Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 173: Failure for Fun & Profit

Episode Date: October 28, 2015

Sal, Adam & Justin reveal their greatest failures & what they have learned from taking risks. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpradio.com "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, pop, mite, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Adam's getting a little more confident. He's singing every once in a while on the show. It's good. But it's one of those times where I feel... Holy, what I...

I totally fucker. Your balls go up into your stomach because... Yeah, it's like one of the it's the only time actually I can think of my life where I feel bad for making for someone else feel better about something about You know, I mean to the worst part to you really I feel good about like oh come on And then they do something like I feel so good. I made that person feel but why did I now he's saying like fuck I should just made him just keep kept him feeling bad about keep encouraging it and I was I was listening.

I was listening the episode we did the other day. And the one where I fucking said warrant instead of pink Floyd. I'm so, what a douchebag move on my mind. No, I feel kind of like, oh, will you eat? Yeah, bro. I'm like a total of like,

you had every right to fucking throw the water on. Dude, we tell him warrant is so easily, we should get think it might be anything. Yeah, anything. It's boring. I mean, same error at least. Fuck, fuck you, bro.

Dude, you know, so when's the last time, when's the last time, because you have right now in your hand a speed stack. When's the last time you had a speed stack? Well, let's talk about the full speed stack. Let's talk about these. It's actually been a really long time. All right, well, why don't you just not drink all things? This is the tame version, because I remember the old ones. Well, the old ones used to have a fed stack. Well, let's talk about the whole speed stack. Let's talk about these right. It's actually been a really long time. All right. Well, why don't you just not drink

all things? This is the tame version because I remember the old ones. Well, the old ones used to have a fedgerate on these. Well, let me read the ingredients. There's still pretty rockin though. So in the on the the ingredients are, and of course, let me see, is it one? Okay. So it's one bottle. There's a touring DM AE Citroene Tyrosine. DMT. Evo diamine bitter orange, which is Sennifrin. Yerba Mate, which is just another type of caffeine. Coco extract, Garana, a Siberi. They put fucking a sion here.

Coco leaves. White tea extract, Jensang, grape seed, green coffee bean, and vinpicitine. So it's just a shit ton of stimulants. Picitine. And let's see, the whole bottle has 250 milligrams of caffeine plus that other stuff in there. Fuck yeah. So it's going to be strong, but not as strong as the ones we used to have.

Oh no, because the other ones used to have all that plus it had 25 milligrams of fat. Yeah, the fedra alkaloids. And it was all the ephedra, then. But we were also like seen to the future. We were also 20 when we had the old ones and now we old, and so I have a bad feeling about this one. Ah, why? Did we get the, what does that thing called, the, the, the, the drink in it?

The, one of those things, yeah, do we have the defibrillator in here now? Cause I have a bad feeling. I, you know, if you forgot to mount it on the, mount it on the, we have all these old stories with the three of us going back to 24 hour fitness days, and we've talked about it on air about these these drinks and speeds actually have we know their poisonous for us. We don't drink them anymore. But I thought I thought due to all the good news that we've

had this last week that I thought you know in the big day that we have going on today that it would be a celebratory for me to bring a speed set. Yeah and I thought this would be a good and then South just totally fucking poo poo don't all of it. He was like, I can't drink that anymore. I can't have that. It's my it makes my it makes my vagina flare up whenever I drink those.

I quit. I was like, all right, bro, whatever. Justin and I'll Justin and I and Doug a Doug, you know, Doug scared to death because South scared to death. So he won't touch it. So looks like Justin and I have two. So I can't wait till you pound that whole thing

and 35 minutes from now when you have an anxiety attack. I'm gonna just make funny. I'm gonna periscope it. I'm gonna be like in the corner over here. No, no, no. I'll be like, hey guys, we're on periscope and that guy in the corner is Adam and Justin cluddling together because they're scared.

They hear, they hear. Well, truth be told, I was sitting at home waiting, killing like I had like 30 minutes before I had to leave to come over here, right? Normally that's when I let my dogs out, do my, do my business over at my house. Which is slang for jerk off. He let the dogs out.

Pretty much. But today, hey, Jada, what are you doing around? Let the dogs out. Oh, we really, we'll give you 10 minutes. We got you. Thank you. And I passed out. I'm trying to open the I'm so tired. Why are you so tired? The number since 345, bro, I've already had a full day of work before you

woke up. I wake up every fucking morning at 3 a.m. What are you talking about? I swear to God to take a piss. Yeah, and then go back to bed. But I still wake up at that time. That does count. So yeah, it's obviously, sometimes I don't wake up, but I always take a piss. This is perfect. I'm dying. I'm tired right now. I'm able to do the speed stack. So you're going to crush the speed stack, be all weird, then crash later.

What are you going to do later after this? In the speed no, I don't know what work. Nothing significant. That's why we're doing this. Yeah, yeah, you're not working out today. No, I'm going to work out today. So you're going to drink this, crash, and then you want to try to work out. Yeah, I'll take a nap and then I. No, I'm a workout today. So you're gonna drink this, crash, and then you're gonna try to workout?

