Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2193: How to Correct Back Issues From Excess Sitting, How to Train When You Have a Newborn, Thing We Wish Were Taught in School & More

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: Look to the past! Often, if you live more like the ways we evolved to live, you will solve a lot of your health problems. (2:03) An update on Justin’s Sibo protocol. (16:40) Adam’s design thread group chat. (19:32) The benefits of air purifiers. (20:55) Kids are hilarious. (23:22) Fostering the things your kids are into. (25:47) Old wisdom from the godfathers of fitness. (35:19) The mystery surrounding who wielded the Norimitsu Odachi. (38:21) Sal’s experience with mouth taping. (41:58) The signs your partner wants to have sex. (45:03) Adam the deal maker, (aka likable asshole). (47:25) Fun Facts with Justin: The Time Traveling Hipster. (53:58) New product alert! Shilajit gummies from Organifi. (58:06) Shout out to the Dungeon Crawler Carl Book Series. (1:03:03) #Quah question #1 - How do you fix back issues at work from sitting down all day? (1:04:14) #Quah question #2 - My wife and I are expecting our first child in seven months. How should I train and eat now to set me up for a successful first year of being a father? (1:10:33) #Quah question #3 - What does it mean if I never feel hungry? I can go all day without eating and never feel hungry even though I can tell I need to eat because my energy is low. (1:14:33) #Quah question #4 - For each of you, what five things do you wish they taught in school? (1:21:42) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** October Promotion: MAPS Bands | The Skinny Guy ‘hardgainer’ Bundle 50% off! **Code OCTOBER50 at checkout** Smoking Rates by Country 2023 Big Vape: The Rise and Fall of Juul - Netflix Norimitsu Odachi: Who Could Have Possibly Wielded This Enormous 15th Century Japanese Sword? TIME TRAVELING HIPSTER IN THE 1940s Benefits of Shilajit Dungeon Crawler Carl Book Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off** Mind Pump #1277: How To Eliminate Pain (Low Back, Shoulder, Knee & More) The Active Plank- An 6-Pack Building Powerhouse How To Properly Do The Seated Cable Row (IT MATTERS!) The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America’s Wealthy How an Economy Grows and Why It Crashes – Book by Peter Schiff Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral) Instagram Alex Hormozi (@hormozi) Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness) Instagram  

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come from the following. Our environments have radically changed. Meanwhile our bodies have not. What does that mean? For most of human history, modern humans have lived in a particular way. Then all of a sudden radically everything changed. Okay, so what do you do with this information? and radically everything changed. Okay, so what do you do with this information? Look to the past. Oftentimes, if you live more like the ways we evolve to live, you'll solve a lot of your health problems. This includes nutrition, activity, sleep, and more.

Again, it's not 100%, but it's pretty down close. Live the way humans lived for thousands and thousands of years or at least look for the answers there and you'll probably find them. Not to counter that great message. But do you think that what we're experiencing in the last, I'd say, I don't know, 30 years or so, more law and how fast everything is evolving and changing,

that we as a species will actually speed up our ability to adapt to the changing environment and the changing things that we throw at it. Like part of why we are riddled with chronic disease right now, part of why there is an obesity epidemic is because we introduce these processed foods not that long ago and over-consumed my crazy and we haven't given our bodies enough time to adapt to this bullshit. Do you think there is light at the end of the tunnel or an optimistic view of our bodies, a resiliency and ability to adapt? Not from an evolutionary standpoint because we also have simultaneously figured out how to keep ourselves alive, not healthy,

but alive long enough to procreate. So the way it would have worked in the past was something changed in the environment. Let's say we live in a tribe and all of a sudden we have to migrate to a place that's cloudy. Well, all the darker skin people are probably not going to be able to survive or procreate because darker skin people take a lot more sunlight to produce the same vitamin D. So what's left over are people with very light skin. But that means that the people who didn't fit the new environment didn't

procreate and died. Now, we do a very good job of keeping people alive. So the evolutionary pressures are not the same. Also the environment is changing so radically and so quickly, I don't think we can evolve that quickly. I think what's probably, look, I'm also not making the argument that we should live in caves and do all that because I know that not making the argument that we should live in caves and you all that, because I know that that's the argument that people

will make like, oh, okay, well, I guess we should live in caves and throw rocks. No, no, no, but there's a lot of answers there. For example, you're probably better off eating a diet that is more like the way that we evolved it. You're probably better off sleeping in the same ways we slept back, you know, thousands of years ago where we went down with the someone down, we came up with the someone up,

we weren't constantly under electric, you know, electric lights, activity, social, you know, connection, all that stuff. And that's what we're discovering. It's like we've modified our environment so much. It doesn't match our bodies and our brains and our psyche. And so we have all these chronic health issues that just now we're just now starting to realize, oh, this is because we're living in ways that our bodies didn't evolve or maybe we're designed to live. Yeah, well we used to rely on genes mutating and then that would require a lot of the population to die off and then this new generation to pass on these new genes and You know said and so forth, but yeah, we've done a better job of keeping like almost everybody alive in terms of like interventions and and health care But I think the only way like the adaptation process might

Play a different factor in the future is when they get even crazier at this gene editing and all that kind of stuff. But obviously for what we can control to the message, what we've learned from all of these generations preceding us, that's the stuff that's held, you know, the most amount of time in terms of like best practice. For thousands of years. For thousands of years. So why not pay attention to that?

Okay. So then the next question is then, okay, if that, this is true and I agree with you that our bodies probably will not be able to adapt to the changing environment right now. Does the continued rise in all the chronic issues that we have in our society, is it enough, and at what point is it enough to push us in the direction of realizing like, oh, maybe we will cut out some of these electronics, maybe we will stop eating a lot of this processed foods,

maybe we will challenge our body in hot and cold temperatures and not try and regulate the temperature per real time, maybe we will choose to walk instead of right around on these scooters. Do we we do that? And do as a whole society, because obviously there's there's subsets of small groups of people that live that way or think this way, right? And Amish would be an example of that. Do we, do we all start to move that way? Do we start to reject some of the, you know, technological things that are, that continue to move forward, you know, according to Moore's law, or do we continue to adopt it until

it just destroys it? I don't know about reject, but we probably will direct them definitely. Like, there's lots of evidence that shows that as societies become more modern and we meet our basic needs, like food, shelter, water, and we become more wealthy, then we start to focus on problems that are more distant from us. So it's like nobody cares about the ozone layer when I don't have food to feed.

So I'm just gonna burn charcoal and dung and I'm gonna do whatever I can to provide food for myself and my family. But past a certain point when things are all these basic needs are met, then we start to look at other things. Okay, well, we should probably worry about the ozone layer. We should probably worry about these other things. And then there are some success stories, like, you know, let it gasoline, right? We figured out that that was bad for us and we took out the lead out of gas and cigarettes. It's another big thing to bring up cigarettes, yeah. Like we learned a lot from just, you know,

seeing how that circulated through the population and how we've had to kind of manage and regulate. Yeah, meanwhile, you know how many people still smoke cigarettes? Oh, a lot. Yeah, there's, yeah, but they're educated on like a lot. A lot of percentage of the population, at least in like America, for example, it's, yeah, but they're educated. I'm like, no, no, no. Risk is still a smaller percentage of the population,

at least in like America, for example. It's declined. Oh, I mean, just America, but we're talking about the world right now. Give me the numbers on that deck. I actually saw, you know, I watched, you know, in China, I think, I wonder, I think like one out of every three or two.

Bro, it's ridiculous. It's actually, considering what we know, that's why I find this an interesting conversation and discussion is because even as much as we know. That's why I find this an interesting conversation and discussion is because even as much as we know about that, it's like one of the single things that you could either... The highest factor for any kind of like disease or cancer. You know stats, does it? If you're a smoker. Well, you know China, not that long ago was very poor. They literally just came out of extreme

poverty. So I would predict if they were able to continue, you know, becoming wealthier, which people argue, you know, that things like cigarette smoking will start to decline. What does that say, Doug? Okay. So there's some countries, I don't even know how to pronounce them. I'm not familiar with them. They're up in around the 50% range. Myanmar is the first country I recognize it. 45.5%. Half the people smoke. Half the people smoke.

And in that case, yeah, the rate of male smoking is a little bit higher than females. Right, risky. France actually is way up there. At 34.6% male, female, almost the same. I'm just seeing big countries that we, you know, I mean, I find it in China, which I find interesting like,

for example, another big country would be, United States, 25%. You know why I don't like the US as an example, Sal, even though you're gonna go there, is because These are things that we can measure because we they're not measuring the black market and I bet you There's still a massive black mark because of the amount of taxation and regulation that's been put around cigarettes Yeah, that always drives a black market so for whatever percentage we went down and smoking as Americans say like in the last say

Decatur too. I would argue that the black market also significantly increased in that. It did, but people smoke way less, dude. I mean, I agree. I mean, I agree, because you could go places, I remember, I remember as a kid compared to right now. Oh, right. I don't need stats to see that.

Oh, I'm not. I'm not saying that it's the same or more. I remember. And it's also like, I know like, I remember, in Italy when I was a kid, I was 12 and I went there. And it's also like I know, I remember, in Italy when I was a kid, I was 12 and I went there. And everybody was smoking. At the dinner table people were smoking. My cousins got delivered.

They still like you. I smoke on the plane. Dude, it's so crazy. My cousins got delivered. My cousin had a baby, years ago, a long time ago, right? I don't know, 40 years ago. She had a baby in a hospital in Sicily, and the doctor put his cigarette down to get the baby. That's who's coming out. So, I mean,

I mean, check this out, though. So I also would be curious to see these stats. I just watched that documentary on Jewel. Oh, I did? Yeah, yeah. It was good. It was just interesting because I didn't know about the whole, the whole trajectory of their story. I mean, the amount of millions and millions of people that were using vapes and e-sigs. So, okay, cigarette smoking declined, but then vaping, there wasn't even anybody who was vaping just 20 years ago. Yeah, it will be.

