Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1646: How to Pump Up Muscles Before a Photoshoot, the Myth of Being Muscle-Bound, the Dangers of Supplement Dependency & More

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best way to get a pump for a photoshoot, whether lifting reduces flexibility if you can become dependent on supplements such as multivitamins, and how to combine the MAPS Prime exercises to create a daily routine that will rapidly increase mobility in all joints. When is the best time to bulk? (4:19) The Colorado Experiment, one of the most hotly contested studies of all time. (10:26) Is there a link between Aspirin and Erectile Dysfunction? (21:50) Sex Education with Mind Pump. (26:07) Mind Pump Recommends, The Order of Man podcast. (37:35) The association between cancer and sodium is not what you think. (39:35) Fun Facts with Justin: Tolosa, the city of the future? (42:45) Mind Pump speculates on the housing market bubble. (47:39) #Quah question #1 – What is the best way to get a pump for a photoshoot? (53:15) #Quah question #2 – Does lifting reduce flexibility? (59:50) #Quah question #3 – Can you become dependent on supplements, such as multivitamins, or is that a myth? (1:04:06) #Quah question #4 – How can I combine the MAPS Prime exercises to create a daily routine that will rapidly increase mobility in all joints? (1:09:29) Related Links/Products Mentioned September Promotion: MAPS Performance and MAPS Suspension 50% off!   **Promo code “SEPTEMBER50” at checkout** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Mind Pump #1640: Five Steps To Build Muscle Without Adding Fat The Colorado Experiment: Fact or Fiction - T NATION Mike Mentzer Heavy Duty Antiplatelet (aspirin) therapy as a new option in the treatment of vasculogenic erectile dysfunction: a prospective randomized double-blind placebo-controlled study Efficacy and safety of combination of tadalafil and aspirin versus tadalafil or aspirin alone in patients with vascular erectile dysfunction: a comparative randomized prospective study Sex Education | Netflix Official Site Order of Man High-salt diet mediates interplay between NK cells and gut microbiota to induce potent tumor immunity Plans for $400-billion new city in the American desert unveiled Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1627: Eight Stupid & Dangerous Fitness Lies MAPS Fitness Prime | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned More Plates More Dates - YouTube Ryan Michler (@ryanmichler)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. So today's episode, we answered fitness and health questions that were asked by our audience. But the way we opened the episode is with a 49 minute intro. So today's intro is 49 minutes long.

We did current events. We brought in some scientific studies. We had some fun conversation. We mentioned some of our sponsors. After that, we got to the question. So here's what went down in today's episode. We opened up by talking about the best part of a bulk. Oh, it's fun to bulk sometimes. So we talked about the best part of a bulk. Oh, it's fun to bulk sometimes.

So we talked about the best time of bulking, which led us to talking about organify because I've been using their plant-based protein. I can't have dairy. It bothers my tummy. So I use organifies chocolate plant-based protein. Great amino acid profile. Great for hitting my protein targets. By the way, organify has lots of plant-based supplements, not just protein

powders. Go check them out. Head over to organifi.com. That's or g-a-n-i-f-i.com forward slash mine pump, get 20% off all of their products with the code, mind pump. Then we talked about the Colorado experiment, one of the most controversial body building studies ever done. This was done back in the 70 experiment, one of the most controversial bodybuilding studies ever done. This was done back in the 70s and it's crazy. It's hard to believe the results that they got. Then we talked about aspirin and viagra.

There's a lot in common, no joke between those two compounds. Boy, are you all right? Then we talked about sex education and how things were when we were kids. Good fun stories there. I think we revealed a little too much, Justin, I don't know. I think we did. Then we talked about one of our favorite other podcasts, Order of Man, they are interviewing Ben Shapiro.

So that's gonna be really cool. Ryan Mitchell, our great host, great podcast. Go check them out. They're really, really good, fun, fun podcast. Then we talked about the association between sodium and cancer. It's not what you think, doesn't cause cancer. It might actually prevent cancer.

Uh-oh, looks like they were wrong about sodium again. Then we talked about the city of Tulosa and equitism. We talked a little about equitism. What does that mean? I know, it's stupid. It's a new word. Look it up. It's just as dumb as it sounds.

Then we talked about home prices and how crazy they're getting. And we speculated, are they going up? We're down, we're fitness guys, but we think we know. Then we got to the questions, here's the first one. This person wants to know the best way to get a pump before a photo shoot, actually you can apply this to anything when you have your shirt off or on a bikini. You want to get a pump before you go to the beach,

you want to get a pump before you show up at your friends house. We give you tips. Little pump and dump. The next question was, does lifting reduce flexibility? you go to the beach, you wanna get a pump before you show up at your friends house, we give you tips. Little, little pumpin' down. The next question was, does lifting reduce flexibility? That's actually a myth and we explain why. The next one, can you become dependent on supplements? So we had a good discussion there. And then the final question, this person wants to know

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Go do it now. Do a good one. You know what the best time of a bulk is? Like the best period of bulking is? The best period of bulking is. The best period of bulking. Yeah, like the very beginning. Always. Yeah, of course.

Like as soon as you start, you don't get fatter. You just get bigger and stronger. Yeah, yeah. And then after a little while, I feel my workouts. Yes, that's what I'm doing. I'm trying, I'm pushing Cal, and I always mess up when I try to push calories

because if I push too hard, it starts to mess up my gut health and then forget it, right? But lately it's been feeling really good. So I'm pushing calories. That's why you guys are sitting me eating more and all stuff. And I'm in the first week of it. And I'm just feeling better pumps and stronger. Same leanness.

I'm, let's see what happens after a few weeks. That's when I start. So you're the big intuitive guy. So are you tracking or no? Oh, no, I'm not. I'm just eating more. And I scream less than I. Sounds like my jam, right?

No, you know, no, I'm not tracking because honestly it takes a lot of time and effort right now. And I'm not so like tied to bulking that, like I'm okay with like after a couple weeks, you know, reversing out of it. If I was like really like serious about it, like I want to gain X amount of pounds of lean body mass or had a specific goal, then I probably did you see that we had questions on the forum about when we talked about the bulking like four I said it four weeks four weeks on the bulk one week off. Oh

you didn't see that? Yeah, people were just asking like an example. And so I gave somebody like a generic answer, right? Because obviously I don't know what you're, I said, if pretend your Clark maintenance is 2500 calories, for four weeks, what I would do is eat at 3000 calories a day. And then at the end of that three weeks, for a one week, I would drop you down two or three hundred calories a day.

So from your maintenance, so I'd drop you down to 22 to 2300 calories for one weeks that you'd live in a deficit. And then when you go back to your bulk, hopefully you can get up to like 3,200 calories. So each time you go back to the bulk from the cut, hopefully being able to reintroduce a little bit more calories and just kind of playing with that.

Okay, so now that we're talking about this, I'm not tracking, but here's what I've added to what I normally eat. I generally eat the same stuff most days or the same types of stuff most days. Just to create your habits really easy, right? So my normal post workout shake, so after I work out in the morning, I'll have a shake that I make, which usually consists of about eight egg yolks in water, and then I'll have some fish oil with that and stuff like that. Now what I've done is I've added,

mmm, delicious. I've added one and a half scoops of organifi protein powder. Okay, so that's extra. So you're going one and a half scoops of organifi- That's about 38. How many eggs are protein? How many eggs, yeah, from just that. Right, so that's extra. So you're going one and a half scoops of organic five. It's about thirty eight. How many eight? Yeah, from just that. Right. Just that. So it's an additional thirty grams of protein that I normally don't eat. Maybe a little more. Maybe a little more. I'm also normally my post workout shake is just the eight yolks and that's it. But I've done that. Plus you've seen me now add three rice cakes to that. That sounds so weak, right?

Rice cakes. I have three rice cakes. But that's like 60 grams of carbs. Yeah, right and then after dinner I will have a small snack which usually Probably is around another three-year calories. So I'm probably over bulking six or seven hundred calories Yeah, I probably don't know. I mean you got a good amount of lean body mass right now on you I don't thank you. I feel like You don't know. I mean, you got a good amount of lean body mass right now on you. I don't thank you. I feel like You don't tell me that enough. Yeah, listen, this is what we are really what he was doing there right fishing for a couple of I got it. You got that on camera. Yeah, good happened. Good about a lean body man. Yeah, I feel like Personally for myself I feel like I have to eat

in more of a surplus to gain and I don't have to do in more of a surplus to gain and I don't have to do that dramatic of a cut to lean in. Oh, same thing. And I don't know, I mean, that might be our genetics and I'm sure that there's somebody listening that the opposite is true, they probably go, oh my God, I barely had any calories and I gain weight but I got a cut like crazy.

