Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1586: How to Train a Body Part That Is Smaller on One Side, Ways Meditation Increases Muscle Gains, Tips for Correcting Shoulder Winging & More

Episode Date: June 30, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about doing extra reps on a weaker side, whether meditation can help increase muscle gains, getting rid of shoulder wingi...ng, and the benefit of taking a stim-free pre-workout. The guys recap the “soft-opening” of the Vuori store in San Jose. (7:52) Mind Pump comments on the fairness of the transgender athlete competing in the Tokyo Olympics. (16:54) Andre the Giant facts that will blow your mind! (29:31) The fascinating traits of strong men. (35:05) The psychological term of falling off the wagon. (38:29) How do you lose a nuke?! (43:42) James Cameron missed out on a much better movie. (45:30) Microsoft making some BIG moves. (48:20) Is the changing of the guard here for the entertainment industry? (51:28) #Quah question #1 – If you have a hard time activating and focusing on your non-dominate side, should you be doing extra reps on that side?(59:30) #Quah question #2 – Can meditation help increase muscle gains? (1:05:42) #Quah question #3 – How do I get rid of shoulder winging? What kind of problems will I face if I don’t address it? (1:10:57) #Quah question #4 – Is there any benefit of taking a non-stim pre-workout? (1:15:17) Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS Prime, Prime Pro, and the Prime Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “JUNEPRIME” at checkout** Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** Major Sports Stars Speak Out Against Transgender Olympic Athlete Laurel Hubbard Mind Pump #895: Do Transgender Athletes have an Unfair Advantage? Hitman: My Real Life in the Cartoon World of Wrestling Abstinence Violation - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics Home - Banners | Paris Baguette Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Nuke Lost off Georgia Coast Stirs New Fears After 44 Years The Wild Conspiracy Theory That the Titanic Never Sank The Craziest Titanic Conspiracy Theories, Explained - HISTORY The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve Microsoft Store gives app developers option to keep 100% of revenue, but not games Steven Spielberg signs deal with Netflix in latest sign of evolving Hollywood Loki - Disney.com MAPS Prime Pro Webinar How To Properly Do The Seated Cable Row (IT MATTERS!) – Mind Pump TV Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Justin Brink DC (@dr.justinbrink)  Instagram Tony Robbins (@tonyrobbins)  Instagram Stick Mobility's (@stickmobility)  Instagram Dr. Andreo Spina (@drandreospina)  Instagram Cory Schlesinger (@schlesstrength)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, right in today's episode. We answered fitness and health questions, but the way we open the episode is with an intro portion. This is where we talk about current events. We bring up scientific studies and we talk about our lives.
Starting point is 00:00:30 It's basically a fun conversation. Yeah. Today's intro portion was 54 minutes after that we got to the fitness stuff. So here's what we talked about in today's podcast episode. We opened up a talk about the Viori event that we went to last night and how Adam was getting complimented on his amazing skin. By the way, Adam has been using Caldera products on his skin and I promise you, his skin looks incredible.
Starting point is 00:00:53 In fact, if you find us on YouTube, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. Big transformation. And we have a discount for you if you go through us. So head over to calderalab.com, so C-A-L-D-E-R-A-L-A-B.com forward slash mine pump. Use the code mine pump, get 20% off, your first order of the good serum.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's called the good. Then we talked about the first transgender athlete in the Olympics, Laurel Hubbard. Then we talked about Andre the Giant, more facts about this fascinating man. Then we talked about strong man, strong more facts about these fascinating man. Then we talked about strong man, strong man competitions from way back in the day. Did you know that they actually lifted stuff
Starting point is 00:01:31 with their teeth? Yeah. Kind of cool. Oh, then we talked about why people go off the wagon. There's a psychological term for it in fact. Then we mentioned another one of our sponsors, Zbiotics. Zbiotics makes genetically modified probiotic drinks
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Starting point is 00:02:21 Then I talked about how the US government lost the nuke off the coast of Georgia. Still lost. Scaring the hell out of me. Then I talked about how the US government lost the nuke off the coast of Georgia. It's still lost. Scaring the hell out of me. Then we talked about that Titanic and the conspiracy surrounding it. We brought up Microsoft's app policy. Now they're going to be competing with the giants out there. And then we talked about Steven Spielsberg working with Netflix. Speeds. I said his name wrong. You know what I'm talking about. Then we got to the questions. Here's the first one. This person says, look, I have a hard time activating my non-dominant side.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Give me some tips. The next question, this person wants to know if meditation can help build muscle. The third question, this person wants to know how to work on shoulder blade, winging. And the fourth question, this person wants to know if there's any value to taking a pre-workout that doesn't contain any stimulants. Also, one day left for our huge maps prime, maps prime pro and prime bundle sales. So they're all 50% off. You have 24 hours to take
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Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah. We have four winners, two for Apple podcasts, two for Facebook. The Apple podcast winners are Geek Gaines and Michelle C-002. And for Facebook, we've got Caitlin Seba and Bill Romano. All four of you are winners and the names I just read to iTunes at mine.pumpmedia.com include your shirt size and your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to you. I can see it in your eyes. I can see it in your thigh.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Wow, dude. So I've wanted oh my god. It's been a while since we've heard the voice of an angel. Mm-hmm. I'm just yeah, I'm just trying to warm up the pipe. Well, you gotta be yeah, you gotta be careful though because you get you get Adam to cry again And then we can't do the podcast. You just my underwear, I don't want to sell it here. Bro, what the fuck? Hey man. Was that on my chair?
Starting point is 00:04:49 No, it was on the dude in there. We dug walks in this morning. It was just a pair of not clean. No, a very very very sweaty too. Very very sweaty. So you last night right? How do you get the skid marks out by the way? Yeah, dark underwear.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You know, that's the super. There weren't minds. There weren't a lot of holes. Yeah. Oh my, you get it. Your wife let you get away with that. If not, she does it. She throws them away and I get pissed.
Starting point is 00:05:11 If I'm wearing a cucumber, Katrina Corners tick her finger and rip them. Yeah. Oh wow. And then you're just naked. Yeah. And then you have sex. Never leads to that actually.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Oh, then it's not a good walk around the neighbor's shoe. That's a fun. That's a fun. It's like as she's making fun of me not like she's this is sexy Because that's what I would do. She did if Jessica just ripped my underwear off Well, I mean I'm here. I mean I turn around and try to do the where we can do now The Chinese drums. I do the helicopter. Yeah, you know, I'm talking about the Chinese drums You guys remember Karate Kid where they're like
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah, that's what that's what Adam does That's what Adam does. T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T- And then I can have my shirt with a little. Oh, well, okay, shirts are different. Like shirts are different. It's comfortable. Yeah, you wear them in. You know, it's where it's like nice and soft and it's hugging you for you. Yeah, exactly. And it maybe it's gonna fall apart, but it won't hurt. You know, it's a good job with those shirts like that is target, but then they only get so many washes
Starting point is 00:06:16 and they're done. They already look like they just integrate. Yeah, they're so amazing for like three months. And I guess that's the deal. I mean, I think where they run like six or nine bucks for some of those like the shirts. We all have had them. I know I bought you guys something before that or something.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. You bought me a NASA one. Yeah, I got you a NASA one. What do I get you? I got a NASA one as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, you got maybe I got you like a nerd science one. I've worn that thing a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:38 That's a lot of fun, right? I like it. It's super cool. That's about as far as a nerd science show. I was a target shirt. I bought two of the Two or three of the Coke ones, but they fade. You know, I like them so much I wear them a lot and they they you can only get so many washes out of a target shirt. Yeah, and then they're done They're they're they're what's the word I want to use environmentally friendly because you just wash them and then they just turn into the earth
Starting point is 00:07:01 But the underwear thing last night. That was my bad. So that was how did that happen? What are you why are you getting naked in the last night? That's I mean what the fuck I was I was changing it well last night we had the we had the Viori event Yeah, well, we'll watch the cameras later Doug watch the video. Do we have we don't have cameras in here Of course, I mean we have these cameras, but we don't have oh That one stays honor that one stays on bro, so we're gonna review the security food Because I don't believe the original story gonna find a whole lot more Now so what happened I have my me time on Justin's chair. Come on Better lighting over on your side
Starting point is 00:07:40 Sort of foster everything everything looks bigger over in that It's sort of foster everything. Everything looks bigger over in that A. So that's just not an illusion. It's facing the door with the window. Now you can see if somebody likes that. Nelson, what was it in your gym bag? Well, you know, so I mean last night, well, first of all, I had a whole stack of like, I brought more clothes than I normally would to the studio because we were going to Viori.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I knew Viori was sending over new gear for us, but I don't like when anybody dresses me, so I was really nervous and I have issues with that too. Yeah, I love it. You're all about it. I love this. Well, that's because your mom laid your clothes out till you were 25.
Starting point is 00:08:16 No, oh my goodness. The mom, bro. It's 19. Get the store right. It's a big difference. Have a good day. It's full on. I gotta comb your hair.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Just have a comb. Sometimes she forget, be walking around to wear a mom. 25 mom. I gotta go, I gotta date. Hell, what am I supposed to wear? Anyway, so was it? So yeah, so no, I was just, and we were rushing out the door to leave
Starting point is 00:08:37 because I did the sauna, a shower here and everything, and then I come in, you're right, I come in here and I change. And so I'm like scooped up all my clothes, I was carrying my water bottle, I had another drink, and I had all the stuff in my hands, and I didn't even realize that I dropped it on the way out. So, I get a picture this morning from Doug,
Starting point is 00:08:52 what the fuck? I ended up wearing Adam's pants last night. You didn't know that did you? Why? Did you see how they look good on him? I was, yeah, because they dressed me with these other really cool green ones, but I don't think it was ripstop, but I was
Starting point is 00:09:05 wearing Adam's ripstop as like the white ones because actually fit me better at. Like, was the size that they give you to small? Well, you know, it was actually too parachuty, you know, like so it like fit my hips, but not, I don't know, dude, it didn't point at me very much. They were big on your cakes. They were big. No, no, no, no, no, no cakes. Like, no, it was like, my legs were just kind of...