So, it'd be interesting to see, like, they advertised it as like a better alternative. Nicotine's obviously a better thing. It'd be worse. It'd be worse. Yeah, I know. Because the nicotine hit, the story's really interesting how it all played out too. But I mean, so I don't know.

I don't know if we're going to get better or if we're just going to get a worse. It's almost like we're, it's so sad to say this, but it's almost like we're so dumb of a species that we have to, a bunch of us really have to die off. Before we figure it out. Before we really, like it almost has to become this like crazy fear, you know, where it's like, oh my god, you're watching people die left and right in front of these. But again, I don't want to, you know, obviously modern technology is amazing. I mean, the plague in Europe killed one third of the whole population.

Yeah. Imagine that right now. Yeah. One out of every three people dead from the plague. Now, if something like that happened now, we have medicines and drugs that will, you know, handle it. That's a bacterial infection. But generally speaking, right? So I'm not an extremist in that sense. I know there's people who are like, you know, you should wear animal fur's that you, you know, kill yourself and have no electric. I'm not saying that. I could see some of the value of that argument, but I think that's not just unrealistic, but I think modern life also has some some good things.

So I'm not saying any of that, but I think there's a lot of it's a really good compass compass. It really is. You wanna look at diet, right? If you're looking at diet, you don't know what to eat. There's all these diet books that are out there and all these different ways of eating. It's like, if you eat foods that are whole natural, you're 90% of the way there. Like foods that don't require- I choose a food that you could chose 80 years ago.

Yeah, there's a simple way. Yeah, right. You can only eat foods that we had. That exists that 100 years ago. Absolutely, there's a simple way. Yeah, right. You can only eat foods that we had. That exists at a hundred years ago. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's a real easy way. Right. And even if you look at the foods that did exist a hundred years

ago, like let's look at beef, for example. Okay, so cows, they didn't eat grain. That's not a natural type of food for cows. Cows ate grass. That's what they naturally eat. It was later when we industrialized it, we realized if we pump them full grain that we could get so much more money per pound.

That's right. And they're just, they make some fat or they get way faster. But if you compare grass fed beef to grain fed beef, now people make the argument, oh, the differences aren't that big. Well, yeah, with one meal, but if you eat beef three times a week or every day

like I do, makes a difference. Do that over the course of five years, 10 years, 15, 20 years. The difference in fatty acids, the difference in nutrients, they make a difference. The fatty acid profile alone, grass fed meat is not as inflammatory as grain fed meat. I feel a huge difference. When we first started working with butcher box, so butcher box was the first time I had consistent grass fed meat.

Before that, I do the grocery store. I'd have to kind of search it out and it wasn't consistent. Now I'd say 80% of the beef that I eat is butcher box. So it's grass fed. I feel a difference. When I go on vacation or go somewhere and I go eat grass-fed, I do feel more inflamed. Well, especially through this kind of protocol,

like Dr. Cabral's got me on, it's like everything I'm doing right now is to try to kind of reduce quite a bit of this inflammation internally. I totally feel that having any kind of different type of a steak if I'm out to eat. And I have had a few when I've gone out to restaurants and I'm like, ooh, it's just one of those things.

You just feel a little bit of that maybe lethargic kind of feeling. It's hard to describe, but it's very distinctive. Yeah, you guys every game, me? Yeah. Oh, you're, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what is it? It's like it all the same. It all the same. It all the same. It's like it all the same. It all the same. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it all the skin like energizes you.

Yeah. Dude. And it pays different. Yeah. Yeah. It's got a different flavor. You know, speaking of butcher box, have any of you guys done the skillet yet? Have you guys got it yet? I've done it. Oh, you got it. Yeah. So I'm explaining this to you again.

I like it. It comes old like it's already like potato, chicken, vegetables. Right. It's like I think. Yeah. I think it's mainly potatoes and chicken. And I think bell peppers or onions are in there. Yeah, and then they have some type of spices. Kind of got a, I guess, a sauce flavor, if you will. Yeah, it's already seasoned up. I literally, I don't know how you can. I throw it in an iron skillet and then crack two or three eggs on it

and make burritos out of it. And it's all, it sounds bowl. Oh, that's a breakfast burrito. That high protein because you got the chicken, you got the potatoes and then you have the egg in there and it's already, and it's quick. That's a great idea. It's bomb.

You probably could also throw that on rice. Oh yeah, you could make it a dinner, so you could turn it into like a rice chicken type of stir fry bowl or whatever, and it's that easy, that all you have to do is cook the rice throw it over there, or I really enjoy it for breakfast. Speaking of rice and chicken, every time Justin eats that,

just go on the protocol. So, I feel something. You guys are welcome to every chicken. Every chicken, every time Justin eats, not just one of the protocol. I feel something. You guys are welcome to every chance. Every time he eats now, he eats what I eat. No, because he can't eat something. I've encouraged it like everywhere I go. I just like accept it. It's like I told you my kids that it's just funny to me. I laugh because it's like I look at it and I'm just like, oh yeah, that looks very familiar. Yeah, same meal. I had yesterday.

What's your protocol? Are you taking antimicrobial herbs? Yeah, antimicrobial herbs and then avoiding the food tosses. You know, better, reintroducing better bacteria and doing the whole SIBO protocol. So it's like, I mean, how many pills is that?

So there's a good almost 10 to 12 pills in that regiment. And then you gotta do like six before meal, like breakfast, and then you do six kind of like for dinner, and then you do all of the 12 pills or something before night. Are you experiencing any die-off? Do you know what that is? So is that like a feeling of like, so when you have like,

when you're killing off the bad bacteria, because that's your anti-microbial is you that, right, kill the bacteria, kill the bloody, and you can't, you can't get skinned. Yes, I'm just trying to describe what's happening. It means brushing, blessed me, earlier today. So, I'm like, TMI.

I get, listen, I get a lot of the jokes like before, but I wasn't like, Captain Gass over here all the time. But man, it's like, going through this, there's some cleansing happening. That's what I was saying. So you get diop, some people will feel irritable headaches, they'll get skin issues. It's called a hurt, hurt timer effect, I think.

Are you getting any of that? Or is it just like kind of like, I've kind of moving past it a bit. You noticed that at first? Yeah, but I didn't notice that. Yeah, absolutely. So, Aralius, we did a protocol on him. Now we know why, by the way, his body was reacting

because there was a mold. Yeah, but we did a protocol on him where we had, because because of the mold, his gut was unable to balance itself well. And so he had developed SIBO, you know, we did test it all that. So we did a SIBO protocol. And it made him so irritable. He was just not himself.

And it was the die off. That was happening because his toxins. That's wild. That's great. That's like ammo for me, dude. Oh, dude, yeah. Poor Courtney. She's been like That's like ammo for me, dude. Oh, dude, yeah, poor Courtney. She's been like, you are so angry these days.

Like I can't have cheese, I can't have, like, I can't even have like tomato. So you think of like sauces and like things I would normally have with that. And I forgot that. There's so many of them like, oh yeah, I guess I shouldn't be eating that like eggs too. And I was like, oh, oops. Like literally, that's why you see just chicken and rice now because it's just like easy.

That's how I'm not going to mess that up. That's how I made it. This guy tell you that I like we're on a thread. Sal, me, Katrina and Jessica, and it's like our, you know, decorating thread. I would call it. The only time we ate all that second, him and Jessica. That's the manliest thing I've ever heard you say. Listen, listen. I mean, the only reason why you're not call it. That's the only time we ate. Hold on a second. Him and Jessica. That's the manliest thing I've ever heard you say. Listen, listen.

I mean, the only reason why you're not in it, is because you're not gay. We invite me to do it. The only reason why Katrina and I are on there is because we weird for Jessica and Jessica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what they do. It's so exciting about it.

It's Cindy Chal, I swear to God, it's true now. Okay. They send each other pictures of the rooms that they just organized or designed or a drawer that I organized or look at these new pillows I got or check out this new drawer or this whatever painting. Literally, this is what they said. So we're talking last night.

And I look at this and like, I sit there over like the updated room that we just had done, right? Which looks nice by the way. Thank you. And so I sit in that night and I look at this and like I center over like the updated room that we just had done right which looks nice By the way, and so I send that over and I knew she would appreciate it And she's like oh man, she's telling me like all the shit that going through with the mold like oh my god She's like yeah, the designer is supposed to come down, but I'm waiting till we do all stuff and I said to her say You know if you were my wife, I'd let you just go by all of this. I do, I just fuck off. I'm saying, you just fuck off, bro. Oh, man.

You just let you buy all new stuff. That's what you should do. I mean, what a headache you guys are having to go through with that, huh? Well, we're just being thorough because it would really be a, it would be annoying if we, oh yeah, if you moved and brought it, right? And brought it in the new place, I would lose my mind. So Jessica's being very thorough with, you know, porous materials out,

non-porous materials cleaning them a particular way, not letting things touch each other. We now imagine doing this with a house, two little kids, a teenage dog. I mean, it must feel like you guys are like a COVID protocol Protocol me to your guys house type of deal. I feel like that's what how she's doing it, man She's like she's handling 99% of it. I basically come home and she's like what do you want me to do? Just move this thing now are you also simultaneously running those air filters to always you are ever since ever since we moved in I keep them on the whole time you do yep, Just to make sure if there's anything in the air.

I can smell it. I'm so sensitive to like smell and air, so that because I think my allergies makes me like hyper-extensitive. So when I run that air filter, I can smell and feel a difference in the air. Is that so? Yeah, like literally, I don't know if you can.

Is it using ozone to purify, or is it just a hepa filter? I don't know. I can smell ozone. It's just like this. Same one. I think there is no ozone setting on this one anyway there is. Yeah, I mean, it's actually a bigger commercial version than that.

I took that one of that company sent to us. So I have a big one. Where do you put it, it's the main room? I put it in my master. Oh, okay. Yeah, I put it in my, but I mean, I keep the master. So I have air purifiers are like this big, and I have them in every room.

