Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1627: Eight Stupid & Dangerous Fitness Lies
Episode Date: August 26, 2021In this episode Sal, Adam & Justin cover eight fitness myths that will slow your progress and in some cases even put your health at risk. The myths keep coming and Mind Pump is here to keep them in c...heck! (1:49) Eight Stupid & Dangerous Fitness Lies. #1 – When it comes to exercise, if some is good, more is better. (3:55) #2 – Cutting your reps short, or locking out, causes you to lose tension on the muscle. (12:51) #3 – High reps are great for getting lean and low reps are great for building size. (17:45) #4 – Cardio is BEST for burning fat. (24:58) #5 – Squats and deadlifts are NOT fundamental human movements. (33:36) #6 – Doing something is better than doing nothing. (41:26) #7 – Meat is bad for you. (46:36) #8 – Health at every size movement. (51:57) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Strong and MAPS Powerlift 50% off! **Promo code “AUGUSTSPECIAL” at checkout** Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! What is Metabolic Adaptation? - Mind Pump Blog Muscle Adaptation vs. Muscle Recovery – Mind Pump Blog Is Nutrition More Important than Exercising for Fat Loss? - Mind Pump Blog The Resistance Training Revolution – Book by Sal Di Stefano We Burn as Many Calories as Hunter-Gatherers, So What Makes Us Fat? Which Is Better: Low Reps Or High Reps? - Mind Pump Blog Why You Need to Mix Rep Ranges After Periods of Training – Mind Pump Blog Cardio Sucks for Fat Loss – Mind Pump Blog Why Resistance Training is the Best Form of Exercise – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1382: Why Everyone Should Squat Mind Pump #1430: Why Everyone Should Deadlift Are Group Fitness Classes Just A Trend? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1475: Eating Meat Is Good For The Climate With Robb Wolf How Much Is Too Much Red Meat? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1465: The Truth About Health At Every Size Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources
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Hey, I think it's time.
Every once in a while we do these episodes,
and I think we need to do another
stupid, crazy dumb fitness myths episode.
Because we can't keep up.
The myths just keep coming.
And it's hard to keep overcoming them
unless we do these episodes.
Yeah, we just have to keep all these things in check.
Yes, is what I feel.
Yeah, it's, you know, I tell you what, man,
one of the reasons, we've said this before,
but one of the reasons why we started the podcast
in the first place when we all met was
we all agreed that the fitness industry,
probably of all the industries is one of the worst yeah riddled with shenanigans terrible information in myths that not only are false
But also damaging actually produce the opposite effect of what people are looking for it's like a politics
You just got to follow the money. Yeah, you know, I'm saying it's true. It's really is like a lot of a lot of the myths that are that are in the space.
Not all, but most of the myths are tied back to some sort of product.
You know, it's something that they are trying to sell and that and so if you follow
the money many times, you'll forget.
And that's the thing you got to, it's important to address too.
I know you talk a lot about studies,
so on the show,
but a lot of the studies that are out there,
unfortunately, are funded by companies
that already have a desired outcome going into it.
Right.
And so, yeah.
Or they'll take a piece of the study and present it
as if that's conclusive evidence of something else.
So for example, they'll be like,
Compat like, I remember these things that came out,
a compound in dark chocolate has been shown to
accelerate fat mobilization, right?
Well, when you look at it in the study is-
Conveniently done by Hershey's.
Yeah, no.
And then you look at a study and you see that,
there's these things that are happening on a molecular level,
but at the end of the day, it doesn't result in more fat loss because you still need to be in a deficit and all that stuff.
Or compound and red wine might make you live longer.
Yeah, it's very true.
It will help you live longer.
So keep drinking that wine.
So probably the top myth that it's just, it's been around to stay one and it just won't
go away is that if some is good, and this is a relation to exercise, right? If some is good, more is better,
or if a certain intensity is good, harder is better.
So like there's no limit to how effective your workout can be.
You just gotta keep making it harder,
keep adding more, keep intensifying it, just go all out.
Yes, so let's pretend that we're talking about medicine for a second, right?
So you have an infection, you need an antibiotic, here's your dose, 15 milligrams or whatever.
Does that mean taking a 1500 milligrams is going to be more effective?
No, obviously not.
In fact, the too much will cause problems.
Same thing with exercise. The right dose will
get you there the fastest more than that and harder than that doesn't get you there any
faster and oftentimes gets you there slower.
Now, I like addressing this one because I think I fell on this trap for a really long time.
And as we're saying here talking about it, I'm trying to think of like, where do you think
the root of this is? Like, what do you of like, where do you think the root of this is?
Like, where do you think,
or what do you think the basis of it comes from?
Do you think it comes with athletics?
You think athletics or your idolize certain sports heroes
growing up and I think back then,
I don't necessarily know if it's the same today as it was
when we grew up, but we definitely idolized
a lot of sports heroes and how they must have
got there because they trained so hard every single day and they kept adding to that.
It's all these heroic punishing stories.
That's a lot of truth in that because if I watch the workout of somebody's extremely fit, or extremely muscular, very advanced.
To me, the average person, I'm looking at that going,
oh my gosh, that's insane, that's intense,
that's crazy, that's what I need to do
in order to look like I can only hope to do that.
But the problem is that that's how they work out,
maybe now, probably not always, by the way,
oftentimes when they're filmed,
I don't look, hey, I'm guilty of this.
If you film me in a workout, and you're gonna post it,
I'm gonna bring a higher level of intensity,
I'm gonna go heavier all that stuff, right?
So you're watching them like push themselves really hard,
plus you're watching what they do now
after years and years and years and years
of consistent training.
Had they trained like that at the beginning,
same thing would happen to them, that's gonna happen to you.
Well, not to mention athletes have a different goal in mind
than the average fitness consumer, right?
The average person who is watching these athletes
and how they train are more than likely here
to lose body fat or to build muscle.
And there is some value to athletes trained that way.
Although I do think it's abused,
and Justin's talked a lot about this on the show
with athletes, there's more value to an athlete training
too hard or stretching intensity
because it has more application to the game.
Psychologically.
