Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2306: How to Activate Unresponsive Muscles, the Best Exercises to Do When Time is Limited, What to Do When Bulking Only Makes You Fat & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Email [e-mail] if you want to be considered to ask your question on the show. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Probiotics aren’t just for gut health. They help with your athletic performance and muscle gains! (2:35) Parasites aren’t as uncommon as you would think. (12:45) Nubby Justin. (14:47) Touching on the Kate Middleton conspiracy. (21:19) Missed opportunities with investments. (25:47) The origin story of Bank of America. (34:11) #DadLife updates with the guys. (35:42) Fun Facts with Justin: Sonoluminescence. (41:41) Be the example. (45:19) The immunomodulating effects of cannabinoids. (51:12) Would you rather? Poison oak or Tiger Balm. (52:24) Shout out to The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast Ep. 433 with @destiny. (56:45) #ListenerLive question #1 - I am having trouble connecting to one side of my body when working out due to CNS damage. Looking for advice. (58:41) #ListenerLive question #2 - Should I stay with core compound exercises if I still see progress, or switch for novelty? (1:11:30) #ListenerLive question #3 - Why did my bulk not give me the results I wanted when I felt like I did everything right? (1:20:45) #ListenerLive question #4 - How can I properly program other modalities of training without overtraining? (1:28:38) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code 25MINDPUMP at checkout for 25% off your first month’s supply of Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic** Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Code MINDPUMP at checkout for 15% off ** April Promotion: MAPS Anywhere | MAPS HIIT 50% off! ** Code APRIL50 at checkout ** Probiotics supplementation or probiotic-fortified products on sarcopenic indices in older adults: systematic review and meta-analysis from recent randomized controlled trials Impact of probiotics on muscle mass, muscle strength and lean mass: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials - PubMed Effects of heat-killed Lactiplantibacillus plantarum TWK10 on exercise performance, fatigue, and muscle growth in healthy male adults - PubMed Kate Middleton Conspiracy Theories Rage On As TikTok Debates If Her Cancer Video Is A.I. Generated American Conspiracy: The Octopus Murders - Netflix The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve The original name of the Bank of America was actually "Bank of Italy" founded by an Italian Immigrant in San Francisco. The bank's name was changed from Bank of Italy to Bank of America in 1930. hand2mind Numberblocks Friends One to Five Figures, Toy Figures Collectibles, Small Cartoon Figurines for Kids, Mini Action Figures, Character Figures, Play Figure Playsets, Imaginative Play Toys The mysteries of Sonoluminescence Flip the Script: Photographing Water Crystals — Masaru Emoto Streaming, Politics, & Philosophy | @destiny | EP 433 For a limited time only, Mind Pump listeners get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: Visit DrinkLMNT.com/MindPump MAPS Symmetry Mind Pump #1897: Why Phasing Your Workouts Is So Important & How To Properly Switch It Up The Breakdown Recovery Trap, Why You Aren’t Progressing – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #2280: Why Everyone Should Train Like An Athlete Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral) Instagram Jordan B. Peterson (@JordanBPeterson) Twitter Steven Kenneth Bonnell II (@destiny) Instagram Adeel Khan, MD (@dr.akhan) Instagram  

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It will get those shirts right out to you When it comes to muscle building supplements almost all of of them fall short, maybe creatine, right? That's been shown to build muscle. But here's an unlikely supplement that's been shown in several studies to improve strength and muscle mass. Probiotics, I'm not making this up. It's actually made an analysis showing that probiotics increased strength

and reduced sarcopenia in older adults. There's another study showing that young men who supplemented with probiotics had better grip strength gains. So it looks like probiotics are not just for gut health, they also help with your athletic performance and muscle. Grip strength? Grip strength, well that's a proxy for total body strength.

So it's an easy way to test strength as they'll take and use grip. But they compared them to a placebo and they had a significant improvement above and beyond placebo from a probiotic. Interesting. Right. Interesting. Right.

And they think that the speculation- What was the theory behind that? So the speculation has to do with the, there seems to be a two-way communication street between the body and the gut, The brain. which includes the brain, but also includes muscle. So when you exercise, when your muscles are fit and you're building muscle, then sends a signal to the gut. It sends a signal to the brain, but then also the gut does the same thing. And if the gut is healthy, it seems to prime the body for better adaptations

to stress, which includes strength training. Now, the cool thing was that the, like the study on young men, which includes strength training. Now the cool thing was that the study on young men, they weren't unhealthy. They were just regular guys that worked out, or they had them strength trained. One group placebo, one group took just a traditional probiotic, lactobacillus, and they saw better strength gains, which is kind of interesting. Probiotics, who would have thought? New study? I can look it up, but relatively new.

I hadn't come across it before. I would have thought it would have had to do more with nutrient absorption, reduced inflammation. I'm sure that plays a role as well. So more like stress adaptation. And because it's not, I guess, internally fighting all these other factors, like you sort of absolved some of that, it allocated more resources towards adapting better elsewhere.

It totally could be. I mean, it makes logical sense. What would be most interesting for me is to see, and I know that's like, these are probably random young men who work out type of study. Like be interesting to know like what their issues were, or if they even knew they had issues, right? Like did they just take randomly a hundred young men that work out or did they go, let's help a hundred men

that complain of digestive issues or like notice? No, that's, so that was what I thought too. I thought, okay, maybe it was, no, they took. Just random. Yeah, they took 30 healthy males, age 20 to 40. And they were assigned to either the control group or to a, what they call TWK10, which is, you know, the group that they gave the probiotic to.

And the, like again, the grip strength, the group that they gave the probiotic to and the like again the grip strength in the group that took the What they call heat killed probiotic. So it wasn't even live probiotic showed It was lacto plant to bacillus planterum. So common bacterial finding probiotics It helped improve their strength gains and then the other study was done on older adults. And this, this is a systemic review, a meta analysis. So this one took lots of study, lots of studies, and they found that it was correlated or connected to better muscle strength gains and overall muscle mass.

Which is kind of wild. It's especially interesting if they're all healthy and they don't have any reported types of problems with their gut and any, because I would assume that, yeah, it'd be obvious. And plus, I would assume the majority of people have unreported issues that they don't, they don't like, haven't tested for or are just ignorant about.

Well, I think that's, to me, that's one of the most glaring things about this study is that you have what they were quote unquote healthy males, but the truth is they all probably had some sort of underlining gut issue that's going on. Like, I mean, how often do you find that out for a family or a friend that's like trying to get to the bottom

of why they're not seeing results, and they're telling you, I do this, and I do that, and I do this, and it's like, oh, have you? I think it might be more like, they'll do a study, there was a study that showed that, one isometric contraction a week boosted strength by 20%, so everyone's like, oh, that's how you gotta do it. It's like, no, it's because people are so unhealthy and inactive that just one contraction.

Yeah, it makes a big difference. Yeah, like we were supposed to be, I don't know, supposed to be, but for most of human history, we were, we were in contact with a lot more of these beneficial bacteria, both from our mothers. That's where you get a lot of them, right? Through traditional vaginal birth, non-exposure to tons of antibiotics, which now, I mean, you know, cattle are fed antibiotics and

antibiotics are sprayed on our plants. Glyphosates in particular, which I kind of like antibiotics, in our environments are hyper clean, right? That's why they find, why they think they find that kids that grow up with animals or on farms are far less likely to develop auto immune issues.

So I think it's more a case of we growing up in the modern world, you probably need to supplement with beneficial bacteria. There's a study about that with pets, right? Yes. Because of the type of bacteria you get exposed to. Yeah. If kids are raised, children raised with pets are less likely, significantly less likely to develop autoimmune issues than kids

that are not raised with pets. And kids on farms are the least likely. The Amish, there's like very, very low rates of autoimmune issues. Wish you would've helped me. Well I wonder how much, you know what's funny? Might've been way worse. Oh God.

You know? Because you grew up a lot of animals, right? Yeah, yeah, and on a farm, you know what I'm saying? I grew up working on a farm, well at least in my early teen years. Were you given a lot of animals, right? Yeah, yeah, and on a farm, you know what I'm saying? I grew up working on a farm, well at least in my early teen years. Were you given a lot of antibiotics as a kid? You know, that's a question from my mom. That's a good question.

Cause our generation was. You know, defined a lot, right? I do know, I do remember getting sick when I was younger and I do remember taking antibiotics. How often? I don't, you know, I don't know. Cause our generation, it's different now. Now if you're a kid, now doctors are like,

well, let's see, and often ear infections are not a bacterial infection, or sinus infection is not necessarily a bacterial. When we were kids. They threw that at everything. If you went in with any infection, they didn't care, it was just antibiotics. So I was on antibiotics a lot.

My kids, my three year old, I think he's ever only taken antibiotics once. That's it. When I was a kid, by the time I was three, I think I'd been on him so many times. For every damn infection. I would assume I was. I don't know though, because I don't recall.

In the study, did they talk about which brand of probiotic, or what kind? No, they're using just traditional, the ones that we know that are beneficial, the Bifida strains, Lactobacillus type strain, Lacta strains, those are the ones you'll find, because those are the ones that studies show that are beneficial across the board.

But there's varying degrees of quality, right? Like even dead good bacteria seem to have a positive effect. So you could take a probiotic and most of them will do this. They'll deliver dead bacteria to your gut because your gut will destroy it or it's already dead when it's in the capsule.

And then there are the refrigerator ones, which I used to think that's where you should get. The refrigerator ones, like by the time you put them in your mouth, your body's not refrigerated, the bacteria dies, gets destroyed by the acid or whatever, you still get some benefit. Now, put them in your mouth, your body's not refrigerated, the bacteria dies, gets destroyed by the acid or whatever. You still get some benefit. Now, if you get a good, like Seed does this, right?

This is why we work with Seed. They actually have developed this model, uh, that shows the capsule traveling through the digestive tract and coming to, you know, it gets to the part where you want the probiotics to be delivered and they're still alive and intact because of the way the capsules are designed. Is it the coating that they use? Yeah, it's the way the capsules are designed and the way that they put the bacteria in there.

And so you'll get, I mean, that's why the difference between seed and other probiotics is like light years. Substantial. Light years. Isn't that patented? Didn't they patent that too? That whole process. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like unique to that. So not just anybody can do that. But I mean, you know, muscle gains, there's other studies that show, I mean, I talked about this on the show, probiotics on depression and anxiety. That's wild where they see a pretty, I mean, a measurable impact on people with depression just by supplementing with a probiotic.

They've associated that a lot with like your gut bacteria, how it influences your mood and, and a lot with like your gut bacteria, how it influences your mood and a lot of factors like that. Yeah, totally. And then like birth control affects your gut microbiota, the microbiota on your skin. You know, a lot of things do. So it's interesting to see that. And then of course, like I said, what they're finding now is each generation is we're

getting less and less, I don't know what you would call it, like a variety or the type of bacteria that we have in our gut, we're finding it's starting to decrease over generation, over generation, because it's less than this generation. Then they have children and then as the child gets born, they adopt a lot of it from their mother. So they're starting from a lower standpoint and then they have kids and so this is why you may be seeing

the spike in like food allergies and autoimmune issues. It just started compounding over time. It's funny. It's just like studies like this. It just always points back to like when your body's like overall healthier, you just perform better. It's like as simple as that. But we need like these studies for people to get on board with like trying to improve other systems of their body. Otherwise they just like, I'm just going to keep taking, you know, whatever anabolic thing enhancer I can to get stronger, right? You know, meanwhile their guts like just violently like speaking to them, being neglected. Speaking of gut, you know how common parasites are?