Okay. And what happens with a small air purifier, is it just and I have them in every room. Oh, okay. And what happens with a small air purifier is it just takes longer to circulate the air. Yeah. So I have one in and pretty much every single room just running low speed nonstop. But when we first moved in, I turned them on high speed. Yeah. I so I try and crank mine in the day when the fan isn't annoying because it's loud. Like you crank it all the way up.

It's, whoa. I mean, it's like this thing or louder, right? When it's sucking all that. So I try in the daytime and I notice when I come, whoo, I mean, it's like this thing or louder, right, when it's sucking all that. So I try in the daytime, and I notice when I come home from work, I can like feel the difference, smell the difference in the air. I don't know if I kind of describe it,

but I can actually tell a difference. I don't know if you could tell a difference. No, I can. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can smell cleaner. Yeah, for sure, especially when you, you know when you first move in, and you got to move boxes and stuff is dusty, I can tell.

Well, you can really, I mean, the real selling point for me for using it is like, you check the filter after you've been running that thing for like a month and you see it and you're like, oh my God, that's all the shit. In fact, I need to go change the filters. Yeah. It's gonna be old dog hair.

Oh yeah, you see it and you're like, and I don't even have my dogs anymore. So I can't imagine if I had them too, it would be way worse. Yeah. Dude, I gotta tell you guys kids are hilarious, right? So my almost three year old, I went to the bathroom. He follows me. I know your kids, you know, when they were little years, do that and your son does that too, right? We get to

go bathroom. I'm coming with you. All right, whatever, dude. He's still there. Yeah. So he comes in or with me, you know, I'm going to the bathroom, just chilling sitting there. And then, you know, he looks at me, he goes, uh, why are you taking so long? I'm like, huh? And he goes, are you constipated? I'm like, what? What? How do you know what I'm talking about? You're watching commercials.

What's it like? It's so wild when they say it. He said it real good too. Constipated. Yeah. Wow, buddy. I was dying. So I go out and I'm like, what's your mom?

You said, is my mom constipated first died? I love her. You know, there's something like a fascination that kids had with flesh in the toilet when they learned how to do it like that. Because Max will do that. He just wants to flush the toilet. And he'll be in there and he'll be like, are you done yet?

Are you waiting to flush the toilet? I'm like, hey bro, quit rushing. Give a crazy flush. You're gonna come in here with me. Sit down and relax. Have you ever tried those flesh and stuff down there? No, not yet. Oh, that's good.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, very well. You had the rebellious one, right? Yeah. You have the kid who's trying to never steal a piece. He's still using too much toilet paper. I, yeah. Yeah, very well. You have to protect the rebellious one. Yeah. You have the kid who's trying to, he's never used too much toilet paper. I'm like still trying to train him like that. So Max will, so you guys know the whole funny thing

that he does, right? So he goes in the bathroom for 30 plus minutes with the lights off and his little lantern and he's like, and one of the things he does, is a lot of times you'll play with the toilet paper and so I'll come in there and he's like, got a mound of them. Yeah. Yeah, especially because you got a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you'll use it and then it just. Oh god.

You're gonna put all that in there and you're gonna have claw tips. Oh, there he is. Oh man. I remember going through that and I was like, oh my god. I'm gonna get a plumber out here. Yeah. No kids. My boy. He's just, he's so counter-author, because I have a counter-authority streak, obviously. My wife, definitely. So it must be a combination of genetics that produced the most counter-authority. And he is like, literally, if you say, don't do something, he'll do it.

So we have to be careful with what we say. And sometimes we slip up, like, oh, don't go over there. Oh, crap. You guys do it, you guys do it. over there. Oh, fuck. There you go. He's now he's curious. So I literally use it to, it's comical. If I want him to do something, I tell him not to. So like we're eating dinner.

And he's like, I'm not hungry. I'm like, run around or whatever. So like, all right, and I'll wait, you know, five, 10 minutes. Then I'll cut a piece of meat for him. But like, you better not eat this. And he'll go over, he takes a bite. He's okay. So I just do that 10 times in a row.

He's always funny. I'm a point. He comes away. So I just do that 10 times in a row. He's always funny. Yeah. What play did I figure this out? I tell you guys, so I told you I implemented that new thing with Max with the whole reading with the toys. Yeah. Bro, it is working so good that almost every day that I come home now. He's like showing me, daddy, how many books is this?

How many books is this? He wants to know how many books like everything he wants is to read. But I love it that we've taught on that. And I told you I added the whole giveaway to toys. So like it only took one time of like doing that. And he's already made that connection now that when a new toy comes in, we have to read certain amount of books in whatever daddy says that how many books for that toy. And then two toys get given to somebody. This is great. Yeah. Well, first off, it's teaching them something pretty valuable. But also, it looks like he has your work ethic.

Like, if he starts to figure out, I can do this to get that. I hope so. That's awesome. I mean, I hope so, right? I hope that's what he gets from it. And then I can't wait for the, when he can actually read.

And if I can motivate him like that. Do you guys remember that guy? We talked about a long time ago with the Pepsi points. And they made the commercial joke in the jet. Yeah, or you get a whole document. Yeah, I know. I watched that.

Yeah, that's the VBax. Dad, I want a car. I want this car. You got to read 10,000 books, doesn't it? I mean, it would be hard for me in the position that I'm in, like, because I could do something that's crazy as that. And I would probably say, oh, I wouldn't do something like that. But I mean, shit, if the kid read 10,000 books or something like that,

that I mean, the level of knowledge that he's going to do acquired. I mean, when I look at that, you were a big reader. So when you were younger, I wasn't. And so when I think, when I get asked, or I get the chance to talk to like, either like my young niece or nephew or, you know, kids that are up and coming that listened to us or whatever. I tell you what the if there was anything I could have went back and told myself it would have been to become a voracious reader earlier in my life and it just gave me the freedom to read the things I'm interested in like I just I looked at reading is like what did school tell me

I have to read it. They give you a better life, like, is like, sure. They created a bathroom. And I just, I never was attracted to novels. Yeah. And so I dreaded reading books. And so as soon as I didn't have to, I wasn't. I wasn't, I wasn't seeking it. It wasn't until, you know, it's so funny. And what motivated me was like to prove a point, so funny, what drove me to first start reading

was to like prove that I could read the books that the CEO was reading. I was like, such a stupid. I mean, you had to discover it though. And yeah, then I had to discover it of like, such a stupid. And then you had a discovery that I had a discovery of like, oh, I actually liked this type of stuff to read. But I didn't find that until I 25. My mom did a good job of fostering that

because she saw that when I was, I don't know how old I was, it was probably third grade, you know, you had the school library and then they'll let you check out books. I would check out these sci-fi books and she saw that I liked this and I've told you guys this before, she subscribed to Omni Magazine, which is like this adult sci-fi books. And she saw that I liked this, and I've told you guys this before, she subscribed to Omni Magazine,

which is like this adult sci-fi futuristic magazine. I don't understand half of what was in there, but I would try and I would read it every single time. And then she saw that I liked to read like facts. I loved reading facts, I was just into it. So then she bought a whole encyclopedia set. And then I would read the encyclopedia because I just enjoyed doing it.

So she did a really good job with that and it created a good relationship. But just think about how shitty, how many kids grow up thinking. They don't like something or it's not for me, simply because it was a bad relationship that they had as a kid. Now do you guys, okay, dad, you both,

because I think about this a lot as a dad now, right? And I know you guys are much older, wiser dads now than what you probably would say you were when you were in your late 20s or whatever. Right, I think you both would agree on now, right? And I know you guys are much older, wiser dads now than what you probably would say you were when you were in your late 20s or 20s. Right. I think you both would agree on that, right? So did you guys have the with wherewithal to see the things that your kids were into when they were young and then go like, Oh, I need to foster that. Even though it wasn't something you weren't into, right?

Like I know that the one of the things they say is like a secret hack, right? And a mistake a lot of parents make is they try and impose me trying to make my son a basketball play. As much as I talk about that, I know better than that. I have to look at, oh, he's into reading or he's in the legos. How do I double, triple down on the things that he's interested in? Not only is that foster our relationship, but then maybe that's something he finds a passion for and he ends up being very talented.

Did you guys know to do that or foster that or did that come later? Thankfully I knew that. There's a lot of things I did wrong and my 20s is a father, but that one I knew. That one if I saw my kids into something, I would find a way to make it positive, constructive, like if they were into trains,

then I'd buy books on trains and buy train toys and tracks and have them build them. That I knew. There's a lot I didn't know though. So I'm not talking about the horn. Yeah, we got them into reading real early. And that was something that I wish I would, again, to your point.

I wasn't a big reader either. Wish I was at the time. But that was something that we found like the different genres and we tried a lot of different options with them when they're real young, just to see what sparked something. And then, too, with the Legos and all that of the creativity side of it, I would spend a lot of time with them, just one-on-one, and then building and just exploring the creative

side of that, and then the music side of it, and all that. But the one hard part for me has been being real reserved with the sports and the music side of it and all that. But like the one hard part for me has been being real reserved with the sports and the physical pursuits and activities with that. So because I just really wanted that, like that was like what I was most excited was to like throw a baseball to my kids and like have that kind of interaction and we're just literally now getting to that point.

So I even had this same conversation last night we're going to a restaurant and we were talking about this because they're right now kind of like we love gymnasties, but we're like, we're done. You know, like both and it was start out with Ethan because he's older and it's like he's he's taller now and it's like I think there's kind of a cap to that sport just because of like, you know, the abilities, things you can do. Like, what his level now, like, requires is for him to jump so high up. And it's like, he's really like, it's nerve-wracking.

