Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1401: How to Improve Your Overhead Press, Techniques to Eliminate Muscle Imbalances, the Value of a Post Workout Cool Down & More
Episode Date: October 14, 2020In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about getting better at the overhead press, how to fix an imbalance between lats, the best way to cool down after a worko...ut, and good shoes for squatting and deadlifting. Courteney is looking GOOD. (5:38) Jessica likes Sal THICCC. (9:03) Baby stories with Mind Pump. (11:54) Mind Pump Recommends, Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. (21:53) Sal’s Supplement Corner. (29:07) How distance learning does not favor the parents. (31:10) Swim lessons with the Schafer’s. (36:45) Mind Pump remanences on old 90’s commercials. (40:59) Wisdom versus knowledge. (44:43) Justin’s embracing his feminine side. (47:28) NCI Certifications x Mind Pump. (48:40) #Quah question #1 – What can you do to get better at the overhead press? (51:00) #Quah question #2 - How do I fix an imbalance between my left and right lats? (55:34) #Quah question #3 – What value does a cool down provide after a workout? What is the best way to cool down? (59:05) #Quah question #4 – Can you recommend a good shoe for squatting and deadlifting? Does it make a difference or would you bother? (1:04:08) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Special: MAPS Anabolic and No BS 6-Pack Formula Impact Theory | Igniting Human Potential Tom Bilyeu - YouTube Bret Weinstein on Ending Cancel Culture, Avoiding Civil War and How We Can Unify Agmatine Visit Dr. Squatch for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! *Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout for 20% off sitewide* Join the Revolution in Nutrition Coaching – NCI Certifications x Mind Pump Z Press to take Your Shoulder Development to the Next Level Mind Pump Prime Webinar Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Tom Bilyeu (@tombilyeu) Instagram Jason Phillips (@jasonphillipsisnutrition) Instagram
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In this episode of Mind Pump, the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast,
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Now we open up by talking about Justin's wife's crop top.
Yes, that's how we open the episode.
Yeah, that's how we did it.
You'll want to hear that part.
Then we talk about.
Welcome, honey.
How excited I am because I got a baby coming any minute now,
literally, any minute now.
And so we start telling baby stories.
Adam talked about the, when his wife went into labor
a little over a year ago, so good stuff.
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We talked about homeschooling challenges
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Here's the first question.
What can you do to get better at the overhead press?
So we talk about movements and exercises you can do
to improve your overhead press strength.
The next question, how do I fix an imbalance
between my left and right lat?
So in that part of the episode,
we talk about imbalances in general
and how you develop muscles that seem to be lagging behind others. The next question, what does
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Justine, tell me about Courtney's crop top.
Like you see, keep seeing notes about that up on the screen.
You haven't said anything about it.
I'm very curious.
I know.
Like some of these,
I don't get to them,
but it was just a funny kind of thing that happened at home.
Like we have gear that every now and then Courtney is like,
hey, why don't you grab me something from my pump?
Why don't you go in the back and grab me something?
I need something to work out in.
And so there was like one of our tank tops,
I think Rachel would come up with this design
and it's like bright yellow.
And it's like, anyways, it's girls love it, whatever.
And so she had this on and she's working out,
she's coming upstairs.
And both my kids went up to her and were like,
mom, you just like put something else on.
No way. She's showing too much skin, mom, you need to like put something else on. No way.
You're showing too much skin, mom.
Did they really like shabin' her?
Like, saints just like to sexy.
That's so funny that you're seeing
your boys with tinnus, so young.
I know, and I was like, I don't know where they got that
from or anything, but like they're a little,
you know, church men with that.
Protect them, maybe.
Yeah, protect them.
Do you think kids, because they're young, right?
You think that they just, they instinctually are like,
wait a minute, more people are gonna look at my mom.
I don't know, it's interesting,
of course, you never wanna look at your mom in that life.
And don't you remember, don't you remember
the one kid in school who had the mom?
Mom, dude.
Yeah, what you remember that kid,
I remember that kid in our school,
you know, it's had this super hot mom
and you teased the fuck out of him all the time.
You did it, you did it, you did it, you did it, you did it.
It happened this early though, you know.
You're walking on your mom when she's showering all the time.
No.
Yeah, you're totally, it's a high school.
The kid that was always asking to come over.
Yes, yes.
Hey man, your mom makes great kids.
When you're a kid, when you're a young boy,
you do not want the hot mom.
You're proud of that as an older,
you get older like, oh man, my mom took care of herself,
like that's something you're proud of right like when you're later in your life
But when you're a young boy growing up to a teenage boy. You don't want to have a milk mom. No
It makes me wonder maybe one of his friends like right exactly. That's all it takes is one friend one time to make a comment like that
And you like forever having and then you're like mom put on some clothes. Yeah
Where longer sure?
More kids over lately that want to stay.
This makes me think.
Oh, I hurt my knee.
Mrs. Andrews, can you kiss my boo-boo?
No, Tommy, you're 18.
You can take care of yourself.
Kiss your own boo-boo.
I screw you.
That's hilarious.
Did you guys have any teachers growing up?
That were like, you thought were just
You did I just won miss Booey
You said her name Wow, hey miss
You missed the great opportunity
Door to you
Should have showed my true feelings. I had a French teacher. She was she's kind You mean, you know it? Yeah, I should've showed my true feelings. I had a French teacher.
She was kind of hot, you know?
And it's the only reason why I did okay in French class.
I did not have a hot teacher,
but I remember that kid's mom, you know, Mrs. Crumb.
You know, Justin Crumb's mom did everybody knew who she was.
Oh my God.
She came to all the football games,
like all done up and stuff and everybody.
She's sleeping up the crumb.
Yeah, everybody likes her, dude.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, you don't want that, you don't want to be that,
have that mom when you're a young boy.
Yeah, I can totally see that.
You don't mind if it's your wife though, huh?
Yeah, you know, I just want to be the hot one.
Yeah, the dad is proud, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, 100% of my friends.
Speaking of which, right, dude yesterday,
I got a great compliment from Jessica.
I was like, I was changing and she's like,
you look thicker.
It's like, wow.
That's a great compliment coming from me.
Yeah.
The thickness.
I love that.
Oh, especially when our insecurity
is that we've been skinny our whole life.
So, yeah, the thick compliments are great.
So, your workouts work and you're looking.
Oh, it's like, damn.
Do your girls ever compliment you like that?
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, or my girl will tell me when I'm not, you know what I'm saying?
No, she doesn't.
Yeah, absolutely.
Why are you getting all lean right now?
Why don't you put on some wet?
She'd rather see me.
Does she mean lean isn't like body fat lean
or like smaller?
Yeah, well smaller, right?
So I mean, if I stop lifting weights,
I get skinny fat, right?
That's what happens to me for sure.
Right away.
I lose size of my arms and my legs and I get a belly.
Like that's just like my, that's my freaking genetics. Right away, I lose size of my arms and my legs and I get a belly.
That's just like my freaking genetics.
Thank you, mom and dad.
So she would prefer, she would rather see me,
you know, 15 plus percent body fat,
but a solid 225 to 30, then the 198 and 5% body fat.
Same.
This is why I struggled so much when we were doing that, like, transformation thing and
the competition, all that, like-
That's not why you struggled.
Yeah, don't lie.
Yeah, he's such a...
Yeah, it was so hard because my wife...
He's like, yeah, she said that, so where's the motivation?
I mean, like, why even bother?
I just couldn't...
That's a good one.
Yeah, no, a good one.
Yeah, no, you know what I'm saying?
It is funny, Jessica does like me better
heavier than lean too.
Even if I'm shredded, she likes it better when I'm...
I think most women do.
I actually think it's our own, I think it's guys,
just like how women are probably more bigger critics
with other women.
Men are the same way too.
Like most dudes are in the gym complimenting each other
and talking about each other's physique
some more than women are talking about it.
Most dudes think it looks great to be 5% body fat and jacked.
