Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1521: How a Limited Range of Motion Slows Muscle Gain, Ways to Distinguish Between Being Sore or Injured, the Must-Haves for Longevity & Health & More
Episode Date: March 31, 2021In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about a limited range of motion inhibiting gains, how to know if you’re sore or if you have a small injury, the top 5 m...ust-haves for longevity and health, and whether the body can adapt to NEAT. Mind Pump workout and diet updates. (4:11) Why fish oil is one of the most effective recovery supplements. (15:47) The fascinating story behind the man who built The Sharper Image. (20:45) Adam is a BIG Formula 1 guy. (28:37) Mind Pump Recommends, Minari on Prime Video. (35:48) The Andrews unplug at the beach. (36:54) Playing the game with Bay Area housing prices. (40:56) How Ned’s newest product Mello is blowing the guy's minds! (46:47) #Quah question #1 – Can limited flexibility or range of motion inhibit gains? (51:33) #Quah question #2 – After doing deadlifts, how to know if you’re sore or if you have a small injury? (56:35) #Quah question #3 – What are the top 5 must-haves for longevity and health? (1:00:02) #Quah question #4 – Can my body adapt to NEAT in the same way it would to cardio? (1:07:56) Related Links/Products Mentioned March Specials: Get in Shape for Summer! MAPS HIIT, MAPS Spilt, and the Bikini Bundle all half off! – Promo code “SPRINGBREAK” at checkout How Phasing Your Workouts Leads to Consistent Plateau Free Workouts – Mind Pump Blog The effect of fish oil supplementation on the promotion and preservation of lean body mass, strength, and recovery from physiological stress in young, healthy adults: a systematic review What to know about fish oil benefits for bodybuilding Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** How one man built The Sharper Image into the world’s wackiest gadget store b8ta | Santana Row Formula 1: Drive to Survive | Netflix Official Site The Price Of Gold - ESPN Films: 30 for 30 Watch Minari | Prime Video - amazon.com Sanctuary Beach Resort | Monterey Bay, CA Hotel on The Beach Real Estate Riches: How to Become Rich Using Your Banker's Money (Rich Dad's Advisors) Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! How to Fix “Low Back” Pain (INSTANTLY!) | Mind Pump TV Build Your Hamstrings- How to Properly do Good Mornings The BEST Side Butt Exercise! (SUMO DEADLIFT) Sore muscles…what does it mean? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1355: Five Steps To Live To 100 NEAT vs. Cardio for Maximum Calorie Burn – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness) Instagram Arthur Brooks (@arthurcbrooks) Instagram
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Okay, in today's episode, we answered questions that were asked by our audience.
Four of them.
And they're usually fitness and health related.
But the way we open the episode is with an intro portion.
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We're talking about our workouts.
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We got to the fitness questions.
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The first question is, can limited flexibility arrange a motion in a habit, muscle gains,
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And it's teacher time
Shit, you know what's my favorite time with a week. That's extra aggressive today. You was gripping that
Whoo, got light headed for that one.
Yeah.
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Alright, Adam. Calling me out today.
What?
Because I come in and I'm like, I'm in bodybuilder mode.
He's like, really?
Yeah.
Why do you have so much weight on the bar on your deadlift?
Yeah.
He's a bodybuilder, don't you see, goals?
Bodybuilder, deadlift.
Yeah, he's over there doing a different... He's over there pulling like five plusbuilder don't do seagulls. It's a bodybuilder deadlift.
Yeah, he's over there doing a different,
he's over there pulling like five plus.
I don't even know how much it was on there.
It looked like a lot,
looked like five, 50 or more.
And I'm bodybuilding.
You know what I said that?
First of all, most bodybuilders don't.
I'm the way down.
Most bodybuilders don't even deadlift.
The ones that do deadlift are not doing seagulls.
You know what?
Okay, so here's what I mean when I say that.
Because my, my,
here's how my workouts change
when I'm in bodybuilder mode, right?
Besides deadlifts,
I tend to focus more on feel
and I'm not as strong.
So I, I have to switch my mentality
because otherwise it starts to mess with me.
But it's mainly diet, dude.
My workouts change a little bit,
but it's mainly diet and this weekend, the diet,
I don't know if I'm gonna let you get away with it.
I don't know,
I'm gonna let you get away with calling
that bodybuilder mode, bro. Just cause you you get away with calling that bodybuilder, bro.
Just cause you started to kick calories.
My bodybuilder, bro.
I find me cutting bones.
How about that?
Yeah, cause I cut calories way down, way down.
And I just-
Where's everybody?
Okay, so where's everybody at weight wise?
Cause we weighed in that the vlog, right?
When we first started.
And I was 235, you were-
I was 215 or 216?... I was two, 15 or two, 16?
Two, 15, two, 16, yeah.
Two, 27.
Yeah, you were in the middle.
So where's everybody at now to compare it?
Well, so trip off this, right?
So, you haven't weighed myself.
You haven't?
You got fat or them?
I might do.
I don't want to look.
We should make him go right now, I think.
Go away your ass, man.
No, so you know, okay, so...
I probably got a little huskier. A little bit. I don't know, man, that butt video him go right now, I think. I think I should go away or ask him now. No, so you know, okay, so. I probably got a little husky here.
A little bit.
I don't know, man, that butt video we had
with the bar rolling over the butt.
It didn't even make it over your hamstrings.
Yeah.
Yeah, just bounce right back.
So no, I was really motivated because my gut starts
to act up with too many calories and carbohydrate.
I think like you Adam, except you feel like aching.
Yeah.
Where you start to cut calories.
For me, it's my gut health.
So I cut my carbs way down.
Holy cow, do I drop water?
Like crazy.
I must hold on to so much water from eating carbohydrates.
So my weight went 216 down to 208.
Okay.
And like a week.
So you're down eight.
Wait, yeah, wait down, how about you?
Yeah, I'm about 10 down.
So I weighed, uh, day before yesterday, I weighed it to 25.
So when I was, what did I say?
I was 235 or 236.
Oh, okay.
So I'm down 10, 11 pounds right around there.
Mostly water, of course, right?
So it's, and I've leaned out a little bit.
Now what are you doing with the diet?
Just cutting down.
Well, you remember that episode not long ago,
I shared how I did that week of really, really low calorie.
That dropped the initial.
And then I stayed pretty low most of the week.
I did have a high Cal day yesterday.
I hadn't had like a, and I wanted like a real good refeed.
And the way I based it off with,
we were talking off air last week when we were all working out.
And the workouts is what is always tough for me.
When I, well, that's not the only thing that's tough.
There's two things that are really tough for me
when cutting calories is the significant drop in strength.
I noticed, and some people are differently.
Not everybody's like this.
Some people can reduce their calories
and they see a little bit of a strength difference,
not a big difference.
I see a significant difference.
Like, I am a lot weaker low-cal than I am
when I'm completely fed.
And then the other thing is is I'm not filled in.
So, I have this like, all my clothes
are fitting kind of loose.
And so, even though I'm leaner and getting in better shape,
psychologically it always messes with,
it pulls out the skinny kid,
in security that I've always had.
So I always have to have this self-talk of like,
it's what you're fine, you're good., now do you have any mental games you play with yourself
to get yourself in the right state of mind?
Because, sure, I wear smaller shirts like you.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, hold on, really?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So you're saying shirt.
Oh no, if I have, I have like,
you have to see the definition.
Yeah, I got to close it full,
Katrina makes fun of me on the side.
You're skinny clothes? Yeah, I do. So I have. Katrina makes fun of me on time. Can you close? Yeah, I do.
I have like, so I have, I have like all kind of all phases,
especially when I was competing, you know,
there obviously I fluctuated weight a ton during those times.
So, and I haven't thrown those clothes out
because I can manipulate my weight really 20 to 30 pounds
and be all different versions of myself,
meaning I can be lean at the highest weight,
lean at the lowest weight and vice versa, right?
So I have like sections of t-shirts that,
you know, I'm like really big and jacked and filled out,
like I can wear these, you know, triple X
and kind of really big, big double X type shirts.
And then I have like, you know,
when I'm feeling really small,
so that I'll wear like my large lean extra large type of
tears.
When do you pull out the stringers?
No, I don't know if I still have any.
I think the last-
For your nipple pokes out the side.
Yeah.
Just goes down there.
I haven't-
Right, I said Fred Messcherts.
I gotta feel this.
I have to be shredded to where those are.
Just mid-drifts.
That's what I do.
Yeah, when I was competing, I was definitely into that.
But part of that, honestly, it was, you know, when you're critiquing your physique,
like I never wore stringers until competing.
I can never did that.
I was always a guy.
I actually used to be, you know,
when I came up with these guys lifting,
they were big on like staying covered up and layers.
