Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2076: What to Do if One Side Is Stronger Than the Other, the Truth About Fasting & Muscle Loss, the Best Way to Work Out With Gut Issues & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Do hard things! (2:12) The Di Stefano’s urgent care scare. (21:17) Adam’s embarrassing moment at the Warriors game. (28:34) The sad state of San Francisco. (42:08) ‘Coregasm’ is a real thing! (49:06) Lack of muscle is the biggest contributor to the chronic health crisis. (49:53) The hermetic effect of the Green Juice from Organifi. (52:57) Shout out to Word on Fire. (55:22) #Listener Live question #1 - How can I help my muscles take over more instead of my joints? (57:42) #Listener Live question #2 - What should my training focus be while I prioritize my gut health? (1:08:02) #Listener Live question #3 - What is the best approach to get my body less crooked? (1:21:01) #Listener Live question #4 – Will fasting hinder my gains and progress? (1:29:01) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit The Cold Plunge for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump Listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for $150 off your order** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** May Promotion: MAPS Prime or MAPS Prime Pro or the Prime Bundle 50% off! **Code MAY50 at checkout** Mind Pump #1825: Man Cheats Death & Builds Cold Plunge Business How Emotions Are Made: The Secret Life of the Brain – Book by Lisa Barrett Get The #1 Rated Parking App | SpotHero Human basal metabolic rate has declined over the past 30 years Energy expenditure and activity among Hadza hunter-gatherers Word On Fire 377: How to Live with Joy w/ Chris Stefanick Visit Hiya for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS Symmetry Bottoms Up Kettlebell Press Tutorial for SVKO Wild Card Event How to Build Muscle with Isometric Holds - YouTube Mind Pump #2035: Why Diets Always Fail With Dr. Will Cole MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Adam | Relationship Psychology (@attachmentadam) Instagram Chris Stefanick (@ChrisStefanick) Twitter Dr. Becky Campbell (@drbeckycampbell) Instagram Dr. Will Cole (@drwillcole) Instagram  

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One for Apple Podcasts, one for Facebook, the Apple Podcast winner is Pupi Scoopy. And for Facebook, we have Corey Glasgow. Both of you are winners. And the name I just read to iTunes at MindPupMedia.com includes your shirt size and your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Oftentimes we get hung up on the physiological benefits of some of the things we do when in fact many, if not most of the benefits, simply come from the following, doing hard things. Doing things that are hard changes your relationship to struggle, to pain, and to challenge, and that will change everything for you.

So do hard things for the simple fact that they're hard. Watch what happens. This right here, I'm gonna sound like an old man, but this is real wisdom, like real wisdom. And it's a lost art. As I, the deep right I get into this and the more I understand it, the more I understand people like my father and his father and my relatives, my older relatives who grew up very, very hard, very hard, and how they are just happy and joyful,

and when they're doing really hard things, don't seem to like shrivel. And then I do things that are like, a quarter of the challenge, and I'm like ready to kill myself. And really what it is is that their relationship to these things is completely different. Completely different. Changes your perspective.

And it's because they did hard things all the time. Yeah. All the time. You know, when he likes to tell me this story when I was a kid, when I was a kid, you know, when your dad tells you stuff, you're like, whatever dad, you know, the whole like I used to walk up hill, 15 miles, both ways, that would do. I love those stories.

He's like, you know, when we were kids, obviously we had a much better off than he did. He grew up extremely poor. And, you know, we get toys for Christmas and stuff. And then he did the whole lecture and he's like, you know what I used to play with? They're like, what? He goes, I used to play with sticks.

I used to play with sticks. He goes, I had one toy when I was a kid. Yeah. And I'm like, what was it? And he goes, he tells us over and over. He found a bicycle tire. He found it. A bicycle rim.

That like a dog. He did like rolls it with a stick. I guess. It was a street. It was his favorite toy. They would roll it and they play with it all the time. And I remember as a kid thinking like, he's making that up. That's not.

You can possibly have fun. But, and again, I'm not trying to trivialize anybody's challenges, but doing hard things does have an effect on how you handle challenge. And one way to do this is start the day off with something hard or challenging. Everything else seems easier. So if you ever wonder,

because I often wonder how some people can go through things and other people can go through the same things and just have a completely different experience, it's not that they, this person feels more paying, this person feels, they have a different relationship. There's the objective thing that's happening and there's a subjective experience of what's happening and that right there is probably everything.

I mean, it's almost like a psychological muscle, right? Totally. Like you're building it, you're strengthening it by introducing almost this hermetic stress like just like little bits of really challenging things. So that way too, you get something real and you don't completely go into shock and freak out and think that the world's ending. It's like, okay, I've navigated through some of these hard things before and this is how I gotta like pursue through this.

Yeah. It was this way of thinking that shifted my perspective on my childhood and it didn't happen for me until like my mid to late 20s. And I wish I remember if I was like, it was the therapy that I was going through or it was talking to a client, but I know I was like having to dig into like my old,

like grow the way I grew up and everything, and then what led to today. And I remember the more I had to talk about the more I realized that like, oh man, because of the adversity as a kid, once I got to adulthood, the challenge is just like everybody has their struggles and challenges when you get into adulthood, seemed so trivial in comparison.

And it made me realize like, oh, because I was forced to go through these hard things when I was younger, the adult things that I went through seemed, oh, this is not a big deal. I've been through harder stuff, that it's way harder than that, many more times. So this is like one little bump in the road. And I never, when I was going through that,

I didn't realize I had that perspective. I gained that perspective unwillingly as a kid, but it served me so well as an adult. And so now, like the way I frame my child is like, man, I'm so grateful. I wouldn't change anything about it. I'd rather go through that. And I think in today's time, because of technology, because of the ability for so many more people to have, we've lifted so many more people out of poverty today than say three decades ago, that more and more,

I think it's important that we force ourselves into these challenges and things, which we've speculated before, that this has a big deal to do with the rise and like Spartan races and things like that. Deep down, I think we want that, we seek that, we need that. So to have perspective for all.

And just to support you Adam, you're one of the most resilient people I know. So I know you're not, you know, for anybody listening. He's not just saying that for the show like I know him. I've seen him go through things and the guys extremely resilient. And it's come because of how you grew up. You know, an important thing to mention with this is, because it's like exercise, right? Physiologically, you stress your body, it gets damaged,

but then it strengthens and becomes stronger. So that next time that same damage doesn't cause damage, but you can over apply damage and overcome your body's ability to adapt. So this can happen with challenge as well, because there's somebody listening right now that's like, Oh, no, I went through some trauma and it didn't make me stronger if anything. It made me weaker. Well, you have, there's always a right dose and that dose is different from person to person and as you progress that dose can change. So you can definitely overcome your ability to grow and strengthen from hard things. Now, back to what you were saying about how modern society, you know, and technology

has kind of made things easy. More than ever, more than ever, do we have to choose to put hard things in our life? We have to actually consciously do this, which probably is more challenging than what it used to be in the past, where you had no choice but to go through hard things. Like hard things that was life, life was hard. Now life is just easy, so you have to like put

and intention for your day. Like I have to seek out these things that are, that make me uncomfortable. Otherwise, yeah, it's not even really gonna present itself anymore. You know, even being in an environment like this where we have like air, air controlled, like AC, you have heat, you have, you know, soft chairs.

Like I, I just can just sit and be happy play video games. I could put my VR on and just do nothing. Yeah, you have to choose it. By the way, this is the real argument for the cold plunge. 100%. This is what, yes. Right now, the space is debating back and forth

on the science of muscle gaining growth, which is so crazy and funny to me, because there's something else, oh, fasting. Fasting is another one of those things that I remember when we first. It's because fitness, they only value the look. So anything that has all this other value, oh, it might burn body fat, it might build muscle.

Let's just focus on that. That's what's happening. Yeah. And I feel like we're doing that again with the coal plunge. It's like, we know that there's value in it, or also it wouldn't be a practice that's been around forever. And we've now got lots of great science that supports

all these different benefits that come from it. The one that the fitness science community clings onto is the muscle building recovery aspect of it. And then that gets traction and gets popular. Now there's this counter movement. Now it's this big argument over one aspect of this. And it's not even the biggest aspect, I think. Not even the biggest contributor to your life. It's this, the conversation that we're having right now, which totally reminds me of when the fasting

thing happened, fasting, same exact cycle. It was been around forever. We know that it's been practiced for thousands of years. So we get some science to support the health benefits that support it. So it is a fitness community. They glom on to just the science part of the potential fat loss and neurogenesis and all these things. And then you have the other people that counter

like, oh, that's so splitting hairs and that's bullshit. And then they're arguing over the wrong thing. No, listen, fasting is existed in every major religion that exists today. Every major religion has fasting in it. Do, and it's lasted for thousands of years were they fasting to get leaner? I mean, we're talking thousands of years ago.

Nobody was trying to get leaner. There was nobody was like, I need to lose some weight, okay? That was, that was probably very high risk to do something similar. Yes, yeah, oh, you want to fast, like you're already kind of fasted last week. We're good.

We're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we might not eat next week. Right, cold plunge, like putting yourself into cold water. Do you think that they were doing that hundreds of years ago to speed up recovery or to produce more, cataclysmines, no repinephrine, maybe the thing they were debating over the muscle gain, they didn't care about that,

they cared about the real value. By the way, exercise and strength training went through a similar path. Strength training initially, nobody cared about the muscles and the look. That was a side effect, it was about the function, it was about feeling good, you read some of these old books that were, you know, from the late 1800s.

Read about it. Nobody's talking about building bigger biceps or, you know, it's all about more function, vitality, vigor, you know, less pain, not feeling weak, not getting sick. And then of course, what happens is people notice like, oh, this, you know, Eugene Sandow. He kind of looks really good. Everybody starts worshipping the look, and then we value it for the side effect, for the effect that's not really the main thing.