There's only a small percentage of girls
that are really attracted to that like overly jacked look.
Shredding, yeah.
Most girls are not.
And there's also the factor of your relationship
and you're getting shredded,
like they don't like that you're getting the tension.
Oh, I don't wanna talk about that.
Cause they look back at the pictures like,
oh my god, I need to realize,
but you realized you didn't like the fact
that I was getting the tension.
Yeah, I think too, it's also sometimes,
for men at least, if you're super shredded, it might be perceived as like, you think too. It's also sometimes it for men at least if you're super shredded
It might be perceived as like you care too much, you know I mean spend too much time on how you look you spend too much time on worrying about and nobody wants to date that person
Unless you're a fanatic too, and then which case you could both be dysfunctional together
Narcissists, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but yeah, no
Yeah, she likes it when I'm a little bit heavier, but I haven't like, she's never, I've never, I haven't
been with her when I've gotten real heavy, so we'll see what
happens.
Because I've done that in the past.
You should really press her.
You get a baby a week away, so we'll see, you know, see if
you put on that, that baby weight.
Any, any minute now, actually, any, she, in fact, it just got
a text from her, she came from the midwife appointment.
And so last week, we had the midwife appointment
and they said that the baby was,
wasn't in the right direction yet.
Yeah, so like the baby's kind of sideways
and what you want is you want the back facing out, right?
You want the baby kind of facing your spine upside down.
That's the best way.
And so they told Jessica to get on all hands and knees
for two times a day, 20 minutes because I guess the gravity helps the baby turn in the right direction. Jessica to get on all hands and knees for, you know,
two times a day, 20 minutes,
because I guess the gravity helps the baby turn
in the right direction.
So she's been doing it and has been a little worried
because if you, you know, you give birth naturally
and the baby's back is facing your back,
you can have a, it's a longer process.
So I just got a text and she said that they said,
baby's in the right position.
And the baby's dropping.
Or good to go. And so guys are clear. Let's go. And she told her and she said that they said, babies in the right position, and the baby's dropping. Or good to go.
And so, guys are clear.
Let's go.
And she told her, she said, tell your husband
to blow up the tub or whatever,
get the tub ready and make sure that's working.
Oh wow, so you're going to have that all
blown up in the house now.
So what's going to be like, that's
going to make it feel a lot more real, right?
Well, what I noticed is that with midwives,
they're a big part of what they do is to keep you relaxed.
Because natural childbirth, a lot of it is allowing
your body to do his job, not freaking out, not being anxious,
which is just make your body tense up,
make it much more difficult.
And so they never say things like,
oh, any day now it's coming, they're always like,
well, we don't know.
I think they keep you from anticipating 100%.
So she's like, fill up the tub and just like, why?
I'll just see if it's, there's no holes in it.
It's secretly she's going, okay,
this shit could pop in the next four.
That's what I'm thinking about.
She's like, this could pop in the next 48 hours.
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do a little caffeine fast
because I'm gonna save that caffeine
for what I need it.
I want my body to be sensitive to it.
Oh shit, she's pushing for 12 hours.
Dude, we were ready with anything.
We didn't have a bag pack.
We didn't have nothing ready, dude.
I mean, we were a month early, so it was like.
You know, yeah, totally didn't happen.
I left a Range Rover in the emergency parking
with the keys in it and running.
We pulled up, we pulled up to the,
where the ambulance goes and drops off.
Cause I flew up there, she was barefoot,
she didn't have underwear on, she, we didn't have shit.
We roll up and I jump out, jump out, ran in real quick.
I need a wheelchair, I need a wheelchair,
they come rushing over, they get in the wheelchair.
And of course the natural instinct
is not to leave your wife, right?
So I don't go like, oh see you later honey.
As she's like, right, looks like she's about to have the kid
right then.
So I follow them up and then we're up there
and I'm standing there for a second.
They're like, sir, do you have the white range rover
that's in the ambulance parking?
I'm like, oh shit, yeah, I'm down there.
I go down, I left the doors open on it, the keys,
it's running, it's running, and there's a valet.
So it's a careless.
Now, was she an active labor at that point?
Was it early?
Was she like, oh my gosh, this is real intense.
No, we had it.
We literally had the baby within two hours of getting there, bro.
So she basically skipped the early period.
Well, remember we had the two false alarms that made us feel like we were amateurs because
she went in, she went in two days early, remember the beach together?
We're all the beach together.
She had that whole scenario where she was like,
uh, hun, I just went to the bathroom
and my panties are soaked.
So I don't know if I pissed myself right now
or in my water broke.
I'm like, well, I got that.
I can cause that.
That happens to me all the time.
No, I tell her I said, call the midwife, right?
So she calls her, uh, Rada, where the dola, right?
She calls her right away and she's like, um, you should go to the hospital. I know it's the midwife, right? So she calls her right away, the dualist, right? She calls her right away and she's like,
you should go to the hospital.
I know it's a month early, but you should go to the hospital.
And we went there, they checked everything,
they said, oh, false alarm, it's nothing.
You're just, at that point, they are saying that the baby
is growing so much that he can put pressure on the bladder
and you can just, it's very common.
You can watch yourself, you probably beat your pants,
whatever. So okay, so we go back home.
Then later on that night, contraction start, and she thinks that, you know, we're like,
okay, we already told that it's not coming for like a month, like they pretty much,
and they are like that way, like, dude, until it's like an emergency, like the hospital
sometimes is like lame, you know, they're just like, oh, another, here comes a new couple.
They make you feel bad for it.
They do. They make you feel bad for coming in because it's too early.
And like, you know, yeah, it's not going to happen.
It's the bubble blouse.
We're like, okay, so she starts having contractions.
And, you know, we were thinking, okay, they told us she's not going to have a baby for
four weeks. So they're probably braxton.
Hicks, right?
So you guys waited.
Yes. And we sat and we waited and we,
and then the Katrina looked at me and she's like,
honey, these are so painful.
She's like, this is where, this is way,
this can't be braxed and hex.
She goes, I'm pretty sure I've already had
braxed and hex.
It doesn't feel anything like this.
And so I'm like, well, you know, let's just see
if it continues.
And so then we started timing, just to see.
And we started timing and they were like five minutes apart
and they got down to like four minutes apart and we're like, um, maybe we should go into the hospital again.
So we go down the hospital again, they do the whole scenario with us, they check and they're
like, no, it's probably Braxton Hicks. She's, you know, that's all it is. And they're basically
telling her like, you know, yeah, I could pretty much be like this for the next three weeks.
And so then we go back home again and she's looking at me and she's like, honey, I'm
gonna have to do this for four weeks.
She goes, I'm gonna need drugs.
I don't know if I could do this.
And I'm just like, you're okay, you're okay.
So we fell asleep that night, literally like this.
So I had to labor the whole time.
Yeah, so we're laying in bed.
This is all night long.
And I had the phone with the timer,
with the little app that did the contractions.
And she's holding my hand, I'm holding her hand,
and we're laying on there on the bed.
And she would squeeze me, and it's what would wake me up,
and then I would just automatically hit the button start.
You know, so I hit the start button,
and then she, and then I could feel her squeeze in my hand,
and then in pain and stuff like that,
and she'd go, okay, and then I'd stop it, and be like,
okay, and we were so we were tracking them all night long.
And they were, they were starting to accelerate
and I didn't wanna go with third time in three days
and be told that we're a bunch of fucking rookies
and don't know what we're doing.
I'm like, okay, I know we're okay
because the hospital's not far.
So I'm like, we can push this all the way
to like two and a half minutes in between or whatever.
So let's just keep seeing and they did.
And finally when they hit about the two and a half,
we go, okay, let's go back to the hospital.
So this doesn't seem normal.
On the way of walking down the stairs to go back to the hospital,
water breaks when I'm behind her on the stairs.
All over the place, I'm like, oh shit, it is here.
Yeah, so we didn't have a bag,
we didn't have anything ready
because they kept telling us that this ain't happening.
Oh man, yeah.
