Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1538: How to Build the Peak of the Bicep, the Dangers of Fat Burner Supplements, the Pros & Cons of Battle Ropes & More

Episode Date: April 23, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best way to build the peak of the bicep, whether thermogenic fat burners actually do anything, the value of battle ropes, and when to implement them in your workout, and whether spinal flexion exercises like crunches are dangerous for the back.  Are comments on YouTube making Sal feel insecure? (3:31) Sal is a BIG nerd. (5:48) What industry does robotics disrupt first? (9:06) Mind Pump speculates on cryptocurrency being the money of the future. (16:00) The eerie legend of the Overtoun Bridge in Scotland. (31:33) Why no competitor vegan protein powders compare to Organifi’s. (35:42) Would you purchase a minimalist phone? (37:28) Baby Aurelius hitting another milestone in his progression. (42:11) The advancements in technology and parenting hacks. (45:08) The impact and power of blue light on sleep patterns. (48:05) #Quah question #1 – What is the best way to build the peak of the bicep? (53:45) #Quah question #2 – Do thermogenic fat burners actually do anything? (58:08) #Quah question #3 – What do you think about battle ropes and when is a good time to implement them in your workout? (1:02:34) #Quah question #4 – Are spinal flexion exercises, like crunches, dangerous for the back? (1:07:46) Related Links/Products Mentioned April Specials: MAPS Anabolic or Shredded Summer Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “APRILSPECIAL” at checkout** Beyond 2000 (TV Series 1985-1999) - IMDb Fed Up: An Insider's Take on Why the Federal Reserve is Bad for America Bitcoin suffers flash crash following week of crypto hype Fiat Money Definition - Investopedia The history of dogecoin, the joke currency that's worth more than Barclays and Lloyds ‘Dog Suicide Bridge’: Why Do So Many Pets Keep Leaping Into a Scottish Gorge? Dogs poop in alignment with Earth’s magnetic field, study finds Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout* The Light Phone II's new idea of phone minimalism | Engadget Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Blue Chew for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Top 3 Bicep Exercises You're NOT Doing! (TRY THESE) | MIND PUMP Preacher Curls Are What Your Bicep Workouts Have Been Missing! - Mind Pump TV The ONLY Way You Should Be Doing Dumbbell Bicep Curls! - Mind Pump TV Fat Burners are a Waste of Money – Mind Pump Blog Battle Rope Workout & Exercises?? STOP WASTING YOUR TIME!! (QUAH #3) | Mind Pump How to Use Battle Ropes The RIGHT Way (Try These!) - Mind Pump TV Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

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Let me give you a rundown of today's episode, the intro was 48 minutes long, after that we answered the question. We open up, I talk about YouTube comments, people are mean on YouTube, and they hurt my feelings. Be nicer. Then I talked about how big of a nerd I was as a kid.

I actually subscribed to Omni Magazine when I was 12, so all you old people know exactly what I'm talking about. Then we talked about cryptocurrency and the money of the future. This was a good conspiracy theory conversation. It was a lot of fun there. Please don't demonetize us. YouTube, I don't know, this is a shit of me.

Then we talked about the dog suicide bridge in Scotland. That's very sad. I talked about taking a protein powder, a vegan protein powder from the store, and it was disgusting. It tasted like someone mowed the lawn, put it in a bag and added chalk. Dirt and cardboard.

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Then we talked about a new phone on the market that is super basic because people want to get off social media. Then I talked about my baby phone on the market that is super basic because people want to get off social media. Then I talked about my baby son learning how to crawl at five and a half months old. I think he's advanced. Then we talked about new technology crayons in coloring books, that's kind of cool.

Then we talked about pre-bed rituals. You can do to help you sleep better, which led us to talk about blue light blocking glasses. Our company, of course, the one that we work with, is Felix Gray. By the way, it's Felix Gray's birthday, and you're gonna get a discount between the 26th of April and the second of May, 15% off,

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This person says, look, what's the best way to build the peak of the biceps? The next question, this person wants to know fat burning supplements actually do anything. The third question is, person wants to know what we think about battle ropes and how to put those into a workout. And the fourth question this person says, are spinal flexion exercises like crunches dangerous for your back? Also, we are still running. one of the biggest promotions actually We've had in mind pump history. This one's blowing up and that's totally true That's maps and a ball like when I'm almost popular programs is 50% off and our shredded summer bundle

Which includes maps aesthetic maps prime maps hit and the intuitive nutrition guide is also 50% off You can find them both at mapsfitinistproducts.com, just use the code April Special with No Space. Can I just tell you, man, sometimes YouTube comments really make you feel insecure, don't they? Oh no, what are you to do, dude? I haven't been paying attention other than the nice ones.

Just talking specific shit about like my body. What? Come on, man. That's what they do. Yeah, fucking your chest looks weird. Yeah, you got gyno. Like, I know. I don't get gyno though.

Oh, it's that terrible gray shirt that you wear. That's why you can't wear that anymore. I don't. I'm still validating you. I'm still. I'm like, oh, I know why he said this. Yeah, he's a little kid, it's true. It looks bad.

He has one droopy nipple that day. It's, they're good. I got clean. I got clear, good. Yeah, no, you don't have Guido. No, I don't get Guido. Just a weak ass chest. That's awesome.

It's totally different. Any going to change, Evan training? I've been training it for decades. I've been going anywhere. You don't put that much focus though, I just, no. It's the one body part I've never missed. Ever. Really?

Ever. I would disagree with that. What do you mean? You train your legs and back like a monster. Yeah. My legs, I just started turning them. You train your legs and back like the way I do chisps and shoulders.

Yes. And chest. Yeah bro, we all have our things. Just like the way I train. The names all the body parts. Like all the other shoulders, body parts. All the other ones I don't see you do. Yeah bro. The train, the name's all the party party. All of the other, shoulders, all the other ones that I don't see you do. Yeah, bro, the amount of volume you put on your legs and back,

it's, I put a lot of volume, trust me, I know that. I'll show you the charts. I have it all charted out. What? The amount of volume you put on chest, you still writing it all down? Unless, unless, unless all your workouts at home

that we don't see, which is once or twice a week, all chest workouts for two hours. You think I purposely don't work my chest? No, I just don't. I just can't. I think that I just can't. I think it gets covered by the wife. I think it's the kind of attention that my calves get. You know, somewhere around there. No way, the wife feeder adds like, you know, like a little, little, you know, I actually have the perfect I actually have the perfect body for the wife theater I really do I swear to God put it on seriously and it looks amazing did you just just why don't we have a Haines sponsorship we need you I don't think you could call what do I have the perfect body for huh I don't have the perfect body for anything for my singlet for

say yeah for a one Z yeah the perfect body for the perfect good good yeah to say it all breathy like that dude you know what magazine I used to read? Doug, if you opened the group text, there's a picture of the magazine I subscribed to when I was 12, okay? I want you guys to see the cover of this magazine. I got every single edition of this magazine. I threw them all away, I shouldn't have, because now they... You sent to the group, right?

I don't know. I'm like, man, you know what magazine I used to read? Doug, if you opened the group text, there's a picture of the magazine I subscribed to when I was 12, okay? I want you guys to see the cover of this magazine. I got every single edition of this magazine, I threw them all away, I shouldn't have, because now they-

You sent it to the group, right? I don't see it. I just sent it right before I started. Oh, okay. And this is what I used to read when I was 12. Just give you guys an idea of what you're dealing with right now. The magazine was called Omni, and it was like- I've heard of that.

Deep science and some science fiction. Yeah, so I'm 12 years old and this is funny. Look at the cover. I read a lot of the same shit you do. So I was 12, I was reading the shit. Look at that and like the science journal and all of the, the robot, proletariat. I mean, a powder that defeats cancer.

Like weird shit, so we're a pill. I'm 12, I'm reading this. Oh, this is cool. This is crazy. I used to also watch the show, and this is what my son and I were laughing over. Do you guys remember the show on TV called Beyond 2000? No.

