Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 196: Do you like it fast or slow?

Episode Date: December 4, 2015

Another forgotten and underused technique to improve strength and build muscle is tempo. Sal, Adam and Justin reveal how to vary your tempo to accelerate your gains. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpradio.com

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Oh, it's moist. Oh, that's nice. How's that cake? Oh, it's moist. I was running, I got a little moist. Yeah, and everybody gets grossed out over the word moist. I'm bringing it back, fuck that shit. I know, who doesn't like moist?

I haven't thought of that. That's true. I came here the last time I heard moist before right now. Well, it's fallen out of favor and then people think it's a gross word. It's not a gross word. No cut is a gross word That's not no, it's not a That's that a gross word. It's a bulgar word. Okay, but if you're from England It's not if you're from England. It's like my buddies English every other word is kind everything Yeah, like a term of endearment. Oh everything calls me country Kunti. Hey, what's up my Kunti?

It's like not a big deal, but in America, you say Kunt is like, ah, everybody, like right now people are freaking out. He just said Kunt. Yeah, they're turning it down. Yeah, well, it's like the cigarettes will be my brother right there. Like this guy was coming up from behind me.

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Don't call me a bum. How dare you. I'm a hard worker. Yeah. And no, the slings are definitely different in the different, in the different countries. Different countries like, so I have, I love aluminum. Aluminium?

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Fitness. Fitness in your eyes. You know what I was thinking about the other day? Working out. What? A subject that a lot of people don't talk about enough and that's how you can change the rep speed, that variable of rep speed and how that can, yeah.

You know how that can, that's one of my favorite things in that's worth. Really? So now we're gonna talk about jazz-resize. Yeah. No, no, I want into entry point. Well, tell me about your tempo, Adam. Well, I actually, I like to,

it's one of those things, it's kind of like one of those forgotten tools I feel like. People do a lot of other crazy stuff before they do something as simply as slowing down. And to be honest with you, very, very rarely does anyone, everyone thinks they're training hypertrophy, but very few people are as far as if you, if you would have brought you down from a tempo perspective, right?

Maybe from a repetition, everyone thinks because they're doing into 12. Yeah, eight to 12 reps, they're, they're following in that hypertrophy phase, but then when you actually look at their, their tempo, it's closer to like a power phase where they're dropping down going right back up. Well, that's the natural tendency, like, everybody seems to have because like any kind of load is stressful, right? And so it's stressful. The body's immediate reaction is let's get this over with.

Yeah. Let's get this off of you in the most efficient, fast way possible. Whereas, you know, a lot of these, like if you can manipulate the tempo enough, you're going to get a lot more benefit in a different way. Oh, and this is, I'm so glad you brought this up. I had no idea you were going to talk about this. And this was You like we talked about it before we turn a like

This was so random. Yeah, right so glad We held a prep before every show. What are you talking about? No, so it's like one two three go I just feel like a lot of people don't understand too that There's more benefits when it comes to building muscle, okay, from the eccentric phase of the exercise and when you're talking about training a hypertrophy phase, it should be about a four-second, you know, negative, which is long. Very long. Like it's a thousand, one thousand, two thousand, three thousand, four. Who the fuck lowers that slow? Very few. One. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very slow. And like I said, there is more benefit happening

in that eccentric phase, especially when you follow a protocol like that when you're doing hypertrophy training, then there is for you doing like in a power phase. It's different the way you're hitting the body. So I rarely ever see anybody truly train with repetitions like that. And I think it's such an important. Well, I think the key with tempo is to use it as a variable to play with it because fast

tempo has its benefits, slow tempo has its benefits, a super slow tempo has benefits also. You know, back in the, I believe this was during World War II There were You couldn't get iron like if you wanted to buy dumbbells and barbells and stuff iron was hard to come by because they had to ration it for You know the big war machine to to fight overseas and so a lot of gyms had Wates that would go up to like 20 pounds like they couldn't get big weights because you couldn't come by iron So bodybuilders of the day and strong men of the day developed what's called super slow motion training.

