Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 194: Pre-workout caffeine dosage, arginine, photographic memory, famous dinner guests & MORE

Episode Date: December 2, 2015

As usual, a lot of great questions this week from the Mind Pump Posse! This week's Q&A included questions about the best caffeine dosage for pre-workout, writing down client activity while training, why Sal knows so many studies, glucose disposal agents, arginine and dinner with famous guests. Keep the questions coming! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpradio.com

Kipa-chikah-hah, kipa-chah-hah! Beautiful, Sam. What was that? I don't know. How could we not see any of Justin when he texts? Huh? Why don't you see any of Justin when he texts messages? He's texting his wife and he's got kids.

No. Oh, that's a fuck, damn. I'm not. That was a client wondering, you know, schedule wise, what's going on there. He's working, he's working. Yeah, I was sexting. What's up, Doug?

What's up, Doug? Well, we have our weekly review context. Boom! Oh, we have our weekly review content. Boom! Oh, we got some weeners. But yeah, but unfortunately I have some sad news here. What? We only got five reviews.

Five reviews. Hold on a second. We need to have a conversation with our listeners. I do. Yeah, just five reviews in this last week. Sounds like you guys are being a bunch of fat asses. You need to talk into stuff in your faces with stuffing and pie. How are we gonna start?

How's the movement gonna start? If we're not getting shit tons of reviews, my friends. Grab your friend's phone and write one in. We need wheels, everybody. That's right. All right, so what, so what? We're not giving anything away. No, we promised one t-shirt a week.

Oh, that's right, we got to go. Oh, but you know what, you've been over. Cause we have a taggerting. Yeah, we've been over delivering every week. Yeah, every week. So you know what, you've been over. Because we haven't�ered yet. Yeah, we've been over delivering every week. Yeah, every week. So, you know what? Fuck them, bro. Because we just want to say.

We do. Just one shirt. Just one. But here's the thing. We got two really, really good reviews. And here's what I'm thinking. Should we read? If I give out two shirts and there were only five reviews,

just look at the odds there. So leave a review and you'll probably get a shirt. Well, maybe, I mean, you just have very good chance. Great. Well, especially if you leave a really good review. That's it. The key is Doug's pretty persuaded by these good reviews. I am. I'm a sucker for a good review. You can tell they thought about it and they didn't just copy somebody else's and then just, you know, tell you plagiarize it and put it in as their own. Yeah, the ones that are the winners will do that.

I think someone did do that. Did they? Someone did plagiarize it? Yeah, unfortunately, someone who you are. Yeah, don't be copying people. Yeah, we do read every week. Come on man. We still blazing this.

You know what though, I appreciate it. We just can't get you a shirt. Yeah, yeah, not me. We love it. Hey, still got said play jurized or not. We do love a review. It is It is supporting us. Yeah, supportive. We thank you for that. I see the way you're supporting us But we're gonna backped a little bit so who gets the two shirts all right. We got Nick T 2006 and Games and gains Oh, yeah, games and games.

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Yeah, you're I'm starving so I'm I'm trying to set up. How can you be starving? You try to make sure wifey's got food for me I get home do you ate is you ate enough to feed if you think about he's always eating Yeah, when he's here he's eating. Yeah, and I'm not today. It's not a pillow me now He's text and I'm watching you guys nice text. I just gotta make sure my food is right Put it in a rough make I'm gonna count it already. You've I've watched you type like 15 words. How many words do you need to I want a lot of food, bro? Oh, you gotta be like make me food.

Done. That's not how you brought. That is a good. That is a good very well. That's all I'm in. Honey, how's your day? Oh, you got to do the whole. Yeah, of course.

She just can't go right into it. Oh, you know, I'm gonna go pinch me some salad. When I get home, this is what does it work like that? You know, some staking potatoes by the time I get there. You know what I like to see when I come home? I should be like, um, me and no, food on the table. Boom. I get home. I shit with my girl having a bags, bro. Here you go, dude. I packed something for you.

I made something for you. Enjoy it as you leave. You know, it's funny. I joke around with my wife like that all the time. I'll do this in front of people on purpose. Okay, we'll both laugh about it. But I'll act like really showvinist. Like we'll be with friends and I'll be like, did I say you could talk?

And then, but we'll laugh, because she's got such a good sense of humor. Because she knows and I know. What's it does everybody else in this like awkward spot? Like, oh, he's a dick. Cause I'm like a big dude and she's real small.. Everybody's like, oh my god, he's so mean. But I know when she knows that she would be the one to kill me in the sleep. So it's okay.

We she knows I'm joking. Women, don't kill me. Women poison. So, uh, you know what I watched last night? porn. No. I'm not the porn guy you are. I watched, so I always, I was in a, um,

first of all, I watched, uh, that YouTube video, I sent you guys, and then it got me in a dog. I was in a, um, first of all, I'm not the porn guy you are. I watched, so I was in a, first of all, I watched that YouTube video. I sent you guys and then it got me in a documentary. Oh, the one on Ray Kurzweil. Yeah. He the futurist. Yes.

He predicts, I believe in sometime year 2040 that we will reach a technological singularity. Yeah, it's pretty dope. Below your fucking brain. And you know what's funny? When he breaks down, definitely gonna happen. Oh, no, when he breaks down, and I mean, because he's got, he's got cyborgs. He's got graphs that go back forever, and he shows the curve,

and it makes so much sense when he talks about it, when he talks about like technology, it's not linear. You know, it's compounding, right? So it's, you know, it's 4, 8, 16, 32, 64. Well, Moore's Law, Moore's Law actually calculated that the, I forgot what it was, like the processing speed would double every, whatever years. Five, 15 years?