Yeah, I'll take a nap, and then I'll wake up later on, and I'll do it. I think I'm gonna suck. Yeah, you can do suck your workout. Tuesday's in Thursday. It's only a lake extension day today, but anyway. Yeah, yeah, Tuesday's Thursday is lake extension day. So yeah, I try and do rock, silver,

I try and do my machine workouts on Tuesday in Thursday. I lined up a lot of donkey kicks in there. Yeah, add up to your machine. Oh, oh, I got something for you. That's the story I was gonna tell you guys. So lined up a lot of donkey kicks in the, yeah, ad doctor machine. Oh, oh, I got something for you. That's the story I was gonna tell you guys. So I take a picture of it. I'll send it to you guys. So this kid's at gold yesterday,

the golds that I work out, they are, they're wheeling out the ad doctor and ad doctor machines. They're taking them out. They're taking them out, right? They're like a monumental day. So in history. So they're replacing them with the Right. They're like a monumental day in history. So they're replacing them with the best. Well, listen, so this kid is, this kid's rolling them out.

And I asked him, can I take a picture this real quick? And he's like, okay, yeah, sure. And so I'm taking a picture of him rolling out, because I was like, I'll do a post later on about how stupid these machines are, right? And so I tell, and I can tell he was like, wondering why I'm taking a picture. So I tell him, I'm like, you know know, finally you guys get rid of these worthless machines. And he's like, well, you don't like to work your ab doctors and ab doctors out.

And I said, well, yeah, I do. I said, but there's probably a hundred other more effective exercises in the gym to do besides that machine. He's like, oh, well, we're replacing them with new ones. Oh.

I said, you know what? The only reason why those machines are any good with silver is that you guys have strategically placed them facing the squat rack. So when hot chicks come in and squat, they're actually worth doing. That's the only time it's worth doing that exercise. Otherwise, it's pretty much worthless. That's why you put them in front of the mirror.

Yeah, you just put them right in the back. And you walk in. No, they're in a good spot. They face squat racks, like I said. That's good. If I'm gonna do them, that's why I'm like, okay, today might be an abductor day. Abductor day.

Abductctors. Yeah, waste of time machine. Well, you know, this should just wheel those out, wheel out pretty much every other machine that's in there. Easy, easy, easy, easy, easy. You're right. They are. Mr. I fucking work, work out with just stones, stones and stones.

You know what? No, no, no, I do use machines. I probably use every workout one or two machines But it's usually because I'm getting feeling kind of like you know tired or I'm gonna go easy today So I'm gonna use a little bit of a I'll use a hammer strength or you know throw it in there, but Come on man. I mean come on when you got rocks. Come on, bro You can live logs Lift the logs it's log

Live logs. Lift the logs. It's log. Look at that cursor. It's big. It's heavy. It's wood. It's big. It's heavy.

Did you watch that? I just know. What is that? That's from red and stem big. It's heavy. It's heavy. It's wood. No, I didn't.

You know, I was never really. It's better than that. It's good. I was a Garfield guy. Garfield had a cartoon. Garfield's a horrible cartoon. That's not funny at all. Dude, that's the least funny. I like, I like lasagna.

It's so stupid, right? It's sarcastic, bro. I do this for as sarcastic as we are. I'm surprised you guys aren't Garfield. Yeah, but he's like a weak sarcastic. It's not really that funny. Okay, on the country with you. It's your favorite cartoon real quick.

What is it? First cartoon, I like. I like the red and stimpy. Red and stimpy, we had this great time. Really? Dude, red and stimp you. I ran and stimp you way in those great time. Yeah. Really? Dude, ran and stimp you was weird. He had her toast man. Powdered toast man.

And then he like just come out like and he fly backwards. He he farts the sprinkles on top of the toast. I feel like I mean what? Yeah. Who does that? That's whoever invades. That was his super power. It was so smart. He farts.

And then those adults send him in sprinkles. Yeah. And then they have the adults you never saw above their legs, but their knees were covered with like, what were those like, like, model? It was so gross. They do like the, like, the close ups. And then you'd see like rotten teeth and like,

what is Garfield doing? Wait a second here. Wait a second. Ritt and Stimpy, we're too old for Ritt and Stimpy. Ritt and Stimpy, I mean, we would be in high school with the fuck you guys doing watching cartoons in high school still. You don't watch cartoons in high school?

No. What were you doing in high school? Definitely not watching cartoons. Doing more growing up stuff like video games. I definitely watch Ridd and Stimpy. Yes, I showed my kids the other day. And I forgot how gross that cartoon was. I'm showing my son on my, who I should take this.

Oh my god. What did you, what, I should take this. Oh my god. What did you, what did you want to talk about? Oh, you know what? Again, no introduction, no introduction. We need to be more dug. Could you fucking keep us on point with this? Well, I was gonna come in with, sorry Adam. Yeah, you see?

I'm Adam. Massive intro. So the guy who, the guy who's wearing jeans from 1997, who we just are talking is Adam Schaefer. He's actually might be from there. They are. Those jeans. You wanna go to the holy to the...

Are they J.C.O.S? No. You are J.C.O.S. not me. Yeah, you're the only one that I admitted that one. I wore the Zoom Bazzle, which was in bearish. Oh my God, that was a blast. I love empty hammer. That's Justin who's talking.

Yeah, thanks Doug. Hello everybody. I wore Zoom baths pants. Yeah, who didn't do that? And oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, big of a hammer. And this is Sal Tripod de Stefano. Yeah. So what do we, something drop over there?

Yeah, that was one of my clubs. I'm glad. The other thing that I want to tell everybody to is. I thought it was a period of later. We've only, I think we've only mentioned a couple times too, is our handles on social media. So, where you can find us. Yeah, because you know, there's a lot of stuff that we've been posting that relates to the podcast

and there's a lot of shit. It's fitness, yeah, and shit talking that goes on amongst all of us. And yeah, and some good info. Sal likes to post a lot of helpies. So, if you want wanna find any of us, you can find us at, you can find Sal at Mind Pump Sal. You can find Justin at Mind Pump.