Starting point is 00:09:23 I was gonna say, because that's, I don't know. I don't know if he hammered out You know, I sell them Anyways, the other one it was a better fit. Yeah, I felt better. We everybody looked really good I left so they because okay, so we did a viewers for people know what we're talking about We did a new a grand opening event for Viori in Santana, Ro here up in San Jose soft launch a soft launch by the way Brilliant they opened up across the street from yes So is it you are talking to so ginks there. No, that's like a strategy. I not enough for supposed to talk so much about
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, but anyway I mean come on it seems like it would be a good strategy, but anyway They had a representative that out stop by the studio and bring us brand new viewer close for the event. And so I had, I had these pants that I'm wearing right now. And then I had this shirt that, I don't know, color would you see that shirt is kind of like a brownish, bold, mustardy, something like that, right? Yeah, mustard would be a good color. Yeah, so I had a brown one on it. It actually look really good. You didn't want it like
Starting point is 00:10:19 you're, I don't know about this color. It looked really good on you. Yeah, thank you. So I put it on and through the the sleep exhaustion and everything, my wife looks up and she goes, oh my God, he looks so handsome. I was like, okay. This shirt's in the regular rotator. You're actually bringing it into the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:10:36 So we go to the event, right? We're talking to all of our friends and other fitness people in the area. Great time. Here's the highlight though. Here's the highlight. Several times, because I'm watching everything. I'm talking to people. We area, great time. Here's the highlight though. Here's the highlight. Several times, because I'm watching everything, I'm talking to people, we're mingling,
Starting point is 00:10:48 we're doing our thing. We're full network mode. At least two times, I'm next to Adam, I'm talking to other people, but I can hear other conversations, right? And at least a couple times, people go up to Adam. This is true to, they go up to Adam, go, man your skin looks really good.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You heard that, huh? Is it the lighting in here? I do, I do get that a few times, dude. I did, I did so funny. Hey, shout out to Caldera, dude, I'll tell you right now. I have been religious. Now is it this one right here? I have never in my life.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So I used that too, I actually used a serum today. A serum is what introduced me to it, right? So I was using it for psoriasis in my face. This is the one we always, that all of us have used. But I actually, I'm on the, I'm actually the moisturizer and the cleanser I'm more on a kick than anything else now. So I'll use the serum throughout the day
Starting point is 00:11:33 if I feel like I'm dry. I keep one here at the studio, but at home, religiously, every night, every morning when I shower, I do the face cleanse and then the moisturizer. Never in my life have I ever done anything like this before. Figured I'm, I've never put those words together and said, either of us.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You know, I had to, so I did a video for it. Justin's like, I use moisturizer for one thing. No, this is a moisturizer. It's really hard to say. It's so foreign to me that I did a little video for them on my Instagram and I'm like, I had to like read the label multiple times and remember like, oh, what a cleanser.
Starting point is 00:12:04 What's a cleanser, what's a moisture? I'm fucking no, that stuff is a girl shit. So I didn't know, so I had to remember like which one's which before, and I remember I shot it like two different times and I kept messing it up, my god, damn, dude. It's like those memes, you guys ever see those memes where they're like, my girlfriend's cleaning products,
Starting point is 00:12:21 and it's like one for hair, one for ass, one for feet, and the guys like, you know, all in one, like, it'll wash your hair, your balls, clean your car, degreaser engine, you know, you know, one dude. Sure is dangerous. Yeah, everything is all good. But, you know, okay, here's the beauty of the fact
Starting point is 00:12:36 that we videotape our podcast now. Yeah, you can go back and look. We're not lying. If you look at his face right now, it's always been handsome, but now it's, it's a tiny bit more. It's really good. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:12:49 No, I'm inating handsome. I notice a difference. I notice a difference. And pretty quickly, too, it didn't take very long of consistency as far as like when I really noticed. And what I notice is just, my skin looks really clear. It's balanced, because I've used,
Starting point is 00:13:04 so here's the deal with my skin. I have naturally oily skin, right? Obviously my parents are Mediterranean, so it's just what happens. And if I mess with moisturizers or anything on my face, it just adds too much and I'll break out, because I'm already oily. The caldera balances it out.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So it's like, I put it on my skin as oily, just in as the opposite is dry. I'm like a sponge and a desert. And his balance is out too. And it's like I put it on my skin as oily just and as the opposite is dry. I'm like a sponge and Desert and his balance is out too. And it's because of the formula that they use. So it's fire It's really good stuff. You know what else was nice about last night at at Viori was it was one of the first times I've been to in a long time in event with a lot of people Nobody's wearing masks. we're all hanging out, we're all having good conversation,
Starting point is 00:13:48 because California lifted the mask, finger whatever. And it was like a nice, get together, it felt normal. It felt normal. It felt normal. You're another human being I can communicate with. I did see the staff, they'll have to go put their mask on
Starting point is 00:14:00 because I think OSHA requires. I think they're still required for workers. So I did feel a little bad for them, but everybody else that was there, not worry, what a great time though, man. I had a really good time last night, and wasn't sure it was kind of a last minute thing that we threw together,
Starting point is 00:14:15 but the turnout was incredible. It had some really great conversations with some really brilliant, interesting people there. A lot of fun. I saw Dr. Brink there, haven't seen him in a while. Yeah, shout out to Brink. I wish I got a chance to talk to him a little bit longer.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I was real brief with him. That was hard. You know, he moved his office to, is it Knox Jim? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I think they expanded, he bought the building next store, is that right? I think so. Yeah, so he's with like Josh Thompson owns the Knox Jim.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So we're on the court from your house. Yeah, so he runs some classes there Knox gym. It's a really run-court from your house. Yeah, so he runs some classes there, but like it's a pretty big facility. So he's able to put all of his stuff in there. Most of his recovery, except for his cryo machine. And so he's like probably gonna sell that off. Oh, he's okay.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I know, I was like, oh, I didn't know that. I know either. So I was gonna talk to you guys about that. I'm like, do we want a cryo machine? You know what I mean? I don't know. Would we want a cryo machine? I mean, we can't, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:10 it was enjoyable. We could trade it for an infrared sauna. Oh, that's right, we got an extra one, don't we? You think you'd want to do that? I don't know, we should. Now, either way, he's still running a lot of the cool stuff that he was doing there before with the Norma Tech boots and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:23 We had a cryo in here, I would use it. Yeah, you use everything. Me too. But here's the thing. Do you know it? Cold to hot. Have either one of you actually cryoed and lifted? I do.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Fucking amazing. It's not bad. It does get, it amps the CNS, so it's like a, it's like a happy shop. Yes. No, it feels amazing. Yeah, no, okay, so I don't know what goes into it. Does a cryo machine require you by tanks of nitric? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Gas and all that stuff. Oh, that's the thing. It's a tattoo. Yeah, anyway, I don't want to, but it was- What do you guys say, Doug? What do you guys say? Liquid nitrogen? Is that what that is?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't fuck that up. Yeah, get the right thing. You ever watched Terminator 2? Come on, man. I'm not trying to get it. No, it was cool though. Like ever watch Terminator 2 come on man. I'm not trying to get It was cool though like he did he mentioned to you how many listeners have come to see him in person Well, Dr. Brink for people though he isn't so that for people who don't know he remember we've been doing this for a long time
Starting point is 00:16:15 He had such a profound impact on us because he's so exceptionally good at what he does correctional movement and Mobility work and curing paint. He had such a huge profound impact on us that we led to some of the development of Maps Prime Pro. So he's, the guy's exceptional. So if you're looking for somebody to work on you,
Starting point is 00:16:36 either virtually or in person, is the best dude. For sure the best in the Bay Area. By far, never, never, never met anybody that is as talented and smart as he is and is, it's helped me out as much as he is. Yeah, yeah. And he works, I mean, he's always worked with like a lot of high level athletes in the regular piece. So he's an MMA and that's how he's connected to them. So speaking of athletes, we got to talk about this. What? We got
Starting point is 00:16:57 to talk about Laurel Hubbard. You know, that is, I do know. What's that name? That is the transgender way lifting athletes. That's why I's that name? That is the transgender weightlifting athlete. That's why I know the name. That's gonna be competing in the Olympic Tokyo. Olympic weightlifting, right? Olympic weightlifting. So I've gotten so many DMs. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:17:15 From people who are like, please talk about this. Please talk about this. Okay, so here's, I'm gonna. What do you want me to say? Yeah, what are you getting? Someone's happening. They asked me, yeah, they asked me on my question. They have my Q&A, someone asked me what I think about it and I said,
Starting point is 00:17:25 well, it sucks for all the other chicks competing against me. That's how I feel. Well, okay, so I'm gonna give, there's a couple thoughts that I have on this that I would like to express. One of them is very tragic. In my opinion, because I'm all for individual liberty and rights, I think this, well, I don't think this is true.
Starting point is 00:17:41 The smallest of all minorities is the individual. So if you, so I do believe all individuals' rights and liberty should be completely respected, which includes groups like LGBT and other groups. Here's the problem though. I think something like this is gonna set back the LGBT community because this is a fact, I'll debate anybody on this and the science will support it.
Starting point is 00:18:03 For sure, there's a level of gaslight lighting that's going on with this because in the pursuit of, you know, accepting quality and rights and fairness, in that pursuit, they're gas lighting people by blatantly lying, and this is what the lie is. The lie is that if you go through puberty as a male that once you block hormones and transition that you completely erase that advantage, that men definitely obviously have.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It's not true. Wasn't somebody talking to us and please finish this for me because I'll probably, you know, totally not repeat it correctly. So, but we are having a conversation I believe I want to say Justin it was with Jesse up in Tahoe Okay, and he was sharing that within the the community that there's there's a lot of like behind the scenes drama That's going on between I think Lesbian and transgender. I think it has to do with the like they in
Starting point is 00:19:02 Feminist their split. Yeah, it's also. Yeah, there's some split there with like women's rights. Yeah. Well, what it comes in classification is the sports that there's a big split. Because if you're... That's why I'm bringing it up. Because I think it has to do with the sports.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Because let's say, for example, there was an athlete, a female weightlifting athlete that missed the cut, she's been training her whole life, missed the cut to compete in the Olympics because Laurel Hubbard made it in. So there's only so many slots. So you have an athlete working their ass off trend, and it's like, it's a fact,
Starting point is 00:19:34 biological men have a significant physical advantage over women, and it's also a fact that you don't erase it completely, you just don't. When you go through puberty, there's a lot of permanent stuff that happens. You lose some of it, but not all of it. I mean, you could put me in all the hormone blockers you want. I'll still be stronger than my sister.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And you could put her on testosterone. And I'll probably still be stronger than my sister. This is just a total fact. By the way, check this out. There's some more crazy stuff. You know, the committee's testosterone guideline is higher for transgender athletes than cis women.
