Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1536: Ways to Get Hormone-Disrupting Stress Under Control, How to Regain Lifting Confidence After an Injury, Grip Strength Building Techniques & More

Episode Date: April 21, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about dealing with stress that is causing hormonal imbalances, how to handle your mindset after coming back from an injury, ways to improve grip strength, and final thoughts on the range of motion debate. Oli Pop’s connection to Dum Dum lollipops. (5:29) The potential opportunities of ‘Cloud Kitchens’. (7:34) The legend of 4/20 and the benefits of cannabinoids. (11:44) Mind Pump Recommends, Body Brokers on Prime Video. (13:16) Mind Pump’s first take on Amazon Halo and its value for personal trainers/coaches. (19:34) Technology is crazy! (23:43) Alex Jones was right again! (24:35) Mind Pump Recommends, Earth at Night in Color on Apple TV+. (27:47) Funny stories and updates featuring the Mind Pump kids. (29:16) The cognitive performance benefits of handgrip training. (36:20) When lifting to failure can be beneficial and why? (39:20) Shout out to @jailhousestrong on Instagram! (41:48) The conspiracy theory surrounding Nancy Pelosi and insider trading. (44:08) The guys break down the Triller production of the Jake Paul/Ben Askren fight. (47:55) #Quah question #1 – What are some ways you can deal with the inevitable constant stress that is causing hormonal imbalances even when you eat right, exercise, and get adequate sleep? (56:37) #Quah question #2 - How do you handle your mindset after coming back from an injury? (1:05:00) #Quah question #3 – How do you improve grip strength? (1:10:42) #Quah question #4 – I would love to hear you discuss the recent debate on range of motion. (1:14:51) Related Links/Products Mentioned April Specials: MAPS Anabolic or Shredded Summer Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “APRILSPECIAL” at checkout** Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for 15% off your first order** Cloud Kitchens: A Technology-Driven Phenomenon The legend of 420: Where does it come from and what does it mean today? Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Watch Body Brokers | Prime Video Amazon Halo review: A good fitness tracker — but is it too personal? Hundreds of drones form scannable QR code for video game above Shanghai Scientists Have Created Human-Monkey Embryos, and That’s Ethically OK – Reason.com Earth at Night in Color | Apple TV+ Grip Strength and Cognitive Abilities: Associations in Old Age  How Lifting to Failure Can Be Slowing Your Gains – Mind Pump Podcast Nancy Pelosi’s Husband Bought Roblox, Microsoft Stock Nancy Pelosi's Husband Buys Microsoft Ahead of Big Govt Contract 2 Killed in Driverless Tesla Car Crash, Officials Say Jake Paul and Ben Askren's Fight Yanked Millions of Viewers into the Great Memeification of Sports Mind Pump #1402: Good Stress Vs. Bad Stress & How To Know The Difference Mind Pump #1327: Five Mindset Techniques For Fitness Success The ONLY Forearm Workout That Matters (TRY THIS!!) | MIND PUMP 5 Exercises For HUGE Forearms & A STRONGER Grip (FREE Big Arms Guide) MAPS O.C.R. | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump #1535: Should You Squat Below Parallel? Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jailhouse Strong (@jailhousestrong)  Instagram Connor Murphy (@connormurphyofficial)  Instagram Jake Paul (@jakepaul)  Instagram Ben Askren (@benaskren)  Instagram Tony Jeffries (@tony_jeffries)  Instagram

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That's drink olipop.com forward slash mind pump. Use the code mine pump for 15% off. Then we talked about the new phenomenon that's happening in the food industry, cloud kitchens. That's kind of cool. Then we talked about how today is 420, happy 420 everybody. That led us to talking about Ned. Ned makes full spectrum hemp oil extract. By the way, this is the only hemp oil extract

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Use the code Mind PumpingGet15% off your first order. Then we talked about Amazon Halo, which is kind of a new fitness and health device. We talked about body brokers. This was a documentary talking about the, you know, skisie underbelly of, you know, drug reseries. Hustle going on. Really crazy. Then I talked about how in Shanghai, they projected a QR code into the sky.

That led us to talking about Justin's theory on UFOs. Oh, by the way, Alex Jones was right. They are crossing humans with monkeys and laboratories. We talked about that. I mean, he's right about some things. Then we talked about a show on Apple TV called Earth at Night. Adam talked about how his son took a piss on the floor. Good kid. Good kid.

Then we talked about hand grip strength and cognitive performance. I brought up failure training, had a lift to failure for results. We talked about a page on Instagram called Jail How Strong, really fun. Then we talked about one of our favorite politicians, Nancy Pelosi.

Does she look like the crypt keeper from, what was that show called? Tails from the crib. Look that up. She looks just like her. And then we talked about the fight that happened this weekend between show called? Tails from the crib. Look that up. She looks just like her. And then we talk about the fight that happened this weekend between Jake Paul and Ben Askren. Then we got into answering the questions. Here's the first one.

This person says, how do you deal with stress in your life that's causing hormonal imbalances, even when you eat right, exercise, and get good sleep. So we give some tips there. The next question. This person says, how do you handle your mindset after you get a bad injury? They're having some fears with heavy squats because apparently the last time they squatted heavy, they hurt their back. So we give some tips there. The third question, this person wants to know how to improve their grip strength.

And then the final question, this person wanted us to talk about the recent debate on social media about range and mode of motion. So in other words, some people are arguing that you don't need full range of motion for best results. And we were arguing that full range of motion is superior. Also huge promotion going on right now because summer is coming up. Maps and a ballac is 50% off when our most popular workout programs and the shredded summer bundle is 50% off. That bundle, by the way, includes maps aesthetic, maps prime, maps it

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It is. Fantastic. Yeah, it looks like he, you know when you go, you know when you were a kid and you go get your haircut and then they have those magazines that you're gonna look at and give you a lollipop. And they did, huh? They did give you a lollipop. That was good.

Dumb Dums. Yeah. I love dumb Dums. I don't know what you did. You shot a phone with your shirt just. Yeah, what happened right there? Did I? Some of the Justin did.

It's back. Oh, it's back. It's back. My ears are back. Dumb Dums was the lollipops that they give out. But anyway, you know the magazines that were in the blow pops. Of course you do It's good. It has bubble gum in the wall. That's not what you like. Yeah They're bigger. Obviously the dumb dums are small, but dumb dums get the best flavors on the size queen. Dumb What is your root beer? Yeah, root beer. Dumb dumb. I don't know any other company makes a Rupier flavor in a lollipop. You know, the Ollipop drink actually reminds me of that reader.

It does. Doesn't it taste just like, it does. Maybe that's what's on your mind. I think you're onto something there. Yeah, and the difference is Ollipops, good for your gut. That's right. It is. It really is, I don't know.

Dump, dums, knock, knock. Dums are a dumb, dumb idea. Yeah, they're not, anyway, you know the magazines that you would read as a kid, or not read, but you've been, there's like haircut magazines, and they're always like, cool, you know? That's Justin right now. Yeah, well, you know what I always wanted?

But they, they, have you ever seen that flat top that had like the fenders, you know, that kind of like went up like this? Did I? That was the, flat top, right? Of the 80s and early 90s. I've never seen anybody ever in life rock one of those. You never had a PE teacher?

Yeah, but you had like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the have one in my back pocket. Did you have a switchblade comb? Yeah, I knew it. I did. I knew it. Oh, yeah, dude. Okay. I had like my cuffed pants and I went through a rockabilly phase. I know you guys probably didn't know that. I guess we did. We saw the picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like sales. Your my space still exists. Yeah. What? Dude, my space doesn't exist anymore. That's the thing. It's like a purple belt. My purple belt. I went through a thing. Did you guys know I had a purple belt? Yeah. I mean, now that you mentioned it, yeah. So I had, so check this out, right?

So flat tops was like for whatever reason, everybody had a flat top back in the day. And like, my cousin went, they look too, yeah, no, they don't look good anymore, I think. But back in the, I think you're wrong. My cousin went to get one and he told the lady, he wanted it real short. Like, no, I think. But back in the... I think you're wrong. My cousin went to get one, and he told the lady he wanted it real short. Like, no, I want a short.

I want a tight short. He was a kid, it was like 12. Right. They went so short, they started here, they went so short that his head poked out the top a little bit. So, is he dead? Yes, dude, so he had a flat top,

but a little bit of his domes stuck out the top. It was the greatest thing ever. We went to a family party and my, what happened, your hair dude? It couldn't happen. That's right, I'm regretting. He went too short on the flat top. Oh man.

And he had a little bit of the dome popping out the side. I have an interesting one for you guys. So you remember we were talking about the burger din at Denny's. So I think I mentioned that I get someone DM me when they were actually on and they're like, oh my goodness, I got another message regarding these and they're called cloud kitchens. And this is this guy was speculating on this is the future of what we're

going to see with kitchens now where people like Denys will actually lease out their space to other like start up stuff. And so they just use the kitchen and then they get short order cook, you just like cook whatever. Right. And demand because, yeah, because the whole door dash Uber eats, that's going to open up so many opportunities. Isn't that interesting?

You think about all the opportunities. You let's say you're somebody that likes to cook. You really want to maybe own a restaurant at the cost of opening a restaurant, the footprint, that whatever, the capital. But now a door dash and with so many people ordering food, all you have to do is lease. So now I was just gonna elevate like cooks instead of the actual restaurant brand.

Like it's so, you're gonna follow certain cooks because they can cook you. I don't know, I didn't think about that, but what I thought right away, that I thought I'm already gonna look into it. Are you gonna do Mexican food? No. Really?

