Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1576: Full Range of Motion Vs. Partial Reps, the Best Quick Muscle Building Foods for Hardgainers, How to Improve Vertical Jump & More

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about full range of motion vs partial reps during bodybuilding exercises, the differences between cardio from running and... cardio from pushing a heavy sled, the best snacks & quick foods to eat for hard gainers trying to get extra protein calories, and great exercises to improve one’s vertical jump. A podcast to listen to if you are an inspiring entrepreneur. (3:47) How people are ignorant to taxes and the value certain people bring to society. (11:05) Mind Pump Recommends, Loki on Disney+. (18:36) Stockpile, a brilliant company to invest in your child’s future. (24:11) Old sugar ads that dictate how silly the marketing companies were. (27:47) Internet sustainability searches up 71% since 2016! (30:19) That time Justin ACTUALLY enjoyed fish! (32:44) Aurelius’s baptism. (37:08) Will the FAA allow supersonic air travel to return? (39:00) The differences between male and female orgasms. (50:13) #Quah question #1 - Full range of motion during bodybuilding exercises, always? Or partial reps to keep tension on muscles for a bigger pump? Or both? (59:00) #Quah question #2 – Is there a difference between cardio from running and cardio from pushing a heavy sled? (1:05:16) #Quah question #3 – What are the best snacks & quick foods to eat for hard gainers trying to pack extra protein calories? (1:07:30) #Quah question #4 – What are great exercises to improve your vertical jump? (1:14:14) Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS Prime, Prime Pro, and the Prime Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “JUNEPRIME” at checkout** Mind Pump #1572: Is Tonal Worth The Money? With Aly Orady Marc Randolph Podcast– That Will Never Work FBI to probe billionaire IRS leak that revealed Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos paid little to federal tax Loki - Disney.com Stockpile - Your Favorite Stocks By The Dollar ‘Eco-Awakening’ Accelerates – WWF Report Reveals Internet Searches For Sustainable Goods Increased By 71% Since 2016 Visit Public Goods for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Receive $15 off your first Public Goods order with NO MINIMUM purchase** Word on Fire United Airlines Wants To Bring Back Supersonic Air Travel. Will the FAA Let It? JRE #1665 - Carole Hooven T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us Visit Blue Chew for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! How To Improve YOUR Work Capacity (6 MOVEMENTS) | MIND PUMP TV Why Calories Matter for Hardgainers – Mind Pump Blog Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #900: NBA Superstar Sports Performance Coach Paul Fabritz Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Marc Randolph (@thatwillneverwork)  Instagram Bishop Robert Barron (@bishopbarron)  Instagram Jordan Shallow D.C (@the_muscle_doc)  Instagram Carole Hooven (@hoovlet) on Twitter Paul J. Fabritz (@pjfperformance)  Instagram Max Schmarzo (ATC/CSCS/MS) (@strong_by_science)  Instagram Cory Schlesinger (@schlesstrength)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mindpop. All right, in today's episode, we answered some fitness and health questions that were asked by our audience, but the way we opened is with, by talking about, current events, we talked about scientific studies. This is the intro portion of the episode,
Starting point is 00:00:30 which lasted 53 minutes. After that, we got to the fitness questions. So here's what went down in today's mind pump episode. Oh, yeah. Sorry about talking about Mark Randolph and starting a business. He's the guy that founded Netflix and Adam dropped some good business.
Starting point is 00:00:45 He kind of knows what I'm doing. Pretty cool stuff. Then we talked about Jeff Bezos. Didn't pay income taxes. Oh my goodness. But is that really everything? So we talked about that. Give us some money, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Then we talked about Loki, the show on Disney Plus. The first episode was really, really good. So we kind of talked about that a little bit. Then I brought up a company called Stockpile. That's really cool. Great way to give gifts, especially for children. Then I talked about old sugar ads. I bet you don't believe that. In the 1970s, they were telling women to eat sugar to curb their appetites. That's kind of cool. Then we talked about internet sustainability searches. They've been up 71% for the last
Starting point is 00:01:22 five years. People are now interested in environmentally friendly or conscious companies. It's a market demand now. One of the best companies that does this is public goods. Now, public goods provides lots of household products through their website, but they're very environmentally conscious. And the prices are incredible. In fact, you actually paid less going through them than buying all that stuff that kills the environment that seems to be cheap at your local safe way. Great company, go check them out. By the way, if you use our code, you get $15 off your first purchase.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Go to public goods.com forward slash mind pump. Use the code mind pump at checkout to get that $15 off. Then we talked about Justin eating sushi. He finally did it. Oh man. And it was great. Then I talk about my son's baptism tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:02:09 It's a lot of fun. Then we brought up how there's a new supersonic commercial jet that might be hitting the market. That's cool. And then we talked about orgasms. That was a good conversation there. Yeah, I got exciting. Then we got to the fitness questions.
Starting point is 00:02:21 The first one, this person says, what's better for bodybuilding? Full range of motion or partial reps. The first one, this person says, what's better for bodybuilding, full range of motion or partial reps? The second question, this person wants to know if there's difference between cardio, from running and cardio, from pushing a heavy sled. The third question, this person wants to know what the best snacks and quick foods are
Starting point is 00:02:37 for hardgainers trying to pack on the size. And the final question, this person wants to know great exercises to improve vertical jump. Also all month long, we've got two programs and a program bundle on sale. So maps prime, maps prime pro, and the prime bundle, which is both of them and already discounted, are all additionally discounted by 50%. This is great huge promotion. You can go check them out at mapsfitnessproducts.com. Just use the code June Prime with no space for that
Starting point is 00:03:10 discount. T-shirt time! And it's T-shirt time! You know it's my favorite time of the week! Maybe the best yet. We have two big winners this week. One for Apple podcasts, one for Facebook, the Apple podcast winner is Lindsay RG and for Facebook, we have Dylan Taylor monks. Both of you are winners and the name I just read to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Mark Randolph, right? Founder of Netflix, we interviewed him.
Starting point is 00:03:50 What a great interview, right? Oh, good time. Yeah, it was Mark guy. Yeah, it was a fun one. I'm actually, I'm really excited. So the audience knows that we just released this. So I believe the last four interviews that we have done are the four best interviews,
Starting point is 00:04:03 minepump is recorded yet. Probably. In my opinion. I could, yeah. And you know that. Tonal are the four best interviews. Mind pump is recorded yet. Probably. In my opinion. I could. Yeah. And you know that. Tonal was the first one of those. Five actually.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Five or five Doug. We got. I think probably five. Yeah. Actually the last five I thought were the bed. Tonal was the first one of the five that we've released. Mark Randolph will be another one that's coming out that I thought was just a really fun conversation.
Starting point is 00:04:25 But since then, I bought his book, and I've listened to Damn Near Almost all his episodes on his podcast. If you are a aspiring entrepreneur or you're trying to build a business in any capacity, the value of his podcast is unbelievable. I mean, it's, you know what he does? All the fat out.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But also, you know what he does? He communicates what's effective in an easy to understand effective way. He, I think sometimes people communicate what he's saying, but they do in a way that's not, it's hard to apply or understand. He completely kind of shattered my paradigm as far as the way I looked at like I did.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I like, I wish that I had found his content before I probably tried eight different businesses before. Yeah. Because one of the number one things that I see people make as far as mistakes when trying to start a business is over complicating, testing their theory. So you have an idea whether it be this app that's going to provide this for people or this shirtline or that.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, this market place, it's going to connect these two different. So your first iteration costs tens of thousands of dollars. That's right, or it takes you months or years to build and you need partners and you need possibly money. When all you need to do is swing the bat, does the sea. Yeah, and he does this and he gets these so his whole podcast He does not interview big people at all. He have he interviews average people in Bayes, he has a coaching them Yeah, that's all the it's a literally like a 30 40 minute that's so effective coaching session
Starting point is 00:05:58 And he gets entrepreneurs that are like an inception like they just have the idea and they're getting ready to put it in a play He gets people that are, you know, midway through funding. I mean, you get all this array of like levels of entrepreneurship. And the one thing that, the common thing that I keep hearing from him is this, you know, trying to get people to look at applying their ideas or testing their hypothesis without having to build the final
Starting point is 00:06:26 product or go into all this debt to try and show that it's brilliant idea. Like, I just think it's... That's probably the biggest roadblock. Yeah. Is that people have an idea? There are these companies. And they think in order to start testing their idea, it's too expensive, takes too much time. So I'm not going to do that. When reality, you can find a way to test it in a very inexpensive way,
Starting point is 00:06:47 and it's more to do that anyway because you never know. Well, that's the trend here in Silicon Valley, especially because it's, everybody was so basing their ideas on, can I get funding for this? Yeah. And so it became like all these incubators and all these things popped up to try and like prop up that idea. And it was like a common thing, but a lot of these companies don't exist now.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Well, you know that, or just the idea that an app is the answer. Yeah. Like so many, especially here, like where we're at in the Silicon Valley, like it is app land, you know, everybody wants to build. Everyone has this next great app idea. Do you guys know what the fail rate is with apps? I don't know. I know it's's through the roof.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, it's 80 or 90 something percent. Yeah, it's extremely high as far as the fail. And then not only that, but expensive the most successful apps are like free tools. So the ones and the ones that make the most money are games. So if you have this concept of an app that you think is just gonna change how people do business, you should, I mean, it changed, I mean, Justin and I, when we first originally were building our app, I remember we pivoted halfway through because we found that out as we were in the
Starting point is 00:07:53 middle of trying to build this avatar building. That has to be, by the way, the most guaranteed thing that will happen to you when you start a business is you're going to have to pivot and change? Yeah, he says it in his podcast. Like, never does the, I forget how he, he says it never looks at the end. Oh, yeah, yeah, the adult version never looks like the, the infant, you know, like it,
Starting point is 00:08:16 it grows to be something completely different. That's just, that's how business works. So, so try and mitigate, you know, the amount of income that you're putting towards that, like in the beginning stages especially. Well, it even makes me go back, okay, so let's use us for an example, just me because this obviously,
Starting point is 00:08:31 it stings for me because of how much money I lost trying to build the app, right? So Justin and I were building this app that was going to gamify fitness. I actually, I think it was a, I still think it's somewhat of a brilliant idea and we put a lot of effort into it and we started to build it out and spend a lot of money with the engineers. But what we should have done was drawn it all on paper and try to gather people and take them through it manually.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Until we are just overwhelmed with, oh my god, everybody wants to do this. People are giving us money to take them through this physical game of fitness in person and then he goes and then when you do that now you have real real tangible metrics that you can take to investors and say look it. I have this idea for it. I've already got the demand. Yeah I've had an idea for this app or whatever I thought. It was proof of concept. I've showed yeah I've showed proof of concept in this. I'm overwhelmed. I'm my buddy, my partner and I have got people banging down our door.