Yeah, I'm like you, same thing. If I drop my calories, like, if I'm at maintenance and I'm maintaining, and I'll, this is what I'll do, I'll be like, okay, I'm not gonna have as much rice for dinner. Oh, that's a good, I'm glad you just brought that up because we should address this for the YouTube fools. There was always a couple people in there that wanna come up.

No, did you see, I thought maybe I saw you comment, I know I commented on it. There was maybe two or three people on one of the last ones that, you know, the one where we did, it's on the white rice. No one where we did, white rice? No, no, no, about gaining muscle without putting any body fat on. Oh, God.

And they are trying to say that, it's totally possible. Right, and I said, Don't listen to Greg, you said, right, so I love it. Yeah, I love it. I love it from that too. Yeah, that's a very odd theory.

He has a crazyology degree, I love that one. Yeah, it's so good. Okay, here's the deal. Is it possible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time? Yes. Just like it's possible for me to dig a pool with a spoon. Is it likely? No, it's very unlikely.

Everything that we communicate on the podcast is based off of. Well, we made that clear too, right? We've given examples of where it is actually very normal and not hard. If you, if I get a client who's either never trained or hasn't trained in years, you always see that. Yeah. And they want to lose, you know, 50 pounds of body fat or more, I can put them on a calorie deficit and cut and they will build muscle. But there's a lot going on. So it depends on who I'm talking to on how I address it. When we're giving general advice, especially to an audience that listens to a fitness podcast, I'm going to assume most of you

either already work out or pretty damn interested in it or have in the past or recently worked out. So the advice to that person is, you're gonna be far better off moving your calories in a surplus if you're trying to bulk in and in a deficit. It doesn't mean that you can't be in this maintenance and do kind of both. I think, and I also think that takes a lot of discipline

on many levels, your discipline on how you eat and train, but even like the mental discipline of not letting the scale and the mirror mess with your head, which when I think of the average person that I train, that's a challenge for most people. More than a challenge, it's very, very challenging. Oh, so speaking of which, I think of the average person that I trained, that's a challenge for most people. More than a challenge. It's very, very challenging. Oh, so speaking of which, I've brought this up on the podcast before.

You guys remember when I've talked about the Colorado experiment with the Arthur Jones? And so, did you post it in the forum? I posted in the forum about that. And talking about building muscle and burning body fat, this is a documented example of absurdity. And when I say absurdity, I don't mean that this didn't happen. Casey Vieter, is that right? Casey Vieter was the guy that was in. There was actually more than him.

There were actually several people in the study. But Casey Vieter is the one that they highlight because he was a pro bodybuilder. He's the youngest person ever to win Mr. America, which at the time that was a big bodybuilder. He's the youngest person ever to win Mr. America, which at the time that was a big bodybuilding contest. Widenly believed to be one of the most gifted bodybuilders of all time turns of just being able to build muscle, right? And this study, till this day,

is one of the most hotly contested studies of all time. It was done at a university, there were witnesses and pictures, but the results, if you look this up, if you read the results, you think this is absolutely impossible. Now, I didn't reread that study. We've talked about it many times and I'm less familiar than you are, and I don't have this incredible photographic memory like you. Do they take into consideration that he's probably taking antibiotics or is there proof that he did or didn't too?

Because that plays a huge role in that. It does. According to the study, he did not take any antibiotics. Now, back in those days, antibiotic steroid use among bodybuilders was very low, and it was seasonal at most. Nobody was on him year-round. So, is it believable that he didn't take steroids?

Yes. Does it matter? Not when I read you these statistics. When I tell you the statistics, I don't give a shit what you take. It sounds absolutely insane. Here's the factor that I think plays the biggest role in going into the study.

He was already a big ass bodybuilder. I think I can do this by the way. I believe what the position I'm in right now, now I know I'm gonna get a bunch of people there and want me to do this and I don't feel like doing this. But I believe that, and I know where you're going with this, I was at, you know, 240, 250, I had 210 pounds of lean body mess. I'm probably like 170, 180 lean.

So I've got a 30 to 50 pounds of muscle. My body was used to having on it just a few years ago. So if I really scaled my volume, increase my calories, I bet you I can make a pretty aggressive. Now mind you, I'm on HRT too. So I have that advantage. And although you are, you definitely have some some genetic gifts, right? Casey Viader is on a whole nother level. I mean, this guy was like 18 years old. You should see what he looked like. Yeah. And I know there's going to get, I'm going to get a bunch of trolls that are going to go, oh my God, and talk shit about it.

But my point is, not that necessarily, I could outdo that, but I could show such germat. When I first did my transformation, I got called out of it. A lot of people thought it was fake, and I'm like, thought I was doctoring the photos and doing it, no, it's just, I know. When you know your body, muscle memory, and I think muscle memory plays the biggest role in this.

So here, let me read the stats first, and then I'll tell you something else about the study. Well, first off, the study was conducted by Arthur Jones. Arthur Jones is the inventor of Nautilus Equipment. And what he was trying to do is highlight the effectiveness of Nautilus Equipment and also his method of training, which included very low volume, but extremely high intensity.

So rather than doing 15 sets for legs, you do like three, but it was like maxed out, you know, to failure, four straps, you did sets where there were just negatives and partial, like you really pushed intensity through the roof, but the volume was also super low. Now check out what Casey Vieter did in the first week. The first, and this is again, this is documented by like scientists and there's pictures,

still hardly contested though. The first week, he gained 27 pounds of muscle, seven days. That's one, one? Yes ridiculous. Week. He lost 27 pounds of lean body fat. Yes, he lost seven pounds of body fat, also during that period of time.

Over 28 days, he gained 63 pounds of lean body muscles. Yeah, I don't think I could do that. Which, oh my God. But you get my point though, right? That's his before and after. This is 28 days later, look at that. So essentially he gained two and a quarter pounds of muscle per day on average.

Now here's something that is important to me. He wasn't on anabolic. Well, here's what's important. I tell you, how naive are people? He's got a debaul look right there, right? Yeah. Now, hold on a second. Okay, hold on a second.

Let's back up for a second. This is something that they did admit. Casey Viader went into this as a pro bodybuilder, had an accident, went to the hospital. I don't remember what the accident was, something with electrical accidents, something like that. Went to the hospital, they gave him an injection

of antibiotics, he had a severe reaction to it, lost tons of muscle. So the before picture is a pro body builder right after he recovered from a terrible accident, completely atrophied. So he's got all the muscle memory. So he had a tremendous muscle memory, incredible genetics. And real sick too, which I think makes a difference too.

Yes, it was like a long time ago. And he trained in a new way, it was a new stimulus, it was all this other stuff. And maybe he did anabolic still 60 pounds muscle. Yeah, that no matter how you draw that up, that is. Cause here's the thing too, I don't, I actually don't think anabolic plays the biggest role here. It was muscle memory.

And including with my argument, yes I know him on age or two. And so of course I'd have an advantage. That's not what would make the greatest change. Yes, that would assist me. Yes, that would help. Yes, if he was or was not on that, that place A role. But the biggest factor was that he had built that much lean mass

on his body for so long. And he had just- What did his physique look like going before he got his accident? It was a probiotic. It was a probiotic builder. It was a probiotic builder. Okay. Was it better than what he looks like here?

Yeah, guy, if he's a probiotic builder, there's no way you go pro with that. Yeah, he was leaner and even more muscle. But check this out. I mean, all that matters. Check this out though. They had other people in this study. So another guy built 18 pounds of muscle in 11 days.

Another guy built 18 pounds of muscle in 10 weeks. 15 pounds of muscle in 11 days. Another guy built 18 pounds of muscle in 10 weeks, 15 pounds of muscle in six weeks, 18 pounds of muscle in four weeks. Like crazy results across the board. It's so it's really wild. Now here's a deal. I've tried workouts like this because I read this study. Remember this study was done, and I think it was 1980 or something like that in the early 70s.

I remember reading this as a kid because Mike Mencer's book, Heavy Duty, was based on the principles of Arthur Jones. I've trained like this, does not work, it did not work for me this way. I've trained clients like this. I know I'm terrible to admit. I actually put clients on this kind of training program.