So going into a cold plunge are the physiological benefits? Yes, there's lots of science now to support it. But here's the real benefit. It's not that I get in and I see catacombine production and I see a immune system boosting a lot. Here's the real value is every time I think about getting the cold plunge I don't want to. Eventually I get over that. If I keep practicing it, I get comfortable, jump because let me tell you something right now. I can, and I'll say this with 100% certainty.

Nobody who cold plunge is, you don't all of a sudden don't get freezing cold and it doesn't shock us. It's always us. It's hard every time. Yeah. The difference is you develop this resilience and this relationship with it. Mine set.

Yeah, where I get, for me, I have to like talk myself into it, but I could see how practicing it every day at some point, I'm just gonna do it. And then God, is that gonna have carry over to the rest of my life? 100%. You better believe it. So if you view your practices with this kind of understanding, even eating healthy, even eating healthy is this way.

There's definitely value and enjoyment of eating, but there's also value and enjoyment of not eating the hyperpalatable stuff and enjoyment of eating food because of its other benefits. And by the way, we talk about all the time, that's how you get to this intuitive balance eating for the rest of your life. When you go through that challenge

and when you understand it that way, now you start to not only get the real value, but all those silly side effects at the fitness industry worships, like sculpted abs and you look great and you're sexy and your muscles, that all happens anyway. That's all gonna happen anyway. Yeah, and I think in our space,

we've been so focused on the body in terms of building and, you know, displaying strength and displaying the benefits of that. And we haven't really dived into, like, you know, building up your mental strength and being able to be resilient, and especially in today's world, like, I just look at it as like, you're reinforcing and fortifying this house before an impending storm comes, right? Like, you need to be thoughtful in that regard in terms of being able to keep

like mentally strong and when facing challenges. Yeah, so I'll ask you, Justin, because you played at a pretty high level football. So, and it's like this for boxing, for example. You can learn all the techniques. You could be big and strong. You could be fast and agile. But if you've never been hit,

there's a learning curve that comes from being able to have a relationship with getting your bell wrong because you got hit in the field. So and if you've never done it before, you're not going to be able to operate just like fighters. Like you could practice the moves. You could practice techniques. You'd have it all perfect. But everything goes out the window when you get punched in the face. Unless you practice getting punched in the face. Yeah. And you know how to roll with the punches right that's where that that term comes from I have to imagine footballs like that because I can imagine getting hit hard and be like I gotta get used to this

It's not easy. It's not something that's comfortable It literally the first time it even happened for me because I was late to Football where all my friends played pop Warner and like they were like really understood the game and the physics and you know really how to apply like the ultimate force towards somebody and like knock them on their ass and like I didn't know any of this stuff like stepping into it like as a freshman my parents didn't want me to play until high school. And so I come in a bit late and like all my friends really want me to play I'm'm like, okay, and I'm out there and I'm just kind of running around with this helmet that's like really heavy and like my neck soft and I just didn't know what I was doing

in, in very first play where I was like trying to figure out if I was going to play defense or offense. I was on defense and we were in this drill and this running back who was just, I mean, he was my same size, but there's just really understood, like leverage and just came in and just literally decleated me and hit me so hard, it was like a shock through my whole body. And I was on the ground and knocked the wind out of me

and I was trying to like gather myself and I'm like, I could have just cried and just left at that point. Like that, I could have had that reaction. What is the science behind that, right? Okay, so I've both football and fighters, I've heard say this before, where people are asking,

like, you know, I think I want to get into fighting and they say that you know, or after the very first time that you've been hit like that. There's a certain type of person that gets hit like that. And is there something that is there, is there a chemical or internal or psychological reaction that only certain people, they receive that?

And it doesn't make them go, oh my God, because the natural reaction for most people, in a situation like that, we're, we've evolved this way. You get hit, you get hurt like that. The body goes, oh, you don't wanna do this. This is fine. So what is it about a certain breed of person that gets punched in the nose really hard for their first time ever and they want to come back for more or get decleated like that

and they go, as much as they hurt, they go, okay, let me do that again. It's got to be mindset. You think it's all that? It is. Cause here's why I'm not sure about that. Because you just got done, you know, you might be able to pray a little bit, but you've got done praising me about mine,

and I appreciate that. But I'll take some right now. When I played football, I was like, this is not for me. And part of what made me go this, was getting knocked on, getting rocked like that. Now I was a little kid. I wasn't even at the level.

Just, I was a young kid playing pop-order, but it rang my bell enough to go like, I don't wanna do this. I think different challenges pose different challenges for people, because I can also ask you this when you get punched in a, you got a lot of fights when you were kid. Yeah.

Did you do the same thing? No, that's the way it was. So I think it's just different situations. Yeah, like you might take an athlete who does that and gets excited, like it's like, okay, I'm gonna keep doing this. You might put them on a stage in front of a crowd, or you might have them take a test. Yeah, I was just curious if you knew,

because I know. I do know that there is something about that though. Have you not hurt, I've also heard the same thing before from like fighters and then football players, and you definitely, I've Justin, you can't grew up on the field, like there's definitely guys that went in it with all excited, and then they come up, they don't come back, you know, if Justin, you can't grew up on the field, there's definitely guys that went in it with all excited, and then they come up,

they don't come back for a reason. Yeah, and it's interesting too, because you'll see that in different arenas, like in MMA or martial art or something. And some of the schools will test that right away, because they don't want the person with the mindset that is immediately sort of Cowards away and is like not

Responding the way that they want they want the one immediately is like oh yeah, like it clicks and fire something inside them Yeah, and so I kind of respect that on a level because it's it is sort it's like it's Listen, I'm gonna put all my effort in, um, and teaching towards somebody that's like that receptive, you know, and I want you into to keep learning versus somebody that's like, you just know, like, maybe there's a chance for them down the road to build and develop that kind of, uh, excitement and, and discipline to, to excel in it, but it's but that's a lot longer of a journey and a path versus somebody like that,

where you're like, okay, they have that. They have the thing, whatever that thing is. Yeah, probably, right? Cause there's gonna be different variances for what they can tolerate and how they progress. I think it goes back to your dose. Yeah, so I think that's the important thing. Like if you're listening to this right now,

you, there's an appropriate dose of stress. So I'm saying do hard things. Well, don't do something so hard that you break your leg and you can't work or something that's going to overwhelm you cause. Right. There's still a healthy relationship to have with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Because there's people that are, that are almost, was it a masochistic? Oh, yeah. Where they want, they just, yeah, they're just hurting themselves at that point. Yeah, yeah. I remember the first time I got thrown,

yeah, I was a pain seeker. You also delivered it. You also delivered it. You did a little bit of a borderline that was beyond it. You were also a pain deliverer. I remember the first time I got thrown by a national level judo competitor and it was definitely terrifying.

Well, I mean, you get thrown fast. The world spins very quick and then you hit the ground. Hit the real hard. I mean, what did he throw me with first? No, he threw me with a Tiotoshi, which is a side throw. And if you get it right, the dude turns over very quick. So I was like, boom. And I remember going, okay, yeah,

I got to sit here for a couple of minutes to catch myself, but I mean, the whole point with this is that there's value in simply choosing to do hard things for the value, for the simple fact that it's hard, not just all the other stuff. So like, okay, you brought up cold plunge at him. Here's why I like the cold plunge so much. Let's say you're a busy individual. You got a family, you work a lot, you're like, okay, I hear this whole practice hard things.

Like, how do I squeeze this into my day? How do I make this happen? Well, you could, now, you could actually do this now, they make it real convenient. We work with a company called Plunge, where you could buy a plunge, it's filtered, it's all takes care of itself, okay? So you have in your house, and two minutes,

you can start your day off with a two minute, hard-ass thing every day, and that's it. And that will have a profound impact on your ability to take on challenges the rest of the day. That's my whole point, you know, with this whole thing. Anyway, I gotta tell you guys, when I talk about hard things, I had a terrifying experience the other night.

Terrifying. Yeah. So I was... I was a night. Terrifying. Yeah. So I was at night or night before? Night before. Okay. So I was, so Jessica's been, we've been had this cold kind of going around the house

here for a while. Lingery, like this long kind of lingering cold. And Jessica was getting progressively worse. Like she had this cold, but then I told you guys, I said I think she has mono, because my older son had mono and mono can be really nasty with the sore throat and whole deal.

She started getting this really sore throat. And so I'm like, oh, I think she's got mono, this is gonna kind of suck up, whatever. Well anyway, it got little by little progressively worse and the day before she was like, my throat is so swollen and she started developing this cough where she would get these fits, where she would just cough and couldn't catch her breath. I'm like, oh man, this really sucks.

I was supposed to go to LA to do some podcasts the day after. So I'm like, okay, well, I think she's okay, type of deal. She just, you know, not feeling well. Well anyway, was it like 1am? So I'm downstairs sleeping on the couch because she feeds the baby the middle night and I had, you know, I want to get some sleep before I went to LA.

And 1am, I hear her coming, like I hear her gasping for air coming down the stairs. And I'm like, what's going on? What's going on? And she couldn't catch her breath. She couldn't, I thought we're gonna have to go to the ER. She's like, she's super swollen. Swollen, coughing, had like almost no voice

to the point where like I'm trying to talk to you, you can't hear anything. And you start to get a little panic and we're trying to calm down, what do we do? And you know, she finally started to kind of like, be able to breathe a little bit and you know, and then it kind of got a little bit better. I'm like, oh, this is like scary.

Is it allergic reaction? Is this anaphylactic shock? And we're watching. And I got the Benagel ready. Anyway, we were able to kind of make it through the night. Next day, we try to make an appointment with a doctor that like, oh, you can come next week like, no, we need to come in now. So like, well, what are your symptoms?

We tell them, like, go to urgent care. We go to urgent care. And they run like, oh, you can come next week, like, no, we need to come in now. So they're like, well, what are your symptoms? We tell them, like, go to urgent care. We go to urgent care. And they run like all these different tests. They do mono, COVID, strepthro, whooping cough. The nurse heard her cough. She tested for whooping cough. I'm like, well, wow, it's a 19th century war. Yeah, okay.