I don't remember, but it's extremely accurate. And now we're getting the point where we're being limited by the actual size of the molecules in silicone and stuff like that for the chips. Boom, quantum computing is now becoming, it's going to become a reality. Actually, they actually were able to have, they were actually able to communicate information between two entangled electrons, I believe, or I think they use something else, which is like step, it's like another step closer to Quantum computing which will make regular computers look retarded. Yeah, like they will make regular computers look like they know nothing the apple to eat

Yeah, it'll be You know, it's cool. This YouTube was from 2012. Yeah, and the stuff he's talking about I'm like is the step that we were supposed to be hitting right now And we he wants right on point with everything. He wants it, he embraces it. And so here's what the technological singularity is. Basically, it's when machines or computers are smart enough and self-aware enough

to invent things smarter than themselves. Yeah. So once that happens, then all of a sudden, you'll get this cascading effect where each successive generation will invent something smarter than self, and it happens faster, faster, faster, faster. It fits you both to the roof. And it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go,

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go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go, it integrate with these machines and expand and extend our abilities with them. The same way a car extends our ability to travel will need to integrate with these computers to extend our expand our ability to think, communicate and connect. But this poses crazy problems for mankind and solutions. But I see both, right? We know because we just don't fucking know. Well, I think from on a smaller scale of the average entrepreneur who's, I think listening to someone like this,

if you're listening and you're an entrepreneur, I mean, it's definitely worth looking into. Because my entrepreneur mind's spinning while I'm watching that, I'm going like, God, how often do we get so caught up in, you come up with this clever idea, with this invention or business model or concept that you have that's a necessity

or a need that we have right now. And what's when you listen to when you listen to the video or you listen to them talk or do a speech or lecture, you can't help but think like, wow, that's the way we think right now. But soon it's like you just said, it's going to be moving so fast. You have to be thinking, you know, in future because what you're building, your current business, as cool as it sounds or maybe helping things now, it's going to be obsolete within like five years because we'll be so beyond that technology

already. Well, dude, we don't, it's already happened so quickly. Yeah. I mean, let me give you an example. A cell phone, five years ago, say a cell phone's a per... Compare a cell phone five years ago to one today. It's like comparing a rock to a frickin' rocket ship. I mean, it's completely different, right?

Five years. Five years in power. Five years in power in your phone in comparison to just a computer. Oh, no. Oh, are you kidding me? The computer, my phone is powerful, is all the computing power that it took

to put the amount on the moon. It's just on my phone. All the computers combined. I mean, this is how quickly things are moving. A Walkman, a Sony Walkman in 1970, whatever, 78, I think it came out, okay? This is not adjusted for inflation. The actual cost of a Walkman was something like $300

back then. Adjusted for inflation, that'd be like $600 a day, but $300 for a Walkman in the 70s. Yeah. You could, I could probably get a free walk. I could probably get a free cassette player now. People will give me free P3 players if I go sign up for, you know, food delivery or something like that. That's how cheap and effective this technology has gotten in such a short period of time.

And think about mankind. We've been on Earth for how long, you know, if you just go back like six generations, I mean, go back, go back a hundred years, go back a hundred years and compare everything from vehicles to how we communicate, how we travel, how we everything that we do and look at the growth and then just take a snapshot of the last 20 years and Compare the growth from a hundred to 80 years, right to now the last 20 years like it's so much more exponential in these last 20 years Then that whole 80 years before that it's ridiculous Well, I think by this way the the middle the middle ages the dark ages were like 10 generations ago

Like not there wasn't that long ago that we were in the dark ages. You know what I'm saying? That's insane to think about that. It's silly, it's crazy. Think about how, think about the minds of humans and how much they've changed in such a short period of time. Well, I just think about in the 19th,

it wasn't that long ago that people were segregated. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't that long ago that women couldn't vote. All these like, it wasn't that long ago. Yeah. Right. And so that's how quickly things evolve and change. And so the technological singularity, will be interesting. Oh, it's totally going to happen. It's feasible. Yeah, I've been watching, I don't know if you guys have heard of this show, The Nick. It's a great, great, great show. It's about basically these surgeons back in the 1900s, like 1901. And this is in New York and they worked at this hospital called the Nicarbocker Hospital or whatever. And the whole thing is that, you know, everybody

was trying to compete as far as like who had, you know, the best ideas for procedures and whatnot. And so there was these competing hospitals. And so they wanted to be known as the hospital with all the greatest technology. And so they show this progression. Somebody has like an invent the vacuum cleaner. And then all of a sudden, they see how to utilize that in surgery where they can suck blood out

as they're cutting open. Like all these little tiny things, in surgery where they can suck blood out, you know, as they're cutting open, like, they, all these little tiny things, like the X-ray, like, photograph was invented. And then they realized, oh my God, you know, the implications of being able to see bone structure before we go cut this person up. And it's just like, it's very fascinating

because, you know, they killed a lot of people before they like, mastered a lot of these procedures. And it was dirty work, but like if we didn't have them as the cornerstone of where we are today in our medical advancements, it needed that to catapult the explosion where we are today, right?

