Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1958: How to Target the Chest During Dips, the Truth About Cheat Days, the Best Protein Supplement for People With Digestive Issues & More

Episode Date: December 2, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Stretching can BUILD muscle! You just have to do it the right way. (2:07) Aspirin is the superior NSAID. (13:34) Kids say the darndest things. (16:31) If anyone could pull off glow-in-the-dark rims, it’s Adam. (20:15) Mind Pump loves underground tech. (23:30) Adam’s super couch! (25:08) Sal’s biggest fan. (30:08) The value of “human-made.” (33:13) Krispy Kreme’s MAJOR partnership. (36:49) Mind Pump Recommends, Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix. (40:14) The benefits of red-light therapy for tendon and joint pain. (45:32) Why blue-light-blocking glasses will become a part of your nightly routine. (49:24) The metaverse is a long way away. (51:48) #Quah question #1 - How do you target your chest during dips? I only ever feel my triceps. (56:39) #Quah question #2 - Is it better to cut with or without refeeds and cheat days? (1:00:38) #Quah question #3 - What are the best foods for bulking? What do you suggest for upping calories? (1:07:24) #Quah question #4 - For someone who can't digest whey protein powder, what's the best alternative protein powder? (1:12:39) Related Links/Products Mentioned Cyber Monday Sale: ALL MAPS Fitness Products & Bundles 60% off!  **Promo code CYBERMONDAY at checkout** (Code valid through Friday, Dec. 2nd) Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Cardioprotective effects of aspirin compromised by other NSAIDs Pbs Kids This color-changing concept BMW will mess with your head Review: Lovesac StealthTech McDonald's to sell Krispy Kreme doughnuts in latest menu experiment Watch Ancient Apocalypse | Netflix Official Site Improvement of pain and disability in elderly patients with degenerative osteoarthritis of the knee treated with narrow-band light therapy Red Light Therapy for Arthritis and Joint Pain Relief | Joovv Melatonin Absence Leads to Long-Term Leptin Resistance and Overweight in Rats Wealthy Way Podcast - Ryan Pineda - YouTube Visit LivON Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1940: Chest Building Master Class How To Do Chest Dips For A BIG Chest! - Mind Pump TV Should I Do a Cheat Day While I'm Training? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1952: How To Bulk The Right Way Not All Protein Is Created Equal (PROTEIN POWDER GUIDE) – Mind Pump TV Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP15 at checkout for 15% discount** Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness) Instagram Ryan Pineda (@ryanpineda) Instagram

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Go to Felix Gray glasses.com. That's F-E-L-I-X-G-R-A-Y glasses.com-forward slash. Mind pump. All right, here comes the show. All right, check this out. Stretching can actually build muscle. You just have to do it the right way. Loaded stretching has been shown to increase IGF1

in muscles that's insulin like growth factor very anabolic hormone. It also has been shown to upregulate the receptors that IGF1 attaches to it works with. And it also has an occlusion effect similar to muscle occlusion training where if fatigues muscle fibers and causes the fast twitch muscle fibers to build even faster. So you can add this to your routine, it doesn't cause much damage, improves your range of motion, and it accelerates results.

Old knowledge? Old knowledge. But there's studies that are starting to support loaded stretching. But this is like a favorite among bodybuilders for a long time, right? Where they finish a workout with like a isolation exercise that puts a muscle in a stretch,

focusing on the stretch, and then other bodybuilders have figured out that if you take an isolation exercise, put a muscle in a stretch, hold it under stretch for 30 to 45 seconds, you get these crazy pumps and what's the most common ways that they do that with a chest fly, for instance, in that stretch position.

Yeah, so a chest fly would be one for the back or the lats would be hanging from a bar or a pull down bar getting a lats stretch. Bicep would like an incline bench with two dumbbells hanging down, delts, you could do on a flat bench, where you're holding down here, quads, obviously you could set in your heels,

hamstrings, that's an easy one. But basically what you do is you get a pump, and at the end of the workout, you do this extended loaded stretch, and it's like a few percent more stimulus for muscle growth. And it's easy to add. And then the real benefit that I enjoy from it is it helps me work on improved range emotion because that's the best time to do a static stretch at the end of the work.

Because you're not doing any more exercises. Yeah, I mean, I've done something similar, but it's mainly just intrinsic. So it wasn't loaded stretches, but it was like those positions, but now you're really like digging into it and adding muscular tension to kind of reinforce those positions. If it's hard to get in those positions, especially, but in terms of muscle building, like I could see loaded stretches being an option. No, mechanistically, what is happening? Is it facilitating recovery at a faster rate because you're relaxing the muscle?

Obviously, if you're lifting, you just go down with a massive pump. You're in a state of tonus and you're active still. If you do this static stretch for more than 30 seconds, it tells the CNS to kind of relax. Is that speed up the process of recovering because of that? Is it what are the real benefits that are happening? Yeah, I don't know if it speeds up recovery, but I do know that it's loaded, so it's not necessarily like a recovery type of stretch, because like if I'm doing a weighted fly

and I'm holding it here at the bottom and I'm letting it stretch my chest, there's still kind of an isometric thing that's going on, right? I can't completely, or my body's not going to completely let go, otherwise I'd hurt myself. So it's, you're still getting the isometric contraction. Well, you're also doing that when a muscle is pumped

and you're stretching it and loading it, you're squeezing the muscle of blood, all the waste products are kind of building up. It burns, I crazy, if you've ever done this, it's very, very painful. It feels like it allows that fluid to kind of travel a little bit more to in range in terms of your muscle. I don't know if that's...

Well, what I noticed is after the stretch, where you let go of the dumbbells, the pump comes back, like super, super intense. My favorite value of it is it helps with range of motion for the next workout. Because I get this deep stretch, I've already trained the muscle, I'm not worried about weakening the muscle because it's at the end of the workout. And then when I go back into my work at the next time, I tend to have a little bit of a better range of motion.

And then you can train in better range. It would be interesting to me to see it compare to somebody who, like let's say a group of people that do the stretching afterwards. Then another group does just traditional isometric type of holds afterwards. And then another group, let's say does two reps, two more reps of a set.

So let's say we use the chest flags, I would love to see a study that shows somebody who does just an isometric hold on the chest afterwards, a group that would do the stretch like you're saying, and then another group that would just add two more reps or another set of flies, and then which one potentially builds the most. The closest thing that we have to that is they did do a study

on isometric holds comparing both ends and ranges of motion. So fully contracted versus fully stretched, and they found that the fully stretched isometric contraction resulted in more muscle growth. So like, you know, holding a bicep squeeze here versus holding it here at a stretch, for example, the stretch position produced a little bit more muscle growth than the... Okay, so we do have research to show that. Yeah, so it's like it would be like comparing, I guess... But I mean, you could also still do it. You could do an isometric hold. That's, yeah, so that's the squeeze part, right? It's just as good as much emphasis otherwise, like in the exercise. It's like doing,

um, it's like comparing a concentric to essential. So what if you did do an isometric hold in like against a wall, yes, opened up. Yes. So that would be in the stretch position. Right. That's where they see be in the stretch position. Right. That's where they see you get more muscle growth. And I also think that it doesn't cause much damage. So it's something that's easy to add. Versus if you add a few more reps or an exercise, you may tip yourself over. It's a different stimulus.

So there's that novelty aspect. I notice that more results with certain muscle groups with this one. Delt's are really hard. Delt's so hard to get into a stretch position, so that one's always tough for me. My lats, crazy pump, quads, crazy pump, chest, crazy pump when I do it. And it's not adding much more to your extra.

It's really easy to do at the end of your workout. And it's a lot of fun. I know Ben Pekolsky was a big proponent. And he does it in between sets. He does introset, introset stretching. So he doesn't even do it at the end. He does it after a set and then gets back into. Yeah, but again, the thing that just makes me wonder if there's what we're seeing is we're obviously what's happening is you're stimulating the muscle again. So would a isometric, just a traditional isometric hold and or another rep or two or another set.

Do the same thing. Do the same thing. And it's like, are we really overvaluing something like, okay, so the argument, okay, there's some value there. I think the best argument is what you start to say as far as the novelty. Yeah. If you're, right, yeah, if you're go to move, it's always just add volume, add more reps, add more sets, and you eventually will peak out on that.

So here's another technique that maybe potentially doesn't do as much damage to the body, and that's novel. It's a novel stimulus, so maybe you'll get the benefits there. But yeah, and I think it points back to doing full range of motion, the importance of that, because it's maybe you aren't tapping its full potential because you're not fully in that, you're not challenging that stretched position enough. That's where I think they were all equal. Let's say what you said, everything's equal.

The value would be then just increase range of motion in the stretched position for muscles that you're tight in. So I tend to get real tight in my quads. And if I don't stretch them deep, I mean, I can't even sit on my heels. That's how tight they can get. And I don't really get into that position with any strength training. There's really no strength training exercise that stretches my quads.