No, I didn't see that. So we're laughing because 2000's like, you know, it was 21 years ago. But when you're in the 80s and 90s, anything beyond, anything 2000 above was like, that's when we're gonna have flying cars, we're gonna be robots and the future. Oh, in fact, the future was like,

I forget what exact year it was, but when we passed that, it was like mind blowing. Yeah, so I told them that and he's like, beyond 2000, trust me, I was super futuristic back in the 90s. Yeah. That was one of the best things on TV. How do you come across him and like that as a kid? Where did you see some,

I've never even seen that magazine before. I was at, I don't know, I probably I was at some science fair. No, I didn't want to science fair. I was somewhere with magazines and I picked up and it probably talked about aliens and then tech and I was like, oh, this is super cool. And I told my mom, please,

and then of course my mom's like, oh, this is smart. You remember that, that earwatch, Conan O'Brien? He had that one my mom's like, oh, this is smart. You remember that, that you were watch Conan O'Brien? He had that one bit where I was like, he knew you'd do the same. Then he would like go off with all these futuristic things. Yeah, how about Jetson cars and stuff? Let's be honest, disappointing, isn't it? Very disappointing.

This is a very disappointing, the future that I was promised is not the same. Although, okay, so have you seen, so there's a few clips of this one guy who literally has like the Iron Man setup. He's basically I think he's with the Navy, but oh where he flies. Yeah, I had him on a boat and then he has like these two. I just saw that. Yeah, these two sort of jet. I don't even it's propulsion things on his arms. He landed on another boat. Yeah, yeah. It's not that fast or anything though.

I feel like you could shoot. I know it's clunky, but dude, it's like, it's close. It does, it's the beginning of this. Yeah, no, it's close. Like, finally, we're got some cool shit, you know, instead of all this, whatever, like lame stuff. I get more impressed by this,

that's just your regular run of the mill, commercially available drones. Those are, my brother is totally into them. Those things are crazy. You lock it in on someone and just follows them. Let's just clear how they can use tons of them together, organize to create like swarms. Yes, swarms, like everything you've seen in cartoons

and stuff, like make like schools of them and then they like, what's your guys' theory on? Like what industry does robotics disrupt the most first? Like who, who, who, who, who, the first one? Yeah, like the most. Ah, you got me.

Yeah, I was just saying. Trucking and shipping. You think so? Yeah, firstly. So, so right now you have truckers who play a very vital role right and producing and bringing products Across the country. Mm-hmm. That's gonna be the first soon. They have approved AI or whatever self-driving trucks. Yeah, oh my gosh And then they're already working on like exoskeleton

Type suits and things for super soldiers like if you could Google at too. It's cool. Like you'll work at Amazon, you'll have a suit on like everything. You're immediately like double 10X, the strength of what you normally would be. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Oh, that's interesting. So now what do you think? Do you have a thing?

No, I like, so I mean, I see the drones delivering boxes and things like that. That's kind of already happening, which I mean, that is a lot of, I mean, how many delivery trucks are in work for FedEx and work for Amazon Prime already is, there's a ton of those. So yeah, what it'll probably, is my guess, what it would look like would be a self-driving truck, and then it would park, and then swarms of delivery drones

would come out the back. Yeah, right, hit a whole neighborhood. Hit a whole neighborhood, those would come back, and then what else? So what do you think the next industry, I think, it'd be cool to see robots getting involved with a lot of the 3D printed type buildings. So they're maybe building more structures.

And so it's like, people don't have to have a lot of manpower anymore. They just have robots take care of it. Wow, that'd be cool. What do you think, what explain that? So you want to build a building, you have the blue prints, you plug it in and then the robots go wanna build a building, you have the blue prints, you plug it in, and then the robots go.

You have the robot workers with the machines. Oh, the machines. I put out all construction workers. Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah, when I think of disruptive, I think of what is going to put out the most people out of work by this. Like what industry, and I think delivery stuff, construction is interesting.

I wouldn't even have thought of that actually, but with 3D printing and things like that. You know how far, we're pretty far though, I think, from now on. You know, the fear around robots is, and I wouldn't even have thought of that actually, but with 3D printing and things like that. You don't know how far, we're pretty far though, I think from time. You know, the fear around robots is... And I had to make it happen. It is cheaper though. And I also think this, I also think that it's going to open

a new market for still the human hand to do things. We're talking about art and stuff like that, being to be replicated. I think there's still going to be shoes at one point. All the shoes are going to be 3D printed, no problem. But then I think there's going to be something about custom. Because we value that, oh, this was made by a human. Exactly.

Yeah, I think it'll be great. Why I think it'll be great is because it will, for people who can't afford. That's actually a good point because if you get a car, that's super expensive and someone says, this was all handmade. That's right. Every seat was hand-stained, which is a slow-ass process. You'll get it next year.

Yeah, but oh, yeah, I want that because it was made by hand. Right, right. That's a good point. Yeah, so I get excited about that stuff, right? Because I think that a lot of people get all freaked out, like, oh, it's gonna put people on jobs or things like that. I'm like, no, I think it'll just, it'll change

the market. It'll, of course, you know, what it'll do, which is amazing. It's drive us back to skilled driven work. Well, somebody that couldn't afford a car or couldn't afford a pair of shoes will now be able to get it because it'll be so cheap because you can 3D print it and think of that. But then it'll still open up the higher end market for people that want something custom and made by hand. Sure. No, every, every time there's an innovation, it puts people out of business. Like when the wrist rock watch, right,

became a thing that pocket watches. I know. That put pocket watch makers kind of out of business, right? Cars, put wagon. Yeah, but that's another great point though. There's a reason why Rolex watches on average $10,000 because another handcrafted, like, something that takes a long time. Perceived value $10,000. Sure. Because another handcrafted, something that takes a long time.

Perceive value. Yeah, exactly. So, you can go by a time X, digital watch, you know, some target or what about that, for what, 20 bucks or less. But then you can also spend tens of thousands of dollars on one. Well, we'll see if these robots will screw up the way that,

I had Doug grab a few of these pictures for me like of Design fails as watching the show with my kids and like they went off on all these like really poorly designed things And like there was some banks that had their ATMs Way too high for you to even reach it I'm like no way and then there's like multiple examples of like banks We were like jumping up to put their card in. What? Yeah, and like climbing on somebody's back to bring it up.

I've seen some of these before these design fails where it's like, there's like a door and then you open it, there's nothing there. Yeah. Or there's like a toilet in front of the wall. I guess this happens all the time. Oh, okay, who does not, I don't understand. Explain this to me.

So like when they're going through the plans on paper, like there's some kind of like, somebody doesn't oversee it and it gets passed through. And the builders are building it. And all of a sudden the dimensions are all, there's like the math is off. The math is off. Yeah, but the guy that people building it,

they just follow the instructions. Like, it's like on his back, trying to like, that's real right there. Yeah, I saw one where there was literally, there was literally a toilet in front of a pole. It's way up here. That's a lie. Get my money.

I didn't know that. I keep imagining. That's really happened. Yeah. I've seen stuff like this. I mean, so stupid. How much of a moron though do you have to be if you're the contractor and you're putting in and you're not-

How do you not spot that and be like, okay, we gotta alter this. Because you had to be on a ladder, putting it up, you know what I'm saying? Well, think about it this way. Right. You're the guy girl building this, right? You see it and you're like, oh, they fucked up. You're like, do I tell them and then not work? Cause then they'll stop.

I'll just do it. That's gotta be what happens. That's gotta be what happens. Of course, yeah. They know, they're like, they're like, I'm just gonna do what I told you. Hey, listen, I'm just here to do it.

You tell me. I don't know, I thought maybe this was for sure. Let's talk. I'm not paid to think. Okay, I'm just here to do it. You tell me. I don't know, I thought maybe this was for some time. I'm not paid to think. Go see if I can. I just have to build the 9 foot 18. I thought, I thought only for seven footers. I thought this was NBA, ATA. I don't know.

What's going on? You know, it's working in my money. You know, back to the NBA, to the, no, to the robot thing. And we've talked about this on the podcast. There's all this fear that machines are gonna take our jobs or we're all gonna be unemployed, such a silly fear. It's not how it works. And I, this is the way I always put it,

it blows people away, but if robots do everything for us, that's awesome. Okay, maybe you don't work because you work when you want to. You don't necessarily have to. And robots do everything for you. That's the, like the Jetsons, you know, that's like the... Well, it ultimately should drive the prices down on things, right? Should make things way more affordable.

Sure, men. So things that you can't afford technically right now, if it was all built by robots, they would have to drive the price down. Well, think about what happens when markets can start to produce things and they start to compete, compete, and then things become free, which lots of things today are free that cost money before.

