Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1808: How to Build Bigger Arms, the Truth About Muscle Confusion, the Correct Way to Train to Failure & More

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about growing stubborn biceps, whether changing phases is effective because of “muscle confusion,” if it is ok to train to failure if only focusing on a muscle group once a week, and whether bodybuilding is healthy. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Here’s a simple tip that will get you leaner and healthier. EAT PROTEIN FIRST! (2:29) Crypto ads are EVERYWHERE! (9:18) People are the currency. (13:21) Why the Supreme Court leak is very scary. (17:28) Should there be warning labels on sugary drinks? (23:44) Caldera Labs is clinically proven to work on ALL skin types! (31:51) Dad life updates with Adam, Justin, and Sal. (38:26) Vuori is your Mother’s Day one-stop shop. (41:42) Will movie theaters ever go away? (45:54) #Quah question #1 - Incredibly stubborn bicep and tricep growth despite all other muscle groups improving. Should I target volume or intensity, and are giant sets counterproductive or overworking? (58:42) #Quah question #2 - Does the effectiveness of changing phases for hypotrophy say anything about the truth behind “muscle confusion?” (1:07:10) #Quah question #3 - Is it ok to train to failure if I’m only focusing on a muscle group once a week? (1:15:08) #Quah question #4 - Is bodybuilding healthy? (1:21:10) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! May Promotion: MAPS Starter Bundle and MAPS Spilt 50% off! **Promo code MAYSPECIAL at checkout** Visit NutriSense for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Why do we Need Protein? - Mind Pump Blog Crypto Advertisements Are Everywhere: The Consumer Isn't A Moron Warren Buffet Just Took Another Shot at Bitcoin. What Does He Know That You Don't? Researchers find Amazon uses Alexa voice data to target you with ads YouTube Algorithms Don't Turn Unsuspecting Masses Into Extremists, New Study Suggests Supreme Court says leaked abortion draft is authentic; Roberts orders investigation into leak Warning Labels on Sugary Drinks: Do They Work? Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 15% off your first order** Caldera Lab clinical trial Preference for watching a movie for the first time at a theater instead of via a streaming service in the United States from November 2018 to June 2020 Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP10 at checkout** Mind Pump #1417: How To Get Stubborn Arms To Grow Mind Pump #1745: How To Pack On Muscle To Your Lagging/Stubborn Body Parts How Phasing Your Workouts Leads to Consistent Plateau Free Workouts – Mind Pump Blog 3 Tips for Better Muscle Growth – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1542: How Bodybuilders Ruined Weight Lifting For Everyone Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jeremy L. Buendia (@jeremy_buendia)  Instagram Chris Bumstead (@cbum)  Instagram

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So starter button will have off, Maps Split have off. If you're interested, go to mapsfitinistproducts.com and then use the code MaySpecial for that discount. All right, here comes the show. Here's a simple tip that'll get you leaner, easier, eat protein first in your meal. So when you're looking at your plate, finish the protein portion, then move on to the rest. This makes actually a big difference. Such a good tip that I wish I figured out early on in my career. And it was, it's like such a simple way to get people instead of putting parameters around their diet,

just like saying, Hey, just when you look at your plate, eat this first and then just see what happens for that. And finish that first. And you know what I realized it myself, I was just as guilty of this. And we, we all, when we go to restaurants, when they restaurant, what are restaurants, always come out for a whist? Yeah, bread Parbo hydrates, all this stuff like that. And then we're all, I guarantee we've all done this before. You've been guilty of like, you go to a really nice like steak restaurant, right? You order your like real, you know, $50 steak or plus, right? Coming and you get all these appetizers and all these other things.

And then you don't even finish this like $50 steak. And you're like, but you're thinking more of the money. You're like, oh my God, I can't believe that. But literally, that happens all the time with snacking on chips, bread, before you eat your protein meal, whether you made it or you're having an arrest. Well, so we were totally validated the other day.

We interviewed a dietician from NutriSense, and NutriSense is a company where they, it's a device that monitors your glucose. It's a continual glucose monitor. So we can see your glucose spikes in drop time data from that. Real time data. And I asked her, and this episode will get released soon, but I asked her, so what's one of the most impactful things that you notice that will cause a positive impact on glucose?

She goes, eat protein first. When you eat protein first, you don't get this crazy. Now why would you want to avoid these spikes and drops? That leads to crashes and energy, it leads to cravings, it leaves the irritability, it leads to just behaviors that tend to make you want to overeat. Now as trainers, we didn't have access to these devices. I wish I did.

I didn't have, I just noticed that when my clients ate the protein first, they less. They just, in protein is very satiating. So they just knacked without telling them to eat less calories. They ended up eating less calories because of it. And then also high protein diets build more muscle, which indirectly burns more body fat

through the fastened metabolism. And most people have a tough time eating protein targets. And so eating protein first just made sense and it worked and it worked well. And that's what it does. It leads to less eating, more stable glucose readings. You just feel better. It's just an easy way to get to your goals. Well, there's so much you want to accomplish in that first interaction with the potential client and trying to look into their diet, try to get good insight and find things and ways to basically change their behaviors

and what they're doing. And I'm always looking for these small hacks and these things that are very simple, very applicable, especially for, like, if I'm in a conversation with my dad, for instance, which is always, we'll interact and he's always looking for advice for things, especially nutritionally. And I'm like, oh my God, what is he actually going to do? You know, that that's a major hurdle. Yeah.

And to just say, hey, just try this, you know, just just eat your protein first before anything else. And that's it. Yeah. I'm going to stop right there, let that sort of play out. How it's going to play out. And you see the behavioral changes that result from that. That's a way better approach. It's psychology of it. You're not telling him, he can't have the other stuff. That's the power in all of this,

because it's amazing how funny creatures we are. If you tell us we can't, how bad we wanted after that. It's like, rebel! Yeah, you may not even have liked the chips before, dinner that much, but your coach or trainer, or whatever, or you tell yourself, I can't have those anymore. And oh, it's so hard now, you know what I'm saying?

You can't have those chips. Now you're playing the devil on the shoulder, angel on the shoulder game. Yeah, it's okay. No, you can still have those chips. All I want you to do is make sure you eat the protein first. So eat your protein first, then I encourage you to have your vegetables.

And then if you still want to snack on those chips, that's fine. Just do it in that order for me. Now physiologically speaking, right? Proteins and fats are essential. That means that those macrata trans, you have to eat because your body can't produce certain amino acids, which come from protein.

Those are called essential amino acids. And certain fatty acids, which your body can't produce, those are called essential fatty acids. So you have to eat proteins and fats and carbohydrates are not essential. That doesn't mean it's not ideal, that it's ideal, but you could avoid carbs for their sure life and you're not gonna die from it

like you would from avoiding proteins and fats. Eating protein first also gets you to eat your fats first typically because most protein sources come along with fats, they're typically most people, it's a meat. So you're getting those essential macronutrients out of the way, meaning most important. And then you move on to the next thing. But yeah, the behavioral part is the big reason why this made a big difference, because protein is satiating. It just is. Carbohydrates are the least satiating macronutrient.

Protein is the most fat is second. Most of us are organized our meals. Leave them, we leave the protein last. Simply switching it around makes a big difference. And then to hear the dietician say, it's one of the most effective ways to control the spikes in glucose was so validating. So like, oh my God, I've been communicating that forever. And it's cool that you can see this on the device data that backs it up. Yeah, she's like, if you just see protein first and then go on to your other stuff, she's like, we see way less of a response.

And you know, those spikes in glucose and then those drops, you get those cravings, you get those energy crashes, all the all the things that lead to behaviors that make you overeat or eat foods that maybe aren't so beneficial. So simply just, you look at your dish and you go, okay, I'm supposed to have 30 grams of protein for every meal, eat that, and then move on to the next stuff. And then what you'll find is you just, you just, not so much less. You end up leaving some of the potatoes, you end up leaving some of the chips versus the other way around. I know, right? Eat the chips, the potatoes and things first, then you leave some of your meat.

The most valuable stuff that you could be consuming on. It's such a simple, like another one is like, don't drink while you eat. People are like, what's wrong with having fluid? In my stomach. And it's like, it's not, I'm not aerovedic medicine guy, so I'm not trying to say like it balances out this. Because I know aerovedic medicine says that.

That's not the reason. It's because when you don't drink, you slow down. You get the chew your food. You get to just wash it down. You just chew it, you just chew it, and then just cram it down, like I, I've been guilty of plenty of time. It sounds silly, but I swore to God these little things,

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The first and the most important stuff. I had a high moment last night, right? So I'm cleaning house. And you know, these are my, these moments I have sometimes, and I've got the TV on and watching playoffs and stuff and This commercial comes up I'm doing dishes and I just had this moment And I when I have these moments I wish I had you guys here so we could kind of have this style That's why I'm bringing it to the the podcast because I didn't have you guys there to have it And it's like is this is me being high right now or like has has anybody else thought about this? Like, so.

I'll tell you if it's what that's what it is. Okay, so tell me that. I'll be in the middle of you. I just, I find it really interesting that just a few years ago, like most people didn't know what cryptocurrency was and there's still obviously a tremendous amount of skepticism around it and like, is it going to be adopted or is it going to replace cat?

Like, where is it going to end up? What is going to be like, there's so much questions still around it yet I am bombarded with advertising around crypto more than anything else I've ever been bombarded advertising I mean there has to be a hundred not hundreds maybe billions of dollars right now I know for sure there's single company spending hundreds of millions of advertising, like crypto.com. Are you talking being retargeted on your phone from like the interactions you have online?

Are you talking about on TV? Boom. I can't get away, I can't escape it from social media. Now what are the ads? Are they like by this coin? They're everything. So like it's less coin and more like crypto.com, you see coin base, you see. Oh, that's what it's these companies and more like crypto.com, you see coin base.

