Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1486: How to Adjust Your Diet When Hitting a Weight Loss Plateau, Building Mass With Limited Access to Weights, What to Do If Your Joints Are Hypermobile & More
Episode Date: February 10, 2021In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about what’s in Sal’s bag, building mass with only 50-pound dumbbells, adjusting macros and caloric intake when hitti...ng weight loss plateaus, and how to correct hypermobile joints. The anabolic muscle-building effects of cholesterol. (7:21) How parents enjoy embarrassing their children. (11:20) How the guy’s associate themselves now as fathers. (16:50) The lessons learned from lifting weights. (23:32) HubSpot acquires The Hustle. (30:22) The fascinating story of craniopagus twins. (34:15) Interesting partnerships you wouldn’t expect. (36:38) #Quah question #1 - What’s in Sal’s bag? (42:59) #Quah question #2 – Can I build mass with only 50-pound dumbbells? (51:17) #Quah question #3 – How should someone adjust their macros and caloric intake as they hit plateaus for weight loss? How do you know when it’s time to make an adjustment before hitting a plateau? (56:11) #Quah question #4 – You often talk a lot about people not having enough mobility, but what if you have the opposite problem and your joints are actually hypermobile? How do you correct this issue? (1:00:12) Related Links/Products Mentioned February Promotion: Phase II Bundle Excess Tongue Fat Could Be Leading to Sleep Apnea, Scientists Find Tip: Eat Cholesterol, Gain More Muscle Mind Pump #1485: Ten Life Lessons From Lifting Weights HubSpot acquires media startup The Hustle Mind Pump #682: Sam Parr Of The Hustle GW Pharma Will Be Acquired by Jazz Pharmaceuticals for $7.2 Billion Corporate Universe to Acquire Carbon Ion fka ZapGo/Battery EV Technology Company Tatiana And Krista Hogan Featured In CBC Documentary 'Inseparable' Pepsi bets on plant-based snacks with Beyond Meat Domino's giving out free access to movie, TV streaming with online pizza ordering Watch Big Sky TV Show - ABC.com Mind Pump TV - YouTube Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “Mindpump15” at checkout for 15% discount** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1362: What You Can Learn About Building Muscle From Inmates, Gymnasts And Sprinters Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** What is Metabolic Adaptation? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Terry Wahls MD (@drterrywahls) Instagram Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf) Instagram
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MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
You are listening to the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast.
This is Mind Pup.
Now, today's episode we answer four fitness and health questions asked by our audience
and by viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode is with an intro portion.
This is where we talk about current events.
We talk about our sponsors sometimes,
bring up scientific studies.
I'm gonna give you a breakdown of today's podcast, all right?
So we open up, talking about cholesterol
and how it signals muscle growth.
Eating cholesterol can actually help you build muscle.
Of course, you have to be somebody that's healthy
because otherwise you may affect your lipid profile. Then we
talk about Justin's mom. We had a good conversation about that. I talk about the 28 years that I've
spent working out and some of the lessons that I've learned. We talk about a company called
HubSpot that just bought the hustle. This is a great company to look into or invest in.
We talked about a couple of twins,
cranio-pigus twins.
These are twins attached at the head
whose brains are actually connected.
It's kind of cool stuff.
We talk about beyond meat and how the stock jumped
because they're working with Pepsi.
And then we got into the questions.
Now, the first one's funny, right?
The first one, everybody wants to know
what's in my supplement bag. A few episodes everybody wants to know what's in my supplement bag.
A few episodes ago, Adam was teasing me
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The next question, this person want to know if you could build muscle mass with only 50
pound dumbbells, we talk about strategies around using weights that might feel too light
for you.
The next question, this person wants to know how you can adjust your macros, that's your
proteins, fats, and carbs, and calories, as you hit a plateau for weight loss, we talk
about strategies to break through plateaus with your diet.
And then the final question, this person says,
you know, look, you guys talk about mobility all the time,
but what about someone who's hyper mobile?
In other words, a really flexible joints,
but not a lot of strength, and I tend to get injured.
What can I do?
So we give some advice to those of you
that are very flexible, but lack stability.
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How's it feel to be the fat guy, the group, so?
Huh?
How did I get that?
I had to turn.
Yeah, how did I get that? I mean, Justin's looking pretty lean and mean. I think I gotta stop with the fat guy the group, so. Huh? How did I get that? I had a turn. Yeah, how did I get that?
I mean, Justin's looking pretty lean and mean.
I think I gotta stop with the fat jokes on him.
I mean, it's all coming together.
I just dropped seven pounds, where all my fat.
Yeah, I mean, less fat now, that's good.
I don't know, I tell you what, we have it,
now that we have an audience on YouTube
that's really growing, you guys can look in the camera
and in the comments, tell us who the fatist is.
You're probably gonna lose that one, dude.
Have you been watching this?
That's not a look out.
Yeah, look at this.
You look like you got stung by a bunch of bees, dude.
Damn!
In my biceps?
It's just everywhere, dude.
Everywhere else?
Oh man.
All meat, no bones, anyway.
He had that, that, that, that, that, that,
I'm not a meat. Not a first vlog that we did, you were no bones. He had that, that, that, that, I'm not a meat.
Not a first vlog that we did.
You're like this.
Oh yeah.
So, you started mind-pump like five years ago.
And I started snoring while I was awake now.
Whoa.
Not even when I sleep.
That's messed up.
You know, you were talking about that the other day,
actually, Katrina was telling me that she's like,
man, you have been snoring.
It's the weight, dude.
As soon as I'm pushing the weight the same way, yeah like, man, you have been snoring. It's the weight, dude. As soon as I'm pushing the weight, the same way,
yeah.
And I just start snoring.
It's the, you got your side snoring, you got to issue.
That was me, dude.
That's why I said that.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I gotta do something about it.
You know what it is?
I told you guys about this long time ago.
Your tongue gets fatter.
This is, oh yeah, that was mind blowing.
This is what the studies, this is what they say.
They say you snore more when you gain weight
because your tongue gets fat or the way.
That's disgusting.
Yeah, yeah, tongue fat.
You know.
Actually, you ever hear like, what was the name, Biggie?
You know, when he would rap or Big Pun,
you don't even need to see him, you can hear it.
You hear him or voice like, yeah,'t even need to see him, you can hear it. You're under a voice. Yeah, they're big.
Yeah, oh, there's some obesity in that tongue.
Yeah.
Let's go on on right now.
Lane, some fat trash.
Dude, it's crazy.
You read that a couple of years ago.
I remember when you read that study, right?
About the fat tongue.
Yeah, I don't remember what it said though.
What did it say?
Do you remember?
That's what it said.
Your tongue gets fatter.
I know, but like how much?
Oh, I don't know.
It didn't have a percentage of how much
when you put weight on it.
How did they test that?
Anyways, no calipers, you could do that, right?
It's the way your tongue underwater.
Well, I mean, I stick your tongue in the glass.
No, I'm sure you can measure like circumference
of it before and after, right?
Yeah.
Sure, that's how they figured that out.
I imagine that's how they studied it.
Hey, speaking of cool stuff,
not that being fat is cool, but anyway.
I am seeing way more articles now talking about
the anabolic muscle building effects of cholesterol.
Finally.
Well, I mean, how long have I been talking about that?
Shout out to T Nation, right?
Yeah, they just did an article, right?
They love some mind bomb, I swear.
Oh, I know.
Yeah, we got it.
It's going on, boys.
I think we got it.
It's going on, boys, we know got it in. It's going on boys.
We know you're listening.
No, I mean, you know, we've been talking about that
maybe since day one, not that we discovered it, by the way,
it's just like old bodybuilding knowledge,
but now more of the mainstream fitness
is starting to come out and talk,
especially after that one study that came out
that showed that whole eggs versus egg whites,
even if the protein was controlled,
contributed to more muscle.
And it's the cholesterol.
It actually signals muscle growth through a few different mechanisms.
How many things are completely the opposite of what we learn growing up?
Oh, you mean from government telling us what's healthy?
What's healthy?
I feel like it's everything.
Does that make you question what we believe today more?
Well, not what I believe,
because what I believe often is counter to that other stuff,
but I mean, we didn't when we were in it, right?
