Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 149: Eating Patterns & Pufnstuf
Episode Date: September 16, 2015Is it practical to stay ripped year 'round? What is the best way to keep your body fat in check if you want to have a life and be able to drink and head-butt your friends? In this episode Sal, Adam & ...Justin explore these questions and more.
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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go.
Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
Bada, bada, bada, bada, bada, gummy bass bouncing here and there and everywhere.
Yes.
High adventures up beyond compare.
We're out of the gummy bears. I do
Dude, I feel right. How did you not a sick one? How did you remember that?
Bro, that was a stupid cartoon. You know what?
Memory banks. It's that's terrific. It's a brilliant marketing. Let's make a cartoon about the candy we're selling
It's really more candy. Yeah, Hasbro. Or, uh, who is it?
Harbo.
Harbo.
Harbo.
Yeah.
Hobo.
Bro, that was pretty impressive right there.
I can't believe you pulled that out right?
Hey, bro, I almost did snorks, but I was gonna say that one.
You know what?
They do snorks.
They do not, they don't replay that stuff.
I don't know.
We have seen that one.
No, no, no.
What happens is when they make a shitty cartoon, they don't replay it because it was very shitty.
Yeah.
Nobody's requesting it. Have you guys ever watched old cartoons
and then think to yourself,
this is completely references to jokes,
I mean to drugs, this entire cartoon is in reference to it.
Oh, that's right, old cartoons are awesome,
they're all racist and in my life.
Bro, drug-related, like,
there's inches in, yeah, like mushroom,
like little, like dude, smirfs are little mushroom people.
Bro, I think I've told you, I think I've told you guys about this. I saw those TV show in the 70s called H&R
Puffin stuff. Oh, yeah, that's the name of the show
Puffin stuff and it's this kid that's the magic dragon that blows on a magic pipe
And then he goes to magic land with like dancing mushrooms and I am not making this up and his best friend
And then he goes to Magic Land with like dancing mushrooms and shit. I am not making this up. Then his best friend is a Wonderland. Yeah, funny. Yeah, no, it's funny. I was just watching Dumbo with my kids and there's a there's a scene in Dumbo where basically they just get fucking
Drone. Oh, yeah, it's like that. Like the Dumbo drinks all this alcohol. Yeah, and then all of a sudden you start seeing like little pink
Elephants like Alcohol yeah, and then all of a sudden you start seeing like little pink elephants like
They've dancing around them and everything and they're just like number one I's a kite number one. They're drinking alcohol number two a completely inaccurate description of what happened
You're drunk. Yeah, I know I was like
I was like that when I was open
Budweiser yeah cartoons were awesome back
Don't you think that that's that was their way of trying I, because you think about the way we had commercials back then too.
Like, this is your brain.
This is your brain on drugs.
You know, it was like the scare tactic to scare kids.
Like, so it's like, yeah, but then you watch cartoons and freaking Tom and Jerry are smoking cigarettes.
Yeah, exactly.
But then yeah, you got the the crow that comes in.
He's got this big old cigar Stokey.
But it's like what?
But don't I mean, don't they? They always depict like a character like that like nobody wants to be a crow right nobody wants to be a crow
It's or the or the elephant elephant gets tongue-boggates drunk. He sees all the pink elephants. That's like a scary situation for him
Like I think they always like I don't know
Isn't that the part where all the shit comes on fire to you?
Yes freaking around I and what about like Tom and Jerry or the old cartoons? Demon eyes like American Indians.
All they have to do is cross dress.
And then the other character who's a guy is like,
whoa, you're so hot.
Like that would never fly today.
They could never show a cross dressing cartoon today.
Cause a lot of people would be offended by that.
But Mugs Bunny was hot.
Yeah.
What do you think about that, what's your opinion on that?
Oh, what?
Cross dressing?
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they would smoke Winston cigarettes.
Actually, the Flintstones was sponsored by cigarette companies.
That's so awesome.
Nowadays, they don't act.
It's gangster.
It's not so much that it gets censored.
Is that parents are just freak out.
So it's kind of self-sensoring in terms of the consumer.
It's consumer driven.
Well, it's, you know.
Yeah, they're, I mean, they're manipulating, like,
the, I don't know if there's a subliminal thing there,
but like, there was a lot of sexual things and clouds
and weird shit.
Oh, you tell me what the hidden, like, little hidden dude.
It's all, like, and it was not like, it's bullshit.
Like, it's really, you can find it online.
You can see it.
Dude, did you guys ever, uh,
it's a smart creepy.
You guys are one of the ice cream man.
Of course.
Do you guys ever buy the gum cigarettes?
Oh yeah.
You pop on them in the kettle a little bit.
Oh they got in trouble for that, right?
And like the chewing tobacco, remember big league chew.
Yeah.
It's like your pretend, oh, the number 10 in a year.
We should make some like pop rocks,
like Charlie Sheen pop rocks, you know, and you snorted.
Well that's what the candy was.
That's what that pixie candy was, right?
It was basically sending you up for blow.
Am I right?
I never tried snoring that.
I know a lot of kids eat.
Oh, God, just.
Wait a minute, my brain.
Hold on a second.
Wait a minute.
No, I didn't.
Okay.
Geez.
That would have been...
You like, bro, listen.
Because I was gonna say,
I know you're in the same person,
because I did that.
And the purple one, let me tell you oh
So so what's going on fellas razor blades? How much did would you do this weekend?
I went to golf land got a little crazy golf land with the kids. Yeah, oh
Family we can do know that they have not done anything to golf land since we went
We were good. Yeah, it's the same everything I drive by it looks exactly the same video game.
Roman carpet is the same.