Justin, you can find me at Mind Pump Adam and Doug even has a bunch of new pictures on his at Mind Pump Doug. So if you have a good mind pump. Yeah, then the actual Mind Pump page. Where he tucks it between. So I had an idea that I wanted to, something I wanna talk about. So I was

having a conversation with a good friend of mine who's having some challenges with their business and- Kind of businesses. I don't want to go into too much detail because I think they're very private person, but they're just having a lot of challenges. Can you tell us- You can tell us the business. They started a new business. All right, I'll go into it. Photography business. Start

a photography business. Okay. And just getting overwhelmed, you know how it is when you first start a business. You feel like you take two steps forward and you take three steps back. Needing more work, but she busts her ass, she works very, very hard. Then she feels like she can't catch up because she's also got two kids and another job that actually pays the bills. And so I started telling her about some of my challenges because I think sometimes people see other successful people and think to themselves, well, God, they must, they

just got where they were and they didn't really hit any huge challenges or any big roadblocks. And it's, it's, it's never true. It's never true. And so I thought it would be, maybe it's a good idea if we share some of our personal failures, where we have tried something and come up short and maybe, I don't know, how that changed you or maybe it didn't, I don't know. Why don't you start out, since you have the most. The most. Ah!

No. I'll have you know before we start this. What a dick. It's like, I don't think that's failed at anything actually. I've got no stories. I'm, let's see, where do I start here? Since my life is full of failures.

Oh, no, no, you. No, actually this is a cool topic. And it's a cool topic. And I've talked a lot about this, not on the podcast so much, but you notice something that I share with people because I did not have the easiest path ever growing up.

I didn't have anything handed to me. And so everything was a struggle for me. And there was lots of failures along the way. And at one point, you have to learn to actually almost enjoy it as weird as that sounds. And I think it's the people that fail and then never tend to succeed are the ones that they get broken by that. They fall down or they run into a robot. I always like to look at the positive in every scenario, right? So a failure is only a true failure if you don't learn from it or you don't grow from it.

And I believe that every failure and every experience like that is not. It's a success because even if you fail that doing it, you learn something about yourself or you learn something new about business or whatever it may be. And, you know, so I've had lots of, God, I've had lots of businesses that I've tried to start that didn't go very well or very far. And to me, it was just a learning experience. And a lot of it was about myself. And maybe that wasn't I wasn't passionate about something.

Or maybe it was not the right timing for that business or whatever it may be. And maybe when you get going and some of that, I'll come up with some specifics. But one that comes to mind, I had a business that I started. I started a, well, I actually had bought a mobile detailing business. And I've always had a career or something I was doing as far as work. And then I always had side businesses that I did

because I was always in search of more income. And this business, I thought, man, this is a brilliant idea. I'm going to do this mobility. And it was, I think I paid, I want to say a couple thousand dollars to buy it. So there wasn't much to it. It was just like a trailer hitch and all the supplies you needed and the power pressure, pressure washer and it could hitch right at that time. I had a Chevy truck that I could just hitch it to and I could take it places. And the ultimate plan was since I worked a nine to five type job, this is when we were to the gym was that I would have, I'd hire people to do this. And I would set up all the relationships and set the deals up. And then I would pay, you know, two or three two or three guys, X amount of dollars to go wash the cars

and then I would just make a small cut of that. And since there's no time off my back really. It's just extra money. Yeah, just extra money, right? Even if it wasn't a ton of money. Well, the problem that I ran into was just like any business that to get it really going and making enough revenue and so that to make worthwhile,

I had to put a lot of sweat into it myself. So I found myself after work and on weekends and my day off, I would be out fucking washing all these cars because I knew that I had to generate enough revenue. I couldn't find anyone that wanted to work for three hours a week, you know, or I could find part time like that just to, and a random, because people would want their car

washed sometimes at four o'clock At on this day and and so I was like man, it's always so much harder than the teams It does yeah What you know in my mind when I first thought I thought that all this would be so easy, and I'll set this all up and you know It was quite the struggle and I did it for a while and And I would like I said I was finding myself working and and dude And that was making extra good money. I mean, I was you know It was I would cater to high end cars

So if you had like a really nice, you know, Corvette or something like that, and I would come to your work and then get a detail while you're working. So it was quite the deal. And it was, I made good money off of it. It's pretty much purely profit other than the soap and things I had to do and I'd fill the water up

actually at the work that I used to work at. Probably wasn't supposed to do that, but I used the soft water. Don't worry, that bridge is burned. Yeah, right. Soft water from that company. Can't really fall back on that. And long story short, at one point,

I finally bit the bullet and said, okay, this isn't working, this isn't for me. And if I really wanted to probably be successful at that business, I'd have to sacrifice the one that I was currently doing. And it just didn't make sense because I was making way more money working at 24 of fitness than I was washing cars, in order that I really want to wash cars. So I ended up selling the business and I sold it for three times what I bought for because

I actually had a little bit of clientele built up and I could have been some other poor smuck that it was a great idea that, you know, because I thought I was a great idea. It was just time to... That sounds like a great idea that, you know, because I thought it was such a great idea. It was just tied to me. That sounds like a great failure. Well, I mean, to me, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a business that failed. He didn't read the directions. It's okay. It was, it'll come to him later.

It was a business that failed that I failed. I failed. I only made three times as much. I'm stupid. My failure. I go, I'll, I'll, I'll get you a better failure in just a minute. That was the first one I came to mind. They're still fruitful.