I don't know if you guys ever heard of this. I've actually trained like this before. You have? Yeah. Literally like a 10, 15 second negative. It's even longer. You really do one, one maybe two reps. Yeah, and you're taking anywhere between 15 to 30 seconds

for the concentric and the eccentric. So if I'm taking, let's say I'm doing a bench press and I have, I don't know, however much weight on it, it takes 30 seconds to bring it all the way up to the top and then 30 seconds to come all the way back down. It's grueling. It does build a lot of endurance. It's a lot longer time under tension.

Let's just, you know, put that out there because the time under the tension, I mean, if you're talking about overall volume, if you do that on a slow rate and you're lifting like less load, but the tension is there a lot longer, you know, that's where the benefit is. So if you're if you're working towards, you know, volume where I'm just doing I'm doing things at a regular pace, I I'm gonna have to lift a lot more reps to get all that time under tension. Yeah, and the reason why I like this so much

is because people, and you know me, and you guys are the same way, we love things that people forget to do. Yep. And the variables that people think about nowadays are changing the exercise, and that's it. So, oh, I'm gonna do a different exercise. You know, the temple of your rep is a huge variable.

If I do a bench press traditional versus a super slow motion bench press or an explosive bench press, that's almost three different exercises in just the way they affect the body. And some level is safer too, right? I mean, you're controlling that weight. That's a great point because that's when I utilize it a lot too. So when I have a lot of clientele that are older and we have lots of in balance is going on. Like Doug's age.

He hates that so much. He hates that when I do that. And, you know, and, you know, injury, I'm concerned about injury more so that I am getting maximizing our gains. I might tell that client like, hey, instead of us, even though I know you could probably handle another 15, 20 pounds, we're going to just going to slow your repetition down. So I'm just really focused on the negative, I want you to count, and then I make them do it and then just slow the repetition down. I mean, that's another way to intensify the workout without increasing weight.

You know, it's not always have to be weight, not always has to be repetitions. Actually, tempo can be just as effective. And honestly, it's probably the most overlooked out of those three tools. So for most people, it'd probably be the most effective if you actually started to focus on that right now, because more than likely, if you're listening this radio show and you're somebody who works out already consistently or have been for years, you probably mess with sets, you probably mess with reps and exercises, but how often do you manipulate tempo? Right, and it should be just as much as those.

Right, and I'll give you an example. If I go to do pull-ups and let's say, if I just rep them out, I could do, I don't know, right now, probably around 20, right? 20 something. I could add weight around my waist, which is a great thing to do. That works, I do that all the time.

Or I can say to myself, instead of adding weight, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do some slow ass reps. And I'm gonna baby be able to get eight slow ass reps. What does that mean? So I'd- So I'd- So I'd go really slow with my repetitions,

and I might only get eight of them. And the intensity's gone up tremendously, and I'm within a lower rep range now without having to add weight around my waist. And this is a tool you can do with almost any exercise. And some exercises are better for this than others. For example, it's impossible to do really slow motion repetitions with Olympic lifts. Like you can't do that. You can't do that slow motion. Please don't. Try. Like, you can't do that. You can't do that. That slow motion.

Please don't. Please try that. Because you'll hurt yourself. But like a squat. Well, I bet you crossed it. Squats would try. Yes. Well, it's hard, bro.

And then there's also perceived, like, trying to move the bar faster, even if you don't. Like, if I'm lifting a really heavy weight, and I'm doing, let's say, a set of three reps with a really heavy weight, I can try to come up as fast as I can in my squat, for example. I'm not gonna move very fast, it's a heavy ass weight.

But just the fact that I'm trying to apply that speed to the bar, studies have shown over and over and over again, I will recruit more muscle fibers, I'll get better results, as a result. So even if you just perceive that you're trying to move the bar faster, even if the bar is moving slow. So that's another way of paying attention. Really it's about paying attention to these variables.

Well, it's very similar to what we just did recently with deadlifts all of us together. For all of us can deadlift three plates easily. Right. And but sometimes what we'll do is we'll go in there and today we're gonna move three plates as fast as we can. I'm saying we're going to rip it up, set it back down, rip it up, set it back down. And then other days we're going to grind it out.

It's going to be more of a grinding type of lift. So those are even though it's a less weight, it still can be just as effective because we're manipulating tempo. You don't always have to progress with weight or repetitions. That's just it. I feel like that's always the first place that somebody goes. Like, oh, I did four sets of 215.

