Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1865: Why Most Fitness in the Media is BS

Episode Date: July 25, 2022

Description: In this episode Sal, Adam & Justin speak with Nathaniel Nolan who recently made news "as the man who got ripped running like a dog." The CRAZY story behind how Nathaniel went viral. (2:1...3) His background in the fitness space and how he got into animal flow. (6:43) Has this had an impact on his business? (9:57) Why big media companies are NOT looking out for the people they are trying to exploit. (11:36) His WHY into becoming a personal trainer. (14:26) Why most of the fitness media is simply GARBAGE! (17:27) The purpose behind modulating intensity. (22:09) Highlighting why the consumer MUST take headlines with a grain of salt. (26:23) The importance of mobility, trigger, and focus sessions within the MAPS Programs. (31:11) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: RGB Bundle or MAPS Suspension 50% off! **Promo code JULY50 at checkout** I’m a personal trainer and running like a dog made me crazy ripped New Fitness Craze is Running Like a Dog on All Fours The Most Overlooked Muscle Building Principle – Mind Pump Blog MAPS Prime Webinar MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources Featured Guest Nathaniel Nolan (@xpmovement)  TikTok

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, please only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Alright, we got an interesting episode for you today. Now you've probably heard us talk about on the show how most of the information that's put out there in the mainstream in regards to fitness and health is crap.
Starting point is 00:00:30 But boy, we still get surprised, almost daily. And today, we bring you a story that highlights just how much stuff they make up. So you might have heard about the guy who runs like a dog and how he got ripped doing it. Well, anyway, there's much more to the story. And definitely don't believe the media. It's full of crap.
Starting point is 00:00:48 So we think you're gonna enjoy this episode. We got them on the show and we talked to them all about it. By the way, his name is Nathaniel Nolan and you can find him on TikTok at XP Movement and just real quick, he knows we he's talking about. He's actually a great trainer, but you'll hear that in this episode. Also, we're meeting a huge sale this month, actually, turning out to be one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:01:09 sales we've ever run on some of our workout programs. So we have a bundle called the RGB Bundle. Very popular. It includes maps and a ballack, maps aesthetic, and maps performance. The three most popular workout programs, you run them in order, you've got yourself nine months of expert exercise programming and they're actually designed to be run back to back that way. But we also threw in a few free stuff, kettlebell for aesthetics, the sexy athlete modification
Starting point is 00:01:33 and the butt builder blueprint. Anyway, this bundle is an additional 50% off right now. So that's part of the sale. The other part of the sale is we've put an individual maps program on sale. So if you don't want to bundle, you just want to try one math program, we put maps suspension on 50% off sale. Maps suspension is a suspension trainer program. All you need is a suspension trainer and you can train and build muscle for your entire
Starting point is 00:01:56 body. Here's what you got to do if you want to try either one and get the discount. Go to mapsfitinistproducts.com and then the code for the 50% off discount is July 50 that's July 5-0 no space to get the 50% off. All right, here comes a show Nathaniel, so I got to tell you how I kind of heard about you And I'd love to for you to kind of explain the whole deal with it But we have a group text that we do with each other and Adam sends a link and it's a picture of you and you're kind of like running, but on your hands and feet and he goes, this is really crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:32 We should probably talk to this guy. I'm like, what's going on here? What's the deal with it? I would love for you to explain how you got kind of this this viral notoriety around you running like a dog. And in the articles, it would say things like, it solves a lot of your pain issues and it was a good workout.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Obviously, it looks kind of strange. So tell us a little bit about that and how that happened. Yeah, so like first off, running like a dog is not any part of what I do. I don't have any sort of animal inspirations or influences or anything like that. In fact, up until those tabloid articles came out, that wasn't even a comparison that I really buddy made. So I kind of like put that into the cultural zeitge before that nobody made that comparison really. And then I did an interview for an article and then it kind of they they just put that spin on it and then after that
