Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1621: The Ideal Range of Motion to Maximize Gains, How to Balance Bodybuilding With Playing Sports, Tips to Improve the Front Rack Position & More
Episode Date: August 18, 2021In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the proper full range of motion for a squat, ways to improve the front rack position, how much muscle imbalance is ...normal, and doing social level adult sports and bodybuilding at the same time Mind Pump’s first post-illness workouts and updates on their health. (4:46) The wonderful world of gymnastics. (8:56) A very Happy 90th Birthday to Sal’s grandfather. (17:18) Shout out to T-Nation! (22:23) What is CBD not good for? (29:07) Mind Pump Recommends, Fantastic Fungi on Netflix. (30:52) Reverse Recommendations with Sal: The Suicide Squad on HBO Max. (37:10) Are dating apps giving people TOO MANY options? (41:23) Pumpkin Spice Gold Juice from Organifi is BACK! (46:00) Disney’s unusual protocol. (47:16) Elon Musk’s plan to send humans to the moon. (52:09) #Quah question #1 – What is a proper full range of motion for a squat? Is it bad to lock out your knees? (56:32) #Quah question #2 – Can you provide recommendations to improve the front rack position? (1:03:53) #Quah question #3 – How much muscle imbalance is normal? (1:09:40) #Quah question #4 – Can you do social level adult sports and bodybuilding at the same time? (1:14:16) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Strong and MAPS Powerlift 50% off! **Promo code “AUGUSTSPECIAL” at checkout** T-Nation Stuff We Like The Resistance Training Revolution – Book by Sal Di Stefano Cannabidiol Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication and Promotes the Host Innate Immune Response Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Fantastic Fungi | Netflix The Suicide Squad | In Theaters and on HBO Max Indian Matchmaking | Netflix Official Site Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “mindpump” at checkout** Disney Has a Code and Procedure for Vacuuming Ashes Elon Musk plans to send humans to the moon before 2024 Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “mindpump” at checkout for 15% off your first order** Mind Pump #1467: How To Squat For Your Body Type With Dr. Aaron Horschig Squat University How To Bulletproof Your Wrists – Mind Pump TV MAPS Prime Webinar Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Mike O'Hearn (@mikeohearn) Instagram Joey Swoll (@joeyswoll) Instagram Dan Bilzerian (@danbilzerian) Instagram Max Schmarzo (ATC/CSCS/MS) (@strong_by_science) Instagram
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This is Mind Pump, alright, in today's episode.
We answered some health and fitness questions,
but the way we opened the episode
is with an intro portion where we talk about current events.
We tell fun stories, we talk about our sponsors.
Yeah.
Today's intro was 51 minutes long after that,
we got to the question.
So here's what went down in today's episode.
We opened up by talking about the first post sickness workouts. We're all pretty much healed.
So we're getting back to the gym.
So we talked about what it's like to work out after being sick.
Then Justin talked about gymnastic culture.
He actually went to go watch his boys compete in a gymnastic event
and noticed the culture of gym.
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Dude, I had my my first
post illness workout. Oh, you did? I did. I haven't yet. So I Did you ease into it? Yeah, I'm sure. You're crazy. No, you know what? This is a good actually good thing to talk
a good topic to talk about too because
oftentimes when we're ill and then we feel better, we go back to working out
and this I always felt for this too.
I would have this mentality where I would jump in
to what I last left off.
I mean, so I was doing six sets for each body part
and this is the weight that I was using.
And I've learned my lessons so many times,
well I haven't learned my lessons so many times
where I just over did it.
So this time what I did is I went in,
I cut the volume in half, totally,
went really slow and really the goal was just full range
of motion.
And I think what people need to know
is that's enough to elicit the muscle memory.
So whatever you lose, you'll gain back very quickly
with a very easy workout.
And I plan on doing that all week.
You did too, right, Doug?
Did I hear you say you were back?
I did.
Oh, I'm just the only lazy bastard here.
I'm the slow one here.
Yeah, I'm just wanna say that.
Stay fit.
Just sit around mind-stuff.
No, bro, I'm getting shredded right now.
Nothing tastes good.
That's so, that's okay.
Does your taste still messed up?
Yeah, that came later for me.
So like I would say day five or so,
it really started to, like initially,
I remember when we were all talking,
everybody was on the phone going like,
hey, you guys, how's everyone's tasting?
I was like, oh, mine's fine.
And then like day five, all of a sudden it started.
And it's, I have taste.
It's just fucked all my taste and smell up.
It's weird.
So everything just tastes different.
Yeah, it tastes and not good.
Really?
Yeah, so food has just been,
soup is like the best tasting taste.
You might have just stumbled upon
the best cutting diet of all time.
I was gonna write the bad soup diet.
I mean, it's the soup diet.
Imagine.
That's your diet.
Imagine if food just didn't taste good,
how easy it would be to lose weight.
That sounds awesome.
No, I lost my sense of taste for like not even a day,
how weird is that?
Literally for one day.
That's it?
That's where it got.
So for one day I was eating and I'm like,
oh man, I lost my sense of taste.
I'm like, I know this usually takes a couple weeks.
The next day back.
Oh wow.
Here's a weird thing that I got.
I got a very strange rash.
Oh yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
You sure that wasn't like an SDD thing?
Yeah, where was it?
Yeah.
Oh my bunch.
It was all up and down the bunch.
Yeah, you sent me a picture.
Yeah, hold on, let me show you that.
No, all right.
That's a friction rash.
Yeah, no, I didn't get any feel in my bunch.
No, I took a shower and I get out and I'm like,
am I breaking out?
That's really weird.
And it looked like I was kind of breaking out
on my shoulders a little bit and then I looked
down on my forearms and it kind of looks like
I broke out a little bit but it's,
COVID apparently can cause rashes in people also, which is an unknown,
I didn't know this. So I had a very, very, it's very minor. So it's not that big.
Now, Jessica rebounded pretty fast, you said, huh?
She seems to be, she seems to be rebounding pretty quick. So she's like three days behind me.
Yeah. And I would say aside from feeling tired, she, she, she seems to be okay.
And then the baby, he had a fever two nights.
During the day he didn't, then two nights he had a fever
and then now he doesn't have anything.
And he seems, he just seems a little bit more clingy right now,
but that's it. Other than that, he seems.
Okay, so.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah, but yeah, as far as the workouts are concerned,
when you're after an illness or injury,
like literally throw away what you know, Yeah, as far as the workouts are concerned, when you're after an illness or injury,
like literally throw away what you normally consider
to be an easy workout and go much easier. And you'll bounce back very quickly
and then give yourself a time frame.
It's what I have to do with myself.
I have to say this whole week,
because I know what I'll do is I'll do one workout.
I'll feel good and then try and go.
Oh sure.
Might as well go hard tomorrow, I feel phenomenal.
And then you ended up overdoing it and, you know, slowing down your progress or whatever.
So today I was just going easy, Doug and I were literally, it was like a 25 minute, 30
minute, you know, kind of pump session or whatever.
Justin, I see you all over the place.
Where were you doing down and slow?
Yeah, I was down there for my kids, hubbings, gymnastic kind of tournament thing.
Dude, I've been super active the
last week or so we haven't been hanging out. Just been between moving stuff and then
also like double days football like because I've been able to get work done and then like
remotely I was actually able to get there on the field and dude, I've been working out.
My metabolism is raging right now. Eating in sight it's crazy man but we went down to what's that I
say you look really handsome thanks sorry yeah yeah so it's I went down there
and this is my first experience with gymnastics people. So it was a bit of a culture shock for me.
I didn't really know where to stand or how to hang out or anything or like cheer.
It's where to put your hands.
Yeah, I'm like, what do I do with my hands?
Like put in your pockets because you know, it's creepy.
Yeah, so there's lots of spandex and certain colors that don't really
appeal to me if you will. It was kind of funny because so they have like specific uniforms
after wear and so my kids had on these like like really tight tank tops that were like unitards almost and they put like these little tiny shorts on
I was trying not to laugh, but they're having fun with it, you know, they're having big fun each other with it, but
Dude, they did it really well and then
Actually after the first day
Ethan was trying this one move that was some crazy, brony thing.
They have this huge foam pit where he's doing these triple flip things.
He actually landed one after that on a trampoline and then got some a word for it.
I was like, oh yeah.
That's awesome for him.
Super proud dad moment.
So there's definitely a culture.
There's definitely, because I remember,
you guys remember when we did the kettlebell competition
here?
There was a, like, kettlebell sport we actually hosted
in a event.
And all of us were, you know, this is for listeners.
We were all kind of blown away that they have their own
culture.
Like everybody had like a particular brand of bag and shoes and everybody kind of, and
of course, right?
There's a culture for every sport, bodybuilding, it could be jiu-jitsu, whatever.
So I would imagine gymnastics has its own kind of culture too.