I mean, a Cici squat kind of, but this would do that, right? Because this at the end of my workout, I could sit on my heels, get a gnarly stretch and then increase that, you know, kind of get that range of motion. I don't necessarily tap into. Yeah. When I went on a kick where I was doing this quite a bit and of course this is my experience right so there's no I have nothing to I can prove. This is what I what I thought I recognized was and that's why I asked to facilitate recovery.

I thought I didn't get a sore. Oh interesting. That's what I felt like I felt like when I did a good intention. I got to pay attention to what I did when I did a good job of stretching really well at the end of these workouts like this with weighted stretches or hangs or so that I do for my lats. So I do these things afterwards.

When I had a pretty good sense of the feel of a lift where I know like, oh, this is gonna get me, right? That's actually what would promote me to do is like, oh, I started to notice that if I do a good, deep stretch afterwards, I wouldn't be quite a sore the next day or the day after. But again, I don't know if that's what's really happening with that or not, or that was just by coincidence

that whenever I did that, we're just the workout for it is taxing. There's this really interesting record. Okay, so you want to take this for the grain of salt, right? But there was an animal study where they took birds and they put one wing in a weighted stretch position. I remember when you talked about it. For like a long time, like they'd leave it there for hours or days or whatever. And the muscle growth that the bird went through on the stretched wing was like crazy. Yeah.

Like ridiculous muscle growth and they speculated that this may even contribute to, again, grain assault here so everybody just kind of relax, but hyperplasia, where this may contribute more to muscle fiber splitting and becoming, you know, one muscle fiber becomes two muscle fibers, which that's the holy grail of muscle growth, right? You can make muscle fibers grow or shrink, but if you can increase them, they don't go away. So now you've got extra muscle fibers and building muscle becomes much. Do you think that's one of the key components of what makes somebody like a good natural body builder? Like they have those type of genetics that they actually have hyperplasia happens at a much faster or easier rate than the other person? I would 100% be a factor to that.

And I think also if it does happen in humans, which it's widely believed that it does because we observe it in animals, I think the best example are just old lifters who've been working out for decades and then, you know, they've been working out for so long, it's like they've got this kind of permanent muscle that doesn't go away. Yeah, I mean, I think you have a friend like Ben Pekolsky, you brought him up already, like he's a good example of that. It's trying to get small. Yeah, just still looks unbelievably muscular because he's,

he's probably now is the reason why we don't know that is because the only way you can test that is when they're dead. I think you have to do a bunch of muscle biologists. He's cut it out. Yeah. I think Dr. Nick Galpin has done that. Yeah. We've shown how, you know, it happens. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you guys have experienced this. We've all been working out for decades ourselves.

How much easier is it to stay your size now than it was? Oh, I've shared this before in the show that when I fall out of shape today, I'm still in better shape than I was, three years or five years of consistently lifting. So I mean, once you, I mean, that's one of the cool things about. It's like investing, you know,

it just keeps compounding the longer and more consistent you are years wise, the easier it gets to maintain good shape or good muscle mass. Maintain like progressing, you know, pasting your arms is just increasingly difficult, which I think is what people kind of forget. It's like, you know, if you've been in the gym a long time, you really have to kind of press to optimize outward

in a different direction and stimulate growth. Otherwise, it's like, it really have to kind of press to optimize outward in a different direction and stimulate growth. Otherwise, it's like, it is a lot easier though to maintain whatever mass you've built within that time in the gym. This is like my great-grandfather. He died when his 90s, that was old here, like a long time ago, but I remember as a kid,

he had these really like meaty forms because he was always working with his hands and stuff. He didn't work out, he's like, you know, 90 years old, he stopped working, you know, labor. He's had these muscular forms. And it's because of all the labor. So I'm wondering if there was like a bunch of hyperplasia that happened there, it just sticks around.

Sure. You know, afterwards. Anyway, so more interesting stuff I've been reading I was reading over the weekend. So you guys know what NSAIDs are, right? Non-sterroidal anti-inflammatories. Yeah. So these are like,

No, not town also. I'duprofen, which is Advil. Okay, yep. Naproxin, that's a leave aspirin, which is the old school classic. And there's other ones out there as well. Tyronol is not. A acetaminophen is a different class. That's right, you can kind of one to the other, like go back and forth. Well, I was reading about, so I ate a bunch of, I had a real big dinner one night and I went

and took some alchacelcer, which is old, so old, you know, over the counter medicine for whatever. And in alchacelcer's aspirin. And I'm like, you know, aspirin's been around for a long time. We've been using this forever. I wonder what the studies say on aspirin in comparison to the other NSAIDs, like ibuprofen, which is one of the more widely used ones, right? And did you guys know that aspirin is,

now for pain relief, this is where you get like ibuprofen might last longer, might be a little better, whatever. But when it comes to like safety and health profiles, I'm like that. aspirin superior. Yeah, well, it's been superior. Recommended to have have a baby aspirin or a day just for heart health.

For people who've had heart attacks or stroke. And don't they even, for pregnant woman, don't they have them take baby aspirin too? I don't know about that. Yeah, I thought Katrina got recommended baby aspirin at one point. That's interesting. I don't know that.

But so aspirin's got anti-cancer effects. It's got anti-stroke effects and it can prevent heart attack in certain people. Whereas other NSAIDs actually can cause problems or increases in strokes in heart disease. Now, so is, I mean, aspirin, obviously, is as impactful in the liver than in terms of processing it, because that's like the big detriment of, I would pro-access. So all the negative stuff that that they've said about aspirin, like, oh, it increases, it could increase your risk of gastric bleeding or ulcer.

It's all true for all the NSAIDs. It basically, in other words, all the negatives are similar, but aspirin has way more positives. In fact, check this out. So the way that NSAIDs work is they block these, cross the gladins that promote inflammation. And there's two main ones. I think one's called Cox One,

and the other one's called Cox Two. Aspirin does not prevent nitric oxide production like ibuprofen does. In other words, if you're an athlete, you want nitric oxide, ibuprofen is gonna reduce it, whereas aspirin does not. So it's really crazy. And I'm like, why are we being told,

why have, you know, are we all using these other ones instead of aspirin? Because aspirin's around for 100 years. Yeah, cheaper, but it's black and all the cocks. It's been, that's the juice. That's blocking all the cocks. It's a little late, but I still had to land it.

I said, hey, when I said it to him, like, let's see if they jump on it. You see a Jesse gets it? No, one. Yeah, two. I'm like, yeah. That'll say it. No, it mainly works on the first one, not the second.

I'm not going to say the main anymore just. Okay. I speak to words for that. So Max, Max has got this app that you put, there's a good app, by the way, that I think is really cool. I don't know if you're, if a really see I know it's called PBS for kids. And it's like games that they can play and educational. Yeah, they're more they're more on the educational that's totally

educational right teaches them shapes and colors and he's really into this cooking thing right now right so he and basically what it does is you know it guides them into picking a pot that they cook in and then you open the fridge and seasoning put it in there. Yes, that's how I'm doing those cute things. Yeah, yeah, so he's like, he's all into it and he's hilarious. And so I finally found, I don't know why this is so funny to me. I guess as a dad, one of the things I looked forward to is the day that my son can't pronounce something and it becomes a swear word and so.

I love this. I love this. It's like, you know, innocent fun that you like get to have. It's the best, you know, innocent fun that you like get to have. You know what I'm saying? So, and we're doing it, and we get to the foods parsley, right? And that's all, of course, I'm like, that's parsley. And so he goes and say, oh, pussy.

That's what it's like. Spice. Spice. Spice. And of course, I have to. So I get to say, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, what are you having him say?

It's parsley, honey. It's an educational, yeah, so he can't, he can't pronounce parsley, man. When is daddy like to eat? I don't know why it's so funny. I don't know why it's so funny and immature for me to do that. But then you just play with it, bro. I would tell him, like, if you want to mess with one of your buddies,

I'm like, hey, you're already doing it., I already do it. I'm already doing it. So I really, I really says, he can't say truck. He says, fuck. Okay. And he also, when he says sit, it sounds like shit. Yeah. Okay. So we're, my kids are like, yeah, they say shit down. Yeah. So we're, so we're, we're getting breakfast yesterday. We went out to breakfast, just because mom was visiting and we're all sitting there. And my son wants the, he's like, in fact, we were trucks. And so he wants to see this truck video.

He wants to be pulled by truck video. So he's sitting there, we're all sitting there, and I'm standing up, and it really goes, Bupa, shit fuck, shit fuck. Bupa, shit fuck. And the waitress is like, looking at my son, I'm like, he's trying to say sit truck. That's patient.

