive, but then how do you do it without virtue signaling? I said, it's it's it's really simple You don't need to post and and talk about all that shit all the time. You it's your actions. It's what you do It's the decisions that you make the virtue signaling part is the part where it's like look at me Look at me look what I'm doing and for those people that I was talking in DMs I said you know a lot of people just assume that we did nothing during this whole time and that's bullshit I said it's because we didn't post about it We didn't take a screen capture the checks that we because we didn't post about it. We didn't take a screen capture of the checks that we wrote.
Starting point is 00:17:46 We didn't talk about it on the podcast at bunch. We just did it. That's because of what we believe. I said, if it was, it would have been a virtue signaling. How do we do a post that said, look how much we donated to this cause. Look at what we did here. It's like, that's how you, that you're true to a cause like that
Starting point is 00:18:02 is you take action and you do things about it, but you do it with knowing that you don't care if anybody sees. What's the saying in marketing, you're better off donating $10,000 and spending $100,000 on marketing to tell people. You donate 10,000, then didn't donate $110,000. You're better off doing it that way.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Dude, you're sure, you're deaf leopard sure. It's just so rare. Bringing it back. You know, that's the first album I ever owned. So when I was in a stereo. Is that the one with Rocket? Yes. So you know when you're...
Starting point is 00:18:32 For some sugar on me and photograph. You know when you're... Drumsolo's, right? Dude, how did he do that? With one arm. One arm drummer. Okay, that guy's a champ. That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I don't know. Yeah, he pulled it off. It's, you know when you're a kid and you hear one song that you like, so you're like, you know, what do you want for Christmas? Yeah. I want, you know, def leopard on my uncle's eye, really. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Well, you know, that's a person sugar on me, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, there's, there's, you know, there's music that you have that is like, stuck to memories. So my mom, so my dad died when I was seven. My mom remarried by the time I was eight. And my mom, so my dad died when I was seven. My mom remarried by time I was eight
Starting point is 00:19:07 and my stepdad, you know, at that time, so this is, let's see here, this is 88, right? So 88, 89, my stepdad came into my life, my mom, when she met him, he drove a teetop,top Camaro and he had permed blonde hair. And all I could picture was him. She married him. Yeah. That's like the coolest thing you said on the hood. Just like, hey, it just, here I go again.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I'm like, oh! And then blaring like pour some sugar on me in the car. And I mean, better if it's an Iraq. I have, I've like, I mean, getting older, I have lost so many memories of like before, 10 years old, but like that's like just ingrained in my brain. So I had a cousin who, you know, he was like, his name is, his name is Frank. So he came down to visit my grandfather because my grandfather's, he's ill right now, not
Starting point is 00:19:59 doing so well. So family's been coming to visit or whatever. And I saw my cousin, you know, my cousin Frank, he was there. And I haven't seen him a long time. I knew him as a kid. So I was much younger than him. He's like, I wanna say about 10 years older than me. So he was super cool, right?
Starting point is 00:20:15 When I was a kid, when I was 12, he's like 22, he was like the coolest guy in the world. And he used to work with my dad as my dad's helper. When my dad would go, you know, do tile and marble and stuff like that. Maybe he's eight years older than me. But anyway, he helped my dad. And he's helper. When my dad would go, you know, do tile and marble and stuff like that. Maybe he's eight years old in me. But anyway, he helped my dad. And he was like the coolest guy ever.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Anyway, he drove in Iraq. Yeah. Okay. He had the, the, the, the, the, the Guitau hair, you know, it's kind of the, the wavy, longer hair. A mousselglo in it. Bro, he had a mustache.
Starting point is 00:20:40 He'd wear the beater. Nothing but Bob Seeger. He's blasting. Bro, he'd wear the beater. And you know what his license plate said He had a custom license plate mr. Italy I was like 12 13 and you were like that is so cool bro He would tell me about it. He would tell so inappropriate. I think of the rocky right away when I think about that right when he when Eddie Murphy does the
Starting point is 00:21:03 When he does what is it del what is it, Delirious? Was it Delirious? We've got the impression of the guys, the Italian guys walking. Watch Rocky and they think they can beat everybody up. That was me. But this is so inappropriate now thinking about it, but I'm 13, so I'm like a teenager in order, and he's on a holiday, he's 17, 18, maybe,
Starting point is 00:21:20 and he's telling me like, about the girls he's hooking up with, and he's like, yeah, dude, I'm like, man, you're so cool, is like, do you drive a car like this, bro? He's like, just open the teetops. He's like, he's like, open the teetops. They jump right in. I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Wow. Anyway, he's a great fish in a barrel. Yeah, no, it's such a dish. But he grew up and he became an Aussie's a father now. He's a great guy, but anyway, he saw us hanging out with my grandfather this weekend because he's 89. He and he's a great guy. But anyway, so I was hanging out with my grandfather this weekend, because he's 89. He's lived a long life.
Starting point is 00:21:48 20 years ago, he had a little bit of prostate cancer, beat it, but it's back. So everybody's, you know, we're all hanging out with them and stuff. And I had a conversation with my grandfather. I've never really had where I had him kind of spell out kind of how we came to this country what this all look like. Cause we're sitting down talking and my grandfather, he's at this one, on one hand he's the most macho man
Starting point is 00:22:13 you ever met in your life. And on the other hand, he's also very emotional. So he starts to get a little emotional and he's, you know, he's telling me how he wants me to say something when he passes away and this and that. And I'm like talking about his legacy. I'm saying, you know, look at around, cause Radis house and his all his family there, that. And I'm like talking about his legacy. I'm saying, you know, look at, because Radis house and his all his family there, right?
Starting point is 00:22:28 And I'm like, look around. This is not even one tenth of the legacy that you started in this country with your grandkids. There, you know, your kids, their kids, their kids, and you have all these great grandkids, all the people that you brought from Italy because he was the first one to come here and people would come and stay with him.
Starting point is 00:22:48 So him and my grandmother sat down and you want to talk about putting things in perspective. They told me the story of kind of how they came over here. So when my dad, when my grandfather was, he married my grandmother in Sicily. These were very, very tough times over there, very poor. At 21, he laughed because he heard that there was opportunity in Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:23:12 21, he went to Venezuela for three years. Didn't see his wife, didn't see anybody. My grandmother, it was pregnant. She had my uncle. She came to visit him to see him in Venezuela. On a boat, she lived on the boat for two weeks with a baby at, she was 20, didn't speak a lick of any other language by the time.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Met my grandfather in Venezuela, then they both went back to Italy. Then my grandfather came back to America for another couple years. My grandmother didn't see him. And she was pregnant with my mom. Has my mom comes back over on a ship, which, by the way, broke down.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So she was lived on a ship for like a month with my mom who was an infant and her three or four year old little boy. Didn't know anything, didn't know anybody. Anyway, so this is all, they were telling me the story of how they all did this. I'm like, I told my grandfather, I'm like, how did you end up buying, he's got a nice house, right?