Starting point is 00:09:28 They want us to take us to this video game version of fitness that we've came up with. And they love it. Here's all the reviews. And then now let's go try and spend $70,000 and $100,000 on a nap and prove that they're, and I just don't know, I mean, I'm so mad at myself for not seeing. Yeah, you can't though't know, I mean, I'm so mad at myself or not.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, you can't though, dude. I mean, you learned, you learned by crying and... Part of the education, unfortunately. Yeah, and when you hear Mark Randolph, who's started and sold companies and been just extremely successful, what you're hearing is the black belt version of Mark, and I'm sure if you talked to him when he first started, he might have been able to communicate this. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So it's hard to beat yourself up, self-op over something that you couldn't have. Yeah, but I mean, to me, but it is great that there's that resource now. And yeah, and it's such a simple concept when you actually think about it. It's brilliant. It is.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's such a, I mean, can you take, so if you're listening right now, while watching the show and you're an entrepreneur and you think you have this brilliant idea, can you distill it down to its simplest form and manually go do it and test your hypothesis until you are up at two o'clock in the morning because you're just overwhelmed with clientele.
Starting point is 00:10:34 The demand just screams like it's right. And he says what's beautiful about that is, along the way in that process, you learn so many other things. Like, you know, if we were to take our app, for example, with the games, we think this level's perfect here than there. Well, we were taking people manually through it.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Like, tell us. Oh, shit, that was too hard. Instead of making the app spending $100,000 on it, and then being like, oh, this is a win. Then trying to get, yeah, the audience and the community to get behind it. That's right. Creating it simultaneously.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So cool. You know, talking about him and successful people to get behind you. That's right. It's creating it simultaneously. So cool. I know. You know, talking about him and successful people reminds me of just this boy if I've been getting going back and forth with people on the internet with, have you guys seen that report that came out about Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk? Not paying taxes.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Not paying income taxes. I love that. And people are like, oh my god. They're losing their mind. Yeah. So I'm going back and forth with people. And I love it because I don't love it. I love that. And people are like, oh my God. They're losing their mind. Yeah. So I'm going back and forth with people. And I love it because I don't love it. I'm excited to do it.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I love debating and discussing things. But people are, and this is not, I'm not trying to be offensive. People are completely ignorant to first off how taxes work, but also to the value that certain people bring to society, they ignore that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So let's talk about taxes for a second, right? Let's talk about Jeff Bezos. He might have paid no income taxes, and that, by the way, is because he probably made no income. His wealth, he wasn't taking income in it. Right, his wealth is reflected in his probably shares, which he hasn't realized, I mean, he hasn't sold them, so he made nothing.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So that's his wealth, and he probably doesn't take income instead of reinvest it in the company. Also, he pays, Amazon pays millions of dollars in other taxes, corporate taxes, and other taxes to states. And then you look at the employees that he employs and the taxes that they pay. So all the revenue that government's getting
Starting point is 00:12:21 because of the inception of Amazon is like, insane. Billions, billions of them. But here's the, in say, billions, billions of billions. But here's the part that annoys the shit out of me. So I had people ever messaging me. So I did a DM, I did a post right at my story. I'll read what I did. I posted a picture of the, the, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:36 the actual articles or whatever. Yeah, share that with Andrew. So he has a, yeah, I'm gonna share that with them. So, so he can read it. And so it says, know IRS launchers investigation Showing that Elon Musk and Jeff baseless paid zero income tax and I said oh my god They kept their own money the goal of these people how dare they risk their own capital and work their asses off to build companies that consumers find so Incredibly valuable that they voluntarily give them billions of dollars and then legally pay only the taxes they're required to pay obviously I'm being sarcastic so I had people who were sending me DMs and like,
Starting point is 00:13:05 well, they need to pay their fair share, which is, by the way, that's a political term. What the hell is fair share actually mean? So I had this one guy who I talked to all the time, and he's like, I bust my ass and I paid 30% income taxes. They need to pay their fair share. So sorry, well, first off, let's paint the context properly first.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Let's talk about Jeff Bezos. Yeah. He is easily, Jeff Bezos. Yeah. He is easily, Jeff, now I don't know of the guy, so I'm not saying I like him, I'm not saying what a good guy, I'm just, this is just subjective. Yeah. He's easily one of the most productive
Starting point is 00:13:35 and innovative people of all time. And what I mean by productive is he actually created something that people valued so much that they voluntarily have given him billions and billions and billions of dollars. And the impact that he's had because of his innovations and his own willingness to risk his own capital has changed society so much that if Amazon disappeared today, we would be like in a totally different place.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So he started, I mean, it was basically like an online bookstore, like a struggling online bookstore, and then it just kept, it became like the store for everything online. Amazon has dramatically increased the efficiency brought products to us created businesses, not just employed people, but it's done. Yeah, you know, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:17 you're being in the structure and you're tame, and how many, how many entrepreneurs that do you know actually make most of their money through Amazon? Right, yeah. I mean, we have friends that have... They built all the commerce, they're multi-million dollar companies that they...
Starting point is 00:14:31 Would it be possible? Yeah, they rely on their ability to market through. Oh, this is on. It's impossible to quantify the incredible impacts. All we know is that it's obviously valuable, so valuable that people have given them voluntarily, nobody's forced them, but voluntarily given them billions and billions and billions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And so that's what he's done. So I said to the sky, I said, all right, let's talk about fair share. You want to compare yourself to Jeff Bezos? Why aren't you producing your fair share of innovation and productivity? Because it would take a billion of you and what you do to do what he did for obviously society at large. Just to paint the right context, it just annoys me so bad because here you are, and again, I don't know the guy, I don't know what kind of person he is or whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:19 but one thing I do know is because of him, because of his innovations, because of his willingness to risk his capital and all that stuff, he's made such an incredibly positive impact as evidenced by the amount of money that people willingly give him, that rather than looking at him and saying, I know we gave him our money voluntarily,
Starting point is 00:15:40 because he brought me a lot of value, but he needs to give up more of that for. It also, do you really think that a billion dollars with him would be less efficient and effectively used than a billion dollars to the government, the most wasteful, but it did fall suddenly. I understand why people can't just look at him like the Elvis of business.
Starting point is 00:15:58 You know, like he's at the, he's completely like the king of business. Like he's, he he's mastered things that people that are business owners can only dream of doing and has done it in such a way that like is, I mean, it's almost impossible to replicate what he's done. And so to reward him in terms of like, that's just a signal of value that he's providing.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Oh, look, I'll give you another example. So it irritates the shit out of people, but it's true. Like, let's look at like saving trees, right? Trees are good. They give us oxygen. They clean the air. If we killed all the trees, we'd be in a big trouble. What saved more trees?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Environmental activists or innovations that now make us use email and digital technology, right? So my point with that is this type of productivity innovation has tremendous, tremendous positive impact. And so I don't know, and you know the problem is is that politicians, they're very good at this. Nobody's better than politicians at this. They're very good at creating angles
Starting point is 00:16:58 and demonizing people and then hitting your insecurities as a person to make you feel like that's a good thing. So rather than saying, Jeff Bezos, Amazon has paid millions and millions of millions of dollars of taxes because it's not just income taxes, lots of other taxes. And Amazon has generated so much revenue for the government just indirectly and directly because of the companies that work with them and the people that buy their products and the employees that work there and all that stuff. Rather than saying all that, what they say, you pay income taxes, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Therefore, he's evil. And people go, yeah, I think he's evil. But that's crazy to me. Well, it's really for the shock value that you get from the title. And that is what gets clicks. That's what gets people to read the article. And if you don't understand how business works,
Starting point is 00:17:42 it's really easy to get fired up, share with your friend. Can you believe this? You know, we're making women on wage over here, it's really easy to get fired up, share with your friend. Can you believe this? You know, we're making women on wage over here and I'm getting tax hold of this and this billionaire is not paying anything. Like, you can't see that, right? You know, they don't see that. So I'm, look at, I don't know if he's a good guy or a bad guy,
Starting point is 00:17:58 but luckily, no one's defending his country. Luckily, the way our market works is if you want money, you can be greedy or go whatever, you still gotta give people what they want to get it. Yeah. By the way, he doesn't work for government. People who work in government get money because they legislate and force you.