When it ends up happening, they use the free product, now how do they make money off of it? Well now they use the free product to deliver advertising. So how are we gonna get, how are we gonna make money off of giving people free stuff? Oh, I know, we'll use this to advertise for things. So there's always ways, there's basically- So speaking of money, I wanna talk about the conversation

that we were just starting to have before this podcast started. Oh, is this gonna, do we need to get some this podcast started. Is this gonna do any of the conspiracy? My money. I don't know if it's like conspiracy as much as it is, like speculating on where this could go, right? So we are reading an article about digital currency and that the federal reserve, I mean right now all the banks,

all the central banks are starting to decide what they're gonna do pivot-wise with digital currency because obviously with Coinbase going the way it did everything. They're all basically saying that they're going to have digital currencies in the next few years. Right. And then I also read that the Federal Reserve is a couple years out from potentially going that way direction too. So what does that mean for us? And why do you think that's a very scary place to be? Okay. So the dream of a digital currency is wonderful for governments. Remember, the central banks have an interesting relationship with governments. They're not run necessarily by the government,

but they do have a relationship in which the government allows them to have a monopoly. So no other bank, for example, is allowed to make dollars. If you do, it's called counterfeit, and the government will punish you. So essentially what we've done is we've created, through force, a monopoly for creating our money, which allows the Federal Reserve to get away with and do basically whatever they want. So for people who aren't familiar, you can read about, you know, like, for example, the Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. It's like federal, it's like FedEx. Just called that.

It's just a bank. It's a private bank. He's that name. FedUp is a good book. Yeah, that's a good one. End of Fed by Ron Paul kind of breaks it down as well. Actually, the creature from a Jekyll Island, read that. I'll tell you all about the creation of all of it.

So, the dream of a digital currency is this. Think about how many millions, billions, maybe trillions of dollars worldwide are lost because of transactions that can't be traced. Cash, for example, right? Cash deals are big, right? Well, if all currencies digital, it's all 100% traceable. Traceable. And that's ultimate control. Oh, taxable. Is that true though, if it's on blockchain, I thought that was the idea that it keeps it from. You think the official Federal Reserve currency that you're going to have access to it?

You think they're going to make it untraceable? Of course. Of course. So you think that's the way it would, so eventually what it would go is basically just a digital dollar then. It's no long. longer paper, no paper. The way we're looking at it right now, what I see happening is private entities

are starting to create their own cryptocurrency on blockchain. And I thought that we were moving in this direction of like, you would have, like for example, we'd have mind pump dollars, which would not be dollars, it would be crypto. And we would decide how valuable a single coin is worth in mind pump world or buying something from us. And then you'd have basically have that Netflix, that all these companies would have kind of that. But ultimately you trade it for dollars still.

Even with Bitcoin, you could still buy some stuff with Bitcoin, but not much. if you invest in Bitcoin when you're ready to make money off of it right? We're ready for dollars. What we decide it that obviously what we decide right now that determines the value of Bitcoin is based off the dollar It's right. It's a well the dollar that's where we see the value right? Bitcoin's based off of its supply and demand which we see by the way it crashed Recently because there was this outage in China. I don't know if you guys saw this. They have some of the biggest Bitcoin mining operations in the world over there. So Bitcoin mining is where they go through

and they try to create more Bitcoin through following the algorithm. And it's like a tremendous amount of energy, by the way, to do this. And I guess they had a power outage, which caused people to liquidate their Bitcoin. So you saw the value of Bitcoin drop actually pretty considerably. I think it went from like 60 something to 50 in a short period of time.

But anyhow, with these digital currencies from the central banks, from the Federal Reserve and central banks of other countries, what they'll do is they're not going to have it plus the dollar. They're going to have it to get rid of the dollar. Okay, now here we go. Put your, put your, okay. So what does that do to the other currencies,

like the Bitcoin's and Dodge coins and all these other, right, that's why I was so curious. Those are always, they could always succumb to government regulation. In other words, so let's go immediately to like black market stuff. Right, so if the US government, all of a sudden says,

that's it, Bitcoin's illegal. You're not allowed to trade in it. You're not allowed to own it. You're not allowed to whatever. You're just, it's basically now just the black market. So then, okay, now if that happens, then it's really not that different than where we're at right now.

Because right now, cash is that, right? Cash, the ability for you and I do exchange cash is not still recognized everywhere. Right. Is recognized, is not traceable. So if the government comes you and I do exchange cash is not still recognized everywhere. Right. Is recognized is not traceable. So the government comes out and says, okay, here's our official coin or currency that we're going to do and says, okay, nothing else will be accepted anymore, but we still agree you and I that we trade. It's still very different because if you have cash, then it's accepted everywhere. And you don't have to trade that cash for something else in order to use it.

There's no steps in other words. Let's say in the theoretical futures, the Federal Reserve makes a digital currency and they're like, that's it, no more dollar. This is what we're converting to. By the way, all other digital currencies are now banned. No one can accept them whatever, but you're like, fuck, I got Bitcoin.

I wanna do some, I wanna pay my contractor Bitcoin. I don't want, you know, he wants to make, you know, whatever, like you pay in cash. Yeah. If he accepts, first off, he has to have find a way to be able to accept it and store that Bitcoin. But then it has no value except for on the black market. So for him to get, to take it to, to use it.

Right. Buy a house or buy a car. You would have to find a black market way to convert it to the new digital cash, the new digital dollar. But that's kind of the same though right now. If you go and you make a million dollar selling drugs. A million dollars. Yes.

If you go big money, you have to launder it. Right. But think about all the waiters and waitresses and gardeners and garage sales. I mean, it's a lot of money that gets moved back and forth that they can't trace. They have no idea where cash is going with that kind of stuff. Now you're right, you make $100,000 a million, you gotta find clever ways of laundering,

there's a whole, whatever. Right, because you can't go run out and buy a car with that. Yeah, but with Bitcoin, what we're talking about is I'm sure drug dealers and stuff, big money. But if you're like the average, you know, your plumber, you're like, hey, let me just give you, you know, $50 with the Bitcoin, what we're talking about is I'm sure drug dealers and stuff big money, but if you're like the average, you know, you're plumber You're like, hey, let me just give you you know $50 with the Bitcoin's like, well, I can't do anything with that. You got a payment digital currency and it's all traced now I think what scares me the most about this is what what points in that direction is what's happening right now with us printing money

Because if if it is if now... If Maued all makes sense, I got a prayer sale. Right. If the government knows it's going this direction, right? If the central bank knows. If they're having conversations that we're all unaware of right now of like, oh, this is our projected date.

This is when this is going to happen. Let's say it's four years, three years down the road. Let's say it's gonna take to get to this place. Then, what, what, I mean, why not print crazy money? Because eventually it's going to be worth nothing anyway. So let's go, let's go bananas. So historically speaking, all fiat currencies, a fiat currency is always crap.

Yeah, always a fiat currency is a currency that's not backed by anything solid, right? So the dollar used to be backed by gold. We broke that, that final, you know, line line decades ago or whatever where it was just paper The dollars has lost something like 90 something percent of its value in comparison to hard assets like silver or gold Right since we done that so the dollar already is down down down down down down And I think and they know this they know that dollar is gonna cry So what are they doing they're like okay? We'll have this they doing? They're like, okay, we'll have this digital currency.

This is my theory. We're gonna have this digital currency. Let's have a good time with this dollar. It's going down anyway. Let's blow it out and inflate the shed of it. Who cares? Because all of our friends are the first ones to spend it. All the big money people are gonna buy property

and shit like that before stuff explodes. Then everybody else gonna be left like, what the fuck? Then when they say sorry It's a new digital currency trading all your cash Your bank account is gonna get converted to the digital currency by the way. It's now that worth this much We will determine the value. So this is potentially what could what could happen? So that's my now what what's the stop and we got demonetized and now Everybody just took a shit room now No, I know, right?

Well, it would still be considered fiat money though now, even as a coin, right? I mean, because it's not backed by any heart asset. Correct. So there's nothing. The only difference is we're just starting the cycle over. And not only that, but it's all extremely traceable. Every single whatever dollar you have, every quarter,

everything you spend your money on, they know every single step with the click of a button. I guess that's the part that I don't understand, because I thought that was the whole purpose of blockchain was to make it untraceable and untrackable. Blockchain is different because it's decentralized, right? It's supposedly, supposedly it's decentralized. Again, I think it was created as a way

to get us to go in this direction anyway. Yeah, I see a counter though, till this, in that it's very susceptible to attacks, right? Or to hackers, or to EMPs, or infrastructure with, you know, like taking our power, now what? Now what? What kind of value do you have to do? Well Well if you store it off something on a hard drive There's ways you could just like you could take money and you could store it in a safe

So technically it's it's very similar now a central Place that does all of this digital currency? Right, so let's say you're you have you you have, you bank with all the bank store now everybody's money. It's all digital. Theoretically, yeah, you could wipe out all the money that's in there and people would have to start at zero or they'd have to figure out a way to,

but who knows, who knows, right? So, by the way, here's a deal. Central banks that control digital currency, right? So let's say we're now 20 years in the future. All currency now is digital. And you know, the US has its own central bank, Europe has its own central bank, China has its own. And it's all digital, right? Everything's traced, everything's controlled that way. You are like one small step away from a world currency. And if you control the world with the world currency, oh boy, you got a lot of power. You got to look into the amount.