Oh, that's what it's these companies that do the trading. It's all a story. Yeah, it would see other FTM or FTM. I forget, there's a handful of these like really popping up. But yeah, that too, I mean, everything, I cannot, a day has not gone by where I haven't been hit on social. I haven't been hit on YouTube. I haven't been hit on YouTube, I haven't been hit on TV with crypto,

it'll come to you. And it makes me go like, are we just getting conditioned? Like to accept this and this is where it's going. Somebody's paying a lot of money for this. And like, and who's profiting off of all of that? If it's still something that's come in this gray area and it's not fully accepted, like. It's got to be the fees that these companies get

from allowing you to buy and sell their coins or being on their right. My brain goes, okay, if someone, so I read an article that crypto.com has a campaign running right now of $100 million in commercials for the next few months, $100 million in commercials. So what's the ROI on that? It's got to be more than 100 million otherwise, it would be better. So is that what it is? It's like, we're convincing people so much,

there's so much money to be made in crypto right now that if we can just get them in our wallet, making transactions and we're making our little fees of the transactions, we can get back that under the 2x, 3x. That's got to be that. What do you think, Doug? I don't know, I think they're making a lot of dollars for selling crypto

Funny that's what I think is hilarious about all this yeah, that is funny and ironic at the same time right Yeah, it's not like they're getting paid back to have your dollars so you can have crypto. Did you hear it warm Buffett said about Bitcoin? No, he goes yeah, I know he does I know he doesn't mess with it No, there was a quote he said I wouldn't buy all the Bitcoin in the world for 25 bucks. Whoa. And he goes, it doesn't do anything. It doesn't do anything. It doesn't do anything for you. Can't do anything with it. I wouldn't buy it for it. So he's just basically saying it's a super speculative thing that is. Rick Cross just had a video that would viral like the other day.

He's always calling out all the people that like the crypto billionaires and stuff like that. Talking shit. He's walking around as mansion the crypto billionaires and stuff like that, talking shit, he's walking around as mansion, showing us ceiling off and stuff like that. Yeah, he's like, where are you all at? Yeah, it's all like in the visual, or the virtual world. Yeah, that's what he's talking shit, basically. Yeah, yeah.

Dude, a bunch of meta-versus billionaires. Ridiculous mansion, like all in your meta-verse. Metaverse. Hey, speaking of commercials, didn't Amazon just get in trouble? Because what's the service Alexa, is Alexa with Amazon? Yeah, yeah. That Alexa's listening to you.

Oh, I saw that. It's coming out, we already knew. Targeting you with ads. Oh, 100% they've been doing, I guarantee for years they've been doing that and just somebody now is like, oh, look at this. Well, we talked about this a long time ago and I talked, I made the case of like, ah, dude, I really care. You know what I'm saying so they're they're getting better at like they already know I'm searching this I'm talking about it. Well, that's what you know what you don't know. I see that's the freaking tinfoil hat side of you

No, it's not what is it cuz who the fuck are you that they're like actually collecting other information? They really care well hold on your your Okay, to the people that are the current, okay. To the people that are currently, to these people, your data is currency. Thank you. So they'll sell whatever happens you have. Listen, no, it's not to infllil, they're literally selling your habits to the company.

Yes, you're okay. Yeah, yeah, it's all about getting your money. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Or influencing your vote. Look, if Google is listening to you and Google is influenced by said, I don't know, politician or whatever policy They can say let's target this person with these articles these ads these

Keywords to continue to radicalize this person to push them. I'm not arguing what they can or can't do with that type of information That's a lot of money and power in that What I'm what I'm arguing is what I think they're really, what they really care about, what they're really doing, which is getting money from you, which is buying more so they can sell it to other people for advertising purposes and those things. And that's like, that to me is like, whatever. Yeah, well, you see that too,

and based on your interests, like how much better they've gotten with that. Yeah, it's like literally, like, oh, I would buy that. I was like, wow, this is getting crazy. Yes. I don't care about that. I care about, wow, this is getting crazy. Yes. I don't care about that. I care about what I just said, which is, well, that's because it's easy because it's effective.

They can effectively target you with articles and through the process of these articles, they can radicalize you and push you in a particular direction or cause a lot of fear and get you to react and act in particular ways. And if they're listening to you or watching your habits, it's not hard. It's not hard for them to be like, oh, Adam, let's keep peppering him with these little articles

about how everything that isn't mainstream is a conspiracy theory and they all wear 10-foot-hats for a day. Didn't they just do a study on that? That the internet isn't feeding us by some information like we think it is. I just want to see you two go algorithm. Yes.

Well, did you see that? I didn't read it. Damn it. I wish I would have read it now because I just it came in and remember it though. Yeah. I do remember just getting hit in my feet like just recently. Maybe it's always skeptical. I'm the guy that's always like.

I mean, yeah. I mean, but they've already like that one organization that marketing firm like I mean they busted them for literally trying to sway People that were somewhat moderate and in the middle to to tip them over to vote a specific Dude listen, okay, it's been proven listen after September 11th We passed these these bills that allowed for the widespread spying of Everyday American so they could go through your emails, they could watch you, they could read you all under the pretense of this

for national security. Everybody's like, I got nothing to hide, I don't care. They're not gonna do it unless they think they need to, whatever, before you need a warrant to do this, with these bills, they need it. Well, you know what just came out? It just came out that they've been spying, on billions and billions and billions of emails

and text messages and electronic communication between Americans, regular Americans just came out that they've definitely been collecting it and spying. Now what's the danger of that? Well, let's say Justin writes a post and it goes viral. And all of a sudden he's very influential and they're like, holy shit, we gotta shut this guy down. Yeah, all they got to do now is if they want pass records all they got Just go through all his old shit that he's done and it's of course

I think all these yeah exactly all of a sudden this new information about so and so that they don't want to get You know, there's very vocal now against whatever like you know a policy or something that's out there It's like all of a so now you get this dirt that just appears, too, and speaking to that, the rovers way thing got leaked. Oh, it's a Supreme Court? How crazy is that? That's scary, man.

That's scary. It makes, who has that happened? How did that even go? No, no, full memos have never been leaked. So the Supreme Court is supposed to be non-political. Now, I know that sounds funny, because whenever they get a new justice gets appointed, it's this huge deal or whatever,

but they're elected for life, specifically because the role of the Supreme Court is to defend liberty, is to defend the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. And often that's unpopular. And so what you don't want is you don't want justices who get elected every four years because then it's popular opinion

We know how bad politicians are with that kind of stuff if the popular opinion goes this way Well, that's what we're gonna do and if justice is just supposed to be solid Constitution. This is why it was designed that way right not saying they're perfect But that's the way it was designed leaking out a memo before a vote or anything else opens the door for some scary stuff Yeah, they can be intimidated. Like if you're a juror, you're never having before.

If you're a juror on a big case, you're kept anonymous for a reason. Like if you're on a, let's say you're on a case for the FBI is cracking down on organized crime. And you're a juror. You don't want people to know who you are. Because if the mafia knows,

oh, you're gonna be one of the jurors. They could fuck with you or the justice, intimidate you and they have in the past when they found out, right? Leaks like this are not supposed to happen. Now, of course, it conveniently happened before midterms. So we know that this is obviously people don't see and can read between the lines of that. It's pretty sad. Yeah. So I don't care where your position is on. Now, what is your position that it is connected to midterms? So explain your ration behind that. Well, nothing unifies the left like abortion.

It's true. It's just, it's one of the things that, and right now they're in shambles. They're getting hammered by the right. The polls are showing they're going to get slaughtered. So getting hammered by the right, the poles are showing they're going to get slaughtered. So it's conveniently coming up that, oh abortion rights are going to get, potentially get overturned by the Supreme Court. That's a great way to unify the left. So I think it's probably coming from that direction. Some people make the arguments coming

from the right, which I don't see what the rationale is there, but they try to make the case. But I mean, of course, it happened before. All this crazy stuff always happens right before, you know, months before elections. So now, if the memo, if the memo, what happened, what the memo says happens and the Supreme Court does overturn Roe versus Way, what that does is it leaves it back to the States. So the way the Constitution is supposed to work is it defines what the federal government can do.

Anything that it doesn't specifically define for the federal government can be left to the states. So the states then, unless the states, you know, infringe on a bill of rights, right? The states can do all kinds of stuff. So if a state wants to have socialized medicine, they can have fully socialized medicine. If they want to ban cars, they can ban, I mean, they can do it, but the federal government is supposed to follow just the constitution. So that that's the rationale for that. So really what it would change is it would just, you would have to

go in and get your state then to change the current policy for it to really impact. And the truth is, many states make it almost impossible to get an abortion. Some states have one clinic in the whole state. Sorry. And the whole state is in some states. Yeah, so, but it's kind of like this wedge issue. Yeah.

You know, honestly, whether you stand on that, it's really what's crazy. It's got leaked. Yeah. Who the hell is doing this? It's a pretty large heat. You know, it's just, I don't know, man. Yeah. Who the hell was doing this? The party. You know, it's just, I don't know, man, it's just so frustrating because like around election season you just see this, this increase in, in tactics now to like really just throw a bomb in the mix to get more dissension, more division amongst everybody.

So it's a really push him in the direction. Yeah, the bar keeps getting raised for this. It's coming more and more effective than it ever has before too. Yeah, they're finding new tactics I've never seen before. Well, you can move a large portion of people so much faster left or right than you ever could before. And so I think that the people that are behind this, that are doing these things have figured that out.

