Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1766: How to Develop Explosive Power, Combining Bodyweight Training With Traditional Weight Training, Ways to Reduce Fatigue When Transitioning From Low Rep to High Rep Training & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: March 9, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Why your back pain may be due to something you are NOT even thinking about. You may have WEAK hip flexors! (4:13) Mind Pump’s favorite gyms. (16:30) Vitamin C and its effects on muscle adaptation. (24:11) A home buyer report and speculating on if and when the bubble will burst. (26:28) Why most people are 80% vegan. (33:19) Magic Spoon has invaded Justin’s high school football team. (35:51) Vuori is EVERYWHERE! (46:06) When a frozen penis happens. (48:26) #ListenerLive question #1 - What are some ways to reduce soreness and fatigue when transitioning from low reps to high reps? (51:57) #ListenerLive question #2 - How can I bridge MAPS programs to fit my traveling lifestyle? (1:01:29) #ListenerLive question #3 - How can I stay jacked and be a good mountain bike rider? (1:13:03) #ListenerLive question #4 - How can I develop explosive power to incorporate into my pro wrestling training? (1:20:25) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] March Promotion: Limited Time Power Bundle! MAPS Strong and MAPS Powerlift for the low price of $79.99 FIX LOWER BACK PAIN By Deactivating Your Hip Flexors! | Mind Pump TV UNLOCK Tight Hips With This Hip Flexor Stretch! - Mind Pump TV How to Perform a 90/90 Hip Stretch (HIP FLEXOR STRETCH) - Mind Pump TV How To Do A Turkish Get-Up – Mind Pump TV Add Windmills to Your Workout to Increase Your Deadlift Strength – Mind Pump TV Muscle Beach Venice Santa Cruz Power Fitness, a fit community Big Tex Gym - Train Like You Mean It MI40 Gym Metroflex Gym Bev Francis Powerhouse Gym Differential effects of vitamin C or protandim on skeletal muscle adaptation to exercise | Journal of Applied Physiology Real-Estate Investors Bought a Record 18% of the U.S. Homes That Sold in the Third Quarter Arnold Schwarzenegger Said Vegan Diet Lowered 'Bad' Cholesterol Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Watch The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel - Season 1 | Prime Video Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Cross-country skier Remi Lindholm suffers frozen penis in mass start race How Do I Choose The Right Weight? (LIFT RESPONSIBLY) - Mind Pump TV MAPS Fitness Anywhere Comparison of muscle hypertrophy following 6-month of continuous and periodic strength training MAPS Fitness Anabolic MAPS Fitness Performance MP Hormones Mind Pump #1240: The Muscle Building & Fat Burning Effects Of Oly Lifting With Sonny Webster Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Marlon Shamell (@shamell_fitness)  Instagram Max Schmarzo (ATC/CSCS/MS) (@strong_by_science)  Instagram Tom Van Ruiten (@tvrisme)  Instagram Damian Chambers (@therealdamianchambers)  Instagram Sonny Webster (@sonnywebstergb)  Instagram

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You may have weak hip flexors. Oh yeah. Are you trying to call me out, so. I am. Okay, here's why I bring this up. So nine out of 10 times, if you have a client with back pain, it's like weak core stability. You need hip mobility, some of those wires. Yeah, and posture.

Yeah, contributing facts. And what you don't typically want to do is do direct hip flexor work because their hip flexors are already tight, trying to stabilize, and direct hip flexor work tends to make back pain worse in a lot of people. Yeah. trying to stabilize and direct hit flex to work tends to make back pain worse than a lot of people. However, in some cases, that's not the case. So I'll use an example, it's personal to me and then of course, Justin, we talked about this morning. So my wife had, she's been having this back pain that just like on and off for a while, training her core. She's working on her hip, she's doing 90 90,

she's doing stability. She's like, it's so weird, I can't figure it out, I'm doing deadlifts and my back just doesn't feel right at this low back pain. And then our friend, Marlon, a great trainer, him and I were talking through DMs and he goes, dude, you'll never get. So he goes, I've been having this kind of chronic, and he's a great deadlifter, right? He's like, I've been having this kind of chronic back pain. And I couldn't figure out the problem was he goes, and then I started to do direct hip flexor work. He goes, because I thought,

well, that's the only thing that's left. There's maybe my hip flexor's a week and he goes, my back pain was gone. I did the same thing with Jessica. And so, like, basic, right? I have her lay on the floor and literally just lift one leg to kind of work one hip flexor and then do the same thing with the other.

Basic work and it took away the back pain. And then I told you about that, because you've been having back pain. And it's been way too long. So there's been a few months of like just in and out, like waking up and I'm like, do I need a new bed? Do you, am I not strengthening my core as much?

I've been really focused on core strengthening and it's been battling at the whole time. I even moved from any kind of like barbell training to more gymnastic and rings and body weight style, intensive training. And it actually was starting to give me a lot of relief and benefit. And then I realized, I was a lot more focused on leg lifts

and I'm a lot more focused on more hip flexor, specific tie back exercises where I'm like trying to strengthen. strengthen it started to really start to bring in even more relief So it's it that was something I wouldn't have even thought of what do you okay? So what what do you guys what are the three of those Marlon Jessica and you having common? What do you think it what do you think is? Attributing to that and for those three people or in general like who I think active and strong and the hip flexors play a very vital role in stabilizing the core. But, you know, okay, Jessica did lots of direct hip work, lots of direct core work, no direct

hip flexor work. She also doesn't run, you know, because we're not runners, she doesn't do any, you know, like any kind of athletics that require lots of hip flexor work. Marlon's same thing. He does lots of that other work and we're trained as trainers to not do direct hit flex or work unless you're training an athlete. Like if I'm training an athlete, especially sprinters, then we'll do hit flex or work, but usually you don't do it because because people use that instead of abs.

Yeah, absolutely. So I think that's what's in common with the three of them. Like, same thing with Justin, you were an athlete for a long time. You had plenty of hip flexion. Yeah, it was never a problem. It's literally like, I don't do any cardio. I don't know if you guys have been a big influence on that on me or not.

But just my shift, I'm gonna defer all responsibility here. But yeah, I actually, I used to do it quite frequently. I would make sure that I'm either running or I'm doing some kind of circuit where I'm definitely moving my body aggressively, cardiovascularly, and I just haven't been doing it at all. I've been sitting a lot and in traffic, I'm also sitting like driving home.

And so it's just like, and then I'm still building and I'm working on strength training, but just neglecting completely any kind of activity in my hip flexor. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, so I mean, if you look at the core, there's another muscle that's involved in course ability. I don't think this is an issue with,

definitely not with you, which is the lower lats. Like you look at the attachment of the lower lats, and then you look at the hip flexors, and of course the core musculature and the hips. That's all they're all involved in stabilizing the lumbar spine. And so, and this is classic, right? I've only had this happen a couple of times with clients

where you go down the list of the most common issues to solve an issue, to solve a pain problem. And you're like, okay, it's not that, it's not that. And I've gotten, to solve a pain problem, and you're like, okay, it's not that, it's not that, it's not that. And I've gotten, there was a couple times where I got really frustrated trying to figure everything out. And then I just went down to the basics and said, what else is involved in this ish area?

And then I went and worked that, and then lo and behold, you know, there it was. But interesting, I wonder if I'd benefit from it at all. I wondered too, because you're, you know, you have anterior pelvic tilt, so your tendency is probably to think the opposite. Oh, it flexors are probably, right, right, it at all. I wondered too because you're you know, you have anterior pelvic tilt So your tendency is probably think the opposite. Oh, flexors are probably right right. It's won't work I know but think about it this way. When do you ever train your hip flexors? Yeah, well, I have a lot of sex You know a lot more than you guys probably

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We're talking about pulling money out of our cow. It's no kind of crazy shit like that. I mean, if it got really desperate, would you make sex videos for money? Uh-huh. Oh, I feel, I mean, there's nothing that's off the table if you're desperate. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like at what, like how desperate do you have to be financially,

right, before you make sex videos with your wife? Whoa. I'm not gonna get in the corner. Oh, so you would, well, good luck with that. No. It's like, I'm gonna make sex videos, but not with my wife. Oh, man. No, I'm not gonna make it with any of my face.

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I mean, you have to know me to know it's me, right? So if you don't know me. You guys have like really distinctive tattoos. It would be totally obvious. That's true. Although I could probably, you know, sleeve up or you know, wear long sleeve shirt. Just wear a shirt.

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Yeah, we're not making any money doing that Yeah, I hate to tell you but but okay back to the hip flexor thing What do you think about yourself Adam because all joking aside joking aside, you don't do any of that. Yeah, no, I don't. And to the exact point that you said, of anything, I'm not thinking that way at all. Although I'm not suffering from any low back pain right now. So I tell you what though, I mean,

it has, came and went in my lifting career. So if and when that arises again, I will address that. I know personally, if there's a thing that we're being honest here, right, about things that we neglect and we don't do, it's core work for me. Yeah. 100%, I don't do enough direct core work and ab work

that I should do. I know that that's in there. And I know if when I do that, I feel great. I feel very supported in my hips and my low back. And technically right now, I should be doing that and I feel great. I feel very supported in my hips and my low back. And technically right now, I should be doing that and I haven't been, but in part of it is because I haven't felt it.