He's like, okay, because I thought he was going, no, no, we don't teach him that, okay. Shit fuck, bubba. That's the best thing. I don't know why I don't know why I think it's so funny, but I remember having my little siblings when they were growing up. And I feel like every kid has a word or two

that they just can't pronounce very well. And they seem to be different, you know, and unique. And you never know when it's gonna be. And so I know I do part part. Well, the worst is when he hears everybody laugh, he's gonna start saying more. Of course, of course, of course. So a really is just like full on,

it's like a light switch turned off. So he turned two years old, boom, toddler mode. Okay, so if you've ever had, anybody's ever had toddlers, you know, they can definitely be there's a stereotype of toddler where they're very emotional, like, you know, he'll be playing with his car and he gets stuck and he'll lose his shit and I'll go over there and be like, let me help you. No! And he's like, it's just hilarious. Okay. So anyway, Jessica, you know, she's, I'm in the other room and I hear her talking to him. And she uses this nice voice, but I can also, I can tell she's pissed off. She goes, she goes, she goes,

Aralius, because I guess he had water in his sippy cup and he was like splashing her with it in her face. So she goes, Aralius, if you splash mommy in the face one more time, I'm gonna be really pissed off. And I'm like in the back Oh, I better jump in She's got the nice voice you know, but I can hear the anger Oh, it's funny. I was driving up to a trucky to kind of spend time I found we did early like Thanksgiving and we're driving up and this for Adam cuz I wanted to

Here you're into rims and everything and you've seen kind of the progression of that, right? We've seen some really like bizarre ones. We're gonna have to spin it. You're never gonna spin it. I was wondering about, is that still like, around as anybody, because that was so ridiculous, it was like a five year trend that they were so popular

than they fell out of favor. I never liked them. I thought they always looked. So I'm wondering, is this a trend, or is this like just one off that, like this guy just had this hair-brained idea? He was in this like red corvette, and I look over him like,

wait a minute, those are kind of a weird color. And they were like a little bit kind of yellow, a little bit greenish, and then, you know, we kept driving next to him, and then it got dark and they started glowing in the dark and I was like glowing the dark rims and you're like yeah that's kind of cool actually I mean no I was done pulling up some glow in the dark rims that's kind of cool right if you saw you'd be like oh okay it sounded like a cool idea but I don't think he pulled it

off glow in the dark rim I mean that's kind of think he pulled it off. I mean that's kind of cool. Yeah. No, it's not. That's kind of cool. I want to see what they look like. I mean I got glow in the dark shoes. I wish I had a picture, dude. I just picture you getting out and you've got the shoes that light up like I do have

the shoes that light up like that. Well the ones I brought in here, the day I showed you, those easy the bottoms of it. Yeah but if anybody can pull, I figured it like it would be a wheelhouse for sure, no, you never got the ones that remember the ones that were probably with no with the kids. No, no, no, no, those and those those are cool though. I mean, you see, when did you ever get the shoes that were the little skate in the bottom? No, I didn't get these that was a release.

Those are those are like our like our your kids generation. That wasn't when we were kids. They didn't have those. They didn't have something to worth. Well, my favorite Instagram account was this guy like he would, he had the wheelies and he'd go to skate parks and do tricks and that's shh. He died, dude. I don't remember his name. I had a boss that wore him. So when I was, I know exactly what

you're talking about. Yeah, when I was 20 this, he'd skate around the gym. He did. He's a fitness manager that used to, that used to wear him and he was like in his mid 20s or late 20s and he used to rock those They were probably with kids at that time so I never I thought I did not think it was cool like when he was doing it Now what so how did those work like do you accidentally can the skate pop out an accident where you're trying to do something fall down Or do you have to like purposely? I mean you guys know how they work yeah, yeah, you have to have a toes up right so yeah So I mean your your heel is elevated by a wheel.

If the wheel is built in the heel, and it's sticky out. But you have to physically pop it out and lock it. Like, you know what I mean? It stays there on an actual always. And you have to, so just walk on your toes. Yeah, you still, it's just like having a very slight height. Can I, I'm just picturing like you,

some dudes carrying groceries up his driveway. Oh, there's there's a thing You don't want to do that It's during the day it looks like shit It'll be us that's like the the look at the look at the I like the ones that are black with the black with the just the lip that's green right there Oh, yeah, I would do that Did you have you seen? Have you seen, yeah, those ones right there.

Oh, those are like bike tires. Those are like bike tires. That's so dumb. Have you seen the new, I think it was a BMW, where you have the app, I think at the key does this, either the key or an app on your phone, and you can change the paint with a touch of a button. Yeah, is that out yet?

I don't know, but somebody sent me a clip, I'm like, this is crazy. How does that work? I don't know. So the whole, the whole is like a digital screen. The car is like a digital screen. So it's not like a normal, like it's, you know, like, when you go like, I know our buildings, you know, our buildings have like, like LED, like mini LED through the whole thing.

I think that's how I, how I wrap the whole car. And yeah, there it is right there. Yeah, that's it. And it goes from white to thing. I think that's what how I wrap the whole car And yeah there it is right there. Yeah, and it goes from white to black That's crazy. No, I don't know if it's a concept or it's actually out I think it might be a concept that looks like the day. They do some crazy stuff That looks like the new ex there's BMW's coming out with a new I think it's called ex or something like that Looks pretty sick, but maybe so basically you break you break a law, you hit a button, your car changes, get away. Is that what we're gonna do? Yeah, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I remember there was like some, somebody installed something where you could lift your license plate up. Oh, just boost. It's the hour another one. Yeah, I've come to the box. I've seen gangsters up. You know how you get the, like if you,

sometimes you get a picture of your license plate if you don't pay like a toll or something like that. There's these covers that you could buy. I don't think they're legal, but they go over your license your license plate and when you look at it normally you could read your license plate but if it's at a particular angle where these cameras take a picture it'll blur it out. Oh cool. So you'll they'll take a picture and then we'll have your license. Oh wow. Yeah. I love underground. And you're totally gonna buy that now. Yeah.

Yeah. You guys, I always get tickets. Hey, so, okay. So since we're talking about like asshole things that I spend money on, so like I spent a bunch of money this weekend on a new couch. So you told me about it. It's crazy. So you're hyping it up, but I do get you picked yours.

Love sack has, well, I haven't got it yet. They have to, they customally make it, right? So it's getting all done right now. I get it like in two weeks. So I'll definitely like show you guys once I get it. So Love sack has partnered with Harming Carden. And Harming Carden is like top of the line, and stereo systems, they're in some of your luxury cars

and stuff like that. So it's great, great speakers. So they partnered. And so Harming Carden has built a surround sound system in the Love Sack couches. So I built this sectional that has chases, two chases on the end, and then I got two chases on the outside.

Underneath, I have three subwoofers, and then I've got two on each side, speakers on the sides, and in behind, and you can't see anything. Everything's all hidden in the couch, and then you have a centerpiece that's underneath the plasma, and it all is connected all while you're... Now you were saying,

because it sounds wild, but you tested it. Yes. And you were saying it sounded like that. Yeah, so I mean, I see it. So I saw reviews like people that were speck, because it's pretty new. And so I looked up on YouTube to find like reviews on what other like someone who owns it, they say,

and I couldn't find anybody who already owned it, just people that heard about the tech that it was coming. And of course, people were speculating, oh, it's probably gonna be muffled, oh, it's gonna be this. That's what I would think, because it's inside of the couch. It sounds, you know what it feels like?

It feels like I'm wearing headphones. What? Because you're in the couch, and so the sides are here, and it's a right part. It hits you, great, great. So yeah, it hits you and makes you feel like you got headphones on. So what's cool, and so what really sold right. So yeah, it hits you and makes you feel like you got headphones on.

So what's cool, so what really sold me on this is, so Katrina, we have pretty good surround sound already at the house and Katrina's always getting on to me to turn it down. Oh, max it turned down, turn it down, turn it down, turn it down, what's I got all these bad ass speakers, but it is kind of loud, especially the upstairs one that's near his room, so I don't get to really blast it the way I want to

because it makes the whole house loud. Where this is gonna be like the couch is more focused. It's more focused and so I don't need to crank it up as high and it won't be as loud right outside of it. So I'm really, and love sack, you know how comfortable love sack stuff is. So the couch is unbelievably comfortable and the whole thing.

It's called stealth tech. Yes. Oh shit. And the whole thing. It's all stealth tech. Yes. Oh shit. And the whole thing. It's all Bluetooth. Yes. All Bluetooth. And the whole entire couch is machine washable. So the site. That's important. Oh, yeah, with kids and dogs. So the side panels all, and you can't tell. So you would never guess that you can unvelcro the couch and actually unzip the cushions. It looks like a normal sectional couch. Now are they like, are they really expensive?

Are they kind of expensive? What is, what is, what is, what is, what is your definition of? Love sec on top of having tech built into the love. Like come on, it's your turn. Well, like a couch, a nice couch would cost like four grand. Like a really nice couch. So like, it's way more than 10.

Yeah, way more. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. By the look on your face. Yeah, it's annoying you. Yeah, yeah, no, it's not cheap at all. Now mind you, I did get a, like you could get it for, you could get something smaller.

I got a whole set up, right? So I have, and I built it to where I had the chase, because I like the chase, and then I got on each end chase, and then I, you're gonna put, you're gonna put maximum turn on Paw Patrol. Let's look at, look at his face. Like, I've always got him.