I am so excited right now.
Just hearing that too is getting me excited, you know what I mean?
Especially because my kids are older
and now that my daughter's turning 11 soon
and I think back to when they were babies
and I'm like, oh man, I wish I could go back in time.
I see pictures of and now I get to do it again.
You know what I mean?
So I'm so pumped.
It's gotta be a really cool experience for you
to do this, right? Because such a still pops. It's gotta be a really cool experience for you to do this, right?
Because it's such a different.
It's less common, right?
There's not a lot of parents that have 10 year gaps
with their kids, right?
That's not that often.
I don't think so.
Right, so it's gotta be pretty neat.
It's such a whirlwind the first time around
that now I feel like, you know, doing it again,
I'm a total different state of awareness.
I really hope that you have the awareness
to share with us as you go through step-by-step
things that you know you've done differently.
I shared with you guys, I don't know if I did this on air or not,
but I talked about like,
so I had a lot of experience with my two younger siblings
that have 10 years plus on me.
So I kinda got to be like a dad,
even though it was a teenage boy,
and obviously you don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
But I did, I fed and changed and did all,
and watched my baby brother and sister a lot.
And I remember like, you know, when they would cry
and they fuss and like trying to put them down sometimes,
I'll frustrating that would get to like,
you know, and you get really irritated.
And you know, at that time in my life,
I'm not thinking about my feelings and the energy
that he may be picking up from me
and like how I'm handling it. I'm not thinking of any of that stuff, right? I'm just thinking about my feelings and the energy that he may be picking up from me and like how I'm handling it.
I'm not thinking of any of that stuff, right?
I'm just like mom told me.
I'm like, yeah, I'm a kid, right?
And you just deal with it.
Where now like I have such a different, I like, when he, before he goes to bed, like he
kind of wrestles around with me and stuff like that, it's just part of his process after
bath and then reading.
And sometimes when I take him in his room and it's all black and it's time to put him down,
he does that where he's like moving around my arms
and I don't fight him.
I just, I think of like what I've seen.
You just corral him, right?
Yeah, I just corral him.
I think of it like when you've ever seen like,
you know, like when chimps are together
and they have like a baby chimp in the mom's
just kind of like keeping them in close,
you know, letting them play and roll and fight and pull
and do all this.
I don't fight any of it.
I just let them do it. Isn't that weird? They have like doing a keto with them. Yeah, you know, letting them play, and roll, and fight, and pull, and do all this. I don't fight any of it, I just let them do it.
Isn't that weird?
They have like, they're like doing a keto with them.
Yeah, isn't that weird?
They have like this little bit of extra energy,
they need to like, get out so closely.
Yeah, and I feel like when you resist that so much,
you only make it worse, makes them cry,
they get irritated, they get frustrated,
then it's this battle, and then you get angry about it.
Like, first of all, like now I have this older version of me that's doing this, and I'm just like, it's cute to me, and it. Like, first of all, now I have this older version of me
that's doing this and I'm just like, it's cute to me
and I let them do it and then before long,
and it's weird, sometimes you'll fall asleep
on his knees with his head between like my armpit
because that's just where he end up when he was tired.
You know what I'm saying?
I let him kind of roll around do his thing
and then like next day I know he's like sleeping.
There was a period of time for my daughter,
I don't remember how long this period was,
a few months or whatever,
she just had to have a good cry before she went to bed,
just the way it was.
She would get real fussy, and then she would cry,
and then at some point, I'm like,
I think she just needs to get this energy out.
So I just let her cry and hold her,
and then after about a minute or so,
she'd get tired and fall asleep.
Yeah, I wanna hear about the moments
that with your new child that you recognize
that you did something different.
Like, oh, I handled this different.
I remember now this has brought me back
to when I had my two older ones,
like during this time, and I see how I'm different this time.
I think that's interesting to me.
I think being an older dad is,
I think that's a good thing.
I really do.
I think you're just wiser, you know what I mean?
When you're young, you're just in the tornado. And you're like, I gotta make money. I gotta make sure things okay. And then when you're older, you're like, okay, it's all good.
We'll be calm. Well, it's like that. We are just watching the Tom Bill use the the Brett Weinstein thing, right? Talking about great interview, right?
Yeah, great show. Wasn't that good to him and him talking about like it's on his conversations with Tom Bill you on on YouTube
I believe. I think that's what it's called, right? It's that what it's called, done. It's Impact Theory Channel.
Yeah, it's Impact Theory.
But that is called Conversations with Tom.
Yeah. I didn't know he was doing that where he was doing the one on one out of a studio
or it's kind of like a, I like the way they set that up.
Would you guys think of that conversation?
He's really interesting.
I didn't know anything about Brett Weinstein.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I've heard Brett Weinstein on Joe Rogan.
Yeah, it was an interesting conversation. I wanted them to get a little bit further into the actual conflict of, you know, both parties.
Like, I mean, the title of it wasn't like something about, so we going into Civil War.
You know, it was a very provocative title and I feel like, you know, that, like what they were saying
in that conversation was really deep and it's definitely thought provoking,
but that tied on, like, let's get to this.
Why don't they start to get to it?
They did indirectly, I thought it was really good.
I was alluding to right now with the whole child
throwing a tantrum, how that's their natural way
to try and get of attention.
And they kind of tied that into our culture today
and how we're allowing that type of behavior to be rewarded.
And I thought that was a really interesting take on that and to draw it back to our natural
instincts as kids to do that to get our way.
And anyone who's a parent knows that that's not the way to be successful as a kid.
And we seem to be rewarding in adults.
Right.
So I thought that was really, really fascinating.
It is.
It was a great conversation.
I think the thing, the important thing to understand here
that's happened over the last, I don't know, 10, maybe 15 years
is that we stopped thinking that the other side was wrong.
And now we think that the other side is evil.
That's very different. If I'm debating, you know, Adam, for example, on a subject,
now I know you, right?
I know Adam and I know Justin,
and I know you guys are not evil people.
But let's say we're debating a topic,
and you have a complete,
you both have completely different opinions for me.
I'm gonna debate the idea, but you're not an evil person.
I know that your intentions may be good. Even if I think you're, the idea, but you're not an evil person. I know that your intentions may be good.
Even if I think you're the idea you have is wrong
and it's not going to work, I know your intentions are good.
So now we can have a discussion.
There's a level of civility there still.
There is.
Now if I'm talking to an evil person, right?
So if Hitler, all of a sudden, comes to life
and he's sitting across from me,
I'm not going to debate Hitler. I'm going to want to beat him up.
You're an evil berate him. You're an evil person.
So that's the big problem is that people on the left think that the people on the right
are evil, people on the right think that people on the left are evil, but the reality is
and then everybody in the middle, you know, why aren't you picking a side?
You're evil. Yeah. And the reality is both the majority of people on both sides want the right thing.
They want people to be better off.
They want to help other people.
They want to help their families.
Some on some subjects, maybe one side is right.
On other subjects, maybe the other side is right.
But for the most part, most people are not evil.
Like nobody's voting for someone because they are evil
and they want bad things.
Well, he makes the case in that conversation, right, that it's their necessary.
It's a necessary evil to have both opposing sides like that.
That's what makes America so great.
Did you guys, so I know you guys didn't watch the full VP debate, but actually that,
that was the last question from the kid, right?
So the kid, an eighth grader writes in and says that all I see on TV is this anger and animosity
towards you and this division.
And I really, I thought Mike Pence did a really good job of responding to that.
Like he, I thought he came, like reminded this kid that,
oh, don't believe everything that you see on television.
And that was where he actually complimented Kamala Harris.
And they talked about like, this is what makes our country so great.
Is that we do have very opposing sides and we challenge each other hard.
He went into great detail to share that.
That's the problem I think is we live in this Twitter world and 15-second sound bite world
and a bunch of idiots that hear that stuff and they take that and they run with that.
First is recognizing that they're both necessary evils.
They both have value,
and that's what has brought us
into this beautiful country that we all live in.