You know, you were the triple X shirts and big sweaters.
What did everybody see with that? Yeah, you know, so you were all undercover. You know, you only got to see shirts and big swabs. Do everybody see what they're doing?
Yeah, you know, so you were all undercover. You know, you only get to see me if you went
to the beach or something or out outside of the gym. So I never really wore the stringers
and wife beaters and tank top stuff until I got into competing when I'm like, and I'm
definitely looking at myself the entire time because I'm judging my physique, like,
where I need to work on. And so for me, that's the only time that really existed.
And since I'm obviously not competing or in the or near that kind of shape, I don't rock.
Yeah, I got to do the, I got to do, I have to see what's going on.
Otherwise, I just focus on the weight and I'm not a strong.
And then I'm like, all right, I'm going to go eat some french fries, get some of the strength back.
How about you, Justin? Do you, do you change your clothes?
I don't really pull some of the strength back. How about you, Justin? Do you change your clothes? As you're...
I don't really pull a lot of thought into that.
I don't know.
Although I'll give you, like,
I have this one shirt that's a long sleeve shirt.
And I don't know, well, obviously I know why,
because it's tighter, like, in certain specific spots
in my arms where it, like, shows the definition,
and I'm always like, like, it's my power shirt.
You know, like, but that's it.
Like, I don't, I didn't, like, figure that out until just recently. Like, oh, I'm always like, like it's my power shirt. You know, but that's it.
I didn't figure that out until just recently.
Like, oh, I could buy more of these kinds of shirts
to kind of show this work off,
but it's just like, oh, this one's cool and I put it on.
Just in changes things up based off of like,
you know, I always notice he switches his workouts
based off of like, if he hasn't been doing rotational stuff
or he hasn't been dragging stuff.
Yeah, he has the healthiest approach.
I would say.
Yeah, I just, yeah, I don't, I don't,
I have a different perspective, you know,
but again, like that's why it's good to like intermingle
and try and like focus on like getting muscle definition again.
Like I'm actually, I want to do that.
So that's like something I'm trying to focus on.
I, you know, I like to think that I'm more like just in this area now. Like that's, like
my workouts right now currently reflect like how I feel. Like I'm not, I'm not pushing
weight really hard. I'm not really focused on, you know, building an aesthetic physique
right now. It's, I've got right now. I've got the golfers elbow going on right now. So
I got joint and I got elbow hips.
There's a suck when you get golfers elbow, but you don't go. Yeah right now. So I got joint and I got elbow hips up. Is this the suck when you get golfers elbow?
It don't go.
Yeah, yeah.
So I have some.
And you know, it flared up after the first day of like heavy.
I did a basketball ankle.
Yeah.
First day after heavy deadlifting and it both
definitely felt it.
Same thing going with I went really heavy squats
a couple of weeks ago.
And then my, so you know, as soon as my body
starts talking to me like that, I can shut it down.
I can shut down the meat head side of me
and get more into functional training.
Well, we talk a lot about trainers, obviously,
on the show because we were all trainers
for most of our careers.
But this is one of the reasons why I always recommend,
because we get the question, right?
Should trainers be fit?
Should they be super into exercise and nutrition?
And from a visual standpoint,
yes, there's some marketing value.
I could see that.
Obviously, it's gonna be harder to get people higher you
if you don't look like you work out,
but here's the real value.
You know, I think you have to experience
a lot of the mental states that your clients may experience
so that you can communicate to a better
and be more effective.
And one of them is this.
Here's one of the main reasons why I've always advocated,
and you guys do the same,
with phasing your workouts versus,
instead of doing like some,
Mondays are high reps and Wednesdays are low reps
and mixing it all up,
the one of the reasons why I recommend phasing,
it's same reason why,
like what we're talking about now.
There's a mental state that goes along
with training heavy, there's a mental state that goes along with training heavy,
there's a mental state that goes along
with working on mobility,
there's a mental state that goes on with bodybuilding,
and you have to switch gears,
get in that mental state,
otherwise it gets very challenging.
If I'm in a strength, mental state,
good luck trying to get me to do mobility appropriately.
It's just, it's so much harder.
I have to switch gears and then stay there
and I'm much more effective in that phase.
It's not just that.
There's also this huge individual variance
between everybody that, you know,
it's good to see what serves your body best, you know?
And so if you're all, if you're kind of like,
throwing everything at your body all the time
or it's like, I got high rep, low rep, heavy weight,
lightweight, I've got super setting, I've got long rest periods, I've got like a high rep, low rep, heavy weight, lightweight,
I've got super setting, I've got long rest periods,
I've got powerlifting type stuff, I've got cataball work,
I've got mobility stuff and you kind of like throw it all
in your routine, it's really hard to measure
what's really helping you specifically the most
where you're currently at in your life.
And so that's the reason why I find the most valuable.
Of course, the research and studies supported.
It's one of the, if not the best way to train is to do that.
But I really think a lot of it's the psychological part.
The studies talk about the physiological part.
That's beneficial, which we could talk all day long.
We could debate that.
Right.
And there's camps that might debate, you know, changing it.
And it's really close, right?
The studies show that if you do change things up every single day, it's really close to somebody who phases their workouts,
not much of a difference. But that's not the reason why I think it's so important. I think the
psychological part is what's really important because a lot of people don't know what's really
working in their routine. And so being consistent with a phase or a modality, a way of training
for a long enough period of time, you know, four to six weeks,
gives you like some really good feedback
to then go back to the drawing table.
Think about how long did it take you guys to get a client.
Let's just, I'll create a fictitious client here.
How long would it take you to get a woman
who wants to burn body fat to get into the build strength,
build muscle, build metabolism mentality?
A long time.
Yeah, it's not one workout.
No.
It takes a little while.
Well, what if I go one workout, we're focused on that.
Oh, don't worry, when's they were doing hit training?
And then Thursday, we're doing, it's, you're going to be in an uphill battle.
You've got to get them in that mental state to really make what you're working towards
truly effective.
And as a trainer, doing it yourself, you get it.
Right, I get it. I get it.
Like I was just telling you guys, I finally switched over to,
what I mean by bodybuilding mode is focusing on definition,
looking at my exercises as a means to an end versus like,
I'd lift more, I want to get stronger.
It takes a second to switch over.
I mean, you're totally changing up the intent
of everything you're doing.
So it's like really you're walking into the gym,
like trying to accomplish different goals for that day
and to be able to work through those exercises
in a different way.
So yeah, it does require that a lot of times.
And it's usually what you don't wanna do
because you're so set in what you're doing.
And everything was going well and easy.
And now, you know, the real like transformation
and change is gonna happen when you work in a completely different direction.
Totally.
All right, so speaking about training,
so this weekend I had some time alone,
Jessica took the baby to the park for a few hours
and I just geeked out on nutrition studies
and supplement studies.
And I read up a lot about a supplement
that we've all been using forever
that's been around for a long time, fish oil.
There's some really interesting, so there's a lot of a long time, fish oil. There's some really interesting,
so there's a lot of controversy.
There's a lot of controversy, yeah.
Okay, so yes, I get some of that,
but I also don't because a lot of the evidence
is pretty damn strong,
and then my personal experience,
and then my clients experience with fish oil
has always been excellent.
It's one of the most effective single supplements
I've ever seen, reduce my clients stiffness
and improve mobility.
Well, there's lots of studies that support this.
There's studies that show, so if you're somebody that always pushing yourself to the limit,
you're training really hard and recovery becomes, it's like you're on a razor edge, right?
Am I doing too much? Am I not doing enough when you're really training at peak intensity?
Fish oil makes a big difference, and studies show, there's actually a couple studies that show that people who supplemented
with fish oil either did not lose strength or lost minimal strength post a strenuous work
out.
So after really, really hard, like, say, leg workout, the day or two after, you're not
going to be as strong in your legs because of the damage or whatever.
People who took fish oil didn't lose strength or lost far less than people who didn't.
It also is shown to improve mobility tremendously.
So if you have issues with mobility, you're focusing on mobility.
It's like a joint lubricant.
Absolutely.
And then here's another one.
And people who are older, there's a study that shows that people who supplemented with
fish oil, built more muscle.
The fish oil itself with the other control shows that it actually built more muscle.
So the study that I would like to see with it, and what I've heard that's conflicting with
Omega-3s, is if you have a really poor diet and you consume a lot of Omega-6s and 9s,
that it out competes to threes in the cell.
So let's say you have somebody who's like fast food, really bad diet, but they're doctor
or sal tell them all the great research around omega-3s.
So they throw the omega-3s on it.
I hear that you may as well flush it down the toilet because the six isn't, if you're taking
that much in, you're over-consuming calories, you're over-consuming saturated fats, you
have a bad diet.