It's like, you know, at that point where he has to like be frightened every time he's at practice and doing this. And he's like, I don't know this is for me. I'm like, that's totally fair. You know, you know, you prove it. I'm into it's up practice and doing this. And he's just like, I don't know this is for me. I'm like, that's totally fair. You know, you know, you prove it. I'm into it too, dude. Yeah, so well, that's the thing. It's like, our deal with them is that they have to have

something that they're actively involved in, that they train for on a consistent basis, like a couple days a week, and you don't get any season off. And so the point of that is like gymnastics is year round. So we're going to be going from one thing to the next and literally just from my experience and this is my own personal experience of me and my brother, we had to have something otherwise I was going to get into some shit and I was going to, you know, go hang out

with those other kids that were doing whatever the hell, you know, but being busy and being disciplined and being focused Physically really helped me so that's just something that we're gonna make sure that is a set up. Is that a? Is that a hard thing for Is it easy conversation like the boys like okay cool? I'm down dad or they're like no? I don't really want to get to pick yeah, they get to pick yeah But you gotta think that some kids are I mean no, I don't really want to. Well, you probably get to pick. Yeah, they get to pick. Yeah, but you gotta think that some kids are, I mean, you don't wanna do anything. Yeah, I mean, you think I mean,

how well you think you would've been able to do that with the Pinnicoat, you think you could've made him play sports here around? He did, he did, but I don't, he did with school. And I hear what you're saying, cause there's always gonna be that kids, I don't wanna do anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

But there'll be days like, yeah, there'll, there'll be a lot at it and wanna just play video games and just be lazy and chill. And you know, And I get that. And those are the days we have to have harder conversations. But it's, you know, that's the agreement. And so I do give them that choice. It's like a some bit of like a freedom in that.

But it's still like, this is the standard that we're just... You know, it's so Jessica introduced me to this. And it's actually pretty interesting. So she told me about how... And let me explain it this way, maybe you guys will get it, because at first I didn't understand it, and I started getting it as I started thinking about adults.

There's a lot of adults, or let's say people in their late teens, who they think they like something, and then later they realize, I only did that because it pleased my parents, I only did that because, and so then they have to kind of figure out, like, what is it that I like and what do,

so she's really good at like, okay, when the kids do something that you are super excited about, match their excitement. Don't make, because what'll happen, because kids want to please you. So otherwise what will happen is if you're super excited about this thing, if your kid wants to please you, They'll do it just for you and never really discover their own Passion for what they're supposed to do which I didn't I never got that

I don't understand I understood the whole like let them do their thing But I was always like yay about everything But then what happens to your kids like oh, I want to please dad I want to make him do that all the time and, they don't do what they think is best for them or they don't learn to do things because of intrinsic motivation, right? It's extrinsic. I wonder if that could have a reverse effect

on some kids too though. Like if I was a dad who it's very natural to want to please your kid or please your parent. And you had this even kill response to everything that I did, then I might feel like I'm like always like, sir, what is that? No, you want to match their excitement. So let's say your kid faced you and he's like,

Dad, look at my painting. Wow, that's really awesome, right? Or they put their painting up. And instead of being like, wow, you'd be like, oh, that's cool, it looks like you really worked hard on it. Yeah, yeah. So that's because I was the same thing for me. I'm like, well, what's my kid's thing? I don't like anything. Yeah, yeah you'd be like, oh, that's cool. It looks like you really worked hard on it. Yeah, yeah. So that's that because I say that was the same thing for me. I'm like, well, what's my kid thing?

I don't like anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, right, right. I'm showing me. I'm excited to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, because I was like, you would want to show. Yeah, you don't want.

Then you just like, my dad doesn't like anything. Yeah, I'm like, what a jerk. Hey, speaking of books, I gotta tell you guys, I was reading some old fitness and health tips from some of the Godfathers of fitness. Oh, I saw you. I saw you bring this up. Bro, you will not believe I told some of the stuff that they, that are so Vince Garando

is a bodybuilder from the 50s and 60s. Okay, so this is like the, I guess you could call it pre-Golden Era, or maybe Golden Era of Bodybuilding. Maybe one of the most respected bodybuilder guys in that time, right? He was like one of the first like science, like they would consider him science-based bodybuilders, who kind of like said, no, this gotta be this way and do this,

and this is why he preached against cardio for fat loss. Yeah. He's done. He literally said for conditioning for endurance loss. Yeah. He's done. He literally said, for conditioning, for endurance, totally fine, do not do it for fat loss. Here was his reasoning. Remember, this was in the 60s, nobody understood. Wisdom.

Any of the stuff, this is what he said. If you do cardio for fat loss, like if that's your goal with the cardio, you run the risk of losing muscle, which will then slow down your metabolism. How crazy is that? This guy was saying that. So great. Back then. Yeah.

It's pretty awesome. Then, Jack Elaine, who is one of my absolutes. That's what I told a few people. Yeah, I mean, some of the stuff that he said is just so incredible. What he said, some of his thoughts. Well, it's profound considering that they came up with that without having all this crazy research and studies that we have today Right, so today we have all these controlled studies where we can lean on and say well see this is what the science says But these guys had pieces together through just now Jack Lillane was he was on TV at the time he had

Remember I actually had a client trip off this I had a client her 80s and she used the watch Jack Lillane exercise videos. Yeah, and he would do this workout. He made his wife, I remember they were warm up as a trip. Yeah, bro, he would wear these like, they look like dance slippers and he would use a chair and demonstrate exercises with the chair. Yeah, with these like kicking his leg out and doing the stuff and he'd teach on TV like way ahead of his time. So a lot of his stuff was like slogans and things

because he was really good at like selling people on the idea of working out. One of my favorite ones that he said was people don't die of old age. They die of inactivity. Yep. So good. I love that one. That's a great quote.

Yes, I love that one. So good. He said a lot of things like this one's famous. Exercise is king. Nutrition is queen. Put them together. And you've got a kingdom. I mean, better to wear out than rust out.

I mean, these are great slogans. I think that communicate the message so effectively. Yeah. Yeah. That was from, uh, do you need to have one about eating too? Was it him that you read? I thought you read one yesterday about like the like food choices or eating like that. I thought was really good too. Um, let's see. Your health account is like your bank account, the more you put in the more you can take out. Is that? Oh, oh, if it tastes good, spit it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's the one there. So he understood the potential challenges of palatability. Yes.

Like if it's so engineered to be palatable, how much your body will be hijacked. If man makes it, don't eat it. That was the other one that he said. Yeah, yeah. How cool is that? Isn't that great? Speaking of old stuff, I gotta ask you this, Doug.

I looked, I haven't even liked that. Great segue. My bad. How was Moses as a child? So, have you ever heard of the reason why I'm asking this is Japanese? Now, you know a lot about Japanese culture. It's called Nuremiatsu Odachi. I think I'm pronouncing it right. Never heard of that? Just in you would like this actually. Right. So I was never for me. Well, I mean, I don't think you'll find it.

You don't care about the stuff. You might think it's cool. You might as much of a nerd. So this is a 15th century Japanese sword. All right, no big deal. Like what's the big deal about it? Well, first off, swords made back then were used in battle. Yeah.

Okay, so consider that. It wasn't like they made them. Kill people. They used them in battle. So this is 15th century. So this is a long time ago. It was over 12 feet long. And it weighed almost 32 pounds. What? And they don't, the controversy or like the mystery around it is who the hell was wielding? Who's swinging that bad boy? Who was wielding the sword?

So they're like, what is it? A giant? Was it like the super strong? Yeah, see? It's giant. It's a giant samurai, dude. I'm not key. How, 12 feet long?

You know how big that is? Yeah, that's told in the ceiling, bro. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, it's the Nephilim cell. The Nephilim. Yeah, dude. How crazy is that? Well, it doesn't make sense about that is like,

if it's a 12 foot sword, imagine how tall the person has to be, to even wield it. It has to be like, I mean, yeah, was that, and do they know for sure it was used? Cause like, or is it just like, one of those things where you're like, oh, they know it was when I built, they can prove it was used. You didn't make swords back then to not get used. Look at this, I mean, that might be the proof

that they did make swords, not to be. I mean, maybe they had just some competition. Yeah, why would they make one so so big? I mean, asking that question is like asking a question. I don't know. So Odachi, the Odachi's were long swords, but they would reach like five feet, six feet, and those were used in battle all the time.

Oh, wow. But this one is, you know, I would like to think it was a giant, but like more than likely, it was probably for like a display, you know, piece or something. Only reason, because that same argument was used a lot for like some of those cave painting drawings or like a, let's say you go into Egyptian culture

and you see like one with a scarab face and like they only they only drew what they saw. It's like really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have no imagination. Like that's their entire argument. Well, so the the counter. It's so funny, right?

But with the counter like argument is that maybe it was made like as a flag like they used it as a way to like this is our Army right like this is our main piece. Okay, that's kind of cool. I mean, I tried and you have the huge twelfth So that you see yeah, but isn't that crazy? Like one guy carry like those guys were like somebody some Swordsmith hammered out that it's all one one blade It's not one sharp and nearly it's I don't legit or like a big old blunt blade and you dug would be interested in yeah Very interested that is bad. That is so cool, right? You have sword envy I don't know where I put a sword like that. Yeah, that's a long story I got this tiny one behind me. Hey, listen, they killed people just as good.

It's not the size, Doug. Yeah, it's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it.

It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. It's not about how to use it. but I've been experimenting with something for sleep that I see people write about post about. And I finally tried it. My cousin's wife introduced me to it. There's no sponsor, no connection,

but I just want to talk about it because I've been using it. She, we all went up to Truckee together to hang out and we're all ready to go to bed. And she's like, how have you tried mouth tape? I'm like, I thought she was joking. I'm just shut up.

Yeah. You were just like having some like story. Yeah. If you ever tried malt tape, am I doing that again? No, no, no, she's like, you wear it, you know, on your lips, when you go to sleep, and she's like, so she has an aura ring that measures the quality of your sleep. Yeah. Significant improvement from wearing the mouth tape. Yeah.

She was showing me the notes. Yeah. So I started wearing it. And yeah, dude, I don't measure anything with an aura, but I can tell. It makes a big difference. So I want you to pair it with the nasal. I just ordered something.

So I actually have been doing that long before Alex Ramose was part of why I don't even talk about it because he's made it like such a thing to do. He wears it on interviews and stuff. I have no idea. I have no idea. I mean, you know what I mean, he's my one where I black.