I hope it's not that because we got babies at home. But they're like, well, just to be sure, but, you know a full-screen woman. Yeah, okay, I hope it's not that, because we got babies at home. But they're like, well, just to be sure, but, you know, low, low chance. Anyway, everything came back negative, and the doctor said basically that, and I had no idea. So what do you guys know about learning Gytus? Oh, I just knew that like it made it so you couldn't really talk.

That was like literally all I know. I'm like, oh, that's not a big deal. You just lose your voice a little bit. I get it all the time when I do lots of speaking engagement. That's it, that's my extent. You can get, so I read up on this because this might be what happened. It's induced by virus or bacterial infection.

She doesn't have bacterial infection, so it's viral. Did you guys know that Lerangitis can get so bad that someone will have to get intubated in the hospital? Well, they literally have to like put a tube down your throat so you can breathe. Wow. It can get so swollen and there's a part of the throat that can get swollen that will block the windpipe to make you not be able to breathe. Yeah, yeah.

And on the high end, you get coughing fits where and you start to get real swollen. And so that's probably where she's at. So like right now, like so last night, where she's sleeping outside the room because she's coughs all night, wakes up the baby. She can't sleep. She literally will start to dose off and wake herself up choking and coughing.

And then we're doing like the humidifier, doing all the natural stuff to keep her from whatever. Dr. Rhoda's a prescription for some strong ass narcotic cough, you know, medicine that we're kind of waiting on because otherwise she can't, she can't breastfeed the baby. So we're like, let's see what happens. I had no idea.

Permethazine or whatever is that though? Oh, I don't remember the name of it, but I think it's the one people take to get high. I don't know. That's what that is. Is it comes with a brown bottle? Yeah, well, we didn't get it because like she's like really, she's super like, no, I'm breastfeeding.

But man, talk about like we're at urgent care. I'm taking we're taking the baby because we had to leave the toddler at home, nanny. And you know, on the way there, she's like, in she'll cough so much, that she'll lose her breath. And then she'll regain herself and then do it again. And then regain herself. I'm like, this is f**k. Scary dude.

So crazy. You know, I hear this story about you. I can't help but think, you know, I always talk about your greatest strength as your greatest weakness, right? I swear that because you are definitely the guy, if any of us are trying to figure something out, one of us will text you. We'll probably text you. Hey, Sal, this is that because we can count on count on you to probably all it's the but you probably do this to yourself

So much when something happens and I know you do because you do it to even me when I tell you oh, yeah, Max Kusniff When you're like check this make sure it's not this This could be this this is going around some like bro. You have to like stress yourself out so much with the Information that you know in regards to that stuff. Well, so I wasn't even, I thought I wasn't super stressed out. Really? Not at this point. I was just, I don't believe this.

No, no, no, you're right. I could definitely do that. But because my oldest had mono, I thought she got mono. So that's what it is. It's going to take time to go away. I freaked out when she woke me up at 1 a.m. couldn't catch her breath and was having trouble breathing. Yeah, that would be scary.

Well, you know what went through my head was, am I gonna have time to jam to the ER? I got the babies here so I just wake them up and or do like now, now this is the cell thing. Okay, how do you do Tricky Automy? Like if she loses her, they're really breathing. Am I gonna have to cut through her? You already do a slitter throw at some videos. Okay, that's okay. That's how crazy you are. I'm so bringing my got to cut through You're a little bit of that so we probably bounce each other. I'm the opposite. I'm like so bad

Yeah, I'll be fine. He's not breathing really well This is like I hope you're right I'm so bad I was like, ah, he'll be all right. It's, it's up in the morning. It's a resilient, it's a mistake. His legs broke and he's walking off. I'm so, I'm so bad. I mean, if I think if I was like, if I think, so okay, are you, are you, are you, just get, that's the breathing thing that freaked me out.

Are you and Jessica though alike in that area because you could probably do that to each other. Is she more like you or she more like me? No, we actually balance each other out. If one of us goes in that direction, the other person tends to call me the person down, which is kind of cool. It's usually me going in that direction though.

But it was the breathing thing that got me going, because when she started that act. Yeah, that was scary. Yeah, because that's like, that's like, this is emergency. You can't breathe, you can't talk. It's different than like, oh my God, I'm so sick. I need to go to the doctor.

It's more like, can't get words out. What the fuck is going on? Yeah. And like, are we gonna call 911? What's happening? And I had no idea, L Yeah. You know, and like are we gonna call 911? What's happening? But I had no idea, Leran Gytis, and it's rare, but I had no idea, because you hear Leran Gytis, so like Leran Gytis, that's why you went to the emergency.

Oh, no, apparently you could get so bad that you're totally. Yeah, I wouldn't, I've been completely oblivious even how to treat it, anything. Well, the edge, how you didn't slither throat. So, you imagine it, she's coughing, I'm holding out. I got you, honey. I got an it? She's coughing. Hold it down. I got you honey. I got an exact dude named David Grudge.

Got the wrong parts. I'm coming out. Oh, she stopped coughing. Bro, I have a crazy embarrassing and weird, all the above story. You scoop her pants again? No, listen to this. So I gotta set the table for the audience because you guys know like,

and I've shared stories with folks. Okay, remember, remember when we went to the fitness convention long time ago when we first were starting to come up and I thought the girls wanted to take a photo with the camera. Yeah, never on bears. Never on bears in the neighborhood.

Yeah, so for the audience. We were gonna tell in my first video. Yeah, so awesome. So for the audience, yeah. Yeah, okay. For the audience that hasn't been listening for that long, when we for and this is like year two, we were pretty new, but we were starting, you know, we were getting in the top 25 of new podcast and things like that and we're getting some traction.

Everyone's well-being recognized places. So like it was the beginning of the growth. We were cockier back then. Oh, for sure. A way more humble. Our self belief is always higher than the actual. Wow. Yeah. So we are all in that we're in the key to that. We're at a fitness convention. So we're already in our little bubble. So a group of these young cute girls come over to me and you know, hey, can we take a picture? They come up to me. And I think

they mean they want me to take up and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'll add to this. The look Adam had on his face. Hold on. They go because also you were at like the you were at the tail end And I think they mean they want me to take up and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, up until last night, I haven't had one of these moments again. So I'm at the warrior game again, Katrina and I. And every time we go, there's probably one or two people that do come up to me and recognize me from the show. I've told you guys before, I've had TNT people that work for TNT, for the work for the warriors, and for the JP Morgan Chase Center. So we've had all these different people that have done this. So every time I go, there's at least one or two that actually do this.

So I can preface this a little bit. So last night, I had already ran into somebody who had said, hi, to go picture with them and so with that. And we're sitting down. This is warmups are going in Katrina and I. And here comes one of the usheres. And her and I are sitting, we're sitting down in our seats and she comes over and she, she pokes her head and like puts her arm on my shoulder puts arm in comes over with a smile

and she starts telling me that you know excuse me sir I really appreciate that you mind your business and you know be courteous to others and she's kind of like going on and on about how you know not to be rude and that to be respectful and all this stuff like that. And Katrina and I are like kind of looking at each other and smiling like, oh, she's a fan like she's like fucking with me and she's going to do some of that. And so Katrina and I like are begin like, she keeps going on and on about how, you know, it's really important and that, you know, I pushed this guy and all of like saying all this stuff, right?

And and Katrina and I are laughing out loud like, I like Katrina and I are both like waiting for her to like give the punch line or whatever. And she goes, you know, this is actually kind of a serious matter to stuff like that. We could actually ask you to leave the game from now on stuff like that. And I'm like laughing in this girl's face.

And it like, finally, like, she doesn't stop. And Katrina goes, are you serious? And she goes, oh yeah, no, I'm very serious. This man is extremely irate right now. And I look at Katrina and I'm like, oh, you really, you really, and her and I, then her and I have a moment where we kind of laugh. And she goes, oh my God, she's, thank God,

she's kind of like stood up for me and goes, oh my God, I totally thought you knew who my husband was and you wanted a photo on this net. She's like, who are you? I was like I was like, oh, that's a number. So now I'm in Paris, but then I go like, what happened? So supposedly, I pushed some guy as I was walking through the tunnel who's like some veteran who was sitting down court side also

and he complained to the Usher, pointing me out, the guy in the red hat, just shoved me. And he supposedly he was irate. Now the craziest part about this, the craziest part was like, I cannot recall. So I asked the lady to say, could you point him out so I could apologize? Obviously, I'm accident.

Yeah, I was like, I said, please, please tell me who it is so I could go say I'm sorry. She's like, no, he's really irate. I don't want to make a big scene about it. So I just want, please. And I'm like, ma'am, I'm like, I literally have no idea what you are talking about right now. And then she leaves, right?

And so, she's like, what'd you do? And I'm like, honey, I literally have no fucking idea. Now, granted, when you walk through these tunnels, there's thousands of people. There's probably two different people that I like, you know, wedge between and I put my hand on their back. Yeah. But when I do that, it's normally like, I make it really get small easy. You have to walk like this.

Yeah. So, okay. And the reason why I bring this up, just the other day on the podcast, you got, you brought up my height and being a big guy and stuff like that. This is what I fucking don't like. Like here is an example of, and America, China was just like, oh my god, my husband literally is like the sweetest man ever. He would never do that. Like, that's not him. And, you know, please let him know so we can go appalled.

I'm like, man, I'll go say I'm sorry right now. Like, I would never want to do that. So it's some veteran old guy or something, I guess. I don't know. And I guess I shoved him according to. Shoulder and old guys do. And I, it was, did you get a chance to say card? No, they wouldn't tell me who it was.

Oh, because they didn't know if you might retaliate or something. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't think after she saw the way we acted and everything like that, that I was, I was an angry at all. I was really just perplexed by. It's so weird.

