Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1401: How to Improve Your Overhead Press, Techniques to Eliminate Muscle Imbalances, the Value of a Post Workout Cool Down & More

Episode Date: October 14, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about getting better at the overhead press, how to fix an imbalance between lats, the best way to cool down after a worko...ut, and good shoes for squatting and deadlifting. Courteney is looking GOOD. (5:38) Jessica likes Sal THICCC. (9:03) Baby stories with Mind Pump. (11:54) Mind Pump Recommends, Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. (21:53) Sal’s Supplement Corner. (29:07) How distance learning does not favor the parents. (31:10) Swim lessons with the Schafer’s. (36:45) Mind Pump remanences on old 90’s commercials. (40:59) Wisdom versus knowledge. (44:43) Justin’s embracing his feminine side. (47:28) NCI Certifications x Mind Pump. (48:40) #Quah question #1 – What can you do to get better at the overhead press? (51:00) #Quah question #2 - How do I fix an imbalance between my left and right lats? (55:34) #Quah question #3 – What value does a cool down provide after a workout? What is the best way to cool down? (59:05) #Quah question #4 – Can you recommend a good shoe for squatting and deadlifting? Does it make a difference or would you bother? (1:04:08) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Special: MAPS Anabolic and No BS 6-Pack Formula Impact Theory | Igniting Human Potential Tom Bilyeu - YouTube Bret Weinstein on Ending Cancel Culture, Avoiding Civil War and How We Can Unify Agmatine Visit Dr. Squatch for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! *Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout for 20% off sitewide* Join the Revolution in Nutrition Coaching – NCI Certifications x Mind Pump Z Press to take Your Shoulder Development to the Next Level Mind Pump Prime Webinar Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Tom Bilyeu (@tombilyeu) Instagram Jason Phillips (@jasonphillipsisnutrition)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, we answer a lot of fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners and viewers just like you guys. How's it going? Now, in this this episode we open up with an introductory portions, 45 minutes long. So we talk about current events and mentioned studies. After that's when we answer the questions. By the way, if you want to fast forward to your favorite part, just go to mindpumppodcast.com. That's where we have everything time
Starting point is 00:00:39 stamped. But I recommend you listen from beginning to end. That's the way you should digest. Minds the way. Now we open up by talking about Justin's wife's crop top. Yes, that's how we open the episode. Yeah, that's how we did it. You'll want to hear that part. Then we talk about. Welcome, honey.
Starting point is 00:00:54 How excited I am because I got a baby coming any minute now, literally, any minute now. And so we start telling baby stories. Adam talked about the, when his wife went into labor a little over a year ago, so good stuff. Then we talked about the podcast that we watched on YouTube, Impact Theory. This is Conversations with Tom Billu.
Starting point is 00:01:12 He interviewed Brett Weinstein. Great episode. You guys should go check out Impact Theory, by the way. Tom interviews some really, really good people. Does a great job. Yeah, they get into it. Yeah, you learn some good stuff. So you can find actually Tom Billew's podcast
Starting point is 00:01:27 and these interviews. If you go to Impact Theory with Tom Billew, that's on Apple Podcast, Spotify, there's a lot of other podcast platforms. Or you can go on YouTube and just look up Tom Billew. That's Tom and then B-I-L-Y-E-U, great interviews, great podcasts. Then I talked about a supplement
Starting point is 00:01:46 I started messing with called Agmatine. So stay tuned, I'll give my full synopsis and coming episodes. We talked about homeschooling challenges or should I say, distance learning challenges. They're not homeschooled because they're still following the same curriculum. Big difference.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Then we talked about old 90s commercials, herbal lessons, remember that when the women would wash their hair and it was a little inappropriate. Which led us to talking about one of our new sponsors, Dr. Squatch, they make soaps and shampoos that make you smell good if you're a man. You smell like a man. My wife can't keep her hands off me now that I use Dr. Squatch soap on my armpits. So squat.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Other areas. By the way, because you listen to Mind Plum, you actually get a discount on all of the products. Just go to Dr. Squatch, that's DR-SQ-U-A-T-C-H.com-forge-mind-pump, and then use the code Mind Plum for 20% off. Then we talked about wisdom versus knowledge. What's the difference? Which let us to talk about online personal training certifications? Because if you want to be a really good trainer, knowledge is important,
Starting point is 00:02:51 but wisdom is more important. Now one company NCI focuses not just on knowledge, but how to apply it when you train your client. This is why this is the only certification for trainers we've ever partnered with. We've never partnered with another certification, but NCI. And because you listen to MindPump, you can get certified at tremendous discount. Just go to NCIcertifications.com forward slash MindPump. And then Justin talks about his little winner dog. And why I won't listen to him.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, give me your boy. Then we answered the questions. Here's the first question. What can you do to get better at the overhead press? So we talk about movements and exercises you can do to improve your overhead press strength. The next question, how do I fix an imbalance between my left and right lat?
Starting point is 00:03:41 So in that part of the episode, we talk about imbalances in general and how you develop muscles that seem to be lagging behind others. The next question, what does a cool down, what kind of value does that provide? Why should I do a cool down at the end of my workout? And the final question, this person wants to know, what are good shoes to squat or deadlift in? Also, maps and a ball, and the no BS 6 pack formula, two of our most popular programs, we have combined and we've slashed the price. You can actually get both of them lifetime access for Gingsu knives for $59.95. So normally if you enroll in maps and a ballock and the no BS 6 pack formula,
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Starting point is 00:05:33 and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Justine, tell me about Courtney's crop top. Like you see, keep seeing notes about that up on the screen. You haven't said anything about it. I'm very curious. I know. Like some of these, I don't get to them,
Starting point is 00:05:47 but it was just a funny kind of thing that happened at home. Like we have gear that every now and then Courtney is like, hey, why don't you grab me something from my pump? Why don't you go in the back and grab me something? I need something to work out in. And so there was like one of our tank tops, I think Rachel would come up with this design and it's like bright yellow.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And it's like, anyways, it's girls love it, whatever. And so she had this on and she's working out, she's coming upstairs. And both my kids went up to her and were like, mom, you just like put something else on. No way. She's showing too much skin, mom, you need to like put something else on. No way. You're showing too much skin, mom. Did they really like shabin' her?
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like, saints just like to sexy. That's so funny that you're seeing your boys with tinnus, so young. I know, and I was like, I don't know where they got that from or anything, but like they're a little, you know, church men with that. Protect them, maybe. Yeah, protect them.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Do you think kids, because they're young, right? You think that they just, they instinctually are like, wait a minute, more people are gonna look at my mom. I don't know, it's interesting, of course, you never wanna look at your mom in that life. And don't you remember, don't you remember the one kid in school who had the mom? Mom, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, what you remember that kid, I remember that kid in our school, you know, it's had this super hot mom and you teased the fuck out of him all the time. You did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it. It happened this early though, you know. You're walking on your mom when she's showering all the time. No.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah, you're totally, it's a high school. The kid that was always asking to come over. Yes, yes. Hey man, your mom makes great kids. When you're a kid, when you're a young boy, you do not want the hot mom. You're proud of that as an older, you get older like, oh man, my mom took care of herself,
Starting point is 00:07:24 like that's something you're proud of right like when you're later in your life But when you're a young boy growing up to a teenage boy. You don't want to have a milk mom. No It makes me wonder maybe one of his friends like right exactly. That's all it takes is one friend one time to make a comment like that And you like forever having and then you're like mom put on some clothes. Yeah Where longer sure? More kids over lately that want to stay. This makes me think. Oh, I hurt my knee.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Mrs. Andrews, can you kiss my boo-boo? No, Tommy, you're 18. You can take care of yourself. Kiss your own boo-boo. I screw you. That's hilarious. Did you guys have any teachers growing up? That were like, you thought were just
Starting point is 00:08:08 You did I just won miss Booey You said her name Wow, hey miss You missed the great opportunity Door to you Should have showed my true feelings. I had a French teacher. She was she's kind You mean, you know it? Yeah, I should've showed my true feelings. I had a French teacher. She was kind of hot, you know? And it's the only reason why I did okay in French class. I did not have a hot teacher,
Starting point is 00:08:32 but I remember that kid's mom, you know, Mrs. Crumb. You know, Justin Crumb's mom did everybody knew who she was. Oh my God. She came to all the football games, like all done up and stuff and everybody. She's sleeping up the crumb. Yeah, everybody likes her, dude. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, you don't want that, you don't want to be that, have that mom when you're a young boy. Yeah, I can totally see that. You don't mind if it's your wife though, huh? Yeah, you know, I just want to be the hot one. Yeah, the dad is proud, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, 100% of my friends. Speaking of which, right, dude yesterday,
Starting point is 00:09:03 I got a great compliment from Jessica. I was like, I was changing and she's like, you look thicker. It's like, wow. That's a great compliment coming from me. Yeah. The thickness. I love that.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Oh, especially when our insecurity is that we've been skinny our whole life. So, yeah, the thick compliments are great. So, your workouts work and you're looking. Oh, it's like, damn. Do your girls ever compliment you like that? Of course. Yeah, yeah, or my girl will tell me when I'm not, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:26 No, she doesn't. Yeah, absolutely. Why are you getting all lean right now? Why don't you put on some wet? She'd rather see me. Does she mean lean isn't like body fat lean or like smaller? Yeah, well smaller, right?