Yeah, the psychological benefits of pushing the body
beyond carries over into sport more than it does
to Susie who wants to lose 35 pounds or little Mikey that wants to add 10 pounds of muscle. Those
people that has very little value in fact it's probably detrimental to their pursuit of their
goals. But somebody who is an athlete who isn't looking so much to add a bunch of muscle
or burn a bunch of body fat,
and they want to bring a new level of intensity to the game,
that has a little bit more carry-off.
You need that mental fortitude.
They need that toughness aspect to be able to compete
against other people that are pursuing the same thing.
So yeah, it's a difference, apples and oranges in terms of like your average person just trying to you know gain muscle and be healthy.
Yeah, think of it this way. This this really helps a lot.
If you understand that exercise and
Workouts all they are is a stimulus for adaptation. Okay, so let's use another word.
It's a stress on the body.
And the way that the body adapts to all stress,
any stress that you place on your body,
what your body attempts to do is become more resilient
to that stress, so that the same insult next time
doesn't cause problems, right?
So that's all it is.
That's all it is.
You're just setting something in motion
that tells your body we need to adapt to the stress.
Now let's look at other forms of adaptation in the body.
Let's look at your skin's ability to tan.
I like this one because a lot of people
can relate to this one.
When I go out to the sun and expose my skin to the UV rays,
my body perceives it as a potential stress.
And what's my adaptation?
My skin darkens.
Darker skin is more resilient to the sun.
So if I go out in the sun, I haven't been out there in a while.
You know, maybe 10 minutes is the most I could tolerate.
Beyond that, I start to get a sunburn.
But if I go out every single day for 10 minutes,
eventually I can handle 15 minutes, 20 30 minutes and so on as my body
It starts to adapt and become my skin starts to get darker
What happens if I apply too much sunlight right out the gates?
I don't get a suntan I get a sun burn and I actually reduce my body's ability or
Or or stop my body's ability to even tan because now my body's just
or stop my body's ability to even tan, because now my body's just inflamed and has damage.
So using that example, when you go out to exercise
and work out, if you surpass your body's ability
to even adapt, all you're doing is creating damage.
And all your body's concerned with is healing.
Healing is not the same as adaptation.
So you have to understand that.
This is why I could take a decondition person
who never works out and do one set of bodyweight squats,
and they'll get stronger the next time they work out.
Just one set of bodyweight squats.
Is that gonna do anything for me?
No, it's not gonna do anything for me at all,
but to the decondition individual, it will.
Now, what if I took that person
and I had them do my workout?
Are they going to get stronger faster?
The opposite's going to happen.
I'm going to cause too much damage, too much inflammation,
too much, too many problems,
and then their body's just healing,
and they won't even get stronger.
The body doesn't even,
can't even think about getting stronger
because all it's trying to do is heal.
So more and harder is not better.
The right dose is what's best. So athletic training has definitely been something I agree that
has contributed to it, but I don't know if it's the root cause or it's definitely not the only
thing either because I think another problem that makes people think this way too is the law
of thermodynamics. We know that we've we've been touting that in the fitness
space for so many years and so a lot of people go, okay, calories in versus calories out.
Just keep burning calories. So if I push harder, I am going to burn more calories. If I burn
more calories, I should potentially burn more fat, correct? So I think that is also part
of the problem is it's looked at as something is that simple simple. Because that's a law, that's something that everybody
in the fitness space has been touting for so many years,
then it just, it seems like, oh, that makes the most sense.
If I just do more and work harder,
I'm gonna burn more calories, burning more calories
is supposed to help me burn fat.
No, burning calories through movement
is a terrible approach to fat loss.
Your body very quickly adapts to the calories
that you burned during movement.
And we'll talk about this in a later myth,
but there's a study that I actually quote
in the resistance training revolution,
and there's other studies that support this.
So the one that I always bring up is the one that shows
modern hunter gatherer tribe,
the hodza tribe of Northern Tanzania, and they live the way that we live, the modern hunter gatherer tribe, the huts tribe of northern Tanzania,
and they live the way that we live thousands of years ago.
And they're way more active than the average American
or Western couch potato.
Way more active.
They don't have electronics.
They live in, you know, huts.
They hunt, the way they hunt is they throw a spear at something,
they wound it, they chase it forever
until it gets exhausted and then it dies or collapses
and they kill it.
Super active.
Scientists went down and studied them.
Very sophisticated testing, by the way,
to see what their metabolism was,
we're burning every day.
What are these people burning every day?
It must be crazy.
What they found was they burned generally
same amount of calories as the average Westerner.
Why?
Because it makes no sense for our bodies to burn
15,000 calories a day when we're really active
when we evolved in environments where food
was very hard to come by.
So moving a lot is a terrible way.
Now there's benefits to moving.
So I wanna make sure that people understand
that it's healthy to move,
but trying to burn calories through movement,
it's a terrible approach.
Rather what you wanna do is teach your body
to burn more calories, which we'll get into,
on its own, which we'll get into a little bit later.
This next one, actually, this was an issue before,
but it wasn't really a big issue.
I saw bodybuilders tout this.
I'm starting to see this now become a little bit more mainstream.
I'm seeing it more on social media.
And this is the myth that cutting your reps short
or not locking out, like, don't lock your elbows out
on a shoulder press or a bench press
or don't straighten your knees out on a squat
because you wanna keep tension on the muscle.
And when you lock out, you lose tension.
This is totally false.
It's a cheap way of keeping tension on the muscle,
but the best way to keep tension on the muscle
is to go through a full range of motion.
And at the top of a movement,
don't rest the weight on the joint,
but rather maintain internal tension yourself.
So that way you could train the muscle
through a full range of motion.
I mean, that's the key to this point right here,
is what you just said,
because I fell in this trap also.
So for many years in the beginning of training for me,
I was the time under tension guy.
I trained with a bunch of bodybuilder guys
that taught me this method of training.
And that was exactly how we would explain it
to other people that we were teaching that.
Listen, you don't want to lock the joints out
because then you're at rest.
And the whole idea is to have time,
under tension, the more that the muscle's under tension,
the more stimulus we're gonna get,
the more it's going to grow,
the more we're gonna break down.
And so, you know, don't ever want to lock out,
don't ever want to give that muscle any sort of rest.