Well, knowing his marketing genius is, it's, you know, people to I mean, you know what I mean, I've knowing, he's more aware I black. Well, knowing his marketing genius is, it's, you know, people to be memorable, you know, so it's like, you know, with the nose there. Exactly. Like, that was, is something that you can't help, but so I would not be surprised if there is a method to his madness because of, but for sure, I wear that ever almost every night.

And if I don't wear it every night, it's because I forgot to put it on because if I don't, if I have any sort of congestion in my nose, I'll mouth breathe and sleep and then I snore, right? Where is you combining it with the tape? Well, that's why I'm telling you to for sure do it. I can notice that I won't mouth breathe. I'll breathe through the nose if it just opens this up.

So I'm wondering if you notice just from that, you won't have to tape your mouth shut and you might actually get the same I'll freeze down where you the first time though. I put it on. Yeah, like when you're sleeping and you're You know, wow, I don't know. That might give me a little anxiety Maybe but you know what? You know what else is the benefit right? Let's say you know, you know, those like Midnight bumps you know, I've been thinking I'm not gonna go the ghost route I've been thinking, I'm like, you're gonna go to the ghost route.

I get the belt, they both are, we gotta sleep. Katrina actually, she's, so she's gonna be mad, I brought this up when she hates when I put that, that no-s thing on because she thinks that that means we're not having sex for sure. It's like, why bro, you're performing something? That's your version of the sweat band.

I told you, I don't know why you think that, maybe because you're not attracted to it, so you don't feel like you're like, you know, it ain't stopping me But she's I better endure this you know what it is is cuz she thinks that I'm so focused on getting a good night sleep I'm not thinking about that. I'm saying so if I'm thinking about that I'm not thinking about all the other stuff to get optimized sleep. I'm thinking about that. I know So I think she's just like oh, so we're not having sex tonight I can put my nose guard on and still go to work.

You know what I'm saying? Like, calm down. She's a lot of looking. Yeah. So I think it is. I think she's like, I just don't look attractive with it. It's not very cool. You know, she should get you back, put it on too.

What you guys have said? Yeah, it's the one. I don't give a shit. Yeah. You go put my headband on too. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah.

Stop of me. Is there a sign that you know, like, oh, my wife can have, once have sex with me, is there something that she does that? Oh, 100%. Yeah. I can tell by what kicks up things on the ground a lot. What, what would you say she would do

on the ground? There's some things on the ground. It's like excessive, you know. That was good. Oops, she's like clearing the space. No, I'm just gonna do it over here. Oh, it's like, we should like clearing the room out, so it's like, we space. No, I'm just gonna do it over here. I was like, we should like clearing the room out,

so it's like we need all of a sudden, everything on the ground matters. Yeah. I'm just like, huh? I just stopped dead in the tracks at a time. No, no, no, no. I could tell by a shower time and outfit. I mean, that's it.

It's like, you know it's game time if she's like, yeah. She makes an effort to get up to the bedroom, get a shower, and then put like a little nightie or t-shirt cute thing on it. Jessica was confused the other night ago. Because she's like, oh, I gotta go take a shower. First of all, she's making time at night to take a shower.

Usually that means like, oh, cool, we're gonna, it's gonna happen, right? So she's like gonna go take a shower, and then I'm like, oh, I gotta take a shower too. She's like, oh, we could just shower together. What does that mean to you guys? Let me ask you this. If your wife says to you, let's go take a shower together.

What does that mean to you? It does not mean to you. You probably have some stunk. Maybe it does. Maybe we'll get around to watching each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She was like blown away, that's what I thought. I'm like, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, she was like, you know, she was like blown away. That's what I thought. I'm like, wait, you thought, you really just wanna take a shower? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We're just gonna wash it. Yeah, you know, like, hang out. You know, as it sucks, do you have all the water?

I'm not getting any water. Yeah, that's safe. Yeah, it's never like convenient. But how can you explain, like, how is that even possible? Like, you're naked, there's soap everywhere. Like, for sure. You know what I still, I'm gonna try. Yeah, it's gonna be nice. And all the house I live in, that is actually a box I haven't checked, and I soap everywhere. For sure. You know what I still am trying? Yeah, it's these things.

I live in, that is actually a box I haven't checked. And I've been in obviously showers like this, but I have not had been in a home where I lived in, where you have the tool head. The tool head. And a shower, like that's like a, if I'm building my custom home. We got one of those.

Oh, you have those? Yeah, it helps, and really honestly, the benefit of it is washing the dog. The dog. Oh, I didn't really use it for the sexual stuff. No, no, no, sorry. Yeah, it helps been and really honestly the benefit of it is washing the dog Use it Sorry, don't kill my dreams. It's not as good. I thought it'd be cool Weird Sorry, sorry to be back. That sucks. Hey, you know what else I'm at?

I gotta bring this up. You know what else that sucks. So, you know, I would say each of us has a unique talent or ability. Like it's hot and it's fucking hard, but. Yeah, it's really hot though. I gotta trap that PC. We should see my back.

Yeah, we're sweating really hard. Yeah, sorry. That, you know, each of us has, I would say, a unique talent. And, you know, I've us has, I would say, a unique talent. And, uh, you know, I've called Adam the deal maker because he's really good. So he handles our sponsorships and he makes deals, right? He makes deals and they tend to work out. But boy, what I fucking hate to be on the other end of that deal.

I listen to this guy on the phone or you see it. I was like, God, bro. I yard my wife, my wife's part. Or you see it as like, God, bro. You're a yard. My wife's, one of the few compliments she gives me is that, you know, I have this ability to be a likable asshole, that's what she says. Like, so that is accurate. Like, she's like, you know, and you guys obviously,

you guys have an intimate knowledge of what my uncle's like, right, so he would just be an asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? He's just like a whithful heart. So, just like a whithful heart. So, we have that, so we both have that side to us, but Katrina's like, and I, it never fails.

Like I hear the way you say something to somebody, and I'm like, oh my God, like they're gonna hate his guts. And then she's like, I talked to him after, and they love you. It's like, I don't understand after I was, and they love you. It's like, I don't understand. It doesn't make sense. Because you're so honest.

That's one of the most honest, like, up front, like, here's the deal. And it's like, you can't really, what are you gonna say to that? That's how I, that's how I feel, Justin. I feel like really what it is is really, I remember the first time I heard someone say the term radical honesty,

and it really resonated with that. And I, it wouldn't have been, hadn't something I'd heard before. And I really feel like that is, and it's really actually difficult. Like everyone says they're honest. Sure. But like they're honest to a point. You're honest to like a, like,

when it's convenient. Yeah, when it's convenient or when it's not hard, right? When it's hard to be honest, we tend to, you know, kind of pussy foot around what you really want to say or the full truth because you don't want to hurt their feelings or you're intimidated to say what you want to say. And I've just learned in my life that the more I practice that radical honesty, the more it's served me and the more comfortable I've become with being that because most good

people, there's always assholes and people that reject it or are uncomfortable. Well, you're not going to like a liar. That's the bottom line. That's right. Someone's fake. But I don't think that's what makes you likeable. I think that's what gives you respect.

I think honesty is what makes people respect you. You're likable and I don't understand. I can't explain exactly what that formula looks like. We could list bunch of things that make someone likeable, but there's just something about you, that's likeable. People respect you because you're honest. I don't think that's what makes you likeable. I think if you- Maybe they don't have the other side.

If you didn't have the other qualities, they would just respect you, but they like fuck that guy. You know, he's an asshole, but yeah, you are. That's actually very accurate description. Yeah, I like a plasso. I'm saying that you're a plasso. description. Definitely. I like a plasso. Yeah, it's an interesting compliment. A plasso.

I mean, I think there's also a guy's get to see, you know, or in some of these people do too, is that as much as I can be that side, which, you know, gives the shock and awe sometimes, then I have another side to me that I think, I like to think I'm pretty sensitive. No, you're not, you're a big guy. No, no. You're not. You're carrying and I think about other people. Yeah.

And here's nothing too. Like one of the secrets to our success with our partners and our relationship is like, I take those relationships very seriously and I think about those people and I do my best to let them know that I care and what to and to do things and go above and beyond. Look, bottom line is, and this is saying this is easy, doing it's hard, right? But the bottom line is you, you know what to ask for and you know what you can deliver period. So a lot of people don't know that.

And if they do, they're afraid to, they're afraid to ask for this much for a raise or because they're not confident with what they're worth or they overs afraid to. They're afraid to ask for this much for a raise or because they're not confident with what they're worth or they overshoot it and then they don't deliver and then know what is going to. So you're very good at knowing exactly what we're worth, what we're going to deliver and then we do. And so that's the deal. That's the part of the deal maker that I think is so brilliant. Yeah, I think there's a lot. That's what makes it tough for the other side, because I don't think that people are used to dealing with that. I think people are used to be people,

like I'm worth this much, but I'll ask this one, because that's too much. I don't want to ask more. I also think that you get a lot of latitude with people when I'm one of my favorite quotes, right? Nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care. And if you lead with that first,

I like to think that I have that relationship with my staff. Like I like to think that I have built enough a relationship, say with Andrew, that if I came in and like really railed on him hard, they're really like, I feel like I've built enough credit with him of consistency of showing the other side of me that I can push those areas and be okay. And it's not out of character or it's out of character to see me go that hard. And so the same thing applies in business

when I'm negotiating deals like that. It's like, if I've shown all these things to show you that I care and that, we've built this relationship, and then also it comes down to negotiation and I'm stern and I'm direct and on this like that. Like I feel like, and even also it comes down to negotiation, and I'm stern, and I'm direct, and I'm this like that. Like I feel like, and even if I come sometimes come off a little harsh or hard, like some people might take it, I get a little bit more latitude because I've put that working

and I've earned that. And I don't think if I, I think if I hadn't done those things that I can't, because I can't, I know what I can do with what people I can do with, too. There's certain people I can't do that with. If I haven't built a relationship with it, like sometimes the conversation you guys hear, you guys hear that with somebody who I've built a good relationship with, so I can say some shit. That sounds kind of crazy, but it's because we've already formed them on the phone.

