Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1408: Building a Great Body Using Only Isolation Movements, Correcting a Weak Upper Back, the Advantages of Mini-Cuts & Mini-Bulks Vs. Longer Ones & More

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the advantages of using compound lifts when one can build a good looking body with isolation movements, what causes the small muscles in the upper back and the rotator cuff not to strengthen, how mini bulks and cuts compare to traditional 3-month intervals of bulking and leaning out, and thoughts on Gymshark sponsoring gamers. Annoying things with Mind Pump. (5:32) How pregnant women get treated VERY differently in society, tips to get out of traffic tickets & MORE. (17:34) The many charlatans in the biohacking space and how Ben Greenfield stands above the crowd. (22:30) Mind Pump Recommends, No Safe Spaces. (28:23) Monopoly, teaching kids how to invest since 1935. (34:32) The Andrews versus the raccoon. (36:34) ButcherBox lovers, make sure to check their add-ons! (38:26) Understanding the value of money. (39:47) Weird News with Sal. (43:20) Studies with Sal. (45:35) Conspiracy Theory Corner with Mind Pump. (50:05) The impact of glyphosates on the microbiome and what Mind Pump’s sponsor Organifi is doing to combat that. (52:02) #Quah question #1 – Why should I do compound lifts when I can build a good looking body with isolation movements? (56:19) #Quah question #2 - What causes the small muscles in your upper back and rotator cuff not to strengthen, resulting in shoulder pain? (1:02:53) #Quah question #3 – How do mini bulks and cuts compare to traditional 3-month intervals of bulking and leaning out? (1:10:22) #Quah question #4 – What do you think about Gymshark now sponsoring gamers? (1:14:41) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Special: MAPS Anabolic and No BS 6-Pack Formula Ben Greenfield Biohacking Masterclass No Safe Spaces - Watch Now Evergreen copes with fallout, months after ‘Day of Absence’ sparked national debate The Haunting of Bly Manor | Netflix Official Site Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! $ 9 Trillion Story: 22% of US Dollars Printed in 2020! How an Economy Grows and Why It Crashes – Book by Peter Schiff Mind Pump #1270: Peter Schiff On The Post COVID-19 Economy & How To Thrive SEX BANNED FOR COUPLES LIVING APART IN TIER TWO AND THREE AREAS UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS Study underscores the gut-brain connection and shows hunger hormone impacts memory Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** ORGANIFI® CELEBRATES 6TH ANNIVERSARY WITH ANNOUNCEMENT OF PACKAGING REBRAND TO HIGHLIGHT QUALITY INGREDIENTS MAPS Prime Pro Webinar How To Use Mini Cuts & Mini Bulks To Maximize Gains How Gymshark Became A $1.3 Billion Brand, And What We Can Learn Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Bret Weinstein Peter Schiff (@PeterSchiff)  Twitter Chris Duffin (@mad_scientist_duffin)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You're listening to Mind Pump the World's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. Hello! Today's episode, we answered four fitness and health questions that were asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode is with an introductory portion where we talk about current events and studies.

Sometimes we mention our sponsors. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you a breakdown of today's episode. By the way, you can go to MindPumpPodcast.com and fast forward to your favorite part. Everything is timestamps. If you just want to hear the fitness stuff fast forward, but I recommend you listen from beginning to end because that's the way we think everybody would. That's how we made it.

So we start out by talking about annoying things. So we have fun conversation about that. Then we talk about biohacking. By the way, Ben Greenfield, our good friend, is the world's best biohacker. He's got integrity. Integrity, super smart. And he actually lives the way that he preaches.

He has a master class on biohacking that goes over hormones and diet and brain health and much, much more. And because you listen to Mind Pump, we gotta hook up for you. So here's what you do. Go to getkeon.com, that's g-e-t-k-i-o-n.com. And then forward slash B-m-c. Mind pump. That's a letter B. The letter m is a Mary C. Mind pump. Go check out his masterclass. It's really

cool. Then we talk about the documentary by Adam Corolla. No safe spaces. Really, really good. Then we talk about passive income goals and how monopoly, the game monopoly teaches you about passive income and the value of it. Then we talk about Justin getting freaked out at home by the raccoon, he's scared of animals. Then we talk about... Just that one.

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Then we talked about how 22% of all dollars ever created were created in 2020. There's not gonna be any negative effects from that. Serious printing going on right now. We'll see what happens. Then I talk about the UK's new sex laws. Oh, you guys over there. Crazy people.

Shagging like crazy. Then I talk about a new study on Grellen. This is the hormone that regulates appetite. And then I talk about glyphosates, those things that they spray all over plants to kill weeds but may actually be harming your microbiome and maybe even your gut. Ooh, it's affecting me. By the way, Organifies a supplement company that makes organic products,

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and then use the code Mind Pump. All right, that was the intro. Then we answered some questions for fitness. Here's the first one. Why should I do compound lifts if I can develop an amazing body doing isolation lifts? They're hard.

Next question. What causes the small muscles in your shoulders and upper back to get injured When you're doing things like bench presses and overhead presses By the way, we have a webinar where we can teach you some and it's free It's a class that teaches you mobility moves. You just go to primeprowebinar.com Next question, how do many bulks and many cuts compared to long balks or many. Long cuts, in other words, is it better to diet

for short periods of time or to diet for long periods of time? And the final question, this person's asking us a business question, what do we think about gym sharks now sponsoring or gym shark, I should say now sponsoring gamers? So I actually talked about it like there's sharks in the gym or something. They're coming for you. Watch out for the gym sharks.

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doesn't blow your mind, just return it for a full refund. If you want this discount offer, go to mapsoctober.com. Again, that's maps. M-A-P-S-October.com. Hey, speaking of annoying things, you guys want to know what's annoying? I love annoying things. It's just one of those little things that happens that you just, I think you just forget to, you know, you just, they annoy the shatter you and then you forget and it happens again and whatever. You know, you go to the bathroom the bathroom right public bathroom and you put the

I know I'm not a very like I don't get grossed out very easily when it comes to that kind of stuff I worked in construction sites on my dad. So not a big deal. That is the ultimate cesspool. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, if you if you ever work in construction sites your standards and then the one with like the pictures taped on the inside of the door Okay, I've worked in really gross Uncomfortable. Oh, what kind of pictures? Oh, yeah, like naked lady pictures Why are we doing here like this is a work site, you know, I've seen that appropriate No, I haven't seen that I remember that once my I was like 13 and my dad took me to a work site or whatever and They have outhouses or what do they call me to a work site or whatever and they have out houses or what are they called porta potty's or whatever and

Yeah, dude you close the door and they're like they think stuck they would stick pictures on the on the side of the door some disgusting dudes at the Like decor. I was like, yeah my mom's like man. You're up early for you working with your dad. Why so excited? I'm really gonna work. Oh, you're still taking a dump in there. What's happening? I'm going to mix all the cement. But anyway, no, I hate this. You put the, what's it called, the seat cover? The toilet. Is that what it's called? Isn't that called a toilet dug?

I don't know. I don't know. It does everything. Well, he corrects me on everything. What is he saying the other day that I was all fucked up? I was like, I didn't even know that so far. I can't keep track. Fuck off, Doug.

And that's the truth. Anyway, I didn't even know that so far. I can't keep track. Fuck off, Doug. And that's the truth. Anyway, I think it's, I don't know, it's called can liner, whatever you want to call it. Sure. But you put it, is it ever happening? You put it on. By the time you turn around to sit down,

it slides down into the toilet. You see just, it's cold seat. Yeah. Cold bear seat. Or like leftover wet stuff. Oh, or it's half on the toilet seat and half in the water. And so the water substance is absorbed up into it. Oh, yeah, it starts coming up. Oh, or it's half on the toilet seat and half in the water. And so the water substance is absorbed up there. Oh, yeah, it starts coming up.

Oh, I'm having a nap. So I might have sat on COVID. So I just want to warn you guys when I do that. But I hate that. I satize that, because that's the worst ever. But then you close, you work in gyms. I worked in gyms forever. So public bathrooms don't ever bother me.

But that does. I don't like to feel cold plastic on my cheeks. Oh, yeah, I had an annoying, so I got cut off by this lady this morning in a Prius, you know, like weird. Yeah, I was. Weird, right? The worst part is I was like jamming, you know,

and there was this, there was like a truck that was going really slow obviously, and she decided just, just right in front of me, no turn signal, no nothing, and then went slower than the person on the other lane. And I was like, this is a deliberate, like, you know, she had a decision where I'm, I'm gonna cut you off, I'm gonna go really slow.

Did you do the right thing and terrify her? Yeah. You did it, and lost the truck over her car. I did it. I just, I, oh! Can I say this? I think this is a fact of observed this now, I don't know, at least a dozen times.

Prius drivers are the worst drivers. I agree. Have you guys noticed that? I've called my sister-in-law on that, too. She had one. She had one. I don't know what it is. She had one, and it's, yeah, it's a different mindset.

I've seen more Prius' speed cut people off, and just do, I don't understand what it is. Maybe because you feel like, because you're doing good for the environment, you can be an asshole everywhere. You're better than people. You're the to be a asshole everywhere. You're better than people. You're just running on these like little, you know, fart fumes.