The same stains on the car.
Asteroids.
It's the same.
All the games that we know the games are different, but it's all the same.
There's nothing different.
But we had a lot of fun.
My daughter is so competitive.
It's silly.
I wonder where she gets that from.
I have no idea.
She was hitting.
She'd hit the ball and she basically dragged it to the hole because she couldn't handle
not getting it in.
And then she'd be like, but I got a hole in one.
And I'd be like, no, that's not a hole in one.
Shut up!
And she'd like through the club on the floor,
like cried, and I'm like, this is horrible.
So I had to beat her.
What'd you guys do?
You can't do some line-of-beater interview.
No mercy right there.
I didn't beat my kid.
I was joking.
What did you do this weekend at him?
Because you kind of look like you had a good time.
And my good time, I mean, yeah, he had some pictures of boats
and you get the crap that looks.
I do have a case of the Mondays today.
Yeah, you're all pouting.
No, I'm not. No, totally not.
I just have a headache right now.
I had a headache from teaching, from yelling.
But, you know, what are the, I love to get that.
I don't think I have a brain cancer.
No, no, no, yeah.
Oh, I didn't think about that after.
That would be me.
That would be me.
Man, have a headache.
Why is everything gotta be that?
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
No, I was out at Discovery Bay.
So if you've never been out there before,
it's pretty cool little spot.
But you're a really nice house is out on the water.
So we rented a house out there.
A good buddy of mine.
Do you guys have this?
I don't know if you guys have friends like this.
So I have different circles of friends
for different things that I like to do.
I have a big advantage of people.
No, I was just trying to think.
I was like, what is he using me for?
No, I don't even really like you guys.
We just have to work together.
So, you know, which we manage that pretty well.
No, so, you know, I have my childhood best friends that, you know,
those are the guys that I could go head up for a weekend.
And literally we do nothing but play board games and watch movies
and just sit on the couch and bullshit and tell stories.
Totally can do that.
Then I have other ones.
You play board games? Yeah, bro. Like, you that. Then I have other ones. You play board games. Yeah, bro.
Like you don't play like poker and shit. You play board games. Sorry.
I actually do. I do like board games. What do you what do you play?
Um, so what's in ladders? No, but there is a great great.
You guys play board games at all or is that all right?
No, Boulder dash taboo games like that Dash, Taboo, games like that.
You've ever heard games like that?
Yeah, but I never played with a bunch of dudes.
That's weird.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that's just, I swore to God, I'm not making, I'm not trying to be funny right now.
That is really fucking weird.
No, I get that.
That's like your grown men.
And we're gonna play Boulder Dash.
That's so weird.
Well, see, that's what, if I'm with my wife wife, if I'm with my wife and we're at a party
and there's other couples,
like that's the shit you do, you play boardians, maybe.
Right.
I could imagine right now we're all,
you know, you guys don't play with alcohol.
So this is a perfect example.
Okay, Sal represents,
cause I tell you guys all the time,
you guys both represent very close friends of mine, right?
So Sal represents the buddies that I was with this weekend.
Okay, good time, real fun to be around,
very competitive.
All the stuff he's about to talk shit.
No, no, not at all.
No.
But they did not want to sit down and play no board games.
In fact, one of the girls that were the wives that were there,
she brought it out and they like,
and they like totally manipulated them into playing
and they played for like 10 minutes where like they could not just could not sit still. They're like,
this is lame. I'm out of here. I'm done playing more games. So they're like that for sure.
So they're normal, but I have my, you know, you know, you know, they're not, they're actually
far from normal, very far from normal. But that's just it is some of your, so and Justin
is, is way more similar to my childhood best friend, Jared and Justin, who these are
the guys I'm telling you, like Justin already know that I could pick Justin up and take
him to hang out with those friends where we might just bullshit and pull out the old
video game console and play video games for the day.
We might pull out some board game.
We might play hearts.
We might we might not do anything.
We might just chill and bullshit.
And they're totally content.
We all enjoy each other's company and I have a great time.
Who are your hot tubbing friends with?
My friends that you want to go with the hot tub.
My male friends?
I don't have any girlfriends that I want to go hot tubbing.
I'm right here, bro.
I don't even say my name.
This whole time.
I'm thinking that's a hot tub and invite.
That was, that was.
That was, that was.
I dare you right now just get on your phone and just text your buddies like, hey, what's the go? I'm thinking that's totally an invite. He was in that one. That was, that was. He's in that one.
I dare you right now, just get on your phone
and just text your buddies, like, hey, what's the go?
What's the go?
Hot tab in.
Dude, that's my brother, dude.
My brother will text.
He'll text, I'm on a big group text with all my cousins.
And my brother will be like, hey, what's the come over
tonight, get the hot tub with that with me.
It's kind of weird.
Did you read that over?
OK, you sent it.
OK, OK, wait a second here. So hot tubbing and board games are totally different, It's kind of weird. Did you read that over? Okay, you sent it to KK raising here
So hot tubbing and board games are totally different
Play in some competitive and I like competitive board games are not like a like we don't play really do you bet money?
No, no, it's right you to punch someone if they lose
Yeah, it's bragging rights bragging rights, dude. I beat you. I beat you. I'm being an opaling like head budding right?
Yeah, so my weekend was similar
But it was we played poker. Yeah, little more manly a little more masculine
But I don't know how to play poker by the way. Yeah, I didn't play broken. We ate too much whiskey
You drink a lot of whiskey. Yeah, you know, it's funny. He came back from a weekend where he drank a little bit
Yeah, you came back from weekend where you probably drank a lot. Yeah. You look amazing.
Adam looks horrible.
Oh my God.
We can tell.