Starting point is 00:18:12 They don't do anything to earn your money. They actually force you to do that. He has made his money because so many people like what he does that they give it to him. So that's a great, that's something that we need to consider. And when you see these incredibly productive innovative people,, you got to think to yourself at what they've done and you think, oh, that's cool. That they exist. Yeah, that's cool that they exist and that they did this, you know, right. Speaking of greedy and evil people, I was so impressed with Loki.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Oh, that's a great movie, right? I mean, great show. I mean, it's only the first episode that they've released, but I was skeptical of it. I wasn't that excited to watch it. I was like, I will see how it is. It, um, Disney's got the best writers. You know, they're so good. It has. That in HBO the best. Now, you guys really didn't like the, you know, wand division and then the, the, um, I liked wand division, but it took like four episodes. So at least four, yeah. Which is good. Well, and that's, I think that's sort of the conundrum that new content has coming out because it's,
Starting point is 00:19:15 it's like you're trying to develop all these new characters a totally different way of going through a story. And so that kind of had that. It's a whole new story, what do you think about it? It's just sharing characters from a, it's not familiar right away. So you really have to stick with it. And then once you stick with it, it's it pays out. But Loki rathagates. But yeah, Loki is good. It's very interesting right away. Very premise. Now, do you like it the best out of those three, right? So the one division, the what's what was the other way that I cannot think of the title for the
Starting point is 00:19:43 I did not like the like the didn't like the hawk and, winter soldier. Yes, winter soldier. Thank you. You didn't like that one. My buddy really liked that one. Really? Yeah, he liked it.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Maybe I gotta give it a better chance. Yeah, he watched two episodes, I don't like it. He liked them all and it might be the same reason. It might just have taken, it might take more episodes to build the storyline. You know why I don't like it? Because in this and my own bias, there's certain superheroes that I think are dumb, like, uh, hawk eye. Uh, I can shoot accurately. I don't like it because in this is my own bias, there's certain superheroes that I think are dumb,
Starting point is 00:20:05 like Hawkeye, I can shoot accurately. I don't care, that's the dumbest superhero I've ever seen. Yeah, I would have scoop it. And then, what's his name Falcon? So I find that fun. I find that fun. You got high tech wings? I find that fun.
Starting point is 00:20:17 What are you doing? I find that funny that you guys pick it apart like that. That's because the whole fucking thing is over the top ridiculous. Well, here's the thing, it apart like that. That's because I know because it's the whole fucking thing is over the top ridiculous. Well, here's the thing. It's like, it's one thing to create and develop the technology that produced like something crazy like those wings or like, like, to have it. It's like, okay, so you just have cool shit.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I'm supposed to think you're a superhero. No, do you know if same writers are doing low-key as any of the other one? It has a very Mandalorian-esque feel to me. I feel like it's written more like that than the other ones that we've seen so far. Well, Loki is such an interesting character because he's the one always causing mischief and all that. So I'm actually excited to see where it goes from there even because that's interesting storywriting. Yeah, but without giving it away, the angle on the twist that they used to start it off, I would have never imagined. And it was so good, I'm so excited to watch, I can't wait for the second episode.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It is such a good job. Well, it's just funny because there's no other example really of constructing an entire universe of options than what Marvel's done so far. Even Star Wars, they're trying to catch up to that. It's so big and so vast, and to be able to connect all these different timelines and all these different stories and characters and combine them together. I mean, that takes a lot of brilliant writers. Is there a name for the style they used? Oh, I know what you mean. In terms of the because there was a very stylistically speaking without giving it away again, the tech that you see
Starting point is 00:21:51 in Loki, it's advanced technology, but it looks the way that you that 1960 sci-fi would have picked it would have picked it. Well, yeah, it's obviously in the future, but then there's things like a paper printer being done. So there's this contrast of like- It's like to Maro Land. Yes, and which I love, because they're sort of wrapping that in because in Disneyland you see their vision of what the future was gonna look like.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So it's got that 1960 phrase. They're portrays that a bit. So I've seen another show that did a really good job of this. And I think the way you describe it sounds really good. It's like, if it was 1960, this is what they guessed 2040 would look like. Yes. And so some things you could tell, maybe they got right or some things are like, oh, wow, they couldn't, they couldn't see beyond the paper printer.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And so that's still there. Just stylistically very interesting. Yeah, what is, is there a name for that? Okay, so they do this with steampunk, right? So the style steampunk is supposed to be like high tech, but with like old looking stuff. So I'm sort of Western looking antique stuff. Yeah, but I don't know what they would use for that.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I don't know, art, I mean, what would you do it? Art deco sci-fi, like I don't understand. I bet you there's, I'm sure we're gonna get a DM from somebody who's like, who's into this because I think there's gotta be a name to that style because it's not so unique that you've never seen it before. I've seen it done in movies before. So there should be a name.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And it didn't, was it the fifth element that did that well too? Like there's certain movies that have played with stuff like that where something, the galaxy, forget what it's called, but like some concept in Loki that I really liked was the whole bureaucratic element. And so they brought a lot of that into this. Yeah, it is like the DMV like inside.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And they brought that in there, which is I think is brilliant. So yeah, I'm excited to see where that series goes. No, it's smart because especially with sci-fi, sometimes sci-fi tries too hard to be accurately predictive. And so then it's kind of having fun with it a little. Yes, like this makes it, you wanna watch it because dialistically it's appealing.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Right, because like what you're talking about, there's obviously things in it where you're like, okay, if this really were the future. It is really the future. He wouldn't be using a print, it does something like this. That's so out there, but it's funny and it's fun. So I like to punch card or, you know, it's like that, like that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah. No, it's brilliant. Speaking of brilliant, by the way, so I'm getting, I want to talk about this, no affiliation, but I want to talk about the company stockpile. I think it's such a brilliant company. I love it.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I love it. So for people, again, we have no affiliation whatsoever, but I discovered them back when Max, when Adam's son, Max, what, how old was he? Was he, you gave it to me when he was born? When he was born, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, you've gifted him twice, but the initial one, you're the one that introduced it to me. And I think I was talking about how I want to find this was before he was born, my biggest concern was I didn't want to spoil him with gifts and have all my,
Starting point is 00:24:47 we have such a big family, Katrina's family. And so, there's been no but too much. Yeah, and we were talking about different ways to invest for him or get the family behind doing that. And you introduced me to that by giving him. Yeah, it's so smart. Like you can literally go in there, you can create an account, you can go in there, and then you can gift a kid or whoever,
Starting point is 00:25:06 and a dollar amount to be invested in any stock company or any company, and it doesn't have to be the price of the share. So like let's say a company's shares are $347. You can buy $50 worth, and they'll get $50 worth of that share, and they make it easy. So tomorrow's, as of the recording of this tomorrow is a railing system baptism, which I'm super pumped about.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's like a big first big thing for my son. And in our tradition, family, especially Italian families, they give money, they give a lot of money. And traditionally what you do is you put it in a bank account, but then it just sits there. It doesn't do anything, right? So with stockpile, I sent it to my whole family, and now they're sending me gifts of stock. And it's cool because either they'll pick a stock,
Starting point is 00:25:51 which I think is cool, or they'll just give me a mount and then I'll pick it myself. And now instead of just sitting there, like my dream, obviously, what this is at, you know, I realize this 18 is an adult, and I go, here's your investment account that you, for your birthday, your baptism, your communion, you know, it releases 18ies and adult and I go, here's your investment account that you, for your birthday, your baptism,
Starting point is 00:26:07 your communion, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah. People were investing in. Yeah, I like it. It's really cool. They also really simplified to like with categories. So like if you're interested in like green tech and you don't know any companies or what I thought,
Starting point is 00:26:18 like it'll give you all the, so small. And then what is that called where you can, you can invest in multiple, like mutual funds? Yeah, where there's like three stock, like the three best stocks in this category and then you can put and you can put any amount Like you said if someone just gives you $50 Doesn't matter if that cost you know 400 something it you can get a you know part
Starting point is 00:26:37 Partly stuff like this and Robin Hood and all these apps that are making investing easy for the average person, because it used to be unattainable in the sense that, if you wanna invest, it's like, I don't know what it to do. I gotta talk to like a stock broker. Yeah, what do I do? And I don't, right? But now, making it so accessible, I can only see investment in companies just continue
Starting point is 00:26:59 to grow because the average person, now it's easy. Oh, I can talk to them. Well, I remember my very first, you know, Charles Schwab account that I opened up like long time ago. And I remember being so discouraged because I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I didn't know that, but I knew that I wanted to put some of my money in.
Starting point is 00:27:15 So I knew that was, everyone said it was smart to do that. And I go down there and you don't get any help. Like, and you, That's like a quarter million dollars. Quarter million is a minimum. I know. And you know, I was all excited.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm bringing my first 10 grand. Yeah. I'm like, I'm serious. Like, is a minimum. I know. And you know, I was all excited. I'm bringing my first 10 grand. I'm serious. I'm serious about this stock thing. Here's my first 10 grand. And I'm like, yeah, could I get someone to help me? They just chuckle at you. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah. Happened to me too. Quarter million to manage. And then you got to pay for that also. Right. So I was like, oh, that's kind of stupid. Where this is definitely making it accessible for it pretty much anybody much anybody. Yeah speaking of stupid. You got it Doug Can you pull up the pictures that I sent you?
Starting point is 00:27:50 These are ads. I want to say from the 60s just to show you how messed up the marketing world is and it's still messed up today. I think it's hilarious But this will be this makes it clear because now we know certain things It's like when you see like old cigarette ads, you ever seen those old cigarette ads? Yeah, yeah. Four to five doctors recommends camels for, for coughs or whatever, yeah. So these, look at this. I don't know if you can, you can open that up.
Starting point is 00:28:15 This is sugar keeps your energy up and your appetite down. These are ads from the sugar industry, and I want to say 60 claims already wrong. 60s are 70s. I sent you another one, Doug, if you could pull that one up. So the first one says, sugar keeps your energy up and your appetite down. And then there's another one that, what does that one say? Sugar can be the willpower you need to under eat. So, and there's more.