I looked this up over the weekend. I didn't realize how common they were. I figured you'd be looking up parasites. Oh, so gross. What you doing? Oh, I look up parasites. Leisurely. Oh, dude.

Yeah. They're not as uncommon as you think in monitors. If you eat sushi on a regular basis. You said this. You probably have parasites. Sorry, pretty much that one. See? Chicken nuggets aren't that bad of an option now, right?

Am I right? No parasites. Shouldn't that have came up on my, all the stuff we've done with Cabral though by now? No, now let's do like a poop test. So we need to do that one. That's why I've been wanting to do that one. That's the one, I'm gonna be so mad

when he's like a bunch of stuff comes out and he's like, oh. Adam wants to draw some heat. Yeah. Yeah. I've never done one of those because like you gotta poop in something and then mail it. Yeah.

You know that, right? I've done that once, yeah. You did? Yeah. So what do you do? Like you poop in like a tray. We're not talking about when you put it in a paper bag and you light it on fire in front of somebody's house.

No, that's totally different. I've done that. What's that called, though? I don't know what you call it. Poo bag. is there a name for that has anybody ever done that here I did the pee one I did it with dog shit yeah really you live on fire and then so people don't know this the reason we light on fire is a personal disorder and they stomp it out to poop all over that's terrible I mean it's terrible yeah. So how does it work? You poo in a tray and then you put it in a bag or something?

This is, I mean. And then you freeze it, right? And then you mail it? Or do you just send it in? Well yeah, you just, I mean, you sort of, yeah, you collect it. You didn't have your wife catch it? No.

I didn't. I didn't. All self, I mean, self-contained. Hey, Dr. Cabral said we have to do this. Yeah, can you give me a hand? Yeah. He just sits right under you like. Oh, come on.

Oh! Oh! Hey, you guys took it here. Yeah. We're going to finish it. But then you got to like freeze it, right? Yeah. That's the weird part.

The gross part is you got to have it in your refrigerator. That's the part that's disgusting. Yeah, your freezer. Someone opens your freezer? Uh-huh. What's this? Put some chocolate on it. Where do you put it?

Do you put it next to the meat? It's its own section dude. Oh that's disgusting. What happened to your hand? What happened to your hand? What's up with the finger over here? Is that done from your nurse wife too or is that you? Oh yeah this is the nurse wife. Oh wow. You were fine when I saw you yesterday. It must have happened afterwards. It did yeah yeah because so we had dinner in like I'm not used to eating at 3 o'clock in the afternoon for dinner So I was hungry We had a good time at your place But I got home. I was like still hungry and so I was just like yeah

I don't want to eat like a full meal or anything. So you got your finger? What'd you do? Yes, I got hungry. And yeah, I'll get to that actually. So I was like, decided to like make a little spread of cheese and, and, uh, deli meats and naturally, and it's so stereotypical. It's I had like this chunk of Mimolette, um, still there and it's a hard cheese. It's like has this rind on it that's like a cannonball. Like you have to like really dig at it to be able to get like, you know, some of the cheese out. And so anyway, I'm like slicing it and getting to the point where like it was pretty low. So I had to like really get in like at a certain angle

where it was like kind of down. And I knew this was just it was just stupid it was stupid I should just left it like I had enough like everything was fine but I was using this knife and we have a really sharp knife set that like we bought a while ago and this one was like it could get through this hard cheese like no problem and so I actually hit a spot and it jumped up across, hit my middle finger and sliced it all the way from the fingernail all the way to where it was almost flopped and it was like-

You got stitches? No. So I was like, I was going to do that this morning and go to urgent care, but I was like, you know, I'm going to ride it out and and see I lost a lot of blood last night Wow over this and so that's not even the worst part So that was what I saw I was like, oh man, that's a lot of blood and Courtney's like runs and grabs stuff and is trying to like, you know stop the bleeding and And I just and then I looked at my hand and I had all this blood on my hand. I'm like, oh, wipe that off.

And I look at my ring finger and I looked at the tip, I literally cut off like a huge chunk of my, the tip of my finger. And so it like went like across and chopped off like a chunk and then sliced into this side. And this one, like, once I noticed that I was like, Ooh, like I hurt, like it was like very sensitive. Uh, cause like the tips, you know, when you feel things, that's like,

we've got like the nerves. So is it enough to where it's not going to grow back or you can have a weird looking thing? You have like, it's going to be a little weird. Oh, weird. So I was already got stubby fingers. Little nubs. I'm gonna be like nubby now. So you know the funny part which is like I was trying to be like calm. Everybody's freaking out. My kids like oh my god, are you okay? I'm fine. I'm fine. Just bleeding everywhere.

And like so I I kinda was making jokes to kinda lighten it up. And Everett goes over to, I'm like, why don't you just go eat? Cause he was trying to get in on the cheese with me and like, I'll listen. So he goes over and he's like eating from the thing. And then later, like Courtney's cleaning up.

She found the little chunk of my finger. Oh, come on, dude. On the cutting board. And I was like, good thing he didn't eat that. Oh. But I was like, I wonder where it went. You know, I have no idea. There it was.

Wow. Justin's finger. Dude, you know, what I'm pissed about is, like, I was really getting into guitar. And I was like, I was getting, like, and I wasn't telling you guys, but I was like, like, every day, like, I was really getting into guitar and I was like I was like and I wasn't telling you guys but I was like like every day like I was like drilling and I was doing things to improve and try and get back you know to what I could play because I was like obsessed over it for a while and like I you know just decade in between started to suck and I'm like ah maybe it's gonna grow back so

tough now you know I mean this is the beginning of your new career. Maybe, maybe, but I was just like, ah, great, like all my progress is like completely ruined. We were just talking off air how serendipitous everything in this business has been. Maybe that kept you from being great. Yep, you guys are not supposed to leave us. It was this close.

It was this close, dude. The world tour. If he ever broke up this band, it would be Justin trying to go solo, want to start his own thing and tour. We didn't tell you, but when you left, Adam and I were discussing this. We're like, he's getting too good at the guitar. So we did a little voodoo doll,

cut your little fingertip off. Just had to go crazy. Damn, you guys are behind this. So what's the plan to go back to the hospital later on? Or are you just gonna let it ride? I think I might. I mean, what's the wife saying? She was like, I think you need to go get stitches and I was like

well we'll see you know and so she's probably gonna hammer me about it when I get home and you don't get flesh eating bacteria again. Yeah. No. You know by now this shit would be swollen. I know. Yeah it's not affected. Yeah. Yeah it's just it's just like a big flop. Just walk it off. Yeah Yeah, just rub it out some grass with some glue and uh and some duct tape exactly I like super glues like your perfect Get remedy. That's my dad with every dog we ever had no matter what the dog had He'll eat some grass. Okay His legs broken. Bro. He's like, I'll eat some grass.

He'll eat some grass. He'll be fine, bro. He's just fine. That is so true. It was great having you guys over yesterday. I had a houseful. Full house, huh? Dude, so many little kids.

I see you guys didn't invite Doug and I again. There were not. I didn't invite Doug. Jealous, jealous because we hung out together. No, I invited Doug, and then I thought you were in Reno. Like a bunch of high school girls over here. But it's always open. Yeah.

Like, hey, shh, don't tell Doug. That's stupid. Doug was supposed to come over. Nah, I was supposed to come over. He was you were in Reno like a bunch of high school Yeah, okay, stu told Doug Now I was supposed to go just me It's every Sunday open door anybody come over we had a good with the address on my Instagram for Not anybody yeah, that'd be like a that'd be like a dirty prank to do with like, what if you're like friends that have a big following, right? To fucking do like that. Like the time you put my phone number in the bathroom at one time?

Adam? Yeah. He literally put my phone number in the bathroom, dude. That was fucked up, man. Salstabone. That was, yeah. Slummy. That was messed up.

Hey, speaking of fingers, dude, did you watch? He's a great, whoa, I can't wait for this transition. Oh, yeah. Slummy. That was messed up. Hey, speaking of fingers, dude, did you watch- This is great. Whoa, I can't wait for this transition. Oh, listen. Have you heard of the whole Kate Middleton conspiracy? You know who that is? No. The princess or whatever.

She and the royal family. Okay. And then people hadn't seen her. Like she had, for some reason, disappeared out of the public. People were speculating. So apparently, I'm just going to hijack just this one part. Yeah. So this picture in Vanity gonna hijack this one part. Yeah, so This picture in Vanity Fair was like her with like these kids. Yeah. Oh, I did see the her Those are her kids by the way, and everybody's been photoshopping things in it stuff like that

Yeah, well the photo itself the photo it's yeah, they doctor. Yeah, they doctored it Yes, because you could see this hand doesn't match that or what's going on. It's not a real Yeah, so everybody's speculating what happened to her where is she what's going on? So then she comes out and she does this video where she you know, unfortunately she has cancer Yeah, and they'd like some privacy or whatever. Well, anyway internet sleuths took AI Detecting technology because you apparently have there's these apparently these These companies or these apps where you could play a video and it'll tell you

the probability that the video is real or if it's AI. And people were doing this to the video of her coming out and saying she had cancer, and they were coming out with like 93% oh, it's AI. And then people were zooming in on the video of her talking and there's one part in particular, did you see it? Did I say it? No, no, you described it, but I still haven't seen it yet. While she's one part in particular, did you see it? No, you described it. Maybe Doug could find it. While she's talking, she has a ring on her finger,

halfway through her talking, the ring disappears and then the ring pops back on. Yeah, dude. So everybody's like, what is really going on? So the conspiracy theory is that she's a sacrifice. One of the royal family, they they part of some they worship Yeah, and that that that Princess Diana was the first one and then they're doing another one with her or whatever And they don't want anybody to know I don't know about all that all I do know is why is her ring her finger? Does the ring disappear? Wasn't she well, it wasn't her because it was the other the other, the other son that moved to Canada or whatever.

They were like the ostracized ones, right? So she was, was she like in opposition with the crown and their agendas? I mean that's what the conspiracy theorists are all saying. But what's weird to me is, because when I hear all this I'm like whatever dude, okay fine, AI tech, you know, detecting technology, who knows, but no, watch the video.

You see her hand while she's talking and the ring literally disappears and then pops back on. That's the weird part. Cause to look, look, Louis, I don't know if you could, you could push play on that Doug. See if that, yeah, let me see if that works. It's a nice ring. See, watch this.

She's done. Oh, it's gone. Well, I mean, it's behind her knee. No, no, no, no. That's the ring finger, bro. Okay. Well, it's not there. It's gone. It's gone. gone. Well, I mean, it's behind her knee. No, no, no, no. That's the ring finger, bro. Okay, well, it's not there. It's gone.

It's gone. And then boom, pause. Now it's here again. Yeah, dude. So like they're noticing little details like that, which is weird. Why would they do that? Well, it reminds me of,

you still haven't seen that series yet, right? With the octopus murders. Just started it. Okay. And you know, the way, you know, typical, we got a little kit, so we're going to watch 20 minute chunks. But we watched the first 25 minutes last. It's getting good. The one part I want you to watch is like, like Adam can

kind of jump in. That's crazy. Cause I want to see the original film again, because I know that, uh, well that what they said in the, in the video was that that was the original film, which you look at this tree and it's like suspended. So it obviously had been doctored. Yeah. Because the tree like should be in the ground. It's like not in the ground.

It's like floating. And so you're like, huh? That causes question. And then they showed what they claim to be the real video. And you're just like, oh my God. You said it was a driver turn around and hit him. Yeah. And shot him.

