Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1793: How to Control Cravings. Tips for Keeping Gains While on Vacation, the Truth About Decline Bench Presses & More

Episode Date: April 15, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about controlling cravings, how to keep gains while going on vacation, the benefits of doing decline bench presses, and how to spot dumbbell chest presses. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Isometrics, believe it or not, this type of training builds muscle and burns body fat the fastest. It is the type of contraction that will activate the MOST muscle fibers. (4:01) Adam and Sal recap the NCI Coaching Con event. (16:03) Mind Pump Recommends, State and Liberty clothing. (26:45) The guys speculate on why Elon Musk dropped his Twitter board seat. (29:57) Will Tesla mine for lithium? (34:08) The secret to brilliant kids. (35:10) Why Mind Pump loves Blinkist. (42:10) California’s first lab-grown mosquitoes may take flight stirring controversy. (46:21) #Quah question #1 – How can someone control cravings? (52:05) #Quah question #2 – How can I keep my gains while going on vacation for three weeks? (1:01:57) #Quah question #3 -  What, if any, are the benefits of doing decline bench presses? (1:06:35) #Quah question #4 – When I’m spotting someone doing a dumbbell chest press, should I be spotting at the elbow or wrist? (1:09:06) Related Links/Products Mentioned NEW PROGRAM LAUNCH SPECIAL PROMOTION: Get MAPS Symmetry + 2 free eBooks for $97!! **Promo code “SYM50” at checkout** April Promotion: Get MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Prime and Prime Pro all for $99.99! NCI Certifications x Mind Pump State and Liberty Athletic Fit Dress Shirts All-In Podcast E75: Fast shuts down, board culpability, Elon buys 9% of Twitter, deplatforming's evolution & more Elon Musk Suggests Tesla Might Start Mining Lithium The Secret to Raising Smart Kids   Visit Blinkist for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The plan to release genetically engineered mosquitoes in California Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP10” at checkout** Mind Pump # 1682: Bacteria for Muscle Gain, Fat Loss & Health  Resistance Training While Traveling How To Do Chest Dips For A BIG Chest! – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dave Asprey (@dave.asprey)  Instagram Ed Mylett (@edmylett)  Instagram Ryan Stewman (@hardcorecloser)  Instagram Arthur Brooks (@arthurcbrooks)  Instagram Alex Hormozi (@hormozi)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, right in today's episode. We answered four fitness and health questions at the end of this episode, but we opened with a 47 minute intro where we talked about current events and we brought up some scientific studies and we talked about our sponsors. So here's what we're down in today's show. We opened up by talking about

isometrics, the value in isometric training and what they can do to build strength and muscle. Then we talked about the NCI event that we went to over the weekend. So Adam and I spoke Then we talked about the NCI event that we went to over the weekend. Adam and I spoke at an NCI event. NCI does nutrition coaching for coaches, teaches them how to be better coaches online, but they also do business coaching, teaching people how to become more successful coaches. Really, really effective. It's one of the only certifications we work with and we love working with them. By the way, if you go through our link,

if you go to mindpumppartners.com and click on NCI, there should be a special offer for mindpump listeners. So if you wanna be an online coach, go check them out. Then we talked about this store that we went to in Arizona called State and Liberty, super awesome, no affiliation, no sponsorship, we just wanna give them a shout out.

Then we talked about Elon Musk, not being on the board of Twitter and we speculated as shout out. Then we talked about Elon Musk not being on the board of Twitter and we speculated as to why. We also talked about him speculating on whether or not Tesla should be mining for lithium. I talked about a study, talked about the secret to brilliant kids. I talked about another sponsor called Blinkist.

This is a great company by the way. So Blinkist takes books, condenses them into 15 minutes, gives you all the important stuff. It's a very inexpensive membership. I think it's $7.49. You go on there, you're a member, you can listen to any book in 15 minutes, get the gist of it. By the way, if you go through our link, you get a seven day free trial and 25% off the

membership. So just go to mindpumpartners.com, click on Blinkist and fill your brain. And then we talked about GMO mosquitoes being released in California. Then we answered the questions. Here's the first one. This person want to know how they can control their cravings or needed some strategies, I should say, to control their cravings. The next question, this person wants to know how to maintain their physique while they're on vacation for the three weeks. The next question, this person want to know what the benefits were of doing decline bench presses.

And in the final question, this person wants to know the proper way to spot somebody doing a dumbbell chest press. Is it at the elbow or at the wrist? Also, we are launching a brand new MAPS program. I haven't done this in a long time. Very exciting. It's called MAPS Symmetry. This is a workout program designed to balance out your body

to balance the right and the left and the upper and lower half to develop weak body parts. This program incorporates isometrics in the beginning, then there's a lot of unilateral training to help you develop those weak body parts and develop symmetry. And at the end, you do a five by five barbell phase where you get to test out your strength.

Now check this out. Right now with this promotion, you can get map symmetry for $97. It's going to go, it's going to retail for $177. But right now you can get it for $97 because it's the launch. And also with this launch, we're throwing in two brand new ebooks. We have the muscle building secrets of isometrics, which is going to retail for $47, but you'll get that for free. We're also going to give you the reverse dieting 101 ebook, which is also going to be sold for $47, but you're going to get that for free. So $97, you get the brand new program map symmetry, plus the Muscle Building Secrets

of Isometrics, plus reverse dieting 101. You can find this at mapssymmetry.com, that's MAPS, S-Y-M-M-E-T-R-Y.com, and you have to use the code S-Y-M-50. So S-Y-M-50, by the way, there's only 72 hours left for this sale. It ends Sunday the 17th. Iceometrics, believe it or not, this type of training builds strength the fastest, and is the type of contraction

that will activate the most muscle fibers. Ooh. Yeah. I feel like you're just saying that because you're trying to sell a book right now. No. Do you have a good book? We do, we have an ebook on it, but you know,

which is not selling it though. No, you know, put that, okay, aside for a second. When I did research on isometrics, the first time I read about isometrics was as a kid. There were a lot of studies done on isometrics back in the day. And for some reason, the style of training kind of fell out of favor. But when you look at the studies on isometrics, you find like nothing activates more muscle fibers than isometrics. So isometric would be like pushing against something that doesn't move, right? So I'm pushing against the wall and let's say I'm supported behind me.

And I'm pushing as hard as I can. My body is calling upon all muscle fibers because the contraction that I'm, the movement I'm trying to do isn't working. So it's activating more muscle fibers. And then studies show that the strength gains with isometrics are faster than the strength gains you get with concentric contractions, which would be the raising of the weight, or negative, or eccentric, which is the lowering of the weight.

So it's actually the fastest way to gain strength. Not to mention the lowest risk training style you can possibly go through, because you can let off at any time. It's completely controllable and you're not depending on the load kind of moving you around and adjusting with it. Yeah, risk of injuries low and damage to the muscle fibers in the body is low. Now, the one downside is although the strength gains happen fast and furious, they do plateau very

quickly. But this is great information to use, right? When you're training that you can kick off gains very quickly with, you know, well-programmed isometric training. It's just crazy that we don't really do them anymore. What does, do you know what that looks like as far as, I mean, I heard you say that before as far as how, how quick the gains come on and then they plateau. Are we talking about within days, weeks, months, weeks? Yeah, so, yeah, within like four to six weeks, you'll see this really, really rapid-strain thing. Well, what's interesting to me about that, weeks. Yeah, so yeah, within like four to six weeks, you'll see this really, really rapid strength gain. Well, what's interesting to me about that, that's pretty typical for any modality of training.

First, four to six weeks, if you're doing five by five training, you strength gains come very quick and then around, you know, four weeks or so, so it's a taper. Well, what you've seen in the studies is you do see that tapering off, but it doesn't quite slow down as quickly. But the speed of the strength gains with high semitrix is crazy. It's so fast. In fact, there was a study where they had, like every day, regular people untrained, do like five minutes of high semitrix a few days a week.

Now they were untrained, okay. And so they didn't exercise. So this was something new. But they gained significant strength and muscle in a very short period of time. It's a very interesting training tool that nobody really uses anymore. It's kind of wild that that fell out of favor.

I think it's because you can't really sell equipment. Well, no, the opposite. That there is equipment. There's that one machine that everybody talks about that Ben Greenfields talked about. That's a new one. But I mean, they're expensive though. It is, I mean, here's the thing, and we've talked about it before.