That's the sound. That's the sound. You know those are such a scam. You know that, right? The cost and the. Yeah, I remember when I bought my corolla. I was going down when you were pimping. Yeah, hard core.

Yeah. No, there was. I went through it. This was a. Thisolla, I was going down. It's back when you were pimping. Yeah, hard car, yeah. No, I went through it. This was, this is, let's see here. When I know that Corolla was, I don't know. That's the math sound, by the way. Yeah, that's my head. It's just the math. I think it was about 10 to 12 years ago.

Somewhere around there, I decided that, okay, I'm gonna get a practical car. Up into this point, I was all about like my dream cars or whatever car, really, really what I drive. I'm like, you know, I was all about like my dream cars or whatever car, really, really what I drive. I'm like, you know what, I need to be responsible now. I'm getting older and I'm gonna go buy a good car. A car that gets good gas and that's reliable long-term.

Like, who cares what it looks like, doesn't need to be cool. And so... So, who is this guy? I know, I know, that's weird. Well, I did have, you know, I still had the, the Integra and the trucks. It's the third car, right? So it's like, okay, I've got the two other cars that I thought were cool at the time

that now I need to have a practical car that I drive most of the time to save the life on the other two cars and then to save on the gas. So, and what really kicked it off for me to go down there and do that was this was during the time I used to bank with Wells Fargo and this was right, this is dating ourselves, right? This is right when the I used to bank with Wells Fargo and this was right, this is dating ourselves, right? This is right when the banks started to do this. Now every bank does this now, so if you're young, you're like, this guy's fucking.

Back when banks were invented. Yeah, this is when, you remember when, Washington Mutual started. I mean, do you guys remember that when banks started to do this, Doug maybe Doug's probably, he's more into this stuff. When they started to track for you, all of your gas bills. Oh, they'll break it down. Yeah, they'll break it down for you, all of your gas bills.

Oh, they'll break it down. Yeah, they'll break it down for you. Yeah, I remember that. Okay, you remember that, right? I do. That was in the last, you know, two decades that happened before that they didn't do stuff like that. So, I remember the first time that I looked at that.

And up at that point, I've always worked hard. My thought process was, I'll just work so hard that I have always have enough money to pay my bills and I live below my means so I'm okay and I always have money in the savings. So I don't think about my day-to-day spend until that came out and I look and that time I was driving this big lifted truck

and I was driving up to Tahoe all the time into the lake. And I mean, I was taking trips everywhere and I was spending $750 to $800 a month on gas. And I was like, holy shit, that's a lot of money back there too. Yeah, no, there's a lot of money back then. There's a lot of money, but today, right? That's a lot of money on gas, right? So it's be spending, you know, $200 a week in gas.

Yeah. And that's because the truck used to get like, I want to say, $15 to $18 miles per gallon. So, you know, I get on the calculator and I start doing this, like, okay, wait a second. So that's $800 a month that I'm spending just on gas. If I split the driving in half and did it with a car that got 30 miles to the gallon, it would negate a car payment of up to $300. And like literally the next day I was shopping for a car. I was

like, I could get a brand new car. as long as the monthly payment was under $400. I drove it 50% of time. I would not spend any more money a month and I'd have another vehicle. And you saved the life of your old and I would say truck or whatever. I was shopping the next day. And so of course at that time,

Prius's were really popular. That's what was the best gas saver at the time and that was blowing up in popular. And so I'm like, even though I didn't like it, I thought it was an ugly car. I'm like, I'm going down here to save money. So I drive down there to go buy one, and I'm on the lot at Toyota.

And they're talking to the salesman and he's presenting how much it costs. And oh, if you want to get this upgraded battery, then it'll take you to like 50 miles a gallon. And when I'm looking at the final sticker price, it's like $20,000 more than like their Toyota Corolla, which is a regular gas call. All you have to do is drive it for 35 years.

And then you take it back. That's exact. So I did the math again. And I'm like, okay, so if it's $20,000 more than this Corolla, that it would have to get this much more miles for gallon, it would take me, and then I was like, holy shit. At year 20, I finally break even. Like, does he make sense?

I'm like, I only have this car for 20 years, you know? And also, you could get an old back then. Now the cars are even better, right? Now they're even more efficient stuff, but this is when they first came out, didn't make any sense across the board. You could get better gas mileage and have a lower carbon footprint

or a smaller carbon footprint, with like a 1991 Civic Honda. For reals, like for reals, it didn't make any sense, but people were buying them because it was a bit of a status symbol, like look back then. That's how I felt about it. And that's how this is. And you know how wasteful the batteries,

when they feel the battery's doing? What do you do? You get a recycle them. Yeah, and that's a big, it takes a lot of energy to do that. It does, now they're a lot better now, but that's when they, when they first, I don't remember. Do you remember, you guys remember that one time,

I remember when we drove, and we, there were no parking, and then you finally found it, we were with you Adam, you were driving your truck. You finally found a parking spot, didn't notice that it was a electric vehicle only. It said a whole foods too. Yeah, it's an electric vehicle only parking spot and they had like the they had the electric pump or whatever he puts it in his window like like there's some kind of outlet

inside no we park and then we get out I'm like oh we're all out already and we've been we're late you know I'm like oh shit Adam's already walking into the store I'm like bro I'm like I don't know if we could park here it's's electric only. How many environmental people's heads explain that's why he's pissed off right? Cause like, I have to find more parking so he walks over and instead of moving the car and takes the electric thing, sticks it in his window and we go in the stover. Oh, you know that triggered something. You know that triggered something. Dude, it's, I'm fine. If like, that's your thing and you're trying to, whatever, the environment, but dude, the fast lane is the fast lane

Get don't be cut me off and go slow. I was so angry. No, I I appreciate that kind of stuff But I got I got blasted once because first of all I have this personality trait Good or bad. I don't like being told what to do just a thing that I have to deal with Did you see my? You on that yeah, yes day for yesterday. No, would my story here? Did you see my story here? Did you see my story here? Did you see my story here? Did you see my story here? Did you see my story here?

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He is the type of person. Just because you pointed out. Yeah, if you pointed out and you tell him he should do something, he is the type of guy that even if it was a good idea or he might want to do it, he won't do it just because of that. That's so bad. It happened with us with Game of Thrones Tell me you're not that guy. I know. It's true dude. It's a it's a it's a flaw. It's a big thing I have to work on so I happen to be once again

I was at another parking lot and there was no parking and I know the loss right So I know that the parking laws, like when it says, parking for electric vehicles only, like there is no law to support that. That's right. So anybody could park there. There's nothing you'd do to do the same thing though. Now you can, you can, you should, this is me being like self-aware, calm, podcast-sal, right? You should.

It's a private company. It's probably a good idea to respect what they want to do. That's a good thing. But in the moment, when I'm annoyed, and there's no parking, and I good idea to respect what they want to do. That's a good thing. But in the moment when I'm annoyed and there's no parking and I feel like I'm being told what to do. And there's eight electric parking's wide open. Yeah, and they're wide open. I'm like, I'm parking here.

Anyway, I came out of the store and this lady was waiting for me, like with the arms crossed, just standing by my car. And she's like, this is electric vehicle only. And I'm like, already I'm irritated. Cause I'm like, you waited. Tell me this. Yeah.

So I'm like, this is like her final stance. Yeah, I'm like, oh, sorry, I didn't read the sign. I just, you didn't see the big sign. I'm like, ugh. Oh man. I mean, she's right. Yeah, I've been confronted with the E cart parking too for grocery stores.

I'm like, this is bullshit. Yeah. I'm parking here. That's why you just, that's why you just take it in the window. Yeah. Yeah. She I'm parking here. That's why you just, that's why you just take it in the window. Yeah. Yeah. You should have done that. The worst one, the worst offender

is the Chipotle burrito loading zone. Like what the fuck is this? Yeah. Okay, I have 100% parking here and not paying attention to whatever bullshit you just made up. Okay, you can't do that. The loading zone. I'm gonna load it in my stomach. So, obviously I'm following the rules that you just made up. You can't do that. Loading zone. I'm going to load it in my stomach. So,

obviously I'm following the rules that you just made up. You know which one I always respect though? The pregnant woman. Oh yeah. I always respect that guy. You don't want to be that guy. No, that's a big asshole. You take a spot for a pregnant woman. Although target has way too many of those. It's a lot. Yeah, they have way too many. I mean, they look at their demographic. So they get like 12 of those parking spots. They come on, what are the chances of 12 pregnant ladies to come on right now? Hey, I don't know.

Speaking of pregnant, dude, pregnant, I forgot this, pregnant women get treated very, very differently in society. Then like, I don't care where we're at. If I'm with Jessica, she's obviously, we're ready to pop any second, right? And so she's been very visibly pregnant now for a little while. If there's any line, I don't care what it's for.

Any line, everybody, she can move to the front. Women are so nice to her, in which I'm gonna make a generalization. Typically in public, women can be a little mean to each other. You can just feel it, you can see a little bit Not when she's pregnant everything can I hold that for you? Can I care? Isn't it don't you? I find that really interesting especially you love to talk about evolution It makes sense right it does I think I think about it when there was only 10 of us Yeah, you know, and then the one lady who got pregnant it's like oh my god

You were you were helping us survive and there you are gonna look out for it They do they and I love seeing that. I love seeing that. It makes me feel good about humanity that pregnant women get, you know, taking care of that. We were at Santana Row, and I don't know. Have you guys been there, by the way, lately? At night, it's packed. Oh, I did go there, actually.