Today, I'm gonna bump into 225 or whatever. You know what I'm saying? It's always, unfortunately, our body isn't that efficient. You know what I'm saying? It's efficient, but we don't progress that way. You don't always get to add weight. And if I- I know it should be bench, you know,

I'd be able to bench, you know, 5,000 pounds by now. Yeah, it's not gonna work. Yeah, it's not gonna work. The other thing too, to keep in mind, when you're adding, because there's so many variables, and if you're smart, you're taking advantage of things like tempo, is to be consistent

with the variable that you're gonna work with for at least a few weeks. Yeah, so you can see what it does for you. Yeah, see, because I think a lot of times, another mistake that some people make, and a lot of people get away with it because they're super in touch with their body and they're very advanced.

I'm one of the guys here who could, I was like, I was just gonna say, cause Adam, for example, he knows his body so well and he's at such a high level that he can modify his variables every single workout and know what's happened to his body. But most people do better when they say, okay, this, for the next two, three weeks,

what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna move the bar very, very slow this particular exercise and I'm gonna see how many reps I can do so I'm gonna count 10 reps down 10 Red excuse me 10 sets 10 seconds up 10 seconds down on my squats and Do it again for the second in the third week so you can see how your body's progressing With that particular variable well, I'll be honest even though I was was somebody who did know all that and wasn't touched with his body, I couldn't, it wasn't until probably the last four or five years, especially when I got into the whole competing world, where I started getting really into this, and then we started doing maps,

and working in phases, and where I would actually stick to that. Before that, I literally walked in the gym. Every time I walked in the gym, my mentality was I've never duplicated a workout in the gym, I never dupe, my mentality was, I've never duplicated a workout in my life. I've duplicated tons of exercises. But I have never changed. There's always a slight change.

There's something always different whether I'm fucking with tempo or repetitions or weights. Why? I've had that with angles as well. So that's another variable that I've used as far as tempo and angles and intensity, loading more weight, obviously. But yeah, just those slight variances and angles

will change the entire exercise as far as using gravitational force. Oh, absolutely. That's why so forever, I train like that. I mean, for at least 10 plus years of my fitness career, this is how I train. Now, like what Sal is pointing out, the only bummer about that, yeah, I sitting great shape,

yeah, I was always confusing the body and trying to get it to adapt to a new something, new variable. But, you know, what happens was I didn't know what was more effective for my body. Where did I see the most gains? Did I get the most gains when I was training in power and strength?

Did I get the most gains when I'm training in hypertrophy? Did I get the most gains when I was really in power and strength. Did I get the most gains when I'm training in high purge? If you did, I get the most gains when I was really concentrating on the eccentric phase and working on that negative, or did I get more gains from explosive type lifts where I'm going one, one, one, you know, so I never did that before. Now I see like what I've learned is that different, different body parts respond differently to each type of like mentality. You see, that's that's why it's so that's why one of the reasons why it's so important

because then you can really see what's working for you and you really see the progress because you've done, you're testing that same variable for three or four weeks in a row. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like I just recently, I've talked about this already, but I just recently, for the last three weeks, have done lightweight with my squats, gone all the way down to the bottom, but kept tension and held that bottom position for three to five seconds.

And I did that, if I just did that once, I'd get some benefit, but I wouldn't know what the pro, I wouldn't really be able to attach it to progress specifically because I didn't do it more than once. But what I did is I did it more than once, I did it for three weeks in a row. And I saw clearly that at the bottom part of that rep, I got stronger and stronger, stronger.