Did you see a lot of that?
Clicky or what?
Yeah, well, I think a lot of the parents can to know each other beforehand and so
Like me and Courtney were just kind of I mean we were trying to be friendly and introduce ourselves to everybody not be like total
You know like her mates over in the corner, but it was still it was still like
Who's who it was kind of like a status weird kind of rich people sport, you know,
where it's like, it costs money to get these kids like all, you know, formed up and go
to travel and do all these things.
So it's kind of like clicky in that sense where, I don't know, It was a certain kind of a snobby kind of a feel to it. And then also just like,
who's what program they have their kids in and like they're all talking about like, you know,
like all this like higher education stuff and and we're just like, cool. You know, like is anybody
just like chill and normal or is it like, yeah. Well yeah? Well, it's like the who's who of what to South's point is was there like I mean was there like a chairs and outfits or bags or things like
I mean where you up and up on like how you were supposed to look yeah
So there's like track suits and there's there's bags for sure and there's some like they
They all They all have like tight really tight
a tire that they're rocking and that's a parent's too yeah yeah and it's like
wild like it's like bright pink was like a color of you know that they chose
for the all the boys to wear and I was just like dude I'm not having this you know that they chose for the all the boys to wear and I was just like, dude, I'm not having this, you know, like I don't know, I'm old school, dude, like that's that, you know what?
In Arizona, they forced prisoners to wear bright pink to humiliate them. So that's where I'm coming from. Is that true? Yeah, really? Yeah, there's this one prison ward, like, whatever he, you know, runs the prison and he makes everybody wear not only pink, but also pink underwear, I think.
Yeah, it was just that's a real thing.
Uh-huh.
No way.
Yeah, to masculate him.
Yeah.
So anyway, I mean, obviously I didn't care.
I'm not like, I'm not like, forcibly, my shit on everybody.
But I was just like, it was interesting for me to get immersed in that.
But then there was some Olympic athletes there, coachin' them. And it was pretty cool to
watch the strength and the feats that they could accomplish. So, I mean, there's a lot
of really cool stuff there for sure.
This is so interesting to me right now.
You didn't know that, huh?
No, I did not know this. Now, this, okay, this Arizona Doug's pulling pointed up right now. So this Arizona present. Now did he make just everybody do it or was
this was every punishment? No everybody. Oh yeah. So yeah everybody.
But pink socks. Bunny gun to wear, pink shirts. But all like the hardest dudes, you know,
look they all look ridiculous. And it's like it's sort of like brings them down a notch.
No, did you reading on it? Like was there any research so them down a notch. Yeah. No, did you read anything on it?
Like was there any research so far?
No research.
I think he's just, yeah, he's just trying to show everybody what time it is.
I'm going to make you wear that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a power move, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, be interesting to see if it like calm the fights down or whatever.
Like if they actually did some research on it to show like it actually.
Yeah, that'd be interesting to see if it worked.
I don't know. Everybody has to wear, you it actually... Yeah, that'd be interesting to see if it worked, but I don't know.
Everybody has to wear bikinis, you know, or whatever.
Yeah.
That might backfire me.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know this.
Yeah.
That's a lot.
Yeah, there might be a new problem.
Yeah, I just imagine you walking in there,
and everybody's like, oh, who brought the skater
or the mountain jello?
Who brought the meathead skater chello?
Yeah, what is going on over here?
Yeah, I know.
That's what I was trying to find my people.
And I just, you know, I didn't have luck.
Well, Jim, it's okay.
Jimness blown me away always.
I'll never forget.
I trained a, she must have been 14, a 14 year old Jimness
when I way back when I first became a trainer.
So I was like 18 or 19.
And this mom hired me to train her daughter,
and she was this little 14 year old girl,
and you know, typical gymnast, right?
She stood real tall posture kind of,
cause they're, you know, the pretty jacked, right?
They've especially been in the training since they were kids.
And I'll never forget this girl,
I'm like, what can you do a pull up?
And she's like, oh yeah, and she jumps up on the bar.
It wraps it up.
Like this, like, like I remember, the look on her face didn't change, and she had her legs pointed straight
out in front of her as if it were to like to show me.
You know, oh yeah, not only can I do pull up, but I can make them harder.
And they're really, yeah.
Incredible strength.
Now do both your boys enjoy it equally or does one like it more than the other?
I think, well, I think Ethan's actually taken to it a bit more.
Uh, just because Everett's so hard on himself and he's three years younger.
So it's like he's trying to do all the stuff his brother can do, um, and stay up, you know,
in his class and, you know, he kind of struggles and, and so he gets really pissed off, uh,
when he can't like do a certain move.
And then, um, the coach is trying to coach him and he's just like, no, I can't like do a certain move and then The coaches try and coach him and he's just like no
Buddy, what is he taking off?
I know it's so strange. It's weird. Yeah, I don't know where
By the way, can you can you step back a little bit? I want to see your shirt. I just want to say oh wow
Look at that. That's a weird looking clown
Oh, they put it they put a clown. No, they put a clown nose on the that. That's a weird-looking clown. Oh, yeah. They put a clown nose on the snake.
That's pretty weird.
I don't know.
Some tyrant clown.
I don't know.
I just looked like a cool shirt.
Yeah, I like that shirt.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
Dude, so this weekend was my grandfather's, I told you guys.
Oh, that's right.
Did you write the speech?
So I wrote the speech.
Obviously, I couldn't go, right?
Because I I you know
whatever bat suit disease but I I came here to the studio Doug recorded me and they played it at his
birthday. So my cousin calls me face times me and he says oh they're about to play your speech.
Oh, correct. So he's pointing at my grandfather and my grandfather's just bawling. It was, he was crying and then my grandmother was crying.
Oh man, it was really, really incredible to see.
And 90 years, right?
My grandfather was 90 years old.
And his story's so crazy when you think about it.
He came, he went from Sicily to Venice, Wala.
That's where he went first,
because he had to find a way to make money.
While his wife was in Sicily still,
he would send money back.
Then he went to America.
Then my grandmother got on a boat,
because they couldn't afford planes,
or airplane ticket.
She got on a boat with two kids.
My mom, which was a baby, and my uncle,
who was, I think, he must have been two or three.
So three-year-old and an infant, my grandma speaks no English,
whatsoever, gets on a boat and comes all the way over here
and basically survives and feeds the kids like hard cheese
and salami, because that's all they had.
Comes all the way over and my grandfather, you know,
I mean, he started a legacy.
He's got four kids, 13 grandkids,
13 great grandkids,
plus two more on the way,
all because he had the bravery to do that.
Did your parents meet here?
The same.
No, so my mom came here obviously when she was a baby,
and then when she turned 18
She went to Italy to Sicily to visit, you know, the family and that's where she met my dad actually what happened was
She went to a family party so she's 18 years old right so she's at this
Or 19 at this family party my dad
Could they have a they have cousins that are friends or something like that.
So they all wear at the same party.
So my dad's at the party and he sees my mom and he's like, oh my gosh, I love her.
So he tells his cousin, he doesn't even talk to her, tells his cousin to tell my mom
that he's interested in dating her.
My mom remembers him,
because she saw him at the party.
So she agreed.
So this is how they,
this is literally how they dated.
So they agreed they were engaged,
because this is how old school they are.
You ain't going out unless you're engaged.
You can't even go out once.
Oh wow.
Engaged, then they would go out on dates
and the way,
would you guys ever watch the Godfather
when Michael Corleona goes to Sicily meets Apalonia,
her name was, the girl, remember the Sicilian girl
that he meets, and they're going,
and they're going, anyway, it's part two,
it's Godfather, part two, great scene,
and they're going for a walk and it shows them walking
and then behind them is the whole family.
This was what my dad and my mom did.
They would go for walks.
This is how they dated.
And then behind them were grandparents, parents,
and uncles, kids.
No pressure.
Yeah.
Like a crowd of people would follow them.
And my mom tells a story.
She says that I asked my mom, what about your first kiss?
Like did you guys have a first kiss
before you actually got married?
She goes, oh yeah, she goes,
we were walking with the whole family following us.
We turned the corner so that we were around the corner
and your dad grabbed me and gave me a kiss.
And she said, and I got,
I got not going in.
I got, she says, I got so nervous I almost threw up,
I got nauseous because I thought my father would find out
and I would get in so much trouble.
But nobody ever found out.
So yeah, no, that's a true story.
But yeah, so my grandfather got, and then he calls after it was done, I got to talk to
him on FaceTime, and he's basically my his favorite grandchild.
So, I'm just kidding.
But he speaks to redefine it.
Yeah, no, but he was just, you don't know what you do for me, so I thought, and'm just kidding. But he's speech-illitifited. Yeah, no, but he was just, he's just, you don't know what you do for me,
he's so much thought, and he's, you know, he's crying.