And it's not something that we need to be,
like I don't think it's as bad as we make it out to be.
I think it's the tabloids.
It's way easier to burn everything down.
Then to have hard conversations
and to actually work your way together
to build something that's different.
It's just, it's just most people are not evil people.
Go find somebody with opposing views from you
and talk to them, not about their views,
but talk to them about their lives.
And you'll find, you'll find.
You'll find, you'll find most people,
they just want what's best for their kids,
they care about the well-being of other people,
they wanna do well themselves.
Another thing I really like,
I really like that interview with Wantsuit.
I've never heard anyone explain the left and the right,
the way the difference is in that,
but the great value of both of them,
the way the left looks more as the collection of the compassion,
collective compassion.
Yeah, collective compassion and moving all of us collectively
in a better direction, which that's the place where most of them come from.
If I would think most liberals think of themselves that way.
And then the right is more just, that's the place where most of them come from. I would think most liberals think of themselves that way.
And then the right is more just,
they think that the way to get there
is through individual,
personal responsibility.
Yeah, personal responsibility.
So I thought that was really interesting.
And I thought that was a great point.
And I think it was a great point
for a lot of people to listen to at this time.
Well, there's a conversation that hasn't been had
in a little while, which I think is this,
is that whatever our, if we have this free system,
where people can kind of do what they want,
buy what they want, so long as they don't hurt other people,
or steal, or that kind of stuff, that's great,
but you also need a society that's otherwise moral
and has good ethics for that to also work.
So that's the weakness in any system,
but you need to have good, for example,
if you look at the fitness space, right?
The fitness space, it will provide the products
and services that people pay for.
So if all people want our fat burning pills
that promise to make you lose 30 pounds in 30 days,
if all people want our aesthetic driven programs
and insecure driven marketing, then that's what
the fitness space is going to push forward.
We not only want, I don't want the fitness space, for example, to get regulated, but I want
it to remain free, but I want people to want things that are healthy and good for them,
because then that's what we'll get produced.
That's the conversation I think a lot of people aren't having. We're kind of missing out on, I mean, imagine
if all the collective desire for, I don't know, distraction, right? So many people want
to be distracted. Imagine if everybody, instead of being distracted, wanted to learn and grow,
how much of that, all those resources will get dedicated towards growth instead.
You know, I'm saying, so I think that's a big thing.
But it was, it was a good interview.
I really appreciate, I think Billy is doing a great job on his channel.
He's got some really, really good guests going on.
Decay, it blows my mind how much he's doing, dude.
I can't keep it.
I thought that like we drown a lot of people with content. Like it's almost impossible.
He's a machine.
Speaking of supplements, I've been experimenting with supplements.
It's been around for a little while.
No sponsorships with a company that provides us or anything,
but just thought I'd bring it up.
Have you guys heard of Agmatine before?
No, not from my.
Very interesting compound.
I believe it's related to Argonine,
but it does, when you take it,
it lowers your perception of pain.
It's got synergistic properties with pain killers.
So this is why medicine is interested in it.
It's actually an effective,
nitric oxide booster.
And you take it with a stimulant
and you get a little bit more of a stimulant kind of effect.
So I experimented with this about, I don't know,
five years ago, bought some more just to see what would happen.
Oh yeah, it's legit, man.
You definitely work out and you find yourself pushing
a little harder because the perception of pain a little lower.
Interesting.
A very interesting supplement.
Yeah, it's not, it's not a classic stimulant.
I wonder what that would be like with paired with something
like cratum that works with that.
Like that's, oh, it's so it'sgistic with with things that work with the opiate receptors
That's why I'm wondering how now here's the thing now. I'm real quick caution here synergistic sometimes it means it amplifies
So you might get also negative effects from more negative effects from something like cratum
So I don't want to recommend recommend people come out of this
I spent around for a while, but I was at the vitamin shop the other day,
it's like a GNC, right?
And I still like to walk through there and see.
That's so funny we drove by one yesterday,
and I told him,
is that always been there?
And she's like, yeah, I'm like,
I can't believe those things are still in business.
It's funny, I have a problem.
I'll go into one of those,
and it's interesting to hear their advice
in terms of, it's all COVID related.
They're always trying to pump you up
with like vitamin C, vitamin D, you know,
this at the other meeting.
I'm like, wow, I guess is the direction.
I like to go through because you guys know
I have a bit of a supplement problem,
but I also like to look at the back to the bottles
to see, okay, what are they putting in?
What are they trying to promote?
And that kept seeing this pop up in some supplements.
It's so interesting.
I remember reading about a long time ago,
did a little bit more research on it.
Let me try to sound to see what happens.
Dude, how's the distance learning going with your kids?
I have a bit of a story with this so far.
It's been really rough.
Dude.
And I kind of have come to conclude that the way
this is set up is just not in parents' favor at all.
And really it's a power structure.
Because if you think about it,
you're implementing this curriculum from a teacher
who's the authority,
but you're just basically the manager in the situation
that's trying to make sure that everybody's,
you're like the task master.
And so this is where,
I know Courtney's struggling with this quite a bit
in terms of them,
you know, like having outbursts, So this is where I know Courtney's struggling with this quite a bit in terms of them, having
outbursts and frustration all directed at her, but then trying to do all this stuff virtually
to appease the teacher.
So my solution to this, which I was really trying to think about this because it's frustrating
for everybody involved
was to kind of bring in another element
of the power dynamic.
So bringing myself into this is an evaluation process.
So daily, weekly, the total,
like how basically they were behaving
in terms of they got up on time,
if they're dressed, if their attitude is good,
if they're listening well, they completed their homework,
how good the homework was,
I had to have all these qualifications
to then evaluate, so that way, now it's like,
okay, we actually have to take this seriously,
because that's the biggest problem is they're not taking
it seriously.
That's a really smart actually recommendation. Are you doing, they're not taking it seriously. That's a rule.
That's a really smart actually recommendation.
Are you doing like some sort of like a chart
with like stars on it or doing some sort of a reward
just like?
Every production meetings with your kids.
Yeah, it feels like that.
That's actually really fucking smart.
Now what I know that's a big challenge right now
for a lot of parents.
Bro it's huge, you have no idea,
I've talked to so many parents.
Are you, now what do you do if they don't?
Like let's say they don't do something
do they get punishment? Yeah, negative. So here's the thing
They get a score from one to six based off of these qualifiers like of what I'm evaluating and so then core
I leave it the court need to you know
Give them sort of a score on that and then I review it with them when I get home and
You know that I haven't actually got to a point where I did a full
week yet. So what basically is is like take something away. Yes, give screen time. Gift or take
away. Yeah. And so then, you know, and of course the gifts are going to be real small things or
whatever, like little winds like, yeah, whether it's electronics, whether it's, you know, a little
Lego toy or whatever it is, you know, like having a friend over to stay over.
That's a brilliant idea to do.
Dude, it's so challenging.
I talked to parents.
So, you know, there's a huge like ADD problem, right?
Like children have been medicated more and more
because they can't sit still.
And my personal belief is I don't,
I definitely think that there are, that ADD exists,
but I also think that the way the system is designed
is some people are just,
they do better when they move around,
they don't do so well sitting still.
I'm one of those people.
And so I don't necessarily think,
and also I think there are factors
that can contribute to that poor diet, unstable home,
is how we're teaching maybe influencing that.
So I have parents who have kids who were borderline
ran bunk shifts or whatever, not necessarily EDD,
never been diagnosed, but now they're thinking
their kids have ADD.
And I'm like, well, it's because your kid now
is sitting in a chair looking at a 2D image all day.
Now they're sitting in,
and not only before they were in a classroom,
which was challenging for them.
Now they're in front of a computer,
they're in fourth grade.
What do you think, so I imagine that this is probably,
going up, I'm wondering if more kids
are putting on meds because of this distance learning.
And really, if it was just about homeschooling,
at least then you can determine your own hours.