Starting point is 00:09:36 So I mean, if I stop lifting weights, I get skinny fat, right? That's what happens to me for sure. Right away. I lose size of my arms and my legs and I get a belly. Like that's just like my, that's my freaking genetics. Right away, I lose size of my arms and my legs and I get a belly. That's just like my freaking genetics. Thank you, mom and dad.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So she would prefer, she would rather see me, you know, 15 plus percent body fat, but a solid 225 to 30, then the 198 and 5% body fat. Same. This is why I struggled so much when we were doing that, like, transformation thing and the competition, all that, like- That's not why you struggled. Yeah, don't lie.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, he's such a... Yeah, it was so hard because my wife... He's like, yeah, she said that, so where's the motivation? I mean, like, why even bother? I just couldn't... That's a good one. Yeah, no, a good one. Yeah, no, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:27 It is funny, Jessica does like me better heavier than lean too. Even if I'm shredded, she likes it better when I'm... I think most women do. I actually think it's our own, I think it's guys, just like how women are probably more bigger critics with other women. Men are the same way too.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Like most dudes are in the gym complimenting each other and talking about each other's physique some more than women are talking about it. Most dudes think it looks great to be 5% body fat and jacked. There's only a small percentage of girls that are really attracted to that like overly jacked look. Shredding, yeah. Most girls are not.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And there's also the factor of your relationship and you're getting shredded, like they don't like that you're getting the tension. Oh, I don't wanna talk about that. Cause they look back at the pictures like, oh my god, I need to realize, but you realized you didn't like the fact that I was getting the tension.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, I think too, it's also sometimes, for men at least, if you're super shredded, it might be perceived as like, you think too. It's also sometimes it for men at least if you're super shredded It might be perceived as like you care too much, you know I mean spend too much time on how you look you spend too much time on worrying about and nobody wants to date that person Unless you're a fanatic too, and then which case you could both be dysfunctional together Narcissists, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but yeah, no Yeah, she likes it when I'm a little bit heavier, but I haven't like, she's never, I've never, I haven't been with her when I've gotten real heavy, so we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Because I've done that in the past. You should really press her. You get a baby a week away, so we'll see, you know, see if you put on that, that baby weight. Any, any minute now, actually, any, she, in fact, it just got a text from her, she came from the midwife appointment. And so last week, we had the midwife appointment and they said that the baby was,
Starting point is 00:12:07 wasn't in the right direction yet. Yeah, so like the baby's kind of sideways and what you want is you want the back facing out, right? You want the baby kind of facing your spine upside down. That's the best way. And so they told Jessica to get on all hands and knees for two times a day, 20 minutes because I guess the gravity helps the baby turn in the right direction. Jessica to get on all hands and knees for, you know, two times a day, 20 minutes,
Starting point is 00:12:26 because I guess the gravity helps the baby turn in the right direction. So she's been doing it and has been a little worried because if you, you know, you give birth naturally and the baby's back is facing your back, you can have a, it's a longer process. So I just got a text and she said that they said, baby's in the right position.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And the baby's dropping. Or good to go. And so guys are clear. Let's go. And she told her and she said that they said, babies in the right position, and the baby's dropping. Or good to go. And so, guys are clear. Let's go. And she told her, she said, tell your husband to blow up the tub or whatever, get the tub ready and make sure that's working. Oh wow, so you're going to have that all
Starting point is 00:12:53 blown up in the house now. So what's going to be like, that's going to make it feel a lot more real, right? Well, what I noticed is that with midwives, they're a big part of what they do is to keep you relaxed. Because natural childbirth, a lot of it is allowing your body to do his job, not freaking out, not being anxious, which is just make your body tense up,
Starting point is 00:13:13 make it much more difficult. And so they never say things like, oh, any day now it's coming, they're always like, well, we don't know. I think they keep you from anticipating 100%. So she's like, fill up the tub and just like, why? I'll just see if it's, there's no holes in it. It's secretly she's going, okay,
Starting point is 00:13:30 this shit could pop in the next four. That's what I'm thinking about. She's like, this could pop in the next 48 hours. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do a little caffeine fast because I'm gonna save that caffeine for what I need it. I want my body to be sensitive to it. Oh shit, she's pushing for 12 hours.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Dude, we were ready with anything. We didn't have a bag pack. We didn't have nothing ready, dude. I mean, we were a month early, so it was like. You know, yeah, totally didn't happen. I left a Range Rover in the emergency parking with the keys in it and running. We pulled up, we pulled up to the,
Starting point is 00:14:02 where the ambulance goes and drops off. Cause I flew up there, she was barefoot, she didn't have underwear on, she, we didn't have shit. We roll up and I jump out, jump out, ran in real quick. I need a wheelchair, I need a wheelchair, they come rushing over, they get in the wheelchair. And of course the natural instinct is not to leave your wife, right?
Starting point is 00:14:21 So I don't go like, oh see you later honey. As she's like, right, looks like she's about to have the kid right then. So I follow them up and then we're up there and I'm standing there for a second. They're like, sir, do you have the white range rover that's in the ambulance parking? I'm like, oh shit, yeah, I'm down there.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I go down, I left the doors open on it, the keys, it's running, it's running, and there's a valet. So it's a careless. Now, was she an active labor at that point? Was it early? Was she like, oh my gosh, this is real intense. No, we had it. We literally had the baby within two hours of getting there, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:52 So she basically skipped the early period. Well, remember we had the two false alarms that made us feel like we were amateurs because she went in, she went in two days early, remember the beach together? We're all the beach together. She had that whole scenario where she was like, uh, hun, I just went to the bathroom and my panties are soaked. So I don't know if I pissed myself right now
Starting point is 00:15:14 or in my water broke. I'm like, well, I got that. I can cause that. That happens to me all the time. No, I tell her I said, call the midwife, right? So she calls her, uh, Rada, where the dola, right? She calls her right away and she's like, um, you should go to the hospital. I know it's the midwife, right? So she calls her right away, the dualist, right? She calls her right away and she's like, you should go to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I know it's a month early, but you should go to the hospital. And we went there, they checked everything, they said, oh, false alarm, it's nothing. You're just, at that point, they are saying that the baby is growing so much that he can put pressure on the bladder and you can just, it's very common. You can watch yourself, you probably beat your pants, whatever. So okay, so we go back home.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Then later on that night, contraction start, and she thinks that, you know, we're like, okay, we already told that it's not coming for like a month, like they pretty much, and they are like that way, like, dude, until it's like an emergency, like the hospital sometimes is like lame, you know, they're just like, oh, another, here comes a new couple. They make you feel bad for it. They do. They make you feel bad for coming in because it's too early. And like, you know, yeah, it's not going to happen. It's the bubble blouse.
Starting point is 00:16:12 We're like, okay, so she starts having contractions. And, you know, we were thinking, okay, they told us she's not going to have a baby for four weeks. So they're probably braxton. Hicks, right? So you guys waited. Yes. And we sat and we waited and we, and then the Katrina looked at me and she's like, honey, these are so painful.