Starting point is 00:24:06 And San Jose, I'm like, how did you buy this house? He goes, well, when I came here, I found another Italian who worked at this factory. He gave me a job, saved my money, saved my money, then we rented an apartment, then we rented a house, then he got a job as a custodian in his school so my grandfather did for most of his life. He worked in the school district as a custodian.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But he would come home from work at five o'clock at night, then he'd go and clean movie theater, movie theaters until like three a.m. This is what he did for years. Getting it done. Saved his money. My grandmother didn't speak English, didn't even have a driver's license.
Starting point is 00:24:40 So she, and then she started to make friends with people and started babysitting. Saved their money and they bought the house that they're in now You know how much you how much you pay for the house back then how much 24 thousand dollars 24 thousand dollars how long how long ago is that? 19 this was made in 1950s something late 50s So he buys the house and set in San Jose now remember San Jose by the way There's not a thing you can buy a house for under a million here He came and buy garage for that much. Yeah, farms here for the most part.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It was farms, it was fields, you know, San Jose was a farm town essentially. So they buy that house and my grandfather's like, at that time I was making $300 a month, working two jobs and I forgot what his mortgage was but it was like most of his money. I'm like, how did you guys make it? He's like, you just save your money.
Starting point is 00:25:25 You just work hard. And so I'm looking around at this legacy that he's been, and I can't even believe that the guy at 20 something years old, two times went to a country, didn't speak the language, had no idea what he was doing. There's no internet. There's no nothing. And he's just figuring it out and busting his ass.
Starting point is 00:25:40 No, it's to translate. Nothing. And so as I'm talking to him, I'm like, this just sounds crazy to me. You know, I tell him, I'm like,'m like no no this sounds so crazy at that age You it's a weren't you afraid? He goes no I wasn't afraid he goes you remember at 10 years old because I used to get Potatoes and I would leave and I'd go and I take the train to the other side
Starting point is 00:26:01 Assistfully and I'd spend the night somewhere for two nights selling potatoes and then I'd Bring the money back to my mom at 10 years old. So yeah, of course at the age of 20 You're like, yeah, dude, you're like a train spend the night. I'm going to America. No problem. I heard that place is awesome You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, they don't make they just it's just crazy and it makes you realize what we're capable of and how Because every generation I think it just gets whatever you wanna call it, soft. Oh, it's cool. I guess in comparison, because I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine doing that now, my age,
Starting point is 00:26:30 moving to a country, not knowing the language with internet and everything, it'd be kind of scary. That is just making it happen. Crazy. That's a rare thing to see. Oh, it's crazy. But you know, he just,
Starting point is 00:26:39 he started this entire chapter of our family. My grandfather, as a kid, I remember this, he would always, he was the most patriotic person. We always say, God bless America. If the national anthem would come on, he would, again, it's these macho but emotional. He'd cry, get pissed off that he'd cry because he didn't like to cry, but he'd get pissed off and talk about his greatest country in the world. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So I'm a bitch. You know, pissed off because, you know, so it's fighting that tear that's in the corner of the team. You know, you don't miss off. So it's fighting that tear that's in the corner. Yeah, dude. But anyway, so cool. My crap was saved. Yeah. It's so mad. It's so crazy that you're these stories and stuff, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Oh, I forget how lucky we are. It's good to hear them, though. Yeah, and I'm thinking like, oh man, I gotta go like break down some boxes in the garage and tired. You know, some stupid shit like that. I've been on the computer all day. I'm tired. Yeah know some stupid shit like that. I've been on the computer all day I'm tired. I don't feel like working out. Hey Justin, did you get your speedos yet dude?
Starting point is 00:27:32 I got my speedos. What? Hold on what's going on here? Yeah so, okay so I had this idea. Well I think Adam actually had this idea originally. Well I ordered from them already. Yeah so I don't, I never got a chance to wear. So I'm sorry I interrupt you but I'll tell you the story of this, the original speedo right? Yeah, so I don't, I never got a chance to wear. So I'm sorry, I interrupt you,
Starting point is 00:27:45 but I don't tell you the story of the original speedo, right? So, remember when back when, that when you guys over, is that what's happening? No, no, no, no. You guys find that maybe subconsciously, but no, the value and the security of nice too, or getting underwater. Yeah, do you, not that, no, the swim speedo, right?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Do you remember when Ben Greenfield and I were going back and forth talking shit about swimming? About going to swim competition? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had a, this company, I were going back and forth talking shit about swimming. About going the swim competition? Yeah, yeah. So I had a, this company, I forget the name of it, Justin probably knows because he just bought from them because I bought a, I bought two Speedos with Ben Greenfield's face on them. Yeah. So, and I bought this butt.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Yeah, so I've got those. I've got a problem is they came in and they don't fit. They're too small. They're way too small. I can't put them on. And I'm like, the lengths that I went to order, I had to go get a bunch, like a good image. I had to make sure that parts fall out. Oh yeah, it doesn't even go over my thighs.
Starting point is 00:28:35 They're way too tight. So unfortunately, the idea I had of putting them on and then calling them out and shit on social media. Can Doug wear them? Yeah, Doug could probably fit in. You know, maybe I'll get him for Doug. Doug, Doug. Great.
Starting point is 00:28:50 You already put him on. But actually what I want, Ben's face on my butt. Yeah, he still, you know. Anyway, he's Justin wanted, Justin, I guess he's working on something and he was looking for speed. I was like, oh, I have the company for you. So I have this, yeah, I have this silly idea
Starting point is 00:29:02 for a commercial for Juve, like in mind and we're gonna set it up for shooting and everything. I've been waiting for this to come in because I ordered it ahead of time and it was like, it's basically like, you know, an American flag and all that and it's like very, you know, very small, very tight, very like, uh, I don't know, the like European cut. I guess you run small, I'm sure. Yeah, feel snug. Let me tell you. Yeah, and so comfortable. Courtney was like, well, you know, you can't just go do all this without giving me a preview.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And so I'm just like, oh God, really? And so that turned into a whole night. Whoa, whoa, it worked. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, but like she's sitting on a goldmine this whole time. So the answer was like, wait a wait, I don't like it. You know, as you kept saying, I don't want to like it, but you know, keep those on for a while.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I was like, this is awkward. Wow. Wow, work. You're gonna go get your construction. Yeah. Hey, go fix the deck. Let's be some to that. Wait, wait, wait, did you put on boots too? No. No, I'm not to admit all those things. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, dude, I'm telling you, once you discover the power of a good fitting, nice fitting
Starting point is 00:30:10 pair of speedos. Apparently, I've noticed this is a trend because I court-eat too, and we order stuff from Viorio all the time, and she's like, what was your size again? I tell her size, she gets me a smaller size, like every time. What? Yeah, dude. My shorts have been a little more snug, but I mean, it's not terrible. It's like like ice to wear them a little more loose. So I had room and everything for the boys, but you know, now I can even
Starting point is 00:30:34 show her shorts. She's kidding me. I'll surrender. She wants to see the cakes apparently. She's the kid with a bunch of bud cheeks hanging out the bottom. That's still a little too much, guy. Hey, did you, did you watch, did you watch football this weekend? I did.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Hey, so 49ers lose? Yeah, no, they won. They won, they won, but... Listen, lots of injuries. Tons of injuries, that's what I wanted to bring up. So, really interesting. I can't remember how many ACLs have already been torn this season in two weeks, right?
