Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1768: The Best Hamstring Building Exercises, the Truth About the Creatine Loading Phase, the Effectiveness of Carb Blockers & More
Episode Date: March 11, 2022In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best hamstring exercises to do in a garage gym that has no cable machines, the creatine loading phase, maintain...ing strength during a cut, and carb blocker supplements. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Fasting is grossly overrated! Don’t fall for the lies. (4:41) Fitbit in some hot water. (13:11) NCI, the highest level of professionalism. (16:04) Caffeine powders are dangerous. (27:08) The health benefits of bloodletting. (34:00) The advantages of taking alpha-lipoic acid with meals from LivON Labs. (42:16) Sal’s latest peptide stack from MP Hormones (48:25) #Quah question #1 - What is the best hamstring exercise to do in a garage gym that has no cable machines? (54:48) #Quah question #2 - What do you think about the creatine loading phase? (58:08) #Quah question #3 - What are your thoughts on maintaining strength during a cut? (1:00:52) #Quah question #4 - What is your opinion on pills or tablets called carb blockers? (1:08:11) Related Links/Products Mentioned March Promotion: Limited Time Power Bundle! MAPS Strong and MAPS Powerlift for the low price of $79.99 ProLon Fasting Mimicking Diet Is Fasting Effective? - Mind Pump Blog Fitbit recalls 1.7 million smartwatches due to burn hazard  Visit NCI Coaching Con for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Personal trainer dies from caffeine overdose after accidentally drinking the equivalent of 200 cups of coffee, reports say How Fred Smith rescued FedEx from bankruptcy by playing blackjack in Las Vegas The Potential Benefits of Bloodletting. Yes, Bloodletting. Visit LivON Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MP Hormones Luna Physical Therapy Improve Your Deadlift with a Single Leg Romanian Deadlift Focus Session – Mind Pump TV The ONLY Way You Should Be Doing Stiff Legged Deadlifts! - Mind Pump TV Build Your Hamstrings with the Stability Ball Leg Curl – Mind Pump TV Build Your Hamstrings- How to Properly do Good Mornings – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump #1755: Insider Secrets Of The Supplement Industry With Mike Matthews How To Do A Turkish Get-Up Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jason Phillips (@jasonphillipsisnutrition) Instagram Jordan Peterson (@jordan.b.peterson) Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness) Instagram
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Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
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This is Mind Pup, right?
Today's episode we answered some fitness and health questions that were asked by our audience.
But we opened the episode with an intro portion.
So we're going to talk about current events.
We bring up scientific studies and we mentioned some of our sponsors.
Today's intro was 49 minutes long.
After that, we got to those questions that I talked about.
So here's what went down in today's show.
We opened up by talking about the lies that surround fasting.
Believe it or not, all those health benefits can be achieved simply by cutting your calories.
Then we talked about how Fitbit had to recall
1.7 million units because they were burning people's arms.
What?
I talked about how I got put on someone's landing page
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Then we talked about the trainer who died
of a caffeine overdose. We talked about the trainer who died of a caffeine overdose.
We talked about the benefits of bloodletting.
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I'm noticing some interesting effects from that.
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Haven't noticed anything yet,
but I'll keep you guys all posted.
Then we got to the questions.
So here's the first one.
This person wants to know what the best hamstring exercises
are in a home gym.
So no machines, what can I do to develop my hamstrings?
The next question, this person wants to know
what we think about creatine loading phases.
So should you load your creatine?
Or should you just take five grams a day?
The next question, this person wants to know what our thoughts were
on maintaining strength during a cut.
So we give some tips on how to minimize strength loss
when you're dropping your calories.
And the final question, this person wanted to know our opinion
on carb blocking supplements.
Do they really block carbs?
Or are they crap?
I think you know the answer to that.
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Fasting is grossly overrated.
Look, all of the purported benefits of fasting, right?
The cell, autophagy, the insulin sensitizing effects,
the reduced inflammation, can all be attributed
to the reduction in calories, it's not really the fasting.
How dare you, you did not say that just a couple years ago.
I know, well, you know what?
No, you know what's interesting is,
well, there's a couple of different things.
And we could talk about, I do believe there are some benefits
the fasting, but it's not what is often sold.
But let's stick to the physiological benefits
that constantly get sold, right?
The cellotophagy, it's great for insulin sensitivity,
reduces inflammation.
When you compare fasting to just regular old calorie restriction,
it's identical.
There's no additional benefits to the fasting.
So the benefits you people are seeing with fasting is just because they're eating less calories.
Well, wasn't this the research that was that Valtor Longgo did? Isn't that what his whole
thing was about was if I put them on this, you know, 500 calorie diet for a week,
would all those same markers as per mimicking diet? Yeah, that's exactly what he did. Exactly.
Now, now, remember, Dr. Valtor Longo's fasting mimicking diet
was based off of what they saw for cancer, right?
So fasting before chemotherapy reduced
some of the negative consequences or side effects
of chemotherapy and increased the ability
of the chemotherapy to kill cancer cells.
So he's like, okay, can we find a way
to get these benefits without completely starving people?
Cause, especially if you're in that situation, right?
You're about to go into chemo,
you're probably already lost weight
because you have cancer, kind of a tough position to be in.
And what they found was indeed that you saw a lot of those effects.
But when you talk about the average person,
you know, the cell fasting is this great way
to do all these incredible physiological benefits,
but it's the same stuff you get with calorie restriction.
Now, does that mean there's no benefits of fasting?
No, I think there are, but I think that they are all,
I guess, psychological or mental or dare I say spiritual
for the right people, because I think for the wrong people,
it's also bad, right?
You take somebody who has eating dysfunction,
which in the past might be, for them might have been
borderline anorexia or bulimia,
fastings a terrible approach.
But if you take someone who's like super afraid
to miss a meal, oh no, I need to build muscle,
after you'd every two hours, this was me, right?
When I was younger, fastening had a lot of psychological
benefits because it got me to kind of break those chains.
But aside from that, yeah,
there's really no additional benefits from fasting
that you wouldn't get just from caloric restriction.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, we talked about this quite a few times
at this point, but really, yeah, for me,
it was, you know, personally,
it was about being able to not be completely on this clock,
on this schedule, like I'm not gonna get, you know,
I'm gonna lose muscle gain and all this stuff
because I'm not like consuming protein
at the right timing and I'm not like
completely fueling my body all the time.
And so you just realize too,
just, you know, your patterns, human behavior
of like throughout the day,
like constantly I'm just thinking about wins my next meal
and to be able to kind of step
outside of that, you get a little bit more insight
in terms of your own, you know, behaviors.
Totally.
Now is there a type of client that you guys,
I mean, I think I've brought this up before that,
I would use it for competitors.
Yes.
To interrupt that, you know, and I was like you,
where I used to have this fear of, oh my God,
if I didn't hit my protein intake for the day.
I'm watching the clock, too. Yeah, oh my God, if I didn't hit my protein intake for the day. I'm watching the clock, too.
Yeah, oh my God, if I didn't hit my calories,
that, you know, and why it was, you know,
it was reinforced because I'd get on the scale,
and the scale would show that I was down, you know,
it was downwind, didn't eat enough calories today.
And so, of course, in my mind, I went, oh my God,
I lost, you know, four pounds a day, it was all muscle,
was I feel, because I look flat,
because I'm low on calories, and so I,
it would feel like it was all muscle that had gone away.
And I think that type of person that has this psychological dependence on eating every
two hours, I like to interrupt that for somebody like that.
But for everybody else, I really didn't see that much value in incorporating fasting.
Yeah, you know, it's funny that, because it changed so radically, right?
When we were all early trainers,
fasting wasn't a thing in the fitness space.
Now, you saw some people maybe in the spiritual wellness side
that would talk about fasting.
Fasting's existed in religious practices forever.
It's a form of detachment.
And I can see some value there.
But in our space, fasting was not a thing at all.
And when clients would come in and say they skipped meals,
it was like, don't skip meals.
You can't starve yourself, that's a terrible thing.
And then all of a sudden, we had this huge reversal
where fasting's the greatest thing.
And I get it, you see that in fitness, right?
Where it goes from one end to the other.
But it went so extreme, and then you had these kind of fastings
outlets talk about cellotophagy and tyrophilamatory effects.
And they're talking about all these beneficial physiological effects,
as if they're unique to fasting.
Well, now we have studies to show they're not.
They're not unique to fasting.
If you just cut your calories, you'll get those same benefits.
Now, that doesn't mean that fasting is or isn't for everybody.
I think if it works for you, that's totally fine.
But you can't sell it anymore as this like physiological miracle that you can't get from
regular, you know, caloric restriction.
You do.
You cut your calories, you cut your proteins, your carbs, your fats, and you compare yourself
to somebody who eats in a, you know, a feeding window, a short feeding window, both people
being calorie, you know, being calorie deficit, same effects.
You don't see any big, any big.