Yeah, and I racked my brain. I said there was two, there was two situations just now when I walked to the tunnel. I said, one, there's like, there's one of the guys that I know that is a regular there. He sits, sits on the court side and stuff like that. Same said, one, there's one of the guys that I know that is a regular there.

He sits in the court side and stuff like that, same dude, Edward, everybody knows. I'm like, if you sit down there and you're at your season ticket holder, all the ushers know who you are and somebody down. So I go, oh, was it Edward? Was it his friend? And she goes, no, it wasn't Edward. And I'm like, I don't know. Because when he was standing and he was talking to some older guy,

and they were in the tunnel way as I came through, and the usher's, I'm walking up, and the usher walks over to him and asked him to move out of the way because they're like standing in the center. And I slapped him on the back and like grabbed him, and he got out of the way, because I knew who he was, and he looked startled and he looked up

and he recognized me and he, oh, hey, and then I just kept walking. So you think maybe his friend, maybe his friend, and maybe he didn't communicate to his friend that, oh, I know that guy, because and I did come off kind of abrasive at that moment. And so maybe it was that guy, and then the only other person was somebody,

like I said, I was coming in to cut into the court, and I just like, I turned myself sideways and put my hand on some of these, but I'm not telling you right now, I didn't eat, there was no nudge, there was not even pressure, it was like a, come off almost like, like too soft. Like it was not. Maybe that's what it was.

It was a little, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was in a low back. It was, it was lower on its back. Like, did the Kyle Kingsbury back to it? But she was a bit, the way she said to me, she's like, you know, it's, you know, because she realized how sorry I was in it, she's like, to me, she's like, you know, it's, you know, because she realized how sorry I was and that she's like, it is, it's 2023, you know, and people get offended really easy.

So she was cool about it eventually, but it was like, I was so embarrassed because I told Katrina and I totally thought, like, we were laughing at her. She's like, talk, keep talking. We're like, we're like waiting for the show. So in her head, she's like this dickhead. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

It's so, but then then again, we're like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. And they got to add Katrina to like, you know, because I could have been laughing myself and then she'd been, this guy's a prick, but she was too. I hear what you're saying. You're a tall guy, kind of a big guy,

sleeve tattoo, you know, you got your hat on, your goatee. Somebody, if they think that already, they're gonna look at you and think, oh, he's, you know, he's a dick or he's being aggressive or whatever Right, I get I get I mean it was so crazy. This way people think appearances don't matter. They do man They do you you you you present yourself a particular way Then people have a filter and that's just life it sucks because you shouldn't judge a book by its cover I believe so there's right. That's just life dude, dude. So there's actually a really good book called,

How Emotions Are Made. It was actually one of my, it's a bit of a deal. I remember I was like a year or two. Yeah, a year, it's actually a few years ago. And I've talked about in the podcast a long time ago, it's Nobel winning prize, psychologist that wrote the book, and really, really good.

I believe it is if I'm getting the same people right. But it was, it talks about that. Even like the way we quickly default to someone being racist, because they act a certain way. For example, you front of people were like, oh, I see this Mexican guy, this black guy, I cross the street and so, oh, that's so racist to do that.

And they actually talk about that in the book that's like, listen, if your brain has had a situation where, and it's great, we'll talk to Adam Smith today about stuff like this, where you have had an encounter, a bad encounter. Anybody that looks like that. It's right. It's not like, it's your brain naturally,

it's not like something that you are innately racist because your brain is trying to protect you because it knows that it's data points. Yeah, that's right. It's like the last three times this a Mexican guy with a beanie on with that are in his 20s, saw you, he either caused trouble or talked to the neck tattoo. Right. And so the brain already associates with that and it's there to protect you.

And so sometimes it's just a natural reaction to do that, not because you're inherently like, oh, I hate Mexicans or black people. It's like, no, it's just like, that's how the brain works. Yeah, there's, you know, and there's lots of factors, I can factor that. Like media can make you start to believe certain stereotypes because you see them on the TV or you see them on the news.

But like to use a less controversial example, this is when you get women hating men and women that hate, sorry, man that hate women and women that hate men. Like a woman who may have gotten assaulted or had three or four terrible relationships all of a sudden, all men are dogs. Or a guy, this happens to guys quite a bit. Well, they'll get cheated on two times

and then all of a sudden they're like women, yeah, women. Yeah, women. They're only good for this and I never would trust the women that the greatest light. And you hear guys talk about talk like this sometimes and you know, you had some bad experiences.

Your brain generalizes automatically. It's gotta be a constant check. But on the other side, that's like we can't deny nature. And what I mean by that is to, like this is just everybody operates this way. You're all, everybody's bringing does. This is what I mean, I'm excited about. I'm alluding to us getting to interview Adam Smith

because he's an evolutionary psychologist and that's the type of stuff that they study and research is that, you know, there's still a part of us that has this kind of animal instinct to do things that has been built into us for a reason. And so, and it's not to justify those behaviors, it's to be to understand it. You know, it's just like, listen, it's very natural. It was put in there for a reason to protect us, to survive, to get to a rat.

So to think just because we've gotten, we've evolved. So we haven't evolved that much in the last 100, 100 years. We think that like, we're so different than what we were just 500 years, but in the grand scheme of time, how long we've been here. Our bodies are the same. Yeah. You take some of the thousand years ago,

put them today naked, nothing else. You can't tell that they're from a thousand years ago. They're, it's a modern person. It's, it's all the same. Right. It's the denying that they exist is a problem. Then it's also the problem where they exist. Therefore, this is how we should be.

That's also a problem. It's really what it is, is acknowledging that they exist, and then how do we work around that and how do we become better? That's it. Because for example, it's our human nature, animal instinct, to we just talked about doing the hard thing. It's our nature to do the easy thing.

Always do the easy thing. So either A, we deny that that exists. It's our nature to do the easy thing always do the easy thing So either a we deny that that exists. Let's see how far that takes you Yeah, or we say oh this exists. There's four. This is the way I should be. No, it's like this exists These are why I have these drivers, but I can evolve beyond that and it takes conscious effort and work to deny that also too It could be massively beneficial for you in a crisis situation would be, you know, I'm trying to think of the word, but like to deny that would just be like not true. Like it's not, it's something that too, like will help you survive a help you get out of like crazy, but also to you have to acknowledge it so that you don't apply it to things that

aren't really a crisis. You can be naive to do that. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what, for people watching who are like newlyweds, let's just say, one of the most valuable things that you could do as a man or a woman is obviously want to understand your partner. That's most important because they're an individual.

But also understand, if you're a guy, how the female brain tends to work and as a woman, understand how the male brain tends to work, we a woman, understand, how the male brain tends to work. We tend to deny it or pretend like it doesn't exist or it's wrong and then you're screwed. If you're a guy and you constantly use the rationale that you use for yourself or your buddies on your wife, you're going to think she's over, over emotional. Why does it should take my advice? Why is she keep saying these things to me? Doesn't she understand or whatever?

If you're a woman and you do that to your husband, you're gonna think, why is the act like an animal? Why is he forget everything? Why doesn't he care about whatever? Once you start to understand that there are differences in those brains, now of course, number one, understand that person you're with, but also understand that there's these general differences,

you'll have a much easier, better time. That's it, bottom line. It makes a huge difference. So denying these things is just, it have a much easier, better time. That's it. Bottom line, it makes a huge difference. So denying these things is just, it's a problem as well. Well, this isn't like a complete example, but it's some of some bit of it. So I was up in San Francisco as well last night. And I went to a concert. My favorite man came in town and I haven't been in San Francisco probably in a decade or

so. Why was it really been that long? It's been that long. Wow. Yeah, and the last time was, yeah, it was probably, let's say, about eight years ago, okay, because I brought my kids up

to your deli square and all that. And knew it was getting kind of rough in patches, but it was completely eye-opening for me to see the state of where like Union Square, where like a lot of people do like normal shopping, where you see just the over just homeless Union Square's gotten that way. There's not even like real customers anymore. Street drug central. It's drugs. On Union Square, we're all the Christmas shopping. There was a human shit like,

oh wow. As I was walking down the street, like so I was trying to find parking for like 30 minutes because all of the public parking garages, like normally you'd be able to just go in a garage. And I was like, that's probably the move, right? You know what I was talking about street really. We're now like private and they would bring the gate down

and lock it. And so like, I kept trying to go in and like, there's a gate and I'm like, what is a gate? It says on here, it's public. It wasn't public anymore. And I had to end up parking on the street and I, we were walking and kind of like hustling, you know, through certain parts because there's like shopping cars, there's people walking

in the street, there's just like, I, we saw people doing drugs, but there's this weird like, also kind of dichotomy where you have a playground and then there's kids in there like playing in this playground and it just made me so sad like because directly across the street you just saw just slums and just garbage and just like bottles and I don't know man it was really depressing but I went to the concert it was amazing but it was just like I just didn't I guess I didn't realize like it's gotten bad it's gotten to that I didn't realize it guess I didn't realize like, it's gotten bad. It's gotten to that level. I didn't realize it. So I, I mean, I told you guys, I can't remember the last time

I went to Union Square. It's probably been almost as long as you have because I only go down there, literally for giants and warriors. So I just, I drive in, yeah, well yeah, and not only that, but that's if you know from coming from this area, that's you literally, as soon as you come in to San Francisco,

you hit right there on the bay and then you're there. Yeah, I don't. So I haven't ventured to like, but Union Square, I remember going there, that's like one of the more, you know, beautiful areas. Oh, they have a set show where they have an area that's sectioned off for people to do, to take and buy drugs on the streets. Yeah. Literally sectioned off and there's drug dealers in there and they leave them alone. And you off, and there's drug dealers in there, and they leave them alone. And it's a terrible situation because the vast majority of these people

have severe mental illness. And this is where helping people can become toxic. What I mean by that is you're not helping people, you're pretending to help people. Oh, we should leave them alone. Oh, you know, let them, it's like you're not helping anybody. These are mentally ill people that you're actually, what's the word where you have like a enabling?