So your own environment,
them having to log in at that early morning time and be on there and check in and be forced to subscribe
to this regimen is way less empowering to the parents.
Here's my personal, so I'm blessed in this regard.
My, both of my kids have always done really well in school.
My daughter has always loved school.
Like, looks forward to waking up for school,
looks forward to going to school the next day.
She's very, like if she gets a project and it's due Friday,
she's doing it Monday, she does it way in advance.
Like, never had to worry.
First time ever in my daughter's life is she not like school,
ever.
Never comes out of her mouth.
She still does well. She's very
responsible. I still don't I don't have to like be on top of her, but I've never heard my daughter
ever say, oh, I gotta go to school tomorrow. Oh, I gotta she hates it because of the the way and
she's in a pod. She's not even by herself. She's with three other girls. She's like my son. He does
well. I never have to be on top of them, but I tell you you dude, the kid from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.,
he's in front of his computer, not moving.
When I come home from work, I pull him out of his room,
I have to drag him outside, and he literally,
he looks like someone that's been chained
in their basement for years.
He's just not motivated to go outside anymore.
He's pale, he's just, hey, what's up?
Listen, we're gonna go for a walk.
And the pod thing is difficult too, man,
because you get all these crazy parents
that are like, they wanna keep their kid in a bubble
because they're afraid of everything.
Oh, dude, I just can't deal with it.
I can't deal with people.
I know, so I don't know, Matt,
but it's a very challenging time,
I think, for a lot of parents.
Yeah, it's been a challenge.
I took Max to swim lessons and I kind of had a feeling
like it wasn't going to go very well.
Wait, how old is he?
He's one, right?
One half?
Yeah, that's young.
Yeah, it's young, for sure.
And really, it was, so really this has a lot to do
with getting Katrina comfortable.
So one of the other things that we're not probably
see eye to eye is, I was already dunking him in the in the bath like way long ago, you know,
and I had to do it when she like leaves the room because she would freak the fuck out.
Like she just, he's a baby. What are you doing? You think he's gonna be traumatized?
Like I'm trying to drown him or something. I'm like, no, it's not. Let's do the thing
where you're blowing his face. Yeah, but I'm on his face and naturally close their mouth
and they in there and I and I let I used to let him really early on when he could barely
even crawl, like kind of move around the bathtub, let him go fall
and slip and go under a little bit.
And then I'd pick him back up and then make sure not a big deal.
Yeah.
Right, you know, kids are not gonna fucking drown when I'm in the
bathtub with him, right?
So I'm not worried about that.
And so now we're moving into the pool and like we're doing
pool time and like I, I want to be a little more
Aggressive with them and allow them to kind of let them go let them try to kick it naturally kids will do that like you see I don't know if you've ever seen like videos of those videos of infants or yeah
Before they can turn up before they can crawl a lot of times can learn to swim and swim to get to their head atop
So I know this and I've had younger siblings and I've been in polls my whole life
And so, you know, I'm trying to get Katrina
to be more comfortable with kind of stretching him
a little bit and let,
so he, because I want him to learn how to swim really early.
So we don't have to worry about when we're around polls
and shit like that him falling in.
So a lot of this truthfully is to get her comfortable
so you can hear a fucking person that is a teacher
for this, say all the same goddamn things I've been saying,
right? So this is Katrina Pull Lesson.
Yeah.
Right.
Secretly.
I'm giving it up now to get them.
I'm sure she'll listen, right?
So, yeah.
So, okay.
Anyway, so I'm like, I already know he's, he's at a place where he won't like go of me,
right?
And then on top of that, like, kids, totally new place.
There's lots of stuff going on.
It's loud and all kinds of people and kids jumping in pools splashing
and here comes me with my son, I gotta wear a mask,
which I don't wear a mask around him at heartily at all.
So he doesn't really see that on my face,
I'm wearing a mask around, the instructor's got a big
fucking face shield on, old ladies never seen before.
It's kind of a scary environment.
No shit dude.
And then we wonder why he won't fucking let go of me,
you know what I'm saying?
It's like, I'm not.
Yeah, like, I already look, like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's not enough. Yeah.
Like, I already look like, when I put the mask on before we went in and I'm carrying him,
he kind of gave me this like sideways look like, what the fuck is that doing here?
Right.
So, right.
And then I'm in a pool with it and then, so it was like disaster as far as like any sort
of success with it.
I mean, it was good because the pool they keep it at 91 and so every time I've taken them in a pool before, it's been really cold and that seems to be
bothering him more than anything else than more than fear. So yeah, we'll see how
it, what we do to progress this, but I told Katrina already, I'll do it again for you and
we'll do a group one, try that, but it's important. Swimming lessons are super important, especially
if you live near a pool. I mean, we did that with my kids when they were really young
because we had a pool and that's the safest thing you could do
is have your kids learn how to swim.
And you can put up a gate, you can do all that stuff.
Safety, I do the same thing with gun safety.
So like yesterday I took my son for the first time, by the way,
he fired a handgun, so he's 15, so I took him to the range
and he was able, I brought my revolver and he was able to do it,
but before that, I go through all the gun safety.
You know, treat everything like it's loaded.
Here's how you open it.
This is how you hold it, never put your hand here.
And because if you have the responsibility,
if you have a gun,
your people in the house should know gun safety
and know what to handle it,
because most of the accidents that happen are accidents
We're not someone doing it on purpose
Not to mention if there was an intruder when you weren't home and your 15 year old son is the only one there
You want him to be able to protect himself too if you absolutely add to yeah, yeah, not yet until when he's really proficient
Yeah, it's because otherwise you'll
He'll pull it out and the burglar just grab it from him. Yeah
I mean that's how it starts so you get to teach him at one point, you know what I'm saying?
Or if you wait till he's 20 something for you,
I just started.
I've seen those statistics though.
Yeah, it's always better to educate and have them
like handle the gun versus like them just,
you know, sort of be afraid of it.
Totally, totally.
Hey, I was speaking to my son.
So we sometimes him and I go on YouTube
and we'll show each other funny things.
And I was looking up like nostalgic 90s commercials.
Do you guys remember herbal essence shampoo commercials?
Do we?
Do you?
Yeah, it's like the most like orgasmic moan.
You know, my son's like, what the fuck?
He had never seen him before.
No, I mean, they don't do those anymore, do they?
No.
So for people who don't know, it was a shampoo commercial.
I do not know those. And the woman was super famous.
Washing her hair is moaning like she's orgasming.
So my kids like, this is a commercial.
It was effective, they sold the shit.
Actually, that would, I mean, herbal essence
may be, we may be able to credit them
for doing the first bit of like really edgy type
of advertising like that.
They were one of the first companies
to kind of push those limits,
at least that I remember.
Every girl I know, you could smell it in their hair
because it was like a very floral kind of a smell.
It's just like, but anyways, that was one of those things too.
Like I wasn't talking to them about that,
but what brings to mind that kind of a thing was that,
like Courtney has certain shampoos that we have.
We all kind of use her shampoos
and she's just sick of it, whatever.
So I finally got my hands on some of the Dr. Squatch version
because I've had this soap,
but they actually have the shampoos too in conditioner.
And so I brought those home and I'm using them like,
oh, good, and I'm like kind of joking.
I finally, I can smell like a man.
And the kids heard like talking about that.
Oh, no.
And so they like stole it from me.
And I'm like, where'd it go?
They're like downstairs like put it,
they're all like, you know, super proud
that they're smell like a man now.
I wonder if they think it's gonna make them stronger
or something like that.
Yeah, exactly, right.
Like I know I have no hair,
but I use it on top of my head all the time
because of the tea tree oil.
It's good for the side.
Yeah, it's for the dry skin, fuck off guys.
For the, I mean, I have my sorice spots that I have on my head
and it's how, it's how for what keeps you.
Teatree oil is good for a dandruff too.
Yeah, it's good.
Did you guys use their toothpaste yet?
I haven't used it.
I just literally put it in my bathroom last night.