Oh, he's crazy now. He got into talking about the genes too and how we can manipulate our genes. Like it was pretty dope to listen to him explain what we couldn't do 10 years ago, what we can do now with. Well, here's some immediate things that I think about. So these are some immediate challenges.

Besides the big esoteric ones, the unknowns. Think about this right now. Think about a machine that is indistinguishable from a human, right? Think about what that'll do to society. What you wanna bang them. That's exactly, so I'm talking, seriously. People are, we talk about,

for while there was, interracial marriage was a big thing and gay marriage. It will be, that might be the next challenge. We gotta give these machines rights and be able to mate with them. And you know, you roll your eyes. You roll your eyes, but there's gonna be a lot of questions and you know, that come up or does the count is cheating?

Right. Right. Technology's not area. We'll think a little bit, you know, it's an old model, honey. We'll think about this old model. Think about this. It's got like little russies.

It's got a sh- You know, wrinkly. Well, think about it this way. Skin texture is not that easy. You don't even know how to deal with it. Every program feeling is just- It doesn't even, it doesn't even mown back. Well, you also get the weird, the weird degenerates out there

who might want a robot to kill or might want a robot to rape or might want a, you know or might want, you know, a child robot or might want to. Why do there's so many assholes that have ideas? I'm surrounded by assholes. These are challenge, these are going to be some strange challenges. How do you get your assholes? Yeah.

That is the future. All right, I think it's time for, what's that sound in the background? Qua! Qua! It's the quabber! Qua! Qua! It's the quabber! Qua! Qua time! Is it qua time?

It is qua time. All right, Doug. Throw him at us. Oh yeah, we got a lot of them today. Okay. We got any in skip asking about the best dosage of caffeine for pre-workout. Hmm.

Well, that would depend on each person, because some people are going to be, I mean, if you've never done it, I would start with a very, very low minimum dose, like 25 milligrams. If you're a maniac and you snort caffeine and drink coffee and take speed stacks of stuff, you may take like 300, 400 milligrams. I mean, there's a very wide range of your tolerance. Yeah, caffeine is an interesting, caffeine is an interesting drug. And it is a drug, and it is addictive.

It's got classic withdrawal symptoms. Classic, your body does acclimate to it, and you need more and more caffeine in order to give you the same effect as before. So it is a classic drug. It's also got incredible benefits. It's a Neutropic, Improves Cognitive Function. It can enhance fat loss, improve athletic performance.

It's an antidepressant. But because it's a drug and because the body starts to adapt to it, you'll find that you'll get diminishing returns and over time actually gets a lot of, you'll get more than negatives in the positives. So caffeine should be treated very strategically. So before I say a dosage, Adam was correct. It really depends on the positives. So caffeine should be treated very strategically. So before I say a dosage, animal's correct, it really depends on the person. 100 milligrams for me right now is fucking great.

Some people 100 milligrams, it wouldn't even, they would probably put them to sleep. You have to kind of figure that out for yourself. But I would say if you can't get a good strong buzz with 200 milligrams of caffeine, you need to take a break. You need to take a break off of caffeine and chill yourself out a little bit.

Let your receptors open up. Let your bodies... Yeah, allow your body to start producing more dopamine and norepinephrine and epinephrine again. Because at that point, what happens when you have too much caffeine all the time for long periods of time, you need caffeine to be normal.

You no longer get the buzz off, it just makes you normal. Oh, and especially, I mean, having to like focus on, I need this right before my workout. You're already like prioritizing that as far as like how your body's gonna respond going into the workout. So it's like you condition yourself to always need that sort of stimulant. Yep. And then you're setting yourself up for that forever. Yeah. My goal is to be able to get a really good strong smooth buzz from 100 milligrams caffeine. What ends up happening is if I stick with it too long, then it goes from 100 to 200. And then 200 no longer really does it for me. And I need to up it from there. And at that that point I typically back off and take some time off which I did recently I took about three weeks off of no caffeine

And now I'm doing 100 milligrams every few days So you've got to be smart about caffeine now if you look at the pre-workout formulas that are out in the market right now a lot of the crazy ones the hardcore ones They'll have over 300 milligrams of caffeine, plus other stimulants. Which I think is- And that's because everybody's so cracked out already. Yeah, and I think it's so important, it's so funny when I hear this all the time, like guys like, oh, you gotta try this one.

Oh, dude, you gotta try this one. It's like, Jack's 5,000. Yeah, everybody is like, they think they found the best pre workout because there's fucks them up the most, right? Or there's makes them the most stimulated. And that's all that is. Yeah. That's all that is, that's all it is is,

which one is loaded with the most stimulants and the most caffeine that makes you feel that way. It is not the most effective one. What's the most effective? Well, here's the progression. I saw dragons grow. It's crazy. Here's the progression.

People will start with a very basic, clean pre-workout. That's got maybe 150 to 200 milligrams caffeine. Okay, they'll start with that. They'll take that for a while. Then they'll be like, this doesn't really work for me anymore. Then they'll go to the more hardcore version. That's got more caffeine. Oh, oh, I feel this one again.