Well, I mean, if it works for in terms of being able to kind of keep a certain maintenance
of calories, like, you know, people eat in totally different schedules based off of their
work and their lifestyle and all that stuff.
So it's like, you know, it's not like coming at people who have like this window that they
have a nice structure
with that works for them.
It's really just like realize that you just
are reducing your calories to this amount
and all those benefits are the same.
It's not because of, you know,
this specific window you've created.
Well, what's your guys' thoughts on that?
Because there's a lot of people
that would make that argument.
Like, oh, you know, it just works really well with me
because, you know, if I don't eat till two
or three in the afternoon, it keeps my calories down. But then I would question, you know, are just works really well with me because, you know, if I don't eat till two or three in the afternoon, it keeps my calories down.
But then I would question, you know,
are they getting enough nutrients that their body needs
to build muscle and for long-term health?
Like, sure, like in a short term.
The exact amount of their hormones in terms of...
Right, so in a short term, I understand that,
okay, it could be a good strategy
to keep somebody to keep their calories down a little bit.
But then one of the things I always found
when I would do these, you know,
if you were doing consistently intermittent fasting
every single day, only eating in that window,
I mean, I already have a hard time hitting my protein
and take with all 24 hours of it,
it's affordable to me,
but if I condensed it down to the six or eight hour window,
okay, sure, it helped me not over-consume calories,
but then I now had that same challenge
that I had before as a young guy lifting weights, which was I couldn't hit those 200 grams
of protein.
So, good point.
Yeah, you might be a bit nutrient deficient.
You should probably test that, right?
Yeah.
Because it would be hard to be consistently hitting all of those.
Yeah, totally.
And, you know, okay, so evolutionarily speaking, because there's an evolutionary argument,
right?
That humans evolved with long periods of time
without food.
I've talked about this in our early podcasts,
and I speculate this is probably why you see the benefits.
But it's becoming quite clear,
it's not the without food period that gave us those benefits,
but rather the low calories.
So it really doesn't make a difference.
Now, to what you're saying, I agree.
I think for some people it works, okay,
and for other people it doesn't. Like if you take somebody, like you were saying, Adam agree. I think for some people it works okay, and for other people it doesn't.
Like if you take somebody like you were saying, Adam,
who's trying to hit certain targets,
you know what you end up with
when they have the small eating window,
is like this restrict calories or no food and then binge.
No food and then binge.
That's dysfunctional eating, you know?
And I know because I started to fall in that pattern
myself when I mess around with it,
trying to eat the amount of calories that I needed
Believing that it was the the eating window that was providing me the benefit
So like okay, I got to eat 2500 calories in two meals or I eat 3000 calories in two meals
Well now I'm eating two 1500 calorie meals or together within you know a couple hours of each other
Yeah, and it felt like I was kind of stuffing myself right so
So those are the things you kind of want to, you know, pay attention to. But yeah, cooler restriction does the same
thing. So it's not that there's no magic to the fasting aside from maybe the, like I
said, the detachment effects, the detachment benefits that you may get. But then again, that's
true for anything that you fast from, like electronics, you can fast from, you can fast
from caffeine, you'll get some of those effects and it's more psychological than I'm sure we just made a couple people
angry yeah
electronics did you see the big recall on Fitbit no what happened 1.7 million
Fitbits recall why why why would the what is it the lithium or ion battery or
whatever battery that's inside there was burning people.
Oh, that's a legit.
Yeah, I think they had like 190 something complaints
of it heating up and actually burning people.
So they ended up recalling 1.7 million.
What I haven't seen, so I read that news.
I could really feel this burning.
Like, yeah, it's working.
Oh, what's that?
I bet you there was some people
that actually thought like that. Maybe duck to pull up the ticker, I'm working. I bet you there was some people that actually thought
like that.
Maybe Duc can pull up the ticker.
I'm curious.
We almost bought Fitbit last year.
I think we almost, can you remember before he pulls it up?
So before he pulls it up, I think I know what it was.
The ticker was back then.
I think it was around $6.
We almost bought Fitbit.
Did we buy Fitbit? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no, we almost did. Because there's some restrictions in terms of like the data I remember, that was like an issue.
Wait, who owns Fitbit?
Is it Fitbit?
Is it just Fitbit?
Oh, no, somebody acquired them.
Somebody acquired them.
Yeah, somebody did.
Is that right?
Yeah, I don't remember the name of the company, but.
Did you know?
Brilliant marketing on Fitbit's part, right?
We're gonna permanently brand people's arms.
Yeah.
Look at that, it's Fitbit on your own.
Yeah.
That's crazy, and actually burn people? Yeah, yeah, no. I didn't, just, are you kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. prices there. Well, I'm seeing $2,543.
There, and see, it's not $2,000.
That does not seem right at all.
We're valuable in Amazon, I doubt it.
Yeah.
What is he looking at?
I don't know him.
I don't know him.
OK, just in your right.
Google buy Google.
Google buy Google.
Google buy Google.
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Google buy Google. Google buy Google. Google buy Google. Google buy Google buy Google. Google buy Google buy Google. Google buy Google buy Google. Google buy Google buy Google. Google buy Google buy Google. Google buy Googleuous Google. That's right. Okay, this can be right. The company announced that in 2019, it was last year when we were looking at the ticker
and I know it was around $6.
Well, if Google owns it, then maybe we're looking at the price of Google.
That is what Joe is looking at.
Oh, is that what it is?
It says Fitbit here, but it says Onbioffa Bet, which is Google.
Oh, it is Google.
Yeah.
Okay.
No wonder it's at $2,500.
I'm like, damn, we missed out on that one.
Not another one.
Yeah, I was at $6.
We really missed out on it.. Not another one. Yeah, I was at $6. We really missed out on that.
That would literally be the fifth time.
Oh, I don't even bring myself.
I swear to God, you know that the challenge
with your predictions is it only so far,
it only works if we don't take action.
To capture you don't do.
So I'm wondering if we take action
as a word we don't take action.
Well, maybe one of us invest, you know,
as a son.
Without Tony, by yeah.
That would make me more mad.
That would then that would be like HubSpot when he did that with HubSpot because I told the do
Bots up hey, I want to go off subject for a second, but you guys look beautiful with it with the lights
Oh, I know isn't it it's a nice little change in here
My light skin's glowing made a nice investment and trying to make it look all spiffy and good
So we'll see well speaking of looking a certain way,
I cannot believe that Jason Phillips allowed you to wear a fucking taco shirt
on the sales ad page.
What does he think of yourself a favorite girl?
Is it the taco eggplant?
Yes, it's a taco eggplant shirt on a landing page for their NCI pitch towards coaching.
And I do remember you asking him.
Well, so it's because I didn't know what you,
I remember I remember when he was here last
of professionalism.
And he asked, yeah,
so I he's how could I do a quick video with you
and sounds like, yeah, sure.
And then they were running a 50% off enrollment.
And we had Jason on the show and he says,
hey, Sal, can you do a quick video for the landing page?
So when you go to the, whatever the page is,
maybe Doug can tell us what the website is.
If you go there, it's a landing page
for the 50% off enrollment.
So he's like, make a video.
And I had on a shirt.
We'll post it up here if you're watching this.
It's a taco with an eggplant.
So we have one certification that believes in us.
Yeah, I'm like, Jason, you sure you don't want me to change?
No, no, no, that's all good.
It's all good.
And it's up there.
It is, it's on the landing page.
I was just looking at it.
I thought, oh my God, this dude did,
but I mean, I do remember you asked.
You know, I clearly remember you saying,
hey, is this shirt okay?
And he was like, yeah, that's good.
Oh man, that's not a given shit.
Whatever, whatever, we're real.
That's all good. Hey, speaking of, I gotta bring this up to Jess
and I wanna see what happened here.
So, I got, obviously I got kicked off Instagram,
so I'm not there.
So now everyone's gonna go on the Mind Pump Instagram,
under Mind Pump Instagram, just to see what's going on there.
All right, yeah, we're all kind of logged in there.
Reading comments and I'll answer some questions or whatever.
And I don't do too much, so I don't wanna get
the Mind Pump page kicked off too whatever, and I don't do too much, so I don't wanna get the MindPump page kicked off too.
Yeah, please don't.
But I go on the, I went on the,
what is it, the Explore page, right?
Where they do suggestions.
And yeah.
And the Explore page reflects your searches, right?
So if you look up a lot of like booty picks,
you can see booty pay,
if you look up workouts,
you can see workout stuff, cars, cars.
Guilty.
And I'm on there, and there's videos that are,
they're disgusting.
They're the pimple popping squeezing in a-
Oh, shit.
Dr. Pimple Popper.
So gross.
Now, I do wanna say this.
Ever since we brought Courtney on staff, bro.
That's the exact same thing.
That's the only thing she to me, bro.
Ever since you brought the wife on the team, dude.
Yeah.
And I know she's on there.
That's so sweet.
Is she looking up like pimple popping?