I mean, we all admitted that we were in the thick of it
and bought into all that.
That fat made you fat, right?
We were pushing the low fat diets back in the,
early 2000s, late 90s.
So candy solves diabetes, that's my next one.
That's your next prediction.
No, but really though, because we've seen just in our short time of being in this space,
we've seen the evolution of nutrition science change so much.
Does that ever make you guys question our beliefs today on what we think is so important
or great or what's working or not amongst all these popular diets.
I'm much more critical in terms of,
yeah, when something comes out like that,
like some new way of, you know,
it's say it's like carnivore diet or say it's something else,
like it's so radical, I'm definitely slow to jump in.
I'm at the point now, and I'm sure you guys are too,
because we talk about this kind of stuff.
We've been just doing this for so long
that you start to learn to be critical.
Because there were so many things I took for granted, so many things I thought were true or
common knowledge that were proven to be totally false.
So, I mean, I'll tell you what, if you're under 30, you don't remember this,
but we used to be, I mean, pushed hard to buy Margarine.
Like this, and in fact, they would call Margarine
something healthy, like healthy spread or heart spread
or whatever, because it was, it was,
it was, it was no saturated fat.
So it was like plastic butters,
they made that a plastic or whatever,
and they would literally label it that,
and it was totally fine
And I remember like well the same with meat right now. I feel oh, yeah, right?
That's so so so meat that's made and a lab is better apparently yeah public enemy number one now is meat
Yeah meat is apparently it's interesting to watch even though it's the one food that you could technically not that I would recommend this
I don't think this is a good choice, but it's the only
single food you could ever just eat by itself
and probably never get a nutrient deficiency.
You can do that with any of that.
Although it's suck, I see, we have friends that are like,
all in the carnivore diet, we have a handful.
Yeah, I don't think it's ideal.
Right, and we were just back, we just got back from trucky
and one of the things we always eat
when we're all together, the four of us guys,
we always do the rib eyes, right?
We do the big rib eyes.
Rib eyes, mushrooms, onions, and asparagus.
It's like the staple meal that we eat.
And we had it back to back days.
And I'm already like, I'm cool on the steak.
You know, I wanted you to take it.
Oh really?
I was like, oh, this is great.
Yeah, it was amazing.
Oh no, it was amazing, both nights.
But then I got home last night,
and I'm like, I don't feel like steak, you know,
or something else.
So I can't imagine doing that.
Is that why you had tacos and cake?
Yeah, that's how it is.
No, I did not.
Did you sell my self-birthday?
I did, I did, I know.
This guy in his cake, both you two,
fly on the radar on the birthdays, do you?
I know.
Because ashamed of your age?
No, I just stopped counting.
That's for certain point.
At this point, you know, you pass 40, it's like whatever.
I actually literally start to forget.
Like, wait a minute, hold my hand.
Now, what are your family, both your immediate family?
So wives and kids, and then also like your immediate family,
like your mom's, dads and uncles.
How are they with your ex's birthday?
Is it like a big celebration still?
Cause your old no one gives a fuck, or what's it like?
I just get a lot of messages.
My mom's a little one that cares.
She still cares, she does hard.
She used to, you know what was embarrassing. She used to make these huge flags and put it outside her house
Like my face on it
Are you serious? Oh, yeah, please tell me you have a picture of that so embarrassing. I'll find it
Did I'll show you please tell me a picture of that this is saying this is the same person who made you dress up like a leprechaun?
Yes, yes, dude. You guys have no idea.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You should put me on a front street all the time.
Your mom was training you.
You know what I mean?
Just like, just deal with it, right?
Yeah, they do.
That's why I'm not embarrassed.
I don't really get embarrassed very often.
I used all that up.
Okay, so tell me in my childhood, did you go through a phase
of your life then of like resentment
and animosity towards her? Sure. Yeah. Oh yeah. You wouldn't be normal if you did you go through a phase of your life then of like resentment and animosity towards her?
Sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you wouldn't be normal. I mean, you wouldn't be normal if you do.
Well, it was mainly over like things that I would tell her and that was going on in school
like I was having problems with my teacher whatever and then she would come in like guns blazing and like
embarrass me. Oh my god, dude. I so I stopped telling her things. She can just picture you. Your mom coming in to save you from getting
in fights. It's more than she's got flags of your face on your birthday.
Oh man. Anybody drove by there. It's just like turn 16.
It went all the way till I left. Disexpoints why you're tough as nails.
You probably got your ass kicked all through fucking my
jeans. I can't quite a bit. Yeah.
She's like, I'm just trying to prevent you from getting bullied.
And you're like, mom, it's the flags in front of the house
on my face.
It's getting me.
It's just rap's honey.
Now what was on the, what was on the fly?
Was like a picture of you as a baby in the bathtub
or was like a current picture?
Yeah, it was like a picture of my, like I was a baby.
Like it had like, you know, this younger face
and then it had like happy birthday.
It had like some sports ball in there,
whatever, like San Francisco 49ers, whatever.
It was just like whatever I was into,
she'd like throw it on the flag and then iron it on there.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, dude, that's so good.
I'm telling you guys, I love your mom.
Yeah, she's crazy.
Have I met your mom?
I'm only met your dad.
I don't know if you've met, yeah.
No, your dad's great.
Your dad's great, I never met your mom though.
Yeah, I met you like, she's, I mean, if you've met. Yeah. No, your dad's great. Your dad's great.
I never met your mom though.
Yeah.
I mean, she's out there.
Like, she's funny.
Like, I hate to admit it, but I get a lot of my personality from her for sure.
Oh.
Like, she's definitely like that, but also can be a lot.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
When you guys were kids, did you guys, your moms have albums of you when you were a baby
in the bathtub naked?
Was that, that was like a thing back then?
And they put you with, you know, like,
they're friends, friends.
They all make it in there.
Yeah, so I'm there.
That was awkward, cause at one point,
I was single and I came back from Chicago
and, you know, they're all trying to play matchmaker
and all the stuff, so I didn't have a girlfriend.
And one of the girls that, you know,
I grew up with good friends, the family, all this stuff.
Like, we got pictures of just us in the bathtub naked
and all this stuff and they're like bringing it out
and like I'm sitting there and she's like,
right next to me is so awkward dude.
You could totally capitalize on that.
I could have.
I mean, I've been like, hey, you want to,
I've already seen you naked.
It's grown substantially.
I know she'd check it out.
Let's see how you go.
Yeah, let's try it again.
It's a good deal.
Let's see how different we look now. Yeah, yeah, let's put them next to each other. Let's compare contrast. Let's see how different we look now.
Yeah, let's put them next to each other.
Let's compare contrasts.
See what happened.
Then you would get in trouble.
What are you doing?
Mom, I'm just, yeah.
We want to see how it all worked out.
You guys encouraged this.
My parents did my 16th birthdays.
I think I've showed you guys.
I've showed you that picture of me like standing on a table and I'm in red underwear and I'm flexing and I'm like, I must be seven years old or so somewhere
around there.
And my 16th birthday, we had taken a, I had a girlfriend who her parents actually owned
a limo and they took for my 16th birthday.
You did a lot of weird shit for being poor.
I know, I had a lot of rich friends.
That's also going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the move.
I was, yeah, no, totally, right? So I had a, I had the, shit for being poor. I know I had a lot of rich friends. That's how I was gonna say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the move.
I was, yeah, no, totally, right?
So I had the move.
That's the move.
I mean, you befriend all the rich kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was no dummy.
You know, I figured that out real early, right?
So I had a girlfriend who was her dad was a lawyer,
and so he owned a limo.
It was an old one, it wasn't that cool.
But it was cool for me, right?
It was cool for my 16th birthday,
we'd go out to like Chevy's or something, right? And then we come back and I count, so I have like 12, I don't
know, 12, 15 my friends and my girlfriend. And we come walking in the door to my house after
we went to Chevy's. And there is a, you know, poster size, you know, 50 by 80, you know,
massive thing of me in my underwear. You know, they blew my mom still has this. She's still got it. Yeah, in storage.
And she everyone's while she pulls it out. Things it's so.