I haven't felt any issues knowing it. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. For me, for core, I'm relatively consistent. I'm very consistent with it. I'd say you're the most consistent with it. Yes, but that's, I mean, what you're comparing me against you guys, so it's not. Well, I don't think I've ever seen two weeks go by,

and I don't see you doing that work. I do it once a week. So when I say it once a week versus everything else, which is usually two or three days a week, but so it's not as consistent as it used to be. But here's what I do notice, is if I take a week off or whatever and I come back, my strength is still there,

but my stability's gone a little bit. And then if I do a very intense core exercise like dragon flags, which I like them because they really develop my abs, right? They stick out and I like that feeling like having that turtle shell out. I love it. But you know what problem is it's so intense, right? So I'll do like six, seven reps, low reps. I'll feel good. Then if I squat or something the next day, I'll end up, my risk of hurting my back is through the roof. Because my core, you know, I fatigued it. You're still lifting heavy on the squatting when you're doing it when you probably should

scale way back on the squatting. You know where I get the most benefit from is a bleak work. Man, if I train my rotation, I feel so damn stable when I do everything else. More so than if I train my abs personally Well, I remember when we but you went on the kick and so did I after Justin introduced the windmills to us and I felt I haven't done those in a while. I know and I'm and either of I and I know I'm kind of due for that that in my routine And it's it's it's been on my mind for a while that and both Turkish kid ups and windmills two movements I absolutely love and recommend all the time and I need

to take my own advice because it's been a while since I've programmed them and I just know I feel great. Are you just and do you still, there was a second there where you were practicing the bent press when our bent press? I haven't still, you know I didn't, I haven't been doing that. So this is me kind of coming back into the whole functional side of things. For a while there I was really just trying to kind of do some basic compound lifts with like bodybuilder style, like hypertrophy, and just out of a change in a shift.

But yeah, I'm totally pulling myself back in to the functional side of things and been doing kettlebell swings. I've been teaching the kids at high school kettlebell swings and just trying to kind of, you know, emulate that myself. So I've been training with the kettlebell, with the gymnastic rings pretty much. I used to go on big kicks of training outside and I would have rings and in kettlebells and I would do everything pretty much out there. I love outdoor workouts. The Ben Press was really interesting. I have a lot of trouble with that kind of rotation, lateral stability, but what's interesting about it is that was a staple feed of strength with strong men at the beginning of the 19th century

or the 18th century, excuse me, 20th century I should say. And it was incredible the amount of weight these guys could lift. You're talking about one arm, 300 pound bent press. Now they were very strong, but also their technique must have been incredible. They must have been able to really max. It's all about dispersing that force, you know, and like being able to get bypass it so it doesn't just leak out at your shoulder and you're able to kind of get it, you know, going through your torso all the way down. Yeah. It's like, it's totally a technique where,

when you get good at it, you know, you can really kind of start stacking away. Yeah, because I feel like they would position themselves with the barbell, walk me through this, right? And then, rather than lifting the barbell, they would move their arm down while lifting their arm at the same time. They're moving it down, so yeah, I guess the gravitational forces

aren't quite as intense with that. I don't really know how to explain and articulate it, but it's kind of like coaching somebody through a squat where you break at the knees and the hips at the same time. It's your pressing and hinging at the same time. We're like an Olympic lift where they pop the barbell and then get underneath it. Yeah. Type of deal, right? You got to get really good at packing your shoulder and being able to kind of like keep that super stable. So there's no, you know, muscular fatigue with it there. It just kind of goes right through you.

Yeah, speaking of outdoor workouts as a kid, it was my favorite. Absolute favorite thing you do to be outside lifting weights, the sun and the wind and all that stuff. I would really love, and I don't have you guys ever worked out at Muscle Beach down in LA. I did once and I just like being outside with the weights. I wish more gyms had that like an open. Well, there's actually a lot of things. Our buddy over at Santa Cruz Power Fitness, he built an all out because of COVID. Because of COVID, actually a lot of these places did. I know the UFC gym guys, they did it also.

So there's quite a few places because of COVID now, have built like an outdoor place for you to live, which is kind of cool. Oh, I love that. It's just such a great feeling, like better pumps, even if it's hot or cold, it's just a great... I mean, what's cool about Venice is like, it's common practice to be shirtless,

and it's like taking up all the sun, like most of these kind of gym places, they have awnings or coverings and stuff like that, where you're at. It's a lot smarter than you think though, if you though. If you guys have driven by it or seen it. Oh it's time we went and walked. Yeah, we've been there. Yeah, I've been there several times.

I've just never lifted there. Yeah, it's a time. Every time I've been there, I haven't been in my jacked physique phase. Where I would love to know. If I'm gonna go lift on fitness, I want to be at some of my better shape. I don't want to be like some of the worst shape.

I've been in it out there. You know what I mean? Competition. The gold's down there in Venice a small too. It's not very big. I'm gonna be at some of my better shape. I don't wanna be like some of the worst shape I've been in and out there, you know? You wanna be in competition shape. The goals down there in Venice are small too. It's not very big. No, I remember the first time we went to that also. I expected it to be like this super big ol' gym and it's- It's all old and run down and everything.

So it's got nostalgia for sure. Yeah, yeah. Some of the best gyms I've ever worked out and you would think we're just dungeons. Just crap, it's all about the atmosphere, at least for me. It's all worked out and you would think were just dungeons. Just crap, it's all about the atmosphere, at least for me. It's all about the energy and the atmosphere and the gym. I still remember that one gym we went to, and was it Texas?

Was it Texas? What was it called? Anybody remember? Yeah, it was called Texas something. Yeah, it was Texas. I don't recall it. It was, that sucks. I would love to give a machado.

It was a power lifter, strong man, strength sucks. I would love to give a machado. It was it was a power lifter strong man Strength athlete type Jim. Yeah, the feel in there was incredible And they had the outdoor area with the logs and we were doing some carries and stuff big text big text We went to big text and we were gonna film we weren't even gonna work out, but all of us were like let's get Oh, we got to get in workout. We gotta do a work. Was that your favorite would you say? We've been to a lot of gyms together. Would you say that was your favorite? I mean, I love Pekolsky's gym because it's a phenomenal.

It's totally me. It's a body builder gym. That are the Reno gym, I like a lot. I like the Reno one personally because it had really cool features for the sled. Like even an uphill area where you could like drag the sled up. And you just had a lot of really athletic functional stuff.

The thing that I liked at Pekolsky, so Pekolskyautholetic functional stuff. The thing that I liked at Pekolsky, so Pekolsky big text, probably my two favorites, but what I liked at Pekolsky's gym is the incline that he had for dumbbells, you stood. Remember that? It wasn't a, like, a sit down incline bench. You stood and leaned back.

I liked that, that was cool. And it was way more stable. I felt way more connected. That was amazing. I loved his dumbbells, too. Oh, those were amazing. The chrome ones or whatever. I still way more connected. I loved his dumbbells too. Oh, those were amazing. The chrome ones or whatever. I still like the old school dumbbells with the plates, the thin plates that you can hear

moving. Oh, but if you like that, that pinches your skin and you're like, ah, it's just nostalgia. Yeah, you know, it's just a bunch of nostalgia. It's a sound. That's what it is. It is. It's the clanging of the weights. Yeah.

And then there was that place that we filmed, maps aesthetic in years ago. That was, you know, that was my, I know. That was my high school gym. Now, I liked that gym because that gym had old ass equipment that I remember working out in as a kid with chains. Like old plate load, not plate loaded, selectorized equipment. Now you see it with cables and with like, what is it called? Like bands like pulling the way through.

They were chains. It was chain link stuff, which for obvious reasons they don't do anymore. You catch a finger in that. Not that long. Not that long ago. I saw my stepdad Recent recently and recently and he was he had we were catching up and he was you know He follows along what we're doing and stuff and he was just talking about man so crazy to see where you guys have all what you came from and where you're at and all Stuff and he's like I still remember that that first gym gym that when you were 17 that you used to go to, what was that over off of McKinney? And he's like, I said, dad, you know that's, we actually, the owners of that gym

ended up later on years later, obviously, where fans of mine pump reached out to us and we shot one of our very first programs in the gym. He was like, what, no way, I'm like, yeah, no, it looks exactly the same, dude. It's like, literally, I think 95% of the equipment that I use when I was a kid is still in that place. I love it. I love that old. I don't know if they're still going. It was called in inner sport, inner sport, in Modesto, California. Except we reshot that program. And so you guys remember the Super Science gym? Yes. Yes. Well, that was another great gym.

That was really cool. Gym is more updated equipment and whatnot, but it just had everything you could possibly think of in that gym. I would love to do a gym tour. I was no business. I was literally just taking that. People always ask, what's next for my pump or whatever. That would be kind of a fun thing to do at one point

when we can kind of step away from this. Cross country gym tour. Yeah, just like take a tour kind of a fun thing to do at one point. And we can kind of step away. Cross country gym tour. Yeah, just like take a tour and like get a list of whatever, like the best gym in the in each state. Yes, right. And like work our work our way around the country. You're gonna walk out and give feedback. Oh, yeah.

I mean, that's a show waiting to happen, right? Like that would be cool to do that. Are there gyms on your list that you'd want to visit? Do you guys know of that? Nothing. Most, most all gyms, there's a, there's actually a 24- hour fitness that's an LA that I've never, they're big one in LA. The, I, the one that I, um, wow, what's it, where's it at? I forget where the exact the street that it's on, but there's a big, like, their largest, you know, home-based gym

is in LA. I never got a chance to go to that. And I heard it's, it's pretty epic. I tried to, there's Max Schmarzo's gym that was really sounded really crazy. It was like this almost Olympic athlete setup. So there's like all every single like crazy sports driven piece of equipment is in this place. So I really don't. I'm very curious for that. The Reno gym, it'd be hard for that to be taught

because I like something that is massive. Like that is you have lots of room. I hate, so the only thing I don't like about the small dungeon gyms is I don't like the feeling of like rubbing shoulders with people while I work out. I like how I like big open. Yeah, I like my space. I like to come in with my duffle bag and throw it down, next row and pull my chalk out, pull my belt out and kind of scatter it around my area.