So, yes, you guys kind of brought this up.
And like, I thought the same thing,
because honestly, like that stuff is like porn for her.
Like, I'm like, I get caught looking at stuff.
She's always on there looking at like disgusting,
chimp, like, you know, popping of things
and pulling things out of people. Oh, Jessica likes that too. You ever seen packing where theyimp, like, you know, popping of things and pulling things out of people.
Jessica likes that too.
You ever seen packing where they like put like,
gauze into like these wounds and like,
I'm like, what is wrong with you?
It's like, you mentioned that off, you know,
Aaron, like I was like, talk to him,
I'm like, hi, are you looking at this stuff?
Cause they're on to you.
You know, she's like, no, you have to tell,
I'm like, super, she's like so pride's herself being professional. She they're onto you. You know, she's like, no, you have to tell, I'm like,
she's like so prides herself of me professional.
And like, she's all the night.
She's like totally designed.
She's just a bad guy who's denying the booty picks.
This whole tour page is all looking at the candy picks.
Right.
Just in me, you got caught.
Why do they always recommend these becky picks to you?
I don't know, huh?
I'm like, it's like cars like this.
You know, just like squeezing out.
It is disgusting.
It is evolutionary.
That's what it is because when we were back
when we were primates or whatever,
you ever watch chimp videos, that's what they do.
They like squeeze each other's whatever
and they groom each other.
Jessica says, if I have a black head
or a hair to pull out or something weird like that
and I do it without Jessica doing a for me,
she's legitimately angry with me for at least a couple minutes.
That's how you guys pimple porn. Like, you might as well have the URL. She's legitimately angry with me for at least a couple minutes. That's telling you guys, pimple porn.
Like, my...
Well, like, how do you know?
She's showing me videos.
And it's the, I can't, I can't even watch it.
And she watches the whole thing.
And she's like, it's so gratifying.
What the hell?
Are you talking about?
Yo, speaking of porn, you see my girl
posting naked photos again.
Oh, Britney Spears.
Yeah, that girl, that my wife girl.
Ha ha ha ha. What's going on? She's Oh, Britney Spears. Yeah, that girl, not my wife girl.
What's going on? He's all proud. Hey, check this out. Ever since she like, you know, got freed up, right? The whole free Britney thing. Yeah. She's really being free. It was on Instagram. And
she was just naked on the beach, I guess. I feel like I like her more. Yeah. Yeah. Are you with me?
I think she's kind of like throwing it up like, Yeah, yeah. Are you with me? I think so.
I think you are with me.
She's throwing it up like hey.
You know, I just know she's with category
when she's being a milker, coover.
She's, well yeah, she's a mom and she's in her 40s now, right?
Yeah, she's got to be right or close to 40.
She didn't look bad in the pictures,
but she did go off a little bit.
Ever since she got like you said,
she got what would she do?
She cut herself off from the contracts. Yeah, I think the judge finally gave her. They freed her. Ever since she got like you said, what should you, she cut herself off from the contracts?
Yeah, I think the judge finally gave her...
They freed her.
Yeah, she was under the daddy contract
where daddy had full control of her finance.
I don't know what you call her.
And now they were saying...
There's a term for it.
Wasn't the reason they were saying
that they were in control of her finance.
She's a little crazy.
She's a little crazy.
Had them in this happens.
Now she's doing this shit.
Oh, she's 40.
Yeah, so she's... Yeah, well, the level of fame she had. Well, Christina Aguilar's a little crazy. Yeah, this happens. Not she's doing this shit. Oh, she's 40. Okay. Yeah. So she's,
you know, I mean, the level of fame she had.
Well, Christina Aguilar is a year older. I thought she was actually younger.
You, it's funny. You brought that up because that just reminded me
something I had on my nose to tell you guys. Do you know? Okay. So I've been
pushing you guys on the, the whole ways thing, the ways app. Yeah.
Right? Because of the cops and everything. I tell you it's like,
tells you when there's a public. Yeah. So I'm on there yesterday.
And I have an option for Christina Aguilar. What? So I tell you it's like, tells you when there's a public. Yeah. So I'm on there yesterday and I have an option
for Christine Aguilera.
What?
So I click on it.
So she talks to me now.
What?
On your way there.
So she gives me my directions and she's like,
when there's obstacles, like she'll say things like
like obstacle, something about like, you know,
overcoming them, like how powerful it is.
Empowering is.
So yeah, no, it's telephoto.
Yes, yes, it's very empowering.
I've just, I like, I like Justin's navigate.
We drive home, we're drove home together from,
well, he is like one of the generic like Irish chicks.
No, not Irish, it's English.
Oh, it's English.
Yeah, she sounds very, you know, like,
this is actually Christian Aguilar.
So it was an option on the way,
this thing, it asked if I wanted to have her do my directions.
I'm like, how, yes, I do.
So she get like, Ia, some stop signs?
Well, so I mean, I literally only drove today with it, and so
far I saw the obstacles on the traffic, and it was, you know,
very uplifting, right?
I was in traffic, but I felt like, oh wow.
We're gonna get through this.
You're such a do-you-do-you-do-you-do.
We're gonna get through the sound. You're so-you're so-you're-so-you-do here. I was gonna talk about Cougars, because of Cougars.
So it was pretty funny story.
So at the school, it starts out not seeming funny
because there was a lockdown of the school.
So they thought there was a mountain lion
like roaming through.
Yeah, that's funny Adam.
It was a bomb throw.
What you do without mine, I mean,
either one of those were funny.
That's cool.
Yeah, so, guess like this is like that game, like telephone, right?
So you, you, you, you know, tell the next person it gets distorted.
And so this is kind of what happened, like, there's a big tall tale.
It turns out that they did some investigating.
They were looking around after they shut the school down.
And it was just a big fat tabby cat
That someone thought was that somebody outlying yeah, like roll
What did said it was like a big cat another kid was like oh, it's a big cat
And then it's a cooler and then like and then they shut the school down and as they shut the school down
Like some kid was like still in the bathroom, right?
Everybody was gone and like all of the the classrooms were locked and he's like freaking out
Over like a tabby cat. Oh my god. Yeah, so have you guys seen now that everybody has those surveillance cameras like ring and you know
There's a alarm cameras. Yeah people now are because this is I didn't realize this but apparently
There's a lot of neighborhoods, especially here in the Bay Area, where these mountain lions, they roam like neighborhoods, early morning.
They've been in my backyard before, we see them on the road camera.
Yeah, so people will post pictures of these mountain lions on their car or walking on
their lawn.
They make crazy weird noises too, at night.
It sounds like a screaming
person. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's super rare, right? That they do anything? Uh, yeah. No, they,
it's super rare. They'll tack unless it's like, I mean, there's been examples of this. I think
even on in Alma, Den on one of those trails where, um, you know, they grabbed like a kid and then
the dad had to like wrestle them out. I swear to God, this happens.
So I've seen one.
Quick silver.
I've seen one on a trail before.
Exactly.
That's the trail.
So I was on that trail and I turned a corner
and there was one just chilling.
Just look at it at me.
And you know, it's some freaking wild animal
in right there.
And mountain lions are legit.
Like I think you can take it.
Well, little dogs and like kids,
you gotta really watch out for it for sure.
Hey, speaking of dads and rescuing
So that did you guys finally read the news on Kane Vlasquez? Did you see that? Oh, so he yeah, so he shot
I this is what I heard right he shot somebody that tried to molest his niece
Is that what it was? Yeah, it's I think it's his niece. Maybe Doug can look up. I mean, it's all over the family member
I didn't know exactly which yeah, I think it was niece
I think it was like a four-year-old niece. I think there should be a law that says if that person has found guilty of molesting
your kid, that you are absolved of all.
Definitely reduced sentence.
Yeah, like you got to do community service.
It's gonna be interesting to see what they do.
I mean, I think what happened was he went after him and the dude fled the scene and had
somebody else with him and they took off in a car and came happened was he went after him and the dude fled the scene and had somebody else with him
and they took off in a car and came fired a gun at him
and hit the driver.
Let me just try and miss the guy and hit the driver.
Oh, so he didn't actually kill the guy?
No.
Oh, well, that sucks.
Yeah, and he hits the other guy.
Now, I don't think the other guy died.
So, but I do think he's getting attempted murder
on that guy right now.
Wow.
So I hope he gets, you know, I don't know,
that's a tough one for me.
Obviously, we don't want a bunch of vigilantes
because people make mistakes.
And you could accidentally hurt somebody
that didn't do anything,
but on the flip side as a dad,
I don't know if I'd be able to not do something like that.
You know what I mean?
I feel like everybody gets to get like a pass on something like that.
You get one, you get like one crazy pass of like some bullshit happens like that where
I mean, this is like a recurring pattern in your life and you like take advantage and
you kill people just because you just because you think you can or whatever like that's
probably where you're heading that's that's not a good idea.
No need a lot of those.