And then you also take the fish oil, it basically, the sixes and
nines out compete the three.
So, here's in my experience working with clients whose diets weren't the greatest, but I
did talk them into using fish oil for inflammation, mainly for inflammation.
They would have to take high doses, so I would have them take six, eight, ten grams of
fish oil, which is about six, eight, 10 typically capsules.
For example, the capsules.
Yeah, so like the one that I like, I'm using right now is Legion's triton.
I like his product.
What's his call?
It's called triton.
Yeah, really, really good product.
Obviously, you know, Mike's supplements are excellent.
But that's six is godly.
It is godly sea.
It is godly sea.
So it's very clever, Mike.
Yeah, I know.
Aquaman's a friend or whatever, but's not a sea. So it's very clever, Mike. Yeah, no. Aquamanza, friend or whatever, but it's like,
six to 10 of those capsules spread out throughout the day.
So you do like three with breakfast, three with lunch.
Now see, would that matter though?
I mean, based off of what I'm talking about is that
the sixes and nines are, from what I've heard.
That's what I'm saying.
I think taking more than,
it doesn't matter based off of what I've read
is that it's, they're still stronger.
Well, you still have to remove that of your diet.
Yeah, like they would out-compete it.
So it's, you know, if there was an equal,
even amount of threes that you took in,
it wouldn't matter because the sixes and nines
are, will out-compete the threes.
So from what I've been reading,
it makes somewhat of a difference, but let's be honest,
trying to fix a bad diet with,
right, right.
So the main reason why I'm bringing it up is that I wonder
when you read a lot of the studies that control this,
are they controlling the diet to where they're in a
either calorie restricted or more low balanced,
or balanced type of diet,
or are they looking at the average American diet,
which is really full of crap.
So the ones that I read, what they're doing is they're just taking people and they're
not changing anything.
They're just throwing fish oil into it.
Yeah, that's interesting to me.
So it's like fish oil versus placebo.
Because I feel like every doctor, Cairo recommends fish oil, and if they don't change their
diet, I'm like, is it really doing anything for them?
How often do you think that they're rancid?
Because I know like the ice to kind of poke,
you know, a hole in it and smell,
and sometimes it was, it was God awful.
I'm like, I gotta get rid of this batch.
It's a food.
It's like any other food.
It's all about freezes them.
He's the one who got me started.
Yeah, no, that's the way to go.
Yeah, I started doing that when he said that.
First of all, freezing them will prevent them
from going bad.
You can put them in the fridge too,
but I like to freeze them. Then what what happens some people complain about taking fish oil and then it like repeats on them
Like they'll burp or something. Oh God. Yeah. Okay. If you freeze it that doesn't happen
So if you freeze it take it I it doesn't happen. I've had clients do that forever and people who complained about that
I told them to freeze it and they said oh totally took care of that from right away. Oh, that's interesting
Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah really good. That's really interesting.
Did you guys, I know, I think Justin,
do you still read like the hustle and stuff?
Do you follow that?
Not just hustler.
Yeah.
You read the hustle and, did you read the,
did you read the story on the sharper image guy?
Oh, I didn't get to that one.
Oh, do it really, really,
you guys know sharper image, the story, right?
Do they still exist?
I don't know, look and see if they're gone.
I think they might be gone.
It's like super expensive. They don't need. Do you know, it really is. It're gone. I think they might be gone. It's like super expensive.
Favid don't need.
Yeah, you know, you know, it really is.
It's like, you know, the story,
the story's really, his story's really cool.
The guy was born in the 40s and in the 70s,
he started sharper image and when he started it,
hey, do you wanna get that?
Yeah.
It's the IRS.
Yeah, it's like when you're in class.
Go ahead and answer the phone here.
Yeah, go ahead and see what's going on.
Yeah, go ahead and see what's going on.
It's what I would do too if I was a teacher. Answer that shit. Let me find out who's on the phone with. Yeah, go ahead. I see what's going on. That's what I would do, too, if I was a teacher.
Answer that shit.
Let me find out who's on the phone right now.
Give me a mic.
Let's talk to him.
Let's talk to him.
I mean, class on.
No, so in the 70s, he started Sharper Image,
and he had this idea to go, he would go around
to all these like conventions and find
like these weird tech things that were just one off.
The small companies, they weren't any of the big guys
that were doing stuff that was different and odd his big
home run the first thing that took him off was a digital watch.
So there was a way ahead of everybody. Yeah there was no there was no digital watches around that time and he gets he gets
the digital watch and what was brilliant about him so he was up here in San Francisco and there was a guy.
And I want to say the 70s or 80s that was famous
for running with shirtless old guy like in the 70s or 80s.
And he used to run in San Francisco.
He ran the gold gate bridge every single day,
no shirt on, old dude.
Like everybody who drove that commute knew who this guy was.
He finds this guy, he gets him that watch
and he spends all these money on his first time ever,
a watch that could keep up with Carl, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whatever his name was, I don't remember what his name was,
right?
Yeah, and he's got to do what, and it explodes
and the dude ends up making millions of dollars.
Wow, that's fascinating.
Right, so he ends up doing that, it ends up,
I think he goes on like a good 10 year run
of making millions.
You guys are, and then this is kind of now moving
into the 90s when we are around
and we're very familiar with sharp image.
It was at the peak, or it's at its height then
with all the cool massage chair and weird stuff like that.
And then it takes a nose dive, dude.
Like we go into a recession,
people aren't spending money on weird gadgets like that.
And the business almost goes completely bankrupt.
I think their stock drops from, you know,
the high 50s or 60s all the way down to like $2.
And then you know what brought him back?
I didn't know he was responsible for this.
The razor.
Like the razor, the sorter.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Oh wow.
He founded in Hong Kong at like a convention.
And he was the one who brought the razor over the States.
Wow.
I didn't know that.
That thing exploded.
Yes.
Sharper image is two things for me.
Number, it's the number one store that I go into and buy nothing.
So that's number one.
I always go into it because it's cool.
Useless tech gear.
Never buy shit.
And then number two, they have really good vibrators.
That's about it.
Was it the two thing?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They're not sold as vibrators, but they're hand-missed.
They're misogyned.
So I think they're bankrupt now.
Let me see, or they're gone now.
Are they still in existence, Doug?
Yeah, they're online.
I don't think they have stores anymore.
I mean, they got weird shit.
So you know what?
So you know what crippled them was he put all of his money
into this air purer.
Barbecue cleaner.
It's all like the combo stuff.
He came out with this in 2000.
He came out with this air purifier that he like, he spent
so much money on it.
He's the negative eye on one of those.
Yeah, and it did really well initially.
And then some magazine, some notorious magazine back then came out and rated it like the worst
air purifier after it already sold tons.
And so gave him really bad pub,
and then instead of just letting it go,
he poured a ton of money into suing and fighting,
and instead of them letting go,
they doubled and tripled down.
They wrote another article about it,
and say not only is it the worst,
that it puts out bad,
puts out bad carbon air outside,
it puts out bad.
It causes cancer.
Yeah, it completely like fuck the company.
And I think that's what closed all the stores down
and forced them.
So I wasn't sure if they completely shut down
or they went down just.
So there's a store similar to Sharper Image.
Brookstone.
No, it's at Santana Ro and it's called beta.
I think it's called, have you guys been there?
No. You guys seen it?
Doug's seen it.
So it's called beta and you go in there
and it's all this weird tech stuff
that you're not gonna find.
Brookstone is like this too.
It's very, at something like that, right?
But there was one thing that was super cool in there
that we almost bought.
They just didn't have a size that we liked.
It was a picture frame that you hang up on the wall
and then you download paintings and pictures
and it was, it looked gorgeous.
So you could put it up in your house
and change your painting and pictures.
It's the Samsung frame.
Yeah, we do that too on that one.
Oh, there's another thing.
Yeah, you can, does it look good?
Oh, gallery.
This one looked amazing.
The only problem was it wasn't big enough
for where we wanted it.
We wanted a big one.
Oh, yeah.
But it looked really, really cool.
Yeah, I'm always wondering about that
because I used to be really into like all the gear stuff
and like all those different, you know stuff and all those different gadgets and things.
And it's like, what's left?
What's left that's really futuristic
other than like little holograms or, you know, like.
There's so much, bro, still.
Look it up on the thing right now.
What is that thing hanging by the boat?
But that's all just like, I mean,
this is just like lame gadgets.
It's lame to us right now, because you don't understand it, we don't use it. But this is how he's, this is just like the name gadgets. Yeah, you know, it's lame to us right now,
because you don't understand it, we don't use it.
But that's, this is how these,
this is what he was known for.
What he was known for was finding like these gadgets
that most people would think is stupid.
Well, let's say you clicked on one, Doug.
What is that call right there?
