Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1645: How to Train Like Your Favorite Athlete
Episode Date: September 20, 2021In this episode Sal, Adam & Justin discuss the key methods of training necessary to look and perform like an athlete. Why performance is very objective. (2:05) Cautioning the audience on the importan...ce of having the prerequisites in place, before you conduct your favorite athlete’s training routine. (6:10) The Key Components Necessary to Train Like Your Favorite Athlete. #1 - Don’t train for show, train for go. (11:57) #2 - Strength, the foundational physical pursuit. (18:50) #3 – Proprioceptive Ability, being able to train in different planes of motion. (24:30) #4 – Addressing weak links. (32:01) #5 – Having a bigger gas tank and endurance. (39:14) #6 – Fast explosive strength, the ultimate expression of athleticism. (46:55) Related Links/Products Mentioned Limited Time Promotion: MAPS Extreme Athlete Bundle **MAPS Performance, Prime, HIIT & Powerflift for the low price of $149.99** Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump5” at checkout** Stop Working Out And Start Practicing – Mind Pump Blog How To Improve YOUR Work Capacity (6 MOVEMENTS) | MIND PUMP TV Untold: Caitlyn Jenner | Netflix Official Site MAPS Prime Webinar Mind Pump #1307: How To Make Your HIIT Workout More Effective Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources
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We talk about how to train like your favorite athlete.
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or looking like an athlete,
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Well, training this way will do that as well.
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Here's something that's interesting.
This is connected to what we're about to talk about.
Some of the best results I ever got
with my personal workouts,
and definitely with my clients.
Definitely with my clients,
was when the focus was entirely on performance,
how you perform, how strong you are,
how well you move.
In fact, this was a technique that I used often,
especially in the back half of my career
when I really figured this out.
If I got a client that wanted to lose weight
or sculpt their body, build this, build that,
look at a certain way, I would say,
you know what, let's do this for the next three months.
We're not gonna focus on the scale,
we're not gonna focus on the mirror.
I just wanna improve your performance. At the end of that three-month period
Then we'll assess your appearance and I'll make this guarantee right here if we improve your performance
You're gonna be very happy with the way you look. I was in it was a game changer. I was late to the party on this one
I wish that
Somebody would have taught me this early on in my career
somebody would have taught me this early on in my career. Because it made a tremendous difference
on the consistency that my clients would have
with their training program when I got them to shift away
from the mirror and scale.
Now I was trying to do that,
but I didn't think until later on to like shifted over
in the performance direction.
It was just, oh, you know, stop paying attention to the scale
so much, but then they still, you know, they would, you know, and I, what I wasn't
doing early on, even though I knew it was a bad idea to focus on the scale and the mirror,
I wasn't giving them the performance metrics to look at. Once I started to do that, then
it gave them something that they could be encouraged about and they could focus in
on versus me just saying, no, don't pay attention to the mirror, don't pay attention to the scale,
because you tell them that,
and I had nothing else for them to focus on,
they're still gonna go focus on that.
Well, performance is objective.
That's the big key, right?
It's like, I mean, how subjective is appearance?
It's so subjective.
Oh, I look good, I don't look good.
I don't know how many times have you said this
about yourself and then five years later,
see a picture of yourself and you go,
actually, I looked a lot better than I thought,
performance is very objective.
And here's, this is important now,
it's a very important key.
All of our guides us to what we consider to be aesthetic, right?
The things that we think look good,
the only reason why we think they look good
is because it evolved as a signal to explain performance.
Like why is a man with wide shoulders
and a smaller waist and a muscular upper body
considered attractive?
Because what that meant was performance.
He could move.
He was strong.
His testosterone levels were high.
Why is it, you know, historically a hip to waist ratio,
is a particular number on women.
Why is that considered attractive across all cultures number on women. Why is that considered attractive
across all cultures, regardless of weight? Why is that considered attractive? Because that
points to performance, childbirth, health, you know, do that, does she have a good fatty
acid profile? Is she healthy essentially? So all of the stuff that we tend to aim towards
in the fitness space, especially popular fitness media actually originates from performance and well-trained athletes
look good as a side effect.
And more often than not, they look good.
And more often than not, they look better than people who only focus on looks and pay no
attention to performance.
How interesting is that?
It's so much a better psychological practice and behavioral practice.
It's just a healthier way to approach it in terms of finding value from those metrics and
seeing that actually happen as opposed to just all the nuances of seeing how your body
shifting almost on a daily basis based on what you're consuming or the mood
you're in.
It's just like it's too much emphasis on looks, whereas once you start really getting
more involved in the performance side and you get the quality of your movement and there's
just a lot of different motivating drivers there that can carry you further than just, you know,
the day to day, am I looking good today?
Am I not looking good today?
Now, there is another side to this coin though,
and that I would caution anybody that's listening right now
because we're promoting this idea of, you know,
the benefits of training more like an athlete
or thinking like that, right, towards performance.
But I also think that, and maybe this is why I didn't focus on this.
I also saw a problem with clients that would open up magazine articles and their favorite
NFL wide receiver, or the rock, or some person that they aspire to be like, that's athletic,
and then their workout is in the magazine.
And so they go and they follow this.
And it rarely ever is actually a really good,
programmed routine.
It's something that's got, you know,
plyometrics and explosive movements
and weird exercises they've never done before.
And they're like, oh, you know, my,
O'Dell Beckham does this.
I'm gonna start doing this now. And so I would be challenged with that,
with those people that are drawn to training like an athlete,
but then also haven't done the prerequisites to train that way.
So there's two things that we need to address here.