And so we shorten up all these reps.
We would never go to full range of motion
in fear of giving the muscle rest. And the truth would never go to full range of motion in fear of giving the muscle rest.
And the truth is you can get full range of motion,
full extension in an exercise
with still keeping tension on the muscle.
I didn't understand that when I first started in training.
And so I fell on this trap of coaching and teaching this way.
Yeah, I cringe at this being
from a more functional kind of background
and just knowing
you know how the body then starts to prune these movements often and you know not locking out
we're starting to teach our body certain patterns and habits that you know it's going to reprioritize
to where that's going to be a difficult a difficulty that you're going to have to overcome later on
when you do have to extend your joints all the way out.
So if we're not training that way,
our body is gonna reprioritize the way
that it expresses the movement.
Now, you know, where I noticed the most,
like where it hurt me, was the overhead press.
Yeah.
So I did the whole, come down to 90 degrees, you know,
this was like my shoulder press for so many years
and I could not get full extension all the way up
over my head.
It took me a long time to back out of that
because I had shortened that range of motion up so much.
And so for me, that was one of the exercises.
I mean, there was many exercises that we shortened up,
but when I think of like, which one hurt me the most?
When I look at how long I had to go to fix that issue,
it took me a long time to be able to address
the shoulder mobility because I'm nervous.
Well, you brought this up before.
I've had models come in and trying to get them
to perform certain movements and just like,
and they're young guys coming in that cannot
extend their arm all the way up.
And that's just a normal functional movement pattern
that everybody should be able to do.
And if you're not capable of doing that,
that should be a sign to you that there's a problem here.
Yeah, to put it plainly, the range of motion that you train
is where you'll get a majority of your strength.
Okay, so if it's 10 inches, that's your range of motion.
Most of the strength that you gain will be in that 10 inches.
And the further you move outside of that 10 inches,
the less of that strength that you have,
to the point where you'll lose a lot of strength.
So if you never lock out your shoulder press
and maintain straight tension the whole time,
and let's say you shoulder press with 135,
you might only be able to do 100
with a super full range of motion.
Or maybe even less.
I see this with people at the bottom of reps all the time too.
What does that mean for you?
Well, besides the loss of functionality,
which I think is important by the way.
I don't know why people just credit that
because it's all about looking good.
Like, that's great, but if you could look the same,
even if you, by the way,
even if this didn't build more muscle,
make it look better, if you could look the same,
but have better function, obviously, it's better.
Why not have both?
It's crazy to me.
Yes, but I'll argue that it builds more muscle anyway,
because in this, all studies show this, full range of motion,
tend to build more muscle than shorter ranges of motion,
and this always applies.
So, locking out, but maintain tension.
So I can straighten my arms out,
and I could definitely figure out a way to let it rest
on the joint in the elbow and kind of balance it.
That's not what we're talking about.
I'm talking about maintaining tension the entire time,
same thing with the top of the squat
or the top of a bench press or any other left.
So full range of motion, maintain tension yourself.
All right, this next one, boy,
this one was an old myth.
I believed it early on,
actually believed it for a long time.
And that is that high reps are great for getting lean.
And low reps are great for building size.
Now here's the truth.
High reps, low reps, moderate reps, they all build muscle.
They all do the exact same thing.
They all build muscle.
And the one that's gonna burn the most body fat
is the one that's gonna build the most muscle in you
because that's what results in a faster metabolism,
which we've talked about many times on the show,
is the most effective way to get lean.
Now where's this myth come from? The myth
comes from the fact that 20 reps of squats will burn more calories than 10 reps of squats.
And this is somewhat true, but the calories burning to work out is such a small piece of
the formula that I really think it's a complete waste of time to look at that because again,
the body adapts and whatnot. And Especially if you're always doing high reps
and your body stops responding to it,
well, now you've lost the main benefit
of these repetitions, which was to build muscle.
I blame jazz or size.
That's who I blame.
Yeah, no, there's this sort of weird thought process, too,
that you watch these infomercials
and you watch a lot of these at-home workout programs
from the 80s and the 90s.
And everything was trying to promote tone, muscle tone.
And so even not just women,
but also men would watch that and be like,
okay, but that's how women train.
And so that's almost something that psychologically
was imprinted even on myself that if I did
like an excess of reps, uh, uh, honestly, I'm just, I'm just training for tone.
I'm like, no, I want to get jacked.
I don't blame that.
I actually blame good, really good six to eight week studies.
I mean, that's where this really comes from is that and there's research to show what
rep range is the best for building muscle.
And because of that, it's not the full story.
That's where everybody goes wrong.
Because we know that eight to 12 reps is the best for high
hypertrophy.
In a six to eight week study, we know that if we compare
to all the rep ranges, that training in that eight to 12
rep range is the best for building muscle.
But that doesn't tell the whole story because that same person who trains in eight to 12 rep range is the best for building muscle. But that doesn't tell the whole story
because that same person who trains
in eight to 12 reps all the time
because their goal is to build muscle.
Now, if they were doing,
and they've been doing that for years,
them simply switching to high reps
will actually end up building more muscle in their body.
So a lot of this, I think, comes from the research
and studies that would support these claims
because that's where I got that from.
I remember reading that and going like, oh, 12 reps was worth to stay in.
My goal is to build muscle.
It's not to tone or to burn more calories.
I want to build as much muscle as possible.
Look at what this great study is saying.
It's saying that if I stay in this rep range, this is the superior rep range for building muscle.
Okay.
So I stayed there forever. So that's where these studies,
they don't tell the full story.
And if you don't understand how the body adapts,
then you think that,
oh, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
Yeah, now here's the value of high reps
or low reps or moderate reps.
Right, part of the value is when your body's not used to it,
when you switch to that new rep range,
you get this new stimulus and you tend to trigger the body to start to improve again.
So if you always train in five reps and you've done it for six months and then you move
to 10 or 12 reps, you will notice that you'll build more muscle and get some new results.
So that's one part of the benefit.
Here's the other part of the benefit.
