Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1903: The Role of Muscle Soreness & Gains, Sugar Vs. Sugar Substitutes, Overcoming Shaky Arms When Benching & More

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: One of the BEST ways to manage your cravings is to manage your blood sugar levels. Just walking 2 MINUTES after a meal will have a pronounced effect! (2:25) Adam recaps his helicopter ride in Hawaii. (12:35) Food trucks have come a LONG way! (23:15) Adam’s flying hack for traveling with toddlers. (27:50) What is Mind Pump streaming? (30:09) The strange controversy surrounding the Queen’s passing. (33:32) Check out the new designs from Felix Gray! (39:17) The ads on the backs of magazines were rip-offs! (41:02) We are getting closer and close to Halo. (43:34) How California is forcing the hand of these fast-food companies. (47:21) NCI’s CRAZY giveaway! (51:35) #Quah question #1 - Why are muscle soreness and calories burned not a good cue for effective exercises? What do you suggest we track? (54:31) #Quah question #2 - What are your opinions on sugar vs. sugar substitutes? (1:00:56) #Quah question #3 - What stabilizer muscle exercises do you recommend to help arms stop shaking when bench pressing? (1:10:03) #Quah question #4 - What are each of your most controversial health and wellness opinions? (1:14:26) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump x NCI Giveaway September Promotion: Skinny Guy Bundle (MAPS ANABOLIC // MAPS AESTHETIC // NO B.S. 6-PACK FORMULA // INTUITIVE NUTRITION GUIDE // OCCLUSION TRAINING GUIDE.) HALF OFF!! Also, the Fit Mom Bundle (MAPS ANYWHERE // MAPS ANABOLIC // MAPS HIIT // and INTUITIVE NUTRITION GUIDE.) HALF OFF!! **Code SEPT50 at checkout** Mind Pump #1815: Improving Fat Loss, Muscle Gain And Fitness With Continuous Glucose Monitors House of the Dragon | Official Website for the HBO Series Prime Video: The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - Season 1 Jeff Bezos and Black Professor Get Into Heated Exchange Over Queen’s Death Russia Says New Combat Suit Will Survive .50 Caliber Bullets   California fast food law could raise minimum wage to $22 an hour All-In Podcast E94: NFT volume plummets, California's overreach, FBI meddling, climate change & national security Visit LivON Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1830: Five Steps To Determine Your Ideal Caloric Intake Sore muscles…what does it mean? – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1852: The 4 Worst Ways To Judge Your Workout Success Diet Coke sales overtake classic Coke as the soft drinks giant navigates the sugar tax Fire up your Central Nervous System to maximize Muscular Adaptation – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Ben Pollack, Ph.D. (@phdeadlift) Instagram Layne Norton, Ph.D. (@biolayne) Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere) Instagram

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50% off discount. All right, here comes the show. One of the best ways to manage your cravings is to manage your blood sugar levels. Here's a cool hack, just two minutes of walking. That's it, two minutes of walking after you eat severely blunts your blood sugar spikes and crashes. So that's all it takes, two minutes. Now this is a new, right? This is a new information.

We thought in the past that it took longer or more exercise to lower the blood pressure, right? This is a new information. We thought in the past that it took longer or more exercise to lower the blood pressure, right? Isn't this blood sugar? They're blood, excuse me. Yeah, no problem. No, they just did some studies showing that even just standing up and sitting down, they'll, it'll affect the blood sugar.

Now, two minutes of walking does a much more pronounced effect and so people may be wondering what's a big deal. Like, why would I want to? It's only two minutes. I'm not putting tons of calories's a big deal. Like why would I want to, it's only two minutes, I'm not putting tons of calories, not a workout. So why do this anyway? Those blood sugar spikes and crashes influence our behaviors. And they can make us feel irritable,

they can increase cravings, they can give us hunger cues, and behaviors that would drive, obviously, your eating habits. So one of the best ways to work with your behaviors is to control your blood sugar, makes it easier to eat healthy, makes you feel better, makes you sharper, less irritable, all those things. And it's just to make it worse. And it's for a long time. I mean, mainly just because of like the digestive benefit that I received from like after a meal and just walking through it and getting everything kind of moving,

you know, plays a, you, plays a massive advantage there. Yeah, no, it makes a big role with digestion. It's a present in a lot of old cultures where people will walk after meals. I mean, I used to recommend people walk post meal more so because it's an easy way to add activity. Because they're gonna eat breakfast lunch in any way. So I'd say, hey, you know, do 10 minutes after breakfast lunch

dinner, just 30 minutes of walking a day that you've attached to, you know, normal life. That's how it started for me was I, I was during the time that I was prepping. It was the first time I'd ever like tracked steps and really try to like strategically increase activity over time. Wait, look at it. I'm going to hit your globe, dude.

So distracting. What's going on, dude? Bro, just folks on gloves. Bro, Doug is the man for coming through. I wasn't sure if you really ordered him out. What are you looking at, Sassam? I was so excited. This is probably the most exciting to work today.

Today was like the most exciting day I've had. You're like that kid. You get new shoes, you got to wear it right away. Bro, come on, tell me these rooms are not awesome. They look, I can't wait to drive today. They look like an assassin. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. I drove the truck to an ass kind of lame to drive it

in the truck, so I don't know if I'll use them today, but I can't wait. It's so functional. It's red stitching and everything, dude. That's like smelling them really clearly. Check out the real, yeah, Doug got me real leather. It's the real, these are the real deal, man. And the red stitching isn't like over done or whatever, so.

But back to my point, so you're for real gonna wear those yeah well when I drive when I drive the SVR I well not when I drive like the regular car so for real every time you drive it you're gonna put max in there yeah he's been in that car twice. So you're gonna get in the car, I'm late. Come back, love, love. I'm in drive. Wow.

I mean, I'm gonna keep him right there by the dash, you know what I'm saying? So he's like, you know what I'm saying? Why do you think you have a glove box, right? Oh, jeez. There you go. Is that really the name? Is that where it came from?

Of course. Yeah, wow. Never because the original car, by the way, everybody calm down. The reason why people wore gloves back in the day is because their hands were dirty because they'd work with their hands and they'd fix the car and crank it on.

So they had a little glove box. Put your gloves on, you don't get your hand on dirty. Okay, it made its way to the rich and famous later on to protect the steering wheel because the steering wheels were made of like real wood, real leather, suede, and the oil. And you don't want it, and the oil. And the oil, and the chain, you know what, just in steel fingers,

all over your steering wheel. Put this, man, it gives me a grip. I put these for Justin, he dresses like, car, you put the fucking gloves on, he drives my car, bro. That's your cheat to beat yourself. Then they get, OJ, Quaid, it from where he's driving.

Sure, yeah, it's well, yeah. Cause the gloves, the gloves. All right, let's talk about bloodshed. I don't know, back to what I said was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I whole prep, I knew that one of the easiest ways for me to create the Chloric Devacet was just adding a little bit more movement every single day. And so I had to find these little hacks on creating more activity. And one of those became this like 10, 15 minute walk

after my meals. And as a side effect, I started to notice how well it made, like how good I felt afterwards. So the intention, I didn't go into it, like, oh, I want my digest and be better. Oh, I'm really, I need to create more activity. Calorie was in burn cows. Yeah, that was like the strategy.

But it turned into this really cool hack of I felt so much better. And then the second one, and I've brought this up in the past, it became this really cool time to connect with Katrina. It just became this routine of, instead of like eating dinner and popping down on the couch and watching TV or doing something like that or getting distracted on my phone or some of that,

was like, we would eat, and then when we're done eating, we would just put the electronics down and we'd go for a nice 10, 15 minute walk and it just, it started to guarantee this time every single day, which minute walk and it just, it started to guarantee this time every single day, which seems like no big deal, but I bet you'd be surprised how many people go several days in a row of not carving out 10 solid minutes of, especially if you have kids, you understand, or if you have kids, you can easily go two or three days in a row of like not having a 10 minute just non-distracted conversation

with your partner. And I found that we created this really cool nice intimate bond. And so it paired as like- And then Justin mentioned digestion. You know, there's hip flexor muscles like the so-ass for example that kind of runs around or near the digestive system. And every time you take a step when you walk, it almost massages. Your digestive system allows food to process through.

Plus gravity helps with digestion. In fact, when astronauts go to space, they a lot of them exhibit digestive issues because of zero gravity. So standing up, walking, moving, taking those steps, every time you take a step, there's a little bit more pressure, you know, pushing down, helping the digestive process.

That's moving along. Yeah, so it's an old, it's actually an old piece of advice for people who have digestive issues, for people who are constipated or have issues with like heartburn. I'll go for it, that was an old advice. Oh, so I walk after you eat. Yeah, that was a big help for me. I mean, especially with the heartburn stuff, because, yeah, I would just stay kind of trapped. Otherwise, if I just was like sedentary after I'd eaten, especially like at night after a big meal for dinner,

and then I'm sitting on the couch watching someone TV, it was just like inevitable. I'd be like laying down and Ben just, you hear the gurgles and all that happened. Yeah, so what do you think, do you think that affects us metabolically even? Well, yeah, that, I mean, it's with blood sugar. I mean, that's a clear one.

You know, when we talk to the... Because this also flies in the face of the whole calories in versus calories out all the time, argument too. Because if you're, so if you're, you're telling me it affects me metabolically then, then even if I had the same amount of calories but it took the same person with the same activity but that one person decided to take a 10 minute walk

after every single meal, which sped up the digestive process. But if we looked at total calories consumed and all calories burned was equal, you don't, you think that it would metabolically impact the person. Well, if they're equal then no, but it's not equal, right?