If you're training, if you're a coach,
and you're training a specific athlete,
the training is very specific
to the person and the sport.
Okay, so athletic training for a football player is going to look different than athletic
training for a swimmer or an endurance runner or a cyclist or a baseball player, right?
It's going to look different.
What we're talking about here, and that's got lots of value, by the way.
So if you want to train for a specific sport and you're a high performing athlete,
then you want to train specifically for that sport.
What we're talking about is general athletic training.
So the average person who's like,
man, I like to move well, I like to be fast, strong,
I like to feel good.
And then the side effect of that is,
man, I look really good, I look really balanced,
and I move really well. That's general athletic training versus kind of that is, man, I look really good, I look really balanced, and I move really well.
That's general athletic training versus kind of
that specific that you're talking about.
And we could do a podcast on like,
how to train four football, how to train four baseball.
But I think in this episode, we're gonna talk about is,
general athletic training, the components of it,
the factors that you wanna pay attention to,
that will benefit you regardless of what your goals are.
Yeah, but that's my point that I'm trying to make
is that exactly that.
That the general population tends to do this.
Yeah.
The general population who isn't.
They make the wrong decision.
They're not a wide receiver for the,
they're not even probably a football player,
but they just love watching football
and that's their favorite football player.
So therefore they go do it.
It's rarely, I'm not talking about the kid who is in college and he's been training his whole career and he's a football player. So therefore they go do it. It's rarely, I'm not talking about the kid who is in college
and he's been training his whole career
and he's a football player and he sees what a football player
is doing.
So therefore he goes and mimics it.
I'm talking about the weekend warrior
who's watching football or watching these athletes
and then goes, man, motivate.
They're motivated temporarily by this.
Which is a good point to bring up
because a lot of those workouts are even more
wrists.
There's more risk involved.
There's more detriment because of the explosive nature of them, because athletics
really, you do express very fast-twitch explosive movements that you have to be able to control
your body at an even higher level, then say, you
know, some of these crazy workouts we've seen with bodybuilders, where it's just like a
ton of volume and it's, you know, a lot of pumping exercise, a lot of like really hard
muscular hypertrophy type based workouts. But I caution that because even more so requires the prerequisites of movement and the ability
to stabilize and control your joints before adding on that type of exercise.
Well, look, the bottom line is this, and we talk about this all the time, if this is a
long, a lifelong endeavor for you, if you want to look good and be fit and be lean, and
you don't just want to do it for a short period of time.
You're not just trying to get in shape
and then get out of shape and gain the way back and whatever.
You're like, look, I want to do this.
I want to do it right.
And I want to be able to maintain this forever.
There's value in all these modalities.
There's value in bodybuilding style training.
We've done episodes on that.
There's value in athletic based training.
There's value in strength based or powerlifting style training, we've done episodes on that, there's value in athletic based training, there's value in strength based
or powerlifting style training.
And that's the key here.
And what we're talking about right now
is the value in training like an athlete.
And in that value will carry over
and I don't care what your goal is,
it's gonna carry over and it's gonna make you,
even if you just care about how you look,
training this way will make you look better
versus never training like this.
Oh, 100%.
But there still is an order of an operation.
Like your point with bodybuilding.
How many people, and I know we're talking about sports performance
type of training today, but when you look at it,
the people make the same mistake in the bodybuilding community.
You see your favorite bodybuilder in a magazine,
and you see his workouts workouts and you go do that
And just because you want to be like one or aspire to be like one you you skip all the other things that you should do before
Getting into that routine and you'd be far better and you'll get more results faster if you follow the right order of operation
There's nothing no difference in training like an athlete if you want to train like an athlete and just're a week in warrior, or the average Joe, doesn't mean that you can't work towards that,
you know, being a general population where they're totally fine and a great goal to have, I think.
But they're still in order of operation. You don't just throw that person into this, you know,
what an NFL player is doing right now for training camp right away. But you could work up to that if
you really wanted to regardless of your football. But you could work up to that if you really wanted to,
regardless if you're here for a while,
but you've got to go through the right prerequisites first
and order of operation and training
to maximize your benefits
and also protect you from the highest amount of risk.
Now, the goal of training like an athlete is this,
it puts you in your body, you own your body,
you can move in different ways
and you own all that movement. It can be laterally, it can be forward, it can be up down, you own your body, you can move in different ways and you own all that movement.
It can be laterally, it can be forward, it can be up, down, you're strong, you know your
capabilities and your capacity and you can reach the maximum potential of your body whenever
you want.
So that's what it feels like when you train this way.
You feel stable, strong, secure, you move well and you can call upon your body to do lots of different things.
But this begins with the right mindset.
It's a very different mindset when you go into the gym or your garage or you work at home,
when you're training like an athlete versus just training to look a particular way.
Essentially, it's this.
You're not training for show.
You're only training for go.
Now again, remember this, when you train for go
and you accomplish a great deal of that,
the show part becomes the side effect, right?
But that's the mentality.
So when you go to the gym, rather than thinking,
I'm going to sculpt my quads like this,
or I'm going to develop this part or piece of my back,
you're going in there.
And by the way, training for go doesn't just mean strength, but that's part of it.
It doesn't just mean a speed. That's part of it, right? It's all things tied to performance.
So I can literally go to the gym and say, today, my goal is to squat better than I did before,
or squat stronger or heavier than I did before, right? It could be, I'm gonna do an overhead press
and my extension's gonna be even better.
Or normally when I do overhead carries,
I feel strained in my low back.
Today my goal is to be able to do this
and feel no strain in my low back.
That's what I mean by train for show.
You're going in there and you're trying to aim
for these objective measures
that have everything to do with performance.