And this is where I think people need to really start to pay attention There are psychological benefits to training a low rep and high rep now
I personally if I'm dieting and I'm trying I'm a calorie deficit and I'm trying to get leaner
You will typically see me do higher reps now. It's not because
Higher reps get me leaner faster than lower reps
It's purely because when I cut my calories at this stage of my life and training,
I've been working out for a long time.
When I cut my calories,
I inevitably will start to lose some strength.
It's just gonna happen.
I'm not gonna have as heavy as a squat as I did
when my calories really high
and my bench press is gonna go down.
Psychologically, that can mess with me.
And I know this.
So I know if I'm cutting and I'm squatting
in the five-repar range and I'm dropping 15 pounds
off the bar like, oh, start to mess with my head
and then before you know it, I'm gonna have higher calories
because I don't wanna see the weight go down.
So what do I do?
I go higher reps, which means I have to lower the weight anyway.
And it kind of tricks me into being okay with going lighter
because I'm doing higher reps anyway.
That's what I like to do with the higher rep, low rep type of thing.
But other than that, all reps, all resistance training should be geared to building muscle,
even if you don't build any muscle.
At the very least, the one that's going to build the most muscle on you is the one that's
going to preserve the most muscle when you're trying to diet and cut down.
And that goes for even somebody who their main goal is to lose body fat.
Absolutely.
So even if you're main goal is I just want to lose body fat,
it's just as important to you to that person
that they don't stay in that 15 to 20 rep range either,
because same thing is going to apply after about six weeks.
Body's going to get very efficient at it
and adapted to that.
And actually one of the best things
to stimulate more muscle growth, more fat burning
would be to transition out of that high rep range
into a low rep range.
And so the key is to be constantly kind of moving through these.
And then the other mistake I see with this
is that people that kind of grasp that,
okay, you should have different rep ranges
and then every workout includes kind of everything.
And they don't realize that what ends up happening
is you fall into similar patterns and behaviors
and the body gets really used to training that way. This is why I like to do blocks where
it's like, okay, I'm for the next four to six weeks, I'm training in this rep range. All
exercises are going to fall in this rep range and then I will strategically move out of that
rep range into another one four to six weeks later and then be constantly moving. I, I, I, I, I, I of that personally is there's a mental state and a there's a way
you go into a workout and look for the way it feels and how you control the weight when
you're going heavy versus when you're going light.
You know, when I'm going heavy, there's a different control, there's a different tension,
there's a different tempo, different mentality.
When I'm going light, it's all very different.
And it's easier for me, and I see this one my clients as well.
It's better when we stay in that mental state
for three or four weeks versus Monday as high reps,
Tuesday as low reps, and we're mixing it up all over the place.
It actually takes me two or three workouts
to get really good with that mental state.
So I prefer the blocks.
This is why you find in our maps programs, when we take you through different rep ranges,
it's typically over the course of three or four weeks, and then you switch into another.
Well, each one of these methods is a skill.
I mean, and we talk about this with exercises, but also just being able to focus on that
specific style is going to take your body a while to get used to. And so to be able to get good at it, you need to be able to focus on that specific style is gonna take your body a while to get used to.
And so to be able to get good at it,
you need to be able to keep practicing it.
And so it's important to kind of allow yourself
a few weeks to really experience it specifically
on its own.
Now, the next one is one of my favorites for us to dispel.
And I feel like, we've been saying this for a really long time
and we always ruffle
some feathers whenever we talk about this.
And that is that cardio is best for burning fat.
Yeah.
That this idea that if you want to burn the most amount of body fat, that the best way
to go about that would be to increase your cardiovascular activity.
This is one of the most, now I want to say this first before we get into it, okay? There's value to doing cardiovascular activity. This is one of the most, now I wanna say this first before we get into it, okay?
There's value to doing cardiovascular activity.
There's health benefits doing cardiovascular activity.
There's benefits to all forms of exercise
so long as they're applied appropriately.
So I wanna say that before people go,
oh you guys are anti-cardio and you think cardio,
you know you shouldn't do it.
No, that's not what we're saying at all.
What we're saying is the message
that the best way to burn body fat
from an exercise perspective is cardio
is not only wrong, it's actually damaging.
This is one of the main reasons why I think
there's such a high fail rate with weight loss.
Now of course, it's very complex.
A lot of it has to do with diet.
But a lot of it also has to do with the fact
that when the average person decides they wanna lose weight, lose weight, this is what they end up doing.
They go, okay, I got to cut calories and let me start to do cardio.
Here's the problem and here's why we promoted cardio for so long.
In terms of time spent doing it, it does burn the most calories.
An hour of cardio, an hour of running, an hour of more calories and an hour of lifting
weights or doing other forms of resistance training.
This is totally true.
Here's the problem, the least valuable thing
of exercise, of all the things that exercise does for you.
The least valuable thing, 100% is the calories you burn
while you do it.
It's actually a waste of time to even look at that
because your body adapts to it
and we ignore the adaptations that take place
from that exercise.
Here's what happens with cardio.
When you do lots of cardio, your body gets better at cardio.
One of the ways your body gets better at cardio is it pairs muscle down and makes you more
efficient at burning calories.
In other words, when I say efficient, what I'm saying is it slows your metabolism down.
By the way, this is not just my experience or Adam and Dustin's experience in our clients,
although we've seen it many times,
studies show this when people die at endocardial,
a significant amount of the weight that they lose is muscle.
In some studies it's half.
Now why is that a bad thing?
Well, because now you're smaller,
same general body fat percentages you were before.
So you're a smaller, same flabbyness version
of yourself before, but now you have a slower metabolism.
So what does this look like in the long run?
Well, initially you do your cardio and your diet,
and you lose 10 pounds, and then you plateau,
what the hell's going on?
Why is it, why is my body losing any more weight?
I know I gotta do more cardio,
and I gotta cut my calories even more.
Then I lose into the five pounds, then I plateau again,
and I repeat the cycle at the end of this formula,
at the end of this road, you're now eating way less than you
did before, doing tons of activity, and just to maintain where you're at, you've got to
maintain this unsustainable exercise and diet.
Now, on the flip side, if you lift weights, you're not burning a lot of calories while you
lift the weights, but who cares?
What lifting weights does, or what resistance training does,
because you can use body weight or bands too,
is it builds muscle, which directly speeds up your metabolism.