Starting point is 00:03:28 Wow, man, I never does that strange Reference to me was really referencing those those headlines so There's really no dog relation and there's really not and it's not really about running There's really no dog relation and there's really not and it's not really about running On all fours at all My all fours practice is just a way to and to intuitively modulate intensity using all four limbs So it can be you know can be running on a bear crawl, but it can also be You know anything where I'm using my arms or my legs to modulate the intensity for the other set of limbs.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So it's developing better coordination and a better ability to be able to use my body for modulating intensity for the most part. Okay, so this is really strange. Okay, so. You just talk about crawling patterns. Yeah, okay, so you sound like you're a trainer, you know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So I'd like for you to go in your background, but before that, I want to comment on how strange this is. So because the article is literally talk all about running like a dog, and it's a picture of you on your hands and feet, and it looks very strange, and you're saying that's like nothing, that has very little or nothing to do with what you teach and what you do.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So literally the media took this, and without, you know, no pun intended, ran with it, and created this narrative to get clicks. Is that, am I being accurate here? Bottom, that's 100% it. So, yeah, they decided to put that spin on it for some reason. I'm really sure why? Because whenever they reached out to me, I was already at, you know, 900 plus thousand followers. My page was already established and anybody that followed
Starting point is 00:05:09 me regularly knew that that's not what my bit is. And so I had a viral video. It had like over 20 million views and it was showing me working on running, right? But that was just like a day. I experiment with all sorts of different types of movement. And that was something that I had sort of played around with a little bit in the past. And I had people kind of requesting it. And so I did that.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But it's not even, I wouldn't even consider it, and it's a very small fraction of what my all-force practice includes. And it's definitely not the defining feature of it. But yeah, they decided that that would be, I guess, a good spin to throw on it. So I was on vacation when those articles came out. And I started getting texts from people like, hey, you're on Daily Mail, you're on TMZ. So I open them up and I'm just like, what the fuck? Like this is insane.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So I was like, who's asking it's kicked right now? But it turned out that that's just what they thought that would sell. So since then, I've been kind of trying to steer the narrative back towards what it was originally which is alleviating pain, building better strength conditioning and mobility and basically developing this this style of training and these principles that allow me to be able to progress my other physical disciplines. So this is this is the reason why I reached out, is because I started to like look you up
Starting point is 00:06:47 and try and find all your other pages, and this is what I was telling the guys. Like I saw the article, I saw the way they were painting the picture, but I said, I bet you this guy's actually a pretty smart trainer and knows what he's doing. We have, we talk about flow, we have flow in our programs and we've, I don't know, I think Justin's practiced animal flow for a while and we've incorporated in some of our training. And so I said, I bet he's
Starting point is 00:07:10 probably a smart educated trainer who's probably doing this a little bit out of his day every day. And they took that narrative and ran with it to try and get the collection to dogman. And so that's actually the reason why I want to talk to you. So go back to the original question, Sal was talking about, give us a little bit of your background on how you got into animal flow and why you started doing that, what type of pain were you having, how did it help it, like I want to know your story more. Yeah, so I've been a trainer for nearly 10 years now and I have several different physical disciplines, a lot of different practices, jujitsu, calisthenics, and I really a big fan of exploring lots of different disciplines, but the problem was that I was having a lot of risk pain and shoulder pain from trying to have
Starting point is 00:08:04 too many disciplines at the same time. And so basically, like one by one, I was starting to kind of give them up. And I realized that the problem was that I was doing too much high intensity work. And I wasn't doing enough to supplement that. So I tried a lot of mobility routines, like every type of program for bulletproofing, and none of them were really working for me. I think that the lifestyle that I was living, I couldn't devote all of my just one or two things.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And so I realized that I needed to change the ratio of the amount of time I was spending on my hands, but it had to be under a lower intensity, otherwise that wasn't going to work. And so I decided to start with planks originally. And so I started with planks and I would do that for maybe like one or two minutes a day. And I realized that the low intensity work was helping to resolve a lot of my wrist pain by basically reeling everything back a whole lot. And then the bear crawl and the all for like walking on all fours, that is just the progression past. Like for me, it was adding in the moving elements. So although that's the title of my series is walking on all fours, that's not really the essence of what an all for my all fours practice is. It's about modulating