Now technically don't we already kind of do that, though, with the dollar? What do you mean? Because it's, it's, it's, everybody, still there's still exchange rates of stuff, though. Yeah, but everybody bases off of our dollar. That's the reason why it's, we've been able to keep printing and be okay with it.

Not everybody still accepts it as a valuable. You're right. And for the most part, not all, but for the most part, but it's, if a country decides that they want to come out with their own currency back up by gold, although, and historically, when countries have done that, you know, we've found reasons to admit them. I don't know, I'm like, would be a weird, you know, for example. Yeah, so, but I mean, it's very interesting to me. So, this all piece together, right?

We're gonna print the shadow money. Oh, we know it's gonna crash anyway. Let's just have a good time with it. Come out with our own digital currency. Now everybody's kind of used the Bitcoin. It's not that big of a deal. When that happens, nope, you can't use Bitcoin anymore. You can't use Dogecoin.

You can't use any of this other stuff anymore. This is the currency, by the way, the money you had in cash, this is what it's valued. Oh, you had more cash? Why don't you pay taxes on that? Show us what it is. No, I don't want it. It's gonna be really weird, dude. It'll be a very, very interesting.

Can you take a somewhere else, Adam? I wanted to go there because we were just having this conversation before we go on the podcast. I want to finish that conversation because it's very interesting to me. And because I probably out of us, three, I probably watch the real estate market the most, and I'm something that I'm just baffled by is that it's not showing any signs.

No slowing down. Yeah, and I've been watching real estate for a very long time, and there's always these kind of, you know, peaks and valleys and it seems they're going to be like accelerating. It is, and that it makes no sense, other than like if it is because of the printing of money happening and a lot of like smart investors

realizing that this is, because that's what I say. There's not a lot of fear of everything bursting. What's not happening right now is this. What's not happening is there's a bunch of young millennials that are now in the place because they theorize that some of this is from this, right? The millennials are the largest group of people that are in the age now that can afford to buy homes and they're all out shopping for their first homes. Okay, so that's, you know, 20 something percent. The other 80 something percent is investors. And people that have lots of money

and that see the riding on the wall. And they are just buying. And people are doing ridiculous things. They are paying without no contingencies. I don't know, no appraisal, no nothing. It's all about speed. Paying over 30, 40%. When you see stuff like that,

you gotta scratch your head and go like, it makes no sense. We have numbers that we go by. We look at it, it has to make mathematical sense. If we're gonna do this, it's gotta pan out by three to five percent cap rate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there's so many people that are coming in,

just ignoring all logic when it comes to investing. And these are investors, so what does that tell you? It tells you that they don't even give a shit about that right now because they're thinking. They want assets. Exactly. They're thinking three, five, 10 years down the road. They know that that's gonna be so important.

Behind where I grew up, my parents house, right? San Jose. Now I know San Jose is expensive. There's a house for sale. It wasn't, again, it's a track, these are track homes, right? They're not mansion. So if you live in other places of the country, this may sound crazy,

but this, a four bedroom track homes, right? They're not mansion, so if you live in another place of the country, this may sound crazy, but this, a four-bedroom track home listed for 1.2 million, which is already crazy, right? They got 17 offers, 15 were cash. You know what I'm gonna say sold it for? How much? 1.4, $200,000 over a ridiculous asking cash. And my dad is like, dude, he goes, this is crazy.

Which I don't even want to praise for that right now. That's why I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And my dad is like, dude, he goes, this is crazy. What should I do? I don't even want to praise for that right now. That's why I'm saying it's like, I've never seen this in, at least in my lifetime, of paying attention to this. And maybe it's only been what, 10 years or so that I was really like watching the real estate market, maybe 10, 15.

And I do not ever remember seeing it like this. I know. Crazy and ridiculous. So you add in what we're talking about, we're theorizing about what could happen with digital currency and that there's a chance that they just don't give a fuck about the dollar and they're just, yeah, I'm pregnant, yeah, yeah, spend it, do whatever.

And then you see what's also happening in the real estate market. It kind of points in that direction. Dude, one more thing to make it just how crazy things are. So you guys know the fake joke, blockchain currency dogecoin. Right, so dogecoin. They literally, they started as a joke, right? I thought I heard something that was,

it was not even that meme dog on it. Yeah, the dog, the meme dog, the doge dog, or whatever is the cover anyway. It is now valued at more than Ford. The company Ford that's been around forever. One of the great American companies of all time. I did. It's worth more than Ford.

It doesn't even make sense to me. That's what I've said. How was that possible? Because of the value of the total. The last of the phase. Proceed value. The value of the total doge coins right now on the market. So their total value surpass now the total value of Ford.

Oh my God. Speak to the dogs. Okay, I'm gonna get this outta here. Back it's out. Dude, but I mean this is a little kind of crazy. So if you have a dog, do not walk it across this very specific bridge in Scotland. Why?

Because apparently, I don't know if there's legends, there's folk lore around this whole thing, but basically they just jump off and commit suicide. What? Yeah, and this has happened with like, I don't know, like a hundred, a couple hundred of these. What? If you just jumped off the bridge and committed suicide.

What if people are just throwing the dogs off? Oh, bro, I don't know. I don't know. What, like explain that though, like, is there some weird reason that all of a sudden, like, and one of the, one of the accounts lady was like, is there a water or a cross? Is there a water underneath or is there a bridge over?

I don't know, not sure if there's water, but, but basically, you know, the dog just like, totally turned into like zombie mode and just like, kind of just like totally turned into like zombie mode and just like kind of just decided to just leap. Wait, hold on a second, go back, Doug. Go back, I wanna read what was there. So if you back arrow, I'll read it. So that's, I mean, it's a creepy looking bridge

to begin with. I mean, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's definitely some kind of, I feel like jumping on. Haunted. It says residents of Dunbarton, which is northwest of Glasgow,

began calling Overtown, Overton, Overtown, a five-centon, a century-old bridge that stretches across a 50-foot gorge, the dog's suicide bridge. Local researchers estimate more than 300 have sailed off the bridge. It's 300. Tabloid reports say it's 600.

Wow. So these should jump off. Yeah. Yeah, explain that. Maybe there's squirrels. Yeah, these just jump off. Yeah. Yeah, explain that. Maybe there's squirrels. Yeah, there's probably squirrels underneath. Yeah, some kind of really dog fucking hate.

Some kind of high-pitched noise or something, some weird psychotic person that hates dogs. What if it's like the Bermuda triangle, right? What if there's like some magnetic, because you know dogs, I don't know if you guys do this. They're sensitive to frequencies. Yeah, or not just that. You've ever seen them turn in a circle and then poop

Oh, yeah, and they always isn't there don't they always poop in the same direction. I mean that's what they say Yeah, it's it's east they orient themselves. You didn't know this is poop east Let's look this up and see if this is true. I don't know if that's true or not They always spin you know a couple times. I mean my orient themselves. Yeah, no my dog definitely does that I'm trying to they orient themselves to the poles or something like that. It's like the magnetic poles of the earth. No way. That's what I read.

Is that true? I don't know, but that's what they spat. I'm like, literally, I can't walk my dog every morning and every night. Pay attention to the direction you do. I know, I think he has spots where we go. We should bring a compass. That's the whole thing.

Researchers have found that dogs use Earth's magnetic fields to align their bowel and bladder movements, and they prefer to relieve themselves along in North South access. Oh, North South, okay, there you go. In fact, canines will actively avoid going to the bathroom in an East West direction. So here's what I want you to do, Adam. Keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my,

keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, keep my, of, keep my, keep my, keep to take a poop, move them. Somebody's going east west. And she'll do that. See if he stops pooping. So it's kind of funny you're bringing this up

because I was just him and I, right? Just Mausine I walking last night. And he cracks me up because he does have these little areas that were on our walk and there's this couple of specific areas that he always ends up having. And to me, I think of it as it's the distance, right? He's walked off enough as metabolism kicks up and that's about where he needs a poop almost every time.