Yeah. When Ron Paul got interviewed, he said, he was asked, when do you think it all went bad? And he goes, JFK got assassinated. He goes, that's it, after that, everything went south. Well, I mean, if you watch that show, I mean, it was happening before, before that, it's just gotten worse.

Well, if you read about, people should look this up, if you really wanna get into this, there's a book called The Creature at Jekyll Island. Read about how the Federal Reserve was created, true story, it's all real. That's what got me down the rabbit hole was that book. Yeah, dude, and how they didn't wanna allow Federal Reserve, an official one, and then the people who were supposed

to vote on it or vote against it, how they died, and how they organized it. Speaking of the Fed, did you see, I think I sent you the video of the cryptocurrency that's getting all bought up right now. Did you see that's what's... Yeah, so explain it. So BlackRock apparently is buying a lot of Bitcoin.

Yeah. Which is one of the reasons why the price of it's going through the roof. What's the point? I mean, what do you mean? I think they see the writing on that clip to you, and I think they see the writing on the wall that, or, I mean, who knows what they're telling us and what they really believe is they just, they see the cycles of it and know it's going to make a run again. And it's a place. I't remember what percentage I saw an interview where they talked about what percentage of their investments were moving into

that. But it was a pretty substantial piece. I mean, in comparison to in the past what they had done. So huge jump. Yeah. So they whether they're directly responsible for the huge spike or, you know, by proxy, because they did it and everybody else is now following. Right. So do you guys have a, so I have a story. I think a lot of people have similar stories like this. I have a, I was almost a billionaire story with Bitcoin, you know, because, no, Adam would be, if you remember your password, right?

Bro, I, so I, when I used to have my studio, so this had to, this has gotta be at least, 10 years ago, 12 years ago maybe. I miss Google and Netflix bad like that. So I had, so check this out, I had a client who was a hardcore libertarian, and this is when I was really learning about, you know, politics and government and all that stuff,

and his name's Martin, I'll give him a shout out right now And I remember Morton coming to me and talking to me about blockchain technology And you got to get this thing called Bitcoin and he bought a specific computer to mine Bitcoin and I remember me like dude just buy just buy like a thousand dollars worth like who cares you never know whatever and it Back then it wasn't easy to get it on there wasn't a coin base or whatever Yeah, and it was you guys know me as too much If it's too much of a pain in the ass, I'm not gonna do it, right? So I'm like, eh, nah, I don't know. But I was just close to buying a couple thousand dollars,

which today would be worth a couple hundred million dollars. At least, had I bought it. I was so close. I missed Netflix and I missed Google. I trained a girl who was like the, and this was like when nobody knew what Netflix was. They were still doing the mail-in in the DVDs and stuff like that. And she, I remember her telling me like, Oh, this is going to be where they're going and where it's heading. And I remember like her

telling me about it. I'm like, Oh, this is brilliant. And this was just at a time where I wasn't buying any stock. I didn't have a lot of extra money laying around and I should go. She's like, you know, you should take just a couple of grand, same thing, and just go buy a few shares. Yeah, yeah, yeah, say yeah, yeah, yeah. So I missed that one, and obviously that would have been worth a bajillion dollars now. And then Google, same thing, I remember when they,

I had a training another client, she was an executive for Knightrider, which is the San Jose Mercury News place. And she just, she said, hey, Google's gonna go for Knight Ritter, which is the San Jose Mercury News place. And she just, you know, she said, hey, Google's gonna go and they're gonna change the game and everything, and I think it was like, they opened at 30 or $60 or somewhere in that range.

She's like, you should buy a few thousand dollars worth of that, and again, I know, I know. Then you find me spending, you know, dropping $10,000 in Cove, because I think that's it. Yeah, that's your buddy, dude. I did two, thanks. That's Brandon.

That's Brandon, you know what I'm saying? I think you guys. I didn't know what it was, I just said, you got me all hyped on it. You got me all hyped on it. Sometimes your closing ability is too good. Oh man. Just like, I ignored you guys on that one.

Did you leave us on that one? Yeah, I ignored you guys on that one. Doug got leave us on that one? Yeah, I ignored you guys. Doug got hooked too. I think I got all of you guys. I got the worst though. I think I put the most. And so of course. My dad's got a story like that.

He used to own, remember my dad, you know, no, he's no education, poor immigrant, saved his money, worked hard. And he's like, one of his dreams was to buy, he owned his house. They owned, my mom and dad owned their house. And he's like, you know, buying property. I, one of his dreams was to buy, he owned his house, my mom and dad owned their house, and he's like, you know, buying property, I heard that's a good thing to do. And he bought a fourplex in San Jose. Oh my God.

Okay. Wow. Yes, he had a fourplex in San Jose. Would that be worth it? And well, there was a recession. Millions. And now my dad being, I mean, he was, like I said, you know, blue collar worker, four kids supporting them, my mom didn't work at the time.

Later she was a teacher. He would be the guy who would do the repairs. He would show up, he'd fix the sink, he'd fix the door. So he would come home from work, which he already worked hard. He was just like, this is too much work for me. And then he would go and he would fix things for them. And then there was a recession.

So they were like, my dad was like, it was costing them a couple hundred bucks a month to keep this fourplex. And so my dad was like, it was costing them a couple hundred bucks a month to keep this fourplex. And so my dad was like, ah, you know, I want to, I want to, I think I want to get rid of it. Now here's his story. If he, when he tells a story, he says he lost a lot of money, because right now the fourplex would be worth, I don't know, six million dollars or something like that, or whatever. He'd be easily bringing a hundred thousand, you know, a couple hundred grand a month, excuse me, a year in just rent. But he says he's happy he sold it because we were supposed to travel to Italy,

just me and my dad, and I was only maybe nine at the time. And he was trying to sell it and there was a recession, nobody was buying. Then a buyer came forward and said, I'll buy it. And my dad was able to kind of break even. So he canceled his trip to sell and break even. And he says it was a blessing because we were supposed to go, everybody was preparing for us to be there and they had this big meal.

And there was some, there was this like, I don't know what it was. It was like this vegetable that they had collected up in the hills that they had prepared for us. We didn't go, we didn't have the big celebratory dinner. Anyway, everybody who ate that dinner, many of them ended up in the hospital

because there was some pesticide or some chemical that was sprayed on the vegetable. Had a nine-year-old kid like me eating that, I might have died. So my dad says, save your life. So that's the story. So, okay. My stepdad has two stories where he lost out huge.

First one was, so he was a carpenter contractor, right? He had his own business and he built in Oakdale, where we used to live at that time, a bank called Bank of Stockton, I think is the name of the bank. You look it up to see how many branches they have now, but it was like one of the first ones, right? One of the first ones.

And when he was done with the job, they still owed him a couple thousand dollars and they offered him a bunch of shares in the company instead. Oh no. And of course, you know, back then, it's like, yeah, $2,000 for my family was like, no, we need this and so he turned it down.

And I mean, I remember when he told the story, you know, two decades ago, how much it would have been worth it But it's got to be so much more now. So he missed on that one. Then he had another situation Where and this is a little more or a little less or more unfortunate? But like kind of like who knows how many now Wow Looks like they have quite a few branches. It was like one of the first probably about 20. Maybe yeah The second this he was working for PG&E and again,

hard workers have always been talented in construction work and efficient. My stepdad was known for that, right? And so they had him climbing poles earlier because he was one of the best at it even though he wasn't certified to do it and There's like Larry will do it he's so good I just have him do it and he fell off a pole and landed on his back and he was like

permanently partially disabled forever from that and So he had this massive lawsuit with PG&E and he ended up settling and taking like 50 grand instead of actually taking pursuing it Yes, I mean you're talking about something that should have been I mean he's like he was he was diagnosed permanently and he ended up settling and taking like 50 grand instead of actually taking them. Pursuing it? Yes. I mean, you're talking about something that should have been. I mean, he was diagnosed permanently, partially disabled from it. It would have been way more mad. He was bedridden for almost half a year,

a year plus out of work. Way easier than that. Oh yeah. And it was, they threw 50 grand at him and he jumped all over it and took it instead of like taking it the distance. And I mean, that would have been massive. Oh, there's a lot of situations like that and you ran at him and he jumped all over it and took it instead of like taking it to distance. And I mean that would have been massive.

Massive. There's a lot of situations like that where people aren't familiar with the legal system. Yeah. And I mean think about that. You're climbing a pole, okay, for a union job. Oh yeah. You're not certified.

And you- He would've got at least 10 times. Oh, at least. At least 10 times. At least I think. Oh yeah. I'm not a lawyer. I'm sure somebody listening right now will comment. It will say, yeah, I'm an internet lawyer.

Yeah, I don't know exactly what it was, but I sure should know. It was more than 50 grand. Speaking of banks, I'm surprised you guys didn't know. And I'm going to tell you, just for people who don't know, one of the biggest banks in the country, Bank of America, originally, and I know you guys laughed at me. Bank of Italy, though. it was the Bank of Italy. We were walking.

It's so funny. I told you guys this, you guys were making fun of me. You thought, oh yeah, right, Bank of Italy. It was. AP Giannini was the founder of Bank of America. He was, and he created Bank of Italy to give loans to Italian immigrants because they were not giving them money. Yeah, I was just down in San Diego.

They have basically a little shrine for him in little Italy there. No way. Yeah. What an interesting fact. So were the colors different too and did it originally start in Italy? Look at the Bank of Italy, no it started here.

So it did start here. I think it started in San Diego. San Diego, he wanted to, again, there were a lot of Italian immigrants. Who would have thought, like, you would think that it was a terrible name for a bank here? Well, it was because it was for the immigrants. No, I get it.

You're right, that's why you changed it to bank. Of course, right, I get it, you know what I'm saying? I get what his plan was, smart. He's like, oh, okay, I got it. Incorporate everybody. You had to start with this group and then move on. Back in those days, in fact, there's a movie that's out right now I want to go watch called Cabrini.

I haven't seen it yet. I think I showed you guys the trailer. Back in those days, the Italian immigrants were really discriminated against and looked down upon by everybody else that was here. And so he created that bank because nobody wanted to give him money. Actually founded in San Francisco. San Francisco. There you go.

That's right. I should have known that. Anyway, I got to tell you guys, Actually founded in San Francisco. San Francisco. There you go. That's right. I should have known that. Anyway, I got to tell you guys, my son is so funny. He wakes up the other day, and he sleeps in. Never sleeps in. So my three-year-old, 6 AM, he's up. I don't care what. Always 6 AM, he wakes up.

And that's it. Ready to go. Well, he slept till like 7 45, which is just Jessica and I were like, this is like there's something wrong Yeah, we're watching the camera and everything like this a gift from God. It's amazing, right? He comes out and he sees that the Sun is up cuz every time he wakes up It's dark outside so the Sun is up and he comes out and he's like, wow I slept so good and he's walking around all proud or whatever and then later on that night, you know We're going back to bed and he goes,

he goes, Papa, how come, he goes, I slept really good but I'm still not like you. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, I'm not big. I'm like, oh. Oh. He's, I'm sorry buddy. Can I tell him you grow when you go to sleep, you know?

He thought he was gonna wake up and he's, oh my God, I slept! He can't really sleep, man. He's all the same height. He's all disappointed. You know, he's not the same size as his dad. I know. It's cute.