No, what I'm thinking is that, think about if you actually either bought or leased the kitchen yourself, like a actual commercial kitchen, and then you sub-leased it to all these. Absolutely. I mean, it could turn into like a little business model. Yeah, because aren't there like regulations

on the kitchens themselves? Oh, yeah, so if one's already set up. Exactly, you got it. And that's the expensive part, is getting it all certified, right? You went through that when you were getting ready to get in the meal service, didn't you? Oh my God, I know, I'm so glad I didn't do that.

Wait, I didn't know that. Yeah, dude, I was gonna get a gym. So the concept was basically, I would train like a small gym where I'd have clients come in, but then on their way out, they could get their meals for the week and I had a chef and everything that was like good at making all these healthy meals and prepackage and all that.

And so it was like, it sounded like a good idea, but then I was like, you're gonna smell all the food and everything while you're working out the entire time. Like there was just a lot of things that I had to consider. Plus the cost of it was just outrageous. Yeah, I think of it like the t-shirt business. It's just the margins are terrible. Everybody you see people doing it,

those are popping up everywhere, right? They're super popular, the whole, the flex zone meals and all these companies that are popping up. But man, they sell you those little meals for six to nine bucks. And I mean, you get their margins, like 10%, 15%. It's not good at all.

I mean, maybe more than 10%. But I would say like 30 maybe, not very much. I mean, the meal, and then you figure, it's only costing $9. So the meals, $9, your margins are small, and then the actual dollar amounts. So the amount of volume that you have to do. That's a tough business.

It's not a big profit there. Yeah, I like the idea of like all the cart, right? So doing it with something else, I actually really liked your idea because that wouldn't be your main source of income. It would be training, closet, accessory. Yeah. So do you know how they got around some of those,

I guess laws, regulations about kitchens and cooking. So there was this app, I don't know if it still exists, but let's say, I have a place in the popular city, San Francisco, New York City. And I wanna make some money off of making people meals. But in order to do that, I have to list myself as a restaurant, I have to pay all these fees, I have to get approved and whatever,

and I don't wanna do all that. They had an app that you could go on and just eat over people's houses and experience a home cook meal, and you would still make money off of it. It's like one of those sharing apps or whatever. And people were doing this. This was going on when we first started.

Is that still happening? As far as I know, I don't know anybody that's done it recently, but I forget the name of it, but it's, yeah, it's just like those shares, and it's been going for at least four or five years. It's really, really smart. If you like to cook for other people and you can get like a really, really good meal

for a reasonable price, no, I think it's a really good. And you wanna meet people and make friends or whatever? Yeah. That seems like a fun idea. Speaking of food, I know this episode drops on a national weed holiday, right? It's a 420 over half. That's today by the way.

Shame we're sober. Did we ever, I know. Did we ever figure out? Cloud in here. By the way, why it was named 420, but it was the legend. No, there's, isn't it just off of like some, like some officers code? Grateful dead.

There's been a lot of things that have been speculated on no proof of it. I've never seen any like real, real proof, but you talk, we got a 420 over here. Like I don't know if that was like code for them, like bustin' somebody with a paraphernalia. Well, I mean, it's never been so close to being legalized federally.

I mean, they're actually talking about it right now, maybe passing some regulations or whatever that allow it to be federally. I mean, they're actually talking about it right now, maybe passing some regulations or whatever that allow it to be federally legal. This is really, yes, dude. I mean, look how many states have now legalized it, not just medically, but- New York is a big one, right? Yes, recreational in a lot of these places.

Do you have crazy this is for someone like us, for guys like us, where I remember the days where you had a joint in the car, called Drives By, you are shitting your pants. No difference between that and like cocaine, whatever it was. It was a big deal. But now it's like not that big of a deal,

and then of course all the studies on the benefits and all that stuff with all the other cannabinoids. You have companies like Ned, which is hemp oil, which is now you could of course sell. But when you get these full extracts of hemp oil, you're getting a lot of the other cannabinoids. You take a good dose of that and you feel, now it's not like smoking a joint,

but you feel, you really feel it. You actually take it and you feel it and that's totally legal. 100%. Speaking of drugs, did you guys watch that documentary on Amazon, the bodies, it was called bodies, the body, body, body lies, body.

Something with body. Yeah, do you remember when you look it up for me? Doug it's on Amazon is that the one you showed us? Yes, that was crazy. Yes, that was crazy. The numbers on that are insane and that's it's this is a ever since so Obama passed Something that this isn't the affordable care act. Yeah, you do know it because explain it you're better remembering stuff So so according it was based off what I saw, because I only watched about 40 minutes, the Affordable Care Act made it so that employers or insurance, I should say, covered drug treatment brokers. So like if you're addicted to drugs or whatever,

you need treatment for alcoholism, whatever, insurance now covers this, called body brokers. Insurance covers this. So the way it works, and this is what's great great so this particular documentary was part dramatized right so it starts off and these two kids are Drug addicts very very sad and they run into this guy and he's like look I used to be in your same shoes I can help you out whatever the guy is interested. He gets he flies to this Drug treatment center in California right on the beach. Yeah, he gets to this drug treatment center in California, right, on the beach. Yeah.

He gets this drug treatment all covered, all paid for because there's a, I apparently use a loophole where they can have another insurance company pay for it, then to keep them there because the success rate's less than 10%. To keep them there, because this guy who's a broker, who's finding people to send to these treatment centers, he makes a cut, then they start paying a percentage of their cut to these people to just keep going through and structure it. I love this.

This is such a scam, it's crazy. Oh, the documentary, that's what I love, by the way, I don't want to get, make that clear that I don't think, I think this is a good thing, I think it's a really bad thing. And I also think it's what gives capitalism a really bad name, because here's an example of it looks like capitalism because all these people are starting up these homes or whatever.

But if it wasn't for that law, that's being passed. That requires these companies to pay, or opens up the door for this kind of shenanigans. Exactly. Each patient is worth $300,000 every 90 days. That is insane. And here's a crazier, even crazier stat that came up in the show. patient is worth $300,000 every 90 days. Yeah. That is insane. And here's a crazier, even crazier stat

that came up in the shelf. And they were showing how many of these facilities were popping up. Everywhere. Exploding. It's like just in the KLA, it was insane. Bro, it's a cash cow. It's like if you open one up, you're guaranteed

to get a bunch of money from either the state or these companies that are required to pay for. Oh, yeah. No brainer. Yeah, no. I think they said the success rate is less than 10%. So 90 something plus percent of these people are just coming back. And that's what was really shady about all of it

is it was this hustle to, they go through the whole 90 day process and they're billing insurance companies, $300,000 for all the amenities and things they give them. And then they kick them out, you know, oh, you're done with your 90 day, you're sober now, knowing that 90 plus percent of those people are coming right back. They're right back and receive the same treatment and the whole thing all over again just to get paid. Well, not only that, but they're incentivized because then they pay them. Hey, if you come back, I, you know, I make whatever, $20,000, I'll give you $10,000.

So now you're living for free in this place that feeds you whatever you're on the beach and you're getting paid to do it. So it's like, Now, where you guys aware of, I see what blew me away was that I was completely unaware of this as a hustle. I have no idea it existed.

Yeah, I had no idea. That was so fascinating about it. And it's been going on now for what? How many years now? Almost eight. Yeah. I just remember all those shows were happening at the same time, right?

The celebrity rehab and then all these rehab reality shows were going on at the same time. I'm wondering if that's another way that they're trying to market their facility. Well, you know, this might, okay, so based off what I've read, the these protocols on getting people off of drugs, off of, you know, being addicted, is it's all, a lot of them focus on the physical

withdrawal and physical addiction. So in other words, they bring you in, they detox you, you talk to a counselor, whatever, but here's the problem, whatever got you to do those drugs in the first place, if you don't fix that, that's why the success rate's so terrible. If you're not fixing that you have shitty relationships with people that you have this type of depression

or whatever, you feel, you know, you have this horrible self-image, that's still with you. And if you don't figure out a more effective, meaningful way of dealing with that, that's more effective than drugs. This is the same issue that we deal with you. And if you don't figure out a more effective meaningful way of dealing with that, that's more effective than the rest. This is a similar issue that we deal with obesity. So it's the same thing. And all these gimmicks and stuff that pop up to get

these quick fixes and give people all this emotion that they're working so hard and doing this completely ignoring what got them in that situation in the first place. And it's why we continue to see the turnover on people. We don't have a problem, no problem, right? We don't have a problem with losing weight, it's keeping it off. Every year, millions of people lose hundreds

and thousands of pounds total, right? But what ends up happening is they put it right back on because they never address the root cause. Yeah, whatever the feelings are that you have that drive you and they can range, right? The feelings can range from anxiety, depression to, you know, even just bad relationships with happiness, maybe elation or impulsive behaviors, whatever. If those feelings, the roots of those feelings aren't dealt with and you don't find a substitute

or a way to deal with them other than the food, then what ends up happening is you just feel terrible. So yeah, you've lost weight, motivation's gone now, you. Then when it ends up happening, you just feel terrible. So yeah, you've lost weight, motivation's gone now, you did it, you lost 30 pounds, you lost 50 pounds, whatever. Now you're in this place, you're actually back where you were before, just maybe a lighter version of yourself, but now you still feel those feelings

and now you have to deal with those feelings and the way I dealt with those feelings before was with food. Now I don't have any tools. What do I do? I got these feelings. I don't know. It was substituted with something.