My liver is impeccable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, but I got crazy.
What do you mean you got crazy?
I got crazy.
I was hosting it and so I was like, you know, all day,
Saturday, I was like trying to make up.
Because I've been so busy, dude.
I hadn't been able to, it was my turn and like. And I should have hosted it like two, three months ago.
And I just been putting it off because I've been doing
some shit.
And so I was like, I got to make it up to them,
you know, and all that stuff.
And so I was like, you know, trying to put this whole
barbecue thing together and like all this food
and, you know, specific mix and everything in the background.
And like all these like really horrible movies on TV,
like, you know, he-man with Dolph Lunger and all that kind of shit.
We just like put on there to kind of make fun of
as we're like talking.
So we just like, we literally just talk shit.
It's somewhat competitive, but it's more like,
we all just talk shit at each other.
And like, you know, belittle each other and all that fun stuff, right?
And so the thing that guy did that girl got.
It escalated.
Yeah, what do you mean escalated?
Like, I got...
Did you get a fight?
No, I didn't get in a fight.
We just started doing really dumb, dude stuff.
Like, I got to point...
It's a real wall.
Almost, wall.
I do it.
I had like, I had like this drink.
It was filled with that stupid fireball shit. Remember we were talking about that
Yeah, so I had that in my in my refrigerator because my wife was you know drink occasionally and I finished this bottle of crown with my buddy and
So I drank some of that stuff because I was just like ah whatever and then it hit me and it was like the shark eyes came out
And I was just like, what?
It didn't mean me and my buddy, I don't know,
I don't even know what happened,
but we ended up starting like headbutting each other.
What?
And we were just like headbutting.
Like rams.
And like really hard.
Like the next day, this huge like red circle
and like bruise on my forehead.
You could probably still see a little bit of the red there.
And I fucking don't remember any of that. Why have no idea it was so dumb I'm hanging out with Adam
Dude, I'm just saying I was everything was cool up until then and then it was I didn't even play one weekend
I was giving that example is like different times
I was with the other friends that like want to do stuff so we were actually
Wake surfing the whole weekend stuff and oh man I'm just fucked. Did we used to, I remember when, you know,
I, well, I was part of wakeboarding. I would fucking wakeboarding first started. So we started way back.
Shit, I think it was like eighth grade for us when that first came out. And we used to, I remember
this, get out. We lived off the lake. So we were there in on the lake three, four times a week.
And we would get up on the weekends and we would hit the water like before the sun came up. Sun came up. Soon as that sun came up, class water. And the three of us guys
would ride till the sun came down and just rotating turns one after another, another,
another, two. Now you get in the boat. He go out and you're like, whatever, you know,
I'll ride when I feel like it type of deal
I'm finally oh you want to ride you bro. No, no, no, I'm good
I'm just catching these rays right now just relax and you know just sipping on this water
You just get and then finally you're like yeah, yeah, I'll get out alright and you ride and it's like
Maybe a 15 minute ride maybe maybe 30 minutes tops. You're out there riding around and so with that and I'm like
I'm done good. I'm good for the day right there and no more I want to ride no more, but I was so
achy and tired from that's why I feel today was just I didn't even get to lift so I was so excited to come back Monday
I've got Monday Tuesday Wednesday then I fly out to Vegas for Olympia
So you know I really is really hoping to come into Olympia looking like the guys that are on stage but that any fucking happening
So I I'm gonna be looking a lot softer than I expected because I had
back to back weekends where I'm like out of town and we still, you know, we did our usual,
those that are listening right now going like, oh, you could have done this. Okay, listen,
we fucking still went grocery shopping. I still grabbed all kinds of chicken and actually
in ground turkey. Oh, you look fine, bro. We talked about. Yeah. That's, I wasn't looking for fine,
bro. I freaked out insecure and erotic in
emotional. I was looking for looking for a lot better than fine.
It's just you're holding a little water. Yeah. Yeah.
The face. It's just a little.
But I didn't I didn't. If you go to the sun, the
it's going to sound. I'm
just going to play it to the bed. So that's the plan. I'm going to
sauna it for three days and then I drink a detox tea. That's
what I'm going to be doing. Oh, you don't.
It's so funny.
He's like, ah, I'm not gonna look good.
You look fine, dude.
Bro, I'm gonna be out with my peers.
I'm gonna be, so I know you don't care
because you guys don't care about any of this shit.
But I'll be out with all the rest of my peers
and we'll be out in Vegas for Olympia.
So, you know, and I'm gonna,
I want it to be shredded.
Yeah, yeah, I want to be shredded.
I want it to look like I could have hopped on stage.
So, that's all right, though.
You know, at the same time too,
it's all about having balanced in my life. So for me, I want to be shredded. I want to look like I could have hopped on stage. So that's all right though. You know, at the same time too, it's all about having balance in my life.
So for me, I would never have passed up the last two weekends
of things that I'd be out doing.
So I enjoy those things.
But I mean, I think it's important to talk about things
like that because in reality, even somebody who does
what I do at the professional level,
or I get at that crazy of a shredded,
it's impossible if you're going to have like a cool life. So everybody that crazy of a shredded, it's impossible if you're gonna have a cool life.
So everybody that watches these fucking pros,
they're in magazines and they're fucking shredded 24 or seven
around the year, you know,
and all you see on their Instagram is cool as workah.
Yeah, they have a shitty life.
Yeah, just so you guys know, like, that is not me.
I am not that guy.
You see me getting in shape for a show,
and then the rest of you,
you see me maintain myself at a reasonable body fat percentage
because I fucking like to do shit.
Well, there's something to be said about that.