Now you were 16. So was it embarrassing? Because I know now as an adult, you would think
it's hilarious. But when you're 16, you know, sometimes you get embarrassed.
You know what? I've always been, I've always been in the self-depreciating humor. And
because I had crooked teeth, I was poor, I was skinny.
You had no choice.
Yeah, so I leaned into the whole, like, making fun of me.
And so I had thick skin, so it was funny.
It wasn't like, it didn't fucking cripple me or traumatize me,
like, forever, it was funny, right?
It was whatever, but I was that kid.
I was already that kid who did things that was not normal,
was okay with people teasing me.
Like I learned that early on.
Did you? Okay with that.
Yeah, at one point, I figured that out,
but it took me a little while.
I remember there was this video,
I went to Hawaii with my cousin's family
and some other friends of the family.
And so I must have been 13, probably 13 years old,
and my cousin and I are on the beach,
and we're trying to figure out how he's a boogie board.
I had no idea what we're doing.
Actually, in fact, what do we did?
We put the board on the sand,
and wait for the wave to get us.
That's what we thought.
We thought the wave would pull us in.
I don't know what we were thinking.
But anyway, I'm out there.
That's a skin board.
And I'm in my bathing suit, and I'm just skinny, right?
I was an ectomore, right?
So I'm just a skinny kid.
And it took me, I'll get so mad
when they play that family video of that.
He's like, oh, don't show that.
It was too skinny.
I was like until I was like 16 years old
that I finally thought like whatever, not a big deal.
But I remember, I'll get so mad for like,
at least a couple of years.
Don't show that video.
Oh, no, I remember that too.
I had the same thing because my mom was from everything.
And I was goofing and we used to do a lot of lip syncing.
And so, my cousin lived with me for a while.
She was like my older sister and she'd get me,
you know, dress me up and do all kinds of shit to me.
And like we'd like sing songs and stuff.
And one time my mom like took a video of us doing all that.
And then, like I didn't know.
And then she, like we had a bunch of people over watching that.
And I walk in and it was me, you know, goofing and like,
you know, acting a fool.
What were you wearing?
I was wearing a wig and I'm saying
that was singing some ridiculous pop song.
And oh my God, I was so mad.
I was like, you're not mad.
I'm like stormed off.
I wonder if kids today are less embarrassed
because everything is filmed all the time
or if it's worse.
You know what I'm saying?
That's because when you're a kid, you see a video
you're just probably, when we were kids,
if I saw a video myself, it was not a normal thing.
Like the best thing.
I think it's worse now because teasing and bullying
has always been around, right?
Even when we were kids, right?
So it's no different.
It's just how kids get teased and bullied now.
So like if you have a video that gets seen by somebody
that's your peer,, I imagine that kids share
and post that shit.
That's really common in high school.
I'm a buddy who's the principal.
He has to police that.
That's one of the most common things is
the way kids bully is they get a picture of a kid
that they tease and make fun of the drawn is.
Yeah, exactly.
The way they're eating and then they do shit to it
and then they post it or they do shit to it. Absolutely.
And then they post it or they text it to everybody.
It's in the classroom and now everybody's looking
at this photo.
So, yeah, it's like a different type of bowling, right?
It's not like we dealt with bowling where somebody,
some bully gets in your face and like throws you
in the trash can or something.
You know, I'm saying physically does something to you
or it's, I think it's more like a mental warfare
for kids today.
It's the only way.
Because then only like two people watch, right? So like it wasn't like the whole school got to see it. You know, now it's more like a mental warfare for kids today. It's the only way. Two people watch, right?
So like, it wasn't like the whole school got to see it.
You know, now it's like, you do something,
you post it out there, but I got it.
Well, that's true.
I mean, think of that because, you know,
if I got bullied, it was when the bully was there.
When the bully wasn't there, it was one to one.
There was no bullying.
And many times he does that privately, right?
He can't do that where the teachers are at
and lots of kids are at.
So, you know so he catches you
somewhere by yourself and then you get pumped.
Yeah, you're safe when you get home
or if they're not around, but if it's online,
you're not safe anywhere.
You're looking at your phone and probably checking,
you know, like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this is that.
Wow, that would be terrible.
Yeah, and as a kid.
Yeah, no, I mean, it'll be interesting, right?
I have a kid who's growing now, so we'll see,
and I know you guys are really starting to get into that world. I know both of your kids have, they be interesting, right? I have a kid who's growing now. So we'll see, and I know you guys are really starting
to get into that world.
I know both of your kids have, they have phones, right?
But just my son, oh, your son does, your daughter doesn't.
So, you know, I don't know.
I once last time you asked him stuff like that, you know,
like what's that like?
Well, I told you that he, by just association,
he got in trouble because he was in this big group thread.
And one of the
kids on there, I don't remember exactly what happened but one of the other kids was, you
know, basically bullying him through the text with like a few things that he said to him.
Bullying your son or no, somebody else.
Somebody else.
Right, right, but my son was in the thread and because my son and other kids didn't jump
in to stop it.
So this is why he got in trouble.
He got in trouble, which, you know, part of me's like really, you need in trouble for not,
but then the other part of me's like,
you know what, that's not a bad lesson.
Like if you see something in your there,
you should say, hey, this isn't cool.
But anyway, he got, you know,
reprimanded because he didn't jump in
with a lot of the other kids.
And so there's some bullying that happened.
But this was a group text that wasn't online.
Online, I'm sure it would have been a lot worse.
That's interesting that you, it's a grouped thread,
which the kid who's in the thread is obviously,
has made the choice to be in the thread.
He gets, how is that any different than the bullying
that I do with you on a regular basis in our thread?
There's four of us in a thread.
I talk shit to, we talk shit to each other all the time
in there, because we're friends,
we have each other's cell phone numbers.
How is that?
Well, this was the conversation I had with my son.
As I said to him, I said, number one, if you're seeing somebody
that needs help or whatever, it's a good idea to say something,
or leave, at the very least.
But I said also, number two, choose the people that you have
this kind of relationship with wisely,
because not everybody's, like, we, like, just us, rip each other.
If people saw the stuff that we said and did with each other,
they'd be mortified.
But we, this is the kind of, we think it's hilarious.
In fact, when you guys rip on me,
it's like, I can't stop laughing.
It's the funniest thing ever.
Yeah.
But if some people aren't like that,
some people get really, the feelings get really hurt
or they take it the wrong way.
If you watched, and I was gonna bring this up
because I watched the Breakfast Club, the movie,
you know, the old school classic, right?
And you think it's good, right?
Like, yeah, it's like, that's a great movie.
And I watched it again, and I was like,
oh my God, it's a terrible movie.
It was just a bunch of whiny little wimps, dude.
That's just you're trying about everything.
And this guy was being such a douche,
the whole entire movie. You're just like, oh my God, about everything and this guy was being such a douche the whole entire movie
You're like oh my god. Why was this good? It's because you're your dad now, dude. Yeah, I want to slap all of them
I don't know. Yeah, that's a classic. Oh my god
Watch it again. Oh, I've watched enough that I watch that one probably every year. I watch it. I like that one
I do too. It's I mean, it's it represents
It's like coming of age exactly it represents what you probably were liking high school
Here's what happens and this is a weird transition that happened to me not that long ago
I used to I used to identify with the kids in the movie now I start to identify with the principal
Yeah, I'm like, you know, you know, that's what it is. There was a massive shift
I was like what?
I can't even put up with this. Yeah,
like, totally, totally. Yeah. These kids just stop. That's what it is. You're just
not the movie. You've changed. 100%. I'll watch a movie where there'll be some like kids
that like they want to go out and they want to party and drink. And you know, when I was
younger, I was like, yeah, this can be cool. Now as a dad, I'm like, these, I hope to parents
like this terrible. I couldn't imagine if I was that parent.
I'd be so angry right now.
I know, right?
You just associate with someone
with the other person.
Oh, 100%.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Anyway, so obviously, you guys said today's my birthday,
and I was thinking back to when I first started working out
and I did the math, I have been working out consistently
for 28 years, almost three decades.
What do you think is the longest break
in 28 years you've taken?
From working how?
Yeah, and how many times?