And it's the thing about my grandfather,
I love more than anything, I even said this
in the speech that I did.
My grandfather's one of the most proud, tough,
like he's just, like, one of those just tough macho,
proud Sicilian men, but there is in a single family event, not one where my grandfather
within five minutes.
Does he cry?
If it's a, if it's celebrating anything, I don't care.
It could be literally my cousin drew a picture that everybody's looking at.
He'll be in the back and you'll see him.
He'll, he'll have his glasses.
I might, me and my cousin set you to, you still laugh at this, right?
Oh, here he goes.
Watch this.
And he'd be in the back.
He'd lift up his glasses.
He'd start cussing under his breath because he'd be pissed off that he's crying. And you, you hear him oh, here he goes. Watch this. And he'd be in the back. He'd lift up his glasses. He'd start cussing under his breath
because he pissed off that he's crying.
And you'd hear him go, God damn it,
send him a bit and he wipe his eyes.
I can't, and then he'd walk away.
Every single event, but I love that about him.
You should make a drinking game out of that.
You'd be great.
But it was very, I wish I was there.
The family was there, but.
Hey, speaking of cool proud moments,
I saw a T-Nation holler, dude.
Man, that's awesome.
Oh yeah, they put the resistance right there.
Yeah, finally, recognize that.
Well, I do wanna say this about T-Nation,
is that, and we've said this before in the show,
one of the better, I guess fitness and health sites
that you'll find, they typically science-based.
Oh yeah, the articles they've been putting out for a long time.
I mean, we've been... They're one of the better ones.
Yeah. For sure. Good information.
So to have them recommend the resistance training revolution
was a huge honor because I respect them.
I really do respect that. Here's the funny thing though.
Here's the funny thing though. I'm going to call you guys out over at T Nation.
So Adam sends a picture. Was it you that first?
Send a screenshot of the,
that they recommended the Resist to Training Revolution.
So I'm like, why don't I follow them on Instagram?
I couldn't look them up.
I looked them up, type them up, couldn't find them.
I'm like, what?
So then I went to the Mind Pump Instagram page,
looked them up, and there they were.
So I'm like, they blocked me.
So it must have blocked me a long time ago.
For some reason. I wonder why I must have got on a
Under one of their posts and promoted one of our programs or something like that who knows?
Yeah, I don't know why that would sometimes I'm sure it's like like what happened with that company eat to evolve right?
It's probably somebody who's yeah, you know
Doesn't know who you are and just sees one thing and then decides over in a block because of that
Yeah, so I messaged them from the mind pump page
and then they unblocked me.
You know who blocks everybody too?
Michael Herne.
Michael Herne is a big blocker.
He's a big blocker.
Yeah.
Oh, he blocked you?
Yeah, I've been blocked by him for a long time.
That's a long time.
I talked to him all the time.
What'd you do to him?
I don't even know.
I didn't do anything.
I don't think I ever said anything about.
Competing hottie, that's why.
Yeah, I gotta block this guy. Yeah, there's only ever said anything about competing hotty. That's why yeah, I got a block this guy
Yeah, there's only been a hand there's only been a handful of people that have ever ever blocked me
Michael her and his is one of them Bradley Martin was and then
Joe Donnelly Joe Donnelly. Yeah, those are oh no
No, he blocked all of us and what's his face that you always used to make fun of Joey Swole? Oh, oh
Yeah, that's only when the block me I like him first. I like my impersonation. I like his fun of Joey Swole. Oh, okay. Swole, yeah, that's the only one that blocked me. I like him for his admission.
He didn't like my impersonation, apparently.
I like his investment advice, Joey Swole.
That's the only one that blocked me.
That's the only one that blocked me.
I like him for his admission.
He didn't like my impersonations, apparently.
I like his investment advice, Joey Swole.
That's the only one that blocked me.
That's the only one that blocked me.
That's the only one that blocked me.
I like his investment advice, Joey Swole.
That's the only one that blocked me.
I like him for his admission.
He didn't like my impersonations, apparently.
I like his investment advice, Joey Swole.
Joey Swole. That's the only one that blocked me. That's the only one that blocked me. I like scamming, you know, people on the internet somewhere.
Happy selfless. Yeah, well, I remember he, I think he was a part of that one company,
Rye Supplements that that right afterwards after the big fall of shreds. I thought I saw it.
Yeah, he started him in Bill's area and I think became buddies, which is always interesting for me
to watch. You know, these, these influencer people start to connect with each other.
And he wrote a book recently, you know that?
Who?
Dan Bellesirion.
Did it really?
What's it, what is it about?
Probably his life.
Yeah.
Dan Bellen and girls and partying.
Like I'm tired of banging.
Yeah.
The title.
I don't know.
Do you guys think that?
Well, obviously we don't know the guys.
This is pure speculation.
But do you think he's actually a happy person?
How do you think he's not?
No, no.
No.
I think that, temporarily, maybe, you know,
but I think after you've kind of done it all,
it's, we talked about this off-air a while back, like,
you know, part of it.
Oh my god, you're right.
Look at the title of the book rich in thick with chicks
Right rich in thick for chicks wow
Hey listen ladies that's solid ladies if you meet a guy and you go over as apartment for the first time and this book is in his bookshelf
Yeah, fuck out of there
Quickly run. Yeah, so you don run. So you don't drink anything.
So you don't think he's happy, huh?
No.
He does seem like he's meditating, right, to try to distract himself with the chicks.
Or either that or he's just a brilliant social media person.
And it's just a great way.
I think there's a little bit of brilliance there with him too.
I don't want to, I don't want to not give him credit where credits do.
I think that he saw the opportunity in that space early on.
I mean, he was the first big, like, I don't know what you would play
boy on Instagram, you know.
So he's the closest to Hugh Hapner.
We've seen since.
I mean, so I'll give him that.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But I also think too that part of, for personally, personally,
for me, half of the enjoyment of, the enjoyment of, you know,
monetary things that he has a ton of, uh, is the pursuit of it and the struggle, the
struggle, the failure, like having to get back up five or six times before it finally
works for you. And so I think that when you have that kind of money success and fame, I just feel like you lose part of that.
You've already, it's so easy. It's so easy to obtain all those things.
It would be interesting to see what he needs to do in order to get a rise out of, you know,
how to make something challenging for him.
Also, the other thing too, I don't know again, I don't know the guy,
which is just based off of his social media, okay? But for me, all that success, monetary success,
would actually be very sad if I didn't have family
and like meaningful people in my life to share it with.
It would mean, it would mean so little.
If anything, it would be, I would feel more sad
than I have money and all the stuff
and I don't have those people to share it with, you know what I mean?
Yeah, so it's just over indulgence, you know?
It's like eating all of the junk food
and all of the candy all the time, you know?
Like it's not gonna take it.
Definitely, I think that was probably fun.
And I mean, I'm sure he went on a run there
where he probably did feel like it was amazing.
Reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode I've brought up many times.
Yeah, where the guy, what a great, by the way, it's a great episode.
I've talked about it before, but I gotta say it again.
In this particular Twilight Zone, great, great old series, if you like,
twists and great writing.
And there's this guy that dies where he gets shot in a shootout.
He's a bank robber.
Then he like, he's presented with this, looks like an angel, this guy in a white suit.
And he goes, hey, welcome. He goes, you can have anything you want.
And first he doesn't believe him.
And then he believes him because he's got a palace, he gets all the money and girls, he's
goes and gambles every time he throws out the dice, he wins.
And then like, it's like a three months later, they show the guy and he's like, you know,
obviously hasn't shaved, he's depressed, he rolls the dice, he wins.
He's like, this sucks, no matter what I do,
I get everything, there's no thrill, there's no risk,
there's no whatever.
Then he calls the angel back and he goes,
what, this is, I couldn't imagine,
I never would imagine that heaven was like this.
And the angel goes, who told you this was heaven?
And does this evil laugh?
As if to say, this is how, yeah, yeah.
It's really, really, really interesting.
No, that's a great one.
Anyway, good stuff. Hey, I read something very, that's a great one. Yeah, anyway.
Good stuff.
Hey, I read something very interesting about CBD.
I wanted to tell you guys.
Okay, so, uh, disclaimer, this is a study, so we'll post the link up, so everybody knows
I'm not trying to be crazy or whatever.
Here's the title of the study, Cannabidiol, that's the name for CBD.
So Cannabidiol inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication and promotes the host inmate immune response. What?
So CBD we've known for a long time to have antiviral
Properties and it seems to have antiviral properties for COVID as well. Oh, interesting. Yeah
So it's a really interesting study. They're actually doing further studies to see if this actually works
It's you know actually works in people. What is CBD not good for? I know it's true.
They've been able to connect it to everything. That's true. Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, but it's very interesting that now CBD with THC didn't show this although THC's anti-inflammatory. it was just the CBD. Now here's the thing, I had read this a while ago,
so back when I was sick, I was also taking the net
on a regular basis.