They start taking that one. Then that one doesn't work anymore. Then they go to the real hardcore shit. Then they start combining fat burners with it. This is the progression of people in the gym. I know lots of people that do this. And then they're taking all the shit and they don't really get anything out of it. And they just start to get the negatives like the cold sweats and the cortisol release. It'll make your cortisol go through the

roof and you'll end up burning muscle. Heart palpitations all kinds of different things. All you got to do is go off. Go off for a while. Go back on. Boom. caffeine's freaking a wonder drug again. That's all you got to do is go off, go off for a while, go back on, boom, caffeine's freaking a wonder drug again. That's all you got to do. I wouldn't take anything more than that. I would say, like I said, if you can't get a good buzz off of around 200 milligrams of caffeine, you should probably lay off a little bit for one.

That's a very good example. The next question is from Ross McHale. He asks, when you're training clients, do you write down everything that they do? Not anymore. Never. Yeah. No, it's a very individualized experience.

We should explain that, because we sound like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was preface that, but you can't say not anymore, because I did that like religiously when I was first starting, because my mind had to figure out

what was most effective, most efficient. I had to trial and error, certain exercises that work with certain people, really established my own thought process as far as like almost a diagnosis of the person as far as like identifying imbalance, like how I'm going to structure that so it's not so boring, you know, but then how am I going to actually, you know, make

it entertaining on some level as I'm taking them through the workout? Man, just stressed yourself, bro, it was crazy though. Well, that's why I had to do that. Like I was so laser focused on that and then I had my little sheet and I'm like, dude, we're going to do this. And then you get out there and you're hit with like way more variables. Yeah. And you're like, oh no.

And so then you just get sort of flustered. But everything starts to work out once you understand your thought process and then how do you start working more on thinking about things on your feet? So I don't know if this is a trainer who's asking this. If this is a trainer who's asking this, you know, for almost 10 years of my career, I trained trainers and this was definitely a topic that I had to talk to you.

So I'll tell you first and foremost, if you're at all within your first couple of years, I highly recommend that you write your workouts out and you document stuff. And I'll tell you that when you do that, you will have your workouts aren't necessarily gonna be more effective than someone else, but they're gonna be like Justin said,

they're gonna be more entertaining, they're gonna be the flow of them will be better, you'll address maybe the muscle groups or the things you're trying to address. Now, that being said that I strongly stand behind that, that's how you should do it. I also do not write down my workouts. Now, there's also a difference between the trainers that I used to train and develop to

become great trainers one day and the two other men that are sitting in this room with me. These guys have been doing this for almost 15 years plus or more in Salis case. Yeah, the confidence level that we have with the client is so different than what the average trainer is. You're still in that phase if you're just kind of starting for your first couple of years of learning a lot yourself

and understanding how the body works and this and that. So having some sort of a foundation and something written down is a nice thing. It's nice because then you don't have to worry about thinking off of you. These guys, any client can throw any question at you in the middle of a session and it's not going to throw any of us off right now because we've fucking heard it all right. Well, I think the process of them writing it down, why it's more important is because it gets them pre-thinking about it.

That's really the benefit. So that's where they're mentally getting prepared themselves more than they're actually going to follow it. Right. Right. So when they get into the workout, like they can fall back on, well, I thought about this and I thought about that as far as the structure of what I wanted to be. Now how do I adapt to that?

Right. But yeah, like that's a solid right there. Well, it's exactly. You can progress it or regress it to be now. How do I adapt to that? Right. But yeah, like, No, that's a, that's solid right there. Yeah. Well, it's exactly, you can progress it or regress it a lot easier. If you knew you were planning on going over and doing it with the squat rack, everyone's on the squat rack, which you, that was your first movement is squat.

The first thing is an advanced trainer. Are you the third thing I thought of? Well, exactly. So I'm going to be a little different than what you guys are saying. I think, here's the drawback to writing everything down when you train people. I've seen this, trainers over and over again,

is they lose the ability to observe what's going on during the workout. Because they're doing the exercise, they're writing stuff down, they're back and forth, they're not connecting with their client, they're not having good conversation between sets, which is important for a lot of people. We're talking about average people, again,

we're not talking about super advanced athletes. They're a little preoccupied with what they're writing down. They're not watching particular deviations. And then sometimes they get so set in their routine that they don't go off of it when they notice like, oh, it looks like we have a weakness in your gluteus medius. Let's do this exercise next instead of saying, no, the one that's written down next is a stationery lunge,

that's what we're gonna do. This is why I never write things down. I don't think I ever really did write things down, except for my athletes that I would need to pay attention to percentages of weights being lifted and whatnot, because I was so paying attention to what was going on during the workout that what I see in the way their body is talking.

I have a general idea of the direction I'm gonna go, but when I see their body moving in particular way, that then tells me the next exercise. Okay, I'm watching you do this, this row exercise, I see something going on here with your shoulder, we're gonna move on to this shoulder exercise instead of the other one. Yeah, that's exactly what I do now.

I see. It took that time period to really establish that, but yeah, once you get to where you can, you could recognize all these things happen right in front of you and you can, and definitely it's way better as far as like, you know, the communication between the client and trainer, you know, the flow is a lot better

once you eliminate that distraction. It's really a distraction for the most part. If you have to go back and write and then come back and say, you know, and you're keeping track of weight, like you should remember. Yeah. You should remember, I always remember what the challenging weight parameters were.