Starting point is 00:09:22 intensity because I knew that if I was going to be spending any fixed amount of time on my hands throughout the day, I needed to have some sort of mechanism to modulate that intensity at a moment's notice and to any degree that I needed. So that would be, you know, all the way back to next to no way on my hands. And so I realized that from a barricure composition, you can shift pretty much 100% of your body weight forward into your hands, but you can can shift pretty much 100% of your body weight forward into your hands, but you can also shift pretty much 100% of your body weight back to your feet. And you can decide in that moment how much intensity is appropriate for where you are in that moment.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Nathaniel, you sound extremely reasonable and like you know what you're talking about. And what I'm blown away right now because of how much the media spun that article and creating, now you already had a business that was built. You said you had almost a million followers on social media. Have you taken this, has this hurt or helped your business? Or are you having trouble trying to take it and turn it into something positive
Starting point is 00:10:20 because you're probably getting a lot of attention right now and it's the wrong kind of attention or maybe with the wrong ideas of what you do. Yeah, you know, I would like to spend this into something positive, but to be honest, it hasn't really had a huge impact on what I was already doing. So my page is journal of my daily practice. So I didn't see a big surge in people coming to my page. I also didn't see a lot of like people leaving my page. Everything kind of just held where it was. The amount of growth, basically since I started, I've averaged like growing like 3K a day
Starting point is 00:10:58 on my page. So that didn't really change. I don't think that it had a huge impact on it, especially because all of these articles that are mentioning me and then all of the different media companies that are sort of using this for their follow-up pieces, they're not really tagging my socials too much. So Nathaniel Nolan isn't the same as XP movement, which is my socials and the next BLC, which is my company. So I haven't really seen a big impact in any direction on that other than people reaching out to me like you guys.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Have you, has your attitudes towards media changed at all after this? Did you, like, did you think they were crap before and now you're just like, oh yeah, there it is? Or did this surprise you? And because if this happened to me, I'd be like, oh my God, I don't realize they were that. I knew they were crap before and now you're just like, oh yeah, there it is or did this surprise you and Because if this happened to me, I'd be like, oh my god, I don't realize they were that I knew they were bad, but holy cow, this is ridiculous Yeah, so I was super nervous about it before I Gave the interview originally for that tabloid article and I was like, yeah, no, I know that they could spend this I't know it was going to get spun in this direction just because this is so far off
Starting point is 00:12:06 the bean pad. This is so far. What I do and what I've been compared to and everything. So I had no idea, but I had an idea that they would do whatever they wanted with it. And I know that at the end of the day, it's about the bottom line for them to be shit about me. So, yeah, I don't think I'm any more disillusioned. I maybe like, there's a couple different media sources that I now kind of have beef with,
Starting point is 00:12:35 I guess, personally, but I'm just going to try to let it roll off my back because, you know, I can't really impact what's already happened. I can't take that stuff back in. And like I said, I'm trying to kind of steer the narrative more towards reality. So I'm not going to let it impact me too much. But yeah, I definitely knew that they were big companies are generally not looking out for the people
Starting point is 00:13:03 that they're trying to exploit. No, not at all. You know, you've been in fitness for over 10 years. I mean, if we compare it to fitness media or popular mainstream fitness and health media, I guess it's part of the course because if you've been doing this for 10 years, I'm sure you constantly have to battle just garbage information for people that you're trying to help all the time when it comes to diet and exercise. So I guess it's along the same lines, right?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Right. And so that was my biggest fear was that the wrong message would get out, that misinformation would get out. And I've been kind of struggling with that since I started just because TikTok in general tends to be sort of a tabloid of itself. So things kind of get a little momentum and then it's hard to reign that in. So whenever I started my series,
Starting point is 00:13:55 I was like, I really want people to understand that it's not about doing bear crawl every day. It's about being able to modulate intensity, it's about consistent exposure, it's about these principles that I'm developing, but I also understand that I'm not going to be able to give everybody that same glimpse. So my hope is just that if people have some interest in me, they stick around long enough, they're gonna get the picture. Nathaniel, tell me a little bit more about your journey into becoming a trainer, like take me back,
Starting point is 00:14:30 take what led you down the path to become a personal trainer, what direction did you go education-wise, when did this all come together for you? Yeah, so training was sort of a hobby of mine since I was a kid. I grew up on a street where like no kids, So training was sort of a hobby of mine since I was a kid. I grew up on a street where like no kids.