And there's only so long that you can muster it out or have the discipline or whatever you want to call it, not even discipline, because that's the skill, but rather just kind of trading through it. At some point, you end up giving in. That's why it's very important to do it the right way to find the right relationships with these things and find ways of dealing with it. Otherwise, it's just this hamster wheel cycle that you end up getting stuck in.

Anyway, I read something really cool. You want some tech news, some cool tech news? Throw it down. So I got to see where this was. I think it was in Shanghai. Let me look up. I have the picture here. While you're looking up tech stuff, there is Amazon. Have you guys seen Halo yet?

No, what is it? Pull it up, Doug. I just hit me a commercial. So I haven't, so, you know, I didn't do a lot of digging yet, so I don't know a lot about it, but this is Amazon's new fitness weight loss tool. So they do. So it's tracker or? Yeah, it's a 3D, so it's sick. It actually looks pretty cool. So it looks like it shoots an image of you and then tracks your go Amazon,

hey, yeah, there it is, right there, the 3D scan. Oh, so basically our idea a long time ago. Yeah, no, that's why I thought you would, I thought maybe you would- They stole it. This is very similar to what Justin and I, do you still have those original? I have those renderings, yeah. Do you really? Oh, it. This is very similar to what Justin and I, do you still have those original...

I have those renderings, yeah. Do you really? Oh, it would be fun to share that. If you could share that with the audience. Maybe I'll give that to Andrew and he'll put it all out. Yeah, that would be cool because we did it so long ago and you see Amazon just show you how brilliant Justin and I are. Yeah, so I mean Amazon.

We're just way ahead of the curve. So you get this, it does all these measurements. It says it measures sleep, activity, body composition, tone of voice, which is very interesting. It makes it an image of you, a 3D image of you, and it shows you what's happening. You know, this is, this, okay, I hate to sound like, you know, it's not going to work, but this, it doesn't address the real problem at all. Okay, great, you got more information. Yeah. What's the hell is that? How's that gonna help people? I have a different feeling about stuff like this

than I do when we got into the heated discussion about like, tonal, yeah, tonal and OTF and stuff. This type of thing I like, right? So I love where this is at. Like, I mean, we all remember when we first started, like you had books and it was all a notepad and long form trying to figure out all these things. Everything was numbers or you're trying to get through

and get all these real tangible metrics. At least this is a visual mess. Yeah, but I feel like this is gonna be valuable to the people who would be willing to do that, who are willing to write things down and track things. I agree. I don't think it's gonna help. I mean I agree. I don't think it's going to help. I mean, again, I don't think it's the answer, but I do think that we're getting closer

and closer to helping the average person. I mean, do you guys not think that Fitbit, my fitness pal and fat secret, those types of apps are not useful tools? I find them extremely useful. I do. I think they're useful tools, but I think that they're still, it's focusing on that 20% of people who are going to use things and want awareness. Yeah, but yes and no, right? Because I'm agreeing with you that it's not addressing, again,

the what got these people here, right? It's not the magic pill. It's not revolutionary. It's not anything like that. But as a tool to help a person get to that place or a coach to use that with the client, I think it's brilliant. For a coach drink, I think it's extremely useful. Yeah, that's a good point. If it's combined with a good coach, because look, okay, we know that again, my fitness pal and, you know, fat secret and tools like the Fitbit, these tools, okay, are not that great as far as solving the obesity up thing. But I mean, how much do you guys like those tools as coaches? I mean, I use them like crazy.

Well, I could see that you, if you have access to it and your clients wearing this thing, you could watch them. Well, that's the thing. I like the sensor aspect of it that maybe they don't have to check in all the time, but to use a coach can see their progress and alter just little things to help them get closer towards the right path. I think that something like this with a visual is very helpful sometimes for people that they need that self-awareness that they're not really looking for certain things, like

how that's going to affect their body. They don't really like understand it all completely. If you just show something a little more simplified that's like a visual, I think it does help. But if you're working with a coach, that's the, that's the many course. Yeah, that's the one. It's like the therapy. Because now the coach has got a tool plus you're working with a real person and they're kind of guiding you the whole time. So speaking of the tech that I was bringing up, Doug, I texted a picture to you, maybe you could pull it up.

So in Shanghai, they displayed a QR code in the sky and people could scan it and then look at the ad. So there's literally a picture enough that could pull it up. So on your way out to my place, I don't know if you guys saw this, but I saw that on a billboard. So it was on the billboard. Yeah, huge on the billboard. Oh no, this is in the sky.

Well, I know that's even cooler. This is in the sky. The same concept though, right? Yes. And then it gives you the ad. Yeah, yeah, no, Doug's gonna pull it up here. But literally it was, they displayed it like a hologram. There it is.

Can you see that in the middle? That QR code. My God. So just in the sky. So literally you just look up and, oh, what's that? And you scan it and boom, it tells you what the hell's going on.

That wasn't Shanghai. Wow. Insane as that. Dude, so that, okay, I wasn't gonna bring something, but this is definitely goes right in line with my theory for all the alien, the UFO sightings, all this stuff.

Okay. So raise yourself. Okay, raise yourself. Yeah, because, okay, so we're getting all these actual visuals that where it doesn't make any sense about how fast it moves. All of a sudden it's over here, it defies all the gravitational forces,

all the physics and everything else, right? So, what does that the best that you can think of? Just in what we know. QR codes. No. Light. Oh, okay. So if I have a flashlight, right? And I just, I move it really quickly like that.

Like it looks just like what these UFOs movements are like. So my thought is that it's more like a hologram. It's more something that they're projecting, you know, out there. Yeah, just to fuck with us. Hmm. That could actually be, I mean, I'm trying to keep bringing it back into tangible things that we already know.

That could very easily, that it's like magician bullshit. That could easily fool us. Yeah, that could totally easily fool us. I like this. Speaking of which, speaking of which, I hate to say it, but we all know Alex Jones, right? Ah, you know, the frogs are whatever. Yeah.

Alex Jones, right, conspiracy theory guy. Okay. Fuck, he was right again, dude. Did you hear what they did? No, no, no the frogs or whatever. Yeah. Alex Jones, right, conspiracy theory guy, okay. Yeah. Fuck, he was right again, dude. Did you hear what they did? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no the US and the US. I think so. They took humans and monkeys and made a freaking cross between the two embryo. And the justification is this is so they can take organs from that and use as, right?

The justification is like you see if they could do it. I thought that's the way it was. I know, but I saw that article, right? It was, they were talking about that. And that was the, that's the purpose of this, right? Yeah, no, it's right here. Researchers have inject, here we go. They've not seen planet of the apes. I mean, right yeah no it's right here uh... researchers have inject here we got a nice plan of the apes i mean it's that's so i'm no this

is investigators in china and the unit united states oh not great when we work together we do crazy should read yet let's learn from their science look at this researches have injected human stem cells into primate embryos and we're able to grow hemeric embryos for significant period of time up to 20 days. They grew in embryo for almost a month. That was a monkey human embryo.

And you know who was talking about this about, I don't know, eight years ago. And everybody made fun of them. Alex Jones. Yeah. That dude, are you kidding me? So explain to me why only 20 days, like why didn't they keep going? What was it? I'm sure after a certain point, they're like like we better stop otherwise we'll definitely get some heat

But that's what they told us I mean I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make one last just some little mutant creature Yeah, we want a human with monkey strength You know or whatever we want to do not need that no we don't No, there's no justification for that. No, I know this again I'm telling you it's a bunch of scientists and the really smart and bored and they're like, let's, what can we do? Do you see that the joint US-US scientist team? Interesting.

Oh, China, US scientist team, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Let's keep doing amoral science. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I'm waiting for the team. I'm waiting for the monkey, you know, army. Yeah.

Unstoppable. Well, since we're talking about animals, I have something for the team. I'm waiting for the monkey, you know, army. Yeah, unstoppable. Well, since we're talking about animals, I have something for you guys that, and it's also 420, so I have homework for you guys to smoke some weed tonight or tomorrow. Done, check. And do you guys have Apple TV? Yeah, okay, so have you seen,

I think it's called After Dark? It's like, it's basically like, Jason Momoa, is that one? Oh, that's C. No, no, no, this is like Apple TV's version of the Discovery Channel, like the whole animal planet and everything. Oh, this is, yes, dude, this is when everything is dark

and then you look at the animals. Yeah, so they have these, they have these low light cameras that allow you to view all these animals at nighttime. And we've never been able to do that to this clearly, right? So it actually the low light cameras show all in color at nighttime. Super wild. And we're watching all this. All these.

So you got high and watch this. Oh, yeah. So good. It kind of freaks you out because there's so much activity. Yeah. And we're like like just sleep and just Dude, the Jaguars are ready to kill us. Yeah, the first one they followed around a Pack of lions and they were like man We we knew that they were active at night. They didn't realize how active they were at night until this this whole show

They have incredible vision in at night. We're Blind at night compared to some of these animals. Yeah. That's why we go to sleeping caves. Yeah. You know what I mean? We got to go hide ourselves. If you guys haven't watched it, it's worth a watch even sober, but I think with a holiday here and everything. Oh, and I feel like... Dude, I got to tell you guys a hilarious story this morning. So I know you guys know I have my daughter's 11. She's about to turn 12, you know, this year. And so she's starting to act a little bit more like a teenager, what does that mean?

Well, it means that when she wakes up in the morning, you don't know where you're gonna get. You're gonna get happy girl. Or you're gonna get moody as fuck. Girl, who knows, right? I don't know. So it's a bit of a toss up. Anyway, this morning was moody girl.