You're enabling and you're causing some terrible things that happen and then the people in that whole city, man, this is an Exodus, it's like 30% vacancies in businesses. Yeah. Like I said, I told you guys, I have family members that live there, people leave their cars I have family members that lives there. People leave their cars with the doors unlocked and windows down so that people can just go through their cars so they don't get broken windows. And they just don't leave valuables. I know. Crazy. I know. It's kind of

spout hero. Just you know. Spout hero. So that's an app. So what we do is. Spot hero. Yeah, spot hero is this app that we use that allows you to find like a people who like let you park in their garage or in their driveway or their home. Wow. So we'll pay, Katrina and I will play a little bit premium to park at somebody's like private house that's like right there.

And a lot of people have done this like confer, like this guy that we parked in last night. That's pretty smart. He's converted his underground garage to like 10 or 14 spots. And he actually has a valet guy who works there. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Making 150 bucks a spot or whatever. Whatever the I mean, we're there for like five hours or whatever.

I for the game and stuff like that. So you you park at that place. There's like he has this little valet thing. He gets the parks and it's gated whenever those games. He's making a killing. Oh, yeah. I figured it was making like 2000 something a night every time there's a game. Wow.

Yeah, pretty upstairs is his house and he's converted his whole lower level his house into a parking garage. That is very smart. And there's a bunch of them that do that and they do it close to like areas where there's events because that's a popular thing to do. Wow, that's brilliant.

You pay a little bit of a premium, but I mean, to know that it's got someone watching it the entire time. I would have done that. Oh, yeah. I mean, in this venue, it wasn't like that big, right? So it was like, I was really up in the thick of San Francisco. And it was sketchy. It was very sketchy.

But there was, I mean, again, I think the venue would have been a lot more full too if it wasn't in such a sketchy place because there was like some great bands playing and it's just, I'm like, this has got to be crazy even for people coming in and trying to bring their fan base to places like that. It's crazy.

You know, the argument, because there's this, I'm not gonna, we don't have to get too deep on this, but there's this like, we need to pass laws to make it illegal to sleep on the street and throw these people in jail, and then this argument like, no, we can't do that. These poor people, we gotta try to help them and the way that we're helping them

is by giving them needles and not throwing them in jail and that kind of stuff. Well, that's your city. It's not helping. No, I think there's a middle, which is like this. If we enable this, the cost to the city in terms of lost tax revenue from businesses, the cost to the city in terms of police and crime

and lost residents, if we took that and calculated it, I bet you, I bet you, you would save money by publicly publicly funding mental health, medical mental health. By taking people like that and coming up with a way to where like, here's a deal, you've gotten caught twice doing this. Here's your options. We're going to either, you either go to jail or you go here and we're going to, you know, take you off drugs and you're gonna get this help

and there's mental health services. I feel like, I would bet money that that would save money over what they're doing now. So, and why I make that argument is there's a side of the like taxpayer shouldn't pay for it and I'm usually on that side, but it's more expensive doing what they're doing now. So I think it'll save money and it'll actually solve

or solve the problem more than what they're currently doing. You got a study that you want to share with us here. I do. Before I do, it's a good fitness and health study. Before I do, I do want to say this. Remember the last podcast where I said that, you know, corgasms is a real thing. You guys said it.

I got, do you see the comments? You got DMs to it. I didn't see it. There's people talking about it. Yeah, there's people validating it. I mean, leg raises. Women validating it experienced it? I mean leg raises women validating it Leg raises was the common theme one. Yes. No, guys guys don't have core guys Yeah, yeah tons of comments under that video people like oh, this is a real thing

And this is why I don't do that exercise or this why do you do that exercise? It's a real thing. All right. I got I study that, well God bless you if you can get, I hope you make that happen. Yeah, I do. I'll let you embarrass you. You know, you're on Reptang. Yeah, I think I'm gonna do the whole thing today. I got five more reps.

Yeah, I got core to work on today. No, so I got this, the study that is pretty remarkable. This was in nature.com and they did this study on basically looking at total daily energy expenditure. Like, are we burning more or less calories now in modern times than we were before? And first off, the answer is yes, we are burning less calories, but it's not because of reduced activity. It's not because of reduced activity. Now, here's why before I get into what the reason is. By the way, this just only supports what we've been saying for the last eight years on

the podcast. Yeah. It's because when you burn calories through activity, your body quickly adapts and then it learns to become more efficient. This is why that study that I bring up all time on the HODZATRIBE shows that these modern hunter-gatherers don't burn that many more calories in the average couch potato because you can walk more to a step There's health benefits to it. Not gonna say there aren't health benefits

But in terms of calorie burn your body quickly adapts So what they found in the study was it's not because of reduced activity because of the adaptation process But rather because people have a declining basal expenditure meaning less muscle So the main reason why people are burning less calories today is not because they're moving less. It's because they got less muscle. Lack of muscle is one of the biggest contributors to what's happening with our health right

now. When you have less muscle, you have less machinery to support with calories, hormones organize themselves. hormones organize themselves differently. You have worse insulin sensitivity. Lack of muscle is one of the main contributors to the chronic health issues that we're suffering from. So lifting weight. Yes, lift the weight, strength training. This is like the modern solution, exercise portion of the solution for health.

Paired with increased protein intake. Yeah, there's more, right? That's why I say it's part of the solution. But when you look at the exercise side of this, it's like do you strengthen it? Whatever is beneficial, yeah, for building muscle. Yeah, there's more, right? That's why I say it's part of the solution. But when you look at the exercise side of this, it's like, do strength. Whatever's beneficial, yeah, for Billy Muscle. Yeah, imagine just like somebody, like just as everybody attempted one full body work out

routine a week and increased their protein intake. Just that's it. You just say it, like at a protein shake, do that, and watch as a whole, well, how much it would bring that number up. Just that one, that was just... By the way, I had lots of clients, when I got good at this, I had lots of clients that only worked out

on me once a week for the first two or three years. And of course, there were other changes that they made, but that once a week of strength training had some pretty significant impacts on their metabolism. Just once a month. It's an area that I think we did a really poor job. I'm guilty of it too, of not actually celebrating even that, like making that seem like it's nothing still, right?

Because I was a young athlete trainer guy in my early 20s. If someone's the only one who worked out, I'd be like, oh, you're lazy. This is not enough. You're gonna move the needle that way, but it's like now from Mike's prayer. So, God, yeah, so. I'll have a salad.

That's it, salad. I'll have a salad. Who? I gotta sneak in here. Try to cut bro, try to cut down. Hey speaking of protein, today we have organifiers are shout out. Oh, I got something to mention on that.

Oh yeah, yeah, no, along those lines, I keep seeing these carnivore advocates talk about the, they call them toxins that you find in plants. So the argument goes. Phytotoxins. Yeah, the argument goes, you know, plants, they can't run, they don't have claws or teeth. So their defense mechanism is producing compounds

that make you not feel good or make you sick. This is what this is how they evolve to prevent themself from being eaten. Unless it's fruit, fruit wants to be eaten because it's got seeds in it, but everything else Don't eat and here's why and here's why you shouldn't eat vegetables and plants. And I can see some of the rationale behind it, but here's why it's wrong. First off, most of us cook or process our plants. What do you mean by is like, you take wheat, you don't eat wheat off the stock, that'll fuck anybody up,

but you grind the hell out of it, unless you have a gluten intolerance and you can consume it. People who've been consuming wheat for thousands of years. Same thing with other plants and vegetables. So the cooking process helps get rid of some of that. But there's also something called the whorametic effect. Actually, when you mentioned it earlier

when we were talking about, it was you, okay. Where some of the benefits of some of that. But there's also something called the Hormatic Effect. Actually, when you mentioned it earlier, when we were talking about, it was you, okay, where some of the benefits of some of these plants come from the fact that it is a mild stress in the body. But then your body strengthens as a result. So now, how does this tie us to organify? The greens use that they make, I feel like one of the reasons why over time,

I'm sure you guys have experienced this, if you take it regularly, over time, you seem to feel better and better and better. It's ground up, it's freeze-dried, it's able to be digested, but these are plants that probably have a lot of these compounds that produce some of this whoramatic effect, which is why you'll get these compounding effects over time.

So you take this green juice powder and you're giving your body, you know, you're getting the nutrients and stuff from the plants, but there's this mild, whore-medic effect that strengthens in your body over time. Now, I will back up and say that whole foods are always the best choice when it comes to this kind of stuff. But this is convenient and like if you're lacking vegetables in your diet and plants and you want to benefit from some of the benefits that you get from them,

then this would be a good option. I would say that that paired with the fact that it has Oshawa Gondon there has to be the why people report back so much positive. I mean, that's their number one sellers, they're green juice, right? Yeah, it's been that way for me. Reoccurring sales too, like Oshawa purchased

as people keep coming back for more and more. All right, I got a great shout out for today. So there's this, this is a podcast episode. So it's not a page, it's not a, you know, I don't know. That's a good shout out, I think. This is a specific episode that I listen to that it's the only podcast, I'm gonna pull it up,

so I wanna make sure I say the guy's name, right? It's the only single episode of a podcast that I've listened to over and over and over again That's how that's how impactful it was the title of it. It's a word on fire So word on fire is a it's a religious podcast, but they'll have guests come on there and talk about other things and they had a guy named Chris Stefaniq on and he talked about joy and Wow, what a powerful, like listen to this, if you're going through challenges in your life,

you don't have to be Christian to benefit from it. So you can actually take some of that out, just hear the wisdom in there, and it's absolutely brilliant. He gives us one example, it's analogy of like, he says that joy is deeper and much more, it's deeper and it sticks around, even though you get emotions that come and go,

which you can't control. So he uses the example of, he's a body surfer and he goes, when I see a big wave coming, I dive down deep and grab the sand, he goes, it's real calm down there. Even though above me is a bunch of turmoil. So he says, joy is something that you have all the time. Whether it's challenge, sadness, whatever,

the joy is much deeper than that. And he goes into this whole talk about it. It's really, really good. It's, we're on fire episode 377, had a live with joy with Chris Stefani. Interesting. Check that one out. Great.