The calories out part is constantly changing. Hormone's affected, movement affects it. Mine, you know, mindset affects it, stress, that kind of stuff. So if you're moving a little bit, you get the extra calorie burn. Let's forget that for a second though. If your blood sugar is better controlled, behaviors are changed. So what kind of behaviors do blood sugar crashes and spikes lead to? Less activity, more odibility, more cravings.

Right. And not just that, but then hormones themselves, things like testosterone and growth hormone. Growth hormone, for example, is opposite insulin. Insulin goes up, growth hormone goes down, insulin goes down, growth hormone tends to go up. So that can also contribute to your body wanting to build more muscle or store more body fat. So it's all plays a role.

So that's why the whole calories in versus calories out, they have all those opponents who say, oh, it's not that because what they point to is the fact that it's very complex, which is true. It is very complex, but still calories still count, but it is very complex. So what your your argument is that it's it could potentially dramatically change the behaviors in that say that same person. Totally. Same person decides I'm going to just make sure I get a 10 minute walk after every single one of these meals. And even, uh, even if the college consumed is the same, that's the only thing they change is doing that walk. What it's potentially going to do aside from the calorie burn of the 10 minute walk is potentially promote better activity, better home

on profile, better better better better be operating system. Yeah. Well, look, I'll use myself, for example, if I eat something that causes these blood sugar spikes and crashes, I tend to, afterwards, not want to move, feel sluggish, and tired, then I start to get irritable, and then I start to have cravings again later on. Two, three hours later, I want more sugar or more palatable foods to get that blood sugar to come back up to make myself feel better,

and then the cycle continues. This is why NutriSense, when we had a young lady on the show who represents the company, that's why she said, so it's a very effective strategy. If I look at someone's... It's also why we're invested in the company. Yes. You look at someone's blood sugar connected to behaviors, people can connect it to you and go,

oh, that's why I feel like shit at this point. That's why I have those cravings. It's my blood sugar. It's my midday low. Yes, yes, and it's literally, it's literally, it's literally I have those cravings. It's my blood sugar. It's my midday low. Yes, yes. Literally, it's literally, it's literally time out two minutes. They did these studies and found two minutes of a walk. That's literally you eat, you get up, you walk down the street and back and you're done. And that is enough to show a measurable decline in blood sugar.

Now you want to add another five minutes to it or whatever, that's awesome. Go for 10 minutes. I think that's even better. But two minutes is nothing. That's nothing at all. You know, spend more time in that bathroom afterwards. I can do a lot of two minutes, you guys. Exactly. I really missed you guys, dude. You know what, this is one of the longest stints

that we went of not hanging out together. I know. I know. Because normally even when we do a vacation, at least a pair of us, or half of us, or the group work together. Yeah, out together. I know. I know. Because normally even when we do a vacation, at least a pair of us, or half of us, or the group works together. Yeah, are together. So I think this is one of the few times

where we were a full, like 10 days even, or more away from each other. You keep coming back darker, dude. Yeah. You got a lot of sun out there, huh? Yeah, I did get a lot of sun. Oh, nice was it out there. It was beautiful.

Yeah, it was like 82 to 84 like every Bro, the sun literally was sitting on my feet. It was like it was so hot. It was blazing. I know I guess we so it was Record heats right in San Jose. Yeah, when we when we left which we couldn't have time lost power three times Yeah, which is really awesome. All right, especially after they tell us that they want all gas cars gone. 23 power and up. My aunt and uncle are the ones who house it is for us. And they left what starts with the B. It's all right over right over the pass. I can't think of it.

Blueberries. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's right over where you go over the ultimate over there I cannot think of it right now I don't know I you know Terrible you're all like Belgium okay, it's it's it's heading like you're heading back towards the valley Well, I think anyways it was like a hundred and sixteen degrees at their house Okay. Anyways, it was like 116 degrees at their house. 116, but they were in, they were at my place

where it was like 72. Oh yeah, it's cool. Yeah, so it only hit, I think it hit records for us over there at like 76, 78. Yeah, it did even hit both. But you death Valley broke, I guess, a record. I think it was like 127 or something. Wow.

Like it was like for the hottest, like ever in my life. What's the hottest temperature you've ever experienced in like real life 120 120 120 one or 124 Yeah, we hit record heats going through Arizona when we moved to Colorado There was people messing around like frying bacon on their hoods and cooking eggs on their hood It messed the bottom of your shoes like if you stay in one place too long Yeah, I noticed that one time it was like my shoes started to melt. Yeah, I was in Palm Desert.

Yeah, that's where I was. When I went down there in the summer hit, and I remember, it was like, you know, I'd go to work at 7 a.m. I was like, what's gonna happen today? Yeah, it was 110 degrees at like 10 o'clock at night on that day. Weird, like so.

So 100, people have never experienced a 120 degree heat. It's really weird. Like you hit the sun, you go outside and you're like, so 100 people have never experienced a 120 degree heat. It's really weird. Like you hit the sun, you go outside and you're like, oh, yeah, it's hard to do anything. Yeah. It doesn't feel like that's the face. Yeah, you feel it's weird.

There we go. So I saw that you flew in a helicopter. Bro, this one right here, right? Yes. I literally rode it. I was the magnet back. Yeah, you just got inside. I'm the helicopter for little people.

Yeah. Doug telecom, so you... So, actually, Doug is the only one in the group that could ride in the front of the telecopter. Yeah, you had to weigh. You had to get on a scale and weigh yourself before. So, I didn't make the front. I didn't make, you know, my heavy ass.

I didn't make the front. None of us would. Yeah, Doug would be the only one allowed to sit in the front of the helicopter. We got the for propeller helicopter, you're just. So, so what, so you, so what is it? It's literally that one. It is literally the magnet door on it.

There's no doors on any of it. Wow. So when we were looking it up, so my, my brother-in-law was the one who actually said, I was like, bro, I've actually really wanted to do that in Hawaii for the longest time. And he's like, I'm so down. If you are and I'm like, yeah, let's do it wanted to do that in Hawaii for the longest time. And he's like, I'm so down if you are. And I'm like, yeah, let's do it.

So we started like looking up all the, and there's tons of them over there, right? In fact, there was one in the resort that I was at. There was a helicopter that took off from right there. But a lot of them are these kind of like luxury, you know, closed door. They fit like six, eight people, like in them and so like that. They're a little more expensive. And I was reading on all these reviews and all the people that I was reading, all the reviews I was reading were saying that the like craziest, best experience is to do the, you know, the MPI, whatever, you know, Magnum PI helicopter, because it has no doors on it.

Those ones, excuse me, are more maneuverable. And so you just feel more of it and you're hanging out of the helicopter. Now I do get air sick, because I would imagine you're taking banks and... No, they don't really, they don't fly you like that. Like they have a protocol, they have to be safe and stuff like that.

Was it worth it? Yeah. It was well worth it. It was probably one of the coolest experiences that I definitely have ever done in Hawaii. I've been in Hawaii a worth it. It was probably one of the coolest experiences that I definitely have ever done in Hawaii. I've been in Hawaii a bunch of times. That was one of the coolest. And afterwards, I don't know why I didn't do it before

because I was like, you know what, if I was ever gonna do a helicopter ride, I can't think of too many places that would be cooler than flying around Hawaii just because the scenery is like this. It's gorgeous. Yeah, like you, I thought about doing that like as like a romantic dinner thing with Katrina in the past, like this. Oh, it's gorgeous. Yeah, like you know, I thought about doing that like as like a romantic dinner thing

with Katrina in the past, like are you flying the city or something like that? Which that would be cool to fly over the bay and things like that. But you have like a few things you're looking at that are really cool. Where when you're flying in Hawaii, you look left, you look right,

and it is just gorgeous everywhere. I feel like, especially if you live on the west coast of the US, you take Hawaii for granted because it's a part of the US. Like, it's like one of the most beautiful places I've ever been to in my entire life. Yeah, it rivals any tropical anything I've ever been to. In fact, I think it's Hawaii in particular. It's just so gorgeous. I love it.

And you forget, you're almost like, oh yeah, that's we have this. You know, this is a part of it. I've been wanting to do a court. He's been talking to me out of it. I think she was younger,, like in her teens, when she went on a helicopter ride, like over a quad, but like a super sick. And so she was just like, no, I'm not going to do it. I mean, I'd be lying if I didn't say I was a little scared.

Like it, not having the doors on there and in those little ones, like the wind would blow and you would, you would feel the helicopter move. That's crazy. You know, so it's not, I mean, you fly in a airplane, a jet, like, you know, you get a little bit of turbulence, right? Every once in a while, but it's like nothing, right? Like in the helicopter, the, as, and you're flying around the island,

if you've ever been to Hawaii, like there's a saying in Hawaii, right? Like if you don't like the weather in Hawaii, wait five minutes. It was it, because it's constantly changing. Yeah, there's not a microclimate. That's right. So you actually, as you're flying through this helicopter, with doors off, you feel all those microclimates. I would feel it go up 10 degrees and down 10 degrees.

Oh, that's cool. We went through a little bit of rain one time, then you feel like a little gust of wind. So in that little helicopter, you felt every movement, every different microclimate that you experienced going through there. And it took about 20 minutes, I'd say. It was an hour ride. It took about 20 minutes for me to kind of relax.

You have like this O-shit bar. You can, you know, you're hanging on too. Because all that you have is this little lap belt and one like a seat belt that would be in a car holding you in. And that's the only thing keeping you from sliding out of this helicopter. So you, I mean, it's, it's hard to not want to hang on to that the whole time just to feel safe. Now you don't bring Max.