Like how many times have you taken that long of?
Only injuries.
I was gonna say, so you've had injury like your shoulder,
right?
Yeah, shoulder.
And how much that puts you down?
I mean, it was like a couple of weeks
and then I started doing rehab
and I would train the rest of my body.
When I was doing Jiu-Jitsu, I didn't lift a lot,
but I was still lifting two days a week at least,
because I was doing a lot of Jiu-Jitsu.
I don't think I've ever taken like a break
except for when I was injured or sick or something like that.
Or sport, yeah.
So it's been pretty consistent,
but thinking back to the stuff that I learned
or the value that I got from it,
it's really, yes, I definitely can change my body.
I mean, I'm a classic hard-gainer, ectomorph.
So I definitely changed that.
I think I've definitely had some muscle hyperplasia
and things that, you know, like if I never lifted weights,
I would still be that hard-gainer that I was as a kid.
I think it's my natural tendency.
But the real value I got is all the,
others has nothing to do with the physical stuff.
It's all about the like,
you know what it reminds me of Karate Kid
when he's waxing the car and painting the fence.
Like the lessons he's learning from doing that
are go to other places, in that case it was Karate.
He doesn't see it initially.
He does it.
So for me it was like, I learned the lesson of like,
you're gonna suck at stuff before you get good.
And you're probably gonna suck at stuff for a long time.
But that's okay, just keep trying.
And that you don't get any,
there's no real fundamental change or significant change
in anything you do unless you're really uncomfortable.
Like I learned that.
I learned how to have a different relationship
with physical, being physically uncomfortable.
I think it's crazy that you've gone 28 years
and never a whole month.
What about you, Doug?
I know you're just in you too.
What's the longest breaks that you guys have had?
I've had periods where I've had fairly long breaks.
Right.
Like when I lived in Japan, I did work out for a while there
and then I kind of got out of it for maybe a couple years.
Yeah.
So maybe that's about as long.
Yeah, just.
Yeah, I think, well, at least three or four months
after a football, I was like, just,
I don't know what it was, but there was just a moment
where I was just completely fried
because I was so high performance driven.
Like I wanted to smash weights every time,
and I just, I felt like that was the only way
to work out.
And so I was just like, I'm gonna just step away for a while.
And then I was eating and drinking, and I got fat as fuck.
It just happened.
And then I just didn't like it.
I didn't like the feeling of not being in the gym, not being strong and energetic.
And it just got to me.
And so I just slowly made my way back.
Yeah, I think the longest I've ever gone
is probably three to six months,
but I've done that a few times.
I can recall several injuries sometimes,
coming off, not that long ago with the testosterone thing
and the Achilles injury.
Like, I've done probably a few times in my life
since I started training,
where I've taken like three months to six months.
You know what always brings me back though,
to your point, Sal, it's not, oh my God,
look at my body, like I don't,
it's always like, I sort of feel like
lethargic and lazy.
It's the mental and emotional effects.
And the mood, like my, I start to notice,
like always, for me, when I would take a break,
the first couple weeks were actually almost refreshing.
Like, oh, I, all this free time.
I have to go to the gym now and this and that.
And the next thing I notice is sleeping in longer,
you know, tired throughout the day.
Like, just not, you know, I need to go do something
in the afternoon and I've already sat down
and I want to get back up.
Like, you're real us motivated.
Yes, I start to, I start to notice that
and I start to see it bleeding into other aspects of my life.
That's what always gets me.
That's how it always goes, you know what?
I need to get it out of the funk and get back in the gym even if it's just something real
basic, whether it be mobility or rowing or doing something because that's what starts
to eat the way at me more than anything else.
Yeah, it's, you know, for me, it's just a daily, I don't know, meditation is the best
word I could do.
I know it's not meditation, but for me, it's in the same sense, it replenishes me.
It focuses me, centers me.
And so I find that kind of value when I do that.
So, but you know, in the most simplest terms,
the way I explain it to clients is,
you know, all the outside world,
you receive through this physical body.
So everything that you see and feel and hear and perceive
has to come through your eyes and your ears
and your body, your skin.
And so if your body is not healthy,
then you're gonna perceive the world worse
and studies show this.
People who are fit tend to handle challenges better,
they tend to view things more positively.
It's a filter, so if your filter's dirty,
and the air can be clean on the other side,
but when it goes to that filter, it's gonna smell dirty.
So it's like, I wanna make myself,
at least my physical body, which I can control a lot of,
I wanna make it so that I perceive things
in the best possible way, And that's what fitness does.
I was having an interesting conversation with Courtney about,
well, she just got diagnosed with Hashimoto's.
And we were talking about gut issues.
And I just, I can't help but think that the majority of people have gut issues
based on what they've been eating over the years.
And like maybe it hasn't really hit them in certain ways that it's like super noticeable,
but you know, cause I know so many healthy people
that have been able to identify these things now.
And I just feel like that,
you know, there become sort of a new normal,
the way that you operate,
and you just sort of deal with whatever pain
or whatever it's comfort or whatever skin issues
or all these things.
Like you're just, you think that's just a part of you
and how you should be, you know, every day
and it's not the case.
Totally.
Think about this.
Think about, you know, people in your family
who you know as a fitness professional,
whatever is unhealthy, bad mobility unhealthy.
Like I have family members like that.
Imagine if for a day you could switch bodies,
the contrast you would feel would be like,
oh my god, how do you do this?
I think it's a slow boil.
I think that they slowly gets that point
and they're like, oh no, this is just-
You know what, healthy feels like it.
Exactly.
And I'm totally fine, I feel told.
This is why when you would get clients,
how often would you do this?
You'd get a client, and especially when you became good
as a trainer after five years of training or whatever,
and you would do exercises to make them feel less pain,
and they'd be, their minds would explode after a couple of months.
I didn't realize my back was so stiff,
and now I can move, or, oh my God,
I reached up to grab something,
and then I could totally reach up higher on the cat,
stuff that they just blew their mind,
because they were so used to how they felt.
It's wild.
Hey, we talked about this.
I think, God, it's been probably, I wanna to say two years or so, maybe a little bit longer
when we started to, when do we get HubSpot, Doug, two years ago?
Yeah, at least two years ago.
So when we got HubSpot, we were all excited about that coming.
I think the stock was trading in about 130 a share around that time.
When we got it, when we got it was lower than that, when I bought it was like 130.
Yeah, yeah, it was right around there. So it was between one and one, when I bought it was like 130. Yeah, yeah
It was right around there so it was between one and when we were talking about it on the podcast
Did you see the news they just
They just acquired the hustle one of our favorite newsletters that we do say how much they paid for it
They didn't say how much they paid for it
They did say I did read though how many subscribers that the hustle has they have like over 1.5 million
Subscribers that open,
their open rate is ridiculous.
You remember when we had him on the show, right, the CEO, and he talked about their open
rate was like well over 40%.
They must have a massive email list.
That's probably why I have to.
Over 1.5 million, so they just said, yeah, so they have over 1.5 million people that are
on that list and over half, about half of them are opening that every single day.
Wow.
Yeah, so it's, well, as of right right now HubSpot is over $400 a share.
Yeah, and now here's my personal opinion.
Now, full disclosure, I own some HubSpot shares,
but I believe because HubSpot handles online marketing
and you know, siloing your email lists and all that stuff
and because so many businesses are online now
and we'll continue to grow.
Yeah, it's basically the new standard.
Yeah, HubSpot's gonna be like an Amazon or a Google.
Like it's because it's one of the best ones.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think it's still, even at $400 a share,
I would say it's a good long play.
Speaking of shares, you guys see GW pharmaceutical?
What happened to?
What bought for $7 billion?
Yeah, so I think it was jazz pharmaceuticals.
I think that was a name of bot.
So, Gidoe pharmaceuticals for the people who don't know
is a pharmaceutical company that makes
cannabinoid-based medicine.
So, medicine based off of marijuana.
They have the, some of the only approved drugs
based off of cannabinoids, and they have a huge pipeline
of drugs coming through phase one trials, phase two trials. And they got bought and the share exploded. I think it went up 40 something percent,
trading it over $200.
Wow.
So that was a good, I bought that one.