I thought I would never work for clients this way. I don't know how, and this study has never been duplicated. But I love bringing it up because it's like this crazy, it's like a phenomenon. Hotly contested study. How long ago was it when T Nation, I see this is, jugs at a T Nation article. This is one article, I think it was 2016,

but they've done other articles on it. What was their point in this article? They were just showing like, it was documented. They were scientists there, it was at a university. I know, but what's the, okay, the color experiment, oh, he's just, they're just saying is it. Fact or fact. Now the author of that article, I think that was in,

was that 2018, 16? 16. Ellington Darden is a body builder, ex body builder PhD, who was super pro, this style of training. So he's like, he was like Mike Menser. So he really promoted this like super low volume, super high intense form of training. Now, again, I mean, I've done this, I've done it with other people, it just doesn't work.

I've seen, I mean, I'd not that crazy because there was, when I was doing this, I was actually doing the biomepedance thing and I was doing the dunk tank on a pretty regular basis. So I was constantly tracking and I had some pretty crazy swings, nothing like 63 pounds. But I mean, like 15 pounds in like two weeks like of lean body mass, like I've seen easily. That's crazy. Yeah, I've seen swings like that on my, and I actually have it, I'm sure it can go to Aaron

with the dunk tank, because they keep it, it's all tracked. We could probably find it. That would be really cool. Yeah, I'll look at, look see if I have some of them laying around still, but I mean, I don't think it's that, that's surprising or amazing, though, when you've built this physique. And totally atrophy.

Yeah, and totally atrophy. Like, I mean, it is in my diet, my training, everything is way. With the blueprint still there. Yeah. I mean, we'll respond. Well, think about it this way. Give you an example. Whoever's watching this right now,

if you're like super-experiencial training, put your right leg in a cast for 60 days. If you want to do this, I don't recommend you do this by the way, but if you could try this if you're like super experienced with training, put your right leg in a cast for 60 days. If you wanna do this, I don't recommend you do this by the way, but you can try this if you want. Your right leg in a cast for 60 days, take the cast off, it will be severely atrophied. Then start training it and document how fast it gets back to normal.

It will blow you away. Yeah, so it's kind of a good conversation or high right now because I actually do, I don't get them as often as I used to When we first started kind of growing one of the most popular things and I know these go viral for youtubers The whole you know showing somebody's I mean there's a guy more plates more dates like his whole business is built around like Looking at other people and and decide helping people decide is it fake is it real is he natural? natural? Is it so? Oh yeah, people like, He does lots of stuff. He does lots of stuff.

He's a smart guy. But I mean, that is something that people want. I used to get DMs all the time of, they'd send me this guy. Yeah, you're not, Bra. And it'd be a picture of someone that made this crazy swing. Like, look how shredded it. There's no way this is true.

There's only 12 weeks. I'm like 12 weeks. I mean, I prep for shows in eight weeks, nine weeks. If you saw what I look like going into prep and the interprep, like stage ready, is dramatically different. And so it's not that unbelievable that you see these transfers, especially when you're doing it with the intent to show that. So of course, you're going to puff up a little bit. I'm going to load some sodium and water the day before. I'm gonna look kind of whatever slouched over. And then the other one, I'm gonna be totally dried to bone.

I'm gonna be a tanned up like crazy. I'm gonna get a pump. I'm gonna pose. I will show you, and the bigger the physique or the person, the more dramatic you can show. I'm gonna six foot three. If you want to show a lot of videos of that, of how to doctor that, like completely,

go on a two like a before and after, and how they've actually done that for a lot of time. In the same day. In the same day. They'll do the same day. I'll tell you something right now. It's pretty crazy. I've done, if you go back far enough on my Instagram,

I show people like nine pound swings in 24 hours, and show how different my body looks, and the only difference is a bunch of water, food, and a posture, and a pump, and one of being the morning, flat, no calories, no water, one the next day, pumped up, water, food. Good lighting. Yeah.

Well, that's a huge difference. Oh, I'll tell you what, man, when I get a pump, I look like a different human, completely like a different human. It's not, I mean, if you've ever seen me with a picture of my shirt off on Instagram, here's the, I'm always trying to reveal this to you. I'm always trying to tell the YouTubers yet. This guy works out right before you. He's like half the size and real.

No, hold on a second, hold on a second. This is the last that long. Hey, hey, if that was true, you'd just call it himself out, right? You'd see my shrink as the podcast. Every time you're talking, you just, you have a treat set, you guys don't see him. He has a set of dumbbells right here on the side of his chairs. And every time Andrew switches the camera to one of the other guys, that's the only time I let them talk.

We need a better pop. Put your opinions just. Yeah, real quick, give us 30 seconds of it. You better do it quick, because I'm only good for like short bursts. Hey, so here's something else that's really cool. So you guys know that I get a room. I get a room. I get a room. I get a room.

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I get a room. I get a room. I get a room. I get a room. I get a room. I was so protected. I was so fascinated by it. And aspirin's been around for so long. There's so much stuff you could read about it. It's really fascinating. So I'm really, did you guys know that there was a study that showed that daily baby aspirin was as effective

as erectile dysfunction drugs for helping men achieve erections? Is it just the blood that he has? Yes, that's it, huh? Yes, just improves blood flow. Improved the blood flow. Now, this wasn't like an acute thing, like I take Viagra and I feel it, you know, I can just happen over long periods. Yeah, like you take it every single day, a little bit, men reported, significantly improved

erections from aspirin, and they said comparing it to these erectile dysfunction drugs, it's about as effective. Now, really? Just marketed that way. Oh my God. Yeah. But the problem is aspirin's not patented. Now do just do Viagra and all the other brands do they have aspirin in it? No, they don't. No, no. Okay. Now that's a vasodilator.

Yes. So that open, so aspirin is an anti-coagulant, thins the blood. So it through that, increases blood flow, Viagra and other medications in that class are called PDE5 inhibitors. And what they do, are you taking notes over there? No, I don't know. No, I don't need that stuff. I've never seen him take notes. I've never seen him take notes

or in the blog cast before. His notes right now say, take aspirin, ask doctor for Viagra. No, PDE5 inhibitors inhibit and enzyme that breaks down what's called nitric oxide. So when you inhibit that, you get more nitric oxide, the capillaries open and dilate, and you get increased blood flow.

So different, completely different mechanisms. So because I was reading about aspirin and the comparative agra for erections, then I went and read about viagra and PDE5 inhibitors and I said, you know, these have been around for a little while now. They've been widely used. I wonder if there's other effects or potential.

I'd benefit. Don't you remember? See, I mean, I saw this in the 90s a lot, and at least the gym that I grew up in, and kind of an old garage bodybuilder type of gym. There would be, I'd see Viagra pills all the time. What kind of locker room would you be in? So the, I'm a lot of fun in there.

No, but I mean, I remember being told that, it works kind of like no explode does with the pumps, like people swear by using, I've never tried it before. I would be open to doing it. I just don't, I feel like it, I never felt like it and Viagra played that big of a difference for me. I never really, and I've played with it before. I've tried it and used it. I don't think it's like a game. I think it really makes a difference

for someone who really has erectile dysfunction. Well, I don't know. Sure, they know it's a huge difference. Well, I don't know, but what I, you're right, people have used it for performance. And it has been shown in studies, at least in some aspects to improve athletic performance in particular altitude.

So when they athletes take it at altitude, they notice improved performance, especially for endurance type athletes. Now with that, get you popped on like for Olympics, if you were taking one, good question. Is it controlled? That's probably on the list, I would imagine. You don't wanna take it in some sports though.

Let me take it before my wrestling match. Uh oh. Uh oh. Oh my god. Like, you know what reminds me, I'm watching, you know what show way. I got started, I'm gonna finish your loop and then I'll tell you this. Okay, sex education is a story. Okay, so, so, yes, it's been shown to improve performance. Here's the other stuff it does. Reduces heart attack risk, strokes, improves blood vessel health. In fact, they're speculating that PDE5 inhibitor drugs, like Viagra,

in the future, maybe you're gonna have a lot of problems with it. And then, you know, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, Improves blood vessel health. In fact, they're speculating that PDE5 inhibitor drugs, like Viagra, in the future, may be prescribed as health drugs. Just take this low dose on a regular basis because it's good for your heart. It reduces strokes.

It does all this incredible stuff. Right? Weird. Sorry, go ahead and dial a king. No, I was, no, I was interrupting you. You know how pissed off everybody gets when I interrupt Sal when he's talking about my job. Just let him finish.

You've been listening to that too much. Yeah, I do. My egg is not banned by the Olympics. There you go. Oh, it's not. Good news, everybody. I wonder how many of them actually use it then. I bet it's used.