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Hi, Kate, how can we help you? Hi everyone. Thank you so much for all what you're doing. I just wanted to say that you're not just a great trainer but you're just amazing people. Oh thank you. I would say thank you to Adam for being such optimistic about our future. It brings me hope to you. And thank you so much, Sal and Justin, for all your controversial topics, which are not controversial anymore.

We are discussing them at home too. All right, love it. You got it. So, I'm 35, just started weightliftering just on phase three of starter. And I have a problem with my shoulders because I have joints hypermability. So it's like difficult really harping me to keep them over the shoulder B.

So it can pop up easily. My problem is mostly with arms and shoulders when I'm doing anything with like in both extra weight with my arms it hurts and like I'm really sometimes feel it's gonna pop up especially when it's like my hand goes like out like that so I'm trying to do this way because then it's gonna be easier but I'm not sure how right it is doing doing wrong. And I was thinking to start on a ball, but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able because of my shoulders. Should I just run starter second time?

You would be okay running starter again. That wouldn't be a problem. You can also start in pre-phase of anabolic. Also think symmetry would be different. But there's two thing, two piece of advice that I think we're going to do that will be really good for you. One, and what I've worked with people with hypermobility, shoulder joints are quite common sort of the hips, slow your reps down. That's number one.

Number two, shorten your range of motion. So don't try to do your full range of motion but make it a little bit shorter. And then the third thing I'm going to say is isometrics are going to be your best friend. Beautiful. So a great exercise for you for like shoulders would be to hold the dumbbell straight up over your head and create tension or hold it right where you feel like it might be a little unstable but then just hold the weight there and create tension, or create tension at the bottom position where you're supporting it with the muscle.

Isometrics are going to be excellent for someone like you, because, and this is just where you hold the weight in the position and connect to the feeling of tension, that's going to help you create stability quite a bit. That, by far, is the most... That'll be the most valuable thing that I tell you right now is to utilize isometric in your daily training because that's going to help a lot with that stability. Do you think like, because each face has different repetition, like sometimes it's up to eight, sometimes up to 12. Is it better for me lower

the weight and have more position? No, the idea is to follow the program the way it's laid out. So if we have it, if we have it with lower reps, the ideas that you increase weight, and then when it has higher reps, you lower the weight. So you want to, you want to follow the program the way it's laid out and not change it and necessarily modify it. Where I would modify it for you is, especially when we're doing shoulder stuff, is I would actually do that kind of isometric pause in every exercise

that's with my shoulders. So if you have a shoulder press exercise, I would pause at the bottom for a second or two, press, pause at the top for a second or two, and then come down. So I would create these isometric holds in every exercise that we, you know, you know, even like a lateral raise we'd raise, I'd have you hold and then come down. And so you would have to do a little bit lighter weight in order to follow the rep count to do that. But all shoulder exercises, I would have you do that one modification. But in the program, when we have you move from, you know, eight to 10 reps to then 15 to 20 reps, you wanna follow the program in the way it's laid out.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's the greatest advice is di-symmetrics from those different positions, from the rack position, from out wide and then overhead. And too, you can also work on that as well with a cable. So let's say you're know, you're able to then have it on a top position. And so it's also like you're pulling down and just holding and isometrically squeezing that weight in place. Same thing out wide, same thing overhead, just so you get that contrast and you get that

connectivity there where your your shoulder is is really just trying to focus on creating that kind of tension to be able to brace and keep everything in place. And yeah, I mean, there's a way to intensify that if it gets to a point where you're pretty good and you're pretty solid with that, where if you have access to a kettlebell, I just love having those same positions with a bottom's up position. So it really intensifies the stability where it's gonna be pulling you left to right and rotation. So it's gonna challenge you a lot in terms of balance and control. So you can go light with that

because it really is an incredible challenge to be able to hold that. But I mean, other than that, just working your way through that with the mobility rotational type exercises that you can apply, just really focus on slow, controlled, creating tension, every incremental movement with that, you're just squeezing and trying to connect to that muscle tension.

Yeah, with the wraps, it's, it's always gonna be appropriate weight. So if you did good technique and control for 15 reps and then the program says you gotta do eight reps, you still wanna have good technique and control. You just add weight that allows you to do that appropriately. That's all. So it doesn't mean you go crazy with the weight. It's always appropriate weight, okay? So low reps aren't gonna be inherently more dangerous

for you than higher reps. In fact, I can sometimes make an argument that higher reps can sometimes become a little bit more risky for somebody with hypermobility. In fact, when I trained people with hypermobility, I would train quite often in the low rep ranges. We wouldn't max out, but I would just have them learn how to create lots of tension. But your best friend Kate is going to be isometrics, okay? So take your exercise, Adam gave great advice, stop the rep, you know, where you feel a little instability, create tension, squeeze, try and make it feel stable, and then complete the rep. If you need to go light it or do so, that's great, there's nothing wrong with that.

But isometrics are what's going to help you create the stability more than anything. So I would definitely place an emphasis on those for the shoulder exercises. Great, thank you so much. It's just like discouraging because squad I kind of progress well, but with arms I cannot put it at all. Well, let me ask you this, you maybe aren't adding weight to the dumbbells, but do you feel more stable with the exercise in your shoulders? You'll add a little bit, yes.

Okay, then you progress. So we don't always measure progress by the weight on the bar. You know, progress comes in many different ways, and sometimes it's just I can do it now, or I feel better now, or I feel safe now. That's also progress. So, and nobody progresses, there's nobody whose entire body progresses exactly the same way. Everybody has areas that progress more with weight than others, or you gotta focus on stability

more than other areas, that's normal. So, don't beat yourself up over that. Perfect, thank you so much for answering today. No problem, okay, thank you very much. Have a good day. You too. We need to, we need to like, I mean, isometrics is so underutilized. I think I don't think people really realize without you. We've been championing it for a while. I mean, it's just, it's hard to convey, you know, how effective they are and how important they are because it's just, it's part of that

unsexy part of training where you just, you overlook it a lot, but the benefits are incredible. It's because it's hard to explain what's going on. So I actually just said, real smart guy had this, because you're standing still. Well, like, so I had this guy that I ran into, I hadn't seen it a long time, real real smart, I think engineer and investor, dude, shoulder issues.

And I was trying to explain to him, and he's like, oh yeah, I was trying to tell him the mobility stuff that we have and what I'd be doing with him and everything. He's like, oh no, no, no, yeah, I stretch my shoulder all the time. Well, there's a difference. And mobility is different.

And there's an isometric component in the mobility exercises that I'd have you do. Oh, and he kept like, like, cutting me off. And I'm like, no, let me explain what's going on and why, and he's just likeometric component in the mobility exercises that I'd have you do. And he kept like, like, cutting me off. And I'm like, no, let me explain what's going on and why. And he's just like, oh, yeah, why get this cord on his head? I'm like, stop. It's just that it's for the average person, it's hard to communicate.

And this is what I explained to him. It's like, you're, you have to understand your humorousness, like floating, right? In there, it's not like it's, it's a, the shoulder and the hip are like the most complex joints in our body. The shoulder even has a scapula involved in all kinds of things. The capable of the most range of motion. Right, so it has this ability to do, and what it's doing when you have someone that's

hypermobile, it's like all over the place. And so what we're doing with isometrics is we're trying to get all those muscles that are around the shoulder to wake up and fire and to help stabilize it and keep it more stable in there so it's not all over the place. And so doing something like an isometric move, if you just load the bar and keep loading the bar, it's still going to be a wobbly and all over the place. But if we can do an isometric contraction and we can recruit as many of these muscles around the shoulder to help get them firing and support that, this is going to help you in that pursuit. So even though you're not moving a bunch of way and you're just staying in a fixed position and you're trying to contract and do this isometric contraction there, you're getting

tremendous benefit for what you're trying to accomplish. I think it's just understanding what's going on is why people, because they don't feel like they're doing anything. There's holding in those positions like, how is this really helping my shoulder? I think it's about the effort you're putting in in those positions more so than just holding something. You have to really actively connect to that and increase that recruitment process. It's squeezing a bit harder, a bit harder, intensify it yourself. You have to put the effort in.

Our next color is Emily from New York. Hi, Emily. How can we help you? Hi. My name is Emily. I'm 21 years old from Buffalo, New York. And I have a question about what my training focus should look like while I'm prioritizing my gut health.

So I'm currently working with Dr. Becky Campbell to work through my SIBO, Leaky Gut, IBS, all of the things, and I don't know what to focus on right now in terms of working out. I've been really frustrated the past two years with my lack of progression in the big three lists, and I didn't realize until I was listening to you guys that it was probably my gut health kind of folding me back.

And I finally accepted earlier this year that I probably should step away from the intensity of facing VR's all the time. And so I decided to focus on other things like my pistol squat, progressing single-like RDLs, working on my hit mobility, just some other things instead. That being said, my primary goal is to get back

to training heavy, because I really love that. And I still wanna put on muscle. So how soon is too soon for me to focus on this again? And like what other skills should I work on in the meantime to best set myself up for success when I go back to training heavy? And should I still be in this muscle gain mindset or is that kind of just deterring me from getting better?

How far are you with Dr. Becky Campbell's team with working with your gut issues? Did you just start? Yeah, we've only recently met within the past month, but I've been working with other doctors on this for like two years, so it's been a long time. Have you done antibiotics? Oh, yeah. No, I think that was part of the issue. I was on antibiotics for like four years for my skin and they never told me that it could really must be. Okay, well you're young, so you're going to balance real quick. But how big of a role do you think stress plays with your gut issues? Because I see your question that you're going to school for neuro science?