Closet, Ionic air purifier.
Yeah, because I want my shirt to have purifier.
Why?
Yeah, so you know what this reminds me of?
The stink.
Okay, you know what it reminds me of?
It reminds me of every 80s dad in the what it reminds me of it reminds me of every
80s dad in the movies that was an inventor so in the 80s every movie where there's a dad that's an inventor Well, he makes weird do dads and kids and you know
It's funny about that as you go back you watch all those movies and it has that one thing in common. It's always like
Rube's Goldberg or what?
What's it called? Yeah?, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, some like bowling ball gets knocked down and it goes down this track and then
it hits this coffee can and then it swings over.
Makes a chicken lane.
Yeah, just to like unscrew a dog, a can of dog food and then dump it in its thing.
Yeah.
That was the invention.
So, every invention.
I think it's called something like that.
There's like a name for these kind of inventions where they're extremely complex to perform
very simple ones.
Yeah, one stupid task.
Yeah, there was this one I watched online
where this guy put one together
and it started in his front yard.
And the whole video was 10 minutes long
and it starts in his front yard
and it goes through the front yard,
through he's got like this pond.
What is it?
It goes over his roof into his backyard down this freaking alley.
It's like the most insane-
It's not gonna overdominose,
but it just has all this cause and effect just to get to one of the checkers.
What are those call dogs?
Rube, Goldberg?
It's Rube Goldberg, something like that.
Rube, something.
Yeah, and you can find these online and there-
What is he just pull up?
These are like crazy Japanese inventions.
Wow.
What is the face, what is that face?
What is that face one up there?
Is she's wearing a hat?
Oh, to prevent splatter from eating soup or noodles.
Because you know, it's embarrassing when you splatter your face,
but that's way less embarrassing.
That's not embarrassing.
To wear a big sun thing around your face.
Weird, mean.
Hey, look at the one on the bottom left.
It's napkin lion's mane.
That's a helmet to prevent your head from going forward
and you fall asleep on the subway.
No, it's, what is that?
That is. What is exactly what that is.
What?
Yeah, Japanese tend to fall asleep on the subways and trains.
So it has their head from down over.
It has a plunger on the back and she plunges her head against the window to keep that
is home layer.
Hey, look at the look at the one in the middle.
It's if you're like to cry or whatever.
It's a paper roll and it's above your head.
So you pull it down.
It's full of the,
it's a blur nose,
I can't believe we lost the election.
Or,
Wow, that's hilarious.
I know a few people I can buy that for.
Yeah.
Hey, so Adam, how annoyed is Katrina
that you found another sport to watch on TV?
Like, be honest with me, you found another sport to watch.
Well, this is actually one of my favorite things
about my wife is that, and this is what, you know.
She keeps it in.
No, she, I tell you what, this true story.
There's been multiple moments of like,
when people ask me like, oh, when did you know,
for sure she was the one?
Well, I've fallen deeper in love with her every year
for 10 plus years, and one of the things I'll never forget,
I'll never forget coming home from work
and probably the first year that we were together.
And I walked upstairs from a long day
and she was in the living room,
all by her, there's obviously no kids, nothing like that.
She's living in the living room by herself, watching ESPN.
And I'm like, oh, I love this woman.
I said, you know, I'll come home on,
I call men as a unicorn.
I heard you, yeah.
I'll work sometimes on a Sunday.
She'll be watching football by herself.
So she loves sports.
I mean, she was a competitive athlete, right?
So she and she doesn't discriminate.
Like she likes all sports.
And we just got done.
I told you guys, I've got sucked into that Netflix,
the formula one.
So I'm on second season.
I binge the first season.
I'm on second season right now.
And because what I'm, to tell you be honest,
what I'm really excited about the sport
that's different than maybe other sports I picked up.
I picked up hockey when I was in my 20s.
There was a lot going on to learn all that
and figure that out.
Formula One was relatively easy to kind of become a fan
of it because it's so small.
I mean, there's only, there's literally only 10 teams.
And there's only 20 drivers. It didn't take me very long to learn all the teams,
learn all the drivers. And then there's, you know, the, basically, I think they have like a race
almost every weekend when the season starts. So there's, there's only so many races. It's pretty
easy to follow. So when do you start betting on it? I don't know about that. We'll see. We'll see.
That's when I know your name.. Well, yeah. You know what?
So I only bet on basketball, mate and football, because I watch, I watch it.
And when I bet basketball, I only bet warriors, because I watch every game.
I feel like you, and I know if I'm, if I'm, you know, getting sucked into gambling,
I'm starting to bet on other stuff.
And I think it's irresponsible to bet on stuff that you're not really like watching
all of it. So you have someone who have an educated guess, right?
So it's a 50-50 chance in gambling sports, no matter what.
I think if you're going to be decent at it, you should have, you know, you should have someone.
No, you should have one. I mean, I'm up right now. I mean, you guys, I've told you guys,
I've been, like, I have not, not tracked this entire season. And so, you know, I don't know if you,
if I've, if I've told you guys, or you guys have been over the house and sin, but, you know, I hit the quarter mark. So this is, you know, we're at the end of the first quarter. And, you know, it, it funded my, my two new surround sound setups that I got.
So I got some, I got a Kev speakers down in the lower part of the house upstairs. I bought some Bowers and Wilkins, which are really nice setups for the TVs that's smart and it's all sponsored by you at least now that you can't do anything
with that money. Well that's how I justify it right so and if I would have not I
wouldn't have bought those. So if you lose your gonna sell them. No no it's like where
the speakers go out I'll break it up like in quarters like that right and
Katrina was asking me she's just like whoa another sound like it's on the it's
on the gambling it's on the gambling thing.
It's on my side, Joe.
Yeah, yeah, it's it.
We were like, what, so.
But a little rounder.
She, I mean, she loves it.
She's into it.
We both got into the show.
And actually, this weekend was the first time.
So I told you guys when I originally was talking
about Formula One, I have, I kind of peered in on it.
I knew a tiny, tiny bit about it.
And I still know very little about it. In fact, this was my first beginning to end watching an entire race.
And I really enjoyed it because of what I know now.
Because of the, how brilliant is that for Netflix to do things like that?
I can't be the only one who's now, I had a bunch of people DM me too that said,
oh my god, I'm a fan now.
That's great.
The show has turned so many people on till watching it
I didn't realize how much kind of behind the scene drama is going on and it sucked me in
Well, I wonder if like ultimate fighters or did that for the of course
Of course, they're 100% are you kidding me that fight between God?
No, I can't remember the who the who's the last course Griffin and Stefan Monter there you go that right there. Epic fight.
It's one of the top 10 ever UFC actually it actually is credited
with making the UFC profitable.
Right again was was all that yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, people do have to buy into the whole drama of it
and really just get inside information.
That's the worst is when you go to a sporting event.
You just don't you don't know what it takes to kind of pull this off.
You have to be invested.
That's what makes all sports so amazing is when you start to learn enough about, even
like a lot of people think baseball is so boring, but baseball has so many little things
that are happening behind the scenes and every move or maneuver.
Go stand behind home plate and watch a 90 mile an hour fastball.
Oh, that's the... Just watch it.
See, pretend you can hit that.
The good fucking lot.
The two most impressive things I've ever seen in my entire life
were a 300-pound pro football player run.
Okay, that was terrifying to see in real life.
It's like a train going faster than I thought someone could run.
Anybody. And then a fastball.
You watch a fastball live.
It doesn't make any sense at all how you can even hit that.
Well, that it was so much fun when we went
before the game started.
We went to a Niners game and we went down on the field.
So we were able to get on the field with my boys
and they were just warming up and catching balls.
And you know, one of the players came over
and said hi, it was really cool.
But they were starting to run drills and just like running drills and one of the players came over, said hi, it was really cool, but they were starting to run drills
and just like running drills
and one of the guys came so close to hitting us.
And he was like a monster, you know,
my boys were just like, oh,
but you just don't realize,
you don't put in perspective
until you're like on their level.
It's not the same.
Well, you guys are also talking about the physics of the game.
Like I'm talking about,
there's games within the game.
That's what makes,
still a strategy.
Like that's, so, and Formula One has a lot of that, right? So there's like, if
you start to learn the behind the scenes drama, like let's say there's like beefs.
Well, yeah, there's major beefs, and there's a lot of money on the line in contracts. And
you know, you would think so that something I didn't know until I started watching this,
most all Formula One teams, they have two drivers, rarely ever do the drivers like each other.
Because they're competing.
They're competing for the contract to be the number one guy.
They wanna win the race too.
And so you'll see,
and so if you know this going into the race
and you're watching the shake or am I fake?
Yeah.
You're watching some of the stuff that these guys do.