It's cute. You know how I do that right now? This is funny because I've been sharing this process with the books and getting him to ... Yeah. Yeah. So the newest thing I bought, I bought this, what do you call the rock shiner kit things? You know where they tumble the rocks and then you you do a bunch of great idea. I gotta get that I know so you just collect rocks outside. Oh, yeah, cuz you so what made me do it was

He's already been collecting rocks like crazy. So I was like he's gonna love this, right? So I get I get a video and I'm like, I'm like, hey check this out and I'm like showing him He's like, oh, that's so cool. I was like, do you want this? And he's like, yeah. Yeah I was like, oh, let's get this is gonna be like 14 books or some of that. He's like, okay, okay. So we, uh, I buy it. So I always buy it, right? I buy it right away. And then I set it up. So it's up on my counter right now and it's got the books that he's got to read. This has been up there for like two weeks. And, uh, the other day Katrina was like, granted, my son has had like the flu for like the last week. So he's a little off right now and everything. So she tried to get them the other day when

they're home sick. She says, like, Hey, you want to, you want to get your rock thing and you want to read some books? No, I don't feel like reading right now, but it blows me away that he hasn't bugged for it. He doesn't ask for it. It just, it's what a great, it sits right there on the counter. Like I'm like, I want it to like entice him. I want him to go like, daddy, I really want that. So I go, oh, we got to read our books. But he's like, we've asked him like twice.

You can give him a loan? Just give him a thing, dude. Yeah, so he hasn't done anything towards it this week. And now, like I said, granted, he's been really sick. And so it's like, he's off. And so we're not pushing the issue. But I thought it was so hilarious that this thing came in I thought man

I don't know if I could been like that if I was a kid and I wanted something and then I got and I saw It like yeah, I mean you yeah either one I'm driving snuck it Yeah, I made there I'm sneaking it driving you crazy or I'm doing whatever it takes to get it. Yes You want it? I know I've been through the same process with ever it in like I remember telling you guys about this like grandiose Plan he had for like buying an arcade game for the house and like oh, that's right It's so he was like saving and stacking he was like maybe Almost three-quarters of the way there He was like a couple hundred dollars and like, you know people were kind of slowly contributing to it

It's like a big like, like such a lofty goal, you know, for him to be able to do it and like was doing all the chores and you know, it would burn out and then would come back and he would kind of make a little progress, come back again. Well, apparently like one of his friends actually has the game and he was over there and he was like playing and he's like, you know, like he's over it. He's like over it He's like, you know, I just I don't you know, I'm kind of glad that I didn't you know My god, this is in the blessing. I was trying to You with this like but at the same time I respect that like it's that's how I feel

Impulsive. That's how I feel about it too is I'm like, uh, I'm like, well, this was not the desired outcome. The idea was that he would read more and more when he sees this. But then at the same time too, I'm like, well, you know, the fact he's not asking for is not bugging me and stuff like that. Like, okay, you know, you still have your money, you know, like you can use it somewhere else. This for sure is the part. I mean, my son's only four going on five. You know, it's hard at this age to see yourself in him, you know, like little things here and there, right?

Like we're similar. This is an area that I think I've brought up to you guys before where like, I am so that person where it's like on my terms. And it's like, you know. That's good. Like I just, like I just, you, I might wanna do something super risky and daring, and then I may not want to do it.

And it's like. And I'm okay with it. Yeah, and I'm okay with it. And nothing anybody else could say can influence me one way or the other. And so I see that in his character. And so I don't wanna push it. It's just like, oh, okay.

It is funny to see those traits. My three-year-old has my cautious traits, and my one-year-old does not have my, she'll climb anything and launch herself off on us. And my three year old is like, we got a big trampoline in the backyard, so we put a big trampoline back there, it's a lot of fun. You should see my three year old go in there.

He climbs up, he gets on there, he just lays on it. Flat. I'm like, you're supposed to jump on it. He goes, no, I'll just stay like this. This is better. I'll just stay like this. This is safe. Yeah.

You know what I bought for him that's cool I think you would love? It's cheap, it's on Amazon, it's like 20 something bucks, maybe 30 bucks. It's for, you get a two liter bottle, you empty out a two liter bottle, you fill it with water a little bit. I have to look that up.

You stick it on, I'd show Justin. You pump it up. It's just a bike pump. Bro, it goes, it blasts off. Send me the link so I can look it up. It is awesome. I mean is it just rocket, water, rocket? Water dude, and you link so I can look it up. It is awesome. I mean, is it just rocket? Yeah, I definitely, water rocket. Water, dude.

And you pull a string and it goes up. He's really, one of the best purchases I've made so far with him, well, two things, I would say, is obviously the number blocks and then the science kit. Like, we did this, we were doing the science kit again. He really digs into getting and doing all that stuff. And that'll keep him busy for hours. That's awesome.

Speaking of science, I have to shoo this in while I have the opportunity. This was like another cool experiment. I didn't know anything about it. And I just come across this video and it was like part of this documentary of this experiment where it's called so no luminescence. So this is where they take like a bubble and it's inside a liquid like I guess it's water or whatever and

Basically you add sound waves to it which agitates the gas inside the bubble and it it actually like the bubble and it actually like turns it into this like reaction where it gets a really bright blue light actually looks like a star. It gets so bright. Wow. And it like changes from a bubble to this little like glowing light that looks like a star. I was like, what the fuck?

You look that up, Doug. It's just so trippy. I'm like, and then you start thinking about that. Like, you know, cause, um, to, to have sound waves kind of create a reaction like that, you know, and if you think like on the universal scale, like in terms of how stars and how like everything's like light is a big thing, you know, like sound is all part of this. Like it says the mysteries, so they don't know how it works. They don't know, yeah.

Really? It's just so weird. I was like, I didn't, did you, Sal said he brought up, and I don't remember. Yeah, see, I knew we were gonna go here. Sal brought up on the show, maybe I'm just so bad, sometimes he brings stuff up and I'm like, oh, whatever, it doesn't sound that cool to me

until I see it myself. And I saw it. I know he does it to me too, so it's only fair. Cause I sent over an article and said, bro, we got to talk about this. This is crazy. He's like, we already talked about it on the show. I'm like, what? I don't remember talking about this. And I saw that they did this study on- There's a Japanese scientist that Doug's familiar with this. And they spoke positive things into water and then froze it. Yeah.

And then they did negative things and it made these like- Different crystallized- Way different. Not like kind of different like- No, it's organized and beautiful. It's beautiful. When it's positive. And then the other one's old.

So they did positive, they did words of affirmation, positive words, they did prayer, then they did negative words, criticism, and you could clearly see the difference. Yeah. These are all frequencies. And This is like cymatics and stuff. This is stuff I geek out on because I think there's like so much more to vibration sound and all that. We're not like investigating the full potential. That's why I thought this was so, and maybe I just needed the visual because you probably talked about it and I thought, oh, cool. The crystals are a little different. It's like crazy different.

It's very different. Yeah. No, I mean, look, words are very interesting. If we didn't understand words, we wouldn't think in the same way, the same organized way. Look at those pictures. Yeah.

Like imagine right now trying to think in a, for the future, or to plan without words. So there's this big debate whether or not we would even have that capability until the creation of language. It was language that allowed us to organize our thoughts and to think in more human ways. So yeah, all this stuff has crazy, crazy power.

Yeah, I just thought that was so weird. It's almost like, it reminds me of like the abyss or something, you know, it's like, it's alien. It's like like, it reminds me of the Abyss or something. It's like, it's alien. Can you imagine seeing a little bubble and then all of a sudden it just starts glowing and it looks like this little star? What the hell? What was that movie?

Wasn't that a movie? Was it called The Abyss? What was that movie? There was a movie called Abyss. There was, right? The Abyss. It was like an alien that was like a bubble. That's what it was.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good stuff. I've been on this spiritual journey or whatever, so I'm watching people debate and discuss things and I love their discussion. I heard one of the best arguments, I told this to Adam today, I heard one of the best arguments I'd ever heard. For the hypocrisy around you. Yes, dude.

So you ever hear this? You ever hear people say this? They're like, well, yeah, I know a lot of whatever, insert, right? Christians who are just, they're hypocrites. They don't, I know a guy who goes to church, but he gambles or I know this person that whatever. Cheats on his wife. Are they human? Well, so beyond that, like think of this,

imagine walking into a gym and seeing, looking around and be like, look at all these hypocrites. Look at all these not ripped people. Look at that obese person over there working out. What a hypocrite. And I'm like, oh yeah. Why that's so crazy. It's crazy, you're working on it.

Obviously. Of course, that's why it exists. He, Sal, Sal shared that this morning. And I thought, oh, that is, I've never heard that. That's actually a really interesting point. And what's even more interesting to me is that how fucked up our society is that if our audience heard us

talk about people in the gym that are fat as like hypocrites, you know what I'm saying? Or talk to anybody said that people, Oh, we would be totally hammered over that. But just a flyably so, but absolutely not a big deal to say somebody, the bunch of hypocrites are. I've seen some comments. I don't read a lot of comments, but I've seen a few of like some criticisms and things. And we get sometimes like religious people that will like, it will bring up some topics and they'll hammer like, for some reason you specifically on using like cursing. And I'm like, so you're, for me, that's always been like a bit of a wedge issue. Like it's like,

if you're going to like judge so harshly on somebody in the way that they use language, and in terms of the reaction of it, I can understand situations, but to say somebody's less holy or less enlightened or less pursuing the greater good and truth because of some, you know Some some language the discrepancies like you got to check yourself

It's the whole like pull the plank out of your own eye, right? Come on. We're all people like everybody's I just that shit irritates me Just because what I'll intentionally use swear words for somebody like that to bring them back to reality Yeah, I mean those I mean I grew up around that, right? Yeah, same with me. And when I see that, I think what's so funny is because these are also the people too that are the most, you know, staunch with like, okay, I'm... They need rules.

Well, they're so funny because they're the ones that think that they're so holy and they're on this mission that all they think about is bringing other people to God and this and that. And it's just like, you understand that that approach by doing that is like the quickest way to turn somebody off of wanting anything to do with that. Well, what it amounts to me is use of force versus like,

you know, agreeing or presenting something that people can all agree towards, work towards versus forcing people to do this. Exactly. How do you do that? The most powerful way, and this is not just a religious talk. Yeah, bring it to fitness. Yeah, this is fitness. This is your ideas with anything.

It could be going to a movie or dinner with your wife. The most powerful way to get people to agree with you or follow you is to get them to be attracted. Attracted to the ideas, attracted to what you're doing, and nothing is more powerful than living that as an example that is so good, so shining, so cool that people go, man, what is it about you that I don't have, I want, and then inquire about it, and then you have the opportunity. I've been in the fitness industry for two and a half decades.

I am very convincing. I have no shortage of words. I have yet to convince a family member or friend to start working out because I just went up to them and started hammering them about it. It never works. The only success I've ever had in my entire life is to be the example and then to be approached.

And people come up, you know, you got so much energy or you know, what do you think about the side? And I'm gonna add to that. Also getting to a place in your journey where you're so empathetic for all of their faults and failures and things like that. So imagine these people that you're talking about, Justin, I don't know, that are like pointing out all the flaws and like, you fucking idiot. Like that's like the worst way you could possibly do that. Like you just said a bad word. Yeah, you're

right. You're right. Fucking idiots. You know what I'm saying? Like that is not the way to do it. That's not the way to do it at all. Like that's not gonna, being understanding and empathetic and kind and loving, it's the same thing to your point with the fitness. It's like, you, that means- It's an elitist attitude. That's right, you can still be honest. You can still be honest. Yeah.