Starting point is 00:14:48 My grandparents were my only neighbors. So I basically had my body as my first gaming console. I used that to entertain myself, like learning different skills and watching a lot of Dragon Ball Z growing up, so I'm wrapping the shirt right now. And wanting to be able to express myself differently as well as being able to develop in any direction. So I started training earlier, I wrestled in school, and then I started Jiu Jitsu when I was like 20 or 21.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And I was working as a photographer at the time, ended up hating that, and I decided like, okay, I actually really like training, I'm gonna try to pursue that as a career. So I just went ahead and got a certification through ACSM, which when you're getting any sort of sort like that, or even a degree in that field, a lot of times you're learning all the textbook stuff,
Starting point is 00:15:52 but you don't really learn how to do the job until you're doing the job. And so I started working in studios, but I realized that it wasn't a perfect fit for me. There was something missing. I tried to start developing my own training modalities, but also looking a lot to social media influencers for guidance and for inspiration, because there were a lot of people setting this new frontier of being able to try all of these disciplines or try new disciplines
Starting point is 00:16:28 that were kind of outside what you would learn in a textbook or in a classroom setting. So that's whenever I started kind of blending a lot of my disciplines, but it wasn't until I started my all-force practice that I really was able to unify all of them. So that's been pretty recently that I've actually had success blending all of my disciplines in a way that it actually works for me where I can perform pain-free and without feeling overwhelmed. What's your business now? Do you train people personally or is it all online? So before quarantine, I was training people one-on-one in person. And then when I happened, I was like, oh shit,
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'm out of the job. So that's whenever I started doing online training and I found out I actually really enjoyed online coaching and a one-on-one setting. And so now I do kind of a mix of both now that people are able to see each other again. Which one of those tabloids are the worst ones that you said you had some beef? You want to call them out a little bit? Which ones are the ones that spun at the most and just made up the most
Starting point is 00:17:33 crap? New York Post. Oh wow. I don't say. Yeah. I wouldn't say like honestly when I saw them talk to them on TMZ, I was like, oh fuck. But they weren't that bad. It was New York Post was like making up a bunch of puns. And the worst thing was that they were putting a lot of phrases in quotes as if I had said them. And there were things that were like very far from any sentiment that I had ever expressed before.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Like what? Uh, that, like the headline, the headline on, I think it's been repeated on a couple different, a couple different articles, but Indiana trainer says he got crazy rips from running like a, I'm running like a dog. I'm just pulled it up right now. I'm a personal trader and running like a dog made me crazy rip. You know what? You know what's, you know what's,
Starting point is 00:18:26 I would never, don't shit like, so. Awesome, we can click baby. Yeah, I also eat like a dog. You know this, you're a good boy by the way, didn't I? You know what, you know what's, what's wrong? You know what's sad about this is that there's a certain percentage of people that are gonna do this now
Starting point is 00:18:42 because they think it's gonna make them ripped. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Okay. But maybe it'll bring them to my page. Maybe they'll learn a little something in the long run. Hopefully, they don't get hurt in the process. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I think the big lesson here with all of this, because look, I've, look, we've all been in fitness for over well over two decades. So we've been doing this for a long time, and I know a reasonable trainer when I talk to one, within five to 10 minutes, you sound like a very reasonable trainer experienced, like you know what you're talking about. You haven't said a single thing that I would say, oh, that's not right, or I counter that.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Again, like I said, you sound very reasonable. It's so opposite from how you were painted in these tabloids, I think the lesson here is that media just garbage. I feel like I knew that. I feel like I did. You did because you did your research. Yeah, and these guys were like, they saw the tabloid and were like, why are we bringing this guy on?