This week, I stopped that. I went back to my regular workouts, did actually some band work with my squats, and guess what, I'm fucking stronger. So I personally enjoy doing the same variable for a specific amount of time. So I can see exactly what it's doing, and then I can apply it towards a regular workout

and say, oh, here's the benefit. And it gives me a better idea in terms of when I should use some of those variables because I know it's exactly what they're doing with my body. So I'll give you a very similar example. So then I just went through, I went through recently. We've been talking about you and I going back and forth

with the gains on the quads and I'm trying to catch you and build, build, build, build. So I've been spending so much time because I've seen, I've seen and tracked in the past, I get the most gains in size in my, in my legs when I'm training a lot of power. So I've been doing a lot of singles and doubles and triples for, for workouts for quite some time. Well, that's, I've seen huge gains in my legs. But now I've noticed like, you know, my knees are a little ache here and bothering me a little bit. So then I'm like, okay, this is a perfect time for me now to roll out of this phase

and then go into something else and start to manipulate something else. So now I've reduced, I've dropped down to like 315. I'm still only doing three to five repetitions, but I'm doing exactly what, similar to what you're, I'm not pausing them on, but I'm actually desel- Decelerating this. Well, I'm, yes, I'm deselirating

at like a four to six second deseleration, just concentrating on my hips sliding out, keeping my knees full amazing. And now I'm like focusing on seeing what kind of gains I'll get this from over the next, and it's been now almost two weeks. I've been doing this. So now I'll be excited to see when I go back to power

and lifting in that manner. Is my form even tightened up or did I get stronger? What happened? And here's the other benefit to that. If you're working out, and especially if you've been working out for a long time, we are motivated by a lot of us are motivated by seeing progress or something measurable. You know, very few people can go to the gym, see no progress in anything and still keep going to the gym. It's very difficult to do. All of it, even those of us that love working out, I like to see something,

you know, happen. So manipulating particular variables is good because it keeps you, it keeps things fun. Because if I always focus on strength, I'm gonna plateau, I can't keep getting stronger forever. It's just not gonna happen. So then I back off and I say, okay, now I'm gonna see with a lighter weight, how many reps I can get with this weight. So now I'm going more, a little bit more endurance

or I'm gonna do a super set and see how I feel with this particular super set or I'm gonna do the slow motion. I'm gonna pause and hold the weight and do an isometric contraction and then I do the next two or three weeks That way and I see my body progress and I see my performance progress in the gym and it keeps things exciting That's the other plus side from doing that kind of stuff. It keeps challenging the body in a different way Which is what you need to do you need to keep it different you need to keep estimulating a different firing sequence.

So that way, you know, you're go to, it doesn't get exhausted. And it's the same thing with like mechanics. If I'm doing the same movement forever and ever, you're end up getting arthritis and, you know, the whole function is going to be lost in that movement. So. And the amount of variables within an exercise is endless. Oh, yeah. There's so many variables. You know, that's why I can honestly say that I for 15 years,

I've never duplicated a workout before. You know, I literally had never done that before. So it's very possible. And it's a lot easier than what people think it is if you're thinking about that, if you're thinking about that, it doesn't always have to be a different exercise or more weight or more reps. There's other ways. That's what I love to do this too, where you manipulate like all the above all at one time to really throw a curveball on the ball. Like, I mean, you talk about doing keeping everything where you can track it and doing the same thing over.

Well, how about one time I come in and I'm going to fuck with my reps, my weight and my tempo all in all in one, on all one new movement on something and I'm gonna fuck with my reps my weight and my tempo all in all in one on all one new Movement on something that I'm trying to train that day, you know doing different stuff like that that just completely Confused the body and you can totally Continue to see yourself coming in the gym and never duplicating workouts if you have that mentality of changing all that stuff You know, and use you know, there's certain opportunities that will present themselves You know if you're feeling like Adam was saying your knees are bothering you Then use that as an opportunity to switch to something that's not as heavy,

but now you're focusing on something else. So, rather than, let me give you an example of what I'm talking about. Rather than Adam going to the gym and saying, I gotta go light because my knees hurt. Rather than him doing that and going with that mentality, he's going into the gym saying, I've been going heavy for a while now,

now I'm gonna go light and focus on my form. That is a different mentality. You'll achieve, you'll, you're the same benefit in the sense that his knees will feel better, but now he's going with the performance mentality, but in a different direction. And that's more motivating and it's, you're more likely to stick to something that way. It's because a lot, you know, mentality goes into that quite a bit. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, if I go in like, oh, my, you know, my goes into that quite a bit. Oh, absolutely. If I go in like, oh, my, you know, my shoulder's hurt.