Starting point is 00:31:02 So, it's obviously a plane going on. A lot of speculation around the lack of training. Yeah. I mean, you got to be honest to me. COVID, bro. Wait, thank you. They're not allowed to train. No, no, so leading up to this, the season. So there is no preseason. No preseason was huge. Yeah, there's no preseason. There was a few weeks there where I'm sure nobody was training at all. That makes sense. That makes sense. Right. And so it just shows you how important all that is getting ready for the season. And then you have all these pro athletes that are
Starting point is 00:31:32 going full speed ahead. And you've got guys, Teran ACL is left and right right now. Yeah. It's all over the place. And I was getting frustrated with that because it was all the key players too. Wasn't just like, you know, like one guy here there, it was like all of our key players from quarterback to like a defensive end and everybody else, I'm like, no, they're going down like flies. How was the ratings? Did you guys looking up the ratings?
Starting point is 00:31:57 I haven't, the last I saw they were still really. I really don't even care about that. I just want to watch because I'm like, yeah, football's on. Well, that wasn't there a UFC fight too? Yes. Yeah, that was an interesting fight thing I didn't get to see it again see I want to see the the tyrone woodley and what was the other guy's name the one is a Chad uh not Chad Connor or something yeah just throw the Chad you know super white name super white name Chad is the name Chad Kyle Colby oh. Oh shit. That's it. That's a racist.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Just a racist. Colby Covington. Okay. I'm allowed to. So I did just so I don't watch the fight, but I did see that afterward. Trump called Trump. Oh my God. I did see that. That's because he's like super hardcore like pro. He's the Maga guy. Yeah, he's the come in with like the red hat and everything a couple of years like when he first got elected. Now what I want to know, which I, so I'm not in it, I'm not following closely. So somebody can like school me on this
Starting point is 00:32:53 and I'm sure they will. Tyrone Willie I know was, he was rocking the BLM stuff and then of course this dude's got all the Trumps. Now was this all, what I'm curious about, what I'm curious about. That sounds like smart. So that's what I'm getting. This is what I want to know. So somebody can screw me on this.
Starting point is 00:33:10 We're both these guys kind of like that before this match already happened, or did Dana orchestrate this whole like, because there's a bunch of shit going on right now. To my understanding, Colby was like this before. I don't know about Tyrone. Yeah, I don't know about you. But I know Colby, if I'm not mistaken, he was like this before. So this was part of his deal or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It just seems to WWE kind of strategizing. Right, so that's why I'm curious. So somebody's a bigger MMA fan than I am, can school me on exactly, we're you know, we're both these guys kind of like that well before, and was the fight already kind of scheduled well before, or did this all kind of happen in the last, like, 30, 60, 90 days? Well, I mean, speaking of WWE,
Starting point is 00:33:56 which when we were kids it was WWF, they were brilliant at this. I'm much better named. They were, because when I was a kid, remember when I was a kid, they would do like the good guy was the dude, with the American flag, and then they'd have some like Russian wrestler or like the iron chic from the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I mean, they plan that really perfectly to have that kind of that, you know, that, that. What's called the heel? Yeah, they always have the guy that comes out that just loves to be hated. Yeah. And like, yeah, I don't know. They might have like unintentionally
Starting point is 00:34:27 or intentionally orchestrated that together. I'm pretty sure that was playing. Dude, I might set something up for my son to play his video games in the garage. So he's at a house, yeah. Like a TV or what? No, no, just a table. So he can be as loud as he fucking wants to be,
Starting point is 00:34:43 but in the garage. Oh, he gets loud or Well, so loud dude, and that's not gonna work especially when we have a baby He yells at his friends. He just gets excited and he has no Govning of of his volume so we'll say keep it down and then you'll keep it down for 10 minutes get excited Get real loud again, and I know the shit out of everybody. Oh really? So I'm just like, yeah, so we- All the way from his bedroom even? Yeah, dude, he's just loud. Dude, that's loud.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah, well he's got a voice kind of like mine. I know my voice travels. Who does that a little bit too? Oh, wow. Yeah, we've actually had to address this a bit too because I've actually gone back to just allowing the console and not the iPads and like, so they were playing a lot like on iPads
Starting point is 00:35:24 and it was just like, it's a completely different type of behavior once you pull them away from the iPad versus the console of like the TV. And like they can still interact with their friends, like he's doing with the online stuff, but what do you think that is? Why is that so different? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I think it's proximity and then I don't know. It's like just they get like, I don't know, man. They get so much more sucked in. I think it's because it's like one thing after another thing, after another thing when you're on YouTube or you're playing these other type of games, I don't know. They've hacked something.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I don't know, but I just know that I've noticed it. And so like removing that and now making that the only option that they can work their way towards and earn Has been way better for me to manage now now. It's cool because for me it's like my my son's in the garage He can go play his games be as loud as want talk to his friends and he kind of thinks it's cool, right? Because it's 15 so it's on space. Yeah, I don't know bachelor Well, we'll see how cool he thinks it is when it's cold and hot, you know, in there But I mean, it's it's we need a long-term solution because if we have a baby Napping and stuff you can't be on his games how loud and stuff, but in the garage
Starting point is 00:36:33 He's far more. I want to escape there anyway. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's not like a bad situation That's like where we all started band and you know like it all starts in the garage man I know ever since since that Netflix show, the social dilemma came out. I've gotten, so have you guys got a lot of DMs about that yet? I have. Lots of people are like, see you later. Like, you know, this is my last time.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah, I also, it also appears to be useful for potential future legislation to regulate. Oh, interesting. Social media. So sometimes you gotta look at the stuff and say, okay, is there any motives behind this? Maybe this is a way to gain support for some kind of federal oversight, which.