Starting point is 00:16:30 She's like, this is where, this is way, this can't be braxed and hex. She goes, I'm pretty sure I've already had braxed and hex. It doesn't feel anything like this. And so I'm like, well, you know, let's just see if it continues. And so then we started timing, just to see.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And we started timing and they were like five minutes apart and they got down to like four minutes apart and we're like, um, maybe we should go into the hospital again. So we go down the hospital again, they do the whole scenario with us, they check and they're like, no, it's probably Braxton Hicks. She's, you know, that's all it is. And they're basically telling her like, you know, yeah, I could pretty much be like this for the next three weeks. And so then we go back home again and she's looking at me and she's like, honey, I'm gonna have to do this for four weeks. She goes, I'm gonna need drugs.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I don't know if I could do this. And I'm just like, you're okay, you're okay. So we fell asleep that night, literally like this. So I had to labor the whole time. Yeah, so we're laying in bed. This is all night long. And I had the phone with the timer, with the little app that did the contractions.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And she's holding my hand, I'm holding her hand, and we're laying on there on the bed. And she would squeeze me, and it's what would wake me up, and then I would just automatically hit the button start. You know, so I hit the start button, and then she, and then I could feel her squeeze in my hand, and then in pain and stuff like that, and she'd go, okay, and then I'd stop it, and be like,
Starting point is 00:17:40 okay, and we were so we were tracking them all night long. And they were, they were starting to accelerate and I didn't wanna go with third time in three days and be told that we're a bunch of fucking rookies and don't know what we're doing. I'm like, okay, I know we're okay because the hospital's not far. So I'm like, we can push this all the way
Starting point is 00:17:59 to like two and a half minutes in between or whatever. So let's just keep seeing and they did. And finally when they hit about the two and a half, we go, okay, let's go back to the hospital. So this doesn't seem normal. On the way of walking down the stairs to go back to the hospital, water breaks when I'm behind her on the stairs. All over the place, I'm like, oh shit, it is here.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, so we didn't have a bag, we didn't have anything ready because they kept telling us that this ain't happening. Oh man, yeah. I am so excited right now. Just hearing that too is getting me excited, you know what I mean? Especially because my kids are older and now that my daughter's turning 11 soon
Starting point is 00:18:32 and I think back to when they were babies and I'm like, oh man, I wish I could go back in time. I see pictures of and now I get to do it again. You know what I mean? So I'm so pumped. It's gotta be a really cool experience for you to do this, right? Because such a still pops. It's gotta be a really cool experience for you to do this, right? Because it's such a different.
Starting point is 00:18:46 It's less common, right? There's not a lot of parents that have 10 year gaps with their kids, right? That's not that often. I don't think so. Right, so it's gotta be pretty neat. It's such a whirlwind the first time around that now I feel like, you know, doing it again,
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'm a total different state of awareness. I really hope that you have the awareness to share with us as you go through step-by-step things that you know you've done differently. I shared with you guys, I don't know if I did this on air or not, but I talked about like, so I had a lot of experience with my two younger siblings that have 10 years plus on me.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So I kinda got to be like a dad, even though it was a teenage boy, and obviously you don't know what the fuck I'm doing. But I did, I fed and changed and did all, and watched my baby brother and sister a lot. And I remember like, you know, when they would cry and they fuss and like trying to put them down sometimes, I'll frustrating that would get to like,
Starting point is 00:19:36 you know, and you get really irritated. And you know, at that time in my life, I'm not thinking about my feelings and the energy that he may be picking up from me and like how I'm handling it. I'm not thinking of any of that stuff, right? I'm just thinking about my feelings and the energy that he may be picking up from me and like how I'm handling it. I'm not thinking of any of that stuff, right? I'm just like mom told me. I'm like, yeah, I'm a kid, right?
Starting point is 00:19:49 And you just deal with it. Where now like I have such a different, I like, when he, before he goes to bed, like he kind of wrestles around with me and stuff like that, it's just part of his process after bath and then reading. And sometimes when I take him in his room and it's all black and it's time to put him down, he does that where he's like moving around my arms and I don't fight him. I just, I think of like what I've seen.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You just corral him, right? Yeah, I just corral him. I think of it like when you've ever seen like, you know, like when chimps are together and they have like a baby chimp in the mom's just kind of like keeping them in close, you know, letting them play and roll and fight and pull and do all this.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I don't fight any of it. I just let them do it. Isn't that weird? They have like doing a keto with them. Yeah, you know, letting them play, and roll, and fight, and pull, and do all this. I don't fight any of it, I just let them do it. Isn't that weird? They have like, they're like doing a keto with them. Yeah, isn't that weird? They have like this little bit of extra energy, they need to like, get out so closely. Yeah, and I feel like when you resist that so much,
Starting point is 00:20:35 you only make it worse, makes them cry, they get irritated, they get frustrated, then it's this battle, and then you get angry about it. Like, first of all, like now I have this older version of me that's doing this, and I'm just like, it's cute to me, and it. Like, first of all, now I have this older version of me that's doing this and I'm just like, it's cute to me and I let them do it and then before long, and it's weird, sometimes you'll fall asleep on his knees with his head between like my armpit
Starting point is 00:20:55 because that's just where he end up when he was tired. You know what I'm saying? I let him kind of roll around do his thing and then like next day I know he's like sleeping. There was a period of time for my daughter, I don't remember how long this period was, a few months or whatever, she just had to have a good cry before she went to bed,
Starting point is 00:21:09 just the way it was. She would get real fussy, and then she would cry, and then at some point, I'm like, I think she just needs to get this energy out. So I just let her cry and hold her, and then after about a minute or so, she'd get tired and fall asleep. Yeah, I wanna hear about the moments
Starting point is 00:21:21 that with your new child that you recognize that you did something different. Like, oh, I handled this different. I remember now this has brought me back to when I had my two older ones, like during this time, and I see how I'm different this time. I think that's interesting to me. I think being an older dad is,
Starting point is 00:21:39 I think that's a good thing. I really do. I think you're just wiser, you know what I mean? When you're young, you're just in the tornado. And you're like, I gotta make money. I gotta make sure things okay. And then when you're older, you're like, okay, it's all good. We'll be calm. Well, it's like that. We are just watching the Tom Bill use the the Brett Weinstein thing, right? Talking about great interview, right? Yeah, great show. Wasn't that good to him and him talking about like it's on his conversations with Tom Bill you on on YouTube I believe. I think that's what it's called, right? It's that what it's called, done. It's Impact Theory Channel. Yeah, it's Impact Theory.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But that is called Conversations with Tom. Yeah. I didn't know he was doing that where he was doing the one on one out of a studio or it's kind of like a, I like the way they set that up. Would you guys think of that conversation? He's really interesting. I didn't know anything about Brett Weinstein. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've heard Brett Weinstein on Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, it was an interesting conversation. I wanted them to get a little bit further into the actual conflict of, you know, both parties. Like, I mean, the title of it wasn't like something about, so we going into Civil War. You know, it was a very provocative title and I feel like, you know, that, like what they were saying in that conversation was really deep and it's definitely thought provoking, but that tied on, like, let's get to this. Why don't they start to get to it? They did indirectly, I thought it was really good. I was alluding to right now with the whole child
Starting point is 00:22:55 throwing a tantrum, how that's their natural way to try and get of attention. And they kind of tied that into our culture today and how we're allowing that type of behavior to be rewarded. And I thought that was a really interesting take on that and to draw it back to our natural instincts as kids to do that to get our way. And anyone who's a parent knows that that's not the way to be successful as a kid. And we seem to be rewarding in adults.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Right. So I thought that was really, really fascinating. It is. It was a great conversation. I think the thing, the important thing to understand here that's happened over the last, I don't know, 10, maybe 15 years is that we stopped thinking that the other side was wrong. And now we think that the other side is evil.
Starting point is 00:23:43 That's very different. If I'm debating, you know, Adam, for example, on a subject, now I know you, right? I know Adam and I know Justin, and I know you guys are not evil people. But let's say we're debating a topic, and you have a complete, you both have completely different opinions for me. I'm gonna debate the idea, but you're not an evil person.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I know that your intentions may be good. Even if I think you're, the idea, but you're not an evil person. I know that your intentions may be good. Even if I think you're the idea you have is wrong and it's not going to work, I know your intentions are good. So now we can have a discussion. There's a level of civility there still. There is. Now if I'm talking to an evil person, right? So if Hitler, all of a sudden, comes to life
Starting point is 00:24:21 and he's sitting across from me, I'm not going to debate Hitler. I'm going to want to beat him up. You're an evil berate him. You're an evil person. So that's the big problem is that people on the left think that the people on the right are evil, people on the right think that people on the left are evil, but the reality is and then everybody in the middle, you know, why aren't you picking a side? You're evil. Yeah. And the reality is both the majority of people on both sides want the right thing. They want people to be better off.