Starting point is 00:20:05 So they're allowed to use more. They're allowed to have higher testosterone levels. Because they're taking synthetic. No, because they're because they're seeing, now that's where it's interesting, right? So if you're a woman competing and you know that there's transgender in the mix, like, why wouldn't you be able to take exogenous testosterone? I don't know, man. I think it's to level it out.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And again, this is just like, it's so politicized to where like we're not really talking about what actually is fair. Yeah, there's, there's, treating people with dignity and respect, what you should. And then there's just facts. Yeah. And if you want to say,
Starting point is 00:20:41 I think we're just in a really, I think we're just in a weird time. Like I don't get, I know right now it's like the thing to talk about and get all riled up about because it's, but this is just a purpose. I hate being gaslighted, bro. I can't stand it. I know. I really pisses me off.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But here's the thing. We're in the middle of this transition, right? This is new. This is new for us and like how, and I think everyone is trying to figure out how to deal with it. And I want to believe that more and more situations like this is going to surface, and eventually what we'll have. And as more and more transgender athletes come out
Starting point is 00:21:12 that actually do wanna compete at the higher level, they'll create a category for themselves. They'll be transgender athletes, and then they'll be... So here's the whole lot of us. The logical and handling, but where it meets the road is that they wanna be accepted as a woman, you know, fully. And so the- And that may not be indistinguished from being a woman.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And that's the challenge. That's the challenge. Yeah, so that's why you can't really have a logical conversation of that. Yeah, that's the challenge. And here's the deal, Adam. It ain't gonna go backwards. Once they allow them to complete fully,
Starting point is 00:21:42 they're not gonna take that away. Because then it's gonna be viewed as taking away. I don't necessarily believe that. I believe that you think there's going to be a pendulum swing. I do. I do. And I think there's going to be enough situations where a woman like you said that is getting ready to compete in the Olympics gets fucked and it's they're going to they're going.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I don't have to be women. That's because that's why that's what that's that's their fight. That's what's going to happen is right. I don't think a lot of you know women athletes's because of that. That's what that's their fight. That's what's gonna happen is right. I don't think a lot of women athletes were thinking about that originally when this first started to happen. And then now that it's starting to unfold and they see that, and then when they start taking
Starting point is 00:22:15 scholarships from other women and they start squeezing them out for the Olympics and things like that, then it's going to be women that come forward and that voice is gonna be heard. Not from a bunch of meathead white males. That's not who's going to listen. Like, they're not going to listen to you or I talk about how it's unfair and that there's no one who gives a fuck about what we have to say about it.
Starting point is 00:22:34 But when a bunch of women that are getting fucked in this situation, realize like, wow, this could get out of control and this could become a problem. And this is really hurting a lot of these female athletes that have been working their entire life for this moment and they get squeezed out because someone decided to change their sex two years ago and now has the ability to come and compete against this. Which by the way, is that can they do? I just said that. I don't know how many years it is. I think it's like three years. You know, they used to be required to have bottom surgery too, but they're not either. They're not required to have surgery just the hormonal change. So they've made it more and more.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I'm sure no, thank really not. It doesn't, but in my opinion, it looked, I don't know how, I don't know how much of a difference this would make. But, it's not a zero dynamic, I know that much. Oh, no. That makes a difference. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:23:21 No, okay, so here, I'm gonna push the controversy, I'm gonna push the controversy a little further. Okay, okay, so here, I'm gonna push the controversy. I'm gonna push the controversy a little further. Okay, okay. So, I think this is important. You guys are familiar with the extremes that athletes will go to, just to win. Well, the case here about to make us a case that I made when we had the two transgenders on.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah, do you think that there's gonna be, I do. There potentially could be somebody that wants to win so bad. That's a repetitive mind. And you remove barriers to let them do that's what's going to stop this that is what's going to really because right now it's kind of you know who wants to tell somebody who has decided to transition their
Starting point is 00:23:54 whole life and there maybe they're not going to go win a competition that they can't go compete with girls and it's not a big deal right now but when it gets so popular that people are going and actually changing their sex to win a gold medal and that happens more than one. People like that would somebody like a lance or a joker. And yes, it will. Yes, it will happen. They do crazy shit anyway.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And the reason why I made that argument when we had the two transgender athletes on our show that that will happen, and I think it's absurd to think it won't happen is because they did that survey on olympic athletes after after what you would you would you uh... if you were going to die five years later okay so they they're into that you want to get the guarantee you are going to win a gold medal would you accept that trade a majority yes like eighty percent or something ridiculous more than half said yes i know
Starting point is 00:24:43 so if more than half the people would accept that they were willing to die five years later, just to achieve this gold medal, what makes you think that there's not a percentage of people out there that would be willing to change their sex just so they could win? I think it's naive to think that that won't happen. So it'll be either ways,
Starting point is 00:24:59 it can be really interesting to watch like what happens after this, right? And see like how, if what's her name again? Laurel Hubbard. Laurel Hubbard, like just wins the gold and then, you know, what kind of response. I mean, is there a chance that she doesn't? Well, of course, I'm assuming it's happened.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But okay, so here's the thing, and this is what this is the worst argument in the world that people try to make. There's a variance in women and a variance in men. The strongest women in the world are stronger than the weakest men in the world. So that's true, right? But that doesn't mean that we're, that generally speaking,
Starting point is 00:25:29 there's an equivalent with physical strength and power and all that stuff. Generally speaking men obviously are several layers higher in performance. That's a fact. So here's the problem. If Laurel Hubbard wins gold, then it's gonna be like, I told you,
Starting point is 00:25:46 this is what's gonna, but here's what might happen. She does it. Laurel Hubbard gets bronze or nothing, right? Then everyone's gonna be like, see, there isn't an advantage. Right. Still not fucking true.
Starting point is 00:25:57 That's still not true. There's a clear advantage. And just because they didn't win first place, second or third, doesn't mean that there isn't a clear advantage. There is an advantage. By the way, you know, Laura Hubbard, when before transitioning, competed as a weightlifter as well.
Starting point is 00:26:11 As a male, right? As a male. And that's where this means yeah. And didn't rank very highly at all. And then transition analysis made it to the Olympics as a 40 something year old athletes. I don't know. I think there's a loud minority that is pro it, doesn't really give it. And then there's
Starting point is 00:26:28 most people who go scratch their head and go like, yeah, I don't, even if you don't understand the science, I think there's still a large portion of people go like, that doesn't seem like it should be fair. Like, I don't think that's right. And I think as more of these cases come out, and when we do start to see what I think we are both predicting is going to happen, which is people transitioning for the pursuit of winning championships and gold medals and so on. And yes, it will happen. It's only a matter of time before it does.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And then when it becomes a thing, when multiple people start doing it, there's going to be a backlash. Well, I think the big thing that will change it is just when there's become super dominant in sport. That's what I think. When you start to see like, oh my gosh, they're crushing it. Well, that's unfortunate for, yeah, those, the women that have been working their entire lives for that moment. Well, first of all, think about like what it takes to be an Olympic athlete, your whole life. By the way, it's already challenging to be a female athlete because the opportunities are still always smaller. Well, I want to defend the transgender too.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It's not like it's easy for them to, just because they were a male before transistors. It doesn't mean all of a sudden they should be great at powerlifting or whatever. To their credit also, they have worked their ass off to get to the level with their ass. Then in their defense, they just want to compete, right? So I made this decision, I want to change my sex. I've always loved competing, where do I go now? And you're your only place, the option they have for you is there.
Starting point is 00:27:54 We haven't figured that out yet, like where it is, the kind of place. Yeah, what was that statistic? It was like the fastest woman in the world ran, like the world record, and then there's something like thousands of high school male athletes do it every year. That do it every single year. just woman in the world ran like the world record and then there's something like thousands of high school male athletes. Yeah, dude every year.
Starting point is 00:28:07 That dude every single year. There's a clear difference there. Please don't gas light everybody. If you wanna be honest, just say, there's an advantage but we don't care. We think this is what we need to do. Then I'm okay. But when you say there's no advantage, come on dude.
Starting point is 00:28:19 No, the strongest fastest, the strongest, fastest, highest jumping, every physical pursuit category, the male version beats the female version. But that doesn't mean that there's not like you said, many women that are extremely strong. There's a lot of women that kick my ass in a boxing ring. There's a lot of women that would throw me around on a Jiu-Jitsu match. But I'm not world-class at any of those things. You take a world-class male at those things and they're gonna win over time
Starting point is 00:28:45 So there's there's a clear and it's not just what I think what people are confused about is that it's a hormone thing It's not just testosterone. It's not no It's not it's not and there's a lot of permanent stuff that happens it muscle memories are very real things So you build a ton of muscle through puberty and you have it as a mail and then you transition You don't lose it's a similar case that we've talked about with MMA athletes who use steroids to get up in a weight class. And then they compete against a naturally bad. That's right, I'll take the natural guy along.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I'll take the natural dude who walks around at 240 his whole life and is used to that and has the bones, the ligaments, the tendons to support that size naturally. Then the guy has to juice himself up. Yeah, then the guy that hormonally shot himself up to get up to that class. That natural dude has the advantage in that situation.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, so. Hey, speaking of athletes, you know how I brought up Andre the Giant in a previous episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talked about like some of the stuff. So I- He made me want to watch it that way. Well, dude, so I pull on. Okay, this guy literally blows my mind
Starting point is 00:29:43 with some of the stuff that I read about him, right? So trip off this, these are some facts about Andre the Giant that are just a total trip. So we talked about his world record of drinking, I thought it was 119 beers in one night, which is insane. That is insane, it's too bad to have fed them that. Okay, I looked it up, right?