Yeah, and I would even argue
that the most important, even over strength would be movement quality.
Yeah.
If you look at the highest athletes when,
they're coaches and the technology that they have
to analyze a pitcher as a pitcher throws the ball.
I mean, they're looking at, you know,
it was from what, you know, 12 o'clock to six o'clock
as his arm going, where's the ball really?
Is he internally rotating too much?
And they're not going like,
hey, throw it harder next time.
Very mechanical.
Yeah, they're not throwing harder next time.
Or do 50 more reps, they're going like,
they're adjusting like every little detail
about the movement,
knowing that that will get more out of the movement, right?
More results from that.
So the same concept is that that's the way you want
to go into these workouts. When you look at O today as squats or O today as whatever shoulder press doesn't matter what movement
we're doing, you know, less less of you worrying about looking at your shoulders. It's a lot more
intentional, you know, the approach to a lot of these movements. And again, and we kind of
throughout their practice as being like one of the best examples of approaching workouts is we get we get the opportunity to take some of these
Common exercises and practice them and get better at them specifically in terms of how I'm performing that exercise not
necessarily just
Am I able to get through the workout or am I able to load more weight?
Really, what was the quality of it? How did I feel my way through it? Where did the breakdown occur?
How can I improve that? It's just like really taking a microscope back in and looking at the quality of how everything came together inside that work out.
I remember when we wrote Maps Performance and one of the things that I would get is messages
all the time is like, how do I know what weight to choose or should I feel like I can do this
and I can go heavier if I go to, I'm like, stop worrying about that so much and make the
movement perfect.
You've got a model on video there and I'd rather see you execute that movement with absolute
perfection, no swaying to the left or right, no inability to get full extension or not
being able to reach full depth.
Like, I care more about that than you, okay, hey, next week we add five or ten more pounds
to the bar.
And so you just, like, to your mindset point, Sal, you have to go into the workout with
that.
Like, it's almost like an art.
Like you want to make this workout look so perfect.
And then it's over the amount of reps.
Yeah.
And think of it this way, right?
Exercise is all have a value.
And in order to maximize the value of an exercise to really get everything
that it can offer you, your form and technique and control has to be really good.
So you could do a barbell squat and let's say the max potential of a squat is 100 and
because your technique and form and control aren't great, you're only ever going to get
50. No matter what, no matter how much you squat, how often you squat, how much weight
you add on the squat bar, you're only going to get 50. No matter what, no matter how much you squat, how often you squat, how much weight you add on the squat bar,
you're only going to get 50.
Versus maximizing the technique, the skill,
and the control of it, where you can now maximize
the potential of that squat, which is tremendous.
So to use another example, right, if you're a boxer,
the result of your punch, or at least what you're looking for,
is to knock someone out.
So I want to be able to throw a punch
and the goal is to knock someone out. So I want to be able to throw a punch and the goal is to knock someone out.
And so you could take two boxes and one guy could just lift weights and get as strong as possible.
Never perfect throwing a punch. The other guy can practice throwing a punch.
Guess who's going to punch harder, right? Guess what the result is going to be
from the person who practiced the punch versus the guy that just lifts weights and builds muscle.
So you want to maximize what all these exercises can do
for your body, you wanna get really good at them.
And that's what we mean when we say,
don't train for show, you know, train for go.
When you're going into the gym,
this is the mindset.
I wanna do this better.
I wanna get better at the skill.
Now, what's the carryover?
Let's say, you're not looking to be an athlete all the time,
but this is something you're including in your workout routine. You're doing this for six month period or a three
month period, and then you go back to your other training. Oh my gosh, the carryover is
tremendous. It's absolutely, I don't care if you want a bodybuild later on when you maximize
now that the effectiveness of each of those exercises, you can do anyway when you go bodybuild.
Now when you go to your bodybuilding routine,
it just, you build muscles so much easier.
Yeah, I don't know that, like the parallel for me,
I always go back to musicians,
and if I was to kind of compare it to a symphony
where you have a collection of all these different instruments,
and you know, it's very beneficial to hyper focus
on one of those instruments to make sure
that the sound quality and everything is at its utmost
You know at its best versus but how does that play into the entire symphony? How does that overall sound?
You know how how's that quality and so like in terms of performance?
Look at it more as the symphony of like how all these parts are moving together in unison and what that's producing.
Yeah, so beautiful.
So let's talk about the foundational kind of physical pursuit.
We've talked about this in the past, and that really is strength.
Now, why is that called the foundational physical, well, first of all, does that mean it's
the only thing you should focus on?
No.
But when we say foundation, what we mean is generally speaking, all things being equal,
if you get stronger, the other physical pursuits tend to improve.
So if you talk about speed, if you talk about explosiveness, if you talk about stability,
even endurance, if you get stronger, all of those things tend to improve.
So this is very important thing to understand.
So one component, and I probably have to sell this the least.
I think people listening right now,
probably most people are interested in strength
as a performance metric.
But if that particular metric right there
will contribute to all the other.
So for example, a program that seems to be very specific
like a Maps Power Lift, we'll'll use that as an example, right?
Maps power lift is obviously power lift is in the name.
It's to train somebody for a power lifting meet.
Now if that's all you ever do, that's fine.
But if you use that in combination with other types of workout programs to train like an
athlete, what maps power lift will give you, for example, is this incredible base of strength.
You've got this kind of low gear,
am I gonna say strength in this context?
I mean, that low gear grinding strength
because later on we're gonna talk about other types of strength.
But if you could build your strength capacity,
squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press,
you know, those kind of movements,
you're gonna see carry over into your other,
you know, athletic pursuits.