You can give beyond the surface kind of talking. My favorite part of it, listen to you negotiate with Mike Matthews. That is, because he's a contesist. He is a contesist. That's what I'm saying. Because he's as big of a contesist. Oh my God. And we know it.

And we know it. And we know it. He may not know I know it about him, but I know it 100% about it. We're talking. And we both have a, and you guys love it. That's the thing. You guys are both smiling, right?

Yeah, I think we both have a similar strategy the way we're like, we're like so nice to each other than when you let our other people be, bring the bad news to each other. And we play like, Oh, I didn't know. You know, right guy. Yeah, weird. Yeah. I'll take this a call. So take those. You brought up a kind of a cool thing. I wanted to kind of like, uh, bring something up that I saw that was pretty funny. And it's against this is a mean I believe in time travel or any things don't get crazy. Just thought it was kind of random and weird and you know worth looking at it and speculating upon. So there's

a sky and maybe you can find this dug it's it's I think they call them the time traveling hipster. And so there's actually like these old like 20, 1920s kind of pictures where this guy was like, I think he was at some kind of, not soapbox, gerbi or whatever they had for racing cars back then, but he was there and he was wearing like sunglasses and like futuristic looking outfit outfit totally stood out. Like someone who was like,

somebody just like planted this hipster looking dude in with all of these like depression era people. And there's another one too where this guy had like literally looks like a cell phone and he's like hanging out. I see that one. Wow. And it's literally in the depression era. And it makes you be like, wait a minute, is this Photoshopped or is this, so that would be my first thought, it's Photoshopped, but then if it's real,

it's a trip. I've seen that, it's not enough for you. So it would have fallen the category of art, what is this? No, no, no, these are photos. These are real photos. I've seen some of these. These are photos, but the person looks like they're dressed and they're wearing things.

Yeah, expand that one that has a red mark on it. Yeah, and it looks like they're from today. You're things. Yeah, expand that one has a red mark on it. Yeah, and it looks like they're from today. You're like, wait a minute, nobody dressed like that. Nobody, I've seen, I saw the one with the cell phone and it does look like a phone. Yeah, which is kind of weird. Let's see. Well, you can't see anything on that. I mean, I have it on my phone.

I can show you. Yeah, let's see. Right here, this is what I hear. Yeah, what? Yeah, that looks like an RVCA shirt and like, yeah, look at his sunglasses. Nobody's wearing sunglasses for, first of all. In his haircut, like, what was he doing with that haircut? He does look like a weird, that's weird.

Well, doesn't that even almost look like an RVCA shirt? Yeah, it looks like somebody, it looks like somebody Photoshopped in themselves into an old style. It does, it looks like something. Yeah, pretty sure that's what happened. Do you think so? I think so.

I think so. What about the cell phone one? That one. I wanted to be real. Yeah, the cell phone. Oh, I do too. That's so interesting. Where did you find this?

I don't know. I'm going to hand across them. Him and I. Him and I have. We have the same algorithm. You guys do have the same algorithm. It's fun. I know. There's one.

Yeah. With a circle. Oh, this one here. algorithm. It's funny. It's fun. Why not? There's one. With the circle. This one here. Yeah, let me see. Click on that one. There's a few. That's not even the one I've seen. I don't even know.

Oh, wait. What are they doing there? Can you see that? That looks like he's holding the phone. That's a little bit. It's like he's holding a phone. But what would they be? What would they be holding up to their ear like that?

No idea. That's weird. Yeah. But I mean, think about it this way too. Like, spies, right? They've always had like access to stuff that nobody else did. You think it was like tech golf. Oh, that one looks like, see that one,

and I go up the 1917 guy in like, like, old mining picture. And then looking, he's wearing like a, he looks like a hipster with, look at his hair. Oh, yeah, yeah. Cause even still like, yeah, that's my thought processes. What if you're just a weird dude back then? Oh, fucking John. I mean, that's actually, if it's a true photo,

it's probably most likely it is just somebody. It's not like we don't see people nowadays that they're dressed out of their time zone. Yeah, I see. I see. They're all over the place now. Yeah, yeah, that's weird. Good stuff.

Oh, there's a cell phone one. Like, like, like, looks like he's taking a picture with a cell phone. Yeah. That guy right there. Yeah. Yeah. What's he doing? Oh, right there.

The guy, yeah, it looks like a freaking iPhone. Yeah, this is a good iPhone. It scrolled down. There's a bigger, better picture. Oh, and there's one right there that they circled. What are they looking at there? He looks like he's taking a picture of his crotch with that. Yeah.

Well, first dick pic. And there's another one. Yeah. Looks like he's taking a picture of his crutch. Yeah, well, first dick pick. And there's another one. Yeah, looks like they're holding a cell phone. I'm telling you guys. I think there's a regular cameras. These are the box camera. Oh, is it? Doug's not closed.

I'm not closed, sorry. I hate to rain on your parade. Yeah, damn it. I thought it was cool. Damn it, we thought we almost proved time traveling right there. Yeah, so it existed so close. What's the, do we have a page we'd like to shout out today?

Did we not, did you talk about the, Organifies new product? I hate not. Oh, we almost forgot. Oh my God, I used to believe I almost forgot. I need to talk about this. I don't even know if they're gonna be selling. You're the most hyped.

So I don't know if they're gonna be selling this by the time this comes out, but I gotta talk about it. Or they are, they are selling it now. They are. I'm from the past telling you in the food. Wow. Wow. Ducks been in it since the 19 okay. So I got this package because they send us their new

stuff and I was I haven't been this excited about a partner's product a long time. So Shilajit is a aeravetic compound that's been used for a long time. And it's, okay, so let me explain what it is, right? So the, it's found in the Himalayas, it's like a black, oozy substance. And really what it is, it's the product of these ancient forests being compressed in the mountains and decayed over time. And that's what produces this, what's called shilajit.

Sounds like what the hell is that? What was that gonna do? Anyway, they've been using it for a long time in aeravetic medicine. Here's why I get excited about it. Chaligeet has a lot of studies, a lot of real studies supporting its benefits. So this is all like an adapted gin, what does it use for?

Yes, it is like an adapted gin, but I'm gonna read to you. It's like the topsoil stuff where it's like you know We're missing all these nutrients because of what gets strapped out of You know the soil. So there's a few things that they're in there that we know have benefits like full of the acid Yeah, any oxidants, but it's one of those things where we're like we're not quite sure right so by the way This is a fight they've been using this for 5,000 years in medicine. Okay, so that's a long time right? so They've been using this for 5,000 years in medicine. Okay, so that's a long time, right? So it's a tar-like substance found in the Himalayan in Tibet mountains.

So as the lush forests were compacted as mountains arose, shilajit was formed. And when the temperatures rise around these Indian mountains, the tar-like medical miracle substance, what they refer to it, comes from the crevices within the mountains. I don't know who the first person decided to eat this was.

Let me try this black oozy stuff. We have rock climbers. This is one of the oldest forms of medicine, right? Sanskrit texts that date over 3,000 years ago. Talk about using it. Okay, so explain what it's most, oh, Alzheimer's? Oh, I'm going to bring them up. So testosterone?

Oh, yeah. Listen, listen, so for thousands of years, it was used as an aphrodisiac. For thousands of years, it was like, give this demand to help fertility. Okay, well, here's what some of the studies show. First off, studies show that it provides energy and revitalization. So studies show that people take it. They get more ATP production. They actually show this, producing more ATP in the mitochondria. It promotes brain health again. This was shown in studies. This is not just now what the eryvedic practitioner say. Regulates hormones in immune system. It raises testosterone and men with low testosterone. In females, it helps with ovulation. So it's fertility for both.

It reduces pain, it lowers blood sugar, it prevents cancer, it fights inflammation. There's some studies. So there was a study that showed that the supplement improved the function and regeneration of skeletal muscle. So we can- Aging, heart health, iron deficiency, anemia. So this is one of the few, like, you know, out there thing- I altitude sickness.

But, you know, listen, there's a couple old episodes where I brought the stuff. Because- Did you? Yes, I've brought this up before, because I've taken it before and I can tell. I can tell when I take it. So when I saw,

I'll identify, and I love to organize, because they get the best quality, period industry. They get a form of So when I saw, I love organified because they get the best quality, period into story. They get a form of chalaget called prima v, which is the very pure form, and it's in gummies. So they're like, really tasty little gummies. And it actually tastes good, but they do taste good. So two of them is a dose, we crushed that whole bag. You'll notice a difference.

Okay, so I can't write, and I'm probably the least or the most skeptical of all of us, and I've been taking this since we ate the whole bag, right, so almost every day for the last couple of weeks. And I can't describe yet what it is, but I do feel good. Yeah, but I can't describe it yet. I haven't figured it out yet.

Take it consistently, and you'll notice kind of like Ashwagandha bit different. So it's you'll notice better recovery, better energy, less soreness. And again, like I said in studies, they've shown testosterone levels getting affected. Sp, you're just there. Cool. Anyway, yeah, so I'm glad you, thank you so much for reminding me, I'm really excited about this. I think this, this is one of the best providers of Chalijit that I know of now that,

Organifi has it, so. Yeah, I know, I'm sure it's a good deal. I'm pumped for this, yeah, they do. All right, so now shout out. All right, Justin, you got a book you've been reading? Yeah, so know I'm sure it's a work on Puppet's Hell, they do. All right, so now shout out. All right, Justin, you got a book you've been reading? Yeah, so this was actually recommended by somebody in my DMs and they were like, this totally has you written all over it.

Dungeon Crawler Carole. I believe. And it's like, it's so... Like the premise of it is so ridiculous. And it's gonna be a wild ride. I'll have to let you guys know how it ends up, but it's like, it's sci-fi, it's funny, it's like he's kind of the center of this universal

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I think the biggest misconception around this is thinking that it's like something directly related to the back and more often than not, it's more like hip and ab stuff related. Correct. 100%. And that was, I mean, I remember even being a trainer and dealing with low back pain and thinking that, oh man, just, you know, genetically our families all have bad backs, have a bad back or whatever and not realizing how much of that had to do with weak hips and a weak core that was really contributing

to the low back pain. The most common areas of tension in the back for people who work at desk jobs are low back and then that upper kind of neck area or back area where you start to get tension in the back of the head or the neck. And yes, it's because you're sitting in a position for a long period of time.