So she woke up, angry, hey honey, would you like some breakfast? And she answers me literally by grunting. I don't know what the hell that means. Okay, you get nothing or whatever. So we're doing this whole dance all morning, right? Where she's kind of moody. And I'm like, whatever, have your space, you know, that's fine. That'll be good. We get in the car. And she's like, she's got her, I mean, she looks like she needs another 10 hours of sleep. She's like this. We get in the car. And my phone automatically syncs up to my car when I turn on the car.

Now this morning, this morning I worked out at 5.30 AM and I lifted, I had to train hard and heavy. This could have been really bad. Oh no, I had to train hard and heavy and to motivate myself but whatever. So I get in the car and I did not know this but my the stereo was on and it was on loud and I had sepultera

Judd bro we pull out the garage and she's like and then the music all of a sudden That'll shake out any kind of you know funk Bro, somebody sent the look at her face dude. I was like good morning. Oh my god. How pissed was she? Oh, she was so bad So it's speaking of kids, so okay, I don't know who you guys are in your relationship. With Katrina and I, I'm the one who like, was always encouraging Max to like, run naked and free.

Like, let him be naked. He wants to be naked, let him run around. She's like, no, no, she's gonna put a diaper on him, put a diaper on him. And so, this weekend, he was pretty much mostly with me, right? So, yeah, this is when dad breaks the rules, right? So, mom's got all these strict rules about nudity and everything like that, not too much.

It's not that she won't let him be naked. I'm like, let him roam, for as long as he wants to, and then eventually, especially if he's like somewhere like outside, whatever, right? So, this is like an ongoing thing. Well, she's laying down this weekend, and I've got him, and you know, I just,

he just went to the bathroom, so I changed his diaper, and as soon as I take it off, he's shot up to run around, and I'm letting him kind of run around, so that's what he's in. He's sort of laughing. He's, yeah, he is. He's laughing, he's having a blast, because he knows he doesn't get to do this

in the house very often, and he's in the living room. So I walk around the corner to throw away the diaper and the diaper genie and I come walking back and literally he's like this He's got he's got one hand on his hip He's just picking up his he's just pissing on the floor dude I'm like, of course you did dude of course you do that I was in your camp I know I know I know I know it's like god damn it. That did you tell a good trainer? She can find out from the I told her I told her so because I of course she's right right so we're good about telling each other when the other One's rather alright. Good thing. It wasn't a poop. I just that well

He just had went some like that what are the chances he's gonna go again right now He just went right so I should be good. You know how it is when you change your diaper like what something about the air It just triggers more of you. I guess, every time. I mean, I just died, though, the stance and everything. He's got a hand on his hip, and he's just like, like an old man. Yeah, he's pissing all over my car,

making a wist. Nobody can still take a tree and just pee outside. I can't stop him. Yeah, that's just like, just please, just, you know, don't lay me. I'm sure you don't want to talk. I do too. Yeah, so I'm right at that with him. My buddy's kid, please, just, you know, don't lay me. I'm sure you don't want to talk. I do too. Yeah.

How far can you- I'm right at that with him. My buddy's kid did that. And he was learning how to like make letters and stuff. And so he goes around the corner. And his kid is trying to draw with his pee in the carpet. He's like, oh no! Mom's gonna kill us all!

Oh, yeah. I love that. So that's good. So there's definitely things that he gets to do with you that it doesn't get to do with mom and vice versa. What about her? Did she have them do stuff that you? I mean, I think Katrina's probably,

and here's the thing, and I tell her that, like, because we don't disagree on those things. It's just like, you know, I told you the day she was doing something that, again, okay, so here's another one, right? I'm watching him. Katrina has, you know, she's built the structure. Like, this is what time he eats,

this is what time he naps, this is what time we bathe, this is like, when he's with dad, you know, we kind of break those rules. Now, what I tell her is that, you know, it's this is me getting to have fun with him and just letting him be loose. I would never not want her to run the show like that.

Like, I love that he's- And you're not trying to undermine her? Totally not. No, it the show like that. Like I love that he's... And you're not trying to undermine her? Totally not. No, it's not like that. I'm just a little more free with it. Like he's with me. I, it's time to eat and we're like playing and I'm like feeding him why we play.

Versus she's like, okay, it's time to have lunch. Let's sit down and she gets him as high a chair and it's like an event, which I appreciate and love. But then, you know, I break some of those rules. So I'm probably the one who breaks the rules or does things that she probably wouldn't agree with. I don't think she is. You'd have to ask her that if there's something

that she does. She doesn't tell you. Yeah, I know. I'm trying to think right now, what are there certain things that- Cornie usually takes them to eat at places I would never go. You know, whenever we're gone, especially the treat thing, like taking them to get ice cream, I never do go. Whenever we're gone, especially the treat thing,

taking them to get ice cream, I never do that. I feel bad, but I've never done that. I never even think of that. I always tend to take places that are dangerous. I'll let them go climb on these trees that are way too tall and they go way up there. Until I all of a sudden get nervous because I had the very top.

He died, check me out. Oh my God, get down. Oh my god. How did this happen? That's all right. I just let it happen. So yeah, that's one thing. I tend to flirt a little bit more with having them

really go for it. I think it's good, right? To have a little bit like that. So long as it's not. It's not, if you're not undermining the other person, it's totally fine. Because mom and dad or whatever parents, there's different personalities.

The kid will get something from each. You can't be the exact same. That doesn't make any sense. There's got to be a little bit, gass and breaks if you want to call it balance. That makes sense. Yeah, the baby, he is, because we kiss him a lot.

We're very touchy-fuely family, right? So everybody's hugging and kissing all the time. So he tries to do to kiss, he doesn't know how, but he goes up to Jessica and he opens his mouth and just puts his mouth on her face or he'll like, like, you know, whatever, right? And he just loves doing it. Doesn't do it to me because I got the beard,

but yesterday was warm outside. So I went for a walk with him and I'm holding the number whatever and I had my shirt off. Some people still kiss like that. Just, yeah. That's sick's what's wrong with those people. So I'm holding him and I have my shirt off and I can see that he wants to

and then he kind of feels that my shoulder's like bear. So then he does, he goes like this to my shoulder and he goes and then he goes. And then he goes. No, it doesn't taste good. It doesn't taste like mom and dad. Dad's skin is not like mama's skin. I got a hair in there.

It was hilarious. The face he day was like, oh, that's not the same as mom. Mom's the good one. She's the delicious one. She smells good. You don't want to try to kiss my bear skin. It doesn't taste good. Anyway, Justin, that article you sent,

that study you sent me over the weekend. Really, really cool. What did you send him and not me? You don't like this kind of thing. It was about grips and the benefits, cognitive benefits of grip training. Yes, no what they were doing. It's not the ones that you've talked about

because you've talked about this for a while. No, this is another one. And what they're showing, actually this obviously, we've talked about this before but not the study. But we've talked about how if you're at work, one of the best things you could do to increase your cognitive performance is move, get up and do some kind of exercise.

Trigger sessions, like we talk about in Maps and Obaloc. I noticed that. When I would trigger sessions throughout the day, I was my performance at work, my mental performance, which much better. If I felt a little tired, go do a five minute, trigger session with bands or whatever, I come back and I'd be sharp.

Well anyway, in this study, all they did was have people squeeze their grip. So they would take a gripper, they'd squeeze their grip for a little bit, and they tested their cognitive performance. They were faster, they retained memory much better, so they have much better memory retention, better verbal fluency.

So based off of just doing the gripper or if they were high on that what I mean what's Consistency of using it. Oh, yeah, okay. Got it. So just by the compared to people who didn't do that the people who did some just Even minor physical exertion had better cognitive performance What was the the duration of it was it like right away? Or was it over weeks of consistently right away? Oh right away And they link into it. Oh, interesting. It's a central nervous system.

You're CNS, you're turning it on. It's going to fire more effectively. And you know, what's a big part of your message of brain? I wonder how much if that's similar to, if you could, if case, say, let's say somebody did just the hand gripper, right? For those purposes. But then you had somebody else who strength trained like traditional squatting dead,, things like that,

if you would get a similar response from that. I would imagine, but I would also imagine, there's a, at some point, there's diminishing returns. If you exhaust the shit out of yourself, you're probably not gonna get that boost. So really what you're doing is you're not getting a crazy workout is you're just turning the system. I would associate it a little bit more

with isometric training, like that would be sort of another, like good pair for something to get those types of benefits, which is really what brought me to that study because one of my friends, Ryan Glatt, he does like all brain training and all cognitive performance type of training. And so he was actually experimenting with axon for a while for me and he sent me that article and there's been a few about isometric training in general because of that fact that

you don't get like super fatigued from it, but you are training your central nervous system. And so you get a lot of cognitive benefits as a result. You can test this out yourself. If you're, if you ever get to the point where you're at school, you're at work and you just feel like, oh my god, I'm getting tired or I feel like my brain is stuck. Tense up your whole body for 15 seconds. Just try that, just squeeze your whole body for 10 to 15 seconds, relax.

Immediately you'll notice a little boost in cognitive performance, just from doing something like that. Now speaking of workouts, I know we, there was a recent Q&A episode where we were talking about going to failure and we typically advise people don't go to failure. But I think the occasional, occasional, dare I say, rare use of failure can be beneficial. So I've been doing this. I'll do this once, maybe twice a year, with my training. So what I do essentially, because I've had people DM me and say, okay, can you highlight when this might be beneficial or why?