What can I say? Fruitful failures. Well, I had one more recently. Oh, yeah. So you guys know I just recently, well, yeah, I guess about a year ago now, I sold my personal training studio. And in this studio, this is a studio

that I started after I left corporate fitness, not right after, because after I left corporate fitness, I went into finance and was bored out of my brain and ended up starting my personal training business. And so I had trainers working in their massage therapists. And at one point, you know, when you own a small business, if you're doing, if you're growing or you're doing okay, you have to think to yourself, okay, now I have to, I have two options there, I keep doing what I'm doing or I invest more and try to make it grow. And so I was at that point, and so I said to myself,

okay, well I'm gonna make another investment and try and grow this thing. And so about two doors down from my studio was another open spot. And so I thought to myself, I'm gonna open up another spot and in that spot, we're going to do group exercise. So like yoga, Pilates, meditation classes, you know, that kind of stuff. And that would bring me more of the EFT, you know, more of the residual

monthly revenue, because people would pay me, you know, 80 bucks a month there. And then on the personal training side, it's much more high revenue but low volume. So I had my high volume, low revenue with the classes and my high revenue, low volume with my training. So that was the plan. And it sounds great, right? Like as I'm saying, it's like that sounds brilliant. So I opened the place up, put a lot of money into it,

but in order to continue financing, I had to continue personal training a lot of money into it, but in order to continue financing, I had to continue personal training a lot of myself. So, it failed. I lost probably about $60,000 in the business. Then I had to try to get out of the lease because I had signed a three-year lease, and this is only like a year into it. So I had to get two years left, which you're stuck with, unless you find else to to fill it. So I had to kind of negotiate with the landlord to all this. A very stressful time and in the meantime, you know while it's empty and I'm not making any money off of it, I'm trying to float an additional $4,000 a month by training more and more clients. At the time, my wife was working less.

It was a very, very stressful time. We got to the point where I was like, okay, I'm gonna have to kind of watch what I'm eating to save money. I couldn't take supplements anymore. And it was a big kick to the balls of my ego. Cause my ego's got massive testicles. Massive.

And I got, they got stomped. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know when you get kicked in the balls and just hurts your stomach, and you feel like throwing up for a little bit. And you go down the ground and you're in the fetal position.

And you cry. And you cry. And it feels, you know, when you get hit in the nuts that hard, to bounce back from it's difficult because of the pain and the fear that's left over. And it was recent. It was more recent that this happened.

So, and you know, like I said, it didn't work that in put enough time, and I didn't have the time to put into it to really make it work. And at that point, I don't want to have any more money to just dump into it to continue floating in. How is that different than my story? Because you sold yours for a profit, you made some money. Well, just because I turned a fucking failure into something good doesn't mean that wasn't a failure still you know you have a more a harder story than that Let me do you guys a solid Well, I was gonna say what I was gonna say is yeah, let's salv finish before the biggest failure goes

They call me the overcomer The comer. Oh, boom. Bing. No, so I was gonna say is when you have something like that, when you when you fail on a monumental level, you lose lots of money, especially when you're not alone. Like if I was a single dude, it's not that big of a deal, but when I had a wife, kids, right, home mortgage. And so you feel like you let the other person down because it's not just your money.

It's their money too, right? And they believe in you. They trust you and boom, I just, you know, blew all this money on this, this idea and this dream I have. It's hard to, it's easy to imagine how hard it is to take another chance after that. But here's the deal. Here's the deal with life because that's not my first business that didn't work. And I won't be my last, the last business that doesn't work. And I won't be in my last, the last business that doesn't work. I guarantee you, there's gonna be something that's gonna try, that's not gonna succeed in the future.

Because why I swing the bat. And I realize something as a kid, that life will pitch you as many balls as you want, as many balls as you're willing to swing at. And so if I strike with with a hard swing in my bat, if I never swing again, that's what I'm left with. That's the last time I was at bat. The last time I was at bat was a strike out. Well, fuck that. I'm not going to go out that way. And so that's the attitude that I had. So I sold it, you know, I got

back on my feet, and then I met Doug. We started training together, put together the math program. Obviously, we're doing mind pump. Now, so this is the next big thing. And I sold my gym. And this is, this is on, looks like the road to success. But you just got to keep swinging the bat. That's just the bottom line because one thing I'm 100% confident in in myself is, I will always be able to get on my feet and do something. So no matter how bad it gets, I'm never going to starve. Because I know I work hard and I'll get up my feet and do something. So no matter how bad it gets, I'm never gonna starve. Because I know I work hard, and I'll get up there and make it happen. I love here you give us poor analogy.

It's so good. I smile at him. I'm just faking like he's smiling. I go, I go, I just go, I'm watching, he's gonna fuck something up right now. He's gonna say, he's gonna say. You know when you swing the bat and you make it touchdown. Yeah, exactly. Like he's gonna say some shit right now.

Just because I don't... If you keep swinging away at that bat, you're eventually gonna get a goal. I promise. Just because I don't watch this, it's poor, so I'm gonna know the basics. Okay. I love it.

Oh god, love you, bro. I fucking love you. I can give you, yeah. Okay, before the failure goes real quick, I want you to... The overcomer. Oh, I mean, the overcomer, it. I love you. I can give you. Yeah. Okay. Before the failure goes real quick. I want you. I want you to overcomer. Oh, I mean, the overcomer. It's what I meant. You hit the wall, Justin. Yes. Call me the overcomer. Now from from that scenario, though, what happened to you as far as what came of it as far as of learning experience. What about relationships that were built in 100% right 100% I wouldn't have met you know Doug.