And so I think it's only the beginning of this of seeing more and more crazy. You get data analytics, like human behavior, like they've mastered, like human psychology through all these algorithms. It's pretty crazy. You don't want the Supreme Court to get hyperpolitical. You don't. You don't want that. That's the one branch of government that's not, and I know it's of course,

there's political to an extent, right? But you don't want it to be hyperpolitical. You don't want Supreme Court justices to feel pressure or threatened before making their decisions. They're the ones that uphold liberty and oftentimes it's unpopular. Now forget this abortion case. This one, I guess you can,

I've heard arguments for both sides, but they've ruled on things that were unpopular and they did it because it preserved liberty. Now, years later, we look back and go, that was the right decision. But if they were like, if they followed popular vote, my gosh, we would be in a bad position. We would not be good. So that's the part that for me, that's a little scary. It's very alarming. Yeah, let's be honest. Like it's, yeah it's yeah again to because culture changes all the time and to have like a solid kind of like foundational System in place like we got to maintain that as much as possible

I would you would think there would only be a Handful of people that even have the ability to leak something. That's what I'm trying I think whoever did it they need to be to the full extent of the law punished. That is a big deal. Yeah, and that's the big deal. That's national security to some extent. Well, I think that I feel like that's so protected and so private that there can only be,

you can, there's only got to be so many people on the list that even have the ability to leak that, right? You know, think so, shouldn't be that hard to investigate and get to the bottom of, how did this happen? Yeah, but you know what's the problem is, they'll find out after the damage has been done, right? After they get whatever they want politically or after, whatever, then they'll be like,

oh, you know, two years later, we found out who did it and then who cares now. But the bar keeps getting raised, man. It's really crazy. Speaking of this kind of stuff regulation stuff I read a study at Harvard that looked at the effects. Okay, so have you guys ever seen you guys who's been to Europe? Have you been Europe? You have right? Have you ever been? Yeah, okay. You ever seen what they have on their cigarette packs? The warning. I mean, I know what they're called in England. No, not the name of it.

The warning. I mean, I know what they're called in England. No, not the name of it. No, I know. It caught me by surprise too when I was in New York. Yeah, I was asking me to bum one of them. I'm just like, excuse me, sir. Yeah. You want to fight?

No. So you want the warning on it? Yeah, so here we have a warning. Yeah. But in Europe, they have a picture on the cigarette of like messed up teeth or like someone dying from cancer to try to dissuade people from buying cigarettes, right? Well, there's been talks about doing this on soda. So you'll buy a soda and there'll be a picture of like

messed up teeth or like diabetes or whatever. And Harvard did a study and found that it actually worked. Obviously, nobody wants a black hand. It's all reports. It's messed up as found that it actually worked. Obviously, nobody wants to buy a can. It's all reports. That's the best teeth on it, whatever. They said that it works, that, oh, it does work and it does just wait people from buying sugar drinks. What do you guys think about something?

I mean, I'm a health person, so the less soda people drink, the better. I don't know if I like forcing companies to do that. I don't think it'll fix the problem. I think that people will just move to something else and who knows. Yeah, I don't know. I remember when they talked about the,

did they ever enforce that? Remember the tax? No, where you could put candy. Oh, yeah. They were trying to, they were trying to say that they can't have the, the, Yeah, and they have it at the height for children.

Like it's not even made for adults. You're not gonna say you got a bend over to get chocolate. Yeah, no, it's literally even made for adults. You're not gonna say you got to bend over to get chocolate. Yeah, no, it's literally for your two to, you know, six year old kid who's in line next to you that's right in their eyeballs, it's not yours. And so the idea that they weren't allowed to do that anymore, like I don't know if that ever passed

or if some cities or states started doing it. Yeah, I don't know if anybody did that. You know what I mean? It's kind of like that to me, right? So it's kind of, like, am I really for that, against that, do I really think that's effective? Do I, if it's one more thing that is just going to, you know, persuade you in a better decision, health wise,

I tend to be pro that. I mean, it's not, you're not telling the accident all that you're just stumbling across like sugar. Yeah. Oh, look at it. So that is, are you looking for it? I actually think there's a case for limiting or banning advertising to kids.

I think that they're just actually a case for that because they're not adults. When it comes to adults though, I know that if you take soda away from people because of the ugly whatever pictures that the market and people will just find a way to get something else. So then what'll happen is they'll be like,

well, if it's 100% fruit juice, then it's okay, right? Which is just about the same. There'll be a whole new way to market around it. I think it'll just create another genre of organic. That's probably what would really happen from it. I don't know, but it temporarily, if it brings the wear-testing idea. Because you start doing it to beer.

You can make it. You might sleep with this chick if you're in the beer, bro. Oh, real swamp thing. Yeah. Oh, don't do that. Cautionary tail, huh? Whatever. I mean, if it gets, if it gets people who are completely oblivious

to the potential negative effects of sugar and like them to go like, is that really, that could that can't happen? Can that question? I don't even think it'll do that. I think it just grosses you out. Nobody wants to drink. Imagine I'm drinking a can, I'm drinking all the pop right now,

which is not bad for you. But imagine if I bought this and there's just like picture of like gross ass tea, I'm like, I don't wanna drink that. Yeah, you think it's like that? No, I think it's more like what I think. I think two people, I mean like you said that I've seen those packets of cigarette,

but it's, I think there's more. Look at that dude. Look at the picture of like a like a toe That's that's diabetic. See and to me. I feel like that could that really happen for me drinking these I just think it's gross nobody wants to hold that can and drink that Public I mean you're not wrong either with it. I mean I don't know. I'm a little conflicted I could see like it It's sort of deterring at least maybe like it pulses a lot. It definitely flies right in the face of how

drinks those types of drinks are advertised. They advertise like it's so cool. Yeah. How cool are you with a fucking nasty ass toe on the side of your mouth? You don't say like they definitely flies right in the face of like how they are. Well, that by foot. Yeah, when they start doing that to all foods, you know, I mean, you buy a bag of chips. I mean, those types of drinks though, they start, they're marketing to children right away.

I mean, when you look at a TV, those commercials are geared towards. That's why I agree with that. I think if it's kids programming and to kids, I agree with that. Yeah, but where's the line there? Like what's, what, what, what? It's team.

Okay, so then what type of shows and what type of commercials are you talking about that's like 90% of what they already do I know I mean it's not it's not when you look at mountain if you were watched like a mountain do or a Pepsi commercial today It's like targeting you guys. No, it's not You guys don't even know the hip-hop guys. They're using like it's not for you. It's for the 16 year old 13 year old Yeah, yes So it's not for you anyways. So they're already getting, trying to get kids, and they're using the cool factor.

So to me, this is kind of like the, all right, you're gonna use the cool factor. We're gonna make a hell of uncle. Yeah, we're gonna get a hell of a cool one. Yeah, you think you're cool, you're raffer that you like that drinks Mountain Dew, but you may have a toe that looks like this from it. Oh, shit.

I mean, I think it would work for soda, but I don't think it would work for obesity. I mean, people would drink less soda, and go on to some meltdowns. It's not gonna change behaviors. You know, unless you put it on, you know what you, okay, here's, you wanna know what would work.

Put pictures like that on all foods. People just eat less. You know what I'm saying? Every food has a gross picture. Oh, I don't wanna eat this. Then you'll see it'll work. Otherwise it ain't gonna work, dude. I mean, it brings it brings it brings that don't come in. It brings a little bit more awareness around, I think, that stuff that has been solely marketed to us from early on. It's like, it's just cool. It's all positive. Yeah. Pepsi and Mountain Dew for as long as I think I might

actually, I mean, a little experiment of it might be interesting because you do all you see is positive. And people do need to know like it's not all positive. Yeah, if this is a pattern that you're repeating all the time of behavior that you're owning, like there's consequences to that. I think that we've all lost sight of consequences. Yeah, no, I mean, I remember when I was a kid,

I went to Italy and my uncle's smoke or whatever, and I looked at the, like, what the hell is on your cigarette? So a picture of teeth were rotting and stuff. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how well it's worked. Everybody still smokes in here. Remember that smoke commercial, whereas the person had like a hole in their trachea

and they're like smoking and like, blue and, I was like, oh my God, that one like freaked me out. You know what? The anti-smoking, here's one of the few times where this type of regulation actually worked. The anti-smoking campaign of making smoking look gross was very effective. Very effective.

It actually smoking, well, you know, part of the reason why that because it is fucking gross. It is, it's coming from somebody who went through a phase of doing it. Listen, your fingers are smelling like shit. You know why? I know we say that, but do you know how long cigarettes were considered cool?

They smelled the same. Doug's generation movie had it, you know, the most dangerous smoke. You were cool. If you smoked a cigarette, you had the cigarette, you were a cool guy with your freaking muscle car or whatever. I totally see Doug, like rolled in his sleeve. With the leather jacket. Yes, there.

For sure. There's a photo out there. Yeah, there is. There's a photo out there. Doug, this is gonna be a biker again. I don't know if you guys need it. It was 10 speed. Yeah.

Yeah. But it changed because all of a sudden it became gross. This is why kids use vapes now. Yeah, because they're like, I guess so. You see the anti-vacumershields that are coming out now too. Yeah, I actually just saw one of those last night. Your life up in smoke. Yeah, I know.

Some sleep, but like, no, dude, you ever see the guys with those big ass vape things? They always have ponytails for some reason. It looks like a walk man. You know, like a smoke in a walk man. It's weird. Like it's some weird, some weird, the memes around that are hell of good.

I don't know. Just chimney smoking it. Yeah, strange. I gotta tell you something about one of our sponsors. I did not know that they did some clinical trials on, so Caldera, right? That's the face here in that. That's one of my favorite sponsors.

Listen, I never used anything on my face ever because my skin's just perfect, naturally. No, that's not why, because I just don't do anything. But then I used that caldera, we talk about this all time. It balances out my skin, it's really nice, so I use it all time.

And I had no idea that they have some clinical trials. I'm gonna show you some of the stuff that they said. Apparently, it's just as good as we experience for a lot of people. So they did some... I think that's why it does so. What, remember, we've openly talked about like how surprised you guys were when you're like,

when I told you first about the brand, like, hey, I really wanted, I like it so much, I wanna do it. And we're like, well, we'll see how the audience receives it. The reason why it does so well is because everybody returns. So it's clinically proven, this is a third party clinical trial.