I didn't tell anybody,
because I don't want to promote any false, whatever,
but I was taking on a regular basis,
that was kind of part of the whole.
I didn't, I wish I didn't.
Part of the whole thing.
But interesting, right?
Isn't it interesting?
It's the adaptogenic type of herbs and things that are now kind of getting a lot more
publicity.
It's like, there's just so much benefit to them.
And you see that, it too, and all the different types of medicinal mushrooms and CBD.
It's like if you keep taking them sort of from the regular,
it helps to kind of, you know, even everything out.
It seems.
Speaking of which, I saw that documentary,
fantastic fungi.
Oh, you did, yeah.
What you think?
Wow.
I started watching it, too.
Wow.
Is that...
Isn't it a trip?
Yeah.
Super good.
I was just at the part where they talk about how they they communicate
Oh underneath like all the to all the trees and everything like that. Well, I mean, it's very
interesting because there's potential applications for creating fungi that eat pollution, that
eat oil that we spill in the ocean. Yeah. There's that guy that modified a fungi to become a pesticide.
So instead of spraying chemicals to get rid of pests, this fungi that really didn't have
any negative effects on humans, but it'll kill termites and stuff like that.
And then they got into the psychedelic mushrooms and the research behind that.
That was mind-blowing.
I haven't got to that part yet.
That really blew-blowing. I haven't got to that part yet. That really blew me away.
They actually showed two people who were terminal.
So cancer, so there's women who had terminal cancer
and then a man who had terminal prostate cancer.
And they signed up for this study.
So one of the hallmarks of having a terminal disease
is the severe anxiety and fear that, you know,
surround it, right?
Because you have to face your own mortality.
Your doctors are like, you're not gonna make it.
So all of a sudden you're like, oh my God.
And so people just get tremendous fear, anxiety,
and depression.
And so what they did with, what they did with the study
is they did some therapy sessions leading up to the session.
Then they gave them the mushrooms,
they put blindfold on them, headphones,
and then the therapist was there,
very safe environment, talking the person through
what they were going through.
And one of the guys showed this one man,
and he's after one session,
after he was done, and this guy had severe anxiety.
He was treated, he couldn't control it.
After one session, he says, I'm at peace now.
I brought him so much quality of life.
He goes, I'm not afraid of dying.
He's like, I'm at peace.
And you can see it in his face.
Wow.
Really?
And they filmed his session and he's like, crying
and you can tell he's processing.
Really crazy.
I was telling Jessica, as we're watching it,
I don't think people realize the potential revolution
this could have for mental health.
I feel like the news is slowed down around that.
There was like just like a year or two ago, I feel like it was ramping up like crazy.
I felt like every other podcast episode you were sharing new study comes out or new state
gets on board decriminalizes like I haven't heard, I haven't heard much.
There's still a lot of studies going on and I don't know this, but in the 60s,
in 50s and 60s before they scheduled magic mushrooms
and LSD and all of the psychedelics,
so illegal that you can't study them.
Right before that happened,
there was research was exploding, right?
So psychiatrists and scientists were studying it like crazy.
You know one of the first things they found with psychedelic research, I think it was
in the 60s, they found it to be effective at curing people of get this alcoholism.
So alcoholics, people who were struggling with alcoholism.
I've heard about that for smoking.
I've heard it's cured people from being addicted to cigarettes.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not familiar with those, but these were old studies of alcoholism. I've heard about that for smoking. I've heard it's cured people from being addicted to cigarettes. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm not familiar with those, but these were old studies of alcoholism.
That's one of the hardest things to kick.
And apparently these people did these sessions and many of them quit alcohol.
Boom right there on the spot.
It seems like it's like the ultimate introspective therapy.
It's like you sort of put yourself, you assess everything that you know, all the
habits, all the things that you do. Like even Paul Stamis' story was pretty incredible
that he grew up stuttering. Yeah. Like, like, couldn't stop stuttering. And this whole family,
you know, where all these intellects and went to all these Ivy League schools and all
this. And he just had this horrific, like, stuttering problem and then have you know a heavy
dose of psilocybin and came to terms with it and it was just like I'm just not going to do this
anymore and then never stuttered again. I know. Now isn't it pretty crazy. Isn't the science around it
that it like it interrupts these pathways is that what it is like the things like the stuttering
or the addictive it's like part of that is you've got this same pathway that you've...
This pattern in your brain.
Yeah, that is just always firing.
And then what it supposedly like opens up...
So there's a couple of theories.
They do show that, right?
They do show that it creates new neural pathways or patterns in the brain.
And it does so pretty effectively, which is good, right?
That shows that whatever pattern or thought process you have, that you just loop,
for example, if you have like PTSD, for example, you have a really, really terrible event
that happens. What happens is it gets solidified in the reactive part of the brain,
and then let's say every time you hear a helicopter go off, it reminds you of being in Vietnam
or whatever in war.
And you can't interrupt it because it happens in the part of the brain that reacts faster than the part of the brain that's logical.
So before you even realize that you're having this physical reaction, it's too late, you're already in the middle of it.
And now it's like, ah, how do I stop it?
So the studies show that it does change these patterns so it can interrupt that. But then there's this other theory, and it's
probably both in my opinion. The other theory is that in order to make profound changes in your life,
you either a have to do it very slowly. We talk about this, right? Developing discipline,
one little step at a time. It takes a long time. it's a lot of hard work, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The other way is by having an epiphany where you have like this big spiritual, like,
awakening event, which I mean, how do you recreate that, right?
So what these substances are doing for people, because literally one, I think it was one
third of all the people in these studies that we've seen so far, if I'm not mistaken,
one third of one fourth,
something like that, said that it was the most profound
experience of their entire lives.
So it's like, imagine having a piphony like that.
It's so profound.
And that might be enough to get you to say,
I'm gonna quit, you know, doing drugs,
or I'm gonna quit being an asshole or whatever.
So, I don't know, man.
Really, really, Mark.
Highly recommend me.
Yeah.
Speaking of movies, did you guys watch Suicide Squad?
The new one?
Anybody?
I did, I watched it.
Yeah, so I'm laughing.
I'm laughing because this is what I want us to do.
I would like, and I think, I think Doug's an agreeance with me too,
did you try and watch Suicide Kings too?
Hey, yeah, I got about 20 minutes in you and I had to kind of turn it on
So here's I also I'll try it out so I don't like it just
I don't know dude. I also watched his stand-up comedian. I didn't think it was funny at all either
I want what I want to try I want to try with you is I want you to give me the next bad movie the next movie you don't like
I want you to give me the next bad movie the next movie you don't like
I want to try that I just want to try it out. I just want to see you know rotten tomatoes gave it 91
First recommendations that run tomatoes is really pretty pretty. No, it is normally if especially if they both I was like 88 or 91. It's got a really high rating. Yeah, normally those are pretty pretty accurate
I don't know maybe because I was in a crappy mood
and I watched it or maybe because I already have this idea
when you recommend it's probably gonna be bad,
but normally that would be the opposite.
I go into these with low expectations.
If you recommended, I'm like, probably not gonna be good.
Did you watch the whole thing?
Most of it.
I got, I got, I got, really?
And you didn't think it was funny, you didn't think it was creative?
I mean, one, I didn't think it was that much different
than the first one as far as the creative part.
I mean, same type of concept, right?
But the first one sucked.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I just, I thought they were just okay.
You know, I didn't think it was good.
I mean, DC just kind of sucks compared to Marvel
in my opinion.
DC is just not in depth to Marvel.
You know what, though, it depends, dude.
The Batman, there's some Batman, you know, installments that have been phenomenal. No, it's in fact. I would say of all the superhero
Films the best ones were some of the Batman's of all of them. Yeah, so I was always been solid
But I mean they've gone real cheesy and hoki too
So I like yeah, it was it Nolan is like the one with Christian bail like I like to that version because it was darker
Yeah, and the Joker what about the recent Joker that was incredible. Yeah, I actually never finished that
Why because it was so heavy. Oh disturbing. Yeah, but I mean good though, right?
So I'm not saying I didn't want not finishing because I thought it was bad. It was just a it was heavy and I was it was well done
Yeah, that was a well done movie. Yeah, I mean any movie where I think it was that I had to turn not finishing because I thought it was bad. It was just heavy. It was well done. Yeah, that was a well done movie.
Yeah, I mean, any movie where I think it was that,
I had to turn it off because it was,
it was depressing.
Yeah.
I was like, I mean, it really made you feel like.
Yeah, no, it invoked that emotion.
That much emotion to me.
You know, it's well written and well done then.
Well, so this, because this suicide squad essentially,
and I like it when producers do this with superhero films.
They either, either you take it very seriously,
which is tough.
If you take it very serious,
it's hard to make a superhero film good
when you take it super serious.