I'm just gonna, I can't go heavy because my shoulder's hurt. I mean, who the fuck wants to work out like that? Instead, I go in like, you know what? I've been going really, I'm gonna go real light and slow and squeeze the shit out of my chest and I'm working out. I'm not worried about my, her shoulder, even though that's an issue. Right.

It's a different mentality going into the workout. Oh, you should bring that up. This is something that just happened to me last week. I don't know if I slept on my shoulder wrong or what, but my left shoulder has just been, oh, it's been awful. And no matter how much I warmed up, it still hurts during my workout and I'm like,

fuck, man. And I took like a week off to see if there's something I need to rehab. I got massage, just did all this stuff, can't put my finger on it. Some sort of imbalance going on. And I'm like, you know what, here's a perfect opportunity

because I was just going really heavy for the last couple weeks on my shoulders. I'm gonna work on strict overhead pressing, super light, bring all the way down, all the way up. Oh my God, my shoulder feels so much better in my workouts. But it's like, now I'm still on that because I'm not focused just, it wasn't just about getting my shoulder better. It was also like me.

And now you're probably seeing yourself get stronger within this form and range of motion. Which by the way is hilarious. Absolutely fucking hilarious because the common thing that you'll hear from people if you have a shoulder problem is to limit your range of motion. Yeah, which is stupid. The worst thing to start losing that range of motion. Many times it's stupid. Isn't that funny? Yeah. Like if you have an injury a lot of times you shouldn't limit your most of times, you shouldn't limit, most of the time

you shouldn't limit range of motion. Sometimes you should, but a lot of times you shouldn't limit the range of motion. What you should do is find a way to train it in a very full range of motion. And sometimes that means you go real, real light with weight or you would, or change your technique to something. There's a silly bit somehow. Yeah. This is the biggest issue that I have at OTF right here is that we're trained to give somebody an alternative exercise instead of doing this instead.

Which the internal trainer in me just cringes because I'm like, oh, but it's this fast tempo class where I don't have this time to talk. But that's an entertainment workout. It is. Well, I try and put that emphasis on it. It's about the energy, excitement, and it's about, it's more about that than the best way to train your body because there's a situation like that comes about where I see some sort of a deviation or an injury

or a client says, oh, I can't do overhead shoulder presses. It hurts my shoulders. So then I'm supposed to just give you a different exercise and you just start doing that instead. But in my head, I'm going like, no, if I was really training this person, and that happened. If you have any kind of limitation at all, I do not recommend you go into a class of any kind.

You know what I mean? You need to reestablish that. You need to work on that yourself or like get a professional help you through that as far as like strengthening and supporting and increasing your range of motion. But I just feel like, and this is just my personal opinion, going into a class setting, the hype, the energy, everybody around you, maybe the competitiveness of it, like myself included, you get wrapped into that,

and then you just blast yourself just because you want to keep up. Of course, you find it difficult to, you know, first of all, it's hard for you to like, hey, trainer who's teaching the class. My shoulder hurts when I do this. Can you come help mine? He can't or she can't because it's a class. Or you should already know that. And sometimes in love. Guys, we can't forget like, there's an intimidation factor in classes where you don't want to be the guy or the girl who can't do the thing, and so you're just sitting there

while everyone else is doing it, and you're not. That's tough. That's a level of peer pressure. That's pretty strong. Yeah. That people find. And we should talk a little about that because I think when you go into the gym,

it happens even in gyms, you're there to work you out. That's it. If you're taking a class, if you're taking a class, it's your workout. Don't give a shit about anybody else in that fucking room, aside from the fact that you're cool with them,

hey, great workout, high five, but I'm fucking working me out. So I can give myself the best workout, whatever that means. This exercise works the best for me. I'm doing it this way. And if the trainer thinks I'm doing something shitty, then they'll say something if they don't, then fuck you.