It's not banned. I'm sure. I'm sure it's not. That's why they had to make those beds super small. Yeah, remember that? No, all this boner talk has got me thinking about the show that I watched last night. So I watched that show that's,

I forget where it's based out of, it's called Sex Education. I love it. It's on the new case. Yeah, so it's on the, yeah, UK. So it's the second season, and I haven't watched the second season. Yeah, the third one comes out Friday.

I didn't know that. And for some reason, I got buried in my queue or what I thought. So Katrina and I were watching it last night. And episode one, spoiler, right, is like, it's, you know, he, the season one ends with him like figuring out masturbation. Like he hadn't figured out masturbation yet. And that's how like season one ends. So season two opens with masturbation like right away.

Like that's how it opens up the scene. One of the greatest discoveries. And the first like, three to five minute clips, it's like this, I don't know what you call it, where it's like fast cut, you know, back and forth of him, like all the time, he's masturbating throughout the day, like running home to get the bathroom

and having to like be jogging on the track, see girls butts and then go off in the tree and he's doing it. And Katrina's asking me, she's like, is it really like that crazy? I'm like, you know, this is obviously for, you know, Hollywood reasons. It's a comic book. It's exaggerated a little bit. I said, I never, you know, took a right turn off into the forest to jerk off because I saw I never did you say I didn't do that. But I do, hey, I do vividly remember during those, that first year of finding this out,

like running home from school. Like I do remember that. I remember being in school and then like, running to get home so I could get the bathroom to myself. Like I do remember that. It's okay. Women don't, and I've told this to my, I've explained this to my wife and I've talked to,

like, and some women might get this. I, this isn't all men, this is an all women, but generally speaking, when you're a boy, you go from having the testosterone of a child to having the highest levels of testosterone. You'll ever have. You'll ever have. And it happens all at once,

and it's overwhelmingly powerful over your behaviors. And yes, if you don't have over your thought process. You just don't know how to manage it and you're, I mean, yeah, it's like you discover this thing that's super awesome and you could do it frequently because you're, you know, So do you guys remember that? I mean, do you remember, do you remember like that first,

I remember the first month, like I can remember the first month of like figuring that out. I remember the first 30 years after I just filled that. What's the day's date? Well, I just remember it used to be in class and it's something really boring, you know, the teachers talking about it. Then you get that feeling of,

you know, this is my sense. That's what she asked me about that. And I said, that's very accurate. I said, you just, at that age, it's so uncontrollable. Yeah, yeah, or even your jeans rubbing the wrong way on it is enough to give you that feeling of work. But the scene, there's the scene then,

where he is, and the egg told her to, this happens for sure. Like there's this not very attractive woman, but she has massive boobs and you can see her nipples through the shirt. And that's all he needs. And then he gets excited inside the front seat and his mom's in the grocery store

and he starts jerking off in the front seat And she comes back because she forgot like something she's got her wall or something and it's right when he's orgasm He shoots on the wall on the window as his mom. It's like the most I That's how the episode one opens with that dude. I'm like rolling. Oh my god I would never that would be more to find I, I have a specific memory that was just, it's this is rough because you're right, you'll get an erection, even if you think about it. In other words, if you think please don't get an erection,

now you're gonna get one, right? So it just happens. And I remember in the summer, I would go to work with my dad. He'd wake him up at fucking 5 a.m. Let's go, all right, and I gotta go to work with him. And I'm in his work van and I'm half asleep and we're driving and I'm with my dad There's no one else in the fucking car And then I start to get a boner and then you like feel like we're dad my dad's here. Oh

What's wrong? Oh my god, and then more you think about the worst against like Yeah, it's terrible. Oh so awkward. Well, just when they got caught with Jazzers, Justin's the one they got caught with. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, there's just, there's women in like those 80s leotard things, moving and jumping and bouncing around and it just was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and inevitably I'm just sitting there. This huge direction, I'm trying to like, you know, face the other direction, I'm trying to like cross my leg, I didn't know what to do with it, like dude,

it was awkward, it was bad. That's the funny part that I told her was accurate that I think is very different as a grown older man today versus when I was a kid was that. I mean, to get that, you have to really be in the moment in your head and think about things. You're just wiser, it's not as novel.

Right, and of course, right. But back then, it could be a thing. Like, you could be like, the way fruit is laying in a bowl. You know what I'm saying? It could be weird stuff like that and it gets the brain going and then it's at 17 Dude nothing stop in that thing. No, it's yeah, it's it's terrible people don't understand such a great show if you guys haven't seen it I think it's a it's a it's a while We accurate and funny and it's a really good. Are you up today? Don't I know you asked it to before?

Yeah, I watched it a while ago. I'm trying to remember what you're talking about, but yeah, it's coming back as the beginning. So I watched all of season one, loved it, and then I guess I don't know where, what was going on with my TV, it's season two. Do you guys remember the first time a girl touched it? Do you remember the first time?

I mean, not on it, I mean, like over your pants. Do you remember that? Doug's gonna hate we're going I mean like over your pants. Do you remember that? Does it hate we're going in this direction but I do have this important stuff for you. I remember in four. If there's a kid watching right now, this is a good, not a pivotal moment. Nobody talked to me in your timeline when I was a kid.

I remember in fourth grade that was my first girlfriend and we went to help funny this. We went and watched all of her in company, Disney movie, cartoon. And she sat next to me. Our parents were all way the back, we went sat in the front, and she were in fourth grade. And I remember, she touched my thigh.

And I remember getting the most massive erection and sweating and- For great, Jesus Christ. I didn't do anything with it. Like I was scared of death at that point. You were a little kid. Yeah, I didn't even know what to do with it, right? At that point, you're still, so at this point,

I haven't found masturbation yet, but I remember the help embarrassed and nervous and scared. I felt like, I remember in the popcorn, you know, over the over the over the over. Oh, I remember, for me it was, then you cut the whole thing. It was seventh or eighth grade. I think it was seventh.

So this is like when the shit starts to hit, like this is when you're feeling everything, right? Seventh, eighth grade. And I had a girlfriend, I was eighth grade. And I had a girlfriend, I was eighth grade. And I had a girlfriend and she was way more advanced than I was and aggressive. And we were making out, which already, I'm already excited as hell.

And she reached down and through my pants, she grabbed it and it was like, I don't know, man, buuut. Heaven's gates. Yeah. You know, when you got home and like, whoa, just happy. Yeah. Now there's there's things today as an adult that you guys can draw back To to moments like that that were so impressionable that because of that like a scent

Get you in the mood or a certain thing. Well, don't they call that a printing. Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, there was a story. I don't remember what book it was like I have smells and scenarios and things like that that just like it's like oh No, there's a that's document. Well essence dude That shit got me Yeah, no it wasn't even the commercial smell I did turn on ever since then I turn on the commercials cuz like yeah, my shower thing going on right that total shower I became a shower guy. Big shower guy.

I guess now I'm pinning it back to that commercial. Yeah. Because dude, so she had like the perfect, like, straight blonde hair and it just smelled like the, whatever kind of botanical scent that was. And you can't just like, like even if I was walking down the hall, it would just, it would get me. I would almost be paralyzed.

Well, to this day, because a lot of my first, sexual experiences as a kid happened, and I had a girlfriend who was wearing vanilla, Victoria's secret lotion. So that right there. So, that lotion is like the lotion, all my candles are vanilla, like that is forever in printed in me,

that smell, I love that smell. And I know it's because of that, right? I know that a lot of my first were with this girl when I was a kid, and she wore that type of victory. So there was a, so this is documented. I forgot what book it was in, but this, they talk about this situation where this kid was masturbating,

and at the moment of orgasm a spider was crawling You don't know his armor is late. Oh wow and because of that what happens? It's you get imprinted on sometimes. Yeah, because of that it became a fetish Yeah, to where he would like so it's crawling on him when he would masturbate and it became and they use that as example because it's so strange He's in the bathroom reading Charlotte's webs. Yeah. So I have, so we're playing Tell All here now, right? When I was a kid, the first time a girl

ever touched me down there, I was deathly sick. She came over to check on me and bring me over like, so to this day, I could be sicker than a dog, and I'm like sexually aroused the entire time. It's the funniest thing ever. That's to your spider point, right? That like, who doesn't want to be resuscitated? That's what you want.