I think Batman has the best story and it's dark
and it's somewhat kind of relatable
because he doesn't have superpowers.
But you know why?
Because he has the best villains.
Yes.
You can write so much better stories
when you have all kinds of different awesome villains
that are on the top.
Is that what it is?
You think that's more about the villains of this?
I think all the villains in all superhero,
like all comic books, right?
Of all the villains, I think the Joker is the best.
And the, because he's really evil.
He's really dark.
Like if you read, if you see the comics,
he is fucked up evil, like very, very twisted and whatever.
So I think I agree with you.
He's the epitome of chaos.
Yeah.
So I think they nailed it a few times when they had him
just out to destroy everything, burn the world.
Yeah.
Now the other thing that the other side is I like it when they make superhero movies tongue and cheek
and they poke fun at themselves,
which is what this one did.
Who did that the best see?
What was the one with Ryan Reynolds?
Like, can they get it?
Oh, Deadpool.
Yes.
Yeah, that was fantastic.
I love Deadpool.
Deadpool was fantastic.
And I think that is-
Guardians, which was-
That was also good.
Yeah. Is that DC? No, that was also good. Yeah, was that DC?
No, that's Marvel.
Okay, yeah.
Most of those are Marvel.
Yeah, so the tongue and cheek stuff,
I, you know, enjoy.
But there you go, they're,
Marvel did, did that and I just think they do it way better
than DC obviously.
Those, because those two I thought,
those were hilarious.
Those are really, really good.
Oh, you know what I wanted to ask you?
You don't remember how we had that discussion on dating apps?
And I said, oh, I wonder if it's giving people
too many options.
Oh, yeah, we talked about that.
Yeah, did you get, I got some DMs on that.
Oh, I didn't know.
So I had, I actually had people tell me that they,
they agreed that they, that it was too many options.
I had guys message me and saying, no, what you said,
I tend to fall into it where I don't put too many, I don't like put too much focus
on one person, because I know I could just meet up
with someone else.
So I actually had some people say that they agreed
with that.
The question is, I don't know if that's a bad thing, is it?
That's a good question.
Right, I mean, is that necessarily a bad thing
that you don't get all hung up on one
because you know there's plenty more options out there?
Well, if it's always about searching for the new one than it could be, right, because you could miss out on the one that you know there's plenty more options out there. Well, if it's always about searching for the new one
then it could be, right?
Because you could miss out on the one that you lost.
I think all in all, I think that it's improved
people's ability to find each other than anything else.
I would agree with that.
Yeah, I mean.
I also had somebody message me and say that they speculate
that there's a lot of married people who go on dating apps
when they're kind of unhappy to see what else is out there.
Just to see like who's gonna bite.
Yeah. Check their options for the rest.
I still got it.
Let me see.
This isn't much of an upgrade, I'm not gonna leave.
Dude, I read a story.
Yeah.
So, Trip off this, I read a story of a husband or wife
that did that and matched each other.
So, the guy went.
That's the ultimate.
Yeah, you accidentally.
Yeah, he went on the app.
Oh wow.
The wife did too, then they matched.
How do you get your mad, can you?
I don't know.
So you both get mad and you're like, well, I guess, you know,
it's destiny.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, either that's going to be like an amazing, like,
makeup sex realization.
Now, do you guys have any, do you guys have any family or friends right now that are close to you that that's how they met?
Um, I'm trying to think how my cousins who just got married.
My, my mom and her husband did that's how they met.
Oh, my brother. I think that's how my brother met his wife.
I think he met her on a dating app if I'm not mistaken.
And she's lovely, wonderful, young lady.
They're the ones that just had a baby.
So yeah, I definitely think it's got to help. if I'm not mistaken. And she's lovely, wonderful, young lady. They're the ones that just had a baby. So.
Yeah, I definitely think it's got to help.
I mean, for you to be able to screen a lot,
I mean, because sometimes if you dated somebody
and found out either weeks or months later
that you were dating them,
that there's just like one of those things,
it's like, oh my God, this will never get past this.
Right?
There's another show on Netflix right now.
I got kind of sucked into that was all about arranged marriages,
you know, in the Indian culture.
And it's just interesting to see,
so they basically seek out somebody to kind of match them
with somebody else.
And they limit the options down very much to where it's like you get almost like one interaction
And then after that it's like you either yes, I'm gonna keep her soon this person or no and
And then it like quickly leads to marriage like really fast and it's fascinating to see like
You know how the fam all the family gets it all it's kind of like what you're talking about sell earlier
You know the old school kind of approach.
You know, it's weird is that those,
that the statistics on the,
and I'm sure there's a million reasons why.
Isn't the success rate really high on that?
Very high.
Well, success.
They're very high actually.
Success based on staying together.
Yeah, and I think it's more expectations.
I remember I read an article on this that
for a long time marriage was,
it was like, okay, we're going to agree to
be married, we're going to agree to raise a family.
And you're, this, you aren't supposed to complete me and make me feel like, you know, like
I'm, I'm whole now, right?
It's just, we're just married and this is what we do and we work it out, whatever.
And then that change to, you have to marry someone you're totally in love with,
and it has to be like that all the time,
and they have to totally complete you.
It's all based on the feeling the whole time.
Yeah, and then the article said
that that's one of the reasons why
divorce rates got so high is because
all of a sudden people were like,
you don't complete me, you don't make me whole,
you don't make me happy.
You know, which I, I could see some truth in that.
No, I mean, I can see that.
Well, I mean, that's not true though.
I mean, that's not what makes a successful measure.
A good partner and a good teammate, I think that's why.
I think they've gotten away from that
where if your parents are matching you up,
I imagine that's how they were doing it.
I mean, you're looking for compatibility
with other families and things like that,
things that you guys align with, which makes sense.
But I think we've romanticized it over years
with your romantic movies and
stuff like that that's supposed to be this love at first sight and sweep you off your. And you're
always going to feel that way. You're always in the right way. All expectation based. And then
it always disappoints. Absolutely. Speaking of expectations, I was I'm very excited because the pumpkin spice gold juice ice you know it's funny. I was gonna
Get out your arms everybody. No, I was isn't it early for that? Isn't it feel early? Are we starting?
It's a fall thing. It's like
It's breezy right now every year. It starts to get pushed back further and further
Why not make it a permanent flavor. It's so good. That's what I think. There's got to be a strategy to that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's got to be a strategy of taking it away
and then bringing it back.
I can't wait, dude.
And I think it's kind of novel too, you know,
because if you had that all the time, I don't think, you know,
get hold, I think.
I love it.
It used to be like a fall heading into winter type of thing
that those are the flavors of fall.
And now, I mean, we're, we're right now. It's like we're in the flavors of fall. And now, I mean, where are we at right now?
It's like we're in the middle of summer.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, we're not even out of summer yet.
I crack up because it's like when you start seeing
like all the stores when they start selling stuff
way early for the holidays, like I think we've already,
we've already got Halloween stuff.
It's your Christmas decorations.
Yeah, like, dude, it's like July.
I love it, man, with the almond milk, warm.
No, that's the best. No, no, that's one of my favorite. I'm teasing right now that it's, I just think it's funny because I've seen it, man. With the almond milk, warm. No, that's the best.
No, no, that's one of my favorites.
I'm teasing right now that it's,
I just think it's funny,
because I've seen it,
I start to see Starbucks and all these guys
starting it earlier and earlier every year,
but it is one of the best flavors.
Oh, I want to tell you Justin,
because I know you're into like Disney,
like facts and stuff and weird stuff
about Disneyland and Disney World.
Did you know that they have a
protocol for people who sprinkle cremated remains of loved ones at the park? Huh? They have a protocol.
Do they do it over like the cemetery or what? No, I think you do it on the ride. You do it in the
park and they have a whole they have a whole protocol.
So if you contact Disney and you're like,
listen, my mom was a huge Disney fan and her dream,
her last wish was to spread her remains at Disneyland.
I never thought about how popular that probably is.
Yeah, that's actually probably really popular.
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it?
There's a name for it.
I gotta look it up because I actually wrote it down,
but you actually go there and they have this thing
that they, like a ceremony and everything, or what?
Yeah, let me see.
Let me see what they call.
I wanna be packed into one of those cannons
in Pirate Security and shut out
and blast me out of her bike.
Here it is.
Here it is.
About once a month, there's a guest can scatter
the remains of a loved one somewhere in the park.
And the park apparently has like a special thing for it.
And it says no code is kept more under wraps
at Walt Disney World in Disneyland than the call
for a hepa cleanup, HEPA cleanup, H-E-P-A cleanup.
It means that once again, a park guest
has scattered the cremated ashes of a loved one
somewhere in the park,
and an ultra-fined vacuum cleaner is needed to suck them up.
What?
So they go and clean it up afterwards.