Maybe one of the most underrated programs that we have for an athlete.
Because most athletes would think of things that are more like
explosive, dynamic, different planes.
And you think, oh my god, powerlifting is like five exercises,
sagittal plane, that's not an athlete.
Like, I don't want to do that, but to your point you're making right now,
the amount of strength that you're going to build
through that program, and that's why, you know,
the idea is that that's just part of the program.
That's a phase, right?
A part, a portion of it, we are gonna focus
purely on getting as strong as you can
in these major lifts that are then gonna carry over
into your athletic performance.
I think it's just not one of the ones
that someone would think would attribute
to a lot of their athletic performance
that I think would tremendously.
Yeah, especially when we're talking about general
athletic performance.
When I would train clients who were,
they weren't hardcore athletes.
They're not collegiate competitive athletes,
but rather they're like,
I like to run in marathons
or I like to do a triathlon or I like to do these races
on the weekend and I like to train for one.
It's really interesting, I'd get these clients
and you know, sometimes it's hard to focus on tons of metrics,
especially when they give me a short period of time,
like hey, I have 60 days, I'm gonna do this marathon,
like how can you help me improve my performance? Sometimes all I would do is I'll just get them stronger at a squat like all right
We're just gonna get just right and then next you know, I remember one lady in particular
She was really into marathon. She liked to do two or three a year
This was her thing. She didn't she never really did proper resistance training
She hired me as a referral. She gave me 60 days
She was gonna do the New York marathon, which is a big one
And she said I want to get faster. I've been stuck at this time and I just like I wait I go around this time
It's like I don't I can't really beat it all I did was get her stronger at squats
That's I mean that was the main thing I focused on squats and deadlifts and she shaved a tremendous amount of time
Offer for run and she couldn't believe that strength would do that like well, of course you're gonna fatigue far
It's gonna take you much longer to fatigue when you're really strong especially when you start out the race
So made a big difference and I know like I'm probably the one that that refers to generating force the most
Because like you know in biomechanics. This is something like they talk about a lot about how can I
Improve my ability to generate more force. It's all related to strength
Mm-hmm. And strength is that that that building block how can I improve my ability to generate more forces, all related to strength.
And strength is that, that building block
that you need, that's the very first element
that you need to then push you towards maximizing
all of their pursuits.
Now, that being said, it's a part of this training routine.
You do not wanna get stuck in this one dimension, right?
The sagittal plane of always training.
We're just strength.
Yeah, because then it could be detrimental, right?
So there's ways to use this to where it'll add
tremendous value, and then there's ways where this could set you
back if you get stuck training like this.
So it's very important that we also express your body
in different planes of motion too.
Very important.
The best athletes in the world are not one dimensional,
especially when you consider, what was that show on Netflix
that you kept talking about Adam and then I finally watched
the episode about Caitlyn Jenner.
Oh yeah, untold stories.
Untold stories.
So I highly recommend it.
It's on Netflix and it's the story of Caitlyn Jenner.
And she goes back to when she she was Bruce Jenner and
She was the gold she wins the gold medal in the de-Cathalon in the Olympics and we beat the Soviet Union's great story
You know Bruce Jenner at the time was like this huge American here, and there's all these home videos of Bruce Jenner
Doing back flips, you know
You know skiing with on one foot, you know water skiing on one foot, water skiing on one foot, riding a bike lifting weights.
One thing you noticed about Bruce Jenner was he was just like super well-rounded, almost
looked like he could do anything.
He was not one-dimensional at all.
There were so many dimensions to his athletic performance.
Of course, if you look at the de-Cathalon competition, it doesn't incorporate strength, power,
endurance, that kind of stuff all in one.
So when we're talking about not being one-dimensional literally, it means you want your body to be able to perform in many different ways.
Speed, endurance, you want to have that athleticism to move in different directions and be stable, right?
So if you're one-dimensional strength, you know, you take someone that only does powerlifting,
you get them to try to move fast laterally
and they'll hurt themselves.
You just throw a ball.
Yeah, well even then you get super specialized and focused.
You're gonna get really good at that quickly
and that's gonna be something that you hone in on,
but at the same time there's a limitation to that.
And in terms of how I've heard it describe something that you hone in on, but at the same time, there's a limitation to that.
And in terms of how I've heard it described
from a lot of world class strength coaches,
the exposure to a lot more variables
allows your body to adapt and react to them
and become a better athlete,
like for a longer period of time,
versus getting really, really good,
but with few variables involved.
Yeah, I mean, so like, for example, maps performance,
when we created that program,
one big component of it was proprioceptive ability
and to be able to move in different planes of motion.
So you had exercises that were more traditional,
like your squats and your presses,
but you had exercises that incorporated lots of rotation, lots of lateral movement,
Contrilateral movement, bilateral movements, and bilateral, I mean, one leg or one arm at a time,
contralateral meaning, you know, the opposite arm, opposite leg, and movements that combined
a few of these different things, right? So, what do you get from doing that? You get a body that
communicates very well with itself
and you're in your body.
So think about this for a second.
Think about the exercises that you're really good at
that you practice all the time.
Then think of doing something that you never practice.
All of a sudden you suck.
All of a sudden it's like you're in your body
when you do the thing that you practice all the time.
Then you do this other thing that you never train.
This happened to me a couple months ago.
I went to go do some lateral leg, excuse me, sled drag.
So I went to go drag the sled laterally.
And I was like tripping over my feet.
I had to have Justin kind of help me with that technique.
I was like a baby deer, you know, just being born.
I don't know how to do this.
It's unfamiliar, yeah.