You get, and then the same thing was how I fell in love
with hockey, you know, when you find out what, you know, what the enforcers are on the team
and you can watch a certain player hit the ice and you know his job is to go to the other
team and go, fuck a guy out.
And that could be completely away from the puck.
One, you know, you're right.
It's just human nature.
You know, there was one thing that happened was very controversial, super dramatic, that
exploded viewership for figure skating.
Do you guys remember?
Nancy Kerian.
And Tonya Hardiff.
That was, that literally boomed figure skating.
And for the listeners, don't now look it up.
Literally somebody hired a hitman.
Oh, if you have not, that's a most hilarious,
or competitive, I've never heard.
If you haven't watched, like a movie.
The Tonya documentary is phenomenal.
I've watched it multiple times, it's so good.
That's how it's crazy.
That's a really, really good documentary.
Speaking of good movies, great movie.
You can watch it on Amazon Prime.
It's like in one of those in theater movies
that you can rent at home.
It's called Menari, I think it's called.
And it's about a very heartwarming movie
about this Korean family that they're immigrants
and they're in America and they buy farmland in middle America to try to
To succeed and start a farm is such a good movie
It's one of those movies you totally get pulled in and just really feel that's your best pitch. I love it
Oh bro immigrants trying to make it with honest hard work and the challenges that they over of course for me
That's very personal right because my family's immigrant. How did it do is it has it is it I mean it was a
Sundance film festival like winner it's super highly ranked I mean you could look up
rotten tomatoes and see what it did it just get released I haven't even seen the preview for it
it is it got released on you could get it in the on Amazon Prime but you have to pay like 20 bucks
because it's like one of those in theater movies. Oh. Yeah, so it's, you know, it's one of those,
it's not super exciting, it's not like action.
Yeah, that was great.
Look at that, Ron Tomatoes, look at the rating.
Wow.
90%
Wow, wow, Justin, how was your weekend?
That was great.
I mean, we went to sanctuary, so we got,
we got to get away for a bit,
and we haven't actually connected like that
in a long time like Courtney and I.
So it was just like great to be removed from the dogs,
from the kids, from, you know,
and we have like a lot of,
we're kind of back and forth right now too,
with what to do with our house, situation,
and all this stuff.
Like we've been living in the same place for 11 years now,
and had all these plans to remodel,
make it big and massive and all this,
but then, you know, there's like a house
that pops up on the market here and there that we're enticed
by.
And it's just a lot of questions and unknowns.
This helped us to just slow down and be like, we're in a really good place.
Everything's working out, just fine.
Just to chill and be in the sun and all that.
That's nice.
How long has it been since you and Corny
had that two days back to back with no kids, no dogs?
I wanna stay, I don't know, man,
it's probably like, I don't know, over a year or so.
Yeah, you have to do it, you have to do it,
you have to like, otherwise it should get starts to get
like monotonous and scheduled and stressful and whatever.
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and all that, the thing is we're a team
and we're always like kind of covering for each other.
But it's just like, when you keep doing that
and you keep going about your day and your business,
you just, you forget to just hang out,
and connect and stuff.
So yeah, that place is so magical, man.
Like, the waves crashing and everything,
the morning and the only thing that we had like these kids
Above us like the second night that were just stopping everywhere like all like little kids are like teenagers. Yeah, yeah
Little kids. Oh little kids we doing which is rare there. You don't see that very often
They go sorry. We usually don't put kids above you know on the top floor and I'm like yeah, that was a problem
Then you just have loud ass sex at night.
Take that.
Yeah, I did.
So, you know, this is what's happened for you guys right now.
Yeah!
You know, it's so true that, and I don't care how healthy
or how good of a relationship you claim you have,
it really does take an effort to make sure you do those things.
I mean, that was, you know, Katrina and I figured that out
a long time ago and just made a deal that we would just,
we would put things on the calendar ahead of time
because life hits you and when you got kids
and shit going on and like you said,
when you're like a team, so she's covering the house,
I got this going on over here, then you switch,
I'll get the kid, you get dogs, you'll do this.
And before you know it, months and months and months
start passing by and you haven't spent quality time this. And before you know it, months and months and months start passing by and you haven't spent
quality time with this partner, you know?
There's just so many things that you gotta put in perspective
that you just like, I don't, you lose sight of.
Like so, she's been at the house for an entire year,
basically like a prisoner, you know?
Cause like, you gotta make sure you manage the kids
to get through these stupid Zoom calls
and then all the work
and everything else on the computer
and to keep them focus, it ends up
like eating up the entire day.
And like she just looks forward when I come home.
And it's like underneath the redwoods in the dark.
And so it's just like, a lot of these things
I didn't put in to perspective with like,
okay, we need somewhere where there's more sun
and we need more room and all this kind of stuff.
It's just coming out ahead where a lot of this stuff
that you just kind of go about your thing
and don't realize it's been building up, building up,
building up and it's gonna become a real massive issue
for we don't take care of.
And you gotta be around other people.
And because of COVID, people were afraid to be around each other.
So you're an adult.
You know, at least we get to come here and talk to each other,
right, and have this like stimulating conversation.
But like, this is like Jessica, she's at home.
It's her and the baby, which is fine.
There's nothing wrong with that,
but there's no adults.
There's no stimulating conversation.
There's no connection.
Exactly.
And then I come home, same thing.
She's excited to talk to me.
And maybe I'm tired.
I just want to watch TV. That, that's a good thing to do
Yeah, you know the couple of old days. Yeah, I'm in load. I've had lots of connecting time with adults
I'll just chill, you know, yeah, not good
Yeah, you were talking about buying houses and stuff man. I tell you what dude
I am all I'm constantly playing this game
Where I sometimes want to sometimes I don't want to, just because of where we live.
Right.
That's why I'm so back and forth because it just doesn't make sense.
Sometimes it might, it's just like you got a really valuable.
The logical side of me, right, looks at the cost of to buy a house in the Bay Area, the
amount of capital that would tie up and what I could do with that capital from an investment
standpoint makes no sense.
The emotional side of me, which was raised by old school,
you know, Sicilian parents who are like must own your house
that you live in, never rent or whatever.
I'm like, you know, I play this game, right?
And I look at house and I'm like, oh, maybe I'll get that one.
I'm like, but then I'd be tying up all this
and I could do that with it and I was like, ah!
It's back and forth.
Well, I mean the truth is that no investor would tell you it's a smart investment right
now because none of the houses in the Bay Area passed the 20X rule.
Everything is exceeds price.
So the how, in fact, you wouldn't be able to rent it at all.
They would tell you know, the 20X rule was designed to help people with like when they
should sell a house, right?
So most people who have owned a home for more than three or four years in the Bay Area,
it's beyond 20X.
And so-
So explain what you're saying to the 20X.
So you take what the house would get rent for.
So for like so figure-
Whatever the going rate is.
Yeah, whatever the going rate is for the entire year.
And then you multiply that by 20.
If the number is lower, the rent number is lower
than the house is valued, overvalued, it's valued too high.
And that would be a good indicator to sell it, sell it,
cash it out, it's well over 20, 20X.
If it's under, it's a great buy.
So like when we make investments on real estate,
they're all under.
So it's a great buy because we could technically rent it
for more than what we would actually pay the mortgage for.
And in the Bay Area, I've done this a ton of,
and that's what always stops me.
I'm like, man, I really like this house.
And I'm trying to tell myself,
it's doing the same thing you guys are doing.
And then I calculated it out and it's like,
so let's try this out, right?
So in San Jose, just to give people watching some context,
right, in San Jose, if you were to buy a deep, like an okay,
not a great, but just an okay, you know,
I don't know, 2000 square foot, four bedroom house
that's not broken down or whatever,
you're gonna spend what, like 1.4, 1.5,
which one would you say is probably more accurate?
That's around there, 1.4, 1.5.
Okay, so let's say 1.4, 1.5, that same house,
you would rent for about 5,000.
Oh, not even.
You're lucky if you're getting one.
Unless you're at a year and a nice area,
you'd probably get 4,000 something for it.
Let's just say five, even to play that game, right?
So 5,000, so to do that rule, I'd go times 12,
and then times 20.
Yeah.
Okay.
Times 21.2.
So the house is 1.4, 1.5.
This does not pass.
It's 200,000 the opposite direction. Right.
And so the problem with that is if you buy the house, you're locked into it forever. That's it.
You can't and that's the thing that that's why there's no escape unless the market keeps climbing.
Exactly. That's why it's a bad investment. And even if it still keeps climbing,
you're still forced to sell to get out of it. Correct. You know, in a, in a, just not smart investor.
Right. Right. If you, you read, uh, you read, you know, who wrote Rich Dad Portad, he wrote real estate riches and the idea
is to keep the properties.