Starting point is 00:28:39 In these ads, they were basically what they're pushing is they're saying that sugar is a great way to curb your appetite And then it's got like a woman eating ice cream. That's crazy. The media is always pretty on points. Yeah, it's really surprising. Look at their strategy is enjoy an ice cream before you have lunch. Oh, I have to open these up.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Look at this. I'll read that one. Man. Here's what the, and it's the, it's, it's basically the sugar in, I don't know, organizations like they all came together, but it says, when you're hungry, it usually means your energy's down. By eating something with sugar in it, you can get your energy up fast.
Starting point is 00:29:14 In fact, sugar is the fastest energy food around. And when your energy's up, there's a good chance, you'll have the willpower to under eat at meal time. So how's that first sweet idea? Sugar, only 18 calories per teaspoon, and it's all energy brought to you by diabetic pharmaceuticals. Yes. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:29:34 God you, isn't that great? Wow, that's crazy. I like looking at stuff like this, because it's easy to see, because it's old, so it's clear. Yeah. Still, I do shit like this, that will in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:29:44 So I see where it stems from. And is this actually just straight sugar advertising that they all get together? Like, and then, yeah. Okay, and then they were gonna have. So it's like the sugar industry, and because they have an ingredient, and they want to promote it or whatever,
Starting point is 00:29:57 so they're showing you that sugar is great for, I don't know, willpower, with that loss. That's so wild. The funny thing is, it does the opposite. Yeah, it literally does the opposite of what they're claiming. If you're hungry, have sugar, it makes you hungry.
Starting point is 00:30:11 You're really bad. Really bad. Isn't that hilarious? It's good for your teeth. I know, that's crazy. Speaking of consumers and markets, I read this cool, I'm gonna pull it up as quote, about consumer kind of demands and searches and stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So check this out. The popularity of internet searches for sustainable goods around the world, this is over the last five years, right? So people are now searching for sustainable goods or companies that have sustainable goods. In the last five years, it's got 71%. Wow. So it's going up 71%. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So it's now become a big market driver where people are not just looking for good products, and this is more true for wealthy countries. They're also looking for companies that are environmentally aware and conscious. Yeah, so, meers, thrive, public goods, yeah, they all. This made me think of public goods because that's like a big part of who they are, right?
Starting point is 00:31:09 They give you good products, super inexpensive, by the way. I'd say, hell of money, shopping through them. Well, which used to be the big barrier because anytime you had these types of messages out there, it was always like they'd slap like a higher price point on there. Yeah, which I mean understandable too, that you kind of had to before. You did.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, I mean if you're going to go give, if you're going to go help get, you know, get built wells, you know, in Africa somewhere, right? If you're going to go do that, and you're also going to sell a product, and you're also going to make it like green, you know, you're going to spend more money so you normally have to charge the consumer, but that was what was so brilliant about public goods, basically becoming the Costco wholesale version of those types of products was absolutely brilliant. Yeah, I mean, it's less expensive and environmentally conscious, which I mean, I don't know how you beat that combination.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, and you can reduce the amount of chemicals that we're exposing ourselves to, which is what I really like to shop on public goods Oh, yeah, so I actually it's such good timing too because one of the areas they save a ton of money is in like the branding and so I that and that's become very popular in the last decade like remember like in the 80s and the 90s like Wild colors and crazy graphics and logos. Oh, yeah, and now And now the this generation is like simple, clean. And so the whole idea of this black and white, one ingredient, you see a lot of companies doing that. Yeah, so simple is definitely the look today,
Starting point is 00:32:37 which feeds perfectly into a company that's not spending a lot of money on doing a bunch of cool stuff. Speaking of simple, the sushi guys that you had put on. And I say simple because good sushi is not super complex or fat or fancy. Well finally you guys exposed me to good sushi. Bro, I am so proud of you. That's really what my desired outcome of doing that,
Starting point is 00:32:59 because I wasn't sure how you guys were going to receive it to do it. So we had basically two sushi chefs come to the house. Like legit from Japan. Yeah, legit. Oh, how cool was it when? I'm so. I'm so mad that we did. We did for the audience, we did not.
Starting point is 00:33:16 There was a point in the night where we are having a great time, having drinks and just talking business. And the way the chefs do this is, it was like a four or five hour dinner, right? So. Yeah, we're basically doing our business meeting, but they're bringing us this like incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And at one point, Doug breaks off, and he's talking in Japanese to the two guys back and forth. And I nudge Sal, and then Sal, fumbles around to get his phone, and by the time it gets over there Doug's done talking to him and I was like ah that would have been such a cool clip for the audience to see Doug's I know but but I do want to say so for people don't know Justin is not a fish fan at all and one time to They suck and then just so you know yeah fish and one time
Starting point is 00:34:04 They suck and then just so you know, yeah, fish and one time We were in Tahoe and we were all hungry and And just in Doug Adam and I were making fun of Justin for night. You know, sushi They might have fish sticks there. We take it to a chicken egg terrible terrible sushi Yeah, so we go to a sushi place finally convinced Justin. He's like fine. I'll try it and it's the worst sushi ever Yeah, yeah, go to a sushi place, finally, Kimmins Justin, he's like, fine, I'll try it. And it's the worst sushi ever. Yeah, it was, it was a gas station sushi. It was gross. Yeah, it was, it was, it was pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:34:32 We won't name the company. And that ruined it. After that, Justin's like, never gonna try it again. Fuck, it was done. Yes, but then, you know, now we have the sushi set in Chefscom and Justin agrees. All right, I'll give it a shot. Yeah, what was I, what was the experience for you?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah, so I mean, I was a little bit, I was trying to like wrap my brain around it and not have the same associations. And so that's what I was just like really trying to focus on, man, this, like the preparation, the freshness of it, like the authenticity of the cooks that were preparing it, all that kind of stuff, I'm trying to focus on all that. And then the first round of what they presented
Starting point is 00:35:12 would just look amazing. So the presentation of it was, you know, part of that whole experience was helpful for me. And then I started eating it and I'm like, oh, okay, you know, this is tasty. I can give this a go. There's some stuff I still, I just don't like it. You didn't have the oyster. I can give this a go. There's some stuff. I still Just don't you didn't have the oyster didn't have the oyster too far. Yeah, I just I'm
Starting point is 00:35:31 Slurping that in is just not I just can't do it. You're not ready for that. I'm not ready Maybe a baby steps to get way better than I did the first time I had sushi. Yeah, I know people watching right now Or a younger like what are you talking about this? feel like a little kid talking about this. This is fuck. 20 years ago like sushi was a big like if you went to one I was like oh my god. We weren't like popular like they are now and the first time I had sushi was California Is that true? They're not they're they're way more popular today. Is that true? No, yeah, he's talking about the side of his neck. Is it always been like a thing? Oh, no, no, no, when I was when I was a young When I was a kid I'd never even heard of it. Yeah, really?
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah. No, dude. My kids now grow up eating it. I didn't have sushi for the first time, so I was like, I mean, I didn't eat it, but I also grew up in like, the, you know, frickin' valley, like, Koda, yeah, but I bet there's sushi restaurants there now. You might find one or two.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, there might be one there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a small town and like, it's, yeah, there's not a lot of culture there. No. So, so you did better than I did my first time now how did you feel after because one of the things that I like about sushi Especially good especially like the simple stuff. Yeah, is you just feel so good? Yeah, just it easy and totally easy It was light like I yeah, I felt like You know how you feel like a weight after you eat a really like heavy meal like it none of that. I just felt like good Yeah, it was really good. I was I appreciate it. I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was good time
Starting point is 00:36:50 That was a very good. Yeah, I was a really I had a really good time I had a great Justin invited this designer guy over who Sal Doug and I had never met before and we had great Conversation and I mean show we were up to almost midnight just chopping it up and stuff So that was a really really good time. Yeah, good time good good conversation So are I'm gonna see you guys at the back doesn't yeah, yeah, yeah, I will be there Although I am not I was just talking to Trina that because it's tomorrow tomorrow morning That's the church. Yeah, and the way back to my place is so this is gonna be the first like 70s day in In my place. Oh no. So everyone weekend.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Oh no. So I'm pretty much like set up for a good two and a half hour drive plus home for your place. So I told it. You mean this is after the reception? Yes. Cause it's gonna be like midday. That's right.