You can't go. No, we didn't bring Max. It was just me, my brother-in-law, my best friend, and then my brother-in-law met some chick-ways out there and we'd let her come on the plane because we actually rented the helicopter out to ourselves. Good news. And so we had an extra, yeah. Yeah, great. Yeah.

Great way to settle that. You're a great part. I don't think he sealed the deal still. No. I don't think I even know what to say. I'm like, we got a helicopter. She got a helicopter. You're a helicopter.

Oh, boy guy. It was fine. I was watching your story. And like, as you guys were going to get on, like, there was that kind of area where they were made it all like Magnum PI themed. Yes. And they had like pictures of them. It was just fine to me because it was like

the red Hawaiian shirt and all that. Like my dad literally dressed like that for years. That's why I sent it to you. Yeah. Because I know he won the Tom Selecord and he had that like for the lookalike and I thought he would appreciate all that. So I sent it to you. Yeah. So I didn't realize that when that show first came out, they used to be called like a different

helicopter. He told me the name of the company before and they changed it to that just as a marketing scheme. Oh yeah. And it was so successful that now, like, I guess there you have remakes of Magnum PI that are being made still or whatever that. Yeah, there's one. There's a, I think from one of the guys from that show being made still or whatever that. Yeah, there's one.

There's a, I think from one of the guys that show lost, I think, was like, like, starring. Yeah, they have, it's still running. And they actually come over. In fact, I think it was like in two weeks, you was like, yeah, they come over here and they shoot all the time and they use our helicopters and stuff because. So it's created all kinds of. Tom Sallie, wasn't he just considered like the sexiest man for a long time Yeah, like a long time every dude was like growing their chest her out just so you know

You made a cool be hairy. Yeah, it was him or Bert Reynolds that did that first they both Really was that Eric was first. I think Bert was memory. He did the famous rug. Yeah, where's Lincoln the naked rug thing right? The rug was it what was that from or what was a play girl Megas? Oh, the rug. Was it, what was that from? Or what was it from? Playgirl Megas. Oh, it was, it was a playground thing, right? Wasn't that, yeah, I mean, I have 10 copies. It does get roasted to me. Yeah. Hey, we're just getting started too, Doug.

Hey, I look forward to it. We missed you. I can tell. Yeah, funny way of showing it. Yeah. Oh, no, no. No, yeah, he was, for a long time, he could continue to be like the sexiest man

up until he was like in his 60s. This guy was a big deal. Tom Salker. He's still doing blue bloods, right? He was doing that show for a while. I think so. Now the Ferrari he drove, that's what I remember. Yeah, that was the, what was that?

The GT3 something or whatever? Yeah, they had that in there. Yeah. So they had it in there. By the way, you got in it and like done all kinds of things. By the way, if you take those super cars from the 80s Today, they would get they would get Crushed by the like fast sedan. Yeah on the street now. Yeah, it was like 0 to 16 like five points something second

Oh, I mean, I think just in the last you talk about cars like 600 the last decade in cars has just been insane Yeah, I mean, I mean zero to 60 back in the days with like fast was I mean, there's songs. If you listen like zero to 60 and five point seven, like, that was like super, not cars are doing like two seconds. Yeah, that's crazy. I know. It's well. Actually, I saw Doug, you can leave this out. There's actually a really cool thing on your point to Ferrari. Look up, uh, Ferrari's zero to 60 quarter mile evolution. And you can actually look to sell before. And it's like crazy and it's like crazy how dramatic it's been in the last like, if you can't do that.

I mean, obviously it's still a collector. That particular Ferrari's one of my favorites. It's just when I was a kid. It's still on TV. I mean, it doesn't rival. The best Ferrari of all time for me is, what's your first? Testifiers, the old one.

Oh, no, the old one that was like. Oh, yes. I don't know what to talk. Oh, the test fee, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the old one. No, the old one that was like, oh, yes. I don't know what to talk. Yeah, yeah, that one, that's 60s, I think. That's, that one's worth like millions, isn't it? Dude, it's so sexy, that one, yeah. It's gorgeous. Gorgeous car.

I love that car. Yeah, we, what we did all week is, because we didn't go anywhere. So we kind of did like day dates and stuff. So we had the nanny come and hang out for most of the day. And it's a super funny because the first day she came, we're like, Hey, why don't you come at like nine and stay till like 3 p.m. So Jessica and I go, Oh, we get some brunch and hang out. And it's hilarious because we look at the clock. And it's like 1 p.m. We're like, I don't

want to take a nap. But we can't go home. The nanny's there. What are we going to do? She's like, why are we gonna do? She's like, why did I book her for so long? Like, right now we're so old. It was not that a park. Yeah. We were like, maybe we should just go to the movies and go take a nap in the movies.

Oh, yeah. We were so pretty. That's why we, so the deal that we made was that we took care of Katrina's brother's trip, right? To come to Hawaii so he could actually watch Max. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. Although I would say I spent most of my time with Max because like Hawaii's, I was a cool place to be with him and spend the most time. But when it was nice, was most all evenings, we would put him down and then

her and I would like, we were, we were at the, there was a bar, right? There was an outside bar and restaurant that was like right on the villas that, like, like the stone throw away. We would just, we'd leave her and leave him with the kids and then us, us four, us two couples would go have drinks at the bar and go eat and stuff like that and he kind of lay back and just make sure the kids stay down and I love to see food over there. Do you have good seafood?

Oh, yeah, dude. I mean, I, you tell you what, what was really cool. So we stayed on North Shore. So Turtle Bay area, I don't know how familiar you guys are with Oahu or not, but Waikiki is the popular area. We're on the complete opposite, direct opposite, North Shore where the famous sunset beaches. Which is more like the local place, right?

Now they do have Turtle Bay Resort, which is right where we are at. So we're at Turtle Bay and we are in these ocean villas right there. But I'll tell you what was one of the coolest experiences going there. It was the first time I'd stayed there. Every day I ate at this truck stop. So and I remember going there. So the last time I went to a Wahoo was quite a while ago, especially on the North Shore, they had this little area that had like, I don't know, maybe like five, five to ten, like,

you know, truck food, that they do like over here in the Bay Area, we're like four or five will come. Okay, so this area has been there for a long time, but I hadn't seen it in almost a decade, and it's like expanded, it's huge. There was probably 35 to 40 of these trucks in this huge, multiple parking lots that were all attached

about the food to go. Incredible. I mean, absolutely incredible. And everything you could possibly think of, and it's been cooked in these trucks. The best fish tacos ever had in my life was literally this tiny little hole in the wall. It was like this tiny little hole in the wall place

on the road in quiet. We pulled over and I ate them. I'm like, this is the best. They're so cool. They've converted like school buses and old gray home buses that are like super old that have turned into full blown kitchens. I mean, they're designed to stay there.

They don't move, right? Yeah. But I mean, we ate there every single day, at least once or twice. I never ate the same thing twice and every experience was phenomenal. Like not one, I go like, oh, that sucked. It was like, damn, should I eat that again?

I wanna try something new because there's so much. So much of gun, like, oh, got a long way. Like, there's so many options now. Well, it was so cool that it's worth staying there just experience that for a week. Well, as a trial, as a business that makes sense, if you're a chef and you work at a restaurant and you do a good job and you want to own, you have dreams of owning

your own restaurant, like a truck is lower overhead. Perfect. Yeah, lower overhead, you're not going to be paying, signing a crazy lease, you have used yourself and maybe one other person helping you. So it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, so that's why they move around. I mean, Austin was cool about that too.

They had a lot of different like food truck places where they all have options. Yeah, California has a bunch of restrictions around it. Well, they do, but I think after the pandemic and all that, like there was, so even in Scottsville, they have every like a first week of the month, there's like on a Thursday or whatever, like they have food trucks out at this one park

and there's like 20 or 30 of them. And so it's like a thing now that just stuck because it's like the same things. There's just so many cool options for now. No, it made like the trip itself, like worth going there just to do that. I was like, man, I could have just done that every day, hang out at the pool in the beach,

come experience different food like that every day. That's my favorite part of it. Oh yeah, it was a really, really, really good vacation. And I was really worried on the flight, right? Because it's nine hours of travel, dude. I mean, you feed five to six hours. So six hours one way, five hours the other way, right? So six hours of flight time, you have to get to the airport

two hours early when you're traveling that far. And then basically an hour to get your luggage and get out of it, right? So basically nine hours of travel for a three-year-old. And so, how do you do? You did great. Did you guys see my little, my flying hack? No.

Oh, you didn't see it? So, I don't know where I'd come up with this. I've seen somebody else do this for something else. And I thought, this would be perfect for the hack because he's at this phase right now. We're last year and you're coming up on this real soon here. Like I think this is the Christmas where your son will probably be more into Christmas, like opening presents.

Since that, he's like so into just unwrapping stuff. And I've told you my mother-in-law gets him something like every time she sees him and he just, he loves the unwrapping part. This is give a shit. It could be a 99 cent coloring book or whatever. So Katrina and I wrapped a present for every hour. So we went down to like target. I think she went to target.

Got a coloring book, a little egg toy, like, you know, a little puzzle thing, like all these little cheap toys. And we we wrapped them. And then we, we'd never let them see them. So we kept them in another bag. And then, you know, we try to keep them entertained and happy. They're iPad or eating, or doing games or doing other stuff. And then whenever he'd kind of get antsy, right before

he'd start to get it all fussier, and with that, Katrina would be like, do you want a present? And he'd be like, you got a present? And then you give a present. He'd open the present, be all excited, and then he'd play with that toy for like an hour. You might be creating an association that's going to bite you in the ass. I may be, you know, say, I'm going to trip down. Yeah, you know, and I thought about that, right? I thought like, wow, you know, my son gonna want a present every single time he flies,

that's gonna be ridiculous. No, I don't think so. He's young as he gets older. I exactly, I think this is only a really good hack from maybe two to four years old. If he acts up too much, open this one, Ben and Drill. Yeah. Yeah, try it.