You know, most people would be so happy just to be lean,
like regular lean, not shredded.
And you could totally maintain a regular lean
with a relatively normal life,
not the regular normal American life,
because that includes no activity
and you know, just shit food all the time.
But you know, this is what I like to tell a lot of my clients.
If the only times you ate bad
or celebrations like birthdays and holidays
and stuff like that, you'd be fine.
Oh, totally.
You'd be absolutely fine.
And I think the big problem is when people do that every day,
like every day they eat sugar,
or every week they eat crappy.
Or that's what the problem is.
It's not even that.
Seven days a week, if four of them are not so good
and three of them are good,
that's if you're outweighing the days that are bad
and comparison days are good,
then you're just, you're never gonna get anywhere, you know?
Right.
You go two, three days of perfect eating and then you have a shitty day, two, three days, then a shitty day're just, you're never gonna get anywhere, you know? If you go two, three days of perfect eating,
then you have a shitty day, two, three days,
then a shitty day, like, you're gonna be constantly
trying to climb up that hill,
and it's gonna have a hard time eating.
No, save it, save it for the times
when you're gonna, it's like worth it.
And even then, like I said this weekend,
I said I still brought our clean food, right?
So I didn't wanna do like, I could have easily gone
apes shit and just said, I'm not gonna bring my own food,
I'll just eat whatever's there and what everybody else brings.
And like, no, I can still have some things that are enjoyable
and so with that, but I want at least have my foundation
of things that I need for my body.
So that's funny, yeah, because I mean, even with mine,
like it was all chicken and like lean stuff,
like salad and all that kind of stuff.
It was the, you know, obviously the alcohols were ridiculous,
but you know, that's very rare for me anymore.
Like I had, uh, my poor wife had to go sleep at my parents and take the kids with her.
You know, it was like one of those things like, Hey, thank God.
You gotta get out of this house.
Uh, you don't want the kids to get crazy.
Uh, ramming your friend with your friends.
Yeah.
So very rare.
That's the scariest thing I've ever heard of my life.
Anyway, what do you want to do later?
I'm looking back at our heads together.
I have no idea what even prompted that.
I think it was the like Metallica was on in one
or something we started head banging like did it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it Yeah Something like that really dumb. You know, go ahead. No, you know this
I know the way we always do the shows we have no direction. We have no idea we're doing
Yeah, I was gonna ask you and I know and I always look over at Doug and Doug's always got like once we've been talking for like
15 minutes. Okay guys just confused look on what the fuck are we gonna cover?
You know what he was talking about looking feeling fat too by the way
Well Doug was saying he was feeling kind of fat. So maybe we're all, maybe we're all,
do we have a fat hug?
You don't look fat, Doug.
Well, here's, maybe this is a great topic.
Maybe this is a really good topic to talk about
because I have shared this sometime,
I've shared this pretty much with any of my clients.
So they can relate.
Like everybody thinks, not everybody, my clients,
when someone hires me, they just assume that I'm like this guy
who just eats perfect, always trains.
Like you just, that's great.
In order to look like that,
or be super failing like that,
he must just like live in the gym or whatever.
Like that's not true at all.
You know, and so I like to let them know
that, you know, I do do these things,
and I do have balance.
I'm gonna go out drinking every once in a while.
We'll go have red velvet cake or cinnamon
or things that I live.
I would have noticed how he changed the way he said it.
And then his hand went in his cry.
Yeah.
There's a few things.
There's a few things.
But I don't know about you guys, how you guys do this, but I actually strategically do
that.
So I don't jet, like if I really want something, I don't deprive myself. I don't believe in that. I believe if there's no reason for me to. I just plan for it.
Exactly. And I actually like that better because I think planning for it. It's like
the build up. It's like the four play. You know what I mean? Like I know later I'm
going to eat that that whatever the red velvet kitchen nipples just just hoping exactly
you go into it and you're fucking ready. You're ready to go and
it's over before you know it. Not only that, but I've also found
to talk about food. I've also found that when you do that
for okay, sometimes you talk yourself out of even making the deal.
It's true. So a lot of times like my girl attacks me right.
So here and I communicate throughout the day,
she works all day long, I work all day long.
And she'll send me a message sometime like mid afternoon,
like, hey, what do you feel like dinner?
And I'll let her know, like, oh,
I'll let her know based off of my workout,
what I've consumed, kind of like what I should,
where I should be landing for dinner.
Like should this be kind of a light dinner or can we kind of enjoy ourselves or can we really enjoy ourselves because I've been so low and burn so much earlier in the day, right?
So you know, and she does the same thing too
She's like and sometimes they align and that's kind of how we do this like so sometimes she'll text me and she'll say this and I go
I go back to her well
I can pretty much eat whatever I want because I had my normal breakfast and then my next two meals
I did carb-free and then I did a you know a way shake or something like that right and then I'll be like so
I'm do I need at least 1500 to 2000 calories and you know I'm really low on fat and carbs so I mean
I'm good to go whatever you feel like I'm good to have and she'll be like oh awesome me too I did
this and that and I had a super hard session today. So I feel like picking up this.
So what do you want?
You know, I'll pick up this and then we decide what we're going to eat.
Now other times, maybe one of us is like that and the other one isn't.
And I was all excited because in my head, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to get some blocking
chips today because I haven't had guacamole in chips in a while.
I'm going to have that with dinner or what do I have with that, right?
And then I'll text her and she'll be like, wow, somebody brought this in the office
today and I had this. So she's like, I got to be good. I was sticking just a chicken in
salad for dinner tonight. I'm like, oh, shit, I could have had chips and go on. And then
I'll go, all right, sometimes I'll get it because I've earned it and I can. I want to do
it or sometimes because she's not. And I'm like, yeah, you know, I don't really need.