I bought that one on a, was a pink sheet, meaning it was a trade.
You were on a pink sheet, huh?
Yeah, I had to.
It was trading at $9 a share when, first, and this is when I was deep in the marijuana science, when my family member had cancer and I was trading at $9 a share, and this is when I was deep in the marijuana science when my family member
was at cancer and I was studying it.
So I'm like, I'm gonna buy this.
So I just bought a bunch of pink sheets,
and I normally stay away from that, right?
Cause it's such high risks to do something like that.
But my buddy, Brennan's been telling me
to watch this company, Carbon Eye on,
that just got bought out by the ticker COUV,
and I forget the name of the holding company
that bought them and they're trying to take them
to the New York Stock Exchange.
They have like over, I think, 30 or 60 patents
on this battery.
Now how are you buying them on the pink,
because I know the online trading,
they don't let you buy pink sheets or do you?
Yeah, you can, okay.
But you have to go.
You just have to do like,
there's something I have to change
in the on my e-trade account.
Okay.
Do you know what's called that?
Yeah, I think you have to set a limit. Yeah. So there's some things that I have to change in on my e-trade account. Okay. Do you know what's called that? Yeah, I think it has to have a limit.
Yeah.
So there's some things that I have to do.
Probably signs to like check something that's like a disclaimer or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, you get like a little warning that this is not on the New York Stock Exchange
or whatever.
Yeah, but I mean, it's so chatting that it's right around like 40 something cents right
now.
So it's not a major investment, a major risk for me,
but I really like what they're doing.
You're talking about batteries,
like for car batteries that will last,
I think it was up to like 40 something years,
something ridiculous.
It chart like a car battery will charge within the same time
that you would pump gas,
the car battery will recharge that fast.
That sounds groundbreaking.
Oh, it is groundbreaking.
Like I sent you an email to read all,
read everything that I sent over to you
that I'm really interested in it
and watching that right now, so it's pretty exciting.
Wow, that's really cool.
I'm gonna look, I know you talked to me about it.
I'm gonna look a little bit closer into that.
Hey, you guys might hear something,
like I just learned this the other day.
I thought it was fascinating.
I'll see if you guys think about this.
So there's these two, there's this Canadian twins
and they're, I can't remember the term that they used You guys think about this. So there's these two, there's this Canadian twins,
and they're, I can't remember the term that they used,
oh, they're, let's see,
I wrote it up there, cranio pagus twins.
Do you know what that means?
No.
Cranio pagus.
Or heads are attached.
Or heads are attached.
Or heads are attached.
And their brains.
And these, that's what you said, paguses?
Yeah, no.
Yeah, the twins that fly.
Yeah, that'd be awesome.
No, they're attached at the head.
Yeah. And their brains actually have a connection.
Oh, wow.
So they can literally feel what the other person's feeling.
That's why.
They know what the other person's thinking.
And they can oftentimes taste smell
or see what the other person's feeling.
Dude, how weird would that be?
How weird would that be to be thinking something in a room?
And then the other twin said something like, no something like no no no I don't like that.
Dude.
Yeah.
You know, you're like you're one, I mean just like you're two people but you share one
consciousness almost.
I thought that was so fascinating.
I've never heard of that.
Never heard of that.
That is fascinating.
So you can't do anything about it right?
You're trying to separate it. they might kill them or whatever.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Wasn't there a case, I don't know, a few years back, I've thought I remember, maybe we've
even talked about it, where a doctor was the first doctor to actually separate those.
Oh, I don't think it was this kind of, I think it was.
They were attached to the head.
Yeah, look it up.
I don't know what you would, what you would Google to find that, but I'm sure.
Yeah, but I probably didn't share thoughts. Oh, yeah, no, I didn't read anything like that
I don't think they were that maybe they weren't that connected. There was one pair of of
Conjoined twins where they were they were on TV for a while and then they would date
I thought that was very interesting because like one of them had a boyfriend
So like what is the other one? I guess the other one's just there. When they just kind of just crossword puzzles.
Yeah, yeah.
Like what are you doing?
You guys done yet?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is this rare set of Conjoined Twins
successfully separated in 24-hour surgery at UC Davis?
Wow, that's fascinating.
You know, Conjoined Twins, you're right,
they were attached at the head.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Very sad story with Conjoined Twins, the history,
they almost always were the only way they could make a living for themselves
is to be in a circus and have people pay to look at that.
I know, that's something that's tough.
Very sad.
Interesting too, very fascinating.
Anyway, it's pretty crazy stuff.
Yeah.
Do you guys see Beyond Meat?
It's talked about stocks, right?
Just shot up like 31% because they did a joint venture with Pepsi.
Oh, wow.
That's like, so the new thing right now, it's not new.
Like it's been happening, I feel like.
It's like cocaine partnering with heroin.
No, I mean, we saw, remember the Super Bowl last year?
I think it was Doritos and Sprite partnered up.
Like, so you're starting to see a lot of these companies that you would think are kind
of competitors.
You know, they're like, if they're in food and beverage, you would consider that, you
know, a competitor. But I mean, they're, they're like, if they're in food and beverage, you would consider that a competitor.
But I mean, they're enough different
that they are starting to see these companies partner up.
And so I find it interesting that Pepsi is doing something
with Beyond Meat.
And I think that's gonna be,
you'll see commercials probably this year coming out.
Wow, well, that's, I mean, it makes sense.
It makes sense to partner up to, you know, fast foods
or snack foods or whatever.
But you'll be on meat for me, it's just,
say how can we make meat unhealthy?
Oh, let's make it, let's invent it out of all these parts.
Do you even grill it or is it like microwave?
Well, no, you grill it and it's technologically
it's fascinating.
The engine you're the shit at a plant product
to make it like bleed and taste like meat.
So it's still drips and everything.
Yes, yeah, it's so it's taste good. The macros are the same as meat. So it's like it's lower calorie. It's less healthy.
It's literally high. You eat a burger. It's the vegetable oil. Well, the ingredients of burger is meat. It's like it's just beef.
Yeah, the ingredient. Get yourself a beyond burger, flip it, look at the ingredients.
There's like 500 things.
Yes.
It's like advanced science.
Yeah, to match nature, yeah.
They need a ton of ingredients.
So you got to ask yourself,
why would a company do that?
Is the market for not eating meat that big?
Maybe.
Or how can we sell a burger patty and patent it so nobody else can sell a burger patty.
Yeah, that's both. Right. Right. I mean, think about you can't patent a beef patty,
but you can patent a beyond burger. Nobody else has that. Right. Right. Crazy technology. I saw
another interesting Doug would you Google this for me so I make sure I get my facts right. Dominoes
merges with or partners with streaming service.
I'm pretty sure I read this somewhere.
I thought it would be smart
where you're watching Netflix.
And would you like a pizza?
So yeah, I think I can't remember where this,
I came across this, but Dominoes has made
a lot of technological moves.
They have, and they've rebranded it a couple times.
Like, you know what, that would be a fun CEO talk to you.
Although, it's so weird for my opinion.
I feel like they've had automated automated their epic self-driving vehicles.
Oh yeah I thought looking on to deliver pizza. I thought that was smart. Yeah. It's giving
out. Domino's giving out free 30 day movie streaming subscriptions. If you order a pizza online
that's smart. Is that yeah you know I've never had a dominoes pizza. So, epics used to be... Forbidable.
Epics is the old cinematics.
Am I getting that right?
Epics, so I have that streaming service.
They do, remember Justin, I introduced you to the Batman,
the prequel with the Butler and stuff like that.
Yeah, epics, yeah.
Pennywise.
Yeah.
So, that, I believe they used to be a different company. I don't remember epics
Cinematics that was the I think it was that was the channel watch after 10 p.m. Yeah, yeah, yeah, skin to max
Yeah, who is it?
American premium cable and satellite television network that is owned by epics entertainment a subsidiary of Metro Golden Mayor MGM
Oh MGM. Yeah, so penny worth. Yeah. Oh penny worth. Well, they say penny wise company owns
Epic click on that and see oh stars. That's what it was. Oh, so stars is now becoming epic got it got it
How many so Adam how many of these individual channels?