Everything's outside, cracking. They had DJ outside. It's packed, I think people are just so, they wanna be outside, right? So we go there and we didn't make reservations. I don't know. I should need to make reservations. I have dinner at five, five p.m.s, kind of early. Wow.

But we go there and every restaurant that we checked, we checked like four. Mm-hmm. They wouldn't even allow walk-ins. It's our book all night. Yeah. Finally, a family that had a wait. It was a two-hour wait. Wow.

And now Jessica's like, hungry. She's pregnant with my family. I'm like, oh my god, what do we do? And so I told her, she's honey, as it trust me. Just go up to the front and just ask the host how long the weight is. I said, hold your belly. And just do this. I think a Braxton Hicks real quick.

I just just be like, oh, and just do this. Just be like, oh, really? I'm so hungry. Just say that. Worked. They totally cut us all in front of them. That's amazing. The closest guys have, and I've experienced this, is when you in front of them. That's amazing. The closest guys have

and I've experienced this is when you have a classic car. That's true. Or diarrhea. Yeah, looking at those two. Okay, well, that's totally different story. You have to sell that out of the car. Yeah, the classic car people are just like, oh, hey, awesome. Yeah. Oh, please get in front of me. You know, park here. Let me carry this for you. I agree. I agree, though, yeah, you got it. Actually, that's how you get out of a ticket, dude. That's the move.

Really? Yeah, that's the move. Have you done that? Yeah, if cop pulls you over. Oh my god, oh yeah, I ate some, you know what's crazy, though? I found out not like trying to be an asshole. Like it was true one time, you know? Speeding like crazy, get pulled over,

and like my stomach was just tore up. It was true story. Yeah. So, you know, maybe I abused that a few times. Wait, so you've actually gotten out of tickets more than once? By saying you had dialed out. When I was in my, when I, from 17 to, I don't know, probably 24. I'm not trying this.

Probably, probably almost 10 years. I, I had that. I had that. You're driving with your girl. Hey, my, my, my girls got diarrhea. You know, put her on her. We got to get there. My girl's not to shit us.

Yeah, you got to hear about it forever. You know, I mean, I feel like everybody can relate to that. Everyone's had that day where it's been bad. I know you tell a cop that, like, oh my God, I'm literally like three minutes from home. And so it works, huh? It does. Wow.

It does. I mean, there's always exceptions to rule. Right. You can have an asshole that pulls you over, but most people understand, you know? And if you weren't doing something completely stupid, and others times when I was young and I was racing my car and doing dumb stuff, no bullshit excuses

was gonna get you out of that. Just make sure you don't be upset. I tried the Wasp one or the bees, you know? What? Yeah, so like I got caught because I kind of swerved around a car through like double yellow lines. Oh, there's a bee in the car. Yeah, and I was just swatting it as he was coming in there.

Like, you know, and then I saw that on a movie and they went, you know, crazy. I think it was like a Chris Farley movie, but yeah, I was like, I totally tried that. That's hilarious. Yeah, you just don't mess up. Like, hey, why are you going so fast? Oh, like I diarrhea.

I drink too much beer. Yeah, I mean, you gotta make sure. Yeah, you don't mess up. Hey, why are you going so fast? Oh, I got diarrhea. I drank too much beer. You gotta make sure you don't say it that way. My dad once tried to get out of a ticket by not speaking English. So he was speeding on a motorcycle. He used to drive really fast, my dad. And he got pulled over. And so he did the whole like, no speaking English.

He speaks broken English, but he's like, no, no, I'm sorry. I don't understand. So he's arguing back and forth with the cop and the cop is like, visibly getting frustrated. He's like, forget it. No, my dad, he's like, I thought I had him. He goes, I could tell, he was pissed off. I could tell he was frustrated.

But I kept telling him I couldn't speed. He said he would get on the radio and he was seeing if other cops in the area spoke Italian. Can't find anybody, of course, where in San Jose it's gonna be hard to find. A cop that speaks Italian. So finally the cop walks over with a blank pad of paper and a pen

and he draws jail. And then he draws a stick figure and he points to my daddy goes, you this, you go here unless you sign this ticket. So I get to sign the ticket. I'm not gonna sign this ticket. So I did sign the ticket. I did it. So it didn't work. So funny.

That's anyway. Hey, I got contacted by an old client who I hadn't trained for a long time. I actually trained her when she was 13 because her mom was my client. And I love working with kids, I also love working with older people and for different reasons. And you know, it's kind of cool when I find, when I talk to old clients

I haven't worked with for a long time and I see that they, it made such an impact that they, their careers now, we're kind of chosen based off that. So she finds me, sends me a DM and she's like, hey, do you remember me? And I'm like, of course I remember you. I'm like, what's going on?

And she's like, oh, I just listened to your podcast. She's like, I couldn't believe. I found Mind Pump. I heard your name and I was like, no way that's my old trainer. And I'm like, so what have you been up to? She's like, well, I'm into training and I'm into biohacking. I'm a huge biohacking like fiend. I love learning about the human body.

I love about maximizing it, whatever. So I'm like, of course, I'm like, did you hear about our podcast through Ben Greenfield? Right. Yeah, exactly. That's where you go first. Yeah, I did. So we were going, we had this whole conversation

about the biohacking space and how just like the fat burning or muscle building space, there's a lot of crap that's out there. And then there's a lot of, now she's one of the smart ones. So she was talking about all the crap that's out there. And we were talking about all the good stuff. And you know, and of all the bio, whatever you want to, category of biohackers, there's really only one guy that I would sit down and kind of trust and talk to you and that's been. I can't think of it. Can you guys think of another one? No, I think that before I saw Charlotteson's in that side of the bit the industry for sure. I think I think collectively we did not like that side of fitness for a long time.

It was Greenfield that got us to really it was because up before Ben anybody else and I'm lumping in the bigger names like Asperin and guys like that that are out there, I am not a fan of. Like we've met them, we've seen how they live their life, we've seen the stuff they promote, and it's based around trying to just continue to make money off of people.

I mean, there's other big rocks that 90% of the population should be focusing on. But there is a percentage of the population that has dialed nutrition, has dialed exercise. He's got to be the most dialed person I know. Right, and then are looking for the next competitive edge for longevity and living a healthier life and quote unquote, biohacking.

And even before we met Ben and we knew of him and we were going out to see him, I was very skeptical. I didn't care for what I'd seen so far. But when we met him, I was blown away. I was blown away because this dude, 100% lives this life. Lives this life. Like real life.

And is brilliant. He's one of the smartest dudes that we've ever met. And so if there is somebody who I want to tell me about the latest Biohack, it is, I text him all the time. If there's something came out or someone hits me up as I'm healing, have you heard of this, supplement, or what do you think about this? He's the guy that all messaged because I know

that he's probably already applied it to his own body. He's actually used it and noted, he makes really good notes from each one of these products and really evaluates the worth of it, which is great. And you can't do that unless you've teased out all the other things. Like people that are probably... Yeah, like if you're not dialing in your diet,

your sleep, and your training, I don't wanna hear about this electrical product that you put up your nose that makes you improve your cognitive performance because I know that sleep diet and exercise are going to affect 90-something percent of that type of stuff. Ben definitely lives it, but here's the challenge with that space is that when you're dealing, because what's biohacking really what it does is that whole space, I wish I had a better word for it,

but they're deal with the cutting edge. So what I mean by that is all the newest, most interesting stuff that comes out, it goes there first. So what this means is, even if you have integrity, you're smart and you do it all, like Ben does, you're not always gonna be right because it's cutting edge, right? New, and you do it all, like Ben does, you're not always gonna be right

because it's cutting edge, right? New, new, new, new, new stuff. By the way, if you go back 15 years, sleep was biohacking. By the microbiome was biohacking. I'll challenge that, because I've seen a lot of really old ideas that went through the fitness industry now,

make it into that space, as you call it, because it's all geared towards these executives and these people within the corporate world. So you get the vibration plates. You get a lot of the resurgence of some of the gimmicky stuff that you've seen before through our industry. That is true. And you see that too with the cutting edge of fitness, cutting edge supplements, cutting

edge nutrition, stuff will come out. And what that means is you're, even if you're really smart, even if you break everything down, even if you have a lot of integrity, you're, whether or not you're gonna be right or wrong, you're gonna have a higher percentage of wrong

because it's totally cutting edge. It's totally new. So, you know, even the best are not always gonna be on point, but Ben really breaks things. You know he's doing a masterclass for people? Oh really? Yeah, for in person or virtual? No, these are virtual classes and he's going to do like modules essentially.

So like hormones, I haven't written down because I was going to look into it. Hormone, sleep, gut health, recovery, fat loss, immune system, personalized nutrition, and he's teaching this. So he's basically taking and doing like this really, really high level course. So it's not like, yeah, so you'll go through it and you should come out and knowing Ben, he's not gonna be too very near. It'll be very thorough.

It's gonna be extremely thorough on everything that's that you learn. That's very cool. Hey, did you watch the documentary No Safe Spaces? Oh, I loved it, bro. Did you guys watch it yet? Not yet. Just then.