And I've seen this many times, many, many times with clients.
They lose weight at the end of the weight loss journey,
they actually have a faster metabolism
than they start a width.
So imagine you're eating more at the end of your weight loss
journey to maintain your new lean body.
That's a sustainable approach.
Yeah, and I think this is still out there because it's super misleading because your body does shrink.
You know that you do see substantial difference when you apply this method. But like you said,
inevitably you're going to hit this plateau, your body isn't stronger.
Like you said, inevitably you're gonna hit this plateau, your body isn't stronger,
and all those are signals on its own
that we're not maintaining the amount of muscle
that we had previously.
And I just don't think that people are aware
that there's a different way to approach that.
And you can do it in a way where you can also maintain
a healthy amount of muscle mass and strength
and get all these other benefits to it, but also, you know, reduce down, you know, the overall
body fat that you're carrying around. Well, you hit it on the head on why this is so misleading,
is because temporarily it actually results in what the people are trying to, you know, get.
Initially, the scale moves fast. Yeah, I mean, if you get somebody who wants to lose, say,
30 to 50 pounds, and they heard that, you know,
I just need to cut my calories, and I need to start doing cardio,
and that'll help lose weight.
That's confirmed, initially.
I mean, they cut their, let's say you got someone eating
three to 4,000 bad calories all day long,
and they're not doing any sort of
exercise. You take that same person, you reduce them to 1,500 calories and an hour of cardio every
single day. And initially, for the next week or two, they're going to drop weight probably every
single day for the next two to three weeks. But what it doesn't do is it doesn't tell the whole
story because what exactly are you, what are you telling the body by eating less calories
and creating more activity and more movement is to your point, so I'll say you're telling the
body to become very efficient at how little you're going to feed it and how much you're going to ask
of it to do. And so then it goes, okay, then the result of that is slow the metabolism down as
slow as we put it because your body is going, oh shit, I don't know when this person's gonna feed me again.
So I've got to figure out how to maintain
all this new activity off of 1500 calories.
And then the inevitable happens, a plateau,
and that person doubles down on that theory
and goes, okay, well then I gotta cut my calories even more
and then create even more activity.
And then so that, and I think you're exactly right, Salah,
this is the main reason why we have such a problem with,
and we don't have a problem with losing weight.
We have a problem with keeping it off.
People lose weight every day, every year,
and it's consistently happening.
But what happens is 80 plus percent of those people
put it all back on and some more.
And I think it's because of the,
and I think that's why too,
I think I'm so passionate about dispelling this myth because I think it is
one of the number one culprits for the lack of success
that people have because this is the approach
that they have with fat loss.
Oh, it's extremely discouraging,
because I lost 20 pounds, but I'm doing cardio
six days a week, and I'm eating almost nothing.
I'm working really hard.
And then I go, yeah, you are.
Yeah, and then I go on vacation for a week
and boom, I gained a bunch of weight back
and what the hell is going on?
By the way, your metabolism slowing down
to adapt to cardio or speeding up,
to adapt to resistance training.
Both of those are not bad.
A metabolism that slows down,
your metabolism is doing exactly what you evolve to do.
And this is true now, a slow metabolism was extremely valuable.
100,000 years ago.
Back when food was scarce.
Well, 100,000 years ago, you don't want,
like the huts are tripe, they studied, right?
Like I talked about earlier.
They, you don't want to be a hunter gatherer
burning six or seven thousand, you're gonna die.
Where are you gonna find six or seven thousand calories
in nature.
So it was a great thing.
Today, if you live in modern societies,
you know what's a good thing?
A fast metabolism, I'll tell you what,
if I could snap my fingers and do one thing,
that would cure the obesity epidemic.
It would be this.
If I could double everybody's metabolism like that.
That's it, everybody does the same shit, eat the same,
but everybody's metabolism like that. That's it. Everybody does the same shit, eat the same, but everybody's metabolism just doubled.
You would see the obesity epidemic disappear
within a very short period of time.
Temporarily.
A fast metabolism, I'm sure they would.
It's all the behaviors of the same thing.
It's all the behaviors of the same thing.
We would find a way.
But my point with that is that a fast metabolism
is extremely valuable now.
And so that's what you wanna aim for.
Here's the beauty of it, by the way.
Resistus training doesn't need to be performed
nearly as often as cardio.
In fact, for the average person,
two days a week is plenty to give them
a lot of these benefits.
And one more thing just to hammer this home,
one of the other beauties of resistance training
is it's the only form of exercise
that positively influences the hormones.
It brings a youthful level of hormone
because the main signal is to build muscle
and the hormones associated with building muscle
testosterone, better growth hormone,
lower cortisol, balanced estrogen and progesterone
starts to happen.
Well, cardio doesn't send a preserved muscle signal.
And in fact, it tells you to get rid of muscle
because you just need endurance
But you don't need much strength. So terrible myth and it's one of the more damaging ones
It's actually the whole reason why I wrote the resistance training revolution was the main one now this next one is
Becoming a bit of a trend that I'm starting to see people
Talk about now and I think
Part of the reason why it's becoming a trend is because one of the strategies with marketing and social media, if you want to get something go viral, you
got to be a contrarian. Yes. You want to counter what a lot of people believe. And there's
truth to this. We did this early on, except we picked things that were actually false and
countered them. We went the truth route. This next myth is totally false. And this is what
you hear sometimes is that squats and deadlifts, they're not essential. You went the truth route. Yeah. This next myth is totally false, and this is what you hear sometimes,
is that squats and deadlifts, they're not essential.
You don't need to do them to develop a great body.
Now, let me replace this with something else.
You don't need to walk.
You don't need to know how to walk
in order for you to be alive and be a human.
Like, and the reason why that one sounds crazy to people
is because we understand generally
that walking is a fundamental
human movement. Imagine if you couldn't walk anymore, who cares how fit and you know great everything looks, you can't walk, you can't walk.
Squatting and deadlifting are also essential human movements. So even if, and we'll argue the opposite of this, but even if
So even if, and we'll argue the opposite of this, but even if squatting and deadlifting was no more effective than other exercises for building muscle and burning body fat, which
isn't true, they are more effective.