Yeah, that's way better. Yeah, hey, I brought him back to life. He taught me CPR. Wow, that's great, honey. I just wait, that's not true. I mean, usually you go mouth, but I know we're going way off and Doug's probably fringing over there, but I can't edit this whole thing out. I mean, honestly though, it's great honey. I just, I mean, usually you go mouth, but I know we're going way off and dumps probably, sorry, I'm over there, but I can't edit this whole thing out. I mean, honestly though, it's like, I find it very fascinating that we,

that something like that can happen that, I mean, when you're 15 years old or whatever, and it's, this is the average shape. Yeah. So this is why you guys know the old, it's still kind of a fetish thing, like the whole BDSM thing where people, you know, submit or dominate whatever. But you know, the classic like spank me. And that was a thing for a while where it was instant like a joke or whatever. And some people still turned on by this. But it was like a big thing where people got turned on by getting paddled in the butt. You know, they connected that to adolescent authoritarian, adolescent

boys going through puberty, going to schools where that's the punishment. So you're in seventh grade grade and the nun, come here, you fucked up again, getting paddled in the butt and because you're in that state of mind or whatever and you get in the right, now you get imprinted and you like getting paddled in the butt. Yeah, I read about that.

And is because of that, is there a, do you know, because obviously paddling in school is dramatically decreased? So is that actually read an article that said that? No way. That that, that, a, do you know? Because obviously, paddling in school is dramatically decreased. So is that actually read an article that said that? No way. That that, that, that, that was run that time where it became, became like a big thing. And till this day, people are still,

but that specifically they said is, you know, that's interesting. And I can, I tell you what. So has that, I mean, do you, did that article say that? It's been four years to me. Did it, I've guaranteed someone had, was on a, but you had, I'm, you're a kid, you had a big old thing of stuffed animals, right?

Oh, that's what it is. Imagine being a kid and you were, you know, got stuffed animals all around you and that's weird. That's some weird thing like that. I mean, okay, in a sense. I mean, I don't know, I might have done that one else. I mean, completely speculative right now, but.

So that, so did the article say that, that has decocted, decocted? They would say that, but they did connect it to that and it's coarse, it's pure. Why don't you Google that, Doug? It's good to Google over there. I'm gonna take a sound.

He's on a watch list right now. Yeah. All right, I'm gonna take, I'm gonna, I'll just, I'll take a turn here. I'm gonna take a turn here. I want to, I'm excited to, I don't listen to a lot of podcasts. We just, we're so busy and I have kids and all that stuff.

But every once in a while, I'll tune in to certain podcasts. I love Order a Man, Ryan Mitcheller, right? Great interviewer. Yes, I was just gonna say that. He's one of the few people, so I've been on his show, I think two or three times. The way he interviews is so good at it. He takes the conversation in interesting areas.

It doesn't feel choppy or like he's really professional. Very, very good And if you listen to him interview other people He's actually in my opinion becoming one of the best that I've heard they have an episode coming out He's an interview Ben Shapiro. I was gonna he has Shapiro and Khrinshaw coming up right now Yeah, saw him post about that. Oh, bro. He's getting huge. Yes, so I'm excited to hear that because I can't it's been really fun to watch him I remember when we first met him like Tahoe. We weren't even that excited to meet him to be honest, right?

Because at that time we didn't know who he was. Really, we just knew he was going to be in the area. I know who we were either. I agree. And I think that's how our relationship got built, which is always fun, right? When you meet somebody, you're not really that excited to meet each other. And then you kind of like hit it off. I remember us all sitting in that room at the Tahoe House that we rented.

And first time meeting each other and just having this like kind of open, which off. I remember us all sitting in that room at the Tahoe House that we rented and first time in each other and just having this kind of open, which you could go back and there's definitely a mind pump episode way back when probably in the 300s or so somewhere in that range where we all connected for the first time. He was talking about the decline of testosterone

amongst males. I think that was the subject. That's what we talked about. No, he does a really good job. And if you're like for me, if I'm interested in listening to a particular person on a podcast, let's say I'm looking up like Ben Shapiro, who he's interviewer, right?

Let's say I'm going to hear him say a certain thing. If I see him on order man, that's where I'm going. Because he's got the, he does such a damn good job. No, I remember even back then, we all said it afterwards. Like, whoa, that was one of the better, better people that had ever interviewed us, the way he controlled and directed the interview. I think he takes a job very seriously, and there's the reason why he is scaled to where he's at. It's a good story.

All right, so more cool science, okay? A study came out as an animal model. So this was a mouse study. However, it's been speculated in humans as well, but very interesting. In this mouse model, they demonstrated that a high sodium diet had potent anti-tumor effects. So they gave mice cancer.

They gave some mice... So did it cute till you said that. They gave some mice a low sodium diet, moderate sodium, high sodium. So they split them gave some mice a low sodium diet, moderate sodium, high sodium. So they split them all up. The high sodium diet, and they speculated that this would happen, significantly reduced tumor size. It killed cancer. That's interesting. Because wouldn't you have to increase their calorie intake in order to do that too, or do they just shoot straight shoot? No, I think they just added it to their diet.

Which is interesting, with cancer, almost everything fuels cancer. You're right, so that's really interesting that giving it more actually had a suppressing effect on it. Well, high sodium can have an inflammatory effect. Now, when I say that, people hear that as bad, exercise can have an, it has an inflammatory effect. What it does is it stimulates the pathways

that have to do with inflammation, that also have to do with immune function. So like for example, if I hammer your inflammation way down, okay, you have no immune, no inflammation now. You're not gonna be able to recover from exercise and I can be able to rebuild. Cancer will probably go crazy in your body, you'll get sick very easily because you need that to fight certain things.

So through the inflammatory process, this is what they said in the study, they think that's how the sodium had such a potent antitumor effect. So I wonder if they're going to couple that because right as of now, hasn't the ketogenic diet been accepted as protocol for cancer treatment now? In some cases, it's got anti-cancer. So, there's not so much. But, and the ketogenic diet is going to be relatively low on sodium, unless you supplement for it or make sure you add a bunch, right?

In comparison to a traditional American diet. That's a really, so I wonder if they will, if they add that on top of it. Right, if they'll start to recommend like a, you know, ketogenic diet with, you know, high sodium paired with it as a protocol for that. Wow, that's very interesting. Yeah, no, that's it. Now the reason why the ketogenic, by the way, the ketogenic diet for cancer is very different than the ketogenic diet for workouts.

It's also a low protein. Yeah. So that's a medical ketogenic diet. I agree. It's like 70% fat in a little, some protein and no carbs at all. And really what it is, is why it's so beneficial is it's starving the cancer cells, right? That's the theory behind why the ketogenic diet is so beneficial.

Yeah, so a lot of cancer cells, not all, we've actually identified some cancer cells that can run off of ketones, but some cancer cells, many cancer cells, they're unable to utilize glucose for energy. Oh, excuse me, unable to use ketones for energy. So if you starve them of glucose and don't give them a lot of protein to convert into glucose, and the rest of your cells can

run off of ketones, the cancer cells become weakened and die. Fasting will do this by the way, too. Fasting is probably the most effective way to do it, because you don't give them anything. And cancer cells are way more susceptible to dying from not getting nutrients than healthy cells. Have you guys heard about this new city that they're trying to develop somewhere here in the West Coast in like a desert area? Just to do a city of Tulosa, I believe it's called. Yeah, so it's like a trillion dollars

of trying to get all these investors involved in basically creating the city of the future. Like the most like... They're calling it the woke city. Is that what they're calling it? Yeah, like it's it the whole thing is I mean, I love that idea It looks pretty cool like like utopian-esque In terms of like a futuristic low-energy What exactly one of my what is this great about living in a free country like we are now and not in a socialist or communist world.

Can buy a bunch of land. Is that nothing stops a bunch of billionaires who think that running the country that way is a good idea. Go put it to work. Go put it to test. I love that. I hope they do that. If it's the bane of money power intelligence is the arrogance. And so these, and this is my opinion back by, I don't know, decade,

over a hundred years of evidence, when you do centralize and plan things from the top down, it just doesn't work. You don't have the accuracy of signals, like the price markets, you don't have the ability for things to allocate resources effectively. That looks cool.

I mean, it looks like, what's that city? Is it Singapore, it's not Singapore, is that like Singapore? That's right, Singapore looks like that. or Dubai, you know, by the way. Yeah, one of the freest markets in the world. I think in fact, if I'm not mistaken, they're like number two on the heritage freedom. Yeah, well, they're talking about having cars that can fly and all that kind of, you know, So is this like just a pie in this guy idea? Is this really something they're trying?