Starting point is 00:37:37 It's gonna be mid day, Saturday on a 70 something degree day. It's gonna be the day to go to the beach that it's a first like really beautiful day Make sure and bring that up. You don't to rail this Yeah, yeah, let him know you know I made this right? Dude the real possibility You're a glad I'm satin drink Four hours to get see his crinkled water on your forehead just so you know You know, it's really cool is that father Steve agreed to come up.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'm really excited to see him. So he's the producer of the World on Fire show. So Bishop Baron, we've had him in the show. He's the buff priest. He's the guy we talked about. He's Jack. He's like the spiritual enforcer. He works out all the time and he's all fit.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And he's super cool. And he's in LA. And it was like a shot in the dark. Hey, would you like to come up and do this? Absolutely. Yeah. So he's coming up to do it for us. No, that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I'm excited. Now, is he, does he already hear? Is he staying in, is he flying in tomorrow? I think he's probably, I think he's flying in this after. And you know where he's staying? Because I don't, because you guys putting him up, I thought you were, you were, I'm paying I told him I'd reimburse them. And he, by the way, turned it down and I had to insist.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Okay. Like, what a nice guy. I know. What a nice guy. I sent him some, I think I sent him some way protein and crating. He's all into that, you know, so. Yeah, that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Stay jacked. Yeah, so hey, did you know that, I'm going to bring this up, Justin, I don't know if you knew this or not. Did you know that they're thinking about bringing back supersonic air travel? The FAA is like talking about it. What? So do you remember the Concord jet?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Was that what it was called? The Concord? So it goes way up in the atmosphere. It was the one with where the nose was kind of pointing down a little bit and it traveled supersonic. Was it on the pod? Sorry, I'm gonna like take a left turn a little bit here, but was it, I feel like, did we share this on the podcast?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Was that the conversation we had the other this on the podcast was at the conversation We had the other night about the blackbird that flew to Europe in we talked about that. Oh, yeah It was like a couple hours or something. Yeah, it wasn't it went from L.A. This is the blackbird This is not commercial, but the blackbird fastest plane ever produced went from L.A. to London in three hours a little over three hours I said that was like, holy shit, that's insane. This is a spaceship. I mean, it attached to it. But that also gives me hope that we're not that far away
Starting point is 00:39:52 from commercial travel being potentially being there, right? Well, I mean, if we got, I mean, that would be so expensive. I mean, that's what SpaceX and Blue Origin and all, they're all working on all that kind of stuff for space travel to be like from here to the moon or Mars eventually. But just to, just to, or on the other side of the planet.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Just to match, exactly. Yeah, or that, just imagine what that would open up. If you could get across the world like that, that fast. Uh huh. And then obviously do it in a, in a reason, I know it's gonna be expensive, but everything is, I mean a cell phone just, but I, if I have to wear a mask, I'm not going to do it. So that's really where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:40:27 You know, that's, so we're waiting right now. You know, my best friend invited us down to do a Disneyland in August for their son is, you know, my godson is three and a half going to be four and they're going to go down to Disneyland and I told Katrina, I was like, I wanted to wait till Max is a little bit older, but you know, what the hell maybe we'll go. And actually what's keeping us from booking it right now is that the law is still right now
Starting point is 00:40:54 for a two year old on the plane. And I just know that I, I'm just gonna be like two and a half an hour. It's just not gonna happen. And then I don't, and then they'll kick you off. Yeah, and I don't even want to be in that situation. Like I'm not, I don't even want to put myself in that situation. Yeah, because you know how you're gonna want to react
Starting point is 00:41:07 Yeah, yeah, exactly so I'm like just if that's gonna be the rules and that's the rules I'm we're not gonna go so yeah We're on the fence right now for that same reason. I don't know what's gonna happen I know we are originally everything was supposed to be lifted in California like this this coming week and that's all So yeah, magically June 15th and then it didn't happen So do you now do you guys know what is going to happen like I don't I have no idea this coming week and that's all so much better. Magically June 15th and then it didn't happen. Now do you guys know what is going to happen? Like I have no idea, I'm not following.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I don't, you guys don't. At this point, those will just say something and not come through. So it's, I don't know. Anyway, sorry, I'm distracted. So check this out. So United Airlines is gonna build or purchase 15 supersonic jets. And the FAA is probably gonna accept these.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, because now that I'm sure it'll be for commercial use. Commercial use. And what is the, now obviously the Blackbird is much faster. How fast are we talking about cutting trips in half in a quarter of a faster? Oh, wait, dude, tell me, I don't know. What businesses are behind this too? Is it like bowing and, you know, some of the things? First I want to know like how much faster this is going to be.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Oh, they're supersonic. They'll fly 65 to 88 people in the planes. Okay. And they're saying it'll be the goal is to do it by 2029. So they're twice as fast. Okay. Twice as fast. So you cut your fly time in
Starting point is 00:42:25 house. So San Francisco to Tokyo. San Francisco to Tokyo is six hours instead of 10 hours. Over 10 hours. That's amazing. Yes. So this is a good, this is, I mean, this is kind of cool. Now, remember, the Concord was doing this. And then it just, they weren't making much money and people, you know, they try to do this already. You don't remember the Concord? So 2029, we're going to Australia. No, no, no, tell me. Doug, look up the conquered. When did the conquered so who owned that?
Starting point is 00:42:50 What, what, what, Eric did an airline company on that? They tried to, do they try to start? So, the conquered is the name of the jet and then airline companies owned it. So, like Boeing makes the jet and make the jet. There's Air France and maybe British Airways. Oh, and they had it? Yeah, maybe Doug can look up and pull up the truck.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Now back to Justin's while you're looking at that. Justin's question, is it Boeing that's actually building it? I didn't say anything. I mean, it just seems like a smart stock buy if that's the case. That's what I was curious. That's actually not a bad point there. I don't know, I'd have to read the whole article to see.
Starting point is 00:43:19 The jet itself is called overture. Overture is the name of it, but I don't know. The new one, not the old one. The old one was called, you said conquered. Yeah, okay, this is it right here. British Airwalkers. British Airways did, wow, in 1986. No, 76 to 2003.
Starting point is 00:43:35 No, it says 1986. No, right here, it says, Auckland, 1976 to 2003. So, I mean, it went for, okay, so, do you know why it stopped? It was too expensive. It just wasn't commercially feasible. It weren't making much money.
Starting point is 00:43:49 So do they have, I mean, do they have to climb a significant amount higher in altitude before the start, right? So what does that look like in terms of, I guess, the turbulence and so forth in terms of like oxygen. From what I read, it's a better or worse higher. It's got to be better. It's better. It's higher, you and so forth, in terms of oxygen. From what I read. It's better or worse higher. It's got to be better.
Starting point is 00:44:06 It's better. It's higher, it's higher, it's higher. It's higher, it's higher. That's what I was gonna say. From what I read about the conqueror is it was a smoother flight because you were so much higher. And there's less resistance flying at that speed.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I mean, it's super rad. I think that was a huge fan of mine. So do you know the economics of this one? Like, is it going to be really expensive also again? I mean, it's got to be more expensive. There's no way you get to cut your flight time in half and then you get the same price. Yeah, obviously sell out.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Well, I mean, think about it this way. Do you have ever seen how much first class costs? International? Yeah, it's expensive. Oh, it's, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Do you know what the price is? It's like like $10,000 for a ticket.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yeah, yeah, no, it's really expensive. So, you know, if you remember when, so who, I know Mark Cuban has won, there was, that was like one of the biggest mess ups. Doug, I know you know, if you remember when, uh, so who I know Mark Cuban has one, there was, that was like one of the biggest, uh, mess-ups. Doug, I know you know this. It's, uh, been, oh, when they offered a lifetime. Yes. Yeah. What was it? Remember that? Do you, what, what, what they, what was a ridiculous price? American Airlines. It was for lifetime. Yeah. It was right after like one of our crashes or something. They were trying to find a way to get money. They offered these lifetime, basically, for like a hundred thousand dollars or something
Starting point is 00:45:04 like that. Yeah. It was, it was a, it was a pretty steep price, but the mouth these guys use it. Yeah, saving like I mean, yeah, no, they they won. And I know I believe Mark Cuban. I think I remember one of his books. I was reading. I know he's got it. I think also what's the guy? Oh, it was $250,000 dollar lifetime ticket. Yeah. And they actually lost money because you had people who traveled so much. Well, you just think like you just gave the $10,000 for a first class. If you're like, okay, wait a second, to go to Tokyo $10,000 first class. I fly six times a year. Yeah, six times a year. In about five years, I'm going to get my money back. Exactly. This is a no brain. It's lifetime. Yeah, and of course, it actually all that stuff went way up. I know. Yeah, those guys have you guys ever seen
Starting point is 00:45:44 the first class? How many of those planes, how many of those tickets were sorry, dude? Oh, so 28, 28 lucky bastards, that one I'm reading? Yes, 28. Oh wow. Which one was Mark Cuban?
Starting point is 00:45:53 Mark Cuban's one of the 28. Wow. That is hilarious. Yeah, that's great. So have you guys ever seen the first class videos? I don't remember the name of the plane. I wanna say it's a Middle Eastern. Oh, it's the Dubai trip. Oh my, have you seen these videos? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't remember the name of the plane. I want to say it's a Middle Eastern. Oh, it's the Dubai trip. Oh my
Starting point is 00:46:06 Have you seen these videos just I haven't bro. It's like it's like a five star more hotel Like room and setup but on the plane like with a bed and TVs and Massage and it's not a private jet. This is like commercial. It's commercial But it's first class and it's extremely expensive And it's ridiculous and I think the whole plane is so opulent like everything about Dubai I remember that one is it all tell you showed me that was with the Atlantis or something Yeah, it was had man You could like sleep underneath the water
Starting point is 00:46:40 That's so cool. Yeah, look at these pictures of, of these like rooms and stuff where they sit in. It's Emirates. Emirates, yeah. Oh, that's the name of the plane. I think it is, yeah. The airline, yeah. Yeah, but there's one. I not want to take it costs.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Oh, you know what I know is crazy. Okay, so you guys know that we brought up on the show the other day, the gold steak, I brought up. Oh, yeah. So our really good friend shot out to Jordan Schall just had his birthday and he was out in Turkey and The he has one of those restaurants there and there I forget what's the currency there But what are the currency there? It's like a thousand of the liars. I think it's liars. No liars are a time
Starting point is 00:47:15 Oh, it's not a little time. I don't know. I'm to this is Turkey. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah Ghibli I'm pretending like I know a thousand whatever's you know, crambory socks thousand Pokemon's okay So that's a new lira, huh? It's called the new My man, look at him coming in hot. Yeah, damn. He knows stuff Stay stay tuned. I know things So anyways, so he so here in LA and in Miami, the minimum stake. And this is a stake with wrapped in gold leaf. Yeah, the gold leaf, right?
Starting point is 00:47:52 I shared about it before, which I don't know if, if a guy that does the whole sprinkle for the salt bay. Yeah, the salt bay. Okay, so if he has another location like that, he's like wrapped into this whole experience. How does he duplicate that? I don't know. Yeah, no, he just, he drops in. He was at the one in Turkey when Jordan was there. It's crazy. So he just kind of he bounces around, but I think I actually think that's actually probably most of what he does now is fly around to his L.A. myself.