Starting point is 00:37:13 It's interesting that they're so hard on these other companies. Meanwhile, they're taking some heat for their cuties, film, and all that kind of stuff. Oh, that, yeah. Yeah, anyway. Hey, how's your guys' test out that new sleep product? Oh, amazing, yeah, amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yes, I mean, they have that one out of the park. I didn't do it by itself. I actually had it the other night. I had to get up at like five o'clock in the morning and which is early for me, I don't normally get up that early. And so the hardest part about getting up early for me is setting the night before up, right?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Because I'm used to staying up till midnight, one o'clock in the morning, most nights. So I knew that I needed to like go to bed. And it's if I go lay a bed at 9.30, and I don't go to bed, I'll be just staring at the wall. So yeah, no, I mean, it was perfect timing because that was coming up where I had to do that. You had to me that sample that they just came out with.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And boy, dude, I slept like a baby. So explain to me. So by the way, is it out yet? Can we even talk too much about? Because I know it's coming out. I saw ads for it already. So did you? Well, fuck it, we're talking about it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Because I'm actually curious to what I'm in. I wanted to ask you now that we've all tested it. We all like it and everything like that. So this is Ned's new product that's either out or coming out. They, and it's designed just for sleep. Now I've used the whole full spectrum to try and help me go to sleep, and it's done a pretty damn good job already.
Starting point is 00:38:34 What made this so much better? Oh, it is out, beautiful. So you can go check. Okay, so here's what's great about it. So, a couple different things. Hemp and marijuana, which is a kind of a sister plant, but in this case, a tamp because this is legal, contains a lot of compounds that have effects in the body
Starting point is 00:38:55 and they're called cannabinoids. CBD is one of the more popular cannabinoids. CBD can cause relaxation, anti-anxiety effects. It's anti-inflammatory. CBD works best with other cannabinoids. This is why something that's like full spectrum hemp oil extract versus something that's just pure CBD, the full spectrum stuff is just going to be more,
Starting point is 00:39:18 much more effective. But the other cannabinoids have some of their own kind of properties. One of them is called CBN. CBN is being studied right now for its sedative effects, for its sleep effects. So what they did with their sleep formula is its full spectrum hempoil, high in CBD, but also high in CBN.
Starting point is 00:39:40 So they made a special emphasis to increase the CBN in there. And then they added things like passion flour and valerian and other herbs. Camamil, too, right? Yeah, that help with sleep. So, and it's effective. It's very effective. I mean, you take it and, about an hour, for me, it took about an hour to start to feel.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And then you're like, wow, I need to go to bed. Yeah, I took it after like, it was two or three days of, I think it was Friday night I took it and then woke up Saturday just like totally refreshed. The day's previous, that was like a string of three days where I just had rough sleep. My mind was racing like each one of those nights and I just was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:40:18 I need to really focus on sleep and getting, you know, and so I tried it then and I was like, it was crazy like how I woke up like just, had super deep sleep. Oh yeah, I'm not overdoing it with the Camamil, right? I mean, I did the Camamil tea with it. I would say that I fear that's so mild. You have to do like a really strong extract.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I mean, you have to go insane with it to overdo it. That's what I figured. Yeah, not. So would you drink tea with it? Yeah, yeah, so I literally put the five droppers under, because you put the five droppers under your tongue, you're supposed to wait for like a minute or whatever. And then I was, you know, brewing some tea,
Starting point is 00:40:48 Camel-Melti and then had that. By the time I finished the tea, it was maybe 30 minutes later. I was already like, yeah. So the interesting thing is talking to, I was talking to a cannabinoid scientist and she said that using, you know, cannabinoids in this way on a regular basis, healthy. And I said, is this healthy for anybody? She said pretty much because we don't see a really strong, like what's called negative feedback loop where your body starts to build a tolerance. She goes, that happens if you have like,
Starting point is 00:41:21 if you smoke a joint or you have tons of THC, but like this, she goes, no, regular use, you get this nice anti-inflammatory response, you get the EnzioLytic, which is like the relaxing effects. And CBN is, again, it's very interesting, it's got that sedative quality. So, and I did, I tested it now four times, three times, I took it and just went to bed, got good sleep, two times I took it and stayed up to see if I would feel sleepy and I did, it takes about an hour and then I'm like, oh, you know, get that kind of sleepy,
Starting point is 00:41:53 drowsy feeling, went to bed and felt amazing. Amazing. Hey, I wanted to, you know how I told you guys, my new, one of my new favorite super sets for arms, with the suspension trainer. I've been doing it pretty regularly. What a great combination. I'm so angry with myself for not ever doing it.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Well, what's the combo again remind me? So it's the curls with the suspension trainers, this where you walk your feet underneath like you're gonna do a body row, but you're doing curls and your elbows are in front of you. So it's almost like a preacher curl. Preacher curl. So you've got nice high angles, elbows.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah, and then you get full extension and immediately switch to body weight, skull crushers. Oh, yeah. And the pump is insane. It's one of the one of the best supersets I've ever done for my arm. If you have a suspension trainer, this rivals like barbell and dumbbell exercise. That was a classic combination for orange theory.
Starting point is 00:42:41 So they're routines that they had. Right. Yeah, yeah. Because obviously their their classes based around suspension trainers and then the obviously the roller and the treadmill. That back to and that's probably I probably used it more there than I ever did because I think I ended up I loved it. Same thing. I did it. And I was like, Oh, wow, we better pump than I would have expected out of that. This clause brought to you by organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested certified you by organify. and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout.
Starting point is 00:43:26 First question is from health coach Liz. What's the difference between strength training and hypertrophy training? Don't they both produce muscle mass? They do both produce muscle mass. Resistance training done generally speaking, I know, I was weird. Done generally speaking with reps anywhere between
Starting point is 00:43:48 one to 30, they're all pretty much gonna build muscle, but when you get down to the specifics, some rep ranges build more strength in the low rep range. Others might build more stamina and endurance, obviously the higher rep ranges. Now if you do a short term study and you try to compare rep ranges and you see, you know, which one builds the most muscle, you and they've done studies like this, typically they'll find that these kind of mid range rep ranges build a little bit more muscle.