But he always goes in this like bush area and he does the circling around. And he's like, I mean, he gets in a position that does not look comfortable. Like the bush is like sticking him in the eye and then he's got one underneath. And I'm like, dude, why not move over? Like six inches

to the North South bro? Right, well now that makes sense a little bit. So my friend's dog, I think is the most brilliant. He goes around, does his spin thing, but then he always backs himself up against a tree or a fence and so he looks directly ahead, but he always shits right on top of a fence. Wow.

So this is cool, right? So if you're in the woods, let's say you're out in the woods somewhere with Mazi, and you're fucking lost. Like, where am I going right now? Wait till it takes a shit. There's North. We're going this way.

Yeah. Please, poop! It's late. The sun's going down. I got to figure out where I'm going. That's funny. That's hilarious. I'll go to the best.

Anyway, speaking of poop, so I ran out of my usual protein, had to go to the store and get another competitor, vegan protein. Oh, no. And I do this every once in a while, right? I run out. I dare you. And I'm like, I want to hit my protein partner.

Just want to torture yourself. And so I get, you know, I don't want to say the brand, but I get a vegan, because I can't have dairy. So people don't know this. I have a dairy intolerant. So any way protein would just destroy me. So I go with vegan and normally I use the organified protein. But this time, didn't have any,

wanted to have some extra protein. I bought some other brand vegan protein. Fucking terrible, bro. It's like, it's like you moat the lawn, but it's like you moat the lawn and then you put it in a bag and then add a chalk. It's like shavings. And then you like, this just make it chalky.

Make it even worse. Terrible. And I don't even digest it as well as the, as the, Oh, that's frustrating. Very frustrating. So it's also made me happy because it's like, all right, our ours is still the one we were looking at the best.

Was it like the pro-teeners? Like, cause you know, they do, Do you think that's the reason why it organifies so good is because they have a blend? Is it? You think that's part of what? The blend is what gives it the better amino acid profile, right? Because the thing with plant proteins is they tend to not have single plant proteins, tend

to not have as beneficial of amino acid profiles as animal sources of protein. But if you use different sources of vegan proteins, you can create better amino acid profile. It probably tastes better that way. And then of course, I don't know what else they do to make it taste good, but it's not artificially flavored, so that's good. But it makes me happy because I had the gross one. I think it was brown rice protein, I think that's the one I had.

Yeah, and it was like, you cough afterwards and it comes out, and yeah, and yeah, not good. And then later it wasn't good, that's why I said, you cough afterwards and comes out. Yeah, and yeah, not good. And then later it wasn't good. That's why I said, put it. You know, we were talking about, you know, future and what, you know, what predicting some stuff, right? Do you guys see in the company, I think it's called light, it's called the light phone, but it looks like it a J the way they write it.

So it's J-I-G-H-T. I'm not sure if you, so look up Doug, light phone, like you spelled the right way first L.I. G. H. T. and then see if that comes up and if it doesn't then it might be J. I It's the idea is that it's like a basically a minimalist phone and their whole like Yeah, there either they're they're they came up on like it was an ad I was watching TV There's one for old people too. I forgot what it was called, but it was right there. It was right there. It was right there.

It was a cricket or something. So it's a minimalist cell phone, which is what? So it has, oh there we go. Thank you. Good. Is it have to give the little commercial here so these guys can see? Like this is what I got hit with this,

I think this ad right here. Get that, yeah, yeah. It's a phone. It does almost nothing. You can call people. Hey, the commercial shows someone playing a record player. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah. the commercial shows someone playing a record player. Yeah. That's the one.

Yeah. I like to do things the old way. No, that's exactly the idea. I'm a hipster. It's in my run. It's interesting. It's, I mean, that's their whole pitch, right? I, is to try and like get us back to being more social creatures

in time for yourself. Isn't that funny? How there's now a market for people who are like, I can't do this, I need to get rid of this, just, you know, addicting the... This is what social media... You mean interaction. Well, this is also what...

That's all my kids. Okay, this is what also, and they're gonna get... This is what also keeps me from being such an alarmist about something like, you know, when we speculate about, oh my God, like we used to, I mean, I remember I talked about, you know, the, the, which we you call a book that I mentioned a thousand times on this podcast and how I was so adamant learned. Yeah, it's a alter.

Yeah, alter, I said it wrong. Oh, yeah, so it's a condition. Yeah, but you know, there's this, if it's that scary, that bad, so many people are starting to see the consequences of kids being addicted to the tech. Eventually, this comes out. Eventually, somebody goes, okay, there's tens of thousands,

millions of people that agree and see this. And if we create something like this, I bet you there's a bunch of people that are gonna move away from the iPhone and some of that as amazing and as awesome it is for half the population, the other half might go, I hope so. I hope so. I hope so.

I hope it's not so addicting that it's too late before, but Jessica off all social media, you guys know that. That's what I'm saying, you took yourself off. People are moving in that direction. So if we didn't have this business, I would not be on social media. Yeah, we've talked about that. So I do think there's,

no, I don't know of Doug, you can look up to see if it's if the company's successful. I don't know, Doug, you can look up to see if it's, if the company's successful. I don't know how well it's doing or not. Like the commercial thing. I think it's kind of a novel idea these days. Yeah. And yeah, I wouldn't buy it, you know, truthfully. Yeah.

Seriously, I wouldn't. I like, see, I like, I have, I like having the option, but then also being aware of its addictive properties and then going, okay, I have to sell. I'd rather self-regulate than somebody else tell me. If it has a camera on it, that would be good. Because I do value the fact that I have a camera in mind, especially with the baby. Oh, that's one of the best features is my uncle.

Because it means it's nice. You see your kid do something and you can just pull it out. And when I first had Max, you know, you see your kid do something and you can just pull it out and when I when I first had max my uncle He he called me and he's just like go go get yourself a little camcorder and and record everything right now Like do not waste a day. Well, you know, it's so funny I did though. I listen to it still went out and go I went and bought it and for like the first like I don't know a couple months I would get it out and I'm like what am I I doing? The phone shoots, and I actually think, so I could have bought some.

Yeah, one of those JVC ones. Well, it's like a little tiny one. You guys have seen me probably with it before. I think I pay like $200, $200 for it. It's like, it was really cheap. And it says, I think it says it's shot in high-deaf, but when I look at the video compared to my iPhone video, the iPhone video is better.

It shoots on all that. How funny is that it's's 100, 200 bucks. My dad was, he loves, back in the day, he loved tech too, right? He would always buy the latest grade. He got the recorder, the VHS one. So literally, it was like this big. You put a VHS in it, it's on your shoulder. You're holding it like this.

You used to have to wear the VCR attached on a little person. Yes, or you have that right You walk it was big machine and it was back then the it was like 300 to 400 dollars back then One of your shoulder. It's like this big old like no it was so it was okay So you had the big thing like the south talking about and then you with a handle And then you actually had a thing that went around your shoulder and it was the VCR So it had to attach the VCR because that's where the cassette

would go and it was crazy. Yeah, and they were just have this. And they were expensive, yeah, but I love the, like yesterday, you guys saw the video I sent you. So my son, right, five, five and a half months old. Crawling. And he's, he's not, crawling, he's creeping. No, bro, that's crawling.

Nah, he was kind of like, army doing, doing the army thing. Okay, listen, if you can take, if you can take a ball and you can put it three feet away from or four feet, whatever it was, from your son and he can go get it, he's crawling. Does that call, I thought that was called creeping. Whatever. That's what I saw.

I mean, semantics, come on dude, come on dude, come on dude, really? I don't mean like he wasn't going up talking to other baby chicks. So, you got creep. Yeah. But I mean, if he's doing that already, it's only a matter of time before he's full-on.