So I don't get it.
Okay, so let's say,
so I wanted to spread someone's ashes in my family.
Disney, do I call them or I just do it
And they find out I don't understand what's the I think you're supposed to tell them
But that's a good point. I wonder how many people do it and don't say yeah, how many people do it anyway?
Just put it in their thermos. Yeah, imagine that like you're spring and then what do you think are like that's like top five
Top five places that people want to be cremated and sprinkled over.
Where do you think?
Ocean's got to be up there.
Gotta be there.
Grand Canyon I think would be one.
Oh, you think so?
That's a big, yeah, I'd be a cool place.
I definitely think ocean's got to be like
one of the top for sure, right?
Yeah, ocean.
I bet Disney's up there.
Or lakes.
I wouldn't even have thought that
until you brought it up, but I'm like,
dude, I know so many people that are like,
super Disney fans.
If I die, if I die and get cremated, what I'm gonna put this on there, what I want you
guys to do is I want you to take my remains and sprinkle a little bit in your post workout
shake.
And just a little bit, just put a little sprinkle so I can become a little bit.
Cheers to the homey.
So I can help heal, grow your muscles.
Now if you guys were all, if we were all cremated,
where would you want to be sprinkled?
Obviously not in pre-workout post-workout.
Not pre-workout post-workout.
I want to be in an Elon Musk rocket to Mars.
Yeah.
Like, like, take me all the way.
That's not realistic.
Take me all the time.
That's not realistic.
You have a place, I feel like you would be like,
take me up to the Redwood tree somewhere,
some mountain-ass place that you love going to.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know.
I never really thought that.
You're the closest to this.
So what would you think?
How do you know?
That might not be true.
Actually, based off of the way things are going,
it is not true.
You know over the last one.
You are the last one standing, bro.
Honestly, it's viruses in the face.
I've given it a very little thought as far as that is concerned, because quite frankly,
I don't think I'd care, you know, honestly.
Yeah.
I mean, now, do you guys have, do you guys know if you're going to be cremated or not?
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
I don't think I'll be cremated.
Oh, you're like, no.
I don't actually, okay, I don't care, but I actually had this conversation with my parents
once.
We were like talking. Yeah. And I said, God, I said, why don't care, but I actually had this conversation with my parents once. We were like talking.
Yeah.
And I said, God, I said, why don't people just get cremated like who cares?
And my mom literally lost her mind.
Oh, wow.
Lost her mind.
Don't you ever, oh, damn, I would never do that.
So I'm like, okay, mom, sorry.
So.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it was a big deal for her.
Yeah, I think I'd be cremated.
You want to be cremated?
Yeah, really?
Yeah, really?
Yeah, really? Yeah, really cheaper easier. Is it cheaper? Yeah, it is. Oh, yeah
Much cheaper. There's a yeah, oh, you need a little urn. You can get coffee can and do it like
See that be a big libousky that'd be the moves for me
We're gonna coffee. Hey, we put him in the chair over here. We're podcasting. Hey, Justin. What do you do? He has nothing to say
I'm sure there's a there's I forgot what culture, but there's a culture that
for sure. For sure.
I forgot what culture, but there's a culture that might be in New Zealand where if you
die, they throw you off into the ocean for sharks.
So to eat, and that's part of their, their, because.
You know what the ultimate would be for me is like an old Viking where you put the body
on one of those rafts and then you set it on fire.
Oh, with a bow.
Yeah, let me say, like Robin Hood. Where you put the body on one of those rasts and then you set it on fire with a bow
He said like Robin Hood did you a speaking to Elon did you see that?
He said that he'll probably put someone on the moon by
2024 I think over the next three years. Did you see that no? I didn't see yeah, so
That's gonna put like a hotel up there like what's the plans? No by 2024
By 2024 he says that he'll probably land humans on the moon before on 2024.
Wow. I know. It's crazy. I know.
Well, what will he do? Is it going to be land and then come
right back? Are they going to build something out there? Like,
no, you just land and come back, dude. Yeah. Dude, the anti
gravity club. Yeah, what? what yeah everybody's going up there to
get some anti-gravity action how many people how many people the appeal right
has there only been two people in the moon how many people have been on the
moon that's a you question I have no I don't know how many people I know is
it like yeah I have no idea yeah it's like four four to six people I guess I
have no idea I'm pretty sure the US is the only country
that's been on the moon, right?
According to this,
I think Russians have been up there after.
They have?
So 12?
So what countries, Doug, have been on the moon?
I've actually put a human being on the moon.
Let me see.
You mean after we won that race,
like people didn't keep going through with it
to try and get there?
Of course not.
It was a coincidence, that cool anymore.
No, you know, okay, I've No, you know, it's all Americans.
Boom.
Yeah, all Americans.
Wow.
There you go.
So, okay, so here's a deal.
Let's talk in Jessica.
This is, because we, what were we watching?
We're watching something and that came up.
She's like, why doesn't anybody care
about going to the moon anymore?
I'm like, okay, this was during the Cold War
and it was a wonderful way for us to flex,
to show the Soviets that we can if we can
land somebody on the moon we can send a rocket in your backyard and set off a look and that's what
it was all about once we did it was over nobody cared anymore. And now they have a supersonic nuclear
weapon with these flex cool. Yeah. That's funny to me that with that so much energy effort, money,
resources and time went into getting there.
And then once it happened, no one's given a shit after that.
No, there's because there's no financial gain from it.
The only gain was militarily, to show your power, also source of national pride.
You got to remember at that time, kids literally in school were drilled on a nuclear attack.
So in school, if you're a kid,
they literally would do drills where kids had to,
oh, you know, this is what we do.
Get them to the desk, cover your neck, Doug remembers.
I'm sure.
I'm serious.
I never did one.
You're lying.
I never did one.
Really?
So this was a big thing that a lot of kids in schools did.
So it was people were terrified.
So it's like, what a great way to bring out national pride.
And I'll show the Soviets that we have the technology,
we have the means.
No, I guess there is stereo oversputnik
when they saw the satellite coming over
and everybody freaked out.
Well, yeah, the Russians had a satellite that floated above us.
I mean, I get it, but the thing that I think is crazy
is just that much energy and effort
and then to just shut it all down because we won the race.
And it's all over.
I know.
You would think that you would still want to go do it just to prove that you can do it.
There's no oil on the moon.
That's why.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, wasn't there talk about like some of the soil from the moon being used for some
kind of converted energy?
No, jeez, man.
No idea.
I had heard about that, but I think there's more plausibility in like a meteor
like I heard that there's you know some crazy valuable minerals on some of the meteor meteors that they're trying to buy.
Yeah, wasn't there a meteor that was made of like pure diamond or something like that? Yeah, yeah exactly planets
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First question is from Caitlin T. Armstrong.
What is a proper full range of motion for a squat?
Is it bad to lock out your knees?
Oh yeah, okay.
So the answer I'm gonna give is actually
the answer for proper range of motion
for any exercise.
So the proper range of motion is the fullest range of motion
that you have complete control strength and stability
to support, okay?
So if that means that the most you can do is a half squat
because anything outside of a half squat,
you lose stability, you lose stability, you lose strength,
you lose balance, then that means that you have to train
in that half squat.
And then your goal is to improve
that functional range of motion, improve your ability
to go deeper while maintaining stability and control.
This is true for all exercises.
Now second part about locking out your knees,
there's nothing wrong with straightening your legs up
at the top of a squat.
Now, here's the problem.
If you lock your knees and relax your muscle
so that the joints are supporting the weight,
that's the problem.
So it's like if I lock my elbows out,
I'm gonna end of a push up,
and then I relax my body and allow my joint
being locked out to support me.
Well, that's the issue.
But if I straighten my arms out or straighten my legs out
and then stay tight with my muscles,
nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
Now, the only, yeah, any of the joints that you're gonna lock out
and not support your muscles is gonna be an issue.
I mean, this is why, like, if you're standing up in a wedding
and they tell you not to lock your knees, you might pass out. Like, there's all kinds of issues. You're going to run into that. But if you can support yourself with
muscles, you know, in the lockout, obviously that's something to aspire to achieve.
Now, the only thing I don't like about that answer, even though it's the right one, is that
somebody will hear strength, stability, and control and think that because they can do it even if their form breaks down
That they still are okay. Yeah, no other words
So I you'll see someone they'll do a squat and they can get asked to grass
but they also
Round their shoulders their forward the forward head their chest falls way over their knees, the bar path
now travels in front of the knees, the heels might raise up a little bit, but they technically
can do it, they can get down there. And so I think that you have to elaborate a little bit on what
strength and stability and control really means. It means you should be able to perform that
movement with proper form all the way through.
Without any breakdown, because even though you may be able to get deeper in the squat, if there's any breakdown in your form,
during that time, you've got to stop at that point.