But I mean, if something happened to a niece of mine
or a daughter or a son of mine, God help,
I'd rather take my chances to cheer.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know if I would be,
I think I would probably do something like that, right?
No, just how it would take over.
Did you find it, Doug?
Yeah, I'm having some difficulty here,
but it sounds like it was an underage relative.
So here, allegedly shot a man accused
of molesting his relative earlier this week.
Hmm.
So.
There you go.
That's what happens.
Yep.
Although, I mean shit, man.
The guy's lucky to be, he got shot
because if Kane got his hands on him without,
he would have been a much worse.
That's why he ran, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Big ass.
He's gonna stick around with Kev.
Let's just come coming after you.
Holy cow.
Hey, did you guys hear about the trainer
that forgot to move the decimal on his caffeine?
Oh, I did.
He died.
He died, dude.
It was like 200 cups of coffee.
Yeah, so if you, and this is one of the reasons
why caffeine powders, there's been this push to make them illegal. Yeah, it's super dangerous because
milligrams in grams is a big difference right like 200 okay, so a serving of caffeine typical is two or three hundred milligrams
like a strong pre workout will have like 300 milligrams caffeine
that is
That's not even that's only one third of a gram of caffeine, right? So if somebody messes up and doesn't realize milligrams to grams and goes, oh, 300 grams,
well, now they just took 3,000 milligrams of caffeine.
And they're going to die.
That's not the first time, that's not the first time that's happened.
There was a kid, I believe in the UK, that did the same thing where he took a scoop, because
caffeine powder can be very, very concentrated.
Super concentrated.
So think about this way.
You know how much five grams of creatinus.
It's a tiny scoop, right?
That would be like 5,000 milligrams of caffeine
in a similar size.
Well, didn't they try and make a,
because it was the same kind of a thing
with the powdered alcohol.
Like you can buy it online in like,
so they're trying to make that illegal
because you know, powdered alcohol can imagine,
you know, some kids getting their hands on that
and then pouring it in.
I've never seen that before.
Have you seen that before?
Yeah.
Powdered alcohol?
They were trying to make it.
Making the ultimate jungle juice.
It's like super concentrated.
I think they made it illegal because of that.
I'd, you'd seen it though.
I'd never seen it before.
Yeah, it was an article I had read a while ago.
Oh, mm-hmm, about doing that.
That's the thing you gotta be careful
because some things are extremely potent in milligram
or microgrammed, there's even stuff that's microgrammed.
And if you don't know the difference,
then you can really screw yourself
because you look at the, you look at the back of the label
and you go, oh, I have 200 grams all the time,
not realizing that's 2000. You know, I was just had a heart attack
and it was just,
whoa, caffeine, I tell you what, I'm gonna tell you right now.
If caffeine was invented today,
it would 100% be illegal.
There would never, it would not make it a legal product.
There's no way in hell.
And now we have it obviously in kids' drinks
and everybody's drinking it.
That's how potent caffeine isn't
how potentially dangerous it is.
Like you drink, think about this way, right?
You have a rock star, 300 milligrams of caffeine.
If the average person drinks two of those at once, they'll have some severe potential
effects.
Maybe you can slip in that night for sure.
Maybe throwing up, they might have super nodules, they have a look super high tolerance,
drink three of those, and now you're getting close to maybe killing yourself, just from rock stars.
So if it was like I said, if it was legal today
or if it was invented today, it would definitely be,
it would be a drug, it would be a street drug
that you'd buy from your drug deal.
I'd be signing up for that.
It would do.
It's getting fixed.
Since we're sharing crazy stories.
You've been out of the picture.
I run a crazy story and I don't remember
what I was reading but what article or whatever
but there was an article on the CEO,
the original CEO of FedEx, Fred Smith.
Have you heard the story of when they were about
the file bankruptcy and what happened?
Okay, I don't know how I didn't know this.
This was like in the mid 70s,
when FedEx was first up and coming
and they were down to their last $5,000
and we're gonna have to file bankruptcy.
The CEO, Fred Smith, goes and lays it all in blackjack.
No way.
Quadruples is money, comes back and brings the company back.
The most irresponsible thing possible to do.
Never works, right?
Like, ever. It did work, dude.
What a terrible story because some funny things.
I know, dude.
I know, dude.
Oh, dude, I can still do it.
If someone's listening to that right now, they're like, you know what?
I'm gonna take my kids' college savings and I'm gonna just win it in real Chinese.
You know, that's like everybody initially thinks, so then they go there and just get like a
blitterade.
Dude, I told you guys about, there's only one time I've gone to Vegas with a legit high roller.
So this person had a gambling website. This was here. This was a long time. It was like maybe 15
years ago. Back when gambling websites were kind of a start and a grow or whatever.
Anyway, this guy obviously had tons of money and he was friends with a friend of mine. So I didn't
know this guy. And we went to the casino together
and I'd never seen anything like this before
but he literally blew through $30,000
on the roulette table in 10 minutes.
30 grand in 10, I saw him just put chips
all over the table, gone, gone, gone.
Dude, it's really it's like the speed for me.
You know, to lose like, like,
you didn't even sit there for a very long and boom,
it's gone. Yeah. Just like that. My soul's crazy. As you think about it, when you think about
the, the amount of money that person's probably worth. Well, that's the thing that blew me away.
Yeah, that's what the, like, that sounds crazy. Like to you, right? Sure, but to him, that's like me
losing a hundred bucks. Exactly. I mean, it's no, you've definitely seen people throw a hundred,
people that probably shouldn't throw a hundred bucks on their, throw mean, it's no, you definitely have seen people throw 100 people that probably shouldn't throw 100 bucks on there, throw 100 bucks on there and lose it all day long. So when you see some
where he gambling 30,000, it seems like, oh my God, that's so much money, but it's like, that's like
gas money. Yeah, when I went to the Monte Carlo years ago, they have a casino there. And it's one of the,
I mean, you know, that's like one of the richest places in the world. And you have to pay money to
go into the casino. You have to pay a fee. So I did, I went in, get paid money to lose money.
And I saw, and there were, all the tables had a 5,000 minimum euro bet.
Minimum was 5,000 euro, okay.
This was, and this was a long time ago.
So it was like 20 years ago.
And I saw people putting, and I would do the math kind of from a distance and kind of
try to add it up.
And it was like, nobody was bent less than a hundred thousand euro on each thing.
That's the amount. So to these people who are billionaires. It's like peanuts. It's nothing
It just wrote around like whatever. Yeah, no, it's all relative to your income
I've never getting into this with my my but one of my buddies is like lots there
Super conservative with his money was giving me shit about like my cars and stuff and when you when you factor in and he's like
Soup like he's been driving the same car since 2005
and like he's like super tight on.
I'm like when you do the amount of money that we each make
and what you drive and what I don't feel about it.
Well I mean, you give a talk of shit,
he was talking shit to me about being like irresponsible
and like what are you talking about?
Like based off our percentage of our income,
you're spending more than I am.
So it's all relative to it.
Well, it's like this, right?
Trip off this, right?
If you make a hundred grand a year, so six figures,
and you buy a $10,000 car,
which nobody does by the way,
so you shouldn't even use that example.
But let's just say you did, right?
$100,000 you buy a $10,000 car,
which would be, that's very responsible, I think,
by a $10,000 car you use.
Oh, is it?
You'd be responding to say,
that's how a most people do it.
No, most people make $13,000 by a $3,000 car, at least.
But let's say you buy a ten thousand dollar car and you make a
if you make a million dollars, it's like buying a hundred thousand dollar car. That's the
the same ratio right? It's buying a thirty thousand dollar car making a hundred grand
like buying a three hundred thousand dollar car. Right. If you make a million dollars. Right. Yeah.
Totally totally makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So so trip off this right. So this weekend
I went and donated blood over at the Red Cross.
So this is a shortage, right? There's a blood shortage right now. My wife, she does this.
She's now done this a couple of times. It's a good deed to do. Yeah, she brings it up. You
should go donate, you should go donate. And I have Type O, which is the universal one, right?
Type O negative. I don't know. I'm going to out, but I know. So I did. I scheduled it
and I went and of course, you know, because I did. They'll still take it with all the STDs and
everything, too. They will only give my blood screen. Oh, other STDs, can that make sense?
Remember they cancel each other out? But anyway, so I'm over there and I'm, you know, waiting and
Anyway, so I'm over there and I'm waiting and of course I get on my phone, I look up side effects and effects of donating blood. And I didn't know this, so trip off this.
For man, there are legit, like significant health benefits to donating blood.
Okay, so I know bodybuilders that used to do this all the time.
Yes. Okay, now bodybuilders may do it for a different reason because when you're on anabolic, red blood cells go through the roof.
Yeah, that's why donating blood helps keep you.
Yeah, that's why they would do it. This is different reasons.
All men. So across the board, men who donate blood once a year
will reduce their heart attack risk by something like 88%.