Yeah, try it. And it wasn't like an expensive thing. too much. Open this one. Ban a drill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't like an expensive thing. Like you literally could go to a 99 cent store. Yeah. I'm just getting it. It's just excitement or something. It is. The excitement of not knowing what's in there. And in fact, I wrapped a sticker book that I had already bought him before. You know what I'm saying that he had. He's good. No. Yeah. I let's go to the drawers. I'm like, I need one more gift. One for an hour. And I'm like, oh, here's a sticker book that he never opened. So I just wrapped a present.

That's already open before. Yeah. Are you guys watching all the stuff that's coming out right now? I'm streaming. It was like a bunch of stuff that like rings of power. Yeah. And I'm so behind. I'm into that.

I'm into the new Game of Thrones, which it's actually picking up. It's started out. Actually, I enjoyed it from the get-go. Courtney was out because it was so brutal. Like they did classic Game of Thrones where they're just like smashing heads and like cutting off limbs and whatnot. And then like I'm up to like the fourth episode, I believe, is the latest one. And it's like, it was like straight up debauchery, porn.

Like it got crazy. Like they're going hard this season, like, getting good ratings. I don't know, I haven't read anything about it yet, but I've just been watching it and it's really good. So I was super looking forward to the rings of power, the huge Lord of the Rings fan, and it's kind of boring. Yeah, I watched one episode. I could tell they're trying to build the characters.

So I'm still watching it, I'm still loyal. I'm like, okay, let's go to work through this. But it's a little bit boring. And I don't realize that there's, God, man, Tolkien created the craziest, like, world in so intricate detail. Like, I don't know in the beginning, so the heart-foot are in the beginning,

the first episode. They look like little hobbits. Yeah, like hobbits. Those are ancestors of Hobbits. So Hobbits aren't even, don't even exist during this time. What's it like 900 or 1000 years? Thousand years before. Okay.

Yeah, so it's, so that was sort of the disconnect, right? Cause it's like all new characters. So they're not like any familiar is really. And so you've gotten further into it. So they introduced anybody that's like a familiar face. Gandalf, you know, he comes in, and at first I don't know, it was Gandalf, I don't want to give away too many spoilers, but so it's kind of interesting.

Okay. It is kind of interesting, but it's not. It's a grab, grabbed yet. Not yet, dude. I see, I haven't watched it because I feel like both those have such deep plots that I need to be able to watch a few of them in a row because if I, you know how that is, certain shows, you're not pointing actually. No, certain shows, you can watch,

and I can leave it for three weeks, come back, pick up and feel like I can pick. And shows like Game of Thrones and Lord of Rings have such deep plots with so many connecting parts and different worlds or centuries. It's like that if I lose track of where I was at, I have to go point. So I've actually been saving them to get all the way out

and then I'm like, I told Katrina because I don't think she's interested in it. I'm gonna probably one day when she's not around, benge through some of them because it's just, I started to watch the teaser and I'm like, oh my God, I'm like lost on the teaser on where this is taking me in time and who the characters are like. I'm doing that with Game of Thrones. It's yeah, you kind of go back and you're like, how is this related to, you know, this family and there's just so many different families and so many different characters and it's create and plus.

You know, they they dabble with a lot of like fucked up themes, you know, like incest and all these other things. And you're just like, yeah. And it's so it's like, you gotta be in the right mood to be able to take that kind of content in. What kind of mood do you gotta be in? I don't know. I don't know. You're just like, oh, like.

So everything in the world so messed up, like this makes sense. According to you, no, I'm in the mood for it. It's too hot. It's too hot to for it. Yeah. The fortune of today, this is what's so homicidal. You can never justify it, but it's just like, hey, you know, it's, uh, it's there. Hey, speaking of like, uh, related and all that stuff. So, so the Queen, the Queen of England died, right? So, uh, a lot of strange controversy around that.

So, um, yeah, I'm sure you guys have heard right? Yeah, no, I've seen both, right? I've seen people doing posts that were celebrating her life and doing, in fact, the NFL did a big old thing on her, but then the whole audience booed, right? So the NFL did like a tribute to her, but yet the arena booed her. It's the whole like royalty thing.

And so here's what's interesting to me. There's this mean that's going around showing how, so King Charles now, right? He's now the king. He now inherits their wealth. So it's like, I don't know how many billions of dollars that the royal family has. He now inherits all of it. And through a special law, he pays no inheritance tax. Now in the UK, there's a 40% inheritance tax

for everybody else. Everybody else. Now here's where I think people are funny, because predictably what do people say? They need to pay 40%. I'm like, why aren't you guys saying you should pay zero? It should be the other way around. Not like you need to pay, they need to pay what I'm paying.

You need to look at and go, we should have zero percent on that same deal. Yeah, you know? That's the part that makes me laugh. So it was really worth 34 billion. Yeah, 34 billion. So okay, I know nothing about, and I give literally zero chits about like the royal family, like stuff, but so Megan and this whole thing

with them going to Canada, but now of sudden with Charles then being related, like they have lineage now to the throne. No idea. Okay, thanks. My in-laws are English and there's a big deal to them. So they really made a big deal about this whole thing. Now where are they on?

Because I feel like, they love the Queen. Oh, they love it. It's like, I mean, if you're English, I'm gonna generalize, okay, but I guess if you're English, it's a big deal. It's your heritage. She was valued quite a bit,

because relatively neutral. She wasn't super political. She, I guess she did a lot of good things and she acted in a way that were, I guess pretty progressive. So did you see the tweet, the tweet that the teacher from what I forget what was Harvard or Stanford or one of those, one of the big schools tweeted out,

Jeff Bezos, get real nasty tweet about her and the Jeff Bezos responded. Did you see that? No. Jeff Bezos responds to Queen Death tweet. and then you'll see who it was. So yeah, what I find interesting is you say she's so beloved, but then you have people in America who are like just enraged by her that are putting out tweets and saying things that have how oppressive that she was. Well, you know what's interesting. So years ago, so this isn't now,

but years ago I had a friend who was English, really good friend of mine. And I would tease him, like, oh, you know, we would talk shit back and forth. Like, oh, you English still have royalty, like, who cares, whatever goes. You guys have celebrities here in America. That's the, yeah, this is the same thing.

He's like, how the hell are some of these celebrities so rich? Why? Because you guys just give them money because they're famous. I'm like, oh, I guess, with that difference. Well, that's an interesting way to spin it. Yeah, I mean, it's not that different. It's weird as humans, we like to have,

we like to put people on pedestals for some reason. Yeah, it's right. And worship them. You know what I mean? And this is just an extent. That's actually really a fascinating way to look at it. So do they not in the UK not have like super mega stars and movie stars?

They do also, but they treat the royalty. But they treat the royalty. Like they're, they're, they're, they're in a city, like, like so Elton John got knighted. Right. It's like a big deal. Like intertwined with like, it's a part of the culture. Yeah. Does this anything they're dug? Yeah. So there is this professor,

professor Uju Anya. Yeah. I think she's from Africa who wished that she had an excruciating death, right? Because of what she was colonizer. Yeah. And so Bezos responded back. And that's where the controversy was. What was his response? This is someone supposedly working to make the world better. I don't think so. Wow. That's his response. Oh, I see. You know, here's a deal. If you talk to any, I don't think so. Wow, that's his response. Oh, I see. You know, here's a deal. If you talk to any, I don't care what culture you're from, your culture kicks someone else out.

Or, or, or, you know, fought someone in one or it's just the history of the world. Yeah. So it's, and I get it, but. So that's a part of the deal. It's a country that I want. This is the part that obviously I didn't comment on any of this because I don't know. So was she specifically oppressive as a ruler and a leader or was it her family lineage? That's a lineage. That's stupid. That's like blaming me for saying that my great, great grandfather did when it's like, fuck, they judged me on my character. You're like, what I'm doing, not what, you know, someone did.

And by the way, by the way, you go back and you find anybody's great great-grandfather especially the context of the you know the time they did some shit. Oh yeah. So this is a tweet I said I heard the chief monarch of the of the theven raping genocidal empire is finally dying. Yeah. May her pain be excruciating. It's okay. So here's a deal. It's so hypocritical because wherever this woman is from, I guarantee whoever's there now did the same thing to people before that and before that and before that. So it's just, that's literally history of the world.

It's not a culture or a country problem. It's a human issue and it's just how humans are. Now, by the way, I'm not trying you know, trying to say it's okay. It's just what people do and we've done it forever. And we get better. We're better at it now. We're not so, you know, we don't go in conquer places like we used to, at least not the ways that we used to.

So, I don't know, very interesting. Anyway, Justin, I want to see those glasses. I know you put them on the table. Yeah. But I think you need to show everybody how nice they look on your face. So these are the Felix Craze that I like the most. We're supposed to talk about them right now, and I figured the best way to sell them is to show your face.

I don't have a model like. You know, Doug Polter, we pulled their website real quick. They actually just dropped three new lenses. There's, they have like the clear Faradays, and then there's two other... Which ones are the ones he has, Jemisin? Which ones are the Jemisin? Those are for fat faces.