Starting point is 00:44:19 This eight to 12 rep range tends to do that. But here's the problem with that. The problem with that is if you stay in that rep range for too long, it actually stops working and then you build more muscle by switching out of it. In fact, some of the greatest muscle gains I've ever seen in clients were taking people that always trained in the eight to 12 rep range
Starting point is 00:44:36 and then just move them out of it and then they see these huge gains. So I think it is important to understand the differences, but don't get caught up in them. Realize that all of them, if your goal is to build muscle and develop a balanced physique, then you should train in all of the rep ranges. The only people that should stick primarily in one,
Starting point is 00:44:55 but even then I'll recommend that they move out every once in a while, are people who have to compete in that particular rep range. So if you're a power lifter, you're probably going to spend most of your time in the lower rep range. So if you're a power lifter, you're probably gonna spend most of your time in the lower rep ranges, for example, if you're an athlete and you wanna build strength endurance, you might spend more of your time
Starting point is 00:45:13 in the higher rep ranges. But for the average person, you wanna play with all of them. Well, I think you should have clarified first that the rep ranges for each one of those, what represents them, right? So we're assuming that everybody knows that strength training is the one to kind of five rep range is for each one of those, what represents them, right? So we're assuming that everybody knows that strength training is the, you know, one to kind of five rep range or one to six rep range.
Starting point is 00:45:30 And hypertrophy is somewhere between eight to 12 rep range. So that's the difference between the two of them is the rep ranges that we're talking about. And technically, rest periods in tempo, I can be in there like so, there's a, I forget where I came across, I came across, boy, look at this forget where I came across. I came across. I came across from Kim, this infographic that had like, it was like a quadrant. And you had like your
Starting point is 00:45:55 strength training up to your power strength hypertrophy and then endurance. So, you know, and your power is like in the under two, under under two reps, like the single rep and it's fast, 111, 10po. So you're just working on explosive training that would be power and then strength, would technically be somewhere between the two and the six rep range and then your 10po is like a one, two, one type of tempo for that and longer rest periods. And then you start going into the hypertrophy, which is eight to 12 rep range, 90 second type of rest periods,
Starting point is 00:46:29 tempo being more like a 2-2-2 type of tempo, or a 4-2-2, and then you get into your endurance, which is like over 15 rep range and short to no rest periods. So that's really like, and again, those are, I mean, I think debating over all that, like which one builds more muscle is pointless because no matter which category you fall under, whether you're strength training, power training, endurance training or hypertrophy training, the key is to move in and out. If your main goal is to build muscle, burn body fat, build a better physique
Starting point is 00:47:06 all around from performance to how it looks, everything, it's most advantageous for you to move through all of them and reap the benefits of all of them. Now, in those studies that proved that, you know, that rep range was probably, you know, the best for building muscle, was that just mainly about like circumference in the size of muscle? Or were we actually talking about like actually promoting more muscle fibers? Both.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah, they're talking about, but again, in a short window, it's in a, you're talking about a six to 12 weeks. I mean, here's the bottom line. The bottom line is all those rep ranges build muscle and they'll have different benefits. And they're gonna build a lot of muscle if it's new. If it's new for you.
Starting point is 00:47:46 If you haven't trained, you know, if you look at all of our maps programs and we target different avatars. So there's, you know, maps programs for more bodybuilder-oriented people, maps programs for people who like to do unconventional training, for people who like to train more athletically and so on,
Starting point is 00:48:06 we have all these different programs, but if you look at inside all of our programs, all of them take you through all the different rep ranges because no matter what your goal is. No matter what, because there's value in all of it. One of the worst mistakes, one of the big mistakes anybody can make with their long-term training strategy is to stick with the same kind of programming for too long.
Starting point is 00:48:29 No matter how great your programming programming refers to exercises, sets, reps, rest periods, essentially the structure and style of the workout. If you stay in a style for too long, it just stops working. Doesn't matter how great it worked for you to begin with. Everything works, nothing works forever. The Vise always trying to get more efficient and better at whatever you're doing.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And so that's just what happens. Totally. I mean, so the first maps program created was Maps and a Balkans. It's a very good general muscle builder, metabolism booster. It's great for strength. And it starts with the phase one, which is low reps. And what's great about that, and one of the reasons why I put that phase first,
Starting point is 00:49:08 when I first wrote that, so I knew a lot of people would get the program who rarely trained in that phase, that were used to training an eight to 12 or 15 to 20 reps, because that's what people tend to do. So then they do the program, get in that first phase,
Starting point is 00:49:21 and it will blow them away right out the gates because it was a new stimulus. They never had trained consistently in that rep range. That's by far one of the biggest mistakes long term speaking, is sticking too long and one thing and getting caught up in this kind of stuff. This is where data and studies can lead people wrong because the studies aren't wrong. Yes, eight to 12 reps in these three month studies show that you'll build a little bit more muscle, size, and eight to 12.
Starting point is 00:49:54 By the way, it's a little bit, it's not a huge difference, okay? It's not like double the muscle. It's a little bit of a difference. But they'll show that. So what happens is people see that, like that's the one I'm gonna train in. I'm never gonna train in.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I'm never gonna leave. And you end up missing out on so much more muscle and strength because of that. It's a big problem. Well, the truth is both of them build muscle mass and both of them can also not build muscle mass. Right. Right. So if whatever one you've been doing for months and months and months, have you been sticking to that consistently, just simply switching to the other one
Starting point is 00:50:23 is going to build the most muscle. So just keep that in mind. It's so funny too, because as, when I first started working out, and again, I train my clients so much better than myself. This is, I just, I must have fallen for this, at least three or four times, if not more, where I'd move into a new style of training, and I'd get great gains right out the gates, right?