They've already raised a bunch of money in that direction, so. Wow. Yeah, it's a city, it's like, they wanna make sure everybody. Okay, so what's the crux of it? Like what is the? Equity. So equality and equity mean two different things, right?

Equality would be equality of outcome. So then all these people will have vested interests in the city themselves, is that what you're saying? They're just basically saying, like look look, fair, inclusive, like, those are all buzz terms to get everybody to say, oh my God, that sounds amazing. What I really want to know again is the true crux or foundation to this thing.

This will be a lot of planning, a lot of planning from the top down, a lot of central planning. Now, here's the, here's the, the plus side. Equitism, is that's a word? Equitism and inclusion. That was making up for you.

Like, yeah, just came up with this. Mashable. Now, here's the word? Aquitism and inclusion. That was making up for like the Just came up and then smash the Here's the putism and inclusive. Here's the part of it. Here's the part of it that I think is okay When you're planning something from the top dude looks woke. He does when you're planning something from the top It's easier when it's small for example I could do that with my house of course five people when you do it to 500 people Well much harder five million people. So a city, they have a better chance than they would if it was a country.

I still think it's gonna be a good one. That's like if you go into a place like all homage people or go into one religion and try and move everybody, it's gonna be a lot of you because everybody has the same core beliefs. Can't do that in America. That's a good point. In America, you got everybody in all different beliefs

and directions, it's gonna be constant polling But that's the beauty of our country and that the ability that everybody can go in any direction they want You try and create this tiny little now is this gonna become a neo-modernist cult? That's my question. Oh, yeah Well, I think this is what I think that I mean I really believe that the Googles and the apples are building in this direction indirectly already with their little cities. And I mean, we have Google get ready to take over all down here.

You know that, right? Like, they're going to own like all the buildings and housing and... You know, I don't mind this for too far sale, right? I don't mind this for two reasons. One, it's their money. Okay, spending the best I really want. Two, I think you made a great point at them. The kind of people that will go there are pretty much hand-picked.

There's probably going to be a lot of homogeneity when it comes to ideas and thoughts and direction. You take a bunch of educated tech-driven people and you put them in a big city and they all have the same ideas. A lot of people are going to be working together. It's going to work better than if you have a bunch of people with different ideas. So I would be interested I'm interested to see what happened my prediction based off of what I've read is it's gonna either radically change Based on the fact that it's gonna fail according to how they want to do it or they'll just give up all

I mean, I love stuff like this and I think that I mean this is the answer to the big you know Capitalism versus socialism type of debate is like it was cool in a capitalist society You can still build a socialist society, not the other way around. No, you can't do that. So go for it. I wish that every other city was ran by its own little independent,

socialistic ideas and you could choose to live there or you could choose to live out in the next city over where it's the Bians, a pretty steep prize point. You know, I'm sure it's the same. Whatever. And you do, but you know what, the kind of along those lines, the state system is like that. Kind of.

Kind of, right? I wish it was more like that. You're right, and it used to be. States used to have much more power than the federal government, but there's enough difference between states to where, here's an easy metric, where are people moving to and where are people leaving? And then you can look at the policies.

And it'll point, it'll point in the direction. It's interesting to watch that, right? It is very true. And you can look at that and see like, okay, lots of people leaving. Is there an exit that's happening here? Yeah, lots of people leaving places like this, lots of people moving to places like this.

I mean, you can make those some arguments so that has more reasons for economics than it does for, of course, like social ideas and things. Well, no, it's all of it, but economics has got to be the top. Of course, most people I know that say they're leaving California, yes, they might hate a lot of our politics and policies

and shit like that, but most of them just like I can't afford it. I can have, I can sell, which is policies. Yeah, a lot of policies influence that heavily. I mean, part of it too is the supply and demand. There's only so many houses on the coast of California and it just keeps driving up. New developments.

Also, there's a huge tax and business burden in California. California is the worst, one of the worst places to open a business. You're gonna have one of the highest tax burdens. The regulations are insane here. So you talked about housing. Do you know how insane it is to try to build new developments? Well, you don't have any.

I mean, we've been, and I can't wait so we can go back and listen to this. You've been arguing with me for the last year and a half about this bubble, Bob Poppin. And I've been telling you, it ain't poppin anytime soon because basic supply and demand. I mean, I just read an article that said that we're somewhere between 1.5 and 5 million underbuilt homes.

And while, meanwhile, by the way, with the millennials now hitting the peak age for buying a home, is the largest pool of people ever to come into the housing market to want to buy. And they're more educated, they make more money. And so they're capable of buying. They keep travels easy and go on all their trips. So this run that we're seeing,

and then you add in the fact that we keep printing money to help it out. And all. Oh, I think it's gonna pop, but I agree with you. There's a long way up. Here's the thing though, and this why I keep, because a pop to me is an artificially inflated thing, and when you pop, there's this big crash.

I don't think this is artificially propped up. I think it's a simple supply and demand issue, and I do think it will get plateaued with a small dip, and that what that will look like is, once we finally reach enough homes that are available, and we're not fighting for, you know, 10 people fighting for one, it'll start to flatten out, and you'll see a tiny,

and you'll see a dip because everybody right now, when they post their home for sale, are reaching 20, 30, 100 grand over, and then when there's enough supply, that'll level it out with a slight dip, and then we'll be back again. Well, so here's this is a weird argument for me because usually when I argue a point, I want to be right. This is a weird one because I'm arguing a point that I hope is wrong because you're right. Supplying demand drives all that, but supply and demand is what's affected by policy. So supply of money, right, printing lots of money, artificial low supply of housing from regulation. Demand could be skewed because of market signals or it could

drop considerably if inflation goes through the roof and then people lose their buying power. Now the demand goes down, but this is one of those arguments that I hope you're right, dude. I really hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong. Well, the truth is that, I mean, if it just keeps going the way,

even if I'm wrong and your bubble pop theory does happen and we lose, you know lose 35% equity in homes. We're still gonna be significantly on top from where we were just two years ago when I first visited this. All of the people that got crushed in 2008 were the people that bought, that did those adjustable loans and bought towards the end of it.

But if you bought your house in 2002 and you saw this huge jump in 2008 and crash, Yeah, you were still okay and you didn't pull out $100, 200,000 you know, I pulled I pulled out of my condo. I remember I pulled out $60,000. That's part of what hurt me You know my condo at one point was worth that I bought it at the right of the quad or three It was actually I actually learned about tax strategy and what made me do it was actually it was actually a smart move from that perspective I had bought a brand new truck at the time which was probably a $70,000 truck back then and I was making monthly payments on it Well that interest that you pay on monthly payments for a vehicle like that is not tax right off

But if it is it was the interest on a home loan So I took a home equity line out, paid off the truck completely. So now the tax that's being paid on that. A lot of people did that. That was a massive write off. So it was, they called that using your home like an ATM. A lot of people did that in the last time. And when you, I mean as a kid,

I mean I was kind of a kid, or I was 22 years old. You were a kid of 22. Yeah, right? So I have 22 years old. Obviously now I do things completely different. I would never do that now. But it seemed logical.

We got a half a million dollar house. I only have three 20 that I paid for it. I put I think almost 20 down on it back then seemed okay. But I mean nowadays you don't have anybody getting loans like that. You can't get a house right now without putting a minimum of 10 to 20% down. Yeah.

So everybody's got that in it. And then they also have the equity that's been built over the last year or two years. So I just don't see a massive pop. I maybe see a plot. that in it. And then they also have the equity that's been built over the last year to two years. So I just don't see a massive pop. I maybe see a plot. I hope you're right. Real quick. I hope you're enjoying the show. Head over to drinklmt.com forward slash mine pump. Get a free sample pack of the best electrolyte powder you'll find anywhere. It has the appropriate levels of sodium to give you better performance and a better pump.

Again, it's drinklmt.com forward slash mind pump. All right, enjoy the rest of the show. First question is from Fertado No Insta. What is the best way to get a pump for a photo shoot for every body part of the body with body weight only? Hey, this is a great question for Soura here. So dumb. He's got this mastered for our questions.

So dumb. I don't look that way, but this is flat. I don't know, how was it when you're backstage with all those guys? I actually know that they're, yeah, I want to know about this. You guys pump each other. And who is the designated like tan paint guy?