So it's an actual study. It's clinically proven, this is a third party clinical trial. So it's an actual study. It's clinically proven to work on normal dry and oily skin. So this is why Justin and I can both use this. We have very different skin, both sides of the spectrum. But it's still works. So 96% of the people in the trial reported healthier looking skin, 91% smoother looking skin, 91% less dryness, 89% improved radiance and luminosity, 85% more even skin tone, 87% improved the appearance

of fine lines and wrinkles. That's like, that's almost 9 out of 10 at everybody in the trial. Yeah. Notice those positive things.. I noticed it right away. I mean, the minute I put it on, I can see the difference. That's beautiful. Yeah. Anytime I'm in elevation, it's like a go-to. Oh, I do.

It's like, do I dry out so fast? Yeah, heading to Trucky Arena. I actually have left it at the houses up there just because of that. Because I'm like, so many times I went up there and I'd forgot it and I was pissed. And then I was like, well, my hands and my fingers like crack and that's when it'm like, so many times I went up there and I'd forgot it and I was pissed and then I was like, well my hands and my fingers like crack and that's when it's like real bad for me. So like I just putting that on

my hands, even on my face, dude, makes a humongous. You ever put a beard? Not as much. No, I like that beard. Yeah, it was funny. So when I was in Utah and I was at the gym asking event, one of the, I was like trying to get Everett, he was in the back and I saw I was talking to like one of his teammates and I'm like, can you go get Everett for me? And so Everett comes back and he's like, his description of me, it was pretty hilarious. He's like, oh, what? Yeah, because he told, he's like, oh no, there's this guy asking for you, Everett. He's, you know, some buff guy with a tiny beard. And I was like, oh, I'm so calling you that. Dude, I was like, I'm a tiny beard guy.

I was like, a slight, you know, like I felt like, oh my, I'm so funny. Tiny beard. You know, I can grow big beard. I just, I want it too. I'm like, I'm like ready to go zizi top after that comment, dude. It really got to me. It stuck in my head.

I'm so funny to me. I'm so funny. I'm so funny. I'm so funny. Tiny beer in that big shop. Tiny beer. She starts with like the company. It cuts me. It cuts me to pieces.

Oh, we've been new to A beer. We were doing for some new dickheads, dude. Well, hey, that's gonna stick to it. That's gonna stick, dude. That's gonna stick, dude. Oh, man. We're tiny beard from Noah. Oh, man.

I'm so glad you showed that. If you were a pirate, I'm tiny beard. I'm tiny beard. It's tiny beard. It makes me, you know what it makes me think? It makes me think of like, it's like. So, I'm a tiny beard. It's tiny beard. It makes me think it makes me think it's like every I got tiny mustache and like a little like. Can I call it a flavor saver or whatever?

Yeah, it's just a, it drips it. Just a little bit. That's so funny. You got good facial hair. Yeah dude, I like it lined up and everything. It's getting any longer and I'm just not gonna get action. So that's where I'm at. Yeah, wife doesn't like it longer. Yeah, dude, she's gonna like all that. Jessica likes my stuff. Jessica's getting any longer, and I'm just not gonna get action. So that's where I'm at. Yeah, wife doesn't like it longer.

Yeah, dude, she's gonna like all that. Jessica likes my- Just got likes my little longer, but I look old. I look like an old, I got too many grades, dude. I'm like, all right, I'm not ready. Yeah, my grades are really serious. You're not gonna want me. I think I'm gonna talk to Vic about it.

Vic guys tell me she likes it, but I'm like, my hair stylist before, she used to clip it out. So she used to- Your grades? Yeah, where Vic's like, nah, she used to clip it out. So she used to go, you're grace. Yeah. Where Vick's like, no, leave it in, it looks good. And I'm like, oh my.

You're at like five, 10 years at least. I'm very seasoned. You guys ever have a buddy that some dudes just, so Jessica, there's genes in her family. I think it's from her dad's side because her dad's side is proven. They don't grow a lot of body hair. Now, if you're a girl, like Jessica's like a dolphin, like she's got no hair, like she's

a girl barely any hair in her arms and legs and so for her, it's amazing. But if you're a guy, it's kind of weird, right? I don't know why I love that comparison. A dolphin? Cause they're like smooth, you know? I know you just hear the cackling immediately in my head. I don't know that's a good analogy. What else would I say? I don't know. That's a good analogy. What else would I say?

I don't know if that's really smooth and sexy. Dolphins, I don't think she's gonna like that one. Dolphins are hot. No, she's still there. I know, I don't like to do my wife's not having body hair. We'll ask her how good you are describing her. No, no, I got trouble once, dude. I know I can say it.

Just once. More than once. But anyway, so her brother can't really grow an official air at all. How old is he? Yeah. What do you mean? He's my age or a little younger? Oh, he's a grown man.

Oh, okay. He's always been baby. He's just an adult. He took a long time for my man beard to grow. He wasn't that way when I was like, even in my early 20s, I couldn't grow like a full on. Yeah, you're relatively funny. Yeah, no, I'm'm not you're relatively hairless. Yeah, I'm not very dolphin Quite dolphins status More like walrus

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I remember when that was, yeah, he's long-signed to hell, long-signed burns. But part of the reason was that I couldn't grow a full beard, I couldn't connect all the way down to my chin, you know what I'm saying? So, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up, I grew up connect all the way down to my chin, you know what I'm saying? So I grew a facial hair real young, but then I stopped. So like out of my cousins, I got, you know, right away I got hairy and all that stuff. First, and so I thought it was cool. And then I paused and then they just got monkey style.

Like they just got hairy, dude. And now I'm happy about that. I don't want the shoulder hair and the back hair. No, you don't want any of that. Speaking of which, I was with my son yesterday, my 18-month-old rotside playing, and it was hot, so I took my shirt off or whatever. And he's got this thing for boobs,

so I'm actually gonna put it out there. He doesn't breastfeed anymore, but he will find a way to pat on Jessica's boobs or rub his face in there or squeeze. And she's trying that to like shame him to make it feel weird, but at the same time we crack up because you'll be playing with her and then you'll pause and he'll like, tata tata.

You know, and he'll like put his face on it and stuff like that. All of us are cracking up. We're trying that to make him feel. He's 50 years old, he'll still be doing that. He's like, he's got this thing, dude. You know what I'm like, wow, bro, we got to work on this because it's gonna become a thing.

Oh, Katrina has to, Katrina wears a sports bra at night because he comes in the bed a lot right now, especially with how sick he is, how often. So he's like this too. Yeah, because of that. Because he will, in the middle of the night, he'll find him, grab him, pull on him, you know, everything. And she's like, I can't sleep. She goes, I was, because I was, he's in the other day, like, he'll find them, grab him, pull on him, everything. And she's like, I can't sleep.

She goes, so I, because I was teasing her the other day, like we were laying in bed, it was just her and I, he wasn't in bed yet, but he knew he was sick and that he would probably end up in our bed. And I go, slide my hands up, or should I'm like, we have to wear a sports bra. Jack, cock, block me right now. Oh.

That's a thing. She's like, no, she goes, I know my son's gonna be in the bed later on. I just, instead of having to do it, I should go to the middle of the night all the time. So I just put it on early. Well, so I was out with him outside, took my shirt off, and I'm holding it right.

So I'm kind of holding him like this, and he's like, and he looks down at my chest. And I could tell he's trying to figure out like why it's hairy. And then he's kind of like touching it a little bit. And he's kind of got this confused look, and I'm like trying not to crack up. I'm watching. And then he goes down of like touching it a little bit. And he's kind of got this confused look. And I'm like trying not to crack up. I'm watching. And then he goes down with his head.

It's different. He goes down with his head. I'm like, no, I'm not even gonna wait to see what you're gonna do, bro. I'm like, I pushed him out. Like don't do that. Just because like, don't make a feel where I'm like, I'm not gonna wait to see what you're gonna do on Dad's chest.

So Max traumatized him. So Max doesn't do that, but every time, I mean, I picked him up this morning. As soon as I got out of the shower, he woke up, he ran around the corner. He's in a good mood, was feeling better. And he ran straight to me. And I picked him up. And like clockwork, always, if I have my shirt off, he automatically puts one hand on my nipple. And he's talking to me. Yeah. And he's he's playing with my nipple like almost so almost subconsciously. Like he's he's not looking down at even doing it. He's just doing it while I'm holding him

and we're talking or looking at other things and one hand is always fondling my fucking chest. He's, yeah, I do. I mean, I give him something to do. He's just done it forever and so I've a lot. And if I lay in bed, if we're all three in bed and which is rare, he comes to my side or he gets cuttle and he's always next to his mom. But if he makes his way with me and obviously I sleep naked, he comes to my side or he gets cuttle. He's always next to his mom.

But if he makes his way around me and obviously I sleep naked, for sure, he's doing that. That's part of why I can't sleep next to him because I can't sleep. Yeah, it'll irritate me all night long, have it filled up, do that. That's so funny to me. Yeah, so I think it's very instinctual. It is because that's there, because she breastfed the baby, so he's like, there's got to be a comfort thing with it. Of course. That's why you get it even as a male. Now she told me he was going to come down to smell, because that know she breastfed the baby so he's like, you know, there's got to be a comfort thing with it Of course, that's why you get it even as a male now

She told me he was gonna come down to smell because that's what he does where he goes down He goes like that and I'm like still It smells different He'll be surprised. Oh You know, it's like Bob at all. It's me, but he's speaking of sports bras because you brought that up. You guys like get your ladies their their mothers day gifts. Oh, I know like for I mean, Viori is always an easy one for me, dude. I end up getting her like some leggings.