That does not replace strength training. With your typical strength training. And the same thing goes with how we're talking about it right now. It has tremendous value to use as a tool or to complement good programming and training, but not as standalone. But they take the science that comes from what you're talking about right now to support those types of machines. That's where that comes from what you're talking about right now to support

those types of machines. That's where that comes from because there are these huge benefits, but they take that and then they run with it. There's a fitness industry in general, right? They'll cherry pick some of the data for that kind of stuff, but yeah, I just think it's such a valuable tool, but also it's a tool. it's not something that is gonna remain at that high of value for so long just doing that method alone. Well, isn't that what complimentary? Isn't that what Dave Asperg was touting when we first talked to him?

No, his was like one max rep with this machine. It's a mechanized version, so it gives you resistance and you're supposed to hold in certain positions, but it also gives you a lot of resistance on the eccentric portion as well. So it is both. So it is really slow grinding type of an exercise, but the whole time you have like maximal effort.

No, I think the key is with isometric contractions, which is where you're holding a contraction, right? Concentric where you lift, eccentric where you lower. They all have unique values, understanding them allows you to program them in ways to be complimentary. And the beauty of isometrics is they don't cause a lot of damage, there's low risk of injury, and they activate more muscle fibers. Okay, so how is this valuable?

Use isometrics on weak body parts or on sticking points in lifts. Like one of the best ways to get through a sticking point, let's say you're squat, you have a tough time at the bottom of the squat and then you get way stronger as you lift up. You could get under a bar and have it be anchored, so it's not gonna move and drive against it, maintain perfect form in that bottom position

and you'll fix that sticking point right away. As far as equipment is concerned, you could do it very simply on your own. You could literally put two bolts in the concrete, some hooks, attach a chain to it, and then obviously you can make the chain shorter or longer, and you could put a bench underneath it, do a bench, at different positions, you could deadlift it, you could squat it, you could curl it, you could do a press off of it, and you're basically pushing against an immovable object.

That's the more advanced form of isometrics. But this type of training was used heavily back in the day. This is how a lot of strength athletes and strong men complemented their training. And people think that, you know, the strength feats that people did in the 1800s, right? That they just don't compare to the ones we do today. They were remarkable.

I mean, Eugene Sandow, who is the statue for the mystery Olympia is based off Eugene Sandow. You could look it up and this was confirmed. You did a one arm bent press with 300 pounds. One arm bent press, 300 pounds. You never held big, he was, he wasn't like crazy. 180 pounds.

Yeah, as I say, he was not like a big, big dude. No, the strength that they exhibited at their size was insane. So this is a such a valuable tool. And think about it, like if you have a weak body part, you're probably not able to activate it very well. You're probably not able to activate all the muscle fibers very well, or not generate the amount of force that you could

so other muscles take over. Isometric contraction at the beginning of the workout gets things activated, then you move in your workout, and it's much more effective. Well, it's interesting how much psychology plays into training and lifting, especially when you're just going through progressive overload. You know what you're capable of. You kind of show up to do your left, and then you test yourself a little bit. But isometrics, I really feel like it stretches but isometrics, I really feel like it stretches your neuromuscular capacity to way more than anything else you can do,

which then opens you up for even more access to all this force production, which if you don't do that, you just kind of like gauge how well you're doing based off of like what I can put up for that day in terms of like if I plate load just five more pounds on each side of the bar. Now you guys are talking a lot about maximal performance, you know, from isometrics, but

I think where I use it the most was like teaching clients, like getting a client to connect to a muscle. Totally. You know, like that was like, I think when I think back to all the clients that we train your average, you know, general population, like they struggle a lot with activating certain muscles. Like some people just couldn't flex the back or they couldn't do a bench press and fill it in their chest.

And so, you know, putting them in an isometric position and having them push or pull against it while also like touching the muscle or telling them that's where you want them to feel it, was a great way to teach them how to connect to that. And they could intensify and then risk free. I mean, by doing that, me putting a 65 year old who's never done a barbell bench press before

under a barbell, the risk of injury with her doing that versus doing an isometric push up against something like is way safer. 100% why I did that in the first phase of restructuring this program for students, right? Because I could walk around and I could see just based off of their form because it's so slow down and they're just sitting in position and grinding.

You're perfect. Yeah, you could just make little alterations, especially in a group setting, was very helpful for that. But also, it helped them really feel, where they're supposed to feel support and what kind of action they're supposed to promote, you know, to bring their body back into starting position.

I like to think of it this way, right? Like imagine like your muscle fibers are all these little workers. And when you're lifting away, your body's like, we need 10 workers and then, oh, it's heavier, we need 15 workers. We need 20 workers. When you're telling your body to push something and it's not moving and you're pushing back, we need everybody. Everybody. Activate everybody. It's not working. So now what you've done is you've activated

all those muscle fibers and you've sent a muscle building or strength building signal. Then you go and you work out and you do that, you're normal workout and you have access to more muscle fibers. What's funny is that bodybuilders, see one of the things about bodybuilding I like so much is they tend to be more experimental with training methods because based off of feel, like I feel this more in this field. And you'll notice that they do esometrics all the time,

either by posing, so posing is that esometric, or you'll hear them say, hold the squeeze. Hold the squeeze for more definition in the middle of the chest, which is false, doesn't work that way. But they would say if you hold the squeeze or hold the peak contraction, you'll see more muscle growth. What they were doing without realizing it was they were utilizing

the power of isometrics. This is speaking of phases, this is the first phase in the new map symmetry program. It's two weeks, it's a short phase because what we're trying to do is get you to activate those muscles so that you can move into the unilateral training, right? So you've got the isometric phase, which is two weeks,

then you move into the meat of the program, which is all your unilateral training. But it'll blow, and already we're already getting reports because the program is already out. We had the forum, the forum had access to it a week ago. And people are already like, oh my gosh, this feels crazy, so different. Well, I think even aside from that,

the, I know I was teasing you at the beginning that you're selling a book, but the truth is we're actually giving the book for free for the launch. But I think this, the first time we've ever done this, where we have, you know, two books that were written that you were giving away with the launch and the isometric book by itself has ways for you, even if you weren't running your actual incredible model in there too.

Yeah. You're, uh, you're, uh, you're asked, is the ask-quees and that one? Is that what the ask-quees do you know? There's a picture of, I'm not, there's a picture of, of Justin squeezing his glutes for a nice, you couldn't see otherwise. I'm just like, I'm actually like,

when do you? Suck him shorts up real quick. It goes, it's like, got a nice credit card, ready to go down. It's like pants, shorts. Just gobble them up real quick. Well, we try, what we were going to do is we were going to have, we were going to put four quarters of his butt cheeks

having squeezed out of dollars. We thought that would be too much. Too much like ATM. But really though, what I started to say was that, you know, quarters and his butt cheeks haven't squeezed out a dollar. We thought that would be too much. It's too much. 18 and a half. But really though, what I started to say was that, you know, even if you didn't follow a mouse program, that book as the tools in it for you to take it and apply it to your current workout or replace certain things or how exactly to implement it and use it because I think that's something that we all agree on.

It's like one of the most underrated and underused tools that you have. Today, and I think it's gonna make a comeback. It's funny because when I first became a trainer, big box gyms, huge gyms, 40,000 square foot clubs, whatever, nobody barbell squatted, nobody deadlifted. This is 100% true, okay? Nobody did. Those exercises fell out of favor,

and they're so effective. Well, they're back in favor now. Now it's hard to go to a gym without seeing somebody squat or deadlift. I think isometrics are the same. They fell out of favor for some reason. People are going to rediscover the power of isometrics and you're going to start to see them become

staples and people's training. Just like deadlifts in squats and kettlebells and driving sleds. Now, you see that stuff in gyms all over the place. And we're speaking of training and working out Had such a great time at the NCI coaching con event every time every time we do stuff like this like it always I mean, I really I can't wait. I'm so excited to get back Into doing the live events again. You know, we totally missed out of Doug and Justin there for sure

I had a bit of FOMO. I mean, it looked like a guy that said a great turn. It's 100% so exhausting. I'm always so exos, I mean, I called last night, right? So I get Vicki to push her back and I was in my eye, I just need to sleep an extra hour tomorrow morning. Like I need it so bad. But it also recharges me for like the next three to six months. So it's like you're exhausted while you're,

while we're doing it. But then what I get and your purpose meter goes up. Oh, it totally does. It does, because obviously when we're doing the show on the podcast, we're talking out to the world, to the ether or whatever. You don't really see the impact necessarily.