Starting point is 00:24:50 They want to help other people. They want to help their families. Some on some subjects, maybe one side is right. On other subjects, maybe the other side is right. But for the most part, most people are not evil. Like nobody's voting for someone because they are evil and they want bad things. Well, he makes the case in that conversation, right, that it's their necessary.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It's a necessary evil to have both opposing sides like that. That's what makes America so great. Did you guys, so I know you guys didn't watch the full VP debate, but actually that, that was the last question from the kid, right? So the kid, an eighth grader writes in and says that all I see on TV is this anger and animosity towards you and this division. And I really, I thought Mike Pence did a really good job of responding to that. Like he, I thought he came, like reminded this kid that,
Starting point is 00:25:32 oh, don't believe everything that you see on television. And that was where he actually complimented Kamala Harris. And they talked about like, this is what makes our country so great. Is that we do have very opposing sides and we challenge each other hard. He went into great detail to share that. That's the problem I think is we live in this Twitter world and 15-second sound bite world and a bunch of idiots that hear that stuff and they take that and they run with that. First is recognizing that they're both necessary evils.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They both have value, and that's what has brought us into this beautiful country that we all live in. And it's not something that we need to be, like I don't think it's as bad as we make it out to be. I think it's the tabloids. It's way easier to burn everything down. Then to have hard conversations
Starting point is 00:26:18 and to actually work your way together to build something that's different. It's just, it's just most people are not evil people. Go find somebody with opposing views from you and talk to them, not about their views, but talk to them about their lives. And you'll find, you'll find. You'll find, you'll find most people,
Starting point is 00:26:35 they just want what's best for their kids, they care about the well-being of other people, they wanna do well themselves. Another thing I really like, I really like that interview with Wantsuit. I've never heard anyone explain the left and the right, the way the difference is in that, but the great value of both of them,
Starting point is 00:26:50 the way the left looks more as the collection of the compassion, collective compassion. Yeah, collective compassion and moving all of us collectively in a better direction, which that's the place where most of them come from. If I would think most liberals think of themselves that way. And then the right is more just, that's the place where most of them come from. I would think most liberals think of themselves that way. And then the right is more just, they think that the way to get there
Starting point is 00:27:08 is through individual, personal responsibility. Yeah, personal responsibility. So I thought that was really interesting. And I thought that was a great point. And I think it was a great point for a lot of people to listen to at this time. Well, there's a conversation that hasn't been had
Starting point is 00:27:20 in a little while, which I think is this, is that whatever our, if we have this free system, where people can kind of do what they want, buy what they want, so long as they don't hurt other people, or steal, or that kind of stuff, that's great, but you also need a society that's otherwise moral and has good ethics for that to also work. So that's the weakness in any system,
Starting point is 00:27:44 but you need to have good, for example, if you look at the fitness space, right? The fitness space, it will provide the products and services that people pay for. So if all people want our fat burning pills that promise to make you lose 30 pounds in 30 days, if all people want our aesthetic driven programs and insecure driven marketing, then that's what
Starting point is 00:28:07 the fitness space is going to push forward. We not only want, I don't want the fitness space, for example, to get regulated, but I want it to remain free, but I want people to want things that are healthy and good for them, because then that's what we'll get produced. That's the conversation I think a lot of people aren't having. We're kind of missing out on, I mean, imagine if all the collective desire for, I don't know, distraction, right? So many people want to be distracted. Imagine if everybody, instead of being distracted, wanted to learn and grow, how much of that, all those resources will get dedicated towards growth instead.
Starting point is 00:28:45 You know, I'm saying, so I think that's a big thing. But it was, it was a good interview. I really appreciate, I think Billy is doing a great job on his channel. He's got some really, really good guests going on. Decay, it blows my mind how much he's doing, dude. I can't keep it. I thought that like we drown a lot of people with content. Like it's almost impossible. He's a machine.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Speaking of supplements, I've been experimenting with supplements. It's been around for a little while. No sponsorships with a company that provides us or anything, but just thought I'd bring it up. Have you guys heard of Agmatine before? No, not from my. Very interesting compound. I believe it's related to Argonine,
Starting point is 00:29:24 but it does, when you take it, it lowers your perception of pain. It's got synergistic properties with pain killers. So this is why medicine is interested in it. It's actually an effective, nitric oxide booster. And you take it with a stimulant and you get a little bit more of a stimulant kind of effect.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So I experimented with this about, I don't know, five years ago, bought some more just to see what would happen. Oh yeah, it's legit, man. You definitely work out and you find yourself pushing a little harder because the perception of pain a little lower. Interesting. A very interesting supplement. Yeah, it's not, it's not a classic stimulant.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I wonder what that would be like with paired with something like cratum that works with that. Like that's, oh, it's so it'sgistic with with things that work with the opiate receptors That's why I'm wondering how now here's the thing now. I'm real quick caution here synergistic sometimes it means it amplifies So you might get also negative effects from more negative effects from something like cratum So I don't want to recommend recommend people come out of this I spent around for a while, but I was at the vitamin shop the other day, it's like a GNC, right?
Starting point is 00:30:29 And I still like to walk through there and see. That's so funny we drove by one yesterday, and I told him, is that always been there? And she's like, yeah, I'm like, I can't believe those things are still in business. It's funny, I have a problem. I'll go into one of those,
Starting point is 00:30:39 and it's interesting to hear their advice in terms of, it's all COVID related. They're always trying to pump you up with like vitamin C, vitamin D, you know, this at the other meeting. I'm like, wow, I guess is the direction. I like to go through because you guys know I have a bit of a supplement problem,
Starting point is 00:30:55 but I also like to look at the back to the bottles to see, okay, what are they putting in? What are they trying to promote? And that kept seeing this pop up in some supplements. It's so interesting. I remember reading about a long time ago, did a little bit more research on it. Let me try to sound to see what happens.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Dude, how's the distance learning going with your kids? I have a bit of a story with this so far. It's been really rough. Dude. And I kind of have come to conclude that the way this is set up is just not in parents' favor at all. And really it's a power structure. Because if you think about it,
Starting point is 00:31:26 you're implementing this curriculum from a teacher who's the authority, but you're just basically the manager in the situation that's trying to make sure that everybody's, you're like the task master. And so this is where, I know Courtney's struggling with this quite a bit in terms of them,
Starting point is 00:31:44 you know, like having outbursts, So this is where I know Courtney's struggling with this quite a bit in terms of them, having outbursts and frustration all directed at her, but then trying to do all this stuff virtually to appease the teacher. So my solution to this, which I was really trying to think about this because it's frustrating for everybody involved was to kind of bring in another element of the power dynamic. So bringing myself into this is an evaluation process.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So daily, weekly, the total, like how basically they were behaving in terms of they got up on time, if they're dressed, if their attitude is good, if they're listening well, they completed their homework, how good the homework was, I had to have all these qualifications to then evaluate, so that way, now it's like,
Starting point is 00:32:35 okay, we actually have to take this seriously, because that's the biggest problem is they're not taking it seriously. That's a really smart actually recommendation. Are you doing, they're not taking it seriously. That's a rule. That's a really smart actually recommendation. Are you doing like some sort of like a chart with like stars on it or doing some sort of a reward just like?