Starting point is 00:48:16 It just caters. Yeah, just does this and cut stuff for his liberty. Yeah, and he shows up to some of these tables and does that. So I think that's kind of like part of why you do the experiences, the chance that he may show up at the restaurant and do these things. So anyways, the reason why I was bringing it up was that they can get away with its bullshit in LA and in Miami. So it's the minimum is, if you want a gold stake, you're spending 650 US minimum, 650 US dollars and most of them are a thousand and above. Right. And Turkey, he told me that it cost him 150 bucks. 650 US minimum 650 US dollars and most of them are a thousand and above right and Turkey
Starting point is 00:48:45 He told me that it cost him 150 bucks Yeah, for that gold steak That's whack lots more kids do but you know that price but I think it was one of you when I brought that up said like Well, fuck you could get on a plane Almost private and fly fly to Turkey and Actually get the steak and save the money. And have a vacation? Yeah, so if you were thinking about getting the steak in LA, maybe consider getting on a private plane flying over to Turkey
Starting point is 00:49:10 and having your steak. I've always wanted to go there, by the way. Have you ever seen their architecture? It's gorgeous. Beautiful stuff. I always wanted to go there. He's gonna go back to the Tepe there, too. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Okay, yeah, that's one of those crazy. I've always wanted to go there. No idea what's the name. Ancient, that's one of those crazy. My boys want to go there. No idea what's today. Ancient, it's like this ancient words. All I know is more the curds. They uncompromise. I know, I'm in the toilet. I like ancient relics and stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I like to convert my dollars to giblets please. Cheers. Cheers, mister. Yeah, some stuffing. Dude, I had like no stuff to bring up today too, and I feel bad. Other than a few stupid things. Like, so one thing
Starting point is 00:49:45 You know, it's physically impossible to lick your elbow. Yeah, yeah, I did I tried that man Yeah, who has it right? I can't lick your elbow. I mean we tried lots of things I mean I can lick that was why I can lick I can lick your elbow. I feel like I can though It's so close. I can lick your elbow. No, I can pick your nose, but not friends I'm not gonna lick your elbow. That's your best random fact. That's it. That's it. That in my tongue, every tongue has its own signature thumbprint. Since we're talking about weird stuff, I watched a video on the
Starting point is 00:50:15 difference between male and female orgasms. And this is because of that podcast that we listened to on the way here, the one with the testosterone, the lady on Joe Rogan. Yeah, yeah. Justin said he listened the rest of it was not happy. Dude, all they're doing is crying like half the episode. Dude, Rogan's side track is comfortable. Shit out of that episode. Oh, but anyway, she, it's a book about testosterone and it's effects on men and women and it's
Starting point is 00:50:39 really interesting conversation. She talked about orgasms because she said that people who transitioned. Oh yeah, that's just fascinating. Very fascinating. conversation. She talked about orgasms because she said that people who transitioned very fascinating. She said people who go from female to male in transition, so the given testosterone, notice a difference in their orgasms, even if they don't get a significant difference. Yes. And so that made me wonder like what are the differences? So here's what we know so far. A man's orgasm is more acute and focused. Localized. Localized, sharp and a few. And shorter. A woman's orgasm is more
Starting point is 00:51:13 sustainable. A whole body, not as like a cue, but more spread out and last longer. And what's fascinating, according to that woman, is that when females transition from female to male, that happens to them. All of a sudden, the orgasms become more acute, more localized, sharper and shorter. How weird. So this makes me want to talk to somebody who's transitioned and ask them like, well, what do you like better?
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. You've experienced, I'm definitely curious. Right. I mean, doesn't that, I've depped in too, because you know, as far as the full body experience, it takes a while to get into that headspace and all that kind of stuff for the happen versus like, I wonder if it's like a lot easier to have like orgasms and more frequently, you know, the opposite. You wonder if it's easier for them to have orgasms.
Starting point is 00:51:56 No, for the, for the woman that now has. Oh, that's a good question. Transition. I would probably think so because testosterone is such a driver of sexual desire. And that's what she said too. What was it? I'm aware of my own orgasm. Give her her her plug. What is she?
Starting point is 00:52:15 She's a she wrote. I've written them, but she's a Harvard professor. Her name was Carol. Who? Who then? Who then I Carol. Who then I think? I think that might be Carol.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Who? I just ordered her books. Yeah. And it, that might be Carol Whoven. Let me see. I just ordered her books. Yeah. And it's what was the book, the tea, the tea. I'll pull it up right now. Yeah, I mean, we should probably give her some love. Yeah, so I, because it was really good. I mean, she, what you could tell, she knew it.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I'm fascinating. I mean, I'm, I'm so interested in this, in this book, in which you're okay. The story of testosterone. The hormone that dominates and divides us, Carol Whoven, H-O-O-V-E-N. And you already emailed her, right? I did email her.
Starting point is 00:52:48 But yeah, so, yeah, she said, this was what I thought was interesting on the podcast, that women that transitioned to men, they take the testosterone and they go through this similar feelings that guys go through when we go through puberty. And she was referring particularly to the insatiable, like the overwhelming sex drive and desire. I mean, this is the deal. Okay. If you're watching this on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:53:12 you're probably a guy. So you understand what I'm talking about. But when you're a guy and you go through puberty, it is overwhelming. It is not, it is a very interesting period. You're literally horny all the time. And she said that these women, when they transition for the first six months or so, they go through this feeling and they're like, oh my gosh, this is what it's like. Well, I had to share with the audience, too, what a nerd you are. I went in the car listening to this. This is my, this is my science nerd friend here, like yelling at the radio when Joe's like making a mistake. No, Joe. This is a real sound of, no, no, he's yelling at the, he's yelling at the radio,
Starting point is 00:53:45 hoping that Carol and she did, she circled back. Because Joe was trying to make this case that it's so weird that women dress with like, you know. Yeah, why do women dress too provocative? And like men don't. And she, well, she was going on this tangent trying to say that it's so strange. And Sal was like, no, it's really not.
Starting point is 00:54:06 When you think about what, it's, if they're trying to attract a mate, if they're trying to attract a mate, men do the exact same thing, but that's not how we attract. We do it with status. Yeah, exactly. If I walked in in little booty shorts
Starting point is 00:54:18 and my chest hanging out, I wouldn't attract. You might attract some guys. That's right, I wouldn't attract more women that way, but if I show up in my Lambo, and I've got my Louis Vuitton shoes and my Rolex watch, I'm more likely to attract more that way.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And so guys do it just as crazy as women do at a peacock in different ways. Yeah, or just being like sense of humor. You ever look at what people rank for a hack number one? For women, humor's always in the top three or five. Why, why, do you know why? Because- Have a lusinary-wise.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Sense of humor, if you have a good sense of humor, life is really shitty for a long time. Life sucks for a really long time, so it's fun with you. If you were funny, I'm gonna get dysentery and fucking dies. No, it's because if you have a great sense of humor, you probably have high status. It's a part of charisma. If you're funny and people want to be around you, really, in your tribe or society, yeah, sense of humor is always place the man in higher status. People want to be around you, they want to hear you talk. So it's like charisma.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Charisma is the same thing. Men, women look for charisma more and men than men look for women. Back to kind of like what I found fascinating about that conversation was as they were going through that process, like a young teenage boy going through puberty, like I'm talking about a woman transitioning to a man that basically they couldn't help but start to objectify women. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:41 If they were attracted to women, that is. But that was very fascinating to because it is so. I mean, it's such a powerful thing too. And it's taboo to say. But every young boy knows what that feels like in terms of just, it's hard to control and realize like how much drive you have towards sex and then trying to calm down and control it. I remember as a 15, 16 year old boy like having a girlfriend
Starting point is 00:56:12 and if she, I couldn't sit by her and not wanna do sexual stuff. And I would cry, bro. If she would turn me down. She'd be like, no, I wanna watch it. You feel rejected. No, she did. No, I'm rejected. want to watch the movie. But you know, logically and look outside. Wait, now you're a wiser or a man. Like, you're using like, oh my god, dude,
Starting point is 00:56:29 you couldn't even sit still for a fucking two hour movie, bro. I calm the fuck down. But you don't feel that way. When you're that eight, it's so, it almost feels uncontrollable that you just keep attempting and keep attempting and you keep attempting and just, no, no. Yeah, please, please, please, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no It's so, it almost feels uncontrollable that you just keep attempting and keep attempting and you keep attempting and just, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah, please, please, please. You know, it's finally like, oh, you know, you got all emotional about it. But that's, I mean, I remember feeling so controlled by that urge for so many years as a young man. Yeah, it just takes over all of your thoughts. It's a strong driver. It's until stress and life hits you
Starting point is 00:57:06 and fucking drops your testosterone. Well, though, I also just think you just just be tapering off. You start to understand, look, here's a deal. Like, same thing with teenage girls. I have two older sisters or two younger sisters. I remember when they went through puberty, they got feelings that they weren't familiar with
Starting point is 00:57:21 and it was hard for them to control themselves as well. You're just young. You go from being a child to now having the testosterone of a man, you don't know what to do with it and it's overwhelming. Now, when you're a man, even if you have high testosterone and you're in your 40s, it's not the same. You're wiser, you understand it.
Starting point is 00:57:37 You know how to process it and deal with it. But when you're 13 and you're like, you were a child you know, last month. And now you have, like, when you're 13 you're trying to process that. You're like, what is this crazy feeling? What am I supposed to do with this? I'm gonna go take a two hour shower, mom, we'll be back.
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Starting point is 00:59:03 Full range of motion during body building exercises, always or partial reps to keep tension on muscles for a bigger pump or both. Okay, so if we're gonna do a head to head competition, because there's value in both and it will explain why, but if we're gonna do a head to head competition, full range of motion, generally speaking, is gonna give you better results.