So what's why? What's the logic?
They reduce their cancer risk significantly as well, and they're and issues with the liver significantly so what's what's the cause right
Men don't bleed you know monthly like women do so our iron levels tend to build over time and
Getting you know flushing it out. Yes, it's interesting too high of iron is toxic to the body
It can cause issues with the heart. It can cause issues with the liver.
It can increase your risk of cancer.
So when you look up the studies on men who donate blood regularly once a year,
there's significant health benefits from doing so. Pretty, pretty crazy, right? Now, here's
the crazy thing. We heard to me that they don't sell that. They don't sell that idea to me.
I know. I would totally sell that. Right. Yeah.
You know, because now you get all the people
who just want to get healthier
would donate the money.
Right, right, totally.
Now, there are also psychological benefits.
I looked this up as well, and this makes sense too.
There's lots of psychological benefits
because you feel like you're helping people
and you're doing something good for other people.
So that's all, but I kind of figured that,
the physiological benefits though, blew me away.
So here's what's trippy about this.
How many times have we learned about
an ancient or old practice that we've made fun of?
Have some true blood letting, right?
Yeah, like with leeches and all that.
Dude, like, they did this during medieval times
all the time and now the thought was,
like any kind of ailment or whatever,
let's just, you know have you loose and blood
Yeah, they thought you would get rid of the whatever was in you know the blood demons
But what's weird is that there's some there's like this small benefit to it
How many times have we found that so like another one would be like you know you ever seen the masks that?
The black plague doctors would wear?
They don't mask the long ones.
The super long, and then when they would use the long beak
and they would pack it full of herbs and flowers and stuff
because they thought the smell would prevent them
from catching whatever disease,
but in reality, it does, it kept them far away
from their patients.
So they have this long beak
and they wouldn't get very close to the patients.
And that probably prevented some of the infection.
Yeah, I thought it was the not smelled like dead people.
That's that's why they said right because they don't understand.
Because that smell of dead people.
Yeah, because around dead people everywhere did.
Well, they thought that the smell and that's another thing.
They thought that the smell is what brought the illness.
Now, how close they were to viruses and bacteria in the air right?
How close they were without even realizing it.
That kind of stuff trips me out.
It is cool. Like crazy. Yeah, I was anticipating you go in the evolutionary, right? How close they were without even realizing it. That kind of stuff trips me out. It is cool.
Like crazy.
Yeah, I was anticipating you going the evolutionary route
of like, like, men should always have like a gash wound
or something from fighting.
You know, like we should be losing more blood.
Well, he's talking about that before,
the whole scar thing before, right?
Like the women will find a man with a scar on his face
more attractive than that.
It's not funny.
It's so not true for women you that's that that's that right
But if you take a guy who's handsome, right or considered handsome and then you put a scar on his face
They've done studies like that women will find a more attractive. Yeah, did you get to listen that Jordan Peterson interview yet or no?
No, I didn't oh you didn't know why is he talking about no no no no no
It's something else that would have been nice to talk about right there if you actually listen
No, no, it's something else that would have been nice to talk about right there if you actually listen to it
But you never know
Maybe you get just on the show's Doug maybe maybe have just come on here since she fucking reads or listens all the stuff I send it away so we can discuss it and talk about it
Why don't you bring it up?
Well because I mean if you can't have a discussion around it like I need you to have seen it or one of you to have seen it
So we can kind of have dialogue around whether we agree or disagree. He was talking about the primarily with women and what they're attracted to and how they
date either lateral and up.
I've never talked about that.
Women never date, like, well, not never, but more likely will date lateral and up, which
is what makes-
In terms of income or intelligence, all that.
As they become more intelligent
and more financially successful,
the pool shrinks for them
and the opposite is true with men.
As men get more intelligent
and more financially successful,
the pool opens up for them and for women, it shrinks down.
Yeah, I remember trainings
and very successful female entrepreneurs,
business owners, surgeons, and they would tell me
that it was difficult for them to find a person to date because obviously if you're a female surgeon,
to them, not a lot of guys ahead of you. Yeah, to them, it was like, you're right, and they wouldn't
necessarily say it that way, but that's kind of what was happening. I used to watch these shows at
millionaire matchmaker or whatever, and it was like a common thing,
especially it was a lot harder for, you know,
busy, successful women to find a match.
Yes, and by the way, okay, so I've heard people
blame this on insecure men and I'm sure that's part of it.
Like a guy may feel insecure,
dating a woman that out earns him, you know,
that maybe he's perceived to be more intelligent.
So that, I could see that,
but there's another side to it that's also true,
which is that women don't like,
and this is just statistics, typically,
don't like to date men that make less of them.
They, they themselves don't like to date men
who are lower on the financial rank than they are.
So it goes both ways.
But it's, I mean, it's a, it's an interesting thing, right?
It's very interesting, but it's a,
I think, I don't think- Do you not believe that we're kind of, you know, born with some of this?
I feel like the, the, the idea of providing for my wife and child,
I don't feel like it was something, I definitely was something I was taught to me.
It was something that I, it's just, I've felt it inside me for as long as I could,
could imagine.
Yeah.
That's, that's always been in the, in the back of my mind, even what's kept me from
the evolutionary moment.
Maring and having a child at an earlier age was I wanted to get myself as prepared as
I possibly could before I took on that responsibility. That was very important. It wasn't like someone
taught me that or told me that. It was just something I felt inside.
That was the evolutionary argument supports that, right? That, you know, for thousands and thousands of years, most of the time that we are on earth, the male was the provider, would hunt in the protector,
and the nurturer and the one that took care of the offspring was the female. And that
was just the way it worked. Also, why women tend, this is the, again, with the evolution
argument, why they tend to prefer more mature men
Because it meant that they probably had access to more resources
They probably and the same thing with scar right remember we talked about the scar on the face
Yeah, he's probably kicks a mass and survived
He's probably not afraid to you know to get in a scuffle to protect her to whatever
And it's not true in the other direction now., I think that obviously as we evolve and continue evolve,
we can move past some of the stuff
or try to or acknowledge it.
But I also think denying some of those roots
that we have is silly.
I think we need to acknowledge them.
And then if we want to move past them
and change certain things, I think that's totally fine.
But I think denying them, like they don't exist,
is also kind of silly because the data shows up.
Well, I mean, people are comfortable with different roles these days especially, but yeah, denying them, they don't exist, is also silly because the data shows up. Well, I mean, people are comfortable with different roles
these days especially, but yeah, I mean,
it did come from somewhere.
It's not like we just made this stuff up.
Yeah, I felt that way, the same way you're describing.
Hey, I wanted to bring up a supplement from Livon
that I noticed a very interesting effect.
Okay, so at the moment, we're testing out
a continual glucose monitor.
I'm not gonna talk specifically about the company yet
because we still are working things out with them.
But nonetheless, what it does is it measures your sugar levels,
right, your blood sugar levels, your blood glucose.
And so what's cool about this is you can eat food,
you can see how the food affects your glucose,
you can see how your sleep affects your glucose, or lack of sleep or stress or whatever.
So it's all real time, so it's really really cool.
Well anyway, live on has their liposomal supplements.
So and I talk about their glutathione, I've talked about some of their other stuff, but they
also have something called alphalipolic acid.
And alphalipolic acid increases insulin sensitivity and helps bring glucose down in the
blood.
And it's been used to help increase creatine absorption.
So this is for a long time now, we've known that alpha-lapolic acid will increase creatine
absorption because it increases sensitivity with insulin all of this stuff.
Anyway, taking the alpha-lapolic acid before I ate a card heavy or starch heavy meal,
resulted in a lower response.
And I tested it like five different times.
Now, so what is it?
So for me, I hover around the 131.40 as my peak
when I have to write, yeah.
And then I think I come back down to, I wanna say,
80 range, does that sound right? Yeah, 60 to 80 range
I think is and I kind of stayed you're like below 100 when you're fasted and then it goes up as high as I can. Yeah
It's high. Yeah, and I'm really the highest I hit is one for to have even tested it was so although I did go over I had
The Costco cinnamon rolls
Well, have you had no
Bro, I cannot believe someone didn't tell me about these why you? You've been saying that, and I'm like, I don't, you know, bring them.
Because they were introduced to me.
But they just in the package,
or do they have like a bakery thing?
No, just like you, you just toss them in the oven
for a few minutes to heat them up,
and they're ready to go.
And they are better than cinnabut.
I do think they're better than cinnabut.
That's how good they are.
I just got introduced to them.
Literally like two weeks ago,
I had them over at my buddy's house,
they served them, and I thought, oh my God, who made these similes?
I'm like, they're like, that's Costco,
I'm like, get outta here.
And I thought maybe it was like just an anomaly,
like maybe there's something special that she did
or something like that.
So I had Katrina pick them up the other day and,
holy shit, they're like this dangerous.
Wait, so when you eat it, is your,
yeah, and that was so rude?