Starting point is 00:32:51 Every production meetings with your kids. Yeah, it feels like that. That's actually really fucking smart. Now what I know that's a big challenge right now for a lot of parents. Bro it's huge, you have no idea, I've talked to so many parents. Are you, now what do you do if they don't?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Like let's say they don't do something do they get punishment? Yeah, negative. So here's the thing They get a score from one to six based off of these qualifiers like of what I'm evaluating and so then core I leave it the court need to you know Give them sort of a score on that and then I review it with them when I get home and You know that I haven't actually got to a point where I did a full week yet. So what basically is is like take something away. Yes, give screen time. Gift or take away. Yeah. And so then, you know, and of course the gifts are going to be real small things or
Starting point is 00:33:37 whatever, like little winds like, yeah, whether it's electronics, whether it's, you know, a little Lego toy or whatever it is, you know, like having a friend over to stay over. That's a brilliant idea to do. Dude, it's so challenging. I talked to parents. So, you know, there's a huge like ADD problem, right? Like children have been medicated more and more because they can't sit still.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And my personal belief is I don't, I definitely think that there are, that ADD exists, but I also think that the way the system is designed is some people are just, they do better when they move around, they don't do so well sitting still. I'm one of those people. And so I don't necessarily think,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and also I think there are factors that can contribute to that poor diet, unstable home, is how we're teaching maybe influencing that. So I have parents who have kids who were borderline ran bunk shifts or whatever, not necessarily EDD, never been diagnosed, but now they're thinking their kids have ADD. And I'm like, well, it's because your kid now
Starting point is 00:34:34 is sitting in a chair looking at a 2D image all day. Now they're sitting in, and not only before they were in a classroom, which was challenging for them. Now they're in front of a computer, they're in fourth grade. What do you think, so I imagine that this is probably, going up, I'm wondering if more kids
Starting point is 00:34:52 are putting on meds because of this distance learning. And really, if it was just about homeschooling, at least then you can determine your own hours. So your own environment, them having to log in at that early morning time and be on there and check in and be forced to subscribe to this regimen is way less empowering to the parents. Here's my personal, so I'm blessed in this regard. My, both of my kids have always done really well in school.
Starting point is 00:35:24 My daughter has always loved school. Like, looks forward to waking up for school, looks forward to going to school the next day. She's very, like if she gets a project and it's due Friday, she's doing it Monday, she does it way in advance. Like, never had to worry. First time ever in my daughter's life is she not like school, ever.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Never comes out of her mouth. She still does well. She's very responsible. I still don't I don't have to like be on top of her, but I've never heard my daughter ever say, oh, I gotta go to school tomorrow. Oh, I gotta she hates it because of the the way and she's in a pod. She's not even by herself. She's with three other girls. She's like my son. He does well. I never have to be on top of them, but I tell you you dude, the kid from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m., he's in front of his computer, not moving. When I come home from work, I pull him out of his room,
Starting point is 00:36:13 I have to drag him outside, and he literally, he looks like someone that's been chained in their basement for years. He's just not motivated to go outside anymore. He's pale, he's just, hey, what's up? Listen, we're gonna go for a walk. And the pod thing is difficult too, man, because you get all these crazy parents
Starting point is 00:36:30 that are like, they wanna keep their kid in a bubble because they're afraid of everything. Oh, dude, I just can't deal with it. I can't deal with people. I know, so I don't know, Matt, but it's a very challenging time, I think, for a lot of parents. Yeah, it's been a challenge.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I took Max to swim lessons and I kind of had a feeling like it wasn't going to go very well. Wait, how old is he? He's one, right? One half? Yeah, that's young. Yeah, it's young, for sure. And really, it was, so really this has a lot to do
Starting point is 00:36:58 with getting Katrina comfortable. So one of the other things that we're not probably see eye to eye is, I was already dunking him in the in the bath like way long ago, you know, and I had to do it when she like leaves the room because she would freak the fuck out. Like she just, he's a baby. What are you doing? You think he's gonna be traumatized? Like I'm trying to drown him or something. I'm like, no, it's not. Let's do the thing where you're blowing his face. Yeah, but I'm on his face and naturally close their mouth and they in there and I and I let I used to let him really early on when he could barely
Starting point is 00:37:28 even crawl, like kind of move around the bathtub, let him go fall and slip and go under a little bit. And then I'd pick him back up and then make sure not a big deal. Yeah. Right, you know, kids are not gonna fucking drown when I'm in the bathtub with him, right? So I'm not worried about that. And so now we're moving into the pool and like we're doing
Starting point is 00:37:42 pool time and like I, I want to be a little more Aggressive with them and allow them to kind of let them go let them try to kick it naturally kids will do that like you see I don't know if you've ever seen like videos of those videos of infants or yeah Before they can turn up before they can crawl a lot of times can learn to swim and swim to get to their head atop So I know this and I've had younger siblings and I've been in polls my whole life And so, you know, I'm trying to get Katrina to be more comfortable with kind of stretching him a little bit and let, so he, because I want him to learn how to swim really early.
Starting point is 00:38:12 So we don't have to worry about when we're around polls and shit like that him falling in. So a lot of this truthfully is to get her comfortable so you can hear a fucking person that is a teacher for this, say all the same goddamn things I've been saying, right? So this is Katrina Pull Lesson. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Secretly. I'm giving it up now to get them. I'm sure she'll listen, right? So, yeah. So, okay. Anyway, so I'm like, I already know he's, he's at a place where he won't like go of me, right? And then on top of that, like, kids, totally new place.
Starting point is 00:38:40 There's lots of stuff going on. It's loud and all kinds of people and kids jumping in pools splashing and here comes me with my son, I gotta wear a mask, which I don't wear a mask around him at heartily at all. So he doesn't really see that on my face, I'm wearing a mask around, the instructor's got a big fucking face shield on, old ladies never seen before. It's kind of a scary environment.
Starting point is 00:38:59 No shit dude. And then we wonder why he won't fucking let go of me, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm not. Yeah, like, I already look, like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's not enough. Yeah. Like, I already look like, when I put the mask on before we went in and I'm carrying him, he kind of gave me this like sideways look like, what the fuck is that doing here? Right.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So, right. And then I'm in a pool with it and then, so it was like disaster as far as like any sort of success with it. I mean, it was good because the pool they keep it at 91 and so every time I've taken them in a pool before, it's been really cold and that seems to be bothering him more than anything else than more than fear. So yeah, we'll see how it, what we do to progress this, but I told Katrina already, I'll do it again for you and we'll do a group one, try that, but it's important. Swimming lessons are super important, especially if you live near a pool. I mean, we did that with my kids when they were really young
Starting point is 00:39:46 because we had a pool and that's the safest thing you could do is have your kids learn how to swim. And you can put up a gate, you can do all that stuff. Safety, I do the same thing with gun safety. So like yesterday I took my son for the first time, by the way, he fired a handgun, so he's 15, so I took him to the range and he was able, I brought my revolver and he was able to do it, but before that, I go through all the gun safety.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You know, treat everything like it's loaded. Here's how you open it. This is how you hold it, never put your hand here. And because if you have the responsibility, if you have a gun, your people in the house should know gun safety and know what to handle it, because most of the accidents that happen are accidents
Starting point is 00:40:26 We're not someone doing it on purpose Not to mention if there was an intruder when you weren't home and your 15 year old son is the only one there You want him to be able to protect himself too if you absolutely add to yeah, yeah, not yet until when he's really proficient Yeah, it's because otherwise you'll He'll pull it out and the burglar just grab it from him. Yeah I mean that's how it starts so you get to teach him at one point, you know what I'm saying? Or if you wait till he's 20 something for you, I just started.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I've seen those statistics though. Yeah, it's always better to educate and have them like handle the gun versus like them just, you know, sort of be afraid of it. Totally, totally. Hey, I was speaking to my son. So we sometimes him and I go on YouTube and we'll show each other funny things.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And I was looking up like nostalgic 90s commercials. Do you guys remember herbal essence shampoo commercials? Do we? Do you? Yeah, it's like the most like orgasmic moan. You know, my son's like, what the fuck? He had never seen him before. No, I mean, they don't do those anymore, do they?