It's not to, you know, play the, I mean, a lot of people play the game where they buy
the house they live in and then they wait five years, they sell and they upgrade and
they do that.
Always speculating on the product.
Right.
Your complete speculation, but a smart investment would be to buy the house, keep the house
when you're ready to upgrade.
You keep the house still, you rent it out for cash flow,
and then you move to your next one.
Yeah, one of the rules that it might have been
enriched at poor dad, or maybe the one you're talking about.
He said, never your house that you live in
is not an investment or it's a liability,
because you live there.
If shit goes bad, the place you live is screwed.
Now, if you're renting it and it's on the side,
now if something happens, you're okay, because the place you live is screwed. Now if you're renting it and it's on the side, now if something happens, you're okay,
because the place you live is not that bad.
That's what makes it so hard to buy in the Bay Area right now.
And you know, there's a lot of people and by the way, too, if you read all the
articles on what they speculate in this year and next year to continue to rise,
it's here because the inventory's low.
You know, so there is a very good chance that it'll keep going up.
And if you did buy a house in the Bay Area
that in five years from now,
it'll be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars
more than what it is.
But again, you're still-
People are making a shit ton of equity, right?
Right, you're still trapped, though.
You are.
And unless you're putting 50% down on it,
if you're putting the at what the most people
are putting down, 20 to 25 tops,
percent down to your point,
and on a 1.5 million dollar,
you're tying up 300,000 plus dollars.
Minimum, yeah, 300,000 plus dollars.
Right, now what could you do with $300,000
in other areas by three to five houses?
And each one of them making you money.
Cash flowing.
From rent.
Right, right.
And again, you're not tied down to,
having to live there to pay it.
It's actually at least breaking even or making you money.
We're all on the same boat with the idea of doing that.
It's hard to do that, to justify buying the place that you live in here.
And people will be like, what about the tax benefits?
Well, there's lots of tax benefits to investing out of state and doing other things
with your money.
So the tax bet, especially now,
because they really, they capped the tax benefit.
You know that, right?
Like you can, you know, getting more benefits past 750.
But then the average house, like you just said,
you know, your track home is 1.5 million.
So you're only getting the tax benefits on 50% of that.
It's funny.
I know there's people listening in most parts of America
or like 1 point totally different
It's just watch a TV show on HG TV
Yeah, I
Eat that show. It's so bad. You're watching that this weekend. I wanted to strangle everybody on there
Well, you know, I gave you a two hundred thousand dollar budget. What is this?
They're like complaining. Yeah two hundred thousand dollar budget here's like I remodel my garage
Plain, yeah. Yeah, $200,000 budget.
Here's like, I remodel my garage.
Yeah, seriously.
I mean, a shack outside.
That's hilarious.
I'm gonna take a left and talk about one of our sponsors
because this has only happened to me a couple times
since we've had the podcast.
So we get approached by sponsors all the time
who wanna work with us and whatever.
And we have a very stringent criteria
for working with companies, right?
We have to, number one, of course, believe in the product.
We have to all try it.
We have to all use it regularly, really like it.
We have to like the people we're working with.
They can have a great product.
If you don't like the people, we're not gonna work with them.
It's also got to provide value to our audience.
So it can be just some one-off type of thing
that maybe I like because of my, whatever.
It's got to have lots of value, right?
So, but every once in a while,
one of our sponsors
will bring a new product that they have.
So we're already working with them.
This happened with Ned.
Ned's hemp oil, by far is the best on the market.
I've used them all, I'm a big CBD guy,
anybody who's listened to podcasts for a long time knows
I talk about, can abinoids,
because it's helped my gut health from day one.
Significantly, they have the best hemp oil, right?
But they came out with another product and it's their mellow and it's this magnesium
based supplement.
And only happened to me a couple times where I look at something and I just briefly looked
at the ingredients and I go, ah, it's not going to have, it's magnesium, big deal.
I'm not going to, I'm, it's not going to be that big video.
And it literally sat in our studio for like months.
I think it was months.
Yeah.
Then I finally picked it up and I did a little digger,
a little bit deeper digging and I saw that one of the forms
of magnesium was created by MIT as the only form of magnesium
to cross the brain, you know, the-
Blubbering barrier.
Right, exactly.
So I tried it, blew my mind.
Since then, I've been introducing it
to all kinds of family members and friends,
and everybody's like, what is this?
This is incredible.
My sister actually messaged me last week
that it's her favorite product now.
She's like, holy shit, I heard you guys talk about mellow,
whatever commercial, whatever it was,
a couple of weeks ago when we first talked about it,
and she's like, I just tried it last night
for the first night and she's like, it blows away.
I was a little worried because I felt like,
you know, they peaked when they made their sleep product.
Right, because it was so good.
It was so, like, it works so well.
And it's like something that we would just mention
and be like, I know for sure if you try that,
like, it's gonna work like that.
And then so, yeah, it was a little bit of skepticism
on my own part and in Courtney's part as well
with the mellow, but we took it like,
it can hour beforehand, just started to really chill out
to the rest of the night and then boom, out like a light.
Now that's amazing.
Now, what is so, is it that they are the only ones
that are using this type of magnesium?
Does nobody else use that?
No, other people have used this form of magnesium
and there's three different types of magnesium.
So they picked specifically a combination of three types
that's gonna be effective.
You're the problem with magnesium.
First of all, most people are deficient magnesium,
especially if you're into a lot of stress,
you get poor sleep.
This side effects of being too low in magnesium
are like anxiety, restlessness.
Your immune system is low,
and if it gets real bad, bone loss, muscle loss,
that kind of stuff. But mainly it's like, if you just feel kind of bone loss, muscle loss, that kind of stuff.
But mainly it's like if you just feel kind of edgy, bad mood, that kind of stuff, right?
That's what happens typically when people are too low.
The problem with most magnesium is it just doesn't get absorbed.
It's like it's basically a laxative.
You take most magnesiums on the market and you just helps you poop. That's about it.
It's like, yeah, absolutely. Go take most of them and you'll notice that you'll have a big poop, but there's nothing
really happening in terms of how you feel.
Absolutely.
How interesting.
This particular, and also combines GABA.
There's also GABA in this product, which really I think takes it over the top.
But with this particular product, and the anine, right?
It's a GABA.
It's a GABA, a thinne and then the magnesium.
Proven, proven stuff.
This, the magnesium, the 308 that's in there has been shown
to improve cognitive function even.
So it's actually been shown to help,
to make people think more clearly and more sharply.
The difference between sleep and this is sleep
will put you to sleep.
Mellow literally chills you out.
So you can take it to sleep or you can just tell.
And the anxiousness is pretty much absolved.
Yes, so I did this yesterday.
I had a little bit too much caffeine. I was texting you guys and you guys, I sleep or you could just tell. I mean, anxiousness is pretty much absolved. Yes, so I did this yesterday. I had a little bit too much caffeine.
I was texting you guys and I can sure you guys could tell.
Took some mellow and it took the edge off.
I didn't get that.
I didn't go to sleep, but I just felt good.
I haven't tested it like that.
I want to test it like that because every once in a while
I make that mistake where I do too much caffeine
or go too late and then that always fucks my sleep.
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The first question is from Soraya Graham.
Can limited flexibility or range of motion inhibit gains?
For example, will a reduced range of motion in a hip thrust prevent me from maximum muscle growth?
Or will I see growth because this is my max extension?
Yeah, 100% lack of mobility can inhibit muscle growth. And there's a range of how much it impacts you.
And that has to do with how bad your range of motion is. If your range of motion and mobility is so bad that you can't, for example, barbell squat,
which is one of the most,
if not the most effective lower body exercise,
so you can't do barbell squats,
then you're not gonna build as much muscle.
That's a cascading effect.
Absolutely.
If your range of motion is limiting you by a couple inches,
it's gonna make a small difference maybe.
But studies are very clear.
Lar, good, long, appropriate, I have to say appropriate,
cause I don't want people to push the range of motion
past their mobility.
But appropriate range of motions,
if you have a deep range of motion,
you compare to a shallow range of motion,
both appropriate, the deep range of motion
is gonna build more muscle and give you strength,
that spans a greater range, right?
So, let's say I do a curl and I go six inches,
most of the strength that I gain is gonna be in that six inches.
If I do a 12-inch extension,
then it's gonna be to the 12 inches.
So, more strength across a broader range
and it equals more muscle.
Shout out to, I remember who this is.
So, I met her at Orange Theory,
God, probably four plus years ago now,
maybe more or five years ago now,
and I was helped her.
She wanted to develop her glutes.
And by the way, she's got a incredible physique already,
but she was very quad dominant.
And I remember watching her train inside Orange Theory
and giving her some exercises to do to help that out.
And definitely what it, she lacks the depth in her squat.