It's so here's how I do it. I take my total training volume and I cut it down by two thirds So I take it way down, right? So if I'm going to do Nine sets for a body part now I'm only doing three and the three sets are to failure and typically I'll pick three different exercises I do this for a very short period four weeks or so so. What I notice from it, or a couple different things, one, and this is the bigger benefit, believe it or not, is it helps me recalibrate my understanding of what failure is for myself, because here's what I notice. When I do this once or twice a year, when I'm doing a hard, especially a hard exercise, like squats or overhead presses,

when I think I only have two reps left, I actually have four to five, because now I'm actually training to failure. So what it does, it helps me recalibrate my intensity gauge. Oh, I thought I only had two, but I actually did four or five more reps. So that's number one. And then number two, in that short period of time,

the reduced volume increase intensity, I always notice I get a little bit of gains from doing something like that. So I think it's something... Well, that's interesting because that's not very often at all. So I'm like once a month, I would say, out in there. Is that too frequent, you think? I don't do it that much because failure gives me some benefits, but boy, it is at last, a short period of time.

Then it's gone. And I don't get any more benefits. I mean, I think the real message is to not get, because what happens is you train to failure, you see new PRs and new numbers, and then you get hooked in that, right? If wanting to keep doing it. So, I typically would do it once a month,

just to do exactly what you said, just to kind of see where I'm at, like if I was making, especially if I'm making good progress. Right? If I'm training and dieting really consistently, like I like to kind of re-measure, kind of see where I'm at, like once a month and then, you know, so I'm recalibrated for the following month. Yeah, so like, instead of doing three exercises,

for example, for chest, and all three of them, I'm doing three working sets. I'm doing the same three exercises, one working set each, and it's that one set to failure. So the volume is way down. Yeah. But I think it's focused on the intensity of that. Yes, yes.

Again, speaking of training, I showed Justin, I have to give this Instagram page a shout out. It's one of the best ones I've found a long time. Jailhouse strong. What a great Instagram. Bunch of bad asses on there. Really? Oh, bro, this page, they highlight, like,

well, maybe Doug could pull it up, but it's on Instagram, it's called Jailhouse Strong. I think it's the name of it. They will show like old school strength athletes from all over the world, there's this one post of these strength athletes from India in the 1800s, you know, these wrestlers, they were showing like, yeah, at least like in some of these pictures.

Yeah, oh, yeah, I want to mic Tyson's neck. You know, big his neck was, it was something like 20 inches around. It was ridiculous. Yeah, scroll down, keep scrolling down, Doug. I want to show, there's a picture of a guy named Don Youngblood who's probably the most alpha-looking picture I've ever seen in my entire life.

And believe me, as soon as he hits it. Yeah, do the hairy chest. Oh, yeah, no, keep scrolling down, because right there, there's a big, bro. Bro, look at this guy. Is that not the most alpha thing you ever seen in your entire life? down, cause right there, you're just, bro, look at this guy. Is that not the most alpha thing you ever seen your entire life? What is that right there?

He's just like a bouncer, dude. Yeah, yeah. You show up to pick up a girl and that's her dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm gonna leave. Yeah, what's... How big is that dude? He looks huge.

I don't know, but I just... 22 inch, is he neck? Is that a neck? What's that 22 inch? Yeah, 22 inch neck. Wow, Tyson's 20 is big. 22 inch neck is insane.? Is that an equit? So it's 22 inch? Yeah, 22 inch neck. Wow. Tyson's 20 is big. 22 inch neck is insane.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that whole, it just looks like he'd just crush you to a million pieces. Yeah, the whole page has got great stuff and there was one, there was one recent one. Maybe if Doug you scroll up to the top of this further down, this Japanese guy like fighter, I think he was and that right there.

Look at what he's doing right there, part of his training. He's literally- He's literally wrestling a bull. I'm taking him down. What the hell? Yeah, dude. You know, it's funny, so I was with my dad over the weekend, and I was showing him this website

because he loves this kind of stuff. He loves old-school strength stuff. Yeah. And I was telling him, man, I can't believe the younger generation how weak they are and my dad laughs and I'm like, what's so funny? He goes, you guys are weak compared to my generation. And I'm like, oh, I'm like, you're 100% right.

I said, what about you compared to your dad and your grandfather goes, we were weak. He goes, this is the trend. He goes, we get smarter, but we get much weaker. And I was like, oh yeah, I guess you're right. So I don't know my grandkids are gonna be doing. Can we transition over to some controversy? We get smarter but we get down down down, but we get much weaker and I was like, oh yeah, I guess you're right So I don't know my grandkids are gonna be doing can we can we transition over to some controversy? Let's do it because I feel like Doug was like you guys haven't said any controversy throw some in there

Please we not clean I said yeah Controversy please come in with the heat. Don't we need some music for that? So I didn't know I didn't know this I don't know when it was I think it was our our friend Connor I think I saw him talking about this and I wanted wanted to ask you, Saf, you knew him. He's drinking special protein shakes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't see that. So that's what the generation is doing.

The secret ingredient is Jiz. Nancy Pelosi investing in Microsoft. Did you know about that? There's a lot of stuff about her investing in companies right before some kind of little law-regid information. So she wouldn't just invest a little bit. She invested $10 million with her husband into Microsoft literally like weeks before Microsoft

announces it's deal with the Pentagon. Yeah, it's like a $22 billion. Do you know how many times can I? What's gonna happen to her? No. You know how many times she's done that? She's done that with many, many things. We're shilling, invest, and then,

oh, we got to government contract. Oh, we got this new thing that's coming out. She's done that with many, many things. We're shalt invest and then, oh, we got a government contract. Oh, we got this new thing. That's coming out. How is that not insider trading? Of course it is. A hundred percent. Of course it is, dude. But you got to go after them to prove that.

Good luck. And here's a deal. If you're okay, so let's say we're all... Is it really that hard to prove? Somebody that's tied in the government? No, it gets a government deal. No, it's not hard to prove. How, oh, here you go.

Look at all these companies that she did. Wow, there's that many. Yeah. So look, she did roadblocks too. Yeah, so imagine this, right? We're all politicians and you're, you guys are, you're a Republican. I'm a Democrat. He's, you know, whatever.

We're not in the same party. We don't really care. But all of us make money like this. Am I gonna rat you out? No. Because if I do, I ain't gonna, this is how, this is why. This is why the heat right back on you.

This is why you have these lifetime politicians. First of all, look up the pay. Anybody, what? They only make like a hundred, it's just $100,000 a year. No, I'll do. Look, okay. The public servants.

Look, look it up. If you don't believe me, if you're watching a listening podcast, look up how much you make if you don't believe me if you're watching a listening podcast look up How much you make if you're in Congress you don't make shit not even the president makes a lot the president salaries $400,000 a year which you're the president of U.S. Yeah, you make 400 grand. That's insulting nothing for that right these people make less than 200 grand a year Yet they live in DC when most expensive place in the world and yet you have there it is right there Yeah, yeah, you have some of these, there you go. So Sanders and House Representative's a 174 grand.

Right, look at that. I mean, now, and yet you have some of these lifetime politicians who are worth millions and millions of dollars. That's weird. Yeah. Had they get all that money? Yeah. A lot of it's this kind of weird.

The Koch brothers were behind it. Yeah. So I know, man. That's so dirty, dude. If you look at like, you know the train that they were gonna build here in the California, what was that? The high speed rail.

Yeah, the one that's cost, I don't know how much it's cost now. But they're still even working on it because they just like to spend money on it. Bro, look into the, look into who got the contract and see who they're related to. And then you start to realize why this passed and who's making money off of it.

Wasn't Elon Musk trying to do that? Wasn't he trying to do that? He's trying to do hyperlux. And also like a vacuum tunnel somehow, yeah. I don't know, whatever that is. Speaking of Elon Musk, Doug, can you share that article you sent over? I don't know if these boys write it or not.

You sent over an article on Tesla. Two guys were killed with, they drove, they're self-driving, the self-drive mode or not. You sent over an article on Tesla. Two guys were killed with, they drove, they're self-driving, the self-drive mode or whatever. Yeah, nobody was there in the car, but they were on self-driving mode. Yeah, two older gentlemen got in the car, I believe they said, by their wives, that they were gonna go, they were,

this was the intent, was that, one guy was in the passenger seat, when was the back seat, and they said they're gonna go test out this thing. And they, yeah, they're, what they said was they told their wives, hey, we have information on Epstein and the Clintons and then it's weird.

It's weird. Yeah. So strange at that. That's a real, speaking of crazy, uh, the, the, it was a Jake Paul and, oh my God, I didn't even, I can't believe I'm bringing that up. Yeah.

I can't believe I didn't bring that up. Bro, I just saw the highlights. So you guys didn't pay for the fight. So you guys didn't pay for the fight, right? No, I did. believe I didn't bring that up. Yeah, I can't believe I didn't bring that up. Bro, I just saw the highlights. So you guys didn't pay for the fight. So you guys didn't pay for the fight, right? No, I did. Okay, so I paid for it. I tuned in at six o'clock. Okay, so I'm still learning all this.

So I'm always. This is so different from whatever. It's unbelievably different. So if I get this correct, right, and you check me and my DMs from wrong, Thriller is the name of the company or the promotion that is putting all this stuff on. If I got that right. And this is not the first time they have

other fight promotions. I had a download an app, I think called Fight Club is what I had to download in order to buy this. I couldn't buy it through the, I mean, you could if you have a smart TV and download the app. It's not like, you have to get the app. Yeah, it wasn't on a normal provider like most paper view. So I had to go through this app to do that. They, I mean, they got a ton of money behind this thing. I mean, they're Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, Ice Tea, supermodels, Mario Lopez.