I've had people come up to me and say, hey man, like, why is my energy so low? You know, I'm not feeling good. I'm like, well, I mean, you know, let's talk about your diet. And they just be honest, but people ask and they see it. Yeah, and what's way more powerful? You go in like, oh, man, I know. I understand what it's like to struggle with that.

Because you really do. Because I do too, and it's hard for this. And here's some of the things that I work on. That approach is so much more powerful than being like, oh, shaming you? It's probably because you're lazy. Yeah. Is shaming you because you're doing that?

Yeah, good luck getting people in shape or bringing people to God that way. No, I got to talk about it. bringing people to God that way. Dumb. You know, I gotta talk about, I'm gonna take a left turn here. You know that, did you guys know that there are- We'll talk about the YouTube comments, bro. I can't, I know, I got y'all fired.

You're shaming people for shaming. I just got off that thing. I don't know, that one got me just because I, you know, it's just like what I grew up with, the same thing, the same kind of like just overbearing pressure to live under some kind of a standard and just pure judgment in that environment. It's brutal.

It's invitation. So I was reading some, we talked earlier about autoimmune issues and stuff. The autoimmune or immunomodulating effects of cannabinoids, it's really interesting. There's more and more studies now showing how effective cannabinoids like CBD, CBC. With autoimmune.

Yeah. Interesting. It tamps down the severity of the effect of autoimmune issues. And for people with low immune systems, it helps boost it up. So it's got this, that's why they call it immunomodulating. It's an immunomodulating effect.

I've never taken, maybe I should take my Ned like that. Just like I've never consistently taken it. I use it as needed. That's kinda how I've. You can also try it topically. You know that? On your psoriasis. I've actually read that it actually can work topically

also on the skin. Yeah, I've used some of the creams like that. And all, I mean, because it's a, because of it's like a dry skin fungus thing, like all oily anything feels. Yeah, yeah, like coconut oil feels amazing. I sometimes I'll do that. If I got nothing in the house,

I'm gonna go scoop some coconut oil and rub it on there and it'll tamp down like how bad it feels. So this isn't related, but so Everett, he reacts pretty strongly to poison oak. And so he'll get it every now and then. And so he was doing his sort of like meet up with the neighbor kids and got it again. And I guess somebody was saying that,

cause he was using some kind of very expensive kind of a cream to help the healing process. It was like, I don't know, some brand name that was like, I don't know, the latest like breakthrough thing. But, um, I guess somebody was saying that Dawn actually is probably the most effective thing you can use. Regular dish soap, Dawn? Yeah. Really?

Yeah, and I think the thought process is like, because it's some kind of pulling the oils. Yeah, because the oils is the problem that spreads. Look up Dawn for poison. Yeah, I want to fact check it. I have no idea if that's interesting. True, but that's what they said. I just remember the commercials with the Exxon Valdez

oil spill and they were cleaning the ducts with it. Yeah, they're little baby ducts. They always bring that up. Yeah. That is the gift that keeps giving forever, bro. Yeah, we saved them. We saved them. Yeah, I know.

Interesting. What's it say there? Liquid dish soap or mild soap or a very warm one in water? That's not what I think. I don't think it's just Dawn. I think it's just any. I don't think Doug Googled it right. This is, I think this is like internet.

Just soap from Poison Ivy? Did I ever tell you this is like forum or... I just think Dawn got lucky and had their brand associated with it. Did I ever tell you guys my uncle, my, so this is my grandfather's generation uncle. So he's now passed away, but he, when he first came to this country, so, you know, when they grew up super poor. So when you're in, you know, back in those days in Sicily, you work up in the hills, sometimes you live up there

for a few days to work and then you come back down and they don't have money for toilet paper or whatever, so they would go to the bathroom in the hills and they'd use leaves to wipe themselves with. Anyway, did I tell you guys this? He did the series. I already know where it's going. He used poison oak to wipe his, yeah dude.

Poison oak is all in his butt. Really? Yeah, it's going. He used poison oak to wipe his. Oh, no. Yeah, dude. That poison oak is all on his butt. Really? Yeah, it's true story. Yeah, dude. I don't know. How do you deal with that? You don't. What do you do?

Just sit in the bathtub all day? Yeah, actually, that's probably a hot bath probably all day. Bad as you can get all day. It's supposed to be like an oatmeal bath, is what you're supposed to take. Actual oatmeal? Yeah, I think oatmeal. Try that one.

OK. I've never had. OK, now, this is like a would you rather kind of question, right? So would you rather have that, like, and wipe with that? Or like Tiger Balm, you know, or like something where it's like, yeah. Oh my god.

You know, like you don't know. Tiger Balm for sure, Justin, because that's over and done with. The poison. Well, unless it lasts as long. Oh, well, then that would be different. Isn't that like a prank? Well, because that's like one of those, if you don't wash your hands good enough like it

You know the worst about that stuff is like you do some of that and you actually rub your eye or something like that Oh, what so what's that? That was a prank, right? Yes, buddy jocks. It's my sister's friend in there in their bra and panties No, you did it What would they start screaming? Yeah, I got big trouble I've got the burn than the itch, I guess is my point. Oh man, the itch would be in the butthole, in that long, oh, I would, that's what I'd do. I'd just sit in a bath.

Just sit in a bath all the time. Just running water. Yeah, just bath, bath all the time. The way those things work, by the way, same thing with spicy foods, it tricks the senses, what are they called, the taste buds or sensors, that it's pain. It's not actually pain, but you feel it as pain.

And you can't, there's nothing you can do about it. You see those videos of people eating those super hot chips, and they're like, there was a couple kids that had to go to the hospital over it, that's how bad it was. Isn't that the latest TikTok thing, right, is the chip thing? I don't know if it's the latest.

What are they, like, dipped in Ghost Reapers or something? You buy one. You buy one chip, there's like a gas station thing, right? Is the chip thing. I don't know if it's the latest. What are they, like, dipped in Ghost Reapers or something? You buy one. You buy one chip. There's a gas station chip, right? Isn't that what it's called? I don't know, but it comes in a box and it's one chip. We got Dylan here, he should know. Dylan, do you know anything about this?

I think you guys have talked about it about before. It's like the death chip or something. Yes, yes, it's like the death chip. Yeah, it's the one chip challenge, they call it. Yeah. What kind of pepper is in it? Pocky, let me see here. What's the late, what's going on on TikTok lately, Doug?

I have zero idea. Okay. He's working on his latest like routine. Yeah, I got my dance going on here. Good deal. Oh dude. We have a shout out today. Is it the chip?

Oh no, actually let's shout out. By the way, it's a Carolina Reaper chip. It was some kind of Reaper. Let's shout out the conversation that Justin just sent over. Oh I love that. My oldest sent that to me too. I'm sucked into that.

Yes. It's Jordan Peterson and he interviewed Destiny. Destiny is his gamer name. His gamer handle. Oh that guy's a gamer? He's a streamer. He's a streamer and then he started and then he'd be then he started doing political commentary got really popular interesting Yeah, I mean he's a really smart guy. Oh, he's a smart very smart kid articulate his points. He's like 35. It's a really good

Debate it gets heated, but they're respectful. Yeah, and they both make pretty good points. Yeah I mean, I've only seen like maybe 15 minutes of it and I was pulled in I was like, oh I gotta watch this later on This is really good. I loved I love You know, you know, I know obviously what you so weird you bring up Jordan Peters his name and it's like this massive You know triggering for some people but it's like man a conversation like that I mean, that's what it's all about right there do you. Having, bringing somebody in who you disagree on, getting after it, but respecting each other. Yeah, there were no personal attacks.

Well, now if you don't like Jordan Pearson, you'll like this interview, because I feel like it's probably the best argument in opposition. There's another guy that I told you guys that I went down, I looked up that people were claiming like he got, Jordan got eviscerated, which was not true, but it was a good argument,

and it was an atheist that argued with him. I think he did better than Sam Harris did with him and they went around and around. It was pretty good, actually. But yeah, I've heard a couple of his that are like that that are just, I mean, those are great, great conversations. Jordan Peterson, Destiny Interview.

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what does that thank you for? You know, everything you guys do. You've helped me both personally and even in my fitness career as a trainer, definitely a huge help from you guys out of that one. Yeah, well, how can we help you? Yeah, so let me preface with a little bit of a, you know, backstory kind of get in my question from there. So I'm 37 now, when I was 30, I suffered a stroke from migraines. But in short, like after a bunch of testing and everything like that, the doctors pretty much said I had a stroke without actually having a stroke. Like I had no typical signals in the testing. There was no blood clot. All the scans came out fine. No burst, no hemorrhage. You know, anything typical never showed up in any of the science. It actually took them like 24 hours to find it. So altogether,

four areas on my brain were affected. The biggest part being my motor coordination. And up until that point, I had been lifting since I was about 20, so almost 10 years then. I had been an athlete my whole life, you know, very active, very healthy. You know, nothing typical that would set it off. And it was kind of the freak thing. And at the time, my right side completely went numb. And basically my left side should have been numb because everything they said is its opposite brain. So it was kind of an anomaly too, because the right side that was affected, my left side should have been numb, but my right side was numb.

So super, super weird case. So fast forward to today, pretty much. Pretty good now, like very slight issues on the right side of my body here and there as far as like balance and things go. I went through PT and recovery from there for about seven weeks to just basically stand up straight again and walk straight again. But after about a year and a half of recovery, I got back into lifting, eased my way into it and no go back up to it. But fast forward to today, what my question basically is I notice my CNS, everything just

doesn't fire properly. I noticed that my right side overcompensates for everything, push exercises like presses, triceps, my back always wants to kick in. My back's super tight. It's always trying to overcompensate like it's for everything. And it's super frustrating for me, especially being a trainer. I know, I feel like I know what I'm doing. I have a lot of experience there and I try to treat myself almost as a client, you know, I mean like how I

would treat a client and cue them up and do the same thing with me and nothing seems to stick with me. I can't connect to the muscle the way I should. So I wanted to ask you guys from a, from a training standpoint, I mean, you've been working out now for a while since you had the stroke, right? This was back when you were 30 or 37 now you said? Yeah, so I've been working out again a consistent just about almost five years now, four and a half five years. There's gonna be some limiting factors that exercise won't be able to solve. However, I think exercise has done a significant amount in terms of benefit and I think you can continue to improve, but if there's a limitation due to CNS damage or damage to a part of the brain, um, then there's,

at this point, there's only so far you can go without maybe talking to. So what about exploring my peptides and stuff or something like this? You know, it depends how, how depends how badly the damage is there, I would say. I don't know, I wouldn't know how to comment on something like this. I've worked with clients with nerve damage and we can get pretty far, but there's certain things

that just won't regenerate. And so you're working at that point with compensations. I think unilateral training is where I would live. Yeah, symmetry is the program that I would do. I would always do unilateral training because you're going to be more apt to develop imbalances or to strengthen imbalances with a barbell than you are with, you know, one side at a time type of training. Did the doctor say anything about like managing your intensity as you went back

into the lift weights or anything? No. So, I mean, they said pretty much just, you know, they kind of trusted me in a sense and just said, you do what you do. Just kind of eased up into it. Don't go, you know, crazy like that. Um, so I know what I've tried, you know, I do actually like half my routine right now is a lot of, you know, a lot of stuff. And I still notice the same thing where it helps, but it's the same thing where my left side just doesn't want to develop like my right side does. Um, I mean, I notice it, you know, obviously I'm nitpicky, but like I noticed bicep, tricep, legs, everything on my left side is

definitely less strength wise, size wise than my right. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's, there's elements of the body that don't regenerate and central nervous system and nerve type stuff is, falls under that category. But I definitely wouldn't stop and I would focus on unilateral training. I wouldn't do half. I do a hundred percent. Yeah. Always. And, and always. And what will be challenging because you, because to you, you notice a significant difference from left to right, uh, is the, the desire to want to keep pushing the stronger side. It's like, you gotta just, you gotta mirror

what you can do on the weaker side. If you want, if we're going to chase symmetry, right? If we're going to try and balance the body out as much as possible, you know, if you can only leg press X amount of weight on the left side, you got to do that on the right side and just mirror it and not, and resist the temptation to want to push more

with the more dominant side. Is, is the other, you know, another thing you can add, and I don't know how much of a difference this will make, but it, throughout the day is to try to use the side that's been affected more than the dominant side. So. Frequency. Balance on that foot more often, use that hand more often.