Dad, this is great. I'm training. Katrina's on that doesn't like the, doesn't like the stuff loud. She's always turning everything down all the time. I'm like, do you have the washings of subtitles with her? No, she,

that's how I watch them. Well, she hates subtitles. Okay, so you just can't hear it and see it. Yeah, that's all, that's how I watch it. Cause Jessica's like that too, turn it down, turn hate subtitles. Well, she hates subtitles. Okay. So you just can't hear and see it. Yeah. That's how I watch it. Because just because like that too, turn it down, turn it down. So I'm like subtitles. Yep.

Okay, I guess I'm reading TV today. I, you know, as a kid, I was into that stuff really young. In fact, my first big purchase as a kid when I was in my early teens when I was first starting work, I saved up enough to buy like a home stereo system. And so I've always been into loud music, into surround sound, and I've always been in the movies, it collected cassettes, and I collect DVDs. So of course, when I grew up, you never grew out of some things, that's one of the things I never grew out of.

And now you're like, Well, what it is, it's immersive. I'm like that too. I like to be immersed when I'm watching something. I just don't do it anymore because kids and all stuff but I love it I love if I'm watching a good movie I want to be I still get loud but I gotta be downstairs that's like you know you go downstairs if you want to play your rockest music I got nowhere bro my whole house I can't even work on the ground I can't work on the garage I can't wait to make cave did you I can't work on the garage. I can't watch the mail. You need a man cave. It's all right.

I haven't accepted it, but I got four kids. I'm gonna have four kids here, so. That's it. My house, no. That brings kids down there with me and we rock out. 100% if and when the time comes when I do a build, like I will build a separate man cave. 100%.

That's like in the basement, total. Total heat wall. Yes. I can play this loud as I want. Yes. That's like, I'll drop weights, do whatever I want. Yes, yes, 100% that's on my list for speaking to family. I got this is this always this is just a Larissa. I just noticed something so I'm on this big family group thread with like aunts uncles cousins friends or whatever is a huge one right and man, who's you guys have like a biggest fan? You guys have someone in your family or biggest fan. Oh yeah, yeah.

So that's my mom. No fans, no shit. Anything I share, what would you say? I got no fans. Anything I share, I'll share anything at all, and my mom will always love it, she'll always heart it, and say something like, that's amazing. That's so sweet.

That's the greatest thing. And I just noticed the other day, I sent like a meme or something like that, and I'd saw it like a heart and like this comment, and I'm like, wait a minute, it's only my mom. That's like my stuff Nobody else is like We got started to people listening I know yeah, okay, you have you have family that listens. Yeah, I mean

Like really listens like really listen to Jackson honestly it's on I would say probably more on Courtney's side Like her sister or oh interesting. Honestly, it's on, I would say probably more on Courtney's side, like her sister or brother. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So yeah, my, like, so my parents will listen to like, when we do like certain interviews with people that they're interested in and that's about it.

But like Courtney would be like the next one, I would say probably listen to the most. Yeah. She used to not, so that's, she didn't. Yeah, so I think that's why I've been so like carefree about what I talk about. So if you're like, listen, I'm gonna roast you. I'm like, that's what you get.

I have a hand full family. I mean, my sister doesn't count because she works with a company, right? But she's been since day one. She's been a listener and a fan, even before she worked for the company. I have my cousin Stephanie shout out to her. You guys have been a member of her before.

I love her. Yeah, I love her. So she listens to the damn near episode. My uncle John, he listens to his uncle John. He listens to like almost every episode. He's always commenting. And then my mom's husband Lonnie, shout out to Lonnie, he always listens to, but my mom doesn't listen to.

Well, I have to, okay, so I have to be, like Jessica by far, as she listens to, in fact, she has people from Mind Pump send her the episodes before the air. Was she a fan before? Yes, you guys started dating? Yeah, 100%. Well, no, yes, she was actually. When I first met her, I had her subscribe to Mind Pump because you guys remember how aggressive we were early days.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got people's phones and just, that's right, you've got her phone. Yeah, I'm sure you're following her quick. I remember that, no. She was already subscribed. She, no, she wasn't. She became a fan. In fact, she told me that when she first listened,

at first she thought it was pompous. And I'm like, oh really? And she's like, I still think that. All right, anyway. But she still was, she hates what we referred to Mind Pump, right? Is that how we referred to Mind Pump like third person? Yeah, yeah. But no, she gets the we referred to mind pump, right? Is that how we referred to a mind pump like third person? Yeah, yeah.

But she, but no, she gets the episode to early listens every single one. She's my best critic because she's very honest. Yeah. But then yeah, it's my mom. She cracks me up because she'll listen to sometimes. That's sweet. And I'll know because she'll, every once in a while,

she'll say something like, oh, that joke you made. That was kind of little, I don't know if I like that joke. Like, I'm popular listening. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. My parents support, but they're like, well, it makes them too uncomfortable. I think the subject matter we bring up. So anyway, so I got, it's an interesting speculation.

I'd like, in fact, I thought about you, Adam, because you tend to speculate on this stuff a lot. And, so the more and more products and eventually entertainment will get produced by AI and machines and computers. Do you think that at some point, a label on a product that says human made is gonna make something more valuable and more expensive?

100%. I want 100%. I mean, and it's all gonna be good, right? So I think that so many things are gonna be created and made by AI and it's going to lower the entry for a lot of people. So things that maybe you could like mass production. That's right. Yeah. So you like shoes are example, right? We're not far, I think, from being able to 3D print sneakers and shoes. And so people who want to have a

certain look that looks like certain shoes or whatever, they can get them for relatively cheap. I think in the future, right? Obviously a 3D printer is expensive and that's not there, but we will get there at one point. And then what I think will be, and there'll still be a market for very high, and it'll be human-made stuff, handcrafted stuff. I think that we're gonna see the comeback of things

like that, things that are handmade or an artist and it's actually- Actually, video of them actually forging things. No, totally. You know why I agree with you? So I was thinking about this. So Ferrari, obviously one of the most expensive car brands, it's got a crazy lineage in history.

They advertise that, that's right. That's right. It's a big sell point. Handmade hand stitched. You see this with instruments. You see this watches? You see with watches instruments like there's guitars. There's You know, there's trumpets. There's violins that are the most expensive ones are the ones that are made handmade That's and that's and it's only are it's no different

It is no different than how it really is today the only difference is that a eyes is going to be able to Open up the opportunity for people that couldn't afford certain things before. Well now, and the car example to, per example, obviously not everybody can afford a Ferrari, but most people can afford somewhat of a car at this point now. Cars, you can get a pretty cheap car today

and because they, what, they mass produce them in factories and everything. And so that is 100% how I think AIs gonna happen. Music, we're gonna get reproduced, and you're gonna see it. You guys think it's gonna be like that with meat? Do you think that we're gonna see steak and it's gonna be like, this is from a real cow,

not lab-grown meat. I mean, aren't we seeing that right now? I'm gonna show a picture of the cow. Oh, cool. It's like grass-fed beef versus beyond meat right now. That's kind of the already the divide. There's people that... I'm talking about lab grown meat though,

because they can actually take stem cells. And at some point, they'll be able to print or make steak. Like here's your steak, it was grown in a lab. It was never a cow. Like I wonder if it's gonna be like that. Like I only eat meat, that's from actual animals. You don't want to eat lab. I want a whole montage of its life, you know,

the crazy thing. And you'll have a picture of it. And then like Sarah McLaughlin, before it's end. Well, you know, on the crazy, and you know, you'll have a picture of it. And then like, Sarah McLaughlin, move before it's end. Well, you know, it's funny, you know, it's funny about that, is that like, Pita activists, well, actually, they actually did this at one point.

They put name tags on stakes. Like, this cow was bessy. This cow was whatever. I'm like, that might actually sell more stakes in the future. I mean, it was a real cow. You know what I mean? I mean, I got a kick out in the future. I never saw Sally. What's Sally's gift? That's so annoying.

Hey, are you guys completely avoiding the stock market as anybody bought your stocks? No. No, I don't want to look. I bought some stocks. I know you've been kind of promoting it. Well, you know, it's down, dude. He's doing the right thing.

Yeah, I'm listening. I'm just, yeah, I'm just slow. So I get an absolute time on new. So basically, I've been averaging down listening, I'm just, yeah. I get an absolute time on a new, so basically I've been, I've been averaging down on all the stocks I already had. So that's, I'm not doing any, but I did buy a new stock. Actually, you know what stock I bought yesterday? What?

I bought it for Max too, so I think there's a, Krispy Kreme donut. Really? Yes, yeah. Wow. Look at that laugh of everything, he's terrible by, oh yeah, you know who they just partnered up with? Who?

McDonald's. Oh no. Krispy Kreme donut's coming in a 400,000 location. That's a duh. Go pull my ticker up there, Doug, You know who they just partnered up with who make donals. Oh It's coming in a Location that's a duh go pull my ticker up there. Doug while you're laughing blood my pull my ticker. Hold on hold on hold on He's just like because we're a fitness podcast Adam's got a portfolio marble He's I wasn't making it up. I hedged you my bets. I was trying to save all your lives. I'm trying to save all your lives. I'm trying to save all your lives.