It's my workout. And I hate to say that, but that's the attitude you have to have. When you do that kind of stuff, you'll get better results and less injuries. And when you go in the gym, the same thing. I was having this conversation with my client today because we were talking about, there was another client working out

with her trainer and she was kind of complaining about, you complaining about stuff that she was doing, like some clients do. And he was joking. I could tell you, you really like working out, we're all laughing. And I told him, it's like very few people truly love working out. Most people I really love working out work in fitness. Oh yeah, right. It's just the way it is. But speaking for myself, I've been in gyms,

most for eight to 12 hours a day or longer, for most of my life. So for me walking into gym is a total different experience than most people. And when I go in, it's all about me. I could give up. I gave a shit. But anybody, anything around me,

the only time I don't give a shit is when I'm working out with you knuckleheads. And that's because I'm having so much fun talking shit and moving heavy weight, that we do end up doing things, sometimes I do shit and I go, I probably shouldn't go in that heavy. Like I said, we're not impervious there.

Sure, but you get what I'm saying, when it comes to that. So, I have a question for you Adam, you were talking about your shoulder hurting and you said you slept out wrong. Yeah. I've been wondering this, how many pillows do you use when you sleep?

Because your shoulders are so wide, your head has got to be like, you're probably sleeping all weird, right? Your head, you're on your fucking shoulder. No, no, I sleep like 12 pillows. I sleep on my back. And are your hips all twisted and chained? We're gonna find out, Sal.

Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I sleep on that princess mask. I sleep. I see. Oh, I cover this as I do. Have you ever slept with one of those before? Do you know what I want to? They're awesome. But I have it just actually. You know what, it's got that princess mask. I see. I see. Oh, that covers his eyes. Have you ever slept with one of those before? Do you know what I want to?

They're awesome. But I actually, you know what? It's fucking fun. I'm doing a pillow on my face, but yeah, my wife gives me shit about the whole time. Yeah, I'm gonna put a pillow on your face, Justin. Yeah, I'm gonna upgrade to the princess mask. I'm gonna put a pillow on your face, Justin.

I'm gonna smother you. You're a bastard. Face down, ass. You're a horrible, horrible friend. So you just do a regular pillow, huh? Yeah, yeah, I guess a regular pillow. I don't have any like weird fucking foam thing or whatever, I just, whatever pillow, I think we bought it.

You guys would have, you don't have an inner thigh, cock pillow? I do. I figure you would. Why do you want one on my side, but I end up, that's how I lay, and then I end up fall, so I'll lay, because of course, if I'm not touching my clothes, you can smash it.

Cause you have narrow hips. So you have to have something between your legs and to, otherwise your hips hurt when you sleep on your side with wide shoulders, biomechanically, like Adam, I mean, Justin doesn't need shit, he's got those nice, full, side cheeks. Yeah, I, like a pregnant woman,

I sleep with a pillow between my legs when I'm on my side, but I actually can't even sleep on my side anymore. I have to eventually roll to my back. So I can't get it. Do you guys wear pajamas? No, I sleep naked. Where's this going, dude? I'm just trying to picture.

Listen, you should have been, I see naked, dude. No, by the fuck. I'm not fucking sleeping in that one with that you zip all the way up. The onesie? Yeah. I, right, can we vote on this the onesie? No naked You guys have your own rooms. Yeah, I look good. I walk around my room naked. Do you really? Yeah, bro?

Just just shit hanging out. Yeah, sure. No air dry bro. Yeah, we'll auction off some video But you were just telling me something I wanted to tell you I can't remember what were you just talking about before you switched gears on this because I'm being in a gym Tempo, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're telling you're you and your client were talking about something I wanted to share I was just saying that I that you know, I go into gym I've been I've lived in gems most of my life. Oh about people liking to work out like him So I have a theory on right? I have a theory on why I feel like Working out for everybody is is a job, even for those of us that love it.

But I think that I think the reason why people treat it that way or feel that way about is because for most people, it doesn't pay very well. You don't get paid very well. So they don't have that same passion for it. But the people that even I, because I've taken people that absolutely said they hate the gym. You're awesome looking. You get paid. Oh no.

When you start, when you start seeing the results, when you start getting paid back for your hard work that you put into the gym, you start to have a whole different attitude about it. The person that people that used to say to me, that, oh, I hate the gym or I don't like going to the gym, it's normally because they've been working, putting all this work in and getting paid very little or nothing as far as results are concerned. And that's the same thing that we felt the same way we'd feel about work. You go to work and you get paid less than minimum wage.