I can have another night. I'll have have that.
Well, see, for me, I know typically Sunday dinner,
I'm gonna eat whatever's made because,
my family gets together and we'll eat at my mom's house
or my wife'll cook and it's gonna be a legit Italian meal
with three or four courses in your pasta,
or meat or your fish and you're,
and I'm gonna have a good, I'm gonna eat it,
I'm gonna do it because for me,
it's more important to enjoy that Sunday dinner
with my family than it is to be super strict it. Because for me, it's more important to enjoy that Sunday dinner with my family
than it is to be super strict.
Now, of course, if I was getting ready for something
like when I did a photo shoot once,
then I wouldn't be able to do that.
But most people don't give a shit about it.
Most people aren't doing that.
They're not trying to get to 5% body fat.
They just wanna get lean.
Did it all good?
Do you do anything else leading up to that or post that?
Or do you just say it's Sunday
I'm going bananas no matter what I'm usually really you know what's funny
I don't know if you guys are like this, but I'm way better with my diet if I'm busy. Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah, if I'm if I'm at home and I'm just kind of chilling. I'm like oh today's a lazy day
That is the day. That's the day that I that's hard. Oh, yeah, it's bad day. I tend to fast a lot more when I'm like super busy
It's easy. Yeah, it's really yeah, Yeah. So the key is to be busy all the time. This is
just work. Oh, you and that. So now, now how do you handle that? Because I don't feel fat. So I had to
along. I mean, when the first and Justin remembers this, when the first like fitness tools came out,
it was body bug back then. And I first started wearing these wearables. And
this is why I'm a huge advocate. So if you're a listener and you don't own a wearable,
I'm a huge fan of them because it's going to teach you so much about your your body
and like how you move. And it's amazing because even somebody like myself who's a personal
trainer can break it all down mathematically for myself. In my head, I'm almost certain
that this day, this day, oh, I'm good, I'm good. And then I check it. I myself. In my head, I'm almost certain that this day,
this day, oh, I'm good, I'm good.
And then I check it, I go, oh, wow.
I guess I didn't move as much as I thought I did
because in my head, Sunday I got up
and I got a hard leg workout and I'm like, oh, hell yeah.
But then you did nothing, man.
Then I didn't do shit all day.
Then I came home and watched football
and relax and visited with friends and family.
And it ends up being a very sedentary day.
And guess what?
Sometimes I don't get up and hit late day.
Sometimes I just say, oh, I'm gonna just be relaxed today,
which is fine, I'm not saying don't do that.
But those also tend to be the days
that we over consume and we overeat,
which was huge, so detrimental to me staying in shape
with Saturday and Sunday.
Saturday and Sunday, I used to be Monday through Friday,
dialed, Monday through Friday, dialed.
Monday through Friday, perfect meals,
train super hard, super active, lots of clients.
Saturday, I might get up and train a couple clients,
and then the rest of the day I'm taking off,
I'm gonna eat what I want.
Well, it could also work out,
because it doesn't have to be on that exact day.
Like, for example, I tend to eat more than night
before my hard workouts, not the day before my hard workouts,
not the day of my hard workouts, does that make sense?
So Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays are my,
usually my heaviest, hardest workouts.
Mondays are usually, well, they can be hit or miss
if I went to bed real late Sunday or whatever,
my workout's not very good,
but if I go to bed on time,
my Monday workouts usually good because Sunday ate a lot.
And then Monday's Wednesday's and Friday's
the days I workout, those are the days
I typically don't eat as much.
I know it sounds opposite,
but I find that for myself,
if I eat good the night before,
then I have a great workout.
The day of, it doesn't necessarily work as well.
And if I eat, look, if I eat,
I big breakfast the day of my heavy workout
and have like a lot of carbs and stuff like that,
I'm tired.
Carbs put me to sleep. Oh yeah, it makes me lethargic for sure. I have big breakfast the day of my heavy workout and have like a lot of carbs and stuff like that. I'm tired. Yeah.
Carbs put me to sleep.
Oh yeah.
It makes me lethargic for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, I could have eggs and bacon and be fine.
But you throw in some oatmeal or some cereal or whatever and I want to go to night night.
Yeah.
I've noticed that same thing and I'm sure it falls along the carb loading principle on
some level, you know.
The insulin drop and crash and all that stuff.
Well, Justin, you talked, I also want to talk about how I use the fast.
How do you use the fast?
You said you got to mention how do you use your
intermittent fast throughout the week?
Yeah.
Yeah, so I'll do it like, kind of like so.
I was mentioning more of my trigger session days,
like a Tuesday, Thursday, or sometimes on the weekend.
So especially Sundays, I tend to fast more on Sundays,
just because like Saturday is my day for biblical reasons.
Yeah.
No.
I probably should.
Bring my spirit level up another couple of hundred degrees.
How do you use it?
How do you use the internet fast lately?
I don't eat until after my workout. So I don't eat until after my workout.
So I don't eat until one or two.
If I'm really, really dieting,
then I don't eat food until that night.
And I just have a protein shake post workout.
But lately, when I've been doing,
I don't know if you guys saw my post on Instagram today.
Of course you have.
You look at all my posts.
Just kidding. You tag us on Instagram today. Of course you have. You look at all my posts. Just kidding.
You tag as an every post.
Oh yeah.
I actually got my quad.
Another notice.
I haven't been on to it.
So I was doing some more reading on cholesterol,
dietary cholesterol.
And you guys know my opinion on that
and what some of the science is saying
and how increasing dietary cholesterol
is actually a good athletic performance enhancer.