And just anytime you do something, use that side because that'll continue to send a consistent signal to the body. And there may be some compensations that can happen. You know, the brain's got some plasticity, so there may be some compensations that can still happen, but I would do a lot of frequency in the sense of just living my life. I would aim to use that side more or as much as possible.

Yeah. Even like doing like isometric stuff on that side, I think it would be great for him, you know? So focusing on things like that. Do you have our symmetry program? I don't, I usually just do a lot of my own stuff that makes sense, I can try it for sure. Yeah, we think you'll like it. Yeah, let's send that over to you

and literally follow it the way it's laid out too because I think you'll benefit from the isometrics at the beginning too. Awesome, I appreciate it. Yeah, that's the thing, I definitely don't, you know, I definitely don't go 50% I mean, every day, a couple of days, I have like some shitty days, but pretty much I'll try to go 100%. And one thing I learned from you guys a while ago was not overdoing it on one side, then the other, you know, I like on single side, I'll do that side first, wherever I feel whatever,

and then I just match it. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah. Okay, perfect. Yeah, good. You're on point, dude. Yeah. And I would guess- Just use time and volume, yeah. And I would guess because of your training and your experience and consistency, you're a lot farther than you would have been

without those things. Oh, 100%. Yeah, so kudos to you for that. I appreciate that. If I can follow up real quick, if you don't mind, with something. Sure. So the other part of that is I notice the uh, the migraines got way better since,

you know, that kind of happened. They kind of went away from the most part. I get them here and there. Certain workouts definitely trigger that. And I didn't know if there's a way around it or again, kind of maybe avoid it altogether. So like shrugs, um, barbell deadlifts and barbell back squats are the three main ones where I basically eliminate them from my workout because it's an instant migraine.

Nick, this is all central nervous system connected. It sounds like. So those exercises can cause a temporary more so than other ones, a temporary rise in blood pressure, and then a blood pressure drop when you put the weight up. And it's probably when the set is over that the migraine starts to kick in. Or there could be something in the cervical area of your spine that could be triggering because you just mentioned a bunch of exercises that tend to stress that area a lot, deadlift shrugs for sure.

And barbell squats for sure. Have you had an MRI done on your cervical spine? Uh, we did a, like two years ago, I had one, everything was like pretty much normal. I know I forgot exactly like a couple of things were a little, you know, closer than they should be, but they said nothing significant or nothing to really worry about. Yeah. Central nervous system is where I would look and you know, you've probably done everything that Western medicine can do for that.

I would look, uh, towards Ayurvedic medicine or Chinese medicine, um, to see if there's any, anything that they can offer that can help your CNS, uh, towards Ayurvedic medicine or Chinese medicine, um, to see if there's any, anything that they can offer that can help your CNS, uh, become a little more balanced. Cause that, that's what's triggering the migraine is, uh, yeah. And the central nervous system controls your blood pressure up or down. Um, so, and I've had that with clients where they'll do a set, put the weight down, either get dizzy or get a migraine right afterwards. Sometimes both. Yes. Yeah. So it's like your blood pressure goes up and then you get this dramatic drop.

Yeah. More so than you should when you stop the set. One thing you can try is when you rack the weight, tense your legs and keep them tense for about 10 to 15 seconds. That'll help keep the blood pressure up and then slowly release the tension at your legs. Don't let the blood pressure drop all at once. Yeah. See if that helps. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I've tried to talk to a lot of people. So I was glad to get on here because I've tried to pick other trainers brains.

I've done a lot of research and it's kind of just standard, like, you know, take it easy or do this. It's also, it's also something that typically someone twice my age deals with. So yeah, no, no, I understand. No, thanks for calling in, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. Can I one, one quick follow up if you don't mind. So to go with everything like that real quick, um, I do a lot of mobility, a lot of stretching, but I noticed along with everything else, my muscles are tight no matter what I try. I mean, I have mobility days. I prime them before the workouts, no matter what.

And I know that's affecting things too, which again is probably a CNS thing. It is. Wow. 100%. Yeah. This is all pointing to that. You know, uh, static stretching might be something that's really good for you. Do you have a, uh, like high heart rate, blood pressure?

How's all that for you, by the way? Literally everything's like perfect. Everything's normal. Everything's good. You know, I try stretching mobility, all of that. It's quick relief, obviously, but then, you know, workouts, everything, it's like perfect. Everything's normal. Everything's good. You know, I try stretching mobility, all of that. It's quick relief, obviously, but then, you know, workouts, everything, it's super tight. I think static stretching would be good for you.

Not before your workout, but you know, at the end of the day, at night or static stretching in heat with a sauna, that gets the CNS to chill out or, or, or to kind of balance out a little bit. Okay. Yeah. I'll definitely try that. CNS stuff. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Interesting. Yep. That's what I figured. I Okay, yeah, I'll definitely try that. All this is CNS stuff. Yeah, oh yeah. Interesting. Yep. That's what I figured, I just, you know, go to the experts. No, you're on the right track. But I feel like too, I wouldn't stop searching. No, no, I would not.

I wouldn't stop searching, because it sounds like it's just something that's really- Have you had your adrenals looked at? Anything? No. Normal blood work. Yeah, but there's something going on with your CNS. Uh, so you might want to even go to a specialist. They do these whole body scans now.

I don't know where you're at, but over here in San Jose, I don't know how much it costs for like two grand or three grand, but they do this whole body scan of the whole body. Um, they look at everything. Um, and then, you know, they can kind of look at that and look for certain things. But I wouldn't stop looking. There's something that has not been found is what it sounds like.

That's what it feels like. I mean, over the years, seven years now, I've had eight different neurologists. You know, I Google everything online. I try to talk to everybody. There's nothing. Maybe when we, maybe we can connect them with the guy that we know. I don't know if I can mention Dr. Conn. I say Dr. Conn maybe we can connect him with

Dr. Conn to see if he can help. Yeah we'll send you some information for somebody that we know that works really well but you'd have to fly out of the country. Alright man. Alright Nick. Thanks Nick. Thank you guys. You got it. That sucks. Definitely a, you know, Yeah. It sounds like it's just like some sort of a rare condition with the CNS that like a normal doctor is just not gonna pick up on. Because everything he said was like,

It's definitely elusive. Back to that. Yeah. And now the damage he got from the stroke, I mean, some damage you get, you just can't fully come back. Yeah, it doesn't regenerate. And when it comes to peptides, I don't know if they would even help this far out.

Right afterwards, there could be some benefit. Right afterwards, there might have been benefit from doing a peptide that helps accelerate healing and stuff like that. I mean, Dr. Connell would be a good person to talk to. Yes, because he's cutting edge. He's way beyond what you're going to be doing with any other. Yeah, that's what he needs to look into somebody who's revolutionary And he's dealing with a lot of like young athletes that are pushing their bodies at extreme limits and have weird shit going on

They get hit and hurt. So he's probably the best I'll be with him tomorrow. So I'll talk to him and see See what's up? And then Doug you'll have to probably reach out to Katrina to get the Email information for him to email in or whatever. She can actually email personally and see if we can get him at least to talk to him. Yeah. At least connected to his team and see what, see if you can troubleshoot more. Our next caller is Oleg from Lithuania.

What's happening, Oleg. Hey, what's up guys? How can we help? Yeah, I believe that I'm here. Uh, yeah, there are so many people who told you so many good words and I will not repeat that, but I can tell you that I'm fully amazed about one thing. There are three of you guys, you're doing that almost every day. And we know, at least I know that you know how difficult the relationship the relationships

between people are. And you look at professional and fun every single day. So thank you for that. Give your respect for that. It's a lot. It's really hard to deal with Adam. We work hard. A lot of smoke and mirrors.

You have no idea how much shit we put up with. How can we help you, man? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, um, I'll try to go through my mail and then I will add just one please to my question, which I totally forgot when I was asking it. So I'm 42 years old. I'm six foot and six foot and I'm 160 pounds guy. My main hobby and my passion is windsurfing.

I'm competing at a national level, but I'm not a pro. And weight matters a lot in my sport. So I compete mainly against 200 pounds or 210 pounds guys, and they go way faster. And of course, for some time I've tried to gain weight and basically I was a bit more systematic with my training for the past two and a half years. And I've been doing a weird stuff. I've been basically doing three exercises all two and a half years. And I've been doing a weird stuff. I've been basically doing three exercises all two and a half years. I've been doing squats, bench press and weighted pull-ups. And each week I've been adding basically, I've been doing five sets of each and each

week I've been basically adding one rep, which is around 3% of my total volume to have that overload. And then when I was hitting like five sets, 12 reps, then I was just bumping up the weight. I managed to go from 100 pounds to 155 pounds in squats and bench press. I wanted to go from no added weight pull ups to 33 pounds additional weight pull ups. And most of the days I actually hit my protein targets. I use shakes at least once a day, but not all the time. And then I was almost all the time in the maintenance mode and for the past few months

I went in a moderate bulk and I gained some weight and of course I got some actually, unfortunately some belly fat as well together with it. However, my question is I guess is not exactly about how to add weight but is actually how to approach the training and as a windsurfer I have two seasons. I have home season which is more or less April till November and I have off season, which is November till March. And during the season, I cannot plan very much because windsurfing, it's a wind thing. So if it blows like three or four days a week, then I'm once in a time, I'm in a gym, I'm

doing that at home. And then during winter, I'm more systematic with my approach. And I recently purchased this MAPS40. And the only thing that actually picked up from MAPS40 was the checklist. So going to bed, drinking water, no electronics, and yada yada. But I did not switch to the training per se. And the main problem is mental because I was going for the same exercises for two and a half years.

I saw progress, I never had any traumas. And I'm so afraid now to go with something else. Because I mean, then maybe I will not be gaining any strength or, but I heard a lot from you guys about novelty. So. Oh, like real quick, I gotta say something. The workout you were doing the squats bench pull-ups add one rep a week. And then when you get to 12, add some weight is better than 90% of the

workouts that people sell online. It's very simple, very basic. Such a great methodical approach. The way you added volume. To increase volume. Incredible. Now you're totally ready for MAPS 40+. You're ready for a new program and you're going to see more muscle gains from a new program,

especially because you're adding new exercises to your programming. I mean, you're going to get great benefits from it, especially after what you've been doing. I'm still so fascinated that, uh, in wind surfing, it's better to be heavier. Yeah. What's that? That's what the sail doesn't pick you up and you stay more on the water. Why is it better to be so counterintuitive?

It's a lot about physics, the bigger guys, they have more momentum. They can have the bigger sales. It's just to go faster. In others, if you want to do jumps and fix, then you better be light and flexible and everything. But in speed runs, they need to be quick. That is fast. Okay, that makes more sense. I mean, yeah, you follow maps 40 plus you go in a calorie surplus, a nice small surplus. You'll gain some muscle for sure. Yeah. And you, and you, you even, uh, you even touched on how to, how to train.