You know, it's so fun too, because I'm watching him do this. I'm like, oh shit, and I'm trying not to get too loud because if I do, if he's doing that already, it's only a matter of time before he's full-on. You know, it's so fun too, because I'm watching him do this. I'm like, oh, and I'm trying not to get too loud, because if I do, he'll stop. And so I'm like, just, just, just, look, so she looks, then my daughter comes, and when you get my son, right? So everybody's watching him,

and we're trying to do it kind of like, nonchalant, because otherwise, he won't, he'll pay attention to us. So he's doing his thing, we're all watching. He goes over to grab the ball, and we're like, yeah, everybody's cheering. Like, this is so great. This kid's going to grub think he's the most awesome thing in the world. He's got these. He's sent that over to me and it actually made me go back because those were some of my favorite moments of Max was that that was like our first like

cool milestone of like, you know, trying to get him to crawl and then watching him finally crawl across the room to me. So you would you'd sent that and then I went down the rabbit hole of like watching all my videos. Okay, so now your son's old, he's not even, I mean, he's still young, but he's old enough to where when you look at stuff like that, doesn't it feel like, God, that went by so fast? Yeah. Isn't that weird? Yeah, no, it does, it flies.

So it's so crazy. Actually, you're in the phase that I think is not fast. You're in the first six months I felt it was like Twilight Zone slow. And then, so when six months, I felt it was like twilight zone slow. And then, when it's gone, when it's gone, and you look back, you're just like, but to me, like there's very little milestones in that first six months, I mean,

you're experiencing one that's pretty early. I don't think that's- They start to accelerate, don't they? Oh yeah, once the, once in sleep, you're just looking at the clock. Yeah, which is like, just like, and it goes to slow.

Right, and then one year hits, and then I feel like it's like one thing after another. Oh, he's walking, oh, he's pointing, oh, he understands me doing this. It's like, there's milestone after milestone, after milestone after milestone, after that is when I feel like it's like really, accelerate.

I mean, I look back now one month, I go, oh shit, wow, his face has changed so much, and he was doing this, now he's doing that. No, he does this thing, right? I mean, he's only, like I say, he's only five months, much and he was doing this, now he's doing that. No, he does this thing, right? He's only, like I say, he's only five months, but now he's doing this thing where he wants to get, you know, baby's obviously cry when they want to get your tension, but he's figured out

that he can just get our attention by just making a sound. So now what he'll do, he'll be playing and we'll all be, you know, either we're watching TV or we're hanging out and then you hear him go, eh, eh, and you're looking, he's looking right at you. And I'll do it back to him. It was, it was the whole house that's going back and forth. You know what I find,

which you're gonna be coming up on all this stuff soon, which will be interesting because you have such a gap between your kids age, and I don't know what it was like when you were raising your two oldest. I do remember what it was like raising my two younger brother and sisters, and like there's so much like cool tech and

new stuff. So, and this isn't tech, but this is a cool new stuff that exists now that did not exist when they were kids as these coloring books that are, it's like a pen that he gets and he can mark all, it doesn't mark anything. So he could draw on the counter, on the walls, it does, but it, on the book that it comes with, when he marks it, it's like watercolors, and it changes, so it looks like he's cut, so he feels like he's coloring. Now is it still tactile?

So it's not electronic. No, okay, so it's still tactile. It literally looks just like the old school Crayola, highlighter, pants, except for their like, their white tips. And then when he colors on these pieces of paper, the paper turns the colors of whatever the pen is supposed to be.

Oh, that's cool. But he could draw on anything and it doesn't mark anything up. He has the same thing for his bath. So we have these crayons that are designed to go in the water and he can draw all over the bathtub. Yeah, markers on this. And then you just one wipe.

That's cool. Oh, it's brilliant. That's really cool. Because you think when you're, I remember having a little hack. Yeah, it's a huge hack. My little brother and sister, you're cleaning the walls of like, yeah, that's such a common thing. Kids will just like draw everywhere.

Have they, have they, have they, have they, have they thrown anything in the toilet, yeah, have you figured that out yet? I just didn't, I tell you, did I not bring this on the podcast? I didn't bring this up on the podcast. Maybe you toilet? Yeah, you figured that out yet? I just didn't, I didn't bring this in the podcast. I didn't bring this in on the podcast. Maybe you did. Yeah, you did. Oh, okay, I was gonna say, yeah, remember? Cause I hold him sometimes, I was holding him.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was peeing and he threw it in the back. Now, has he gone off on his own to figure this out? No, no, okay. Yeah, that's coming. Yeah, no, they'll do that at some point. Yeah, he hasn't done, he hasn't done. And Trina, where's my mind pump shirt?

Yeah. He's really, I'm still in dripping. I know I keep saying this, so I feel like I'm some point. Yeah, he hasn't done, he hasn't done. And Trina, where's my mind pump shirt? Yeah. Yeah. I'm still in dripping. I know I keep saying this, so I feel like I'm gonna jinx myself, but he's, he's so mellow, he's chill, he's not destructive, you know, I wonder if that's gonna change,

like, you know, I was a teenager. Yeah. Cause he's, he just is not, and he still is that, and he definitely is at that age where he is challenging what he's not supposed to do. So I've told you guys that Katrina's trained the whole no thank you thing, right?

And so, you know, I have the speakers in my living room and upstairs are exposed, right? So there's no screen on them. I think you can go walk over and like push right on the subwoofer stuff. And he knows not to touch the speakers. Like no thank you and you, we've grabbed him before. But he'll walk over there, and he'll do the like,

he's gonna put his hand on it, and then look back at me to see, and kind of mess with me. And so he's doing little things like that, but he doesn't run over, go, bro, now you don't gotta do. This is what you do. You'll never touch him.

Wait till he goes over. Wait till he touches it and turn it on. Full of ideas. Oh, yeah. He'll never touch it. Tra it on. Full of my skills. Who never ditches a traumatism. It's effective. Now, do you, do you with him before you put him down, do you dim the lights, do you manipulate the,

oh yeah, you guys do all that? So we, because that makes a big difference. No, I could turn and I have gotten really good about this. I mean, I've talked on the show before about the whole nerdy blue blocker thing and how, you know, I used to never do anything like that. And I used to scoff at people that would wear those things and stuff, but, you know, and maybe it's a getting older thing.

Like, I don't know, but for sure. It makes a difference because when I, if my kids forget, my older kids forget to put them on, more often than not, I'll talk to them the next morning. How was your sleep? And I could tell they were tired, because they didn't sleep as well. When I have them put it on, not only do they go to bed earlier, but they get better sleep.

Now I noticed with me big time. No, it's just, I just know, I look at the clock, okay, and I want to go to bed in an hour and a half, put on my Felix Grace, and I'm going to get better sleep. You know, it's funny, so I finally got my kids actually enjoy putting them on now, but my youngest was a lot like me back in the day. So did you guys ever have this thing about,

I'm not a poser. Whatever people were rocking certain clothes, they were a skateboard, but they weren't a skateboarder. They were wearing cowboy boots, you're not cowboy. So his whole thing was like, I don't need glasses. I see perfectly, why am I doing it? And so I had to like, it's been a long time of like convincing him that this is like a protection thing

from like all this screen, you like that you're taking in and it's affecting your sleep. Well, you know, Max is so young, so I obviously can't put glasses on him right now. But we won't even let him watch anything even close to bed because once that sun goes down, like definitely no iPad, no TV, no nothing because I notice a huge difference in his behavior. Like when we have different people watching, like obviously with the nanny, like she has

certain, like, rules and schedule, like what to do with him, but occasionally we have family friends or somebody that watches him. And we're not like, I mean, especially if it's a family that we're doing a favor, right? If I have like his, his aunt or something come over and watch him not like, I mean, especially if it's a family that we're doing a favor, right? If I have like his aunt or something come over and watch him, why can Trinidad do dinner or something, I'm not gonna be like, don't let him watch TV. It's like whatever, this one time, it's not a big deal. But it is, there is a stark contrast

in if he got, you know, hours of television in the day versus none whatsoever. So you can tell it stimulates their brain. It's totally, and we've done this enough times to like tease it out. And I just think that some, it's such a common practice in most people's homes that they don't really pay. They don't know. They don't know.

They just think that their kid is being kind of high strung today or he had a hard time going to sleep. But Katrina and I have made, we've done many, many times of like, he's gone weeks with no television, no iPad, no anything, all outdoor activity. And you can literally see the way his behavior is, how he sleeps, and how easily he goes down. That's important to monitor that and watch

and see what affects them so much. Those are the two things, is get sunlight when the sun is out. It sets your circadian rhythm, and that helps you produce more melatonin at night and get better sleep. And then avoid electric lights or light in general or if you have to, or glasses that block the blue light.

Those two things alone are natural. It's not a drug, it's not a pill, it's nothing to, you know, it's not a sedative. It's your body naturally sleeping the way it's supposed to be. I do in those things. And I think that most people don't recognize that because you've probably never teased it out. It's okay.