I want to work out and put 20 minutes into that area and then move along. Like heavy lifting stations, like right next to a field or like basketball courts or all that, since like you have, you know, over here you have the sports section and then also you have heavy lifting. I feel like they had everything there.

They really did. Like they had, like if you, everything from if you want to be CrossFit stuff, maybe they lacked a little bit in the strongman type stuff. So I don't think they had any actual stacks. The big stacks was amazing. You have C.Gems are pretty good. They've got some great setups. I wouldn't say I would like to go to,

whatever that Jim Ronnie Coleman used to work out at, that didn't have AC, he was all fucked up. It's the one where he's dead lifting 800 pounds and smells like ass. What is that called? Doug maybe look at tape, duct tape on all the fucking machines. No, no, no, no.

Ronnie Coleman works out there. I know it's having which hands are. Branch Warren works out there. Is it the Rx one or the, it's called? No, no. So there's also the other famous one. Fuck, it's gonna slip, it's slipping my mind right now. It's MetroFlex.

MetroFlex. I would love to do it when I say MetroFlex. I said the right now. It's Metroflex. Metroflex. I would love to do that. I'd say that's a better access. I said that's a protein powder. That's a supplement. Yeah. Metroflex and then the Bev. Oh, Bev Francis Jim.

Thank you. Powerhouse, right? Yes, that's another thing. That's one I'd like to go to. And I'd love to go to Dorian's gym that he worked out, which was literally in the basement. It was a gym in the basement somewhere in England. I'd love to just go and train there.

I want to go to Franco's gym, that looks like a good time. Oh yeah, he's got a great place. I'm sure. I'm sure. Hey, so you guys want to hear a cool study that came out on Vitamin C? Vitamin C? Vitamin C, good old vitamin C.

So they showed that giving, this was an animal study, but we've seen this in humans. Having high doses, they did a gram. So gram of vitamin C a day reduced the adaptations to exercise versus not taking vitamin C. So lots of items, I want you guys to guess why this would be the case, right? So they gave rats, vitamin C, other rats, no vitamin C. The rats that took the vitamin C had lower

– Adaptation. – rates of adaptation than the rats that didn't take interesting vitamin C Well, it's because the doses were so high. It's the what it does is because high dose of vitamin C right increases antioxidant levels in the blood reduces the stress response So it's like taking anti-inflammatory. It's like the ibuprofen. Yeah study that you'd man Now that's a lot though, right? You said one gram. Yeah, normally the prescriptions but 500 to 1000 milligrams? 1000 milligrams is a gram.

Okay, is that right? Yeah, 1000 milligrams is one gram, right? So, yes, people often take it, but what people don't realize is the things that you do to reduce stress in the body, or that you may take, could also potentially reduce the adaptation response from exercise.

Now I want to caution people because stress is a signal for change. Right, right. So reducing inflammation overall may reduce the muscle building signal. But I want to caution people because most people are better off reducing inflammation. So the average person is like, I don't want to reduce inflammation. I want to build as much muscle as possible. It's like, no, actually, you need less inflammation. So the average person's like, I don't want to reduce inflammation. I want to build as much muscle as possible. It's like, no, actually, you need less inflammation.

Yeah, so I want to caution people with studies like this because then you get people who are in inflamed state, they're not very healthy anyway, and they're like, I want to build most muscle I can. So I'm not going to take fish oil. I'm not going to take vitamin C. I'm going to make sure that I just stays inflamed as possible.

No, I think it's for most people doing things to reduce inflammation is a good idea. Plus, in my opinion, reducing the muscle building signal a little bit naturally with the trade off of having lower systemic inflammation and lower rates of oxidative stress and damage, you're probably better off. You're better off anyway in the long term, versus just that short term, you know, type of window.

I have a report for us, and I'm curious to hear what you guys think. It's not a study, it's a report on home buying. So this last quarter, this report just came out that 18.5, I believe, is just under 20% of all homes that were purchased in the last quarter were investors, which is the highest in history since year 2000. We've never seen any of those. Well, so a little less than a quarter of all homes sold were like investors. So investor groups or people that are investors, private investors, whatever that are buying the homes

up. Now, what was the speculation or the reasoning in the article? The article wasn't speculating anything, it was literally a report. So sometimes that's what I'll be read, not everything I read is speculative or somebody putting their two cents, and it's literally like, here's the numbers, there's the facts, facts are, there's a good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, Investing in real estate, you've gotten to a place in your life to where you're fairly financially successful or you're a part of a financial group that does a ton of research and homework before you buy it.

So to me, that just tells me that we're far from seeing a plateau or a correction and that more people that are paying attention to this, that are investing in that area, see the riding on the wall and the direction that we're going and that it's gonna continue to go up. For them to increase their, I mean, I've kinda tampered us a little bit and slowed down and been a little more hesitant because I'm like, it's gotta be this correction

that we've been talking about forever. It's gotta be coming soon, it's gonna slow up. Yet here, more investors are accelerating right now than ever before. And my thought on that is just that I think that the biggest thing that's causing this is the lack of inventory. There's lots of different reasons why home prices are going up, you know, with loans and other factors, right, and cost of materials. There's many things.

But one of the biggest is just purely supply and demand. I mean, that's just basic economics right now, that there's just not enough supply for the amount of people that want homes. And then you add in the fact that investors are buying at a higher percentage more than ever. So people that need a home or that are buying their first home have even less inventory. So all of this is driving up even more. And the end is not near. Like it's not like tomorrow, we're all sun going to see like there was this idea and speculation

a couple of years ago or a year, I say a year, a year and a half ago that oh, when they, when all this stuff with the pandemic ends and they pull the moratorium on the foreclosures, we're going to see a flood on the market and all these houses are rebuilt and then we're gonna be way over on supply and then we're gonna see a correction that's gonna dip down. And we're just not seeing that. Like so many people are not getting foreclosed on. Many people are getting forgiven on a lot of the missed payments

or they're just tacking it on to the back after loan. Most people that were buying homes in the last five years or longer put 20 to 25% down in the first place. So, and you add in how much to all these homes have appreciated, so they have plenty of equity in there. Nobody has broke that has these, not nobody. A small percentage of people that would actually get

foreclosed on will get foreclosed on. So we're just not, we don't have enough supply. Now, do you think it might be that investors are, because investors obviously a little bit more savvy because they're investing. Do you think maybe this may be their way of hedging against a inflation and maybe hedging against the crash? Like in other words,

hey, let's buy some assets because we're gonna see a downturn and a lot of things. And historically, if things go down, real estate typically does it a little better because it's interesting because it also goes against kind of basic investing principles. Like one of the things as a real estate investor, you're really paying attention to cap rates. And cap rates have been shrunk or have been shrinking for the last year or two, quite a bit. It's half of why we've slowed down is because it's like, man, it's hard to find a house right now where we can rent it out and break even

or make a little bit of cash flow on it so it's slowed it down. But investors are buying anyways. So even if you're not cash flowing very good, there's not very good cap rates, which tells me they are. They're hedging that, okay, it doesn't matter right now. I can't currently cash flow very much.

Rents are going up faster than they ever have in the past. And I may not be able to cash flow very much right now, but with the rate that inflation is going, the rate that renting is going, and a year or two, it will be cash flowing for me. And if inflation continues at the rate, it's continuing, having a hard asset like that is going to save money.

Yes, inflation has got to be one of the worst thing for people in the lower incomes, right? Because they don't have the capability to invest in inflation protected or, hedges against the inflation because they don't have expendable income. So they just lose their purchasing power at the grocery store and at the market and they don't have these assets that'll rise with inflation. So it just lose their purchasing power at the grocery store and at the market,

and they don't have these assets that will rise with inflation. So it's... Yeah, and it's really what we got going on and stuff, Ukraine, Russia, type stuff. It's really going to be interesting to see what happens at the stock market over the next couple of months. Like, I think that's been... That's been... Pluminy, Bitcoin's been plummeting also. I think it's that record lows in the last two years. So I think we're gonna see a lot of that stuff get hurt over the next month or two for sure. Yeah, by more NFTs maybe.

Yeah, even that, I mean, I have no idea where that's gonna be in a couple of years also. I think we, not that long ago on the show, we were talking comparing it to the dot com era, right? Like the truth is, yes, they're here to stay. Yes, it's gonna change the way we do things. But most people aren't gonna lose their ass. Yeah.

Did they say like what the trends were in that report of like, you know, single family homes, like they were purchasing versus like, you know, multiplexes versus like flipping homes or like what's some of the strategies are? Yeah, you know, and actually for the, not the first time ever, but typically single-family homes are not purchased as much by investors, but you're seeing more investors buying single-family homes than what you've ever seen before.

They typically go for apartment complexes, multi units, because there's better cash flow, better cap rates, and stuff like that. But I mean, I think to what you're saying, so I think they're just, at this point, they're just trying to swoop up anything. Every asset you get a whole, yeah. People are overpaying on things, paying cash, out right,

and it's just, I think everybody thinks that this, you know, transitory inflation is not so transitory. And if you don't park your money in a asset or commodity or something that could potentially appreciate over the next year or two, you literally are losing money by allowing it just to sit in a savings account. Did you, did any of you guys read the article

from Jackie about Arnold being like 80% vegan? 80% yeah. What the hell is that man? What I saw, I saw the headline on that. Let me break this down. I don't know what that means. So my, I guess, I mean, you have your, you would like the rest, you have steak

and then you have some rice. You just like reduce the amount of meat in your diet is that like, so now we're 80%? That has to be a play to sell as fucking powder, right? Cause didn't he do a vegan protein powder just recently? I mean, that has to be the whole move on that, because that's such a ridiculous thing to even point out. And it's even more ridiculous to think that this guy's actually

tracking his food every single day and then breaking down the percentage of it that is considered vegan. Like, what the fuck does that even do? You want to know what's funny? Most people are 80% vegan. You can look at it. Yeah, because most of the cars, most people eat like a majority of their food for carbs. So it's really not, I mean, I wonder if they,

if someone wrote that article and it's not even from it, they just took that as a basic statistic. The average person eats 80% of their food is carbohydrate intake. So we're just gonna come out and say, 80% is vegan. Oh, yeah. But it was just funny, reminded me of like,

it was kind of a funny interaction I had when I was training the kids at the school. And when the kid's phone's on there, it said like a 100% vegan, like the sticker that was on their phone. And I walk by and I was like, oh, like immediately, I was thinking we didn't have a commercial for organified today, but I was just like,

oh man, like I have a good protein powder source for you. Mom and I trying to like, you know, pitch him the pitch of it. And all these like, what do you mean? I was like, oh, I saw, you know, your vegan or, you know, and that's your preference. And he's like, oh, no, one of my buddies put that on. There's a joke. It pounced me with that.