It's just something that's automatic. I have a hard time with the way we're answering this right now. And it's because I feel like we are so much more advanced. And it's hard for me to don't know what this person looks like. I don't know how this person coaches and trains. And I feel two different parts of the spectrum, I think. Well, kind of. I feel like you guys both agreed

that we shouldn't write shit down. You know what I'm saying? No, I would say if you want to do it. I would say if you want to write stuff down, if you feel like you need to, if you're new, pay attention to also observing your client, pay attention, also connect, that's all I'm trying to say. Yeah, I know, I'm not fully disagreeing.

I just feel like whoever this is, this is really not a question for us. This is a question for yourself. This is a question that you should ask yourself. I mean, and you should know, and I, because I remember, I remember being new and I remember assessing myself and saying, asking myself after that session was over with the client, was that good? Was that one of my best sessions? Did I deliver, did I get, and by best sessions, these are the things I mean. Did I

deliver what Sal talked about? Did I give that connection with my client to where I was interacting with them? Like Justin said earlier, did I give them a bad ass workout that they enjoyed and they felt like they not only got a great workout, but they were kind of entertained along the way. These are things that I'm thinking about that I want to deliver to my client. And I'm assessing myself when I'm done.

Did I or did I not execute on that? Now, I found when I was earlier in my years, it helped to have some sort of written, something written down before. Like Justin said, I may deviate a little bit from it or whatever, and maybe Sal never really wrote anything down, but I didn't feel like I was that smart or that talented yet until later into my career where now I absolutely wouldn't write anything down and I feel fully confident that no matter what I get, I get through my class.

I would add something else on top of that as far as the relevance of why you should write things down, especially in the beginning is because you're not, I mean, as much as you think you know from books, you're a lot more likely to injure somebody. Okay, and you need as much documentation as possible when it comes to insurance, when it comes to protecting yourself. I know people that even now, like three, four years in, that have had somebody maybe injure themselves outside

and then blame them for the training as far as that leading to their injury or whatever. And so they actually had to battle that with insurance companies and thankfully they wrote it down so they could see that everything was planned out. So there is that, just be aware. That's a very good deal. So here's what, my point was basically,

if you're training an athlete, and you're sitting there, and you're acting like a clinical setting, I'm marking things down, okay, we did 50% of this, and we had a 3% here and four. That's okay because the athlete is self-motivated. Well, yeah, and they have, they probably have pretty damn good form. They have great form, you're measuring, you know,

centimeters of performance and increases in performance. Right. And they're self-motivated. You don't need to make a fucking connection. They're there, you train them, they leave. That's all, that's all it is to it. But the average client comes to you because they want to get in shape, but they don't stay because they leave. That's all iters to it. But the average client comes to you because they wanna get in shape,

but they don't stay because of that. That's part of it, but really, it's that connection. If you're constantly this clinical type of laboratory scientists who's always writing things down and never really paying attention to the other parts of training, you're not gonna be a successful trainer. That's all I'm saying.

So yes, write things down, but don't forget to observe, communicate, talk, tell your client what you're writing down. How about that? Instead of just writing shit down on some secret piece of paper, show them what you're writing. You know what I mean? Explain it to them. Well, we've already explained this. Like, the way that you keep retention always high is if that person likes you and is

entertained. Yeah. Like, that is, that's on the priority of, it's like 90% of what's gonna keep making you money. That 10% of your professionalism and actually like providing a great service as far as like the training and getting results and all that. You know, that's just a real small sliver.

It's true. Oh no, absolutely. Well, it's 100% true, because we sure shit didn't have mind pump fucking 15 years ago. I would have loved to have that. I would have loved that. I would have loved it being like just being me being the being a great trainer. Remember people that I, yeah, that I could just suck up all this great information and

be entertained the same time. Fuck this. Yeah. So easy. So easy. Next question, Doug. Alright, boom, boom, fit one wants to know how Sal knows so many studies. That's so stupid.

He slept with a lot of scientists. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've joked about this on the air before I go. You get that computer upgrade. Well, you know, everybody, we're all blessed with different things. Justin's got the great looks. I have the huge cock.

Sal has the ability to, Sal has the ability, he has a photographic memory. He can actually look at these studies and this asshole right after we read him. I could read the same study with him. And then the next day when we're talking about it, like I remember parts of it here and there, and he could verbatim list off the stats. It's really good. Well, here's what it breaks down to. Okay.

Everybody has that ability with what they're, what truly they're they're passionate about or something that they really really love you I'm hella passionate about that shit. I don't mean this guy if you cares hard enough if you really tried hard You know what here's all I gotta say don't play football Okay, and maybe you'll have these sour skills. Well, no, no, this is it right? Did I just crack the code? these sour scopes. Well, no, no, no, this is it, right? Did I just crack the code? You want that athletic? I think you're not grappling.

You studied a lot. You read a lot of books. No, no, smashing my ass. Let me explain what I mean. Don't explain what I mean about the passion of breathing. Listen here, you clowns. Listen. Tell us how smart you are.

No, let's tell us nerdy, Sal. Listen to what I'm saying. Let me ask you a question. Don't be athletic. What do you do in your spare time? When you want to relax, when you want to enjoy yourself, when you want to really get into something you love and just have fun, right?

Most people, some people watch sports, so I can ask somebody who's a sport lover, how many yards of this guy rush? You know, what's this guy's last name? Where's his family from? And they could fucking quote everything out about them. For me. For me.

For me, for fun. Yeah. That same guy has a photograph of a man or two. He's just too stupid to apply it to something that's gonna make him money or I should do it. He's a fucking, because I got one of my best friends. That's right. He's a beast like that with sport.