Starting point is 00:19:33 I said, I bet you he actually knows what the fuck he's doing. I mean, we talk about modulating intensity all the time. In fact, we have what are called trigger sessions, mobility sessions, and we try and teach our audience that, you know, as a trainer, all of us have been trained for over 20 years, and we overapplied intensity for most of our career, thinking that more is better, and teaching people how to do that is so important. So we've built these real low intensity type of exercises very similar to what you're
Starting point is 00:20:02 doing, right? So we have these what are called mobility sessions, which is just body weight movement, a lot of animal flow type stuff that's built into it, or what we call trigger sessions, which are these real light rubber band workouts that are 10 minutes long. And it's really to facilitate recovery and do exactly what you're kind of doing. So I knew that as a trainer, you probably came to the same conclusion that we did that we were over applying intensity and all these different modalities and stuff that we were training both ourselves and clients.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And then later on found out, wow, our results would be accelerated if we actually peeled back and included these other practices. So I kind of knew that. And that's why I wanted to bring you on here to be able to tell your side of the story because I had a feeling that the way this was being promoted wasn't truly how you were incorporated. And I thought, you know what, I think what he's doing is something that I would do. So I'm glad that we had you come on and talk about it and tell
Starting point is 00:20:54 your side because yeah, it definitely didn't come off that way in the tabloids and you do sound like you know what you're doing. Yeah. So is there anything else you'd like to say before we sign off here in the thing that's our audience? Yeah. I mean, I guess if people want to know what I really do, I do voiceover in every single one of my videos. So although it is a journal, it's meant to sort of provide insights for what I'm trying to accomplish in my own practice.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So check out my page, XP Movement on TikTok. And then I also just dropped my Patreon yesterday, so I'm providing some more like inclusive content that's going to be more geared towards coaching instead of just giving people insight into my journals. But yeah, I'm just basically trying to get people geared towards what I'm actually doing instead of what these headlines are kind of portraying me as. Excellent. I appreciate that. Yeah, thanks for clarifying and again I think the big the big lesson here is the media is really full of shit half the time. It's terrible
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah, how they painted it and like I said talking you after five minutes. I'm like, oh my god This is completely completely wrong. So appreciate you coming on man Yeah, no problem. Cool. All right, man. Thanks, Nathaniel. Yeah, nice talking to you, bro. Yeah, good talking to you guys. Part of me's blown away and part of me not surprised. So the part of me that's blown away is because I fell for it. I didn't do what you did.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I didn't go on his page. I didn't read his stuff. I didn't do any research. I just trusted you, obviously, because I do. But the tabloids made me think, oh gosh, it's one of these ridiculous. Here's their gimmicky thing. Yeah, I mean, pretend to pretend to pretend fitness person, whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And I was there, I was kind of there. So to hear him talk, I literally, I have to find it. No, I remember the look you gave me when we got back from vacation, you're like, shame on me, man. You're like, who, okay, Adam, you need to explain to me who this guy is and why we're having him on our show as if it was gonna be this massive waste of time.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And I thought, you know, and I didn't go that deep into his stuff, but I went deep enough to know that it wasn't like this guy was running around. He was spinning at best a half hour, two an hour a day, you know, doing a practice like this. And I thought, uh, how many clients of mine, including myself would benefit from doing animal flow one hour out of their day. I have people bear crawl all the time. It's so funny that they spun that like it's something you pick up at the grocery store with like Batboy and Cheapacabra. Yeah. You know, like that's what the whole thing sounded like that to me.
Starting point is 00:23:14 But yeah, he's just incorporating this in his programming. Just that little amount to be able to strengthen his wrists and solve a problem. And I know Sal wrapped it up, but I want, so now that we're having a little bit of time to discuss it, I do want to talk a little bit about what he kept referring to as modulating intensity for the average person. So they understand what that was.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And I try to explain a little bit by how we use our mobility sessions and trigger sessions. That's really what that is. Well, yeah, I mean, everything he said was very reasonable, right? So intensity refers to how hard something is, I guess to put it in layman's terms. And intensity needs to be appropriate, right? So if it's the right intensity for your body, your body will progress.
Starting point is 00:23:51 If it's too little intensity, you're not going to get any adaptations. There's no reason. And if it's too much intensity, your body can't adapt. It always is worrying about recovering. And that's that's a pitfall that a lot of fitness enthusiasts fall into because we love exercise so much. We have a higher tolerance for hard workouts because it's something that we enjoy. So we tend to overdo things which can cause inflammation and pain and stuff like that. So that's what he's talking about. He was overdoing it and what he had to do
Starting point is 00:24:18 was scale back to get his body to feel better. And moving on on all fours or barricades, it's just one form of movement that can solve certain issues. It's not the movement, it's not the answer. There's a whole, it would be like me saying, there's one exercise that you need to do, and that's it, that's not true, right?