Right? So that's what you would follow that to a tee in the off season on season. You do one day a week, like you were doing. You, you have the, yes. So off season. So I'm keeping on season the same, same, same routine. And then off season and go much more. Yes. Yeah.

What you were doing naturally is, I mean, you actually did a really good job. What's what you've done so far. I think the way you were programming for yourself is great and exactly how we would program an athlete in season. I don't want you in the gym lifting traditional weightlifting more than one day a week. That's plenty. So in other words, you can start maps 40 off season or on season, but on season

you do it once a week on season, you follow the program as it's laid out. But I mean, if I do maps 40 on season once a week, isn't that like, like just, you know, I'm doing just part of the program, then losing so much. Maybe then I just need to stay. No, you're fine because they're full body workouts. No, you're fine with that program. Yeah, with that program, you're fine. You can pick one of the workouts and you're okay.

Like if you were doing our split program, that wouldn't be an ideal way to do that. But because the Maps 40 is based off of a full body routine, you just pick one of the days and you can follow it. And that would be sufficient for sure. The only other option, like it would be like a mass 15 or you're kind of spreading out that volume throughout the week and you're just doing really like short workouts. It's a combo with you know you're practicing but just once a week of a full workout routine is going to cover that.

And the reason why I like the actually once a week versus because I like mass 15 a lot because if I understood you correctly the days, the days that you wind surf could are in, are inconsistent because it's based off the wind, right? So if it's like you get three, four windy days in a row, you're doing it. If you have one day and then 40. So having a routine where you have to come to the gym consistently throughout the week is probably less advantageous, a program where you can just do it one day a week, any day that you get free is I do. So, I mean, I like you following maps 40 year around. You fall, you run

the end season. You just do one, one day a week of one of the, one of the full body workouts. And then when you're in the off season, follow it to a T bump your calories a little bit and let it go. Damn, that was too easy. Well, you're doing good already, bro. I think, I think you did a hell of a job on your own. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. Thank you guys.

Yeah. Thank you. So then I guess I'll just stick to that. But then once I'm that, I mean, I just understand every like three months I need to switch a program. So basically next time, but since I'm my off season is like five months. So then basically I'm good. And I'm just running maps Florida.

Then I'm going to your total my regular. Yep. Yeah, you're totally fine. The other program in off season would be like a maps performance or anabolic would even be appropriate, but you're fine. But get good at 40 for now. You can run that a few times back to back to back before we mess with anything.

In fact, I would try and squeeze everything I could out of. If you're seeing, which you will, if you follow it to a tee in the off season, you're gonna see some good gains from it. I'd keep running it until you start to see yourself stall in the gym and then we could interrupt that with another program. Well, all right.

Right on, man. Thank you guys. You got it, man. Yeah, keep us posted. Thank you so much. I'd love to hear how it goes man. Follow back up with us. Thank you. All right, I'll. How funny is that?

That's cool. That some dude, not even a trainer, right? No. Comes up with the program and the way he explained it and does it is better. Better than any fitness influencer. Literally better than 90% of the workouts that fitness influencers have done.

Should have asked him what he did for work. I'm always intrigued by someone who has like a. Yeah, a brain like that. Yeah, yeah, probably engineer or something like that to be that. Yeah, that methodical. I mean, it's perfect. Literally one rep a week.

He could have done more, whatever. Nope, just one rep. Yeah. Added weight when he gets to 12. Like what a great. Systematic. And the three exercises he picked were pretty good. Yeah, good. I mean, that's not a bad combination of exercise.

No, you're going to get plenty of great get full body gains from all those. So I love that. Our next caller is Gabby from Nevada. Hi Gabby. How can we help you? Hi guys. How you doing? Um, this is really exciting and slightly intimidating, but, um, first, thank

you guys so much. I've learned so much, not just about fitness and health, but just everything. Even you guys talking about your kids. I don't have kids, but I still enjoy even stuff like that. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Great.

So first to start off, I started a bulk in September. I wouldn't say I started gaining weight until probably around December, and I started at 127 pounds. And then through that I gained around, I would say, and I went up to 137, or no, sorry, not 137, 133. And then I get these body scans done and I've done three from October to the end of February. And after that, I kind of noticed that I had only gained one pound, 1.3, I think to the exact pounds of muscle

and then five pounds of body fat, which was really discouraging. Obviously I did something wrong. I felt like I was doing everything right. I felt stronger. I track my calories pretty accurately. I would say I only go out to eat probably like three times a month. So I'm just kind of confused on where I went wrong, I guess. How much stronger did you get? Do you, can you give me some like ideas of weights, uh, that you, you know, that you could do for a certain lift and what it went to? Um, so I would say probably an average of all my lifts I gained around or I went up 10 pounds and everything.

So squat I started at like 150 and then I went to 165 bench I started at 100 and I got 110. I don't deadlift very consistently. Um, but everything else like split squats, I went up and weighed a lot, like everything I felt. I feel like I got stronger. Uh, where's the programming coming from? What are you following? Um, I just kind of make my own stuff. Um, I do a body part split. Um, and then with one full body day. So I usually do about five to six days of training a week, but I, there you go.

Yeah. We're going to get you. That's it. That we're the program. I can see the program. Yeah. Yeah. That's the problem.

That's way too much. I just, um, bought anabolic advanced too much, too much. Okay. Anabolic advance is great, but I want you to go to maps and a ball and you'll get there. We'll send you that. Let's start with anabolic maps and a ball. Like do the three day a week version on there.

Do the trigger sessions on the off days. Make the trigger sessions easy. Okay, I'm gonna say this again, because I know what you're gonna do. I can already tell. You're gonna overdo the trigger sessions. Make the trigger sessions. Just, you just wanna feel the muscles, not a workout.

But then you get three workouts a week. That program will take care of, by the way, that's not terrible what you did. You gained a pound, a little over a pound and a half of muscle gained some body fat, but the problem was you weren't the muscle building signal wasn't effective enough. And that doesn't mean you didn't train hard enough. It just means it wasn't appropriate. And I guess that you worked out too much.

Yeah. Five or six days a week, uh, is just too much to build muscle for most people. People that train like that and build muscle on that are really advanced, genetically gifted, oftentimes on hormones. So maps anabolic, follow it to a T, and you're going to see your strength gains go up like crazy. Are you good about hitting, Gabby, are you good about consistently hitting your protein intake too?

Yeah, I probably get around 140 grams of protein a day. So you're good. Okay, good. Yeah. If you're doing that, you're, it's just programming. I mean, this is, you're an example of how this makes a difference. This will make a big difference for you. I'm going to have, I'm going to have Doug put you in the private forum also, because

I'd like to keep an eye on you as you go through this and then just every, every month check in with us. So as you're going through the process just keep it keep us posted on how you're feeling what's going on especially with like strength and stuff like that that's what we should we should notice. I think you'll get even more strength. By the way I mean your calories you got yourself up to 2,700 calories at 137 pounds. Not bad. Yeah. It's not like you gained, I mean, you're still lean.

So everything's like the one missing piece of the puzzle is the programming. And that's why I feel so confident that when you follow Maps Anabolic, it's going to blow your mind on how your body responds in comparison to how it has been. And I'd probably, now that you got all the way up to 27 and 50, which is really good, I'd probably hover somewhere around 2,500 calories. And just follow the program. And follow maps and a ball. So you're not really in a major deficit.

If you are, it's a slight, maybe some days you're in a surplus. It's going to bounce and just follow the programming and let the program do the work and we should see yourself just lean out, lean out nicely. And maybe if we're lucky, build a little bit of muscle at the same time. Were you doing strength training before all of this or was that new to you? Yeah, I've been lifting for about, I would say three and a half, maybe four years. Awesome. Awesome. You're going to love MAPS Anabolic.

Okay, perfect. And so I am down to 2,200 calories right now. And my plan was just keep going down. No, no, no, no. I want you around 25. Say then, since you told me that you're at 22, then maybe hover around 2350 to 2,500. 2,500 on the higher. Yeah. Yeah. You stay up, stay up. You're going to be okay. Yeah. Cause we got to feed the game. Yeah, cause we gotta feed the game. No, we have to feed the muscle.

That's okay, that's why I want you in the forum, cause I actually wanna hear, I wanna hear, cause I might put you even higher after a month. So I wanna hear how you're doing. So stick to a number, just be consistent with it. Check in with me in the forum and let me know, hey Adam, this is where, and guys, I've been eating this many calories.

This is what I see strength wise, this is what I see weight wise, just tell us what and guys, I've been eating this many calories. This is what I see strength wise. So I see weight. Why? Just tell us what you see and then we can adjust. Have you lost any weight at 22 at 2200 calories since you've been? Yeah, I've lost two pounds. Yeah. You know what?

Let's get you. Let's keep you around 20. Yeah. Don't go. I mean, I would even go 24, 25, 25 was the number. Yeah. 25. That's the number I felt good about.

We got to give, we got it. We got to make sure we feel the muscle that you're going to get from apps and a ball. Yeah. And then again, just like I said, keep in touch with us, and then we'll coach you through the process to make sure we're right there. But I think you're going to see some great results from this.

OK, perfect. Thank you so much. Yeah, you got it. All right, Gabby. No problem. That's it. Thank you, guys. Thank you.

We'll see you in the forum. Sounds good. Bye. Bye. This is going to blow our mind. Yeah, yeah, she's going to be great. See, we're going to have five, six days a week, some full body with body part split in there?

I mean, okay, so I think we should explain what happens, right? You're in a surplus, so your body's eating calories, so it's gonna put weight on, right? She's lifting weights. And she's, but what's happening is you're getting stuck in that recovery trap. The body's not fully recovering,

she's just hammering it again. You're not adapting at that point. And so she's not building more muscle, and she's putting on a little bit of weight. And she didn't do bad. It's just not this, it's what do you say all the time that I like that you say, which is the, it's like the difference between optimal versus what you can handle. Yes. You know, so in her eyes, she can easily handle five days a week of training, but it's not.

That's not optimal. Right. No, and the programming, who knows what the pro see, there's so much that goes to the program and that people don't understand. It's not just just am I recovering enough? Am I doing the right exercises? Exercise order reps sets temple like and when he's leaving it to how you feel you can trick yourself Totally based off of that day. So yeah phone. I love that. We had an easy answer for her That's it. It's gonna make a big difference. Our next caller is Tay Wu from California. What's up, Tay Wu? How can we help you? Hey, hey, hey. I'm at my gym and so there might be some noise here and there so

apologize in advance. No worries. There is a fire truck going. Hey guys, I'm from San Francisco. Neighbors. I'll just read my question out loud and then go from there. Alright, let's hear it. So I'm a personal trainer in San Francisco and yes, I'll just read my question out loud and then go from there. All right. So I'm a personal trainer in San Francisco. And yes, I am in the elite trainer Academy course. I have been working out for 15 plus years now and have been able to expose my fitness levels to numerous modalities. Right now, Olympic lifting, power lifting, kettlebell training and animal flow are my routines. But I also recently introduced landline training and have been loving it. I can confidently say that these modalities

will be a part of my routine for a big chunk of my career or training, if not forever, especially with animal flow. I'm recently coming back from a low back injury that caused a minor bulging disc and some sciatica down my left lute and hamstring. It's getting better now. This injury caused me to pause and think about the longevity of my fitness career and how I want to model my programming moving forward to lift heavy, but also still not get injured. I still love lifting heavy. So like Olympic lifting, power lifting, kettlebells, line line, all that stuff. But I also love to do animal flow and move like a ninja.