They had ones with like this pocket for so she can put her phone in. Yeah. Have you seen their halo? It's a halo. We have a right. Oh, performance skirt. Have you seen this? It's a workout skirt for women have a, oh, performance skirt. Have you seen this?

It's a workout skirt for women. So it looks amazing. Yeah. And then they have this long sleeve feather tee. So like Jessica likes to wear kind of baggy, but not heavy, long sleeve, like, not sweaters, but like a t-shirt, but long sleeve, but comfortable.

And she'll steal my shit all the time. So I'm always like, where's my shirt? And I look at her and my, oh, thanks. This is very comfortable and amazing. So that's something that's something that's... I'm so guilty of not being the one that buys her a viewer's stuff all the time. She buys it most of the time herself

and or Jerry does for me. So Mother's Day is already taking care of what we've got. Did you actually see, you see in a viewer, though? Did you see that they're now doing gift cards? Digital, you can get on, you can buy. Oh, you might see even easier than she can pick up her own thing. Cause I do guessing for me is.

Yeah, but gift cards are 50, 50 dude. Well, it depends on who you're with. Like some people are, It's a little thought in there. I, yeah, but I feel like there, I feel like there's like a 50, and a guaranteed, there's 50% of people listening right now

and they're like, hell, I would much rather my husband or whatever. Just get a like gift card. She wants me to like take my time and pick out. Now, Katrina likes me too, because I think she appreciates my like I have style and I can help pick out something really good. So I think she likes that part of me.

And so I do try and like when we go, I try and be the one to shop and pick things up. I don't with the Oriolot times. There are partners, I have Jerry who just handles all that stuff so it's nice on all the deal that. So she's okay with that, but she does like that. But I know there is half the audience, there's definitely women listening that are like,

I would much rather have- You're either gonna give card or just all the skirts that they have. I can kill you that. Yeah, that'd be my idea. Yeah, so I don't know, I'll ask Katrina, actually I've never asked her if she would be offended if I gave her a gift card for her birthday.

I know Jessica. I like doing stuff. I know Jessica doesn't like it because whenever I say, we should get a gift card for someone else, she's opposed. So we're buying a gift for someone. I'm like, hey, my mom or my dad, they like this place is getting a gift card. She's like, there's no thought that goes into that.

That's weak. You gotta think about something. You gotta be thoughtful. And she's a, there's no thought that goes into that. That's, that's weak. You gotta think about something. You gotta be thoughtful. And she's a very good gift giver. I am not. I am like a, I love giving gifts, but when I'm supposed to give a gift, it's, I feel like I just can't pick.

So I'm just like, money. We give, we give tons of gift cards because there's so many people on her family and we celebrate every frickin' thing. So it's just like, dude, if we had, if I had to think about a creative gift for every single family, every cousin, nephew, uncle, aunt, brother, sister, and lot like, oh my God, it would be so. You want to know what's crazy with kids now? Is that they don't want cash? They want gift cards because they don't go show crypto.

No, crypto.com. Hey, he just got my daughter. She's 12, she knows she heard Bitcoin, right? She has no idea what it is. I can literally buy her a fake coin, right? Bitcoin on it. I got you Bitcoin on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome.

No, kids don't want cash. They want gift cards because they don't shop at the store. They shop online. So we gave cash to a kid for their birthday, and they were like, they told their mom, mom, can I trade this in for, can you give me a gift card? Oh, that's interesting. Because what do they do with the cash?

They don't go to the store. They want to buy everything on the internet. How wild, right? Yeah, how is, if anyone followed up, I think I shared an article with not that long ago about the malls and stuff like that, it's like shopping in person, like just continuing to plummet or because of the lockdown

and then now people going back out, people just wanting to be out, or anyone following that market. I don't know if that's changed, or like plateaued, or whatever, but I definitely saw a little bit of it. So it is going up, but what I don't know, is it going up compared to what it was during the pandemic? Oh, it was a pretty pandemic or boom.

Right, so I mean, I think that's what matters is like, is it going up in comparison to being dead, not existing, like that's not that impressive, or is it going up relative to to being dead and not existed? Like, that's not that impressive. Or is it going up relative to what it was pre-pandemic? That would be interesting to me to see if it's still, if they're still alive. I did see a poll though, like when we had this discussion a while back about, like, going to the movie theaters and speculating, that was totally going to die because

streaming services were all bringing in online. Would you see that the majority, it was like, it was a pretty high majority percentage of people that preferred to go in person now to theaters. Yeah, and like in, I guess movie ticket sales have definitely increased. So I cannot relate to that. I, yeah, but okay, I definitely can. I think that it's, I think eventually it's gonna decline

because of streaming and a lot of stuff. I think still the main purchaser of tickets are moms and dads our generation we grew up with movie theaters. You think so? There's a thing. Do you think kids are gonna go buy? It's expensive, but it's that's all relative where kids go. No, no, yes, it's all right You know, it was like For our generation was expensive to our parents generation. They used to pay a dollar. No, no It was no way it matches it matches the cost of

One it was one dollar for them. It was $10 for us. It's $20 for them. Maybe take us more 10 bucks when we were kids You see where when we were kids. Yes, they were like seven bucks six bucks for mat and a's or special shit We got the $10 pretty quick from yes It was not much the special Okay, okay, you're arguing over like let's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did not want to stay at my house for that long. I'm over it. Well, my point of arguing with you, I was not that, is more so that kids are the ones that are going. Like the young generation,

like if I was probably in high school still, that would be a place of socializing. Well, you know what they do now. Like I'm a grumpy old man, where I don't want to fucking hear someone chewing their food. That's why I don't. Oh, I like going with you. That's the reason why it will go.

If I go, I'm going bodies, I'm going to fuck out. Well, so there's certain things though. So I just text my best friends, okay, that I want us to try, and we'll see if we do, to make it to see the top gun release. Yeah.

Because that's a classic, the new one looks sick. And wait, they've had that like filmed for a couple years now. Okay, that's a pretty straight line there, so. Yeah, but I wish we could see it in comparison to Conflation or whatever. What? Because then you can see

if you read your argument. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a pretty simple. If it was a dollar for our parents, it was 10 for us and it's 20 for the kids right now. It's pretty relevant. No, because if you look at like the cost of higher education versus houses versus work for you,

are you semantics, bro? No, that's how you do the count. That's how you do the count that's how you do it it's pretty it's not as it what it the do you think it's a deterrent whatever price point it is now for like no I'm saying that that's what it's so expensive that it's fucking minimum wages ridiculous right a kid who's all is all by the line the kid who is in line tearing the tickets let you in

we used to get paid four dollars now he's getting paid twenty bucks an hour. Doug, how much were tickets when you were watching, what do they call, talkies? Were they talkies when they were? Charlie Kaplan. Those are good times back then. Oh, it was a big blow.

Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap. popcorn was $0.15. He's saying there was a person. There's a guy in the juggle before a showtime. No, an organ player. Do you remember the cheapest movie ticket you ever paid for? There was a person there's a guy in the juggle before no organ player Remember the cheapest movie ticket you ever paid for? You know probably three dollars, but it was like a matinee type thing. Yeah, yeah

When Star Wars was a big deal when that first came out right I was watching in fact the other day I was watching a thing on that and there were line I don't see this anymore lines around the blocks from you don't really see that anymore do you? Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I think like Star Wars all the Harry Potter like that that bet you top gun will get that like oh yeah, oh yeah, yes All right, we'll play side bet right now that movie's gonna What's that movie's gonna say Tom Cruise Hey, you know, it just came out speaking of of movies, you know what's on Netflix right now, only on Netflix?

What? The Rambo Last Blood. So hold on, hold on. Yeah, dude. Hold on. That's one right before Last Blit. Yeah, no. Actually, okay, all the Rambo sucked,

except for the first one. First Blood was actually pretty damn good movie. It was a good movie, truly. Then they got weird. But this last one one obviously come on. We're not resurrected. Bro, Sylvester Sloan's in his 70s. The dude is jacked. And the premise, I only watched like the first 30 minutes. His niece

goes to Mexico to find her dad and then she gets kidnapped. Now I know what's going to happen. He's going to go down and kill everybody and kick everyone's ass. Yeah. So I'm pumped about it. So I can't wait to finish watching the rest. I didn't even know that this is new. It's just's just yes. It's a lot. It's a last blood. It's the last one. I mean, there's no way you can make another one, right? Yeah. Let's see what you do after that. Bro, look how jacked he is though. We can do a zombie one. Is he 70? He's held his subestress alone. He's got to be. He's got to be over 70. He's over 70. He's got. He's awesome. Yeah, he is still kicking. The drugs are amazing. Yeah. Well, okay. Come on. The guy also. Wow. 75.

Five, bro. Wow. You have got. Yeah. I want to be jacked in 70. You have got to see. I know. Is 82. Oh, he's not. Yeah. It says right there. Yeah. 82. Arnold is 74. What does Chuck look like? Come on. Did you know? Did you know Chuck Norris doesn't have a chin under his beard? Just another fist. He's too crazy. He's so many Chuck. You saw that immediately. He's so many. I miss the Chuck. Is it, let's see a current picture of Chuck. Yeah, I don't know. This might be as current as they get. That's not Chuck Norris. Well, according to this to this it is No, it's not that ball guy

That's not that's not Texas. It was total gin still rocking I love the infomercials. Did you guys okay you guys watch the what was it return of the dragon? We're Bruce Lee fights Chuck Norris at the end. Yeah, see that what a great fight scene, bro What a great that's where you like it's a lot of him current huh? D-road for that right now. Yeah, yeah, I've seen like people dub over like different music to it And it's just not when he grabs a test Aaron pull it off As is Keras whisper over it. It was awkward. I love it. Yeah, that was a great scene doesn't say huh It doesn't but he looks pretty good for his age

Listen, I know so best of us alone killing it. I know so so best of alone is on test I know he's been taking growth hormone forever. Yeah fine, but the guys been consistently training his ass off for oh yeah disrespect yeah he's been We're just coming was just me funny. I mean I so as I'm watching it with helped I would all use all that shit when I get down there for sure yeah it was always I get a Ford all that stuff all use all that to I mean, as long as it doesn't kill you, I was watching it with, well, kind of watching with Jessica.