Yeah, I mean, good ass something to do with eating like three
of them, that might have something to do with it.
So, but yeah, that was, so I would,
I've been, ever since, ever since we got these things,
I've been like kind of testing like different foods.
I mean, it was interesting.
One night I decided to smash 10 tacos,
and I was cool, like didn't even spike me over 140,
kept under like 130 something range.
But then literally, and it wasn't,
I was joking about having three cinnamon rolls.
I had not even a full one of these things,
and it shot me over that.
Have you played with combining fats with your sugars
and trying to see if different things changed?
So I typically eat that way.
So I haven't like isolated,
other than the case where I had a cinnamon roll
just by itself, right?
Dude, I had three blow pops and my shit went up to 180.
Blow pops? Yeah, well yeah, you brought them. What do you act in all surprised? No, I mean, they're and my shit went up to 180. Blow pops?
Yeah, you brought them.
What are you acting else?
I mean, they're only like 40 calories.
Pure.
I know, but it's only 40 calories.
Yeah, but you guys see how I eat them.
I don't, I don't lick them for an hour and a half like you do.
I eat all three of them.
You're right, man.
Remember they, remember they,
Al commercial?
One, two, three.
Three, three.
I go center of a lot of you.
I went in the back and I forgot.
Remember when Adam brought them
Where they would Halloween? What were they from Katrina?
But Katrina bottom for my 40th birthday, and I remember when she bottom like what the fuck's up with the lollipop?
Right and I think it was cuz she you know and in her defense
I think I made a comment like man
You know I was like I wanted a lollipop like literally like I don't know a year. It was a year ago now, right?
Like a year ago. I brought up like I haven't had a lollip, it was a year ago now, right? Like a year ago, I brought up like, I haven't had a lollipop
in like a decade or two, right?
So for my birthday, she decided like, I'm like, I just wanted one,
you know, say not a hundred.
So we had like a lollipop station at my birthday party.
Yeah, so we have shoebox of blowpop.
She dumped them on you.
So I went back there, this was like day three of wearing the,
well, you eat them like tic-tac,
that's what's it even like that. I crunched like three or four of them, dude. you eat them like tick-taxion. That's what's even my day.
I crunched like three or four of them, dude.
And I, anyway, we're still, though, that's interesting.
That's still only, you're only talking about
a hundred and something calories.
It's all sugar, but I think each one's like 15 grams of sugar.
So I had three, so that's 45 grams of sugar,
all one show.
Okay, still not crazy, like a soda.
I'd say, I barely ever drink it.
That's equivalent to you having a soda or something like that.
So here's a deal with mine.
Mine can go
Mine spikes higher than yours, but it comes down really really well the alpha-lip
Polic acid blunted it which was what I guess it I tested it five different to five different times yeah
I would do the alpha-lip Polic acid then I would have a meal that I had before so I knew what my numbers would be
Yeah, and it's like a 20 to 30 point lower drop
Because I saw eat the I'll'll take the aflipoc acid
about 10 minutes, 15 minutes before they need the meal
and they get a lower glucose response.
Really interesting, right?
So I could see benefit from taking aflipoc acid.
So let's say you're an athlete
and you just worked out hard
and you wanna get your glycogen,
okay, so this is like the muscle energy.
You wanna get it replenished as fast as possible
because you're gonna have another workout a little bit later.
Or you have a break and you wanna, you know,
maybe an hour break and you're gonna go back
and go after it again and you wanna get as much
glycogen as possible, alphalo-pulch acid with your meal.
That theoretically should make that happen,
you know, way faster.
Well, I'll play with it now,
because I've been really, I've been really consistent
with mine, so I've been really consistent
and I've been playing around with different foods.
I do find it really interesting.
What I, you know, I know we're not doing a commercial
for them right now, but I do think it's really cool
how they have like a nutritionist that's connected to you.
I mean, she's blown me up more time than I can respond.
She, anytime she notices something different on mine,
she'll, she'll mess it up.
I was monitoring also.
I had a Pizuki the other night.
I was like, did you calm down?
Did you really yeah?
Yeah, like a whole one by yourself. What is it? I shared it. I'm not like a gluttonous pig over it
So what do you guys want to do? Oh, it's like 150. I hadn't got up that high at all like I again like you I got like one 30s
Yeah, I'm kind of the highest they'll go so I noticed so you guys know the worst. That's weird. Yeah
No, that's not because you guys know that I'm messing with the Ibutamorin, the peptide that raises grow form on.
Megs.
So, stupid.
So, what do you think would happen?
We get connected with a TRT clinic.
That also persists.
I knew exactly what was going to happen.
I'm going to have a good time, right?
I'm going to try everything.
So far, I'm trying the NAD plus.
We're just glad you're better at math
than that guy with the caffeine.
Okay, we're just glad.
Yeah, that's a, I'm messing with the Ibutamorin,
which legit, which legit, by the way, for me works.
It's like a, I'm gaining size on it,
which is kind of interesting,
and I get better sleep, I notice the skin,
all that stuff.
But when you raise growth hormone, you will desensitize yourself a little bit to insulin.
So it's not, you should definitely shouldn't take something
that raises your growth hormone if you have issues
with glucose and insulin.
But if you're healthy, you're gonna be okay.
Now, I know you and the doctors are supposed to be meeting
today and putting together a couple different packages
or stacks for depending on what peptides
for where your goals are.
Any idea of when you expect that to be live
for the audience to check out?
I think after I meet with them,
we should be able to have a look.
Oh, so hopefully maybe this week can take.
I'm hoping.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it'll be cool because it gives options
to people who don't need a hormone therapy
but want to go to the next level.
And I say next level because these are prescription.
So obviously, I think if you're unhealthy
and you have a bad diet and you don't work out,
like you have no, there should be no reason
why you're going to work with peptides.
But if you've got everything dialed in,
you're one of those people that really likes
to push it at the next level, see what can happen,
you wanna get monitored, then peptides are very fast
and it's very interesting for what they could do.
So we're gonna put together.
I love Dr. Todd and Ron, they've been, it's been really nice.
So for me, my whole life,
my whole life that I've messed with steroids,
I've done it all myself.
And, you know, right now I'm going through a situation
where this is where it's so nice to have them
because we're trying to figure out
the right amount of a remadex for me to run
because my estrogen levels, I'm very sensitive.
I'm very sensitive testosterone. I'm very sensitive to any generally sensitive. Yeah
I am right so I
Cushing my my body really responds quick to anything that we take and
You know, I thought I had it all dialing because I felt really good
But then when we
did my blood work on at the three-month mark my estrogen levels were too low. Yeah and some
stiffness. I did so that was kind of what it was funny because we had our meeting before my blood
work came and I was like he's asking how I was doing. I'm like man I feel great. I said the only I do
notice is I've got some stiffness in the joints way more than I used to. I'm not really going hard or heavy, so that feels weird to me.
And I know I could be better about my mobility, but it's still a lot worse than I would expect it.
And he goes, well, we'll see when you get your blood work.
Well, sure enough, he goes, well, one of the side effects is low estrogen levels will cause that.
So then he had me completely stop the aromatics for a couple of weeks, but then then my,
then I started a battle, my gynecumastia. That came, that started to come back.
So then I went back to that dose and I just like literally today am I starting to feel
back to normal, but I also want to be able to pull back on the, yeah, I think messing
with your hormones without getting regular blood work to find the ideal, like, oh man,
this was me guessing as a, you know, I'm, I'm you know, I wouldn't say I'm like well read,
but I'm pretty read when it comes to that.
Like I've been,
yeah, you weren't a kamikaze person by any specific reason.
No, no, no, no.
And I had the Anabok Bible and I,
you know, did my fair share of all the forums
and stuff like that,
reading up on stuff and kind of figured out
what I thought was the best dose for me.
But really I was, you know,
trying to get a singer.
You're guessing a whole lot where it's nice to have
somebody who's like, check,
oh, see, what happens is if you're basing it off
of symptoms, you're already behind the apron.
Right.
Because by that point, estrogen now has been too high
or too low for however many weeks,
and now you're feeling symptoms,
and now you gotta play catch up.
Right.
Versus you go get blood work, this is what I love, right?
I'll go get blood work regularly.
Then they'll come back and say, let's try this,
let's try that, or everything looks good.
And I appreciate that versus, you know, again,
you're in the dark, you have no idea what's going on,
and that's when you start to, you know, run into some issues.
Yeah, like the, again, the Ibuda morons,
really interesting, it also's making me hungry,
which is really, which is, which, I'm trying to cut.
Simultaneous, yeah, dude, I'm on Dave, I'm on day four of my cut and I've gained two pounds,
so I need to figure out what's going on.
Dude, you're the most hulkish of ever seen it.
Yeah, yeah.
But appetite's really high.
I got my metabolism going up real high
through this process, so now my appetite's through the roof.
A butymorin is a grellen mimic.