And they start telling me about it. And it reminded me of when I was like that age and that was like a common prank was to take like a bumper sticker and like put that bumper sticker. Like is there supporting so and so or you know like I love you know you name the president like they put that on there or whatever. See it's stuff like this that makes me hopeful. Yeah well that remember we talked the other day on the show about that the generation coming up is kind of going to rebel against the norm of the, the, the millennial generation, right? So I kind of feel like it's going, but going back the direction. I feel like just five years ago or seven years ago, you're in high school, give the vegan

kid a hard time or tease someone and say they're vegan when they're not would be, you'd be crucified for it. But here, the, it's coming back again like that. And I think it's that younger, that Gen Z coming back and we'll see if they start, you know, hitting each other than that's for all reasons. Did you, speaking of your football guys, so did you ever get them all on, did you bring all the fucking boxes of magic spoon that we have here? Yeah. Oh, you did. Oh, I did. Yeah. I haven't reported back on that. Have I? Yeah. I literally cleared.

I think it was like 20-something boxes from the back. So if you notice, it was a bit empty. That's because of me. And at the end, I just kind of pitched in like, hey, if you guys are interested in like, dude, not even a flinch. Everybody ran over there and grabbed a box because it's like, I train them and then they kind of only have,

I don't know, five minutes to get ready before they got to jump to class. And so they're all hungry. And so that was like, they just started eating it right out of the box. And I'm like, it's good with milk too, you know? Like take it home. And no, they just like started consuming it.

Oh great, and the small servings that went 13, 14 grams of protein, no sugar at all, grain free. Like, here you go. And then it's like, what are the flavors? That has them up here. Fruit is momy too. Frosted peanut butter, blueberry cinnamon, cookies and cream. Yeah maple waffle cocoa

Yeah, of course the kids I was hesitant to give out any of the frudies. Yeah, like is that's my jam There was like two of them and I'm like I'll give you the golden goose as long as you appreciate it to the best kid I actually I don't know if you guys I've eaten a dry. It actually a pretty good little snack. Yeah, yeah, that was a big one. I was a big dry cereal eater Yeah, I sit in front of the TV and yeah right out of this box Tell you don't do any way you don't do any way so you don't do the magic spoon I do the magic spoon. Oh you do yeah, because I was thinking I saw you post on the stories the other day And you were showing like you eat your carrots when you're trying to you know stay satiated and keep your mouth busy and not Over eat calories. I bet magic spoon in a little bag would not be bad either.

It's not very high calorie and get protein with it. Duggle throw it down, that's the problem. Yeah. I'll eat a whole box. Well, no, the one sitting. I mean, one of the best hacks ever and this was something I had to do when I was competing and I had to be so strict about food, but I've carried that on now going forward is I just did this the other night.

Other night I went downstairs to get something to snack on and I have those little like almost like mini they're not sandwich bags are like half of a sandwich bag. Yeah, I have those. Yeah, almost like a drug bag. And yeah, kind of like that. So I put my marijuana and then I'll also put my snacks. So it works dual purpose here. Yeah, so I will if I go downstairs to get something that I want to snack on,

regardless of what I do, we have these like Apple Air Criss things that we had. And I can, they're so good, they're so light, and I know they're low calorie, I'll crush a whole bag if I watch a movie and have them. So when I do it, I'll put them in that bag, let myself fill it all the way up. That's fine. And then go, and then what it's gone, it's gone. Now, Doug, you put it out there on the story. You're trying to do some like transformation thing. So now I know a serious about this. I am serious. Well, the problem is the last time I did any type of transformation

was maybe two or three years ago, when we all did it. Yeah, and of course I'm highly competitive. And so I made it my mission to win that. But since that time, I really haven't had any motivation. And this winter, I just kind of let things go a little too far. You know, I was eating out every weekend, maybe once or twice. Sometimes even more. Yeah.

I was having a few beverages here and there that I normally didn't have. And, you know, those calories, yeah, exactly. Justin has been, and, yeah. Come on, Doug, been, and he had to defer, yeah. So anyway, I was just consuming way more calories than I normally do, and I started putting it on weight. And I hit a number that I hadn't hit for 10 years as far as my body fat was concerned

as I measure across my weight. So that's how I determine how fat am I really? And it's always my weight. So that's how I determine, you know, how fat am I really? And it's always my weight measurement. So when I got done dieting down about 10 years ago, I was at a 32 inch waist when I stopped that main diet. And then I am now around 33 inches. So that is... Wait a minute, hold on, you went from 32 to 33.

In 10 years. That's an inch. That's not the thing. Oh no, but you know, hold on, you went from 32 to 33. In 10 years. That's an inch. That's nothing. You know, you got to realize, in between that time, I went down to 28. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, so I've been inching back up from 28. That was in 2014.

You got it. And in every year, I've gotten a little bit more okay with a little bit higher number on the waist measure. Got it. You know who he reminds me of? There's a scene, you don't watch this, I don't think of you, but you might. You watch Marvelous Miss Mazzell?

Yeah, I'm really glad you can tell. You know the new season is out, right? Yeah. So the new season is out. I think it's on episode three right now. I wonder what if that, I absolutely love that show. But there's a scene in there that I can't help but think a Doug when she has her little notebook.

And she has for like 17 years consistently, she takes her thigh measurement, she takes her little notebook, and for like 17 years consistently, she takes her thigh measurement, she takes her waist, her bust, and Doug like swears by that. That's almost like obsessed with that, right? Yes, and Doug is like, you see Doug carries his little notebook around everywhere, he still logs all his workouts,

he logs his waist measurement, so that scene comes on, I just picture Doug. So carrots, is that your like, your low calorie diet snack? That's just something to keep my mouth busy. You know, sometimes I just wanna eat. Yeah, so what other models use? And carrots?

Yeah, carrots and celery. You know, the nice thing about carrots is that they have a good crunch, so you feel like you're taking something substantial in. But funny when I did my story, I got some really interesting responses. Because what your carrots looked, that's why. Well, they're ugly carrots,

but it doesn't matter, they taste good. Yeah. What were they talking about your carrots? that's why oh they're ugly carrots but doesn't matter they taste good yeah I don't know they were none of the responses made a lot of sense to me but they were obviously like sexual maybe is mouth-bizzy that's oh yeah you said keep my mouth busy and then you show a picture of a carrot looks like a dick that's why oh I just pick up on that you know what I'm still innocent, you know, obviously I don't even chew on it Hey, Justin what even you carry yes the credit

Damn, if I do nobody's gonna see me Hey, are you the guy that are you the guy that won't eat a banana? You have to cut it. You would never eat a banana. This guy trying to give me order a dirty banana drink. That's a real drink, isn't it? Dude, all I can think of is like, why is it dirty? Where did you put that banana?

It's the brown liqueur that you use. Probably wrong. I am the easiest. Yeah, I think it's like a rum. And so that's what makes it a dirty. Dirty bananas way better than a clean banana. I just imagine somebody purking up like, dirty banana?

Dirty banana? I got one for these two. No, pickles do as a best. Oh, yeah, pickles are great. Yeah, because at least it's salty. Yeah, I mean, I choose pickles are another one. I like the salt, dude. Otherwise for carrots.

I like baby carrots so better than I like the big ones like that. Oh, yeah, baby Characters great. Yeah, I'll snack on that. Yeah, just so so happen to buy a massive bag from Costco Oh, and that's why I was You know, you don't you know, I don't You know, I got Costco yesterday. It's the K-Wolm with Costco sells olive oil by like the 20 bottles or like that 20 bottles. Yeah, it's like a case this big You know, I know you go rancid. I, it's like a case. Don't buy that much. You know, I know she's gonna go rancid.

I know it's stuff, but I'm like, what do we need this much olive oil for? And then yes, it goes bad eventually. I'm like, why would we get this much? She goes, we go through a lot. I'm like, really? I don't think we go through that much. She used it for your, just she's still misogyn.

She has done that before, but she has special oil for that. Oh, she's in use it. We used, you know, we do, we do go through quite a bit because we, I've made, this is kind of a new habit. I, we cook a lot of our food now in the iron skillet. Like consistently, I almost use the, I almost always, in fact, every day, we use it at least once. Whether breakfast, lunch, or dinner, we cook with the iron skillet and then obviously when you clean it, you always do a layer of like olive oil. So that's probably why we go through as much as we go through.

I didn't know we were going through. You know you get iron in your diet from using iron skill? Yeah, you can actually get too much. Well, so here's the thing. So I was reading about this actually. I didn't even, that wasn't even supposed to bring this up, but it's men who donate blood annually once or twice a year,

a dramatic reduction in heart disease and stroke. I remember you brought that up because you were talking about going to do it yourself. I remember I brought it and you teased me because I said I get lie-headed. Yeah. Well, you weren't even donating blood. You got to steep it regular. That's why I woke because when you donate blood they take like four or five of those big old blood. I have before and like that was definitely need a cookie afterwards.