I'll use it.
They have a day time in a nighttime.
Yeah, so the day time one has got
Jinxing vitamin B12 and I can't remember. There's a mineral in a nighttime. Yeah, so the daytime one has got ginseng vitamin B12, and I can't remember,
there's a mineral in there that's very similar
to tooth and an amul.
Apparently if you brush your teeth with it,
it can help strengthen teeth and even heal cavities,
by the way, as a thing.
What smart marketing.
Yeah, and then, you know, morning and then the night one.
Well, the ingredients are legit.
The evening ones got Valerian, Camamil, and Saulple Meadow,
which for a man, Saulple Meadow's a natural DHT receptor blocker,
which is good for hair loss, actually.
In fact, that's why he's a Saulple Meadow shampoo.
Thanks for pointing out.
Yeah, I put right into the game, but I put right into the game.
I don't think that's it.
Okay, so I'm unaware.
So, I'm aware.
Absolutely.
Hey, I started doing, do you guys remember when I used to do
my egg yolk shakes in the morning. Yeah, I started doing
You put in there like six or eight?
It's between six to ten. Yeah, so and this is a disc. This maybe why
Just like looking thick. So you think boy with a bunch of seas. Yeah, dude
So here's a disclaimer. Yes, if you put raw eggs in your shake, you could run the risk of
Yes, yes, it's a tiny risk, okay, but it's raw eggs in your shake, you could run the risk of... Sound nila.
Yes, it's a tiny risk, okay?
But it's your own, take your own risk, you know, risk,
and it's up to you.
But when I do this...
More importantly, you'll feel like Rocky.
Yeah, when I...
Yes.
Hey, listen, you can cook your eggs too if you want.
When I do this, when I have my, you know, six to 10 egg yolks
in the morning, legit, if I do this for like a two week period, I will get stronger
every time.
It is the most effective supplement ever is bumping your cholesterol, having them a.g.o.ks,
and then watch what happens.
I know you swear.
You really contrary to, yeah, people being afraid, yeah, of cholesterol.
Too much fat cholesterol.
Yeah, don't eat it.
Anyway, don't do it.
I was having a conversation with my aunt the other day.
So I have an aunt that is, I love her because her and I will, we've always been, we've
always debated each other.
When I was younger, it was more like arguments because she was closer to my age.
But now that I'm older, we have these wonderful discussions about anything, any topic, and
I love her because even if we, do you have many different perspectives or views on things?
Sometimes, although most of them now are very similar,
sometimes we have differing opinions.
And so we were having a conversation
about the impact of the internet.
And I'll remember a long time ago,
I had this huge debate with her of the internet.
And I said, this is wonderful.
You know, it's gonna give humans access to like all the information in the world. And this is going to be something
I think. And I remember she's like, that's not necessarily a good thing. We got this big
debate. Well, anyway, I had a conversation about it with her again. And I said, you know,
you were right. I just didn't understand it because I was younger back then. She said,
what do you mean? I said, you know, we do have access to all this information. And I can safely say people now have more knowledge
than they've ever had, especially younger people.
They know way more facts and knowledge than ever
because it's just there whenever they want to look it up.
But we lack wisdom.
That doesn't give you wisdom, right?
Not listening to the right people.
No, and so then he was, check this out, right?
So we're talking about this in a dawn on me. If you think of like a, like as you grow up as a human,
right, you're a, you're a baby, then you're a child, you know, toddler, then you're, you know,
adolescence teenager 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond, when you're a teenager and I'm seeing this with my son,
when you're a teenager, that's the first time where you actually know stuff, like you really
know stuff, like my know stuff like my sons 15
He's a smart kid
He'll sit there and he'll debate things with me and he's got facts and knowledge
But he comes to stupid conclusions because he lacks wisdom
I told him this the other day. I said you know things. It's true
But you lack experience so all you have is knowledge and you have no wisdom
So it was a great discussion that I had with my aunt.
Does that resonate with him yet?
Or it's like, just piss him off.
Yeah, it's just angry.
It pisses him off, but luckily he tries to be objective.
And what's funny is that he was telling me how logic
is so much better than emotion.
This was great conversation.
Go full spark.
Oh, dude, he saw my son.
It's so ridiculous.
It's annoying too.
He's like, logic is better than emotion. Emotion is not good. And he is. He's that's exactly how
he is. He Jessica says his emotional range is between a two and a four. Like, there's
him going. You know, below or above that or whatever. And they said, well, emotions part
of what makes this human. And so then as we're going, he starts to get angry. And he starts
to be logical about his anger. I like you just be emotional, buddy. It was really good.
Speaking of expressing your feminine side.
Yeah, it's funny.
When I got our little weiner dog,
I knew, right, because I have this crazy beast
of another dog that's like,
my whole plan with him was to get good training
and everything was chaotic and then harnessing that in
and maintaining control.
Like my little dog's been really easy,
but at the same time, it's been difficult for me
because there's certain things that I have to do differently
with this little dog than I did training the big dog.
So the little dog, I have to be extremely happy
and like, whoo, who to be like extremely happy and like,
whoo, whoo, whoo.
Like after like, he will not come to me.
Like he won't recall to me unless I have like this really high effeminate voice.
And it's really masculine.
So that was when you get a chick dog, bro.
Exactly.
That's where they come from.
I seriously didn't even like consider that, but I was like out at the dog part with my friend.
And like he was, he was running off, and I'm like,
Finn, get over Finn, calm!
And of course, he looks back and then I'm like,
Finn!
What?
It just starts running right to me.
No!
He's so cute, dude.
He's the cutest.
I can't handle it.
Speaking of training, still getting great messages from people going through the NCI certificate.
I just spoke about wisdom and knowledge.
Yeah, that's what they do well.
That's it, just hit me right now.
They try to take the knowledge of coaching online,
but apply it through wisdom, which means,
okay, it's great, you know all this stuff.
How do you coach people?
Like how do you communicate it to clients?
That's a big part of their process.
And so I'm getting good messages from
our friends.
I actually had a really good call with Jason yesterday and just talking about the future
of our partnership. And he was just kind of asking my feedback because we're coming up
on a year that we've been working together. And he's asking some of the things that I
thought that they could do to help support our audience. And I said moving in a direction
where I said, I think obviously with this pandemic, I said, it's accelerated
this. I thought we were moving this direction anyways. But many trainers are, you know, moving
away from training a lot in person and more virtual and trying to figure out how to do
how to make that transition, how to scale that business. I said, I think you have a lot
of wisdom around that. You've coached a lot of other coaches. And I said, and you guys
offer a platform that is great for educating many of other coaches. And I said, and you guys offer a platform
that is great for educating many of these trainers.
So I think more things, more either free content
that's around it, or even paid content
that you guys create around that.
I think we'd probably want to be one of the best things
that we do in 2021.
And he was pretty pumped about it.
We got a call again today to kind of follow up
and probably start putting some of that stuff in motion.
Yeah, one of the biggest questions I get from trainer,
because one thing I love about trainers
is that what makes them trainers
is that they really want to help people.
It's like the number one driver care about people.
Yeah, and one of the big questions I get is
how do I provide as much value virtually as I can in person?
And that is a big challenge.
That's a big challenge to be met.
But I think there are, you just have to change the way you approach things.
It's a completely different,
there are different obstacles,
but I think it's possible.
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First question is from ZT-Rone32.
What can you do to get better at the overhead press?
The Z press.
Oh, the Z press is great.
The Z press is great.
The Z press and just start with lightweight,
if you have to, like, you know,
real, real, just the bar, you know.
Did I got one for you?
Because okay, so aside from pressing more often
in practicing different rep ranges
and doing different versions of presses,
kettlebells, dumbbell presses, kettlebells,
dumbbells, barbells.
The one thing that I ever did that gave me the biggest immediate impact were overhead
carries.