And what happens is, you know, the muscles of the body have to work together. And when happens is, you know, the muscle, the body have to work together. And when some muscles are too weak, what ends up happening is your body just has other muscles do more work to compensate. And in this case, if your core is weak, because it's not really being activated, well, you have hip flexors like the so as muscle that attaches at the low spine, that's going to be pulling a little more. It's going to cause low back pain. You may have some weakness in the hips, like Adam was saying, that's going to cause some low back issues.

You may have weakness in the mid-back, so your upper back muscles, the levitator scapulae or trapezius muscles are going to be tighter to try to stabilize the shoulders. So what you want to do is you wanna strengthen those muscles that are weak. So strengthening your core is important. Working on hip mobility and strength is very important. And mid back exercise report, but I will say this, I'm gonna back up

because those are all, now it's important to do strength training regardless. Okay. But I think if we look at the root issue, the root issue is that you're sitting all day. And so it's actually, and I've had a lot of clients with success with having standing desks, where rather than sitting all day,

they'd stand while they do their work. Or they sit on something that requires a little bit more, or they get up and more frequently. Yeah, exactly. Now, I'm not saying don't strengthen, like just do that, but rather than having to try to always constantly band aid or compensate or work on areas that need strengthening because you're doing something all the time, you change what you do a little bit like stability ball for a chair tends to help this problem and so does standing. And like I said, those two things I've had people work on made a big difference.

And who is one of us, was you, I don't know, try to create a chair at one point. Yeah, for that very thing, right? Yeah, keep, keep, it, we had the shaft in the, the chair had a 15 degree play in all directions. So you could never sit in slouch or also it would tip over. So it kind of forced you and then the seat was actually at like a 30 degree angle. So you weren't exactly at a 90 degree angle or I don't know what that is, a 45 degree angle. That actually like Dr. Atomas had added like a wedge to a lot of students. Chairs for that specific reason too is like, you know, not having that 90 degree fixed and having it like at least a bit more lengthened Tended to yeah avoid a lot of those pain. Do you know that they have

Chairs and it's funny because I thought I thought what we would think is trainers like oh, that's good for some core activation But they have chairs for kids with ADD in classrooms where the bottom of them, they almost like, every now and then. No, it's just because you can't annoy you. They have the bottom of it looks like a half circle. So it kind of rolls around. And so the kids will sit

and because they need that kind of stimuli. But I'm like, I would be a good office chair in an inexpensive way to get some of that. They made ones too that like there were a stability ball fits in them now. I mean, I was all into that when we first were trying to do it. We just had horrible timing when we created it right after the big crash and then going to big companies like

Deloitte and Tushin trying to convince them to replace their 500 office chairs with one that was five times more expensive than the one that they already currently had. They're like, yeah, that's cool. We'll pass. So I'm going to give some specific exercises. So I like, I like planks, but planks done a specific way. I actually did a video. Yeah, active planks or planks with the tailbone tuck to activate the core. And we did videos on the Swallow Go. So we'll link those in the show notes. And then Rose, cable Rose machine rows are good

because they're easier for people with weak midbacks to activate versus a barbell row, which you gotta have a little bit more controls and strength to do. And really focusing on pulling the shoulder blades back and down. Those two movements generally are pretty good prescriptions for people who are here.

I had some generic advice along those lines. I was gonna go the active plank route. So I love that. I love row, which I was gonna say also. And then good goals, good at the deadlift, get great at the 90-90s, and work towards having a good deep squat. I think those would be really good goals

for somebody who struggles with that. I can't stress enough, this was something that I was riddled with low back pain, chronic back pain. And even my career as a trainer, and it wasn't until I got really good at my 90-90s to where I had an ankle mobility, to where I could get into a really good deep squat, and just getting good and getting connected to that internal rotation with the 90 90s on my hips and then also doing a deep squat, kind of strengthens all of that, right? So once you get to a place where you can do a good deep squat, now I find I don't have to do any of those movements anymore. I don't have to do any of that stuff.

All I have to do is squat deep once a week. And that strengthens that entire complex, hip complex. So well, that I've completely eliminated any low back pain I used to have. Next question is from RSG conference. My wife and I are expecting our first child in seven months. How should I train and eat now to set me up for a successful first year of being a father? There's a lot of things that will make you a successful father, but I think they're obviously talking about in regards to their physical fitness and health Muscle is extremely protective Okay, it's very protective when you're sedentary. It's very protective

When you lose sleep. It's very protective when you're under a lot of stress. Okay. All those things that I just mentioned are hard stresses in the body damaging and, you know, you can experience those being a new father. And having more muscle on your body is just going to mitigate, it's not going to completely protect you, but it's going to mitigate a lot of the damage from lack of sleep and more stress and maybe diet and not being ideal. So what you wanna do is you wanna go into it, feeling strong and having a good amount of muscle.

This doesn't mean go into it over-trained. I think some people take that advice. Right, oh yeah. They think it's super hard and intense. Yeah, I gotta train for a competition right before I have my kid. Do not red line before you have a kid because you're going to screw yourself. You also want to go into that, especially this first three months, feeling healthy while rested and recovered because it's going to, it's going to hammer it.

So, so those are the two things I would say. Build muscle, be strong, and make sure you go into it, feeling rested and recovered. And then that should help mitigate a lot of the damage. I mean, I think that's, I would have been consistency. Maps and a ball like build as much muscle, speeding that metabolism up. So increasing calories over time, right? And, and build as much muscle through that program as I could. And then I would transition to like a Maps 15 when the kid comes.

Oh, yeah. I just think that program complements mom and dad life so well. It's your most flexible option that you're going to have. And if you did a really good job of taking sales advice and building as much muscle and strength going in, you'd be amazed how little you have to do to maintain that. And you'll be able to build all that muscle from running anabolic and then you go into, you know, dad life and just running mass 15,

you'd be surprised how much of all of that you still keep by just stimulating the muscle with two big lifts every day, you know? Yeah, really, you just got to look at it. Whatever you're putting in right now, consistency wise and like focused all of your attention towards building muscle, that's what's going to carry you into this. And so that's, it's, it's, it's, muscle preservation mode, once we get to that place and MAP 15 is going to help to kind of at least keep that muscle signal alive and stimulated.

Yeah. I mean, in extreme case, I mean, I have studies on people who are hospitalized with illness or injury or like bed ridden and muscle is very strongly coordinated, excuse me, correlated to successful outcomes because you're going to lose muscle and strength when you're bed ridden. That's an extreme case, right? You're having a kid, you're not going to be in the hospital, but just to get used as an example, it's so protective. Like one of the best things you could do going into a challenging stressful position or situation is to have a buffer of muscle. But also, I have to stress this because what a lot of people will do when they hear that is, I got a red line

up until the day the baby's born. No. No. You also want to be recovered and rested. So do this well within the range of what's appropriate for your body. Don't push yourself to the limit because then you're going to go, you're not maximizing your build if you do that. Yeah. And that also, right?

But then you're going to tip over into your body can't handle it when the baby comes. So if you just do those two things, you'll minimize the potential damage. And then the bounce back will be real, real, will be made real easy by doing that as well. Next question is from Jonathan Sash. What does it mean if I never feel hungry? I can go all day without eating and never feel hunger,

even though I can tell I need to eat because my energy is low. This is an interesting one because did you ever feel this way as like a young kid like when you were trying to build and stuff like that. Like you didn't have much of an appetite or did you always have like a big appetite? I didn't have a big appetite, but I never had a no appetite. I pushed my food intake because I was, you know, going crazy with trying to get away. I mean, I kind of struggled with this a bit.

Once I started cutting out breakfast and was like, deliberate about, when I started the whole fasting thing, and for me, it was like, it was started to become too easy for me not to eat breakfast over like a year or so. And then it was like, I just wasn't really interested in eating very often. I had to like start eating again and kind of, you know, get back in the rhythm of it to build an appetite again. So I agree. I've definitely been here before. And I think it's really interesting how the body adapts, right? It's like, you know, you may not remember what that maybe you've been this way your whole life. And so you've never gone the other direction, but like or like just in this case where you've you've transitioned into like,

you know, meal skipping or what about that, and then also in the body adapts, and then it's not a big deal anymore. I had to train myself to get an appetite to build and grow. Like I naturally could go all day and maybe eat once. Like I could, I just, it was, and I still have that, like if I were to like incorporate intermittent fasting on a regular basis, I could easily go there, easily go there.

In fact, there's periods that we've had this podcast where I've gone we're just two meals a day and I'm totally fine. I can go on stretches like that, but it's really hard to build muscle like that. You just can't get enough calories and protein to do that. Sure, it's okay for weight management, but I don't I care about optimizing my health and building muscle. Yeah, I would need more information because lack of appetite or low appetite, it can become an issue in certain circumstances, but otherwise it's not like what you're talking about

Adam is in a problem except for you had goals to pack on muscle. Right. In other words, it wasn't like you had a health issue. So low appetite, that's related to poor health or that becomes a problem. Well, that's usually based on some, something psychological, something, you know, some kind of mental distress or stress or dysfunction or poor health, hormonal health, or gut health. But if this is coming from someone who's like, hey, my appetite isn't high enough for me to pack on muscle, well, then the strategy's completely different. So if it's due to dysfunction,

well, we gotta look at why you're opposed to eating. What is it about food that you're connecting? That could be underlying too, like the mentioned gut health. That's something like any really put those dots together. And so that could be something to investigate in terms of like there may be some intolerances, something there to address in terms of your gut health.

Oh yeah, my gut health's off, my appetite's gone. Cause I think my body knows, like you're gonna feel terrible. So if, my gut health's off, my appetite's gone. Cause I think my body knows, like, you're gonna feel terrible. So if this, if you're a normal healthy person, okay, and you're like, I think I should be eating more. I just don't feel like I eat enough. Then strength training is one of the best ways to stimulate a nice appetite, right?