I wouldn't have been doing this. I wouldn't have considered even selling my. Oh you that's how you met Doug. I started coming in he was coming in and do the group back. No, no, no, he started training with me. But what I mean here for Zumba $80 a month, signed me the fuck up. Exactly, exactly.

Exactly, exactly. But my point is I would have, there's so many things that come out of it that are positive. Of course it's always looking back. Look the when you're in the middle of a fail You know all you're thinking yourself is this fucking sucks. I wish this would never happen I guarantee you if you have the inventality where you're gonna continue pushing and going either a different idea Maybe the same idea just a different way you will look back after all said and done you'll say I'm glad that happened It's just it's just a way to look, every super successful person

you'll ever meet who's self-made has failed hard and has failed hard more than you have. That's the difference between success and some of the never succeed. It's that they failed more times. That's a fact, it's a little fact. This is not not necessarily business related, but like the first story that comes to mind for me,

I always identified myself as a great, awesome athlete, any sporting event or anything I would take on and I just was like, you know, fished water. And so I excelled in football and I had all the accolades, all that kind of stuff in high school and I had college recruits after me and people trying to get me to go to their college and you know I was I was at the time was getting distracted and had dropped was failing chemistry. And this was a problem because I ended up not finishing all of my labs and getting a frickin' F. And I've never failed any class. That's weird, because you're our chemistry.

I am. When I look at you, we have chemistry. Yeah, yeah. Don't get Adam jealous. Yeah, keep going. That was a dumb joke. So you got an F. That was a dumb joke.

There was a bloody point that out. That was a dumb. You got an F. That was a dumb joke. It was. I'm glad you pointed that out. That was a distracting joke. Yeah. Hey, you just got to swing comments until the end. Yeah, swing the bad dude. I must say again. It'll come.

It'll come a little more naturally next time. I made a bad joke on my pump. That was a fail. That was a fail. I'll start tracking it. Chuck that up for another failure. Okay. Alright, I'll get through my fail here and we'll get back to that.

So yeah, so I basically blew my chance to go to a couple schools because of this. And it wasn't until I did a lot of convincing and talked to the coaches and a couple of people at Sanzi State that I got accepted into the to the school and Even then I was just a walk on right so I'm a walk on not guaranteed any kind of scholarship any of that I actually got a scholarship which ironically I got a scholarship for my academics from this other

My dad's work actually I qualified for it and I applied for it. I got this grant. And so I ended up going to school at San Jose State and was a walk on. And so as a walk on, you are a piece of shit. I'm just gonna go ahead and put it out there. Any of you walk on's out there trying to make it on, you know, a big,

a big, a big, a big deal on the back of one. Yeah, well a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, a big, big, a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big and I was ready for, and I was just still little. I was coming out of high school and probably like 185, maybe 190 on a good day. And so I'm going against these killers. These guys are like 250, 300 pounds, like fastest fuck. You know, my fastest 40 time at the time was like, you know, four nine, you know, which is the slowest dog shit. And yeah, like, but I was really fast on the field,

very fast game speed, you know, I totally prided myself in that and smarter than everybody else. Like I did a lot of studying, you know, and knew, you know, my place on the field, you know, knew how to get proper angles, made a lot of tackles, but they didn't give a shit about that.

They just cared about my numbers. And so I went through this whole process where they just put you through the grinder, you have to go through these 6am morning workouts, and then they just try and beat you until basically submission. And then you get tested every now and then, and you're 40 to see if your time is increasing, and then in the weight room. And the weight room was killing everybody. I was doing a lot more weight than anybody,

so they actually, the strength conditioning coach was like, yeah, you got a real good shot at this. Just let's get your speed up. And I went through this whole process. We get to the very end. It's spring ball. You know, like I have the head coach and everybody like, yeah, you know, here's your time. You got a shine, you know, and all this stuff.

And to be completely honest, I got convinced to drink the night before. And I went into this like a little bit like hungover. Like an idiot. An idiot. An idiot. Just bad voice. Just bad choice. Horrible choice.

Young kid. Epic fail. Right? So then I go into this. I'm running a 40 diagonally. I ran my 40 like, I off the line. I was running and it was like in a diagonal line. It wasn't even like perfectly straight.

If I were to ran perfectly straight, I probably would have got like, you know, a better 4-8, 5-4-8. So then look at you afterwards, they well, you broke a record today. It's not the fastest time. It's actually the slowest fucking time we've actually ever tracked before.

Seriously, like the coach was like, okay, do this again and try running straight. You know, I'm like trying to coach you. I'm like, yeah, try. I'm trying to do it in like, I just kept failing and the strength initially, because he's like, I'm sorry, man, you know, you didn't make it. You didn't make the team. And I was just, I just remember just being crushed. Wow. And I was just like, fuck, I put it like, did you cry? No, I didn't cry.

Oh, you did it? No. I don't cry. I'm not. No, I don't cry. I don't cry. I almost cried right now. I cried. I feel bad right now. I cried probably, you know, when I was done with my football career, I cried. Of course, yeah, I see. But it's okay to cry. But Adam Cresn, the SX.

I didn't cry after that because I was so pissed at myself. Like I let myself down. And, but it led to more opportunities. I ended up playing rugby after that. And it was great. And then some coach was talking to my dad and wanted to, he's like, oh, he plays football, blah, blah, gave him my film.

And then I ended up playing out in Chicago with a scholarship. So, it was just like. It worked the way it was booked out. You know, and then I got a whole new experience and opened up like just, I don't know, like I wouldn't trade it for the world, but the same time it's crushed.