Yeah, one, one is like just too much. No, I mean, but because so women definitely need a cookie afterward. Yeah, one one is like just no I mean, but you but because so women men straight so their body naturally cycles through red blood cells But men can get high too high levels because My body is just to give blood and then you know makes it cheap date later that night. Oh, oh, it's drink less alcohol Wait a minute. Oh, this is a terrible advice. I mean Wait, you actually for reals? If you donate blood and then you drink later on, you get to that night, maybe two, three drinks.

Really? I was out. Yeah. What a terrible advice. Why, explain that to me. Why donating blood would make you... First of all, you donate blood, you're already lightheaded. You're already going to feel wobbly

and weak. Yeah. So I think it's probably just that plus the alcohol. Well, he's not literally doing it right after he does it because you return to normal like later on that day. No, it takes longer than that. It takes 24-40 hours. Yeah, no Jessica. Maybe I did feel a little under the weather all day long. Yeah, no Jessica donated blood.

And then that night we were hanging out whatever and she stood up and almost passed out. And then we freaked out for a second and then I'm like, oh yeah, you donated blood. That's why that's why you did that. Yes, yeah, I get like that. That's how I get to. Like that's not.

Well, then you don't do that. Yes, my point. Yes. How to get drunk back? You'll get stuff drawn in your face. Hey, how weird is this? How weird is it that old, weird medical practices have always a little bit of truth in them, right?

They used to do blood-led. Blood-ledding. That was a very common practice during the medieval times. When you were sick, they would let you bleed out thinking that you would get out of the demons in there. Yeah, or they put leeches on you and shit, but there's actually some health benefits to that. Isn't that so weird?

Now here's, you wanna have a, let's speculate on the evolutionary, like why would men need to donate blood? It's because we used to battle, dude. We used to lose it naturally all the time. Yeah, we're just weak now. I never believed, you know what I mean? Someone could hold on to your blood,

but you might own blood. Get rid of some blood. Let out some of my blood, make it up. Anyway, when you guys are out in the public, you guys get excited when you see people using our sponsors. You guys are like, oh, there's I see what's the cause. Of course, of course.

Viori is everywhere, everywhere now. I see it at least once a day. So many leggings out there now. I do, whenever we go out, we go to Santana Ro, we go to Valley Fair, we go whatever, go to the mall, and we're walking and I see just I see it all over the place You know it's funny when we first I mean we've been partnered with them for about four years now So when we first used to I used to see people like that. I a lot of times would ask him. No, are you familiar with mine pump stuff?

They're so big now that No, it's yeah, I've already been told Nike. Hey you must have said that. Yeah, it's wearing it for comfort. Yeah, and going to work. Yeah, there's nothing like fitness-rate. Hey, early on, I really felt like there was a good chance that if you've met somewhere, saw someone wearing Viori, but I mean, they're so big now, they're everywhere and so many people are wearing it that doesn't happen anymore.

Yeah, I think, I think, I've predict that they're gonna be like one of the biggest players in that space. Well, I mean, when we brought up the, when they were valued at what, was it two or four billion, two or four billion? Like that was like a year ago. And they, I know they've been on a great run since then, and I don't know. I don't follow Lulu to see. I imagine that space is, I mean, Lulu for a long time dominated that space.

And now you have companies like Jim Shark, Alphaly, you've got Viori, you've got, you've got, yeah, you have a lot of competitors now in that space. So I imagine that it's, I'm sure they're taking up a lot of the market share. For men's stuff, Viori's the best. I have yet to do anything from Lulu that I like.

Yeah, but I mean, they've made a lot of progress on the women's side. Like Courtney just raves about it now. And like the difference is substantial for her between Lulu and those other brands, Fleta and stuff like that. So Katrina does too. There was a hot minute there where I would come home

pretty much every week and I'd bring her like a Lulu outfit. You know, this is obviously well before mind pump and stuff. And she used to have like a whole dresser that was nothing but Lulu's shit and she don't wear none a whole dresser that was nothing but Lulu shit. And she don't wear none of that no more. She wears all, she's been converted. Yeah, and it's not because she's like, just because of mind pump. She like truly likes it.

Like I wouldn't give a shit if she wears. That's corny. She's no filter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't think any of the wives are like, no, no, no, no, no. None of them are doing anybody. Brutally so. You know, I appreciate that.

I know, but it's good though. Actually, I wanted to ask you Justin, this is a story that you were supposed to bring uputally so. You know, I appreciate that. I know. But it's good though. Actually, I wanted to ask you, Justin, this is a story that you were supposed to bring up a while ago. It was in our notes. We never brought up. I'm very curious about this.

I'm very curious about this. Oh, I knew you were gonna ask this. So was it a cross-country scare? It was a lip-picked cypher. Yeah, so what happened? Is this real? Yes, it was so cold. I mean, it literally, I think it was,

I think we'd have to look and see like what the temperature was. It was like, it had to be a below freezing, obviously. And this poor guy, like his junk literally froze. So in order for that to happen, I would think that you kind of peed yourself or you're so sweaty in that area than it's cold and so then it freezes. Yeah, I don't know physiologically how like specifically there.

You know, you're moving your limbs. That's the only way I could think it happens, right? You get all this moisture and water. It's your moisture, right? Yeah, either you, your piece is pants and so he's like, I, yeah, and then it turns into ice, right? Because it doesn't make sense that is just is just junk free. He was he was that's usually the warmest place.

Right. He was in the lead and he's like, I'm way ahead of everybody. And they saw snow. He was, he was, that's usually the warmest place. He was in the lead and he's like, I'm way ahead of everybody. And he saw snowman. He saw snowman. He's like, hold on a second. I got time. Pro, imagine how painful that would be.

So is he, he didn't shake well enough probably? Did they, does he lose it? Did they cut it off? Like, what's the deal? Or are they able to bring it back to life? I think they brought it back to life.

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and I feel like, first of all, it was awesome. I was able to add like 10 to 15 pounds to my previous 1RP maxes. I feel really good, and I feel like my metabolism is in a magical place right now. I have been like absolutely ravenous and feeding the hunger and I'm like staying super lean not you know like I feel like I look great I feel great and so going out of power lift, I decided to start Maps Strong because I'm thinking about there's a local strongman competition that I'm

thinking about doing in the fall. So I thought that would be a good direction to go coming out of Power Lift. But I just got done with the first week of strong and I have been a lot more sore than I typically am following your other programs. I've done several in the past. And I'm just wondering if, because I'm going from phase three of Powerlift where like I'm going from phase three of Powerlift where I'm never doing more than three reps in a set to phase one of strong, which is 15 to 20 reps.

And I'm wondering if the soreness I'm experiencing is something that I should just push through initially, or if I should reduce volume, maybe by knocking a set off of each exercise for maybe the first couple weeks and then scale up To the way it's programmed. I basically am trying to figure out how to preserve The awesome place my metabolism is in yeah, okay, so how far in too strong are you? I am today will be the first day of week two. Okay, this is totally normal. So when you move from really low reps to high reps, soreness is very common.

It's like being there first day of the gym. It is. It's not like that the other way around. You go from really high reps to low reps and it feels different. You might feel in your joints a little bit but you don't get really sore. Soreness from the high reps after low reps

is actually quite common. You're only in week two. Everything, you said your metabolism's good, you're strong. I say you're probably okay. Now, if you feel like you're over-trained. So besides the soreness, if you're like having trouble sleeping, if you're noticing other aches and pains, if you're noticing an intolerance to heat or cold,

libido crash, like really weird fatigue. In that case, I would say let's reduce some of the volume. The other thing you could do is just reduce the intensity a little bit. So now I'm assuming the work sessions are where you're feeling most of this. Is that correct? Yeah, I feel like it's primarily,

like for sure the work session with the sled drives and it was where I was like, maybe this is too much because I kind of almost made myself throw up, but I think it might also be archery because I think going from the heavy low res to 15 to 20 rep range. I'm maybe I'm overestimating the amount of weight that I should be. That's a good using those types of movements. It's mostly like the drive, the snatch grip, deadlift, like the major movements that I'm feeling like maybe are a little bit too much. Yeah, that's totally normal. So when you go from powerlifting, well powerlifting is very, you know, bench deadlift squat, strong is much more unconventional, much more dynamic.

Phase one of strong is very different from phase three of powerlift. So this, a lot of people make this mistake. They go from low reps, heavy, and they go, they look at high reps and they guesstimate how much weight they should use. And it's usually more than they need that they should. Yeah, and besides the reps, heavy, and they look at high reps, and they guesstimate how much weight they should use, and it's usually more than they need that they should. Yeah, and besides the reps, I mean, you're doing these unconventional type movements that

like provide it a completely new stimulus for your body. So, I mean, you made a pretty dramatic shift from where you were before. So, yeah, if you give it a little bit of time, I think your body will acclimate a bit more, but I mean, it's smart that you're already considering these in terms of how to kind of tone things down just a bit, so you're not so hammered. Go lighter. I'd say go lighter. That's it, though. I really think, I think you're in a great place right now.

I think the fact that you ran, Power Left First saw the results you did, feeling your metabolism the way you feel, getting to, you know, mean, to be that highly conditioned, that consistent with your training, and then being able to getting to, you know, I mean, to be that highly conditioned, that consistent with your training, and then being able to switch to a new program, and almost feel like it's, you're a beginner again with the soreness and stuff like that. It's like such a good place to be, and all things considering with the metabolism,

going good, feeling good about your body, you're in a great place. You probably just stacked on a little more weight for 15 to 20 reps than you probably should have, and I think simply adjusting that a little bit, you're probably gonna be just fine and you're doing really good. Totally, I mean, to give you an example,

like if I did, I'll just use some arbitrary number. I'll use numbers that I would use, right? So let's say I'm going really heavy low reps with squats. So let's say I'm doing sets of three with, let's say 400 pounds, right? So I'm doing sets of three with, let's say 400 pounds, right? So I'm doing sets of three with 400 pounds. And then I'm like, I'm gonna switch to 15 reps, okay? I'm gonna go down to like 200, like literally half of the weight.