He would call him sports center, because he's booing that. I'm like, man, if my boy would just apply that same shit to something that's gonna get him paid, he would be in your seat. That's the difference. That's the difference. You've learned to apply it to science and something that's. I just, I'm like, man, if my boy would just apply that same shit to something that's gonna get him paid, he would be in your seat. That's the difference. That's the difference is you've learned to apply it to science and something that's important. I absolutely love it. And I do, my memories do tend to be where, if I remember something, I don't remember

the fact, I remember the page and what it looked like on the page. So if I remember, for example, we were talking about in a previous episode, I don't know if it aired or not, yet, but it will, if it hasn't. We talked about being able to activate the central nervous system through isometric contractions. Well, the studies showed 95% with isometric contraction, 88% with concentric contraction, so there was a difference of over 7%. I remember that only because I remember what the page looks like, and I remember where it was on the page, so that's how I remember it. So if that's a photographic memory,

I may be able to do that. But I think there's a division of that with the learning process. Some people have that, I've met other people that's one of the same thing. It was very visual. They remembered that as far as what color it was, it looked like, and then all of a sudden boom,

it comes back, you know, as opposed to like, it had for me, it almost has to take this sort of journey. And then it goes up a mountain, then it comes back down and it goes around this trail, and it comes, oh, there it is. Well, for me, it's like, it needs to be, I need to have heard that stat or said that stat myself at least two three four times before it's ingrained. So a lot of times I got to go back and refer. There's a lot of information. It hits you a couple times. Yeah, there's a lot of information that I already know,

but I'm like I need to still Google it so I can be reminded of like how I can articulate this because I don't have that. I don't have that ability to be like, oh, I remember that one study I read or I remember that one kinesiology book I read and then I just be able to, no, I can't have that. I don't have that ability to be like, oh, I remember that one study I read, or I remember that one Kinesiology book I read, and then I just feel that, no, I can't do that. No, there's no such thing. Yeah, I just love it. It's literally what I do in my spare time. Literally, if I'm taking a shit,

I'm reading some kind of scientific journal. If I'm at my spare time, when I'm talking to you guys in between conversations, that's what I'm, it's just I have such a deep passion for such a... I don't know, listen, here's a deal. I don't know a lot about any really particular subject. I know a lot about fitness, but I'm not like super deep in my knowledge.

I just have a breadth of it. I know a little bit about a lot of things. I don't know a lot about a lot of things at all. So. Okay, we're done stroking him off. Yeah, we're done. That was a fun and big felt great. Yeah.

Well, boom, boom, fit has another question. He wants to put whipped cream on your nipples and lick them off. He wants you to put that knowledge to the test, Sal. And this goes to all of you. What's your opinion on glucose disposal agent supplements? Is that like Windex? What? Just spread some Windex on this.

Is that Windex? So we're talking about? So you just shit out sugar? Okay, so here's sugar. Shit in sugar. All right, here's a deal. Glucose disposal agents is a marketing term invented by the supplement company

that refers to supplements or compounds. No, they, what they do is they increase insulin sensitivity, maybe increase your body's ability to convert carbohydrates into glycogen, not store it as body fat. So basically, something that if I ate carbs would, would help it get converted more to glycogen or more likely to glycogen versus to body fat. And so they come up with this name glucose disposal agent to make it sound like you're disposing of glucose. What's my guess just by you, you saying that is it's probably a supplement that carries amino acids protein in it because if you pair up a carbohydrate or a sugar with a fucking protein or a fat, it's going to slow down that process. Well, I'll give you a classic one. It's lower glycemic index. I'll give you a classic one.

Do you guys remember chromium picolinate? Do you remember that was in every goddamn supplement in the 90s? Chromium picolinate, I believe it's a trace mineral. And if you're deficient in it, when you supplement with it, boom, your insulin levels are more effective and you utilize carbohydrates better. Vanitol sulfate, that's another trace element that does that.

Alpha-liploc acid, that'll do some stuff. But here's the deal, we are literally splitting hairs of hairs of hairs. So these supplements, because the way they advertise these supplements are, take three of these pills, eat all the carbs you want, and they'll just get turned into muscle, you're not gonna get fatter. No, that's bullshit.

Doesn't work that way. So our opinion, my opinion on glucose disposal agents are if you're everything else is fucking dialed in and you already shredded and you wanna maybe squeeze out like a 0.2% more body fat, it might help. I don't know, maybe, maybe not. Well, what about the analogy that I just give you? I mean, wouldn't that be the same concept

if you just made sure that you paired your carbohydrate to not spike in time? I feel the effort researching that this supplement even exists is wasted. Yeah, right. It's getting the fucking gym and listen weights. Right. Well, this goes back to what we have talked about in recent episodes, which is what I really want us to one of the things I do want us to work on this coming weekend is teaching

people how to supplement for your needs. You'll get so much further in your fitness journey If you're gonna take supplements That's and I think that a lot of people think that we're all anti-substant. We are not anti-substant Every single one of us have tons of supplements in our cupboards But learning how to take supplements for what your body needs to so your metabolism runs efficiently like it's supposed to If you got fucking four flat tires on your car your car Any you have no oil in your air filter is dirty dirty and your pop your pump and heart dirty

Yeah That's sure that I have no idea that actually came Yeah Fucking point though. There is no reason for that. It makes no sense to pump that shit in there when you're so far better off assessing how you eat and figuring out what is your diet lacking and either one getting it through whole foods, which would be the ideal way.