Starting point is 00:41:21 No. So for people who don't know, it was a shampoo commercial. I do not know those. And the woman was super famous. Washing her hair is moaning like she's orgasming. So my kids like, this is a commercial. It was effective, they sold the shit. Actually, that would, I mean, herbal essence may be, we may be able to credit them
Starting point is 00:41:38 for doing the first bit of like really edgy type of advertising like that. They were one of the first companies to kind of push those limits, at least that I remember. Every girl I know, you could smell it in their hair because it was like a very floral kind of a smell. It's just like, but anyways, that was one of those things too.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Like I wasn't talking to them about that, but what brings to mind that kind of a thing was that, like Courtney has certain shampoos that we have. We all kind of use her shampoos and she's just sick of it, whatever. So I finally got my hands on some of the Dr. Squatch version because I've had this soap, but they actually have the shampoos too in conditioner.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And so I brought those home and I'm using them like, oh, good, and I'm like kind of joking. I finally, I can smell like a man. And the kids heard like talking about that. Oh, no. And so they like stole it from me. And I'm like, where'd it go? They're like downstairs like put it,
Starting point is 00:42:30 they're all like, you know, super proud that they're smell like a man now. I wonder if they think it's gonna make them stronger or something like that. Yeah, exactly, right. Like I know I have no hair, but I use it on top of my head all the time because of the tea tree oil.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It's good for the side. Yeah, it's for the dry skin, fuck off guys. For the, I mean, I have my sorice spots that I have on my head and it's how, it's how for what keeps you. Teatree oil is good for a dandruff too. Yeah, it's good. Did you guys use their toothpaste yet? I haven't used it.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I just literally put it in my bathroom last night. I'll use it. They have a day time in a nighttime. Yeah, so the day time one has got Jinxing vitamin B12 and I can't remember. There's a mineral in a nighttime. Yeah, so the daytime one has got ginseng vitamin B12, and I can't remember, there's a mineral in there that's very similar to tooth and an amul. Apparently if you brush your teeth with it,
Starting point is 00:43:11 it can help strengthen teeth and even heal cavities, by the way, as a thing. What smart marketing. Yeah, and then, you know, morning and then the night one. Well, the ingredients are legit. The evening ones got Valerian, Camamil, and Saulple Meadow, which for a man, Saulple Meadow's a natural DHT receptor blocker, which is good for hair loss, actually.
Starting point is 00:43:33 In fact, that's why he's a Saulple Meadow shampoo. Thanks for pointing out. Yeah, I put right into the game, but I put right into the game. I don't think that's it. Okay, so I'm unaware. So, I'm aware. Absolutely. Hey, I started doing, do you guys remember when I used to do
Starting point is 00:43:44 my egg yolk shakes in the morning. Yeah, I started doing You put in there like six or eight? It's between six to ten. Yeah, so and this is a disc. This maybe why Just like looking thick. So you think boy with a bunch of seas. Yeah, dude So here's a disclaimer. Yes, if you put raw eggs in your shake, you could run the risk of Yes, yes, it's a tiny risk, okay, but it's raw eggs in your shake, you could run the risk of... Sound nila. Yes, it's a tiny risk, okay? But it's your own, take your own risk, you know, risk,
Starting point is 00:44:09 and it's up to you. But when I do this... More importantly, you'll feel like Rocky. Yeah, when I... Yes. Hey, listen, you can cook your eggs too if you want. When I do this, when I have my, you know, six to 10 egg yolks in the morning, legit, if I do this for like a two week period, I will get stronger
Starting point is 00:44:26 every time. It is the most effective supplement ever is bumping your cholesterol, having them a.g.o.ks, and then watch what happens. I know you swear. You really contrary to, yeah, people being afraid, yeah, of cholesterol. Too much fat cholesterol. Yeah, don't eat it. Anyway, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I was having a conversation with my aunt the other day. So I have an aunt that is, I love her because her and I will, we've always been, we've always debated each other. When I was younger, it was more like arguments because she was closer to my age. But now that I'm older, we have these wonderful discussions about anything, any topic, and I love her because even if we, do you have many different perspectives or views on things? Sometimes, although most of them now are very similar, sometimes we have differing opinions.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And so we were having a conversation about the impact of the internet. And I'll remember a long time ago, I had this huge debate with her of the internet. And I said, this is wonderful. You know, it's gonna give humans access to like all the information in the world. And this is going to be something I think. And I remember she's like, that's not necessarily a good thing. We got this big debate. Well, anyway, I had a conversation about it with her again. And I said, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:36 you were right. I just didn't understand it because I was younger back then. She said, what do you mean? I said, you know, we do have access to all this information. And I can safely say people now have more knowledge than they've ever had, especially younger people. They know way more facts and knowledge than ever because it's just there whenever they want to look it up. But we lack wisdom. That doesn't give you wisdom, right? Not listening to the right people.
Starting point is 00:46:02 No, and so then he was, check this out, right? So we're talking about this in a dawn on me. If you think of like a, like as you grow up as a human, right, you're a, you're a baby, then you're a child, you know, toddler, then you're, you know, adolescence teenager 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond, when you're a teenager and I'm seeing this with my son, when you're a teenager, that's the first time where you actually know stuff, like you really know stuff, like my know stuff like my sons 15 He's a smart kid He'll sit there and he'll debate things with me and he's got facts and knowledge
Starting point is 00:46:31 But he comes to stupid conclusions because he lacks wisdom I told him this the other day. I said you know things. It's true But you lack experience so all you have is knowledge and you have no wisdom So it was a great discussion that I had with my aunt. Does that resonate with him yet? Or it's like, just piss him off. Yeah, it's just angry. It pisses him off, but luckily he tries to be objective.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And what's funny is that he was telling me how logic is so much better than emotion. This was great conversation. Go full spark. Oh, dude, he saw my son. It's so ridiculous. It's annoying too. He's like, logic is better than emotion. Emotion is not good. And he is. He's that's exactly how
Starting point is 00:47:08 he is. He Jessica says his emotional range is between a two and a four. Like, there's him going. You know, below or above that or whatever. And they said, well, emotions part of what makes this human. And so then as we're going, he starts to get angry. And he starts to be logical about his anger. I like you just be emotional, buddy. It was really good. Speaking of expressing your feminine side. Yeah, it's funny. When I got our little weiner dog, I knew, right, because I have this crazy beast
Starting point is 00:47:38 of another dog that's like, my whole plan with him was to get good training and everything was chaotic and then harnessing that in and maintaining control. Like my little dog's been really easy, but at the same time, it's been difficult for me because there's certain things that I have to do differently with this little dog than I did training the big dog.
Starting point is 00:48:00 So the little dog, I have to be extremely happy and like, whoo, who to be like extremely happy and like, whoo, whoo, whoo. Like after like, he will not come to me. Like he won't recall to me unless I have like this really high effeminate voice. And it's really masculine. So that was when you get a chick dog, bro. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:18 That's where they come from. I seriously didn't even like consider that, but I was like out at the dog part with my friend. And like he was, he was running off, and I'm like, Finn, get over Finn, calm! And of course, he looks back and then I'm like, Finn! What? It just starts running right to me.
Starting point is 00:48:35 No! He's so cute, dude. He's the cutest. I can't handle it. Speaking of training, still getting great messages from people going through the NCI certificate. I just spoke about wisdom and knowledge. Yeah, that's what they do well. That's it, just hit me right now.
Starting point is 00:48:49 They try to take the knowledge of coaching online, but apply it through wisdom, which means, okay, it's great, you know all this stuff. How do you coach people? Like how do you communicate it to clients? That's a big part of their process. And so I'm getting good messages from our friends.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I actually had a really good call with Jason yesterday and just talking about the future of our partnership. And he was just kind of asking my feedback because we're coming up on a year that we've been working together. And he's asking some of the things that I thought that they could do to help support our audience. And I said moving in a direction where I said, I think obviously with this pandemic, I said, it's accelerated this. I thought we were moving this direction anyways. But many trainers are, you know, moving away from training a lot in person and more virtual and trying to figure out how to do how to make that transition, how to scale that business. I said, I think you have a lot
Starting point is 00:49:40 of wisdom around that. You've coached a lot of other coaches. And I said, and you guys offer a platform that is great for educating many of other coaches. And I said, and you guys offer a platform that is great for educating many of these trainers. So I think more things, more either free content that's around it, or even paid content that you guys create around that. I think we'd probably want to be one of the best things that we do in 2021.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And he was pretty pumped about it. We got a call again today to kind of follow up and probably start putting some of that stuff in motion. Yeah, one of the biggest questions I get from trainer, because one thing I love about trainers is that what makes them trainers is that they really want to help people. It's like the number one driver care about people.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah, and one of the big questions I get is how do I provide as much value virtually as I can in person? And that is a big challenge. That's a big challenge to be met. But I think there are, you just have to change the way you approach things. It's a completely different, there are different obstacles, but I think it's possible.
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Starting point is 00:50:51 That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from ZT-Rone32. What can you do to get better at the overhead press? The Z press. Oh, the Z press is great. The Z press is great. The Z press and just start with lightweight,
Starting point is 00:51:13 if you have to, like, you know, real, real, just the bar, you know. Did I got one for you? Because okay, so aside from pressing more often in practicing different rep ranges and doing different versions of presses, kettlebells, dumbbell presses, kettlebells, dumbbells, barbells.