She was on her phone because she's a, they put her in the bowl and, but I'm like, babe, I'm like, he's 75. She's like, are you gonna look like that when you're saying, if I hope so. Look how good Chuck looks at 81. Yeah. Yeah, it looks pretty good.

Yeah. Interesting. But anyway, I'll tell you guys about the movie. I know you're not gonna watch it, so I'll tell you guys all about it. I'm trying to, okay. After I finish watching, I mean, I'm really, I'll tell you guys about the movie. I know you're not gonna watch it. So I'll tell you guys all about it. I'm gonna have to finish watching. I mean, I'm really I'm really curious about the going back to the movie theater argument because I do think that, you know, this streaming stuff that we have going on is really it's a big disruptor. Yeah. So it's going to change

the landscape. To Justin's point, I think there will always be people that will want to go. I don't think it'll ever go away. I think that it's a different experience. Yeah, and exactly. I think the era of the, just the, remember when we used to go to movies, it was just a theater, some popcorn, that's it.

I think that's not gonna exist. I think now you go. I was just, I just dropped my phone off. Yeah, but okay, so imagine this for a second. They have like good food now, they have drinks. Some of them, they've been in an am. Imagine this, like, think of this, what are. They have like good food now. They have drinks. Some of them, they would imagine this. So like, think of this, what are some of the top things when you, because you're the person I'm most curious about

because you're different than we are in this argument. Like, what are the some of the top things that is unique to going to the movies versus watching it? Because you feed off of everybody else, right? So that's, I knew you were gonna say, group flow. Yeah, I knew you were gonna say it like a vampire. Okay, we're not far from you sitting down in your living room with your VR and okay, I hear your experience. It's actually pretty cool. I experience it with my best friend

watching the NBA basketball game court side and he's not like people. I think it's, no. I met a couple dudes too. Then I had random stressors. You met dudes on your VR? In the virtual world. Yes. Is that how they sold you the glasses? Meet dudes. No.

I'm the internet. Put up these VR glasses. You know what I mean? Okay, so that I knew Justin would go that way, that there is this kind of like, oh, it's like you are still with other people in the community feel and like, they laugh in the theater, it enhances the laughter

in the, well, why do you like to go to sports events live? Well, I do certain ones, not all of them. Okay, yeah. But again, I guess it's just a different experience. Like I get really into like the surround music and you can obviously orchestrate this engineer in your house, like if you like created a, well that's what you're a room.

Yeah, but look, but I'm like you Justin, it's the, it's the anticipation. It's the driving to the theater. It's brand new. And it's like a lot of people don't know what to expect. And I like, Yes, you're around real people. Oh my God, we're about to go into theater.

You got your popcorn, you sit down, there's people around you, everybody's, I get it. So you're a ritual. Yeah, I get it. I love the movies. I'm the same way. I totally get it. I said like a bunch of old guys All that stuff We sound like old guys because we want to go movies. He doesn't sound like old guy because he's angry

Oh, I'm not okay. I don't like am I anti movies? I haven't been like three years part of that obviously is because of the pandemic You know, so but I and I plan to go back I was sure a shit not gonna sit in a movie theater with a fucking mask on, that's like, that's, oh yeah. Real easy decision for me already. Well, I was in there when everybody's mad, I just, you know, with the lights out. Yeah, come on, I've done worse things, I've done worse things with the lights out in the movie theater. We take my mask off. Let's be honest, we've seen all the holes in the popcorn.

We know what you're up to, yeah. Maybe that's a popcorn. Yeah, I'll go, hey, I'm such an old trick. I'll go with you guys to watch Top Gun 2, even though that movie sucks. I'll go with you guys. It's not gonna suck. Yeah, let's go.

No, I would go to the movies. And more of my point is not that I think the theaters will ever go away. But just I'm curious to like how they're gonna recreate the things that people really like that. And I do think that I don't think it'll be the same. I think all guys like us will appreciate the experience, the drive there.

Other people think that's the hassle sound. I know, I know that. The things that you're saying are like, oh, the anticipation, the weight, the drive, like young generation, you're going like, what the fuck is she saying right now? That's all a shit I hate about going to the movies, right? So you got to understand that it's going to a shit I hate about going to the movie. So you got to understand

that it's going to get disrupted and it's going to look radically different in 10 or 15 years. So my mind's more on like I wonder how they're going to appeal though to somebody who kind of agrees more with Justin and I'm like that what are the things that he really loves about the experience of going there and I think that they're going to create that and this is what VR is going to do is you're gonna be able to get that kind of vibe. I mean, I wouldn't have believed it until I started using Oculus and really seeing the potential there like that.

So early. So early. It's so early. Whoa, this is a totally immersive experience. So I can see them, yeah, getting close to that kind of feel anyway. Like what I try and when I think of VR right now, and think about the potential that it has, I try and remind myself of the first computer class I took in middle school, and the screens were fucking green.

Yeah, or in the trails. Yeah, and that, and yeah, and we're gonna try to say mind blowing cool or what about that? And to think where we are now, you died of discomfort. With computers and to think that we're at that level right now with VR. So just think about where that- I don't like to think about that,

because I feel like going to leave their house, we're all gonna be just at home plugged in and that's it. I mean, I've been saying that's where we're going. We're going, we're half the people are gonna just accept staying in home like 90% of the time and just that's gonna help, it's gonna be. But I mean, I figure the people that want to just do that, and they don't wanna be out,

I guess those are the people I don't wanna hang out with anyways. So, it's, so less traffic for me. So, it'd be a virtual zombie. Hey, real quick, if you eat a high protein diet, you might be having some digestive issues, or maybe you just wanna assimilate every amino acid, so you can build bigger, stronger muscles. One of the best ways to do this is to take high quality

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First question is from Jack McInnery. Incredibly stubborn bicep, tricep growth, despite all other muscle groups improving. Should I target volume or intensity and are giant sets counterproductive or overworking? Look, all of those can help, but here's where a lot of people make mistakes when they're trying to bring up a lagging body part. Let's say I'm going to use an Arbor training number. I'm just going to make up a number. Let's say total amount of sets you do for the whole week for your whole body is 70.

Let's say you do 70 sets of all the exercises for your whole body and you've been training that way for a while. And then people are like, I want to bring up my glutes or I want to bring up my quads or I want to bring up my biceps and triceps. They just add sets on top of that. That's not the best strategy because not only, yes, it's important to add more potential volume or intensity for a particular body part,

even change the workout for particular body part. You typically also have to offset the total volume from the rest of the body, because most of us train kind of in this optimal range if you're doing everything right and just throwing more volume on top sometimes takes the volume up to high and then you actually don't benefit as much. So some of the best gains I ever saw in weak body parts was in increasing the volume on those body parts, but then also bringing it back on my stronger body parts to allow

my body to have more resources and just less damage overall so we can focus on those like. I mean, we're obviously we're totally speculating on this, but what do you think is what's most common with someone like this? With someone who struggles to build their arms. Obviously, if you're not interacting with it, right? And you got somebody who understands volume and intensity, which already tells me that they're more advanced lifter, right? So you're not we're not talking to somebody who's never and intensity, which already tells me that they're more advanced

lifter, right? So you're not, we're not talking to somebody who's never lifted before, right? So it's not somebody who like doesn't even know what to do, or exercise-wise. What would you say is most common when you see somebody who struggles to put size on their arms right there? I mean, I don't know, full range of motion can be it, technique, form. I think that maybe they're doing too much volume overall. Somebody wants to bring up a lagging body part tends to do a lot of volume for lots of

other things. What about a heart gainer in general, just somebody who's actually like, struggles on the nutritional side to eat. Yeah. It gets put enough size. I would say that. I would say that, but it says all of the other muscle groups are improving. So if he's improving everywhere else except there, that's what makes me think,

back off on the volume on some other stuff, and then add it to these weaker body parts. Versus nothing is improving, but that's body part I wanna bring up to. I can see the full range of motion on some level, just if you're in a sort of a pattern of doing the same, types of exercises to try and isolate, and you're not seeing any kind of growth

improvement, you're not really giving it, some kind of novel stimulus to interrupt that. Or it's even like reconnect with it. I think maybe you haven't spent enough time really getting that mind muscle connection to then be able to get maximize that recruitment potential. I like that point too, because when he doesn't say I bring up in here too,

and we did a video on YouTube a long time ago. It's one of the more viral one old old viral ones that we did where we talked about the elbow positioning when it comes to the bison. That was a big exercise election. That was like a big aha moment for me when in my training career is when I piece that together figure that out the the importance of manipulating that. I didn't even notice that I tended to do a lot of the similar type exercises, even though they were different exercises, because I was using a different tool a rope, a triangle, a straight bar, like the same angle.

Yeah, same angle, same position, I was stimulating the muscle the same way, even though I thought, because it was a different machine, a different handle, I thought I was doing something really thought, because it was a different machine, a different handle, I thought I was doing something really unique, but it really wasn't. It was very similar to the stuff I always do, and then simply by just making sure that,

okay, every workout when I train my arms, I'm gonna make sure I target from this elbow position, from this elbow position, and this elbow position. And now, also, I saw huge gains in arms. Yeah, so to be more specific, it would be like a bicep or tricep exercise where the elbows are by your body and front of your body, and then maybe overhead, right?

So different angle positions that changes the stimulus. I can see that. The other thing I can see too is that you'll almost never find a workout program where when you're training multiple body parts where you do arms first. It's usually chest shoulders, triceps, right? Back, biceps, or upper body, and it always starts with chest or back, and it goes to shoulders and the arms.