Well, these are two different things you guys have. I just picture Adam in the bag like, hey, your pump looks good. Easy guy. Easy guy. Well, these are two different things you guys said. I just picture Adam in the bag. Your pump looks good. Easy guy. Easy guy. So, yeah, we did, you have bands backstage. I mean, that's extremely common. And so I think the part that someone who's getting ready

for a photo shoot, you'll air out pretty quick. But there's a couple of things that I think that are super beneficial to know what to do. Like sodium loading, hitting the water, the carbs, kind of timing, all that, and then also getting the pump, I think, will keep that kind of filled out look. Whereas if you do, and I noticed things like, if I did something more slow digesting carbohydrates, I would maintain my pump longer than if I did something that was kind of fast-acting. Fast-acting quicker pump right away. Like if I was about to get on stage in a few minutes,

having something that was like quick sugar, I have an alcohol, you see some guys will take a shot or do something like that to get it in the water. Are you pounding in a bunch of water too? Or is it? Not a bunch, like so, for stage, you would deplete down a little bit on your water and then right before you get on,

you load a little bit. And everybody's body's gonna be different like how much you wanna take in. So for me, it would be like 70 grams of carbs and a half gallon of water about an hour before I get on stage or present more a photo shoot. And then literally right before the photo shoot or right before you walk on stage,

you're getting a full body, I'm doing push-ups, I'm doing lateral raises, I'm doing chest flies, where do you hold your camera, so I'm gonna do this on that. You know what I'm figuring that out? You know what's funny about this is that lean looks better than big in photo shoots. Sure. And this is important because I think

sometimes people get concerned with like, I need to be bigger and so they do the carbs and the sodium end up Holding water and they just and maybe you get a better pump. You just don't look as good Well, I mean who am I talking to right now? What body fat percentage are they at with that because you're at the elite level right? Well, yeah, and what will kill you though to your point though? I mean one of the hardest things about so never, I don't think I ever truly brought my best physique to stage when I was judged. It's extremely difficult to time this pump

or this perfect look when they're judging. It really is hard. And everybody's body is so different and depending on how much muscle you have this time around and your metabolism, I mean, all this stuff matters. And what would happen is a lot of times, I would be so afraid of what you just said, of like taking in too much that it gives me

kind of a loaded looking or what in the bodybuilding community we call that like overspilling, right? So having too much carbs or calories and then being stored as fat, right? And holding on to too much water, that I would kind of play to your, like you said, like I want to stay lean and that will present better. But boy, then after I would judge in the morning,

I'd be like, well, that's mainly when they decide, right? So you can come into the night show, a little softer, whatever you want. Then I would fuck with, like, go eat a whole bowl of pasta and pound a half gallon of water. And then you see my photos at night. I look 10 times better than when I got judged. This would happen to me a lot.

So there is a fine line in that. But to your point, getting as lean as you possibly can is the best strategy for a photo shoot or getting on stage. And then loading it up with a little bit of carbs and water right before you go in like an hour before you go into your shoot. Yeah, and I think the best strategy, I don't know, it's for me at least. I haven't done, I didn't compete. I only did one real photo shoot.

It was way back in the day when we did MAP's in a ball, and I did better doing kind of like light band work and going from body part to body part, rather than like just doing shoulders and then going to chest. It was like you know pushups, band rows, laterals, you know band curls, pushups and you just kind of yeah, I went through a circle. Yeah, like a like a light circuit. That's it. Again, you're just trying to get a pump. You don't want to be hot and sweaty and get too crazy, but you're just I'm doing push, and then I get up and I do lateral raises.

You're not doing a workout. You're just pumping blood. Yeah. But what you have to understand is, because you're just pumping blood in there, like it'll go out, so it doesn't, you don't hold that pump for hours, so you literally wanna do that,

like right before the photos, or right before you get them on stage, but you can do things with water and carbohydrates and sodium leading up to it to help that. But that takes a little more practice and experience to probably nail down exactly what your body needs. And I could never give you the formula on a podcast not knowing your body, your metabolism, all those things.

Yeah. And then for compounds you can take that might help, like citrally, this is what you find in pre-workout supplements, that can increase blood flow, maybe it'll help with the pump. You could try beetroot powder, so that can do a little bit of that. Pick nudge and all, I hope I think I'm saying that right, is another compound that can increase nitric oxide and help with a little bit of the vascular in the pump. But none of this matters if you're not really lean. I mean, I just wanna say that because if you're a guy

and you're 10% body fat, you're pretty lean in real life. But on camera, it's not gonna make that big of a difference if you do the water and sodium. I'm talking like, you gotta be shredded for this to really make a difference. Not just lean, but actually shred it. Well, I imagine this person who's getting ready for a photo shoot is that's the point. Sure. I would think that that's the first or else yeah, you're right. There's nothing you can do.

Now, here's something that this is what was often communicated in the bodybuilding space. And I can see where this has got value. They always say don't get your legs pumped. Like don't pump up your quads before you got on stage. It's harder to flex them in produced stations. Now personally, I could totally see that. Well, my quads get really pumped. I could flex them, they look big, but I can't bring out the separation.

It's like too much blood in the muscle. So that, and that's one of those things that's what do they call that? Like a, you know, you know, anecdote. Yeah, and bodybuilders communicate it all the time. So. Next question is from Hoop Golf 89. Does lifting reduce flexibility?

Nope. No, this is like up there with one of those bad myths. Yeah, it sticks around. No, they addressed that recently. Yeah, actually, they actually now have studies. I love hearing athletes. Okay, so first off, we have to define flexibility. When we talk about flexibility on the show, typically what we're referring to is functional flexibility. So that means your range of motion that you actually have control and

strength over, not passive flexibility, like my 10 month old son, I could put him in the splits, but he's got no stability in it. Very unstable. He's going to have strength in it, right? It doesn't count if you have lots of range of motion with no strength. In fact, that's actually instability and that increased risk of injury. So what you're looking for is being able to move through ranges of motion, but also have strength in those ranges of motion and full range of motion, resistance training, it does exactly that. Like if you do full good controlled squats, you now have strength in that full range of motion. If you do full range of motion flies or rows or pull-ups, whatever range of motion you train

in, you have strength in it and you can increase that range of motion in studies now supporting it. Well, I imagine that's sort of the caveat though, is the full range of motion work out, as opposed to what you might see sometimes if you're in like in a body building, sort of a set where we're just going half wraps or we're just trying to focus on muscle tension. And you know, and you're building certain patterns of movement that your body now is prioritizing. And then trying to take that sort of program and then apply it to something sports related, you've seen sort of a disconnect there by the way that you've trained.

So the way that you trained does in fact impact using it functionally, but that would happen over quite a substantial amount of time. So in terms of flexibility itself, though, if you're doing full range of motion, having strength in that range of motion, it increases that flexibility, but strength in that flexibility, which is... You have to compare apples to apples, too, right? Because what you're saying is absolutely true, Justin, but here's with a problem, people will compare a well-developed muscular person who trains without full-ranges of motion, right?

So he's like, you're trained like a bodybuilder, and then they'll compare them to like an athlete or somebody that trains in full-ranges of motion, be like, look, that bodybuilder's so tight and imbibled. Oh, you know. That's not a good comparison, that's not fair. You want to compare the body builder to someone who's inactive. Do they have greater range of emotion

and greater flexibility? Absolutely. Now the problem is, like Justice said, you get really strong in a short range of motion. Now you can generate a lot of force in a particular range of motion. You move outside of that and you don't have a lot of strength in that problem.

It's problematic at that point. Oh yeah, I could create big problems. Like if you can, you know, if I can generate a thousand pounds of force going straight ahead, but to the side it's, you know, a hundred pounds of force and I move forward real fast but then all of a sudden I got a cut, you know, that could cause some problem. You've seen this though too and there was a movement especially in baseball where it's like you don't want to get your chest or your arms too big because it felt like it would restricted the mechanics. Yeah, which was totally false if you, unless you're going...

That's like a Mark McGuire. Yeah, exactly. Look at Luke Bo Jackson. Look at like these incredible like physiques that started to emerge in how you know amazing their performance was. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't the muscle that was bound, that wasn't the factor, it was just the way they were training. Yeah, and to that note, if your arms get bigger and your legs get better, you might have to change your technique a little bit. Exactly. I know in Jiu Jitsu, there's a lot of positions where, for example, chokes, rear naked choke.