Yeah. I was busy watching what I was gonna talk about, but go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no. Did I fuck your transition? No, no, no, no, no, no. And if you had a better transition right there, I mean, no, no, no, no, no'm saying. No, it's Adam Krola. It's his documentary and he talks about the, essentially it's the, it's how free speech is being treated.

It's really strange. I did not know the Bret Weinstein story and the whole Washington evergreen college. I did not know that story. Yeah. I had no idea about that and watching it on that documentary. And now I'm like so intrigued. I had Katrina reach out to Brett Weinstein, hopefully,

to get an interview with him. I know we just talked recently that he was on Tom Billie's show and Tom did a great job. But man, and now I'm like, oh my God, I want to hear, I want to hear him talk about that. I mean, the dude was scared for his life. They literally were threatening him. He didn't know what to do.

He ends up leaving, ends up suing the college. I mean, there's such a huge story there. So do you guys know the whole, Justin and Doug, do you guys know the whole story behind that? Well, basically, so this is where they didn't want white people to go to campus. Yeah, so there's this tradition. They have this tradition called the Day of Absence,

I think it is, and it's based off of this play, and it maybe Doug can look it up, Day of Absence, I think that's what it's called. Anyway, there's this play. Nevergreen call. I've never seen this play before, but apparently in the play, minorities in the play decide not to show up to work and not contribute to society to show everybody how important they are. So it's a really interesting play.

Sounds like a great play. I've never watched it before. And it's a really cool thing to college has been doing. Yeah. So for what they've done for years is minority students, once a year, voluntarily say, we're not going to come to class. We're not going to come to school. And the school is honored it. And it's part of this whole thing.

But then they flipped a script one year and they said, if you're a white faculty or white students, don't come to school, which is very different. It's not like choosing to, you know, it is they have that absence, awesome. Who's the guy that put that together, Doug? What's his name there? Okay, somebody wants to look it up.

Yeah, Douglas Turner Award. Okay. Can you read us the, can you, it says the story, can you give us a little synopsis for the, so I don't know. Sure, yeah, it says, it's a satire about imaginary southern town where all the black people have suddenly disappeared oh I see okay interesting so anyway so they flipped it and instead of saying we are voluntarily not showing up to school they said white people and faculty don't come to school

and he's like that's very different that's very different. That's very different. Now, and what caused that? Because it just happened like a year ago, right? No, the thing was 2017. Was it a few years ago? And it was part of the whole BLM movement. Is that what kicked it going? Or what caused it to do?

I don't remember what it said. There's just been, for the last 10 years, there's been an interesting shift, especially in colleges, and this was kind of part of that trend, I think. So he's a white and teach, by the way, ultra liberal is political policy, like preferences and whatever, very, very liberal. So it's not even a concern.

And he's like, this is not the same. You're forcing people to not come to school. That's totally different. That's racist in itself. Yeah, and he goes, I'm coming to school. And anyway, it caused big problems right at the school protest and he was fear in for his life. So that was the story behind that.

But this documentary, it's very interesting. It's so opposite. Colleges used to be like Berkeley, for example. That was like the seat of the free speech movement in the 60s. That's students would be like, we should be able to say whatever we want and not have government tell us what we can and can't say, not have the colleges tell us what we can and can't say.

And it flipped, it's totally flipped now to where they're silencing speech. This is a bit of a scary precedent. It's actually unique in American history because of all the countries in the world, all the free countries in the world, America values free speech greater than anyone. Actually, we don't, in fact, you can't go to jail for speech here

unless you're inciting violence, whereas in other free countries, you can go to jail for saying certain things or whatever. So our speech is very, very protected here, but this is the first time it's been challenged. That's what the whole documentary is. Well, yeah. And then the documentary, they say something that you say a lot. I've at least heard you say it at 20 times.

I'm pretty sure you've said it on this podcast. Definitely not off air. We've talked about this. And that's, you know, that is, that was put in place to protect hate speech. Well, that just, it's to protect unpopular speech. You don't need a law for popular speech. If everybody likes it and it's pro it, you don't need to put anything in place to protect it.

Well, here's what's important about that. Because there's definitely things that people can say that I think we can all agree is terrible. You can make racist comments. You could say terrible things about children or, and I would hate that someone said that right So I get that we can all agree upon that But freedom of speech is explicitly there to protect unpopular speech because at one point saying slavery was wrong was

Unpopular speech, right, you know at one point saying women should vote is unpopular speech in many countries Criticizing the government, even in some free countries. This is a big one. It's considered unpopular speech. That's still today in a lot of places. It is. It's how you're gonna stand up and fight against tyranny

if you can't talk about it. That's right. And also blocking speech doesn't block people's ideas and thoughts, and I would rather be out in the open. And then let's debate, let's air it out and let the best ideas, you know, come forward. Pete the idea is and obviously the best one's gonna win. Yeah, so it's it was a very good documentary. Adam Crowley is such a I don't know. He had the most downloaded podcast ever. Yeah, yeah, I knew he's been in the game

like one of the he's one of the first. Yeah, I know I know Joe Rogan's on pace to beat that now, but he like he did Joe Rogan is getting more listens now now, but total downloads because Adam was in the game, like I think several years before Joe even got into the game. Wow. Hey, did you, I was playing Monopoly with my kids the other day and, you know, that's not a bad game. I love that game. I love that game. I love that game. I mean, it always turns into like a fight at the end But at least it's like it's good. It gets them aware of like, you know, how to really manage their money and how to like invest Appropriately. Yeah, because the strategy with the winning strategy with monopoly because my it's me or my son always win It's because we always play the same strategy try to spend as much as you can

Getting properties even if that means you're down to your last whatever, because eventually it comes around and then you make passive income and you win the game, which is very much how the strategy is a successful strategy is in life, you know, or you have your money and then make your money, make money for you so that you could do other stuff while it's making money. Now do you find yourself teaching your son that as you're playing? Totally. Okay. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Actually, does that interest him? Is he interested in that? He is. He asked me questions about interest rates, loans, and so I try to break that

down for him. I say, look, when you're young and you have not a lot of responsibilities, I said, try to live below your means, take your money and your goal is to take your money, first save it, try to save your first, 100,000 or whatever, or 50,000. Try to make that which is hard, by the way, it takes a long time. But then try to take that money

and then try to find ways for it, seed it, to make money for you. Because if you try to become wealthy just by earning money through work, it's gonna be really hard. There's only so many hours you can work and not very many people can get a job or build a business that ends up making them super wealthy. But most people, I remember those one client I had

who he started off as a grocer as a kid in San Jose and eventually was just a grocery store manager. But because he always bought properties, and obviously in the Bay Area, the guy was like, by the time he hired me, he was in his six years. I love stories like that. Multi-multi-millionaire. Yeah, I love that.

Dude, I finally got into that haunting of blind manner. I think you brought it up. Good right? Right, dude. So it's a pretty funny thing. Last night we were watching it. We were watching the first episode. And it was starting to kind of get intense.

And you know, you're seeing little flashes of like you know ghosts and stuff and we were getting like oh and the music started kind of picking up and it was a hot night and so I had one of the doors open with the screen door open and we started hearing stuff outside you know and I've been telling you guys we've been having like critters and all this stuff like you know more visible these days. So we're there with the dogs, the kids are asleep, and you know, it starts to get really intense to where we're like, okay, there's gonna be something

that's gonna jump out on the screen. You know how they kind of set you up for that? And all of a sudden we look over, we hear rustling outside of it. Wait, is that outside or on the screen? And it's outside, we look at the screen door and there's a face of the raccoon looking right at us just. No, scared the fucking shit out of me. Jumped out of the, jumped

off of my couch and the dog's got, opened it up and of course like Arlo chased them all around, you know, and chased them up a tree. But it was just like such perfect timing, you know, like we were like, oh man, this was like plants. That's my biggest fear as you pull back the drapes at night or open the blinds and there's a face. Yeah, like that was just like staring at it. I was just like, I think I'd start crying. Yeah, see that does not interest me at all. Well, no, the record happened in half.

It was kind of fun though. You're not gonna get a record in here. It doesn't matter, dude. It's not so much. It's well written, tell them it's well written. It's really well written. Yeah, so it's a good story. And I know you're into storylines and all that.

But dude, I think he was attracted because I've been barbecuing a lot lately, too. So they smell that and they go around it and look for scraps and all that. And they're always trying to eat the dog's food. But yeah, I've been growing a ton lately, dude Like we had some awesome steak tips with I haven't tried the steak tips. So these are the butcher by favorite I have I don't know what you guys are your favorites. Yeah, the cuts of meat. That's my favorite so far

Whoa, I didn't really do that. I don't know if it's all the time Is it one of those like add-ons? It might be an add-on yeah Well, you had one the other day that was an add so I'm what I'm really bad is I've kind of set like what I know I use go on there and check for the ad. Yeah, I got brisket. I don't like three biscuits. I don't check enough to see all these. So they constantly are doing like changes of ad on they had lobster tails a little while ago. I know right. Well you brought you brought that one that you just heated up in the microwave. What was that like a brisket or what was it? Yes, and it was already shredded and it was like a single meal. I didn't even know they'd do it.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, you're talking about the pulled pork. Yes. No, they had pulled pork, it was already cooked, but you know, typical butcher box, right? Healthy, like good ingredients or whatever. Then I had what's it called brisket. So they don't always have it, but if they do, I get it, and then we do it in the pressure cooker.