And not because the weight is too heavy per se, but I start doing sets of 15 reps after my body's acclimated doing sets of three. But I'm sure you experience this by the time you get to the second or third set, oh my God, it is like, I am dying. I feel like I'm gonna throw up. For the cardio.

Yeah, and so you gotta go lighter than you think, and then slowly ramp it up as the weeks go on. But you only completed one week, so now you're in week two, by the end of the second week, your body will start to feel a lot better. And the third week should start to feel really good. And just as you start to feel really good. Just as you started to feel really good, we transitioned you to a new face.

But it sounds like you went a little too heavy, especially a snatch grip, deadlifts and the high pulls. Go lighter than you think, because they're really challenging. They're really, really challenging on the body. Okay. Yeah. Okay, good to know. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't,

because I know you guys talk about, like, if it feel, like, do the least amount to get the most amount of change and I didn't want to overdo it and mess myself up with this magical place that I'm in right now. No, yeah, I would go just go lighter. Yeah. Just go lighter and enjoy the different feel. It's obviously a different feel, right? When you're powerlifting, it's a different feel than when you're doing these higher reps.

And that's a strong man training, right? When we wrote the program, I mean, when you look at it, you know, I mean, you're looking at a strong man competitions, you definitely need to be strong, but you need to have strength stamina too. It's not just move heavyweight. Yeah, it's different.

It's totally different. Well, and speaking of phase one, a strong, one of the things I would do too is whatever, like I would reduce the weight significantly, whatever number I think I'm going to do, I would go even lower than that. And then while I'm going through the 15 to 20 reps, if it just seems too light when I get to reps 12, 13, I'd slow the reps down. Slow the reps down or get a little pause in there and lift and challenge myself that way.

So throw a little bit of isometrics in there within the reps to fatigue the muscle a little bit more without you having to load the bar more. That's what I would recommend. So I'd recommend going significantly lighter and then just kind of focus more on the technique of the exercise. You're gonna get really good shoulder back and butt development.

That program is excellent for the posterior chain of the shoulders. So if those are areas you want to focus on, you're going to enjoy the program. Absolutely. I'm so excited. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, thanks for calling in.

Thanks for that. Yeah, and that just so happens to be, we're doing that promotion, right, with both programs, Doug. Yes. So this just so happens to be our promo for the month is map strong, but plus maps powerlift.

Such a great combo to do. Oh, it's incredible. They're complimentary. Yeah. Because month is map strong, plus maps powerlifts. It's such a great combo to you. Oh, it's incredible. They're complimentary. Yeah, but because one's called strong, one's called powerlifts, people think that they're very similar, they're not, but they're extremely complimentary. And strong, you know, powerlifts was popular

right out the gates because people like powerlifts, they're familiar with the bench press, the deadlift and the squat. Strong was one of those programs that really had to sell hard on the podcast because a lot of people like, well, a strong man training, I don't know if I want, it became a favorite. People do it and they love the way to affect hard on the podcast is a lot of people like, well, a strong man training, I don't know if I want. It became a favorite.

People do it and they love the way it affects their body. It's a lot of fun. It's actually one of my favorite non-traditional resistance training program that we have. But yeah, you go from low reps to high reps. It's way different, dude. You got to go way lighter than you think and feel it out. It takes like two to three weeks before you can really push the weight with those reps.

Strong really comes out of the gates too. Crazy. So, I mean, that doesn't surprise me that she'd have that kind of response like the first week. Well, I would say that strong is probably our most unconventional program of all programs. It has the most unconventional exercises in it. Pretty close. I would say it's up there.

If it's not the one of the most, and then power for sure is the most basic. Very convenient. You're literally doing the most basic four or five movements in the whole program. It's such a great contrast to it. So it's such a good program to run back to back. Really proud of our marketing team for actually putting that together. We didn't even tell them to do that. I thought that was great. Finally, our next color is Callan from Oregon. Callan, what's happening? How can we help you?

Hey, how's it going guys? First of all, obviously, I just want to say, thank you so much for everything you've done for everyone in this industry and me. I used to drive to San Francisco from Cusbe, which is an eight hour drive, I'm almost three times a week. Wow. So 16 hours, quite a bit. So you guys saved my life for a lot of that. So I appreciate.

Awesome. Sorry about Adam. Yeah, we're all sorry. Fuck off. So my question is, I work on a tugboat. So I do 14 days or 17 days at home, and then 14 to 17 days on the boat. I have anabolic, I have performance, I have aesthetic,

and I have maps split and maps anywhere. So I've got a lot of you guys programs. However, they're three month programs and usually in adaptation phases and maps. So how can I follow a program like anabolic, for example, and get through maybe four or five foundational workouts and then get on a boat that I've extremely limited space and not a lot of access to equipment too, and still follow it. Does that three month program become a six month program, or can I use maps anywhere,

kind of instead of that? Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. That's the one. I would go, let's say you're in phase one of Maps and Obolic, and you do like two weeks of phase one, then you're off on the boat. I would do Maps anywhere while I'm on the boat. Then when you come back, you would jump back into maps and a ball like either right where you

left off or maybe halfway, like maybe the week that you ended, maybe start halfway through that week and go back into it. And you're just going to use maps anywhere as a bridge every time you're on the boat. And that should be great. Do you have anywhere where you could set up a TRX or a suspension? I don't. I thought about doing that. There's a small spot on the boat, but then I have to drill into it to put something like that. And then we have to get a new sort of cation. We can do it.

Yeah. Okay. That that that tackles out my input. Yeah. No, that's it. Man, you bridge with maps anywhere. I mean, that's one of the main reasons why we designed that program. Obviously, we designed it for people without equipment, but then we also designed it for people who travel. Because we train, you know, we train a lot of executives in the Bay Area as trainers, and I would do this for clients all the time. You know, I had clients that work for, you know, big tech companies like Apple and they travel and they've begun for, you know, every month, they've begun for a week or two. And so what I would do is I would give them workouts to do in their hotel room and then they'd come back and we would just jump right in

to where we left off. It is different, but it's actually pretty cool. In fact, I, if someone's watching this right now and they don't travel, experiment with this. It's a lot of fun. It changes things up. And some people do better bridging their program with anybody weight program. I would actually say a lot more. After I saw that study, we brought, I don't know if you were listening to the episode where we talked about this study. I believe I saw it first when Lane posted about it, I think Sal had read it somewhere else before, but they did a study on a group of people that were training, right, or two groups

of people that were training. One group Or two groups of people that were training. One group was training every single day, basically consistently for, I think, six months. I think is what it was. Yeah. And then the other group, every third week, they took a week off. So basically every month, they were taking a whole week off of no training. And at the end of the six month study, the group, the, the both groups saw the same amount of progress. So, you know, you're comparing someone who doesn't miss any training for six months versus the person

who misses a whole week every single month actually progressed just as far as the everyday group. So there's tremendous value in actually having either a complete week off or switching it to kind of like a little more recovery or like focusing on bodyweight training. Like you're still going to be stimulating the muscle. I actually think it'll be great complement to running like an anabolic program when you're back home. And if you're actually good and consistent with it, I bet you'd see great progress that way. So one thought just crossed my mind. Like so you have a door though

It's not the right kind of it's a waterproof water seal door Okay, then they have to be water sealed at all times So if I put anything in there something like that it becomes yeah, just trust me. Oh, I know the Okay, so like I think two two or three podcasts ago. Yes talked about if you knew a client was going to have an extended period away that you might just hammer them that week because you knew they were going to recover. Is that like, could I look at doing something like MapsPED for the two weeks and then doing maybe a mobility focused stuff? All that work?

Yeah. Yeah, but no. Okay, the only way that I would let you do that if you were a client of mine is if we worked up to that much volume Otherwise, you're not getting them real benefit right if we I just swap from split to anabolic because I found myself You know, I haven't worked out in a while. I just had a we have I four kids just had another one just built a house Oh, good. I'm coming off. Yeah, thanks Just coming off of nine months and not working out. So I didn't want to introduce that much volume right away.

So I'll swap back to you. I only do that if the person is not going to work out when they're gone. And if they're already training it on a very high quality. Yeah, exactly. That's the most important part is that. If you, let's say this was like a vacation or a once, this wasn't like part of your lifestyle where you kind of go on this boat all the time.

And you and I had been training together for a whole year and I had worked you through the like, anabolic performance aesthetic split and then you're about to take off. I'm like, all right, what's ramping you all the way up to PD? Let's get after the intensity, really get you for the last couple of weeks and then we're gonna, you know,

rest recover while you're gone. That's where I would do that. and then we're going to, you know, rest recover while you're gone. That's where I would do that. I would never take you from, you know, you know, not training for nine months, barely getting back into it and then throw you at PD. Your body is going to try to recover the whole goddamn time. It's not going to get any real progression from that. And that's just, that's not going to set you over. What you're doing is, is the right thing.