Starting point is 00:59:24 You have a larger range of strength that you gain because it's relatively specific to the range that you train in. In other words, if I squat 12 inches, I'm going to get 12 inches of strength. If I only squat six inches, I'm mostly only going to get six inches of strength. That's obviously valuable. Also, full range of motion tends to build more muscle. Generally, because you're training the muscle, as the muscle fibers slide past each other and contract and larger range of the motion,
Starting point is 00:59:52 you just get more stimulus when you do that. Now, he mentioned tension, keep tension. Here's a myth. You can keep tension in full range of motion just like you can with partial reaction. Not only can you, you're supposed to. Yes. So like, like, one, you know, people might say,
Starting point is 01:00:08 oh, don't go all the way up for a shoulder press because if you do, then you lock out and you take off tension. No, if you go all the way up, you don't rest it on your joints, you have to keep tension the whole time. So as far as keeping tension is concerned, if you do it right, full range of motion keeps tension the whole time, just like,
Starting point is 01:00:24 short ranges of motion to. Now where does short range of motion have value? When I'm trying to specifically add strength to a range of motion that I'm challenged with. So let's say in my bench press, the top portion, the lockout is where I find I struggle. So I notice I'm really good until I get to lock out and then it's really, really hard. Well, if I do some sets of short range of motion, bench press focusing just on lockout, then I'll improve that particular part of the range of motion. Well, you see power lifters,
Starting point is 01:00:52 a lot of times like really focusing on that or doing like rack specific holes and things to address. If they're gonna piece it out in terms of like, different parts of the left, they can then see where their weakness lies, and let's like work just in that direction, but you know, in terms of bodybuilding, I mean, you see this all the time
Starting point is 01:01:11 where they're trying to, they call it like with like the squeeze that the peak of like if a bicep curl or something like that. I used to do this all the time. I used to chase the pump, I used to do short reps. Rarely ever do I do it anymore. The only time I do it, and I think you chase the pump, I used to do short reps, rarely ever do I do it anymore. The only time I do it, and I think you recently, Sal, and I think it was your Instagram,
Starting point is 01:01:30 you talked about this, it might have been on the show. You talked about how you like to use supersets when you are cutting. And to me, this is just like the whole 20 minute hit workouts, similar type of concept here. This way of training has value, has tremendous value, but you don't wanna get stuck in training like this all the time.
Starting point is 01:01:51 So then the next question is, okay, well where do you implement this type of training? Well, you know, there's not this set rule of this is when best to do it, but this is how I prefer to use it. Since when I'm on a cut like you, and I'm reducing calories, one of the first things that happens is I lose strength. It's just part of the process. You're eating way less food consistently. You're not going to be as strong as when you're
Starting point is 01:02:14 fully fed. That's just a fact, right? And you're cutting, you're catabolic, so you're going down. So you're going to lose strength. So one of the best things mentally to do is to don't worry about how heavy the weight is. And so that's when I love to switch to lightweight, do these pumping type of reps, just to send blood in there, get this workout, get this burn. And that's how I'll intermittently put them into my workouts is I don't feel strong today. So I might head into a workout, thinking that I'm going to do full range of motion and strong lifts, and go, oh my god, I am so weak today. head into a workout, thinking that I'm gonna do full range of motion and strong lifts, and go, oh my god, I am so weak today, but instead of getting so hung up on like, oh, I had to lift
Starting point is 01:02:50 heavy and a certain way, today I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna get a nice pump, I'm not, I'm gonna lighten the load, I'm just gonna pump some blood in there, and so long as you are mostly training in full range of motion, that's also not going to hurt you, right? If you're somebody who, the people that are at most risk here, are the people that always train for the pump in short and range of motion up, that is not ideal. You train your body to move that way. That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:13 That is not an ideal way to train long term. Now, if you train full range of motion, 90% of the time, to me, it's great to do this every once in a while. And when I find... It's value in a new stimulus, but in terms of what the question's asking, I would have to go full range of all day long. Oh, yeah. If you're going head to head and you had to pick one, I mean, yeah, there's no, there's no comparison. But I mean, I'll give you an example for me, like for a long
Starting point is 01:03:36 time, I did this bodybuilding style overhead press where I stopped every rep right about here. And you dropped it 90 degrees. Yes, this was a shoulder bodybuilder shoulder press. Yes, and the first time I figured out that a full range of motion work was when I started to do real overhead presses and go all the way down to my purchase and I got more muscle growth. Still didn't do full lockout and then I met Justin
Starting point is 01:03:59 and Justin talked all about overhead carries. Overhead carries are hard if you don't train with that full range of motion. And I noticed I was hell a week. I was like, whoa man, holding something straight up above my head and keeping tension is hard for me. So I started doing overhead carries to make up for it. And again, I got just way more strength, stability,
Starting point is 01:04:16 and I built a little bit of muscle. So. This theory, this whole, why it's in the body building community is the thought, because this is what I used to think too, it's time under tension. And I used to think that you're losing that tension when you're at the in ranges of motion, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:04:31 And that's just not true. And so, yes, to Justin's point, if we were to compare them head to head, full range of motion wins all day long. But I do think that there are places to play with the short pumping reps. It should just be, again, that's why I like to use the example of the 20 minute hit workout. I don't think there's a lot of value in training 20 minute hit a lot or all the time. I think that your body will get adapted to it and most of those great benefits that all the studies talk about are in that short six-week
Starting point is 01:04:59 window. After that, it starts to diminish. But there's still tremendous value in it. So use it when it makes the most sense. When you only got 20 minutes, it starts to diminish. But there's still tremendous value in it. So use it when it makes the most sense. When you only got 20 minutes, great time to do a 20 minute hit workout. Or hey, when you're in a cut and you know you're gonna be weaker, don't worry about doing the heavy full range motion. Maybe that's the day you do some pumping reps.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Next question is from Kayla Roche. Is there a difference between cardio from running and cardio from pushing a heavy sled? Or are they the same because of the elevation of the heart rate? No, they're totally different. Totally different. One is more a steady state, you're going to build endurance, your body is going to
Starting point is 01:05:33 try to become more efficient at doing it. The other one is more like strength training. We have to cover why someone would ask this because to us, that's very obvious and easy, but where there's this, so I get asked like, you know, well, as doing the stair climber, less is gonna build more muscle than doing running on the treadmill. And that is, I think a little more nuance
Starting point is 01:05:56 than something that's obvious. Like a sled, if you're putting a sled, a couple hundred pounds on a sled and you're pushing it, 50 yards or 10 yards or 10 steps forward. That's closer to one, unless you're doing like an entire football field, you know, with the sled.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Then it can turn into a bit of a cardiovascular. That's right. So if you were doing like a 10 pound sled, which is like nothing, right? And you're pushing it from my own. It's the intention, I think, is the point of it. So you have to discern what it is you're doing with the object or with your body. Obviously, elevating
Starting point is 01:06:26 the heart rate, you're going to get that from even weight training, but in short bouts. And so if it doesn't cross over into that endurance energy exchange, then I would classify it more as a strength type of question. Yeah, I mean, it's the heavier the load and the shorter the distance that you push it, the more like resistance training it becomes. The lighter the load and the further you can push it, the more like cardio it is to keep it simple for somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And pushing a heavy sled, I mean, I do this typically on Saturdays and I'll do, I'm probably pushing it a grand total of 40 yards. It's very much like strength training. I mean, your heart rate gets up, so does my heart rate when I do 20 reps squats too. I love it. I actually wish that we could sort of classify this more as a work capacity,
Starting point is 01:07:12 because it is like strength training, but also, I mean, you have to move with, it's kind of a different mentality doing that exercise, but it's still providing a lot of strength benefit. I feel if you're doing it in short distances and you're moving weight. Next question is from Connor Sherry. What are the best snacks and quick foods to eat for hardgainers trying to pack in extra calories, specifically protein?
Starting point is 01:07:38 I want to address the snack word because it's been a while in the podgehoss. I used to tell clients there's no such thing as snacks. There's only complete meals and incomplete meals. And it's like one of the most common questions that we get about, and the reason why I used to teach this to clients is because I just think it's a bad habit to get into trying to figure out what's a good snack or a bad snack.
Starting point is 01:08:01 It's better to look at every time you eat, it is a meal and is it complete or is it incomplete? Because it's very hard to hit all your macronutrient targets regardless if you're trying to build or you're trying to lose. And you're doing it through these snacks all day long. It's just way, it's much easier to look at the time you're about to eat. And you're also far better off resisting eating some food for that, you know, to hold you over until that next meal, resisting eating that and having a bigger,
Starting point is 01:08:31 fuller of complete meal than to have all these little snacks. Not to mention that category of food usually. What are you going to get on with that category? So, like, let's just eliminate that category and focus on the meals. And then, you know, the spillover of like, I didn't get enough protein. How am I going to do this? Maybe that's right. That's right. So let's just eliminate that category and focus on the meals and then the spillover of like I didn't get enough protein, how am I gonna do this? Maybe that's where an opportunity lies in finding a snack that has more protein.
Starting point is 01:08:53 So if I had a client, what about fruit, like an apple or something, right? Okay, well, that's fine, it's not bad. But if you're gonna eat, so let's say an apple on average is about 150 calories or so unless it's like a giant one, let's say about 150 to 200 calories, I would much rather see 99.9% of my clients
Starting point is 01:09:11 not eat the apple and eat three more ounces of the chicken breast at dinner, or two more ounces of the steak that they're about to eat, because protein is much harder for them to get, and a lot of times they fill up on carbohydrates, and that's part of the reason that doesn't allow them to hit their protein targets. I would much rather see my client resist the snack and then have a bigger, more complete
Starting point is 01:09:31 meal. When your challenge is getting in enough calories and I know some people watching are like, I hate those people, but this can be a challenge for some people is getting in enough calories to get to their muscle building or weight gain goals. I can actually be very difficult. The things you want to look at are calorie density and digestibility, because those are the things that will get in your way.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Like, is this food something that I can easily eat and then is it okay and easy for me to digest? Because if you eat the wrong foods, either you waste your time eating a big meal because calories are low or you eat food that makes you feel bloated and then you're screwed for the next meal. Now I have some staple bulking foods
Starting point is 01:10:12 that I would eat that were just super effective for me packing on size. The most impactful food was literally, I would get 20% lean, so 20% fat, ground beef, and I would have that with white rice, so I'd mix that with right rice, and I would make the white rice with bone broth. And that would be a bowl that was 1200 calories, 60 grams of protein.