Well, I just love the maple fall, because you get the squash, you get a lot of those types of vegetables and peppers and things, and so we made this medley with potatoes and everything. Well, it was so good. Yeah, I like the winter, because then I just eat more. Oh, yeah, that's true. But I'm just all in.

Just wear my sweater. Yeah, it's so heavy. Yeah, I'm that's true. That was all in. Just wear my sweater. So heavy. Yeah, I'm still doing it. I'm still doing it. I think sales sent over this article, and we have to talk about this, because this is, this blows my mind that this stat is real. And I fact check, I didn't for what I see, it seems to be real. 22% of the money that is in circulation right now

in the United States was printed in 2020. Yeah. 22% almost a quarter of all dollars was printed this year. That not printed created. Same difference. Yeah, same difference. Yeah, but it created another one because it's digital, right?

Some of us didn't. Meanwhile, we have this crazy coin shortage, you know, dude, this is getting me worried. It's, it's, so right? So, we're having this crazy coin shortage, you know, dude, this is getting me worried. It's, so it makes me worried about that is the amount of inflation that has to happen from that. Alrighty, we're already seeing it. You're already seeing it in investments.

You're seeing it in stocks. So, you're seeing it in houses. And pretty soon you're starting it with consumer products. So essentially what this means is that they've done these stimulus packages, right? This one trillion dollar one, this another one that's trillion dollars.

What that means is that they tell the Fed, Federal Reserve, we need more cash to flood the market and we're gonna use it for these different things, but because it's not money or wealth that's backed, it's not created by increased inefficiency, it's not like a new product came out or a new service or something that increased efficiency. It's just money. It's just monopoly money.

It what happens is all the rest of the money that's out now loses value. So if there's only $100 available on Earth and there's a product that is worth $20 and then you double the amount of dollars that are available, but they're not connected to any productivity or efficiency. Now that product is automatically worth $40. So just erase the price. Well, it's like anything. I mean, compared to a Ferrari, you know, Ferrari only makes so many for our days every

year. And then part of what keeps the value of them is that there's only a hundred of those. If all of a sudden, if we made 100,000 of those models, it would go down because so many more people could afford to buy it. Turn it up. That's what we're doing with money. We just all of a sudden flood in 22%. That's insane to me.

This is how I teach my kids about the value of money. So I'll do this thought experiment with them and I'll say, what I said, do you think it would be a good thing if we just gave every person in America $10 million? And a little kid's always going to be like, yeah, of course. Yeah, and so then I'll explain, well, okay, here's what ends up happening if you do that. It's that everything's just that much more expensive. So nobody's better off. And then we explain, you know, inflation, how that works. Where somebody taught me that when I was a kid. I had no idea. I had no idea either.

Yeah, but I remember being a kid going like, why don't we just print more money if we have the ability? I mean, you got the machines, right? Why don't we just print it and just give us tribute to everybody? So everybody's okay, you just, that's why that, I can't even think of the name of the book, the Peter Schiff's book, which turned us on to interviewing him.

That book was such a great book. I mean, I can't wait to read that book to Max because they did it in such a simple way that a kid could understand by telling the story from the very beginning being on the island. There's two people. They're fishing. So that's the commodity. That's it. I'm saying fish to survive. And then somebody figures out how to make a net and now there's 10 fish. And then what and like the evolution of an economy, what it looked like. We're just so far beyond that that people can't comprehend.

We're removed from it, right? Yeah, yeah, so we're so, there it is, how an economy grows and why it crashes. Yeah, no, money has to represent good services, efficiency, otherwise it's worthless. It's not worth anything. You guys ready for some weird, crazy, and I don't know, maybe scary news.

So this is in the UK right now. Okay, so they have, I think they've designated certain parts of the UK, like more safe, less safe, depending based upon COVID infections. So here's what they release, it's just happened. Couples living apart in areas with tier two restrictions. So apparently these are places with more restrictions because COVID cases are climbing, okay?

So couples living apart in these areas that are tier two restricted are not allowed to have sleepovers unless they are in a support bubble. In other words, you are not allowed to have your girlfriend over and hook up with them or whatever if you guys are in this tier two zone. You can meet them in public, but you can't kiss them in public. How are they regulating this? That's exactly. And this is a law, they're saying that they'll punish people.

Oh, no law, too. Yeah, they put this in their regulation. So obviously what they do is make examples of a few people, make it look like they're on top of this. Yeah, we're gonna make a real hard stance with this. We might not be at a door. Yeah, right. Yeah, we're gonna make a real hard stance with this We might not be door dude. You cannot manage that. That's a that's a like a nightmare to manage one of the one of the worst things You can do is pass a lot that you can never mind never mind exactly well We do it all the time. Don't you remember the either use fear? Don't you remember the FBI warning on video cassettes?

It's a great. It's a perfect example Get the fuck out of here. I'm recording. I'm recording this shit I'm saving it for later. You know what I'm saying? I'm the FBI. I know you do that VCR When does that ever happen never never happen? Oh, no Yeah, when you are renting it for 399 and I'm recording it on my other cassette So I go watch it fucking 40 times. I can't irrigate you Remember when you were a kid, though? Over Roger Rabbit. But before you figured that out,

like at first where you kinda like, oh my god, is this? Yeah, no, I remember thinking that going like, oh the big F, you know, the big old, the big size of the blue screen and the FBI warning, you're like, oh shit, is a kid, you're like, wait a second, dad, we have this dual cassette thing.

Isn't that what that's for? It's for us to record that shit? Like, yeah, are we breaking the law? Yeah, that's how you learn how to break the law. That's why I'm saying you shouldn't pass laws. You can't enforce. It's then people just start breaking the law. And then the next law is easy to break. Yeah, you know what I mean?

That's silly. Red and interesting study on the hormone, Grelin. So I know you've talked about Grelin in the past, the law, Adam. So it's a hormone that helps signal response. The yeah, it helps signal that you're full, right? If Grelin goes up, it means you eat less or whatever. So they did these animal studies

where they blocked the receptors to Grelin to see what would happen to the animals. A couple of interesting things happen. The animals ate more frequently, that's expected because Grelin helps tell you that you're full. So now that they don't have the receptors for Grelan, they're more likely to eat more often. But here's something else that was interesting. Their memories were severely impaired. So they weren't able to remember things as much because Grelan was blocked. And yeah, and also, and I remember reading studies of drugs that never made it past the

full FDA testing, where they're trying to see if they could, you know, because they're always looking for the weight loss pill. Yeah, but they did find that there were some cognitive impairment issues, and it kind of makes sense to me because if you're an animal and you find food in nature and you eat until the grueling goes up and you feel full, it probably encourages you to remember where the food was. But if grueling never goes up, you never get that improved memory to remember where food is

because animals are really good at that. They're really good at remembering where. Oh, no, that would have happened. I look at the bear or trucky-ass. Yeah, no, that's exactly right. I remember, I remember I told you guys, that was like the thing I was most worried about after I saw that he broke in the house was,

he got enough food that he'd left a ton of food. Which means he got- He remembers. Yes, he ate until he was full and then left. You better believe when that kicks up again and he gets hungry, he will follow that trail right back to that same place because he had so much success there.

Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, so it just points out that we're so complex that just finding something and be like, this is the key. Yeah, they targeted it. There's gonna be some downstream events you need to, or consequences you need to be careful with. And I don't think we're gonna,

anytime soon stumble upon the perfect weight loss pill. I think it's way too complex, though. I'm sure at some point we'll figure it out. Do you think so? Do you think we're ever going to figure it out? Which by the way, even if we did, it still wouldn't give you all the benefits. You gotta remember that one that was like the,

you put it on your head and then it shocked your brain. Your biggest nerve. Yeah. Yes, it affected the biggest nerve and it'll cause you a new mess. I was, and make you dizzy. I'm wondering where that's at now. Because I, I was super worried about. I was super worried about. I'm wondering where that's at now. Because I, I was super worried about.

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If someone just hands you a million dollars versus the guy who had to or girl that had to work their ass off and have- You can't remove the work. No. Because that is what allows you to sustain that. So the journey is everything. And I can say this confidently as somebody who's been training and working out forever. If I were to list the most important benefits

of exercise and nutrition for myself, like the ones that have the most important in my life, the building muscle, being lean, looking good, wouldn't make the top probably five. It would be up there somewhere, but it wouldn't be in the top five. The benefits, the real benefits I got was learning discipline, learning how to regulate myself, learning how to have a good relationship

with food, and then all those skills bleed into the rest of my life. This is why people who exercise regularly and prioritize the nutrition for long periods of time are more successful, typically with their families, they're more successful with business because these are skills that you end up learning. It's that analogy I give all the time where I say, you know, the man who, you could, you could take a helicopter and drop someone off on the top of Mount Everest and not have a beautiful view,

but it's not nearly the same as clouding. That is rewarding. Now, you climb Mount Everest, it's a completely different experience. Right. You learn way more and you grow way more, you know, as a person. Speaking of learning, remember that study I brought up on Venus, how they said they found

something that told them that they were, there may be life on Venus. Now they found that glycine is in the atmosphere. So in amino acid, that is a building block for life. So more evidence that there may be life potentially. So I'm getting it. It's gonna be crazy once we actually get the Mars like and get samples and all that. I wonder if there's you know similar type of organisms there too. I think it'd be so cool. Yeah. So crazy. My my conspiracy theory is that human geek out on that too. Oh by the way that was hilarious. Which one? Whoever I should give a shout out to the kid

who posted that on the, somebody on our Facebook forum was saying that this forum's gotten boring for a while. I want to spice it up into like, start listing all your conspiracy theories. Oh my God. And I cut Justin went off. Real quick.