How long do you really want to do that for and how much do you enjoy that no matter how good you are? Yeah. Hostess Twinkie is immediately satisfying. Yeah. No, I made that comment just, I mean, kind of partially as a joke, but it is kind of true in the sense that how many people do you know that truly know of working out that don't work in fitness? No, you're right.

That's not very many. It's actually, it's a fact, bro. It's actually very easy. Very easy, runners are cyclists or something. Like that's their form of it. I've noticed, especially the type A that are real aggressive in work, but then they try to aggressively take that mentality elsewhere outside, but type A everywhere.

It's just one thing though. Yeah. It's rare that you'll get somebody that's like balanced in their workouts as far as focusing on overall. And that's the thing, when you go into the gym, it's so easy to get stuck in your routine and your rut and doing the same shit every time. I go, look, we work out in gyms all the time.

I probably, I could say easily 70 to 80% of the people I see in there. When I see them again are doing the same exercise again and again and again, the same workout, the same order, the same routine. So part of it also, part of it's because maybe they don't know any better, but I think also part of it, two people are afraid to try new things because they don't want to suck at something. And I'm constantly seeking out things I'm not good at in the gym.

I'm constantly. That's why I'm here. Yeah. Oh, while you're on the show. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. Just in hate. Yeah, I remember when you said,

No, I just didn't come naturally to me just because I don't like listening to myself to begin with. But you're not like me and Adam I love the challenge for self see you guys immediately like oh god. This is the greatest together What am I gonna talk about how am I gonna get in here where they keep cutting me off? My god, I'll just fuck with them But yeah, you know, it's it that's just it. I wanna put myself in situations like that where I know if I keep doing, I'm gonna get better at it.

And that's pretty much how I am with business, that's how I am with working out. I know that I am terrible with polling and pull-ups and dead less. And so that's like all I focus on now. And it's just like, it's one of those things where you just see an immediate weakness and you're like, listen, I just gotta address this.

So yeah, that's my mentality. It's not a mentality, everybody have though. No, no, no, it's very, very uncommon. And that's one of the things I feel like that is most attractive about the group of men in this room is that it's very rare you meet other people like that. Much less all of us in the same profession and field

and vision as far as where the direction of fitness is going that are passionate about growing. You know, so many, so many people are content with who they are because there's so much shit out that it is that talks that way. Like, oh, be happy with your, well, I, I you know everybody in this room you they respect themselves and love themselves in that matter but also have that ability of self awareness to look at the areas where they need to grow and develop as a person and not just we talk a lot about fitness but it's not just about that that's what driving has drawn all of us together is that we have this passion for growth

internally and externally with with the industry and what's going on. So there's not a lot of people that are focused on growing themselves. And it's a whole other episode we should talk about sometime. We should, but you know, wanting to grow, I mean, it requires a certain level of personal responsibility. Yeah, self-awareness and humility.

Because you have to, number one, recognize that you need to grow. It's painful. Growth does not feel good. Growth never feels fucking good. You got to make yourself uncomfortable to grow. It's painful. Growth is not feel good. Growth never feels fucking good. You got to make yourself uncomfortable to grow. You don't grow in comfortable situations. You know what I'm saying? Like how much growth would you have if you had all the money in the world? You see all these kids raised by these super rich celebrities and they're

just spoiled shits and they don't do anything because their parents give them everything. There's no uncomfortable positions for them to grow from. So they just become these shitty adults. It's only comfortable in your horny. That's when you really grow. Damn, I'm saying. Yeah. We had had a dick reference, I think, all show. And Justin throws it in here.

No, we, we, well, we kind of, we talked about walk around naked in the room. You implied, you implied. Did you do the arm swinging thing? Like a little like you do. No, I did. Was that just picture? Yeah, we're just picture Can I tell you something I'm gonna warn you this weekend when we're on when we go away? Yeah, and you know if you walk around Nick

I'm gonna tell you right now, bro. You swing your dick in front of me I'm gonna flick it as hard as I can on my finger So I'm just warning you it's fucking hurt your finger It's gonna be you remember he can flex it right? It's gonna make an iron sound like a punch, you bro. And with that, don't forget to subscribe to my channel. Amy tree. And leave us a five star rating and review. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump.

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