Of course. Well, your story is great because it points out something. And what it points out is that many times, what's in our way is ourselves. You know, I'd say pretty much every time I've ever screwed up, it was because something that I did or didn't do or because of the attitude that I had or because I wasn't, you know, putting the effort or the positivity

or I wasn't feeling confident. I'd say that we are our own biggest obstacles nine at a 10 times. You know, all the great points, that's a great point. Well, something that I think, and that's why I was searching for that with Sal's story, is I feel like, I mean, there's tons of these small failures in our life that probably felt,

you know, huge at the time for us, but they always seem to open another door because of the attitude that we take towards it. And it's kinda like, so the thing is- It's not easy. Let's be honest, that attitude is sometimes, it's not just like natural, it's not like I fail, and then naturally I'm like, oh cool,

I'm gonna fucking learn from it. Yeah, no. You have to look, like literally, I mean, this is the first time I think I've ever told anybody, ever. I don't even think I've ever told learn from it. Yeah, no. You have to look, like literally, I mean, this is the first time I think I've ever told anybody, ever. I don't even think I've ever told my wife this. I will look in the mirror, look at myself, and talk to myself, I'll look in the mirror, literally.

Sometimes you have to do that. After a major, like, like that recent one I told you about, I had to look at myself in the mirror every morning and say to myself, you will succeed. This was just a minor setback. You're gonna learn from this and you're gonna make it happen. And I had to like, say it out loud and talk to myself because it takes practice.

It doesn't happen naturally. It's the reason why the word committed is tattooed on my form. It's for me, that's a reminder always. Like, when I set my mind to something, I don't give a shit what it is. Whether it be sports, whether it be business, relationship, doesn't matter.

Like if I make a decision in my head like, this is what I'm going to go after this one, I'm going to do, I'm going to find a win. It may not be the way I thought it was going to be or planned out just like you with the whole, you know, you had this envision, oh, I'm going to have the studio. It's going to be like this, it's going to be like that. Like, I don't know how many times I've started after something. I mean, fuck, even Justin and I, the way we start a business and how the mind pump is An example of multiple failures of him and I doing stuff, you know, I'm saying like we never looked at it It is and I would bring those up but like there

There's still there's still part of the culmination of what my pump is of course, you know, and like there's there's still attached To what we're doing but yeah, we've gone's still attached to what we're doing. But yeah, we've gone through so many things where we're like, oh my god, I know nothing about this area. But fuck it, we're gonna do it. Because I believe in you, you believe in me. You know what I mean? And then we just get exposed to other awesome people on the way. And it develops into something that was supposed to be anyway. Well, when people see that we put zero fucks on our shirts, they think it means that we are walk around and, you know, whatever, like cocky.

No, zero fucks means that. Yeah. It means we don't, a lot of times you're not gonna know, you're not gonna be confident because you've never done something before, but you don't give a shit anyway. You, that's the attitude you go in with. Like, I don't care. I'm gonna do it anyway.

And, a couple of things, and I, Lane Norton said this, and it's one of my favorite things I've ever heard him say anyway. And a couple things, Lane Norton said this, and it's one of my favorite things I've ever heard him say, is that when you're building a business like that, it's the battle of attrition. And very few people can handle that battle. Everybody expects they're gonna go after this, new business or new venture,

and that if they do X, Y, and Z, it's gonna equate to success, if they do X, Y, and Z, it's going to equate to, you know, success and the business will start running and it never works out that way. It's almost always that it takes longer, that it costs more money, that it's more difficult than you could ever plan. It was going to be. And if you go into those scenarios with that mentality and you expect it to be challenging, you expect to

fall, then I feel like it will never really be a complete failure because even those small failures will end up turning into something else because and that's the whole mentality of the committed. I'm committed to everything that I do because I will not fucking stop. It may end up transforming into a podcast and a radio show. And I had and and if you asked me two years ago, I would have told you, I would have had no clue that's where it was gonna evolve to,

but it really is an evolution of what something that got started over two years ago when Justin and I first started doing business together and fitness. And I feel like every scenario, all the failures I have to tell you, in and in something like that. And whether it be a business

that was successful or I always like to talk about too, and I've shared this with you guys before, your, your net worth is your net circle. Um, I love that saying because, uh, relationships are so important to me. And I feel like a lot of times I'll do something that, you know, may seem like a failure to somebody else because it didn't pan out business wise or I didn't make millions of times I'll do something that may seem like a failure to somebody else because it didn't pan out business-wise or I didn't make millions of dollars off of it. But if I built strong relationships because of it or from it, to me, that's just as successful as the business turning out.

Because I don't know how many times that later down the road, that relationship ends up paying off somewhere else, maybe with a different business or ends up getting you a job somewhere else. And I know for sure you ends of getting you a job somewhere else. And I know for sure you guys know that, I've shared that with you guys before. That's very true. It's always about who you know. Yeah. And very little is about what you know.

And it sounds cliche, right? Because everyone's heard that before. But how many people really go into that when they go into a business or think about that when they meet somebody like that? I always value my relationships and value the people that spend the time to give me their time or to help give a linting hand to me or do business with me. And it's very hard. It's hard because the bigger you get and the more relationships you have, the harder it

is to manage that. It's not that easy to always get back to this person via email or text message or phone call or as that net circle grows, so does the commitment to trying to stay up with all of them. So, but I can't stress how important that is in being successful. Well, I think it's the, there's really, you know, you have to look at a challenge and you have to be able to circle around and somehow, I don't necessarily place the blame on yourself, but find something that you didn't do that you could do next time. That's the learning experience. I hate when people or even myself will do something that doesn't necessarily succeed,

and then it's about the blame goes on something someone controllable. Oh, it was the economy or the market changed or it wasn't a nice day or people, I mean, those are things you can't control. And what am I gonna learn from that anyway? What am I gonna learn from? Have I say my business didn't succeed because the market wasn't good?