Oh yeah, I had to give like the most ridiculous ones I could think of it. It's like, you know, you know, you got to warm me ahead of time. What's in here? So I can like, you know, you got to warm me ahead of time. What's in here? So I can like, I know whether to waste my time. I mean, you're gonna waste your time with all of these. Yeah, I know.

Okay, so what do you want from me? These are ridiculous ideas that I have, I find entertainment value in it. I don't like, I'm not like subscribed to the ideas. Right. Justin did the interdependent assessment. That's so good. That's a real, is there a real good? Yeah, bro. Yeah, that shot your

reason why the whole earth theory and all that the reason why he's never been found is because he's interdimensional. Bro, do you subscribe to a magazine that you get sent to your house? No, I full these things. I mean, I watch all those shows, dude. Like I watch all the ancient aliens and all the, you know, you have phoology stuff and, you know, I'm really into like

ancient cultures and so it all, it's funny because they try and interweave all this stuff and connect dots, you know, and it's always aliens, like, there's this huge button, it's like, aliens. We don't know the answer. It's aliens must have been aliens. It's hilarious. Oh, I want to bring this up before we transition to the question. So in the past, I haven't talked about this in a while, but in the past, I've talked a lot about glyphosates. So glyphosates for the listeners who don't know

are chemicals that we invented that are herbicide. So you spray them on plants and it kills the plant, okay? And so this is why GMO plants are taken over the market, because what a GMO plant is, like GMO corn, is it's modified corn so that it doesn't die when you spray it with glyphosate, but then all the other plants around it do die. So if you wanna have a bunch of crops of corn

and you wanna get rid of the weeds, you blast the whole crop with glyphosates, the corn survives, and the weeds die. But the problems with glyphosates are glyphosates also interact with this pathway called the Shikamate pathway, which is what you find in plants, but you also find them in bacteria. So one of the problems with these glyphosates is you are blasting a mild antibiotic into the ground, killing the biodiversity of bacteria in the ground, not a good thing, not a good thing at all.

I mean, there's, you're talking about billions and billions of pounds of glyphosates being sprayed every single year. And it affects bacteria, which also live inside of us. That's right, which is what we're mostly made of. Right, so then you eat GMO plants, the GMO plant themselves probably not gonna cause a problem, but the fact that they have gly So then you eat GMO plants, the GMO plant themselves probably not gonna cause a problem, but the fact that they have glyphosate residue all over them,

over time, theoretically could really disrupt your gut microbiota, it can cause the spaces in your gut cells to space out, causing leaky gut syndrome. So it can cause a lot of problems in some scientists think this may be one of the main reasons why we're seeing so many food allergies and food intolerances just explode. It's because of our exposure to glyphosate. So that takes me to our partner, Organify. So Organify is partnering with a company called the Detox Project. So this is a third party laboratory that tests products. I don't

know this specifically for glyphosate residue. Oh, rad. Yes. So, that's so great. Which by the way, this is hard to do, even with organic food, because they're still, there's still remains of it and it's out in the air and it goes up and, and then the rain brings it back to the ground. Right.

I remember, I remember Dr. Bush when he interviewed, when you interviewed him and you guys talked about this, like it's almost impossible to get rid of it completely. So having some sort of test to measure like the best areas or best crops. And there is no regulation on how much glyphosate residues something can be on or whatever. But anyway, so, organify product, and this is one reason why we work with them, right?

They're so concerned with quality, they're gonna get third party tested and they got the stamp of approval from the detox product. So in other words, their products got very, very hard, like scrutinized, they got scrutinized big time for do you just have any glyphosate residue what's the deal and great. Everything's there.

And we saw their action with the heavy metals and when I came out with the study of all those other companies and now they're doing this, I mean, there's not a lot of companies that are putting their product to that kind of testing. Yep. So their products, they can confidently say, are glyphosate residue free, confirmed by a third party.

So not them saying it, it's a third party that's testing them. Shout out to Organa Fossil. Hey, real quick, this is Sal, one of the hosts of Mind Pump right now, to the end of this month, October 31st, all programs, all maps, workout programs, 50% off, and all bundles, 50% off. This is the biggest sale we've done all year. Just go to mapsfitinistproducts.com and use the code October 50.

That's the word October and the number 50 No Space. Full 30-day money back guarantee there is absolutely zero risk. So what is your waiting for? Go to mindpromedia.com and get started today! It's the motherfucking vlog! An English Landage! Quee-qua- First question is from I Love Dallas. Why should I do compound lifts when I can build a good looking body with isolation movements? Well, that's Debbie. Yeah. Well, first of all, those throwbacks.

Only if you're like in the 80s earlier, you'll get that one. You need a VCR to pull it off. So first of all, that's the question. Assume something that's false. So can you develop a good looking body with isolation movements, better than doing nothing, but you definitely won't develop the full potential of your body without doing compound lifts. Compound lifts are just far more effective

at developing the body, building muscle, building more functional strength, they burn more calories, they'll speed up the metabolism better. They're just far more effective. So whatever body you can develop with isolation movements only, number one, you would have got their way faster

had you incorporated compound. And that number two, you're not reaching your full potential. Yeah, I would say you can dig a pool with the shovel or a tractor. It's up to you. I'm saying if you really want to use a shovel to do it, you absolutely could. And I guess if that's the approach you. I'm saying, if you really want to use a shovel to do it, you absolutely could. I guess if that's the approach you'd rather have, but that's how big of a difference

lifting those compound lifts will accelerate your results. Fat loss, building muscle, strength. That being said, you could. I actually know a lot of guys that, I competed with a lot of people that did not train compound lifts. And they built some of the most competitive places. They did no compound lifts? Very little. Well, I mean, bench press everybody bench presses, right?

But I mean, they're not squatting, they're not deadlifting, they're not overhead pressing. So those three, which I think are three very important movements that you should be doing. Most people bench press, but I mean, the overhead press, the deadlift and the squat are, we're not in a lot of body, they weren't in my routine for a very long time.

I was this guy. Yeah, but you still did rows. You still do. Right, yeah, I did some other. I'm not surprised. But when I think of someone saying this, I think of them, they're not doing the big ones, right? Like, they're not doing the big compound lifts

that are, because they're hard. They're hard to get good at. And so people avoid them. But that's what you gotta understand is that what makes them so good and so valuable is the fact that they're hard. Is the fact that it has a long period before you get really good at mastered.

If you do things and the body gets good at it and masters it really quick, the results slow down. You gotta understand that. So, how hard is it to teach somebody how to do a tricep push down or a bicep curl? It's not very hard. And because it's not very hard and it's easy to learn how to do that,

the results are quick. You get some little bit of results as soon as you start doing it, but then it falls off really fast because it's that easy to do it. It's the things that are very challenging for you to learn how to do that provide all these results because it's a long time for the body to adapt and get good at it. This question just makes me cringe.

Yeah, I like it. Like right away. Mainly because just the overall function of your body. I mean, nobody, if this is your mentality, if you just wanna pump an air up your muscles and look decent in terms of like a balanced symmetrical physique, and that's your only goal in life, you still have to recognize the fact of how your body is gonna move and function and be able to operate long-term.

And there's gonna be problems that occur from that when you segment your body into just single joint movements all the time. You're not gonna have that communication for your overall body, like you would do in these compound lifts, where we have to organize more muscle groups involved to really pull off normal things in life.

Like heavy objects, you gotta move and do things and rotation and you're gonna leave yourself susceptible normal things in life, like heavy objects, you gotta move and do things in rotation and you're gonna leave yourself susceptible to more instances where an injury might occur. I wish I understood this when I was younger because I can understand where this person's coming from. I was definitely this, I mean, even as a trainer, even having the knowledge of knowing that,

oh, compound lives are supposed to be better for me. I didn't care, because I could build a physique. But now where I'm at in my life, boy do I wish I would have pieced that together a lot earlier. I think I'd be further along. I would have had to put in half the work that I put in to get to where I'm at physique wise. And I love that.

I understand this now. Today as a father and being so busy with business and everything else, I don't have the same commitment to the gym as I did just five years ago competing when I'm in there, seven days a week training hard for an hour and a half every single day, it just doesn't look like that anymore. Sometimes I get 30 minutes and sometimes that's only two or three times a week.

And if I was doing isolation exercises, I would see like nothing. I like every little, if you're only training a half hour an hour, you know, and maybe on a good week, two or three hours in a week of training, and you're doing bicep curls, tricep push downs, and lateral raises, and peck deck, you ain't seen shit as far as I was talking about. But I'd tell you what, in that little bit of time,

if all I'm doing is overhead pressing, squatting, deadlifting, rowing, bench pressing, just those five major movements. If I'm doing just those things in that time, which you could accomplish that in that little bit of time, I'm like maintaining a decent physique. This reminds me of those kick cars that you could buy, where you put that car together.