But when we go to these NCI events, so NCI for people that know is a coaching company, and it teaches trainers and coaches how to become very effective with nutrition, coaching in particular, but also how to build their businesses. Oh, that communication skills, building their business,

and they've developed a lot of successful trainers and coaches. And we like them because they're legitimate. They're really legit, they've got good information. But these are people actually working with people. So we go there and there's almost 500 coaches. And you meet some of these people and they're like, your show has really helped me be a better coach. And I'm able to share episodes with my clients. And at one point I asked, I went up and did a talk. And I said, how many people in here became coaches because of Mind Pump. And like, I don't know, almost half the room, Razorhand, a lot of people.

And that was really cool because we never, we never push that. We don't push that. People would become trainers. So the opposite. If anything, we say it's a hard job to make a lot of money. It's really tough. You gotta really have a passion for it.

But lots of people, Razorhand, said that we influence them to do that. So what it does for me is it makes me, I feel grounded. You know what I mean? It reminds me of why, you know, we do what we do. But it was a lot of fun, met a lot of cool people that were over there, met some gym owners, even though we tell people not to open a gym. People like, I open a gym because you're a show.

Am I getting sure? Could we tell you that to do that? My favorite is, it's actually, I think it's kind of silly, but I really appreciate and like when I hear from people that you're exactly the same as you were on the show. And I'm so weird to hear, but it's so true. And I think that since we started this, what, 67-year-old act for me. It's not even his real voice, just to show him your real voice.

Hey, guys, I mean, I But you know what what ends up happening to a lot of these these these people that follow People on social media and podcasts and and all that you tube or what I thought is that they meet them And then they end up not being this the the character that they have put out there And I just and we experienced that ourselves with having guests on here that we had followed or known or what I thought and then you see them you're kind of like, oh man, I thought they were going to be more like this or, you know, so I mean, it's a, it's a huge compliment I feel like to be told that like you are who you are, which is kind of silly, right? Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, you never know anymore.

Yeah, today's time. It is a big deal. I remember when I went from being a trainer to getting into management of gyms, back then, the only people that went into management were sales people. And so I was a trainer and I went into management and I would, they were like, why are you selling so much training? How is this, like, what are you doing?

And I'm like, well, that's what people need. It's because I was a trainer. I wasn't a sales guy, right? I was a trainer, that's where I came from. Well, we weren't media people. We started the podcast We're trainers. So we never had any media training. We didn't know that we should be a particular way or whatever So what you see is kind of what you get and it's real, you know, like it or not I guess thank God a lot of people like it otherwise this wouldn't work

But I can't imagine the torture that someone would feel being something else and then getting famous for that. Could you imagine? We've seen it. We've seen it. We've seen it. Anxiety, they're on medication, stressed out. Not, I mean, wealthy, but not enjoying their life. Like, we've seen them maintain the facade.

Yeah, that's stupid. Well, what other speakers were there like and what were your favorite? You know what? The, all the speakers were great. In fact, I don't think I are so he had a hell of a lineup. Now we missed the first day. So we didn't get to hear Ed Milett speak, which everybody said that he was super powerful. Yeah. Sean has said she walked

in to Ed Milett speech in the middle of it. And she says, I walked in. He was already going, right? So she doesn't even know who really he is, what's going on. She goes within like two minutes, I was crying. Yeah, that's how like, and then laughing, like he, I mean, so just obviously, and he was like a favorite from a lot of people, who I really liked, and I wish I remember his name right now, his handle on Instagram, maybe Doug can pull it up, so you can see who he is, is hard closer.

Hard core closer? Hard core closer. Is that it? I think that's either hard core closer or hard closer. I've seen his Instagram for, in fact I follow him because he's connected to some other people that we know. And I've been kind of like, oh, whatever, about him. I haven't really, really followed him.

But I loved his talk. So authentic, great story. Hard core closer. That's right. Ryan Stoeman. There it is. Ryan Stoeman. So shout out to Ryan like really, really enjoyed his his talk did not uh didn't think or know him of him really much before

this. He came across pretty authentic like. Like actionable kind of stuff. So he had killer stories. He's been like in prison came out. Okay. You know made of dollars. That's all. Yeah, lost it all made it again. Um, and then he actually gave like, you know, four very like practical things, things that actually, he was the only person out of everybody that spoke that I took notes like, Oh, shit. Yeah. That's what I was up there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I did, I did because and I came back and he was the one I was telling Doug about him, hey man, there's a couple of things that we're not doing that he talked about that we absolutely should start doing.

Did he hear Salcrush, I'll give you that. I had a good time. I did it well. You know, I tried to focus on, because there was a lot of speakers about like building your business, because NCI, part of NCI is teaching how to be a good coach, and then a lot of these events are also how to build a business, being a good coach.

Because the truth is, if nobody goes into fitness to make a lot of money, and then when you get into fitness and you find you have a passion for it, the struggle then becomes, how do I support myself doing this thing that I love so much? Because it can be challenging. It's not like a, it's not a money making industry like finances, I have family members that are all into

investments and their stock brokers and stuff. We picked the hardest way to make it. If you're like, okay, you made good money. We should be clear though. I mean, so they have two businesses. They have NCI and then they have BCI. So what we were a part of this weekend was BCI, which is, and it's all owned by Jason,

right? So but I mean, BCI is the business coaching institute. NCI is the nutritional coaching institute. So if you're listening right now and you're somebody who's more interested in the knowledge of nutrition, coaching, how to apply it to your clients, like gut health, all that stuff, Jason's got tons of stuff on the NCI side, which is that's where you'd wanna sign up for courses and stuff.

If you're somebody who's like the scaling the business, making more money, that's the BSI. How do I build an online coach business? So of course, this one is to South's point. A lot of this was hype around, getting these people. So I saw that and so I said, you know, I'm gonna take it back to the roots and I'm gonna talk about the key.

Like the root key is to be a great coach. That's it. And what does that look like? And I actually texted Arthur Brooks the day before who, you know, he doesn't realize this, but he kind of mentors me on a few things. And I say he doesn't realize it, because I'm like, I asked his permission, I just asked him questions.

But one of them was like, how should I open this talk? Because he's such an incredible speaker. And he says, remember that all great coaches, or great, I think you said great coaches. Or leaders, probably. Lead with love. And I said, that's perfect. That's from the start.

And then I remember the quote from Thomas Aquinas, that love is to will the good of the other as other. So it's not a feeling like I feel love for you, but rather just wanting you to do well, regardless of how it affects me, good or bad, just I want you to do well. And really good coaches do that because the truth is, you don't always like your clients. You definitely don't always feel love for them, like the feeling of it, but a good coach always does want that. You always want them to do well. What I thought was really cool was to see these people like Alex Hermosi, like the Ed

Mylads. I mean, you had several, couple guys up there have private jets, you have huge motivational speakers. And to see the applause and stuff that Sal got when he got on there was fucking cool Was really really cool to see that I mean I Eat this song choice was different that he chose Dude, okay, so I got a text like I'm like text me and dog is like okay. I figured it out I got the perfect song for Sal to come out to.

So the girl, he's gonna love this. I mean, Jason's got all these people that work for him, right? I mean, one of the girls out there runs like all the music and stuff. Right, but right before Sal's talk, she came over me. She just wanna make this clear real quick that it's Miley Cyrus wrecking ball. That's what he wants to come out to. I probably would have done Madonna's like a virgin. He's like, Cyrus wrecking ball. That's when he wants to come out to I probably would have Madonna's like a virgin. I was like, yes, yes, that's exactly what he wants to come down.

Make sure it's that she's like, are you sure this isn't some sort of a prank? I said, well, I chose it for him, but don't worry. She's like, okay, well, this is on you. So if he gets upset, I thought it was great. You know what? I'm glad he did that. I do. You would play with it.

I knew you were going to get all upset. You know why I like Rocky. Now, you know why I like that? Because I feel like the music that you walk out to you it feels weird to me anyway It's like pretentious. Yeah, what am I fight early? Yeah, so I'd rather to talk yeah, so I'd rather play oh, I can't wait bro if you ever do a talk Somebody actually music I was really really good and man all the trainers it's always So some some Britney Spears because that's your favorite person. Yeah, I read she was pregnant by the way. Yeah, is she really yeah, so where were you nine months ago? So I don't

I don't even know she didn't even know I don't even know. Does she have a man? Or is she dating her? No, what's the idea? No, aren't we? No. That's Justin's all into it, Justin. Yeah, actually, she's got this new guy. He's gorgeous.