I don't think. They don't make the clearance for the fat faces. For bird faces, you have to wear the mask. Oh my God, you're having your both of those. He has a big head, you have a fat face. I do have an idea of a fat face, but I have a narrow fat face. He has a fat, fat face. You're narrow with cheeks, I'm like a fat face. I do have a I don't have a fat face, but I have a narrow fat face Yeah, like a fat

Facts I'm like a round leg Yeah, right fruit. Yeah, I'm like a small fat face. He's got like a big well You know what I like okay, so have you guys seen other people's blue light blocking glasses So I was out of buddy's house and he's like oh, I wear blue light blocking and put some on like they're like terrible Yeah, right? Who's gonna talk? Go to the top? We're super dorky. How come yours doesn't have what mine have when I clicked on the website?

Mine, mine showed, mine shows that all the new glasses. Yeah, you can see some of those clear one frames. Yeah, that's the new search for you, Doug. All right. They're the best, they're the best looking blue light blocking glasses by far. And like, I mean, like you can see when you look at Justin besides how handsome he is,

they don't change, they're not orange, you know, or red, which I don't know, if you wear blue light blocking glasses and watch TV and it's orange, it kind of ruins the TV experience. You little sleepy too, which is the biggest. Yeah. That's the biggest objection I get, you know, from those. Anyway, speaking of new technology, while you look, oh, speaking of glasses, by the way, I just remember, so off-airair Doug and I were talking about this

You guys didn't read comic books when you were kids, right? Yeah, I did you did, yeah, okay You remember in the back the ads for there was always ads for X-ray glasses. I had those did you buy them? Yeah What a rip off so oh toll rib It was a freaking what a rip They have like little whole in like the swirly, yeah, colored. But also, also think about how creepy of a thing you're advertising. Hey guys, would you like,

and they would show a picture of a woman wearing a dress and you can see through it. The guys bought that shit. Oh, totally. How creepy is that? What was the other one where you can see around corners? Oh, that was different. You know what I'm saying?

Those were dope. I had those, like the just, I had those, I had the mirrors, the mirrors, the side. Those were cool glasses. What about the C monkeys? You guys ever buy the C monkeys from the back of the, I did. Yeah. Those are just like,

Brian Shrimp or something like that. Yeah, something weird. What was that? They're like Brian Shrimp or something like that, like a little shrimp. The ad would say, it's a waste. They'd be like, raise C monkeys

and they have pictures of these human looking in the water in the mirror. Creatures, right? I thought, wow, that's good. Pull up an ad, I put, be like race sea monkeys. And they have pictures of these human looking water creatures. Right. I thought, wow, that's cool. But ad put old sea monkeys ad. I, and it worked as a kid, you buy it. You'd look at this and be like, I want these weird creatures.

Yeah, it's just little brine shrimp that you pour in water. Yeah, they'd sell that and like magic stuff. Like you get like, I don't know, whatever like, card deck, like tricks and like all that kind of stuff. They would sell all kinds of gimmicks in the back. The back of bodybuilding magazines were almost as bad, by the way. Some of the ads in the back were ridiculous. I specifically remember that ad right there.

Yeah, for sure. Only a dollar. Well, because like Charles Atlas, too, to need, he, uh, he actually had a workout program. Yeah. No, I'm talking about Well, that has to be like the worst at ever because you the print you need a magnifying glass to read what it's what it's Everton. I mean, it's it's old. That's an old that's got to be from the 70s maybe or even earlier or even earlier. Yeah, I used to buy Combo it was Brian trip by the way. I used to buy comic books

I used to buy comic books. You hoped it was Brian Troom, by the way. I used to buy comic books that were old. So I'd go to this comic book store and buy some from the 60s and set, but they were cheap because they weren't like valuable ones. But they said love getting those really, really old ones. Yeah, those were always in like, I had the Archie comics, you know, those were stupid. Did you read, I was in love with Veronica. Of course.

Did you guys read Matt? Was it Matt? Yeah, Matt lives? No, Matt. Cr Veronica. Of course. Did you guys read Matt? Was it Matt? Yeah, Matt lives? No, Matt. Cracked. Oh no. I did Matt lives. I remember doing the Matt lives.

Yeah, like Spy versus Spy and all that shit. That was super good. Yeah, super good. Anyway. Alright, some new technology stuff that I just read about. So Russia announced that they're going to be releasing a combat suit for their soldiers. That can take a 50-cal bullet. What?

Yeah, dude. So they're getting closer and closer to Halo. Oh my God. These suits sound crazy. That apparently can support your body weight, give you extra strength. Come to the access filter. Is it like a full-on suit that you put over a lot?

Like a Halo, right? Like a Halo outfit. Yes, yes. It has its own water filtration system, its own air filtration system. It stores, it gives you extra strength, like an exoskeleton. And then if you shoot it, with a 50-cal bullet,

it doesn't penetrate it. Okay, so we've had this technology, I feel like for a long time, I've actually always wondered why we have it created like halo type looking soldier expensive. That hasn't stopped us from creating shit. Mass production. Yeah. If you're going to put a bunch of, you're going to put a bunch of

Marines on the ground and you're going to give them more suit. Okay. Well, not a bunch of Marines. How about 12 seals? Yeah, the seals. Well, they get to experiment with a lot. I remember you guys watch a lot of movies. We had 12 specialist trained super soldiers, bro

And we ate we build jets that cost like billion dollars, bro Like you can't tell me we can't build a couple halo suits for a couple seal teams I'm sure we can probably do already. We just don't announce it. Okay, so there was The one Navy seal that was, was on Joe Rogan, was talking about like they would literally try out a lot of these like developing ideas and would report back. And so they would actually, you know, would either make more of them or they would like, you know, try out like brand new technology, nobody else had access. Yeah, you have to have a combination of,

is it stealthy? Does it allow movement? Is it gonna be expensive? What's gonna power it? Yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, something that the seals go in. The big pros go in. And, you know, I remember one of the first things

that I thought was surprising to me learning about seals was I just always imagine like seals being like these massive big muscular dudes. And they're like 160 pounds. Right. And it makes sense when you think of like they're, they are trying to be stealthy. And they're like 160 pounds. Right. And it makes sense when you think of like they're, they are trying to be stealthy and they need stamina. Yeah. Right.

That makes sense. You would want this big meatball. Also though, I mean, which means you probably wouldn't want a big, bulky target. Yeah, big bulky suit that makes noises. We're going back in time and medieval times with arm. Totally. That's what it feels like.

But the robots that we're coming out with, they're going to, I mean, they're going to make that shit obsolete real quick. So as you have robots on the battlefield, forget about it. We're gonna need those suits to battle the robots though. Let's be honest. Well, I mean, or just create your own robots.

That's for sure gonna happen. I don't know if you guys see these drone planes that they're flying. Like you were on a plane. In fact, I was talking my son about this. We were talking about top gun. And the G's that you have to withstand. And I said, yeah, Justin got to 9 G's.

And he's like, what was that like? And I told him, you explain how it felt like every particle of your body was separating. Like you just being like complete squee- You know what? I actually a better way to describe it now is like trying to tell somebody this not too long ago. I was like, imagine if like King Kong just grabbed you

and then just squeezed you like a little like, you know, one of those dolls with your eyes pop out, you know, that's what felt. Yeah, so I told them that and then I said, you know, they have drones. They have drones that'll be hidden 15 years. I love how your analogy is like compared to to this doesn't exist.

You know what it's like? Have you ever thought about that? That's not what it's called. It's all the squeeze here. You know what it's like? If you've ever thought about that, you've got to squeeze heat. Everybody's seen it, Adam. Yeah, I picture it. I'm with you, Justin. I'm with you on that, Justin. Not one person can report.

I'm with that's like to feel. No, yeah, exactly, because it's like, well, you imagine it. Yeah, you imagine it. Yeah, you're trying to describe something, then. Well, you know, talking about technology and something that, oh, that shit is not gonna affect the daily person, but this will that I thought was really interesting

is the new minimum wage, and I'll tell you how I'm getting there, right, with the moving up to what, 22? Oh, for fast food restaurants. For fast food restaurants. California is passing right now. So this law, the more you look into it, the more this new bill, the crazier gets. So first off, it's gonna be be 20 hours an hour, minimum wage.

And it only applies to national chain restaurants that have over 100 locations. Right. So if you're a mom and pop store, then you go down to 15. If you're McDonald's or Burger King. So basically what they're doing is they're going to, they're adding additional pressure to speed up the automation process.

Right. Because that's exactly what's going to happen. They're already automated. Yeah, you're just going to, they're adding additional pressure to speed up the automation process. Right. Because that's exactly what's gonna happen. They're already automated. They're just gonna happen. Yeah, you're just gonna replace them and just have like one manager manage you much machines.

It's so dumb. It's 100% gonna help. It's not gonna help any but it's gonna put a ton of people out of work. And in hopes that they're gonna get paid for, you're gonna get paid a little bit more money for a short period of time. But all that's gonna do is force the hand

of McDonald's and Bert. You get these automated machines, your amortism or whatever, so you make payments. It's going to be cheaper than paying $22 an hour, and you got employees that'll do whatever you want. I mean, they were already moving in this direction already. I mean, you see now, you go to these fast food restaurants and a lot of them are getting rid of the cashier anyway. So the next is to get rid of the people that are flipping the burgers, and they've already

got the technology to do it. So it probably just didn't make sense financially. All they're doing is forcing the hand of these people. Well, what a lot of people don't realize is when you raise the floor for labor, so you take the bottom wrong and you raise it up higher legally or make it law. So you can't pay anyone less than X amount. You've made everybody whose skills are worth less than that, X amount, you've made everybody whose skills are worth less than that, unemployable. So meaning, if you're, you got a prison record, you don't have any experience.