Yeah, no, I'm about to graduate in like four days. So I'm a senior in college. And then are you going to keep going? Are you going to go for master's PhD? Are you done? I'm taking a gap year or two to get more clinical hours and then I'm going to go back to school to be a TA. So hopefully I to work in functional medicine but under a DL doctor. Okay, so you're you've got some stress on you. Yeah, yeah, I try my best to manage it. I love to walk. That really helps me. And I started doing breath work in the morning and that helps, but it's hard to not be stressed out. Yeah, I think

okay. So, so here's what I'm gonna say. You're working with Dr. Becky Campbell. She's one of the best in the business. You just started working with her. So there's a process of killing off the bad bacteria, rebuilding up good bacteria, then there's a process of healing, which takes a little while. That places a large stress on the body. And if you're already stressed exercising with a goal of progressing in performance, it's probably not a good idea. So I would treat exercise right now as a way to just make yourself feel good. Yeah, recuperative.

You know, so like two days a week of full body strength training would be great. Now it would probably is gonna happen, and I wouldn't rest your hat on this, but what might happen is you'll actually progress just from taking a little break. But I would go two days a week full body, and the rest of the time I would work on just mobility

and just feeling good. That's all I do. Walking, yoga, more recuperative, you know, manage that stress bucket a little bit better. It's a really hard question to answer because it's so individualized based off of how fast and how well you progress with Becky Campbell. Now, the one thing that I would caution, and this isn't actually no different than

somebody who just tore an Achilles or the MCL or ACL and you start rehabbing. The tendency that we have is we start rehabbing, we start feeling better, and then we start wanting to push our limits, and then we have this massive setback. We see the same thing with gut health. Somebody starts working with a functional practitioner, they start making good food choices. They're starting to feel really good, and then they start chasing the PRs again, and then they have this big setback again.

And so you're just gonna have to really listen to your body and be careful of being tempted to wanna push as soon as you feel a little bit better. I would just slowly inch my way up in that direction before I throttle down and or if you start to inch your way up and you start noticing little setbacks, listen to your body and go back the other direction versus trying to force your way through it just because you feel a little bit better.

So I'm so glad you said that out on that such a big point because you'll through the treatment process or through this process, you will feel better. You'll start to absorb nutrients better and you're gonna feel strong. But the healing process hasn't been completed yet. So what Adam said is extremely important. If you continue to work with Dr. Becky Campbell's team, they will, through testing, be able to advise you

and tell you you're doing too much when it comes to exercise or stress. So I would ask for their feedback as well. Hey, I feel like I can do more. What do you think? What do my tests say? Oh, your cortisol's a little high, inflammation's still high. I think we should back off for, yeah,

everything looks good. Go ahead and inch it up a little bit. So I would definitely use their discretion in terms of how hard you should go. But generally speaking, maps and a ball that the two day week version would be perfect. I would do that, and then the rest of the time,

work on mobility and just being generally active. And I don't think you're gonna see your body backslide at all. So if you're worried about like, oh my god, I'm gonna lose muscle and gain body fat, what will probably happen is you'll probably actually move forward a little bit through that. So, yeah, that's the silver lining. When you're able to actually go through the healing process,

how much better your body operates and functions and will allow you to throttle up a bit more in terms of force production. It'll all come back. It's just you got to give your body that adequate time to really heal itself. Did you test for SIBO with Dr. Becky Campbell so they were able to positively identify that that's what you got going on. Yeah, I tested positive over the summer and I tested positive in the winter. And then we just ran another test.

So it's been present for a while. Okay. Okay. You know what CBO and CFO, which is related, is that you'll see that you'll get rid of it, but then there's a process of continuing to work where it doesn't come back, because the reoccurrence rate is so high, because I think people celebrate too quickly. That was me. That was me too.

Yeah, so it's a longer process than people realize, but the hard part is in the beginning. Once you figure it out and how to treat it and work with it, then you'll see a lot of progress, but then don't lay off the throttle and be like, oh, that's what I would do. I feel better. Let me go eat all these things that I know used to bother me, let me not do the protocol anymore,

and then boom, I'd get a reoccurrence again, and just over and over again. So I forgot who it was we had on the show, was the Fengishal the functional measurement practitioner that worked with They usually I get it's like a two year. He said it's like a year or two. Yeah, year or two process That doesn't mean you don't get better faster. You do it's just it's still there's still that after Care that you do considering that was will call will call Dr. Will call did you listen to that episode? I've been listening for like a year and a half, so probably. Okay.

Cool. It was in there. All right. Well, you're on the right track if you're working with the right people. So I think, do you have maps in a ball? I don't have anabolic, but I was wondering would maps performance be too much if I did two of those days? No, that's perfectly fine.

Do you have mass performance? I don't have that. All right, I'm going to send you anabolic amp performance. So you take your pick, okay? Yeah, either one would be good for you, for sure. Awesome. Thank you guys so much. You got it.

Go ahead. Can I ask one more question? Sure. So I ran map symmetry over the winter as like my first step of kind of taking my intensity back because I was running like a powerless reprogram and I could tell that I was getting really unsymmetrical and also my stomach and all that. So, I decided to run Map Symmetry. But with all of the mobility, it kind of seems like one of my hips has unlocked. A certain level of mobility in my other one hasn't.

So I've noticed I've been shifting a little bit with my spots. So performance. I'm not sure. Do you master performance? Yeah, do you master performance in symmetry would even be a good program to go back to? It could take a little longer. So how long did you powerlifting training before you went into symmetry? I did it for, it was about four months before that I ran Maths Strong and then I wanted, I kind of wanted to do strong

as a precursor to Power Left, so then I did that. And I could just feel the imbalances kind of coming on so I knew it was time to do some. It may just need a little bit more of that attention of lateral stability, rotational stability, of really get it familiar of how, you know, in terms of if you're in the sagittal plane quite often and then now, if you're introducing these other ranges of

motion and not quite getting strong with that yet, like it may need a little bit more attention that direction. Yeah, and I just want to comment on a college, a girl your age in college, your choice of programs is amazing. Yeah. Usually young, young women are like, are like, hit in cardio and whatever. You're like strong, power lift, symmetry, like good job. Yeah, those are the right programs.

But I think symmetry and performance will probably be the ones that you're gonna benefit from most in that regard. Take a look at your feet too, Emily, when you squat, pay attention to many times when we'll see issues or discrepancies in one hip or the other. It actually stems a lot of times All the way from the feet and it'll do this kind of zigzag thing. So if it's my

Right foot then it jumps to my left knee to my right hip So when you pay attention the next time you're squatting and you see this kind of asymmetrical shift you're talking about and See if you notice something in the feet many times on the side, you will see that foot's pronating more, or it has this external rotation, excessively in comparison to the left. And there might be some hip ankle stuff for us to address that will actually eliminate and alleviate some of the stuff going on in the hip.

Yeah, great point. Awesome, cool. Thank you guys so much. All right, thanks for calling in, dude, so a lot of people know this, but those Acne antibiotics, they'll put them on for years. It's a little nuclear bomb. Oh, you annihilate. You're good.

You annihilate. If you, people, you need to, before you do something like that, read people's accounts of how, what happened to them afterwards. Those are one of the worst treatments in my opinion. And I know acne can be something terrible to deal with, but do your research on that, man, you are nuking your gut for a while to get rid of acne. And then you're left with these crazy after effects. I've worked with clients since, like, oh my gosh, this is going to be really hard.

Yeah, the one thing I just cautioned or what I made the point already, just gonna double down on it is that, you know, we, and I just find this with the gut with injuries, like I was talking about with the knee or hip or ankle, like, you know, we have this tendency of when we rehab, we start feeling better to like wanna push the limits right away and then that's when the setbacks come. So it's no different for the gut.

So when someone's performing driven like that. That's why I feel that way, right? She's got that kind of athletic mindset. Go get her, right? Type A personality probably. So start feeling better with the gut and then starts either one introducing those foods that were, you know, messing around before or pushing the limits in the weight room

or the combination of both, right? Starting introducing the foods plus pushing limits and then you have this huge setback. And then a lot of times these clients think that, oh, the functional medicine thing didn't really work, you know, and they go back to like thinking like, oh, it's not, it's a bunch of BS, it's not really helping me, but it's like,

no, you gotta stick to it a lot longer than that. Our next caller is Aaron from Colorado. Hi, Aaron. How can we help you? Hi, guys. Hey. So I just want to start out with the obligatory. Thank you.

I've been listening for about a year now and you guys have not only changed my life, but my husbands. And I feel like we're finally on the right track. So thank you. Awesome. Rad. So I wrote in.

I started anabolic last September, and I started with the two day awake version. And then I redid it again with the three day awake version. Before that, I'm pretty new to weightlifting. So the first round, I kind of felt like it was just getting handle on things. And then on my trigger days, I kind of felt like it was just getting handle on things. And then on my trigger days, I do trigger sessions, and then I do mobility work from Prime and Prime Pro.

I do Adams Prime Pro video a lot, because I feel like it's just pretty much covers everything that I need to work on. So the reason why I wrote in though is because the last six weeks or so, I'm really starting to notice that I'm crooked. My left shoulder is about an inch higher than my right shoulder right now. And I think it might be stemming from my right shoulder rolling forward. And then I notice on my lower half, my right foot really points out like when I squat or just when I'm standing. Even if I try and correct it when I squat, by the time I'm done squatting, it's back out pointing farther than the left one. plan was to move on to performance next. So I was just kind of wondering if that is

still the right way to go or if I should focus on something else or. I say symmetry. We got the right program for you. Symmetry, huh? Map symmetry will do. We'll take care of all that. Symmetry coupled with prime pro, I think, is your answer.

So it follows symmetry the way it's laid out. And then you can go to performance next. Then you can follow the program. But I think symmetry is gonna, it'll take care of what you're talking about. If it doesn't the first time around, do it again. But that's okay. That's bet.