Also having cholesterol post workout,
the body's primed to use that cholesterol
for things like repairing and rebuilding,
and they're theorizing that having some cholesterol
like an hour or two after your workout,
so you have your normal protein, carb shake,
or whatever post workout right away,
wait about 30 minutes to an hour,
and then eat some cholesterol,
like some egg yolks, or something like that.
That's crazy.
Yeah, so I started doing that.
Dude, and explain again, like,
I remember you talking about how it had like
a protective barrier on the cell, right?
Like it provided like this extra lead.
Well, it just like an immune...
Well, cholesterol's are just the,
they're like the building block for all your hormones
and for, they're important for cell integrity.
Right.
Is what it is.
So you, you know, it's essential that you have them.
Your body produces most of your cholesterol,
but eating more of it, if you're a healthy individual,
will make you, for many times, make you stronger.
They did, I just read a study recently where they should,
they had three groups of people, so actually
well-made study.
And the people who were older, I think they were 50 or 50 to 65, was the age group.
And they had one group consume regular diet, the next group consume 400 milligrams of
cholesterol a day, and the third group consume 800 milligrams of cholesterol a day.
Here's the kicker.
They all ate the same calories.
So nobody ate more than the other.
The 800 milligram a day,
which by the way,
which by the way, that's a lot of cholesterol.
800 milligrams is more than,
sounds like a lot.
Yeah, that's like six eggs, seven eggs,
I'm like that, right?
So it's a lot.
And they had a 245% more strength gains than the other groups. Here's a thing though,
they didn't gain any more weight, but that's because again, the calories were the same.
Is this everyday or did they do it on a daily? No, daily. Okay, daily. And there's, but
their strength went up considerably. And that again points to the neuromuscular benefits,
the how it helps the, you know, the neuromuscular system fire and fire strongly. And that again points to the neuromuscular benefits, the how it helps the,
you know, the neuromuscular system fire and fire strongly. And that's the first thing I noticed.
When I increased my diuretic cholesterol, I'm stronger. I heard something else about serotonin
levels. Like not from not familiar yet. From cholesterol. Yeah, they're saying something about how it
affected the serotonin levels and how. I don't know, but I do know that too low cholesterol
is the brain doesn't function very well.
And so perhaps serotonin production might drop or whatnot.
Well, I don't feel like that's that much.
If I have my standard breakfasts, four eggs
and a six ounce steak,
I mean, I'm probably cracking pretty damn close to that,
milligrams of cholesterol just from that meal.
Well, if you exercise a lot,
you probably would want more.
Yeah, well, that's just one meal, those what I'm saying.
That's my first meal.
Arresting my meals, I'm getting cholesterol still in them too.
Yeah, how much, what is it,
oh, it's like 186 milligrams of cholesterol,
I think they say in a normal egg, right?
So if you have four, you're getting close,
you're getting about six or 700.
Most people don't eat that much per day.
And most people eat less because it'd been told for so long.
Well, don't you think it's funny?
Back in the day, the bodybuilder used to crash like 12,
it doesn't, like it doesn't answer.
That was the prescription.
Yeah.
The prescription to build muscle back in the day
was lots of heavy cream,. Cream and meat, liver.
Liver was a huge thing.
And liver is one of the highest.
Right, we haven't even talked for a long time about that
as far as like eating other types of like proteins
as far as like collagen and all that stuff is concerned, right?
Yeah, well, organ, well, organ meat.
When we talk about humans evolving to eat meat
and how it's good for us, we did evolve eating meat, but we did evolve eating just the choice cuts of meat.
Right. You know, humans ate a lot of, you know, organ meat, all that stuff. And in primitive
cultures, the organ meats are the most prized. Those are the most valuable of the meats. And
they're highest in nutrients. Which is funny because that's how you think it should be sold, right?
It should be sold based off of what is, which maybe be the future.
No, we sell it on taste.
Because you eat heart or liver and right now I guarantee people are listening and they're
gagging because they don't, you know, like, I don't you believe, I believe this.
And because I think we've seen the pendulum swing so far one way and I feel like it's slowly
swinging back the other way.
I believe a day, whether it be an our time
or our children's time or grandchildren's time,
where, you know, eating for, eating for like taste
and like, oh, what you love to eat will be so such a thing
at the past.
Like people, the way people are disgusted
with someone's smokes of cigarette.
I think like that's how it'll become.
You think of the trend we're going that direction?
I think the trend will go in that direction
where you look at someone's play, like, oh my god. I think like that's how it'll become. You think of the trend we're going that direction? I think the trend will go in that direction where you look at someone's play like,
oh my god.
I don't know.
There's way too many like horny people out there for food.
Well, you know what?
This is why it's the reason why it's because the pinnacle
is not finished going that way.
What do we, what we just, it's only been what?
Less than 10 years that could.
He's right.
Adam's got a point because this has been obesity epidemic
relatively.
It is fairly true.
It's saying it's going to implode in the epidemic. Yes, relatively. It is fairly true.
So what you're saying is going to implode in the world.
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be a way.
When we start seeing, first we start seeing people live longer than they have ever
lived because of certain things that we're finding out science and stuff like that.
Now you're going to start seeing it go in the other direction.
Because of obesity.
Because of obesity.
And then it'll keep going.
And then finally at one time, everyone will wake the fuck up.
Everybody will be like, well, we're all trying to be like, centenarians or...
Centarians.
Centarians, is that it?
I'm a centaur.
Exactly, I was thinking, is that a minitarium?
So here's what I think,
because the last, you know, hundred years,
or the 1900s or whatnot,
they called what do they call it,
the century of physics.