I mean, they had, they had all the... Didn't you say there was like a slap boxing? So they, yes, so they... When they've ever seen that, we just blast each other in the face. Yeah, yeah. So that's, okay, this is, everything that we just blast each other in the face. So that's okay. This is what's interesting to me, right?

It's, I don't know, like obviously they're trying to steal some money from, you know, regular old school boxing promotions, right? To get some of the eyes, right? I think Jake Paul and Ben Askren did like, 1.3 million pay-per-view buys. Yeah. Which by the way ties, what's his name?

Conn Bregrager and Mayweather, I do. Yeah. Yeah. And, of course, we know what happened. The fight, Ascreen got knocked out, which, I mean, Ascreen's a terrible boxer, but that really looks bad for MMA. Well, it does.

Kind of, right? Not to people who know fighting, because you know fighting, you know Ben Ascreen's terrible boxer. Yeah, that's total mismatch, but still. It doesn't matter though. Yeah, I don't know how much K. So I don't know how much effort

he really put into training for it. Like I didn't follow the whole training. I know he did like some funny videos of Rocky. Like he did like, like had some fun with it. He didn't look like he was doing much boxing specific training. Not only that, he didn't look in great shape either. He had like the back fat roll going on still.

He never really does. And he's never looked in great shape. I get that right. So that's not a true test if he did or didn't. But he just didn't seem like he care the much. They did this thing where they actually went behind the scenes like in the locker room before the fight even happened. They were kind of interviewing and talking to him. I mean, he was making fun of the organization just like how unprofessional and terrible it was. He wouldn't even let his kids watch it or anything.

So he was kind of shitting on the whole thing. And he was kind of like laughing about this whole process. So I think he knew he was getting a massive payday. He didn't really care. Now, there's a lot of people that are speculating saying that he took a dive. I, that was not a dive. Not on the other side.

No, no, no, no. That was not it. He went to sleep, bro. He put him to sleep and then he got up. And when he was walking, he was out on sleep. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, There's always a mark and you know how you know because you see this in other countries. In fact, I sent you guys a video from Russia. Russia has weird fights. They have fights with people wearing medieval armor and hitting each other with swords. They had one with this really massive overweight man fighting this girl. One, they have all kinds of crazy stuff.

It's just like carnival kind of. Yes, it's long those lines of like, okay, this is all for entertainment, but it's just like, you don't know what to expect. So, to me, it's not like you're watching it for the sport of it, you're watching it for the free shoot. But that much money though. Yeah, okay. This thing is going to come on.

Okay, so here's what I think might happen. Now, think about, kind of a page out of our own book, right? We came out with some really terrible early on content, like shock and awe, like if we go back, right? If you go back, how hard is it for you guys to listen to something in the first 100 episodes? Bid jazzled. It was, yeah, it was bad, right?

And so maybe that this whole set boxing, billionaire fights, you know, some other dude who stole his girlfriend, you know, Jake Paul, YouTuber fights at MMA. Maybe all of that is to just get the attention on them of like this weird drama. And then with that money and those eyes, maybe they try and elevate their game as far as

how the commentary is and they bring more professional. I mean, because Snoop Dogg was getting people high, bro. On TV, I was like, it's the Jerry Springer boxing, right? That's what it is. There's a market for it. There's, there's definitely a market for it. Obviously. 1.3 million pay-per-view buys. Also, by the way, I got something, I'm going to bring it back to something controversial. You're welcome, Doug. You got people saying it's not fair that a guy like Jake Paul, who's not a professional fighter, makes far more money than most professional fighters. That's not fair. a guy like Jake Paul, who's not a professional fighter, makes far more money than most professional fighters.

That's not fair, he's never trained whatever. He created it. It doesn't matter, the market said he's making that much because that many buyers, same reason why women's basketball for example, will make as much money as men's basketball. As unfair as it sounds, they just don't bring in the money. That's where it all boils down to. Life isn't fair. That's it. So if you want, what you think think is fair to make a lot of money then give your attention

And money to that don't give your money attention to the stuff you don't think is fair that has Did you see all the heat that Tony Jeffries got from it? No, buddy a boxing burn He was you know because he's he's calm. He's been commenting on it and talking about it And he has kind of the same attitude we do. It's that it's fun, you know, whatever like obviously He's not like a real, real serious boxer and you know, it was entertaining and he liked it, but because he was saying positive things and he has a community of all like hardcore real boxer.

Of course. Boy, he took a lot of heat. From the purists and everybody. Yeah, I mean, cause there is, there's a lot of people that, and I understand, right? So I don't want to, like I totally, how much would that sting, right? You've been busting your ass for 10 years

to work up, you know, work up to the professional level as a boxer. Nobody really knows who you are. Here's the deal, you make a decision. Do you wanna be the best boxer or do you wanna make the most money? And sometimes you could do both, but sometimes you do one or the other.

And if you're boring, you're not entertaining, you're not gonna make the most money. If you're very entertaining, like extremely entertaining, and people want to see you fight, even if you suck, you're gonna make a lot of money. Now, here's a deal. I would hate to be as smart as they are media wise. I would hate to be those brothers, the Paul Brothers, because they have such a big target on themselves.

Because now, all you need to do to get a fight with them is to make enough, create enough of a social media beef that people want to see you get your ass kicked or see you kick their ass. Yeah, I'm sure really good fighters, but I'll fight them. I'll fight them and I'm not going to fight you. Nobody cares if I fight a really, really good fighter, but some fighter who like, you know, dates his ex-wife or harasses him. If they do enough of that. They definitely open the door if that's right.

That's right. Well, that's what I think is going to happen with this promote. Now, I don't know if that's the initial move and then pivot into actually being a direct competitor to like boxing or this is, they're just going to, they've obviously found a need in the market because people are spending money to watch them, and maybe they just stay in that lane. Maybe it's just all drama fights. Maybe it's not about, this is the best box in the world, but you want to see that dude, kick that dude's ass, and so we're going to put it together, and then you're going to

pay money to see it. That's definitely happening. I mean, it's here. I don't think it's going away any time soon, but it was terrible. Oh, it was painfully I don't think it's going away anytime soon, but it was terrible. Oh, it was painfully. It was so cringeworthy to listen to the guys and Oscar De LaHoya came on there and he seemed like,

yeah, just, it was so, the guys that were doing the interviewing for the fighters and things like that, they didn't have any sort of fighting knowledge at all. They just try and throw, they threw celebrities and names in there. So, okay, so I think Justin said the best. Yeah, it was just, you know,

but it probably did this in Japan. Now, probably also had good fighters, but they would do stuff like this where they'd have a giant versus a little guy or whatever. Like, there's some entertainment value, but if you push it too hard, in my opinion, it's some point, you're just kind of like, oh, this is gratuitous.

Oh, I mean, it's crazy, the amount of money. I mean, that kind of money, they're gonna, it's crazy the amount of money. It's not going to go away. This Quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance the added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout.

First question is from Kiki Murphy 13. What are some ways you can deal with the inevitable constant stress that is causing hormonal imbalances, even when you eat right, exercise and get adequate sleep? All right, well there's your neck commercial. Yeah, exactly. Actually, no, that's not true. There are things you can use that'll help balance out or help your body deal with stress.

I know we work with a company called Ned that makes hemp oil extract. It's actually the, one of the only ones I actually feel when I take it, and that can help. There's supplements like ashwagandha, ashwagandha can also help. But here's the big rocks. Here's the big thing that's gonna help.

Now this person asked the question, and they mentioned eating right, exercise, and sleep. And then they said, I have a lot of stress, essentially, that's causing hormonal imbalances. Well here's the beauty of a fit and healthy lifestyle. Use it like a tool to optimize your life, whatever's happening in your life. So what does that mean? If your life has a lot of stress at the moment, then you can modify your nutrition, your exercise

and your sleep to help your body deal with that stress. So if you're very stressed out, that means you're probably gonna wanna sleep more. Your workouts are gonna be more focused on mobility, flexibility, feeling good. Your diet is gonna be higher in foods that are nourishing and healthy to the gut, to your digestive system, and to the body. Let's say your life is low stress at the moment.

Things are going great. Well now you can push your workouts. You can push the sleep a little bit and get away with a little less sleep. You can push the diet and bulk or cut aggressively because the rest of your life is allowing for that. So this is how you want to view those things. I've gone through periods of my life

where they were very, very stressful. I'm not going to the gym, trying to hit PRs. I'm not going to the gym, trying to, you know, go beast mode. When I go into the gym, when I'm stressed out, I'm thinking to myself, what can I do to help my body deal with the stress that I'm dealing with at the moment? It usually looks like mobility, lighter movement, flow type movement, things where I'm kind of making myself feel better. I also think there's a lot of value in scheduling like days that are, and whatever it is that you use to decompress. So whether you're a yoga, meditation, you read, go by the ocean, go to the mountains, get a massage, like this is something that Katrina really hacked

in with me early on in our relationship was I can get really, really focused on the business and work. And even though I love what I do, it can become stressful because you got a lot of moving parts, right? And I can always, I put myself off, you know, I'll eventually get to the massage or I'll eventually take a vacation, I'll that. Where she knows me so well that she can feel that coming on even before I think I can feel it coming on. And so she will actually, in the calendar, we'll already put like we're going away, phones are going away,

we're gonna go stay at our favorite place by the ocean and do things like that. Or just in fact, this was just what two, two weeks ago, I came home on Friday and we had a massage therapist at the house ready for me to go. And I didn't even know that I was gonna have a massage. So she'll do things like that to help me decompress, even if I'm not like saying, oh, I'm all stressed out.