Everybody has at least one, if not multiple TVs in their house. Right. Most people now have smartphones and or iPads or all of the above. It's such a common practice that I doubt there's very, very many people that have young kids that have young kids that have just said, what would happen if we just did one week? One week, if we just agreed that we're going to, anytime the kids want to play, we're gonna go outside

or if it gets bored, we're gonna entertain fine ways to just not use tech for one week. And I guarantee if you did that, you would see enough, no, I'm not saying that we need to live like that all the time. I mean, I think I've told you already, I came out and said on the podcast, I didn't want even to introduce it to him, and I've totally broken that rule completely.

But I still respect the power of it, and the difference of his behavior when I let him, and I don't let him use it. So, we're very careful of how much time that he gets of any screen, whether it be a television or iPad, because it directly affects his behavior. Hey, real quick, I hope you're enjoying the podcast,

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What is the best way to build the peak of the bicep? Oh, the good old bicep. We haven't actually addressed this in a while, right? The whole targeting a part of the muscle. Yeah. This was an old mine-pub episodes when we came after your old boy over there, Stepan. Yeah, well, he said some stupid shit about making your

bicep longer with a preacher girl. Anyway, so back in the day, they would say that, obviously, exercises, different angles and all that stuff, they all have different value, right? And in some cases, you can work on different parts of a muscle, for example, with the chest, because of the multiple attachments along the sternum, it is plausible to work the upper chest and the middle part of the chest and the lower chest.

But with muscles like the bicep, where the attachments on the other end are so close to each other, there's two heads, that you're trying to work one over the other, you're kind of wasting your time. Now back in the day, what they would say is, well, this exercise works the bottom of the bicep. It'll make your arm longer. This one works the peak. It's gonna make the bicep a little taller here. And this one works the roundness, and this one does also, makes it thicker.

And this was all back in the 70s and 80s, right? During the kind of weeder, I think you got legs too, because when you do some of these exercises, you do feel more tension in a squeeze on a stretch. Right. And so you're like, oh, this is definitely working that part.

I feel it more there, which you can manipulate the strength curve, and there's value to doing that, right? So there's not value in doing a variety of different bites of exercises. I think it's very important to manipulate the angles. That's right. That's right. The position of the elbow and where the most tension is on there. There's tremendous value in utilizing it.

The answer to this is just, in order to work the peak of the bicep or develop the bicep more, the best thing that you can do is to do the things that you're not doing for your bicep. Build your bicep more, the best thing that you can do is to do the things that you're not doing for your bicep. Is the barrier, right? Yeah, but that's just it, right? So, you know, if you get, or here's the mistake I made as a young kid who was training a lot of biceps,

because I wanted this, right? You know, I got really good at doing these, you know, alternating dumbbell curls. I mean, I did that and then like a machine preacher, like a thousand times over, and watch my strength get better and better and better and better at it. I'm like, oh, I'm really strong in this area. But then I didn't really notice my biceps developing more. Well, one of the worst things that I could do in that situation is to keep doing those same exercises all the time in hopes that it's going to continue

to show progress in the size or the peak of my bicep. The best thing that I could do is to learn other variations of bicep curls and different elbow positioning which would manipulate and change the strength curve. That was the best thing that I could do to develop my bicep curls. Yeah, the exercise that they said back in the day that worked the bicep was your concentration curl, right? Anything with attention is at the squeeze of the exercise.

Now there's value in that that but it's not working The peak of the bicep any differently than Exercise where it maybe felt more at the stretch like a like a preacher curl or even like an incline curl the reality is if you want a good You know complete bicep workout look at elbow position and look at tension right so I like to pick exercises where my arms are by my sides, traditional dumbbell curl, barbell curl, maybe one where elbows in front of me, there's your preacher curl, and maybe one where an elbow is behind me, like a drag curl or an incline curl.

And then your full range of motion, you chin up, you know, something that you're going through, the entire range and you're getting tension with the throughout the entire muscle. So underrated, right? A palm, like a supinated grip, shin up where you're squeezing the biceps, and a lot of people aren't strong enough to do this.

But if you are, super intense. It's so underrated as an incredible bicep exercise. In fact, it's one of the best bicep exercises. It's a compound exercise for your biceps. That's one of the best ones that I can think of. But yeah, you can't, with the biceps, you can't focus on the peak or the bottom, or you can't lengthen it or shorten it.

The attachments are where they are. You can get make it bigger or smaller, but you can't change the, that's what, that's what happens when we do too much mirroring time. They don't even know. They don't even know. They don't even know. They don't even know. They don't even know. Next question is from Alie P. Fit. Do thermogenic fat burners actually do anything?

Oh, who picked these questions? These are like fun. You going down like super old small bodybuilders. Well, these are all questions that we've answered probably a hundred times. But back in the days, we haven't talked about some of this stuff in a long time, but I'm glad you are because I just got a text message yesterday from a buddy of mine who sent me over like some supplement company that I'd never heard of. And he's like, oh, my friend and my friend started this. I said, don't waste your money on all the fat burner ones and the claims all those. So it's, and those are the most popular, right? Those are sold the most. Because it's targeting the pain point that everybody has. I know, I know.

But yeah, it's the worthless, absolutely worthless. I mean, you're talking, we talk about the analogy of supplements being like the spoiler on the Honda, like fat burners, I don't even know where that would. That's the air freshener. There you go. That's the K&N sticker. That's what I was looking for. That's the K&N sticker.

Oh, yes, the sticker. So here's what you'll get with thermogenic fat burners. Thermogenic meaning that they increase the amount of calorie burn in the body. Do they do that to some extent, maybe a little bit? But really, what's the value in a fat burner? Why do they work for some people? Because they do for some people. Some people take fat burners.

Back in the day, the most popular fat burn, the one that was supported by studies was the affedra, caffeine, aspirin stack, the good old ECA stack. Oh, you felt that. Now, you took it and you would lose weight and people were like, this is burning body fat. No, not necessarily.

It's a very strong stimulant and appetite suppressant. So, if you take it throughout the day, because these are the recommended taking three servings, right? I don't care if it was hydroxy cut or... It was like legal mess. Or zanodrin or what I did was I just bought each of them independently and took my own. You take them three times a day,

they suppress your appetite. So if you've ever been on a strong stimulant, if you've ever taken like prescription aderol or riddle in, you know that you don't wanna eat much, and that's where the weight loss comes from. Now some of that, and then the movement and the jitter. You bring up something like, let's say, let's say,

you bring up something like, I mean, if you bring up something like aversa slag and all that kind of thing. I mean, if you're somebody who's never done something like that or if you've never had, you know, 600 milligrams of caffeine in a day or something like that, watch what you do. You're so amped in jittery and moving all day. So those little ticks all day long, add up. So you figure out all that moving

and the suppressing of the appetite. This is where the magic comes in. It's not because something in that supplement is actually burning. Right. Now someone may be watching or listening and think, oh, that's a good idea. So I want to suppress my appetite and I want to be hyped and be energized. So here's the problem. The body adapts very fast to those effects. Receptors start to get down regulated, your body stops producing or starts producing less of its own energy producing chemicals. And in a very short period of time,

okay, let's use caffeine as an example. That's a very common stimulant. Everybody uses caffeine. Think back to when you first used it, how amazing you felt. Now think about how it feels now to take it months or years later when you have it every morning. Now it just makes you feel normal.

And if you don't have it, you feel like dog shit. This is what happens with fab�ers. They work in the short term, but then your body adapts, now I need them just to feel normal. And then when I go off of them, which you will eventually, because otherwise it just feels terrible, when you go off of them,

you're gonna have like a two week period where it's the reverse. You have a lower energy, you feel like dirt, and your appetite goes through the roof through this period, this process. So what you end up seeing with this, if there is weight loss, is you see weight loss, plateau, weight gain when you go off. So no, fat burners are, unless you want the energy and you want the appetite suppressing effects, and you don't mind that it's short term, and you have a plan for post rebound or whatever, which most people don't.

But if you do, then maybe there's some specific value. But I never in my life recommended thermogenic fat burners to clients. I've never in my life said to a client, I know we're trying to burn body fat. I don't want to say never. I actually did back in the day when we were taught that this was effective. Once I learned that this is totally ineffective and probably doing people harm, I never would tell people to take a fat burner to help them burn body fat. Next question is from Young Devon 5.