What the fuck does that mean? What can I learn from that? Okay, now what? What next, trying guess when the market is good? What the fuck does that mean? Like, what can I learn from that? Okay. Now what? What next? Trying guess when the market is good? I, you see what I'm saying? I see a sign of weakness anytime I see someone talk like that. Right. Anytime someone tells, if I ask you like, oh, hey, how'd that go? Or, oh, what happened with this? You're doing that. And you respond to me like all these outside forces, like, like you said,

the market or, oh, this or, oh, it didn't work out because of this person, like they point the finger everywhere else, like you always know somebody who either one is going to be successful or already is because they always take ownership on every failure. Anytime something doesn't work out, it's always like, you know what, I didn't have the time and put the time in to making this happen or, you know, I gave up this, you know, it's always, I did, I didn't do something or I did something for it to cause that, you know, and I ownership. And just to take it to fitness, you know, a lot of people out there trying to get in shape lose weight, especially weight loss, or even building muscle, it's, it's not a linear,

you know, success. It's, it's, you know, littered with failures. Oh, yeah. Five steps forward, 10 back. Yeah. Oh yeah, five steps forward, 10 back. Yeah, and it's three more forward, 10 more back. And you have to learn from those things. You have to save yourself. Well, you know what?

I was doing so well. I lost 15 pounds. I gained 10 pounds back because I gave in. I decided to have cheat days or I started going out again and just started hanging out with the wrong people. Or I made, it wasn't a priority for myself anymore. Those are the kinds of things you wanna say and learn from, not it's my genes, it's my genetics,

or you know, it's just hard. How you fucking hate that? That is the stupidest, that is the stupidest excuse in the world. And you know what, everybody says it, it's hard. No shit, it's hard. Okay, so, I mean, it is hard. So what?

Like, would it be awesome if it wasn't hard? How great would success be if it was easy? There are so many parallels in fitness and business. I think they're so similar. I mean, and when you look at some of the people that really, really grasp that, like, and I think of right away, like the Joe Donnelly's, the Craig Capersos, they get that.

I'm saying they get that. It is like that, which is why they are in supreme fitness shape, and then they're extremely successful in business, too, because they get the parallels and they understand that it takes the same type of commitment, the same type of sacrifice, the same type of ownership in what you do. You got to own that shit. you said so many weak-minded people are so quick, the whole accountability ladder, right? They're so quick to blame others and point the finger.

Well, it takes a certain level of maturity and courage. What it does, it can't be arrogant either. I mean, going into these challenges, you have to be really, you you have to constantly be humbled, because if you're going in like, and something doesn't work out the way that it always has, or it's unpredictable in a sense, like you have to be able to be resilient,

be able to bounce back from this adversity, because you're gonna face a lot of obstacles. And if you feel like everything is always gonna work out on this projected line, like I ran out of business plan, which business plans are hilarious to me because none of that shit is ever panned out in the-

It never looks like a plan. Never. And bankers love that shit They're like oh, I want to see it all on your projections for us. Guess what? You know like the only way that all that is gonna happen is is blood sweat and tears and and going through failure Failure is what creates you know this next level of Accomplishment and if you're not willing to to through the fire, then it's just not going to have the whole arrogant comment. That's what I'm talking about. Like, yeah, if you're so arrogant

that you feel like you can never fail. When you do fail, it can't be my fault. Well, no, it can't be my fault. It's everybody else's fault. I can't fail. I'm not a failure. So you have to, there's a certain level of personal responsibility that you have to, there's a certain level of personal responsibility that you have to accept. And this takes some maturity because it is difficult. It takes a lot of courage to say, the reason why I'm not where I wanna be is because of me. Because now I'm responsible.

That takes a lot of courage. It's easy to say the reason why I'm not the way where I wanna be because of someone else. That's easy because I the reason why I'm not the way where I want to be because of someone else, that's easy because I don't have. Partnership failed because my partner did this and that and this and that to me. Oh yeah, what did you provide? Right, right.

What could you have maybe done better? Right, or maybe you picked a bad partner and you decided to stick with them when you should have not. Well, I love you, right, ownership. I love that you just entouched on humility because I don't know if you remember, Justin or not, but you used to preach this to the trainers all the time that in order to be a successful trainer You have to have this super balance of being super confident borderline almost cocky at the same time super humble

Yeah, to me, it's one of the most Dynamic balances that you have to get that walking contradiction, but it is totally work It is you got to have both you got up you have to deal with. Walking contradiction, but it is. Totally work. It is. You gotta have both. You have to have this confidence about you, but then at the same time, you gotta be able to humble yourself.

And that's hard to do. It's hard to have both. And you tend to have one or the other. And I used to see this all the time with trainers. And if you only got one or the other, you don't ever really make it. Like you end up, if you're the super cocky guy, like maybe for a little while, you make it then in a blown up in your face Like you end up, if you're the super cocky guy, like maybe for a little while,

you make them then and it blown up in your face, you know? Or if you're the super humble person, yeah, you know, everybody really likes you, but you kind of suck at what you do. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah. So finding that balance of being super, super, you know, confident in yourself at the same time too, being humble, you know?