If everything's improving, and it's the biceps and triceps that you're having issues bringing up, put it in the forefront. There's nothing wrong with hitting your biceps before your back. Now for most people, that's not the case. For most people, you want to go back first. But not if you're saying everything else is improving.

Yeah, because the muscle groups that you hit first tend to get the most strength gains and the most muscle gains studies will show this. So do that. Do the thing is really good, full range of motion, slow control, focus on the muscle, we all know that. And then he mentioned volume, or this person mentioned volume and intensity, didn't

much mention frequency. In my experience, one of the most effective things to do to bring up a lagging body part is to train it more often, not necessarily with more volume even, just more often. I've even taken clients with the same volume and split it up. So instead of hitting their, let's say, their biceps twice a week for a total of, let's say, I don't know, 16 sets to do it three days a week and do five sets or six sets on each workout. So same volume just more frequent.

I agree with that. The only challenge with that is managing the intensity aspect because I think that... Yeah, you can't train super hard. Because I remember as a young kid, that was the first way I started to attack the arms. I was like, oh, I'm gonna train arms like every time I come in. But I was training it with this like crazy intensity

every time. So I was constantly stuck in this recovery trap. Right. So you have to understand that I, 100% agree that, you know, hitting it more frequently, three, four times a week is totally fine if it's a stubborn, lagging body part. Hitting it first.

But, and hitting it first. But then you've got to also understand that you can't hammer the shit out of it. You know, if you're doing it five days a week like that, you've got to back off. The hitting it first makes a big difference. There was a point there where I, because my upper legs respond really well to exercise. One of the areas in my body responds well. And I always would start with quads, right? So I would do my squats and whatever, and then I'd go to,

you know, my other quad, and then I'd go hamstrings at the end. And at one point, I really wanted to bring up my hamstrings. And all I did was hit my hamstrings first. Now before that, I would just add volume to my hamstring work. But by the end of my workout, I'm more fatigued and, you know, it's a little more challenging.

Then I did a whole stint. I did like a whole eight month period where I started my workout with hamstrings, and then I moved on to the other stress, and I saw huge gains in my hamstrings. So that working that muscle group first, I think that makes the thing. I think that was great advice.

I think that was, I've done that multiple times with different muscle groups that I was thought was lagging, in comparison to everything else. Totally. And I've always seen great improvement, just simply by saying, hey, if this is,

it's even like down to my calves, like which seems so ridiculous to start your workout. But for like, but like two years consistently, I did that. Two years consistently, every workout, very first thing I did was go over to the calves and did calves first. That was the best my calves ever looked,

was doing that. Now the second part is about giant sets, which a giant set typically refers to three or more exercises strung together. So a super set is two, giant set is typically three. So it would be like barbell curl, hammer curl, you know, preacher curl or something like that, right? Giant sets can be effective,

but only as a novel stimulus. I've never really seen giant sets done long-term to be effective because it tends to be more endurance because now you're doing like three exercises or more together and it starts to become more endurance and straight-off fish. You're a fish in that, yeah, doing a lot of reps. Yeah, but if it's like totally novel

and you're like, I'm gonna do this for like three weeks, anytime you change your workouts that much, you'll get like a really good, typically a good response, typically a good response in a short period of time, but I don't see it being a long-term approach. The problem that I would have with the giant sets is also with taking the advice of increasing the frequencies,

yet it's an area where you have to be careful. If you're gonna increase the frequency of training the arms, and then you also are doing giant sets, like the likelihood that you're probably over-training or over-applying intensity is probably there. So choose one or the other and test that and then tease it out. Next question is from Brit Spears Love's Shoes Collection.

Whoa, that's like full of sand base right here. Britney Spears and Shuklai, they wanted to get picked for it. Does the effectiveness of changing phases for hypertrophy say anything about the truth behind muscle confusion? Does the effect of, let me, what the fact is? So the fact that you change phases for growth, does that say anything about the fact that muscle confusion that there's truth behind it? Well, that's where it comes from originally. Yeah. The problem is the muscle confusion part is it changes up every workout. Like they're always changing, the exercise is like there's, my problem is it doesn't really allow you to get super good

at an efficient and a lot of the lifts when you're changing it all the time. Yeah, the worst myths in, anywhere actually, in any space, but definitely the health and fitness space, the worst myths have some truth in them. So they start with some truth in them. Yeah. So they start with some truth and then they go crazy. And then get bastardized. That's what happens.

It was, it was, the idea of muscle confusion of originally, theoretically, it's correct. It's like, don't do the same exact thing all the time forever. Yeah. Right. So, but it got bastardized and then it turned into this thing where it's just like, you know, now people are, we're preaching, and I'm, by the way, guilty of being one of these people. That was, you know, preaching like, we got to confuse the muscle every workout. So it's like you're doing some different to just shaking a ball and then, yeah, the workout

is thinking that that's a great approach to growth. And it's so, so quickly, yeah. But yeah, 100% think that's where this came from is exactly that. That it does, there's tremendous benefit from you sticking to a phase for a short period of time. After you've ran that phase for a short period of time, i.e. three to five weeks or so, then you move into another phase, and that's what promotes building muscle. Now, there's a lot of exercises that you don't really gain the max value of that exercise until you've done it for a while and gotten good at it. These tend to be the complex movement.

So I deadlifts and squats. When you first do them, you get stronger fastest because you get used to the movement, but really the gains start to happen when you start to get good at the exercise, which means you have to practice them. You have to practice them a lot. Often, right? So you want to core lifts and you wanna do them often and you wanna do them long term, what you change up are the reps or the tempo. So I'm still squatting, but I'm squatting

out the slower tempo or my reps are going up a little bit or I'm throwing in like a superset type of deal. Other exercises, like single joint exercises, you can switch up a lot faster. Like I switch up bicep and try to sit exercises all the time. But there's core things that I don't switch up very often. I tend to do an overhead press almost every time I do shoulders, right? I tend to do some kind of a row for back or, you know,

some along those lines. So changing things up is important, but what you don't want to do is think that that is, that's it, and I just change up all the time because then you never get good at anything and you never derive the real benefit. You're always in this phase of like trying to learn something in which case you don't really get the maximum. Well, it also depends on I think your goal though, right? Because I think if you are because some one of the things I do remember about that phase of my life when I was going through this muscle confusion, right? Or I used to pride myself on saying like no workout ever looked the same.

So I was very fit, right? So I had great rotational strength, I had good mobility. You also had a lot of experience. Yeah, yeah, I had a lot of stuff going for me. What I wasn't doing was really progressing very much. I wasn't building a lot more muscle. I wasn't getting way stronger. I was just staying really fit

because I was doing a lot of different things all the time. In condition, real strength. Yes, I was like, you know, if we always talk about the, like, building an avatar in a video game and I just had a, in the middle. Yeah, I was in the middle all of everything.

Really good, you know, pretty good at everything like that and it kept me overall fit. So there is, there's some value to that if you've, if you're, where you. You know, pretty good at everything like that. And it kept me overall. So there is, there's some value to that. If you've, if you're, it's where you want to talk, obviously we get questions of people that are trying to make gains, improve, change body fat composition. If you're trying to make progress and moves, this is where this stuff really starts to matter because that's what's going, the things that you're talking about are what's going to make the body change in a direction at a faster, more efficient,

right? Where if there's somebody who has reached this place of, you know, attained a look or their fitness that they want to be at, and they want to just kind of maintain that fit physique, I think training that way isn't as bad as sometimes we make it sound. Yeah, I think that's why we all lean on like the actual strength coaching type of programming because it's the law of specificity is still there. Like, in terms of like how your body is going to adapt in a specific direction based on the stimulus you're providing. So you can only get good at something the more, you know, frequently you practice it. However, you know, the body adapts. And so what we try to do is sort of, you know, frequently you practice it. However, you know, the body

adapts. And so what we try to do is sort of, you know, interrupt that process. But if you still want to get good at that very specific goal, you bring it right back. So it's like, it's still heavy in the rotation. But knowing, you know, where the body tends to kind of drift off in plateau, like we can say ahead of that. Now we can keep progressing. Yeah. And some people will point to like advanced bodybuilders and be like, oh my god, they do a different workout every single time. Well, when you're really advanced, you and you've been working out for a long time, you can connect and do exercises pretty well the first or second time, depending on the exercise,

right? But bodybuilders have been working out for a long time. They can go to any chess machine, any back machine lots of shoulder machines or Exercises and they can feel it and get it to work out when you're not advanced There's the learning you have to go and learn the lift and also complex lifts aren't like that I've taken bodybuilders with lots of experience who never deadlift had them deadlift And it's like a five-week process of getting them good at it before it's to add weight slower than that. If you want an example, this is such a bad jab right here, but I just just came across

my feet. So that's the one reason why I'm free on it up. It goes to shame. It's not meant to be. It's such a great example what you're talking about right now is and you brought it up. Mary said, is it feel like the bodybuilding space is deadlifting squatting way more since we started talking about it five years ago? What's his name? Mr. Classic Olympia. What's his name? Jeremy Boudia. like the bodybuilding space is deadlifting squatting way more since we started talking about it five years ago.

And I told his name, Mr. Classic Olympia, what's his name? Jeremy Boudilla. Oh, no, he started deadlifting, huh? Yeah, he's been dead, he's been dead for a while now, but when you watch him, it's rough. It's rough, it's rough. Or never deadlifted before. You know, and that's the thing, you never deadlift like that.

You see him squatting barefoot now, you see him trying to deadlift and stuff like that. It takes a while, you know, especially when you haven't, you haven't done it in a long time. It's, and even for someone that advanced, who has that great mind, you put them on back and chest machines and like, oh, he'll hit it right away.