Starting point is 00:51:27 The one thing that I ever did that gave me the biggest immediate impact were overhead carries. It gave me right away I saw an improvement in my overhead presses from doing different versions of carries, either the ones where I have a really heavy kettlebell racked on one side or both arms and maintaining tension and carrying or especially pressing kettlebells dumbbells or something up above my head and then walking just holding that top position, that tension. I saw like a 10 pound increase in my, and I'm talking about this is way later in my lifting career when adding five pounds is a big deal. I saw my lift go up 10 pounds. Like the first thing was like two
Starting point is 00:52:09 weeks after I started doing overhead carries. Yeah, I had this very similar experience with that. And really it was about being able to stabilize in that top position. I think is so crucial. And again, that's addressed with the Z-Press. Like you really have to put the work in in terms of how you're bracing and how everything is holding in things in place for that to occur. And so, you know, to hold something overhead and really train yourself to hold that
Starting point is 00:52:35 for a period of time helps tremendously with that. But you gotta think of the overall joint of the shoulder. And so this is why again, here's my button that I'm always hammering is rotation. And so for me, the biggest unlocking factor to success with overhead press for me was really starting to work more into that natural rotation that my shoulder wants to get through and then add little bits of resistance to that, which people don't understand that you can add little bits of resistance and strengthen the rotators and do it in a safe and effective manner where
Starting point is 00:53:11 all of that pours right back into the overall strength and stability and support. Totally. A huge limiting factor for a lot of people with an overhead presses or mobility issues. So, you know, and I've seen this with clients and I've seen this even with myself because when I first started working out, I did a lot of bodybuilding type movements and I wasn't focusing a lot on full range of motion. And here's how you know, right?
Starting point is 00:53:34 So you could do something like a wall test. And I know we did a wall test in our maps prime webinar.com. And if you do a wall test and you find that difficult, what you run into when you do an overhead press with a barbell or dumbbells is you have resistance from your own body. So you actually see this sometimes, you can take someone, even with a lot of muscle, have them straighten their arm up above their head, but also have them straighten out their spine, maintain good posture. And without any weight, they find difficulty keeping
Starting point is 00:54:01 their arm in that position. That's resistance that is happening to your arm and your shoulder without you actually holding away. So you are lifting, let's say, 10 pounds less than you can because of this internal lack of stability and mobility. So stability and mobility make a huge difference for a lot of people. In fact, even simple like like, external rotation exercises, like rotator cuff exercises, they know the ones
Starting point is 00:54:27 that the physical therapist will give you, where you grab the bands and you externally rotate, that type of stuff. Even something like that, sometimes you'll see someone practice that, and they'll overhead press, they'll go up five or 10 pounds, because the limiting factor was that their stability wasn't good, that they had poor mobility,
Starting point is 00:54:43 and that's more, some exercises, it's more common than others. The ability provides more force production. Totally. And I think it was shoulders that it's 99% of the time. Oh yeah, it's very rare that when someone asks a question like this that has anything else to do, it's not the lack of certain exercise you're doing, it's not anything more than that.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Most people are very uncomfortable with a full extension above their head, with their shoulder in the right position, exercises like Z-Press, I think are incredible, that a good movement to start before you go into that, Retro Lift. Like so I love Retro Lift to kind of prime before you go into one of these movements that were, and then if you do Retro Lift,
Starting point is 00:55:24 the overhead carries the Z-press, and then like Justin's Arnold press with kettlebells or whatever, those movements phenomenal for that. Absolutely. Next question is from Cat L. S. How do I fix an imbalance between my left and right lats? Same way you would work on an imbalance
Starting point is 00:55:43 with any right to left muscle, which is to place more emphasis on the weaker, smaller side. Now here's the challenge with this. The challenge is, and I know, because I ran into this too, as a younger lifter, you're afraid you're going to slow down your gains because you're focusing on the weaker side. You're not. The bigger side isn't going to shrink to match the smaller side. It's just that you're going to get the smaller side to speed up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:11 One way you can do this, and I remember Adam bringing this up on the podcast a long time ago, as a physique competitor, this is something he had to focus heavily on because he was getting judged by his physique on stage, was to do unilateral exercises, so one arm or one legate exercises, right? So in this case it'd be one arm and then allow the weaker side to dictate the weight and the reps. So if I'm doing like a one arm row or one arm pull down with perfect form and the most I can do is a hundred pounds for you know twelve reps with my weaker side that's what I'm going to do with my stronger side even if I could do more 12 reps with my weaker side, that's what I'm going to do with my stronger
Starting point is 00:56:45 side. Even if I could do more than that with the stronger side, I'm going to stop there. So it's the weaker side that's dictating the sets and the reps. And then what'll happen, you'll find by doing it this way, is it actually catches up? It actually does catch up pretty quickly, you know, to do it this way. So exercises. Rose, you said lap. I mean, literally almost everything that you would do with both your hands, you could do by yourself. So a seated single arm row, a lap pull down, single arm row, a dumbbell row, a hammer strength. I mean, all those, there's tons of exercises that you can do, almost anything that you could do with a barbell that you would do for your back, you could do with single arm
Starting point is 00:57:23 with a barbell that you would do for your back, you could do with single arm with a dumbbell. And so this is a perfect time to make your routine be all unilateral for a while. And I had to do this for my shoulders. I had to do this for my chest. I had to do this for my biceps, all at different periods of my training career. Did you just get you just get a voided barbell? Yeah. I just avoid it, avoid it for a while. And honestly, it only took, I want to say three to six months.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I can't remember, each one was probably a little bit different, but just simply focusing all on unilateral, so one arm, one leg, like you said, at a time in your routine, getting rid of the barbell stuff for a while, because this is a priority, right? I know you hear us talk on the show of time about barbell, so it's barbell, barbell, barbell.
Starting point is 00:58:02 But that's why there's always exceptions to the rule. Like if someone's asking me, oh, you say you would need to do barbell exercises, barbell, barbell, barbell. But that's why there's always exceptions to the rule. Like if someone's asking me, oh, you say you would need to do barbell exercises all the time, but then you guys say to do dumbbell exercises and get rid of barbell exercises, well, that's because this person right here, this is an example of this now takes over a priority of what exercise technically would build
Starting point is 00:58:19 the most muscle on their body, and it's more, let's get it balanced out, then we can go back to those barbell movements. Right, and also to, I guess I just think, I think also about posture and what maybe, maybe a block in that process in terms of unlocking more potential for you to gain access to your lat. So what if like your chest, for instance,
Starting point is 00:58:41 and your pecs are a bit tighter on your other side. You really need to do the work of mobility and assessing where those deficiencies may lie. If there's any asymmetry or anything within your posture that you can realign in order for you now to then really be able to focus on gaining more connectivity towards the lot. Next question is from Beck Pastore. What value does a cool down provide after a workout?
Starting point is 00:59:12 What is the best way to cool down? Okay, so cooling down, if you had to compare it to priming, I don't think it's as important, but it does have some value from a muscle building perspective. Static stretching, first off, this is when you do it. You would do the static stretching at the end of the workout. So if you just worked out your back or your chest, now you're gonna slow down
Starting point is 00:59:36 and you're gonna focus on these long stretches of this muscle, especially if it's pumped, studies show that this does contribute to more muscle growth and better recovery. So that's part of it. The other part of it is it gets you into that state of recovery a little bit faster and better in a more organized way rather than stopping and work out all of a sudden cold and then moving to the next thing.