But even if they weren't more effective, you still want to do them because squatting and
deadlifting are literally fundamental human movements.
And if you stop training them, you actually lose the ability to do that.
The truth is the only reason why your walking analogy sounds so ridiculous is because we're not quite wally yet.
I mean, seriously, if everybody had these hover boards
and floating scooters that flew right underneath your feet
as soon as you got out of bed
and you never had to walk anywhere,
that's how this would be talked about.
And it wouldn't be so absurd
because people are like, well, why?
I don't need to really walk.
And that's what's happened with squatting and deadlifting is
because we've evolved with tools so much,
it's not necessarily that it is essential.
You don't technically have to squat and deadlift for us,
right?
You could get away with it.
Just like soon here,
we'll probably be able to get away
with never having to walk if you don't want to.
But the idea that we've accepted
that we can no longer get down beyond 90 degrees
because we're, and we attribute that
to just getting older.
It's like, no, we've lost that ability
because we stopped doing it,
which is why I can't stand people in the fitness space
that promote this message.
And they do it for what you guys said,
it's just to be contrarian,
just to be able to get clicks
because we know that squatting and deadlifting
is so valuable.
So, oh, you know what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take
the opposite approach and tell people that
look at this exercise, you could do a hax squat
and it stimulates the same muscles
and arguably is easier and safer than someone
doing a back squat.
Therefore, this isn't necessary.
It's like that's terrible.
Regardless if it's true, regardless if you could
technically build
just as much muscle with a haxquad as you can
a back squat, even if you wanna go down that rabbit hole
and make that case and I can see and say,
okay, you're right, it's still a terrible message
to tell people that we should just give up
being able to do these movements that are fundamental.
Well, nice somewhat blank coaches too,
because the thought process a lot of times
when certain things are a bit
more challenging than others, squatting a dead left is hard.
It's a hard skill to learn.
It requires some discipline, it requires some education, but it's so incredibly valuable
and it should be something to aspire, something that aspires to get
better at and to keep practicing and keep part of the programming.
Whereas, it's a lot easier to avoid those and still be able to get a good muscle workout
and weave around the ways of being able to, you know, try to teach incredibly difficult types
of exercises, but, you know, my thought process with that
is we're avoiding some of the most effective things
in the gym that you could be doing.
Yeah, and here's the thing, we constantly do this
as humans, as we constantly ignore and discredit our nature.
So what do I mean by that?
Okay, humans are, I'll use a different example.
Humans are incredibly social animals,
the most social animals that we know about.
So what did we just experience with lockdowns
and people were isolated, right?
We don't need to be around each other.
I don't need to see you guys.
I can order everything online.
I can order all my food online.
I can work from home.
But what did we all experience?
Depression, anxiety, mental health went down, people,
why?
Because we are supposed to be around each other, right?
Okay, humans are supposed to squat and deadlift.
They're fundamental human movements.
If you stop doing them, there are downstream effects
that you can't predict.
Namely, you start to reduce your health.
You start to lose quality of life.
And does that affect your ability to build muscle and look good?
Yeah, I definitely does.
But because they're fundamental, when you stop doing them,
you actually take a piece of your humanity literally away,
just like if you stopped walking.
So they're not just effective exercises
that making you look good, which they are.
They're some of the most effective.
They're fundamental human movements.
And if you exercise your body
and don't exercise these most important movements,
you are almost completely missing out
on the whole purpose of why you're working for yourself.
And when you're strong, you're protecting your joints
and you're protecting your body from pain.
Yes.
And I think that's something that people don't realize that either.
There's just a lot of times it seems like it's just the age factor.
It's like I'm getting old.
And so therefore, I'm just going to experience these pains, these arthritis, it just becomes
part of the normal, new normal.
Whereas you could be addressing this ahead of time getting stronger,
you don't have to experience that type of pain.
Well, that even more reason why you should be doing this
to your point you're making right now is that,
you know, it's always the fitness professional
that's all jacked and ripped and trains five to seven days
a week that's making this case.
And I think the problem I have most with it
is because I think about the average person.
And I also think about even the way I train today compared to what I trained just a decade
ago, like, you know, the way I train right now is literally to do as little as possible
inside there to maintain a healthy, fit, strong body.
Like that's, my goal is more towards business and fatherhood and being a good partner and
things like that.
It's not about having the most jacked physique.
And when I think about exercises that I can do that give me the most bang for my
buck, there's just nothing that compares to a squat.
The ability to be able to just barbell back squat, what that does for shoulder
mobility, what that does for your spine, your neck, your hips, your ankle mobility,
like your core strength, like your posterior chain.
I mean, there's not a lot of exercises
that if you just get good at that one thing
that it promotes pretty good general health
and your entire body from your neck to your fucking toes.
So I can't stand when I see someone
who's super shredded and ripped,
that's making this case that we can do hack squats instead,
or you never have to do a barbell backsquat,
not because it's not true and you can't be ripped
and never do those movements, of course you can.
But because it's such an important movement for people
to learn and get good at, because one day you will wake up
and you're gonna be 50 something years old,
and you don't care to be the compete with the 25 year old kids
that I got shredded quads and lifting seven days a week. you're just like, hey, I just want to be fit and
strong.
I want to be a good dad.
I want to be focused on business.
And I want to do as little as possible inside this gym and get the most bang from my buck.
And I tell you what, when you eliminate exercises like dead lifting and squatting, you're eliminating
two of the best movements you can to obtain that goal.
Yeah, totally.
100%.
All right, here's the next one,
and I hear this one, I used to hear this one all the time
from people in the gym when I would talk to them
about proper exercise and what's most effective,
and even have family members tell me this,
which is, well, let's say my aunt is doing,
she's never exercises and then she decides,
she's gonna start working out.
So she starts doing spin classes, right?
Super intense spin classes. And I sit her down and say, listen, that's not really good for
you. Your fitness level is not there. You should focus on balancing out your body. We need to do
some strength. Same way when she goes, you know what, though? But doing something's better than
doing nothing, right? So at least I'm moving. Isn't that good? This one ruffles feathers so bad
right here because people get caught up in whatever, thing they're doing whether it be a Zumba class in Orange Theory and F-45.