Well, I think that really is the recipe why we've all done what we've done. Because I believe each one of us has that, you know. Well, I think that really is the recipe why we've all done what we've done. Because I believe each one of us has that, you know, it's, and maybe some swayed a little more on the scale of cocky or, you know, you can say it. You can say it, you can say it because we all know that everybody listens are just like, yeah, Adam's the ego. No, no, no. Adam's the cocky, this and that, you know.

Yeah, but people know you, you know what I mean? That know you, that you're a humble guy. No, I think that's part of your comedy. It's not you, it's not you out, it's your part of your comedy and it comes across that way. Right, yeah. It's a caricature. Yeah, you don't come across as a cocky asshole, just an asshole.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. An approachable asshole. Just kidding. Yeah. No, I meanachable assholes. Just kidding. Yeah. No, I mean, I love nothing more than to be humbled. I mean, honestly, God, I love meeting someone and being blown the fuck away. Well, you're saying being proven wrong.

Yeah, you say it all the time that you love your paradigm to be shattered. And I think that's another thing that's common between all three of us. I think we all kind of like that. Oh, yeah. I think we all, you know, even the things that we feel the most confident about that we're so certain, you know,

that, oh, this is how it's gonna play out of this one, B, it's like, and then it blows up in your face. It's like, oh, well, I learned something today. Yeah, I feel like I've learned a lot just from both you guys, you know, in general, and I feel like, you're welcome. Yeah. Actually more from Adam, but sexual.

Boom. But what I'm, I feel like that whole, I want to be a constant student, right? I want to, I want to always learn and that's, this is how you grow. Let's just be honest. Another great, great, great point. Growth happens when you, you know, you have to have that humble aspect where, where you're a student. If I'm next to somebody who is really strong in one area,

but maybe I think they're stupid and others, I'll still learn from the area they're strong in. Absolutely. So everybody's got something to teach me. That is such a phenomenal point. And that is that goes back to the whole confident and humility thing, right? Because people that are really confident have a hard time doing that.

And I can think of some confident people right up top of my head that we all have relationships with that when they meet another really confident successful person, instead of being humbled and wanting to pick and learn from that person, they feel threatened. Yeah. They feel threatened and then they're closed-minded. And it's such a shame because it's like,

wow, you're around somebody who could really help you grow in an area that you're trying to work on or focus on and yet you're so stubborn about how intelligent and how smart you are. What you are, you're a very intelligent smart, smart fitness guy or girl, but yet you have, you have, well, as you guys, and you guys have heard the term cognitive dissonance. So this, and this is a, it means the psychological phenomena. When your beliefs, you know, all of our beliefs, right? Everything you believe makes up who you are. And when somebody presents you information

that is opposite of your beliefs. In order to understand and accept those new beliefs that are now been proven correct, you have to be confident enough in yourself to be able to shatter who you are, to break down who you are. If you're not willing to go in a cocoon every once in a while and emerge something different, then you're never going to grow and you're never going to succeed.

You have to be willing to go and it's painful. Nobody wants to shed their skin. It is a very painful thing. It was painful for me to learn that eating a certain way didn't produce muscle building or that body parts blitz weren't effective for me, for example. It was painful.

Why? Because I taught it for so fucking long. So now all of a sudden it's who I am. Now you're coming at me with this new information and the first thing I'm gonna do is say, no, fuck you, you're wrong. You have to be wrong. You have to be wrong. I have to be right.

There's no way I could be wrong. But you have to, you have to, you know, look for it. You have to search for that, that paradigm shattering, that, okay, well, let me look and see what this evidence is, and wow, that is completely contrary to everything that I've ever known. And when you can go into that, it feels awesome.

It feels great because then you know what's on the other end of that. What's on the other end of that is growth. The end of that is everything that was difficult for you before becomes easier. When you can accept these types of things, this new information, or these challenges and learn from them, there is no limit to how far you can go. And that's an amazing feeling, but it is not an easy thing to do. It is absolutely not an easy thing to do.

No, I mean, imagine if someone came at you and said, you know, Sal, we've got some evidence or, you know, Justin, we've got some evidence that, you know, leg extensions build muscles more than squats. I'd be like, oh, man. Yeah, right? I've been talking so much shit. Yeah, and you know what's funny?

We would have to get on this podcast and tell everybody. And we would. We would do that. But a lot of people wouldn't. A lot of people wouldn't do that. No, of course not. Ladies and gentlemen, that last statement was not true, by the way.

The extensions. You're not build more muscle than squats. This is why we still are just like, ah, you're dumb. Yeah. So that's, I mean, that's, I guess, it in a nutshell, is your failures, go into something, feeling, knowing you're gonna succeed that you're gonna bust your ass,

and if it doesn't work, know that you can get back up on your feet and you can go forward again. It's almost like a race to see how many failures you can get under your belt to become super successful. It's like how many can, how many walls can I run into before I finally break through, right? Bro, here's a deal. It's like how many can, how many walls can I run into before I finally break through, right? Bro, here's a deal.

It's like getting into a fight and you're seeing. It's like getting into a fight with a tough formidable opponent, which is life, and thinking to yourself, you're not gonna get punched in the face. Or get your ass kicked. Yeah, you're gonna get your ass kicked. It's gonna hit.

It's gonna hit. You're gonna get hit. But you're gonna be tough. You're gonna be tough as nails after you get your ass whooped about 50 times. That's right. Yeah. Look at Doug. You're gonna be tough. You're gonna be tough as nails after you get your ass whooped about 50 times. That's right. Yeah. Look at Doug.

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