Yeah, I wish that was the best. Did you see the meme that my put memes made for Justin on the San Fernando thing that we did in the game? Oh, yeah. That was hilarious. That was good. He's on fire, right? Whoops.

Oh, I want to say one other Whoops. So I know where that is. I want to say one other thing. So Adam set this up, which, you know, Adam, the relationship maker. So we show up there way before we're supposed to be there. And we go to this place called State and Liberty, which is this exceptional, exceptional clothing store for men who have athletic builds.

But it's like nice clothes, like suits and, you know, basically stuff you would wear the boardroom or you would wear it to a really nice event, but all designed for athletic builds, all super comfortable. So stretchy. Bro, we've so sick. You know, you know, first of all, never, okay, first of all, this, this, imagine me, I cannot get a suit off the rack. Adam is 10 times worse because he has a really wide shoulder.

He's a really small buff. You can say it. No. You can never have pants for me. Your bones are different. We took stuff off the rack and they did, they did go to tailor stuff for us just to really give us extra service. But I swear to God, I could have wore off the rack

and it would look better than stuff. Well, we did get some stuff off the rack and we didn't buy. They actually comped it, which was super cool. You know, the thing I wanted to say about these guys is those for you guys. I'm sure you guys will get hooked up. They'll hear this commercial and they'll reach out

to you guys for that because I like being here. By the way, there is no affiliation. We're not getting paid. No, we didn't work with them. We don't work with them. We're not getting paid. No, we didn't work with them. We're not getting paid at all. It was just a really cool. I had a great call with the founder just last week, and he's like an ex-NHL player and kind of told me his story.

And we just hit it off right away. I told him, like I had the call set up and said, like, because he was kind of like, okay, how much is this cost advertised? What does it look like? I said, I'm not interested in any of that right now. Like really, I've really just learning about your company. I had no idea the size. I literally thought they was like a small mom post. 17 locations. Yeah. 17 locations. They have over 100 employees. I was going to wonder about that because I know it seems like a small demographic, but I know a lot of people that struggle with finding something that really fits,

because you get up in size, heightwise, or you know muscular, specifically for fit people. It ends up like a blouse. You know, I bought size 33 pants, which I can never buy suit pants that are 33 because the legs never fit. So I gotta get these quads. Super always a problem.

And they fit, right? They fit me well, the jacket. I could, like I said, I could have had it off the rack. Now they went and got to get these quads. Super always a problem. And they fit, right? They fit me well. The jacket, like I said, it could have had it off the rack. Now they went and tailored to make it even more perfect, but it's all V-tapered and like the shirts are V-tapered and perfect. Oh, it's really dope. I don't know if it exists.

Now that we went and did that and we're in the system now, all we have to do now is like, hey, I wanted to put up a blue suit or I want that pattern or I want this and like all of our stuff and it shows up to your doorstep So all tailored to you No, we should have brought Justin because if let's see we do see if he could break the little test Yeah, quality control. It's you find some pants You know they are shredded quite a few

One of the things that they tell people is after they get all like put the suit on he's like squat them Drop all the down squat. Yeah, the girls are working there kept asking Adam to squat for some reason. Can you squat some more? Did you have a game? Hells pants. They're hand me those pants. Not all going to do right now. I'm just kidding. Hey, so more Elon Musk news. Yeah. He's not on the board.

What? He turned it down. So you know why right? I this is the Another the serious okay, so you probably heard the same thing okay, why I have an idea of why so when you're on the board Yeah, you're gonna say when you're on the board you are not allowed to own more than 14 I believe point two or point seven Percent of the company. That's a rule. So you think he's gonna keep acquiring? Well, now he has no limits. Yeah. Oh, that's why I think. Really? Okay. So because he's not on the board,

he's now can buy as much stock as he wants. And theoretically, he can go crazy and own 51% of the company. If he was on the board, you're not allowed to own more than, I think it's 14.2%. So that's the speculation. Okay. So what I heard, what I heard was the reason why he's not is because they will limit like kind of what he can really tweet about.

Because he's part of the board, the rest of the board will be like, hey bro, you need to pump your brakes. So they can say how he does. Yes. And not necessarily can't, but they have influence on how much and how he's tweeting. And so him not being on the board gives him kind of the irony is whatever he wants. Irony is he has more power not being on the board. Think about it. Because what are they going to do? They're going to shut him down or mute his tweets. Yeah. And what's he

going to do? He'll pull out his shares and take the stock. Take it. Holy cow. Oh, this is love that he's doing this. I just shakes up the board. Oh, I love it. I think it's so awesome. No, no. I saw one sided. I was telling, you should listen to the, I was telling Sal, because him and I know listen to the all-in podcast consistently, and they had a really good portion where they talk about him being on there. And I like it because three of the four guys lean kind of liberal and to hear them have a conversation around Elon, because I know a lot of like, they're all very free speech

guys. Yeah, even though they lean left like they're all very free speech guys. Yeah, they're even though they lean left They are very pro free speech and so they had a really good dialogue around like you know how how he's going to influence that You know, I want to say I want to say something about that the left used to be the pro speech. Well, no, of course They were the ones who pushed it started it. I'm definition of left has been crazy Like the difference. I I'm old enough to remember when it was the right that wanted to ban rap albums and rock albums. Yeah. And they wanted a speech. They wanted a silent speech. And it was the left that was always defending it. Yeah. All of a sudden the modern left is the anti-speech party. It's very strange. But these all identity politics. Yeah. But these guys, I mean, look, free speech, you can't,

it's either all for your none. Because the second you say, no, you can't say this, then who has the power to determine what you can't say? And then it becomes what's popular is okay, what's unpopular is not okay. And free speech specifically exists to protect unpopular speech, that's why it's there. Well, and Jason Calcannis came out and said, well, what about, you know, when Alex Jones came out

and said all these things, and, you know, you win? Alex Jones came out and said all these things. And, you know, I was really surprised to hear the guys like, go, no, no, no, no, no, you can't. Because as soon as you do there, then there's something one degree to that and one degree to that. And that's how we end up where we're at right now, where we're canceling people for just some of their basic views. Part of the great American experiment with speech is that shitty speech, the way you combat it,

is with good speech. Yeah. Not by silence. It outweighs it. Yeah. Yeah. The public opinion sues on the better ideas. You have to make your point.

Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but I mean, seeing what happened with Disney, seeing the move with Elon Musk, I mean, I'm getting a little excited right now. I feel like just like three months ago, I was like really worried like, where the fuck are little excited right now. I feel like just like three months ago, I was like really worried like, where the fuck are we going right now as a country? But it kind of feels like,

it kind of feels like we have swung really, really far one way and we're starting to come back. It's what it seems to bring it back to the middle. Doesn't it feel like that? It does seem that way. You know what it started? Started with the comedians. I first noticed it.

I agree. I agree. Because they were kind of afraid to say stuff on stage for a second. And then Chappelle came out and said, I'm going to say what I want. And then people tried to take them down, but everybody defended him. And now comedians are going hard. Like, bro, I watch shows.

And I have to, I am, and you guys know I like dark humor. And half the time I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe. But I know what they're doing. Is they're pushing back. So that was like the, that right there was the first sign. So it definitely looks like it's, it's like it's starting to balance out a little bit. Speaking of Elon by the way, did you hear his speculation about maybe having Tesla mind lithium?

Uh-uh. Did you hear that? Yeah, actually, yeah, I saw something about that. I mean, isn't it, you can pretty much mind for lithium in a bunch of different locations around the world? Yeah. So the cost of lithium has exploded, obviously as we need more and more of it for electronics and stuff.

And he says, you know, it would make sense if Tesla actually started its own lithium mining side of the business. Boy, would that be insane if you did that? That's all in house. If they mine their own lithium, they would be so far already so ahead Of all the other car companies when it comes to electric cars and I look I take I tell you what I take back what I said about Tesla stock before I always say how like it's over price or whatever

But I know why people put so much money in there is they look forward and It's the leadership. He keeps he keeps doing this. Yeah, he keeps doing this. It's really interesting. Oh, dude, brilliant. I know. Love him or hate him. You can't disrespect that. He's brilliant. It's great. Hey, I got a cool study to bring up to you guys or dads. So I think this is interesting for parents.