My current routine is Monday, Wednesday, Friday, full body workouts and Tuesday, Thursday, sometimes Saturdays are my animal flow and mobility training. My question here is on the Monday, Wednesday, Friday workouts, how can I properly program the other modalities of training without over training? How would I know how much volume to do to make sure that my body doesn't feel stiff and tight? So for example, you guys on your program, would you do month to month phasing? Um, do I do Olympic lifting for a month, kettlebell training for a month? I also like the idea of incorporating all those in a month and then kind of going from there, so just kind of needing your guidance on that.

How long have you been a trainer? Trainer 10 plus years now. Oh good. Okay. The reason why I ask that is because when you're combining different modalities, so when you look at a modality of training, like powerlifting or Olympic lifting or kettlebell training, and then you find time tested workout programs, like West Side Barbells training or whatever, they're very well made.

They're time tested. They're good. What happens sometimes is when we mix modalities, we don't consider the combinations of certain exercises and how they'll feel and they're just not time tested and it's hard to kind of gauge those things, but with your experience, you're probably going to do an okay job. You'll probably know, I probably shouldn't kettlebell swing on this day because I'm doing this lift and the day after I'm doing that type of deal.

So that probably won't be an issue with someone with your experience. That the main thing is going to be adjusting the intensity of your workouts and changing the exercises. When you start to notice overuse patterns or issues, if you start to move in the same plane all the time. So if you start to notice lateral stability issues or rotational stability or strength, then I would incorporate those.

But it's a lot of it's going to be around monitoring and managing the intensity of your, of your workouts. And that's going to be, you know, lifestyle. Like, you know, sometimes you can work out harder. Sometimes you work out not so hard. How do you feel? How's your body feel? Are you progressing, regressing?

Are you noticing more injuries? What kind of sleep are you getting? So the intensity is going to be the most important thing to manage for longevity. That's true. But you're also talking about, he's talking about quite a few modalities thrown at one time. I'm trying to wrap my brain. I'm looking at it right now. Obviously animal flow is easiest, right? Cause that's like a mobility practice that can compare, it pairs well with everything. And I love the idea of that is a way to mitigate like, you know, a little bit of overreaching or an off day or in between workouts, right? So that's easy.

Animal flow is easy, but I'm looking at landmine, kettlebells, powerlifting and Olympic lifting. And there's just a lot to slam into a week. So it's like, I'm not going to train all those in a week. I'm going to probably focus more on these like mezzo cycles that would be like, I don't know, four to six weeks long of Olympic lifting. And then it would go to like kettlebells and then it would go to power lifting. That's typically how I would want to do something.

And not only just because I think that programming wise, it's going to benefit you, but it's, I think it's also going to be easier to see actual real improvements in those things. Like, obviously, you know, the tech, how technical Olympic lifting is. Like, I wouldn't want to like just get in the groove. And then all of a sudden I'm switching out

to a different complete modality. So, have you gone through our maps performance program? Yeah, I have. Um, so I haven't gone with that. The advanced maps performance advanced version, but, um, going back to what Adam, what you were saying, um, cause this is what I was thinking too of like, let's say Olympic lifting and power lifting are my like, and butter. Okay. So if I did like a three month phase of Olympic lifting, but after let's say I'm doing a clean and jerk on Monday for like 30, 40 minutes, maybe like the rest of the 20 minutes, I can do some supplemental stuff with like landmine and

kettlebell. That's all I was kind of thinking. That's why, that's why the original thing that I said was, I mean, what Adam's saying, your experience will be able to dictate that. Because like, you know, again, if you look at established Olympic lifting routines, power lifting routines, kettlebell routines, you know, what you're looking at is time-tested routines with good programming people have used. And they know this combination works and it works well.

When you mix different elements in together, you know, you, you, you know, you might have a recipe for a cake and a recipe for a pancake and a recipe for a waffle and say, well, they're all taste good. I wonder if I mix everything together, if it'll taste good. We don't know exactly what the combination is. That's why we like to do blocks, right? Yes. We like to kind of focus on developing those specific skills or adaptations.

Yeah. Maybe if you could wrap your head around what that really looks like in terms of like, well, am I trying to focus on power specifically? Right? If that's your goal, like then that's where Olympic lifts make sense. That's where like maybe using kettlebells in, with that type of like power dynamic, you know, you can kind of structure it that way a little more effectively. And that's why I kind of was referring to mass performance because we were trying to look at like building foundational strength. What do we do in this block? You know, and let's develop that now the next one,

it's like people don't move in planes, you know, effectively and aren't strong in different ranges of motion. I'm going to, you know, gather all these exercises that make sense for me to kind of, you know, gear and steer them in that direction to build and develop that strength, and then move into power itself or speed power and then conditioning all on its own. So if there's a

way you can take elements from that, especially landmine too, it's amazing for power and being able to move with acceleration with weight. So you combo that in there and you just kind of focus on, but again, power you want to really reduce the amount of fatigue. So you got to account for that. So I mean, that's as good as I can do in terms of trying to organize this. Justin, you hit it, I didn't even think to,

with your background as a trainer to Sal's point, like you're gonna have a good handle on this. Literally, I would do to Sal's point, like you're going to have a good handle on this. Literally, I would do a Justin saying, I would take our maps performance advanced, the blueprint of that, like basically how we have the phases, and then your expertise of knowing like, oh, these guys are trying, the adaptation they're going for is explosive training. I'm going to take some of my Olympic stuff and I'm going to integrate it into that phase. And then you see other things where it's like, oh, foundational strength. Okay, I'm going to take some of my powerlifting exercise I like and I'm going to take some of my Olympic stuff and I'm going to integrate it into that phase. And then you see other things where it's like,

oh, foundational strength. Okay, I'm going to take some of my powerlifting exercises I like and I'm going to integrate it in there. So use our, the way we've mapped out that program, but use your experience and knowledge in all those different modalities to insert and change out the exercises. That's probably the best way to do this

since you already have a good handle on those modalities. We've already laid out kind of a blueprint of going after specific adaptations, uh, that might be the best answer. Cause the why for all that will require us to have like our hours long podcast to cover. If you want two easy answers, answer easy. Answer one is follow those trainings in blocks or answer to, I think give maps and maps performance advanced a shot and follow it as it's laid out. is follow those trainings in blocks or answer two, I think. Give Maps

Performance Advanced a shot and follow it as it's laid out. Don't worry about all the other stuff, just follow it as it's laid out and what you're looking for in terms of how you feel and move, I think you'll get from the program. I mean that's a good point too Sal because I know you like animal flow but we address mobility stuff just you can do your animal flow stuff instead of the mobility things in there. I'm fine with that. I think if you follow maps, performance advanced, just as it's laid out, I think you'll get what you're looking for. Gotcha. And then, so as far as programming, all that stuff, like all that stuff that you said, so what did be, so I know performance has like month to month

phasing and so like Justin said, like the month one could be like strength for power focused and then going from there and then, um, adding in like Performance has like month to month phasing. And so like Justin said, like the month one could be like strength or power focus and then going from there and then adding in like supplemental stuff in between or like at the end of the workout. Is that kind of what you guys are getting at?

No, no, if you follow the programming, like the way you would do it is the only thing that you would add or change that program is you would take out an exercise and put in something that You want so there's like let's say let's say we're missing because we don't have a lot of Olympic lifts like traditional Olympic lifts And in any of our programs, so if there's like a phase where we have you doing an exercise where you're like Oh, you know, I'd rather do phase three, right? I want to do an Olympic lift right here then but it has to match

Yeah, it needs a mat. You know, don't replace dumbbell curls and that that they're in there right right it needs it needs a replay you need to replace a movie don't add to the program take out something that you don't want to do replace it with a movement that you want to do and it'll make sense in that phase on what on what to replace and if you add anything it needs to be like animal flow all the like all the other modalities like you're gonna get what we have landmine inside that we don don't have kettlebell inside that, but you can easily switch out some things that we do traditionally in there. Yeah, we do. So if he's talking about performance advance, we do have like some kettlebell,

we have landmine specific exercise. We, and it's structured within like, if power was my focus, here's how I'm sprinkling that in as the skill I'm focusing on. It's lower intensity, the training between that, but then now we reduce it down to like two basic foundational strength days per week, and you're just supplementing that the rest of the week with low to moderate level intensity, real hyper-focused on the skill. So if that makes sense to you, you could really go through that and get all the ideas of how to structure what you're talking about by just deliberately going through that and kind of,

okay, this is how they pulled these exercises and put it in for this phase. I can do that with all those other pursuits. I mean, Tay, you're in our forum too, so follow the program and then you don't, I mean, check in with us, just go like, hey, I'm thinking about pulling this out and I'm gonna put this in, what do you guys think?

Yeah. And run a bias. If you don't already know, I feel like you're gonna have a pretty good, I think you're gonna be able to do a lot of this on your own, but if there's something that you're not sure about, just post in the forum and say, hey, I'm following the maps

and performance advanced, I wanna pull this exercise out and I wanna put this one in. What do you guys think about that? You think that's a good move? And then we'll tell you yes or no. Oh, yeah. I like it though. I like all the modalities you're doing pretty much.

Yeah. All right, cool. Make you a good thank you. And then one last thing is, uh, can I ask one last thing for that? Since everything, um, is like very skill focused. Would it be, I mean, obviously like, would it be beneficial to focus on like these months of like just going like medium light to medium weight, but just like focusing on just the skill asset of it. And then once I, cause I'm still kind of recovering from the injury

and then once I feel better going, okay. I think performance advance is really like going to be perfect for what you're talking about. Like it's literally structured like that. So, yeah, go through that and you're going to get a lot of what you're trying to figure out just by going through it. Perfect. And then just one last thing. If I can go ahead. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You're good. So I'm in San Francisco. My gym were completely outdoors. And so I know you guys have talked about, oh, is there like a

completely outdoor gym? Like today it's sunny, I can show you this container, but we have a full set of gyms equipment out there. Awesome. So if you guys are in the up in the San Francisco area, let me know and then we can do some workouts together something like that. Awesome. Alright appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you guys. Alright man. Take it easy. Oh good one. One of the workouts is to fight off the homeless people. It's apocalyptic training. A typical terrible. A typical trainer, right? Like just fucking that loves what he does. You love that though.

I mean he's doing all kinds of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gonna be, I bet he's... If I were gonna look at here, look, with my experience, if I were gonna learn or train in any of those ways, I would follow programming based on that. Because when you mix things together... Justin hit that on the head. I don't even know why that didn't even dot on me.

Because I was looking at it all of a sudden, like, fuck, how would I, like, sitting right now, try and piece together all of it. This is like what we do when we try to create a program. It takes a long time. I need three days, bro, to sit down and really think this out. But then you're right. You follow Matt's performance.

And then you literally can take the things that maybe we don't have in there, which is what actually really covers most of that stuff. And then as a trainer, you should know how to do it. Even the rotational skill in there is going to cover a lot of the animal flow stuff. So if he goes through it, he's going to be like, oh, okay, it's going to make a lot more sense. Yeah. Look, we have a lose body fat guide at mindpumpfree.com. It's totally free. Check it out. You can also find us on social media. Justin is on Instagram at mind pump free calm it's totally free check it out you can also find us on social media Justin is on Instagram at mind pump Justin I'm on Instagram line pump to Stefano and Adam is on Instagram at mind pump Adam

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