We could like your gym memberships. So you still grow. Yeah, it's I'm really bad with this stuff. Like, I, so you, I have epics. I have the ESPN one.
I have sling.
I have hulu.
I have Netflix.
I have HBO, HBO max.
Yeah, it's been a regular HBO show.
Showtime Disney.
Thank you, Doug.
God, damn, I should probably add all these up.
Yeah.
Probably paying way more than I used to be.
Yeah.
Dude, they got us.
I don't know, bro.
Like, I mean, even if you were to add all those up, because some of those, like, ESPN was an
extra $4.99, Disney's like $9.
Dude, it used to be like $200 something, right?
Yes, no.
My cable bill was $200 in like $50 or $20.
Yeah.
Yeah, a month.
And then when football season came around and I would get the Sunday ticket, it would
shoot that up to like $400, $500 for the next three, four months.
Wow. Yeah. So I had no idea. and they ticket it would shoot that up to like four, 500 for the next three, four months. Wow!
That's good.
So I had no idea.
So I paid a lot of money for cable before.
So even though I have all of those streaming services
and I could probably get rid of some of them
that I don't use very often,
I still think it's up to you.
Do you have what's called YouTube bread?
I don't have YouTube, yeah.
I didn't.
I know you guys.
Well, it's like, if you have Hulu, there's no real point.
You need one streaming service like that though, so you can actually get like real channel still
You know it might sling so sling does that also. So I have hulu and you know
There's a great show on hulu called big sky. Have you heard of this? It's ABC. It's an ABC film and it's really good
You guys should check it out. It's like a cop. I don't know your recommendations are suspects. No, this is this is good
I'll let Doug and check it it out. Yeah, good.
Listen, Justin and I tend to be on the same page.
I got him on the Bob Lazar.
We were listening on the drive home interview
with Joe Rogan.
Oh, that was crazy.
It is so crazy.
I'm gonna watch that documentary now.
So detailed, I don't know.
Like it's probably the most compelling you a foothing.
Yeah.
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Could I have a bag that's got supplements in it and it's gonna take it with me a cute little little emin bag
He carried it just cuz it was a bag that I grabbed
Just cuz back you did one thing there and he
You know came out but I you know I carry it into the studio and I have supplements in there. And-
You have a lot of supplements in there.
I do.
I don't use them all all the way.
Well, I'll go through.
You want me to go through.
Not only do I want you to go through them,
but I want you to, as you go through them,
because you have some weird shit in there, I believe.
Please tell the audience and us what it is and why you take it.
All right.
Yeah, there's gotta be a reason for each thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll hold it up.
So there's the red bag you guys are making fun of.
All right, I'll start with the first thing.
Let's see.
Okay, here's the first thing.
It's a baby on board.
Sign.
Okay, so this is story behind that.
Are you a guy that actually sticks that in his window?
I'm supposed to stick this on my window.
Jessica put it in here to stick on the window.
And I didn't.
And then a week later, there's a sticker on the window that says baby on board.
So Jessica won Sal Zero.
Oh my goodness.
Wow.
Still in there.
All right.
I'll go through.
I'll just grab the first thing.
So this is a Cilium husk, which is a fiber supplement.
And now everybody knows I struggle with gut issues here and there.
So I tend to take Cilium husk after two or three meals to help. Now do you take that every day or do you all-
Every day. Oh you do.
I do and I haven't-
If I don't matter whatever you're eating too, it's just like-
If it's a big meal, if it's a snack no big deal, but if it's a big meal.
And what happens if I don't is I start to develop SIBO again.
And so I'm in this constant struggle.
Although right now I'm doing pretty well, but I still take this.
So I'll take like five or six of these after a meal.
So there you go there.
After, wait, five or six after every meal?
After, after usually lunch and dinner.
So 10 of those a day?
Yeah, but they're small, it's not a big deal.
Okay, okay.
Okay, well we just got,
we just got started.
We're already at 10 pills.
So, and then this is,
move to the powders.
This is paleovali's neural effects.
So it's one of their,
how do you like that?
I haven't tried that.
I've been trying it.
I've been taking it consistent.
So I have it in here so I can remember to take it and try it out.
And I think I like it.
I think I have noticing that I've got, I'm a little bit sharper.
So it's got, it's got, you know, compounds and things in there that help with brain function.
Okay, how different?
Because I know one of our, our favorites is Organifies Pure.
How different is it from that?
You know, it's different ingredients. Okay. Oh, it is it from that? You know, it's different ingredients.
So it is completely different.
Yeah, it's got some different ingredients.
Oh, I'll have to try that one.
So you can use them both.
Okay.
You can both combo it.
And then this, so this right here,
actually I gave some of these suggestions
of what we can.
I mean, like some.
Oh yeah.
It's got an embarrassing name, by the way.
I asked you for that, then Courtney ordered them for me.
Yeah, what is it?
She did.
So if you have a rectal dysfunction, I'm just kidding. So here's the deal. Hey man, you know, I I asked you for that then courtly ordered them for me. What is it? What is it?
Yeah.
So, so if you have a rectal dysfunction, I'm just going to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have So this has peppermint, oil, ginger, fennel, oil in these capsules.
You take it 30 minutes before you eat.
And so essentially when you eat,
you don't get this bad bacteria that can cause problems.
So I'll take this about 15 to 30 minutes before I eat a meal.
How many of those pills?
One.
Yeah, one before.
But I gave some to Justin too when he had that sandwich.
What you think?
Oh, it totally worked.
Yeah, it was crazy.
Yeah, I didn't get any answers.
And how much different is that than like taking like a probiotic? Totally different. Okay, it's totally worked. Yeah, it was crazy. It didn't get any acid. And how much different is that than like taking a probiotic?
Totally different.
Okay, it's totally different.
Probiotic are beneficial bacteria.
These are antimicrobials.
These you take them and they kill bacteria.
Okay.
So it's like a natural antibiotic.
Got it.
Essentially.
All right, then the next thing I got here is my Ned Hempoil,
which I love. I love taking this during the day.
It's good for kind of chills me out.
If I take it with caffeine, I get this really, really good focus.
Yeah, that's the move.
Yeah, so I'll use this maybe two or three times a week.
Would you say you use the regular hemp which you're holding right now more than the sleep?
Yeah, in fact, I have two of the sleep bottles in this plastic bag because they are oil.
So I have those and I'll take that at night
for sleep sometime.
And it's just me, you pass them over your boy.
Yeah, I know you jumped on the last batch I got here.
I'm with you.
Really?
Once I got introduced to sleep, I used to sleep
like 90% of the time.
I rarely use.
So good for me.
The hemp anymore because I,
you were using it for sleep.
I was, I was mostly using it for sleep. I was I was mostly
using it to calm me down at night to get a better nights rest. And once they came out with that
sleep plan, dude, that's like another lesson. It's taking an hour before I go to bed too. So that
way, yeah, because I before I would do it like, you know, 10, 20 minutes beforehand, the
cop is good. The combo with the sleep and making sure you have your blue blockers on at night,
like I'll just be powerful. I go to, I do dinner.
I do dinner around seven o'clock or so or seven thirty-ish.
And then right after that, I'm taking that and I have my blue block,
and I'm telling you about an hour later, I'm like,
yawning and like ready for bed.
It's so nice because you're just like,
oh man, I'm really tired.
I'm just gonna go to bed now.
Yeah, that's why I save it.
So I don't use it every night because I feel like if I do,
then maybe lose his effect.
So I'll use it like a couple nights a week
and I'll get, like I'll sleep hard.
I sleep in a dream.
And do you guys dream a lot when you take it?
Yeah, well, I definitely get deep sleep.
Yeah, very, very deep.
Okay, so there's that.
And then I always have some of the organified green juice
packets with me.
Clutch.
Yeah, because, you know, if I don't get vegetables
or whatever, I'll drink one of these.
This just, it just feels good. This is probably one of the or whatever, I'll drink one of these. This just feels good.
This is probably one of the more consistent supplements I'll take.
As long as we've been with Organifi,
I've probably used Green Juice.
Now, there's a lot of controversy around Green Juice.
Why is that?
Why do some people hate on it so much?