So I think either having a person who can support you and do that with you or you making a conscious effort to kind of look at your calendar, ahead of time and go, okay, I need to every so many weeks. And it doesn't have to be expensive either. It can actually just be open space. Right, I know I said things that are probably expensive, like staying at a nice hotel in the beach or doing a massage.

It doesn't have to be that. It can literally be like just go for a long walk, somewhere in nature that you really like, whatever. Just having it though on the books that you're going to go do this and the intent is for you to really kind of let go of all the outside distractions and be present with yourself. But one thing that kind of came to mind for me that I know really helped a lot too was, and I've told some of my clients to kind of do this and to jot down and make a list of

things potentially that were stressing you out. And so having some sort of like an inventory of stress, but really for me it was about eliminating a lot of like the chaos, a lot of the chaos, chaotic elements. So ways that I could get ahead in work or I could accomplish things in a timely manner and address things when I need to address them instead of put them off, that actually was increasing you know, in work, or I could accomplish things in a timely manner and in a dressings when I need to address them instead of put them off,

that actually like was increasing a lot of the stress. That would accumulate and I would carry that with me like throughout the rest of the week. And so to be better about like what Adam's saying in terms of like scheduling myself, yeah, if I schedule that I'm gonna have this day where I'm gonna, I'm gonna walk, I'm gonna get all these types of de-stressing type activities.

I have to be able to have this one window to really hammer out all the needs and to get it done. You just reminded me of something else too, Justin, that sometimes the things that cause like this low level stress or even sometimes high level stress is something that you're not addressing and it just keeps resurfacing. And so I've talked before about like how I used to train myself to be better at self-awareness.

At night time I used to lay in bed and kind of go back in my day and think of all the moments that were ups and downs or in this case we're talking about stress or the time of the times that were I was frustrated or irritated or stressed out, I would go deeper into why I felt that way. Sometimes, it's because you have something underlining that you're not dealing with, and so it's surfacing as work stress or daily life stress. Working and practicing on self-awareness was one of the things that helped me get to the bottom of that.

For example, you're going through your day day and you feel all stressed out at work. Well, what was it exactly that happened at work that made you feel, quote unquote, stressed out, and then unpacking that and being like, well, why does that bother me? Or why is that stress? Let me get to them and secure about the same thing. Exactly. And in fact, 99% of the time, that's exactly what I'd find out. So, there was a deeper rooted insecurity or fear that I had in my life that was surfacing

as stress at work or stress and a relationship or stress in other places. But that wasn't really the root cause of the stress. It was because I kept bearing it and then it would emerge in other parts. By the way, oftentimes, that comes out in physical ways too Right Oftentimes if you're not dealing with some kind of Emotional stress and you're just kind of bearing it. It can it can look like pain back pain injuries You'll often see if you'll hear a massage therapist talk about this

Well, they'll work on someone They'll find a tender area. They'll push it and work on it and then the person will get this emotion Where they'll find a tender area, they'll push it and work on it, and then the person will get this emotion, where they'll start crunching. They're trapping it somewhere in the body, this actually legit can happen. So here's my protocol with stress. I'm gonna give you a little bit more specifics.

Here's what I do. I don't go on a cut, and I don't go on a bulk. I don't go on a cut because when my body's under a lot of stress, cutting your calories below maintenance is an additional stress. I don't wanna add a stress. I also don't want a bulk because I know when I'm stressed that if I try to bulk, that turns into garbage food. It turns into heavily processed food, which isn't going to benefit. So I tend to eat around maintenance. And I also focus on foods that are very easy to digest for me. For me,

that looks like meats, fishes, no fried foods. If I do eat carbohydrates, it's rice. If I do eat vegetables, they're very well cooked so that they're pre-digested. Why? Stress for me affects my gut. It does this for a lot of people. So I focus on that. With my workouts, my intensity is at 50%.

I'm doing full range of motion stuff. I'm doing more stretching. I'm taking my time in my workouts, sleep with sleep, I'm paying more attention to the two hours before I go to bed, blue light blocking glasses, I'm trying to bring my body down, I might take, you know,

Ned sleep or some melatonin, do that before I go to bed to get better sleep. When I do those things, my body's far more resilient to the stress that's happening in my life. When I don't have that stress, then I can push the bulk, the cut, the hard workouts, and less sleep. But if I'm not doing, if I have a lot of stress,

I gotta optimize those. And that's why I said, use them as tools, modify them to optimize your life. Next question is from Lewis Lifts, a little. How do you handle your mindset after coming back from an injury? I strained my lower back a couple weeks ago, I know what I did and didn't do that led to the strain. I also know how to heal it and it's healed.

Now I just need to heal my mindset. Every time I get to 300 plus pounds for my squat, I start to psych myself out. I complete a couple sets and I then get into my own head and stop before I hit my set goal for the day. I think Adam could answer this. He's had a few injuries last. Yeah. You know, here's the thing too, like this idea

that we always have to be increasingly amount of weight. I mean, squatting 300 pounds is phenomenal. I mean, that's for anybody, right? I know there's all kinds of stuff on the internet of this makes you consider you a really strong person or kind of strong. It's like 300 pounds squats good. Yes, exactly.

If you can squat 300 pounds up until your late 60s or 70s for the rest of your life, you're great. Yeah, that's phenomenal. So this idea that we always have to progress back or further or add more weight to the bar, I think that's something that I had to get out of my head, is that, you know, I am wanting to, of course, I want to see progress and I want to add more and I want to add more. And I have to check that sometimes and go like, why though?

Like why? So I could tell the guys, yo, I hit 405 today, like what's the real point of it? Like is it, I'm not competing anymore. You know what I'm saying? Like is it gonna enhance and improve my life anymore? No, not really. So I think this idea of always having to push more weight to prove to whoever or whatever that you're progressing

or you're doing great. I think it's silly and you gotta let go of that. I think that's the first key to healing a mindset like this is the idea that you have to keep pushing beyond it. There's nothing wrong with you sticking out of weight and realizing that, wow, so your weight is that, right? So mine is 400. When I start going over 400, it should happens

because I'm pushing it towards my peak of what I can lift at and all it takes is me to be, you know, a little off that day, or not have the energy and strength that I thought I had going into it. And it puts me at a higher risk. So the higher you go, the higher the risk is, sure, the potential higher reward may be,

but what do you really need that more? Right. Now, I do get what he's saying though, in terms of, so what Adam's saying is that that's the core. That's the core root. Like that's something everybody I think should work on. But I do understand what he's saying in terms of, so what Adam's saying is that's the core, that's the core root. Like that's something everybody I think should work on. But I do understand what he's saying in terms of the mindset because if you've ever injured yourself doing something, let's say you're riding your bike and you fall off and you twist

something where you play basketball and do some hesitancy before you go perform it again. You get the fear, right? There's a little bit of fear. Oh my God, I remember last time I went to do this and boy did I hurt myself really bad. So I totally understand that. Here's how you get around any fear. You have to desensitize yourself to that movement. Now, and that's a slow process.

So if you get fearful at 300 pounds, get really good at squatting 250. Like really, really good. Like perfect, tight, slow form. Get to the point where you could pause at the bottom. Pause halfway up. Get really good, like perfect tight slow form. Get to the point where you could pause at the bottom, pause halfway up, get really good at it. And then add 10 pounds, they get really good at 260. Slowly get yourself back up to where you were before,

but own it, completely own it, and get really, really good at it, each in every single step of the way. And what'll happen, you'll desensitize yourself to the squat and then you'll get over that fear. This is also where I like to load the bar and just hold it and feel the weight. And I know like, I remember I think you brought that up beforehand when you're starting to squat

and the guys would just load, you need to feel the weight. That's Adam. Right. I honestly feel like that provides a valuable feedback that you can control this. You can stabilize in this position. You could feel that all the way down your body, it's not gonna crush you. And so if it's a fear thing, I think the exposure in the different components

of the lift will really help kind of break through that. I like that idea too. And like so something you can do along, set the squat or the safety bars up, right? Yeah, I was just asking. And actually, you know, add 50 pounds over what you could probably do. And just put it down.

And yeah, just go down. Just go as slow as you can, right? And just, but you know, you're gonna roll it. Yeah, your goal is not to come back out of it. In fact, that, that, that highlight something is learning how to dump the bar. That's a skill, actually. A lot of people don't know how to do it properly, or they're and they've never done it before and then when they get pinned, they don't

know how to dump the bar properly and they get hurt. That's actually something you should practice. Get a bar on your back and figure and learn how to dump the bar and also learn when to dump the bar. Like there's a point where you're grinding away up and you're better off just dropping the way. You maybe will get it up if you try to grind it out, but you probably hurt yourself. You start to learn where that point is, and you're like, this isn't it. And you're comfortable dropping. That's how I mean, you guys have probably seen me dump the bar more than anybody. I always, and a lot of times, I could have got it out, but I already feel the breakdown a little bit. And if I feel the breakdown even in the slightest bit, I'm dumping the bar

out of it. I know it's funny. That's bit, I'm dumping the bar. You're not worth it. Yeah. I know it's funny. That's like when I got rid of all training partners, like it was like it because the last time I relied on a training partner, they fucked up. You know, like I almost got really hurt and it's just like it's so much easier to just dump the bar and do that yourself. Oh, you're right, dude.

Like, imagine if this has happened to me too, where I'm under a bar And I want to dump it, but my my partner is behind me trying to help me Yeah, so I got to grind it out with the person behind me. I can't dump it So I would definitely recommend like what you said Adam set the safeties Practice that feeling once you're comfortable failing then you're probably not gonna be as fearful of the bar Next question is from that guy KC how do you improve grip strength? Justin and I are qualified to answer this. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Somebody had a second pass at it, which was interesting. I didn't have a second pass. One time. That's twice. Oh, because that the first time I pulled it out. Oh, because we heard. Yeah, yeah.