And in addition to that, and in addition to that, you just increase asset prices and inflate everything else. So it's like, just the rich get richer in that situation, the poor get poorer in that situation. Absolutely. It's such a, it's, people have, it's so funny when people that vote for these these these things to get past sounds and it feels good

Ralph again. Yeah, cuz you know why cuz it can only stay only see 10 feet in front of them Yeah, it's just like oh right now I make $12 or $15 now or like this is awesome. I'm gonna get a raise to 22 Well, yeah, you moron, but you probably won't have a job fucking two years later and Your idea of saving up to buy a house that will all be inflated up even higher So it's like it just got further away from you. Yeah, and then what happens if you take that and really go extreme with it,

and a lot of places have done this in other countries is they'll pass laws protecting certain ways of being. So for example, let's say there's a town in a country that makes carpets and they're really nice, intricately made carpets, and then someone invents a machine that does it very well, so they can charge you less cheaper, much cheaper. The workers there then lobby together,

vote, get the government to ban the machines, so that's the way they can keep their jobs. Well, now you've reduced the ability to produce more efficiently and you're actually crushing the wealth and productivity of that particular area to save a few jobs or whatever. So there is a trade-off and the trade-off is you progress slower. So that's what they're gonna do with these particular laws.

Did you listen to the conversation that the Olin podcast had about this? I thought it was really interesting what Freeberg was talking about as far as, you know, initially they do lose their jobs inevitably But then that now it opens up the doors for somebody else to create Oh, you mean because machines are doing work. Yes. Oh, yeah. There's no by the way They've been saying for a long time that that markets and capitalism will lead to no jobs

Because of innovation, but that's that won't happen It's it creates more efficiency. And if there is this fictional future where machines do all the work for us, that's actually kind of utopia, right? So now nobody has to work. And so, no, that's not gonna happen. And if it did, we've reached now the pinnacle

of wealth creation and taking care of ourselves or nobody has to work, because machines do everything. Right, because the thousands of jobs have got to upkeep the machines. Yeah. Somebody in order to create all those and upkeep all those. This is the flawed.

Yeah. And the technology and you just need to be more skilled or skilled differently. Typically. Anyway, speaking of skills, NCI, so NCI is the online coaching or fitness coaching company we work with, has a crazy giveaway, which Doug just showed me. They're giving away a full scholarship. So you can enter the one a full scholarship and Doug, if you can click on the link, is there more than that? What's all coming with it? Oh, like everything. Like so many different courses and trainings that they're going to pay for.

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First question is from two persona favorita X100. Why is muscle soreness and calorie calories burned, not a good cue on effective exercises. What do you suggest we track? Oh, so that's good. Okay, so calories burned is okay to track total for the day, but really one of the reasons why we don't tell people to judge workouts by the calories burns. So in other words, what we often say is like the calories you burn during a workout,

that really doesn't, don't worry about that. In other words, that's not how you should rank your workouts because what people tend to do is say, oh, this is a higher calorie burning workout. Therefore, it's better for fat burning. The problem with that is it ignores the adaptations that the exercise induces. And it's the adaptations that make the biggest impact. For example, if you lift weights, you're not going to burn nearly as many calories as if you do lots of long distance running, long distance running burns far more calories. But when it comes to long-term fat loss, lifting weights is more effective because it tends to speed up the metabolism.

It builds muscle and it teaches your body to burn more calories on its own. So that's that. Now as far as soreness is concerned, I get where people can say, oh, because I'm sore, that means my workout was effective. But the truth is, soreness, if it tells you anything, it tells you you did too much. It really doesn't say more than that.

And in the best results I've ever had with myself and with clients through my two decades of training, was when I would get to a place where clients didn't get sore at all, or maybe like a tiny bit of soreness, where they'd have to search for the soreness, they'd have to stretch and kinda, all like I think I feel a little sore.

Feeling really sore, usually meant, or almost always meant, they did too much, and it would typically precede worse results or injury. I would make the same case for calories burn, as a metric for the workout. All of that means is you made the workout hard, and making it an extra effective. Yeah, making it an exercise hard

is not necessarily what makes it effective. So I think it's a terrible way. Now I do like and I do think that there's value in tracking the total calories you burn in a day. So you have an idea of your intake and what that balance should look like. Like, oh, today my body is burning a total of, you know, 3,000 calories. So I shouldn't eat more than 3,000 calories if my goal is to lose weight,

right? So I think understanding your total caloric burn in the day matters. And by the way, the workout will be such a small fraction of what the total burn number will be. Yeah, that's true. And also, even the best calorie trackers aren't sophisticated enough to really pick up your calorie metabolism is changing. They have maybe a 10% error rate with a lot of things. Sometimes more. That's a lot.

I mean, 10% is 200 to 300 calories. That can make or break. And if you build a little bit of muscle or just teach your body to burn more calories, you're not necessarily gonna pick that up That's a lot. I mean, 10% is 200-300 calories. That can make or break. And if you build a little bit of muscle or just teach your body to burn more calories, you're not necessarily going to pick that up with a calorie tracker. You will pick it up if you're tracking your calories consumed and notice that, oh, wow, I'm losing weight faster than before or I'm hungry or I'm stronger. So I can see it being a tool, but when people rest everything on it is when you start to get into problem.

Yeah, the soreness thing is flawed. I mean, if you're always going into like your next workout, soar, and it's gonna ampeed on your performance for one, but like it is an indication that you overstretched a bit. I mean, even if it's a novelty factor, right? So even if you're initially getting back into working out,

you're gonna have that phase where you're gonna go through. I'm sore because I'm reintroducing this type of stress to my body, but you really, now kind of looking back at that and having more maturity in the way that I approach fitness, it's like you really need to do even less than that coming back to be able to build upon that and actually get the desired adaptation instead of just getting that immediate feedback that I did work. That's all it indicates to me is I did a lot of work and I'm healing from that work.

Not necessarily what I need to be focused on is do I feel stronger, do I feel more energetic, do I feel a sense of progress going forward, not necessarily do I feel stronger? Do I feel more energetic? Do I feel a sense of progress going forward, not necessarily do I feel like that workout led to me feeling like I had to make it through, like I was I barreled through. So I'm measuring strength, technique, maybe circumference, maybe a picture. Like those are things that I'm using as an indicator of is my workouts and my programming effective and good.

Yeah, I'm gonna look at those things. Well, let me ask you guys to look at, you guys are very good at obviously you guys know what you're doing when it comes to running workouts. How harder, easy is it to write a workout that'll make someone sore? Easy. Does it require any skill whatsoever?

No. You don't need any workout. In fact, you don't need a program if you just want to get sore. Go to the gym. And you just want to burn a lot of calories. Yeah, go to the gym, move like crazy, do something that's really, really hard, stress the shit out of yourself. And I promise you, I promise you, you'll see a little bit of results and you'll plateau

real hard, either injure yourself or start to go backwards. If it was as easy as getting sore, every new fitness fad would solve obesity. It doesn't because that's not how it works. And worshiping the soreness and pain leads to a bad relationship with exercise anyway. Even if it were a great way to judge your workouts. Now, if you want to take all different kind of workouts and exercise types and rank them in terms

of effectiveness, rank them on the adaptations they induce in the body, not on the perceived challenge of doing them, not on the soreness or the calories burned while doing them. That means very little. And you said something about the calories burned during workout, how it's almost inconsequential. It is. You do an hour intense exercise, what are you gonna burn? 400 calories if you're lucky?

Yeah. 400 extra calories, so you work out three days a week. Okay, 1200 calories a week, do the math over the course of the week. What is that per day, right? That's almost nothing. You could eat, I could eat 1200 calories a 10 minutes. You can get up an extra hour earlier on the weekends,

go for a hike or a walk after all your meals, and it will end up adding up to be more than your hard workout is. So it's so much more effective to focus on that from your intake of food because it's a lot easier to manage it that way. Next question is from Jay Plyu. What are your opinions on sugar versus sugar substitutes? Okay, you know what's interesting about this is obviously sugar, it's carbohydrates, right?

So every gram of sugar is four calories. And so the theory is, well, if we cut sugar out of people's diets or have them replace their sugar consumption with a sugar substitute that has no calories, we should see weight loss, we should see improvements in health, we should see people solving some of their health issues because they've cut their calories, right? Now in controlled environments, when we take people and we have them count every calorie

and they replace sugar with sugar substitutes, they do cut their calories, they do see weight loss. But in other studies, real world studies, not where people are in a controlled environment where everything's counted. When people are just like, yeah, I have two sodas a day and then scientists say, cool, replace those with a diet soda and then we'll track and see what happens.

No weight loss. There's no success. It's actually terrible success, a track record in the real world. It hasn't done anything to help with the obesity epidemic at all. And lots of very obese people have lots of sugar substitutes. Why is that? Because it promotes behaviors that lead to overeating, it also eliminates a barrier between you and consumption, whereas when I'm going to go have a sugar filled soda, I know I'm about to consume 200 calories.

If it's a zero calorie soda, I tend to be like, oh cool, there's no consequence. Somebody keeps drinking it. And that perception of sweetness can change behaviors. And what it does it tends to make people eat more food. So my opinion is this, if you're someone who tracks everything all the time, then yeah, there could be some benefit there with body composition. But for everyone else, it's not gonna help you at all.

Replacing your soda with sugar-free soda and not tracking everything else, it just gonna result, and just again, the oldest study show this, it just results in needing more calories elsewhere. It doesn't help. Was that study that you bring up every now and then concerning that?