Starting point is 00:50:41 So like three, four weeks, I'm like, oh my God, I'm building muscle and getting stronger. This is the key, and then I would stick to it like hard headedly until it was just obvious that it stopped working for me. And then I'd be like, what's, I need to figure out what's going on. I'd read some article that says,
Starting point is 00:50:57 oh, if you do 20 reps, it builds more muscle. And then I try 20 reps, and then, of course, it's gonna work. And then I'd be like, oh, this is the key. You know, this is what I was missing. And I'd stick to that for way too long. Took me a long time to be like, wait, maybe it's changing, maybe that's the key.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Maybe the key is to move in and out of these different ranges. Next question is from Fat Husband. I put this one in. My doctor just recently put me on Xanax for anxiety issues. I feel this is just a band aid. My doctor just recently put me on Xanax for anxiety issues. I feel this is just a bandaid. What are some better, more natural approaches to helping eliminate anxiety? We just talked earlier about us trying out
Starting point is 00:51:36 Ned's new product for sleep. I would say that this is probably the number one use for that product. So when people, the Ned product in general, right? So the full spectrum hemp, when I get DMs from people that are using, like this is how they're using it more than anybody, more than anything else.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yeah, and that's where the research is pointing to, aside from the kind of just general anti-inflammatory effects, which inflammation systemically can definitely cause feelings of anxiety or even depression connected to both. But besides that, the studies show that that's one of the more useful or pragmatic uses of CBD and the other cannabinoids. You know, it's funny. I had a client that I used to train a lot of doctors and I remember I got in this great discussion with one of my doctor clients who was very open-minded,
Starting point is 00:52:26 and we got in this big old debate about using medications to treat certain issues, and anxiety came up. And I said, I got in this bit, and I'm a fitness guy, right? I'm a health and fitness guy. So my standpoint was, it's a band-aid, you're not fixing the problem. A lot of people's anxiety comes from the fact
Starting point is 00:52:44 that they have poor stress management, poor health, they're not fixing the problem. A lot of people's anxiety comes from the fact that they have poor stress management, poor health, they're not exercising, not getting good sleep, they're not getting good sunlight. If you fix those things, oftentimes you see anxiety dramatically reduce, which is true and I had experiences with clients. And the doctor that I was debating with said to me, they said, look, you're right.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Oftentimes the root cause has to do with just generally improving your health. They said, but if you get stuck in a loop of anxiety, sometimes it's so bad that you can't even stop to look at the anxiety because you're just dealing with it. So sometimes, and I love the way that they put it, they said sometimes, well, I've seen patients like this were all put them on Xanax, but then they'll also do other
Starting point is 00:53:26 things to improve their health. And what the Xanax does is it allows them to step outside of that anxious cycle that feels so nasty long enough to address it with lifestyle changes and then slowly wing themselves off. It's like an intervention. Yes, and that made perfect sense from the doctor. But yeah, are there natural methods?
Starting point is 00:53:46 Try the CBD and the other cannabinoids in hemp. It's very, very effective in my experience. I don't, I'm not going to advise you to replace your Xanax. That is something for your doctor. That's not something I could recommend on this podcast, but also consider this that a lot of anxiety, or this general anxiety from people is due from issues with health, and that don't mean necessarily terrible health, like you have heart disease or diabetes, although those can contribute.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I mean, your lifestyle maybe needs some tweaking. You may be doing too much, you may not be taking care of yourself enough, your sleep might be off, you're not active, exercise. You're not using a lot of your pent-up energy is one thing, one huge factor that I found. And as well, you're consuming a lot of news and things that are really alarming
Starting point is 00:54:39 that are happening all over the world. And I just don't find that that helps at all. It just exaggerates the issue completely with the anxiety. Yeah, the anxiety is obviously on the rise, right? Because people are not going out as much, not seeing each other as much. People aren't exercising as much. It's funny when they do studies on children and they do these with both with ADD and anxiety and children with signs of depression. When they get them out and active and exercising, they see a phenomenal difference.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Same thing with adults. I know for depression and anxiety, appropriate exercise and dietary interventions, in some cases has been shown to be as effective as medication for treating kind of this moderate levels of anxiety and depression. And some scientists and doctors will even say that it's better for long term, because in the long term, as you continue to do these things, health continues to improve, and things get better and better and better.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And now here's the downfall of that, or I would say the challenge. It's more, it's a systemic long long term and probably a harder to apply approach because on the one hand you have a pill, on the other hand you have, oh I got to change my lifestyle. That's a difficult one. So you got to ask yourself that question, is this something I want to do forever? Do I want to see if I can work with my doctor? I've had clients who've done this
Starting point is 00:56:07 where they talk with their doctor and say, okay, I'm gonna start making these changes. And then can you put me on a protocol of slowly lowering my dose of Xanax and then weaning myself off to see if my lifestyle practices or changes are making an impact. And I've had quite a few clients find success that way. It's a long process though.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah, and not like taking it all on at once. So like trying to really reverse like all these habits that you've established that might, you know, it might just take one thing at a time, like just getting out and for a walk and being out in the sun and starting there and, you know, starting to build off of that. But like you said, that is an intervention. I think that's a smart way to do it. Next question is from Marissa Lane. How do we know if needing to change foot position
Starting point is 00:56:53 for a squat, such as widening feet or slightly pointing toes outward, is due to limited mobility or if it's related to our individual hip anatomy? I picked this question because, got into- We covered this nothing. Yeah, we did and we got into it. I don't know if you guys got any blowback from that. I got blowback from that.
Starting point is 00:57:12 From trainers? Yeah, yeah, of course, right. There's always somebody who, we said something about that being excused that a lot of people make, right? That they don't have the right hips to do that. So they have to open their toes up. And I think I made a statement about that being an excuse more often than it's really what's going on, right? And Kelly Starat did a really good
Starting point is 00:57:36 video. Like, I don't know, this is now probably a two, three week old conversation. And he made the case of, if you could sit down in his chair and you could turn your feet straight forward, you should be able to squat with your feet straight forward and then I made a comment over there and then I got a bunch of other trainers getting after me back and forth. And here's in squat university, just did another post on that, right?
Starting point is 00:58:01 Talking about the anatomy, the hipp anatomy on some people and that, some people will have to have their feet turned outward. I agree with that. I agree that we are all very, very unique and I think that everybody's hips are totally different. But I don't think that we are that different that the majority need to turn their feet outward.
Starting point is 00:58:23 That's what I don't think. And that's what I disagree with. I would make the case based off of my experience, okay? And I'm not, this is not me, you know, qualifying you who does this and I don't know who you are and haven't seen you. But in my experience, you know, at least 80% of the people that could not squat without their feet turning outward, it was a mobility issue first. And once we addressed the hip and ankle mobility, they could squat to depth with their toes straight. It was not their hips that was a limiting factor.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Does that mean that everybody is that way? No, I'm sure there's all kinds of exceptions of the rule. I know better than that, but I do think that because that's been come a popular thing to talk about, the hip anatomy and how everyone's so different that it's justified many people squatting with their feet turned all the way out
Starting point is 00:59:16 when they're not addressing mobility. I think, yeah, I might agree with that. If we're talking about just like a base, like this is like my homeostasis in terms of like the most optimal way for me to stand when I'm squatting based off my anatomy and what that provides, but also I shouldn't think that limited.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I shouldn't think that that's the only position I'm ever gonna squat into. Me, that's ridiculous. I would need to then work my way towards, you know, my toes pointing straight or out externally rotated. I'm always trying to make sure my way towards, you know, my toes pointing straight or out externally rotated. I'm always trying to make sure even my stance, if it's too wide, if it's too narrow,
Starting point is 00:59:51 like I wanna have the ability of being able to squat in all the different positions. And, you know, if I'm limited to that, to me, that a lot of that is a mobility issue. And that's something that I look to, and point towards to trying to address. So it's not that, you know, it might not be the stance I'm always in,
Starting point is 01:00:11 but the capability to do it I have and I have acquired. Yeah, here's a test you could do. If you can lay on your back and put your butt up, like your feet up towards the wall, put yourself in a squat position with your feet flat up against the wall, turn your feet up towards the wall, put yourself in a squat position with your feet flat up against the wall, turn your feet in out, and if you can do it without by laying on your back, then you could do it with the right strength and mobility. What's preventing you is lack of mobility.