Starting point is 01:10:37 There was some good carbohydrates in there. It was very easy for me to digest. It was a very easy bulking meal for me. Inexpensive ground beef is cheap, so's rice, so is bone broth, and then I throw in some vegetables on the side, but that was like, for me, that was a staple, weight gain food, and one of the easier ones that I put together.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And I'm gonna push back on the continuing, and you're naming a complete meal. That's right. I'm gonna keep pushing back on the snack thing of like, if you're a hard-gainer and you struggle getting calories, be careful and weary of filling it up with, you know, nuts and carbs and snacks in between your meals. Go get what you need through whole foods and whole meals.
Starting point is 01:11:17 First, and then if you were a client of mine that's a hard-gainer, I might allow you to enjoy what the dessert at the end of the night looks like. If you still need calories, we've hit most of our macronutrient targets. You just need more calories, some fillers. And then I would prefer to use something like magic spoon. We'll go have a giant bowl of magic spoon at the end of the night where you give 40 grams of protein and you're not overloaded full of sugar and it tastes amazing. So pile that onto the end of the night if you need more calories.
Starting point is 01:11:44 But what you don't want wanna get caught up is, oh, I have a hard time, I'm a hard gainer, and then you start to have all these, I tried this by the way too. And this is where I'm speaking from that. I'm speaking from being a hard gainer, my whole life trying to figure out the hacks to get the calories.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And a mistake I made was thinking that this was a good hack. Like, oh, I'll start to carry, I'm sure you did this too. I'd carry peanuts in my pocket, hits and I'd have, between meals, I'm seating this. Yeah, I'll start to carry, I'm sure you did this too. I'd carry peanuts in my pockets and I'd have- In between meals. I'm seating this. I'd have a box of wheat, things, I carry all time. I did all that bullshit.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And you actually, what you end up finding out is that you, if you even hit your calorie target, you fill it up full of crap and you don't hit the things that are most valuable, like lean protein. And so, and that was just to get to your calories, right? So instead, I would always coach my clients, and this is myself also, get all what I need through these whole meals. And a great choice, some ground beef and rice, it's just easily digested. You can keep piloting
Starting point is 01:12:37 it on. People associate protein shakes in this category of snack, because I know there's a lot of eating a meal, and then I did a workout, I get a shake, and then I eat another meal, and then I get a shake, and then I go to bed, and I get a shake. So my most valuable piece of advice when it comes to a hard gainer and how to use shakes in my experience, so this is my own personal experience that I found was, I did like to do a shake right after my workout, because what I found was I did like to do a shake right after my workout because what I found was I could pound it really quick. And then in the car, by the time I got home,
Starting point is 01:13:12 I was still hungry because I just had this intense workout that shake had already digested. It wasn't very much. I got my protein intake and then I'd sit down and eat a whole meal like that. I found you can sneak in more calories that way it was harder. That's right.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Here's the second value with protein shakes. Is at the end of the day, when I look at all my calories and I go, oh man, I missed it by 50 grams of protein or by 500 calories. Okay, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna make myself a shake, throw some bananas and peanut butter in there, blend it up and now I made up for the difference.
Starting point is 01:13:42 But it definitely is. Those are the two ways I use to shake. Exactly. But the goal, by the way, is always to get it through whole foods. So I set out every day with the intent to eat meals just like salad, just suggested, which I think is great, or quinoa pasta,
Starting point is 01:13:57 sweet potato yams, all those are great choices. And even if you're fine, if you don't, like gluten doesn't bother you, even regular pasta and white potatoes, everybody think, do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but if you like that stuff, like eat that with your meats, hit your protein targets, if you're still struggling, then pile the shake on at the end of the night. Next question is from Ethan Neetzel. What are great exercises to improve your vertical jump?
Starting point is 01:14:20 You know it's funny about this. Had you asked me this 10 years ago, my answer would be focused around building power and strength. Yeah. And that would be improve your vertical jump. Then I met all technique. Then I met PJ Performance by great Instagram page, really, really smart guy. This is his expertise. And he would improve people's verticals by tremendous amounts. And most of it was technique of jumping,
Starting point is 01:14:47 this skill of jumping. And of course, this makes perfect sense. Jumping, running, throwing a ball, throwing a punch, there's a lot of skill and technique involved. And if you maximize the efficiency of your movement and maximize your technique, the dividends that'll pay you back are tremendous.
Starting point is 01:15:06 So I would say that's the most important thing. Then you can look at building strategy. I totally agree. And I've had clients like this too. I feel a little bit guilty because I was approaching it with that same mentality. Oh, we need to do some power cleanser. We need to do some explosive type exercises with weight
Starting point is 01:15:23 in order to get them to then have that effect where they're going to have this like recoil effect. They're going to jump higher, you know, by default. But if I were to know all these like very specific types of biomechanic techniques to approach the jump to, you know, get a better stride, you know, lots of things that he teaches on there in terms of like, you know of even how to land and how to decelerate properly and how to control your body better, how to have the proper mobility so it allows the full range of motion capacity that your joints can go through.
Starting point is 01:16:00 That has a lot more value to me now than the strength training part of it. Well, I'm going to redeem you guys a little bit though here because I was a kid who played basketball and I never squatted as a young kid. Later on in my early 20s, I began to squat, I began more motivated to be a buff guy and I? And I was playing less and less basketball. And I began squatting for the first time in my life. And back then, like 225 actually was a lot of weight to squat for me, and I'd worked up to that. And I remember I hadn't played basketball in a pretty extended period of time.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And then I got out there with the buddies to do it, and I could throw down. And I could throw down like way I could I could barely like once a season I could at the peak of the season when I have worked on my technique and I was lean could get up there and kind of dunk it I dropped step two hand dunked it and was like it blew me away How much you know training the squat actually did improve my vertical? Oh, yeah, you keep the technique the same and you get stronger?
Starting point is 01:17:05 Of course. So I just want to make that clear to someone who's listening right now. That's a good point. If you're not doing any sort of strength training and you build the strength, the explosive power from like a squat, like for somebody, you will see that translate into your vertical. Now that being said, if you are not following Paul Fabrice, which is PJF performance, if you're not following Max Marzo, which I believe is that's, is it under his name? I think it is. Max Marzo and also our buddy,
Starting point is 01:17:36 Corey. Corey's lesson, your Corey's lesson, your, the three of them, Corey is the sports performance coach for the Phoenix Sons, which are kicking ass right now, right? So if you're not paying attention to him, you're losing on this battle too. And then also I think Paul is one of the greatest strong by sciences. Thank you, actually. And Max and Paul are business partners.
Starting point is 01:17:55 So those three guys I think are leading the way in basketball specific sports performance, although that translates into other sports. So if you were an athlete or you're interested in that, those guys are a wealth of knowledge. I've learned a ton of from just following them. I remember I found Paul when he had less than 10,000 followers. I remember showing Justin,
Starting point is 01:18:18 look at this guy, this guy's got incredible content. And he puts out a lot of fun. Well, the point, I guess, and I'm glad you brought that up too, because I mean, we could like maps performance or like are you know even maps in a ball like where we're just focusing on the entire body getting strong, having the foundational strength first. So I guess from my perspective it was I was training people that would come to me that had already been you know building off of their strength. But now they're really hyper focused on improving this technique, which is really what it is.
Starting point is 01:18:48 It's the technique of it once you have that base strength. So, and we're always talking to the general audience of people out there. So, our wheelhouse is definitely in that direction, and that's why we bring them up, because they've taken the technique of it and fine-tuned it in a way that's superior to what else I've seen out there. But that matters. Yes. You know, because who we're talking to makes the world of a difference as far as like what
Starting point is 01:19:13 advice is better or not. If you've been strain training for a very long time and you just want to increase your vertical, then I would push you in the direction of technique, right? For sure. But just getting stronger is going to carry over and to vertical and speed. That's the first thing you needed to do. You throw a punch. You gave all these analogies of sports. Listen, I've never been a boxer,
Starting point is 01:19:34 but I guarantee you, me hitting you today versus me punching you 15 years ago, and I might have been, I was quicker, faster, which everyone knows speed is very important with punch, but I am much bigger and stronger and have more power behind me. You can anchor yourself. That's right. And so similar, similar.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It's all important. But if you compare head to head techniques in any physical pursuit that is athletic, technique is always, it tends to be king. But if you're just generally stronger, that works too. So how would you improve your vertical jump with strength? Squats, split stance, squats, single leg type squats, and then of course you can train your calves,
Starting point is 01:20:13 you can do explosive plyometric type exercises. But I'm gonna tell you this right now, if you got bad technique, it's gonna make a difference, but not a huge difference. And to highlight that point you're making is I remember when Paul was on on the show i think he brought us up in the show if not we talked about this off air that uh... he actually took and i believe he was a uh...
Starting point is 01:20:32 collegiate level athlete and and gained six inches i mean that's huge on his vertical changing and saying in the show to met him when i was in the same day so just to hide that was string no you can't know you're not your squats will not give you six inches vertical. In a day. Maybe not even over a year probably, you know. It would not that, I mean, that's a lot. So technique does matter that much.
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