It's the smart move. It was smart for you to go back to anabolic, Follow that all the way up until boat time on the boat. Do your best to get maps anywhere in as consistently as you can. And then when you come back resume where you were on the program. And yeah, and I think and really honestly at this point, depending on what your goals are, right? Obviously, you're not trying to do like a powerlifting meet or something crazy. But if you're just trying to stay healthy, fit and strong, you're gonna get that. You know, do your best to eat well and not like an asshole while you're while you're on the boat and and stay hard. Yeah, I'm sure. And honestly that is so being real that that's what we'll do the most damage or set you back

the furthest is you know the combination of being very sedentary and then also eating like an asshole, like trying and stay as physically active as you can by using anywhere. And be honest with yourself, when you don't, those are the days you need to probably scale back on the eating and not allow yourself to go overboard. So, no pun intended. Are you, when you guys are on the boat,

are you at shore, too, or do you stay on the boat the whole time? Has it? So we we just work out of the Columbia River important and I think you've been in Portland before. So there is a couple times where it's sure, but it's so short lived and it's just like because I work from example midnight till six in the morning, have six hours off and then I work noon till eight o'clock at night. So my rest is broken up, which is terrible. And then you just spend, if you have any extra time, you just try to recover. Yeah, this guy's manly as hell.

He works at a tugboat, four kids, build a house. Hey, and honestly, like, uh, it's shit done. Now that I know that, um, if, again, if you're a client of mine, I'm giving you anywhere, so you have those tools of mine, I'm giving you anywhere, so you have those tools, but then I'm actually telling you, listen to your body as you're going through this, because there's going to be probably some days where you're fucking burned. I can only imagine you're probably pretty active anyway at work, right? Yeah, I walk around 27,000 steps a day at work.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maps anywhere is perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maps anywhere is perfect. Okay, and then listen to your body like Adam said. So take time off if you need it. Okay. It's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not that bad.

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We're going to make it NFT out of it. It's going to be worth millions. So hang on to it. Okay. And then second, so my wife, she's seven months postpartum now. And she has a friend that does the split body workouts, but she can only go with her like two or three times a month. And I'm trying, we have a full row garage gym.

And I'm trying to convince her to do maybe a map starter or a map's resistance. And I want you guys to sell her because she's going to listen to this. And why full body is that much better? Especially. Okay, listen, you are going to get stronger faster, recover faster, get leaner faster if you do this the right way. If you do the wrong way, you might be able to tolerate more work, but that doesn't mean you're gonna get there any faster.

If anything, you're gonna slow yourself down. And then post part of them, there's a lot of muscles you need to reconnect to. And you can cause some long-term damage, especially in the pelvic floor and the low back. So, map starter would be ideal. And it doesn't mean because you're starting with map starter that you get to where you want any slower.

If anything, you get there any faster because it's the more appropriate way to train. So, trust me on this, I've trained many, many women postpartum and if you do it the right way, the progress is amazing. If you overdo it, it's like, forget about it. Here's my pitch for you for map starter. We're gonna give it to you for free.

If you don't take advantage of it, I'm gonna charge your husband double for it. So here's my pitch. I'm gonna bill his ass. So we're gonna send it to you for free. It's like the best program for you to follow after having a baby, follow it, stick to it, trust the process we know what we're doing.

If you don't follow it, you don't stick to it, you don't use it, I'm gonna bill your husband. Hey, congratulations on the new baby. Yeah, thank you. Hey, Justin, keep the Star Wars real man. Love you, buddy. Yeah, use the force. Thanks, guys.

Oh, see you later. As if he couldn't get any cooler with Justin, right? He's like, I built a house. I work on a tugboat. Justin's like, wow. Yeah, this is a man. I like Star Wars. I saw the sim I happening over there.

What a cute, super man. Crash going on over. After What? You're a super man, fresh girl, and I'm over it now. After the show, so there's my, it's a high five at a man. It's a high five at a man. It's a high five. Did you call it? Yeah, okay. High noon.

High five with no hands. Yeah, it's a high noon. Yeah, no. I saw him peeking over there for his contact info. No, I tell you what, dude. I tell you what, man. You guys, you know, even. I tell you what, man. You know, even if you don't travel,

doing like a phase of a maps program, then doing like a couple weeks of anywhere, and then doing a phase of maps, and then in a couple weeks of anywhere, that is a great approach. Long term, great results. I don't care if you travel or not, great results. I mean, I would love to see,

I mean, my prediction is that group would do the best, right? So if we took that study that they already proved, where someone took a whole week off, versus somebody who trained consistently, in a six month period, I agree. And then if we had a third group where they, instead of having a week completely off, they did body weight training or focused on mobility

for a week and then came back, I bet 100%, I bet you that group beats everybody. Our next caller is Steven from Colorado. Hey, what's up, Steven? How can we help you? Hey, what's up, guys? Sal, what's up, man? Fellow, it's the Chiliano Americano here.

Oh, good for you. Good stuff. Hey, guys, thanks for the great show, great content. I want to support the channel now and pay for a program, but let me tell you where I'm at. 38 years old, 190 pounds. Been training mostly aesthetic training for like the last 20 years, but I'm gotten a mountain biking like like five years ago.

But like think like downhill mountain biking, not like the wearing spandex and doing 30 mile rides. Like the cool mountain biking, not like the wearing spandex and doing 30 mile rides. Like the cool mountain biking style. It's what you're saying. Well, so there's like, there's a lot of like static holds and quick bursts, but there's a lot of fitness too though. But based on your advice, I've been bulking and trying to like flip the metabolism for the last two months.

So like been doing PPL and trigger sessions. But for like the full two years before that, I was like, full body, plyo, circuit, hit, training, and non biking. So like two shows ago, you completely described me. Over training, too much cortisol, couldn't cut a stubborn like five to 10 pounds of fat. So, non bike season is coming up. I want to be fast as hell, but I want to keep my my tee up there and I would like to be yoked too. So should I go with like a match performance for the start of the season in a couple months or like just go like

that traditional mountain bike training and kind of like return to like a bulking routine after a few months of that. How many days, how many days a week will you be training out the mountain bike when that season starts? So I'm probably gonna go like four days a week on like doing actual rides, but like, they're kind of like like 45 minutes,

like long, slow grinds and then like three minutes down of like like absolute full on burst. This is like totally my brother-in-law right here. So this is the, I'll tell you exactly what I'm dealing with with him. And by the way too, he had low testosterone issues, losing muscle. That was a big problem for him. And so what I have him on is anabolic one time a week. So one time a week he runs maps in a ball and I I'm hard on him about making sure he's hitting his protein intake consistently because he also has a habit of drinking his calories. And so he'll have some days or he's low protein and then he's not weight

training and he stays lean, you know, but he loses all his muscle and his testosterone goes to the floor. And so anabolic one time the only way I would want you to do more than one time a week of anabolic would be completely based off of the volume of mountain biking you do. So let's say it's kind of an off week and you only go for two days or three really moderate easy days. And you're like, oh, I could probably train to get two full body routines in that week then I'd allow you to do that.

But I don't think I'd ever allow you to go three. I think especially someone like you who's already admitting that you are the cortisol junkie and you already lean towards doing too much. I think I'd probably be in your ear all the time staying trust the process. Just show me one day a week consistently, hit your protein intake, get it up, be fed while

you do your training and stuff, and then let's see what your body does. That's my advice. Yeah, now when does the season start? So it's still snowing here in Denver, but I've been about a month like I'll be able to be riding like three or four days a week. Okay, leading up to the month you could do, you know, maps, performance as it's laid out. But once you get into season, do what Adam said. Okay. Great. Are you, are you like big time in this too? Have you been doing it for a while?

Just like, like really in the last six years, but like, you know, the last 14 years before then, like I was just, you know, training for aesthetics and not didn't really have a sport for a while. So I race now. And like racing is really competitive about here. So like that's racing doesn't start to like June or so like June, July, August is race season. But even even among like from March to like December, it's like it's still very considered like competitive. I want to whip my boys asses every time I'm out.

You do. You sound just like my brother. You'll have to, you'll have to look them up on Instagram. He's TV R. I.S. me. So TV, TV R is me, all one word. His name's Tom. And he, he's hardcore into it. He's got some buddies that are actually Red Bull athlete sponsored athletes. And, but yeah, he's like the, he's normal tech guy and has another life, but he gets really passionate about the stuff. They all link up and travel and do the shit. Yeah, and I'll see you go. I'll go maps performance leading up to the season and then one map, Santa Bologna, work out a week while you're doing the season.

That's great. All right. Now, do you have any either one of those programs? No, my big question is like, which one do I do? Like, I want to support you guys. I'm buying one of these programs because I love the show. And I've just been picking things here and there for like a year or so. Well, I think you should do both,

but we'll send you maps performance, okay? So if you want to get maps in a ball, you can, but we'll send you maps performance. In fact, I'll have Doug email you a code, a discount code for maps in a ball, as well. Right, thank you so much, guys. Yeah, thank you, man. Keep it up.

I mean, technically I could have given him both, but he said he would buy one Well, you need diapers. You know, I stop. I need diapers to You need diapers right now. I need diapers too. Oh, I see for the baby It's not for me. It's for kids You try to take food in my kids mouth He's little this is like spot on my brother-in-law who is fucking stubborn as hell. It's all over It's funny. It's such a, give him both Doug, I feel like.

It's such a growing popular sport too. I didn't realize how huge it was. Even in San Cruz in my backyard is like, you have one of the best places. That's what I heard, right? My brother-in-law travels over here to go ride where you're at. So he rides over there, where I'm at, also back over there, there's,

I mean, there's places everywhere, but those are some of the best places. I didn't know how intense it was until I started watching these, like they would have these GoPro's on them. Bro, Tom broke his fucking hip last year. Yeah, dude. He broke his hip last year. No, very easy.