Starting point is 00:30:02 I read it with some more statistics, check this out. He drank every day, 7,000 calories worth of booze, every day. Every day. Every day? 7,000 calories of booze. What did he eat? What, how old was he when he passed?
Starting point is 00:30:14 See, he died young because the gigantism, which is this, this is the two-a-turtus, that you end up shooting up, get real big, real strong, and then you get this, where your bones hurt, your joints hurt, and then you die. Now, did you read anything on like, because I don't remember you get this where your bones hurt, your joints hurt, and then you die. Now, did you read anything on like, because I don't remember reading this in the Hitman
Starting point is 00:30:29 book, did he talk about like, you know, why so much alcohol? Like, was he depressed? Was he? I think he just enjoyed it, and he could metabolize it. I mean, he definitely partied all the time in the documentary. It wasn't just alcohol. So when he would go out to dinner, if you wanted to like shock people, this is something that he would do routinely.
Starting point is 00:30:48 You ready for this? At one sitting, he would eat 12 steaks and 15 lobsters. Oh, it's 12 steaks and 50 lobsters. Yeah, we get 10,000 dollar taverns. Yeah, I'm like, I'm super expensive. Just to kind of like shock people. We'd be like, I'll eat this and everyone's gonna freak out. And this is not including the amount of booze that he would throw on top of it. Wow. Yeah, he just shows up at a restaurant. Oh, we're be like, I'll eat this and everyone's gonna freak out. And this is not including the amount of booze
Starting point is 00:31:05 that he would throw on top of it. Yeah, it just shows up at a restaurant. Oh, we're out of the special. Sorry. It's Andre's here. So here's a note, check this out. When he would get surgery, because later on he had to get surgery,
Starting point is 00:31:15 the anesthesiologist had a really tough time figuring out the dosage for the sky because he was massive and he obviously had a metabolism that metabolized. You know what I get, let's say in my head right now. He just said that is like, I can't help but think that you know how you guys have been like a really fine like fish restaurant and they like roll the fish out and you pick your fish. Yeah, I can do like a cow.
Starting point is 00:31:37 What are you like different like different cows? Which one would you like? This is messy. Yeah, I'll take her. Can you cut the leg off? I'll eat the rest. Yeah, no. Oh, 46 years old while he was at you. He also, yeah, he died young, 46. And in those last years, he was in a lot of pain.
Starting point is 00:31:54 You remember the Princess Bride? Yep. Okay, that's a great movie. He's in it. And by that point, he was in a lot of pain. And some many of those scenes, he had to be stabilized by devices and stuff because he had so much backpaint.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yeah, it's sad. Poor guy, right? Yeah. His shoe size was 22, so he had a shoe size of 22. And his ring was so big on his finger that you could put a silver dollar coin through it. Whoa! A silver dollar? I know.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Sossage digits. No way, dude. That's like that. Uh-oh. Yes. Imagine if he was your proctologist That would be a funny the you know 10 10 careers Andre the giant would not be good We should start a second opinion start at list on the forum 10 jobs Andre the giant would not or in the in the YouTube comments 10 jobs
Starting point is 00:32:42 That the I want you to relax. Oh, I don't know. What else? Like what's another job you need? Like you know, you would be terrible at sewing, right? You could be good at sewing very well. You would be good at building legos. His wrist size was the same as a gorilla. So he had a wrist size as big as an average raw. Yeah, massive human. He's probably the closest example of what gorilla strength is probably be like in a human, I would think. Yeah. So I was reading stories about him because I got all deep into it. He would play this prank on his friends and this was he was known for this. They would go somewhere and he would pretend to go to the bathroom and then he would go out and
Starting point is 00:33:20 he would physically move the friend's car somewhere. So he'd lift the car and move it somewhere and the person will go out and'd lift the car and move it somewhere. And the person would go out and think that the car was stolen. Where's my car? And he'd laugh because he picked it up and moved it. That's how frickin' beastly. Have you read it?
Starting point is 00:33:34 I don't know what his some of his physical deadlifting or what he did. I don't think he lifted weights. Yeah, he's mad. He's picked cars up. Yeah. We don't know what his full capacity was. We got never even tested in something. I don't remember this either did they talk about him taking steroids
Starting point is 00:33:50 I imagine he had to if he was in the the WWE run. Oh, no, no, he needed it. No, he didn't take anything. You don't think he took anything No, I know that I a hundred percent he didn't take anything. Oh really? Yeah, dude Wow, it would have I mean it would have probably killed him much sooner. You remember, this guy was flooded. It's so much masked with growth or amounting everything such a young age. You got, you remind me, like, I was, you know who else has that disorder? And now they have surgeries and stuff that can solve it.
Starting point is 00:34:15 What's the story? Tony Robbins. Yeah, Tony Robbins has it. Yeah. And you can always tell kind of the voice, it has this like distinctive sort of sound to you. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, so that he actually takes something to suppress it or, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:28 what do you know about? Do you know about Tony Robbins? What's his health issues? Yeah, I don't know all the details on that. I don't know if it was a permanent thing. Oftentimes, he's in a tumor on the pituitary. And maybe it's been removed, I'm not sure. Oh, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah, so the tumor is making the pituitary produce incredible amounts of growth hormone at a young age and it just keeps going. And so, and then before they knew about the stuff, if you were a kid, it was just like you're just a giant. Like, why is my six year old, you know, six feet tall? Yeah. And they can't really do anything about it. Yeah, so Tony Rahmets had a pituitary tumor at age 31.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So he grew 10 inches in one year. In age 31? At age 31 it was diagnosed. So they discovered it at age 31. When did he grow the 10 inches? When he was a teenager. Oh, okay. I was like, could you imagine being like 30 years old
Starting point is 00:35:21 and all something next year, you're like 10 inches taller? Oh yeah. That would be a weird S thing. That would be kind of cool. Dude, I was speaking as strong man. I was talking to my friend Dennis, you know, he was one of the founders of stick mobility. And he's doing like this really, I always watch his Instagram was he does like really interesting training all the time.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I like their stuff. Yeah, and he does it mainly like based off of old timey, like strong man stuff that he reads all the time. And like you and me both, I kind of have, yeah, we get into that. But he got into, to basically getting into also like neck training and jaw training as well. And he was trying to describe it to me like, you know, in terms of like what your body has.
Starting point is 00:36:00 So if my lats are going to cover more of my lower back and then up into, you know, my thoracic, you know, I, you get into like the and then up into my thoracic. You get into the rhomboy's, it's covering thoracic, you get up to the traps, it has covers both thoracic into cervical. But then the last failsafe being your neck and your jaw, like contributing to that strength in supporting your spine for your cervical spine. And so a lot of strong men used to bite on,
Starting point is 00:36:25 like, they'd be able to lift like 300 pounds with their teeth. Yeah. And it was like, sort of this, this, this other component to lifting that has been totally like, I, I had a kid. I imagine that was part of why Jack Elaine did that feet. I mean, what would, what would make a fitness guy go, I'm going to do a tugboat with my teeth, you know, like, that's an old, so old-timey strong man events, oftentimes included something where they would grab something and lift it with their teeth to show how strong they were. So when you showed me that, my grandfather used to do this.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So I told you guys in my family, like, feats of strength is just like a thing, right? Everybody likes doing it or whatever. I remember when I was a kid going to Sicily and hearing stories of my family, like feats of strength is just like a thing, right? Everybody likes doing it or whatever. I remember when I was a kid going to Sicily and hearing stories of my grandfather, my great-grandfather, and I was into working out and they're like, oh, this is in your blood, this is why you enjoy doing it.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Well anyway, my grandfather used to do this feed of strength where he would say, he's heavy, wood in dining room chairs. And they showed me the chairs, teeth marks all over the back of it. He would lift it. He would bite the back of it and lift the chair with his teeth. This was my grandfather used to do that. That's wild to show everybody. And what's interesting too is like when you see some of these old pictures of these guys like their jaw is just like chiseled You know and it's square and then their teeth are like really pronounced like so you can see the divides in them and they're really healthy looking
Starting point is 00:37:46 It's interesting. Yeah, that's our Our jaws are so weak compared to our ancestors because you figure they were chewing meat They were eating roughage and it was fibrous. It wasn't like you know what we have now All day long. Yeah, it's really really strong. You know soft, you know weenie faces Well, you know neck and neck and jaw training was a part of Mike Tyson's training early on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You ever seen pictures of his neck? I mean, his neck was ridiculous. There's probably a, this is probably part of the reason too, why the, that jazzy-sized guy has done so well. It's probably because. There's some truth to it. Oh, yeah. There is.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah, that's a thing. As gimmicky as it may sound, I mean, I know he's blown up, right? So things don't, it seems so ridiculous stuff, but there's gotta be some value to it. Hey, oh, you know what I forgot? I wanna bring this up. I looked up the psychological term for when people go on the wagon and then they go off the wagon.