180 on the strobe. You want to do it again? Yeah, I do. Just do it. Bring it. All right, so here's a deal with grip strength. So just like anything else, you're 80 on the stroking man. You want to do it again? Yeah, just do it. Bring it. All right, so here's a deal with grip strength. So just like anything else, you could obviously train it. And so I would say, here's the number one thing.

Train it like any other body part. So you have your normal workouts. You hit your chest twice a week. Your shoulder twice a week or three days a week. Work your grip two or three days a week. And there's a few very simple exercises you could do. Now, you can work on the static strength of your grip, which is just a week. And there's a few very simple exercises you can do. Now, you can work on the static strength of your grip, which is just how long you can hold something. And that's

quite easy. You can literally stand holding a pair of heavy dumbbells and hold them in either as long as you can or maybe five seconds before you think you're going to drop it. That's probably a little better. You don't want to necessarily go to failure. So that's one way you can hold it. But there's also varying degrees of static strength, meaning there's a bar, there's that circumference, but you also want to build strength on things that are thicker. So what I like to do, sometimes I'll wrap a towel

around a bar so that it's a thicker grip. Now I'm holding it or I'll pinch grip, where I'll hold a plate just like this with my hands and hold that for grip. So that's for the static strength. What about actual eccentric and concentric strength, well, you can get yourself a hand gripper to do that, or you can use a barbell or dumbbells

where you put it behind your back, you let it roll down the finger to. You get a rice bucket. And then you squeeze it, or yeah, I love the rice bucket extra. You can push your fingers through, spread them apart, you can grip the rice and make balls out of it and squeeze as hard as you can.

And it's just one of those underrated exercises. Not a lot of people know. We have that in our OCR program. It's awesome. I think it's really interesting to, unless you had something like OCR, so I'm glad you just actually said that because I was actually gonna say it's,

you know, this whole idea of like training grip by itself. I'm less of a fan of it because there's so many exercises that you can do that your grip strength is gonna come up really well I mean you doing weighted pull ups is gonna do it you're doing heavy deadlifts gonna do it You're doing farmer carries is gonna do it you using an axle bar for your dead lifts is gonna do it like These these all those exercises are other great exercises for other parts or you're the whole body That I think have tremendous value and you're gonna get a lot of good grip strength from it.

To sit down and do like wrist, curl, bucket. And the only way I'm doing that is if I'm specifically training for like OCR where that needs to be at another. Well, it's specific to to what you train. So you're gonna be as strong, you're only gonna be strong in your grip to what you're constantly doing.

Right. So it's like the novelty of it is cool and all, but like for the most part, it's like you said, it's what you're constantly doing. Right, so it's like the novelty of it is cool and all, but for the most part, it's like you said, it's what you do constantly, and it's just getting better at your mechanics and performance of that and loading the weight. Now, along those lines, I've noticed this quite a bit with clients that I've trained,

where I've done a little bit of work on their grip and on their wrist, and because they feel so much stronger, more stable, and their hand. And there's more stability. They're stronger on their presses, They're stronger on their presses, they're stronger on their rows, because they just feel so much stronger in their grip. Even in their presses, even, I tell you what,

you see some guys do this, well they're heavy benches and they're really strong with their bench and because their wrist and their grip isn't strong enough to support it, they'll have wrist wraps. That literally go around the wrist and it allows them to bench press more weight. So you would be surprised.

Now you guys are pretty advanced, you guys are trained, are pretty heavy, but you should be surprised the average person, a little bit of grip training, and they notice these tremendous benefits. And really, okay, here's what it boils down to. Our hands connect us to the world. We evolved using our hands a lot with things.

If you ever shake the hand of a blue collar worker, you know exactly what I'm talking about. That's a different species. People today, we work on computer, we never challenge our hands at all and because this connects us to the world, we become super weak. So then they go to the gym, they train their body, and their grip is just strong enough to hold onto the bar and do their exercises. A little bit of grip work for the average person, I think can make a pretty big difference. Kung Fu grip.

Next question is from Jazz Fitness. I'd love to hear you discuss the recent debate on range of motion. Oh, this is the, is this okay, we're extending this from, because obviously we did a whole episode. Yeah, I was gonna say we did a whole episode. What more do you want to hear?

Yeah, there was a whole episode. I mean, really the debate was, is a fuller range of motion beneficial when compared to a partial range of motion when it comes to building muscle. And the argument goes with the partial range of motion argument is you're able to keep more tension on the target muscle. Once you go outside of a certain range of motion, tension is taken off the muscle. Our argument is you should be able to maintain tension on your target muscle intrinsically throughout the full range of motion. And training a full range of motion is going to give you

a broader strength range because you strength is relatively specific. And studies show that muscles that work through a larger range of motion, they build more anyways. And what you don't train to lose. So if you train a partial range of motion, they build more anyways. And what you don't train to lose. So if you train a partial range of motion, you start to lose a strength and mobility. So the prerequisites are, can you control that range of motion? Do you have good stability and good connection?

If you do within those parameters, train the fullest range of motion possible. Don't go outside of that. If you have no control stability or strength, outside of that range of motion possible. Don't go outside of that. If you have no control stability or strength outside of that range of motion, your goal should be to increase that range so you can train and greater and greater range of motion. Well, in addition to that,

even if the other guy that we were having this debate with was completely right, because there's some truth to what he was saying. No doubt that if all your goal was to develop the quads and once you get out of that range of motion in a really deep squat, the less of the quads are being activated, intention is going elsewhere to other muscles that are going to support that. Even if we were to agree and go that direction, would you want to do that and to sacrifice though the mobility work that it takes for your hips

and ankles to get all the way to, would you at any age of your life want to just write that off? If I told you that by doing that, by shortening your range of motion up for years, very much so we'll probably limit your function. That's right. Lead to hip and back and knee pain because you decided to shorten your range of motion up in pursuit of building more muscle in your quads. So even if his case was completely right and we were completely wrong, would you want to do that? That was the problem that I had with that statement and that debate was, okay, maybe a very small percentage of high high level bodybuilders want to train

specifically in that range of motion for a while. They get a little bit more development of quads and they don't want any more hamstring or glue or calf work at all. They just want more quads because it's lagging. There's some value to that statement, but pretty much everybody else, I think the statement is more harmful than it is helpful. Yeah, but also along those lines, as a bodybuilder, there's one thing that you do better

than any other strength athlete. And that is connect- Mine muscle. To target muscles. That's what bodybuilders do phenomenally. So if you're telling me that you lose tension in your quads, when you go down below a certain point, like figure out, you can figure it out.

Like connect to the, trust me, the quads aren't turning off. Unless you're relaxing at the bottom or you have more mobile. The other problem is like, there's just too much isolation focus. And in general, we try so hard to promote the value of compound lifts and what that does is it's such a louder systemic signal throughout your body that everything has to respond. This is a whole new environment we have to account for. And so to eliminate that as part of the training process is pretty ridiculous because it is gonna affect

all the muscles involved with that movement tremendously. And you can isolate it and you can sculpt and you can do all that stuff, but to remove that from the conversation is pretty stupid. You know, it's funny, we did a whole, literally a whole targeted episode on this. If you wanna know more, you know, I'm sure it'll be linked here and you can go check it out.

But the comments underneath that particular episode, every single person who heard us talk, they, I saw so many experiences of people saying, my knees used to hurt, my back used to hurt, then I worked on mobility. I'm doing deeper squats. All the pain is gone. My shoulders used to hurt, then I worked on mobility. Now I'm doing full range of motion shoulder presses and all the pain is gone. My shoulders used to hurt, then I worked on mobility. Now I'm doing full range of motion shoulder presses, and my shoulder pain is gone.

Like the whole, that old mentality of, oh, it hurts your knees if you go too low, oh, it hurts your shoulders if you go to, that's actually not entirely correct. The truth is, your mobility's making you hurt, you fix that, then the full range of motion stuff will reduce pain, not ad pain. Right, so even regardless if your argument is purely on aesthetics and like muscle development,

like you like play that out. What does that end up with? Like what is your body get a function like that? And then what do you lose? And then you lose your status. And then you lose your status. So risk versus reward. Well, you end up like me.

That's, I mean, that's why I think I was so passionate about this argument was because I agreed with that guy. You know, 22 year old me, agreed was, would quickly agree with that guy because all I cared about was the way I looked and I was young and I didn't like squatting because I wasn't good at it. And so I just said, oh cool, good excuse for me not to ever pursue getting better at squatting because I can actually develop my quads, which was the main thing I cared about that time. Oh cool, I'll just stop doing that completely.

What I didn't know was going to happen to me was because I did that, I had terrible hip and ankle mobility, and so chronic low back pain and hip pain came in my late 30s or my mid 30s, and I was like, well, I can't figure out what's going on with me. Oh, that's why, because I decided

that I would just short my range of motion up on my squatting because I didn't need to develop, I wanted to develop my quads, that was my main focus, but now I'm stuck with this low back pain and hip pain and it took me a year and a half, two years of reversing that by all the mobility work. And the beauty of it is, after all that work, to get to that place, now all I have to do

to keep that from happening is squatting deep. That's all I have to do. And now I'm my hips and my back are fine. That's it. Look, if you like this podcast, if you like our information, head over to MindPumpFree.com. We've got a lot of free guides that can help you with everything from fat loss to muscle gain. We even have guides for personal trainers.

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