Starting point is 01:00:37 It reminds me of when I went to go see Dr. Brink, and he put me in this 90, 90 position, right, where my front leg is in front of me, bent at 90 degrees, and my back leg is bent at 90 degrees, but going behind me. And he said, for the back leg, he goes, do you think that you could bring your foot up towards your ear? The back leg, and I was like, no, no way. That would, there's no way that could happen. And he goes, well, you actually have the range of motion.
Starting point is 01:00:59 He grabs my foot, and he lifts it and brings it up. Now I had no strength to control over it. It felt like he grabbed someone else's leg. It felt very strange, but he was proving that my hips could do that. I just didn't have the strength to control over it. And that's essentially what it is. If it's your anatomy, it's not because you're tight or weak.
Starting point is 01:01:17 It's because there's a bone that's in the way. Literally, you can't do it because the bone locks. And it's in the way and you'll know it. You'll try to get in the position and instead of it hurting or feeling tight, it literally feels like, it's like I'm trying to bend your elbow backwards. It ain't going because there's a bone locked in the position.
Starting point is 01:01:34 So if you can lay on your back, bring your knees up with your feet flat up against the floor, like you're doing a squat, turn your legs in and out. Like there's your range of motion. You might not own that range of motion. You might not have the mobility to do that range of motion, but it exists. So then your job is to work on mobility, work on strength,
Starting point is 01:01:53 work on your ability to move in that range of motion and own it. The more you own different ranges of motion, the better your workouts, the better the potential for building muscle and strength, and the lower the risk of injury. It's just the fact. The more stability and security you just provide it.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's just a total fact. So look, if you want to work on your mobility and practice, here's something you could do. You can go to primeprowebinar.com, so free webinar. Adam actually takes you through mobility movements. Here's the challenge. Follow the class, it's free. Do what Adam tells you to do in the webinar. And then go squat.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And see if you feel any difference. If you feel zero difference, maybe it's an issue with your hip, with your joints. If you feel a difference, probably a mobility issue. And just because you can't squat down to the nine degrees doesn't mean that it's the hips that are causing that. That's just it. So the trainer that was arguing with me, I clicked on his page, of course, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:50 he's squatting with his feet externally rotated. So of course, that's why it offended him. He's a trainer and he's squatting this way and he has a squat shoes on. And so, I mean, for me, it's like very obvious that the limiting factor here is ankle mobility. I mean, you've got a heel rise and you're opening your feet out, which allows more knee travel. It's easier for your knees to travel further with the feet externally rotated. So it's a very obvious, this is not a hip thing going on here. This is like, if you were to dress your ankle mobility, and here's a thing, by the way,
Starting point is 01:03:23 I come from a place of being the person that didn't have that. It was fucked up, you know? So I get it. I know what it's like to not want to admit that, oh, I can't do that. You know, I can only go down a 90 because my hips, like, because I didn't have the hip mobility and the ankle mobility to do it either.
Starting point is 01:03:37 It just took a lot of work. So my thing is, and it's not saying, it's also not criticizing those that are, right now, that's the only way they can get squat to depth. So I would take a client, and if that's the only way they can squat to depth is the squat shoes, and then the external rotation. That's probably how I would squat,
Starting point is 01:03:57 while I'm also addressing mobility issues in their hip and their ankle at the same time. So it's okay that you use tools like this as long as you don't really, you don't just accept that, oh, I probably have these hips that are shaped this way. No, there's not that many people that have hips that don't allow you to go down with toes straight. To Justin's point, we should be challenging that.
Starting point is 01:04:17 We should be able to squat with our feet six inches apart from each other than super wide. Like most people's hips will allow that with their toes pointing straight, allow them to do that. If you work on the mobility and the strength and the control and those ranges of motion, it's just that we've neglected it for so long that it feels like most of us can't do that.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And that's not their reality. No, and it's funny, a trainer said that. I think the last lesson you learn in fitness, if you do it long enough, is you learn to check your ego and be okay with the fact that you suck at certain things and maybe the reason why you suck at certain things is because you didn't place a lot of time on them.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I know it feels like tough. Like if someone says to me like, why didn't you, you know, you're not good at this exercise. Part of me wants to be like, well, that's not my fault, you know, but you know, after a while you start to say well, yeah, it's because I'm not focusing on that, and that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 01:05:09 But these, what we're talking about, what we're saying is true, generally true. There are exceptions to the rule, but the vast majority of people who have to squat that way, it's not because your joints are built that way. It's because you just don't have the mobility, but this is good news because you can improve it. It's great because your joints are built that way. It's because you just don't have the mobility, but this is good news because you can improve it. It's great.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Next question is from Anne Healthy. Do you have any tips on how to balance hormones as a female when training load is near athlete levels? You know, somewhere along the lines of the fitness, we started to equate high-performance athletics or high-performance Adley as health. Yeah, it's really not it's not what you're looking at. It's extreme Well, it's because that's what the marketers use. Yes, all your big, you know brand Nike's
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah, all your fitness company is not yeah, yeah, exactly all these big brands they they use athletes to market health and fitness But the reality is they're not the greatest example. And by the way, same thing goes for the competitors on magazines, you know, the people that we choose to represent health and fitness are not the best examples of health and fitness. No, not even close. Studies are quite clear on this.