Starting point is 00:38:37 There's a natural psychological term for this. That's been studied. Okay, so when I say go on the wagon off the wagon, I'm referring to when people, let's say, they're on a diet and then they decide they're going to go eat a cookie or something, and it ends up turning into a binge, right? Or they just go off the wagon. Yeah, it's like, it's not like a little bit, it's way over the other side. So there's psychological term for it, called abstinence violation. And abstinence violation, it's a phenomenon where because you already broke a hard rule,
Starting point is 00:39:07 even though it might be a small break, now that you broke it, that's it. That's what gates are. What does that say? That's not good. I get that. So, is that a bad thing? Well, it's just a psychological phenomenon, and it's a common one. I don't know if it's a bad one.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It's very common. I mean, I have this, right? So if I have something in the house that I should need to do whatever I thought, like, so okay, we had, what was it for? I don't even know why we had this. Oh, Father's Day. Father's Day, the girls all cooked dinner for my brother
Starting point is 00:39:38 and myself, and then they also ordered my favorite Paris baguette, a blueberry chiffon cake, which I just Is dessert always crack Hey regularly Yo, it's like a oh hoey cookie Yeah, it's fucking some chiffon. Oh, hey, I'm gonna do it dude. I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it dude, I'm gonna do it. I'm saying so I can't don't say that. Hey, it's so you dude, I love it.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Fuck with that stuff, Paris Baguette, that's the company. We're not sponsored by them, I don't get no plug or kick back for this stuff, that is the best cake in the world. I'm like I'll eat some gummy bears. No, see I can't do that, just if I'm gonna go, I don't wanna, but here's the thing though. What happens to me is I have a piece of it and I broke the seals like how I feel.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yeah, and then I'll just I'll finish the cake, you know, just give me the rest of it. It's like it's in the refrigerator. I don't want to go to I don't want it to go to waste, you know, and I feel like I already broke the seal. Hey, isn't it funny? It's not dry out. Isn't it funny that we will justify our behaviors like we'll do it and it's like obviously not good behavior, but then we'll justify. Oh, I'm not wasting it. Yes, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, after the environment.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And I know I'm doing that. What 100% I see what's going justify that. I'm not wasting it. Yes, totally. Yeah, it's bad for the environment. And I know I'm doing that. 100% I see what's going on, so I'm not oblivious. Yeah, but basically the hallmark of this is that what kept you in abstinence was just sheer willpower. And you've made so much of a big deal of being in this box of strict that anything outside of that is, it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, that's what you find that is like that Rigidness like going into it and like the all in so that's part of the on the wagon thing Right, it's like everything has to go specifically now
Starting point is 00:41:12 What what does the now the original term that's got to be cut the had to come from something what is on the wagon off the wagon What's it? What's the origin of that dog like the organ trail? Maybe he's off the wagon No, it's something to do. The daughter party? Something to do. Hey look, let's eat him. Fuck it. We're eating one guy.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Might as well eat the rest of him. I mean, we're already doing it. Yeah, he's off the wagon. Something to do with that's how they were used to carry the alcohol and barrels or some shit like that. Oh, really? Yeah, so that's pretty cool. I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I could totally be making that up. So I don't know. Sounds right. I mean, the psychological phenomenon that you're talking about is that the research and stuff come from trying to track track figure out people with alcohol or is it in just in No, it just literally can be applied. I'm looking up. I'll pull up the study. It can be applied to Speaking of alcohol, by the way, two things, Doug, or I'm going to put it on your to remember for us. I know we're out of the red Stag drink that we all like because we're going with the trucky red
Starting point is 00:42:03 Stag and then I do know that we're starting to dwindle away at the Zbiotic so make drink that we all like because we're going to the trucky. So red stag. And then I do know that we're starting to dwindle away at the Zbiotic. So make sure that we bring, I know we have some Jefferson whiskey. I'll bring up. Whoever was up there last, but did some damage on it. Because I thought we had, I brought the hunter pack of Zbiotics up there.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And where do they all go? Yeah. I mean, we're not like three. Is it me? Yeah, we're not out. But we're definitely, we're definitely dwindling, dwindling down. So we're less than a, less than a third left. So we have we have the whole family everybody up there So I want to make sure that we're doing some of the products. Yeah, yeah, so we're trying to get smashed up there
Starting point is 00:42:34 What I'm not gonna get smashed, but I may have good time and wake up and be cool, right? We're playing on doing some fly fishing. I'm right. Are you really? Yeah, just nobody invited me fly I don't know are you are you a fishing guy? Oh, just like... Nobody invited me. Flat. Well, we love it. I don't know. Are you a fishing guy? No, I'm not. We have an extra pool for you, huh? I got the pole to get the vest, everything for you.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I'll be working out. It's your... I'll be in the gym. We're working out. We do curls, looking at myself. Yes, it's good. Until you guys get back. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Okay, so I looked it up. Right, I looked it up. Absinence, Violet, Violation Effect. So, A-V-E. And basically basically the therapist, when they work on it, what they're trying to do is they're trying to figure out alternative coping mechanisms. So you might have issues coping with something. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Interesting. And here's the on the wagon off the wagon. Yes, yes. Started in the 1890s when men who vowed to stop drinking said they would rather ride a water wagon to get a drink of water than resort to alcohol. Water wagons were commonly seen on the streets at that time. It was a win.
Starting point is 00:43:35 So when a man drank alcohol rather than water, he fell off the wagon. Mm. That's interesting. That's interesting. All right, you guys want to hear another, it's just we're on the cool facts type of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You guys are cool facts. You wanna hear stuff in scary? Yeah. This is true, you're ready for this? Yeah. In 1958, a 7600 pound nuclear bomb, so 7600 pound nuclear bomb, was lost off of the Georgia coast.
Starting point is 00:43:59 It has never been found. How do you lose a 7000 pound bomb? I think a plane was crashing or something that carried it never been found. How do you lose a 7,000-pound bomb? I think a plane was crashing or something that carried it and they dropped it to get rid of it. And there's a nuke off the coast of Georgia that has never been found. It's just chilling. That should scare the hell out of you.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Yes, live anywhere near there. It's not the only one, but there's other nukes that have been lost and they're somewhere and we just don't know. That's true. How? How can you lose it? And then then like we have you send us search party goes in the water It hits the bottom the ocean who knows and it's just there. Yeah, but the technology It's kind of important so I'm
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm gonna Can we can we read don't we have I mean we have shit we can blow up the dirt and be able to hear sound Vibrate back to find a oil is and be able to hear sound vibrate back to find out oil is. You can find oil. Yeah, we can find oil. We can find oil. We can find oil. We can find oil.
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Starting point is 00:45:27 Do you have any people who are speaking of the Titanic? Conspiracy theory. Let's hear it. Oh, yeah. So is it the Olympic? You're on the same level. Yes, yes, I heard this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Is it bullshit or did you look it up? I mean, no, it was a real boat. Like, it was like, had like similar dimensions to Titanic. So, was it Rockefeller? Not Rockefeller. Was it JP a real boat. It had similar dimensions to Titanic. So was it not Rockefeller? Was it JP Morgan? Yes, JP Morgan. I got JP Morgan. And so the conspiracy is that all his competitors that were the powerhouses of the day, all the
Starting point is 00:45:57 millionaires, billionaires of the day, he got to ride the maiden voyage of the titanic and so but he didn't uh... go on the titanic and basically the the conspiracy is that they basically set it up so the uh... uh... the captain would would go directly into the icebergs and say new and that it would seem to kill the competitor because they were challenging uh... jp morgan on the world bank structure that they were challenging G.P. Morgan on the World Bank structure that they were trying to create. And supposedly he canceled last minute. So he was scheduled.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah, so he's scheduled, but then pulled out in the night before. Yeah. But what does it remind me of? Okay, because I listened to somebody talking about this conspiracy a little bit. What does it have to do with, so the thought is that they had another boat
Starting point is 00:46:45 that was the same size or whatever, the Olympic as the Titanic. And so, so there's another conspiracy that says like, it never even sank. Right, that's a Titanic never sank, that it was really the Olympic that they sunk. Yeah, so it's confusing, but there's lots of running theories with it. Well, if you really, if you ever want to really, it's so funny, I just heard that. If you ever really want to trip out, read the, the, the, the creature at Jekyll Island, just go read that. Yeah, and how they created how they got sent the central bank
Starting point is 00:47:15 that sent me down a rabbit whole long time. That, and that's true. Yeah, that's what they literally got together and started writing secret on Jekyll Island. And in the way they got the laws passed through and then the opposing senators and stuff and what happened to them It's well isn't it wild that that's a fishy. That's a private entity, right? Oh, yeah Oh, bro the fact that the government borrows from a private and they have a monopoly
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah, it means there's the exactly means there's a handful of people that are pro we are unbelievably benefiting from We are taking money from a bank that makes our dollars and then we're paying them interest. So the US government doesn't make its own money. We take it from a bank and pay them interest. And that's- James Cameron missed out on a much better movie. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Not the old lady who lost the necklace. Yeah, just. That was her, like, she's like looks at this like jam that's worth like trillions of dollars and just like Conspiracy That would have been way better. Yeah, paint me like one of your French girls I have I have interesting business news. I was reading today So I was reading this article on Microsoft right now and they're they some moves right now with Android phones and the apps and basically what they are doing to compete with Google and Apple is if you have an app through Microsoft and Android
Starting point is 00:48:37 that they are not going to take a cut whatsoever. So you guys know that Apple and Google take 30%. So if you have an app and you monetize it and everything like that, like Apple and Google get 30% of your revenues, Microsoft is giving you 100% of your revenues. Wow. Very smart. It's gonna be very interesting to see what that does. Because it's, man, it's so expensive to even develop one,
Starting point is 00:48:58 let alone, now they're taking a cut once you finally get in the market. Like, think about all those things you have to overcome just to be profitable. This is what I love about the competition of markets. Well, you know, Microsoft is just quietly right below all these companies that we always talk about, the Apple's, the Google's, which are not sexy.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And, well, and they're also never in trouble. They're never like Facebook and like in Google, and they're always getting all this like, you know, the spying, like Microsoft doesn't deal with any of that stuff. No, they just make vaccines. It's not seen. I can't see anything. That's good.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Bill Gates. No, I'm trolling the power line. I mean, this is going to be a really interesting play to see what ends up happening, dude, like as far as that's going to be, that's a big deal. If you're an app developer and you make it, that's a big deal. Super, yeah Super big incentive.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And obviously Android apps, I believe are quite as, maybe go that, Android apps versus Apple apps as far as the size of the business, right? So how many? The market share. Yeah, the market share. Yeah, the market share that Android has in comparison to Apple. I remember when you and I went to the internet.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I know Android's much bigger. No, no, no, no. Not apps, but aren't more phones in the world Android than Apple? Oh you and I were in the head. I know Android's much bigger. Yeah. No, no, no. No. Not apps, but aren't more phones in the world Android than Apple? Oh, I don't know about that. I know about that. I know it's more open source, right?