By far, you can use some of the stuff in Prime Pro like to complement symmetry, right? So I'd run symmetry the way it's laid out. And then because you have Prime Pro, you know, we're talking about shoulder and ankle hip stuff, like you could do movements in there. laid out. And then because you have Prime Pro, you know, we're talking about shoulder and ankle hip stuff, like you could do movements in there. So on your off days, or like you can't, you can't really do too much of the corrective mobility work. So, you know, look

at some of the exercises that we have for shoulder, hip and ankle, for some of those issues. And then, you know, if you have have time between stuff you're doing at work or at home or on your off days, feel free to do that Prime Pro stuff as much as you possibly can and then follow symmetry laid out. And I think we should see some of that come together. Yeah, take some of those internal rotational mobility exercises, keep those banks.

So that way you bring them in as your primers going forward towards your workouts. And I know like performance will kind of highlight that a bit too with some rubber bands and things to be able to kind of get that connectivity established first thing. So that way too, you're gonna perform at your highest throughout your workout. You know what he means by that, Aaron?

What he meant by that? Like where, so take your shoulder, shoulder hip and ankle from Prime Pro that, like where, so take your shoulder, shoulder hip and ankle from Prime Pro that you like the best or that you can take from the video I did, that's fine also. 90. So take those movements and those become staple movements you do before you do any workout in symmetry.

So you start, that's how you would start. You start by doing some of those. That's your warm up. That's your warm up every time before you work out. And then you go into the symmetry program. So and then of course, if you've got more time to do it throughout the day, do it even more. But at least before you go to lift, start every workout first with those, you know, three

main mobility movements to address those areas. It's just like anything else. We're teaching the body to respond appropriately. So it takes a lot of reps. And so to do a lot of reps with like, not much damage or intensity, like, that's where mobility is like your best friend to be able to constantly introduce that and everything you do until the problem sort of resolves itself. Symmetry is the best program though.

You follow that and you'll start to see things balance out for sure. Just remember to start with the weaker side. So every exercise that's unilateral, right? Every exercise that's like one side and then the other side. Start with the weaker side and then let that weaker side dictate the weight and the reps for the stronger side. Even if it feels easy for the stronger side, follow the weaker side. That'll balance you out. Okay. So is symmetry like anabolic where it has like trigger days too? Or So is symmetry like anabolic where it has like trigger days to or? No, symmetry is a, is a different program. So just follow it as it's laid out.

Don't do it. You don't need to add anything to it. The only thing you could add is what I was saying about the warmups with the, the warmups. Yeah, the warmups. You can do that on off days as much as you can. We're just getting better connectivity. We're working on mobility, range of motion there. So the more you do that, the better off you're going to be.

So that is your, if you have time, or you got, oh, I got a free date today, do your prime pro work, do more of that. Have you said you're kind of new to strength training? Is this your first time ever doing strength training? Yeah, before this, I did the 30 beach body program. So it was mostly just light dumbbell work. Sure.

So this is, by the way, don't feel bad, okay? This is why there, this is part of the reason, not all the reason, but this is part of the reason why there's so much value in working with a really good trainer or coach, because what you're noticing is very normal. If I take anybody who's never done strength training and have them progress through the big lifts,

which are all bilateral, meaning both arms, both legs, you will see imbalances between the right and left because we start out that way. And so a good trainer is able to spot that and work on them as you're continuing to progress. So don't feel bad, this is very, this is expected. Not only that, but- This is why we created symmetry.

I mean, I think you should commend yourself already. The fact that you had the awareness to have prime and have prime pro and you're asking a question like this. Yeah. So a lot of people just just keep going. Just keep on going and just ignore that there's this imbalance from one side to the other. The fact that you're aware of it,

already working towards it, want to know how to program around it is a great sign you're going to move in the right direction. So I love hearing that. Yep. Thank you. We're sending that to you. Okay. Awesome. Thank you guys so much. You guys are right, Aaron. Thank you. Take care. Do you guys get the feeling we prevented a divorce? I think. Now we're back. We're on the right track. Between that and the ulyrie. I feel like we have a lot of success.

Keep the marriages together. Yeah. You know, I tell you, just for anybody listening, there really is nothing more valuable than having a really good coach or trainer train you because everybody's body responds a little differently. I would, like all of us in this room would have seen this before it became obvious to her. Now, for the average person, when it becomes an obvious discrepancy, there

were signs that were already there way before. They just didn't necessarily notice them. Right. And a good trainer would stop it before it progressed into something that, you know, the average person could notice. I do want to point out though that that is the difference between a good trainer and a great trainer though right there. That's right. Right.

You can see this before. Yeah. I mean, that, when I think of the first five to 10 years versus the back five to 10 years, this is the big difference is, you know, as a trainer in my early career, it was all around, you know, what's your goal? I want to look a certain way. I want to lose weight. I want to build muscle, macros and intensity pushing. These things didn't become issues until they became big issues. Yes. And so versus the more experienced trainer

is let me see you move. And then I see how they move. And immediately I'm already addressing this type of stuff. So definitely if you can find a trainer that is experienced like this, they're worth your weight and goal. Our next caller is Marco from Italy. Marco, how's it going? How can we help you?

wrapping it one Jornal Sal How's it going? Good. How are you? We're doing good. What can we do for you? Yeah, my question is about Mops programs and fasting so I'm a great fan of fasting mainly for the The question is about MOPs, programs and fasting.

So I'm a great fan of fasting, mainly for the spiritual benefits. I'm a little bit of a freak. I spend the last few years studying Taoist practices and meditation, but I love working out as well. And so I was wondering since I started recently anabolic for the first time and I feel my metabolism is Way higher way stronger. I am eating way more and it feels great. I'm stronger. I Still would like to introduce some I don't know two three days fasting in a while, like once every month or every other month.

Would you suggest not doing that or reducing that since one of the purposes of the program is that of increasing metabolism? No, I love this. You're fine. You know, if you go back far enough, Sal was on this kick for a while, where he was fasting every month on a like a two.

The 72 hour fact. Yeah, two, three day fast. He would do once a month, he would do this. And there's tremendous benefit, especially since you're the purposes that you're doing it. You don't have this weird relationship with food. Maybe it's not gonna slay your metabolism down. No food. And it's not gonna slay your metabolism down. No, it's not gonna slay your metabolism down.

It's not gonna hurt your gains even. In fact, I think, and I would time it. Like, so that, this is how I do, especially if you're at the spiritual practice, right? So the day that the three days you decide to fast, this would be a more recuperative week. I'd also make that my kind of my D-load week. So you'd have this, you bring back the intensity

a little bit on your weight training, you'd focus on meditation, your spiritual. You don't even have to know weight training. Yeah, or not. That should be your de-load week. So de-load that week or really scale it back. And I mean, I would think of that like this is my week of working inward for a week.

And that's gonna be the focus, eating no food, and then meditating, things like that. And then when I come out of it, I'm back to refeeding and training hard. I bet you'd see tremendous strength gains, great things for metabolism. All positive. Health will be positive, everything will work out well.

I think that'll be, that's a perfect, that's a perfect advice right there. Marco, that's amazing. I have a question for you. How? Yes. Because I know you're in Italy right now. So have a question for you. How? Yes, because I know you're in Italy right now. So I need to ask you this question. What does your mom think about when you fast? How do you tell this to your mom? What is her reaction when you tell her,

no, mom, I'm not going to eat for next three days. She throws something. Look, this is funnier. I'm back at my mom's for a few months and she's fasting with me. And she's coming with Jim with me now. So she's working out. She's a key. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My grandma killed me probably. For you.

What part of Italy are you in? Near a Genoa on the right of the frontier with friends on the coast. Oh, good gorgeous. Yeah, I mean, on those days you fast, I mean, the goal is you said spiritual mental. The exercise I would do on those days is walking, I would spend time outside, stretching, yoga, that kind of stuff.

And then when you're done with the fast, get back to your strength training. I mean, you did that once a month, you would get great. There would be no problems at all. Fantastic. Because I just finished phase one, and I just wanted to fast so bad. I did it.

And I thought, put it between phase one and phase two, or at the end of the whole program, because they last a month, each phase more or less, three or four weeks. Marko, thank you. But I just got today the t-shirt and the hat. Well, it's good on you. Marko, do you have But it's not today, this t-shirt and the hat. It's good on you. Marko, do you have MAPCentabolic Advanced? No, no, I don't.

Okay, I'm going to send that to you because in MAPCentabolic Advanced, there's a week of deload in between each phase. That would be a perfect time for you to do it fast. Thank you. Thank you very much. You got it. And one last thing, of course everybody says thank you for everything, but especially I want to say thank you and they heard it on the podcast as well that was released I think yesterday or two days ago.

You guys are all of you a great example for as young men of fatherhood of meloness with in my opinion at least the great a great balance between strength and determination and all these very masculine qualities and being vulnerable, being humble. It's great to have people like you to look up to. Thank you very much. Thank you very much Marco. I appreciate that. That's a nice compliment. Thank you. All right. Thank you for the good work. Thank you. All right, Mark. Thank you, too. Thank you. We definitely are the most humble people in it. We're close to nothing like that. Everything else is good.

Yeah. Yeah. I had to ask you about what his mom said because I know him, I mean, and my culturally. It's great. That's great. It's great. about what his mom said because I know I mean in my culture That's great. He's great. He got his mom on board. Yeah, he got his mom fasting and he's that you know Yeah, I actually foresee us in the future not the near future before I get all the comments So that writing a program like this where we integrate yeah It's like a longevity health more focus and I think I would totally do this where there's a one to three day fast.

For every single month. He's gonna have to have a curve with this. Yeah, no, that's a, what a great, great balance, you know? And so I think that would be a really cool thing to hear how that goes for him. That's awesome. Look, if you like Mind Pump, head over to Mind Pump Free.com and check out our fitness guides. We have a lot of free fitness guides that can help you with all kinds of fitness goals. Also come join us on Instagram, find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, find me at Mind Pump to Stefano and find Adam at Mind Pump Adam.

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