Starting point is 01:06:18 There's this kind of bell looking curve when it comes to exercise where a little bit does you some benefit, then you do more and you get way more benefit, then you do more and you get a little bit more benefit, then you do more and uh oh, now I'm starting to get negative effects in terms of longevity and health. And then the more I apply, the less benefit I get in terms of health and longevity. Now, my performance may increase beyond that, but in terms of health and longevity. Now my performance may increase beyond that, but in terms of longevity and overall health, I'm going to start to decline. This is the case
Starting point is 01:06:51 with high performance athletes. If you are a high performing athlete, if you compete in distance running or powerlifting or bodybuilding or gymnastics or football or jujitsu and you do it at a. This is your priority and you push yourself to very, very athletic levels. You are sacrificing health and longevity. You're sacrificing the health of your joints in some of these cases. You're sacrificing your hormone health in some of these cases. Definitely true for women. It is very common for female athletes to lose their period, or to have an irregular period, and to have imbalances between the progesterone and estrogen.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And it's because you're training at a very, very high level. So, here's the problem and the challenge. If you want to balance your hormones and you're training at athlete levels, the first thing you need to do is reduce your training volume. You got to compromise. You're going to have to reduce some of your performance for longevity and health. This is when just being honest with yourself, because there's nothing wrong with either
Starting point is 01:07:52 one. If you want to be at that super high level of athlete, understand it comes with its own consequences inside of it. Yeah, this was always a conundrum working with athletes. It's always like, how much, how can I find the best recovery? Can we do this HRV thing? Can I get in a cryo chamber? Like, you know, like all these like aggressive ways to intervene, you know, the recovery to speed up that process, get them right back on the field and going like balls to the wall, you know, out there. And it's like at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:08:23 like this is this is the decision that you have. You wanna be the best at this particular motivation, like this goal of mine is to be the best athlete I possibly can. And so I'm gonna go all in. I'm gonna use this intensity while I have it, but this isn't a long-term approach that is sustainable. Well, this is also where there's a misunderstanding
Starting point is 01:08:43 for the average weekend warrior that wants to train like an athlete too. There, this is also where there's a misunderstanding for the average weekend warrior that wants to train like an athlete too. There's this misunderstanding of how athletes truly train. A professional athlete, or at least a professional athlete that has a good coach and a good trainer, is training their athletes to peak. They're not just training like a superstar, year-round, weekend, week-out, so that you need to keep...
Starting point is 01:09:03 It's a total balancing game. It is. And what a good coach, a good coach is watching things like hormones, right? Hormones and stress and recovery. And they're not taking their athlete client to their limits until it's time, until I know it's almost game time.
Starting point is 01:09:21 It's we're getting ready for season. We're gonna prep the body, prep the body, prep the body, prep the body, okay, we're getting closer. We're just ramping up, ramping up, ramping up, ramping up. And then it's almost time for game time, right? Or season, whatever. And I want you at the max, and then season's there.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Now I'm gonna pull back on your training volume because now you have to perform on game day. And so there's a real fine dance of training like a real true athlete, but unfortunately, because of marketing, you know, you see like these cool athletes doing stuff on Instagram, where you have Nike promoting like shit. And you see stuff and you're like, oh, yeah, identify as an athlete. Yeah. And so you train you as a as a weekend warrior and average person, you want to train like this athlete. But the reality is we're only seeing a sliver of what goes into really training a high performance athlete.
Starting point is 01:10:08 So much of that is recovery and taking care of the body and leading up to this high performance. The best strength conditioning coaches out there are way more concerned with longevity and being able to keep their athletes healthy and injury free. to keep their athletes healthy and injury free. And those coaches, you know, like a Mike Boyle or somebody out there that are world renowned for keeping, you know, professional athletes the entire team the whole season, like they're still able to play. That's a huge thing.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Look at the Niders. We were talking about this in the beginning of the episode. Like what good does that do? Getting out on the field and one of the first games of the season, you get injured. That's the end right there. Yeah, the best trainers at that level are the ones that are the best at managing injury, prevention, and recovery.
Starting point is 01:10:54 They're not the best ones at pushing people to the extreme. That's the easy way to go. Just focus on pushing. Yeah, and you know, this is a, women are especially sensitive to this. Their bodies are especially sensitive to pushing super, super hard all the time and getting really, really lean. Like women with six pack abs,
Starting point is 01:11:13 like if you have visible six pack abs, you're pretty close to being too lean for optimal health. If not already being too lean for up, now men can do this because we tend to hold less body fat anyway. So it's, you know, if you're following So if you're following these people on Instagram and social media and you're like, wow, I want to look like that, there's a trade-off. There's always going to be a trade-off. And pushing to that level, your trade-off is your general health,
Starting point is 01:11:38 which means your hormones are going to be out. This happens to men too, by the way. Men who push really, really hard, you start to see testosterone levels start to drop and you start to see oxidative damage start to increase. And it never really works out well. If you're trying to have both, you got to pick one or the other and then manage the other one as best you can, but you can't have both. the extreme, crazy top level athlete training at those levels, and also have amazing balance in your health. In fact, the very nature of your training is imbalanced. There's nothing balanced about training. And be careful of saying things like,
Starting point is 01:12:14 oh, but I feel so good after I train like this, because that's the argument I think someone's making right now listening to you talk about. It's like, oh, but when I train this way, I feel so good afterwards. And we haven't talked about cortisol junkies in a long time and this is common. You get someone who trains that way
Starting point is 01:12:30 and they get this huge adrenaline rush afterwards and it feels amazing. You feel amazing and accomplish afterwards because your body's getting flooded with all that cortisol. Well, you can fall in love with feelings, right? And so there's a very different feeling from feeling balanced in your body, where you have good health, general health, good strength, relatively lean body fat percentage,
Starting point is 01:12:51 a healthy body fat percentage, decent mobility, good sleep. That feels a particular way. Then there's the feeling of high performance. And I understand why someone would fall in love with that. I've been at that level. I know what that feels like. It does feel awesome. I feel like I'm strong as hell. I feel like I have lots of like hyper energy. I could tackle the world. It's a different feeling.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Both of them feel different. Both of them feel good. You can fall in love with one and think, oh, this is what healthy feels like. Maybe not. In fact, oftentimes the feelings we fall in love with are the ones that aren't healthy. This is, by the way, this is what healthy feels like. Maybe not. In fact, oftentimes the feelings we fall in love with are the ones that aren't healthy. This is, by the way, this is one of the reasons why
Starting point is 01:13:29 certain exercises get a bad rap. You know, like squats and deadlifts. Oh, squatting and deadlift, isn't that how people blow out their discs? Well, when you're talking about, you know, extreme athletes squatting. You're only getting after it. Yeah, 700 pounds or 800 pounds or people, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:43 strength athletes who are pushing themselves to insane extreme levels that you never would. Yes, now you're talking about higher rates of injury and stuff like that, but for the average person, those exercises are not just safe, they reduce your risk of injury. So it is a bit of a balancing act, but I've trained many a female athlete with this problem,
Starting point is 01:14:04 and it was a conversation where I sat down with them and said, what do you want more? Do you like being 12% body fat more and being high performance? Or do you want to balance out your hormones, regain your fertility and your libido? Which one do you want more because we can't do both? And then once they decide, okay,
Starting point is 01:14:23 I wanna do the hormone thing. Literally, scale the workouts back, scale everything down. In essence, reduce their performance. In essence, reduce that extreme level of performance that they had, but then they get the hormones back, the fertility back and all that kind of stuff. Look, MindPump is recorded on videos as well as audio, so you can come watch us on YouTube if you want. MindPump Podcasts. You can also find come watch us on YouTube if you want. Mind pump podcast.
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