It looks like a Ferrari, but it's got like a four cylinder Honda engine. It's all patched together. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me because I want to look good, but I also want to be able to move and be strong. And isolation movements just get crushed when it comes to performance. But again, the results you're going to get are just, you're going to get there faster and you're going to get further

with the most effective exercises. Then you would if you did the exercises that are not as effective. And also, it's really hard to make up for them. In other words, I can't think of six or maybe even eight isolation movements all done together with lots of sets and volume that would be equivalent to five sets of squats. You know, you could take a bunch of isolation exercises and put them together and say, I'm not squatting, but I'm doing all these isolation,

I got one for quads, I got one from inner thighs, outer thighs, glutes, and hamstrings and calves, put them all together, still not gonna equal one exercise. That's how effective they are. So, like Adam said, you can do things the hard way or you can do things the easier way. It makes no sense to me why somebody would want to go the long route and do it in a way that would result

in less strength and mobility. Next question is from Mel Bell, McB32. Wow, he's names today. Creative. What causes the small muscles in your upper back and rotator cuff not to strengthen, resulting in shoulder pain? Okay, so shoulder pain can be quite common

in people who get really strong with bench presses and overhead rows. And it's not necessarily because they got strong at the presses, it's because the supporting stabilizing muscles couldn't keep up with these big prime moving muscles, right? So, you have muscles that stabilize your upper arm, your humerus bone, and they prevent it from twisting, right?

So, they keep it strong and stable. And then you have these big prime movers, your packs, your delts, your triceps, and those you're working directly by bench pressing and overhead pressing. And these stabilizer muscles, they are strengthening a bit, but over time, these prime movers start to get so strong that these stabilizer muscles just can't keep up. You know, it's like putting a really, really powerful... Wait, how much torque?

It is, it's like having a car with a... That's the way it is, it's like having a car, look at that. That's the bait, it's like having a car with a normal frame that normally has 150 horsepower, and then you put a thousand horsepower engine in it. The frame is gonna twist. Yeah, exactly. If you don't stabilize the frame and strengthen the stability in the car,

it's literally gonna twist the frame as soon as you hit the car. To me, that's the best analogy for this question. It's exactly what Justin just said. It's like, it is literally that. And you can't't, and you can't do that, by the way. If you don't know anything about cars, I had no very little about cars. I know enough to know that.

Like, I can't take my Camaro, and I can't turn it into a thousand horsepower engine just by itself. Like, I could do that. You need to reinforce it though. But it would literally like, it would rip apart. It would be so much horsepower that I wouldn't be reinforcing all the little things.

You know, the suspension on it has to be able to do that. You have to be on the sway bars. You'd have to have all these things, the tires, the rear end, like all these other things have to be strong enough to support that much torque. And that's exactly what's going on here is you've built so much big muscle, right? So much horsepower that you're not focusing on all the other things that support it. If the build up the supporting cast,

and that's, you know, it's just as essential, like, so maintaining the actual function of your shoulder is crucial. And the thing about the shoulder is it's ability to go through so many different ranges of motion, it almost seems endless. And so for people to just focus on what you're saying is mainly that sagittal plane and that overhand grip,

and everything is really building and developing this insane amount of strength in that direction. It's leaving all the rest really susceptible to not being able to control where your bone is in the joint and everything else. Then boom, you're open for something to snap. Yeah, and here's something else that happens as a result of it. At some point, your body refuses to get stronger because you get to a breaking point.

I've actually... Well, injury happens a lot. Well, not injury happens a lot. Or you're just like, oh man, I got my bench press up to this weight. Well, you've shared this your story of the Rotary or Coastory. That's right, I remember years ago, as a kid, when I was a kid, the exercise all guys compared was bench press. That was like the test of strength, right?

So if you met another dude that lifted weights, how was you bench? You didn't ask him how much they squat or deadlift or what, it was always how much can you bench. So it was like this real important exercise, right? So I, it was like one of my focuses was I got to get a really good bench press, right? Ego lifting. I was one of those guys.

And I remember, I don't remember what the weight was. I got stuck out, but I got stuck at a particular weight. And I couldn't go up and I couldn't go up for the longest time. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't improve. And I was reading a, I don't remember what magazine it was, it must have been Muscle and Fitness or something. And in the back, in the very back, they always had these little ads for supplements

or a new exercise machine or whatever. And I always loved reading the little ads because I always thought I'd discover some kind of secret back there, like, oh, this is where I'm gonna learn like something new, right? And I remember seeing this picture, I think it was called a shoulder horn, and it was this plastic device

that went over someone's neck, and then they put their arms over it, and they would do what I know now to be external shoulder rotation. It was like a big ass die master for your shoulder. Kind of, right? And so you put it over your shoulders, and you do this thing,

and I thought, oh, this is weird, this is so silly. Anyway, I talked it there it is. It's a shoulder horn rotator cuff, is the name of it. I think that's the exact picture. Is it really? Look at the guys' mullet, obviously, it's in the early 90s. Yeah, look at that.

So I remember talking to, I think it was a friend of mine or a trainer and they said, oh yeah, if you strengthen these muscles, your bench press will go up. So I didn't buy the shoulder horn. I just mimicked the exercise at the gym. I went to the gym, put my arm up on a bench, grabbed a dumbbell, and I remember feeling so unstable.

I had like a five pound dumbbell and I rotated in, and I remember thinking, my shoulder, this is not feel good. I thought this is interesting. So I did that, and within a week, my bench press went up 10 pounds. Like within a week, because I strengthened these muscles that pounds. Like within a week because I strengthened these muscles that needed to get stronger and they were holding me back.

And that's when I learned that these are important areas to strengthen. And even if you just want to get stronger in the gym, you've got to work on mobility and stability because those will get in your way. They'll prevent you from progressing. Well, an easy way to do that is this is why I love like the stuff that Justin likes to talk about.

What's neat about unconventional training is it challenges a lot of those types of muscles. And that's what makes it so beneficial. And that's why it should be in everybody's routine. So you don't have to go get a shoulder horn and do some direct exercise just for your rotator cuff. You can do a kettlebell swing, or you can do a Maybell swing or you can do a

macebell swing that incorporates that. So you get this exercise that's going to strengthen it and has other benefits too. That's what's neat about incorporating unconventional training as a, you know, as a byproduct, you do that also. That's why I think it really should get beyond unconventional. I mean, if you're really serious about maintaining this crazy amount of strength in your shoulder and you're really trying to get beyond your plateau

and press it a bit further, you should be thinking about loaded rotational moves. If you're not, then you're not building up your supporting cast properly. And I actually respect people out there, like a Chris Duffin, who he came up with like the shoulder rock. And so it's very similar to a macebell. of the only guys it's like a freaking nature you know lifting like ungodly amounts of weight but it's considering that as a component in his training to support

this this gargantuan amount of weight. Yeah if you're if you're a muscular strong person at the gym and you find that when you go through the baseball around with your kid or frisbee at the beach and you find that your shoulder sore the next next thing, even though you're really strong and fit, it's because you need to strengthen and work on this supporting cast of muscles. You can also, if you want to learn some of the stuff, we did, Adam taught a class. You go to primeprowebinar.com and there is a specific shoulder mobility movement in there that is way better than like shoulder-horn or isolated shoulder external rotation exercises.

The handcuff with a rotation. The handcuffer. Do something like that and do it right and you'll get a lot out of that in terms of shoulder stability. And it is a free class. So you just go on there and watch it. Next question is from Connor Nagel 07.

How do many boltsbulks and cuts compare to traditional three-month intervals of bulking and leaning out? Well, you know it's funny about this. We talked about mini-cuts and mini-bulks. First year, we started the podcast where we recommended rather than people going on these long extended periods of time of dieting or bulking,

just through our own experience, we saw better results when they were shorter periods and they were interrupted by kind of doing the opposite or by increasing calories enough to maintain. And in my experience, the shorter cuts result to more fat loss, less muscle loss, and the shorter bulks result in more muscle gain and less fat gain,

well, we now have studies that prove it. Okay, they have studies now that actually compare periods of time of dieting. One group has interruptions where they'll eat maintenance calories for a few days or a week in between versus the other group, and sure enough, they burn more body fat and preserve more muscle when they do it.