There was a 45 year long study on children and they identified how like really smart kids, like kids that grow up to become innovators and who are considered, you know, on that brilliant side of the scale, like the things that lead to that, and they identified something that made the biggest impact. Don't you hear what it is? Okay, so the kids have to start out

with some kind of talent. So it's not like you could take lack of a term, a dumb kid and then make it, that's super innovative kid. Oh, there's genetic, there's a genetic genetic component just like there is with bodybuilding. The guys that are at the highest level of sports or bodybuilding have a genetic advantage and then it's not to take away credit for all the work they did. That's so here's what it is.

So it's kids you have this propensity of this talent in a particular field whether it's art or science or, or engineering. And then those kids get that talent fostered and fed. So education systems that identify gifted children, and then take those gifted children, and then feed the gift, and push the gift, and foster it and facilitate it, tend to do really great.

Now, to me, what's scary about this is all of these public education places throughout the U.S. are starting to eliminate classes like this because they say it's not fair, it's not equitable, let's cut money and take, we don't need these gifted programs. So, what about individuals' feelings versus like the good of us as people. Like that's how these brilliant minds are made. And they innovate and solve problems and make life better for millions of people

versus, oh, I'm worried about the one kid who's gonna feel left out because he did such a terrible way to look at that. It's just weird, you know, it's like, I forgot, you know, universities were eliminating the SATs but they're bringing them back now because they're like, well, I guess we were better off having these tests.

But I know in San Francisco, there were two school administrators that got kicked out, they got recalled. And one of the main reasons was they eliminated, like AP math or advanced math. And a lot of parents were pissed off about that, you know? Yeah, because I mean, the competition to get in schools that, you know, really tough, like, it's really limited, like, who they're going to let in. It's like, you got to be able to do

all these extra things to really, you know, show what your child's capable of. Yeah, and I remember, I mean, I even, I learned this even as a manager, Adam, you talk about this all the time about when your boss, when your mentors told you this, he said, he said to you, stop worrying about what you're not good at and focus on what you're good at and become great. As a manager, what I would do that with my staff, if I had a trainer that was really, really good at assessments, but sucked at sales,

I'm not gonna focus on him trying to do the sales, but I'm gonna have him teach my staff how to do great assessments, and then I'm gonna get my good sales trainer to maybe help sell deals for him or whatever and develop my staff that way, right? And it worked out really, really well. So it's like finding these strengths in these kids

and then feeding that, rather than always trying to move them away from the strength because they're already good at that. Let's just focus on this on stuff. Yeah, enough with this homogenizing everything. Everybody's like equal and no, nobody's equal like we all have strengths that are different and that's okay and we need to build and develop those and focus on that a bit more.

Yeah, totally. Now do you guys see that in your own children like are there things that you guys are already trying to do? I mean, Max is so young, so like I don't have very good examples of that right now. Like the best example I have is like, I remember the first time. He seems to like musical. Well, so the first time we had a live band in our backyard, the kid literally walked up, picked the sticks up,

grabbed him the right way, started hitting them, and I was like, oh my God. And by the way, not long right before that, I was telling Katrina, like we need to slow down with people buying him stuff. They're spaying too much money on him, and then I go run out and buy this freaking drum set. She's like, call me out on it.

Like, what's up with you telling everybody else that can't buy him a fucking toy, and then you go out and buy this serious drum set for him. I said, it's only because I seen him do that. Like, I seen him do something. I saw something in him that I hadn't seen yet. Now, he may play it for a while, never play it, whatever, and maybe that's a little bit of money that I spent that is somewhat wasted.

But I'd rather that than ignore those little signs because I didn't get that. As a kid, like, all the sports I played, all the things I was into, that happened later in my life. When I had friends and I started to get introduced to different things and I realized, oh, I have a natural talent here or I like this a lot, and then I would do it on my own where I do think what your point's out of that study is that,

you know, it helps when a parent is paying attention and they see these, now, now I have all the sports stuff. I would have loved to see my son go, do that. But I'm not trying to force it down his throat because he's not drawn to it. So I'm also not because he's drawn to music going to be like ignore that and let's put play ball son It's like hey if he gravitates towards that I'm gonna try and foster that by supporting it anyway and right now the best way I can support him is by getting him Those things right kids or adults even you're always like think about things you like to do and you love to do You're gonna be better at it just cuz you're gonna Pratt you're gonna want to Pratt bro

This is the secret to making a lot of money in business, is finding the things that you love to do anyways. I mean, that's the truth. It doesn't even feel like work. That's exactly right. If we were, if- You also have the potential to become great at it, because you're already kinda good at it.

Because you think about it all day long and you don't feel like it's work. When you have downtime, you're Google searching, you're watching episodes and podcasts and reading books and because you love it. And if you're counting all those things as work hours or time, like you're not gonna do it for very long. Yeah, you know what I did is with my,

because obviously my two older kids is, now my daughter right now she's still in six grades, so she still gets her classes set up for her by the school. But soon she built a picker class, so I'll do the same thing with her. But with my older son, he showed a talent for certain things. And what I did is I pushed him to do the more challenging advanced version of those classes. And there was a little bit of a conversation around it. He's like, well, I know I can get an A in this class. And that class is going to look real hard. I said, listen, I'd rather you get a C in this hard class than get an A in this class and that class is gonna look real hard I said listen, I'd rather you get a C in this hard class than get an A in this easy class

Which is true? I don't care if you get an A if it's easy. What are you gonna learn and grow from? I'd rather you struggle and push yourself to get the C in something that you might have a talent in like this also like Like that's gonna set you up for real life in real life You may be talented as a kid and that may get you so far But eventually you're gonna be around other kids or people that are talented like you are Yeah, and what's gonna separate you is do you work harder? Can you deal with the struggle? Can you deal with failure? Because and I'm sure people notice this in high school like the the high school kid who kicks ass and

Soccer goes to college all of a sudden is like, oh, everybody else is good too And then maybe does well and then he goes to the pros and he's like, oh, everybody's even better, you know? You gotta keep taking yourself to the next level. You know, speaking of your son, Sal, I was gonna ask you, because we work with a company called Blinksis, and to me, it's like the blink, yes I was saying, right?

It's like the digital audio version of like cliff notes when we were, when we were kids. So I was wondering, does he, does, do you know if digital audio version of like cliff notes when we were when we were kids. So I was wondering does he, does he know if he knows that or do the students like at school, you use that tool because that's like, it's exactly what that's like, right? You get this like kind of like. So here's how it works for people out now, right? So they book reports.

It's like, right. I mean, like I would totally use something like that. Well, so yes, and depending on the class, right? But they, so what they do is they take audio books, they have like 5,000 titles. So they take the audio books and wrote this down. They condense them into 15 minute summaries, focusing on key insights. So they'll take a book, they'll condense it into 15 minutes to really give you the gist of the book. It's seven, it's $7.49 a month. And again, you get 5,000,000. And then also what I really like about it is after you go through that, it's recommending other books around the topic and also counter to that.

So I was actually searching a topic today, which was really cool because I searched it, listened to the book that I wanted to listen to, and then it gave me another one. And I actually, I got a little fired up because it was like totally what I did not agree with, but it was like that was good for me because I was like, oh wow, that's interesting.

So it gave me the next recommendation was like a counter to the one that I reached So here's how I use it I go through and I'll because I often do this I'll look at a book and be like wow that looks interesting and then I'll buy it and I'll read a little bit I'm not really interested in right the way I use it is I get top it like you topics I'll I'll get the 15 minute version and then go get the book and if I really like it then I'll go get the book I think that's how most people probably use it is to just kind of test out You have to try that because Ethan has always been a voracious reader Yeah, and he just like consumes like crazy, but these days it's like

There's all this reservation and he was hanging out with friends But I'm like trying to challenge him to like his level and he's always Taking it back to like the easy reads and he's and so I'm always trying to challenge him to like his level. And he's always taking it back to like the easy reads and so I'm always trying to find like new titles that'll be like just a step above what he read the last time. So I have to get through that. You know what he's at the age,

he's definitely at the age now to be reading like, what's it, a Tuddle Twins? Like they could have been, that company, I think that he might be a little older for that, right? Aren't they, are they ready to do that? Are they ready to do that? You know what would be good one for him to read is the Peter Schiff one that I told you guys about. Oh yeah. That's a good, that he might be a little older for that, right? Are they ready? The you know what would be a good one for him to read? Is the Peter Schiff one that I told you guys about?