Totally unfamiliar because I was not privy
in this particular dimension.
Now what are the visual effects
of being multi-dimensional
with your, being able to express your athletic ability?
A very balanced, symmetrical physique.
Think of the muscles that you don't develop
because you don't move in a particular way, right?
Think of the muscles that get neglected
because you don't rotate in a particular way.
It's all those areas start to get developed and you start to get this really nice, kind
of balanced physique.
Now also think about this.
If let's say you're somebody that's stuck at a particular exercise and you're like,
ah, my deadlifts have been stuck at this weight forever or for whatever reason I've never
been able to bench press more than this.
What may be preventing you from moving forward is all the stuff that I'm talking about. Your body naturally has these safeguards that are in you
that will stop your body from generating more force,
lifting more weight, or progressing any more forward
because it detects risk of injury.
You can only throw a ball as fast as your body
thinks you can handle, essentially.
You can only lift as much as your body thinks you can handle essentially. You can only lift as much as your body thinks you can handle.
And maybe the reason why you can't is because you're so one dimensional.
You lack that lateral stability and you go for a heavy squat and your body's like, this
is about as much as we're going to allow you to lift because if you shift to the side,
you're going to hurt yourself.
Do you think the benefits of training this way is more neuromuscular than it is actually muscular?
Do you think that like the communication part of all this is as far as it's carry over into athletic performance?
Dude huge. I'll give you a huge I'm not gonna call anybody out
But there's a person that we know we're friends with very muscular extremely strong person and they posted a video
And then do a lunch. Yes, now this person,
again, I don't want to call them out because I think they're incredible for their specific sport
and credible athlete, but this person could squat world record weights and they went to do some
lunges, which is a split stance exercise, right? And you could see, I mean, they were using a weight
that, you know, I could lift, which, and I'm nowhere near as strong as this person, and you could see, I mean, they were using a weight that, you know, I could lift, which, and I'm nowhere near as strong as this person,
and you could see the instability
because they don't have the neuromuscular connection.
They have the muscle, the muscle's there, right?
But they don't, they can't turn it on,
they can't control it.
And I think that's the important point,
because people, you know, obviously,
general population people are hearing words like,
bilateral, you know, bilateral,
control lateral, and they're going, okay, what's all,
and you're saying opposite arm, opposite leg, moving so in and they're going, okay, what's all, and you're saying opposite arm,
opposite leg moving,
so they're going, okay,
well, what's the point?
Why wouldn't I just train that leg,
train that arm, train that leg,
train that arm?
Like, why am I doing these opposite things?
And I think that-
Well, here, can you,
can you,
can you pat your head by yourself?
Yeah.
Can you rub your tummy in a circle by itself?
Yeah.
Do both at the same time.
All of a sudden, it's like really weird. We've all done that in school. It's very valuable
Yeah, it's because it's doing a few things at the same time requires a different level of
neuromuscular communication and control and
Training and multi-dimensions is what creates this is what this is such an important attribute
When moving or are being like an athlete, right?
Athletics is so reactive and it is so dimensional
and you have to be able to get the entire body.
I mean, if you're running on a soccer field
and you're running for the ball
and all of a sudden someone kicks at the opposite direction,
the ability for you to cut and go back the other direction.
I mean, that is a lot of that is the communication
of your brain to all these different limbs,
to all coordinate with each other,
to your symphony part, or analogy,
to go back the other direction super fast.
You could have the strongest leg in the world
and you're not gonna be able to do that.
You knew to be able to rotate,
while simultaneously
Anti-rotating, you know your lower half of your body or you know vice versa or
allow for you know more
Fluid movements so that way I could propel a baseball
While the rest of my body is super tight and rigid and so so it's just, it sounds very complicated.
I mean, our bodies are complicated.
At the end of the day, there's a lot of tasks
that we're asking our body to produce at once.
And, you know, to oversimplify it is difficult,
but there is a way to be able to simplify this down
to what are those elements involved in improving performance
of the overall body?
Well, this is how you know when you have a good coach, too, that it is considering all
these things when writing a program.
I've seen trainers before write programs for athletes and it's just a bunch of plyometric
work.
It's just a bunch of explosives.
One dimension.
Yeah. Circuit training type of stuff that they think,
oh, because they need a gas tank, they need to build strength.
Let's combine all these strength exercises in a circuit.
That's athletic training.
That's how I think a lot of, there's a lot of athletes
that were adopting in schools that were adopting CrossFit.
You know, think that this is the best thing for these athletes
because they're getting strong and they're working
on dirt at the same time.
By the way, you're literally doing another sport
to get good at your sport.
That's what that is.
Crossfit is a sport.
No, you're right.
So I'm gonna train, it's like I wanna get better
at football so I'm gonna go play soccer.
Will I get some benefit a little bit?
But I'd be better off if I trained my body for football.
That's what they were doing when they were doing
cross-sensitivity.
I'm gonna follow another sport.
I'll give you my personal experience with this
because I personally have no interest
in playing traditional sports.
I really could care less.
If I go to the park,
I rarely ever will take a baseball or a football
to park when I go with my kids.
We'll do other things.
I could really care less,
but here's where I get the benefits.
So I love traditional resistance training exercises.
I love squatting, I love deadlifting,
I love pressing and rowing.
And sometimes I get so caught up in these lifts
that I neglect other dimensions.
And every once in a while I have to remind myself,
like, oh yeah, I should probably focus on that a little bit.
And sometimes the reminder is pain,
other times it's a really hard plateau.
But more recently, I'd say probably over the last,
well, not now, because now I've kind of taken care of it,
but about a year ago, it was pain.