And then two, if there's those whole foods that maybe you dislike or rare for you to have in your house, then you learn how to take the supplement that's replacing that. And, or if you want to use exotic supplements, like learn how to maximize their effect. For example, we talked about glucose, which is said glucose disposal agents,

or a K A supplements that make your insulin more effective. Do you know where you might get a benefit from it? Is post workout? Maybe post workout, I take my carbohydrate and protein shake and I throw in some alpha-lipobic acid to accelerate the absorption. That might be a way to use it. And in fact, that's ways that I've used

things like alpha-lipobic acid, mainly because it's good for you, not because of that, but that's the side effect. Or if I combine it with creatine intake to increase its utilization. So you have to be, if you wanna use these things, be smart about how you use them and where you place them throughout your day.

99% of my supplements are taken before and after my workout period because I'm trying to maximize that window. Keep the simple. You remember what we touched on this? And answer this for me, because we were talking about splitting hairs Just putting hairs here if you or somebody then you looked at this same person's diet and you looked at you

And there was like a big glaring thing that like oh wow this person has an abundance of like we talked about the other day Omega-6s in their lacking threes And I see that and they and they just simply don't get a lot of food and that whole foods that Possess this that and they just simply don't get a lot of food and that whole foods that possess this, what am I going to tell that person? Would they be better off going and spending $20 on some omega-3s and taking omega-3s and their diet, or would they be better off taking a disposal agent? Right. Exactly.

Tell me what's the answer. No, of course, omega-3. Well, 100%. Right? 100%. That's what I'm talking about. That's, I mean, I feel like when we get so many questions with supplements like that I feel like I'd rather have someone tell me that like hey My pump Sal and adjustin Adam. I you know, I eat like this I don't I miss these things like that, you know

What are some things that maybe I'm missing in my diet that I should either supplement with whole foods or use as a Supple on the side versus the latest and greatest fucking shreds of one that came out that everybody wants to know about like I hate that shit because that stuff is so pointless. It's so worthless and pointless. If you haven't figured out what your body is not getting nutritionally from your whole face. And that's about, and you're even referring to supplements that actually do something at that point.

There's a lot of supplements out there that you can be dialed in to hell and take it and want to shoot for it. Yeah, right exactly. I mean, it's like, well, I just wasted my time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Sal Margolo asks is Argonine?

Absolutely. Moving on to another supplement question. Yeah. I didn't even see that was coming. Oh, that's my cumpad. It's a supplement. Salvatore Margola. It's a supplement Sunday.

He's one of our boys from the forum. Yes. Argonine. Here's the thing. Argonine is used to increase nitric oxide of the blood. It's Organine. Here's the thing. Organine is used to increase nitric oxide of the blood. It's a vasodilator. So then you get increased blood flow. So it takes some of the agrar, so that's the whole day. Supposedly giving you a better pump.

This is why you shouldn't take argonine because argonine gets destroyed through the process of when you ingest it. It does get destroyed. So very little of it actually reaches your bloodstream. And a lot of it gets used up by the gut. What'll be better to use instead of organinine? It's citrilline. Yeah, citrilline bypasses some of those, some of that destruction.

And citrilline is then synthesized, they're turned into argonine in the body. So it's actually a more effective way of raising argonine in the blood is through taking citrillene versus Argonine. So I would say take Argonine, I'm excuse me, take Citroene and not Argonine. That'll probably, that'll be better

in terms of the results you're gonna get from it. Are you gonna get crazy results from it? I mean, taking six grams of Citroene fasted pre-workout, you'll get a better pump definitely. Definitely I think you'll get a better pump definitely Definitely I think we get a better pump But if you're if you're eating lots of food in between and you know You've got all the other food in that amino acid will compete with other amino acids probably not gonna do a whole lot good point so Jason ten Smith if you could have dinner with three guests either alive or dead doesn't matter

Who would they be or dead, it doesn't matter. Who would they be? Adam's gonna have to go first, so we're here. I'm gonna go first, I'm gonna steal one of yours because I thought it was clever. Jesus. Yeah, Jesus would be one of them. Jesus, how do you?

Jesus would be one, and then Robin Williams would be another one, and then Abraham Lincoln. Really? Yeah, Abraham Lincoln. Really? Yeah, those three. Why? I don't know, I just think there'd be three awesome guests to stay with for funny, intellectual, and religious reasons.

Awesome. Yeah, see if I talk to Jesus, I would also wanna have dinner with Satan. Whoa, dude. No, you know why? Whoa! That would be a hell of a dinner. If you were, if I'm not,

now here's the thing, I'm not religious, so if I'm offending anybody, fuck you. If you were, if I'm not, I'm not, here's the thing. I'm not religious. So if I'm offending anybody, fuck you. If, if, if, if I would, I mean, and this is, you're having dinner, you can ask questions and shit, right? I'm not like I'm gonna have Satan in front of me. Now I'm dead and possessed and going to hell with you. Of course. Okay, if we can sit there and talk,

don't tell me that Satan wouldn't be fucking interesting. You know, to sit and just be like, tell, just, like, okay, what's your side of the story? Well, if I were, if it would happen, bro, I agree. I agree. I agree, but I would make sure I would need Jesus to be there too to help me just in case, just in case he fuck with me. But they start fighting and shit. Yeah, whatever. You know, say that if you're, if you're going to call Satan there, you got to call Jesus. That's two years from, that's two years from, that's two years from, it's two years from, it's two years

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No one's technically seen Satan. So there's no, we don't have any real, any real documentation that Satan's been around, right? So, yeah. I would like to sit down with Einstein. That's a good one. Nicola Tesla. Ah, yes.