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they were popping when I was out in Chicago, and it was like, it's just because, if especially it's fresh, and it's just like, it's, they've mastered whatever glaze, you know, like it's just like the perfect balance. I don't know, I don't like it. I like regular old winch holes, or. Yeah, I wanna go to a donut place

that looks grungy and dirty, and an old Asian lady comes out of four o'clock in the morning Yes, I mean I can get down with that is a good match. Oh, there's the one over there by the 24 he has to sleep in the place. Yes, she wakes up at four o'clock in the morning They don't just serve donuts. They also make sandwiches and barbecue. That's right. That's the place Yes, you know exactly don't think about it. She's gonna prime that is the best Best don't eat you hold it right there. How we doing over there, Doug? We're down today. We're down today.

It's not a bad buy. The only stocks that crush Adam or the ones you talk about but don't buy. You're gonna, it's like a weird. Exactly. I don't know that I like from those. I mean, I just threw a couple bucks out of from Max's portfolio.

But more than anything else, I was actually just interesting in the merger, right? Isn't that an interesting partnership? It's made a lot of sense. A brilliant. is portfolio, but more than anything else, I was actually just interesting in the merger, right? Isn't that an interesting partnership? It makes a lot of sense. Brilliant. Is it McDonald's crushing right now with their adult happy meals? Have you guys been reading about this?

Oh, I know they did. I don't know if they are crushing from their gauze. They were crushing. How is McDonald's stock doing right now? Are they doing all right? So I think right now is when the big monopoly game hits, right? Is that happened? Or did I miss that boat?

I don't know. I don't go to McDonald's enough to know that stuff. Oh, McDonald's is crushing 274 right now. Geez, they always do well. They did get like little prizes in their happy meals, right? That was the adult ones. Yeah, like a weird thing. But people collect them and they're, they got weird,

you know what's funny? I don't remember, I saw this a long time ago. There was this analysis of McDonald's customers, and there's a sizable percentage, I remember what the number was, but it was significant percentage of their customers that are such regular users that they can count on them to come every single day.

Wow. They have like a huge chunk of base of people that are like McDonald's every single day. I've never heard that. Yes, interesting. Yes, and that's like one of the single day. I've never heard that. Yes. Interesting. And that's like one of the keys of their success is they have this like crazy loyal. They all live in Ohio for some reason.

Where? No. It's just trying to throw a random one out. Hey, did you start? You just brought up Ohio. So you maybe think about the your Graham Hancock. Yes. I want to watch it.

I've been going through it. I've been going through quite a bit of it. Right now. Did you see the Ohio serpent or snake? Yeah, no, I didn't see that. Yes, the mound that's up there. That's why I was created. There's a lot of those. I'm just getting excited about the new discovered pyramids

that were like terraces that are on the side of mountains. That what sucks about it too is they're kind of protected and there was one in Mexico too that us apparently the biggest pyramid in the world. Yeah, but there's like some kind of like a Church that's on top that they had built so they can't excavate Which is really frustrating because they've excavated kind of the bottom of it And there's all these perfectly cut stones and you know They've been able to kind of go in and they see all these like, I don't know how many tunnels there are, but there's just tunnel systems everywhere. And it's, it would be so revealing if they could like excavate the whole thing.

So his whole, it's the, it's the, say that for me, quetzalcoatl. Quetzalcoatl. Quetzalcoatl. Quetzalcoatl. So that was the, there one like, the one figure that was like kind of like a Jesus figure that like taught him how to free it. That's the myth.

Yeah, civilization and all that, the myth. So his whole premise, which I think is a very reasonable premise. His whole premise is that human civilization is not as linear as we think. Well, I think of it as starting here and then improving. But what he's saying is we've been on earth for a long time and there probably was lots of progressions and then wiping out a civilization because of cataclysmic. So Katrina was trying to ask me, she goes, what's the controversy around him, right? Because obviously, as all these archaeologists, so what I said to her, and you guys could tell me, build on it or correct me, is we have our theory on how man evolved is basically that we were kind of dumb cavemen

way back with thousands of years ago, right? And you got stuff together only. Yeah. And so when stuff like this starts coming out and then dating back, way further back, way further back. And then and it aligns with the stars. And I mean, it's just like these guys had to been a lot smarter than what we think they were back then.

And that's kind of controversial based off of what how we're discovering all these ancient megalithic structures like underwater, under oceans, yeah, at that points back to ice age, ice age, because the oceans were, you know, a lot of it was sort of... Yeah, pre-flood. ...pre-flood stuff, right? To use it in the big, you know, glacial structures. And so it's like, there's just so much history that still needs to be uncovered. And the thing about archaeology, it's like they've created an entire timeline based off of like what they've been able to discover in the past.

But now these kind of interrupt that timeline. And so they have to kind of throw it out and be flexible and go back and revisit based on new evidence. And it seems like there's a lot of resistance. Which is what I heard in the documentary, which I thought was interesting is that, you know, you know, archaeology and what's the study of the stars? We can't think of astrology.

Astrology, thank you. So archaeology. Astrology. Astrology, thank you. Astrology. Thank you. So archaeology. Astronomy. Astrology. Thank you. The fuck is the horoscope stuff? Astrology. No, I'm sorry. Astrology and archaeology don't really communicate to each other. Is that correct? That's, I mean, and so that's what's interesting about this.

No, no. The reason why this is important is because so much of these ancient historical artifacts were designed to line up with completely different. Yeah, so astronomy is like the worldwide language that we all spoke before language, right? I mean, was the ability to look up the stars and notice that there's patterns and stuff like that. And so a lot of this stuff is pointing to that. And then the archaeologists, they don't utilize any of that. They're purely off of carbon dating and what this structure is made of.

In terms of the alignments, where they pointed specifically to different, what do they call those different seasons and things that come through? I forget what the names are, but yeah, the equinox. The equinox, or the, yeah, there's a few of those. Soelstice, summer solstice, so yeah, they're finding a lot of structures

were pointed very specifically to align with these different star structures. I mean, it sounds very reasonable to me. Yeah. It would be very easy for civilizations to get erased after cataclysmic events, you know, when you're talking about 10,000 years ago, 20,000 years ago, like we're not going to have really remnants of, you know, what they did. And yes, there probably were lots of, and there definitely were lots of hunter

gathers, but they could have existed simultaneously as more advanced. Now do we, do we, do we build things today that we intend, like if case this were to happen again, an ice age where they're going to see our ship for thousands of years, bro, we got plastic. They're gonna find plastic water bottles and ship like, this ancient civilization. They just had a bunch of containers. Whoa, there's just Legos. They were like putting it in.

Yeah, this is what they built their houses off. Because they're plastic Legos. Yeah. Yeah, our ship ain't going away then. No, bro. Unfortunately, we made a lot are shooting going away then. No, bro. Unfortunately, we made a lot of stuff that doesn't buy out of grade. Yeah, very well.

So anyway, interesting. All right, so more cool studies I'll bring up. I just read a cool study on red light therapy. So you guys know that red light therapy can help with healing and recovery and their studies will support this. I just read a study that showed that it reduced joint pain by 50% in people who used it, 50%.

That's very, very significant. They also had another one on Achilles tendon pain and there was a significant reduction in pain as well. So this is, yeah, so how long was the usage? They did it for, I wanna say 90 days, I believe, I'd have to go double check. But I mean, that's like, there's like, nothing does that. Yeah, that's crazy.

And it's natural. It's natural, nothing does that, and it's pro recovery and healing, not anti-healing, like a lot of anti-inflammatory stuff. Now, when you read something like that, what is that point to for you as far as like, what's going on for to have that powerful of an impact? The power of a congeur is that that,

is that mean that it's that impactful? Yep, yep. It literally supercharges the mitochondria and they produce more collagen, more, what are they called, fibroblasts, which create the structures of collagen, reduces inflammation because it speeds up the waste removal process.

So basically it's like red light is like fuel for the mitochondria. So when you hit them with red light, they operate better and faster. So healing happens faster. Inflammation is regulated better. And it's crazy. If you look up the, it sounds like magic. If you look up the studies, there's a lot. it's crazy if you look up the state sounds like magic if you look up the studies

There there's a lot. It's not like one side. There's a lot of You know when you talk about the stuff. I can't help but think that we're heading towards total recall But because it was always all it was all red lit up, you know And I know they do that because it's a Mars is on Mars, right? But they it was red lights all over the place too. Like, could you imagine if the future is instead of us having these fluorescent lights, which we've already proven is not ideal for us, that just we get used to having red lights on us

all the time. Why don't we have in our cars as we commute? Well, that's different. You know, yeah. You can overdue too. So, oh, you can. The actual red light that you would get from like a jive panel,

you could definitely over, that's why they say 20 minutes a day. They don't tell you to use it all day long. You could over stimulate or you could cause problems if you over, you know, if you use it too much. Just regular red lights, not the same. Like we put red light bulbs on. That's not the same thing as... No, I know, but I mean the technology that's in Drew, if it makes its way into your lights in your house, why would it not do that? Because it's just too much. It would be too much. Yeah, you only want to do it focused

and you only do a certain period of time. Otherwise, it would be cool to have a switch. You know, like, you could have a timer or you would. Right, right, after it's been on for X amount in the day or what, I would think it's up in my ceiling since it's a tall. It's not your, like, the same impact as you are standing six inches from a juvenile.