Starting point is 00:24:37 You wanna do a variety of movements. So again, he was totally reasonable. Yeah, this points to the importance of practice too, and getting your body really good at something. And so to be able to modulate intensity allows you to frequently practice, these types of stimulus for what was definitely needed for him with strength and support around his wrists.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And so to be able to do that, it just makes a whole lot of sense to then back off a bit of the intensity. So we're not like overdoing it to where it's setting you back. Well, what totally came to mind for me and this is why, and I'm glad we're here and what I wanted to bring up, but this is what inspired us to create the flow sessions in Maps Hit. As we understood the way people apply hit training, the amount of intensity, we knew we had to modulate that intensity somehow, force our audience to do that. So they're not just doing it, hit, hit, hit all time.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And our flows kind of look like an animal flow. There's designed to do these mobility moves from one to the other without breaking a stride. And it's very similar to doing like a bear crawl or moving on for, and what I love about like the animal flow stuff is is what it does for wrist and ankle mobility, which tend to be areas that people neglect and don't realize that some of their chronic pain they're dealing with is stemming
Starting point is 00:25:52 from one of those two areas. Yeah, I mean in prime pro, so we have these beast positions already established and half of that, you really have to pay attention to the intent and the cues there. What he's talking about with loading your legs and alleviating some of that pressure on the wrists, you have that ability to do that while also still applying pressure. So you can have less pressure, you can apply more pressure, and you can gradually sort
Starting point is 00:26:16 of increase that amount of pressure once your wrists get stronger supported. Yeah, but really, again, I want to keep going back to this. It's like, when we talk to the average person, and we ask them information about diet or exercise, 90 something percent of what comes out of the mouth that they heard or read is not just wrong, it's made up or opposite. This highlights that.
Starting point is 00:26:41 This complex. Because there's a lot of people, I'm telling you right now, that article I guarantee you, there's a chunk of people that are like, I want to know more about this secret way to get ripped, just like when they read about the cabbage juice diet or new fat burning compound found in chocolate showing to accelerate fatwell. Well, not only that, but somebody will take, oh wow, he does the animal flow thing for one hour day, I want to get more ripped so I'll apply even more. Another can be run around like a dog three, four hours a day thinking they're going to get shredded by two. Exactly. This is what we're constantly battling. And
Starting point is 00:27:13 so you know what this highlights to me. It goes right back onto the consumer. Us as consumers, and I'm sorry, when I say, I'm talking about everybody, right? Us as consumers of information, when you're trying to improve your health and fitness, you gotta take it with a grain of salt. You really do and you have to be smart and do your research and don't just take a headline or what they say as truth. You got, and I hate to say this
Starting point is 00:27:35 because I wish you could just go and be like, yes, I trust that, that makes it. That's not at all what they care about. You think the New York Post gave a shit about giving people anything that's helpful. This is just a new angle, it's a new thing. People always respond to some kind of new hacker, new thing that's going to get ripped or lose a bunch of body fat because it just seems so new and novel and it's like, wow, I didn't even think of doing that. It's like
Starting point is 00:27:59 the total, it's totally like a misinformed. Yeah, and you know what? It's interesting. So let's say he didn't have almost a million followers. Let's say he was a new trainer and that came out and let's say he didn't have a lot of integrity. You know what he could do is he'd be like, oh, I'm gonna capitalize on this. I'm gonna write a book on running like a dog and why I put on a dog costume.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I think Lee and I are. Which is perpetually, I think that happens more often than not. So do I. I think a lot of times people are just kind of throwing spaghetti at the wall and I mean, I'm guilty of this when I first started Instagram trying to figure out what works and you know some people get lucky and something goes viral and that's where you get what you get known for and it's tough to not make a business out of that because that's what most your
Starting point is 00:28:38 traffic coming in is wanting to know more about and so I bet you a lot of people that are on social media that have massive followings fall into that exact track. Lucky for him, he had already built a legitimate following from good information so that wins this tably. And you look at it, it didn't even give him any more money or traction really. It's like, it just shows you like, it didn't, but it's a crazy attention.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I had a feeling, I mean, I wanted him, I wish he would have went a little bit more into his Education experience because I felt like He didn't really go deep into that how what led him down this this pathway of like where where the chronic pain come from You know, how did he learn why Modulating intensity was so important like there's a lot of things out and even how he started off with an isometric first and then progressed into playing. Yeah, he started off with it, which was smart, right? He started a way to