Starting point is 00:50:11 So they get a lot of different companies that can do more, and it's not like it's controlled as Apple's platform. They just like, you can't do a whole lot. Wow, it looks like I was right. Look at that. Smartphones running the Android operating system hold an 87% share. So you know, OK, no, OK, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Has that is the leader. I think I don't know I can be I don't know. I mean it's again I don't know but the thing that I don't mess with it's interesting obviously obviously the developer and the
Starting point is 00:50:50 The the entrepreneur benefits from from this the consumer doesn't really feel the difference right so if the unless What happens is they significantly reduce their prices on Android right? So oh you get my app that I developed you buy it on Apple I got to charge you $9.99 for the app, but if you get it through Android, I can charge you $5.99 because I'm keeping 100% of the profit, which that will be interesting to see if people start to go. Yeah, we'll have to see too, if that incentivizes people to kind of switch platforms too. I wonder. Yeah, I can't find it either, I'm trying to Google it myself. Yeah, I'll look more into it and then circle back on it I just read it this morning, so I thought it was interesting. I'll get more
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah, I also was interesting. I saw that Netflix had just done a deal with Steven Spielberg. Do you guys see that? What are they doing? Oh, yeah, so basically I don't know if it's like a three-year deal or how How long the deal is but basically he's supposed to produce I think it's either three to five but basically he's supposed to produce, I think it's either three to five movies within the Netflix platform itself. Really? Yeah, through Ambulin, his company. Now, when's the last good Steven Spielberg movie?
Starting point is 00:51:53 You guys know, because I know the classics. He just did one. Did he? Yeah. He just lost one, see what he just did. Yeah, that's a good question. No, because I feel like he did great for a while and then afterwards was no, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:02 He's always got fire, bro. Really? Yeah, Steven, hold on, let me see. Yeah, let's look up recent movies because I hear Spielberg I think which my producer was over yeah I mean Indiana Jones and I mean but so so either way it's that's a big deal for Netflix to to grab a director like plus he was throwing shade at the whole streaming player one bro oh yeah that was really good. That was straight fire. It was super good. Yeah, fire. And you know what he did the post. And so
Starting point is 00:52:29 that was 2000, 2018. And you could tell that was his that was a that was a spillsburg. Oh, my God. It was so good too. So he's still he's still going to be producing movies through universal, I believe, as well. Like so it's like this sort of like he sort of conceded to the fact that yes, through the pandemic and everything else approved, streaming is not going away anytime soon, because he was criticizing a lot of the streaming services when they're going to get awards for, what is it, the Oscars or Academy Awards, whichever one of those. And was like snubbing Netflix and Amazon, all those like films from being nominated.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Oh yeah. So they have for a lot of it. Like about face, now he's like working with them. I mean, we're changing dude. Oh, the changing the guard is in the middle. Are you guys following it all? I have no idea what's happening with movie tickets. Like they're back open.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I mean, movies are, you know, I've been a few times. I bet you they're taking, I don't know any good movies that are out in the movie thing and what we're seeing right now in the summer what i'm really curious about is are we going to continue to see what we've seen through the pandemic in this this early transition which is when a movie hits the theater it also hits HBO max or amazon and you have the option yeah because that's what's gonna be really, I still think there'll be a small market for somebody who's both.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I think it's gonna take some time for people to get back to the theaters, but I do think that that won't go away. It's a cool date night. I mean, because we've been cooped up for so long, I have had the itch for that. As much as I think I would do 90% of my movie watching from home because I like it that way
Starting point is 00:54:06 and I have a setup for that. I still think that 10% of the time, I would say, hey, you know what? We haven't been doing a movie in a few months. Like, let's go do dinner. Let's go. I get a babysitter. Let's go do dinner.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I still enjoy it. I still would enjoy doing that. But nowhere near at the frequency that I was before. I was almost a once a week movie going. Dude, it's a checker to be at home, dude. Yeah, I'll get the hell out of home. So check this out. I looked up Spielberg, right?
Starting point is 00:54:29 Movies. Did you guys know that there's an Indiana Jones project that'll be released in 2022? Yeah. And there's a West Side Story in 2021. Did you guys ever watch West Side Story? Long time ago. Great, great.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It's a musical, right? So, okay, the Indiana Jones, is it through? Who's that through? Who is who owns that originally will Spielberg's universal and also universal George Lucas and Spielberg both connect on I think George Lucas wrote it So then is that connected to the Disney like where will it stream? Oh, yeah, I don't know stream So where will it stream question probably their universal or maybe it's gonna be on Netflix? And I really feel like the what's what we're seeing which I like at least I'm really enjoying it with Disney right now is This whole idea of taking iconic movies and characters and then building spin-offs of it
Starting point is 00:55:12 I mean Loki is just I'm so like into that show right now. I'm gonna. They are doing such a great I'm gonna sell my idea right now because I want someone to make this damn movie. I want someone to make this Yeah, okay, I'm wearing a shirt right here. Mickey's just talked about this. Make a rocky spin-off where we see Mickey as a boxer, growing up Irish immigrant, you know, fighting in the dirty days of boxing, where there were no rounds and leading up to him,
Starting point is 00:55:40 owning his own gym. Tell me when to watch that shit. I love it. That would be so awesome. How would you watch it, bro? Totally. I would watch it too. Mickey's one of my favorite characters.
Starting point is 00:55:48 He's iconic. I mean, yeah, I'm not going to debate that. But I do. He was an old angry man. I feel like we're talking about when you talk about Marvel, when you talk about Indiana Jones, when you talk about Star Wars, you're talking about, I feel like it's like apples and oranges. Like it's not the same.
Starting point is 00:56:06 It's not the same. Rocky, Rocky with the Rocky franchise kept going. Yes, and if you cater to the hardcore fans by doing a Mickey story, are you kidding me? You got guaranteed. The reason why I say that is, and I'm not, okay, I know I'm affinning all the fucking Italian people like you that are worship, or I of you. Hey, Mickey's Irish. But there's something about the mystery behind characters in these crazy movies like Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:56:34 like that you could take a guy like Mandalorian who doesn't speak. That's why the prequels didn't land for me because it was all trying to lead up to Darth Vader, like the big reason why Darth Vader became who he was and I just felt like it didn't have enough. Like, they just didn't nail it. So that's my fear of something like the Rockies,
Starting point is 00:56:52 that it's not a nut, like, yes, though it'd be cool, yes, I like the whole idea of that. But their character isn't intriguing enough that you could build a 12-part, you know, multiple seasons. Is that intriguing enough? No, not like a Mandalorian. Not like a Mandalorian, not like a Loki, not like something that you can build
Starting point is 00:57:10 this crazy creative, like, angle and twist. Listen, pretty creative writers out there. If you disagree with Adam, leave a comment. Let him know what you call it. I want to see it happen. Of course, I want to see it happen too. I'm just saying it's like, remember the story he's trying to take? take your try to make a leap comparing Rocky to
Starting point is 00:57:28 Okay, yeah, Star Wars, I'm a you should know that no, it's different. It's a different animal But I still want to see it happen. Yes, and I'm a boxing historian and let me tell you those early years of boxing I love it right? So proclaimed. I like the history of boxing. For all those early days of boxing, there were no rounds in order to win. You essentially had to kill someone. Do you know some of these fights? Not for like 50 rounds and they just beat the shit at an old Irish,
Starting point is 00:57:56 but he's Irish immigrants. Well, this is how these they were settled debates. Yeah. And it was honor and whatever. But anyway, remember the stories you would tell Rocky, how the guy put the nail on his glove and clutch holes into his face. Oh, see, I wanna see those stories happen real life. It would be great.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I wanna make you a greasy, fast, Italian tank. It could be really cool. You're gonna eat what is it? You remember it or grab maybe a far and away? That was great movie. It was a great movie. I mean, it could be kind of like that. That was it.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Did you like that movie? You know, like vaguely remember, I know I've watched it, but. Remember Tom Cruise? Yeah. He was the Irish immigrant boxer. Yeah, and he's kicking away. It was, did you like that movie? I, you know, like vaguely remember, I know I've watched it, but- Remember Tom Cruise? Yeah. He was the Irish immigrant boxer. Yeah, and he's kicking his way down.
Starting point is 00:58:30 It was a long movie, too. It was like three and a half hours long, but I really liked it. That was a good movie. It's like one of those ones it's like, you have to watch it at least once, but I don't know if I've watched it more recently. It wasn't quite like a rocky for us,
Starting point is 00:58:40 you know Irish people, but, you know, it was okay. Like, come on, Tom Cruise, he's a good actor, but he's not a tough guy. He's short. No, he's short. He's like a five-five. It doesn't mean you're not tough.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Pitchquee, I know some short guys look. There's a lot of five-five guys that are tough. Pitchquee, cause that's social. That's when Nicole Keeman, she was man. She was, I had a big crush on her. Remember that? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, she's nice to look at.
Starting point is 00:59:02 This quaz brought to you by Organifi. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. She's nice to organify.com. That's a large, G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code mind pump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Wajs 88. If you have a hard time activating and focusing on your non-dominant side, should you be doing extra reps on that side? Not extra reps, but rather focus more on control, slow your reps down, and focus on stability, and use the weak side as the guide for the strong side. So in other words, that's the side that dictates the reps and the weight that you use. What are their app that was confusing the question? They're asking, should they do the side that's weaker?
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah, more reps, trying to bring it up with reps. But you know, by the way, get activated. Oftentimes, the weaker side, sometimes it actually has less muscle. But oftentimes, muscle mass wise, they're almost the same. It's weaker because you're less connected to it. That's right. So focus on the connection to it. And then, and you can totally do this.
Starting point is 01:00:20 You know, there's a famous story of, God, who was this? Damn, who's the boxer? It was another boxer who broke his right hand and had to practice with his left and ended up becoming a great left-handed boxer as a result because he always practiced with his left. So you can take your non-dominant side and bring it up quite a bit, you just have to slow down.