And they're calling this next century,
the century of biology, because we're learning this next century, the century of biology,
because we're learning things about the body on such a deep level.
We're making, we're gonna be making incredible breakthroughs.
I think, I don't know, Adam, I think obesity might be cured with medicine.
Yeah, I know, that's a scary part. Some kind of nano technology.
I think medicine, I think they might figure it out with just medicine to the point where you eat the fuck you want
Well, that's the matrix and then you take this you know take this uphill
That's the matrix capitalism just your matrix version thinks that way everything the creator version of me thinks that
There is no formula like that. I don't believe it. I don't believe that we'll be able to count or something
I don't think we were I don't think we were made to to eat shit
That's not real and that's fake and this stuff
I think because of science
We've made it to where we can consume it and it's science and this stuff. I think because of science, we've made it
to where we can consume it and it's science is fucking us
and now we're having all these issues
because oh, we found out that we could consume this
and it doesn't kill us instantly
but oh no, it just kills us over time slowly.
Well, let's give science some credit.
So science modified everything so we haven't had a famine.
Thank you.
Science, let's give them some credit now.
Yeah, okay, because I think they get a bad rap.
People don't starve like they used to.
People don't die of foodborne illness like they used to.
People don't get, you know, scurvy from vitamin C
deficiencies and stuff like that.
So we've gotten rid of big,
we've got, yeah, we've gotten rid of the big rock problems,
the big boulders.
And now we left with these kind of pebbles,
these kind of unintended consequences.
Like obesity, really obesity is an unintended consequence
of solving starvation.
I mean, it really is.
Well, we went from one extreme to the other.
Yeah. So what happens when the extreme of obesity
equals what famines were fucking 400 years ago.
We turn ourselves in the robots. You know what I'm saying? Like we I mean it's
it. Well this is where I it's math. I believe that we'll eventually get to the point where we find
out that we perform so much better. We live such health wise. We live so much longer. I mean,
we're only 10 using 10% of our fucking brain. There's so many so much.
Actually, that's not it's not what is it? No, there's no, there's no, there's no percentage
of it. But you know what that term came that that that terminology came from in light.
Is that our brain? We don't use it to its full capacity, but the number 10%, I'll use
your whole brain. Like if I cut 90% of your brain off,
you would not be a lot of it.
Well, we use 10% of its ability.
They say that we can use quite a bit.
You know, you ever see like people with,
what are they called, savants?
Where they just got these ridiculous abilities.
There was one guy I saw on TV that remembered.
But it usually takes over like a couple other processes
in the brain. Yeah, they're like socially asked. So they're just like, yeah, But it usually takes over like a couple other processes in the brain.
Yeah, they're like socially attached.
So they're just like, yeah, it totally like takes over like the other side of the hemisphere.
Yeah, crazy stuff.
Well, I don't, and that's where I don't you feel like right now is what it is.
We haven't figured that out.
We haven't figured out the ability to tap into all of it.
It's like you're, if you're super talented and artistic, you'll like in social skills.
Well, so you're a super smart and mathematics,
you have a hard time reading a book.
So here's what I think with the medicine,
you know, working on obesity,
not necessarily that you take a pill and get skinny,
but maybe you take a pill and it changes how you like foods.
You know, like I take this pill and now all of a sudden,
I just want you to chicken breast.
Oh, that would be awesome.
You take a pill and then it makes chicken breast. It's like mint chip ice cream. Yeah
So don't know that would be weird that would be cool, bro
Really chip ice cream. It's chewy. I like chicken. Yeah, remember the pills
But you do think differently bros making the brain fire
Who knows man? We'll be out of a job. It's a weird. Nobody will need to hire a trainer anymore.
As he gets why I disagree.
They're gonna genetically engineer their kids.
Everyone's gonna have awesome genetics.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
That would fuck that eight out.
That eight, that eight.
Dude, yes it will.
We're gonna modify our kids.
Yes.
I guarantee it.
I'm ready.
There's already a selective process to buy eggs and get super athletes
Giz can I say Giz? Yeah, can you say Giz on this rate? No?
Like they buy it like people buy like this is some genetic you know specimen and like it costs ex an
Exorbit amount more money to buy it and people parents are already doing this. Yeah, dude Shaqilla Neal
Yeah, nut must be so expensive
How much would you buy a cup of that? I mean you really got to be committed to the game of basketball
I'll tell you that so they're okay
We'll back back me up here because I feel like I somehow I got confused like you could get it for free eggs
It's just a kilo Neal so you're telling me that are you just referring to a sperm bake and people are going down and buy them people will spend a lot of money on
Yeah, so your so your your giz might be worth more see because you're some market tall good looking whatever right
So so your Jesus worth more. It's like a fucking horse, right?
Like they pay a lot of money for the stud horse
They would pay a lot of money for the stud dude. Yeah
stud horse, they would pay a lot of money for the stud dude. Yeah.
Parents are crazy about what I'm doing.
The fuck am I doing this radio show for?
The dude of all that I do is gizzin' a cup and I can make a living.
What am I doing here?
Bro, theoretically, you could have been a billionaire by now.
You know how much of that stuff you wasted.
Today alone, you could have made five grand.
I mean, I'm starting today.
Remember the day right now today.
I'm saving it.
I started saving it.
Ah, why?
In fact, I'm going to use the studio refrigerator to keep it in.
So just make sure I'll label the cup so you guys do.
But I'm not putting more milk in there.
Guys, it's happy. I'll get taste weird.
Yeah.
On the cups will say future shafers.
Shafers swimmers.
Shafers swimmers. Don't drink the shafers swimmers's a shaper. Shaper swimmers. Shaper swimmers.