Because they'll say things like,
just eat your vegetables.
No shit.
You know?
Vegetables are superior.
Okay, if you're trying to drink a Green Juice
because you think it's gonna be as good
as eating vegetables, you're an idiot.
But if you misveshable and take sometimes,
which we all do, then these are clutch.
Yeah, and also the serving amounts
that you should probably be ingesting,
like, Dr. Terry Walls, like, her standards,
like, good luck trying to like, cram that
may be vegetables in a day.
Yes, totally.
And then, you know, if I don't do like a other, like a specialized pre-workout or
rubber, I'll take caffeine with theanine.
So this is just, and no association with a lot of these brands, by the way, it's just,
I like caffeine with theanine, it feels the best.
I've talked about this on the podcast, and then if you combine this.
I didn't even know they make a supplement that actually had it combined.
Yeah, we always used to take them separate.
Yeah, you could take them separate or, you know, obviously I have a lot of bottles in here.
I don't want extra bottles in here, so I buy it
so that it comes like this.
And then I'll combine it sometimes with alpha GPC,
which gives me the best, like focus, the best focus.
Now would you do that?
You wouldn't do that at the same time you did
that what was the other, the neuro effect from paleo?
That's probably too much of your mess in with it.
No, it's not too much. I have done that. That's a good time.
That's a really that's a really good time. Yeah. And then the last thing lately I've
been using a lot of the element. This is the raw wolf. I'm on two time. I did it again.
So are you guys noticing better pumps and stuff like that? I'm on to a good workout with
it so far. I'm saving my I'm saving my review until I've got enough consistent days
that tease it out with other stuff.
We'll see.
So far, so good.
I'll tell you what though, I did the chocolate one last time
and somebody was like, oh, have you tried that in coffee?
And I hear the combining it with the cold brew.
I just did that this morning.
How was it?
It was so good with Nitro.
Oh my God.
Oh yeah, so you and Doug both did that.
Yeah, super tasty. Yeah, so that's basicallyro. Oh my God. Oh yeah, it's fine. You and Doug both did that.
Yeah, super tasty.
Yeah, so that's basically it.
I don't take this stuff every,
no stuff I take the most consistently is the gut stuff
because I eat every single day,
green juice, probably the other one.
The NAD is just the best hemp oil product ever.
I've used probably 30 different hemp CBD type products
and nothing compares to hemp, excuse me,
to Ned in terms of the effects,
but that's pretty much it.
Most of the stuff I just carry it with me
because I'm a weirdo.
So thanks for calling me out.
You fucks.
Hey, that's what we're here for.
Next question is from Dan, Yo 12 12.
Can I build mass only with 50 pound dumbbells?
That's a good question.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely you can.
Now I guess the real question is,
what happens when I get so strong
that the 50 pound dumbbells start to feel light?
Try a six second negative and get back to me.
I was just gonna say,
there's a whole lot of variables we can play with.
There's many ways to make a weight heavier.
Remember, your body doesn't really know
you're lifting 50 pounds, it just knows the tension.
One way to make a weight heavier is to add weight. The other
ways to go slower, change your form. I hold the squeeze, hold in certain positions.
Hold the stretch. I did this last week with squats. I had some weight on the
bar and rather than going heavier, I just held the bottom position for five seconds.
I love that. So I love that. So one of my favorite exercises is anyway, it's about 50 pounds, is what I do this with,
is incline alternating dumbbell press, and I either hold at the bottom or I hold at
top, and I switch that up.
So I'll do an isometric hold at the top, where I'm squeezing my chest, where the other
one's going down, and I'm alternating back and forth like that, or I'll do the opposite,
where I'm holding down in the stretch position and then I just...
But you're maintaining tension.
Exactly.
You're not arresting you.
Yeah, no, it's isometric.
So you're getting that.
We talk about the benefits of that, and a lot of people don't include that in their
workout.
That's a great way to include in your workout, and a great reason to do it is because you
don't have the weight to scale up.
So interesting story, right?
So during World War II, there weren't a ton of gyms, but there was definitely, at
the time, there was a developing muscle building culture where you had, you know, some guys
that would like the lift weights to develop and build
or buy, especially in Southern California
and some places on the East Coast.
During World War II, there was, they were rationing steel,
right, they needed it to produce planes and bombs
and weapons, and so it was hard to get weights
that were heavier than, I don't remember what the weight was, but a certain amount.
It was just too expensive, too hard, you couldn't get it.
So at the time, the bodybuilders started experimenting
with super slow motion, these called super slow motion reps,
where they go really slow.
So you got these guys that are used to lifting 200 or 300 pounds.
Now they, all they have is 100 pounds.
What can they possibly do?
That's exactly what they did.
They slowed the reps down,
and what came out of that was the understanding
that you could develop your body
with these different novel ways of training,
and it became a whole form, a whole way of extra training.
There's still a lot of camps around that way of training.
So I'll never forget, this was my,
I wanna say third, second or third boss
when I was just getting into training, and he was probably 25, I want to say third, second or third boss when I was just getting into training.
And he was probably 25, I'm only like 20, 19, 20 at this time.
And I remember, he, great, great shape.
In fact, he competed.
But the way he trained was the super slow technique.
Now everything he did was that.
So he would take a weight and he would, I mean, he would just go as slow as possible.
And sometimes it'd only be three reps.
And he would come, it would take the muscle to failure
that way under control.
And I, I looked phenomenal, dude.
And that's how he trained.
And up into that point, I never kind of bought into the,
I wasn't doing any isometric stuff.
I was never really paying attention
to the eccentric motion and going really slow.
After meeting him, that changed my training.
And I started to play around with it.
And then I started digging a little bit deeper.
Yeah, you guys talk about slow.
And I said, you can also move really fast with them.
You can do dumbbell snatches, you can do cleans,
you can do a lot of things where you're getting
fast twitch activation with those 50 pounds
and you know, get a whole new stimulus.
Oh, completely.
Again, there's so many ways to make a weight feel heavy.
You don't need to add weight every single time.
You look at guys in prison when they start
especially in California when they took weights out
and they couldn't lift anymore.
They would experiment with stuff like this
and it was like, in the guards,
a lot of the guards were like,
damn, what do we do now?
Oh yeah, and these dudes are still jacks.
Oh, and imagine, you know, you throw out some cool stuff.
Like, take a 50 pound dumbbell chest press
and then superset that with explosive pushups.
Yeah.
Right afterwards.
I mean, there's a lot of cool things, you know,
Katrina and I were getting ready to move soon
and so we're actually ordering a PRX for the house
because we'll be far from the gym here.
And I told her just to get up to 50 pound dumbbells.
Exactly what she's like, you know,
let's get some dumbbells too.
And I'm like, ah, you know, we don't need a whole set of them. I got plenty at the studio. And as long as I got up to 50 pound dumbbells. Exactly what she's like, you know, let's get some dumbbells too. And I'm like, ah, you know, we don't need a whole set of them.
I got plenty at the studio.
And as long as I got up to 50s there,
I know I can get a great workout still.
So I mean, this is for when you do your really heavy training.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, honestly, it's funny that,
you know, we're talking about a question like this
and that was something we literally were talking about last night
about only getting those.
You know, sometimes I do better when I,
this is all I have to work with.
Totally.
It versus knowing that there's a bunch of weight
and that does not,
because I want to lift heavy.
It's just, I think it's,
it seems to be more intent around your workouts that way.
Yeah.
And you know what,
when you have to move slow and control like that
because you don't have to be,
the form is gonna be way better.
Way better, less likely to get hurt and injured.
And most people need to throw that type of training in there
every once in a while.
So no, there's a lot of value to this.
Next question is from Chels Fit Diary.
How should someone adjust their macros and caloric intake as they
hit plateaus for weight loss?
How do you know when it's time to make an adjustment before hitting a plateau?
Okay.
So calories you adjust when the weight loss stops. So if you're weight loss stops,
you're not burning any more body fat. Typically, and there's a lot of different ways to do this,
you would just reduce the calories even more. Now, obviously, you can see where this tends to end up.
If you keep doing that, eventually you might get to your goal, but not your stuck at super low calories.