So that's the big difference. And I wanna add something to that. I would still recommend this, even if the studies came out and didn't prove that. For the psychological reason? Absolutely. And that's the thing that we always got to look at too. And I really think that that's the reason why I think we all came to that same conclusion over the years of training people is we for sure, we felt confident, even without having

a study to prove that this is the superior way to do it. And I think it's because, one, yes, the studies prove that it does, it does make a difference and it's better. But then also the psychological piece, which studies don't ever really talk about, or very rarely do you talk about that in, you know, building muscle and fat burning studies,

they don't bring up like, oh, psychologically, this is more, people are gonna be more consistent with this. But I think about that as a coach and as a trainer because I have to get these people to follow these diets. Having somebody follow a diet for a couple weeks and then switching it up and going the other direction is so much easier than telling somebody for the next three months we are gonna eat in this surplus

or eat in this deficit every single day for this long of a period of time. That's super hard to get them to be consistent with that, where if I say listen to a client, I what I need from you is just that the next two weeks, we're gonna eat just like this, and then I'm gonna change something up. It's so much, it would be so much easier for my clients

to stay focused for those two weeks, because they knew that I was gonna interrupt it soon, and even if they would go through a day, we're like, oh, hunger pains, this is really hard. They're like, I can do this, it's only seven more days, or it's only three more days, and then Adam's gonna give me more calories. Yeah, we guys always talk about the increase of mass

that you actually gain when you're above a certain amount that you're trying to bulk anyway. And so it really doesn't look that advantageous to go, exceed that sort of 500 calorie amount anyway, because for the most part, it looks like you're gaining a lot of fat with muscle, even if you're on pace. So just to keep it within those parameters and stretch it out a bit further

seems like you're going to get closer to your goal and not just build mass you don't want. Yeah, and it results in less likelihood of, like, especially with fits of cut, it's less, you're less likely to binge, you're going the opposite direction in a big way. Right. When you go on a three month strict calorie cut, you're less likely to binge, you're going the opposite direction in a big way. Right. You go on a three month strict calorie deficit, the odds that at the end of that, you're gonna go off the rails

is much higher than if it's a three week cut. Now here's how it looks, okay. Here's how it would look. If your overall goal is fat loss, and let's say you wanna lose 20 pounds, and it takes you, I don't know, five months, let's just say, what the short cuts mean is that you'll do a deficit for a few pounds, and it takes you, I don't know, five months, let's just say, what the shortcuts mean is that you'll do a deficit for a few weeks,

and then you'll interrupt it with like a week of maintenance or a slight surplus, and then you go back to the cut. So, in the majority of the time, you are to deficit, because you do want to lose a lot of body fat, but you interrupt it at scheduled intervals. So it becomes many cuts.

That's what we mean by that. And then the reverse, if you want to bulk, same thing. You're bulk for three weeks, and then you have a few days to a week where the calories are down a little bit to stimulate your appetite, reduce fat gain. That's what we mean by, it doesn't mean you go three weeks, three weeks at every direction all the time. If your goal is ultimately a lot of fat loss, you got to stay more in the cut.

If your goal is ultimately muscle gain, you stay more in the bulk. But inner, you know, interrupting it at short intervals, you know, three weeks is the number that I typically work with. Anywhere between three to two to four weeks, I would say, that seems to work best in experience. And then again, the study support it. Next question is from jazz fitness.

What do you think about Jim Shark now sponsoring gamers? Oh, the shreds of athletes you're wearing. You know what, from a business standpoint? That's a good point. What a brilliant market. Well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, because the gamer market is massive. And already we're seeing supplement companies start to target

these kids and gamers or whoever, and which makes sense. Obviously, you're going to drink a pre-workout to work out. I can totally transition that into a pre-suffering. Every high caffeinated sugary drink on the planet is trying to get in the space. Now, it makes sense. So if you're a gamer, here's the thing. It's funny, we're even talking about that.

And I know I have a son who's definitely a gamer. You now feel like you belong to this group. So gamers tend to talk the same lingo, just like bodybuilders or power lifters or dancers. You start to speak the same lingo. You start to talk about the same brands in game. It's not that hard to get them all to start to address the same. It's very much a cult.

Yeah, they start to address the same or have the same backpacks. I remember when we had the kettlebell competition here, how everybody had the same brand bags. You guys remember that? I remember thinking like, everybody's got never heard of this brand. So this is more like a tap out of this sport. Dude, so smart. If I owned a clothing company, I would be like, no, I mean, here's a thing, like a wheat ITs that they're, you know, the shreds of athletes, or although I really mean that, I really think that the quality of what they're putting out

is okay at best by the way, but they're smart. They're really whoever is running the marketing is pretty damn brilliant or whoever they've hired to do that is really really smart. They go after niche markets and of course, it makes sense. Okay, if you're a gamer, you gotta wear clothes. You're at home all day long,

so comfy like athletes, you're type of wear. You don't want, you're a gamer, you got to wear clothes. You're at home all day long, so comfy like, athletes, you're type of wearers. You don't want, you're not gonna see J. Kruego after them. That would be stupid. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna suit. Yeah, exactly. You're not gonna wear that, but comfy, athletes, you wear type of apparel is very comfortable.

I mean, that's what we wear all day long, like we wear athletes, you wear it all day. We wear quality though. You know what I'm saying? It's always a big difference there. But I mean, I think it's brilliant by Jim Shark, but I also think that when a company like this is so popular, like Shreds was in Supplements

when we first started the podcast, people just assume because it's big and successful that it's good. We live in a time now where a lot of these companies that are massive right now, were really just, just their great business. They're great, they're smart. They got into a space early and they took advantage of it.

You know, and when I mean by Jim Shark being the shreds of Athletes Aware, shreds dominates supplements on Instagram, not in the world on Instagram, right? They, if you walked into a GNC five years ago and asked what shreds is, the kid would probably go, who the hell is that? Or if you asked EAS, Bill Phillips, do you know who shreds is? He would chuckle and have no idea who that is.

But if you asked somebody who's into fitness that was on Instagram, five years ago, do you know who shreds is, they would say absolutely because they dominated Instagram for supplements. And the way they did that was when everybody was first kind of getting popular on Instagram and it still wasn't a thing yet where a lot of companies were advertising and had to what quote unquote influencers. They got them all they created all these pages that were around fitness right all these great bodies and workout routines. And then they went out and they sponsored all these young kids that were popular and fit and ripped and they got them to push their supplements and they gave them a kickback. And since the margins are so good in it,

they could afford to give them a little bit of money, it's some decent money. So these kids were making good money by pushing these supplements. Jim Shark did the same thing with ATHLEASURE Wear. They were the first ones to get into Instagram, look at all the fitness people and go, oh wait, there's not like a Nike and Reebok,

they're not in here, Nike and Reebok aren't talking to influencers on it, they are now. It was small potatoes for that time, man. And so a small company, or they were a small company, Jim Sharks saw this opportunity to get all of these fitness influencers, get them wearing some gear and promoting their stone and a sea to see Felix Gray in the space. I feel like.

Gamers? Yeah. Oh, it makes perfect sense. You know, like just on the screens all day, like just to actually contribute something, you know, healthy in their direction to be able to, you know, provide some bit of substance there. You know what, I would imagine actually, I would think that there's a blue blocker that has already made their way in the game

I'm sure yeah, I know I feel it's thought of it. Felix Gray is a Our focus on Apple Google You know, yeah, they're working with like yeah, the big dogs and I've been doing that for a while now I don't know if they if they ever plan to go in the gaming direction their brand feels a little more I don't know I don't know, I don't know if luxury. It's, dude, it's such a smart move. You know, when I hear my son talk to his friends,

like there are gamer athlete celebrities, just like when you hear people talk about basketball or football or baseball, they know that this one player and this, oh, did you see so and so, they played whatever, it's becoming that way. I mean, look, I'll tell you what, in five years, gamers are going to have major sponsors. Yeah. Yeah.

But they will. Oh, I just don't know. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, sponsoring a better, but they're not that huge brands now are paying these kids massive amount. Jim Shark needs like advertisements with like Cheeto dust all over their clothes and you know what I mean? That kind of thing to make it work. But I mean, it's again, it's a smart move.

I don't know how, I guess it's just about like association. It's, oh well, it also, okay, we talk a bad about what's the, why can I not think of a beach body? Okay. Yeah. Beachbody does billions of dollars online marketing with programs. And the thing that we talk bad about it is the programs the programs are terrible. They really are. But that doesn't mean I think beach bodies a terrible company. That's a brilliant smart marketing company. They are they're marketing geniuses, and we watch what they're doing all the time to see are there things that we can emulate,

but while also maintaining integrity, and being authenticated to who we are. So, I mean, they're brilliant at that. So sometimes these examples of these companies, people assume just because they're massive, and they're good. That doesn't mean they're good, they're good at marketing. Well, my son was breaking down for me

the way that these guys, these pro gamers train. You know that they'll play, sometimes they'll play max six hours in a day and I asked him, I said, why don't they play more than that? It goes because they've found that if they play too much, it reduces their performance. Or now. They also exercise regularly.

They exercise it. Some, a lot of them have trainers that work on shoulder stability to help prevent them from getting forward shoulder, they work on, and I coordination exercise these special diets, like these are a big deal. Look at, those are all, look at Honda, SAP, Monster, Twitch, Jersey, hyper, I mean, these are a lot of money

in that sense. But look, a lot of these companies, we might not have heard of, so at some point, it's gonna be all these huge brands I would imagine. It's gonna get much bigger than Honda, and SAP and Monster. Kidding me, those are massive.

That's crazy. I know in South Korea, they have stadiums full packed. Yeah, full of people. What are you doing here? They just started filling in there. Remember when we talked to Mark Mastroff? He's talking about how the gamers are feeling the Sacramento King Stadium up more than some of the basketball.

You guys are gonna be both you guys are gonna be grandpa's and you're gonna be telling your grandkids. When I was younger we played sports in person. Yeah. Yeah. And we got hurt. We actually hit each other. Yeah. Yeah. We got hurt, you know.

Crazy. Like my wrist hurts. Yeah, you're weird. Look, mine pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube. Mine pump podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram, including Doug, the producer. You can find Doug at Mind Pump Doug.

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