This is why it makes your growth hormone go up,
but grellen also makes you hungry, right?
Cause it's telling your body, you have no food.
So we'll see what happens, but my appetite is just,
it's really high.
But I'm trying to bring it down
because I told you guys, I'm snoring.
That's not good, dude.
And I'm not gonna wear the,
I'll never have sex again mask.
Yes.
I'm not gonna do a fuck to help people use that.
I know, I'm sorry, if you gotta wear that, but don't want to wear a big ass. No, you can control it
And I've been in the same boat as you too like when I start to have sex you get done
Just don't give a fuck Vader mask. You know
That's because you already wear a Vader mask when you try and
As long as you're wearing this no no problem no problem here. Yeah, just paint you just paint it black
It's like in the snow. No problem.
No problem here.
Yeah.
You just paint it black.
Yeah, it looks like Vader.
Yeah, dude.
Looks like Vader.
Choke out.
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All right, here comes the rest of the show.
First question is from AK57,
what is the best hamstring exercise to do in a garage
gym that has no cable machines?
Yeah, I used to think that you needed a leg curl machine
to work the hamstrings.
Now, of course that does work the hamstrings,
but leg curls are not the best
exercise for hamstrings, not even by a long shot. It's all of the, you know, hip extension
movements, right? Your Romanian deadlifts. Yeah, all day long stiff leg of deadlifts, Romanian
deadlifts, you're going to get such better results with that. And you all you need is free
way to do that. As far as working the leg bicep, the part that curls the leg, the
fizial ball does that quite effectively. So you don't combo the two together in bingo.
You've hit the whole thing,
and there's really no need for-
That's all you would need is a stability ball
and or dumbbells or barbells.
That's it, like either one of those are work,
and then you have your RDLs with the physio ball
and your set.
Now I love, you've told the story before Adam,
but I love this as a proof and evidence
of the effectiveness of just dead lifts
and Romani dead lifts for developing hamstrings.
You had said a while ago how you had avoided leg curls
because you were trying to get better at dead lifts.
And when I'm back to do hamstring curls
and we're stronger than you were before.
Yeah, blew my mind.
Yeah, all from deadlifting.
Yes, yes.
And I spent years on the, I mean, lying leg curls were like my staple hamstring move
and I wasn't a big deadlifter at all.
And when I was trying to get,
it was back when we all first got together
and I was chasing you,
your numbers on the deadlift.
And I remember I had pretty much dropped all the,
you know, machine exercises that I was doing
just to get good at the deadlift.
And I was, I don't know, a year and a half later,
or whatever, I decided to return to this machine,
which by the way, I spent my whole life consistently doing
and was stuck around this, you know,
I don't know, I was doing a hundred and something pounds,
I think I got up to not very much on that machine
and was instantly stronger than I had ever been
and I hadn't done it in over a year.
Blue my mind.
Yeah, now in regards to the Physioball leg curl,
like here's something that I really like about it.
So when you do leg curls on a machine,
here's something I used to do with clients.
In order to get them to feel it more in the hamstrings,
so when you're doing a lying leg curl, right,
your thighs are on the pad.
I would tell them to try to lift their thighs off the pad
while curling their heels back,
because they would feel more of a squeeze on the hamstrings.
And that's because that hip extension
engages the hamstrings a little more.
When you do a physical ball leg curl, that's natural, right?
Because you're automatically lifting your hips
and curling the legs back.
So I think that they're even better than a machine leg curl
because of the isolation,
that really feels hamstring.
The ability to, that you really have to work through
to keep everything under control.
Did we mention good mornings in there?
Oh, for hip-hing, but that would just be another one that I would add into.
And then if resistance is an issue with physical ball leg curls, which you shouldn't, because
you can go to one leg.
Go to one leg.
Or here's something that's really interesting.
Do a two leg physical ball leg curl, then bring it back with one leg.
So you get that heavy negative, then bring it back
with two legs and bring it back with the other leg.
Or you superset physical ball leg curls
with your Romanian deadlifts, which is what I would do
when I was really trying to be,
you know, do kind of hamstring focused workout.
But yeah, of all the muscles that would benefit
from using machines, it's really the hamstrings aren't one
of them.
You don't need machines at all's really the hamstrings aren't one of them. You don't need machines at all
to develop incredible hamstrings.
Next question is from Miriam MA.
What do you think about the creatine loading phase?
Yeah, I went back and forth with this for a while.
So when creatine first hit the market in the 90s,
they suggested that you for a week take 20 grams a day,
and then after that take what's called a maintenance, take 20 grams a day. And then after that, take what's called a maintenance phase
of five grams a day.
And the theory was that you saturate your,
your creatine stores.
And then all you need is five grams a day
to maintain that.
And then I, you know, I went back and forth.
I so I did that and then I,
and then I read some stuff.
Yeah, because you're probably thinking,
it's a bit of a hustle, like a marketing hustle.
Yeah, you get through the actual amount of creatine, right?
Yeah, so you're just taking a ton of it all at once.
And then I went back on the other end, I said,
well, studies actually show that you'll get
creatine stores up just fine by taking five grams a day.
But then I read more studies to show that.
Faster, though.
That is true, but you get it up there faster.
So if you're starting creatine and you wanna get
those maximum creatine stores up faster than loading
I guess has some benefit, but I mean how much faster is it get it up a week or two?
I mean I I've trained myself since I was a kid to do the loading phase
So if I've been off a creatine for a while
I just and I don't go like where I'm tripling or even doubling
I just do a heavy scoop for that first week or so. I just real generous when I'm scooping the creatine.
That's kind of what I do.
Now, here's what's interesting too about creatine is...
So, five grams a day is like the standard dose for most people take.
For the brain boosting or cognitive boosting effects,
I had this conversation with Mike Matthews.
We had him on the podcast and he brought this up and I talked to him about it afterwards.
More creatine might be beneficial for the cognitive effects.
So like more like 10 grams a day.
So I've been experimenting with that.
I haven't noticed anything just yet.
So it's just two scoops instead of one.
How's that feel?
How's that sit-air stomach?
No, I have no issues with creatine.
Do you find any issues with that?
Just a certain amount.
Well, yeah, I'll feel the bit in the stomach.
So yeah, I think everybody's either.
I've heard some people write that too.
Yeah, there's, there's, and it's not worth it.
The pitch on the other, other types of 13 came to was because it does upset
some people's stomach and so then they have different delivery systems.
It's delivered.
I've gotten around that with clients.
So I would say out of 10 clients, maybe one might be like, oh, I get a little
upset stomach. I just have them divide the dose.
So instead of doing five grams at once, spread it out.
Yeah, I'll have them do like three smaller servings.
That's what I did.
And the or do it with food, and they notice, they don't notice any, any issues.
The other things you could do is take creatine with sodium or alpha-lapolic acid, which
we talked about earlier, which increases absorption.
So if you're trying to get those creatine stores to move up faster, then combining it with
sodium or carbohydrates or alpha-polic acid should also kind of do the trick.
Next question is from James, heirs 95.
What are your thoughts on maintaining strength during a cut?
That'd be awesome.
That'd be awesome.
That'd be awesome.
That'd be awesome if you can do it.
Now Adam, you're the only one that really did this in the extreme because you competed.
How big of a difference?
Forget the two weeks right before contest
because there's no way in hell you keep any strength
in the death weeks.
But let's just say pre contest versus kind of off season.
How much of a difference would you see in strength?
You lose quite a bit.
You do because you're in a deficit for so long consistently.
You know, like when I,
I mean, when you're cutting for the show,
like I'm not, I'm not talking about, you know, pre cut, like the cut for the show is going to be
anywhere from six to 12 weeks, depending on how, where your body fat percentages. And pretty much
after the first week of consistently being in a deficit, I would notice, you know, my strength
amount, which is also why, and we've talked about this in the show before, why I don't like to be trying to lift, trying to lift too heavy while I'm also
cutting. Messes with your head. Yeah, so it just, it would mess with me psychologically. If also,
and I'm running like a five by five routine, I'm three weeks into my prep, and I'm getting weaker
every week, that can be really discouraging. And since my focus isn't about how strong I am,
going on the show, it's all about the way I look,
I prefer to do more hypertrophy type of training,
supersets, giant sets,
because you gotta go lighter anyway.
Right.
Better psychologically.
It is.
I found the same thing.
I'll much rather do some bodybuilder style,
hypertrophy training just because then I'm not like,
fixate on those same numbers
of the same lifts, you know beforehand be a little bit depressing.
Now that being said, there is value to lifting heavy in a cut.
I actually talked about this on my in my story the other day or on my live I did because
somebody asked like, well why would you even would you ever want to lift heavy on that?
Well, if you're sitting in a signal to the body to build muscle even though you're in
a caloric deficit and you're probably not going to build a lot, the likelihood of
you holding on to more muscle, I would think is higher. Totally. So I think there is an
advantage to lifting heavy as if you were trying to build or trying to go heavy, even though
your body's probably not going to allow you to be hitting PRs when you're in two, three
weeks of a deficit. Totally. 100%. Now, of course, there's
there are places where you will get stronger
when you cut.