I would squat heavy and deadlift heavy,
and it just, my SI joint on my low back
would kind of bother me a little bit,
I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on.
And so I said, you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna do all split stance lateral exercises,
and I'm gonna throw in some lateral stuff,
and I'm only gonna do that for a little while
and see what happens.
First off, my body started to look better.
I actually started to develop more balance
in the way my body looked.
And then about six months later,
when I went back to my bilateral exercises,
my legs are together, my arms are together,
more traditional exercises, I found out I was stronger.
This was great, I could squat and I'm like,
oh my gosh, I feel so stable in my squat,
my body's developing really well. So that's the carryover for somebody who really could care
less about playing sports just wants to look good. Believe me, this will make you look better if
you focus on that. Well, now you're kind of alluding to the next point, which is addressing weak
links. So I think that's another thing that's really important
as far as prerequisites before we start training
explosive movements.
If you have somebody who's got this excessive internal
rotation of the hip on your left side,
but the right side's completely normal,
and then you ask that person to explosive jump boxes,
what you're asking for is a potential injury.
At the bare minimum, even if they don't get injured,
they're not gonna get the most out of that movement, and're not going to be able to train to be like an athlete
If they're performing that way so you first then have to unpack what's going on with the movement
This disconnect. Yes, right and then address the weak link so everything is firing properly
And we're hitting the most out of all those muscles. By the way the term weak link
I know we throw that around a lot and people kind of know what it means
But here's what it is where it came from, right?
Think of a chain and think of a chain
that is towing something really heavy.
That entire chain is only as strong
as the weakest link on there.
It's not as strong as the strongest.
It's as strong as the weakest.
If that link breaks, it doesn't matter
that the other links can handle way more weight.
It makes no difference.
The chain broke, it's no longer functional.
This is what we mean by taking care of weak links.
So your performance could be an oftentimes,
I don't wanna say it could be,
I'll say oftentimes, if not most of the time,
your performance is not hindered
by your inability to generate maximum force
or your big muscles can't do.
No, no, it's usually something else
that is getting in the way.
Like, you know, your bench press isn't going up.
Not because your chest isn't big enough
or your shoulders and triceps aren't big enough,
but maybe because the stabilizers in your shoulders
can't support that weight.
So you get your chest as big as you want,
it ain't gonna allow you to lift more.
A lot of times, you know, your average gym person loses a side of that
because it's fun because you see numbers going up and you're getting better at
certain lifts and everything's going great muscularily.
However, you're still getting aches, you're still getting pains, you know,
that they're, you sort of hit a wall in a plateau,
a lot of times with some of these lifts
and you're just wondering why.
But when you get back into the performance side
and you start focusing on the movement,
it really reveals itself as far as any restriction
or pain or something that's not contributing properly,
that's the weak link.
That's what we need to really focus on
to then go back and then propel those lists even more.
And this was really the inspiration behind Maps Prime.
I mean, and we've talked a bunch on the show
about this being our personal favorite
because I think it took the most skill for us to do that.
It's like, okay, how do we take a program
that someone who wants to train like an athlete can take it and apply it to the routine.
Somebody who wants to lose 30 pounds of fat, take it and apply it to the routine. How does somebody wants to build 15 pounds of muscle?
How do we address weak links in everybody? Yeah, exactly. How do we address weak links in every single person and then give them something that would complement any routine they would possibly do.
And then also yet individualize it for everybody so they could
figure that out.
That's really the beauty of prime.
If you haven't gone to the free webinar that Justin did, it's absolutely free.
He takes you through the three zones that we do in Maps, Primes, you can get an idea.
The idea of this is that you go through the test, you figure out what your weak links are,
you get the exercises that are supposed to address that and help that,
and that you build that into your routine.
So that becomes a part of your routine as you're going through that,
regardless if you're training like an athlete or somebody who just wants to lose weight.
Yeah, no, and you know, it's funny, of all the pro,
it's the one we're most proud of, right?
It's also the least sexy, right?
So when I talk about any other workout
program, it's like build muscle, boost your metabolism, burn body fat, get stronger, get
faster, what's maps prime do? It solves your weak links, help you with mobility and everybody's
like, whatever, you know what's funny? By far, it's the program that gives us the most
positive comments. By far, and here's the part that's the most, I think, revealing.
It comes from bodybuilders, strongmen, power lifters, we have endurance athletes, we have
specific athletes, fitness, Crossfitters.
It's the one where you know, maps, you know, one of our bodybuilding programs, like maps
aesthetic or something.
I'm going to get a lot of people interested in bodybuilding who are going to comment on
that.
Maps prime, I get people from everywhere
telling us that they couldn't believe
how big of an impact it has
and add on their particular goals.
Week links get in the way of performance, movement,
they cause injury, they increase your risk of injury,
and they get in the way of you developing the body
that you want, I'm telling you right now,
in fact, lagging bodies are full potential. Another word for week links, by the way of you developing the body that you want. I'm telling you right now, you know, in fact, lagging bodies are your full potential. Yeah. Another word for weak links, by the way,
can also be lagging body parts. Like, you may think to yourself, like, oh, man, I really want to
develop my butt or really want my hamstrings to look better because my quads overpower them.
Like, what you're actually probably looking at is a form of a weak link. You're looking at
probably a muscle you have poor connection over. And if you really wanna get those muscles to catch up,
the first step is to not make it a weak link anymore,
get your body to communicate to it properly
so you could fire that muscle the way you want
so it could develop.
So this is where again, when we created Maps Prime,
that was the goal.
And like Adam said, it's literally something
you can add to any program.