If your forearms and arms are big, it might be harder to get underneath someone's chin to do a choke, or if you have really big massive legs, a triangle choke might be a little bit more difficult, but there's ways you can do variations, stuff like that. So for athletes listening, if you do build size, make sure you practice your technique still, because otherwise you're in a new body

and your old technique now is hard to carry over. Next question is from Alissa Daybook. Can you become dependent on supplements such as multivitamins or is that a myth? It depends on the supplement. Multivitamins know, like if you're... Well, anything that your body naturally produces on his own, and then you take it through a supplement, you absolutely. Yeah, a lot of that stuff, you get what's called a negative feedback loop, right? So like hormones, for example, if you take a hormone, your body may stop producing that hormone.

If you drink caffeine or take caffeine, because of the way caffeine affects the body, it attaches to particular receptors, your body then starts to down regulate those receptors and turn them off. This is why when you have caffeine the first time, you feel so much of it it and then later you need more and more of a higher dose to even get that effect.

But other things, not really like if you know, like vitamin C or B vitamins or you know, vitamin D stuff like that, no. Your body utilizes it or doesn't and doesn't really, you don't become dependent on them, fish oils and natural components like that. No, I would want to know more what he means by dependent too, right?

Are we talking about dependent because you're addicted to it or dependent because the body now stops producing it like you're... And you need it. Right, so I'd want a little bit of clarification on what they mean by dependent because to that, back to the testosterone point, I'm taking testosterone, so absolutely,

my body's gonna down-regulate its natural. If I was already low, back to the testosterone point. Like, I'm taking testosterone, so absolutely my body's gonna downregulate its natural. If I was already low, I'll be even lower because I'm now taking it, you know, exogenous. So for sure. But you're not gonna be dependent as like addicted to it to where you have to take it. Yeah, but the body does have a lot of these mechanisms. Colestral is a great example.

So you can eat cholesterol and what'll happen is your liver will produce less to balance it out. And it's a wonderful mechanism the human body has. A lot of animals don't do this, by the way. They old studies on cholesterol used rabbits. They would give them a high cholesterol diet, and the rabbit's cholesterol will go so high. You'd be scary.

Doesn't really happen with humans, which is why they've removed cholesterol off that, you know, nutrients of concern list. So a lot of compounds don't do that and others do, it depends on what you're talking about. But like, if something has a profound effect on you, if you take like an herb, for example, like you take horny goat weed, that's a good one. And you're like, oh my god, my libido is boosted. I could feel, man, I could really feel this working. Keep taking it. And you'll probably notice oh my God, my libido is boosted. I could feel, man, I could really feel this working. Keep taking it and you'll probably notice that has a diminishing effect. Now, all that being said, I still think that,

I still think there's some things that we don't fully know yet. And there's stuff that I know we can talk about that we've seen in our experience with somebody who gets most of their nutrients through whole foods versus supplementing on time just seemed to do better. To do. And there's some theories around that,

but there's some things that I think that we don't still fully know why that is, that you just don't get this delivery system there. Right, for some reason, the way we were supposed to consume those nutrients is still superior than to how we figured it out through through vitamins. Find, show me in nature where you would find pure vitamin C with nothing else.

There's nothing else. No cofactors, no sugars, no fibers, no other compounds, right? You don't find isolated nutrients in nature. It's always comes with a lot of different things. So yeah, you know, you take an iron from food, you'll absorb it differently. You're less likely to build toxic levels of iron, same thing with other nutrients and compounds. So that's a great, now here's the problem.

Someone's like, oh, well, I'd rather have it from food, but then they don't eat good. So now you've gotten the worst of both worlds. Right. Well, I think it's, yeah, and I think it's different in today's age with all the fortification of vitamins and minerals that make its way into almost everything versus back in the day where people would have rickets or from real deficiencies because it just wasn't available in the diet and things. So I think back then it mattered a lot more in terms of getting certain vitamins and nutrients, but today they pretty much stuff it in most foods.

That's why salt has iodine. You ever notice that? Just regular old table salt? They literally made it like a rule that you had to add it in the salt because people had iodine deficiencies. I mean, at the end of the day, I think there's tremendous value in everybody listening,

doing blood work and getting a full panel and seeing where you're at. That's the best. That's the best. And because, and do that a couple times, so you get, you know, and spread it out, so you can get kind of an idea of what you're more than likely, there'll be some consistent things that you'll see there.

For example, in mind, I'm consistently low on vitamin D. I mean, yes, if I get more sun exposure and stuff like that, it seems to be a little bit better, but historically, I almost always test low. So I'm consistently, more important these days, right? To look at that. That's a great, especially. That's a great example. I take 10, 5 to 10,000, I use a vitamin D and I've been doing it for years. And my levels are always in the middle. So like

you would think, oh, you're going to take two, but I test regularly. So it's like, I apparently, I need to take that much vitamin D. I know people that they took vitamin D got tested. Oh, it got too high. So you need to know because if you don't know, you can be doing some problems. Even supplement. I mean, I just noticed from coaching and being out in the sun over the past few months, my elevated mood and just like energy and everything is insanely better. So just getting outside as much as you can is big factor too. Next question is from our Goldstein 76. How can I combine the maps prime exercises to create a daily routine that will rapidly increase the mobility in all my joints? I'm concerned that if I

just choose a couple of random exercises from each zone, I may end up missing some of the smaller joints. Yeah, so thinking of it this way, you want to do a couple general whole body mobility movements, and then you want to place special emphasis on the areas that you need the most work. We struggle the most. Yeah, it's not unlike how bodybuilders work out. Like a really good bodybuilder will go to the gym

and they're trying to build a very balanced, aesthetic physique. They're not building everything equally, right? They're gonna go to the gym and say, I need more lats and I need more quads. So there's more work done there. They're not saying, let's get everything to grow at the same proportion,

because now I'm gonna look just as unbalanced as I did before. It's a similar strategy. So you wanna work through the whole body, but your special emphasis is on those areas that you need help because I'm going to tell you, you know, when you when you really need really wanting to improve mobility in a trouble area. Consistent daily frequency. You can't do that. No, you won't do you won't over do it. So you're better off picking the most egregious area and focusing on that, even if you failed all three zones, let's say, pick the one that is the war that is the we failed the worst, and that limits you from doing some

of the most important movements with good full range of motion, or with good, and just go at it, you know, go do in practicing those movements two three times a day? See I I prefer only one or two movements really like one or two movements that are that are going to Benefit you in that one of those zones and then just doing those multiple times a day as much as you can and Till you see significant progress there and then you don't stop those behaviors But what's cool is that when you unlock that new range of motion and you get to the point where you've perfected that movement, now you can do strength exercises in your routine that just promote that range of motion.

So I don't have to do the combat stretch and the 1990s stuff as much as I used to because I've worked on it so much. Now if I just do astergrass squats or do full overhead extensions for zone one, now those things promote that great mobility and I don't have to address it as much. Well, let's just talk about focusing, hyper focusing on your ankles

and what that did for every part of movement after that. It's like a cascading effect that goes up to kinetic chain where that was at such a point of focus, where if you were able to regain stability, regain that type of mobility, now I can unlock all these other movement potentials with squatting, with even doing overhead pressing and being able to stabilize and control better.

So it's just like, that's why we want a hyper focus on the most difficult area area because a lot of times That's sort of the root of what? Everything else has has gone off from yeah, it's funny because maps prime is the one program that we have that Every single person watching or listening will gain tremendous value from it doesn't matter what your workout is I don't care if it's about what level you are doesn't matter it will improve your ability to do whatever you're doing on your own And all of it it'll improve your performance. It'll improve your ability to build muscle It doesn't matter if you can have targeted mobility work improve your functional flexibility in very specific ways for your body

No matter what you're doing you'll get better at it. So it's like the one thing that I think everybody will benefit. This is such a common question though, like normally it's around fat loss or building muscle. Like everybody always wants to know, like what is the most I can do at once to get the most results the fastest I possibly can? It's like, it's just, it's not a winning strategy to go after it like that.

It's like, look at one or two things that you were never doing before that's going to benefit you the most in one of those zones and you cannot do too much of it. Between every commercial, we recommend at least three times a day in there, it doesn't say you can't do it nine times a day. You were trying to create better movement patterns

the more you practice it, the better of it. It's not like working out, it's different. You're not tearing down, breaking down muscle by doing this, we're just, we're training stuff neurologically, and that the more we do it, the better off you are. So instead of throwing all kinds of different signals at it, all at once, and trying to do that as much as possible, and overloading it and getting to a place where you can't commit to it,

stick to one or two things, and just practice it like crazy until you see a significant difference. Excellent, look, if you like our information or our podcast on our shows, you'll have MindPumpFree.com. Head over there, check out all of our guides. We have guides that help you build muscle, burn body fat, help you with nutrition,

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