Was it two to 500 calorie increase? 500 per day. Oh, you're talking about heavily processed food consumption. Yeah, just in terms of it leading towards like behaviors in that direction and like the cravings. It's just like, I mean, in terms of like your, your bias perception of flavor and sweetness and taste, like you're still seeking that out.

If that's still being something that's introduced and a lot of times too, for me, the artificial version, it's so much sweeter. And it's like it almost, you know, anything else besides that, it seems like less than. And so I tend to gravitate more towards these sweet food items. Yeah, I probably, out of all of us, I probably use the most sugar substitutes. I mean, I'm drinking a zero calories, Zevia, right? Right, right.

So I probably utilize the most. And I think a lot of those behaviors came from my competing days of like tracking and like going, hey, I want something sweet and I can't have any calories. And so I'm gonna have something like that. But I'm not fooled by the behaviors that come with that. Like I'm very aware of that.

When I drink zero calorie drinks, I have a tendency to want to have two, three, four, and a day of it. And then I have cravings for other foods. I do notice those behaviors versus if I say, like there have been times where I don't have an option for a calorie free and I have to drink a regular Coke or a regular Pepsi and I'm craving a soda or a drink. And I'll have it and what I won't have an option for a calorie free and I have to drink a regular Coke or a regular Pepsi

and I'm craving a soda or a drink. And I'll have it and what I won't have a second or third or fourth because I'm very aware of the calorie content in there. So yeah, I don't have much of a dog in this fight as far as like in my four of them and I get some, I think I have more of a neutral relationship with them, but like everything else, I mean, I just shared recently on the podcast that I took a fast from sex and weed and food. And really for me, that part of that practice, and I do that with things like so today,

even though I don't announce it every time I do it, is just like, I never want to be dependent or feel like I have to have anything. And I do feel that those addictive properties from these zero calorie type drinks, it's very hard for me to kick the rock star thing. It's very hard for me to kick the Zevia drink every single day thing and I'm aware of it. And I'd never want anything to have control of me like that. So I do allow it to creep in my life, but I also pay attention to my own behaviors on

am I allowing myself to have one a day or one every other day or am I having two, three, four, five in a day and it easily can creep up to that. And I kind of get set these boundaries with myself of like, okay, I can enjoy those things. But if I start noticing where I'm wanting one, two, three, multiple in a day, like it's time for me to peel back Well, I remember when I first became a trainer So I grew up we almost never had soda and we definitely never had diet soda as a kid So I just didn't grow up with it right so I wasn't you know I had him here and there

We go eat you know if we go out to eat or something I'd have some but it was a big deal And then became a trainer and remember some strange behaviors from clients that I would see repeated like I'd have clients That would drink Diet Coke and they would drink a lot, like, I'd have clients that would drink Diet Coke and they would drink a lot of Diet Cokes. I'd have clients that didn't drink water. I had a lot of clients who were like, I don't like water, I don't like the taste of it. I was like, what?

You don't like the taste of water. No, what you're bringing up right now is a very good thing that I've connected to my own behaviors. So what I easily can do, I did this one day in Hawaii. I'm in Hawaii, so I kind of let the, yeah, I'm not restricting anything on this and enjoy. And what happens when I have that attitude is I easily can have carbonated zero calorie drinks

all day in no fucking water. And then I get a headache, and I go, and I go, oh shit, I haven't had just water today at all. Well, I remember, and I would have clients say things like, I don't like the taste of regular soda. I like sugar-free better. And then I did research and I'm like, oh, it's sweeter, it hits the sweet receptors

a little differently, it can make actual sugar taste more bland. That's interesting. And I also remember using sugar-free substitutes in meal plans. This is early in the day, back in the day, when I create clients meal plans, where I try and tell them, here just replace your sodas with this, so this will make you lose weight and never work.

Did you guys ever have clients? Besides bodybuilders and competitors, it would track every single thing from out. That's it, but are the only people that I ever had success utilizing things that were sweetened with the artificial sweeten? Yeah, I mean, otherwise, do you get any clients where like,

oh my God, this was a game changer, it totally helped me lose weight. All I need to do was switch the diet soda. Yeah, lost all this weight. No, never. No, so many addicted to Diet Coke though. I wonder, like in terms of that product, you know, for them, like if it, if it at any time like,

met the same amount of revenue they're bringing in from just regular Coke because it was like, so I would love to see that stat. So I prefer Diet Coke. You'll never catch me drinking a regular Coke. I feel like they probably kept a little bit of the cookily formula still in there. I thought it was so effective. I didn't sell any. I would actually, I would love to.

I bet they do. That's a great stat to pull up, Dive. I would love to see Diet Coke versus Coke as far as sales. Yeah, revenue is concerned. I bet Diet Coke rivals it. It's over taken. Classic Coke. Over ticket.

Wow. Well, what it is is you have a combination of things that are making this just the perfect storm. One, you have this signal that says, no calories, no sugars. So you've got that. Yeah. Number two, Coke has caffeine in it. Caffeine's got addictive properties.

Where do you know that? So that's there. And number three, it has caffeine in it. Caffeine's got addictive properties, where do you know that? So that's there. And number three, it's hyper-palatable. And diet Coke is sweeter than regular Coke. Aspartane, which is the sweetener they use, is so much sweeter than normal sugar. They use a tiny, tiny amount. And even the amount that they use,

powerful. It hits the sweet receptors, the receptors that perceive sweetness harder, which is why people who love diet sodas feel, like they don't like the taste of regular soda, which I used to think was really weird when I was a kid. This was like the joke, I work in a restaurant and you know, you get this group of like big people coming in, ordering like every fried food and like disgusting, you know, like huge

calorie bomb and then like, oh, but diet coke. Yeah, I used to say. Why? Like, honestly, like, what are we doing? It's because they like, oh, but diet coke. Yeah, I usually. Why? Like, honestly, like, what are we doing here? It's because they like it better, actually. I mean, that's, I, if I, if I were to, even though I can't remember the last time, I'd just find it though as a calorie thing.

Yeah, that's too hilarious. That's afterwards. Yeah. The driving factor was the taste. Yeah. Yeah, so the problem is, I prefer it. So you would, someone would say that about me, like, you'd see me go through, even though,

yeah, I've been through a McDonald's drive-through in decades through, even though you've been through a McDonald's drive-through in decades, but if I were to go through a McDonald's drive-through, I would be a die-cook. I would ask for. They sell more, I mean, Doug, even pull out, I, so really what this is, and this is just really occurring to me, this is a perfect example of the divorce

between behaviors and the mechanistic aspects of obesity. So we look at obesity, we owe too many calories. Let's just cut the calories and give everybody the other stuff that comes along with the calories and we should solve the problem. You didn't solve the problem. They're still consuming something that's hyper sweet and encouraging behaviors that lead to obesity.

And that's why it has done nothing to solve the obesity epidemic. Next question is from Seth Bruce 96. What stabilizer muscle exercises do you recommend to help arms stop shaking when bench pressing? Oh man. So do you guys, whenever you guys take a, this doesn't happen,

shoulder, this is more shoulder than it is arm. It is, but this hasn't happened to me in a long time, but as a kid, when I would have to take breaks from workouts, I'd remember I go back to this. This is because you never take it. This happens to me in a long time, but as a kid, when I would have to take breaks from workouts, I'd remember I go back to this. This is because you never take breaks. This happens to me all the time. Yeah.

Yeah. You never take breaks ever. Well, this happens to me all the time. If I take shaky, right? Yeah, if I take two weeks off of lifting and I come back to like a movement like interest, oh yeah, the first day is, so it's very normal to feel this.

For someone like you who never miss a system, you have to go back to your teenage years, but that's happens to me all the time. Whenever I fall off for two weeks and I haven't trained consistently, I go back and yeah, it's your CNS, and that's super normal. And it's like, I mean, can you do some stuff to like help stay, and I said shoulders, right?

It's not your arms, it's your shoulders staying in position and staying in that fixed position, stabilizing while the arms, but the arms are shaking, but they're shaking because the shoulders are trying to get stabilized. So you could do some primers. Yeah, priming the shoulders and the shoulder girdle really well, that probably would mitigate some of that,

but part of it's just gonna happen. Yeah, and you'll adapt quickly. And the priming, so good example is this, if you've ever experienced this, you know that after the first or second set, the shaking is going away. All of a sudden the rep becomes smooth. And it is, it's the CNS.

The CNS has to organize the muscles and fire them in smooth, efficient ways. And when you don't train for a while or you're just getting started, it has to learn this. The CNSS to learn how to fire muscles properly while moving this weight in this particular way, keeping things smooth and efficient. And so it feels like your muscles are laughing almost

or they're kind of shaky. And you see this more common with some exercises than others, the best way to get rid of it is to practice the exercise often and to slow down the reps. It's really the only way to do it. And if you wanna get rid of it in that same workout, it usually takes a set or two. As the muscles, as you're seeing, that's the DAPS at fast.

It adapts that fast to where within the same workout, you should be able to get everything to push a little. It's so funny because, for example, I know Ben Paul, he's a really strong guy, right? And he's been doing every kind of powerlifting movement, like loaded, you know, not doing like no unilateral stuff. And then obviously it went to like lunges for instance. Yeah, you like to, yeah, but it just happens to the best of us as my point. To where you like you introduce something

that's a little bit different and the body has to react completely to it and in different fashions can take that bit of time for you to really acclimate to that. No, that's a great analogy or example because in utilato movements, it requires more stabilizer muscles because you don't have the other arm or other leg to stabilize. So yeah, I think that's a great example.