Body weight exercises, that's mainly because you're lighter.
So you'll find yourself-
You'll find yourself-
You'll find yourself-
Yeah, you'll find yourself with your strength,
the weight ratio will get better.
This is why performance sometimes goes up
when strength goes down.
So if let's say you're an athlete that agility
is very important in your sport,
and you notice your strength goes down a little bit
in the gym, but you lost also lots of body fat.
You may find that your agility improves
because although you're not as strong with maximal strength,
your strength weight ratio is better now.
So in some cases, you'll see better performance.
There's another scenario where you can actually get stronger
in your lifts during a cut,
and that's when you introduce like a new movement.
That's a good point.
So this is another thing that I like to do.
So if I not only do I like to transition into more
of like a hypertrophy type of training block
heading into my cut, I would also like to introduce
like something I hadn't done in forever.
Like when Justin got us on the windmill kick for a while,
I was on a Turkish get up kick for a while.
Like what a great time to introduce
like a movement you never do when you're also
in this caloric deficit because just the the just the skill acquisition over the course
the next three to four weeks I'll improve on that and a lot of times I can go
up and wait so I might start the Turkish get up and I can only do like a 40
pound kettlebell or something and even though I'm weaker because I'm calorie
deprived I get better at that lift and I actually get to see that go up which
can be very encouraging.
Isn't it just in general in terms of like, you know, the most like advantageous sort of
strategy towards this is to shift into something that's a new stimulus.
Totally.
To be able to preserve as much muscle and get it activated as much as possible.
Yeah, totally.
By the way, beginners will see strength go up on a cut quite often.
So what we're talking about are people who have some experience training.
Yes.
When I would get a new client and, you know, we're starting to get them to get leaner
and we're seeing the scale move down, they would simultaneously always, almost always,
especially when they're new, gain strength and even gain muscle.
So we'd see, you know, seven, eight pound fat loss, three, four pound muscle gain.
Now if you're at the point where you're more advanced
and you're already maximizing everything you're doing,
you're in a bulk and you're pushing muscle size
and you're trying to build more muscle.
And then you go on to cut and you've been doing this
for a while, you're gonna lose some strength.
I mean, that's just the problem.
Well, the newbie claim that you're talking about,
that's the evidence of why you should add a movement
that you never do.
It's like you're getting those kind of newbie gains.
If you've never done a Turkish get up
and you're doing it for the first time
in a sense you are a newbie for that movement.
And so you can reap some of those like newbie type of benefits
of, oh wow, even though I'm in a cut,
I'm getting stronger in this lift.
And I just, I think it's a psychological game
that you're playing.
It's not like there's no like real reason why,
oh, you should definitely do this way or it's the best way. It's like there's lots of different ways you can do this.
I've found it years of cutting and being in this game is that this helps me psychological.
Yeah, I would say so here would be the tips right. Choose new stimulus or new exercise.
Keep protein intake high. Don't do too aggressive of a cut that larger the deficit, the more likely you're
going to experience strength loss.
You increase, yeah.
Supplement with things like creatine, creatine is calorie free, but will boost your strength.
I think those are your best kind of your best tips.
If you do that, then you'll minimize some of that.
But again, if you're advanced and you're cutting, especially once you start to get really
lean, you have to accept that you're going to lose some strength.
Just accept it because if you're so fixated on,
I can't lose any strength, but I'm trying to get lean.
Like, it could be hard to do both.
I feel about like supplementing, you know,
with salt and getting electrolytes, you know,
with just in terms of like performance,
if you are experiencing a decrease in strength, but now like introducing
a lot of life.
That's also when I would run creatine.
So I used to actually not run creatine in a bulk, even though there's tremendous benefits
to doing that.
But again, for the cut, I would save it for the cut.
So it was just giving me that little bit of an edge while I'm lifting.
So the drop off of strength was so dramatic.
It also would hold water in my muscle belly so I wouldn't be as flat.
So that was the other thing that I used to hate about being it.
When you're in a consistent chloric deficit, you never seem to fill the muscle bellies
all the way up.
You never get your feel the same.
Yeah, you don't get that full, that really full look that you're chasing all the time.
Because you're in a consistent chloric deficit.
So I used to love to supplement with creatine at that time,
I'd load the water up by crazy, I'd load the salt up,
and so I would kind of again create this illusion,
it was all psychoactive.
And here's the other thing with the sodium,
let's say your cut consists of dropping your carbs.
A lot of people like to drop carbs when they go on a cut
because it's easier for them to maybe maintain their,
you know, lower appetite or whatever.
When you do that, your body naturally loses water,
you're gonna need more sodium, okay,
because you will feel like crap.
A lot of times, the keto flu that people go through
is actually the fact that they need more sodium.
Or you can do a cut, you're avoiding heavily process foods,
you're eating a lot of whole natural foods.
Well, now your sodium intake is low,
especially if you sweat and you work out a lot.
So supplementing with sodium makes a big difference.
And I noticed this.
I brought that up because I noticed it personally.
Yeah, absolutely.
Next question is from official Bruce Love.
What is your opinion about pills or tablets called
carb blockers?
Yeah, I picture like this.
It's like, this would be so awesome.
I can eat those cinnamon rolls whenever I want.
It's that picture like this.
It's the way it just goes right out you.
No, dude.
You know what they are?
So here's what carb blockers are.
They're components that help with insulin sensitivity or reduce the glucose spike you
may get after eating a carbohydrate meal.
Are there potential benefits that, yeah, they're be, are they fat loss, not really?
Not really, I mean, maybe down the line
because you're maximizing insulin, whatever,
but largely a complete waste of money.
Yeah, not if, if all things are equal
and calories are still staying up, then no.
No, I mean, it might help with appetite for,
and by the way, I'm being super theoretical.
Now, based off of what I've seen with these car blocker
or what, and you know what, the first one was
that I remember, do you guys remember Chromium Pecolonate?
Do you remember that supplement?
This back when we were early trainers.
This was like the first like,
increases insulin sensitivity
and you utilize carbs better or whatever.
It's just a micro nutrient that,
if you're lacking it and you supplement with it,
there's maybe some potential benefits. But that was the first time I heard of that.
Then they came out with more. I talked about alpha-lipoc acid earlier in this podcast.
That has been advertised as a car blocker. It is not a car blocker. There is no such thing
as a car blocker. This is a complete, almost complete waste of money, supplement category.
I've never seen it marketed the way you just described it.
No. It's all like, you know, I can have pizza and then I can still lose weight and like,
it's just like the most ridiculous claims around these things. No, you know, there's also like,
I've seen in the past like fat blockers because you'll eat, you'll take a bunch of fiber,
supposedly binds to the fat, so if you don't absorb it and you poop it out or whatever.
No, total waste, there's nothing that really does this,
doesn't work that way, so, and it's all bullshit marketing.
Don't waste your money.
Now, you may, if you have issues with glucose,
and you have issues with blood sugar and insulin,
there may be some benefits to some of this stuff.
Again, I remember back in the day,
it was chromium, bacolinate, Vanidil sulfate,
was another one that they used to talk about all the time.
Now you're seeing other products being touted
as doing blocking carbs,
which I hate because I think it will definitely give
someone the false impression that,
oh, I'm gonna eat a bowl of pasta.
Let me take my carb blocker pills,
and now all I have is...
Like, everything's gonna be okay.
No.
Because I took this pill be okay. No.
Because I took this pill preventatively.
No, it doesn't work that way.
Now here's something interesting that you-
I imagine for like, I mean potentially for like diabetics
this could have some value, right?
Could be, but you know it's funny,
people who are diabetics who carefully monitor
their blood glucose have to be careful
when they supplement with some of this stuff
because after a while you've got it dialed in
and now what you may actually do is have start to run to some issues with low blood sugar.
So I wouldn't do this without doctor supervision no matter what.
What I was going to say with carbohydrates and I think this is with rice if I'm not mistaken.
I believe if you cook rice, put it in the fridge, let it cool and then warm it up again.
Some of the starch in there becomes resistant to absorption.
So you actually eat less carbohydrates
in the same serving of rice, maybe duck and lukes up.
Yeah, you can do this with certain foods.
I think it's like double cooked rice or something like that.
And you can do this with certain foods.
You can have to look this up.
I don't remember specific.
Well, remember you bringing it up
and I looked it up with the brown rice
in terms of having the anti-nutrient
That's different. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, there was some about cooking rice
letting it cool so it's in the fridge and then you eat it again and then you you utilize less of the starch
Huh, that's in the rice. Yeah, I don't know how big of an effect it is and to be honest. I might be misquoting
What I read so that's what I'm having Doug try to look it up.
But yeah, car blockers, total waste of money.
That wouldn't save you money.
Save your money.
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