So she's got a good form, good technique down
to like 90 degrees or whatever,
but breaking that 90 degrees and getting really good depth,
I think her ankle mobility and hip mobility kind of limit her
from getting that deep.
So I had her doing some things in the class
that I would add specifically for her to help her out
with developing the glutes.
Now, to Sally's point, I 100% agree.
I do wanna add though that I wouldn't eliminate
the hip thrust because of that, right?
So just because the hip thrust is a shorter range of motion,
I wouldn't eliminate it as a great exercise
for you still to build your glutes.
Like complimentary.
Yeah, absolutely still continue to do hip thrust,
but in conjunction with also working on the depth of your squat and working on
the mobility and trying to get yourself to a place where you can do a full range of
motion squats.
Yeah, and I think to, like, I mean, to place sort of the other side of it.
There's unfavorable movements and things.
And when you're just really trying to seek, like, excessively, like, wide ranges of motion,
and like, a lot of these, like, mobility guys wide ranges of motion and like a lot of
these like mobility guys really geek out and get into this kind of stuff, but I was trying
to explain to my son who I had brought up on the podcast before was do know the Russian
dance or is it basically you're squatting your butts almost hitting the floor, but then
you're jumping and he's kicking his legs out like that and he really hurt his knee.
And I'm trying to explain to him,
doing all that explosive movement,
in that position and that kind of a lever
and your knee is gonna suffer from that.
That's not favorable for you to provide strength and support.
But obviously, that's something that you work up towards,
but there's certain ranges where it's ideal.
Yes, a lower position,
you're gonna gain the full amount,
and it's gonna translate more to your glutes.
And a lot of times,
people don't break that plane,
and it needs, and it requires more ankle support
and ankle mobility.
Yeah, you gotta train,
your range of motion has to be appropriate.
You have to own the range of motion.
So I don't want people to listen to this
and be like, oh, deeper is better. So then they go, they go past what they can
control. They compromise. That means you're going to hurt yourself. That happens a lot.
It does. You have to own the range of motion. So the idea is to train in the largest range
of motion that you own. So that's it. And then, and then from there, if you want to work
towards getting a larger range of motion, be careful.
Use mobility and correctional exercises and don't load until you own that range of motion.
I also know that Soraya was, obviously she was doing orange theory, so she was big on
the circuit training type of classes.
So hopefully you've eliminated those classes and you're doing more strength training,
because there's two other things that I would include for you that we didn't talk about. Good mornings, I would definitely include for you and then I'd also
do sumo deadlifts. And then hopefully when you're doing things like hip thrust and extra that you're
able to look like you're doing it with the barbell and loading heavy. I mean we were doing this
in a class setting. So I had her like, you know, doing floor bridges with, you know, dumbbells under
hips where she should be she was strong too. So she's a very strong girl. She should be doing 200 plus pounds on
hip thrust and be able to do good mornings, probably pretty loaded too. So I would focus
on those three movements.
Next question is from Malibu Banks. After doing deadlifts, how do you know if you're just
really sore if your form wasn't correct and might have caused a small injury?
Okay. So soreness versus injury.
You know, when I used to hear this from clients,
I used to always kind of scratch my head,
like how do you know, how do you not know the difference?
It's kind of obvious.
But then I realized that people just aren't in their bodies,
right?
If you don't exercise a lot, it's a new stimulus.
Yes, and you see this with kids a lot.
When I do certain exercises with my kids,
they and they get sore, like my daughter will wake up
and she'll be like, you know,
call me from her room and I'll be like,
what's the matter?
She's like, I hurt my legs.
I'll be like, you hurt your legs.
It'll make show me where it hurts
and then I'll move around.
I'll be like, you're sore, honey.
Like she doesn't know the difference
between soreness and pain.
So I can kind of get that.
All right, so soreness is in the muscle. Pain and it's in the muscle
and you don't see lots of inflammation, you don't see discoloration and it doesn't cause major
dysfunction, typically, right? You can get super sore to the point where that happens, in which case,
how we consider that almost an injury. Injuries you typically feel on the joints. So if you're doing
deadlifts, you might get some soreness in the muscles
that run up and down the spine.
You might get some soreness in your hips,
you might get some soreness in your forearms,
but you shouldn't have pain in the spine,
in the actual spine or in the hip joint.
That's typically where you're either injured
or you're about to get injured.
Well, I'm too, just like more of a shooting pain,
like more of a electricity almost where it's like,
you start to move in a direction and then it limits you
and it inhibits like the movement completely
to where you have to kind of sit down,
you have to adjust what you're normally doing
to where you really can't pull it off.
I would say that that's something that is more
towards the injury spectrum.
But yeah, it's funny because a lot of times
two people get sore in stabilizing muscles.
And it's hard to distinguish what that is, right?
It's even happened to me one time where I'm like,
oh my God, it's my kidney or my liver or something.
It's just like my oblique.
I haven't had a sore oblique or a sore QL, and it's just, you know, they did
something where they twisted or rotated it, and their body had to really brace really hard
and they didn't realize.
Typically, too, an injury will either get worse over time and or will take a long time,
where soreness will get progressively better, right?
So like if you get sore and you feel really, really sore, typically sometimes a day two of
being sore is really bad, right?
But normal day three, day four, day five, day six, every day you feel progressively better
on your sore.
Many times when you've injured something, you strained a ligament or your joints or hurting so that it will hang around much longer
and sometimes even get...
And it doesn't feel better when you move it.
That's a big one.
If you're sore, you can move the muscle
and it feels a lot better.
It's right, it's right.
It feels more...
Right, like you were using your daughter,
her legs are hurting because they're sore
and you were to put her in,
and you stretched her for a good 20 minutes,
she would feel better after that.
So if you get, if you stretch or do yoga or do mobility and it seems to make whatever
you feel feel better, good chance of that soreness, if it feels worse when you're doing
stuff like that, be careful, it could be injury.
Next question is from Dragon from India.
What are the top five must-haves for longevity and health?
Are they attainable without spending a ton of money
on supplements, gym memberships, et cetera?
Yes, okay, health and longevity, yes.
Most of these things I'm about to say
are definitely attainable.
And I'm gonna use general categories
because we could break down each category
and get into
specifics or whatever. So I think the first thing is
good, appropriate physical activity. Now of course we talk about physical activity on the show all the time. We talk about our favorite types and what types of the most beneficial blah, blah, blah, but
generally speaking, good, appropriate physical activity. Diet is the other one. So a good, healthy diet. Again, we can get into
specific, so it's much more complex than what I'm saying, but that's one of them. The next one is
your family and relationship health. So, do you have good relationships with the people around you
and your family and your kids and your spouse? That's very important for health. Then there's
spiritual health. Okay, by the way, these are all proven.
These are all proven with multiple, multiple studies.
Okay, spiritual health is very important.
Now people ask, what do you mean by spiritual health?
Is it religion?
Yeah, it's religion's one way to work on spiritual health.
It's one of the most time tested in proven ways, but there's lots of other ways.
But essentially, spiritual health is taking that,
you know, as my friend Arthur Brooks would say,
that 40,000 view look at yourself and humanity
and the world, it's looking at things from that perspective,
that those big thoughts, those deep thoughts,
you know, pondering the meaning of life
and you know, if there's...
It's acknowledging how small you are.
That's it.
That's that spiritual health.
And are you spending time fostering that, right?
On a regular basis, just like you would
with exercise diet and then your relationships,
family and friends.
And then the last one, and then again,
this is proven by studies, is to have meaningful,
purposeful work.
This is actually quite important.
In fact, studies show that people's risk of dying.
This is a weird one.
Look this up.
People's risk of dying skyrockets after they retire oftentimes.
So here are people working a job all the time.
Wake up it, you know, 7 a.m.
Gotta go to work, whatever.
Then they retire and they're like, oh, this is gonna be so great.
I don't have to work any more.
And depression goes up, anxiety goes up, and death goes up because we are wired
to feel like we're productive.
We have to feel like we're contributing.
Otherwise we feel like lost, right?
So this can be a job where you get paid,
it could be volunteer work,
it could be whatever, something that you wake up every day,
it's hard, it takes effort, but you feel very, something that you wake up every day, it's hard,
it takes effort, but you feel very,
lots of purpose and meaning behind.
Those are the five things.
If you got all those and you focus on all those,
you have a good chance of better,
good health and longevity.
Doug, didn't we do an episode on this?
Didn't we do?
Yeah, I guess we did.
Well, I do, well I ask you because I expect that,
by the time this is over, you'll find it.
Give it to Andrew so Andrew can throw it up in the YouTube. And right now he'll probably
put it up right here where you can actually see it on the YouTube channel.
There it is. That's all that.
That's nice.
And people will convene and thanks.