Starting point is 01:00:40 You don't have to focus on the conversation. I'm glad you picked this question and that's good for us to kind of go on this tangent a little bit with this because we have discussed this multiple times and I think it was me originally who talked about like how I would solve this with clients but something that we didn't address that you just brought up that I think is really important
Starting point is 01:00:56 is the side that is less dominant that feels technically weaker. It's a lot of times it isn't that. It's just, yeah, poor connection or you have limited range of motion in that, and it's not necessarily a muscle thing, and part of a postural thing too. And one of the things you gotta be careful
Starting point is 01:01:12 that we've said this, right? Use the non-dominant side to dictate how many do on the other side. But here's the thing, when I'm doing that, right? Or when I, especially when I was doing this early on in my career when I had discrepancy if I'd left and right on bicep curls, is my right side that is
Starting point is 01:01:25 less dominant. I could still get let's say, you know, 10, but the last two were like sloppy looking. So it wouldn't, it's not going to help you very much to do eight really beautiful form and then two sloppy ones and then come over and get matched 10. Yeah. Because you're what you, you're still playing into that. So the so good that you brought that I was we haven't discussed the importance of that that you need to stop it. The moment the form breaks down, that's the end of the wrap. You have to be a lot more intentional with that. So it's not just about wraps or just about like catching it up. It's really about connecting to it and how to do that by setting up your
Starting point is 01:02:03 body in good position and having good mechanics all the way through. So just slowly going through that, squeezing a bit more, taking your time with it, maybe going slower with your reps too. And then whatever that side does dictates the other side. And then also, this also highlights, you should go in and Whatever the the the the closest joint is and address potential mobility issues there so You know and see if you if there is a clear discrepancy between left and right I mean I just shared that post from Andrew Spina right is Andrews Andrews Andrew. I always say and real yeah Andrea. We know you're talking
Starting point is 01:02:43 Andrea Spina, right? And I absolutely love his content. He did this post that said, if you have 60% capacity in your left hip and 40% capacity in your right hip, no amount of glued exercises is ever going to balance that out. Like you have to address your ability
Starting point is 01:03:04 to control each joint equally. So in order to balance the muscle out and keep yourself from shifting left to right in a squat, the same thing is true when we're talking about what we're talking about right now. There's a discrepancy left to right. If you have a one forward shoulder, you know, it's going to affect the other shoulder as well. Yeah, your chest. Yeah, and there's this fear, I think sometimes when people do this kind of unilateral training, that they're going to lose their max performance and their barbell exercises. I learned this firsthand recently. I had stopped squatting for months because I had an issue with my SI joint on one side and my back was
Starting point is 01:03:40 kind of starting to hurt and so I said, okay, I'm gonna do four months of lunges and single leg exercises, essentially unilateral type stuff or split stand stuff and then see what happens and I did balance myself out quite a bit. When back to squats and came out stronger, you know what's funny about that? Who cares though anyways? It's so funny unless you're, I know, but who cares? Like why that to me it's like so funny that unless you were, I don't know, but who cares? Like, to me, it's like so funny that, unless you were a power lifter, you know what I'm saying? Like, who cares? Who cares if my barbell squat did drop 200 pounds?
Starting point is 01:04:15 It doesn't fucking matter. If you fixed an imbalance and you got strong doing Bulgarian split squats, that's a huge win. Even if you lost 10% of your barbell back squat, and I really blame, this is one of the things I don't like, it's been a while since I've we've harped on CrossFit.
Starting point is 01:04:31 When I remember when CrossFit got introduced to our space, I didn't know what a PR was. So I was a trainer for at least five, six years. Never heard the term PR in my life. Didn't know what that was. Didn't know what that was. Didn't know what that was. I thought it was public relations.
Starting point is 01:04:44 That's what I thought. That's what I think. That's what this PR agent said. I did not, I've never heard, did you guys remember hearing that before? I never heard that. Not the term, yeah, max, I was max. Yeah, it was a huge max. And even then, a lot of people didn't talk about maxing out that often. It wasn't a common thing that you heard in the gym.
Starting point is 01:04:58 It was just us bros. But it became very popular to be hitting PRs and talking about that all time. That now everybody looks at that as their measure of Success of like oh, I you know, I moved my bench press or my barbell squad up Well, if you if you moved your barbell squad up by 20 pounds But you still have fucking shit mobility or your ankles bothering you here or your hip who cares? Yeah, you know, I'm saying and especially if you're the average person who just wants to look good, feel good, build a little muscle lean out,
Starting point is 01:05:28 you can do all of those things and lose your barbell back squat strength and still kick ass at all those things. So it's like, who cares? Yeah, the market for knee sleeves and elbow sleeves and all that, they care. Yeah. And Ben Gay.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Next question is from Deoos 134, can meditation help increase muscle gains? Yeah, absolutely. It can't. Okay, so why? Now is there a direct effect? Not necessarily, but let's examine what meditation has a profound effect on.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Stress, okay. Chronic stress, chronic moderate, low to moderate levels of stress, raise cortisol, cortisol in the short term produces energy, but in the long term, eats away at muscle and promotes fat storage. It's a stress hormone, so it's burning energy, but also over time, it's going to make sure that you burn less calories, become more efficient, and store more calories as body fat, because again, it's a stress response.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Stress lowers testosterone, decreases insulin sensitivity, become more efficient and store more calories as body fat because again it's a stress response. Stress lowers testosterone, decreases insulin sensitivity, lowers growth hormone, of course it affects your sleep and the quality of sleep. Do all of those things have negative effects or affect muscle gains at all? Absolutely. So, if meditation improves your quality of life and reduces your stress, then the effects are higher testosterone, better insulin sensitivity, lower cortisol, better sleep, and therefore the results of that will be, you'll build more muscles.
Starting point is 01:06:55 So there's obviously there's tons of science to support this, that this is a fact. Now what's tough, and Justin and I were talking off here about this other day, that I- Meditation? Yeah, that I want it. We actually were. That's weird. Well, Justin was talking about how he's just like, it is not my thing, like I just, I hate it.
Starting point is 01:07:11 But here's, everybody thinks that you need to get in a quiet, dark room and cross your legs, close your eyes and home. Yeah. You know, for- Yeah, it's like- You can walk and meditate. It's just about being present. You can walk and meditate. It's just about being present. You can fish and meditate.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Exactly. It's about being super hyper focused and present in the moment, in the now. Not stressing out about months before or what's to come. It's literally being in yourself in that moment and time and not allowing all these other distractions around you. And so that can look different for many people. And the practice of that is going to do a lot more
Starting point is 01:07:48 than just build muscle for you. Building muscles is one of the byproducts of that, but it's also got tremendous value outside of it. Oh yeah, creating that space where, you know, it's this quiet, intentional, you're very present. Like for me, like I was talking to him about this, it was archery.
Starting point is 01:08:06 And so that was something where I'm out in nature, I'm by myself, I set up a target, and I'm just kind of slowly mechanically going through the process of aiming, and then now I'm looking at it for quite some time. I'm trying to really like slow my heart rate down, I'm breathing really slow, I'm hyper focusing in one direction.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And it's just, for me, it's a practice. And so, I utilize that as breath control, I utilize that as being very hyper focused in one thing. And everybody has their own way of dealing with this. And there's, again, it's great to be able to get to a place where you can kind of get in that meditative, like space where you're anywhere.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Like that's the ideal way to do it. But for sure, in terms of like countering stress and bringing that down, we've seen so much result from that. And one of the clear examples of that was when I was up in Stanford, and I was watching Cory Slesinger when he was still there before he went to the suns, and he had like everyone of his athletes monitored with their stress, and he was able to kind of look
Starting point is 01:09:16 at all their levels like all day long, and write programs that were very specific to what they needed based on what state of stress their body was in and they got tremendous results. And ironically, the suns are gonna go all the way. There you go. Our boys killing it. No, I'll take it.
Starting point is 01:09:35 It's one of the main reasons why I'm so consistent with working out. For me, it's so meditative. I literally, and this is why you guys see me when I come in here, even when we're all working out, oftentimes I'll put my headphones on. It's not becauseitative. I literally and this is why you guys see me when I come in here even when we're all working out oftentimes I'll put my headphones on. It's not because I prefer the music in my headphones than to the in the gym. It's it's it's It blocks everything else out. It puts me more in that meditative state. 100% and it's it's the most meditative thing that I do It makes me very present. I oftentimes don't think about anything else
Starting point is 01:10:02 So it's an hour of being present and it has profound effects on me mentally and psychologically, which I know can benefit me. So, and by the way, if you are on a health and fitness journey long enough, you're gonna end up here. I'm telling you right now, you can focus all you want on a position, you can focus on exercise, then maybe you'll look at sleep. But at some point, you're gonna get to this spiritual practice,
Starting point is 01:10:25 which meditation would fall under, because at some point it's gonna lead you there, because this actually is the root of most health. It's the root, because as we're present, here's why I'm gonna make sense of it. When you understand presence and how to be present, and you've kind of, I don't wanna say mastered that, but it's something that's a part of your practice, your diet is naturally more balanced. Your workouts are naturally more balanced. Your sleep is much better.
Starting point is 01:10:50 It actually contributes to everything in ways that everything else doesn't necessarily contribute to everything else. Yeah. Next question is from Chilate. How do I get rid of shoulder-winging? What sort of problems will I face if I don't address it? Well, let's talk about the problems first.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Okay, so the scapula and the way that it moves, right, the way that it retracts and elevates and rotates and wings and all that stuff is a very important part of shoulder function. So when you look at the shoulder and your ability, like if I were to reach up with my arm and prevent my scapula from rotating up, I'd be very limited with my movement. Any further movement requires scapular mobility, for example. It's a very important part of shoulder movement. So if your shoulder blade is unstable, you will develop shoulder problems.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Aesthetically, you'll develop muscular issues as well, but you're going to have shoulder pain and shoulder problems. Here's an easy way to work on this. Try this first because you wanna do this without resistance before you start to do this with resistance. Practice a front lats spread. This is a pose and body building.