Like they found something they're CrossFit box. They found something that they love the community
around it and they love they love something about it and they do not want to be told that.
They don't want to be criticized at all and At all, and it always, and that's always the,
after you break it all down and explain to people
why it may not be the best thing for them.
In fact, it's probably one of the worst things
it could potentially be doing,
that the argument back is always that, is always,
well, it's better than doing nothing at all.
And I'm gonna make the case that it's not necessarily,
I mean, you could be setting yourself up
for a much harder time.
If you're doing a class that is high intensity all the time
and you're eating less calories to try and burn by fat,
it goes back to the metabolism point that we made up earlier.
The constant pounding on the joints could cause wear and tear
to where you have aches and pain
that now will limit you from doing other exercises.
So you slow the metabolism down, you potentially injure yourself, and then you're only making it that much more difficult to maintain this healthy, fit body down the road.
Maybe it's working for you right now because you're enjoying it and you're in the thick of it, but it isn't necessarily better just because you're doing something.
No, appropriate activity is better than no activity, right?
In appropriate activities, bad.
That's like, that's the bottom line.
If you work out wrong too hard
or in a way that's inappropriate for your body,
you are not only not helping yourself out,
you're causing damage and you're causing problems
and it hurts you in the long run.
So it's not better to do something versus nothing.
If that's something is hurting you
and causing problems down the line,
and I'll argue this is one of the reason,
by the way, if you were to pull most people,
have you ever exercised before,
a majority of people would say yes, right?
Majority people would say yes.
Then if you do that same poll,
are you exercising consistently now, most of them would say no. And? majority of people say yes. Then if you do that same poll, are you exercising consistently now,
most of them would say no.
And one of the reasons why they say no
is all the bad experiences that they had.
Oh, I tried it, never worked for it.
I hurt my back, my knee hurts, or I lost weight
and then I gained it back.
And so I just stopped doing it.
Part of that reason is because they were doing something
that was wrong.
They were doing something that was wrong.
And it ruins them for the future.
And it's hard.
When someone goes through three or four or five cycles of losing and gaining weight or trying
and it doesn't work, at some point you're like, screw it.
I've tried it for a while.
That or they connect their positive results to all that hard activity just to be, so just
to be, I've heard this before, like I got a client who is put on 10 to 15 pounds from
when they were doing their crazy class
five to seven days a week,
and they would look at me and they'll be like,
you know, honestly, Adam, I'd rather be 10 pounds fatter
and not having to frickin' hammer myself in that class
every day for an hour and so on.
And so it distorts their image of what is necessary
to be healthy.
They think that, oh, in order for me to be 10 or 15 pounds lighter
or in that shape I was before, I got to be taking this super high intensity class and hammering
it out an hour for five days a week. And quite frankly, Adam, I'm now at an age where I don't
give a shit that much. So I don't want to do it. So then they just dismiss all exercise
because they connect it to that intense way of doing it.
It's much more difficult to undo bad patterns,
at the end of the day, to be able to undo all these things
that you're teaching your body and you're forming
these solid movement patterns.
So to be able to undo that and kind of repair that going forward
is much more difficult than to just barely do one thing at a time the right way.
Well, it goes back to the shoulder pressing that I brought up with the time and attention
thing.
Had I been taught to go full range of motion from the very beginning, I would have never
had to undo all that.
It took years of actually working on shoulder mobility just to get to a place where I could
actually hold a bar behind my head. Like, I couldn't do that for a long time because of your point that you're making right now,
because I had created such bad patterns for some of the years. It wasn't so simply as like,
oh, now I'll go full-range emotion. It's like, well, I can't now. So now I have to do all this work
to undo all that bad shit I did, which is what you get with some of these high-intensity type of
classes, is you've got somebody with poor posture,
doing repetitive movements at high intensity
for weeks and months and years at a time,
and that work to undo is just,
it's such an uphill battle.
Yeah, all right, this next one's really annoying to me,
and this one's become actually quite politicized,
and that's the myth that meat is bad for you,
and I hate this one,
because it's completely false.
Now, I'm not talking about all meat, okay?
Processed meats and meat snacks
can sometimes definitely be bad for you.
Hot dogs, probably not as good for you
as a piece of just steak or ground beef or something like that.
But here's the truth, okay?
Meat is one of the most nutrient dense forms of food you'll find on the planet.
In fact, if you were on a game show where you had to be stranded on an island with one
food for a year and if you could survive, you would make a billion dollars. The one
form of food that you should pick is meat. Literally, there's no other single food
that will provide you with almost every single nutrient
that your body needs.
Meat does this.
It's very nutrient dense.
It contains essential nutrients.
It's a phenomenal source, of course, of high quality protein.
The fats and meats are not bad,
like they say, for most people that are actually quite fine.
What's bad for you is overeating,
what's bad for you are heavily processed foods.
Part of the reason why people say meat is bad for you and they'll pull up studies is
in these studies, they're people reading cheeseburgers and hot dogs and salami and stuff
like that.
And they throw that on there and be like, ooh, look at all this meat and look at all
this correlation to, you know, or connection to.
It's actually really hard to overeat
if your diet is mostly all meat.
I remember when we went through the ketogenic diet
and I happened to do it in the thick of like the competing years
and so my, my caloric maintenance was really high.
And I remember telling you that like,
okay, I like this, this all meat type of a diet
for trying to maintain maintain body weight or potentially
losing body fat, but God to try and gain or eat enough calories when you're eating primarily.
Meat is just an incredibly difficult.
So I think a lot of this though is, I feel like it's been politicized.
100%.
I mean, I really don't, I think it has a little...
It's a little...
It's essential.
Yeah, and I feel like the messaging that's been negative
around meat has been more about the environment
and moving in that direction
than it really is about is meat nutritious.
Well, it's also marketers because you can't patent a steak, right?
I can't patent a piece of steak
or some ground beef
or chicken breast or chicken thigh,
but I can patent a plant-based alternative, right?
I can patent fake hamburger meat,
tastes just like hamburger meat,
but it's all hydrogenated oils.