Starting point is 01:00:00 You have a process of allowing your body to come down to a better state. Now for endurance athletes, a little bit more valuable. You tend to get this blood pooling effect in your extremities when you're running or cycling a lot, and so cooldowns can prevent some of the dizziness that some of them would experience after cycling. So rather than like doing a hard cycle and then just stopping, they would do a hard cycle
Starting point is 01:00:24 and then kind of slow down. But in my experience, cooldowns are excellent for doing correctional static stretching, improving range of motion, and then accelerating muscle growth through that static stretching period. I think there's a lot of opportunity here. I think that this is definitely an overlooked aspect
Starting point is 01:00:43 of working out and training in general to where yeah, you can bring yourself down into that more parasympathetic state. And for athletes, how beneficial is that when you can control your body and be able to get yourself into that state a little bit more effectively, a little more efficiently and train your way there? And I think a good way to do that would be to really implement these cool downs in your workout and start training your body how to respond like that. So if you're in a really rigorous activity and event to be able to then calm the system down
Starting point is 01:01:17 and regenerate some energy, I think that would be massively beneficial. Well, I think it all depends on what, who you are. You weaken warrior person who kind of just is approaching, working out and just trying to stay healthy and fit, but balance lifestyle. And that person to me, if you're getting the main lifts in, you're eating well, sleeping well,
Starting point is 01:01:40 you're taking care of the big rocks. I don't think this is that big of a deal. If you are a competitor, if you're somebody who's competing and you're looking for the competitive edge, whether that be sport or building a physique and looking to maximize auto-hands. This does matter. And men are a lot actually.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I mean, you guys both are pointing about the parasympathetic system. Getting into that state allows you body to start to recover. Until you're in that state, you haven't started the recovery process. So let's just use hypothetical numbers and just pretend that you go and you don't do a cool down and say it takes a half hour to an hour
Starting point is 01:02:18 before your body actually switches over into that system and says, okay, we've calmed down now. He's no longer hammering me with weights or running on the treadmill or beating me up. It's no longer stress time. Now it's time to start recovering and rebuilding. And let's say that's a, it takes your body naturally,
Starting point is 01:02:34 half hour, hour to do that. And let's say when you do cooldowns, it only takes it 15 minutes to do that because you did a cooldown process. Now that 15 minutes of recovery times five to seven days a week times 30 days a month times 300, you know, in a year, that shit really starts out. So if you are a competitive athlete or looking for the next step, this stuff does make a huge difference. And this is where things like, you know, cryotherapy and
Starting point is 01:03:01 ice baths and infrared saw all these tools really start to come in a play where man, these can be difference makers for somebody who is trying to take their recovery and take their training tool, another level. So that with LeBron James is all his money he poured into that direction and did make a massive difference. Yeah, you know, it's funny is that body builders instinctively have done this for a long time.
Starting point is 01:03:24 But there's like a ritual, especially in the older days of bodybuilding. After a workout, they would go out and they'd eat a big meal and go lay out in the sun. That's what they did, right? Or after a hard workout, I have, by the way, eating is parasympathetic, right? When you eat food, it kicks in this, this digest, rest in digest is what parasympathetic stands for or kind of does. And bodybuilders, again, they've done this instinctively. Every time I, when I work out, one of my favorite things to do, and this is even after I understood that eating after I work out isn't as important as I'm really making a huge difference. I still like the process of, I just had a hard workout, now let me relax and eat. It's really part of the cooldown process
Starting point is 01:04:06 from an instinctual perspective. Next question is from Neal, Robert Curran. Can you recommend a good shoe for squatting and deadlifting? Does it make a difference or would you bother? Different shoes for these here. Yeah, it really depends on the person too. So ideally, okay, let's say you have great mobility, great stability, good foot strength,
Starting point is 01:04:27 everything looks good, barefoot or as barefoot, as close to barefoot as possible, would be best for all lifts. Because flexible flat sole. Yeah, because you're working with your feet are strong, your ankle mobility is good, hip mobility is good, everything looks good. Now what you don't want is you don't want something
Starting point is 01:04:43 under your foot that's going to be a crutch or prevent you from strengthening all your stability, right? But that's not typically the case, right? With most people, they have issues. And so let's say you have bad ankle and foot mobility and strength and you go and try and do barefoot deadlifting or barefoot squatting, especially. You might hurt yourself. So in that case, you might want to transition and start with something that has a strong stable soul, especially for squatting, something that maybe has a little bit of a heel rise
Starting point is 01:05:13 in it. So squat shoes, very stable, little bit of a heel rise. I don't think you should stay there. I think you should slowly and gradually work on your income mobility and your foot mobility in order to do that. Deadlifts, you probably do want a nice strong soul, but flat because you want to be lower to the ground. If you have a little bit of a rise in your, and deadlifts don't require nearly
Starting point is 01:05:35 as much income mobility of squats to. And also if you have a rise in your heel, it just throws your weight forward anyway, which makes it the deadlift. Yeah, no, that's effective. You have to dress this, because it's a popular thing I anyway, which makes it the deadlift. Yeah, no, that's the fact. I mean, you have to dress this, because it's a popular thing I see. I don't know why this is common.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And maybe just because I think the people that buy the shoes don't understand, using a squat shoes with heel raises in a deadlift is silly. It's, you're making it more challenging for yourself. Yeah, I know. You're not helping yourself whatsoever. You want to be lower. Yeah, you want to be as close to the ground
Starting point is 01:06:03 as your heels as flat as possible Yeah, you're you're adding an extra inch of pool that you have to do now. So Squat shoes while that's what they're called squat shoes and not deadlift shoes You know wearing those shoes while you're also deadlifting is not ideal You know, it's interesting though like so when Sal was actually the first person to introduce Squat shoes to me again., I was never into powerlifting, even lifting very heavy. And this was back when we were really picking apart my squat and trying to improve it.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And Sal was like, you should really try these squat shoes to see if it really helps you out. And boy, it was, it was a game changer for me because I lacked the ankle mobility. And so I went on a kick for a while where I was wanting squat shoes a lot when I was squatting because it did feel a lot better. Because it did.
Starting point is 01:06:44 It was crutching my lack of mobility in my ankles. Then I went on that whole hardcore kick of working on my mobility, got rid of the shoes, didn't do it all, trained a lot of barefoot training. Now what I love to do, because I train mostly in chucks or barefoot most of the time, but every once in a while, I'll go to do like some heavy squats
Starting point is 01:07:02 and I'll throw those squat shoes on and it's like. It's like a turbo. Yeah, it's in a while, I'll go to do like some heavy squats and I'll throw those squat shoes on and it's like a turbo. Yeah, it's like a turt. It's like, because now I'm getting an extra inch that I don't have to squat in a sense, right? When you think about that, I have less range of motion that my knee has to travel. And so it's easier. So if I've done a good job of working on my ankle and hip mobility for a long time consistently, which I have, and most of the time squatting in flat shoes
Starting point is 01:07:26 or barefoot, every once in a while, when I throw them squat shoes on, it's like, it reminds me of the feeling of having the belt, not having the belt. It's like when you train mostly without a belt, then you go throw that sucker on there once a while. It's like, oh, you get a little extra gear out of it. So.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Yeah, it's interesting, because I mean, I probably wore running shoes and like cross trainers a lot in my career just because the athletic background and whatnot, like it was a lot more movement based and running and, you know, athleticism and all that kind of stuff. And when I actually was in this gym, I saw a lot of my coworkers wearing chucks
Starting point is 01:08:01 and like they were doing everything in chucks or these like those five finger shoes. And I, I you know I was the guy making fun of them and you know all that kind of stuff. But it was starting to realize I mean the having running shoes, running shoes are literally engineered to get you to be able to move forward. Like everything is moving forward, nothing is considered side-to-side- and side cushioned. And cushioned. And so it's like, I mean, I can't tell you how many times I almost rolled my ankle just going side to side or twisting or rotating or doing anything.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I go, that's the worst shoe that you could train in. So I just wanted to throw that out there. It's very point. Oh, dude, you ever see someone heavy squat and they've got like Nike Max Air running shoe? It's like they're standing on Dynadisk. They've got this. Yeah, you don't want to use running shoes. It's like they're standing on dinodiscs. They've got these.
Starting point is 01:08:45 You don't want to use running shoes for heavy lifting because there's so much cushion that they're unstable. That's what you're trying to do. And at Justin's point, left to right, which is where you see those injuries have. Lots of injuries in that direction. And have you guys seen the deadlift shoes that power lift was used?
Starting point is 01:09:00 Just back to what you were saying about not wearing squat shoes. Deadlift shoes, have you seen them? They look like socks. That's how thin they make the sole because you want to be flat and low to the ground. So yeah, don't wear anything with the heel rise if you're deadlifting.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I work out my garage. That's when I go barefoot. I take off my shoes. Flat chair foot is liberating. I mean, you gotta work your way there, but it's definitely a whole nother experience. Absolutely. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video too.
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