Yeah, no, I think it would be too much and probably really expensive. Could you imagine how expensive that would be? It is right now. That's before AI makes itve line. Yeah, no, I think it'd be too much and probably really expensive. Could you imagine how expensive I'd be? Yeah, he's right now. That's before AI makes it for us. Yeah. You can say, now even poor people might be like. It might just be like shower, red light,

and then like cold plunge in. So, and then you go to bed, or something. That's what I've been trying to see how, I want to build my Juve, like hang over me by a shower. So I'm in the shower twice a day every day and it's a nice little, that's like the perfect amount of time. Like I'm trying to find a way to mount it and then also do it to where like the steam doesn't,

isn't it? Yeah, so I want to figure out how to do that to where it's like it just boom, I hit the switch while I'm showering, I'm getting hit with my red light and then when I'm out then it's done. Yeah. Because that's the only thing right now I have to like, take the effort to outside of what I already do,

which like anything else, when it's not part of your normal routine, it takes discipline to stay consistent with it. And I notice a difference on my skin when I'm consistent on it, when I'm consistent on it, it makes a big difference. But I also notice that if I'm not consistent with it, it's like exercise. You gotta ritualize it.

It's like exercise. You stop doing it, then you stop getting the effect. Yeah. And then along those lines, more health study. So low melatonin production at night has been connected in animals, and they do think this happens to humans as well, to leptin resistance, which then of course leads to insulin resistance. So they think that that this could be contributing to the rise in the more recent rise in things like diabetes is that people are just not getting sleep like they should.

They're up on their electronics all night long, not producing enough melatonin. And because of that, they're getting, you know, leptin resistance and insulin resistance as a result. So I think, and we made the speculation before, I think blue light blocking glasses are gonna be at some point, just you pick, like everyone's gonna have to use them. Yeah. Just cause the amount of life.

You know what's interesting about that is that I remember when they first came out and the dumb commercials when we were kids and their parents had them, so that's not like this is like super new technology. It's not like it's super new science. But they promoted more for driving, I think. It was. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. It was with the bright lights that were getting you

were hitting at night time. They would tell you to wear it. They were actually telling you promoting you to wear it at night. Yeah, you're driving with this late at night. Yeah, it's probably way too late. Well, the new technology with blue light blocking glasses is like what Felix Ray has, which is it's clear it's clear lenses Because the technology before was you put them on and everything's yellow or orange and then you look like you know Dave Asprey. Well, you know obviously we knew the value of a back then

Or else it wouldn't even hit the mark in the it because it blew up I'm sure blue blockers made a ton of money back then So we knew the value and the science you but then the difference is, you know, TVs, computer screens and phones today. We're on a way more now. Way more and way closer. You cannot tell me that staring at that these these phones and these iPads. You've ever seen the meme you've ever seen the meme where you're like, you know, kids in the 90s and our moms were yelling at us for being too close to TV. And then it's like today. And then they got

the VR class. You see that? Have you seen that? Yeah, yeah. You guys remember that, dude, that was like, the big pitch was like, you can't be too close to the TV. Oh, yeah, we had a yellow down all the time. My mom would always tell me,

Scoot back, get close to the TV, get back, yeah. Now we're like, we're all in, dude. I want to contact lens that shines the internet in my eyeball. I didn't want any space. I mean, you guys think that worked. So I actually was listening Yeah, we're like, I want to contact lens that shines the internet in my eyeball. Yeah, I don't want any space. I mean, you guys think that work. So I actually was listening to, by the way, okay, so I promised that I would bring a person to shout out every, every quad going forward.

And so a recent podcast that I've been listening to is Ryan Pineda has a podcast called The Wealthy Way on YouTube. I watched a couple interviews already that I really liked the conversation. So if you're into, he's a real estate house flipper guy. I don't know if it's a clip. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, I sent you guys over some stuff

of him talking to Grant Cardone. They actually got it, what made me think of that and the one that came up was that they were talking about metaverse and NFTs and crypto. You guys saw it happen with the FTX, right? Like, I mean, that's like the dude. The amount of money that got lost to that. There's a little money laundering.

Yeah, I was gonna see around them. I'm more kind of emerging from that story, right? Yeah, well, so the founder, which is named Sam, whatever, he was basically, almost like a Ponzi. Yep. He owned both companies, he was basically, you know, almost like a Ponzi. He was, he owned both companies and he was, do you know, so here's the, they're gonna get, like these crypto companies are gonna get so regulated

because so if you're a bank, which by the way, okay, I agree. But the irony of that is that was what everybody touted was gonna be so amazing about this technology. He's decentralized. He's decentralized. Meanwhile, if you believe it's gonna stick around now, almost everybody believes it needs to be regulated

by the SEC. So it's like, okay. All you need is one of these assholes to run it. And which brings me back to my original argument of why, I'm gonna hang back and wait until I see that which one the government gets behind. Because whichever one they get behind is the one that's gonna be the most profitable.

It's gonna do well. So if you're a bank, you're not allowed to or credit union, right? You're not allowed to use your depositors funds to fund your business. You're not allowed to touch that. Okay, that's a big no no. It's like you go straight to jail, right? Right. What these crypto companies do, if they, if they're not labeled as a bank or

whatever, and that's what they did, is they funded their business with their depositors money. That's how it was like a Ponzi scheme. And that's real bad. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that's real bad. Well, and I think it just highlights, that was one of the big ones, FTX, right?

That was a massive one. You had people like Steph Curry, you had people like Tom Brady that had hundreds of millions of dollars in it and it went under like that. But so many of these coins are just grifts, dude. There's got all these people that are just creating these tokens and you know, attaching them to random, it's like, dude, this whole thing is coming up undone right now. We're gonna make a coin.

Yeah, a pump coin. Pump coins. So I just think that we're much further away from all of it being integrated the way everybody thought it was going to be. I think that the metaverse thing is a ways away. I think NFTs are a ways away. Yes, I believe in the technology. Yes, I think we're going to use in the future.

But again, speculating on what company is the company today is like speculating on what company was going to come out of the dot com. I think these are, I mean, I think a lot of us just talking points for these companies. You know, it's like, we're doing all these things. And this is what's happening. Like, they're speaking like it's going to be a couple of years. When in fact, I think it's going to be a lot further. I don't think that they're, they're, they've quite figured all the stuff out. Well, there's certain things that it makes a ton of sense for. Like, I see a lot of value with

NFTs with things like houses and watches and cars, to be able to attach like the owner's. A digital certificate. Yeah, imagine having a digital certificate to things like a, like a, like a, it'd be so hard to steal a car. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, things in a watch, like to make sure that, I mean, there's a huge aftermarket in the watch game and so like that, and to know, to make sure it's authentic, like, man, they make fake watches really, really good now, fake shoes really, really good now. It's hard to, but if you had it authenticated by an NFT, I could see Trim and his guy. Who disrupting ticket master and all that.

So like artists can basically run their own kind of, it's not easy to me was when it was like the board eight, you know, that thing where it turned into this thing where where it's like oh, it's gonna be this community in metaverse and you know The all these famous people are gonna hang together and if you pay $100,000 you'll have access to them too. It's like that it to me that was stupid like this idea that You know everybody is gonna like what happens when those people don't that's not cool anymore It's what happens when it's like spinners You know, I'm saying and you's what happens when it's like spinners.

You know what I'm saying? And you spit all your money on hell of spinners. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna be good at that. Next thing, man. Yeah. Glowing rain. Growing the dark spinners.

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First question is from Michael Trenler. How do you target your chest during dips? I only feel my triceps. Oh yeah, you know, what's interesting about dips is it could become like a, like literally just changing your form, can make it like a awesome chest exercise or make it an awesome tricep exercise. It'll change the emphasis. 100%.

Flare the elbows, chest forward. That's it. Lean forward, bring the elbows out. And so, you know, when you're doing an exercise, you don't want to hit a target muscle, consider the action of the muscle, right? So the action of the chest is to bring the elbows out. And so, you know, when you're doing an exercise, you wanna hit a target muscle, consider the action of the muscle, right? So the action of the chest is to bring the humerus from out here, so that's the upper arm,

towards the midline of your body. So it's pulling this part of your arm in, not extending the elbows, extending the elbows of triceps. So you wanna focus on that, almost like you're trying to squeeze your hands together as you're coming up on the dip. Like a decline bench press. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm thinking about when I do a dip

for my chest, I'm thinking about the same feel of when the bar is being lower down on a decline press. I mean, that's what I'm, and you're doing that by leaning the chest forward, flaring the elbows out and then going really deep too so getting a nice good stretch on there and you should feel stretch. And then the opposite is true.