Don't drink the shaper swimmers, Doug.
White gold.
Tapioca.
That's so bad.
That's pretty gross.
That is disgusting.
What do we talk about?
We were talking about fasting.
And you guys, you guys, you went left with the fucking cholesterol
talk because you didn't even ask me how I do fasting.
Oh, yeah, I didn't.
Oh, shit.
Poor Adam. He was trying to get us to ask him.
So he asked us for a few.
He was asking us.
And then he wanted us to ask him.
You want to reciprocate.
I just want to point out to the listener,
so he don't reciprocate.
Anyway, let's just talk me.
This is what I'm just kidding.
Adam, I know.
How do you actually win?
This is why the point out to listeners right now,
this is why I talk so fucking much
because if I don't,
these motherfuckers won't ask me anything.
So I just had to interject myself like,
hey guys, this is how I do things.
Stay so, but seriously, I wanna know how you fast.
Yeah.
You know, I do it, I don't like to do it very much.
I asked you for no reason. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no It's like a Justin story. All right. Moving along now. Excellent. Thanks for asking me guys.
I don't like to do it.
I don't do it.
That's all I wanted to say.
That's it.
That's all I wanted to say.
No, no, no, I just use it differently because what I mean by that is I don't like to
fast that often because I like food.
Every once in a while, I'll do with Justin and saying we're all stretch my meals out,
which is more like sales,
which in our intermittent fasting guide, they talk about how they fast and how I fast.
And I do utilize the same way you guys do every once in a while.
But more consistently, I have to admit that I use it to counter something I'm about
to go do or something that I just did.
So like you fast before you know you're about to eat a bunch.
Yes. Gotcha.
So you know, if it's like, for example, Katrina and I both did this before we headed out to
Discovery Bay, we knew we were going to head out there Friday afternoon, arrive Friday
night, have dinner probably out somewhere.
So all of Friday, we fasted.
So we fasted leading up to that meal.
That way when we sit down in a restaurant
I decided that this big steak and make potato and dessert maybe even and a drink whatever. I'm not stressing
I'm freaking 3000 4000 calories behind
My daily need anyway, so it's not it's just a race to hit that number
Dude, you know how embarrassed that was you guys ever try to make a joke You just reminded me of You guys ever try to make a joke.
You just reminded me of something.
You ever try to make a joke
because you think it's gonna be funny
and then you realize that was not a funny joke.
Oh, to be saying.
All the time.
I did this to the day we were at the orange theory event.
The one that I hear.
That was at the prune yard in the camel.
Whatever you do.
What do I have to go back and fucking backtrack for you?
So one of the somebody, who was it that asked me?
The really muscular dude, he also boxes.
Dude, you got to read your crowd, bro.
What's his name?
He's a winning instructor.
His name slipped my mind.
Oh, Daniel.
There you go.
So he comes up to a huge mind pump.
Yeah, I know.
No, no, no, no.
He's the real fit looking guy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So he comes up to me.
So they had the tacos.
They're the free tacos or whatever.
So I'm eating the tacos. And he's like, oh, he's just tacos, they're the free tacos or whatever. So I'm eating the tacos and he's like,
oh, he's just being, you know, making fun or whatever.
He's like, dude, too many carbs or something like that.
And there's like four people around.
And so I'm like, I'm gonna say something funny.
Oh, God.
So I'm like, oh, don't worry, I'm gonna make myself
throw up later.
And like joking, I thought it would be funny.
That is funny.
It is, but there's like women and stuff looking at me.
No, we're not fit to see that. You could get away with that there. Yeah, man. It is, but there's like women and stuff looking at me. No, we're gonna fit this event.
You can get away with that there.
I'm making a belimio joke.
That's not funny.
That's kind of fucked up.
No, I mean, I guess you're talking.
Rann, you know your crowd, right?
Yeah, you know what?
And that's the other thing too.
There's not all mind-pump people.
That's the thing.
When I run into people who listen to mind-pump,
my level of filters go way off. Yeah, I'm like, oh, you already listened to the show, so I'm just gonna people. That's the thing. When I run into people who listen to mind pump, my level of filters go way off.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, you already listened to the show.
So I'm just gonna get it out.
You already know how to program.
But then like, like, it's talking about that guy.
Like, I found out not everybody likes the,
the comedy parts of our show.
Yeah.
They just want to get right to the intellectual,
you know, historical, you know, information.
Yeah, but then someone else told us.
But then somebody else just likes the,
Adam, the bullshit.
Just like Adam.
Just like, yeah, just like Adam.
Yeah, I don't like it when you guys talk.
I like it when Adam talks.
I just want to.
I'm like, oh, well, go fuck yourself.
Boom.
You know what?
I think that's the juggle, right?
We can't have over a piece.
Everybody 100% I think it's a little bit mixed with what I can say though.
And I look forward to the day that this happens.
I look forward the day that we get to do these live and they're not recorded.
And it's just see the reaction of everybody.
Well, yeah, and in front of people,
they'll shut me out.
Yeah, like almost like a little shit like it'll get so much worse.
You'll find people and like those are my people over there.
Yeah, no, Adam will have people like right in the front row. We'll start competing. You'll find people. I like those are my people over there. Yeah, I don't have people like right in the front row.
We'll start competing. It'll get so much worse.
Yeah, well, it'll devolve.
What I think will happen is that the filters
will really come off. I know if it's not recorded and it's live,
it's like, we don't have to worry about going back.
I don't know.
I'll just pretend I'm erasing what I just said.
Yeah, pretty sure we give Doug it all, sir.
I'm pretty sure we would.
It's getting one right now, poor fella.
Yeah.
Where do we go from here?
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