Oh, yeah. That's a good, that'd be a good reform. Yeah, you know, ever could. No, my older son loves, like he just read Fight Club. He risked bail wolf, Grendel, and he's like breaking it down for me, and it's like, this is nihilism, and this is that, and I'll be like, man, I wish I like to read like that when I was a kid.

I feel like, man, if I would have caught that fire early on, I would have been so much better. You know what I made you like it? What would have made you like it? Because my kids have, they go to good schools, they have good teachers. I had shitty teachers, but I did have a couple good teachers. That made all the difference in the world.

Like imagine you had a good teacher who would discuss a book in class. So my best teacher was my English teacher, but it was more around writing than she come in. What would have made me really like it would have been pushing me to read things that I'm more interested in versus the books I had to read for school.

Like when you, what I read right now is not what you would find in school. Like I do not like novels at all. You still can't get me to read a novel. I will not read a novel. You didn't even read the romance novel. You're on the cover. I didn't even read the romance novel that I'm on the

Description is supposed to be like me so I think yeah, yeah, that's why she that's why she Conqueries of the movie Not my personality the way I look yeah Oh, my bad, yeah, look. Yeah, I think if I had teachers early on that were encouraging me to read some of these subjects. Totally. You know, my best friend's mom used to, and I used to read these.

She used to get me these cool like entrepreneurial like magazines. Really? Yeah, yeah. So that's great. I mean, I don't really count that as reading, but if there was anything that I was reading when I was at age, it was stuff like that that I was.

That's great. Now I used to read, of course, all the bodybuilding magazines. I used to read this magazine called Omni. I told you guys about that. It's like a sci-fi, we or whatever. Popular science was another popular science. Quite a bit too. I had Cosmo and I'm just kidding.

Cosmo. That's hilarious. Hey, Justin, I got something for you. Just that, because I love sharing the stuff with you, because I know it keeps you up at night. So California is talking about releasing a bunch of genetically modified mosquitoes. Why?

It didn't. They already do this in the Everglades, didn't they? I don't know if they did it, if they ever really did it. They did it in Florida, didn't they? They did it in the East. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember reporting on that because I was freaking out.

Like what? Possible horrible. So it's the company is exit ox attack. And what they're going to do is they're, they're, they're modifying these mosquitoes. And then what they'll do is they'll mate with the females. And then the females eggs will die. They won't hatch. So essentially, they're going to create... They're trying to breed them out. They're trying to create population collapse, right?

Mosquitoes? Yeah, that's kind of cool. Well, I mean, that would be great. Like, who cares? I don't know. Okay, so what, obviously there's always an unintended consequence. So what else do you think mosquitoes influence? Fantastic carriers of disease, right?

This is my concern. Yeah, so they always... It's been tested in a Brazilian neighborhood. It said it reduced the mosquito population by 95% in just 13 weeks. Wow. And that particular thing, they have some data in the Florida Keys that they haven't published yet.

But of course, the fear is, how is this going to affect other animals, insects, what happens downstream, if an animal eats it? What if there's a mutation, like we don't know, you know, some of the stuff, this is what the critics are saying, but, hey, I tell you what, look, you guys know me, I'm always skeptical, but if it does indeed deliver, this will be great. You know how many deaths and illnesses are coming?

You know what, I was really skeptical until we had that great conversation with our friend over at Zbiotics, like, and made me look at GMO a little bit different. I know that like GMO tends to get such a bad rap and a bad name, but there's plenty of like amazing breakthroughs that we're having because of GM. So it's not all bad. And honestly, if mosquitoes are not providing anything

for our environment or ourselves, and it could limit potentially diseases being spread and the annoyance of these fuckers, getting rid of 95% of, sounds like a pretty good idea. It does, so check this out. This is like cackels are up. This is what's interesting, so the only releasing males and males

are not the ones that bite. So you're not gonna get bitten by these GMO mosquitoes. They're also, this is kinda cool actually. They actually bite? Check out this, no, the only the females do. So check this out, they're also inserted a fluorescent marker gene only the females do. So check this out. They're also inserted a fluorescent marker gene into the modified bugs.

It produces a protein that makes it's mosquitoes glow when exposed to a specific color of light. That way the company contract them. So they can like look and see like, oh, there's our mosquitoes or whatever. What? Kind of interesting, right? Very cool.

It's very, very interesting. But like I said, there's people who are a little bit like, well, hopefully none of the Zika ones fly up from South America and sort of do a little inner breeding Well, and some people are like you know, and like other diseases that they might have found their way in there already And then they release a well the other thing too is like you guys this is the first time you guys have heard about this Yeah, residents aren't gonna be told so like you're not gonna know that they just released a bunch of GMO mosquitoes around you, like, you know. They just do it. Who decides the city, I guess?

That's interesting. I know, really interesting. But if it works, I mean, that's great. Nobody likes mosquitoes. Now, what animals eat mosquitoes, and is it gonna hurt those animals? That's what I wanna know. We can like, really,

birds and frogs and spiders. Yeah, like just, you know, you're running. Run it. So we're gonna let Mill kind of of wait. We'll get less spiders too I know I know it's kind of liking it's more like yeah spiders are your friend, do they they kill those little shitty bugs most of them Are yeah, I don't like the way they look bats birds fish frogs turtles. What are bats good for? Mm-hmm back guano. I know that we use that for fertilizer and stuff a lot. We use guano for fertilizer? Yeah, that's super popular. Really?

I only remember it from... That's clutch for marijuana plants. Really? Yeah, back guano. So you would buy... Back, I'd be asked, back, shit, all the time. And I'd use... Where would you buy that?

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How dare I know? Is it magnesium or iron? Maybe duck could look up. What is back Wannow high in? It's really high on a nutrient that I have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have

to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have in a nutrient that that's interesting. I had no idea. Yeah. And it makes a big difference. Where do they grow the, or I guess where the whole debate for the, why it's American? You have to get it from what I'm saying.

You know what? I'm not that much of a nerd. Like you are probably that would want to know, like where did this come from? Like who's catching all this poop? So it's 10% nitrogen, three, three percent phosphorus, and one percent potassium.

Right. Which are all those are the three macros. Look up. What is it? So those are the three macros. That's proteins, is it called? So those are the three macros. That's proteins, carbs, and fats for the marijuana plant. Oh, interesting. So you've heard me talk about that before.

So those, and so it has all three. So it's like a, be considered the, a perfect meal for the plant. Wow. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Little marijuana science for you guys today. Hey, look, life is too short to suffer from digestive problems.

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All right. So before we get into strategies to reduce cravings, I think it's important to talk about cravings themselves and talk about how we can deal with the business. Where do they come from? They're also just a part of life, right? Cravings aren't hunger. They're a desire to, I guess, eat something

that's gonna derive, give you some pleasure, some value, maybe distract you. Really, ultimately, we need to do is change a relationship to cravings because anybody who's ever had lots of discipline with nutrition Understands this like at some point You could still have the craving but your relationship to the craving changes where you don't need to impulsively React or act on them like I've had clients were like it's so hard for me to eat less calories. I'm hungry

Like well, you're the hunger is a signal because your body knows you're eating less calories and you're burning and you're burning body fat So your hunger is going to exist. We have to learn how to change our relationship. I think it's funny that some of my clients have been like, I don't know where it came from. I just had this crazy craving and I had to just indulge and I think if you step out and you logically assess like some associations you have or some tendencies that may tend to repeat themselves. Like if you just are able to really take a look at that and have an inventory of, okay,

when I'm really stressed out or I'm feeling depressed or I'm going to the movie theater, I'm doing X, Y, Z type things, certain foods wanna creep their way in, and then you can kind of look and see what that really is. What percentage do you guys think of it is actually psychological and emotional?

Oh, I mean, I don't know if you can even separate the two. Right, I think. No, I would say that I would combine the two of them in comparison to actual like, hunger, hunger, like so like, it's like a real hunger. Like, so like, it's real hunger. Like psychological and emotional, I would carve off as the same thing, right?

Right. One of themselves or whatever, right? So the psychological and emotional kind of the same thing, and then you have like, actually, your hungry and so your body's well. And then you also have like, your body will crave nutrients that it's lacking. So that's also a sign.