So it doesn't matter what your goal is, you do this kind of exercises or these kind of
training on top of it and you'll see better results.
Now the next part, and this is also very important, especially for athletics, is to have a bit
of a gas tank, right?
Most athletic performance requires you to repeat your performance, right?
You need to be able to repeat what you just did, you know, a minute ago,
or maybe continuously repeat it, right?
It's not just one time and then you're done.
Although some sports like that most or not like that, a bigger cast tank literally means
you can repeat your max performance again.
So it's like you exert yourself, you deplete the gas and it comes back.
It's really about how quickly you can recover. I mean, that's what separates some of the best
athletes in the world from just your average athletes is their incredible ability to not only perform
at that highest peak performance, but to be able to replicate that very quickly right after
that and have that type of gas tank and endurance within the allotted amount of time of the
game.
So, you know, this is a very important factor when thinking about athletes.
Now, I'm going to tie this back to the very first point, which was the mindset one, too,
because this becomes really important here.
Like a lot of people understand like,
of course, if you're an athlete, you need to build stamina.
Of course, that's why people gravitated towards things
like CrossFit because it builds tremendous stamina on it.
But the general population that tries to train
like an athlete that hears that or tries to apply that,
where they miss is the breakdown in form over,
I'm just trying to build my thing.
It's all about fatigue.
That's right.
And so I wanna caution anybody that is listening right now
that when you hear that,
and let's say you're going through like a performance,
mass performance actually has a portion of it
that is endurance-based, right?
So to build your stamina.
So the final phase is a lot of this.
But I would be happier to see a client
who maybe didn't increase their speed on the treadmill
or get it something done faster.
I would rather see them perform it under fatigue
with beautiful form still.
So when that breaks down,
that's where you gotta learn to kind of shut down.
Is that makes sense?
Because-
Yeah, well this goes back to our original point in the beginning where you know, we're
trying to focus more on the intention and the quality of the movement, not just getting
through the workout, not just getting through the reps.
It really is that it's utmost importance to understand where that breakdown occurs.
And that's when the quality of your form breaks down.
Well, okay, here's the bottom line.
If it's just about fatigue,
it doesn't matter what exercises you do.
I hate to break it to you.
You don't need fancy exercises.
You could do jumping jacks,
and it will give you the same benefits
as you doing shitty form on six other exercises.
It doesn't matter what you do
if your technique and form is out the window, okay? But if your technique and form is good, now you're going to reap tremendous benefits from training to get a better gas tank.
Now it makes sense why you would do a lunge in this particular movement, why you would do a press, why you would do something that included some rotation or some kind of a split stance squat.
Now it makes sense, but if it's just about fatigue and form is out the window, I've seen so many trainers do this in gyms,
I see them taking through their clients through.
And by the way, this is how high-intensity interval training
got bastardized.
Here's what happened, okay?
High-intensity interval training originated
as a form of athletic training to improve stamina
and improve form and technique under fatigue.
This is how it got invented.
Now how it got bastardized is a study came out
that showed that it was a great fat burner.
So next thing you know, everybody's like,
cool, I'm just gonna do this to burn body fat
and I'm just gonna, and the goal is just to sweat
and get as tired as possible.
Easy fat burning.
And hit training became garbage.
It absolutely became garbage.
Nobody does it right.
It's a waste of time.
You might as well, again,
you don't need your trainer to do this.
Just go out home and run in place. You'll get the same benefits. Real high-intensity interval training,
real hit training, it combines the right exercises. So programming matters.
Use his resistance as a way to augment. It's not just about moving around in circles and doing a
bunch of activity, but rather incorporating some kind of strength training into this because you
want to have strength while you build this gas tank.
And there's an emphasis on form and technique,
which means although the goal is to push that capacity,
it's also to rest when appropriate,
because when form goes out the window, you're done.
Stop for a second and let's try again.
I have a visual that comes in mind
that I saw not that long ago with my my nephews basketball team and they're
The desired outcome right of this this exercise that's doing is to get the kids to learn to get in that perfect defensive stance
So they're down in like this 90 degree like you know
Ben at 90 degree and sitting in a defensive stance
But and then they have to throw the ball back and forth the coaches are going back and forth and
They're doing it for time and the problem with that is they're focused on the time and getting the kids to throw the ball back and for the coaches, they're going back and forth. And they're doing it for time.
And the problem with that is they're focused on the time
and getting the kids to do that
and they're working on pushing them through fatigue.
But what you notice starts to happen is about 15 seconds in,
the kids are starting to round their back,
their asses start coming up,
but they're still doing the exercise.
It doesn't matter.
It now defeats the purpose of why they are putting the,
you're trying reinforcing bad times.
That's right.
You're trying to train these kids to sit comfortably
in this defensive stance.
Their legs are probably burning like crazy.
And as soon as they break that,
the exercise needs to be over.
So that's what you're going to teach passing
from a bad position, you're wasting your time.
And that's exactly what you're doing
by pushing through that.
And that's the same thing that happens
when you go in, you train these exercises.
As soon as you start to break down form,
but you keep pushing through in pursuit
of building your gas tanker stamina,
you defeat the purpose of that movement.
You take it to that fatigue or exhaustion,
and where that fatigue or exhaustion sets in,
is the breakdown of form, not when you can't move anymore.
And I think there is a lot of people that don't grasp that.
You see a lot of coaches.
Big misconception around that.
Big time.
Training your body wrong is not great.
It's not great to train your body really wrong.
So it's really important to do it right,
even if you're training to improve your stamina,
which requires that you push into some fatigue,
that you feel some of that burn,
that you're gonna be a little bit gassed out.