What do you think about battle ropes and when is a good time to implement them in your workout? Oh, I remember them battle ropes. They're fun. They're fun. A thing. Yeah. I remember all the functional practitioners out there. This became one of their staple go-to moves. Honestly, it was fun for conditioning, and I thought it was a novel stimulus, but I

always struggled with implementing that into the actual program and a routine other than trying to get excess movement. So, for me, I just look at it as another way to add in activity, maybe it's on a recovery day or maybe your sports specifically where you have to move your hands really fast somehow. And so, maybe there's some value in it like MMA and boxing and that kind of community. But in terms of, you know, your every day average person, it's somewhat of a novel type of fitness tool. I don't really see like a ton of values.

It's like jumping rope for tough guys. You know, so it's jumping rope for tough guys. I liked it, dude, it's fine. I know you did it for a while. Yeah, I did. I mean, I had it for exactly. I had it for tough guys. That is right. Shipping rope for a while. Yeah, I do it. I mean, I had a break. Exactly. I had a, I had his wife, that is right.

Shipping room. He's like, he's tough, get it. Yeah. That's right, that's right. How do I let, I don't see you doing this, skipping. So, just as I fucked that, I'll do this. Yeah, I'll do this. This is really cooler.

Hey, hey, this is what's happening, it's working out. Right, he got his headphones on, I was like, how do I fucking let everybody in the gym know I'm functional? Yeah. And then I could fight. You can't do this. I'm a grab, I'm a grab these ropes. So, yeah, yeah.

I mean, getting rid of the ropes and then do that doesn't look really cool. I mean, I have, I have, I have for boot camp, you know, that this is back when I've talked before, like when I was running boot camp classes and. It's a conditioning tool. Yeah, it was a great way to keep people busy, you know, it's, you know, it's, what do we do between,

what do we do between the burpee stations and the stuff of the station? It replaced the jogging in place. It did. It really does. You're here. Hold on to these. And for sure, there's somebody right now watching. There's some trainers so offended right now because you know, you do that shit for

that reason. Yeah. You know, you keep your client busy. So they before they do the next exercise. Because, man, because really the, you know, the people that try and make the claims of like the shoulder movement and the thing, the benefit, like, cause, okay, you could sell anything, right?

Like, if I had to sell ropes, I could sell you on Ys Crate, but the truth is, the real benefits of it are not that much higher than somebody that literally doing jumping Jackson Place, right? Yeah. I mean, there's like a sport specific reason for it. You're right. There's no other.

Yeah. And of course, right away, I know the hardcore ballerope guys were like, oh, you were you talking about it? Have you ever done the, you know, the hammer move and the this move? Is that what they call it? Yeah. That's called it. No, what do they call it, Justin?

I don't know. You're okay. It's better when I use double waves. You're a double waves. I mean, you could try and make the case that, oh, it's working this muscle and you get this core movement. It's like, okay, I can also make the case for burpees and jumping jacks.

It's like, it's in the same category. It is. It's in the same category of just, you know, burning calories, keeping the body moving. You're gonna get, you gonna get stamina, endurance, you could get a lot of it in your shoulders, in your back. You can do power moves with it.

I mean, you can do slams and get your whole body involved. And so, I mean, it's sort of a safer way to implement some power moves in there, but like, honestly, yeah, it's very specific. I remember when it became a thing, I was watching, I don't remember what I was watching. I think it was the ultimate fighter, the reality show. And I see them using battle ropes and I'm like,

oh, this is gonna be in a gym now in the next month because it's cool and fighters are using it. And sure enough, that's what you ended up saying. I still think it's a missed opportunity. Should've had like the ropes, where it's two ropes and then a guy on the other side. So we're really battling it. I'm gonna fucking battle you, dude.

I'm gonna rip the rope off. I'm gonna rip the rope off. You said it would piss you. Yeah. I gotcha. Yeah, fucking battle you do Didn't we didn't we have a guy come out here and shoot some YouTube videos on the battle? Yeah, and he's great. He has all kinds of like good information around it and It's just like again. It's a novel. It's a novel type of fitness products Yeah, I mean, and so I guess you're getting back to the original question like what do we think about it was a good time to implement them in their workout? The it if I was bored of stere master or elliptical or running on the treadmill that day, that's what I would do. Yeah, or growing. It's like it's like it's a feathering like a conditioning type workout where you're trying to build stamina. It's and you want to do maybe upper body stamina on some lower body stamina. Do a crazy circuit with that. Now in a rower and an assault bike. Now, if you're doing it for power,

totally different. When you're doing it for power, you don't do it to fatigue. So the same rules apply for any power movement. You're not doing it to fatigue till your shoulders burn. You're doing explosive. You're expressing speed

and you're stopping before you get fatigued. In that case, I could see the case for it to be done at the beginning of a workout. If I'm explosive with it, I'll spend 10, 15 minutes to be done at the beginning of a workout. If I'm explosive with it, I'll spend 10, 15 minutes doing that, then going into my traditional workout. Yeah, and it gives you somewhat of a tangible thing to objectively look for. If I could get the waves to go all the way to the anchor point, like if I can do that and get a high enough wave and force my body down with enough speed, you know, so things like that, you

can pay attention to. Next question is from one corner, are spinal flexion exercises like crunches dangerous for your back? I hate, I annoys this shit, Adamine, when I hear people, especially fitness professionals, and even worse, doctors and specialists, who say things like this exercise is dangerous.

Don't do it. Right. And the latest one that annoys a shadow. I mean, is this whole like don't ever do exercises that flex the spine. Huh? Yeah. Does your spine flex and extend? It does.

It actually does. Guess what happens? If you never strengthen those movements, you lose them. No, yeah. Then you end up in a situation where you're more vulnerable. You accidentally flex your spine because you're in living your life and you end up injuring yourself.

I really wish that they would say that, like when they gave that advice, it would be like, for liability reasons, I have to tell you this. And then they went into explain, like in more depth. Because that's the reason why this is. Like I don't think a doctor, at least I hope a doctor is not that stupid, that there's not benefits in strengthening that movement, right?

Like, even if you, even if you just went into basic medicine, like you, and you know enough about the body, that know that that's strengthening that would be of values. Yeah. The problem is with the spine. Here's the issue with the spine, like, like, all joints. Now, the spine is made up of many, many, many moving parts and joints. And the problem is when you allow it to move to its end range of motion, meaning the joint can no longer flex. It can no longer flex. And what's stopping it is its own, the joint itself. And then you add load. And then what's supporting the load isn't your muscle, but rather the end range motion of the joint. Now you cause problems because now what's

holding that weight or whatever are your discs is the spine itself. And it actually is like a crunch on the floor. It's like there's very, very, well, are you talking about it? Yeah, there's nothing there's nothing going on there. That's that's bad. If you're doing it properly, look, I did a properly look I did a post on this stupidest one I've heard because I've definitely heard deadlifts and I've actually gotten my brother in law is like oh my dog's totally not I've heard this where they say every exercise for your core needs to be a neutral spine because that's what you need to start that. Oh you've heard that someone's heard that before which is insane well I we move robotically. I mean I understand like a full set up maybe for somebody who has just came out of like back surgery

or some issue and they're extremely... Oh, there's exceptions, of course. If you have like a few spine, you gotta be careful with how you move. Right, but I mean, even that person though, a crunch, I mean, your back is supported by the ground. And when you crunch, you're only rolling the spine up the time it's...

How do you get up off the ground? How do you get up out of bed? Any movement that you can do with full control, full stability, good strength, good mobility is safe. Any movement that is outside of that is dangerous. And it doesn't matter what the movement is. It doesn't matter if we're comparing a dumbbell curl to a Olympic clean to very different exercises

in terms of technique. If the dumbbell curl cannot be done with control, stability, strength, and proper mobility, it's dangerous, even though it's a very simple exercise. But yeah, you definitely don't want in with any movement. You don't want your joints to support the movement. What I mean by that is to give you an easier example because the spine is maybe a little more difficult.

If you look at my elbow, right? At some point, my elbow can't extend anymore. And that's not because my muscles won't allow, my bicep would allow more extension, but it's the actual elbow joint itself. This is it, that's as far as my elbow goes. Now, if I held a heavy weight in this position and I allowed my elbow to hold it

rather than tensing my bicep and holding it with my muscle. It's too relaxing. Yeah, so my joint is holding it, that's gonna cause joint damage. If you do that with your spine, the same thing. So even rounding your back is okay. So long as it's not the spine itself that's supporting you, it's the muscles around and you're not in your...

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