It gave me right away I saw an improvement in my overhead presses from doing different
versions of carries, either the ones where I have a really heavy kettlebell racked on one side
or both arms and maintaining tension and carrying or especially pressing kettlebells dumbbells
or something up above my head and then walking just holding that top position, that tension.
I saw like a 10 pound increase in my, and I'm talking about this is way later in my lifting
career when adding five pounds is a big deal. I saw my lift go up 10 pounds. Like the first thing was like two
weeks after I started doing overhead carries.
Yeah, I had this very similar experience with that. And really it was about being able
to stabilize in that top position. I think is so crucial. And again, that's addressed
with the Z-Press. Like you really have to put the work in in terms of how you're bracing
and how everything is holding in things in place
for that to occur.
And so, you know, to hold something overhead
and really train yourself to hold that
for a period of time helps tremendously with that.
But you gotta think of the overall joint of the shoulder.
And so this is why again, here's my button
that I'm always hammering
is rotation. And so for me, the biggest unlocking factor to success with overhead press for
me was really starting to work more into that natural rotation that my shoulder wants to
get through and then add little bits of resistance to that, which people don't understand that
you can add little bits of resistance and strengthen the rotators and do it in a safe and effective manner where
all of that pours right back into the overall strength and stability and support.
Totally.
A huge limiting factor for a lot of people with an overhead presses or mobility issues.
So, you know, and I've seen this with clients and I've seen this even with myself
because when I first started working out,
I did a lot of bodybuilding type movements
and I wasn't focusing a lot on full range of motion.
And here's how you know, right?
So you could do something like a wall test.
And I know we did a wall test in our maps prime webinar.com.
And if you do a wall test and you find that difficult,
what you run into when
you do an overhead press with a barbell or dumbbells is you have resistance from your
own body. So you actually see this sometimes, you can take someone, even with a lot of muscle,
have them straighten their arm up above their head, but also have them straighten out
their spine, maintain good posture. And without any weight, they find difficulty keeping
their arm in that position. That's resistance that is happening to your arm
and your shoulder without you actually holding away.
So you are lifting, let's say, 10 pounds less than you can
because of this internal lack of stability and mobility.
So stability and mobility make a huge difference
for a lot of people.
In fact, even simple like like, external rotation exercises,
like rotator cuff exercises, they know the ones
that the physical therapist will give you,
where you grab the bands and you externally rotate,
that type of stuff.
Even something like that, sometimes you'll see someone
practice that, and they'll overhead press,
they'll go up five or 10 pounds,
because the limiting factor was that their stability
wasn't good, that they had poor mobility,
and that's more, some exercises, it's more common than others.
The ability provides more force production.
Totally.
And I think it was shoulders that it's 99% of the time.
Oh yeah, it's very rare that when someone asks
a question like this that has anything else to do,
it's not the lack of certain exercise you're doing,
it's not anything more than that.
Most people are very uncomfortable with a full extension
above their head, with their shoulder
in the right position, exercises like Z-Press,
I think are incredible, that a good movement
to start before you go into that, Retro Lift.
Like so I love Retro Lift to kind of prime
before you go into one of these movements that were,
and then if you do Retro Lift,
the overhead carries the Z-press,
and then like Justin's Arnold press
with kettlebells or whatever,
those movements phenomenal for that.
Absolutely.
Next question is from Cat L. S.
How do I fix an imbalance between my left and right lats?
Same way you would work on an imbalance
with any right to left muscle, which is to place
more emphasis on the weaker, smaller side.
Now here's the challenge with this.
The challenge is, and I know, because I ran into this too, as a younger lifter, you're
afraid you're going to slow down your gains because you're focusing on the weaker side.
You're not.
The bigger side isn't going to shrink
to match the smaller side. It's just that you're going to get the smaller side to speed up a little bit.
One way you can do this, and I remember Adam bringing this up on the podcast a long time ago,
as a physique competitor, this is something he had to focus heavily on because he was getting judged
by his physique on stage, was to do unilateral exercises, so one arm or one
legate exercises, right? So in this case it'd be one arm and then allow the
weaker side to dictate the weight and the reps. So if I'm doing like a one arm
row or one arm pull down with perfect form and the most I can do is a hundred
pounds for you know twelve reps with my weaker side that's what I'm going to do
with my stronger side even if I could do more 12 reps with my weaker side, that's what I'm going to do with my stronger
side. Even if I could do more than that with the stronger side, I'm going to stop there. So it's
the weaker side that's dictating the sets and the reps. And then what'll happen, you'll find
by doing it this way, is it actually catches up? It actually does catch up pretty quickly, you know,
to do it this way. So exercises. Rose, you said lap. I mean, literally almost everything that you would do with both your hands, you could
do by yourself.
So a seated single arm row, a lap pull down, single arm row, a dumbbell row, a hammer strength.
I mean, all those, there's tons of exercises that you can do, almost anything that you
could do with a barbell that you would do for your back, you could do with single arm
with a barbell that you would do for your back, you could do with single arm with a dumbbell.
And so this is a perfect time to make your routine be all unilateral for a while. And I had to do this for my shoulders.
I had to do this for my chest.
I had to do this for my biceps, all at different periods of my training career.
Did you just get you just get a voided barbell?
Yeah.
I just avoid it, avoid it for a while.
And honestly, it only took, I want to say three to six months.
I can't remember, each one was probably a little bit different,
but just simply focusing all on unilateral,
so one arm, one leg, like you said,
at a time in your routine,
getting rid of the barbell stuff for a while,
because this is a priority, right?
I know you hear us talk on the show
of time about barbell, so it's barbell, barbell, barbell.
But that's why there's always exceptions to the rule.
Like if someone's asking me, oh, you say you would need to do barbell exercises, barbell, barbell, barbell. But that's why there's always exceptions to the rule. Like if someone's asking me,
oh, you say you would need to do barbell exercises all the time,
but then you guys say to do dumbbell exercises
and get rid of barbell exercises,
well, that's because this person right here,
this is an example of this now takes over a priority
of what exercise technically would build
the most muscle on their body,
and it's more, let's get it balanced out,
then we can go back to those barbell movements.
Right, and also to, I guess I just think,
I think also about posture and what maybe,
maybe a block in that process in terms of unlocking
more potential for you to gain access to your lat.
So what if like your chest, for instance,
and your pecs are a bit tighter on your other side.
You really need to do the work of mobility and assessing where those deficiencies may
lie.
If there's any asymmetry or anything within your posture that you can realign in order
for you now to then really be able to focus on gaining more connectivity towards the
lot.
Next question is from Beck Pastore.
What value does a cool down provide after a workout?
What is the best way to cool down?
Okay, so cooling down, if you had to compare it to priming, I don't think it's as important,
but it does have some value from a muscle building perspective.
Static stretching, first off, this is when you do it.
You would do the static stretching
at the end of the workout.
So if you just worked out your back or your chest,
now you're gonna slow down
and you're gonna focus on these long stretches
of this muscle, especially if it's pumped,
studies show that this does contribute
to more muscle growth and better recovery.
So that's part of it.
The other part of it is it gets you into that state of recovery a little bit faster and
better in a more organized way rather than stopping and work out all of a sudden cold
and then moving to the next thing.
You have a process of allowing your body to come down to a better state.
Now for endurance athletes, a little bit more valuable.
You tend to get this blood pooling effect
in your extremities when you're running or cycling a lot,
and so cooldowns can prevent some of the dizziness
that some of them would experience after cycling.
So rather than like doing a hard cycle
and then just stopping, they would do a hard cycle
and then kind of slow down.
But in my experience,
cooldowns are excellent for doing correctional static stretching,
improving range of motion,
and then accelerating muscle growth
through that static stretching period.
I think there's a lot of opportunity here.
I think that this is definitely an overlooked aspect
of working out and training in general
to where yeah, you can bring yourself down into that more parasympathetic state. And for athletes, how beneficial is that when you can control your body and be able to get
yourself into that state a little bit more effectively, a little more efficiently and train your
way there? And I think a good way to do that would be to really implement these cool downs
in your workout and start training your body
how to respond like that.