Starting point is 01:11:56 This particular pose, you know, a bodybuilder's make their lats come out. That is, that movement requires the scapula to come in and come out. So rather than wing back, right, it's externally rotating and flattening out. Practice that. Once you can start to kind of get that movement,
Starting point is 01:12:10 then what you can do is you can put your hands up against the wall, you can bring your shoulder blades back and then round your shoulders into a lat spread. And just practice that movement, get that down, and then you can make the resistance more challenging by going on a decline. And then of course, I like that.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And just scapular circles. And just like really like adding tension to that. So we start building in that added support by being able to recruit, you know, the musculature around it. So you did that in the webinar, right? Yeah. So that's the direction I would point you guys. I was smirking at Sal when he was talking about that
Starting point is 01:12:39 because I've worked with a lot of clients that are like higher level, you know, trying to compete, right? So, you're competitors. And one of the hardest things to teach somebody who's even been working out for 10 years and wants to- Very hard. Is the digital ad spread.
Starting point is 01:12:56 So I'm over here laughing because I'm like, you just told our audience to like practice a lot spread, which is fucking hard to do for a lot of people. I find it very easy to do because we've been training this for a very long time and I think it is a great way to help this, but if you've got somebody with a winging scapula or any if you're an average person who's just really getting into fitness, learning to do a lats spread is one of the hardest poses for anybody to do.
Starting point is 01:13:19 You're gonna have to learn it though. You can do all the scapula circles you want, but you're gonna have to learn that connection, that movement of spreading your lats or rounding the shoulders forward and flattening the scapular. You have to learn that. I mean, I like taking like a really light seated row and exaggerating the forward and the retract. Let it pull forward. Let the shoulders completely roll forward and then completely roll back. Yeah, really. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:48 So a seated cable row, let the shoulders completely roll forward, which will give you that flair that Sal's kind of talking about and then retract and roll back. And it's a lightweight and then put emphasis on the both ends, right? So as I'm out, I'm going to I'm going to let it be stretched out for a few seconds. So three to five seconds. Or reach out with it. Yeah, right. And then after that, I'm gonna come back in,
Starting point is 01:14:09 and I'm gonna squeeze, and at the end, I'm gonna hold for three to five seconds. So create those isometric portions of the movement, and do that with a weight that's relatively light. And you can do that with a band too, so bands work for this, but I think the cable is a great place to start. That's probably the place I would start somebody.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Now of course, I would love to get them to a place where I could have them stand and then be able to do that. I mean, have you guys worked with people who have wings? Oh yeah, yeah. It's pretty common. It's one of the harder things to correct. It is. It's a very challenging thing to correct
Starting point is 01:14:40 because connecting to that movement can be, you know, so damn hard. And once you get it, you get it. Yeah. And the person should know this too. Be ready for your bench and shoulder press and a lot of these movements that you're used to doing to probably regress a little bit to get good at that.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Because you've probably got good at the, Sal talks about the Hutton Peck method. So your pattern of movement, if you've been exercising with a winging scapula for a long time, now trying to get you to move that correctly and then go do these exercises used to, be ready for you to have to reduce weight and don't let that stop you from doing this. Next question is from Spreetzel 28.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Is there any benefit in taking a non-stem pre-workout? So pre-workout that doesn't include stimulant? I'll tell you what try you do that more often than not right well no I do these days because of the sleep the stuff Before your son I would say I'm on a fedger now. Yeah, before your son. I'd say you almost always did non-stem Yeah, so now I know is is also a Doug probably the most now. Yeah, he requests that every time we- Try Legion non-stem pulse and tell me that you don't notice something. Now is it gonna be the same as taking caffeine?
Starting point is 01:15:51 No, but the compound's in there. You definitely notice a difference in performance. There's other things you can do by the way to improve your performance that don't are not stimulant. Like drink more water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like before you work out, drink more water. If you're somebody who has a low carb diet
Starting point is 01:16:08 or a low processed food diet, drink a nice big glass of a bottle of element. I was just gonna say I was gonna push to the end. Oh yeah, yeah. Drink element, get that sodium in you because you're probably need it. And then go work out. Is it technically how to say,
Starting point is 01:16:23 because you say it all the time in the podcast, I wonder how many people go online and go E L E M E T. It's L M N T, but element is what they're trying to say. L M N T is the company. Yeah. And but that reminds me why we're talking about this because we have a large YouTube audience, YouTube audience now that didn't know about the show before. One of the easiest things. So we talk about so many things that we work with and partners.
Starting point is 01:16:43 If you go to Google and Google Mind Pump Partners, a link will pop up with every partner that we work with, all the discount codes on anything. So for the audience, it doesn't know that one of the easiest ways to find its own website, but you have to kind of dig and look for it. Easiest thing to do is Google MindPump Partners and any company that we work with or talk about pops up. I think some of the benefit, by the way, of taking something before you work out. So I'll tell you guys a story.
Starting point is 01:17:08 When I was a kid and I started working out, I was into supplements immediately. I always thought it was this cool thing that could improve my performance and build muscle. And I was always studying and looking for ways. When I went back in those days, the only supplement, as long as I'm talking about, I'm 15, the only thing I had access to was in my parents' cupboard
Starting point is 01:17:27 and it was a vitamin C packet. I emergency, I think it was called. Do you guys remember those? It's like a thousand milligrams of vitamin C. And I would take it before I work out. So I would definitely notice improvements in my performance. Now, it's not because vitamin C improves your performance, it doesn't, but it was the ritual of it. There's a lot, there's a lot to be said about ritualizing
Starting point is 01:17:50 your actions before you work out, taking something like a pre-workout or glasses of water with sodium. Those actually have some benefits, but part of the benefit is also the ritual, like I'm preparing for that. I would almost make the case, the argument that majority of the benefits of a lot of supplements is placebo is simply that is. And I know this for my for myself, my clients, like, oh, I'm spending $200 and some dollars a month on all these supplements. If I'm taking all of them, I'm going to be, yeah, I don't want to waste them. So I want to make sure I'm working out. I want to make sure I'm eating better her in some dollars a month on all these supplements. If I'm taking all of them, I'm gonna be, I don't want to waste them. So I want to make sure I'm working out. I want to make sure I'm eating better and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:18:28 So I think that a lot of the benefits that you see from a lot of people. Well, that's how I feel, especially if you're asking about non-stem to me. It's really, it's a belief system we're talking about now. You know, like I believe this is gonna work for me. Unless you're like super deficient in some of those nutrients, I don't understand like what that really does. Well, have you noticed, because I don't add them, did it, but have you noticed the element T,
Starting point is 01:18:53 are you taking that for the T for sure? Well, that's different because that should be deficient. You could be very deficient in sodium. And also, yeah, retaining a good amount of water to help you. I mean, we've talked about this on the show for a long time. By the way, by the way, real quick talked about this on the show for a long time. By the way, real quick, sodium with creatine increases its absorption and utilization.
Starting point is 01:19:09 You guys know that? I just learned that. Sodium with creatine will make you utilize more of the creatine. Oh, that's interesting. You don't have to do sugar, you could do sodium. That's interesting. I mean, we've talked about this on the show
Starting point is 01:19:20 for a long time that, you know, number one thing always is diet first with before supplement supplements are such a small percentage of your results. And then before you get into performance supplements, build muscle, burn body fat, whatever type of supplements, always addressing all the essential things that you need, and non-essential even like your macro-micronutrients, if you're deficient anywhere, and by the way, those are the cheapest ones. Okay? To go pick up some vitamin D,
Starting point is 01:19:48 if you're lacking that or C, or B vitamins, that stuff is cheap as fuck. So it's super cheap to get that stuff, and that will do more for most people, just by getting what you need that your body was wanting from you to operate optimally. You'll get great muscle building, but fat burning, health, energy, all those benefits
Starting point is 01:20:09 from getting all that balanced, then you will taking the latest greatest fat burner muscle builders supplement that's on the market. So, I always say there for food first, then after you're consisting with your food, where is it that I lack? And that's why I think the sodium is such a game changer.
Starting point is 01:20:26 For some of you people. Because the point that you make that so true is that if you go from somebody who eats out, and then you go on to a diet and you make a new lifestyle change to eating healthier, just by you switching from eating fast food, which is crazy the amount of sodium that you get from fast food. And that's all fast food, even healthy like Chipotle and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:20:48 If you eat out a lot, super high in sodium, super high in sodium, and then also new side you're going to start making your meals and making healthier, better choices. Even if you salt the shit out of it, it doesn't even come close to the amount of sodium they pack in it. So, real quick, you can become somebody who's eating healthy, exercising really well, but not getting enough sodium, and you feel that stuff. I think that's why it's doing so well with us.
Starting point is 01:21:08 I mean, LMNT is like for sure one of the number one things which we would have never thought. I know. But again, you probably take it and you feel it. You know, I would so so funny too, is that I'm sure you guys have experienced this. I've always recommended to my endurance athletes to add a little bit of salt to the water,
Starting point is 01:21:26 because they all know me. And pink salt. Yes, and with funnies, I never applied it to myself. You know, and now that I deal with, oh yeah, of course. Well yeah, because I always associated with endurance running, or like, you know, some kind of long-winded workout, but like, yeah, if you're eating that way,
Starting point is 01:21:42 like clean and you're trying to like focus on whole foods that aren't like processed or anything, it's a massive difference between what you're eating that way, like clean and you're trying to like focus on whole foods that aren't like processed or anything, it's a massive difference between what you're eating before to now. And speaking of micronutrients, I supplement with, you know, five to 10,000 I use a vitamin D a day. I get my blood tested relatively regularly and my vitamin D right in the middle. So it's very interesting where as some people, we need more vitamin D and others not as much. I thought taking so much vitamin D at some point
Starting point is 01:22:09 I have to reduce it, nah, I'm right in the middle and I take a shit ton of it all the time. And that's because I do, you know, blood tests. Look, if you like our content and you probably do because we're awesome, head over to MindPumpFree.com. We lot, lots of free giveaways for you, guides that help you burn body fat, we'll help you build muscle work on specific body parts
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