And so I think that's where people kind of mess up is they think they see somebody go ask to grass and go
I can get down there, but they also heels are raising and like I said forward shoulder head and the bar path is now traveling
In front of the knees and so that's where I think this gets a little nuanced is you may think that you're you're able to go that deep
But for some people they can't do that that with proper form. No, you can have a full range of motion without good control and stability.
And that's when the problem, here's the deal.
There are no dangerous exercises per se.
There's only dangerous technique form, lack of control, lack of stability.
So it could be a barbell curl, one of the most basic exercises that exists.
If you lack the control and stability for some reason in your elbow,
then a barbell curl now becomes dangerous.
Then we can pick an exercise that's extremely technical and overhead squat, right?
So this is where you have like a, doing a snatch, you have a barbell up above your head, arms locked out,
and you do a full squat. Very technical requires excellent control stability and mobility.
If you have all those prerequisites, if you have perfect form, perfect control, very safe
exercise.
Now, some exercise require more prerequisites than others, right?
Some are much more technical.
A squat is a pretty technical exercise.
But if you can do a full range of motion squat
and you're doing it perfect,
and you've got the control, everything's tight,
you own, essentially you own every part of the movement,
then it's perfectly safe,
and it's better to train with the full range of motion.
There's just more benefits that you derive from it.
Do you think it's become a really technical exercise
because it's actually a fundamental movement
that most of us have lost?
Oh yeah.
The guys at Squat University did a really good post
like a couple of weeks ago and I remember reading
and going like I totally agree with this.
And that way, and they were talking about just
getting back to a place where that is a normal movement.
Instead of stop looking at it like this great
strength building exercise that people should do to get bit massive legs and stuff that is a normal movement. Instead of stop looking at it like this great strength
building exercise that people should do to get
bit massive legs and stuff.
And it's just, we should all have this ability to be able
to sit down in that squatted position.
And the truth is, we've lost that ability.
And because we've lost that ability,
it now makes that exercise such a technical,
difficult movement because there's so many problems
that people have with getting down in that position.
Oh, totally. I mean, look at another movement pattern that humans literally evolved to do.
There's very few things that humans do physically better than other animals. One of them is run.
Okay, we actually, in the animal kingdom, are some of the best distance travelers that you'll find anywhere.
You can actually out trek most animals for distance.
And this is because of the way we evolve.
We've got these big knees, these huge glutes.
We read, use very little energy when we run.
The problem is we forget how to run, so we lose the skill.
So then we decide I'm gonna lace up my shoes
and go running, and people, it's the number one thing
that injures people is running
But if you ran since you were could walk and you did so barefoot and you always ran you never stopped
It would be a very safe, you know great movement for us. We evolved to do it
But we just stopped so far squatting is concerned think about it this way. When do you squat ever anywhere?
I mean you might squat down on the toilet, but even that doesn't look like a squat. People tend to plop down.
We don't ever squat, so we just totally lose that movement.
Well, this is a bit of an aside, but I was thinking about this, and I know strong by science
or by science by strong, Max Schmarzo, I forget his handle. But he was talking about how we get back into
these wreck league sports. And after years of not training specifically in an athletic
direction, and then jump into it. Meanwhile, let's say you are working out, let's say you
are in the gym constantly and lifting weights, but you're sticking in the hypertrophy style training.
Now you have to explosively move, you have to add all the rotation, and they wonder why
all of a sudden these injuries occur in these joint pain and aches and all that.
But it's really like what you maintain and what you train your body for in terms of
what you're going to be able to keep up and have a high performance with.
Yeah. Next question is from Nina Morgan. Can you provide recommendations to improve the
front rack position? Oh, the front rack position. You know, do you guys just kind of side,
let's go on the side here real quick, do you guys think that this is for most people essential?
Do you think this would be beneficial for most people?
Do you think it's not really that beneficial
unless you, this is like something you want to train?
I think to get to a place where you can do the front rack
is very essential.
I think it's talking about what the last question,
just it's a fundamental position
you should be able to get your shoulders in
and most people can't because they lack the risk mobility
and the shoulder mobility in order to get there.
And so I think from that point of view,
I think it's very fundamental
and it's something that a lot of people struggle to do.
That being said, I don't think that you force it.
I think you work towards getting
to a place where you can do that. And I think it's in, I think just for good shoulder and
wrist health, I think you should be able to do that.
Yeah, I'd say the biggest thing that tends to hold people back is the wrist mobility,
right? Is the wrist in finger mobility?
Wrist in shoulders, yeah.
Yeah, and there's a lot of stretches and movements you could do with your hands to work
on this.
If you don't have this mobility, take your time.
This is something I have issues with.
I don't even train it, to be honest with you, because I don't really want to spend the
time working on it.
But if I did, I would imagine it would probably take me at least six months of concentrated,
you know, focused effort to be able to get in that position.
Because if I did it now, there's no way
I would totally hurt my wrist.
I think it's sort of a keystone exercise
in terms of unlocking a lot more exercises
you can include in your programming,
especially if you're getting into any kind of
Olympic lifting or any
types of more functional type of exercises as well, but risk health in general is something
that I think a lot of people neglect and it comes back to vitamin-yass.
And so to maintain that, I do find a lot of value in that. And there's ways to do it where it's gradual.
So if you are able to access kettlebells and start there and
just kind of include these front rack kind of carrying exercises and do that instead of like
going with farmer carries, you can quickly sort of adapt to that position, you know, the more
that you expose yourself to it. But obviously, it has to be gradual and has to be in a position where your wrist isn't
super aggravated.
But there's lots of grades of being able to get to the position where you could do a
solid front rack, front squat with a barbell, and that is something that you can aspire
and achieve.
I also think it's one of those things that's, we're getting, it's getting worse.
I just think with phones and computers,
it's, we're in that, we're in this time
where, you know, God fast forward 10, 20 years from now
and it may be like what we are just talking about
this squat now, now everybody can't even get their wrist
and their shoulders in that position anymore.
And so, you know, another one of those areas of,
you know, do we just accept that we can't do it and their shoulders in that position anymore. And so, another one of those areas of,
do we just accept that we can't do it
and find a crutch and use straps to hold it there
or do the, cross your arms over and just accept
that, oh, I don't have the shoulder and wrist mobility
or is this a thing that we recognize?
Oh, this is something that I wanna be able to do
as I get older because of what problems may occur
if I don't. And so working towards that I think is important. I just, I mean, I'm not great at it,
but it was an area though for, you know, my first half of lifting, I definitely used to cross my arms
because I didn't have the good shoulder and wrist mobility to do it. But over time, I've gotten to a
place where I can hold the front rack position fairly well, but it takes constant work.
Now, what's cool though about, and why I like exercises like this, and then the pursuit
of getting good at it, like the squat, if you can, once you get there, so long as you just
keep it in the routine, it'll help promote that good wrist and shoulder mobility.
You know, so if you get good at just like the deep squat, like, I had to do a lot of work
on my ankles and my hips
to get to a deep squat.
Now that I did all that work, so long as I keep those deep squats,
it keeps good hip health and good ankle health for me.
Same thing goes for your wrists and your,
that's why this front rack position I think is so great is,
it might take a little bit of work to get to a place
where you can do this well, but once you can do it,
so long as you just maintain that exercise in your routine, you should have pretty good wrist
and shoulder mobility. Yeah, so here's something you can do to help your, very basic, very easy.
You can literally get a barbell, get up into the position to where you're in that front rack position,
and then just hold that for time. But don't relax the wrists in the sense that
it's just sitting on the wrist and bending it back.
When you're in that position, activate your wrist.
Actually pull them back and activate the front of the forearms
so you're activating the muscles while you're sitting
in that position.
And then hold it for like 15, 20, 30 seconds
and practice this on a daily basis.
This is just one way to kind of get more comfortable
with that position.
Yeah, do that.
And also if you can get like some small gym towels
and wrapping around, you know, the barbell
and sort of gradually work your way down.
Yeah.
It's a to grip it.
So you have a neutral grip to start.
If the wrists are really having a challenge
with being able to flex like that,
that's a good way to kind of gradually bring them closer
to the bar and then really challenge yourself
to get your fingers to touch the bar
and then maintain that position
and just hold it isometrically.
Next question is from Fertado, no Insta.
How much muscle imbalance is normal?
Well, if you mean what is common, a lot,
a lot of muscle imbalance is common.
If you mean what is, I guess, ideal,
you know, this is different from person to person,
I would say you wanna be,
you wanna have a good quality of life
and you don't wanna have muscle imbalances
that cause
any dysfunction or pain
So you want to be able to move in your daily life do
normal things play with your kids do your workouts and not have any
joint pain or problems one of the easiest ways by the way to
Help and this isn't this isn't the answer for everything.