If your body wants to build muscle, you tend to have, your appetite tends to go up a little bit and you'll see is one antibiotic. I always say, care people say they really increase their appetite. Appetite libido. Yeah. They'll, they'll, they'll mention if your appetite is low and it's affecting your health and your doctor and people like you need to eat more, then I would

look at your, I would look at hormonal health, gut health, something underlying. But otherwise, if you just want to gain muscle and it's hard for you to eat more, there are strategies. There are strategies to help yourself eat more. This is where I would tell someone to seek out more palatable food. This is where I would tell people to eat carbohydrates in the morning. It would tend to stimulate appetite a little bit later in the day.

This is where I tell people avoid foods that cause digestive issues for sure, because if you're trying to gain weight and you're eating large meals and the food is causing some bloat, it's gonna be really hard for you to eat later on. So easily digestible food makes a big difference here, but I do need a little bit more information

to help. Yeah, we're giving as best, I think, generic general information. I mean, for I read the question and I saw a couple of people underneath that also shouted at this, it didn't sound like, it sounded like they have trouble eating more.

To gain. Yeah, here's another, there's another thing that happens here too. This also happened to me, where I could go all day and I eat. And then for dinner, I had McDonald's with two big maps. Too much. Yeah, and then I eat this super heavy saturated fat meal.

And then I'm good for another eight to 12 hours. I don't want to eat again. So one of the things that actually helped stimulate my appetite was actually eating clean. Was starting the day off with like a bowl of oatmeal with some way of protein and blueberries or strawberries inside of it. And then I'd be hungry again.

And then I'd eat another meal which would be like chicken thighs and rice. And I actually found that these foods, which also might have been playing into your point about the gut. It's like what I may not know what I was doing was one, gotten used to only eating once a day. Then I slammed my gut with this junk food

that was garbage. I feel like crap. My body is just like, oh, I'm trying to figure out how to process and digest it, and so it's working all day and night to process all that, so it keeps me from being hungry again. And actually just by eating clean foods, I wanted to eat more, but I had to train that first,

and I had to start with lighter stuff, like an oatmeal or a yogurt type of first meal, because I was trained for so long not to eat and then that started to stimulate the appetite and then I wouldn't make the mistake of going and having like because I did go through this phase two where oh I had this big you know quiz nose or togos sandwich and chips with you know a coke to wash it down and then again that same feeling I would have I'd be full till dinner time And so eating good balanced whole foods helped stimulate my appetite and made me want more. Easily digestible.

Yes. That's a big one. That same thing here. I did the same thing. I would eat garbage trying to pack in the calories and then I couldn't eat for four hours because I just felt like crap until I started eating foods I could digest really well. I want to know there was no problem.

Then an hour or two later, I was like, I could eat again. You know, another strategy, by the way, if this is, especially people with really fast metabolism who have challenge getting enough calories, I had so much success with my young male clients. At one point I had a few young male clients, they were all athletes, you know, football players,

they wanted to put on muscle. And it was such an easy way for them to gain weight. It was so funny. It was like, have a big glass of milk with each meal. It's all I told them to do. And it was like five extra, 500 extra calories. And it was for they didn't have any issues with dairy. It was protein, a little bit of carbohydrates and fats.

And it was an easy way to add calories. Next question is from CMOS 23 for each of you. What five things do you wish they taught in school? Oh, I'll tell you the number one thing. I'll tell you the number one thing that I think they need to teach in school is they need to teach kids about money. Yes, finance was first.

Finance, credit cards, loans, like investing, living below your means. I just don't understand, this is such a big deal that you don't, like they teach you that you have to learn this on your own after you get out of call. It's such a big deal that. I teach you how to get in debt and that's about it. They don't teach anything, they just tell you to get in debt.

It's crazy to me. I think millionaire next door should be a read, something that every kid in high school should have to read. I just think that should be a mandatory read. Unfortunately by the time I found that was a good recommendation from Mike Matthews after I had had gone through all the bad behaviors around money and then finally pieced together all that stuff.

Because it's just, and it's a lot of the stuff in there is like, wow, I would never guess that. I would never guess the type of car most millionaires drive and how, when the most things they have in common or like how how below their means they live and the five most uh so the the five uh most common jobs of millionaires I would have never guessed that either like there's things that you assume that if there's soons of millionaires because they make lots of money and that's actually not true at all. It has more to do with their relationship with money that has allowed them to stack it and invest it

and be smart with it. And so I agree money. Self-awareness would be another thing. So teaching kids about emotional intelligence and self-awareness and social awareness, which has especially today with just like the communication working with others. Also, the self-awareness tool of understanding

how to reflect on yourself and be constantly pursuing growth. Like I just think that is a skill that is underdeveloped in most people. It's not talked about and highlighted in schools. So that would be something I would teach alongside with money. Let me give you an example of the money one. This is why I think it's such a big deal. Okay. If you had a 500,000 dollar loan, which would be like a house, right? At 3% interest, which we had that not that long ago,

your monthly interest, in other words, the money that you're going to interest, not going to your house, it's literally going to the bank, is $700 a month. You go up to 5%, you think, what's the big difference? 5%, you're now paying almost $1,300. In interest, that's the difference with those two things. Do that over the course of the loan

and you're talking about a significant amount of money that's gone and most people have no idea. With that looks like where I know kids will graduate college with credit card debt, will pay a minimum payment. I've done this before, I'll show like young cousins of mine. I'll be like do you realize you've spent to pay that down that $7,000 loan that you're paying interest? You've already spent $25,000, and they look at me like,

or you paid three times what it's actually worth because you got a loan on that one. Yeah, that was a big one. I like what you said about self-awareness, I don't know what that would call that philosophy. These to do that, right? These to be a class that was required. Yeah, I don't know, I can,

you could probably underline under emotional intelligence, right? Because under emotional intelligence, you would categorize self-awareness, social awareness, I don't know. I could probably under a professional intelligence, right? Because under emotional intelligence, you would categorize self-awareness, social awareness, I think those are. I think, yeah, entrepreneurship in terms of like teaching somebody to run and operate a small business, it would be massively valuable. And two, we give perspective on in terms of all these policies that are being

thrown out there that really like cause friction and and people have no idea how that affects like the entire ecosystem within like their local communities and and everything else. It would just I think that like most people I tend to argue with like have no idea like what it what it involves in terms of like being able sell and pitch a product, but also too, to be able to organize staff. All of the inner workings of a business, I think, is so valuable to take into any kind of profession.

It's funny is that back in the day, there were certain classes that required that they eventually took off, but they took out as being requirements. But I think that there was a lot of wisdom in what they were telling kids to do because now we know the value. I'll give you one simple example, music. Music was required for a while in a lot of schools. You go back 30, 40 years, everybody took some music.

And then they took it out because it's not science, it's not technology. It's not math Music we now know the data now shows contributes to your ability to learn all those other topics science technology learn better It helps you learn better the brain is wired To remember through music the fact that we take that out is incredible. Yeah, it's terrible I think they should put that back in I also think PE or fitness right we start taking that out start taking that out is incredible. It's terrible. I think they should put that back in. I also think PE or fitness, right? We start taking that out, start taking that out. Why? Because, oh, they can do that on their own. We need to focus on, again, science, technology, math. We know that fit healthy

bodies, learn better or less depressed, less anxious, and just overall people can innovate better, you're going to have better citizens. That was wisdom. Put that back in. Make that something where it's required learning where the kids go out, especially nowadays where they don't, they're not, if they're not playing a structured sport, they're not playing. They're not doing anything. Put that in there. I think that's another one. I also think that more effort towards economics, I think that the economics class that I took was like half the year with the coupled with my history and it was very It's all theoretical very biased the way they they taught it like I think really getting kids to understand really how the world works

Find money-wise financially and like I think we would look at I love Peter ship's book. It's called. Yeah, that's right, why economy grows and why it crashes, I believe, something is close to that. I think that he teaches it in such a layman's way that a kid could understand like that. And I think understanding fundamentally how our economy got to where it's at really makes you look at some of these things that we try and pass today is like ridiculous and silly and things that we think are helping others, but yet in the grand scheme of things

are really potentially hurting all of us. And so if you don't have a good grasp or understanding of basic economics and how we built this country, I think that you can fall into this trap. I think, oh yeah, that's a good plan. We should give money to that person or help that person. Like, that's not what we're doing. You know what would be good too?

It would be some kind of mentorship where a class or a year or semester would be, we have all these local businesses that allow you to go work for them. They're not going to pay you, but you get a grade. Just because you learn a lot working for someone else. You learn a lot how to work with people, you learn how to produce, you learn responsibility and call for people.

You used to be able to do that. You used to be, you get a work permit. You get a work permit in college. You get a work permit at like 15. I did that. Work permit at 15 and then you get some credit to it. I forgot what credit I got to it. What class they got credit into, but I remember that I could do that.

And then maybe some basic, like, they used to call it home act. You learn how to, you know, like fix things and how to like cook things, you know, because you get these kids that move out, I know how to do things for themselves. They're worthless. Yeah, you know?

Yeah, I was gonna totally bring that up in turn, just the basic things to keep you, to not just survive, but like just basic things around the house that you could fix, you need to like, you know, rely on other people to do it. Not to say you have to do it, just so you gotta know how to do that kind of stuff. Like it is, so you're not worthless.

We keep going, we might write a whole new curriculum here. So, you know what the problem is? But everything that we're saying, you know what the problem is? All of this would go through the filter of, you know, public schools, meaning if I'm like, we need a health class to teach people how to be healthy and eat healthy and all that stuff. It's going to go through, you know, their special interests and all that stuff. Hey kids, here's what's healthy. We're going to follow some new law of that.

That's upside down and stupid. Oh, that's stupid. And here's debt. Here's what's good. Go get a huge student loan and learn, you know, this degree, that's not going to get you a job. Right. It's going to be because of the kind of terrible. Look, if you love the show, head over to mindpumpfree.com

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