So I tend to stagger this.
I'll cut the calories and I'll throw in a few days
of higher calories.
This tends to stoke the metabolism a little bit
and prevents that what's called metabolic adaptation.
But in plain English, you would reduce the calories
when the weight loss stops.
And if you're trying to gain, you would bump them
when the weight gain stops. As if you're trying to gain, you would bump them when the weight gain stops.
As far as macros are concerned,
this is where I like to have a lot of fun.
You can keep, you know, 2,000 calorie low carb diet
versus a 2,000 calorie high carb diet,
feels very different on the body,
it feels very different in your gut.
This is where you can start to have a lot of fun.
I like to do this with myself sometimes,
not change the calories, change the macros,
see how I feel, and sometimes this actually triggers
more effects in my body.
So that's macros totally different from calories.
You can keep the calories same, adjust the macros,
calories adjust according to how your body responds.
This is actually a really good question,
but it's also a really hard one to answer
without a lot of stuff that I'd wanna ask this person.
And the reason why is because,
if I decide which direction I'm gonna go
with my calories with somebody,
even if your goal is like fat loss, weight loss, right?
That's your main goal.
I might actually go up right here
if you're already really low.
So for example, let's just say,
and you know, I'm helping
somebody with their nutrition right now and she weighs about 145 to 150. And you know,
we were just coming off of a cut not that long ago and we did, you know, she was up to,
I think I had her up to about 25 originally. We hit a plateau. I dropped her down to 22.
She had another plateau. We dropped down to 1800, hit another plateau.
Now I went the other direction.
And the reason why I went the other direction is because now I'm getting to a place where
I want her to be able to eat 2000 plus calories when we get her body to where she wants to
sustain it.
That's a realistic amount of food that she can sustain for a really long time.
If you get in the game of every time you hit a plateau, you drop calories, you drop calories, you drop calories,
eventually you get to this place of eating 1,300 calories
and you feel like you're starving.
And yeah, you might have reached close to your goal
or hit even hit your goal,
but then you're at a place where you're like,
I can't, that's not enough food for me
and you would eventually go back up.
So sometimes when we have a plateau like this,
even with someone who's weight loss,
what I just recently did to this girl is I said,
okay, we're gonna bump your calories. I want to add 250 calories a day and let's go in and we're gonna move your training into a strength phase
or I'll switch the programming that we're currently doing and let our goal now is let's build some strength. Let's build some muscle.
Let's do that for a few weeks and then we'll go back and we'll cut back down on calories and so
it really depends on where this person's metabolism is.
If I would give them the recommendation
of cutting calories or actually potentially increasing calories.
Totally, that's really good information.
As far as protein is concerned,
that's probably the one macro I manipulate the least.
But I still manipulate it.
If I have someone that's high protein consistently for months,
sometimes I'll throw in a low protein day.
And what I notice with that is it almost resensitizes the body
to protein.
Some studies suggest that this actually might happen,
where if you eat a lot of protein all the time,
your body becomes a little less efficient with it.
So it uses more of it for energy, less of it for muscle.
You throw in like a fast or something like that
for a day or two,
throw protein back in your diet,
and all of a sudden the protein becomes more,
you know, for lack of a better term, uh,
anabolic, but the fat and carbs of the ones I'll manipulate most regularly.
Next question is from Connor Flynn.
We often talk a lot about people not having enough mobility,
but what if you have the opposite problem and your joints are actually hyper
mobile? How do you correct this issue?
I always feel like we get this exact same question, like once every about three or four months.
When we're talking about mobility mobility mobility, there's always somebody who's hypermobile
that ends up asking these questions.
You can get in these positions super easy, but you might not feel as stable as we like.
So that's it.
That's it, that's it right there. I wanna change the terminology here.
So when we talk about mobility,
what we're talking about is not just your ability
to get to a full range of motion,
but it's to do their full range of motion
have control, strength and stability within it.
When we talk about mobility, that's what we're referring to.
Yeah, this person thinks it's confusing with flexibility.
Well, no, instability, right?
So when this person has long ranges of motion,
so they're super flexible,
and they also have no strength or stability.
So hyper-mobile in this sense,
what they're communicating is instability
with long ranges of motion.
I've worked with clients like this,
and it's a totally different challenge.
Now, the key with this is to increase your strength
and not go to your end range of motion
because you have such bad stability.
So if I have someone like this
who's got this hypeless long range of motion,
they're unstable, I'm not gonna have them do
ask to grasp squats, even though they could sit down there,
they're so unstable, they're gonna hurt themselves.
I'll actually have this person
will put weight on their back that they can control
and I'll have them stop just below 90 degrees, hold it for a second, and then come back up.
Try and build strength in a shorter range of motion.
Once I feel strong and stable in that range of motion, then I lengthen it, and then I lengthen
it.
Over time, now they're doing their full range of motion.
Yeah, this is where, I mean, I've had some clients like this, some gymnastic clients
that have come in with hypermobility.
What we focus on the most is really being able to access this muscular tension to be able
to really ramp that up with isometrics or with kin stretch type movements where it'll
basically put you in some of these extreme ranges of motion.
But now how do you get out of that? How can you squeeze and connect to the muscle to gather the strength,
to be really stabilize around the joint and feel like you have that strength and control?
And so just gradually sort of taking them through different angles,
with their joints, but making sure that we're really irradiating.
We're getting a lot of this muscle tension to respond,
and then start to load, but really having to make sure
that the joints feel like they're stabilized and secure
before they really go through that.
Now, is this an area where you guys would agree
that you see value in some instability training, right?
Where you have somebody who may be on foam pads
that are going in a dy or dino-disc
and are squatting really deep
on these unstable environment or tools
in order to get them to build a little bit of.
Depends how bad this stability is.
I actually, I worked with this lady
who she had no background in dance,
she had no background in stretching,
she was just born this way,
and she was also very weak.
By the way, strength is the solution to this problem. So she was weak, but super flexible.
And her stability was so bad that if I put her in a deep squat, I mean, I felt like if I pushed her
the wrong way, her joint would have come out of socket, right? So with her, it was short ranges of
motion and strength and stable. We had to be stable because she had such a port. She was so weak
that if we did anything
on an unstable surface, it was like an injury.
She was like a noodle, right?
Like a baby is.
In fact, that's a good example.
Babies have long ranges of motion, no strength.
Like if you ever take a baby's feet,
put it by their head, move it around like super flexible,
obviously no stability.
If a baby tried to support it in your way,
they would obviously injure themselves.
You know, little gumbies.
Yeah, so strength, strength is, get strong.
But don't use your full range of motion.
You don't have enough strength to support
full range of motion and you're asking for problems.
So this is one of the few cases, I would say,
limit your range of motion, get strong
in that short range of motion.
Then when you feel strong in that short range of motion, now extend it like a couple of
points. And it's incrementally.
That's it.
I, you guys mentioned gymnasts.
I actually, so I trained quite a few people like this, but it was all, you know who it was for me,
were like your hardcore yoga people.
Yes.
If yours, I got it quite a few that were, you know, they just love yoga.
They've done yoga their whole life, but never strength trained before.
So they were like super flexible,
but they had no strength and control
when I take them through like a squad
or a linger a basic exercise.
So that's where I found it more common.
Those were the clients that I think ended up having that.
Totally, you see a lot of hip problems
in those types of practitioners.
Now I'll argue that proper yoga,
when you do it properly,
it actually will increase your stability
with the range of emotion.
But the way that sometimes people do yoga here,
especially in America,
is they do these Yin classes
where they sit in these long static stretches
or they get in poses
and they allow their joints to support them
rather than start to relax.
And it's more of a bit cold.
But goal is for them to get to a range of motion
not to increase their strength
throughout the range of motion. Yeah, because if you take a yoga like from a really good instructor, they'll tell you is for them to get to a range of motion not to increase their strength throughout the range.
Yeah, because if you take a yoga,
like from a really good instructor,
they'll tell you, like when you get in a pose,
they'll say, draw your energy in or push out.
What they literally mean is activate your muscles.
Don't just let your joints support you.
Because if you do that, you get flexible.
Yeah.
But then you have no strength
and you end up developing instability.
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