Because we went in depth with this topic actually. And I think Sal hit on that. Although
I will give you something for those that are not religious or spiritual and but would want I would say another way to
Explain a spiritual how for a non religious person is the pursuit of
ultimate self-awareness emotional intelligence
I think if if the the whole you know
Spiritual and religious thing absolutely scares you and you and you don't want to do anything like that. I think
you know, spiritual and religious thing absolutely scares you and you and you don't want to do anything like that. I think pursuing self-awareness and EQ is probably the same direction that you're totally.
Yeah, you're going to get in value and you're going to get from that.
Yeah, I think to, I mean, it's definitely the relationship.
And you've highlighted those studies before.
It's just like it's so much bigger than I think society right now even realizes. And this is what worries me the most
with the trends of, you know, the aftermath of a pandemic and where we're all at as a society with,
you know, pushing people away, pushing all our friends all our family away, masking up, you know,
not having those interactions with human beings is really a detriment to our health. And this is something that, you know,
you think you're protected, you're protecting yourself
from all these, like, you know, invading viruses
and things out in the world, but at what compromise
are we, you know, like facing in terms of doing that
versus like what that's gonna do towards our long-term health
and interactions
with other human beings.
By the way, and this is, I heard this again
from Arthur Brooks, you can be alone and lonely
and be around people.
You can be in a city with lots of people,
but also be very lonely and have health consequences
as a result.
It's funny, I was having a conversation this weekend with Jessica.
We were, it was a beautiful Sunday,
yesterday it was gorgeous.
And I was sitting outside with Jessica
and the baby went down for an app or whatever
and we're talking.
And she's got an interesting story.
So I've said this a long time ago,
I talked about what she did before on the podcast,
but she used to travel with the circus.
She used to travel with the circus. She used to travel with Cirque du Soleil.
So she's had the amazing opportunity to live
in all these different countries.
And we were talking about what it's like to live in Spain
and what's it like to live in Italy or Greece
or some of these other countries.
And she goes, it's so weird, it's like in Spain,
they do the Ciesta. And I'm like, oh yeah, it's like she's like in Spain, they do the CSDOT, you know, and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's weird. And in Italy in the summer, like
everybody shuts down in August. Everything's closed. Nobody works in August. And they, and
they spend a lot of time, like lunch will be two hours or three hours. And we're talking
about this. And on the one hand, we're like, oh, man, you know, you could be so much more
productive or whatever. And I say, you know, it's funny. When you look at the studies on
longevity for people who live in these places,
even though they smoke more cigarettes,
and even if they're fat like Americans are,
even if they have obesity like we do,
they live longer.
Why do they live longer?
These cultures really value human connection.
Quite a bit.
Like, you go to lunch with your friends.
It's powerful.
I'm telling you, in Southern Italy,
if you go to lunch with your friends,
here's what it looks like,
I notice this as a kid.
You go to a restaurant in America.
When you go there, the server brings you your food
and your bill at the same time.
And right now, if you've never been anywhere else,
this is normal for you.
It's like, you get your food and your bill.
They want you to eat and get the hell out.
And it's all about eating and getting the hell out.
In Italy, it's rude to give you the bill unless you ask for it.
And they take their sweet ass time,
bringing you to each thing, and you chill.
It's like two hours for lunch,
and I got frustrated at first when I went there as a kid,
and I'm like, oh, I wanna,
and then I realized they're just,
they're here to connect and hang out,
and whatever.
For social thing.
Yeah, so that's a very, very important part of health,
and fitness fanatics who are unhealthy and they. For social thing. Yeah, so that's a very, very important part of health and fitness fanatics who are unhealthy
and they're pursuit of fitness.
Oftentimes, this is the one thing
that completely throughout the window.
It's like, no, it's all about working out,
it's all about diet, and they're not connecting
with friends, they're not connecting with family,
they're not socializing because they're afraid
they're gonna lose their gains, they're afraid
they're not gonna be ripped or whatever,
not realizing that their health is suffering is consequent.
Well, I noticed too, we didn't plug any of our sponsors and supplements
and talk about biohacking shit.
Like all these things don't cost you any money.
It's just that they get overlooked.
Just take effort.
And our society always wants to jump to whatever pill
or whatever cool to, even the way that questions
worded that's not really expensive.
Like yeah, none of these things cost money, you know,
it takes time, takes effort, you know,
but you know, it's something that we've lost side of,
I feel like as a country sometimes.
Next question is from Cassidy Hoffman official.
Can my body adapt to neat in the same way it would to cardio?
You all talk about body adapting to cardio in a way that you'll have to keep adding more
for it to be effective.
Will the need I employ to prevent weight gain do the same?
All right, so if we're talking about calorie burn and fat loss and that kind of stuff,
yeah, your body starts to burn less calories, your body starts to adapt.
But here's the problem.
And I think sometimes when people hear us talk about this,
they get the message that that's all the value
of cardiovascular activity or neat
is that is the fat burning effect.
There's another side to this, which is it's good for you.
You don't have to burn more, you don't have to get ripped,
you don't have to burn more.
It's just good for you to move.
In fact, sitting down all day long
is worse for you than smoking cigarettes
and as bad as having a bad diet.
So who cares?
Who cares?
It's just good for you.
It's good for your health.
It's good for your mental health.
Good for your physical health.
Reduces inflammation, lower your risk of cancer,
heart disease, diabetes, everything.
So forget the fat loss.
I think sometimes we get so focused on
how's it gonna make me look.
We forget about how good it is.
Well, it's because we come out and we talk about that, right?
Because that's the number one thing that you get asked
as a trainer, is everybody wants to know the fastest way
to lose fat, to get in shape or to look a certain way.
And so we address the cardio thing,
it from that perspective so often.
It does not mean that we don't think
that there's tremendous value in somebody doing
a 30 minute bout of cardio
every single day.
I think that's a great hour even.
That's great.
If it's something that's a part of your lifestyle
and you can maintain that forever,
but absolutely the body will adapt to that.
And it will not be the best way for you to lean out.
So you really gotta, you have to know
who we're trying to communicate that information to.
We're communicating it to the masses
that think
that cardio is a great way to lose body.
Yeah, and they only have three hours a week, Sal.
What should I do to burn body fat?
Well, if you only have three hours a week, lift weights.
Right. That's the most effective way.
But yeah, moving is good for your period.
Well, even if you put on the apples,
the apples, you got that one hour block or whatever.
And like you burn X amount of calories
and that one hour block versus all day long,
you're just up, you're active, you're moving.
We've seen this, we've tested this.
How much more effective you are at even burning calories,
but yeah, to what you brought up, it's just beneficial.
It's beneficial.
You're getting things done in your house,
you're expressing all the joints in your body,
you're pumping blood constantly throughout the day.
There's just so many recuperative elements to that
versus like trying to then now add a very specific stress
to your body to get your body fetid lower.
Totally, and one more thing,
and I'll do the, I'll make this argument all day long.
One hour of cardio done all at once
versus three 20 minute bouts of cardio or whatever, okay? Everything being equal, the difference is one is done all at once versus 3 20 minute bouts of cardio or whatever, okay?
Everything being equal the difference is one is done all at once the other one's done throughout the day
The one done throughout the day will have superior benefits more carry over to across the board
It's better. It's gonna be better for health joint health brain health
It'll probably be better even for fat loss to a small degree. It's better to move
probably be better even for fat loss to a small degree. It's better to move throughout the day
than to dedicate one hour of movement
and then the rest of the day sit down
even if the time is all equal.
But back to comparing to needs,
like, need is technically none of the extra,
even walking is technically not need.
I know we've discussed it as if it was.
Like, need is supposed to be non-exercise activity
that you mindlessly do,
which would be more like a tick, right, a
tick or moving around a little bit in your seat, like that is like non-exercise movement
throughout the day.
No matter what it is, your body adapts to everything.
And it doesn't take very long for it to start to adapt and then you lose the benefits
of the fat burning from it, right?
It's not that ideal, but it still doesn't take away from why you should be active all day long.
So, it's one of those conversations
I feel like we continually have to repeat ourselves
that we've, I don't know,
we've been labeled as these like non-cardio guys.
And that's just because 90% of all clients
that ever hired one of us,
if not more than that,
wanted to lose body fat.
And they think that cardio is the best way to do it.
And so we're always having to address this.
Well, guaranteed 99% of people haven't just deliberately focused on increasing the amount
of activity they have versus thinking they have to do cardio.
So that's why we highlight that more than the other.
And there's another way to do this.
And eventually you'll get adapted to it,
but I would love to see you try.
That's right, very, very good point.
Look, if you like mine pumps information,
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We even have guides for personal trainers.
Again, it's at mindpumpfree.com.
One more thing you can find to all of us on social media.
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