Then this asshole was on crutches and then was soon as he, he wasn't even cleared yet. As soon as he could actually get up on the bike, he had crutches still. He'd get out, imagine the scene of guy, buy himself, pull up to a hill, and get out and crutches, hobble over to his bike, and then get on a spike, and they go fucking pedal up a hill,

and they go down like, pulse it. Now, did Tom go to our place over at MP hormones? Uh, yes, he is. Yeah, yeah, so they're actually working with him right now. So, and that was eventually what we had to do, because he was so stubborn about, he's yeah, yeah, so he they're they're actually working with him right now So and that was eventually what we had to do because you know, he was so stubborn about he's more into biking This guy obviously is Stevens more into keeping more of a muscular physique Where I had to convince Tom that Tom was so much into the biking doing care But he was realizing he was recognizing what was happening to his body and he was in his levels testosterone levels were so low

That he came to me for that. And I said, listen, just do anabolic and then also, you know, keep your protein tickets. He was really low on his protein, drinking beer is like his, was his thing. And so I, and I, and I helped it a little bit, but that wasn't enough. So eventually he did go over and, and see them. I mean, Tom's in his mid 40s too. So definitely a good candidate for it. Our next caller is Damien from Ohio. Damien, what's happening? How can we help you?

Hey, man. Just getting done with the gym. Actually, I'm really excited that you guys took this question. Basically, what's going on is I'm a professional wrestler. And I just feel like I do a lot of bodybuilding stuff. I would assume that somebody would program it as a bodybuilding routine. But basically what I'm looking for is just to like get some more athletic workouts in. I really wanna get better with the Olympic lifts,

like the snatch, the clean injure, but just the way that I do my stuff, I really like to start with the heavy lifts for a squat, bench press, all those. Just the programming with how many accessory movements there are with the Olympic lifts, I'm trying to figure out how I can incorporate those, still do my big lifts and still go,

get some aesthetic work in because I need to be aesthetic as well. Yeah, so you hold on. So you're a pro wrestler? Like a WWE. So you make money doing this? I do make money. I'm not in the WWE, but it's definitely a goal one day. Dude, that's rad. Do you have any? Do you just go to what you're doing? Damien Chambers. Oh, so it's the same. Oh, that's right. Yeah, dude. Good deal. Okay, so Olympic lifts are interesting, right? Because they're very fast, they're explosive and technical.

I don't think it's a good idea to do them at the end of a workout when you're fatigued. You're probably better off doing them at the beginning of a workout. It should be the core of your workout, you know what I mean? I mean, I can do Olympic lifts and then go into squats and stuff like that. But doing squats and then going into Olympic lifts might be a little more challenging. Nonetheless, I would defer to our friend, Sunday Webster, if you go on his Instagram,

a lookup stuff that he has, he's in Olympia, he was in Olympian, and he's obviously knows what he's talking about when it comes to those kinds of workouts. Nonetheless, you're better off not mixing stuff in one workout, but rather dedicating a day to each one of those attributes in my personal opinion. Well, I think you should have like an Olympic day, your strength day, and then some aesthetic stuff. I don't think doing it on the same day would be a good idea. Oh, I don't think it'll hurt to do aesthetic after you do your Olympic lifts.

I think that I would. I mean, that's true. You can do aesthetics after that. Yeah, so I think, I think you're fun. And by the way, most Olympic lifts, you're gonna, so when you're talking about your core lifts, I'm assuming you're thinking squat bench deadlift, the big ones, right? Yeah, your Olympic lifts, you're gonna get a lot of that, right? So that would replace, like, I mean,

if you're doing like a snatch or overhead press, I mean, it's like a squat or like an overhead press, right? So you're getting those movements in there. They would be the foundation of my programming. And then after I did those movements in the workout, I would then move over into the auxiliary stuff so that, you know, try to push downs and bicep curls and lateral raises and some of your sculpting type stuff.

So, and I think Sal's advice is great. I think that, Sonny Webster, we've been, this has been on the agenda for a long time for us to actually write an Olympic lifting. No, it's just a bummer, we don't have that to defer you to, but yeah, he has great content. We've actually been trying to align with him with that. Yeah, so I would actually get one of his programs,

and then I would modify it a little bit because you're on are, you know, because you're on stage or on camera and video and stuff like that. So you care about how you look, not just how you perform. So I would use his programming as like your base and then I would, you know, maybe cut out a few things or bring, you know, scale back a little bit on probably the volume he's programming and then add in all the kind of auxiliary stuff. I mean, to be honest, too, though, even in maps performance, we have like high poles, and so you could replace that

with like, cleans, snatch, and jerk. And you can throw in some Olympic lifts, the way that we programmed high poles within the structure of the foundational workouts. And so it kind of does accomplish a lot of what you're describing in terms of trying to maintain aesthetics, but also keep that high level functional strength and mobility and movement. So in terms of like a broad stroke kind of training guide, like I think that's going

to accomplish your needs the best from what we have. But like for what they're not saying anything that I disagree with, I would definitely split it up. So if you wanted to really focus in on the lipical list, I would replace those big compound lifts with those that day specifically and then do your compound lifts another day and kind of split it up throughout the week. The challenge I'm having right now

with like kind of wrapping my brain with giving you something more specific is if I'm hearing you correctly, I feel like you really care about how you look because you're on stage type of athlete, right? So you gotta look cool, right? You gotta look to part while you're out there, but then personally, you also would like to, you know, get pretty good at some of these Olympic lifts.

The only problem with that and trying to complement a program for that is Olympic lifting is such a high skill that you need to be focused on at the beginning of your workout and it should be the primary focus. It's not, it's such, this is actually one of the bones we have to pick with CrossFit, is they kind of just throw it in there in these circuits and these crazy routines

and it is such a high skill thing that it deserves the attention to be just focused on by itself. Let me ask you this, like what's your motivation with them? Because you can accomplish a lot of that, even with triple extension and all that, from just box jumps and also kettlebell swings, you're going to get a lot of hinging power from that as well. Is it the power that you want? Or is it specifically you want to get good at those Olympic lifts?

Yeah, it's definitely the power aspect. I feel like being more explosive can definitely help out. Okay. Well, that changes. I wouldn't. Yeah, you don't need to go Olympic lifts. Yeah, you don't need to go super complex Olympic lifts to get that. You can do that with good plyo training.

Mass performances. Yeah, maps performance, dude. Do you have maps or formats? I don't. Dude, we'll send that to you. That one of the phases is power. And we put in there power of the phases is power. And we put in there power movements to improve explosive power, but we took out or we

didn't put in Olympic lifts, specifically because Olympic lifts are so complex. By the time you get good at them, it takes a while to get good at them before you start to derive the power benefits. You got to really get good at the technique, they're very complex. Instead, we put things like high poles and movements with kettlebells and box shins. Yeah, you're gonna get explosive stuff just from that without having to wait for that learning curve

of the super complex Olympic lifts. So we'll send that to you, Damien. No, that would be great. And by the way, that doesn't mean you can't also, because I do know that Sonny has some cool stuff, because part of like a really good Olympic coach, he won't even let you touch a bar for like probably the first few weeks to a month.

Like a broomstick. You have like a broomstick. So there's nothing that says you can't follow a mass performance. So you get the power, you get all the things you're looking for, you're also gonna get aesthetics training that program, which is really perfect for you. But then in the back of your mind, you're like, I also wanna get good at doing some of these things.

There's nothing wrong with you doing a lot of the, you know, broomstick work where you're just working on technique on some of your off days, or you know, at the end of a session, whether it's gonna be so easy because you're doing a broomstick that all it is about form and technique, you can also do that. Just, I would just stick to the performance though,

as far as the programming for your needs and what you want. And then along the way, you can also be kind of practicing those movements. Totally. Hey, are you a good guy or are you a heel? I mean, I'm a good guy. Obviously, it's just whether or not you think I'm a good guy too. I always think I'm a good guy. You're a heel. You're playing the role. That's awesome, man. man good luck Damien. Yeah, thank you guys so much I really appreciate it appreciate it brother We actually you know that we actually have a lot of wrestlers pro wrestlers since the beginning We have we had a couple pro wrestlers at the very beginning that

Bro do you know how athletic you have to be to do that shit? Oh, yeah, you know when I was a kid I remember when I was watching all of the thing I was a huge fan right and as a kid then you learn it's fake You're like oh man, it's fake. But then you realize like, it's scripted, but that's the pain real thing. Yeah, dude. I'm glad I'm still jumping and doing crazy shit. I don't know which one of you asked it,

but that was such an important question to ask him. That was just him. Well, that was a great question is like, you know, why do you want to do a bliss? Is it for the power? And then, as soon as you said that, I was like, oh shit, well, I mean, when we created performance that we wanted to try and give people

the benefits of Olympic lists without the complexity of it. Exactly. And so that was the idea of some of the programming in performance is we recognize that there's tremendous benefits from Olympic living. But we also recognize it's incredibly high skilled and technical and takes a long time to get good at them. So we wrote in exercises that will give you some of those

same things that you would get from Olympic lifted. Well, actually, or many of them. Or maybe some of those Olympic lifts and power cleans and things from the high school kids I'm working with because I really want to accomplish gaining that kind of power and strength and explosive type of movement without all of the degree of risk involved because once you start throwing a barbell around, it takes so much skill to be able to master all those things at once, where if we can limit it down to less variables involved but still have those same effects in terms of what we're pursuing from them.

Why not reduce it down to the meat of it? It's very complex. I remember when I first tried learning Hain Clean, which is not even an Olympic lift. It's like two steps below an Olympic lift, but still more complex than your traditional bodybuilding stuff. I remember trying to do it and it felt like a reverse curl, I couldn't figure it out.

And I had a trainer who was very proficient in Olympic lifts. And he's like, here, broomstick, practice with this. And it like took me so long to move up to the bar before I really got the feel or some of the feeling. I was never really good at it, because I didn't practice it for longer than a couple months. But that's the thing. It's like the power you get,

but you have to first get the skill and the technique, which takes a long time. So if you just want the power, you can cut out that exercise and do other movements that are easier. They give you the power that don't rely so much on that crazy technical ability. Look, do you like our information? Well, then head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out our guides. We have guides that can help you with almost any fitness or health goal.

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