So if you're in a really rigorous activity and event
to be able to then calm the system down
and regenerate some energy,
I think that would be massively beneficial.
Well, I think it all depends on what, who you are.
You weaken warrior person who kind of just is approaching,
working out and just trying to stay healthy and fit,
but balance lifestyle.
And that person to me, if you're getting the main lifts in,
you're eating well, sleeping well,
you're taking care of the big rocks.
I don't think this is that big of a deal.
If you are a competitor, if you're somebody who's competing
and you're looking for the competitive edge,
whether that be sport or building a physique
and looking to maximize auto-hands.
This does matter.
And men are a lot actually.
I mean, you guys both are pointing about
the parasympathetic system.
Getting into that state allows you body to start to recover.
Until you're in that state,
you haven't started the recovery process.
So let's just use hypothetical numbers
and just pretend that you go and you don't do a cool down
and say it takes a half hour to an hour
before your body actually switches over into that system
and says, okay, we've calmed down now.
He's no longer hammering me with weights
or running on the treadmill or beating me up.
It's no longer stress time.
Now it's time to start recovering and rebuilding.
And let's say that's a,
it takes your body naturally,
half hour, hour to do that.
And let's say when you do cooldowns,
it only takes it 15 minutes to do that
because you did a cooldown process.
Now that 15 minutes of recovery times five to
seven days a week times 30 days a month times 300, you know, in a year, that shit really
starts out. So if you are a competitive athlete or looking for the next step, this stuff
does make a huge difference. And this is where things like, you know, cryotherapy and
ice baths and infrared saw all these tools really start to come in a play
where man, these can be difference makers for somebody
who is trying to take their recovery
and take their training tool, another level.
So that with LeBron James is all his money
he poured into that direction and did make a massive difference.
Yeah, you know, it's funny is that body builders
instinctively have done this for a long time.
But there's like a ritual, especially in the older days of bodybuilding.
After a workout, they would go out and they'd eat a big meal and go lay out in the sun.
That's what they did, right? Or after a hard workout, I have, by the way, eating is parasympathetic,
right? When you eat food, it kicks in this, this digest, rest in digest is what parasympathetic stands for or kind of does. And bodybuilders, again, they've done this
instinctively. Every time I, when I work out, one of my favorite things to do, and this
is even after I understood that eating after I work out isn't as important as I'm really
making a huge difference. I still like the process of, I just had a hard workout, now
let me relax and eat. It's really part of the cooldown process
from an instinctual perspective.
Next question is from Neal, Robert Curran.
Can you recommend a good shoe for squatting and deadlifting?
Does it make a difference or would you bother?
Different shoes for these here.
Yeah, it really depends on the person too.
So ideally, okay, let's say you have great mobility,
great stability, good foot strength,
everything looks good, barefoot or as barefoot,
as close to barefoot as possible,
would be best for all lifts.
Because flexible flat sole.
Yeah, because you're working with your feet are strong,
your ankle mobility is good, hip mobility is good,
everything looks good.
Now what you don't want is you don't want something
under your foot that's going to be a crutch or prevent you from strengthening all your stability, right?
But that's not typically the case, right?
With most people, they have issues.
And so let's say you have bad ankle and foot mobility and strength and you go and try and
do barefoot deadlifting or barefoot squatting, especially.
You might hurt yourself.
So in that case, you might want to transition and start with something that has a strong
stable soul, especially for squatting, something that maybe has a little bit of a heel rise
in it.
So squat shoes, very stable, little bit of a heel rise.
I don't think you should stay there.
I think you should slowly and gradually work on your income mobility and your foot mobility
in order to do that. Deadlifts, you probably do want a nice strong soul,
but flat because you want to be lower to the ground.
If you have a little bit of a rise in your,
and deadlifts don't require nearly
as much income mobility of squats to.
And also if you have a rise in your heel,
it just throws your weight forward anyway,
which makes it the deadlift.
Yeah, no, that's effective.
You have to dress this, because it's a popular thing I anyway, which makes it the deadlift. Yeah, no, that's the fact. I mean, you have to dress this,
because it's a popular thing I see.
I don't know why this is common.
And maybe just because I think the people
that buy the shoes don't understand,
using a squat shoes with heel raises in a deadlift is silly.
It's, you're making it more challenging for yourself.
Yeah, I know.
You're not helping yourself whatsoever.
You want to be lower.
Yeah, you want to be as close to the ground
as your heels as flat as possible
Yeah, you're you're adding an extra inch of pool that you have to do now. So
Squat shoes while that's what they're called squat shoes and not deadlift shoes
You know wearing those shoes while you're also deadlifting is not ideal You know, it's interesting though like so when Sal was actually the first person to introduce
Squat shoes to me again., I was never into powerlifting,
even lifting very heavy.
And this was back when we were really picking apart my squat
and trying to improve it.
And Sal was like, you should really try these squat shoes
to see if it really helps you out.
And boy, it was, it was a game changer for me
because I lacked the ankle mobility.
And so I went on a kick for a while
where I was wanting squat shoes a lot when I was squatting
because it did feel a lot better.
Because it did.
It was crutching my lack of mobility in my ankles.
Then I went on that whole hardcore kick
of working on my mobility, got rid of the shoes,
didn't do it all, trained a lot of barefoot training.
Now what I love to do, because I train mostly in chucks
or barefoot most of the time,
but every once in a while,
I'll go to do like some heavy squats
and I'll throw those squat shoes on and it's like. It's like a turbo. Yeah, it's in a while, I'll go to do like some heavy squats and I'll throw those squat shoes on and it's like a turbo.
Yeah, it's like a turt.
It's like, because now I'm getting an extra inch that I don't have to squat in a sense,
right?
When you think about that, I have less range of motion that my knee has to travel.
And so it's easier.
So if I've done a good job of working on my ankle and hip mobility for a long time consistently,
which I have, and most of the time squatting in flat shoes
or barefoot, every once in a while,
when I throw them squat shoes on,
it's like, it reminds me of the feeling of having the belt,
not having the belt.
It's like when you train mostly without a belt,
then you go throw that sucker on there once a while.
It's like, oh, you get a little extra gear out of it.
So.
Yeah, it's interesting,
because I mean, I probably wore running shoes
and like cross trainers a lot in my career
just because the athletic background and whatnot,
like it was a lot more movement based and running
and, you know, athleticism and all that kind of stuff.
And when I actually was in this gym,
I saw a lot of my coworkers wearing chucks
and like they were doing everything in chucks
or these like those five finger shoes. And I, I you know I was the guy making fun of them and you know all that kind of stuff.
But it was starting to realize I mean the having running shoes, running shoes are literally
engineered to get you to be able to move forward. Like everything is moving forward, nothing is considered
side-to-side- and side cushioned. And cushioned.
And so it's like, I mean, I can't tell you how many times
I almost rolled my ankle just going side to side
or twisting or rotating or doing anything.
I go, that's the worst shoe that you could train in.
So I just wanted to throw that out there.
It's very point.
Oh, dude, you ever see someone heavy squat
and they've got like Nike Max Air running shoe?
It's like they're standing on Dynadisk.
They've got this. Yeah, you don't want to use running shoes. It's like they're standing on dinodiscs.
They've got these.
You don't want to use running shoes for heavy lifting
because there's so much cushion that they're unstable.
That's what you're trying to do.
And at Justin's point, left to right,
which is where you see those injuries have.
Lots of injuries in that direction.
And have you guys seen the deadlift shoes
that power lift was used?
Just back to what you were saying about
not wearing squat shoes.
Deadlift shoes, have you seen them?
They look like socks.
That's how thin they make the sole
because you want to be flat and low to the ground.
So yeah, don't wear anything with the heel rise
if you're deadlifting.
I work out my garage.
That's when I go barefoot.
I take off my shoes.
Flat chair foot is liberating.
I mean, you gotta work your way there,
but it's definitely a whole nother experience.
Absolutely.
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