So how do we, how do we know that? You do the vast majority of cravings? Very small percentage of people actually need something to throw. Feel hungry like hunger really doesn't kick in until you're out without food for 24 or 48 hours. Yeah. Then you really and most people in modern societies didn't haven't gone 48 hours without food. Most people haven't gone 24 hours without food. Maybe except for when they were really sick. So they're not really feeling hunger, they're feeling, you know, these cravings. And it's an impulse, you know what it reminds me of, it's like, you know, and you have a kid, you're raising your son, for example, and he gets mad, so he punches the wall or he throws

something. Would you have to teach your kid, you don't teach him not to feel anger, you're going to feel that troll that. Yes, feeling. Yes, it's an impulse. You don't react on that particular feeling because that's an impulse. That's what cravings are. Cravings are an impulse or actually the action you take after cravings is the impulse. We have to look at impulse control or behavior modifications to deal with it. Part of it's becoming aware. What you said, Justin, why do I crave this?

What am I feeling? Am I bored? I'm depressed, I'm sad. Okay, like maybe that's why I want to eat those things. In order to do that, you have to create space between you and the impulse. This is why I tell people, don't have these foods that you crave in your house.

Don't say you can't have them, but don't keep them in the house. That way when you have the craving, you have to still drive the store to get it. And at least that gives you the space to become aware, and be like, okay, I really don't want that. You know it's another great strategy, that's gonna be controversial, that I'm gonna say.

What is it? Do you know? You have a guess? Something that we come out, talk shit about early on, especially. Oh, interesting. I don't, I can't guess right now. Having a cheat.

Six meals a day. Oh, small meals. Yeah, I guess so. That's strangling. The reason why I think you got the best, because obviously it's been disproven, right? The science behind it that they used to say, day. Oh, small meals. You know that the reason why I think you got the best like because we obviously it's been disproven right the the science behind it that they used to say stokes the fire in your metabolism. That's all bulls. No, I see what you're going. If you eat if you eat five or

three thousand calories dispersed over six meals versus over three meals exact same thing. So that's all bullshit. Right. But one of the things that I found coaching clients and because there was a period of time where I used to have them break up their meals. It's not always six. It's like four to six depending on their size, right? Four to six times a day is because they had all these meals planned out and they had something to eat every two to three hours. They never allowed themselves to get to that place where they were kind of depleted in low and they were like wanting, they were hungry.

They were eating before they were almost hungry always. And so and they had, healthy choices lined up. And so it kept them, it kept those cravings at bay, which just made those habits and behaviors better. I see tremendous value in that, even though the fitness community shits on. No, you're right. I could see some value because what it does is it,

the space between meals is shorter. And when you're dealing with cravings and impulse actions or reactions, it's harder to control my impulses if I know I'm not gonna eat for six hours. Like, oh, I gotta go six hours while dealing with discraving versus I only have to go another hour

and I have another small meal. So I think I can manage that period of time. So I totally see what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, I notice it in my own behaviors. I notice that when I'm pretty consistent with getting meals every two, three hours, it's pretty easy for me to make good choices. Like, oh, it's about time to eat again. I'm sure you'll eat this versus getting so busy into work and not thinking about eating.

And then like six hours go by and I have an eight. And now everything sounds good. Yeah. You know, everything sounds good to me. And oh, my God, and I just want calories, and I think it makes the decision that much harder. So even though we know that four to six small meals a day

does nothing for your metabolism, okay? But there are some value in that for somebody who struggles with this. So if you're somebody who knows that you struggle with cravings, and this is a constant battle of wanting these types of foods. Here is a strategy that you can implement that yes, the way we've communicated it for years

is bullshit, but does have some value still. I'm gonna be a broken record, but I'm always gonna mention hydration and water. That too. Mainly because, too, and you know, when you're properly hydrated and you're also eating a regular meal, like how that limits the overall amount that you really need.

Like a lot of times we feel like we need to eat this huge portion, when in fact, dehydrate it, yeah, you're just not getting that signal that we're satiated. So, you know, that's just something like if I can focus on something too, sometimes people need a focus, like even if it's a mouth thing,

you know, and just drinking throughout the day, it does help in terms of like, staving that all. That was one of my favorite strategies about the gallon of water. Was it you just, you keep your mouth, again, not telling a client, stocks, you talk about this in his talk,

and it was you talk about this. I do, I do. Yeah, about not telling a client that you can't have sodas or drinks with calories or that, but just saying, hey, drink your gallon of water first. And if they're busy doing that all day, like they don't... They're less likely. They're less likely to even want to indulge in.

Yeah, now I'm going to go in the other direction. So small meals can definitely help. Now I'm going to go in the other direction if you really want to challenge, and this isn't ideal for everybody, but for some people, this actually works really well. If you really want to face your impulsive nature with cravings head on, and extended fast is actually a very effective way of doing this because you know you're not going to eat for 24 hours, or if you go longer, right, 48 hours, right? You know you're not going to eat

because you're doing this fast, so you just have to sit with it and deal with it. And then what happens is you actually build confidence because well, I've done it now for six hours. Wow, I've done it for 12 hours. I've done it for a whole day. And then in a short period of time, you change your relationship to those feelings

and you actually start to have power over them. Now the reason why I say it depends on the person, I would not recommend this to somebody who has eating disorders and anything like that because that's actually making much worse. I'm done with the average person who, you know, overeats or whatever has never had... Just the strength and the discipline of it. The discipline, right?

No, this, think of it just like training. You're exactly right. And this is how it would look for me helping someone. The first thing I would do is the four to six meals to get them, like, to help them with that. Like, I'm going to do this so they're not as challenged with the cravings to assist them so they get some wins. Let's just be consistent. Let's eat all these meals. Now after a few weeks that we've been doing, I'm going to go, okay, now I want you to practice fasting. We're

going to implement a day of fasting and let and the reason why is I'm going to explain it the way what you just said right now is I want I want to teach you to be comfortable with those foods. So first I'm going to assist you so you're not not challenged as much. And then I'm going to challenge you by not giving you any food and then telling you to learn to be able to sit in those feelings and become real because you're not going to starve, you're not going to die, you're not going to lose a bunch of muscle overnight,

it's going to be good for you and to learn to do that. So I think both are great strategy. Totally, because it is, you said it right, it's getting comfortable with this feeling. Like we don't have to act on every single feeling that we have. Right? I mean, there's ones that we've learned and we've accepted in society, like the, like

the violence one I said, do you know what I mean? Times in the car while I'm driving, I get the impulse to, you know, run someone over or get out my car and throw something out. You know, you just get pissed off, right? That's normal. That's totally normal. But you don't do it because that's an impulse and I control it and I'm okay. I can deal with my anger.

Right. I have to learn how to deal with it. Cravings and these types of these feelings that we connect to hunger, which is not really hunger. It's a craving. We have to get comfortable with that feeling. And some people are so uncomfortable with it that they feel a craving. Like, and they tell you, how do I deal with it? I got to eat something. We're gonna do it. Yes. Yeah. So third level of intensity is taking your kid to go get cookies where they bake it fresh

and then not getting. Oh my god. It's just torture. Yeah. Exactly. That's like black belt. I did that. That sucked.

That's tough. Next question is from Nebz. How can I keep my gains while going on vacation for three weeks? Oh yeah. So first off, it sounds like 25 for me. I know. 25 year old me question right here. I know.

It's so hard to get here, please. I know. So first off, let's address the whole, like I'm gonna lose my gains and all that stuff. So you might lose some strength, you might lose some performance in three weeks. Boy, does it come back quickly? You're barely gonna miss it.

So the week after you go train, you'll gain it back after that week. So whatever you lost in three weeks, you'll get it back. No problem. It's not a big deal. And I want to remind people, when you go on vacation, the goal to go on vacation typically is to relax or enjoy other things outside of your environment. Now that being said, let's say part of your vacation is enjoying exercise.

That's sometimes what I do. I like to work out in hotel gyms and that's part of your vacation is enjoying exercise. That's sometimes what I do. I like to work out in hotel gyms and that's part of my vacation. You only need about one, I don't know, the last study I saw, something like one seventh or one ninth of volume to maintain. So literally, if you work out five days a week,

you could do two workouts and or less or one maintain. And you're not gonna lose anything. 50 push-ups for you gets the pool. So you're gonna lose anything. Come on, guys. You know what, it's helped me, that is probably, I think, one of the most detrimental things about vacation. It's not so much about the working out. It's what happens nutritionally.