No, and that's to take anything from the guy when it comes to sculpting a physique and how impressive all the other things that he can do, but it's such a great example of someone who's that experienced in lifting and how complex a deadlift or a squat can be that person is an animal. He's arguably one of the best connected people to his muscles than more people,

than the 99.9% of the population, yet still taking that dude years, okay, because he's now, I've been watching him now for like last year or two that he's been consistently doing it. And it's still ain't pretty. So it takes a while to practice that too. That's true. And in other words, he still is not even reaching

the max benefits from that dead left. And when he gets really good at that movement, he's gonna start to, and I already see his back changing from the progression of him starting to do that already. No, I was referring to what's his name, Sebum. He's, he always deadlift. That's what I'm saying. I feel like he's got a beautiful deadlift in the wall.

Yeah, I think lifters, like, he's been doing it forever. He has. And I think lifters like him are making other people in the space. Sure. Yeah, yeah. For a second, I like the example you were saying of like the, the learning coming. Oh, no, no, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're talking about someone who's super advanced. He's really good at lifting. Yeah, yeah. Next question is from Kamui X. Is it okay to train to failure if I'm only focusing on a muscle group once a week, for example, arm day? You know, failure training is very interesting and I tend to recommend most people avoid it, but I will say this. In a short period of time, it can produce some pretty fast muscle gains, but you got to program it properly and nobody programs failure training properly. Everybody throws it in into the workouts on a regular basis. The results from failure training fade real quick and you hit this fatigue from it. I'll tell you what, I can do nine sets for back with good intensity and it doesn't

frimey like one all-out set to failure. I know this because I've been experimenting with failure training and programming with failure training and I've come I'm coming to some interesting conclusions but for the average lifter for the most part avoiding it's probably a good idea. You know what that is? Because there's so many variables that come into play when you push to that limit. Yes, because you're pushing those outer boundaries

that it could have some extra benefits, but it also requires a lot of other things have to be in place. Like for example, like if my sleep is really off or my diet is really off, and then I fuckin' failure train that workout, the likelihood that I'm gonna reap the max benefits from that failure training because of those little

variables is very minimal. But I could go into the gym and just slightly progressively overload my body or challenge myself a little bit and not and go and leave two in the tank and progress my body still. Even on not the most optimal sleep and maybe not the most optimal diet, it requires a more dialed in person. Not to mention there's probably the genetic variance of some people's bodies that can just

handle being punished like that and other people that are very sensitive to that. So I think why this is such a debated thing or this hot topic because there's so many, and why we lean so much in the opposite direction of why? Because you can build the most amazing physique, of the most competitive physique, and never train to failure. I will make that argument.

Well, the studies compare it side to side, and they show that. They show that it does know. So if you can do it without it, and you're risking more by playing with it, it's like, I will say though, if you program it right, it can be very interesting. I use it as a thing, you can see great result initially.

And I think that what it does is it draws people that are most likely to abuse it, because they're, they get excited by the initial results, they think that this is like, you know, it's applied for mental discipline, it's applied for their sports training, it's like most like hard work at work, like all that same button, they've been hitting for everything,

and then it works initially, but now it's not working for them, but maybe I gotta go harder. So I just see it such a great point. It just goes in that. It attracts, it does attract probably the wrong person. Of course. It doesn't attract the person that I was saying

who's got everything all balanced. It has got great sleep, great diet, like not a lot of stress and they've managed all that. And then that person, which ironically, that's the yogi type person who avoids training. That's why we train to failure. They should probably train to failure in their life more often and would reap some massive benefits

from it because they do such a good job of managing all should probably train a failure in their life more often and would reap some massive benefits from it because they do such a good job of managing all the rest of the stresses in their life that adding that into their training routine would probably benefit them big time when it comes to muscle. But it attracts the person that you're talking about. The caffeine junkie, not sleeping very much, running the candle at both ends

and when I hit the workout, fucking crush too. Crushing Gavin. Yeah, it is that people really underestimate how much it taxes the body. I'm telling you, one set of real failure, okay? When I say real failure, like I have to drop, I have to put the bar down on the safeties, okay? A real failure squats.

One set will hammer me more than a nine set decent intensity leg workout, or even 12 set. It takes me way less time. I'm done in 15 minutes, but I am, and I know, because I've had Doug experiment, because I'm figuring out some programming with this and stay tuned, but even Doug will tell me, his 15 minute failure workout, and he's like,

dude, my legs are like, I'm like exhausted. So it taxes the body in a very interesting way. Here's the other thing it does. It's more ripe for injury, it's just this. When you go fatigue, your form goes out the window. If you don't have like perfect technique and you fail, the risk of injury starts to get really high. Much higher.

Yeah, so you really gotta be smart with this kind of training. And I know, and I know I'm pushing against it. I use it, okay, so I'm not somebody who's not, like I just think that, and we don't'm like pushing against it. I use it, okay? So I'm not somebody who's not like, I just think that, and we don't know who this person is, right? So I'm not, this is also hard. Like if I knew who I'm looking at, who I'm talking to, and I know kind of their background,

how they've been lifting, where they're at, and their journey, the advice changes, right? Sure. Like, I definitely, depending on who I'm talking to, I might be like, hey, you know what? Yeah, let's start to play with a little bit of failure training. You've been, we've got all these other things we've dialed in really well.

Let's start dabbling with this a little bit. Let's see what kind of response you get. And then let me hear your feedback. Like I absolutely would do that with clients. But I also had control of that. I knew who I'm talking to. When I'm talking to the general population and knowing the kid I was who would probably

be listening to this podcast and stuff coming into weight training, I'd be better off listening to someone who's telling me, like, you don't need to train to fail. I got better results when I stopped training to fail. So did I. And again, it's because the programming is really tricky with failure. Now I'm starting to realize,

but, and I tell you what, failure's a lot further than you think. Like you do a set of, like I said, squats to failure. You think you're about to fail, and you're like, I got another another rep and then you're like, oh, shit, I got another rep. And I got it. It's, it is nasty. It is grueling. Yeah, but chameras about it to your point to that really hard to keep your core and everything really tight while you have to focus so much on your form and technique when you go to

failure way more than if you don't. And I know what I'm doing. So you get the average person going to failure and more than if you don't. And I know what I'm doing. So you get the average person going to failure and it just goes out the window. Next question is from XDMW08 is bodybuilding healthy. Yeah, I know. Competitive bodybuilding, no. Bodybuilding from a...

Well, bodybuilding from an exercise perspective and diet from a, you know, if you exercise a bodybuilding style, connect to the exercise. Training is a very purge of fears of different conversations. Feel the muscles. If you eat, you know, high protein, and you stay relatively lean, like that kind of bodybuilding lifestyle?

Very healthy. Well, there's a difference between saying, training like a bodybuilder or training like an athlete, then, or like saying those are two separate things, or then training that they're saying like, then body building as the sport or playing a sport. Playing a sport and doing body building are not healthy. So no sport is healthy for the body.

No body building is healthy for the body. Training like an athlete sometimes is very healthy for you. Training like a body builder is very healthy for you. Training like a body builder, it's very healthy for you sometimes. So that context matters here. And so how this question is being afraid, like is body building healthy? I'm assuming they're asking like the sport of it. Just like it's like a full body building out

and say it's soccer healthy for you. And it's not, it's football healthy for you. It's not. So it's the same thing when it comes to that. But is training athletically to have skills like a soccer player or like, yes, at times, that could be extremely healthy for you. So the same thing works here with bodybuilding, but the actual sport of bodybuilding, and I know some people like to argue it's not or whatever, okay, the actual event of bodybuilding. Like like training like that, you know, pre-contest,

diet, on stage. Yeah, there's a reason why they call us walking dead men when we get on that, because you push your body to such an extreme with depriving yourself of calorie and nutrients and water and fucking with sodium and, you know, and that low of a body fat percentage that is not healthy. It's not healthy to keep that. So how can a sport be, how can that thing be healthy if the place that you get rewarded for is not a healthy place to stay? No, but if you live the lifestyle where you're like, yeah, I like to go to the gym and I like to train for hypertrophy and feel the muscles and totally different. You had a good pump and do multiple angles and different

exercise. And I like to eat five meals a day and I protein and I keep myself relatively lean, I like to look sculpted. That's longevity. It has a longevity approach when it comes to string training, low risk of injury because you're focused on bodybuilding rather than how much weight you can lift. There's definitely longevity in that.

The diet part is amazing. Competitive body, one of the most unhealthy sports. Let's be real. Like you're forcing your body to build as much muscles possible by any means necessary, including, you know, antibiotics and all that stuff. Then you starve yourself and you get on a stay and they die early.

We're seeing this all the time. So yeah, like some of the disciplines that go into it, I think you can turn that into healthy practices, especially the awareness around like how food affects your body, how you can optimize recovery, what you can do to really move the needle in terms of muscle development and really connecting and being able to flex and have control over your body.

So I mean, there's elements of it in there that I think that you can learn that you can apply for longevity, but in terms of the actual overall bodybuilding is just not just like sports, just like you can say you can pull from your experience in football and talk all day long about how much that is enhanced your life and made you a healthier, better version of yourself. So absolutely, there are aspects of the sport of football. There are aspects of the sport of bodybuilding that can be very hot. I mean, it's crazy every now and then I do get a question where someone asks me, like, do you regret bodybuilding?

Oh my God, I don't regret it. It was an amazing experience doing it. It taught me so much about myself. It's made me a better coach. It's made me a better communicator around nutrition and physiology. Like there's so many things that I learned. And even being that late,

I was late into my fitness career, starting into bodybuilding. And I still learned a tremendous amount by going through it. So I think there's a lot of great positive things about it. So I'm not shaming it, but it's not the support of it. It's not the majority of my, I mean, a lot of my training in nutrition was borrowed from bodybuilding principles personally. And I've got great, you know, it feels great, but no, I wouldn't

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