Yeah, it's plant-based, and therefore it's better for you,
but I can patent it because I created it myself as a product.
So this is one of the main drivers
of all the money.
Follow the money.
So one of the main reasons why you hear this is,
look, I can patent a meat product too.
I could take meat and turn it into like a piece of salami
or some sort or whatever,
but you don't see patented steak or ground.
And so what does that mean?
That means the price gets low.
It's very competitive.
People don't have protection against competition, right?
If there's a farm over here making good steak and I'm over here producing good steak, well
then, you know, the better product and with the better price is probably going to win
out.
But if I make a fake meat patty, I pat into it.
Nobody else can create it.
And if I make it taste like meat, by the way, you ever find this interesting,
you never find meat-based products that copy plant.
You don't find, you don't find, you don't find,
you don't find like, hey, it looks just like a carrot.
It tastes like bacon.
It tastes just like a carrot, but it's made with ground beef,
but it tastes just like a carrot.
I would never sell, right?
There's a reason why we, this is like something
that we kind of desire because it's essential.
Again, I'll give you another example.
If you go to hunter gathers, modern hunter gathers today,
and you would take the meat out of their diet, they're dead.
They're dead.
They will not survive.
Well, I was gonna say, like, one of my favorite things to do,
just go watch naked and afraid.
That's true.
All you gotta do, and if somebody on there
and there has been that are just plant-based
or vegetarian or vegan or whatever,
and they do not last, there's no way.
They're not getting the nutrients they need
to keep their body going.
Well, that's part of why this has been perpetuated
is because we have the luxury.
Yeah, it's a luxury.
We have this luxury to say that,
let's follow this type of, any diet.
I mean, because for,
You can get away with most of our existence,
you ate whatever you could get your hands on,
and you would want to get your hands on
the most nutrient dense foods as possible
because it was all about survival.
But we live in a different time now
where we have all this luxury of food at every corner
or delivered to your house,
and so we can start to nitpick all the things like this.
Yeah, and the truth is, I mean,
you can eat a meatless diet today,
but it does require more planning,
and you have to be more careful,
nutrient deficiencies are higher,
or the risk is much higher,
you have to have much more of a blend of foods.
But meat in a good diet, here's the other thing,
the context has to be right, right?
So if you study people who eat a lot of meat,
but also eat too many calories, you're going
to see problems.
But if somebody eats an appropriate amount of calories, everything else is healthy and
they're active, and meat is a part of the diet, it's perfectly healthy.
Meat is not bad for you.
All right, this last one.
This one's a new message that we're starting to hear and see, and it's really frustrating
because it feels like gaslighting.
And that's the health at every size message,
that your obesity really doesn't,
you can be just as healthy and be obese as somebody
who's not obese, or at least you can be as healthy
as you would be if you weren't obese,
just you just got to move and be active and you're okay.
Now to defend this, I think it's important,
because I want to defend this a little bit,
because I believe that the root of this message
was intended for good originally.
Like I really believe that
part of the anti-bullying movement
and the health of every size type of movement
comes from this that we shouldn't judge other people
and you never know how healthy someone can be,
even if they are 10 or 15 pounds,
it's starting about loving yourself.
Yeah, and I think that we promote that message
about taking care of yourself
as like if you were to take care of a loved one, right?
So I think that the root of this message
and the core of it is actually good, but I think
it's been hijacked and it's been marketed and turned into...
Weaponized.
Yeah, for clickbait reasons.
You talked about, to be contrarian, nothing is going to freak out the health and fitness
community than putting an obese person on the cover of Shape Magazine.
So this is healthy.
This is healthy, like talk about getting magazines to sell,
creating controversy, getting people to talk about it.
So I do think that it's been hijacked.
And the unfortunate part is the average consumer
is the person who's suffering
because there are some people that don't realize
that this movement's been hijacked
and really are starting to believe this message.
That oh, I could be 50, 60 pounds overweight
and still be really healthy.
And the truth is, no, you're not.
You're not healthy at least.
You're definitely not the healthiest version
that you could possibly be.
You would be 10 times healthier
that same person with 50 pounds of less fat on your body.
That is key, by the way,
because what you don't wanna do,
this is not a fair comparison,
is to take obese people
who exercise and eat whole natural foods
and do everything else and compare them to people
who are at normal weight, who smoke, drink alcohol,
and have bad relationships and a lot of stuff.
That's not a fair comparison.
The comparison is you, not obese, doing all the healthy stuff
versus you, being obese, doing all the healthy stuff versus you being obese, doing all the healthy stuff.
Just the obesity itself contribute to worse health.
And the answer is unequivocally, yes, 100%.
Just having that much, by the way, body fat isn't this innocuous tissue that you just
store on your body and it doesn't do anything.
It's a hormone sensitive tissue.
It produces its own inflammatory markers.
It obviously is extra weight that you have to carry
that doesn't support itself.
So if I gain 10 pounds of muscle,
that 10 pounds of muscle moves itself.
It's functional, right?
If I gain 10 pounds of body fat,
it's like I'm wearing a weight vest
with extra weight on my body.
So now my joints and my body has to support it.
It exacerbates other underlying issues
that are happening in the body internally.
Right, it's estrogen sensitive.
It reduces insulin sensitivity by itself.
So obesity by itself, even if everything else looks good,
by itself contributes to a lower quality of life,
reduced health, reduced longevity, that is a fact,
it has proven in every single study
that's ever been done on it,
but this is a message that is being sold
to get you to buy crappy products or magazines,
or even being used in political ways to say
that it's shaming people, to say that obesity is unhealthy.
Totally not true.
Being overweight by itself has health.
And maybe one of the most dangerous myths that all the ones we address.
Absolutely.
Because you start getting to the place where people start accepting that and believing
that, that's true.
And we're just going to continue to head in the direction that we have been for the last
three decades.
Totally.
Look, if you like our information, head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out
all of our free guides, right?
So we have guides on muscle building and fat loss,
we have guides on improving your health and longevity,
reducing pain, we have guides for personal trainers.
Again, it's MindPumpFree.com.
You can also find all of us on Instagram,
so you can find Justin at MindPump Justin,
me at MindPumpSal and Adam at MindPump.com.
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