When you want triceps, you want triceps, you stay more upright, and you tuck the elbows in and you stay tight. That's it. So it's elbow extension versus, what is that? Humoral horizontal adduction. But that being said,

it's also important to note though too that, it's very much so a tricep exercise too. So it's like, you know, it's not like you isolate the chest, and then there's no triceps. That's the growth of that up, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not like you isolate the chest and then there's no triceps. That's to break that up, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, you emphasize one or the other. That's right, that's right.

So it's not like, you know what I really like about dips? Is it's one of the few chest, it's also worse the shoulder's quite a bit. It's one of the few chest shoulder exercises with where you can really go, I mean, under control, right? You have to have good control, good stability, so make sure you train within your parameters of control, which is different from person to person,

but you can work up to a really crazy range of motion. I, in fact, I can't think of an exercise where you can really work a range of motion like a dip, where you're putting the chest and the shoulders in this really crazy deep stretch. Super-and-range. Which we just talked about at the beginning of the episode. Muscles into stretch position, especially under load,

they tend to stimulate more muscle growth. And they show this with other, when they compare exercises, for example, exercises that put a muscle under stretch tend to build more muscle than ones that don't. Not saying that's all you should do because there's value in all of them. But dips are an underrated chest exercise,

if you ask me, I really think you could. So it's a compliment to bench for us too, just because you are getting so low there, like, you know, in that sticking point in the chest, where I'm at the bottom position, and I have to really dig my way out, you know, dips, if you go super low with that, it'll really help to strengthen that part of the lift. How do I present, to know, dips if you go super low with that, it'll really help to strengthen

that part of the list. 100% and to me, that's like a deficit debts versus a commissional debt lifts. Like you working deficit debts helps you with that in range like that and digging out from the bottom where that's kind of the same thing when you do dips, you can do dips really deep like that helps you dig out the bottom of the chest. Yeah, the other thing is that a lot of people don't realize you can load dips. If you get a weight belt, yeah, if you get a weight belt where you get a bench, you can stand on a bench

so you're in the kind of top position and then you can bend your knees or clear the bench so you can go all the way down. You can load around a chain that goes around your way to what do they call it, I think it's called a weight belt. You can load the hell out of it. So like a bench press, it could be a really heavy pushing exercise.

I mean, I've worked up to close 150 pounds around my waist. What's cool about that to that point is I feel safer loading a dip like that where I may be able to get two or three reps out than I would a barbell by myself. If I'm doing a barbell bench press by myself, like I'm gonna put a weight on there

that I feel pretty confident I can get five reps in Yeah, otherwise I'm pinned. But with that, you can bail a lot easier. So that's why I actually really like it for going heavy because I feel safer when I'm by myself. Next question is from Ryan Elnoki. Is it better to cut with or without refeeds and cheat days? All right, yes and no. So here's the yes. The yes is, it's better to cut, or in other words, it's better to have a calorie deficit, but include days where your calories are higher,

maybe even a slight surplus, because this, look, it looks like, okay? So there's not a ton of evidence for this, but there's a lot of anecdotal evidence. It seems like this prevents the, what's called metabolic adaptation that happens when you're in a cut. In other words, when you cut your calories, your metabolism starts to slow down

to make up the difference. And in the studies that I've seen, when you interrupt that cut with days that are higher calorie, less of that happens, you tend to keep more muscle and you tend to burn more body fat as a result. Now here's the no part, calling it a cheat day. That's where I'm against, because now what you're doing is you're emphasizing

or strengthening this relationship where cutting is restricting and you know, binging or cheat days is like, oh, this is great and you do this on, off type of deal, where you're always either on point or you're totally off. I mean, in a perfect world. So like when I was competing,

obviously this is a lot of what I would be doing, right? Getting as I'm cutting for a show. The refeed day is all the meals ended up getting a half cup more rice in them or a half cup rice plus I enjoyed an avocado in two or three of the meals. Yeah, now a cheat day doesn't usually work that way. No.

A cheat day's like, what it ends up doing, and I did go, I did mess around with it. So I'm not saying that I didn't play around with eating out, but what I found was when I did that, it was hard to stay away from that. Like once you introduce anybody who's ever gone on our strict diet,

you notice after a couple weeks of eating really clean whole foods, you start to lose those cravings. Like I no longer want the greasy burger, those things like that. I'm like, oh man, my system feels so good. I'm actually craving a healthy, and like that's a really good place to be.

You know a good way to fuck that up? Have a cheat day. Go have a bunch of greasy fast food and then see if you're not craving it the next day or two. And then now while you're doing this thinking about my cheat day on sat, I can't wait to get to Saturday because I've all week I've been thinking like that is a your you are. You're setting yourself up for failure. You're promoting a bad relationship with food. The idea of. We see the little more of what you normally. That's right. The science that we know about the refeed

and the higher calorie days, I 100% agree with. And I think that the move is for you to just increase the meal sizes that you're having already would be a much smarter approach to getting the benefits scientifically of increasing calories for a day and then going back down, then allowing a day where you're gonna let this food creep in, that's gonna kick up all these cravings

that now I'm gonna be thinking about it all week long. Yeah, that's 100%. That's 100% how I used to advocate for it, because first off, when you bump your calories, Grellen tends to go up anyway, which makes your appetite go up. But when you introduce new and novel foods that also have effects on dopamine and serotonin,

and other reward systems of the brain, what you're gonna do is make it exactly what Adam said. You're gonna make it much harder to stick to later on. Plus it, using the word cheat makes it seem like the way you're eating before. You can't eat any other way anyway. And cheating is like you're breaking the rules. It's all part of your diet, like it's all part of it.

Whether we eat a burger or pizza. I'm glad you said that too, Sal, because then there's these other things where it's like in a nice setup, my refy day, I would plan on like the night that I went out to dinner with Katrina on Friday night. Right. And then what I end up doing is I hit my macro targets

and then I know that I'm dinner, I'm gonna go over a little bit. And I'm gonna enjoy the bread on the side or the mashed potatoes and gravy and so with that with my juicy steak. And I'm not gonna freak out about exactly what it is because I don't know because I didn't weigh it and measure it myself.

And guess what, today was the day I was supposed to have a little bit higher calorie day. So to me, that is the perfect way to try and have a refeed day is to plan it around a day or a night that's important. I'm going to the game, I'm going to the warrior's game. And that's like it's real life. Yeah, it reminds me of, it would be like this.

It would be like, instead of having recovery days, I'll work out and then I have days where I recover, we're gonna call recovery days lazy days. Let's just do that. So hey, how many lazy days have you scheduled? Like think of the difference of a relationship that that would create with exercise. If you didn't have recovery days, you had lazy days.

That's certainly a mindset going into it. 100%. So a cheat day is like a lazy day. It's not a cheat day. It's just, I'm gonna eat more today to fuel my body to prevent metabolic adaptation, and it feels good. I'm gonna have better workouts. And it's just different.

Now, if you wanna make it burgers and pizza on that day, that's fine too, but how you label things, what you call things, how you consider things, makes a big difference. Well, I know that, because Adam already brought up the fact that like cheat days, a lot of times people will bring in all this like garbage and stuff, and then you bring the cravings, you ramp all that back up.

It's already challenged enough to increase your calories and then go right back to the deficit to interrupt that. Because a lot of people mentally, it's like, if I'm going to try and stick with this, I just want to hit a rhythm. And I want to keep going with that same amount. And to interrupt that, we know that it's more beneficial. I know it's already more challenging for my clients to even just do that part.

And now you're gonna add in like foods that will promote more cravings on top of that. So it's like, that's where I definitely cost. My traditional refeed day when I was doing this with landed on Fridays, and it almost always was sushi night dinner with Katrina. It was, and the way I looked at it was, I always scheduled my low calorie days during the week.

So I'm dialed, I'm eating out of my tub where every single day, and then on Fridays, that would be due for the increase in calories. I'd still eat my tub where normal meals, but then Friday night, I go with my wife, we go have a nice sushi. It's not connecting with you, what? Yeah, I'm not like overly counting or worrying. I know I'm probably gonna eat in a soup. You not connecting with your wife. Yeah, I'm not overly counting or worrying.

I know I'm probably gonna eat in a soy. You know what I'm supposed to, and I'm having to enjoy some rolls. Yeah, you know what people end up doing with quote unquote cheat days, that I've noticed this really, it's not a great behavior. It's, they're eating alone.

It's like, today's my cheat day. Oh, I can't wait to go eat all this garbage, and they'll bring it home, and they'll eat by themselves. Yeah. And in gourds, like porn. Yeah. 100% exactly. Or they'll find another person who's dieting,

and we're all gonna go together and go and cheat together. The mentality's totally wrong. But refeeds, and I don't think it's much more beneficial to not be on a consistent cut, but rather interrupt it with days of higher calories. Next question is from court, Jim fit. What are the best foods for bulking? What do you suggest for upping calories?