Even if you do that, you still need to put place
an emphasis on technique and form,
and you still need to have proper exercise programming.
If anything, I'll even make the argument
that that kind of training, that high intensity interval training
requires more special emphasis on programming
than other kinds of workouts,
because you get away with less. You get away with less, you have a smaller, training requires more special emphasis on programming than other kinds of workouts because
you get away with less, you get away with less, you have a smaller margin of error when you're
doing hit training than you do oftentimes with other types of training.
Well, there's a reason why it was one of the last programs we developed.
100%.
Wow, it's why it's the only program that has a warning on it is because of that.
And we know how popular it is, too.
And it came out with that. It we know how popular it is too. And it came out with that.
It was a number, it still is.
I think it still holds the record for a launch.
Our marketing team would have loved
to have had us release it sooner,
but we didn't want to.
No, we want to prerequisite first.
Yeah, we knew it would sell more,
but it was like that we have to teach the audience
how to train their body properly
before we just throw them at the routine
that everybody wants to do.
And that's the unfortunate part.
And we can't control every single person that bought and followed that program, but the
truth is, I know for sure there's people that bought that program and we're doing it
and not following all these things that we're saying right now.
And that's just important.
Now here's a wonderful side effect of hit training.
So I'm going to sell it a little bit.
It does burn a lot of body fat.
In a short period of time, it's an incredible fat burner.
But only is effective in that way if you do it the way we're talking.
Otherwise, again, it really doesn't matter what exercises you do.
All right, lastly, let's talk about the ultimate expression
of physical performance, right?
This is what makes athletic, sports athletic.
This is the athletic part of it, right?
Explosive.
Is fast strength, explosive strength.
Now, why is that the ultimate expression?
Because it requires ultimate control.
It's one thing to move with the maximal force slowly.
That takes some skill and you definitely don't want to hurt yourself.
But now do it as fast as you can.
You better control the movement because that's where shit happens.
But that's also, again, the ultimate expression of athleticism. If you're strong and fast, what was that
quote? I think it might have been, what was Mike Tyson's first coach, Damado or other
members name. I think he said fast and strong equals dangerous. Like if you're fast and strong,
oh boy, now you got to watch out. Now what's
the benefit to the average person listening to get fast and strong? You're dangerous.
Oh yeah, your everyday life is okay to be dangerous. It's a good attribute.
You are dangerous, but also everyday life becomes risk free. Think about that, right? You're
walking on the street, oh your foot goes off the curb, you're okay. Your kid falls, got
a catch, it was happening the other day. In fact, my son was playing on the couch
and I was watching him and dad instincts kick in.
My wife watched it, which was great,
because I got to show off a little bit.
He goes and he almost falls headfirst off the couch
and I boom with one hand caught him.
I mean, that right there,
those kinds of things in every day, life.
Oh, it prepares you for those variables
that inevitably are gonna come your way.
That's just it, like you're gonna slip in the shower. You're going to reach back really quickly.
Anytime something that has some kind of emergency involved in it, it's going to be super fast
and you want to make sure that you don't just rip your arm out of socket.
If you don't train this, you lose this.
I totally believe in listening to the podcast long enough,
you heard me share this.
He was last year, maybe a little bit before last year
when I talked about this.
And it was just simply because I had not had a lot of explosive
training in my routine for a long time.
I consider myself a week in warrior type athlete,
so I'm pretty athletic and can do this stuff.
And I remember jumping out of the back of my truck,
just second nature,
because I've done that a thousand times before.
But I hadn't done that in a really long time,
nor had I trained anything explosive.
And I have the leg strength.
I was squatting 400 pounds or so around that time.
And I jumped out and I thought my knees were going to explode
when I landed on the ground.
And it scared me for a minute.
And what scared me about it was that,
wow, this is something that I just naturally reacted
and did because I thought I could do it.
Because you remember, I was about the work.
Exactly.
But because I stopped training that ability
for my body to be expressed that way,
it definitely caught me off guard.
And then what did I do the very next day in the gym?
I was training those movements again.
Also, I mean, the top two reasons why people work out anyway, right?
Number one, you want to look good.
That's the most common, for sure.
But the second one is you want to feel good.
And I'm going to tell you something right now, there's been times in my life, like when
I was very heavy into judo and wrestling, where I was doing lots of explosive training.
Okay.
I, that's the best I ever felt my entire life, just in everyday life.
When you're moving and walking and doing stuff,
and you've got that capability to be explosive,
I don't need to be explosive, but everything else is easy.
That's like super effortless, and I feel like I can just jump
out of my clothes if I want at any moment,
because I have that speed.
All that restless energy I've found is just gone.
You know, towards the end of the day too, I sleep better.
Sometimes, you know, just expressing your body at that type of capacity.
It just really does.
It calms you down.
Totally.
So, the value of training like an athlete is tremendous for anybody, regardless of what
your goals are.
Now, here's what we did with this particular episode because we named so many of our programs.
And if you got each of them individually, I think we named Maps Prime.
We named Maps Power Lift, Maps Performance, Maps Hit. programs and if you got each of them individually, I think we name maps prime, we named maps power
lift, maps performance, maps hit.
If you got all those individually, you're looking at, I don't know, $600 or $500 or something
like that.
So here's what we did.
We actually put them together just for this episode.
So this is not something that we do ever.
This is just specifically for this particular episode in what's called the extreme athlete
bundle.
So what you get is lifetime access to maps prime,
maps power lift, maps performance, maps it.
This is how much you get them all for, okay?
One payment of 149.99.
So it's a huge, huge discount
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And again, you get lifetime access.
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