And probably either Plato or Socrates. Oh, those are can you wait back? Those are way better. Well, dude. These are fucking people. I go for a I go for a mine That take all your ideas. Yeah, socrates for sure. I was one of them I just like I love philosophy. I just like talking to people that think like really deep You know, they really try and figure out talking to people that think like really deep. You know, they really try and figure out like what it is, the reasoning, the purpose, like all that stuff, and like the question,

like their entire existence. Like that's fascinating to do. And that's a lost art. And I feel like it gets, it gets clowned a lot because it gets immediately clung. You know why clung? Because we have all the answers now. That's exactly where are are get.

Yes. In that case, I want to trade all the answers now. That's our target. Yes. In that case, I want to trade Robin Williams for Dr. Seuss. Hey. Dr. Seuss. Man, I'm not done. That's one of my favorite philosophers. Would you interrupt them? I told you.

Shut up, Dr. Seuss. JJ Abrams next. JJ Abrams? Because I just want to live in his mind for a little bit. Yeah, just because he comes up with all these concepts and stories and it's very out there and he thinks a lot like me and I feel like, I feel like, ah, you know, we'd be besties

by the time I was done. You just know it. You know what? You said that feeling. So who, JJ Abrams? Yeah. Uh, what was, I guess I can't use Socrates. Sure, yeah, it's because. I took Jesus from him.

Yeah. Maybe I'll do Aristotle instead. I mean, how cool would it be to sit down with this philosopher and instead of asking him about Leonardo DiCaprio? DiVinci, fuck you guys. DiVinci. DiCaprio. What is he gonna tell me?

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thesis concept hypothesis, all these things. It all came to, to be. And then we were the person to tell them that. Oh, God, that would be cool. That would be safe. Newton would be cool. Yeah, Newton sit with Newton, uh, John Lennon, the guy that Fignin, what about John Lennon? That would be safe. Newton would be cool. Yeah, Newton sit with Newton. John Lennon the guy that fig Newton. What about John Lennon? That'd be fucking awesome. Yeah. Oh definitely. Smoke a joint with Bob Marley. That would be cool. Yeah. I like Steve Ravon. I would just like to

have him teach me some shit. What about women? What about women from the past? You know, I would love to have dinner with Cleopatra. Because I bet she's not as hot as everybody said to me. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's like, she was probably like, I bet she was just average at best. Here's the thing, think about it. Back then, think about it.

We're way back in the way. You get one woman to Cleopatra. Well, let me tell you what, it depends. Think about back in those days, like women, everybody. Everybody smelled, everybody was hairy and gross. I bet she was clean, she shaved everything and she gave a good blowjob. Boom, Cleopatra rules the world.

That's what I think, because I don't think the competition back then was that harsh, you know what I'm saying? Like if I look at her today, I bet she would have been that hot. Yeah, Joan of Arc, because- She was crazy, maybe she was hot. I guess she was fighting.

She was crazy, bro. And she wouldn't put out because she's Joan of Arc. Bro, you know what she's- Her body's safe for God. Yeah, I wouldn't put out because she's Joan of Arc. She's your body safe. It's on you. Yeah, I'm saying she might kill you. It may probably, but it'd be awesome. Yeah. What about you Adam? What chick? Margaret Thatcher. Oh, oh, she's a bad ass. She is a bad ass, bro. She was a bad ass. Margaret Thatcher. You ever watch YouTube clips of her? I've watched all kinds of shit on her. I'd love some of her quotes or her bro there's clips of her work because parliament in England is so

Routing like they blast each other. Yeah, and she's just up there hammering them right back. I love it Oh one of my favorite quotes is her is it being being powerful is like being a woman if you have to tell anybody You are you're probably not Fucking love that. She's a G. She is a Yeah, I definitely I would love to have a little Maryland love that. She's a G. She is a G. Yeah, so I definitely, I would love to have that. What about Marilyn Monroe? She's hot.

Yeah, she'd be interesting. She wouldn't be? She wouldn't be up there as my top ones though. To me. I doubt there's a... I would love to sit down with her and be like, Hey Marilyn, do you know that, I mean, we all know that you're a drug addict

and that you killed yourself and you're kind of crazy. But you know what women quote you all the time and look up to you? I hate those fucking memes. Like who's taking advice from Marilyn Monroe? That's the last person you should take advice from. That's what's funny though. That's why I said, she's not even somebody who I should.

She was like the snookie of her time. She was the snookie. Oh my God. Super popular. You just totally insulted anybody in her family, right? No. No. She wasn't icon, but she was.

Sneaky's awesome. She had problems though. Yeah, yeah, but she's not up there with Cleopatra's Margaret Thatcher's and Jonah Mark for sure. She didn't clear a patch or like start a war. She started like a world war. Yeah, I was terrible in history. She was like, she slept with somebody from Rome or something. That didn't happen. I guess when she comes to dinner, you can ask her. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Are we done with the questions?

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