All right. That's funny. We just, we just kind of goes in line with what I was just saying with reefy days. Totally. So the best foods for bulking, the first criteria that I always consider is digestibility because the biggest challenge with eating more food is things like blow indigestion, heartburn, constipation, like just digestive issues, and that'll prevent you

from eating the calories. You know how important what you're saying is, this is literally what limited me from being able to build 10, 15, 20 pounds of muscles through more muscle on my body over the course of my teenage and early 20 years. Because I thought, because I eat McDonald's super size and extra, oh man, I got to be so high in calorie,

but what I wasn't accounting for was after I ate that, I was so backed up for the next four, five hours. You don't have a friend, anything else in? Yeah, I didn't eat any of it. Not to mention, the macro profile was way off. I had a little bit of protein, mostly carbs and saturated fat. So I got a bunch of calories, but then I didn't eat anything, not to mention the macro profile was way off. I had a little bit of protein, mostly carbs and saturated fats. I got a bunch of calories, but then I didn't hit my protein intake. Then I wasn't hungry for four or five hours.

Understanding, actually, when I made that switch to eating like leaner, leaner for a lower and saturated fats, higher protein, good digestible carbs, potatoes, rice, sweet potato, yams. I was able to hit my macros and get my calories up, which was so weird for me as a young kid that was trying to build because I assumed, because I could never, I had a hard time putting weight on, that I justified the behaviors around eating whatever food, and a lot of times they were food

that was not ideal digestibility was. That's the same thing. And it kept me from building a little bit. Yeah, it went from any calories at all costs To calories that I can digest and that I'll be able to eat again later on way better the first Successful bolt I ever did where I really put on muscle I want to say I was 16 or 17 years old and that's when I pieced this together Where instead of eating a bunch of bread and pasta, which I don't digest gluten super well, and a bunch of cereal and candy and sodas,

I went rice, ground beef, and vegetables. I remember buying, is the first time I went and bought some groceries myself, and I went and bought a bunch, and my mom helped me cook it up, because that's what time moms do, they cook your food for you. And I ate ground beef and rice and vegetables and I gained over that summer. I gained like 10, 12 pounds of muscle,

which was a lot for a kid. And it was all because I could digest it. Like I need this big meal, two hours later, three hours later, I could eat again. Whereas before I eat this huge meal, and I was just, oh, the next one was just a chore. And I couldn't eat those calories. So I can't stress how important that is.

And because I think when you're trying to gain and you have a hard time putting weight on and building muscle, you easily justify the other foods and you don't realize what you're doing. So oatmeal became my staple with some way protein in there that I would end up getting rice and chicken thighs and vegetables. And then a juicy steak at the end of the night with more potatoes or rice, like all these foods that were very, because what I noticed was, I'd be hungry, I could eat again in two or a thousand.

Where if I ate the togo sandwich with chips in a soda, I didn't wanna eat for four or five hours. I had the McDonald's, I had the fast food, that was high calorie. I wasn't getting enough high-good quality protein, and I wasn't hungry until four or five years later. Yeah, what I would do, like terrible, like dirty bulk, where I would like eat a meal and then I thought I had to have

this like crazy ridiculous shake in conjunction with that. It would be like this meal and then that on top of the meal and it was just like overwhelming to where I'd had like gastrointestinal problems, I was fighting, you know, like all day long, and then trying to eat on top of that, it's almost impossible. Bro, do you remember, I don't know if you guys,

I mean, as a teenager, before I figured this out, I would eat these ridiculous meals, because I just like calories, and then I'd sit in class, and just my stomach, bro, yeah, bro. Oh, I don't feel good. This is what Bolt-D-Man's talking. Yeah, and then I justifies like, well, bulking,

you know, it's only for hardcore people, so I'm just gonna force myself to something. It's all about force, like keep forcing it in. No, digestibility is real important. So best foods for most people, the most easily digestible foods include red meat, white meat, fish, and then vegetables, well-cooked vegetables, are easier to digest than raw vegetables,

and then carbohydrates, white rice, buckwheat, oatmeal, can be potatoes. Potatoes, sweet potatoes. Potatoes, sweet potatoes. I think sweet potatoes are even better than potatoes for digest. I can eat way more sweet potatoes than regular potatoes. Yeah, I could do balls pretty well, but I mean, I really think that's okay.

That's one of my favorite dishes. You said it already with ground beef mixed with white rice, man, I could eat like a, I make a, and you can make it in bulk. It's reasonably inexpensive if you buy it in bulk too, so you buy the ground beef mixed with white rice, man. I could eat like a, and you can make it in bulk. It's reasonably inexpensive. If you buy it in bulk too, so if you buy the ground beef in bulk, you can buy it. Cook the rice in bone broth.

You got yourself a high calorie, you'd rice bowl. Tastes good, goes down really easy. I can eat it again two hours later. Like that was such a staple, that and chicken thighs and though, and either the rice or sweet potatoes, like those are like the staple meals for me, which sounds funny because you're eating healthy and pointy. They sound like, yeah, exactly.

They sound like cutting foods. They do, and it is actually, you just less of it, right? So that's really the strategy is eating more of the healthier foods, and I think the mistake that most people make that struggle with putting weight on is their food choice. Next question is from usually Lauren, for someone who can't digest way protein powder, what's

the best alternative protein powder? Okay, so good question, because way protein is the gold standard. It's got high branch shaming of acid and essentially amino acid content, high leucine. So it's really this kind of anabolic muscle building hormones got health benefits. So way protein is great. Unfortunately, it's dairy based and a lot of people have issues with dairy. Even when they remove the lactose, people have issues like, I'm one of those, right?

So it's not the lactose, it's just dairy proteins in general. So I can't have ways. So okay, what are the other solutions for protein powders? Okay, so you could try egg protein powders. That's very high quality. Now, here's the issue with egg protein powders. They also tend to cause digestive issues and people have adjusted their fumes involved. Yes, it's protein.

Yes, so that can be issues. So you could go, when you're looking at the plant-based one, pea protein seems to have the best amino acid profile. But when you go on with plant proteins, you tend to want to have a blend. You want to blend of different types of vegan sources because you'll get a better amino acid profile. And then you want digestive enzymes in that protein powder. But P protein is one of the better ones. College and protein or bone broth protein consider a lower quality protein because it's low in essential amino acids. However, it's one of the easiest digesting proteins you'll find anywhere. In fact, it's one of the only protein powders that would be recommended to people with gut issues. In fact, when you have gut issues, one of the things they do is they tell you have more bone broth

or have collagen protein because it helps repair the gut. Well, you might be asking, well, it's not as good of a protein as way. Well, here's how you make up the difference. You have more of it. So I could have a ton of collagen protein. And that makes up for the fact that it's not as high in essential amino acid. How do you feel about beef isolate? Some people are great with beef isolate. Yeah, some people are really, really good with beef isolate. And if you find some, here's a problem that I found with beef isolate proteins, is that read the label, it'll say like beef protein, read the label, they'll often add dairy

to the beef isolate protein. Oh, really? Yes, it's so, like, yeah, I've found like three, right? Look, and like, oh, this looks good, and then I'll try it, but like, why is this messing me up? Then I'll read the label like an idiot, after I took it, and I'll be like, oh, that's nice. They added dairy to this. Why the hell did I buy this?

Well, I see everybody's posting your paleovalid bone broth now. So after you talked about it, everybody's been sharing it. And I do see everybody saying how amazing it was. Well, you know, bone broth and collagen are interesting. It's, yes, it's true. It's not as anabolic as way. But again, it's so easy to digest. You could just have it, like I could have a hundred gram. And I do this all the time, I'll have a hundred grams of bone broth protein

in a shake and feel fine. I can't do that with any other protein powder. That'll totally mess me up. So a hundred grams of bone broth protein is that going to be as effective as let's say 40 grams away? Yeah, it's way more protein. So it makes up. Well, we know this was studied. It's like conversation we just have about the fast food. Yeah. I mean, when you when you're trying to build Calories is part of the game right like you got to get more calories. So you think that having this 1500 calorie or 1700 calorie meal would be ideal, but not if it fucks up

You know you can't digest it right? So if you can't digest it And you and you don't want to eat for four or five hours later again Well, then it kind of defeats the purpose. The same thing goes with the way protein. It could be the best protein in the world, but if it upsets your stomach, well then you're better off getting something that's even a little bit lower quality, but you can do more of.

Now, the other thing about collagen protein, it actually suppresses your appetite for a long way. Way is a really good bulking protein because it tends to have a very negative, it doesn't have a huge effect on appetite. So if you're trying to pound calories and you can tolerate it way, it's great. Collegiate is great for dieting because it actually suppresses appetite more than almost any of the protein that they've studied. So, and I think it's because

of the way that it sits in the stomach or in the system, but you'll take it and you'll feel full longer. So if you're trying to cut, that's another option. But, you know, again, vegan sources, pee is the best, blends are even better, egg protein phenomenal, but digestive issues, a lot of times with that. Beef protein isolates good, and then collagen, or bone broth. That's that's right. Ten to go. Look, if you like mine pump, head over to minepumpfree.com and check out our guides. We have guides that are free that can help you with almost any health or fitness goal. Again, they cost nothing. You can also find all of us on social media. So Justin is on Instagram, my pump Justin.

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