Starting point is 00:29:29 modulate it. We talked about that. That's so great about isometrics all the time. It's a great way to increase volume and without increasing too much intensity or doing too much damage to the body. Very safe. Right. Very safe. Very smart way to do that. Then he progressed it into like a flow, which I think was also really smart. So, you know, I don't know if he just hasn't had the opportunity to communicate it the right way to enough people or what, but I could tell that you obviously knew what he was doing by going that direction. Yeah, I think, you know, the old wisdom, the old, like, line, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. That's just true. It just really is. When it comes to fitness and health,
Starting point is 00:30:05 is, that's just true. It just really is. When it comes to fitness and health, if you read like the secret thing that is burns, hell of fat, or do this one exercise, or look at this new diet, this new, it's going to be crap. It's not going to be true. You know, this new compound they found in red wine, if they attach something to a, you know, some kind of a vice, you know, it's probably not good because here's what happens. If I say red wine's got a compound that makes you live longer, all the people that love wine and I love that article and they're gonna wanna keep drinking the red wine, right? All the people that read the article about chocolate,
Starting point is 00:30:33 they're gonna wanna keep doing that. You know, we have to be very careful and I hate to keep hammering this, but it's like there are no short cuts. There's no shortcuts and these media outlets which have so much power. I mean, that New York Post and all these tablets, he went viral, he reached more people
Starting point is 00:30:50 than we can with a podcast or a show. Very quickly, why? Because it's, you know, it's, and again, it's us consuming it, right? We click on it because it looks so crazy and wild. Right. It's a, I don't know, it's a terrible state to be in, but boy, you gotta really pay attention.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And there's no shortcuts. I'm going to do a whole Sasquatch program. We'll see how it goes. Well, I just, I mean, for our audience that has our programs and falls on stuff, I just want to highlight that one of the things I noticed that people tend to do is they skip the mobility, the trigger, the flow sessions in the programming because they think it's like, whatever. I know. And I just want our audience that follows our programs to understand the importance of that when it comes to that.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So if you suffer from chronic pain, you're noticing you're hitting plateaus and you're not doing those sessions that we build in there. This is a perfect example. Here's somebody who on a total different path and the different stuff came to the same conclusion that he was overtraining his body and he needed to pull back one of the way and didn't pull back doesn't it. So I mean stay home and rest and do nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:59 There's things that you can do to facilitate recovery and continue to progress and then also still be moving and burning calories and being healthy. Your body recovers better and it heals better when you move. For the most part, now there's extreme cases where that's not the case, you're really sick or you're really injured, but for the most part,
Starting point is 00:32:17 if you need to speed up your recovery, get your body to adapt a little better, one of the best things you could do is move a little bit. It's just move, move a little bit. Go for a walk, crawling on the floor, like why is that such a good, well, just using your body differently.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Really, if we really break it down to the benefit, just using your body differently, stretching, mobility, you recover faster and better that way than if you just sat and waited for things to happen. Because your body will adapt in any direction and one of the signals that you send when you're not doing anything is for your body to become weaker.
Starting point is 00:32:49 For your body not to recover quite as quickly, because you're not doing anything. There's no reason for your body to adapt if you're just sitting there not doing anything. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy, and maximize your overall performance,
Starting point is 00:33:04 check out our discounted RGB Superbundle at MindPumpMedia.com. The RGB Superbundle includes maps and a ballad, maps for formants and maps aesthetic. Nine months of phased, expert exercise programming designed by Sal Adam and Justin to systematically transform the way your body looks, feels and performs. With detailed workout blueprints in over 200 videos, the RGB Superbundle is like having Sal and the Justin as your own personal trainer's butt at a fraction of the price. The RGB Superbundle has a full 30-day money bag guarantee and you can get it now plus
Starting point is 00:33:43 other valuable free resources at MindPumpMedia.com. If you enjoy this show, please share the love by leaving us a five-star rating and review on iTunes and by introducing MindPump to your friends and family. We thank you for your support and until next time, this is MindPump. This is Mindbomb.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.