Because, like you said, you only need one seventh, the volume. So literally one or two workouts, or actually, I know you're joking, but even doing some push-ups and squats and some basic stuff. It's probably not. Just the cast. Thanks. It's fine. What kills you is to go from, you know, eating your protein and take like you're supposed to and a pretty balanced diet to overconsuming drinking alcohol and underhitting your protein. That's what kills you and not working out. Yep. So you not work out. You don't stimulate at all. You over consume bad calories or not ideal calories. So you not work out, you don't stimulate it all, you over-consume

bad calories or not ideal calories, okay? And then you also don't hit your protein intake. So that's what's killer. So if I could just give you this piece, it's just hit your protein and take still. So don't let it's vacation. If you want to have a drink, enjoy yourself, you want to have a dessert, enjoy your dessert. Just see your protein. Hit your protein and take. And if you get a day or two in there of exercise, you're winning that you're awesome. Yes. Now, is there value in forgetting? I got to watch my diet. Sure. I got to watch my workout. I got to, and just going and just being, and just being in the moment and wherever you're at, hanging out with the people around you. Absolutely.

Does that contribute to better health too? Yes. Yes. You don't have to be perfect with your diet and your training to improve your health. Sometimes improving your health means you're not perfect with those things. You're just enjoying the people around you and having a good time. You know, when I was younger and I would go on vacation, I would work out because I was afraid of losing my games. Same here. Now, if I work out, it's because I enjoy doing it.

It's a new place and if I don't, it's not that big of a deal. And you know, it's funny. I have way better vacations and have I lost any gains from it? No, if anything, it often is the break that my body needs anyway. I'm more likely to work out just because I enjoy it. It has nothing to do with like maintaining gains or, you know, looking a certain way. But yeah, I mean, it's, again, you got to give yourself a break

and a lot of times your body is craving a break and You don't even realize it till you get back and you're like wow, I feel so much stride. I energize. I really ever train when we either travel or go vacation Yeah, just you know, I'm not I'm not listening to that and this is me inconsistent right now And I'm still consistent enough to be able to go somewhere for two days and not train or take a week vacation Once a year and not train is not a big deal whatsoever. And then to your point, Sal, I think that that, it's not really vacation then for me. Like for me, like completely relaxing.

And that doesn't mean that I will intentionally avoid working out if it sounds like a good idea. Like there are some fun or what? Yeah, there are certain types of vacations where there's like a nice gym that's right nearby or it's on the premise Where I'm at and it's kind of cool. It's got a steam room at a sauna and I'm like near beach like okay I'll probably lift there because I that sounds like a fun time for me. Well, we're all planning a trip at some point here Where we're gonna be near a beach like I think it'll be fun one day to wake up and we all go out to the beach and do stuff on the beach

Like some calisthenics or you know lifting boulders or whatever we all go out to the beach and do stuff on the beach like some calisthenics or lifting boulders or whatever we can find out. Just for a lot of fun, but yeah, you got to change your mentality and three weeks is not that long. And most people on take vacations for three weeks. Most people do a week. Yeah, that's right. So three weeks is even longer and you're not going to miss out.

And the same fitness fanatic who freaks out over three weeks, it's probably the person that needs to miss three weeks. Sure, that's usually the case. We listen, hit your protein and take, don't eat like a complete asshole. If you can get a couple workouts in while you're there, you win. Next question is from the real Sky Day.

What if any are the benefits of doing decline bench presses? Yeah, you know what's interesting, but this is an exercise that I'm not super fond of. Just because I feel like dips, body weight dips are so much better. Way better. At kind of, you know, that downward pressing motion that you get.

And the range of motion. Yeah. The range of motion, you can get on a decline bench sucks. Yeah, it's literally like a couple inches. It's so weird. It's, you like, people like it because you can do weight. So you can go heavy.

Yes, every guy I know that does, but you never see a chick doing it by way because they don't give a shit. The guys all do decline bench and they all try and make the case for a wise create. Go do body weight dips or if body weight dips are too easy for you, load them up. Yeah, load them up.

They're gonna get a much greater range of motion. You're gonna get just as much chest activation. No, I'm not going to be trying to bench. I'll give you an alternative if you like the decline is to do decline dumbbell chest press. And when you bring the dumbbells down, flare the elbows out and come back as far as you can. And you'll get a stretch across across the chest. That's actually quite incredible. And then a squeeze at the top. I mean, you know, our bell gets in the way. So the range of motion totally. I definitely agree with that. But then you're also limited to

on how much you can grab and set yourself up for. So it's kind of a pain in the ass. And really what you're doing is you're kind of like, you know, emulating what it would be like if you were to do the dips, you know, saying that the dip bar is just effective. Now what they say is that, oh, decline bench presses works the lower chest, uh, develops the lower chest a little more. And I guess biomechanically, that's somewhat true.

I don't necessarily see though why. I haven't known anybody who needed to focus specifically on developing the lower chest. I almost feel like that's the default part of the chest. I'm gonna do that lift. That's almost like what develops doing a regular bench press the most. It's usually incline, and we're talking

from just an aesthetic perspective, right? It's the incline I'll typically focus on with someone interesting is I think back of when I was like in high school And I thought that it was so important because you had your incline bench You had your flat bench and you have your deep I would hit all three of us every time I did bench So did I look out so it's like you have to do this Yeah, I did the same thing for, many years and my chest got much bigger when I didn't give a shit at that point. Yeah, like you said, real deep dips

that I would do with the rings and get like full range of motion. And it was better than anything else I did. Now, I also don't like the way it feels on my head. You know, you're decline heavy and it feels like your head's gonna explode because of the blood is rushing to your head. Yeah, I don't like hanging upside down.

No, I dips, go dips. Next question is from Rachel J. Fitt. When I'm spotting someone doing a dumbbell chest press, should I be spotting at the elbow and wrist? This is actually kind of a funny question. You know why it's funny? I've done both. Yes, yes, you know why?

Because you're a trainer. Because you do not spot new clients at the elbow. That's a great way for them to drop a dumbbell on the face. And by the way, that does exist. Yeah, it'll collapse down. Don't, don't. So you grab the wrist. But if I'm spotting my buddy, okay,

if I'm spotting Sal, and he's pressing 120 dumbbells, it's the elbow. Yeah. So now, did you start with elbow and then go wrist? Cause like I did. Like you made that mistake and this start happened. And I was like, whoa. So yeah, you learned the hard way.

Yeah, I think both are app, both depending on who you're using for. If you're training someone that's advanced, the elbow, because that's gonna give them a better spot, they're gonna have better range of motion or better control. If you're spotting a beginner. You can also, you can assist more from there

for heavy weight. So I actually just go by weight. Like if you're pressing less than 40 pound dumbbells, I can spot you at the wrist all day long because that's like nothing for me to lift up. But if you're, if I'm lifting it with a buddy or spot some like what do you guys who's pressing it? Well, two is better for them to bail,

you know, if they're doing the heavy weight. With the elbows. So did you guys make them as thick as early trainers? Going at the elbows with clients? You know, I don't know if I remember actually, I do, I mean, I dropped the dumbbell on my client's faces. I've told that story. But you know, that was from guiding her on the wrist the right way.

But then when she was done, I pinched with my fingers. The blades. Oh, yeah, they were like, I almost did this. Yeah, they were like five or eight, maybe 10 pounds. Slipped out of my fingers and pop, bounce off her head. Oh, yeah. Luckily, I had already reached out. No, I remember. of my fingers and popped, bounced off her head. Oh, yeah. Let's go ahead. I already recently.

No, I remember I went to spot a client at the elbows. This goose egg right there. And what they do is you spot at the elbows and they just, they do. Yeah, they collapse. Oh yeah, and the dumbbell went like this and I let go real fast and grabbed it. Thankfully. Yeah, yeah. And then I just went, you know, at the wrist, but no, the proper way to spot depends on

who you're dealing with, how much weight they're lifting. I'm glad that's why I picked this question. No, it's a funny one to think about because I have it. Because I know people are like, it's always at the elbow. No, it's definitely not. No, if you're training a newbie client

and they're lifting, which they're gonna be lifting lightweight because they're newbie, right? You're not gonna have a newbie do an 80 pound dumbbells. So it's a newbie client, I'm at the wrist. I'll guide them exactly what I want. Here's an uncomfortable thing that I know a lot of people don't talk about, but manage where your junk is.

When you're spotting people, you can kneel and do that. You don't need to be hovering over and like tap in the back of the head. This happens, you guys. That's really your friends who are spotted that way. I got you bro. I got you bro Swiping me Justin you did Swiping five. Why do you stop all of a sudden? I hate that. That's hilarious Look if you like our information head over to mind pump free.com and check out our guides

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