It's just a very general way to kind of help with muscle and balances, is to do a lot of unilateral
work, is to just do stuff one arm at a time, one leg at a time. Although it's not the answer,
like I said to everything, it does help a lot because when you, it really does illuminate
quite a bit. Like you do a one arm chest press and you may notice like, oh my gosh, I don't
realize my left shoulder raises up so much when I do that or a one arm row or, you know,
like one leg, it's step up or toe touch or lateral exercises with one leg at a time.
That does illuminate quite a bit.
And we've said this before in the podcast,
real good rule of thumb is the side that is weaker
and less stable, start with that side
and then have that side dictate what you do
with the other side so that you're not
training your good side more than your weaker side
and allow it to catch up.
I think it's really common,
and I don't think anybody is perfectly symmetrical.
So in that sense, that's normal, I guess.
I think a good goal is to try and minimize
the discrepancy from left to right as much as possible.
So, to Salis Point about doing the utilateral work,
I think that's a great way
to measure this and pay attention to it.
But that's kind of what I'm always looking at is I know that I'm never going to be perfectly
symmetrical.
I know I'm always going to have a more dominant side than the other side, but I want to
minimize the discrepancy from left to right as much as I possibly can.
So everything from mobility and strength and control.
So I want to be able to, what I can do on my left side,
I want to be able to do on my right side as close to equal as I can.
And I think a good goal is to pursue that.
Whether you'll ever achieve it, I think it's a good gauge or measure on,
trying to counter all these imbalances that we all have.
But I think it's an impossible pursuit,
just because I think that's just not how the body works.
I think you're going to tend to lean heavily on your dominant side always.
But the pursuit of trying to make that as close to as evenly as possible,
I think is a good goal.
Yeah, your body is always going to be compensating,
and this is just going to change all the time.
And so that's why these reassessments
are really important to, and this is why we created something
like Prime, where it's just a very basic test to see,
monitor your joint function.
And just to see, like, if your abilities are still there
to be able to do
like a normal function of the joint.
And so I'm every now and then I'm just checking up on that to see what I've been neglecting
because inevitably you get into patterns and your body's going to adapt towards those patterns.
So to be able to kind of look at that, but my goal is always to maintain a certain level
of, you know, primal movement patterns is some people call it in terms of squatting,
in terms of, you know, being able to run, to be able to throw, to be able to jump, or,
you know, certain abilities I want to maintain, I have to be able to train that because otherwise my body's
going to prioritize other things.
And so some of these abilities are going
to kind of go right out from under you.
But yeah, you're always going to have
an balance, and that's just inevitable, just because we
don't do the same exact thing on both sides all day long.
It's just a matter of making sure that your priorities are met and also
that your joints are fully capable of the kind of range of motion you want and the stability
and support.
Next question is from BBXH. Can you do social level adult sports such as soccer and bodybuilding
or do they conflict? All right, it depends on what you mean by do they conflict, right?
Does lifting weights improve your ability to play soccer in other sports?
Yes, it does.
You can actually make you much faster and more stable and strong.
If your goal is to be the best bodybuilder you could possibly be,
then yeah, playing, you know, focusing a lot of energy in anything else
is gonna take away from that.
Now we get this question all the time,
and I think it's,
you have to understand one thing.
If you want to have extreme performance in one pursuit,
then oftentimes,
unless the other stuff that you're doing
is geared towards complementing that,
you can't also pursue that kind of extreme performance
in other attributes and not expect to have some detriment.
Okay, so you can't be the best soccer player
of your life and also be the best bodybuilder of your life.
There's gonna be some give and take,
but can you do them together, have a good quality of life
and get benefits for the-
Sure.
Absolutely.
If your goal is to enjoy what you're doing
and maybe lift some weights to compliment soccer,
I mean, that's a wonderful approach.
I think people put too much, they fear this too much.
You know what I mean?
So they're like, you know what, I'm not doing anything else.
I'm just gonna lift weights.
It's like, are you gonna be like a super bodybuilder?
Is that what you wanna do?
Or are you just trying to be fit and healthy?
Which case do you call?
I feel like it wouldn't be a quaff.
We didn't have this question.
I feel like we get every quaff.
And the quaff, we have pretty much this exact question
just worded differently and insert different sport,
different aesthetic goal.
But it's, you you know can I be
above soccer player like yes of course you can you don't lift lift weights and play soccer you're
going to be pretty buff looking soccer player I don't think but it's just are they conflicting will
they there's different attributes that make a great soccer player there's different attributes
that make a great bodybuilders this that simple and you're going to have to put some of your effort
in one of those directions and so if you are gonna put them in one direction, you're going to limit yourself on the other one
It's that but you doesn't mean you can't be a really fit-looking soccer player or that has good amount of muscle mass on you
And it doesn't mean you can't be a bodybuilder who actually plays soccer fairly well
I mean you can definitely do that this you're not gonna be the best, like Sal said, the best version of yourself at it,
doing both of them, because they are different goals.
I do, I do, I totally agree.
I do have one thing though
that really drives me crazy though,
with professional athletes,
when they seek out a bodybuilding coach
to train them all in hypertrophy,
leading into their very sport-specific pursuit.
And I've seen this time and time again with NFL athletes and MMA athletes, where they're
literally just training like a bodybuilder, leading up, and then they totally shit the
bed when they go to perform.
Yeah, I think you have to be the area you probably have to be the most careful is if you were an athlete, so if you're playing soccer on a fairly regular basis, the amount of bodybuilding
I would be doing would be minimal.
Mainly just for, I would compliment, do it to compliment.
Right.
It would be just enough.
I mean, one to two days a week is about all you want to be doing because I'd be more
worried about injury.
I'd be more worried about training so hard and heavy
to look a certain way.
Then I go out on the field and I try to do something explosive
and then I end up pulling or tearing something.
And so that's the one thing you've got to be careful
when you are chasing a body building goal
while also playing a sport.
This is true for sports too.
I want to, yeah, at some point, right?
When you're a kid, you do it all.
I mean, studies show if you do it all,
you do specific sports better by doing it that way.
But at some point, you specialize.
And then all your other training is geared towards
that specialization.
This is why it's so rare.
It's so rare to see a professional athlete
who's a professional in multiple sports.
And the only one that comes to mind for me is Bo Jackson.
I can't think of anybody else that,
I'm sure there were others, you guys probably know,
I don't know of any other athletes that were able
to sports.
Yeah, that were professionals, beyond standards.
Beyond standards, yeah.
But super rare, right?
Cause that's really hard to focus,
all your focus and technique and skills
and be so good that you can be the pro level
and one sport and then do it and another.
If you, I think I know what they're,
what they're really asking when they ask this question is,
am I gonna lose some gains?
Am I gonna lose some aesthetics?
I mean, I don't know, maybe if it's real extreme,
I bet you most people would probably not,
they probably look better just because they're doing
more activity, but if you let's say you're an advanced
bodybuilder, let's say you've been lifting weights
for four years and bodybuilding has been your focus
and that's all you've done for four years
and you've maximized muscular development.
And then you're like, you know what,
I'm gonna start playing soccer four days a week.
Therefore, I'm gonna lift weights only once or twice a week.
Are you gonna lose some of your bodybuilding gains?
Yeah, of course, of course you are,
because your focus has moved a little bit more
in another direction, but I think people put too much weight
into something like, they worry too much about this.
Unless you're at that extreme level,
who cares, like going into your life.
Especially at the wreck league level,
like they're saying. Yeah.
We're just doing this as a weekend wear.
But you just got to be cognizant too that, you know,
you're putting that excess amount of force and stress
around the joints.
So I would make sure at least you incorporate a bit more
mobility in your rituals going into something like that.
So you can just maintain the health of your ankles,
your knees, everything else.
That's the most important part of this conversation
is that I actually almost all of my injuries
that have happened in basketball have been probably
because I was training so consistently to be a body builder
and put mass and size and build.
And then I go get out on a basketball court
and think that I'm gonna be able to move the same
as I was moving when I was 19 years old.
And now I've got these over-dueled, developed quads and glutes, but then I had terrible ankle
mobility and stability.
And there goes my Achilles, right?
Or I don't have the same rotational strength with this new body that's 230 pounds that
I did when I was 180 pounds.
And so that's what you've got to be probably most cautious of
is if you have put a lot of energy and effort towards
building a bigger physique, a body building,
and then you decide to pick up a wreck league sport
whether it be soccer, basketball, and that,
and not realizing that you haven't trained
that new version of your body to be capable
of doing some of these exosive movements,
and that's normally where the injury occurs.
So this happens, it has happened to me multiple times.
So I need to take my own advice here,
but that's probably what I'd be most concerned about
when I ask this question less about,
oh well, I'll still look good or whatever,
is if I've been really focused on building a buff body,
and then I go play a sport that I haven't been training for is the likelihood
of potentially tearing something or hurt
injuring yourself.
Yeah, a very good point.
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