And that's what's happening right now and you just gave a good example of someone who was unbelievably conditioned, trained, strong, or shit. But all he had to do was go from squatting 600, 700 pounds, which you can do to doing a bodyweight lunge. And he was shaky. And it's not because he's weak. It's just that those stabilizer muscles required

to stabilize in a lunge position is very different than being able to squat bilaterally. It's not a muscle thing, it's a CNS thing. I remember years ago, I don't never forget this, there was this body builder, big guy, I don't know how much he weighed, but if I had to gas, he's probably 240 pounds shredded big dude. And then there was a weight lifter,

it was a small guy about 150 pounds. And the weight lifter was overhead pressing. I don't remember what the weight was, but it was a lot of weight to the point where all of us were kind of impressed. We were standing overhead press, right? Everybody was really impressed. The bodybuilder goes over to try it out, and the bodybuilder could lift the same weight, but it didn't look the same.

He looked shaky, and you could tell he was kind of muscling it and not really stable. Then afterwards, they were talking, and he's like, yeah, I'm just, I'm not used to that movement. The weight lifter is like, I practice this all the time. It's part of my lifts. The bodybuilder's like, I do this seated. I do this with dumbbells. I get pumps of my muscles. And it's just, the bodybuilder had bigger, stronger muscles.

In the sense that those muscles probably contracted harder than that 150 pound weightlifter, but they couldn't organize the same way. They couldn't fire with the same efficiency. And that's why he had trouble lifting the same way. They couldn't fire with the same efficiency and that's why he had trouble lifting the same way. Next question is from Koni Chua. What are each of your most controversial health and wellness opinions? I like this question. Yeah. So the first one that pops into my mind. I'm controversial. Yeah, that I would say is controversial, that I would still promote, or that I'm personally a fan of, is fasted cardio in the morning.

And we've got, we've seen all the research and we know that if- That's like a pendulum with the opinions on that, right? It is. And we know that it does not make a difference whether you're fed or not fed, but this, and remember, when we look at those studies, these studies are not measuring

behaviors. It's the mechanistic part. Yeah. And if you were like, oh, if calories are controlled and the person does fasted versus fed cardio, then it's all the same. That's the argument. But we talk about this a lot on the show about that you can't take the behavioral part out of an equation in my opinion.

It's in fact, it is as important, if not more important. It's the most important thing. And so, and being somebody who went through this process of never being a fasted cardio person for half of my training career and never even caring about it or thinking about it because I didn't care about getting shredded or bodybuilding and then also when I get into the bodybuilding world and anybody who's been in the bodybuilding world knows that like that is a staple thing to do is to do fasted cardio.

So for the first time in my life that was introduced, now my biggest takeaway because I understood the science going into it. I had already listened to Lane Norton's shit all over it for years before and stuff like that before I even decided to introduce it. What I found was if I wanted to do an hour of fasted cardio, that meant that I had to start

my day, an hour earlier, every single day that I was going to do that. That got me out of bed and moving earlier. And also made me extend out the time that I would have to eat. That extended period of time and the additional hour of getting up every day ended up adding into these higher calorie day burns consistently than if I wouldn't have not done it. Now you could make the case, well you could just woke up an hour earlier and then done your cardio fed later on.

Well yeah, the truth is I wouldn't do it. I knew I wouldn't do it. So me having this routine of I'm not going to eat, I'm going to get up as early as I can and the very first thing I'm going to do is go do cardio. It promoted these longer days more consistently for me. And I had tremendous success with it. Even though I understand the science, doesn't support it being better than fat cardio. So I know, not only agree with you, I'm going to add to that, that I think that the behavior

aspects for the average person who doesn't compete and doesn't think of it the way you do, they still benefit because it frames their day with fitness. And studies show this, when people exercise regularly, they tend to, a lot of people tend to also pay attention to their food, they also tend to pay attention to the rest of the day. So if you start your day with exercise, it's like you're starting your day off on the right foot.

I start out my workout, okay now, now some people can use it as an excuse to overeat, but when they look at long-term studies, people do this consistently, not the people who do it for like a couple months and stop. People do this consistently, what they find is when people start their day off with a practice like exercise that they tend to eat better,

throughout the day, they tend to have better, make better choices, and when they don't, they tend to make worse choices. Because it frames a day. I'll add to that. So another thing that I made a connection, better, throughout the day, they tend to have better, make better choices. And when they don't, they tend to make worse choices. Because it frames the day. I'll add to that. So another thing that I made a connection, and of course, not everybody's going to be like me, but I do, I found this common with a lot of people was that I would wake up,

I had figured out my day to get ready to go to work and do my normal team down to the minute on what time I alarm. And I wanted, I was going gonna sleep as long as I could to get the shower, brush the teeth, get dressed, do things, drive to work with that. When I had to do this whole hour before, and now I'm up way before I needed to, it gave me time to organize my thoughts

on what I was going to eat. Where if I didn't do that, I would eat whatever was closest, or drive in somewhere and grab something really quick on the go because it was the most time efficient thing for me. It wasn't the best thing for me. Or when I was walking on a treadmill, fasted, I was thinking about,

what am I gonna, when I get home, what can I make myself? Or what, or I would have it prepared ahead of time because I've got this extra hour that I'm up earlier. So I noticed that a lot of these behaviors around my morning routine and eating correctly. And like you said, started like, it made a big difference. So even though I'm very familiar with the science that supports, you know, fasted versus or non-fasted in the, it's, it's moot as far as like it being more

beneficial, that is not including the behavioral aspect. And I see lots of benefits. Agreed. So that, no actually I'm not gonna add that, but I think for mine, I would, I guess it's not really that controversial, I guess it's controversial, right? To basically, you're only as strong as what you can live without any aided support.

There you go. Yeah. That's just, I mean, to me, that's, I guess there's some controversy because, you know, you can wear belts and you can wear wrist wraps and you can wear like shirts and things to be able to lift weight and like boost your ego. But at the end of the day, if you're just picking something up, like you're only as strong as what you've built in terms of your built. I don't think that's controversial. I think that's uncommon.

I think that's a fair way to, because I think that's not a common way of thinking anymore. I mean, it's a truth. No, it is a truth. That's why it's not controversial. It's not controversial, because it's a fact. If you judge your strength, you don't wanna hear that, because my point is out.

Yeah, I think if you judge your strength by how much you can lift in the real world, like normal, then it's 100% true, right? If you require, if you need to have knee wraps and wrist wraps and a belt to lift your 400 pounds, and then you're in the real world, well, you can't lift 400 pounds. It's just not, it's just, you can't do it.

So I totally get it. Unless somebody judges are strengthened by what they can lift with those aids. So then, then, then, competition. Yeah, then it makes sense or whatever, but no, that's, I, that's a problem with it, but that's just sort of my thing. Yeah. Well, at the end of the day, you're doing this for improving the quality of your life, giving you more strength, stability, performance, mobility for everyday life. So there's carryover, right? If you use wrist straps and then you go in the real world, just still gonna have some carryover,

but it's not a hundred percent carryover, or not as much carryover as when you don't use those things. So I think that I agree with that. All right, so mine is that this push to get people plant-based is gonna cause more health problems and be worse for the environment than allowing people to be in omnivorous diet. That's mine right now. I agree.

That is controversial. And here's why. Here's why. That's good one. There's a couple of reasons why. One is we look at the effects on the climate in a vacuum. So I'll use another example, right? We just had a pandemic and COVID was spreading.

And we said, if we locked everybody down, we're going to get this many less infections and save this many lives, which is true But what we didn't do is look at the big picture and say oh wait We're gonna lose more lives because of more depression more anxiety more suicide more drug overdoses Economic productivity is gonna go down every time it goes down 2% or 3% X amount more people die because there's people that are on that line of poverty Where if it goes down a little bit if you're wealthy or middle class you're not a big deal, you know cancel a couple Streaming subscriptions, but if you're like barely making ends meet that could be life or death. I can't go to the doctor That kind of stuff. So in this particular case

That's what we end up doing with this particular argument because Animals are incredible at this particular argument because animals are incredible at capturing at eating, you know, they'll eat plants, poop it out, goes at, you know, create fertilizer, create more grasslands, that kind of stuff. Not only that, but you see in studies often when the average person, and there wasn't one that just came out, in fact, Max Lugavir, posted this, when you tell the average person, hey, or you convince them, or you scare them and say, hey, just go plant base, it's much better.

What they end up doing is end up just eating more heavily processed foods. Their diet gets worse because the very few whole foods that they ate were animal-based. Like, if you look at the average American diet, 60, 70% of its processed. The 30% that's not processed is milk, eggs, and meat. So you scare them away from that. It's not like they're gonna go and all of a sudden have this wonderfully planned, executed plant-based whole food diet.

They're just gonna go eat- No, they just eliminate some meats. Yeah, they just eliminate it. So you see more nutrient deficiencies, you'll see more illness, less productivity. And here's my point with that when it comes to the climate. The most successful thing that we have in the world to solve problems is human ingenuity.

You're gonna reduce mass productivity, you're gonna increase illness across the board. We don't know what the ramifications of that are with productivity and innovation. We don't know that. Not to mention, just gonna make people sicker and fatter by pushing them in this direction. So this push and people saying it's better for people's health

is better. Bullshit, it's not. You're going to need more planning, you're going to need more. And you tell you expect the average person to plan, first off plan an omnivore diet really well. Good luck. Now tell them to eliminate the only whole natural foods they eat. The most nutritious food, the most nutrient-death foods, you're going to make their health much worse, you'll make obesity worse, you'll increase nutrient deficiencies, and the studies support this. They do. And don't compare people who are plant-based, who are health conscious to the average person, compare the average person to the average person, one of them eating omnivore, one of them

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